dont pay attention to ram
#lounge
carmine frigate
zinc matrix
really? ๐
carmine frigate
its just gunna keep in there stuff it might need and lose it when other stuff needs it
zinc matrix
oh
carmine frigate
gpu not so much
zinc matrix
sounds just as fine as UE's crazy system usage
carmine frigate
also cpu shouldnt be that busy on idle
zinc matrix
yeah not really sure why it's like this
everytime i keep the machine on for more than 3 hours
this happens
alpine fern
gpu is at 0% for me on idle
carmine frigate
same
zinc matrix
when i close all the windows, i get 6% gpu usage
maybe because of the customization tools? idk
but Windows is packaged with Corona atm
alpine fern
go to details -> right click column header -> select column -> enable GPU -> sort by GPU
zinc matrix
uhm
man
dwm.exe
Client Server Runtime Process
S y s t e m
f this, gotta restart the pc
btw,
do any of you people plan to make an Unreal Engine themed Discord bot?
much like Unrealbot
it'd be cool to have a bot like that in a game project server
foggy path
yeah I'm not entirely sure what those things would be :P like what UE-specific functionality would you need on discord
my bot's just a custom thing I wrote in Elixir, it's not really something I can show
sits on my discord and says when I go live on twitch basically lol
zinc matrix
maybe like UE wiki
foggy path
hmm yeah I guess that could be something
foggy path
that crysis leak looks like the original crysis ๐ค
zinc matrix
@sage tendon @pearl elk I fixed the ArmSystem/Browser bug entirely
mb ill release game today or tomorrow
are youh appy?
its MMO, afterall
their names aren't "appy" i suppose
what's the bug?
pearl elk
Appy is the name of my Google AI friend
zinc matrix
"Hey Appy, play random music"
pearl elk
Anytime I need a new Ironman suit I just ask them to make it
zinc matrix
super cool
carmine frigate
@zinc matrix what did u convert?
must be a bp that does a lot of math or is in the lvl multiple times right?
tick isnt so bad, until it is ๐
pearl elk
15ms is still kinda slow :)
carmine frigate
depends on the system ๐
zinc matrix
are BPs still heavy?
carmine frigate
also if u really wunna show the improvement u should show the BP time instead
ebon onyx
If you need to ask, you're not doing something heavy enough for it to matter.
carmine frigate
this could be anything
pearl elk
Could be slow C++ hehe
carmine frigate
mayB it was stat engine, not too sure
there was 1 where u could check the ms of every BP
this could be windows update ๐
yea or profiler
i just hit all the stat commands until i find what im lookin for ๐
sage tendon
@zinc matrix sure, grats
zinc matrix
โค๏ธ
sage tendon
fixed the encryption yet?
sage tendon
coping?
sage tendon
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sage tendon
good, and why do you want to know?
zinc matrix
cus usually male is older
sage tendon
and?
zinc matrix
though my oneitis is older than me
sage tendon
you call your wife "it"?
zinc matrix
when did i call your wife "it"
zinc matrix
i said oneitis
sage tendon
one it is?
zinc matrix
its how women out of our league are called
who you are into
like the woman that you specifically are very much into
sage tendon
with the lack of interpunction, i just add it myself to make it more readable and also added missing spaces
zinc matrix
no
you shouldnt
remco Budd โค๏ธ
idk how ill code.. with MMO server running 24/7
sage tendon
like the woman that you specifically are very much into
@zinc matrix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6Hr9kd-U0&feature=youtu.be&t=45
zinc matrix
JFl
sage tendon
dont needs much more explaining i guess
sage tendon
guess it does require explanation...
idk how ill code.. with MMO server running 24/7
@zinc matrix
you actually plan on playing it too?
sage tendon
no vps?
sage tendon
no secondary computer?
zinc matrix
there is but too loud
sage tendon
grab an old i3 laptop from 2nd hand, they are like just 50 euro or so
zinc matrix
lol
sage tendon
or rent a vps
sage tendon
perhaps a MO, i doubt the networking sustains actually sufficient people to be able to call it massive
zinc matrix
keep coping
well
its certainly
not perfect
but i think it can host
1k players
i mean the framework itself
not my game
my game a bit less prob
sage tendon
the framework you use lacks serious stuff that you need
it will be the same thing as kevin spacey in house of cards
sage tendon
im not hating
zinc matrix
butyou always
sage tendon
im trying to help you and point the flaws out
sage tendon
the MMO dream is real and ambitious
totally fine to make a small scale MMO and then build it out
the networking is the biggest thing in a MMO and you know nothing about network packets
sage tendon
pick a language and write a chat program with the server in the center
sage tendon
it can be done in a day
once you understand the basics, you can start to expand your knowledge
zinc matrix
KEEEp>COPING
sage tendon
Well sure
zinc matrix
i think i got dumber
sage tendon
doubt it
sage tendon
legendary words
atomic cedar
Is it possible that one disk partition suddendly dissapeared from my pc
sage tendon
the drive letter could be used by something else
sage tendon
tried to reboot?
atomic cedar
ill do that rn
sage tendon
be sure to unplug any external storage devices
atomic cedar
Should it appear with the letter of as a partition
sage tendon
You should see the partition block in the disk
atomic cedar
Only appears F: D:
sage tendon
No third block?
atomic cedar
sage tendon
Its unallocated
atomic cedar
The black one?
sage tendon
Yea in the end
That space shown there
Isnt it the space of your missing partition?
atomic cedar
When i right click all the options are not available to click
sage tendon
Because it doesnt know whay to do with it
Try system restore if you have a restore point
zinc matrix
copee
sage tendon
Else, if brave enough, you could try a partition manager to allocate it
atomic cedar
I'm starting to freak out
sage tendon
Its there it just lost the allocation
Just be sure to never format it when assigning it as partition
atomic cedar
Any recomended programs to use
atomic cedar
yea haaha
sage tendon
Might give the warning it could possivle not read it, but you dont want to do anything with it
Other than seeing it as NFTS
sage tendon
Basically you want to recover it
atomic cedar
I cannot click the partition.
sage tendon
If you create it, it should want to format it
But.. did you removed any external storage devices before removing?
Its usually the cause of a partition getting lost
Rebooting*
atomic cedar
I was using unreal, closed it and i went to check for a file and saw there was no E: drive
sage tendon
Is it a HDD?
atomic cedar
Yes
sage tendon
Did it make ticking sounds?
atomic cedar
Nope
sage tendon
Ah ok
sage tendon
Tho, on a screenshot you posted earlier, it says there is a FAT32 usb connected, just try to remove all external storage devices (external hdd, usb sticks, etc) and then reboot
atomic cedar
F
sage tendon
21 degrees is room temperature, dont fall for scamware
alpine fern
that drive is about to die
atomic cedar
me too
alpine fern
make backup while you still can and toss it out
sage tendon
Has WesternDigital become that bad?
sage tendon
AliExpress? ๐
atomic cedar
The disk that has the issue is a WD 3tb green from 2013 lol
sage tendon
F
carmine frigate
backup b4 messin with that stuff
atomic cedar
Why
carmine frigate
i dunno , seems like a solid plan ๐
carmine frigate
i havent had a drive fail on me in ages
atomic cedar
I never had an issue with my drives, and now suddendly one partition dissapears
I lost counltess information, fuck me
broken sigil
Dead drive? Check the cables
carmine frigate
you can prolly get it back, but i would def backup what u still have B4 messing around trying to get it back
atomic cedar
I dont have enoguh space to make a backup
analog bone
This is me going to the store
analog bone
Yeah it is looping, just the gif that ends too harsh
carmine frigate
ahh k
median wraith
I just expect Epic adds something like this particles on UE5 https://twitter.com/tuxedolabs/status/1278418537040809985
other wise isn't next gen
๐ค
fathom wadi
awesome. MAX_PATH strikes again.
carmine frigate
yea and ur 99% there
fathom wadi
@atomic cedar I have 8.2mb but still.... took a while to download and im waiting on it. Takes for freaking ever to do this over and over
Would be nice if I could find the dependencies and just move them and carry on downloading the rest
Even so, I read an article over 2 years ago about MAX_PATH and how to fix the issue in engine. Came with a PR also. Thought it would be sorted by now
hmm seems it might be double checking assets from a folder move. If so, all is well
analog bone
I'm scared
fathom wadi
the arms are my fave part.
zinc matrix
Kuivalsbsn
fathom wadi
the arms need to move opposite to the direction of the equivalent sided leg.
zinc matrix
Nice
fathom wadi
the only people who walk like that are lunatics
fathom wadi
are you using the control rig to animate it?
carmine frigate
thats blender
carmine frigate
just look at that fancy grid ๐
analog bone
@zinc matrix dunno wanna learn animating my self
fathom wadi
yeah I can't tell anymore. I see grids everywhere
carmine frigate
but that1 is really gray
fathom wadi
my wife trolled me a little by getting polygon wallpaper. This father's day the kids got me a polygon card. Im sick of triangles.
carmine frigate
roses are gray, violets are gray, blender and everything else is gray ๐
analog bone
@carmine frigate How does the cloth brush work xd
analog bone
But do i need a good basemodel
carmine frigate
controll rig is kinda buggy still i think
i dunno u need a bunch of verts to use it
you can use it on the start cube tho
fathom wadi
control rig has a bug or too still. Needs more unit nodes too but they will come. My hope is that they add a separate weighting profile you can switch between that stays independent like the control rig. That would help me anyway as I would like to create extra bones on top of the original skeleton and have it affect the skin
carmine frigate
if u create a variable in the rig and try to feed it in it works, but when u restart the engine its all errors and decompiled
there is also some math error in there last time i checked
you can allready do the thing u want i believe tho
fathom wadi
I was using it to do some stuff but I put it to one side for now. It comes in handy for sequencer tho
Really? I've seen some weighting stuff in engine but wasn't sure where it was applied
carmine frigate
hmm u can change the weight of the rigs
fathom wadi
yeah with the original skeleton I presume? Theres nothing I saw in control rig
Perhaps an interface to do it might be worth a look into
analog bone
Headbob anim
fathom wadi
yeah I want extra distributed weighting though. eg. I take a mesh from Blender that uses Bendy Bones. But I have to switch it off to get the model into UE4. So I want to recreate that effect by adding bones to the control rig and distributing the weight somehow. It's just an idea but it would be useful
carmine frigate
sending the entire engine to perforce so cant show the bp atm
yea bendy bones are just subdivided bones that get moved diffrent
so totally possible
there is spline IK
carmine frigate
i have a base anim running, than i have a CR to take it over so i can manipulate it, and i have 1 rig that completely ovverides the base anim
zinc matrix
I can't damn sleep
carmine frigate
so the base anim is just telling the CR where to go
carmine frigate
than the rig takes over and plays the base anim ๐
fathom wadi
I was thinking of doing something like that for VR so I can use motion controllers hooked up to the arms but have animations taking over when I need to
fathom wadi
hes a troll I'd ignore him. In fact, I did.
analog bone
Who, me? :(((
fathom wadi
no john of ignorance
analog bone
xd
carmine frigate
dunno if CR does anything that wasnt possible in anim BP tho
fathom wadi
easy quick anims if anything. Very visual and people like that
carmine frigate
its just faster now
fathom wadi
I was surprised they didn't rig the mannequin fingers. I mean, not calling anyone a slacker or anything, but they should join this channel ๐
carmine frigate
anim BP is really solid tho
fathom wadi
I was using linked anim graphs the other day. That was really cool
carmine frigate
yea i just liked how the foot was done on the MP rig
was hopin hands aswell, cuz they actually showed that
but hands get messy fast
zinc matrix
@analog bone sounds like narcism or something
carmine frigate
2 arms and 2 legs, total of 4 targets
analog bone
@zinc matrix ๐ฆ
carmine frigate
2 hands, , base controll of all fingers is like 12 targets
fathom wadi
yeah comes in handy though. Pun intended.
anyway, nearly midnight. That means no more work, time to grab a brew and play some games. ๐
carmine frigate
now the fortnite face rig, that i want
fathom wadi
I did a nice 2d facial rig in blender. Gonna recreate it in UE when I get past this latest animation grind.
carmine frigate
hmm yea mayB u should let me know
fathom wadi
anyway have fun. Don't let John of Flatulence get you down
analog bone
Is the iphones faceid good for tracking face?
carmine frigate
never tried ๐
analog bone
I think it will still be better than me animating by hand xd
analog bone
Yep, but when trying to achieve realism
tulip orbit
just animate the faces like they're canadian. https://i.imgur.com/Fc7HwGo.gif
analog bone
Or animate like me
carmine frigate
ur not goin to hit realism, embrace it ๐
carmine frigate
zinc matrix
Sexy
analog bone
Yes
tulip orbit
horror game?
zinc matrix
Ready for vr chat
carmine frigate
just make it like : the convent
analog bone
@tulip orbit nah, just making animations for kids
tulip orbit
๐
analog bone
xdd
analog bone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuWY9JoL4s how can game like this have this poorly made animations
carmine frigate
i kinda liked those anims ๐
if u got an iphone X go try it
i wouldnt get 1 for the face cap
zinc matrix
Keep coppppppibggg
zinc matrix
These embeds r too big
carmine frigate
if u spend a lot of time on a 5 min vid u can make everything look easy and great ๐
carmine frigate
they spend so much time on that face... its just a floating head now
budget ran dry
here u go 46 sec
that wil be 70.000 $
analog bone
xdddd
zinc matrix
Then u DMG brain
analog bone
ik, gotta shitpost and pretend im doing something usefull with my life
zinc matrix
I feel u bro
U knw if u keep it real
They no like u
Damnb how is that possivle i cannit zleep
analog bone
your brain? xd
zinc matrix
If i no profit... I no gamedev anymore
analog bone
Or atleast one of my friends is constantly telling me that im wasting my time
Maybe he is right, who knows ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
zinc matrix
Nahh
My friends told me my sites and games sugg
But that was years ago
They're great now
analog bone
Do you have any games released now?
analog bone
can you show a screenshot or something?
zinc matrix
carmine frigate
well over 90% of the ppl here never made any money using UE4 or 3d software and 90% never will
carmine frigate
90% is even on the low side
dont wunna sound like a pessimist but its the way things are
analog bone
Yeah, i need to get that to my head. so i wont be disappointed when i release my game and get like 10euros
carmine frigate
if you take all the ppl in this unreal discord , count the time they spend on unreal calculate it to hourly wage, its prolly not goin to end up over 10cents an hour ๐
carmine frigate
some made decent to huge money tho , so it is possible
analog bone
It is a hit or miss, you make a lot of money or you make close to nothing
Gamedev is like casino but more depressing
zinc matrix
I must make mony
You hear me
You hear!!!!!
Btw...
I think patreon is not gut for me
analog bone
why?
zinc matrix
Cus i don't see their names
analog bone
:/
I was thinking of making a kickstarter
throw a cool cinematic trailer together and hope for the best
river river
Did Epic just delete Conan Exiles from being part of the free games this week?
carmine frigate
i have a normal job , not 3d or programming related, i got a bunch of skills but its prolly not goin to make me enough to support me
zinc matrix
Job is depression
river river
I love my job
analog bone
maybe i will just add my paypalme link to my instagram ๐ ๐
river river
lol
analog bone
freelancing is fun
carmine frigate
if i lived in some low wage country i might be able to freelance 3d and unreal stuff
analog bone
I make websites and stuff for people and get okay money out of it
carmine frigate
or do youtube
here i couldnt afford a parking spot with it ๐
let alone an appartment
analog bone
I do like 2 websites a month and i get like real money out of it
carmine frigate
ahh thats cool
analog bone
I do them half the price of a agency
the advertising agencies here charge a lot of money for a website and a logo desing
like 5k about
that is just insane
but some old guy does not know about fiverr, so he goes to the agency and pays the 5k thinking it is a good deal
carmine frigate
yea i seen some of that stuff. sometimes u can get some real value there
analog bone
Well yeah, good work always costs more. but they make a basic website and thats it
But I'm the kind of a guy that i dont want a normal job
entrepreneur is the way to go
if gamedev doesnt work im probably going to start a new company
carmine frigate
keep tryin things u like and something might work for you
analog bone
Yeah, and dont get me wrong i like gamedev and will do it as an hobby regardless of if i make money or not
But if it doesnt work for me, gotta move on
carmine frigate
dont compare ur success to that of others and u wil be more happy :p
river river
I've had gamedev as hobby for half my life and I haven't made a single game haha
carmine frigate
like life is hard enough as it is, and there is no leaderboard ๐
river river
Yeah life is pretty P2W, please nerf
analog bone
I just wish that i took learning blender seriously as a kid
yeah im a kid now im 17
but i started messing with blender like 6 years ago
river river
I mean i don't see any loss really, blender was annoying as hell before 2.8
analog bone
im still bad at it
river river
Now is the time to learn blender
analog bone
true
But still, life is so unexpected at somepoints
so i would like to make even one good game
ideal case, make a game. super popular live of that money for rest of your life
like one hit wonder but in gamedev
Not many indie devs can make like multiple hit games in a row
river river
Make a mobile game and monetise the shit out of it. Profit ๐
carmine frigate
there is no such thing as an indie dev ๐
analog bone
@river river i have been thinking of that literally
river river
Mobile gamers got the big wallets
zinc matrix
@river river wtff
analog bone
like is it ketchapp? they probably make a ton of money with their bad games
yeah thats biggest one right now, but still
carmine frigate
gunna watch a movie, gl ๐
river river
enjoy ๐
zinc matrix
Yeah
My mmo is my final product
My child
I don't think its bad
But if it fails i guess ill just find job
Poland
analog bone
where do you live ponkkis? Your name sounds like someone from finland came up with it xd
zinc matrix
How can a bum like me know about jobs
analog bone
where do you live xd that sounded like a threat
zinc matrix
Yes
I don't mind
My parents support me for now
I will mind later
But at the worst, ill try to use mmo i made as portfolio
And get unity job
At CDProjekt
@zinc matrix
Kidding, not this company ๐
Any other
Less prestigious
analog bone
make a only fans account xd
analog bone
xdddddd
zinc matrix
I look weird on pics
analog bone
same
@zinc matrix Since you are finnish, you must know eeddspeaks XD. I got him to do a video about my game when it is published!
Yeah!
Pretty hyped, I remember like growing up watching his videos and now he is making a video about my game
Nope, just sent him a email!
Or sent like 100 emails and only one that responded was him
Yeah!
atomic cedar
Iยดve got news. I managed to create the partition but its blank
I had to convert from MBR to GPT, and then create the partition. But sadly lost its contents
fathom wadi
you could have rebuilt it from the file allocation table
zinc matrix
I think i slso converted in past with special program
But kept files
@atomic cedar life is brutal
But we have to go through it
With regrets
Make games
And fail to make money... And watch others doing same stuff And not failing
foggy path
Who cares about what others do honestly :P
zinc matrix
Literally everyone whos active on social media
foggy path
who cares what people on social media do lol
foggy path
yes again why should you care about what they do
zinc matrix
@foggy path but j never check social media
foggy path
all I do on social media is post bad memes ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
zinc matrix
I only checked my oneitis yesterday
My number stopped working so she cant text me
I wonder if she want to
She has no my fb
Bro
How to identify patreon subscriber acc with game acc?
woven helm
I need a nice new wallpaper, probably something UE4 related
zinc matrix
Kk sending my face rendered in ue4
pearl elk
I write long posts on social media that no one likes or reads
or maybe they are too scared to like it cuz their employer is watching ๐
zinc matrix
is there a way to download faster in Epic launcher?
or do they have Ubisoft-like servers
shadow no olympus jutsuu
sage tendon
@zinc matrix sure, just download faster
pearl elk
download a download booster
foggy path
man remember those programs
like GetRight
allow you to resume interrupted downloads and even speed it up sometimes!
zinc matrix
CCCOOOPPPEEE
foggy path
why do you keep saying that
foggy path
very funny
pearl elk
You need Jesus!
foggy path
32
pearl elk
can still download GetRight lol
sage tendon
sigh
covert nebula
it's my birthday today and i'm super late for work because i got so freaking drunk last night ๐
median wraith
Happy Drunk day then
foggy path
last time when I worked at an office they told me I had flexible hours so I didn't have to be at the office at the same time always
so I'm like okay cool
then at some point they're like "zomg you can't just come and go when you please" when I actually was showing up at like noon on some days lol
zinc matrix
https://i.imgur.com/dwrC3np.png thats clearly envy
sage tendon
No, i just learned my grandmother is getting palliative sedation tomorrow and it will be her end.
I have this afternoom to say goodbye
median wraith
:/
sage tendon
.<
sage tendon
I know, i lost in march 2 people in 2 days
sage tendon
Aunt and grandfather
zinc matrix
you can stretch
longevity diet + passive income
= live
2x more
but i probably wont live to very old age because i had insane drug binge in the past
tbh my father is only gasping recently
watching tv out of boredom.. poor guy
pearl elk
Sorry to hear that @sage tendon
analog bone
Wassup bois
zinc matrix
calm down bae
analog bone
Okay ๐ฆ
tulip orbit
wtf over
zinc matrix
my room smells like horse shit jfl ๐
that rare farm smell
it must be me rotting
bro ponkkis
today mmo releaseee
bugged as fug...
but...
idc...
nothing works the way i think it should
analog bone
Do you like release it today like legit release
analog bone
Aa, okay
sage tendon
Fixed the encryption yet?
zinc matrix
coping much yet
fluid bloom
holy fuck why do people use javascript
it was just disclosed that some library has a vulnerability
and that fucking library (lodash) is a transitive dependency in like 900 packages in this tiny-ass-project that I'm working on
millions of CI pipelines are probably broken now
foggy path
What's the vulnerability? @fluid bloom
I can't find anything recent on lodash
there was a prototype pollution vulnerability a while back on it which was widely publicized but pretty much irrelevant for most usecases...
novel latch
free Ubisoft game on EGS
When I click to download this crap, do I have to install another launcher? ๐ค
pearl elk
All modern Ubi games run on Uplay no matter which launcher you use
proud pier
When Conan renigs last seconds
novel latch
thanks for saving my time MonsO! โค๏ธ
proud pier
Not anymore
foggy path
Oh it was just for a day or something?
proud pier
Epic pulled it at the very last minute
foggy path
Okay so I wasn't just imagining it then lol
proud pier
Lots of drama happening all over internet about it lol
foggy path
Oh no my free game goddamnit epic you ruined my life
novel latch
let me guess, ubisoft wasn't cool releasing trackmania at the same time with another multiplayer?
pearl elk
It only takes a few clicks to move your release date on steam
I think the con is more in people getting their knickers in a twist over dumb shit ๐
proud pier
I'm curious how ooblets will do. They seem to have a huge fanbase
But " Early Access"
Sounds super strange. Especially since they got so much money from Double Fine and then Epic
pearl elk
Are the Karens review bombing Conan on steam yet?
proud pier
alpine fern
ah yes let me play this shit game for 300 hours
pearl elk
This is really odd, wernt they complaining a few months back about any game put on EGS
I mean some consistency Steam plebs please ๐
pearl elk
EXXXCLLLLUUUUSSSSIIIIIVE! (but not really)
alpine fern
wot
why does trying to launch trackmania from EGS open this window
that doesn't seem to be working right
pearl elk
I'll send all my spam to you
alpine fern
ono I leaked my incredibly obvious email
if you try it again, the window has a different style 
pearl elk
Try the top suggestion, see if it works ๐
alpine fern
nope
alpine fern
ok so if I open uplay instead
I can activate the game normally there
then launching it from EGS works
except now it wants to install the game again
why is it so scuffed
pearl elk
Truckmanaia Pleb Edition
As soon as I heard about the sales model I noped out of that one
I preferred the earlier games anyways, Nations was pretty naff
zinc matrix
@median wraith why?
zinc matrix
wym removing
tulip orbit
the sad part, is that they'll actually make money with that
zinc matrix
the latest game i played which you could create your own tracks is GT5
i played ps1 games that had track creation built-in
yes they make
but
i ll make money the same way!!!
EAE
eae much?
3<
my game will be able to be played in browser in 5min if all goes well
pearl elk
The track editor has been a selling point of Trackmania for ages
tulip orbit
I spent lots of time making tracks in the original
pearl elk
How dare they charge for a product they spent years of their time working on!
tulip orbit
yeah!
carmine frigate
last time i played u had to spectate some rounds if u hadnt payed
actually not a bad way to give the full experience and still get ppl to pay
novel latch
today I found out that the logitech mx518 was remade, can't wait to get my hands on it ๐
feeling like a little๐งagain
my g5 has a cut cord
and my old mx518 left or right click is difficult to press
pearl elk
take the switches out of the g5 and put em in the mx518 ๐
pearl elk
oh, they do snap on their own
pearl elk
my g500s has a big kink in it, it'll snap one day, its pretty common for logitech
pearl elk
g5 was pretty decent for the time, bit heavy
novel latch
lemme grab'em rly quick and tell which one is better
pearl elk
I had the rusty g5
novel latch
I had the blue
pearl elk
I dont recommend the g502, its pretty shit so I went back to my g500s
foggy path
@pearl elk really
The G502 is literally the best logi mouse i've used
:P
and I owned an MX500, a G9x and some others
novel latch
it smells like oil leaked or some s<3t
pearl elk
I didnt mind the 502 but the 500s is better, I got my 502 cheap then they doubled the price so its not worth it
foggy path
I am considering checking out the G Pro Wireless at some point
novel latch
and the winner is... Steelseries Sensei
foggy path
Sensei is nice but the sensor has negative acceleration
novel latch
that's the 3rd mouse I had after cutting my g5 cord
the oil is comming from the g5 mouse wheel, I'm not gonna open dat s<3t
foggy path
Another one I've used recently is the Roccat Kone Pure
also quite nice and very very lightweight
pearl elk
I like my roccat keyboard, Ive tried to like the new logi ones but I miss the classics
foggy path
but G502 beats it in button feel and overall the materials and everything just feels nicer
pearl elk
I did notice they have a new tenless but I dunno, Im happy with roccat now ๐
foggy path
I also have an oldschool ball mouse
an original Razer Boomslang :D
...it's pretty crappy tbh
but that's the mouse which started the whole "gaming mouse" thing
literally the first one
pearl elk
bwahahaha Logitech youre dreamin mates... $379.95 for a tenless
They used to make affordable gaming gear now its like celebrity chef kitchen appliances, over hyped
novel latch
logitech started very strong, then had a lot of garbo, but g502 is great
and the fact they brought back mx518, finally
is cool 2
pearl elk
At the price point I originally paid the g502 is good not at over $100aud though, its not THAT good
pearl elk
I bet the mx518 will sell for more than what they originally retailed at lol
novel latch
the new mx518 is pretty cheap btw, 40โฌ here
I mean, it also comes with less buttons so yeah...
but f it, retro I go
pearl elk
Its got new sensors
foggy path
ya but I mean design-wise
novel latch
the mouse is fat, let's be honest ๐
pearl elk
not that much different to the g500s
novel latch
but I'm gonna smile like a child when using the mouse, so worth it
foggy path
ugh i'm trying to decide what to buy from steam so I can get my total up to 30 eur for the 5 eur discount lol
pearl elk
I need a 50 button mouse
tulip orbit
buy me a steam copy of satisfactory ๐
foggy path
yeah that looked pretty neat but it's not really a game is it lol
novel latch
it's a really cute toy
tulip orbit
easier to play with friends who have it
tulip orbit
it is ๐
foggy path
apparently the online mode works across egs / steam too which is pretty nice
novel latch
maybe sunset overdrive ๐ค
I'll spare your time and won't mention my japanese games on my wishlist ๐
novel latch
sekiro, code vein, attack on titan 2, assault spy, devil may cry 5
pearl elk
will I die of electrocution if I sweat
carmine frigate
my mum used to flight attend so she would bring toys from japan when i was a kid ๐
novel latch
once piece: pirate warriors 4
novel latch
@carmine frigate I wish we swapped, my dad brought toys from france ๐
carmine frigate
like remote controlled helicoper when no1 ever seen one here
damn i still like toys ๐
novel latch
I didn't touch yakuza at all, neither touched gta 5
and the toys from france were mostly candy
pearl elk
Yakuza annoyed me with tutorials
foggy path
I don't know if I'd compare Yakuza to GTA tbh
both are open world and crime-related I guess that's about it
novel latch
right, you can't play pachinko in gta 
novel latch
what?! ๐
foggy path
yeah I was talking with someone about it recently actually - it seems the reason for it might be that pachinko is heavily regulated in japan, and having it in a game would very likely increase its rating to adults only or something
novel latch
I really love japan, but sometimes they creep me out
zinc matrix
come play my mmo lads http://warnomad.io/
foggy path
creep you out? how so? lol
carmine frigate
korea seems fun aswell
novel latch
and I feel like googling VR Kanojo won't help either
holy s<3t, nope, delete history
tulip orbit
you're now marked in a database
foggy path
lol
foggy path
I dunno it frankly sounds like the same ol' "GAMES ARE NOT SPORTS" thing you hear with esports
the whole "how is that photography" point they're trying to make
it very much takes similar skills to take a good screenshot as it takes to take a good photo
pearl elk
Yeah their point is abit odd but all the screenshots will have the getty watermark
pearl elk
You'll have to pay for the images lol
foggy path
yeah well I guess you can take your own screenshots then lol
pearl elk
Sorry guys lootboxes are out but now we can charge em per screenie... winning
tulip orbit
if screenshots are "photography" now, who owns the rights? The gamedev, or the "photographer" ?
pearl elk
getty seem to think so ๐
foggy path
Not sure if it's ever been contested in court
tulip orbit
yet
pearl elk
I'll just put a mugshot in the corner of every image and call it my content ๐
novel latch
a screenshot is probably not the problem, right? it's uploading said image, same as uploading gameplay video
hello nintendo
stop reading our messages
pearl elk
but seriously, thats why I dont stream... explicit music aside the RIAA would instaban me ๐
tulip orbit
I dont stream cause I have a face for radio. And a voice for silent films.
I space out too much too....
pearl elk
So youre the next Chaplin
tulip orbit
I'm not as entertaining as chaplin
novel latch
I don't stream cause I have a good face, but I also don't want to gain fame just because biology gave me an advantage
pearl elk
I think my dogs have more chance of social media fame than me ๐
pearl elk
I tried teachin em Rocket League but they just steal the ball and run around with it
carmine frigate
my cat only moved for food
median wraith
They ban for the music now ?
I had the fantastic idea about make a game music based
so nobody can stream it
pearl elk
Yeah Twitch recently had abit of a cleanse
carmine frigate
@median wraith make a drumset game, instantly copyright what comes out of it, and flag their stream right away for infringement?
solid plan ๐
foggy path
Twitch has always had rules that restrict playing copyrighted music
They enforce it based on DMCA requests from rights holders
Some copyrights orgs have apparently recently waken up to the fact their music is streamed on twitch and have started sending out DMCA's :P
pearl elk
There is a license you can get, like the one DJs use but its not worth it if Im just streaming myself working in UE4
foggy path
I don't really know how it works for a global audience though
I can get a license from a finnish copyright org for example, but how's that gonna work if someone in the US listens to it on an american streaming platform
pearl elk
well the RIAA is an American thing yeah, not sure if it covers international acts unless they are signed with a US agency
Even Eminem said he had issues with Music to be Murdered by cuz of the Hitchcock samples
They must run the albums through the same algorithms these companies use to flag stuff before hand to find issues
Just wait till image recognition gets better, oh you dont have a coke license, blurs out your can of drink
foggy path
Yeah as long as you have the right to play the music on stream it's perfectly fine
I know folks like Master Boot Record and FiXT Music have announced all of their stuff is safe to play on twitch
pearl elk
Does Spotify have like a streamer mode?
I just let it go random while I work most the time, sounds like heaps of effort to keep an updated list of all music you can play on streams
Infact you would think that might be a service the RIAA offer hehe
foggy path
I'd imagine people have made lists for that already
but yeah sounds like it'd be a lot of work depending on what sorta stuff you'd put in there
sage tendon
Well, dont stream anything that got in a chart
Other music has not enough value for any legal action
Unless a newer version become a charted song, then it has enough value to chase it
sage tendon
Fixed the encryption too?
analog bone
@zinc matrix Where can I play? xd
iron remnant
i thought conan exiles was going free today along with hue
alpine fern
free conan exiles has been canceled
analog bone
@zinc matrix It is not working ๐ฆ
zinc matrix
why
analog bone
Nope ๐
analog bone
okay xd
sage tendon
lol, password shown as plain text
sage tendon
good luck