Sounds like a depressing version of The Sims
#lounge
foggy path
north torrent
I don't particularly like the US or China. I don't have any intention of defending either of them. I just share what I have seen in my life with zero intention of convincing anyone of anything.
It was a wholesome game with cute bunnies, Mr. Zomg.
abstract haven
@north torrent Happy yes, Blissfully Ignorant, Also yes
foggy path
abstract haven
social media fucked up the world, but you are supposed to become a better person and handle it, not repress the information
foggy path
I dunno if it really fucked it up tbh
It just brought all the garbage up to the surface lol
proven thorn
Social media is just a form of entertainment really
abstract haven
people should be responsible for themselves, not some nanny state protecting you from something which will shake your world view, if your mind is developed enough, you will be fine
foggy path
Sadly most people don't develop their minds to such a degree that would work
abstract haven
then weather through it until they do
foggy path
that's how you get Trump
abstract haven
over violating basic human freedoms
mild root
Interesting how this Maslow's hierarchy doesn't work properly sometimes. Some satisfy their basic needs and fail to self fulfill. They lose their minds because of their uselessness and inability to find a fun hobby and they become useless social pseudoactivists. They don't try and can't solve any real problem and become a problem themselves.
north torrent
Social Media just created a culture of disinformation.
foggy path
eh, I think it was already there
it just became easier to disseminate said disinformation
north torrent
People now form their own opinions based on alternate facts with no base in what is real.
mild root
Social media just accelerated natural decadence processes
north torrent
Then people who have the job of stirring up unrest pose as one side or another and make up lies to enrage the other side.
foggy path
I'm just surprised no religion seems to have a good grasp over social media considering they've been feeding all sorts of stories to people for over a thousand years lol
abstract haven
@north torrent there is a video on post truth which does into that, idk if you have seen it
basically because there is so much disinformation, rational facts keep being disproven etc, people revert to 'gut feeling', so its making tribalism much stronger
mild root
When those religions emerged, such technology didn't exist @foggy path that's why religions fail to help them. Religions fit only ancient lifestyle.
foggy path
I dunno, they seem to have been fairly good at taking advantage of emerging media
north torrent
The real problem I have with the system right now is that someone like Russia who doesn't care about one side or the other and just wants to see dissent can use social media to easily create that.
Lets say Russia doesn't want Finland to be on good terms with the EU. They will simply have some Russian guy pose as someone from the EU and start telling stories about how his town was overrun by Muslim immigrants and the EU prevented the government from doing anything about it.
It will all be fake, but it will sow descent and weaken entire nations as a result.
Look at what the UK did to themselves over this kind of misinformation...
foggy path
I mean Russia is literally already doing what you're saying lol
That is literally what they're doing like.. exactly.
north torrent
I'm not saying China has the right answer, I am using a VPN as I type this because access to information is life.
But I am saying the US needs to do something.
mild root
basically because there is so much disinformation, rational facts keep being disproven etc, people revert to 'gut feeling', so its making tribalism much stronger
@abstract haven that's a problem, a huge one caused by global absence of journalism. There is only political propaganda controlled either by governments or influence groups.
north torrent
I was telling you what Russia is literally doing and has been doing for years, Mr. Zomg...
foggy path
Okay it sounded like an example of what they could be doing :P
north torrent
They are literally ruining the world through trolling and nobody other than China has seem to be able to stop it.
mild root
Everyone does it
foggy path
They are being stopped in Finland somewhat at least
north torrent
But Russia does it best and more than anyone else.
foggy path
Some people here exposed the "troll factory" in russia as it was called.. she was invited to the US to receive some kind of award but I think Trump canceled it..
mild root
We can see correlation between government model and a degree of propaganda magnitude
The more authoritarian powers are, the more bs they produce.
abstract haven
@north torrent I think there are two real choices, either let information flow freely and have individuals themsleves choose what to believe, if you do that, it's one of those "what doesnt kill you makes you stronger" scenarios where a lot of fake news will fuck peoples heads up, but also force people to think for themselves a lot more
second would be some kind of meritocracy where experts could determine what was truthful and filter out useless information, but that is prime for corruption
foggy path
Benevolent dictatorship is what I've been saying
abstract haven
and right now, the people censoring information are by no means experts in the fields
north torrent
From life experience I have never seen a group of people more indoctrinated than the United States.
The propaganda they use is just less easily recognized.
But they say some crazy hive mind ideas...
Totally crazy stuff that would be off the wall anywhere else.
abstract haven
or you know, let infromation flow freely and have independent bodies fact-check it by experts in their fields, and then people can just rely on reputable sources, which is p much what europe is like already
I have seen some american youtube adverts, and yeah, its subversive brainwashing for sure
foggy path
the american political system is easy for this tbh, since it's a two party system it's very easy to have this type of "us vs them" situation as they've had for a long time now
that type of system is much easier to game than a system where you have more parties :P
north torrent
I think that you could have a system with independent fact checkers and letting people figure it out for themselves if the platforms such as Facebook and Twitter weren't reliant on the discourse and hate to get people engaged in the platform.
It pays to have platforms that encourage rather than discourage the hate.
foggy path
it honestly seems to equal to stuff like sports team rivalries where there's no real differentiator except you're a fan of one team and the other person is a fan of the other team :D
abstract haven
yeah, generally media feeds peoples dark desires to get views/clicks and thats how it makes money, people need to be better, and possibly set broadcasting standards which dont manipulate people
as for facebook, I kinda think its such an integral part of peoples lives now it should be a public services, and once it is, they wont care about their bottom line as much, so they wont make such explotitive content
north torrent
That sounds like a reasonable solution.
But as long as Mark Zuckeburg or another idiot can get rich off it, there will be zero incentive to try to moderate it to stop the spread of lies and hate.
Facebook should be turned into a non-profit.
Zuck can either take his riches and go away, or we can throw him in a jail cell.
I think taking that billions is certainly the better option.
dim ruin
If I created a multi-billion dollar business and people demanded I hand if over or turn non-profit, I'd be pretty pissed. I'd probably become a real-life Lex Luthor
And really, Facebook is practically non-profit as far as zuck is concerned. He no longer accumulates his wealth. He took "the pledge"
oh and textures.com is awesome if you need sweet textures for custom substance materials
I'm thinking about getting a paid sub maybe. Might legit be worth it
lusty portal
So I found a statue model for sale that is "fan-art" by someone. It's of Nefertiti from Assasins Creed Origins. It says it has a "Royalty Free Licence". If I purchase it and use it in my game could I be liable? It's a new work of art by the person but they were looking at the other statue from Assasins creed as a reference. IDK this probably isn't the place to ask but thought somebody might wanna chat lol
ebon onyx
If you buy stolen goods, it's still stolen goods.
You're responsible for what you put in your game regardless of where you get it from
lusty portal
Lol It's not stolen. It's that grey area of "Fan Art" which adds to the confusion with copyright laws. Personally I assume not risk so I'm not going to buy it. But I was curious
ebon onyx
Fan art doesn't matter in regards to copyright law. It is in violation, full stop. But nobody goes after fan art because it's bad PR.
And because there's nothing to gain often times
But if you go and put it in a game, suddenly you're competing and will be shut down
If you need proof, Nintendo shuts those things down for breakfast
lusty portal
Yea, people don't understand that when they sell their art I assume, because I see a lot of it for sale saying "Royalty free" "can use in video games" etc. But it's definitely not when the character is of Iron man or like you said Mario lol.
The websites should do better vetting when sellers set what kind of product they are selling. Make it editorial or something besides "Royalty Free"
ebon onyx
They don't care, there's too much stuff being uploaded for them to vet everything
And if there is a problem, a quick DMCA takes it down
lusty portal
Yea that's true
ebon onyx
But yeah and this applies to all fan work, 100% of it is in violation of copyright. The only reason anything exists is because it's allowed to. Like Lucasfilm had a policy for many years where they wouldn't go after any fan projects so long as it's noncommercial. Disney doesn't have that stance meanwhile, so it's always kinda muddy if they'll step in.
lusty portal
This was a weird case though because it was just a bust of Nefertiti that looks like the one from Assasins creed, but the bust looks just like any real life bust of Nefertiti. So it's fan art of another game which is a copy of a real statue. Its confusing lol
ebon onyx
The only exceptions are for parody or educational purposes but even then 'fair use' is a legal defense, not legal immunity and you may be asked to defend that in court at any time.
lusty portal
Yea my professors used to always get their videos taken down even though they were under "fair use" for education lol. It made them so mad hahaha.
honest eagle
I believe if you change the name, it'll be classified as parody, which I see in many big commercial games
lusty portal
Thanks for chatting though. I didn't think anyone would lol
ebon onyx
Parody isn't as simple as a name change, there are specific guidelines to what counts as parody and what doesn't. Otherwise it would be a rampantly used excuse for infringement.
abstract haven
@dim ruin just print a stupid amount of money from the federal reserve to buy out the company, its not like they do that all the time anyway
ebon onyx
And for big commercial games, often what they do is they get permission from the copyright holder in the first place.
honest eagle
why would they then change the name?
ebon onyx
Since you would need to be an imbicile to bet a multi million dollar project on 'well I don't think they would go after it'
Because that's likely in the terms of the agreement
honest eagle
sounds a bit bizarre to not go all the way for advertisement, maybe it's to not tie with the product to not harm the company
ebon onyx
When those characters account for your entire way to make money as a business, you want to control it as tightly as possible.
Names are important both for brand consistency and search rankings online
Sometimes the company may be fine with using the name. Other times they may not. It's their choice.
proven thorn
It may also not be a copyright issue, but a trademark issue.
ebon onyx
Also yeah trademark comes into play as well which is a whole different can of worms
proven thorn
Or intellectual property.
You can't buy a fan made model of Mario, put it into your game and then sell it. At least, I'm pretty sure that's the case.
ebon onyx
I mean, you can if you want to find out the names of Nintendo's lawyers
It's a great way to do it
proven thorn
Ha ha, yes, you can do anything but that doesn't mean you should.
dim ruin
Thats a great way to get in touch with their legal team actually.
perhaps some mario fan art statues are in order?
In August 2016, the Unreal Engine Forum suffered a data breach, allegedly due to a SQL injection vulnerability in vBulletin. The attack resulted in the exposure of 530k accounts including usernames, email addresses and salted MD5 hashes of passwords
who the fuck stores passwords using MD5?!
liek for real, anyone in security knows you do not use MD5 for password hashes
I never knew that part of the breach
ebon onyx
It's fine, not like those are important
rigid shoal
At least it's salted, tbh.
dim ruin
that means nothing with the lack of complexity and size of the hash
rigid shoal
Oh, well, time to change my passwords then. ๐ฆ
dim ruin
that was in 2016 though.
zinc matrix
life is uncertainty
ebon onyx
If you don't change your Unreal forum password every 6 months, it's probably been hacked again
dim ruin
lol damn fortnite
zinc matrix
guys is unreal engine dying?
rigid shoal
Ooh, that explains why I get weird Fortnite phishing emails.
You guys get those too?
ebon onyx
Yeah Unreal is dead, go use Gamemaker
zinc matrix
no
dim ruin
engine life is 4 years for every human year
zinc matrix
only unity
ebon onyx
Unity is dead too, sorry
dim ruin
sorry, I mean months
zinc matrix
game maker cant compete with ue4, let alone unity
rigid shoal
Unity might actually be dying. It's certainly lacking on the hype-posts recently.
UE5 and everything has just completely outshined it.
zinc matrix
unity will NEVER DJE
ebon onyx
Unity died in 1987
dim ruin
Hey I like Unity. UE4 and Unity both have pros and cons over eachother
but rendering hands-down UE4
all day
ebon onyx
Yeah, you go get that WoW money
dim ruin
lol
zinc matrix
why phantom?
dim ruin
Lets go on the Unity forums and start a shit post about "How do I make an MMORPG guys?"
those are always awesome
ebon onyx
Phantom is clearly just a UE4 shill. He gets paid $200,000 every time he says Unreal is better.
dim ruin
Ugh, I wish
ebon onyx
Don't we all
dim ruin
I'm down if you are @mellow marlin
ebon onyx
RIP whoever that is
dim ruin
oh shit lol
dim ruin
is that a commercial engine?
proven thorn
I used to be an evangelist for Epic. It was truly one of the best experiences of my life.
ebon onyx
Nope
rigid shoal
Why "used" to be?
proven thorn
I became a dad
dim ruin
Prediction: He got lynchmobbed on twitter
ebon onyx
Epic gave birth to his son
proven thorn
There was a lot of travelling involved
ebon onyx
Bankrupt
dim ruin
that shit looked awesome. Sketchy and confusing. but awesome
ebon onyx
Turns out there isn't much of a market for successful indie 3d mmos
dim ruin
aww thats sad
proven thorn
But it was a great time!
ebon onyx
The only successful game using HeroEngine was SWTOR
dim ruin
it really did sound neat. they even provided an infrastructure
ebon onyx
It's probably where they planned on making their money but you can't sell infrastructure to a company with no user base
dim ruin
Personally, the biggest engine letdown for me was Xenko (now known as Swift). Damn that engine had potential to compete with the big dogs and almost entirely modern .NET-based. It rendered as nice as UE4 and faster. Alexandre left to Unity, Silicon Studios dropped it on its face and now its a community engine with a very uncertain future
Virgil is a good dev but he's not on Alexandre's level
proven thorn
Was its tool set nice?
dim ruin
yeah it was actually pretty nice. Not quite at UE4's ease of use but better than Unity in that regard
rigid shoal
I think it's called "Stride".
proven thorn
Seems to now be called Stride?
dim ruin
Stride, yes
rigid shoal
I was going to say, Swift would have been a really, really bad name.
dim ruin
lol swift :p my bad
proven thorn
Is anybody using it for stuff?
dim ruin
it still could be a decent engine but loosing its best engineer like it did, it'll never be able to keep up pace to compete
meh, mostly just a bunch of enthusiast projects. Only one game I know of. Since the big shift, much of the dev focus had been on adapting the build chain and moving to nuget packages
that was a strong indicator for me. Previously, they would have had that done in a single dev cycle. now it takes several months
proven thorn
Ah, shame.
Maybe a company would pick it up and do cool stuff with it since it is MIT
dim ruin
actually, on that note of their toolset. They came up with a seriously amazing shader system. Its object-oriented essentially. Crazy modular. Included mixins, classes etc and it all gets compiled down to whatever graphics platform you target behind the scenes
I was really impressed by that in particular
and integrated pbr of course for their render pipeline
its a damn shame lol
zinc matrix
guys
i only have one bug to fix before publishing of my MMO..
but the bug is very big
dim ruin
all the code disappeared?
zinc matrix
@dim ruin no its lags in WebGL version (browser)
dim ruin
shenanigans
zinc matrix
yeah
not only the ugly webgl has 30fps
instead of 60
but also network lags...
baddibuyo..
windows version works perfect...
OemGieTime!!!
it kills me inside
like its best game i ever made and its so amazing and unique and here this webgl thing ruins my efforts
dim ruin
Is it like a Leisure Suit Larry but MMO? Because I would buy that
Big missed opportunity there
dim ruin
World of Starcraft!
zinc matrix
lol
dim ruin
I'd buy that too. Just sayin'
ebon onyx
Lag isn't a bug, that's just a problem.
zinc matrix
it doesnt matter what it is
ebon onyx
Have you tried turning it off and on again
zinc matrix
oof
its like WebGl is not ok with me sending network updates 120 times per second
its ok with about 20 times per second
but its not enough
dim ruin
u no like websockets?
ebon onyx
It's fine just do what everyone else does and interpolate the data
zinc matrix
cant interpolate
ebon onyx
And then write an extensive prediction algorithm to make lag less noticeable
zinc matrix
because
ebon onyx
And then use a carrier pigeon to send the remaining packets
zinc matrix
the movement is realtime
proven thorn
Just make it up, no one is going to know anyways
zinc matrix
dim ruin
Not sure if I should click that
ebon onyx
Not often I see people go for the '90s skater' camera fov
zinc matrix
you mean the round planet?
ebon onyx
Also I know this is probably too advanced for Unity, but have you considered textures?
zinc matrix
oof
dim ruin
is this like "Genital Jousting" but walking?
ebon onyx
Naruto running*
Also failing to see the MMO part of this 2 player game
Sorry, 1 player game with an AI
dim ruin
Just playing. If thats your game, congrats. Gettin' a bit savage in here
zinc matrix
dim ruin
ah it makes sense now
dim ruin
I like lowpoly stuff. thats neat looking
zinc matrix
and will kick off
ebon onyx
Yeah, you're right. It's just too good, I don't know how to handle it
It's jealousy, really.
I'm just sitting here picking my favorite colors for the evening while you're making real games
dim ruin
brb. need a cigarette and decide whether to get the premium sub for https://www.textures.com/ or not
ebon onyx
I usually go for one off purchases on there
$50 will last you ages
No need for a sub unless you're at a company that uses it for a ton of employees
dim ruin
I debated on that too. A sub is a shitload of downloads that I probably won't need
ebon onyx
Points expire after a while too, gotta make sure you actually use what you pay for
Also what they don't tell you, your 15 free points a day don't count towards a purchase unless you get the free version first. That'll drain your free points and stretch it further
So get the lower res version, cancel the download, then the premium one at a discounted price
dim ruin
oh neat!
Right now I'm just doing terrain materials but there's some neat grunges and stuff on there
zinc matrix
buddy buyo
ebon onyx
Those, the leaks, and the splashes I always find the most useful
Since leaks and splashes are super hard procedurally so they're still a decent time investment
dim ruin
Yeah for sure.
zinc matrix
3<
lusty portal
You guys don't know of any egyptian armor, characters, etc. do you? I've noticed there really isn't a lot out there to purchase.
ebon onyx
Anything historical that isn't ninjas, samurai, or knights is going to be super niche
lusty portal
lol I can find lots of spears. It's just egyptian stuff in general is scarce. Why is it that ninjas and knights are so common?
ebon onyx
Ninjas and knights are common because in their respective countries there's been a billion stories about their time periods
dim ruin
Medieval is extremely common
ebon onyx
And Japan is super influential in the game market so it made its way over
dim ruin
still fun though
ebon onyx
We're not really exposed to the history of other countries nearly as often, Egypt being one of them. Especially not in an entertainment context. There's the ten commandments and that's about it.
zinc matrix
what is njnja
ebon onyx
A fornite streamer
ebon onyx
MMOs don't exist
zinc matrix
were japanese ninjas naruto-running?
ebon onyx
Who would believe you can have a lobby with more than 32 players
zinc matrix
and doing jutsu
lusty portal
Yea that sucks too because I love Egyptian stuff. I'm fascinated by it. But with the world how it is now it looks like I'll never get to visit it. ๐ฆ
zinc matrix
make game about
ebon onyx
Wait 20 years
zinc matrix
egyptian ninja
rigid shoal
You know Egypt is about to go to war?
lusty portal
with who? Corona?
rigid shoal
With Ethiopia.
ebon onyx
I haven't slept in a while, they're all the same to me
dim ruin
lol
proven thorn
UT2004 did explore some of that stuff. Was kind of cool.
Didn't one of the Assassin's Creed explore that region as well?
rigid shoal
Lots of games explore ancient Egypt. It's kind of weird that there aren't any assets for it.
lusty portal
I know right! All of the websites have the same typical assets. Oh well. Guess I gotta learn how to make my own assets lol
ebon onyx
What a tragedy
lusty portal
lol It's on my very long to do list
pearl elk
Unreal Championship 2 is very Egyptian Ninja
zinc matrix
Regarding copyright Nintendo and Disney are why I hate it. I like a lot of obscure stuff which I think is unbeatable, but if especially Disney were to buy up the IP I love then it's under their mercy.
I honestly think that people in China are on average happier than people in the United States. I think a lot of it has to do with not having Twitter and Facebook arguments and literally hating half the people in your own country over trolls on the internet sparking flames.
@north torrent people are sort of forced to embrace Chinese political correctness.
north torrent
I have never heard anyone put the word Chinese before the word political correctness.
China is the kind of place where a random stranger has no problem walking up to you and saying, "wow, you are really fat, and why is your skin so black?"
zinc matrix
basically the CCP are justified in everything they do even if it looks like a power grab liked 1987.
China still has sexist views, like censoring men wearing earrings
Although it's not like America with its own form of political correctness, where "God and capitalism will solve everything"
Sure there are leftists in America but since 2016 their political influence has waned within government
north torrent
That's censorship not political correctness.
zinc matrix
Chinese people risk punishment for agreeing with anything that goes against what the CCP approve of though. Not the same in America although religious conservatives and neolibs sort of want the same deal I reckon.
north torrent
I'm creating multiple social media accounts to leave bad reviews for a former employer... Does that make me a bad man?
Attorney General William Barr wants to turn the United States into Iran, not China.
zinc matrix
I'm curious to know how
north torrent
Well, it looks like my fun is up, they turned of comments on their YouTube videos and disabled comments on Facebook...
I'm going to go look for more ways to try to mess with their recruiting.
tulip orbit
your fav color?
north torrent
Nah, my favorite colors are process blue, Prussian blue, spectral violet, and lavender.
I can't find any more ways to damage my former employers reputation on social media...
Guess I'll quit for now. Maybe send some nasty emails to people tomorrow.
tulip orbit
I cant seem to get motivated this morning
tulip orbit
I drink coffee, am having some n ow
north torrent
It is almost Dragon Boat Festival time though.
zinc matrix
yeah but do you eat 2000kcal first
golden wedge
Anybody have any recommendations for comfortable headphones for somebody with admittedly big ears
I ordered a pair that arrived yesterday and wanted to return after 20 minutes. I need a pair I can wear most of the day for calls and gaming and all sorts
mossy nexus
hyperx cloud 2
mossy nexus
Mine broke earlier this year and stupidly I got a cheaper replacement. I really miss my old headset.
golden wedge
Gonna look it up thank you
They look nice. Not loving the big Mic part though, I use it for professional use too so I'd prefer to just use my separate microphone.
Can it be removed?
foggy path
Sennheiser has some very comfy headphones
the HD-5xx series ones are nice and pretty good bang for your buck audio quality wise as well
golden wedge
dang those cost a penny
foggy path
should be around the same as the hyperx cloud 2 ๐ค
golden wedge
Cloud are half the price on amazon for me, but I'm in the UK
foggy path
the HD-558 for example
golden wedge
not sure if that makes a diff
The cloud 2's are ยฃ78 for me, how much are you seeing the 558 for?
golden wedge
ooh interesting
foggy path
they are open back headphones though so they won't block outside noise much
foggy path
basically it means the outside of the cups is open and not closed, like it has holes in it
golden wedge
I see
foggy path
closed headphones block outside sound better than open headphones
golden wedge
Why do they do that?
foggy path
so if you work in a noisy location, closed headphones can isolate you a bit by blocking the noise
north torrent
But do you really want outside sound to be blocked?
north torrent
Then what happens if someone knocks on the door?
golden wedge
dogs will let me know trust me
foggy path
:D
https://www.thomann.de/gb/akg_k_361.htm these should be pretty good closed headphones
golden wedge
https://www.hyperxgaming.com/unitedkingdom/us/headsets/cloud-mix-wired-gaming-headset-with-bluetooth these are bluetooth as well
golden wedge
$400 :X
north torrent
You can't put a price on good sound, Mr. Sam.
golden wedge
Sadly I think I have to haha
I mean I'm still using ยฃ40 used monitors so if I had that kind of cash....
these are the ones I got that I need to return
north torrent
foggy path
I've tried the Sennheiser HD-800's when they were the top of the line ~1000 bucks cans in Sennheiser's lineup
Not worth it imo, especially as they were a lot less comfortable than my HD-650's
You'd have to listen to super freaking high quality recordings to get any benefit out of it I think
north torrent
It is worth it for me if Mr. Sam is spending he money...
foggy path
lol
imo around 100-150 usd is the limit of what gives you good value for money
with wireless or noise cancelling maybe a bit more than that
north torrent
I want the haptic feedback headphones...
foggy path
since those usually add 50-100 bucks to the price
if you go past that price point, yeah you'll get slightly nicer audio, slightly nicer build quality, etc. - but it's diminishing returns unless you're an audiophile willing to pay for it
north torrent
Closed back is one thing... noise cancelling... that's pretty much a deal breaker. Couldn't deal with headphones that cancel noise.
I need my situational awareness in case a tiger walks up behind me while I am playing Star Citizen.
foggy path
let me see if I can find the photo I took of the three sennheiser boxes I had, those showcase the difference between the products so well..
Bottom right is the cheapest, HD-555 around 80 bucks, bottom left is HD-650's around 300 bucks iirc
top is HD-800 ~1000 usd
you can see how fucking fancy ass that HD-800 box is
north torrent
But can it stop a bullet?
foggy path
the build materials on the box are so freaking nice, like that's really nice soft cloth in there, and it has a proper metal hinge on it
I really like this picture because it shows the differences between consumer and luxury products so well
north torrent
I still want a bullet proof box.
foggy path
it might stop a .22 I guess 
north torrent
All guns are the same, so if it stops one it will stop them all.
pearl elk
So basically you paid $600 for a cool box and got a pair of $400 headphones same as the ones in the grey box
maybe you can use the black silk for a loin cloth
foggy path
I returned the 800's so I paid nothing
pearl elk
and got a free loin cloth... winning
If you didnt tell me headphones came in that big black box I might have assumed something else big and black was in it ๐
You know like an original Xbox gamepad
pearl elk
built in subwoofa
foggy path
the regular xbox controller would come in a box resembling the crappy plastic one in the bottom right
foggy path
That's a lot of letters
pearl elk
In a bizarre plot twist Apple releases a new ARM powered console that only comes in black ๐
foggy path
is it an iPhone
night grove
iConsole you
pearl elk
so who is excited for the new Nvidia cards?
30% performance boost woop woop
its 30% on a 2080 ti
That EVGA 2080Ti is a monster
zinc matrix
Still bad. New consoles are year away, so RTX will not be a serious thing for another 1+ year. By that time you will have 4000 series.
pearl elk
Well its not all about the RTX, if it were I dont think the 2080Ti would top the benchmark there
zinc matrix
If it's not RTX than what's the point to upgrade?
zinc matrix
Did you used all that 2080 power for anything?
pearl elk
I dont have a 2080, I dont buy 1st gen
I like to give tech some breathing room, get the bugs out n everythin
zinc matrix
3 times the charm, so 4000 series is the thing
pearl elk
well technically the 3080 is the third time
founders, super... 3080 ๐
Will it run Half-life 3... I have no idea
Last of Us 3 it should run hehe
fringe sundial
the RTX gpus are kinda devkits for the next gen
xbox has mesh shadesr, VRS, rays... all stuff that is exclusively only on 2060 and up gpus
pearl elk
Its gonna be great when I get my PS5 and I can install 2 games on it at a time ๐
I think I might hold off see if they release one with a bigger SSD
100GB Last of Us 2 and I need a play disc trololol
MS aint much better off either, Gears 5 is super massive. I could probably fit that and GTA 5, thats about it
Stadia to the rescue, craaaaazy
fluid bloom
fucking hell, I gained like 3 kg more weight over the last weekend (midsummer bbq weekend)
pearl elk
mmm bbq, I got a new scale and it says Im fatter ๐ฆ
fluid bloom
was a great weather tho, the water in the lake was like 24 C
pearl elk
Did it mend? ๐ฎ
I hated when I hurt my neck, put on alittle weight but I could walk, infact it was one of the only things I could really do that didnt hurt too badly
wow, sounds like it. Im guessing it was like a compound fracture
ibuprofen I woulda told her what to do with that lol
yeah thats weak as too, I was on quite strong codeine for my neck but I hate that stuff. Its addictive so you constantly have to be keeping yourself in check with it to not go too far
yeah I go abit loopy on the higher dosages
I get a hell of a sense of humour but yeah things get abit strange lol
fluid bloom
strong stuff is rarely given in Finland
pearl elk
yeah I had to jump through some hoops here to get it, even when you have a prescription the pharmacy grills you
I remember when the Dr gave me some when I almost cut my thumb off, I walked into the pharmacy and theyre all like "why do you need these" I just lifted my hand and told em straight. They were like oops
people bake it down and add it to street drugs so I guess its understandable
if you want the good stuff go to the US, can get almost anything from a GP lol
put on a VR headset and woohoo you can fly
tulip orbit
jump off a cliff and you can fly ๐
pearl elk
I think they call that falling, with style
tulip orbit
temporary flight
pearl elk
flap your arms really fast
tulip orbit
ok, my arms are tired now
pearl elk
now hum the song fly like an eagle
tulip orbit
hums "like a stone"
sharp wolf
the only time i fall of a cliff and feel like im flying is before i go to sleep
i hate when that happens!
fluid bloom
27 C indoors, kill me
thorny dock
they say that when you have that falling feeling, like where your laying in bed and suddenly your entire body jumps, is because you were able to focus into a deep meditative state and you were astral projecting, that jump was you repossessing yourself
tulip orbit
was 29c here the other day, I was cooked
placid thistle
40C+ during the day, 28-30C at night, every day, for the past few weeks ๐ฆ
placid thistle
lol, TX
tulip orbit
close enough ๐
placid thistle
that outdoors, in the shade
tulip orbit
thats just too hot
placid thistle
probably 35-38C inside, without A/C
well, actually closer to 32C
I don't know how folks without A/C do it o.O
tulip orbit
๐ฅต
its only 21c here and I find it warm
gotta go mow the lawn before it rains tho :/
placid thistle
makes no sense.. let it grow more after the rain, then mow it all down ๐
soft night
32C
fathom wadi
I went to a sauna the other day. I just don't get it. There I was, surrounded by greasy fat naked men. And to top it all off, I burnt my lips on a ladle, trying to get a drink.
soft night
sauna is hot and finland is hot
tulip orbit
fathom wadi
I hate being warm so a sauna would kill me. Also I have night terrors, so I wake up like I've been in a sauna most nights :p
soft night
sauna is so refrshing when its hot outside
plucky pagoda
That sounds horrid to me. I could see a hot tub though.
plucky pagoda
Mao ship me some Switch consoles
dim ruin
Holy shit lol check this out
https://80.lv/articles/creating-next-gen-grass-in-ue4/
Modelled each blade of grass for better performance
And instanced of course
plucky pagoda
Wasn't the pack he's showing there free a while back
north torrent
I'm a little cash poor at the moment. I have a lot of food stockpiled though.
plucky pagoda
or maybe it still is
I'll mark them up to 500 and we can split the profitt
or I'd settle for just finding one that's not the old model and marked up
north torrent
I have 3 months of food and I paid my rent for the next 3 months, so I am just going to stay in my apartment and not leave for the next 3 months...
plucky pagoda
No mortgage payment until august for us, refi, took out equity put in a gargage, finihsing the old one and added a pool
I mean did a lot more than that but those are the big ones
north torrent
Rent is paid until September 10th, stockpile of food, brand new phone, brand new computer, finally got my stuff shipped here from Shenzhen, got my Wacom working again.
I've got everything I need for the foreseeable future. I'm just cash poor until July 10th. Then I will have a large paycheck and not need to spend any of it.
plucky pagoda
Nice
north torrent
I think travel from the US to China is still banned.
But if nothing weird happens over the next 4 months I will have my savings back up to pre-corona virus levels.
Shanghai is very strict. If there was another outbreak of even 50 cases I could see things being shut down again.
But then I would just have to teach online and it would only slightly slow down my earning.
We get paid 60% to teach from home, but we only have to work a few hours a day. So to me I am fine with it.
I had a student, who has a dad. His dad works at a business. A man his dad met with had been in Beijing last week. Beijing has had 100 new cases last week, so it got shut down by the government.
As a result my student can't come to school for 14 days, because his dad met a man that traveled through Beijing.
100 cases out of over 20million people in Beijing.
They are strict, so I am not worried about things getting out of hand here. The will squash any outbreak with extreme force.
It is the extreme force and how that will effect you financially you have to worry about... But I think I am in a decent position to handle that now.
Before when I had to move cities it was a huge ordeal, and traveling from the US was a huge ordeal.
Being in the government quarantine facility was no fun either, and cost a lot of money.
plucky pagoda
I've been trying to sit down and eat for like an hour but my 3year old is nuts today
Setting up control rig today. Been working on that and trying to understand the ability system
Our daily cases have started doubling over the last seven days and the Governor's answer is to run a few "optimistic" telivision ads.
@north torrent they charge for it?
north torrent
Yes...
I wonder what happens to poor people...
They don't charge you till after, so what if you are poor, get quarantined by the government, and then they throw a big bill at you when you leave...
So apparently in the United States it is Walmart's policy to hide it from the public when an employee comes down with the corona-virus.
So remember that if you go shopping.
The won't even tell the other employees at the store which associate had the corona-virus, so the employees don't know how close they were to patient zero...
plucky pagoda
It's not just walmart
north torrent
In China this would be highly illegal.
plucky pagoda
A lot of companies are trying to keep a lid on any positives
At the state level, at least in Ohio, we get county numbers but only those tested somewhere that turns over numbers. We do now get a list of any nursing home that has a postive as well as the count.
They present the data in a way that makes it look better too. 21 day averages instead of a rolling 7 or 3 day
north torrent
In China communication is the key to stopping outbreaks. Most people have voluntarily downloaded the app that tracks your position in comparison to people who come down with the virus.
So say you come down with the virus. The app will go back through everywhere you had been in the past week and flag all the people who were close to you.
So if I was at Starbucks the same time you were at Starbucks on Tuesday. Then on Friday you get a positive corona-virus test, then my app would flag me as yellow as opposed to green.
Then I would need to stay home for 14 days.
Yellow people don't need to get the test, just to stay isolated for 14 days just in case.
Red people need to go get the test ASAP.
plucky pagoda
FFS, you can't even get people to wear a mask here
north torrent
In China they can tell you the case numbers down to the neighborhood.
It isn't a matter of Beijing has 100 cases. They know which neighborhoods had those cases. They know 23 cases were between this street and this other street.
It isn't like Facebook and Google aren't already spying on your location... why not let the gps spy on your location for corona-virus as opposed to just selling the information for huge profits.
We don't have to wear masks anymore.
zinc matrix
this is because china doesn't care about money as much as america does and has a little more faith in science too
north torrent
It is voluntary in China too. It is not forced on anyone.
I can't go into work without the app. But I have every right to not have the app and stay home from work.
Just like you can't go to Starbucks without the app. But nobody said you need to go to Starbucks. They will deliver to you without the gps app.
zinc matrix
agh, i need to go sleep but i don't want to. it's hot but i just don't want to sleep now
north torrent
I work with lots of children, so it makes sense I should be required to have the tracking app.
Get a fan.
north torrent
Then don't.
zinc matrix
i want to go talk to americans and canadians but i should be asleep at this time. can't afford to leave the UK yet
zinc matrix
i've played a UE4 game where some salty American players insisted I moved because of the lag
but when private companies are involved people are willing to use it
i'm now gradually trying to migrate to more non-profit apps
north torrent
It has worked for Shanghai, that's all I know.
It has to be used with all the other steps.
Travel bans are the real key. Gotta keep people from Brazil and the US out of your countries.
zinc matrix
russia is an unusual case since they took the virus seriously but they have become much worse than the UK
north torrent
I think the whole world should band together and not allow people from the US and Brazil to travel anywhere.
So then the US can only send planes to Brazil and Brazil to the US.
zinc matrix
sweden's response is like the UK's only way more relaxed. sweden doesn't have as many people as the UK does though
don't get me fucking started on bolsonaro
north torrent
Russia has been ruining the rest of the world for a decade now... I can't feel bad for Russia...
zinc matrix
some people sadly worship it because it's not "decadent" and "perverted" unlike the west
plucky pagoda
Just had an entire order of lumber cancelled because apaerently everyone is out of pressure treated lumber.
north torrent
I had my students in my creative writing class write a story after watching this video yesterday.
zinc matrix
because russia is fucking propped by fascists
who want to go back two centuries like america, brazil, turkey
north torrent
I probably shouldn't keep loading 9 year old Chinese brains with Russian stereotypes from the US... But I do...
plucky pagoda
ffs, can't get a switch, can't get the lumber to put in a patio, can't get chicken flavored ramen. What is the world coming to?
north torrent
Have you ever really lived then?
plucky pagoda
I think. Is the light green one the white miso?
north torrent
That red one is one of my standards.
plucky pagoda
same
north torrent
The purple and the red are the ones I keep in stock. Then I just randomly try others when I am bored.
There is a version of the purple with super spicy pickled peppers that is also good. It comes in a green package.
plucky pagoda
Can't get a lot of it right now.
north torrent
I had to make 'funk' one of my vocab words for the week...
I want tacos... but they are hard to get right now...
north torrent
I'm going to finish setting up my home gym in my other room so I don't have to leave my apartment till school starts again.
plucky pagoda
I've started putting one in upstairs.
They've got to do something about how animations are reviewed for the marketplace.
Just way too many that are not what they claim to be. Maybe mandate a video showing the skeleton while it animates or something.
supple crystal
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1353070/Gronions/
Gronions is now on Steam!
Experience battle across the universe, like never before. Gronions for PC, is coming this summer! Learn more:
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1353070/Gronions/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPXzFIdrvY9NhEZJx4lnPYQ
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Gronionsgame
Website: http://gronions.com/
plucky pagoda
I thought it was an attempt to test the purge command
It does more harm than good and just ticks people off
supple crystal
....LOL nop, i just published in Released and Lounge, but before publish i review chat conversations and i found other tailers and game lauches in here, just to be sure before post
So i did check
๐
plucky pagoda
Not really
sleek furnace
Looks great
I like Gronions art direction on Steam
sleek furnace
LOL, but legos are yellow and crispy rounded, this Gronion is kind of squared and has 3 hairs ahaha cool
plucky pagoda
@sleek furnace What's the name of the game you just set up on Steam?
supple crystal
Hi, the game is called Gronions
Steam images come directly from the game as screenshoots, hopfully the official trailer is done next week, it took lot of time and effort to finish the game
supple crystal
Thank you very much, i hope you like it, iยดll share the trailer as soon as itยดs ready
rare sparrow
alpine fern
it bothered me so much that I fixed it
real palm
zinc matrix
Those noodles look delicious
It's just lockdown though and I need to try and save money.
north torrent
What saves money more than eating noodles?
zinc matrix
Not spending money, even though I'm sipping beer right now.
Those noodles are quite filling though
Fuck. idk if I want to go out today though. May need to study
pearl elk
not all noodles are dog flavoured ๐
as to the BP noodles, those nodes should snap together, the wires are pointless
foggy path
tfw when you look for info on something UE-related and there's a forum post from 2016 saying the feature is complete but there's still no documentation
zinc matrix
not all noodles are dog flavoured ๐
@pearl elk I go for the beef flavored ones
@north torrent I live in the UK. Everything costs way too much.
north torrent
Steal it then.
zinc matrix
I'm feeling torn because there's a brand of instant noodles from the Philippines I want but it'll invoke feelings of nostalgia for me. idk if I want such nostalgia
Also I wanted to learn cpp to avoid bp noodles
zinc matrix
Steal it then.
@north torrent I'm sympathetic to anarchism but my freedom costs too much and I don't want my local Asian market to like shut down and have its owner be impoverished or imprisoned against his will
Learning golang or rust instead
But I envy someone who can program in cpp
north torrent
I just use blueprints because they are awesome.
foggy path
I just use blueprints because I'm too lazy to look at unreal's source code to learn how to use any of the other stuff :p
...and it does the job just fine
there's just a feeling that there might be some useful stuff on the cpp side, especially because there's like 0 documentation on most of it so you never know what is available there
north torrent
I'm not smart enough to know such things.
zinc matrix
I hear ue4 is more performant with cpp, and if you are me and needing to submit source code as part of an assignment, easier to read too;
north torrent
I don't even know what those words mean... I just make games...
zinc matrix
Had to use cpp to output text files too.
foggy path
On Tick goes brrrrrt
unborn schooner
do you guys still play video games from time to time? what changed after you got into game dev?
north torrent
I play games a very average amount.
That amount never really changed from before I was a game dev to when I was learning. Didn't change when I was working in the game industry or when I quit doing game design for almost 5 years. And it hasn't switched now that I am back doing game design as a hobby.
The way I play games and the games I choose has changed however. Just not the amount of time spent.
foggy path
I still play games a lot except when I'm actually doing dev stuff
I usually just end up spending a lot of time working on the dev things instead of playing games if I'm working on something interesting :D
north torrent
Making an MMO is the ultimate time thief.
pearl elk
Things changed more from the responsibilities of adulthood than in regards to developing for me
I still game but in more spaced out chunks when I get free time compared to my youth where I had a more steady stream of gaming
Could be why the retirement age of Dota players is like 12 hehehe
north torrent
Being an adult sort of sucks...
pearl elk
Its great in theory ๐
zinc matrix
yeah
being a NEET adult
is great
hehehhehehe
but not for everyone... NEETism... only for strong-willed...
some people.. go crazy.. without job..
north torrent
Only for those with rich parents.
The biggest mistake a person can make in life is being born to poor parents.
pearl elk
Im just thankful I was born in the lucky country
pearl elk
meism is the best ism
north torrent
I prefer beef.
zinc matrix
LOL, I just looked at Eric Roberts IMDB. That's a long list of movies in post-production, filming, completed just for 2020. Lockdown didn't stopped him ๐
pearl elk
Wouldnt get too excited, most are probably daytime TV movies ๐
But he has been super busy jeez
zinc matrix
i dont like movies
theyre not hyperactive enough
for me
thats why i stopped watching TV when i was 10
too bad your 10 birthday is still two years away...
come on buddy boyo these age jokes get old
you can do better
Now that you mention this, yes I can do better...
you forgot to block the ones in the middle
Why you keep repeating over and over the same text, blocked message? Don't you have anything else to say?
foggy path
you don't have to be a dick about it if you don't enjoy his nonsense :p
it's kind of funny seeing John complain about jokes getting old when he spends a lot of his time posting equally stale things though
...also might be worth behaving less like a 15 year old memelord if you don't like people joking about your age ๐ค
zinc matrix
most of the time I ignore him, but today I'm in a mood...
foggy path
lol
north torrent
The overall disrespect to the art of game design also tends to rub people the wrong way on a Discord made up of only game designers.
foggy path
y u like this unreal... I was editing a particle system which was colored red... and then it just... stopped being red and became black and now it doesn't accept any other color besides black....
dim ruin
You know, I'm no expert but this "grunge map" looks like shit smeared on a wall in a public washroom...
https://www.textures.com/download/grungemaps0102/29147
thorny dock
that made me laugh so hard, it really does, especially because looking under the same grungemaps category theres nothing even close to that
maybe it can be used in the conkers bad fur day unreal hd remake that someone should make
jovial walrus
afternoon everyone
zinc matrix
is it possible to add procedural details of the mountain onto the right ingame image? details like, you know, up and downs, cliffs etc, which you have in real mountains. a real mountain isnt just a flat thing. it has many wrinkles. such an mountain. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/672957375220547585/725675843610869830/unknown.png?width=902&height=334
it uses heightmap for basic shape
but its missing details
north torrent
Foliage billboards I would say.
zinc matrix
nah not the foliage. more the details of the mountain itself
could a algorithm detect that there is a mountain with shitty heightmap info from RL, so it will add procedural details on the mountain/ground
north torrent
How would an algorithm know it was a mountain? How would an algorithm know that the heightmap info is shitty?
Or you could just find a way to add the texture yourself.
zinc matrix
by simpy seeing that its heigher than the rest of the ground?
and heightmap info is bad if it has monochrome colors. everything looks the same
north torrent
I would just go put a different texture on it.
north torrent
Well, automating it is not something I have experience in. Maybe someone else can help.
sage tendon
when an automated solution doesnt give the wanted results, i don't think another automation solution would be a solution
zinc matrix
guys
sage tendon
specific needs require specific actions
sage tendon
look in the mirror for the awnser
north torrent
That is you, Karol.
zinc matrix
huh
north torrent
It is you before you switched user names for some reason.
Just like I used to be Mr. Bacon.
zinc matrix
i didnt change usernames
alpine fern
north torrent
But I never lied about changing my user name.
zinc matrix
yeah some people assume something wrongly, then keep believing it forever
so its not a lie
technically
its mistruth
oh you mean your
ok then
sage tendon
you can add comments to user profiles, which remains the same regardless of changing username
north torrent
I changed my username slowly over time, including both user names in my name for a long period of time before I switched over to the new name. Didn't want people to confuse me for a new person.
I wasn't using this Discord too much back then though, so I doubt people remember my old username before Mฤo.
zinc matrix
yeah i assumed you have OCD or something
sage tendon
what was it before mao?
zinc matrix
cause you kept changing it
north torrent
I used to be Bacon.
sage tendon
and before that?
north torrent
So my usernames would be things like Bacon Icecream ot Team Bacon or Bacon Bacon.
north torrent
Before Bacon I wasn't using discord. Team Bacon was my first Discord name.
north torrent
I'm not that buff.
zinc matrix
didnt eat enough bats
sage tendon
omg, current 'room temperature' chocolate is melted chocolate, i dont like it below avarage room temperature -.-
zinc matrix
oh
north torrent
Get a fridge that is just slightly above room temperature just for your chocolate.
north torrent
Doesn't seem economical, but it would be awesome.
sage tendon
i still have to move my secondary fridge to the attic
main one is on lowest setting so it forms ice crystals in the soda ๐
north torrent
I'm trying to remember what my modding name was before I started Team Bacon...
zinc matrix
is it possible to add procedural details of the mountain onto the right ingame image? details like, you know, up and downs, cliffs etc, which you have in real mountains. a real mountain isnt just a flat thing. it has many wrinkles. such an mountain. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/672957375220547585/725675843610869830/unknown.png?width=902&height=334
north torrent
I honestly can't remember...
sage tendon
no need to spam @zinc matrix
north torrent
I could add details like that in Quadspinner Gaea. Not sure about procedurally adding it though.
zinc matrix
@sage tendon posting it for others to see
sage tendon
you just posted in, not even 20 min ago
north torrent
Do you remember what my modding name was pre-2015, Mr. Ponkkis?
sage tendon
then use google
sage tendon
its the only one you apprarently get
north torrent
Team Bacon was my Fallout 4 mod project... So that was the name I was using when I first used Discord.
north torrent
No, I never used anything bacon related until that project. The bacon thing was because of the story of the mentioned project.
It was about bringing pre-nuclear war pigs back to the post-apocalyptic wasteland after someone snuck some pigs into a vault which eventually lead to generations of pigs living underground.
sage tendon
isnt that duke nukem lore?
north torrent
Maybe.
north torrent
You just proved you are Karol.
zinc matrix
how
sage tendon
basically everything "john" does, is...
north torrent
Yes.
A lot of people are easy to recognize on Discord simply be sentence structure and way of addressing people.
If I changed my name to Boe Jiden and then I addressed you as Mr. Remco, I am pretty sure most people would know that it is in fact me.
north torrent
If someone called me Boe Jiden Kun and I got mad about it, that would make it obvious it was me.
sage tendon
Well ye, but thats because you're the only one. The rest addresses me with Sir or Your Majesty
zinc matrix
what is name?
name is identifying code
so..
if you do something bad
everyone KNOWS
north torrent
If I constantly said thing like, 'did he/she use the ladder to make it up said mountain' then it would be clear that it was me, because nobody else on this Discord talks like that.
zinc matrix
i had a girl on tinder tell me im disgusting after matching with me and having a fun convo - i think she heard some story about me that im not fond of
but i wont tell u what story it was
north torrent
I would recommend that you never use Tinder again, Karol.
sage tendon
thats a solid 5/7 karol thing to say
north torrent
Good choice.
north torrent
I though you finished your prototype...
north torrent
Are you going to actually make a real MMO out of your proof on concept prototype?
zinc matrix
its done
north torrent
Yes, I saw that your proof of concept prototype was done.-
But are you planning on actually turning it into an MMO before you go back to using Tinder?
oblique trellis
tinder is an mmo isnt it ?
north torrent
No, I am saying your proof of concept prototype is done.
zinc matrix
and how is that diffeerent from game?
north torrent
A prototype is a small slice of a game. Like one level showing how the mechanic of the game works with a limited number of players.
An MMO on the other hand has to have many different game elements, locations to visit, and core game loops that come together to keep a large number of players invested in playing the game.
north torrent
Do those locations have things for the player to do?
north torrent
Jumping on a tree is not a core game loop yet.
north torrent
It could be made into a core game loop with enough creativity.
zinc matrix
super sword controls
sage tendon
after i finish mmo..
its done
๐ค
sage tendon
you will never fix your lag issues
tho, i raise you: they are going to be worse
to the point its unplayable
north torrent
But you will have to Google it if you want to know what an MMO is, Karol. I don't really have the time to type it all out for you.
sage tendon
what did you used as framework for your mmo again, @zinc matrix ?
zinc matrix
what framework
sage tendon
how and with what did you make the server core?
sage tendon
already moved to a db solution?
sage tendon
I dont think Mirror is suited for actual MMO games
that explains why the stress test video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9rTSS3rlI has noted broadcasting to each other on a small map
it trusts the client
meh
zinc matrix
I pray for peace but am ready for warrrr
sage tendon
buckle up because you're going to need to separate the server and client as much as possible
zinc matrix
why?
sage tendon
because the client has the server code
zinc matrix
yeah i know
sage tendon
and the clients broadcast to eachother, the server only serves as "here, the other players are these, go to them for network packets"
and the other client are like "meh, only 10 power attack? lets make that 1000000 power attack since the server dont care and I can broadcast this to other players directly"
sage tendon
you know anything about network packets and its design?
zinc matrix
noo
sage tendon
how to validate, process and broadcast legit data to the players?
sage tendon
Are you using any SSL and/or other encryption?
zinc matrix
no
unless unity is doing
something
when you compile to il2cpp
or to webgl
i can get ssl
from cloudflare
for free
like I usually do, but
CF puts your site behind a proxy or something like that
so it may increase pings
sage tendon
So your bacially making a level 1 hack challenge as a MMO?
sage tendon
You only need 1 to kill off a MMO
mossy nexus
Online games are like honey to cheats.
If you can't prevent cheaters, the game will die.
sage tendon
You want to add a microtransaction shop to make money from the MMO, but there is NO server validation what so ever and nothing for encryption, how long do you think it will last before getting a massive law suit? ๐
north torrent
He just wants to skip that part and go straight to the making money part.
tulip orbit
Can I skip the "making a game" part, and straight to the money part too?
tulip orbit
steam summer sale starts today and I need money
sage tendon
You need to study
zinc matrix
yea but first i have to
north torrent
Has anyone in the history of the world ever earned money as a solo dev making an MMO?
sage tendon
@zinc matrix learn what bits and byes are, how sockets work, what a database is and can do, learn some about SSL and encryption like XOR and Blowfish and then restart
There are only shortcuts to disaster, not to succes
north torrent
Or you could make a not MMO.
north torrent
Or unless you have rich parents.
zinc matrix
i dont have rich parents
north torrent
Then being a NEET isn't an option.
zinc matrix
but they havent kicked me from house yet
nah it depends man
i am a cheap NEET for them
so i may get good grades for uni but it may not be enough, at least because universities want to look good here and are handing out good grades for that.
i would need a miracle or even just still go on benefits or something to try and resolve my personal issues soo
pearl elk
new game idea, tinder cross fruit ninja, cut the heads off your potential partners
great stress reliever ๐
north torrent
The only reason I am still alive is a series of about two dozen miracles that some how kept me just lucky enough not to keep on paying the money it costs to live.
zinc matrix
yeah im lucky that my parents support me and my dream
sage tendon
The only reason im alive is that Im not dead yet
north torrent
I probably died 5 years ago, just the message never got to me.
pearl elk
well thats a loser attitude, cmon wheres the ambitions of immortality
sage tendon
Immortality to what extend?
north torrent
Life is fun because it is short, Mr. Olympus.
sage tendon
Highlander immortality? Or like vampires?
north torrent
I don't have extended family, so I don't know what it would be like to have a complicated relationship with them.
I would imagine I would just not talk to them if they were complicated in a bad way.
pearl elk
I know which one Id go for, I like daylight occasionally
north torrent
Maybe I would drive by their homes at night and throw toilet paper rolls on their trees...
pearl elk
chasin fairies for daylight juice is not my idea of a good time ๐
sage tendon
Imagine you cant die and the body could not damage. At some point in time you would be floating between black holes as they swallow the last matter from the Universe, except you
pearl elk
what a way to go aye, now theres ambition
zinc matrix
i get along better with extended family than parents but i have different values to all of them now. i wish to present myself differently too.
north torrent
I guess more family means more people you can borrow money from when you are about to die.
pearl elk
more people you can tag in at family gatherings
north torrent
Do families usually have gatherings?
Honest question, I literally have a 3 person family...
pearl elk
we do but its more like a UFC match than a BBQ
sage tendon
@north torrent my family has an annual gathering in july
north torrent
Is that an invitation?
sage tendon
No, its canceled this year
north torrent
Damn...
sage tendon
Corona and a few deaths ruined it
pearl elk
gotta practice your David Attenborough impersonation
north torrent
It is hard to go to a party when you are dead.
pearl elk
"and heres Remcos family in their natural habitat"
sage tendon
And here we see him spijkerpoepen
sage tendon
What about girls?
pearl elk
its not a party if you dont end up dead ๐
zinc matrix
that would be ultimate succss
north torrent
Success is hard to define, and apparently even harder to spell.
Thought Discord does have a spell check feature...
zinc matrix
i love game design tbh
and development
normally coding is not as interesting
but if ur creating worlds..
itz insaney
sage tendon
If you dont like coding, you wont like making mmo
And what are u using unity for if you dont like code? ๐
north torrent
Because he wants the money.
zinc matrix
i like coding
sage tendon
Isnt buying a lottery ticket a better chance?
zinc matrix
but only coding things i like
north torrent
Probably, but that's not how Karols think.
To a Karol if there is a task that many people have tried and failed at, and not one person has ever done it and successfully made money, then that is the best thing to do to make money.
sage tendon
Makes sense, many die while on a treasure hunt and 1 guy will eventually find it
pearl elk
