that neck
#lounge
median wraith
sage tendon
like phoebe from Friends
pearl elk
lol that would be perfect casting for a trump family comedy
sage tendon
"The Trump (P)Residents"
pearl elk
I watched her keynote at CES I think it was, I was expecting the same 2+2=5 bullshit her dad spouts but she was actually like smart
it was a shock lol
That Tesla crash is kinda odd aye
pearl elk
https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/tesla-smashes-into-truck-in-viral-video-driver-blames-autopilot-2240407
The driver brakes way late
sage tendon
I didnt knew that full auto-pilot was allowed yet?
pearl elk
Its not meant to be full auto-pilot but people keep treating it like it is
If this sort of thing keeps up they might end up banning the systems as being too unsafe
I guess the driver is just lucky the impact was with the top of the truck not the bottom
sage tendon
before they ban it, they should figure out the crash % of Tesla's compaired to human driving
pearl elk
The car doesnt even recognize the pedestrian on the side there too, you can see em attempt to kinda get in the cars way but decide against it
sage tendon
tho, in this age, emotion is more important than facts
pearl elk
so far robots are loosing % wise
humans just have too many hours on the road for the automation to match
they measure it as incidents per kilometer hour
sage tendon
pearl elk
lol how do they know that
sage tendon
Im not sure about the US, but in the Netherlands information like these are public
pearl elk
oh I see this only compares Teslas it doesnt compare all road users like the stats Ive seen
humans are by far less accident prone than all automated cars combined
sage tendon
the guy must be fine btw 😛
pearl elk
We drive so much further so our accident rate is higher but per kilometer hour its way better, automated cars havent been around long yet they have alot of accidents
He is, the article I posted has a quote from the driver
sage tendon
i had to google lakh, lol
pearl elk
Im not convinced we'll see a day where accident rates are improved solely with autopilot
I bet fixing potholes will do so much more
sage tendon
I think it will improve a lot once we steer away from self-driving roads
pearl elk
but thats technically not a road its a train track 😛
sage tendon
no, i mean, same kind of road, just without cars that doesnt have autopilot
pearl elk
having cars communicate is problematic IMO
pearl elk
lol
have a think about what you could do if you wernt a law abiding citizen
kidnapping rich peoples kids would be breezy
sage tendon
thats already very easy
pearl elk
yeah but its not upload a virus and boop easy
cars communicating with each other is just a bad idea until we can actually make secure software
sage tendon
since the gold standard is gone, it would be easy to wipe out all monetary systems with a virus too, but that doesnt happen either
pearl elk
cars are already easily hackable
sage tendon
but everything is
sage tendon
but the stores where you use the debit card at, are
how many countries are using PIN systems?
or online banking
pearl elk
youre not making your point though
sage tendon
ATM machines are connected as well
Well, its connected
security is only working when people dont mess with it
look how well the skimming went
pearl elk
you cant steal the contents of the shop via computer easily though
sage tendon
no, but you can make the system think there is nothing in the shop at all
pearl elk
if youre pulling out of your driveway and your car connects to mine its so easy for me to use that channel for other data
payments arnt entirely wireless like that
sage tendon
no, but push the first domino stone, and the rest follows
why do you think its absolutely forbidden to announce a bank run? 😄
pearl elk
Youre not wrong just saying it doesnt really prove your point about cars intercommunicating being all good 🙂
sage tendon
my point is: everything thats digital (even analog) is easy hackable
sage tendon
since the invention of the first lock, no locks have been proven to be unhackable
sage tendon
lol
if you're planning to hijack a autopiloted car, its the same to me as cutting someones break wires
doing someone harm is never that hard or complicated if the intention is there
pearl elk
Yeah if youre gonna do something like that you'll probably just do it I just think youre ignoring how easy it'll be when cars are driving around talking to everything else on the road
cutting brake lines requires access to the car
sage tendon
the bottom line in that is, the problem isnt that much for the tech, but for the people with that intention
it is and always be a endless cat and mouse chase
for example, firewalls
since the web came, there is a need for that, and people will always try to find a way
pearl elk
I could blow up an armoured car with a rocket launcher but hacking its automation is far more subtle dont you think?
sage tendon
i would say its more fun 😛
pearl elk
exactly so we want people to keep using rocket launchers to blow up vehicles
rather than the boring automation hack
😄
sage tendon
did you see James Bond movies?
pearl elk
Ive seen a fair few of them
sage tendon
then you should've seen the one where Q gives Bond a nice Austin Martin with a smartphone where he could control the car via his phone right?
be honest, you wanted that too right? 😄
pearl elk
Pierce Brosnan, thats the old Q too
sage tendon
the only Q imho
pearl elk
Thats remote control though not automation
and Im pretty sure MI5 would use encrypted channels
sage tendon
likely blowfish
pearl elk
I doubt they just leave it on normal wifi band for any chump to connect to lol
now connecting to... Bonds Aston Martin
Thats pretty impressive, vipers are heavy as
Im in love with the Koenigsegg Gemera, thats one piece of machine
I even like it more than the new ZL1 Corvette
it has 2 cup holders per person, 1 hot and 1 cold
on the left we have a full symphony and on the right we have a brutalist bunker 😛
that screen above the wheel, thats for the rocket launchers
foggy path
where's all the wood trim
pearl elk
we left that in the 80s
Im just impressed there is a 1700HP car with child seat anchor points
foggy path
About time they catch up with japanese tuners who ran 1000 hp off a GT-R engine in the 90s lol
pearl elk
You say that now but Nissan have a new production car on the way 😉
foggy path
Yeah didn't they tease a new 370Z
pearl elk
Well see the Gemera has only a 3 cylinder 2 litre or somethin but that gives it pretty large pistons compared to a similar litre 4 cylinder
foggy path
That's a quite peculiar configuration yeah
pearl elk
but they have a new crank system which is just leagues over anything, might even put the new Mazda rotary to shame on performance
foggy path
even my car from the mid 2000s has a bigger engine with more cylinders than a Koenigsegg!
pearl elk
big engines still go alright, Jeeps are popular with the Hemis for towing
Theres not much variation in the race engines though they tend to get more homogenized to keep it competitive or whatever the excuse is. Production cars are far more interesting technically to me
that said, this one
pearl elk
four rotar but its not a real car 😦
foggy path
Must have real good fuel consumption figures
I mean I've heard they've managed to improve the rotary issue but I don't think it's still that great
pearl elk
yeah this Mazda and the Gemera would be amazing especially on richer fuels
the main issue with rotary is in racing, they cant accurately match it with a piston engine fairly
foggy path
I guess they'd be okay in GT3 tho since they could probably figure out something with the balance of performance system
pearl elk
they still have the benefit of power to weight, the crank is quite heavy in racing motors
foggy path
yeah so they'd just add a bunch of ballast into it :D
that's usually how it goes in GT3 afaik
that could be why the Bentley does so well there... it's already big and heavy so it's designed to function like that lol
pearl elk
lol well a production Bentley probably looses like 2000kg just on removing the interior trims
lots of carbon fiber though, just make the whole car out of it
Its so silly we never tried to get into other racing with Holdens, I rekon a locally made GT3 woulda gone over really well with car enthusiasts
foggy path
well you got V8 Supercars tho which is pretty cool already lol
zinc matrix
i disconnected laptop and opened it BUT it was too hard to disconnect gpu fan
pearl elk
I guess the issue was itd always go up against something else GM
umm we wont for much longer
V8 Supercars was a production car category now its all make believe like NASCAR
all the cars are the same, its just a different shell on the require chassis
foggy path
really
pearl elk
the mustang we race here is larger by a fair bit to fit the sedan chassis
foggy path
sounds like they ruined that too then
pearl elk
Yeah its looking like a rocky future for the sport
foggy path
I wonder if there's any really regulated drifting series lol
pearl elk
wish they would let the Hellcats in
foggy path
That's pretty much a free for all except I guess nowadays the pros are all running ridiculous hp numbers
unlike in the early 00s when you'd still see a near-stock engine AE86 from time to time lol
pearl elk
Its actually quite difficult to trace the categories and their evolution, if I wasnt into Rally at all Id be lost as to which group is which
foggy path
again? 🤔
pearl elk
who lied, some rando on the internet... and youre surprised?
foggy path
Overcooked was already a freebie at some point
zinc matrix
Yea this makes no sense
gilded vigil
zinc matrix
how do I call epic games
foggy path
I wonder if they messed up
foggy path
lol
quiet narwhal
You could ask for a refund of the free game that you didnt get that they promised you perhaps?
zinc matrix
k brb
gilded vigil
i want my 0 dollars spent refunded
pearl elk
Demand Epic give you a free game every week as compensation
zinc matrix
ive only got like 40 games from them for free
and got like 800 on steam
lol @pearl elk
gilded vigil
and got like 800 on steam
@zinc matrix i got like 15 😶
foggy path
I think I have like 680 or so in total
I installed GOG Galaxy 2.0 and put all my game launchers under it, and that's the number it gave me
:D
A lot of those are stuff I've got for free tho
Probably a fairly small percentage that I've actually bought
Or a bunch of extra stuff that I got from a bundle that I bought for one or two games that I was interested in
pearl elk
Gog galaxy says I have 665 games
zinc matrix
wow
pearl elk
Thats a fair chunk of em too cuz its counting my PS4 titles
oh man SA police do it again
they got an ad about using a car as a weapon, they show a bullet speeding through the air to make the comparison that a car is a 1 tonne weapon except... The bullet still has its casing on it lol
zinc matrix
cope
tough sierra
Really an alien invasion >.< No we'd lose in less than a few hours if that.
Even just traveling at light speed alone, puts a species so technologically ahead that we'd have no hope.
pearl elk
those Hanzo Mains would totally let us down in an alien invasion
tough sierra
Imagine fighting off even nano machines.
All it takes is one small capsule to start it.
Imagine even seeing it coming.
Hell na we'd have -100% chance of survival.
I still like the motif of the movies, even in impossible odds, one shouldn't give up, cause you really never know.
pearl elk
embrace the machine
tough sierra
Might even be considered living depending on the designs.
They remake spawn?
Or whatever that old movie was called.
Oh wait that looks more like a terminator.
tough sierra
Da fuck.
tough sierra
What have they done to the franchise.
pearl elk
lol Jason X is old
tough sierra
Ok then i've not seen them all apparently.
pearl elk
Yeah Ron Weasley looks abit different in that last pic 😛
You saw Freddy vs Jason tho right?
tough sierra
Oh yeah years ago.
I'd say it wasn't horrible.
I've seen some youtube videos going over the AVP comics which turns out was a lot better than the movie.
pearl elk
yeah everyone I know whos read the comics says that same thing
tough sierra
That new predator movie had me disappointed.
Comics in general i find have a lot of gold hidden within them.
And i've not read many.
pearl elk
yeah it was pretty bad, its a shame because they had a cast which was capable of more.
Predators was borderline for me, it worked well. What annoyed me most about The Predator though is they stole the music from the first one and just hacked it together at random moments
tough sierra
I wonder if writers aren't normally willing to accept input from others, i'm not experienced to say, my last experience working with a game dev group that had writers, was pretty unpleasant.
Ouchy.
The plot seemed pretty off to me.
pearl elk
See Predator 2 they had the same music acouple of times, or similar music but they played off the concrete jungle thing in the heat, it had that same sticky feeling of Predator
tough sierra
I need to go back and watch the original. I only know of the lure through the comics and haven't enough memory of the first movie.
pearl elk
Predators tried to capture some of the similarity but I never really got the vibe it was an alien world. They coulda done more with that, like Pitch Black
tough sierra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMXrkYdPP5k
I'm a bit of a nerd core fanatic and this got me looking back into the lore.
I suspect there's multiple perspectives of their culture. Somewhat.
If i find the link to the one youtube video i'll have to link you to it.
The AVP crossover.
It's really gold.
pearl elk
yeah Predators have republicans and democrats 😛
tough sierra
Ahahaha
pearl elk
I did like the end of the first AVP, it was better than the second one
tough sierra
How many people these days are just in the "i'm a human, I care for life" boat instead of focusing too hard on politics and forcing in ideals, I sure as shit don't know how to optimize global happiness, it's why I ask a lot of questions.
Wait they made a second one?
pearl elk
AVP Requiem I think it was
tough sierra
Appreciate that.
pearl elk
as I said though first one is better, its cool to watch for some more alien and predator but its a braindead story line
tough sierra
Aww.
pearl elk
12% on rotten tomatoes lol
tough sierra
Makes me almost think I could write better movies based off stories, but then again, it's easy to assume stuff about things you've never tried.
Oh wow that's pretty low.
Game dev has taught me to relax and realize that shit's probably a lot harder to do right than it looks. I've learned to go easy on creators and managers.
pearl elk
Im just amazed that these things make it to release, its like how did no one tell you
Must be showing the scripts to their mum or somethin 😛
tough sierra
Aw man i sure as shit used to do that for my old game projects 😛
pearl elk
"Thats great!"
tough sierra
Hell bethesda's been called out for doing the same thing to the fallout series.
It's like they missed the real impression the original games had.
But I think they still tried.
It seems to happen a lot with larger companies that pick up works from smaller studios or such.
The C&C series even.
Or how... Ah it's called machinima. How that franchise got bought up and shut down.
During the height of their content and view counts.
Literally went poof over night.
I doubt anything under that contract still exists on the open internet anymore.
There was a plethora of content to.
pearl elk
ahh the old open internet
tough sierra
On that note I shared with you the one video that goes over the subjects of mgs2 right?
Kinda related.
Pointing out the problems of unfiltered content.
Basically points out that a lot of our culture has changed since we have fallen away from using traditional media. Not just that we have access to info much easier now, but that we don't have the same filters, and we have a lot less of them at that.
The ending of that game is praised for supposedly predicting what is our current situation with social media and debates/discussions.
I think they took the idea from another work but.
This one.
pearl elk
I dunno about that my instagram feed is full of filters 😛
tough sierra
If you've never seen this.
Give it a solid think.
It's worth I promise.
You and i are both guilty of the sins described here without a doubt.
pearl elk
oh boy sins... its been awhile since I committed one of those good and proper
is 3 houses over still considered neighbors? His wife was pretty hot tho lol
tough sierra
Lol don't get killed.
pearl elk
I dont remember the clause in the commandments about killing is okay if someone coveted your wife so I think Im all good 🙂
zinc matrix
only I know
tough sierra
Strange, I don't need a premade doctrine to be caring for other life, all I need is the single directive of "respect life".
zinc matrix
the truth of this world
tough sierra
Though i guess that itself is a doctrine.
And it's not out of some sense duty, it's just easier for me personally to get through life being oriented that way.
pearl elk
Maybe humans should also go by Asimov's laws of robotics too
tough sierra
What's that I wonder.
sage tendon
I dont remember the clause in the commandments about killing is okay if someone coveted your wife so I think Im all good 🙂
@pearl elk
As they come from mesopatanian times, "eye for an eye" would apply
tough sierra
As someone who's formerly likely had empathic disorder, one potentially better perspective is global happiness but then again that's hard to measure.
pearl elk
nah its easy to measure... everyone ready?
If youre happy and you know it clap your hands... how many people clapped 😛
tough sierra
Lol
sage tendon
That implies people with no hands cannot be happy
pearl elk
we can 3d print hands for them to clap with
sage tendon
But hand clapping is a distinct sound
tough sierra
I love the way conversations go with ya'll.
pearl elk
how do you know, have you ever heard the sound of a no handed person clap?
sage tendon
Better would b "if your happy and you know it make a short sharp sound"
tough sierra
Farts anyone?
sage tendon
I have, it was the sound of silence
tough sierra
Ah here's a better way to sum up that video. "Memes are currently no longer filtered and lost to time". Thanks to the internet. We have too much garbage data floating around.
There's no selection process.
And by meme i mean a unit of information.
A piece of culture that's passed on.
That means there's more responsibility to the individual now than before.
sage tendon
Ah here's a better way to sum up that video. "Memes are currently no longer filtered and lost to time". Thanks to the internet. We have too much garbage data floating around.
@tough sierra something you dont want to change tho
Anti data discrimintation protection is very important
tough sierra
Of course censorship should be avoided and we shouldn't attempt to manipulate information on a massive scale, ideally not at all.
At least to my mind
But
The video gives a loooooooot of things to think about related to this subject.
We have real consequences to deal with, we have more responsibility than our ancesters, we aren't yet proving worthy of it to my eyes but hopefuly with time things change.
pearl elk
bring back the techno viking
tough sierra
Seriously if you never studied the subject give that video a watch, you'll likely be pretty glad you did.
And a bit horrified.
tulip orbit
My project is 4.22, now with the 4.25.1 out, worth upgrading?
tough sierra
Nothing amazing to my mind besides chaos physics maybe.
pearl elk
isnt Chaos only for custom builds still
tough sierra
If you want to upgrade easier might help to avoid BPs and stick to writing most things in plugins.
I think so yeah.
I couldn't figure out how to use it without doing a custom build.
tulip orbit
Niagara tho? And most of my project is BP
tough sierra
Unless it changed, I always had trouble upgrading projects that used BPs. But that was years ago.
But no harm in giving it a try with a copy of the project right?
tulip orbit
true
was hoping that control rig thing would be more complete, but the docs are already out of date
zinc matrix
keep coping
plucky pagoda
@tulip orbit If you want to start using control rig there's an example project on the market that is already setup with the mannequin. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/control-rig-mannequin
tulip orbit
Oooh, thanks 😄
sage tendon
We have real consequences to deal with, we have more responsibility than our ancesters, we aren't yet proving worthy of it to my eyes but hopefuly with time things change.
@tough sierra
Our responsibility is the same: spawn offspring
tough sierra
I guess that depends on goals and perspective.
If you care about the longevity of a species or even the totality of sentience, I'd assume it's a lot more than that.
Problem solving at the short term compensates for an expanding population.
And that comes from a place of wisdom and questioning.
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix lmao keep coping
see they muted u
on the other discord
where
looking for 3d model of a cute kitten. cant find one on turbosquid
@zinc matrix
@zinc matrix \
there
where
well it was before
tulip nova
yawns
tulip orbit
no! no yawning!
tulip nova
I don't sleep well though!
tulip orbit
me neither, but yawning is contagious and I just had a nap
tulip orbit
I slept pretty good last night, but I was still up early
tulip orbit
man, I was getting good ideas this morning for my game, but had to go out for a few hours, now my brain is dead
elfin zinc
4.25.1 does not support win7
tulip orbit
srsly?
soft night
it support latest Visual Studio
tulip orbit
the docs say it still supports Win7, but we all know how up to date the docs are
fathom wadi
@tulip orbit the control rig needs more work for sure. But you can get moving with it now. Been playing with it and it works. Early days tho
tulip orbit
yeah, a little two awkward for me, not used to sequencer either. But I got Mr.Mannequin working in blender, so I'll continue using that for now
fathom wadi
dunno. why do people still use UDK?
tulip orbit
5 is even less likely to support win 7
stiff crystal
UDK 5 next year 
rare sparrow
Those dang rich people and their access to a free windows 10 upgrade and free UE4 updates
north torrent
I still keep one Windows 7 computer for historical reasons. Someday someone is going to want to see what Zbrush 2 looked like or the UDK or whatever else, and I will have it in my closet archives of computer history.
zinc matrix
keep copeing mao
north torrent
Why do you even speak to me?
zinc matrix
well you wrote first and i replied
Someday someone is going to want to see
you mean friends visit you?
cope
north torrent
If I type anything on Discord it is not directed to you.
tough sierra
~o~
zinc matrix
@north torrent wasnt xp he best ?
north torrent
No.
elfin zinc
UE5 will be for DirectX 12 and Windows 10 only for sure
north torrent
As things should be.
elfin zinc
so, right now last good version of UE is 4.24.3
north torrent
Gotta keep moving forward.
north torrent
I'll stay on Unreal 4 until I finish this current game.
north torrent
But I will hopefully finish it around the time Unreal 5 is released, but who knows.
plucky pagoda
I've been working on a rope swing for almost 3 days now. Tried at least 4 ways of doing it before finding one with promise.
north torrent
Ok, you can send it to me when you are done.
zinc matrix
I will keep using unity
north torrent
It's raining outside, Mr. Slivinski. Should I go to work?
zinc matrix
Ue5 has just more polygons, but my game is low poly
plucky pagoda
I work from home and even I don't feel like going to work.
I tried calling in sick but the boss is an ass.
north torrent
But if I don't go to work, who is going to send the small humans to Mars?
plucky pagoda
I'm too slow on the smart ass comments today. Must be time for coffee
What's your game?
elfin zinc
Kerbal Space Program?
north torrent
This is a project I am making my students do. They are forming 4 corporations and sending half the class to Mars to colonize.
There is the water, food, life support, and housing teams.
This week we are building corporations on Earth and sending unmanned rockets to Mars with whatever supplies the small humans think they need.
plucky pagoda
lol,
north torrent
No?
tough sierra
Pretty creative.
carmine frigate
turn everything off and dot product
tough sierra
Mmm
You mean fake physics?
The heck do I need to implement bullet in this >.<
Having a bunch of stuff close together like that gave me shitty fps easy.
Even if it's just static meshes.
Even more than a few hundred.
This is going into the thousands.
Which holy fuck I wasn't expecting that.
Though, i've not really tested on this new processor yet.
carmine frigate
niagara can do a lot of simple collisions, but those barrels aint bullet accurate
plucky pagoda
ugh, Photoshop has been locked for like 10 minutes just from selecting export visible layers as PNG. I must have done somthing wrong no way it should be taking this long.
Took over a week for Unity to respond but they actually refunded a purchase and fixed a screw up. I'm a little shocked. Did not expect them to make it right the way things have gone dealing with them the past two years.
tough sierra
This is a semi decent 8 core cpu by the way.
Though i'm not seeing much improvement from the quad core I had before, this cpu does have better single thread performance though.
That's not exactly a ton of cubes.
plucky pagoda
You're running it in PIE.
tough sierra
I thought niagara wasn't physics related.
Should that really matter much though?
This doesn't even look to be a thousand boxes.
plucky pagoda
Yes. A lot.
plucky pagoda
Samething. Run it in standalone at the least.
tough sierra
Alright.
Weird it's not creating it's own window.
The results are the same though.
I didn't disable rendering yet to check if it's draw calls.
I should mention each of those are actors, but their tick is for sure disabled.
Oh wait
plucky pagoda
...
tough sierra
I accidently selected simulate.
Sorry am a bit blind >.<
Huh not ideal but for sure better. I need to figure out how to set it to show fps for a sec.
Ah it's stat da
lyric widget
Anyone run a Threadripper with 128GB or more?
tough sierra
Actually no difference. There's no way this hasn't bothered the rest of ya. I've always had issues dealing with lots of dynamic physics bodies. Though this project is BP, but that really shouldn't make much difference if any at all. Assuming this is indeed a physics issue.
lyric widget
Was wondering what motherboard / RAM was used
tough sierra
Holy shit it does seem to be the draw calls.
200+ fps out of the gate with the rendering disabled on the cubes.
That's not a gpu issue that's for sure a draw call issue.
plucky pagoda
I mean you've obviously not optimized the physics setup in anyway so I don't see how you can say it's an accurate example of the physics capabilities of the engine. There's all kinds of things that have to be optimized in one way or another even if it's just tweaking a few settings.
tough sierra
I couldn't exactly see how many cubes were actually simulated need to re run this and verify. There's not a whole lot you can do to optimize dynamic bodies though pretty sure. Even messing with the tick rate isn't exactly an ideal solution. Though hell I could be wrong.
plucky pagoda
I resisted. It hurt a bit.
stiff crystal
there's a ton of things you can do to make stuff like that faster
tough sierra
615 bodies so far puts it at 90 FPS from previous 300 or 200 ish starting out. I should re learn how to get the exact ms timings. Ideally i'd like a few thousand boxes to be simulatable.
That alone, would be good enough.
But I mean fully dynamic bodies, as in ideally constantly moving and colliding.
stiff crystal
I'll also politely note that fps is not a proper way to measure physics perf
plucky pagoda
Start with sub stepping. You can also do things like scale the forces by a factor of ten to reduce the math.
tough sierra
Ah sub stepping that's what it's called.
plucky pagoda
Physics is painful even when you're use to working with it.
tough sierra
Unless i'm mistaken that would increase jitter if the pressure is too high. I'm usually targeting 60 FPS but not any higher at least.
Number on the left is the number of invisable physics bodies.
stiff crystal
substeps don't make any diff at high fps
also they will only make it slower when it adds more substeps :p
plucky pagoda
It's more about tweaking how often the simulation is updated.
tough sierra
Kind of an alien concept but I always designed my physics engines to tick rather than step, as in do a full simulation per frame. To make them a lot simpler.
stiff crystal
enabling substeps makes it run 1+ physics steps per tick
plucky pagoda
I don't think that's true. You can set a min delta time for physics simulations
tough sierra
This does show me though that physics will be more a secondary problem, I still have to solve the draw call issue first.
Ah what i read about all that.
It depends on your current frame rate.
alpine fern
what hardware is this running on
stiff crystal
@plucky pagoda you can read the pinned message at #legacy-physics which explains how these steps work
tough sierra
Despite this being one hell of an upgrade, the draw call issue is identical to the old shitty quad core cpu I had.
I suppose for obvious reasons.
tough sierra
Then the auto instancing isn't ideal.
Unless there's something else special about rendering them.
alpine fern
of course not, but it should be better than this
stiff crystal
anyway, if you really want to have less physics steps, you'd need to have somethings like.. .fixed timestepped physics updates, which would requie a custom engine
tough sierra
THis ain't the first time i had issues with the auto instancing thing not ever working, with multiple versions of UE4
stiff crystal
I have branches on my ue4 fork that implement this
but without that, you can't make ue4 simulate physics at slower rate than your graphics update
alpine fern
I made a similar test recently, just a pile of 1000 cubes to see what happens
perfectly fine at 120 fps
tough sierra
Honestly i've wanted to use a custom physics engine and even fully break out of the UObject thing but it's too much a pain in the ass to dev with, other people don't like that either.
stiff crystal
which would be 120Hz physics in that case
tough sierra
Are they dynamic?
alpine fern
obviously
stiff crystal
well, it's not obvious to all
alpine fern
it would be pointless to test physics performance with everything sleeping
stiff crystal
it's important to realize that ue4 does it like that when you compare it to say, unity which updates physics at 50Hz by default
tough sierra
Unless the code for the auto instancing is somehow specific to the gpu, i can't think of what it'd be.
alpine fern
running the same test with chaos takes the fps down to 10 though
completely beyond me how they can call that production ready
tough sierra
Maybe there's a ton of settings to tweak.
Also thanks for that note about unity's default rate.
alpine fern
pretty sure the 4.25 release notes called it that
tough sierra
Am i really the only one getting issues with draw calls?
I've had to solve for this in the past even with non dynamic static meshes.
By using hisms as a backend.
Seriously can't go above a couple hundred meshes without there being issues.
The foliage tool works though.
Oh
I may have forgot to mention all these cubes are AActors.
tough sierra
It's not just you who's told me this either.
Which is making me lose my mind a bit.
alpine fern
there is an issue with occlusion queries related to many meshes
if you go over say, 1000 things on screen, turn on r.hzbocclusion 1
tough sierra
Disables occlusion processing?
This cpu might have 8 cores but it's behind single thread performance by today's standards a bit.
alpine fern
uses a different method that has a small constant overhead but is far more efficient at handling many queries
plucky pagoda
@stiff crystal The pinned message doesn't address AnimPhysicsMinDeltaTime. Perhaps I misunderstand what that variable is used for.
tough sierra
Is it set r.hzbocclusion 1 ?
tough sierra
That didn't change anything honestly.
alpine fern
well you turned off rendering of the cubes
tough sierra
I need to remember how to use the tools, in the past it for sure wasn't showing issues with the gpu as far as the ms timings go.
But that was with non dynamic bodies.
Alright then
alpine fern
not in packaged
tough sierra
I didn't actually package the game to be honest. Am running in standalone mode though.
alpine fern
btw physics processing would count under the "game" time there so you have no cpu bottleneck
tough sierra
But that might explain stuff.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I misunderstood what it does I think.
tough sierra
At only a couple hundred bodies correct ^-^
stiff crystal
@plucky pagoda animations can use separate physics solver
it's based on physx immediate mode
tough sierra
So i just type in console "profilegpu" ?
alpine fern
yes
stiff crystal
it's not coupled with regular physics sim
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I'm looking at the code now. I didn't read it close enough,
tough sierra
Correct.
Same issue in older versions as well. I even did this profile step come to think of it.
tough sierra
On a related note.
alpine fern
and launch the dev build with -statnamedevents -trace=frame,bookmark,cpu -tracehost=127.0.0.1
it will reveal what is wasting the time here
tough sierra
I noticed looking away from the objects noticeably made the fps jump, though even that gradually declined as objects were added.
plucky pagoda
That's one of the problems with being a generalist, things get muddled.
alpine fern
does this scene have a stationary directional light?
tough sierra
Alrighty packaging it.
I believe it does actually.
Since it's the default scene.
O . O
alpine fern
make sure "inset shadows for dynamic objects" (or similar) is disabled or change it to movable
this option causes huge overhead on the rhi thread
alpine fern
just thought of this
tough sierra
Stationary lights bake some kind of data even for moveable objects in an attempt to optimize.
alpine fern
no, but they default to world's biggest brain shadow rendering method that creates an atlas of individual shadow maps for every affected dynamic object
tough sierra
That basically yeah.
Which i noticed is really awesome for crappy gpu's.
That can't normally handle dynamic lights well.
alpine fern
oh they can handle lights just not unreals extremely slow ones
tough sierra
Am letting the shaders compile and am packaging the project before changing that hopefully that won't take much longer >.<
alpine fern
well just cancel that and check this option first
alpine fern
we can still use insights if that wasn't the issue
tough sierra
Holy
Friggin moly
That actually seems to be the reason.
I'm rather shocked.
I just switched from stationary to dynamic for the directional light.
So then, i wonder why hisms combat this issue a lot better.
alpine fern
because that's one primitive which means it will do a single per object shadow
tough sierra
I'm not far into graphics programming as of yet, you think that means increased draw calls but on the side of dealing with shadows in some way?
alpine fern
?
alpine fern
if you want to use a stationary light disable the inset shadows option
tough sierra
But ok that does explain a crap ton, am curious how it works with say a few thousand static meshes which are set to static.
alpine fern
if they're static then it should work fine
tough sierra
Hmmmm.
alpine fern
if they're movable (even if not moving) goodbye performance
tough sierra
I remember doing 4k grass AActors, I thought I set their collision to not simulate, wait yeah i mean non simualting collision not that they are actually static and bake in shadows.
Since they had to be animated and all that.
But this is a hell of a start ^-^
I'm curious how you found out about that.
alpine fern
my game was running like garbage on a map with a stationary light
yet the same build ran significantly better with a movable one
so the investigating started
tough sierra
So basically by accident.
I guess people don't like using stationary lights generally fearing them for some reason.
alpine fern
stationary lights are useful for combining a static environment with dynamic stuff built by players
tough sierra
That seems very true ^-^
I personally found them pretty awesome on integrated gpus.
clever thunder
Hello
plucky pagoda
I ended up going no precomputed lighting on my current project. I don't know why but it just runs faster and lighting is much easier now. I tried to find a good setup with some baked lights and it just wasn't fast enough.
alpine fern
that's nice when it is an option
tough sierra
Precomputed?
plucky pagoda
I didn't think it would be. I tweaked the lighting a lot though.
full dynamic. It's an option in world settings
Definitely a lot easier.
tough sierra
Now if only I can get 4k moving bodies at even just 30 FPS that'd be good enough for a basic small scale singleplayer rts.
alpine fern
I hope the lumen thing in ue5 actually works at sensible performance
tough sierra
Yeah been wondering about that to.
I'm not sure if any of us know if it's ray traced or not >.>
alpine fern
I'm expecting to be able to put walls and have a house with dark interior on a bright sunlit map just like that
if lumen can't do that it sucks
it's not real dynamic gi then
tough sierra
@alpine fern Seriously thank you, i've been stalled for years because of that issue and not actually asking anyone to help me fully walk through it.
stiff crystal
lumen is not dxr/rtx
alpine fern
lumen is supposed to be better than rtx gi
tough sierra
So it is a type of ray tracing?
stiff crystal
it's a mix of existing techs
tough sierra
I've not yet figured out how gi works.
alpine fern
no one knows exactly how lumen works yet
stiff crystal
well, we know what it does use
alpine fern
because they won't tell 
tough sierra
Honestly they probably want to avoid competition 😛
stiff crystal
To achieve fully dynamic real-time GI, Lumen has a specific hierarchy. "Lumen uses a combination of different techniques to efficiently trace rays," continues Wright. "Screen-space traces handle tiny details, mesh signed distance field traces handle medium-scale light transfer and voxel traces handle large scale light transfer."```After watching the conference vid about ps5, i see why they pushed for their rendering to be like that. (as far as the vertices thing goes)
stiff crystal
I totally expect that tech to not be perfect fit for all projects
like, all techs have their weaknesses
and this combines 3 different GI techs
at least I expect to see a lot of artifacts
stiff crystal
voxels can mean like... svogi
DFGI was a thing before too but got canned
and SSGI already exists in unreal
SVOGI existed on UE4 before it's launch
alpine fern
ssgi is very slow
tough sierra
He mentioned something about cubed geometry instead of triangles being in theory a lot more performant to render if hardware was designed around it.
alpine fern
hopefully it was significantly optimized if it's involved in lumen
it's strange how gpus are designed for triangles even though most people try to make their models with quads
tough sierra
I need to find the article you all might find it interesting being more into gfx programming.
This is old.
Found it.
Reading this a week ago kind of inspired me to try learning how to make my own graphics engine.
Maybe there's still possibility spaces to explore.
tough sierra
I'ma try a simple game concept and actually release the damn thing this time >.<
Space invaders but a 3D clone.
With a different camera angle.
foggy path
I think something that could be interesting is voxels
If you had a voxel optimized GPU especially
rugged storm
solid aurora
I expect lumen to have fewer issues
because of the fact that single representation of scene is not sheveled onto everything
by that I mean it will work with frotnite with mix of open spaces and closed buildings (;
fluid bloom
another day another shitshow in USA
their problems with the police seems to stem purely from a lack of training for them. Don't counties over there have 100% control over the hiring and training practises for police?
lucid walrus
USA's problem with their police is the same as their problem with politics... lack of education
(Because their many huge corporations, which owns most of the country, wants it that way.)
fluid bloom
well, yes that's what I meant. Don't know why I said training 😄
lucid walrus
no worries... I just wanted to say corporations are the root of all evil anyway 😄
fluid bloom
I doubt that's it in this case
in Finland to become a police you have to study for three years
it's a full blown bachelor's degree
lucid walrus
yes, but in Finland you don't have a military industrial complex that lobbies your politicians to buy unnecessary military gear to outfit as many police with as possible, and hence don't want any delays with education for that gear
that's why I said corporations are the root cause
foggy path
yeah the US situation is stupidly complicated, probably much of it is caused by past mistakes and stuff
it's been like this for a long time, even since the 60s
this is also kind of why I somehow don't trust anything is going to change even this time around
americans are notoriously good at making a lot of noise for a while and then forgetting about it :p
that above comment probably sounds kind of negative about americans in general, don't read too much into it, it's probably the same everywhere tbh :D
foggy path
You know one of the more bizarre things relating to these events that I saw was that apparently someone had just conveniently placed a big stack of bricks along the path one of the protests :D
like "here, start breaking shit"
north torrent
They do that all the time, Mr. Zomg.
The burning cars were old police cars ready for the dump, so the police dragged them out there and set fire to them.
The best way to defeat a protest is to frame it as violent and get the moderate people to be against the violence.
zinc matrix
conspiraacy much
poor trump..
i hope he will be well...
the comments aare ridiculous XD
foggy path
While everyone else is doing triple A graphics with unreal, I'm here pushing the boundaries on what you can do with sprites lol https://streamable.com/og3mqs
it uses a pixel perfect hit detection system to detect which limb you're hitting based on a texture mask... it's still a bit iffy but mostly works lol
north torrent
Can't say I've ever used sprites.
mossy nexus
I've used 7-Ups
foggy path
tbh this hit detection system feels insanely kludgey but I have no idea how to do it in a way that wouldn't make it insanely complicated to set up the sprites :p
it basically uses a scene capture and re-renders the sprite using a mask texture that is then used for the hit detection based on what color the mask is at the hit point from the render target...
north torrent
Life is insanely complicated.
foggy path
I wonder if I could get an Actual Unreal Expert ™️ to suggest a better solution for like 10 bucks or something lol
zinc matrix
foggy path
this is just a silly project so not exactly budgeted massive amounts of money for this lol
north torrent
If I knew anything about sprites I would tell you.
Looks like Velcro took my advice.
foggy path
I think it's more of a question about shaders and rendering 🤔
it's technically similar to using a stencil buffer I guess, because with the custom stencil pass you can write a color into the stencil buffer during the normal rendering pass
but it's limited in a way that you can't choose which parts of the mesh render what color into the stencil, you just choose the color for the whole actor
if I had a way to draw any color I want into the stencil from my shader for example, then I could draw the hit areas into the stencil buffer, and perhaps there's some way of reading that information
but I don't really know that much about how that stuff works, that's just my best guess about a more "optimal" way of doing it
because this is how the sprites have their hitboxes defined, they basically just have a colored mask for each individual sprite
zinc matrix
@north torrent others say im dumb for doing that
zinc matrix
"you will get the rtx 3000 series if you pre-order" they say
north torrent
Game designers should be game designing now, not waiting till the next series of graphics card or then next version of Unreal is released.
foggy path
I wonder how many sprites will UE5 be able to support
I demand Nvidia adds hardware sprite scaling units on their next gen hardware
also blast processing
north torrent
Will Unreal 5 have sprite tools?
zinc matrix
u could easily make game with ue5 where you just walk around in a photorealistic pink forest.
would sell like hot dogs
north torrent
You could do that right now in Unreal 4.
zinc matrix
Here actual reviews on the game https://i.imgur.com/OBQQaY8.png
dont you think ue5 will require less gpu power for a lot of foliage?
north torrent
That would just be speculation. No way to really know at this point.
zinc matrix
why again is foliage so gpu taxing?
north torrent
But you could make it today, so why not? If you put it off until next year you will put it off once you get to next year.
Shaders.
zinc matrix
transparency only?
north torrent
Complex shader plus millions of planes.
zinc matrix
millions of planes should not be taxing
north torrent
It is when they all have a complex shader.
If it was a simple shader then it wouldn't be a big deal.
zinc matrix
this should be a very simple shader, very small textures https://i.imgur.com/rYQBFyF.jpg
^ this is like a mid-complex shader?
bottom 30fps, top 50fps
fathom wadi
my Twitter just over a week ago. "Don't go out you maniacs!"
my Twitter now. "Shut up white boy your opinion doesn't matter, you are the problem".
Also my Twitter now. closes browser tab
north torrent
Mr. Hevedy is far more of a technical artist than I, so he can explain it all to you.
I am not looking forward to the giant corona-virus spike that will be happening in about 4-10 days, Mr. Rogerson...
fathom wadi
Those Kite scenes have some serious complexity in the landscape materials. I mean, look how gorgeous they are in respect to detail and variance
median wraith
@zinc matrix taxing part are the masks, and transparencies if have it, and yeah the triangles arent for free
anyway you can always debug by yourself editing things
the 2 sided shader using SSSS have a cost too
oh and the shader to make them wave, and all these elements to simulate these you know the plants are living entities that you eat without kill them previously
north torrent
Have you seen the bread available on Megascans, Mr. Hevedy?
median wraith
noupe
there was a pack of food but
didn't checked it in deep
not sure if was from Megascan
north torrent
You just ate it without looking?
fathom wadi
they should make food assets have a "use by" date. Then you have to use fresh assets otherwise the food standards agency will get you
fathom wadi
stale bread. Can't use that in my project
median wraith
I don't like that kind of bread tbh
fathom wadi
it doesn't like you either. You should hear the things it said about you
median wraith
XD
fathom wadi
whoever put sesame seeds on buns should be tarred and feathered. See how they like it.
picks tooth
zinc matrix
@median wraith if that is expensive, but doesnt look really photorealistic, how expensive are photorealistic foliages then? oO
median wraith
Nice an axe
fathom wadi
stylistic can cost more than photorealism
zinc matrix
@north torrent and lets not think about the covid spike in 30 days 😉 and in 120 days 😉 even highe rthan now.
north torrent
Doubt it. The next two weeks will probably be the peak.
alpine fern
the axe is used to cut the bread obviously
north torrent
Yes.
fathom wadi
I keep my bread axe sharp
zinc matrix
@median wraith moving plants ain't moving cause they are as much alive as animals. 😉
zinc matrix
there is huge diference in the life aspect of plants and animals. don't make jokes about veganism regarding that
north torrent
Use the axe, Mr. Hevedy.
zinc matrix
where is the god damn dhl sprinter
3.5t truck
i want the 2070s in my hands
while i eat dark chocolate spread
this is the truck where suprises awaits u
fathom wadi
To be fair @zinc matrix you came around here insulting everyone so if you can't take a joke....
zinc matrix
at al americans. this is the suprise truck. it has suprises for ya
north torrent
If you eat chocolate spread with an RTX 2070 in your hands you will likely get chocolate on your gpu.
zinc matrix
^ good if, then logic
north torrent
I recommend putting the RTX 2070 in your computer.
zinc matrix
@fathom wadi i don't remember you in the vegan fights
fathom wadi
thats because I wasn't fighting
fathom wadi
no I was interacting. I just wasn't being offensive about it
zinc matrix
"offensive" lol
north torrent
So, Mr. Rogerson, what are you going to do when your favorite website Twitter is shut down?
fathom wadi
well yeah you were being offensive at the time, so I pointed it out
@north torrent take the credit
north torrent
Sounds like a plan.
fathom wadi
I haven't been able to use twitter since George Floyd tbh. My timeline went from "hey look great unreal engine work and other amazing dev stuff" to "white ppl be like..... <insert insulting racial division statement here>" and I have two options. Get into the argument with people, or let them be angry and insult white people in the name of racial diversity. Seems ass backward to me but there you go.
north torrent
If you are a straight, white, male then there is no place on social media for you. Might as well just go right back to working on or playing games.
north torrent
You can't demand anything.
fathom wadi
@north torrent I've no problem with leaving social media tbh. It still bugs me that I get treated that way. Especially when I am told to shut up and that my opinion means nothing because im white.
im only white on the outside ffs.
north torrent
On social media everything you have ever done good at or earned during your life is because of your straight, white, maleness.
If you don't bow down and confess that everything you have worked for in your life isn't 100% just you getting white privilege handouts, then you might as well be wearing a Nazi armband.
foggy path
Y'all follow the wrong accounts if your timelines are full of that garbage :P
fathom wadi
I have fuck all and im white and worked hard for the past 20 years. Could use some of that privilege about now.
@foggy path I only follow game devs usually. The occassional movie star
foggy path
I just started unfollowing people who tweet that stuff and hey look twitter is suddenly tolerable
fathom wadi
I have the word "Trump" in my banned list, but he still gets through
foggy path
time to start unfollowing people who talk about that in such a tone then :D
although there is definitely a significant amount of that stuff going on right now even from the accounts that I didn't unfollow, but most of them are sensible people and don't talk out of their arses
north torrent
But some rich white guy got out of prison after raping a girl, so that means that you, also being a white guy must be benefiting from that privilege.
Makes sense, doesn't it?
foggy path
Frankly they're not entirely wrong about it imo but it's not really something you can do anything about so there's no reason for you to take those kinds of comments personally
fathom wadi
My wife has a similar thing with people telling her she should teach her sons NOT to rape. And my wife is like "wtf?"
social media tho. full of crazy people
foggy path
Do you know what they mean with "teach to not rape" though?
fathom wadi
yeah. they didn't think out the argument well enough
foggy path
I mean it doesn't literally mean to teach them "rape is bad mkay"
alpine fern
the whole business model of social media is to spread the crazy viewpoints as far as possible because it will generate the most interactions
north torrent
It is a problem with the platform itself.
foggy path
the "teach not to rape" is a very valid point, but the phrase is just really... cringy, painful and misleading on the surface
so it gets insanely knee jerk reactions as a result
north torrent
We need to not let useless idiots like Mark Zuckerburg run something that so many people are using.
fathom wadi
I just want Twitter for game dev really. Maybe we need our own social media. Called "NoRoyaltiesPlox"
foggy path
honestly just unfollow people who RT that stuff, you'd be surprised how much better it is :D
north torrent
For profit social media sites should be illegal.
fathom wadi
Facebook is actually a lot calmer recently. Twitter is just 100 miles an hour crazy tho
foggy path
part of the problem is that twitter is only good enough for really short comments so people can't really explain the deeper meaning behind something
fathom wadi
yep
north torrent
I just don't know the name of the idiot in charge of Twitter. But he should be forcibly removed from his company.
He can take his money and leave. If he doesn't comply we can throw him in a jail cell.
fathom wadi
Jack Dorsey is his name. The guy creeps me out
alpine fern
who do you want to run it if not a private company? trump?
foggy path
the other problem is that if you try to engage in a discussion, you generally won't get good results if you ask questions because there are so many trolls
and they often play the "I don't understand" card
north torrent
A non-profit organization.
foggy path
so legit people who want to understand it better get grouped with the trolls very easily
fathom wadi
@foggy path this is why I keep it for gamedev only. You dont need 128chars, or whatever, to type LMGTFY :p
foggy path
lol yep
north torrent
What you just described, Mr. Zomg, is a platform that is flawed beyond repair...
fathom wadi
hah jokes on them.... I dont use a mobile phone
feral imp
ya, I got that email and figured I'd post it lol. I just find it funny that after failing in their social platform google+ they've basically just rebranded it and made it a paid clone of discord/slack
fathom wadi
They should have just bought out another social media system tbh. I want google to have a good setup as we are all integrated with google logic now.
feral imp
I mostly use my own services now, however I do like their domain management platform. I can propagate dns changes every 60seconds as opposed to 72hours
median wraith
@fathom wadi why you told that to the guy at Facebook ? Next time tell he have to buy windows
fathom wadi
@median wraith which one?
median wraith
the one that cannot compile
fathom wadi
I didn't notice he was on linux. But then there is no reason he can't compile on linux. Unless you mean he has win7?
median wraith
"Unreal engine 4.25 "Very" High quality movie render (Denoise) in 4 hours 4K resolution"
what the hell
@fathom wadi is on windows but have windows without license
fathom wadi
dont most people?
north torrent
Who is going to play Total War Troy?
fathom wadi
Not me.
I used to enjoy total war games buy they turned into something so over-complicated, it feels like you need to read an book to get a heads up on how to use one thing.
and the manual isnt in game. so you alt tab all the freaking time
north torrent
Easier just to hit buttons and get it wrong.
median wraith
I have to duplicated the source files of my lib for C# projects cause don't allow to include files without import it, who designed this ?
zinc matrix
anyone know if openpose is excellent good lip sync?
@north torrent Probably because a lot of straight men online and in the world have repressive views and some white men are still racist
The demographic is more likely to be taken seriously than others
north torrent
And the ones that are not racist and want to support a cause like Black Lives Matter are ridiculed and pushed out of the cause.
Turning away allies is not a good way to run a movement.
The Bernie Sander's supporters learned that one the hard way. Bernie himself deserved better than the way his supporters acted.
zinc matrix
there's a motto going around where white silence is compliance. These white people may have gotten something wrong but I read on a chat outside of discord that sometimes it's only white men whose struggles get written about
north torrent
I don't think that is true in any way, shape, or form.
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix thats no excuse to dismiss a white person's opinion tho right?
I mean I have worked towards changing the minds of racists for the past 25 years or so, but my opinion doesn't matter because someone else is racist. Makes sense.
zinc matrix
I think people are fucking pissed that white men just have power and that non-white people have no power
fathom wadi
I think its silly to presume only white men have power
zinc matrix
Men who hold repressive views hold power
fathom wadi
In the world of global corporate menageries, colour doesn't matter. Religion doesn't matter. Only the forwarding of the new world order matters. They don't care if you are purple tbh. The world is a business.
north torrent
There is nothing someone can say about me and my race or gender that is going to offend me.
But if people are going to gatekeep and tell me I can't be part of their cause unless I bow down, call myself a piece of shit, and admit that everything I have earned in my life is because of white privilege then I will just stay silent.
I will stick to punching Nazis and anti-tRump rhetoric on my own and not be part of your group.
fathom wadi
I completely agree with that
Im not wasting all my own efforts on stupid people who are as discriminatory as those they oppose
It's equality or bust for me.
zinc matrix
I'm personally more worried about religious fundamentalists and companies getting all the power myself
north torrent
Divide and conquer has always been an effective strategy to keep the poor and working class in check.
I won't do it. I won't be part of it. I won't be supporting any group that wants to start comparing who has it worse like it is some sort of competition.
Well I didn't have a dad growing up... Well my parents were so poor that blah blah blah... Well somebody did blah blah blah to me... Well I didn't get this job because blah blah blah...
Fighting for justice isn't a coemption for who had it worse.
zinc matrix
keep copeing
As someone who is not white and for whom race is a secondary concern compared to gender and religion, you might not get much from me if you wish to debate me. I can at most make inferences based on what I've read from others.
fathom wadi
at least you are allowed an opinion
I get shot whenever I put an opinion up that isn't about straight white male stuff. Like recent with the racial issues. Cant say my piece because im white. I defend trans rights and try talk people around, but im not allowed to do that because im not trans. It gets tiresome trying to fight for those who do not appreciate the effort.
zinc matrix
@rigid shoal try waiting a little bit maybe?
fathom wadi
@rigid shoal often windows updates break stuff. Not had it so bad for a while (one update did what you said) but I keep backups and ghost images so im all good
rigid shoal
I just had to restart it again. Weird.
north torrent
I'm still frustrated with how it is 2020 and Windows still can't do Bluetooth right.
zinc matrix
am on ayymd, so 🤷
fathom wadi
thats because nobody needs bluetooth anymore
north torrent
I do.
rigid shoal
Everything Apple is going Bluetooth. No more wires for anything.
fathom wadi
Hi Random Recruiter Guy,
I'm sorry your reading capability doesn't go as far as to read the words "Unreal Engine Developer" on my C.V. but good luck finding someone for your Unity project. Perhaps try the slackers discord for UE4.
Yours sincerely, Not a Unity dev.
zinc matrix
so do I but Ubuntu in my recent experience is worse with Bluetooth. Must be proprietary firmware though
fathom wadi
@north torrent bluetooth is wifi for old hat hardware :p
north torrent
Error Code NSES-404 @fluid bloom
fluid bloom
shame
north torrent
I could probably switch to a Finland vpn.
Not sure how common those are...
Never seen wifi headphones and a wifi mouse, Mr. Rogerson.
zinc matrix
God I wish I could use a wireless gaming mouse but I have no income and potentially more important shit to worry about and use my money on in the future
fathom wadi
@north torrent you have never seen wifi keyboard/mouse?
north torrent
Never.
zinc matrix
I have a small table so the cable gets dislodged to the right edge frequently
fathom wadi
I keep my cable propped up under a CD case. But it's a flexible cable, made with fibre rather than a plastic covering. So it moves well.
its the Roccat Kone EMP mouse if you care to check. Got it for a larger gaming hand
zinc matrix
I'd rather not bend my cables too much in case they break
north torrent
I just don't want cables.
zinc matrix
Also the gaming mouse I have is suffering from double click syndrome at times now too (may be the game but I can't be too sure)
fathom wadi
I would use wireless mouse/kb if it got it's power from the air, Tesla style.
zinc matrix
Ideally I'd ditch cables too even for my keyboards but I need to stop buying shit for a while until I get a source of income.
north torrent
With a desk that has a keyboard tray, I don't mind the cable. I use a wired keyboard at the moment.
With my old desk when I would move the keyboard when I wanted to draw, having a wired keyboard was a pain.
pearl elk
Man I would totally love to have what Kayne West, Drake, Dre, Ice Cube, LL Cool J, Ice T etc has
fathom wadi
I have a mouse tray on my desk. So I can sit a nice armchair in front of it and get a perfect mouse position
pearl elk
is there a white privilege number I can call to rectify this situa tion?
fathom wadi
you could say that 911 is the white privilege number considering you have a chance to survive the call if you are white.
zinc matrix
I don't exactly praise celebrities because they benefit from restrictive copyright law
pearl elk
lol I could call 911 but I dont think the US police travel over water 😛
pearl elk
its 000 here
zinc matrix
or 999 if you're here in the UK?
fathom wadi
000 makes more sense for when you stub your toe and need to tell someone
pearl elk
I survived a 2hr drive without being pulled over though, pretty sure they caught other white guys tho 😛
north torrent
Copyright and Patent laws all need to be reworked in the digital age.
zinc matrix
I sometimes hate how the UK just wants to do shit differently from everyone else
fathom wadi
I say tag everything digital with irrefutable, irremovable, watermarks. It's the only way
@zinc matrix I hate how the UK is a corporation and even when the majority of the people dont want the current government, they fiddle their way back in
zinc matrix
Became a naturalized citizen here with my family and I'd say it's better than the Philippines in at least a few key respect - more socially liberal and better quality of life.
Otherwise I want to move to Canada. Initially the US but I hate US politics. I also hate how the UK wants to be like the US too sometimes
pearl elk
I also learnt something new yesterday, the X in Faux is silent 🤯
north torrent
I am looking to get a second passport for when the US implodes.
fathom wadi
I dont have a problem with how I live my life here. It's way better quality than most of the world. I just hate the obvious political scammers, the corporate decisions, the lack of democracy and the whole fucking shitshow tbh. 😉
north torrent
First time you ever used the word, Mr. Olympus?
zinc matrix
Canada mostly for geographic and personal reasons
fathom wadi
@pearl elk its a faux X then?
pearl elk
You could move to Australia 🙂 Up North is even similar climate to Philippines
fathom wadi
I dont want to go there because of snakes and spiders
pearl elk
the isolation?
zinc matrix
Yes and the fact that relatives can reach me. We may have some, uh, disagreements
zinc matrix
They can fly. Some did for a school trip to NZ once
pearl elk
Families aye, I cant even get all of mine together, its worse than the USA atm 🙂
fathom wadi
wish I could fly. Been trying for years
zinc matrix
Well, a distant relative and her students
north torrent
I would go to Australia if I could find a job that didn't actually require me to work.