#lounge
gilded vigil
thin storm
I mean concept in a general sense. but cool idea is it your game or what?
zinc matrix
oh
north torrent
I would like to be a lumberjack.
thin storm
sure that such games somtimes go wild because people think its funny.
north torrent
I've never flown across the Atlantic though... maybe someday.
zinc matrix
you have never been flown*
north torrent
No.
zinc matrix
huh
north torrent
You are wrong.
zinc matrix
you are a pilot?
north torrent
I am an English teacher.
north torrent
I would mark you wrong on a test if you wrote it like that.
zinc matrix
oh i mean i was been flown
north torrent
Just making it worse now.
zinc matrix
perfect
thin storm
I smell beef. lol I bought a steak at store earlier and didnt look at the price. I looked after it on the price list. it costs me 8 bucks.
north torrent
Flying kind of sucks.
I guess depending on the size of the steak that could be a really good bargain or a really huge rip off.
north torrent
I was a bacon once.
north torrent
Ok.
north torrent
I have 16 small humans I have to look after every day.
zinc matrix
i guess you make them think its ok to exploit animals.
north torrent
Luckily I can send them home at 3:55 in the afternoon.
zinc matrix
no response cause you think i am delusional
how old r they
10
Mao is responsible for kids.. but he no parent..
tiny juniper
can anyone relate?
zinc matrix
@tiny juniper almost. some airport departure/arrival charts aka procedures look like that
pearl elk
16 small humans, thats enough for a shoe factory
zinc matrix
which me good luck https://i.imgur.com/4TFLoHJ.png
@zinc matrix
OMG BROS!!
iM DOOMEEDDD
thing is..
i wastd already 1h trying to get VSC to display erros
but its bugged !
tulip orbit
whoops ๐
tulip orbit
or an mmo
pearl elk
oh I dont even write that anymore cuz its a company design pillar, we use it on all our products ๐
Its all about persistence and connecting with your customer, you really want them tapping their phone on the toilet to get freebies
We even have the lick a toilet phone challenge
pearl elk
because of the deadlights
0.003 health remaining... I got this
999.99999 health remaining... I should town portal and dump my inventory just incase
tulip orbit
either I change it to a float, or cast to float to get the percent for health bar
tulip orbit
?
pearl elk
because its between 0 and 1 you can account for the position of the floating point as not to lose precision
tulip orbit
the percent? I'm still confused.
pearl elk
its not a percent its a decimal
tulip orbit
oh. ue is calling it a percent :p
pearl elk
I prefer to multiply rather than divide too ๐
zinc matrix
I PREFERMULTIPLE TOO
@pearl elk
@tulip orbit Never.. make MmO...
bad for ur health
pearl elk
Issue can be with using a percentage like that if you try to normalize a big number like a bosses max health
you'll have the same size bar and it'll move slowly, you'd probably want multiple bars
have like acouple of yellows then a red
zinc matrix
EAEAE
tulip orbit
if the bar is moving slowly, need to hit it harder
tulip orbit
I havent programmed mine in yet
pearl elk
mash to perform combos
tulip orbit
updated my main hud a bit tho. looks better but every fantasy GUI kit uses those damn orbs for health/mana like diablo
pearl elk
lol yup I do in mine too
tulip orbit
its an easy change later if I ever come up with a better idea
pearl elk
I think its just alittle more professional than numbers
tulip orbit
I had horizontal bars before, but it didnt look that great
pearl elk
so you did vertical orb bar thingos?
tulip orbit
yeah. using this gui kit: https://cdn.gamedevmarket.net/wp-content/uploads/20191203183928/a52d991a1d96b58c82eec855631b2584.jpg
pearl elk
Yup thats very diablo alright
tulip orbit
it kinda bugs me doing such a close visual style to diablo, but I couldnt find good looking kits that werent based on diablo..
atleast, ones that fit my game.
pearl elk
Theres worse games to be copying UIs from ๐
Make it all orange holo like diablo HL hehe
this ones pretty cool ๐
tulip orbit
OOooh. I'd like to make the orbs look like that ๐
pearl elk
they are pretty resource heavy though
tulip orbit
pff, frame rates are overrated ๐
pearl elk
Its the translucency and 2 sided options, really needs a dither
you can turn off the glass but its not as good
Might run fine on RTX lol
tulip orbit
I should make my hud fully 3d, with awesome particle effects and such
brb tho, thinking stick
tulip orbit
that would be great ๐
pearl elk
be great for a Vampire game with the bloodpacks
tulip orbit
lol, yeah
tulip orbit
no :p
pearl elk
Its okay you only need to send out 12k NDAs
tulip orbit
๐ฑ
zinc matrix
the world is controlled
by introverts
no need NDAs when there are no players
smart.gif
brothers
rugged vapor
tulip orbit
zinc matrix
your feminine warts the best
pearl elk
hmm so the PS5 event is delayed aye
soft night
they got it best to delay it with current events
pearl elk
Yeah makes sense, its been one yell of a year so far
zinc matrix
monso
if i make kid one day
ill tell him the stories about the legend monsoolympus the great
and your computer adventures
soft night
have to say Unreal have nice assets
pearl elk
nice free assets ๐
zinc matrix
amsterdam, explain to me why you placed the runway on the most left side??? https://i.imgur.com/REqLGF6.jpg
your trying to find toilet
you have to poopoo on the streets..
@zinc matrix explain!!!
gov want u to poop on street
so we have more food for plants
what
@zinc matrix how old r u
https://i.imgur.com/gcRqxnA.png ๐ ๐
the chart oficially says that pilots should not mistake the highway for a runway
https://i.imgur.com/OaaXRkm.jpg
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix your game looks nice
is that ur game?
i love your game
LOVEEEEEE
really
lovevevelele
idk my man
I use
UNITY
๐ฆ
and almost finished my mmo ๐ฆ
oak bay
lucid walrus
ooh... that huge switch on enum... I feel that ๐ฌ
zinc matrix
anyone her would buy a vr game made for rtx 2070s, where you walk in a forest in the night? (photorealistic)
sage tendon
amsterdam, explain to me why you placed the runway on the most left side??? https://i.imgur.com/REqLGF6.jpg
@zinc matrix
There was not enough space on the other sides
zinc matrix
im gonna read a social book
to be more social
sage tendon
They want to have more runways, but the area is full so they're going to expand on a different airport about 40km away
thorny dock
that's pretty cool, one would look at that map and say "wow thats all packed in there" but its really cleverly laid out
sage tendon
Funny thing, on the top left on the pic, there is a tiny village called "Vijfhuizen", which directly translates to "Fivehouses"
thorny dock
That is so awesome, I would love to travel to to Amsterdam region one day, so much traveling I would love to do
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix photorealism is not possible with avg hw
i tried with gtx 970
photorealism not possible
2020
i see u...
in other diskord..
tf..
where
@zinc matrix
perhaps not for specific target groups like vr users
most of them perhaps have 2070 and better
pre rendered game?
@zinc matrix in how to lose weight discord
pearl elk
Im all about the photofeelism
zinc matrix
yes
fathom wadi
Not sure if you guys saw this but Epic released the Control Rig for Manny today aside the free marketplace stuff. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/control-rig-mannequin#
@zinc matrix you can do photorealism in VR right now. You just need the processing to back it up. Dont forget that we are using 2k screens with 2k processing just to normalise home use. But industry has way better. Military even more so. What we see now in the home is pathetic, drip-fed, marketable VR that took 3 years to normalise. Now it has, it's time to move forward in leaps and bounds. Get the 8K screen ready. Get the next gen dedicated VR GPU. Get the immersion back for those who are now normalised to the experience.
btw... I've been working with control rig and it's potentially awesome. It needs a few more interfaces/entry points to manage controlling it programmatically speaking, but you can work around those for now. Once the workflow is cleaned up, more control units are added and some optimisation is done, I see no reason to be animating externally for the broke indie dev.
pearl elk
Part of the appeal of the Marketplace for me is buying anims which work with the Epic skeleton, I usually only need to touch up existing animations rather than make new ones
fathom wadi
Im not a particular fan of that approach. I used to prefer it, not anymore. There is too much time spent with limitation, alterations, modifications and other "fications". Like when I use Blender and have to put up with Mr Mannequin, which is great when it works, and is a pain when it doesn't. So you add more layers of crap onto it. Being free to just move shit around. That appeals to me. Even if it means 6 hours of timeline work in sequencer
well thats where standalones come in. They are going to pick up the pace. Thats why I mentioned dedicated VR gpu. It's like the start of the console race again
but it does mean more dripfeeding. Thats capitalism for yer
pearl elk
Wouldnt you have 2 dedicated VR GPUs?
fathom wadi
no. Just have one render an offset whilst it's at it
pearl elk
sounds slow
fathom wadi
its about fast enough tho. Quest has its issues. But its good enough for what sells on that platform
pearl elk
Still not seeing people giving up their 4K LEDs for it
I guess thats why its more of an amusement ride rather than a game you play at home on your own rig
fathom wadi
I don't think I'll be happy until im at 16k per eye like Carmack said. I mean, chances are he has experienced that and he stated it should be the standard now if we could.
pearl elk
Carmack wears lenses bigger than Gear VR every day though ๐
fathom wadi
lol
I dont blame him for wanting to duck out of the VR scene now though. If its in drip feed mode, there is no reason for him to stay. May as well move to AI and keep pushing forward
pearl elk
Its possible VR and AI will overlap, look at DLSS, maybe theres value in being able to upscale for VR applications
theres also adaptive resolution, combined with foveal rendering. You can optimise pretty far and with newer wifi/bluetooth you can get better interface speeds but
its still the same VR experience and if the price doesnt get lower, if theres still alot of friction
look at the smart phone for example, the UIs are pretty similar now but VR platform has so many different controllers just setting them all in UE4 takes a week ๐
dim ruin
I fucking hate Dell PCs and I also hate Windows 10 Updates. Rant over
fathom wadi
I once had windows update start whilst I was compiling. I've never liked it since. I didn't even have it set to auto update. It just did it. Which then prompted me to switch auto-updates on so I could manage the time they happen.
dim ruin
thats what pisses me off about windows 10 updates. My personal PC is fine but by profession I'm a system/network/database admin for a large retailer and our IT head moved our stores all over to Dell hardware and windows 10. Its been a fucking nightmare. we use system center for most configuration and even between that and policies we just can't get these fucking updates under control
Regarding Dell, I love their server blades but their PCs are dogshit. Cheapest hardware I've ever seen
fathom wadi
the whole network sharing of updates seemed like a nice idea at the time until it drops your network speeds on two pc's or more also. Im guessing it needs a decent setup that I dont have in the home :/
dim ruin
we have optiplex 3050s and 3070s in stores and even the damn usb ports are always dying. the headers fry in under a year in most cases it seems
but I absolutely love the blades we run at head office
fathom wadi
something I never trusted about contract network computers. What incentive is there for them to actually work? I mean, they make a business out of hiring the computers, and fixing them when hardware fails (because usual recourse is just send it back). Worked at a place with a company called Trust Computers once. Fuck that. Never trust them in my experience :p
dim ruin
modern version of the poweredge used by blizzard for WoW servers ๐
these guys right here:
https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/pedge/dell-poweredge-r720-spec-sheet.pdf
heard rumors that what they used anyway for WoW
pearl elk
Yeah Queen was white guys
abstract haven
dim ruin
I know that TArray is the standard array type in UE4 but sometimes it feels so fucked up to use TArray for stuff like representing vertex buffers
etc
or when storing raw binary. TArray<uint8> just looks like something went terribly wrong
north torrent
I don't understand what language you are speaking.
dim ruin
engrish
north torrent
Should I add 'vertex buffer' to my student's next vocab list?
median wraith
๐คฆ๐ฝโโ๏ธ
zinc matrix
@median wraith
Calm your right waifu
We both know your right waifu typed that message
Heberickkkk
median wraith
At times I ask myself hows that some people keep here
zinc matrix
@median wraith what
Keep wut
Bukkymukky
Hebedik i think you should support your parents
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix stop
fluid bloom
mario likes happy servers
zinc matrix
trolling
mossy nexus
<@&213101288538374145> can you have a word with 2020 or velcro or whoever they are.
north torrent
I decided I am going to send my students to Mars.
mossy nexus
Mars bar factory?
mossy nexus
Hmm. It's actually mainly brown coloured. Venus on the other hand is probably closer to red due to the burning sulphur etc
north torrent
mossy nexus
it would be something to write home about, that's for sure
north torrent
No corona-virus on Mars.
Well, the final week of the project really is about writing letters between Earth and Mars.
mossy nexus
Mail delivery would be problematic.
zinc matrix
@mossy nexus you dont like gays?
north torrent
Well, I am an English teacher. I am more worried about their grammar than how they manage to send the letters.
north torrent
The first week is about Organizations. So I am setting the class up into 5 different corporations.
Each corporation specializes in one thing, atmosphere, water, plants, animals, and homes. They will have to make plans on how to make Mars livable for 1,000 people.
The second week is about Ecosystems and how we are going to terraform Mars.
The third week is about communication. We will start with communication between Earth and Mars. Half the students are going to be left on Earth and they have to communicate with each other.
sage tendon
@zinc matrix got the reference ๐
mossy nexus
so did I, but I was being pedantic ๐
Surely communication should be first, as it's probably more important. Otherwise for 3 weeks half your class can't talk to the other half?
zinc matrix
make them learn what veganism is
north torrent
Well, that's not the way that the Units are taught, so I just have to go with the order I'm told.
The Mars stuff is all my idea, but I have to follow the Units from the book, which go Organizations, Ecosystems, and Communication.
Though we probably won't actually send any students into space until the 3rd week anyways.
mossy nexus
Give them time to prepare. Good idea
north torrent
The first week we will form our corporations and the second week we will be building our ships to transport what we need.
north torrent
Depends on the size of the paper I give them, and whether or not they try to bring all the water needed with them...
mossy nexus
Hmm, they might burn up on entry.
north torrent
Mars doesn't have enough atmosphere.
mossy nexus
That's why there are never any good parties there
north torrent
Well... unless they send stuff first to produce an atmosphere, forget to calculate in the fact that they just added an atmosphere, and then kill themselves...
mossy nexus
Problems problems lol
north torrent
I'm also going to have the nonverbally communicate with aliens once they get to Mars.
Have them decide if they want to be peaceful or shoot the aliens.
mossy nexus
What if the aliens have no eyes or ears?
north torrent
They will, because I will make them.
What doesn't make him mad?
He is so insecure almost everything sets him off.
mossy nexus
Oh God!
north torrent
Maybe I'll send a black man with the Chinese students.
Hmmm... now I'm debating on making an alien team...
mossy nexus
Black Chinese students ideally
north torrent
My class has no diversity. They are all ethnically Chinese.
mossy nexus
Ah. Shame.
north torrent
My old school had one white student.
mossy nexus
China should consider encouraging diversification to just to really annoy Trump
north torrent
We have black teachers.
Shanghai is rather diverse, just not the children.
Non-Chinese children usually end up in International Schools. I don't think they can go to the regular school without being a citizen.
And the chances of a white or black person being a citizen of China is very rare.
mossy nexus
I can imagine.
north torrent
If you don't at least have a grandparent from China then I don't know any possible way to become a citizen.
But I guess you don't need a passport on Mars.
north torrent
I'll watch.
dim ruin
hey hey hey! Is three a crowd? ๐
north torrent
The bananas is called a bunch.
dim ruin
ruh roh
north torrent
I'm eating a pizza with cheese in the crust.
dim ruin
ah thats awesome. I love stuffed crust pizza
north torrent
Going back to work after working from home for 3 months is hard...
tulip orbit
so dont ๐
north torrent
We have school from June to July, and I've got to make that money.
tulip orbit
well then dont work very hard ๐
dim ruin
I feel very fortunate that I've been working from home since 2017. The city where the head office of the company I work for is in the hardest hit city in Canada by COVID-19 and I used public transit when I lived there so I'm sure things wouldn't have gone very well for me if I was still stuck there
north torrent
The hardest hit city in Canadia is still probably better than the least hardest hit city in your southern neighbors...
But here we have gone through the whole cycle of corona-virus and haven't had any new outbreaks in ages.
They are still being very careful and strict about stuff, and there are about 8 different plans for any possible scenario if a child at school comes down with corona-virus.
So I'm really not worried about that. It is just physically a big change to go from being lazy all day for 3 months to now being on my feet most of the day chasing around small humans.
dim ruin
Definitely possible. The U.S. is a complete shitshow right now
I'm uncomfortable even being within a few hours driving distance of the Canada/U.S. border right now lmao
north torrent
I am generally a supporter of riots in the streets... Eating the rich is sort of my thing...
But right now... sigh... I just don't get it...
dim ruin
Oh I don't even mean that, I'm just talking about the pandemic
although I do worry about what may happen with new COVID-19 infection rates after these massive protests/riots
north torrent
But what do you think the numbers will be like 10 days from now? When all those people out in large gatherings, shoulder to shoulder where there is no room to stand without touching, with people shouting their spit everywhere...
dim ruin
and for the record, if that Ebola outbreak goes global and makes it to North America... I'll be leaving the city a.s.a.p. and be going all hunger games level 50 on anyone that approaches my encampment lol
Ebola pandemic would be a fucking nightmare. That's some mass extinction shit right there
north torrent
Well, the human race has to die out eventually.
dim ruin
To quote Cypress Hill: "I ain't going out like that"
north torrent
You can't be all that surprised when you entire species goes extinct after countless decades of unsustainable behavior and living on the very very razors edge.
north torrent
The very idea of having most of your species living in these super cities with multiple millions of people is already asking for trouble.
mossy nexus
eggs and baskets
north torrent
dumps Mr. Moa.d's basket on his head
dim ruin
I know. Believe me, I'm trying like hell to move out of the city and in to the countryside. The biggest obstacle has been reliable internet service. Every place I've found so far is only able to be serviced by either satellite internet service or by radio internet service. Both are terrible and I wouldn't be able to do my work from home
omg, I can't imagine trying to download a new UE4 version over radio internet haha
mossy nexus
takes his basket off Mr Mฤo's head.
north torrent
Since the 2008 recession in the US, the only economic recovery has been in the major cities. All the rural areas were hit with the job losses and never recovered even one little bit.
The statistics say that the US eventually recovered, but that isn't true for any small cities and towns.
Everyone is being forced into the major cities with overpriced real estate in order to have an opportunity at a decent paying job.
The US economy was total shit before corona-virus and the virus just made the problems visible.
dim ruin
the US economy was artificially inflated. I warned many people and no one listened. Trump takes his economic advice from a "board" of his billionaire friends who advise him what they feel would boost the stock market. Every economic decision involving the US market by him has been based on their word lol
it was pretty obvious what was going to happen for anyone that was paying attention
I had professional account managers telling me I'm wrong and the market is strong... I'm like yeah, well make sure you buy real deep then! lol
north torrent
It is all fake.
The stock market and all the people trading it live in a fantasy world.
dim ruin
Its just another form of gambling as far as I'm concerned, and I prefer precision over chance
north torrent
The only difference is when the wealthy elite lose at their gambling it is the low level workers that pay the price while the wealthy elite still walk away with a profit.
Worst case scenario the government bails you out or gives you large subsidies.
Socialism for the mega-rich, rugged individualism / tough luck capitalism / social Darwinism for everyone else.
zinc matrix
before i wake up, take shower and eat and be ready for coding its 3pm already jfl
pearl elk
I have satellite internet, its good enough for work, not good enough for MP games though
zinc matrix
copecopecopecopecope
deep glen
mossy nexus
lol
golden wedge
Hello, my student has a pc issue. Is this a dead gpu??
tulip orbit
๐คฏ
golden wedge
Yeah mental right?
mossy nexus
maybe. or a virus.
tulip orbit
too much porn in class
zinc matrix
UT discord has 130k members but it's dead
@mossy nexus cope
thats not a virus lmao
you watched too much resident evil
pearl elk
Whats UT?
zinc matrix
unreal tournament
mossy nexus
Plenty of virus can affect the graphics. I've had one.
pearl elk
so UT is a virus that affects graphics?
pearl elk
virus game isnt a game game virus game though
mossy nexus
๐
gilded vigil
virus game isnt a game game virus game though
@pearl elk no it's a NO VIRUS game
pearl elk
I dunno, sounds believable cuz take two but from what I could tell the studio has changed their name multiple times, split into separate entities and losing IP in the process, working on a game with someone elses IP and hasnt released anything in 3 odd yrs
I mean if a company is poaching your employees cause they can actually afford to pay them who's in the wrong there ๐
sage tendon
So kerbal space program 2 is RIP?
pearl elk
Its still getting made just by Intercept owned by Take Two
sage tendon
So its not from the same people as KSP?
pearl elk
The way this industry works I doubt any sequel is by the same people
sage tendon
What a shame
rich quiver
E3 was the time the studio to find a publisher
pearl elk
From the designer who brought you that random candy crush clone and thing simulator 2017
rich quiver
but no publisher the company close
zinc matrix
yeah kinda funny that fallouts were made by different company than fallout2
fallout2 was my favorite
total copers
tough sierra
You all can't possibly tell me.
That this doesn't look cool as fuck ๐
Hell this is why I use custom FlatBuffer and FlatFlaggedBuffer templated containers, to avoid dynamic memory as much as possible.
This looks way cooler than the conventional approach which would not even get 100th of the units on screen.
This doesn't just allow one to multithread in the conventional sense where you have one thread per task, that's actually not ideal when your dealing with large object counts, what you want to do instead is multithread a single task, and get it done a lot quicker. Since everything's on a linear buffer this is super easy to do and predict for. Should have less mutexes at that to. We badly need an API for this stuff.
soft night
you ned nanites
soft night
have you seen UE5 demo?
tough sierra
Yeah, though that won't be out for a long time.
soft night
well that unity demo the Dots have improved a lot and improving still this year too
ue4.25 have cool gear as well
all seems to be going this ECS thing approach
tough sierra
Oh?
Now I need to find documentation on this.
Google's not bringing up anything on ue4 implementing their own ECS for the engine.
nova finch
burp
soft night
what you think chaos is doing?
tough sierra
I thought we were still using Physicx
Says destruction for chaos is supported, i take it then that one has to manually enable chaos to test this stuff.
Aaaaand there might be a bunch of custom API stuff no clue.
Nothing mentioned about ECS though.
A physics engine wouldn't really want something like that internally, it'd need something a bit more custom to really squeeze out that extra bang per buck.
We could really use something like dots for ue4.
The video i've seen showcasing how to get started with it, made it seem super easy to get a scene up with 100k MOVING sprites ONSCREEN.
And that barely took any time at all.
zinc matrix
damn i forgot to use toilet now its toolate
dim ruin
whats this NativeArray<T> shit? Is that something Unity added for ECS?
tough sierra
It is.
@dim ruin It's supposed to be a perfectly flat buffer, you know, like how you can do in C but normally not so well in C#.
I think it's outside GC or some other stuff but it's highly recommended to be used with ECS when dealing with plain data.
dim ruin
Yeah, you can alloc unmanaged memory which gc cannot touch. Only catches are you have to perform your own memory alignment and cleanup.
tough sierra
That's really a catch? ๐
dim ruin
You can do some fun stuff with it though;)
You can do lots of dangerous fun high perf stuff with it.
tough sierra
I'm used to it in the C world i'd hardly call it dangerous.
But i usually deal with flat non dynamic buffers.
dim ruin
Its dangerous in managed stack lol easy to break shit if you don't know what you're doing.
tough sierra
There any upsides to using C# aside from memory management? Seems it usually get s in the way at least for engine dev or deving in games which need the extra performance.
Thank god for native array though
dim ruin
Iteration times are stupid fast, code base is smaller and more readable, the syntax is more consistent, and it doesn't feel like you're writing code in the stone age.
C# all the way, all day
tough sierra
I'm not sure about iteration time but to be fair i've not given it a solid try.
dim ruin
100% guarantee its faster iteration times than c or c++
tough sierra
Even considering templates and unique_ptr and other C++17 features?
Though to be honest, I don't touch OOP much.
I rather dispose it for engine work or game dev, maybe not so much for desktop app dev though.
dim ruin
And actually, you might be surprised by this but it will most likely outperform most native code and has benchmarks to back that up. AOT and JIT compilers are WAY better at optimizing that what most native devs are. To make native code run that fast, you REALLY need to know your shit when it comes to optimizations and compiler options
dim ruin
.NET core will kick the shit out of anything most devs will do. I mean exceptionally fast
tough sierra
Without a doubt, most programmers are too into OOP stuff and it's horrible for performance.
And are way into using over the top abstractions where it's not necessary.
dim ruin
Big part is not knowing how to correctly optimize compiler options
Have you heard of the game engine Xenko?
tough sierra
Testing, profiling, throwing on O3, profiling again, avoiding dynamic memory as much as possible, avoiding indirection as much as possible. Helping the compiler know your intentions properly.
Honestly no it sounds interesting.
dim ruin
Its .net based, not even on .net core. And it outperforms UE4s rendering lol
tough sierra
Honestly i've never given just the raw rendering bit a solid try.
It's a bit annoying to get passed the UObjects.
I've tried Unigine and it's pretty light weight compared.
dim ruin
(Xenko) Its the fastest benchmarked rendering for game engines so far. Sadly, the main dev left for Unity. Hence why Unity has so much low level stuff being added to compliment ECS and burst now
tough sierra
Which is surprisingly impressive.
C++ access is super nice and all but it won't mean anything without sufficient low level access.
Though i guess i could just try Ogre3D... I think it's iteration 2.1 now.
Where they supposedly went more into the DOD side of things.
dim ruin
I love UE4, don't get me wrong... but what a gigantic convoluted code base
tough sierra
Personally i attribute that to design, and over reliance on blueprints.
dim ruin
I've spent way more time combing over engine source than I care to disclose and omg it gets ugly in UE4
tough sierra
It makes a boss level editor though, honestly maybe that's what we mostly need, a really well maintained rendering and level editor, at least for those of us that need to peel back abstractions.
dim ruin
and I'm sorry for anyone's feelings hurt by this, but UE4's approach to reflection is dogshit. It took them almost 20 years to implement TMap replication because its that fucked up
but at the end of the day, the rendering pipeline is top notch and I like their material system lol
tough sierra
The material system is dope yeah.
I don't like programming shaders >.<
Though personally am trying to learn vulkan from scratch and maybe get a solid foundation on 3D graphics programming.
dim ruin
I don't mind opengl shaders (sort of), I like the runtime aspect
I haven't done anything with vulkan but spir-v is a nice idea
tough sierra
It's just that till recently never found an easy way to learn the stuff is all, doesn't seem horrible.
dim ruin
opengl's extensions can be a real pain in the ass though
tough sierra
From what i'm reading and watching it seems to give an insane amount of control over the hardware, which personally I like as a low level programmer.
dim ruin
yeah same with dx 12. all about low level fence control etc
tough sierra
I suspect it's even lower level than that but not the experience to declare such, but it's advertised as such.
dim ruin
brb I'm being demanded to make strawberry sundaes lol
tough sierra
Ok this makes sense.
I discovered something similar in python, installing and testing out libs is sooooo fucking fast... At least unless you are following a tutorial that's out of date but in python and duck typed langs in general it's hard to know the args of functions and such.
So it seems harder to use for larger projects. C# though i've never fully given a fair handshake. Java i hated for being too forced into objects for everything.
The OOP nature of a java built game engine I was helping work on for someone's game project had some issues related to the forced in OOP. He had to pass a "Game" reference everywhere because he needed some way to reach back into global scope.
Which is sometimes, actually nearly always needed in engine dev.
Maybe i need to give it a full dive though.
I'm pointing this all out because I want to quickly experience the best possible pros of using C# for testing, in a way that gets me over the previous bad taste in my mouth from other langs, especially as far as productivity cause i found it pretty lacking in most other places.
I've mostly tried java, typescript, crystal, bit of python, a bunch of other stuff I can't remember. I would say typescript was the best so far but it had no macros or templates and no way to create nice flat buffers of objects. Though the style was nice. So i've mostly stuck with low level langs for the past 8 years.
dim ruin
c# is OOP-oriented too but its by far the most powerful of all managed languages. It exposes quite a bit of low level access and native interop options if you choose to use it, its just not the standard route. You typically only see it really used in game/graphics stuff. The option is definitely there though. .NET Core has made performance and low-level a high priority (finally) too which is a game changer
Development times are definitely faster though. The syntax is clearly c/c++-based so it will be familiar to you and easy to pick up but the fast dev times I feel come from the robust framework that comes out of the box and the syntax is definitely stream-lined and very consistent
tough sierra
So basically libraries.
dim ruin
I'm actually really excited to see the first real commercial game engine attempt to come from modern .NET Core
tough sierra
Which is still a very strong and valid reason.
dim ruin
yea the libs aspect helps a lot. Its all out of the box so its fast to just jump in and go
I never liked Java much either personally and I love c#
tough sierra
Had that experience with processing and openFrameworks for 2D stuff.
That good strong set of libs work really well in getting a prototype done, and you might be lucky enough to not need to replace them with anything custom later on.
Messing about web servers or web scraping or 3D engines, yeah it's friggin painful to do that in C++ with all the cross platform hell that makes it take forever to install libs, with pages and pages of instructions to read and guesswork on the dependencies.
dim ruin
ugh I can't imagine c++ for web. god that would be painful
dim ruin
lol
tough sierra
I found that node.js with a C++ backend makes for a perfect combo for a game server, if you use something like p5.js for client side graphics and make your custom engine heavy into using indexes for stuff like physics bodies.
But fully C++...... Na
Best i found for socket programming in C++ often disregarded dealing with HTTP connections in such a way that web browsers might not be able to connect (i'm not sure)
Then again.
I'm not that great with web technologies.
And don't fully understand the protocells used.
dim ruin
my networking weakness is god damned NAT traversal. I dream of the day when IPv6 is fully accepted and commonplace
tough sierra
I somewhat dread that but after the growing pains maybe not so much.
A lot of libs don't play nice with IPv6
sdl_net being one.
dim ruin
people in general are so paranoid of it. They have no idea just how much metadata is aggregated from your system/browser already. IPv6 should be the least of their concern lol
Even a browser's font cache is used in "fingerprinting" a system to the point that when combined with other metadata collected via browser, some sites are able to maintain user sessions without cookies! lol thats kinda wild
tough sierra
You mean like gpu or other hardware data.
It'd be less a problem if you could easily reset your ip every time you reset the modem, which my old isp let me do.
dim ruin
I don't recall if a browser can get any info off gpu, probably though, some can render with it. But definitely other hardware info is available to the browsers environment
tough sierra
I heard about the gpu one years ago.
Ever since html5 I think.
That's hearsay though.
A big IP range would make it harder for bots to find you.
dim ruin
people are just paranoid of anything they don't understand these days
tough sierra
I um, may have done a port scan test, i think it takes less than 100 scans to find any random IP with an open port.
dim ruin
IPv6 is fine (and important)
tough sierra
The paranoia I think is somew3hat justified.
tough sierra
We should be having an open discussion or dialing at least form a professional's perspective.
SMB?
dim ruin
server message block. special ports that are highly vulnerable to remote execution attacks
tough sierra
Wasn't looking for anything specific more was testing a port scanner + ip generator combo to see how fast it'd take to gather IPs with open ports. Found one for a printer one time I think. Dropped it forever ago though. Made me realize that any ports you have open, are always vuln.
dim ruin
originally intended for server management etc
dim ruin
eternal blue, eternal sunshine, wannacry all use SMB
tough sierra
Even caught strange behavior on some servers i put up, regardless of the random port I picked.
dim ruin
they scan the internet at random IPs testing SMB ports for vulnerabililty and then slam it
dim ruin
its patched now but lots of systems still haven't applied it
a few years ago our corporate network got infiltrated by a monero mining bot network that used part of that as its way in. was some wild shit. definitely the most advanced I have ever seen. Was impressive really.
It used the SMB exploit to get in, then it fucking patched it itself so no other exploits would interrupt it LOL
It wasn't a destructive exploit thankfully, or else we would have been fucked. It was in there for a few months before I found it
tough sierra
Smart, you don't want competition.
The idea of malware fighting each other is pretty funny.
I find security fun to study but i've avoided sinking massive time into it, I know that it won't pay for itself unless I actually go ham into that kind of career, but then again, maybe engine dev won't pan out for me either.
dim ruin
it even used steganography embedded into a taylor swift image to perform its own version check. There was sooo much we found in this thing, it was really impressive
tough sierra
Holy wow.
Speaking of fun, i'd avoid touching wav files for a while.
Was informed a while ago that they allow for custom codecs which have a few very nasty vulns in them.
Can even be patched to where one doesn't hear a difference in the audio quality.
That one friggin surprised the hell out of me.
dim ruin
neat
rugged storm
static cosmos
What's the best software for creating documentation in for designers? Including screenshots and text. You can do it in word, but sometimes it's finicky. For example, I create a class, and they need to go in and create child classes and put in all the specific stuff to each child class, assign the skeletal meshes, materials, animations, set variables and configure each one. I'd like to make a quick little document that they can refer to so that they know what they need to set on each one and where everything is. I was just wondering if there was anything out there better than word for doing that.
tough sierra
There's doc gens.
I bet you could use that and write in your own notes as well.
Processing and openframeworks uses html pages.
Which honestly maybe that's how I should do mine.
I've been meaning to organize documentation, seems pretty fun.
static cosmos
what's doc gens?
tough sierra
I've seen software that creates documentation based off your code, it'll include your comments and such.
Makes a nice GUI thing for it all.
doxgen maybe?
static cosmos
Ah, I see. Doxygen seems to be the name
tough sierra
Really that should be "mostly" sufficient so long as you properly write your code out to be easily readable.
fathom wadi
doxgen is nice but you are essentially writing your docs as you comment, so its not doing anything you didn't do yourself anyway :p
static cosmos
Might not help me unless I convert this to C++ I took over this project part way through and it's already done in blueprint.
fathom wadi
I saw a blueprint doc gen once. Didn't see how far it progressed but that was a good idea
tough sierra
We could use something like that yeah, that stuff is a mess to organize.
How goes life?
dim ruin
Oh I thought you mean you wanted to make like, a step by step guide lol yeah don't use powerpoint for code docs
static cosmos
Yes I do want to make a step by step guide.
mostly. I just want to detail all the various variables they need to fill out as well as a couple functions that might have to override depending on the class (some classes use a looping animation, some don't, so if they create one without it, they need to just override the function that would set the animation)
I could turn that into a bool that they could tag actually
I might do that.
tough sierra
That's where you'd want tutorials and examples of how to use stuff like what processing has.
Like in that link.
static cosmos
Thanks, I'll look into that one.
tough sierra
Just for ideas i'm not sure that's the best.
As a beginner i found this very helpful even though others might see it as hand holdy.
static cosmos
It mostly will be a text document, but there will probably be some screenshots, and I didn't really like the way you put screenshots in word, so I wondered if there might be a better program for putting those together. I don't think powerpoint is right either. looking up stuff in PP is a bit annoying.
tough sierra
I'd use an html doc if you got the patience for it then.
You could even use hyperlinks and such.
Might take a while to make it look pretty.
static cosmos
Yeah that might be more effort than this needs, but I'll add it to the list of maybes ๐
plucky pagoda
pearl elk
If that was Trump he woulda send the national guard to take that guys lawn by force ๐
fathom wadi
Lawn Force. Combined with Space Force. And Parking Force, might be the next step for the new interplanetary order.
You might say that the current use of force is a sign of how scared they really are about the people uprising. What can they do? What is the point they stop fighting back and start trying to save their own lives through change? Revolution always came about through a complete lack of options for a government other than mass genocide of it's own people, and that would get evreyone else attacking them, bad for business. Won't happen. But send a few cops to bust some skulls first seems to be enough to stop most revolutions. At some point the tide will break. More blood will be shed, but eventually, out of chaos comes order.
zinc matrix
its morning so i must STRETCH
pearl elk
I think it sucks pretty bad when your president labels you as a domestic terrorist just because you want to fight against injustice
Sound like the same sort of shit the poms woulda told the yanks back before the USA was formed
north torrent
zinc matrix
Mao Chan
my feet is all wet from water and medicine
waiting it to dry before i go full socks
@pearl elk yeah the protests were ok but the moment terrorists joined the protests Police has no idea who they should attack and who not cause they blend in normal protesters
so they tell protesters to go home and attack everyone who didnt
Trump is coping
god my mom took whole kitchen and i need to use it
your mom stronker
trust me
north torrent
Have you ever played any Total War games, Mr. Ponkkis?
Why not?
What you ever eaten tuna before?
Quit your job.
atomic slate
Hey all! Any one coming from Taiwan or Hong Kong and interested in Spring Game Jam?
Me from Taiwan.
To clarify, I think it's a good time(or a really tough time?) to create a game about fighting for freedom and democracy, or struggling with violence and censorship.....sth like that.
I know the jam has its own theme, but let's try and see what will happen(?)
north torrent
I think Spring is over.
Summer Game Jam?
Did it get delayed?
Well, that makes a bit more sense.
I'm going to avoid the topic of Hong Kong to avoid offending Mr. Soul.
I want garlic bread...
atomic slate
Ahaha I already posted there
And no, I won't be easily triggered like some chinese
Is this racism lol
foggy path
north torrent
Well, regardless I don't really feel like talking about democracy right now.
pearl elk
Whos mum is a stronker?
zinc matrix
i think ive heard from window
that im lazy bum
an old friend of me called me that
as he was traveling to his wageslaving job
kek
tough sierra
The older i get the more i really think people just want bloodhsed without any real reason and without realizing the consequences.
As in.
I literally see people excited at the thought, thinking of themselves as bad asses.
When these people aren't even experienced in near death situations, I am, and i'm humbled to have barely survived.
zinc matrix
ye they dumb af
tough sierra
No i don't even feel that way, more worried than anything else. The finger pointing is getting out of hand.
I used to be full of spite growing up, it's only ever been destructive, regardless of the ideals you have behind it.
north torrent
Corona-virus usually leaves your blood in your body.
tough sierra
I wonder if there's any culture with "respect for life" as a primary prerogative, even above all other ideals. Then again, ideals on their own aren't sensible.
pearl elk
Its easier to destroy than to create
tough sierra
"Yeah do (X horrible thing) to Y (person or people) because they 'deserve' it"
This is on a subconscious level and hides under the mask of the common folk, i've not found anyone yet who's decided against this perspective.
At least not enough proof of such.
^ hypocrisy. And very on point.
sage tendon
sounds like religion
tough sierra
NO it's not just that.
pearl elk
I think you'll find Buddhism doesnt promote any sort of violence and their idea of a violent protest is burning themselves
so please dont throw everyone in together thats the problem ๐
pearl elk
did you just assume my culture
pearl elk
still sound like someone who is promoting the divide and conquer strategy of their overlords
love is religion man
sage tendon
well
pearl elk
smoke this blunt, drink this herbal tea, you'll get it
tough sierra
Every political party, every gov and state entity, every piece of culture i've witnessed at least, seems to be ruthless toward it's enemies regardless of the value of life.
sage tendon
someone did write a book about buddhism and their acts of violence
pearl elk
lol Im sure the police and violence book is thicker
sage tendon
also, we all have seen videos of them putting their self on fire
also counts as violence ๐
pearl elk
its true, we are all gonna have to confess in the eyes of the lord when judgement day comes
tough sierra
I don't even mean as far as that, we have immediate consequences for perpetuating that cycle.
pearl elk
I think the only thing that matters is if you got the balls to stand up to God and admit you were wrong ๐
which means Republicans are screwed hehe jk
sage tendon
another best seller ๐
sage tendon
no one is sacred nor holy ๐
zinc matrix
your holy
tough sierra
I think part of it's we are afraid of ourselves more than anyone else.
zinc matrix
hole ole remco
sage tendon
im more afraid of stupid people than myself
tough sierra
So am curious, does anyone have any actual use for the emotion that is anger?
sage tendon
yes
pearl elk
Anger has a powerful energy but it can be used productively
pearl elk
ever got angry and gone for a walk and walked for ages? Thats healthy ๐
tough sierra
No.
zinc matrix
ive discovered gut thing recently
tough sierra
Anger for me always resulted in depression or holding a needless grudge which encouraged anti social behaviors. So perhaps i'm projecting a bit.
sage tendon
if you would never get angry, you would eat up everything and accept it all
pearl elk
Grit refers to the ability to pick yourself back up and battle through
tough sierra
I except the nature of things as they are, I still hold life as sacred.
Grit and anger aren't the same.
sage tendon
so you would accept people just coming in your house, trash everything, telling you what you can and cannot do?
fathom wadi
grit is what people learn when they realise the battle never ends.
happy talk in here today ๐
tough sierra
I don't need anger for defense, that blinds one from reacting properly.
sage tendon
where do you think the need of defense is coming from?
tough sierra
At least if it's overwhelming.
sage tendon
anger isnt just rage
pearl elk
lol man, that kids gonna cop a hiding
tough sierra
And that emotion i've noticed tends to cause irrational reactions.
sage tendon
emotion is the breeding place of irrational reactions (and choices)
its not just anger
pearl elk
I believe there is a point where physical forms of punishment stop working, not against trying until you get to that point
sage tendon
love also makes irrational choices, so does sadness
tough sierra
That and fear i put to question as of currently.
sage tendon
Fear is a very productive emotion to be honest
not the fear to opress people, but the fear that triggers i.e. the fight or flee response
or keeping you sharp to handle a situation better
its also a instict that helps many species to survive and evolve
tough sierra
Someone nearly took my life at one point, that anxiety and fear that came from it offered as a distraction, but maybe i'm misunderstanding it a bit.
pearl elk
Ive stopped many brawls because I was worried, not sure if Id call it fear for my own safety, mainly just that I dont like cleaning up the aftermath of that shit lol
sage tendon
potatoes potatoes
tough sierra
I didn't fight back till I let go of the fear and realized the consequences my death would have on those I cared for. At the last damn moment at that, should have died.
sage tendon
fear of death due to consequences for others is irrational
tough sierra
It wasn't even lack of physical reaction at first it was just being too shocked to realize I had a potential way out.
sage tendon
death is inevitable, therefor the consequences are bound to occur
tough sierra
That's just it, it wasn't fear at that last moment.
pearl elk
Today is a good day to die!
sage tendon
any day is a good day to die??
tough sierra
Most my family is older than me, i'd rather them go first, me being this young, they'd be torn apart especially ma. Might even potentially cause another death.
pearl elk
A day without battle risks all of our souls
sage tendon
after a few deaths, that feeling will dissapear
tough sierra
Morality of that aside, (not sure i'd feel the same now) there was for sure a better response to the situation once fear of death was removed from that moment.
Or at least lessoned.
sage tendon
death should be celebrated not mourned
pearl elk
so should first blood
tough sierra
Hmm you all got me questioning my stance on it though thank you ^-^
sage tendon
I've had 2 deaths in my family in March, and another is just around the corner
mourning sucks and doesnt do any good
tough sierra
Maybe it shouldn't be avoided, while they are still alive though, you should give them good moments. At least that's what the person would want.
sage tendon
celebrate life, the momories, share them, and keep them close to the hearth, but dont be sad because there is nothing to be changed
tough sierra
I try to deal with it by attempting to remind myself to "honor their memory". That's about all anyone can do.
tough sierra
Gives a legacy which is passed down.
sage tendon
aye
pearl elk
Oh that sucks, I hope they lived long lives
sage tendon
my aunt was around 50 (cancer), my grandfather was 86 (old age), and my grandmother (acute leukemia) 82,
tough sierra
Have work to go to, hope you all take care. Am just a former type A personality that has grown toward being type C and am really lost on what's the best response to life situations.
pearl elk
pardon the french but fuck cancer
tough sierra
Optimizing one's own decisions does go a long way.
sage tendon
if you're emotional, never make choices
pearl elk
Too many lives cut short by that shit
sage tendon
@pearl elk it does seem getting worse
tough sierra
I'm not really into anima (my pic might say otherwise but that's actually a character based off a game series) one exception however is a work called "parasyte maxum" you all might be interested in. Has a very interesting story where it pins the perspective of humanity against that of animals, what if one of them ended up more intelligent but without as many emotions kind of thing.
And posed a threat.
sage tendon
I think that animals can be over emotional just as humans, look for example at elephants
they can mourn a death for years
tough sierra
Some yeah.
pearl elk
Yeah I hope it will get better over time now we have removed many of the causes. Unfortunately people in their 50s and older got it bad cuz smoking was allowed inside for the longest time
sage tendon
I'm a smoker for 23 years now ๐ฌ
sage tendon
1 pack went from 6.50 to 7.70 overnight ๐
zinc matrix
total COPE
pearl elk
Im an ex-smoker, I smoked for umm maybe 10 years
sage tendon
how did you quit?
pearl elk
I just said fuck it, this tastes like shit
sage tendon
problem is, i love the smell and taste of smoke
i know, im weird at that
i tried detox 2 times, didn't help at all
tough sierra
Cya all o/
pearl elk
Catcha
sage tendon
also 1 social worker, but that was as helpful as a kid saying "smoking is bad for you"
like i didnt know already
pearl elk
You should see the price of smokes here its insane, a carton of 40s costs like almost $300
sage tendon
its getting out of hand here too
but finance is not a strong motivator to stop as its a external one
pearl elk
Its because of the strain it causes on the public healthcare system, least thats why they said they were doing it.
zinc matrix
muhaha remko
sage tendon
I'm in doubt to have me tested on the gene of addiction
zinc matrix
muuhu
pearl elk
I did get sick of being shoved off to the side, finding a place to smoke was tricky, you were out in the cold so I get less flus
sage tendon
That was a problem at first, until I noticed how it reduces stress by leaving the workplace every hour ๐
same at home
escaping wife and kids ๐
pearl elk
Yeah I didnt quit while I was working, I took the opportunity to do it between jobs cuz I knew how snappy I would be for awhile
sage tendon
Someone: Hey Mons, whats up?
Mons: Do you have a death wish?
pearl elk
lol my temper can be bad at the best of times
sage tendon
I found some medication that numbs the neurons in the brain so that you cant get the "Yes! this is the spot" feeling when you smoke (removing the "awards" of smoking)
only experimantel and heathcare doesnt pay for it
pearl elk
Yeah I never used patches or medication, I have seen that work for some
there is the old cigarette butts in water trick
sage tendon
what? how does that work?
pearl elk
what you do is make an ashtray out of an old jar, then when you get a few in there you fill it with water and put the lid on the jar. Then whenever you feel like a smoke you open the jar and sniff
pearl elk
yup putrid smell vs reward for thinking about it
sage tendon
Not sure, I worked some time ago for a pharmaceutical company, where one of the lung specialists told me about it after she found out I'm a heavy smoker
looks like it yes
Varenicline is a prescription medication that can help reduce cravings for tobacco and control nicotine withdrawal symptoms. It also blocks nicotine receptors in your brain, which decreases the pleasurable effects of smoking. It takes several days for varenicline to reach effective levels in the blood.
Bupropion this one
she told me about Bupropion
Bupropion is prescribed as an aid for smoking cessation.[32][33] Bupropion reduces the severity of nicotine cravings and withdrawal symptoms.[34] The effectiveness of bupropion for maintaining abstinence from smoking decreases over time, with 20% of persons remaining abstinent from smoking at one year.[35] Bupropion increases the likelihood of quitting smoking by approximately 1.6 fold.[36][needs update] The effectiveness of bupropion is comparable to nicotine replacement therapy, but less effective than varenicline.[34]```So, from that I get that varenicline is better aimed at smokers than bupropion
tulip orbit
I lasted 3 weeks
sage tendon
longest I managed was 7 hours
tulip orbit
I need to quit again
pearl elk
Wish they would legalise weed here so I wouldnt get in trouble when I drive stoned ๐
sage tendon
even when legalised, you shouldnt drive stoned
tulip orbit
its legal here, still cant drive stoned.
sage tendon
you can, but when you get cought... ๐
pearl elk
olympic comittee considers weed performance enhancing, Id trust them over the revenue raisers
tulip orbit
counts as under the influence
sage tendon
yes but only when cought ๐
pearl elk
Its not illegal here just decriminalised, you cant sell it and yeah operating a car stoned gets you in big trouble
infact its the same offense as driving while methed up
not sure how they figure that one
sage tendon
none users always think they have all the awnsers
someone who gets stoned for the first time must get the same high as a long-term user
pearl elk
Infact that reminds me of that recent post by SA police, they said and I quote
please wait 24hrs after doing meth before you drive
even though doing meth is illegal lol
sage tendon
well, here in the netherlands, some cities have to many coffeeshops while others have none
those that have none, have illegal sellers (from their house)
and the police knowns about them, but they dont do anything about it
as it makes the scene invisible
better to regulate and give actual helpful info than just bashing everyones head in
forcing it to get on the street, giving more problems
pearl elk
exactly, if we worked together we'd get alot further as we can reach a middle ground which works for everyone
sage tendon
a friend of mine is a seller like that, last weekend people broke in to his house
steeling all the weed and money
he hesitated the call the police
but once he did and they told him they already knew a very long time
they were actually very helpful
pearl elk
Proper police are good, they are after real criminals, the career kind
sage tendon
aye
dont fight symptoms, get the disease
(people love to get high, all living creatures do.. so... dont fight nature, its alost battle from the start)
pearl elk
Trying some ganja should be standard training for police hehe
sage tendon
a big blunt is a great way to simulate sitatuons while "being extremely tired" ๐
pearl elk
In my experience alcohol is the bad one, kinda wish we had that age limit of 21 too sometimes
austere garden
hey guys i know is not quite the place. but does anyone got a thermaltake lvl 20 XT? and have you flown with it? did you had any airline issues?
sage tendon
uff, some time ago we had a trend of coma drinkers
12 year olds drinking themself into a coma
pearl elk
amazing how young some people start
sage tendon
its our modern time that makes it strange, I believe
people used to live up to 30-40 years old, you were a senior at that age
if middle age is 20, then 12 is adult ๐
but since we halted physical evolution, its shifted to mental evolution (wisdom, knowledge, philosophy etc)
we're in a very weird era
sage tendon
hehe
the wierdest part of this
is how its being flown over to europe
even in the netherlands, we're suddenly all racist, people going to protest with 1000's of people
while we're still in a lockdown for corona
like... where did the intelligence go?
The biggest point, in my country, we have like no racism... Its in the constition, many laws, and frankly, if its here, is very - very invisible
then this guy came - Jerry Afriyie
created a binary group, saying whites are out killing non-whites
and poof, shit started to roll
hes most known for the group "Kick out Zwarte Piet
(Zwarte Piet is a character from the kids party at 5 december from Sinterklaas)
He's the one who made it a racist party, calling them black faces, not reading anything about the lore or whatever
Then we have this piece of Art, a "politician" that follows Jerry Airfryer without any fact checking. For example, a year ago some bloke pulled a "Suicide by Police" (with succes). This woman started to tell in the goverment that black people are now afraid of just getting shot due to this incident (she didnt even check that the guy was white)
so we have a problem here: Racism is being called out while there is no racism, resulting in to groups such as "Black Panthers", "Kick Out Zwarte Pit", "Black Lives Matters", fighting for something which is already there, resulting to unbalancing the balance - giving netto a reverse middle age
Perhaps its valid accross the ocean, but here... no
pearl elk
Its different here, we are similar to the US just not as bad. Aboriginals here have a nasty habit of dying while in police custody
sage tendon
we've only had 1 incident in the netherlands, 5 years ago
pearl elk
Even teenage Aboriginals are being abused, now I know sometimes a teenager needs a good kick up the arse but Gitmo style torture aint on
sage tendon
but since he was a colored person, he got reduced to just his color by those groups, how ironic
and now his name is being misused for goals which doesnt even apply
sickening tbh
even this is so fucking ironic, trying to ban black persons from a party as it would be racism... what do you think thats left after that? right, a white party.. ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
pearl elk
Yeah it can be twisted, I see it all the time with Eminem, he gets reduced to being a white rapper.. and can only be compared to other white rappers because apparently the music is black
I get why that happens, I can see why people would be upset but its misdirected. Every year we have to put up with protests on Australia day because of something that happened well over 200 years ago
sage tendon
its just dumb, move on or something
staying the past will make the past stay as well
pearl elk
Theres not even many people alive today directly related to those back then, so we get blamed simply for being born here
Im all for giving people a leg up, promoting equity n all that but the blood feud needs to die
then everyone gets what they want, Aboriginals can mourn, we can celebrate and we can all be Australians
sage tendon
Imho, there should be a law that forbids people from speaking about racism, simple as that
pearl elk
They will never get rid of the whites from this country no matter how bad they want it
sage tendon
Racisms problem isnt racism anymore, its the void of racism that activists keep filling with racism
you cant fight racism while saying "You whites...."
pearl elk
They gotta stop feeding this bullshit that reverse racism isnt a thing
sage tendon
take away the racism card and see whats left of their argument (its none)
pearl elk
I get discriminated against because of the colour of my skin every Australia day like I said. Im not related to anyone who hurt any Aboriginals
It sucks it happened, Id do my best to help now but whats done is done
sage tendon
several years ago someone wanted something from me and to get my attention he called "Ey, hollander!"
which was very weird to me, as he was speaking dutch, being a passport holder, effecitly being dutch as well
i will never forget that
sage tendon
its a mentality position that those people take and use it to remain distant
why the hell are you moving to a country if you're not planning to intergrate, what was the motivation or reason to migrate?
it just so weird...
pearl elk
Yeah we get that here too and honestly that causes problems because people bring beef from other countries here and then it plays out on our streets
sage tendon
thats correct
we had pim fortuyn, a politician that was murdered in 2002
he said that
"we should stop immigration as they're brining their problems to our country. It will hurt our civilization"
pearl elk
worst racist rant Ive seen was actually by an Aboriginal women abusing a African woman on the bus, boy did she rip into her over being black
sage tendon
this week, due to those stupid protests, his statue got graffiti saying "RACIST"
with the regards of "Black lives matters"
the guy is dead, he fought for his country
how is that racist?
pearl elk
Im not really against immigration as I wouldnt be in Australia without it but it sure needs to changed so that people do integrate better or by better selecting people who will integrate.
pearl elk
I understand people dont want to stay in a war torn country but some never make an effort, they only come here for the good conditions not because they want to be a part of the culture.
A country is more than a plot of land, thats what the Aboriginals never understood, they wernt a sovereign nation as much as they claim to be
Some of the far northern tribes couldnt even communicate with the southern tribes because they spoke different languages
sage tendon
People forget that when they have it good, how it used to be
Biggest example is in Africa where the white farmers were butchered, resulting in a hunger period because there werent enough left that know how to farm...
pearl elk
I mean the main one everyone misses, we call the Aboriginals the traditional owners of the land but the word Aboriginal refers to any indigenous people, their people have many names for the different tribes like Native Americans. They dont even have their own name for Australia, there was no self awareness of a nation
I consider this agenda to be racist and not equitable, it doesnt help Australians at all but it does keep us divided similar to the US
sage tendon
Hopefully the alien invasions comes soon, forcing everyone to understand that we're all part of mankind
pearl elk
Yeah thatd be awesome but no doubt the US will want to fight all on their own Hollywood style ๐
sage tendon
Trump already wants a Space Force ๐
sage tendon
corona is still for many people a unseen thing, so natrually they'll just ignore it (like the west acted any different while Syrie was taken by ISIS)
but the alien invasion will be noticable for everyone ๐
UFO's everywhere etc
huge tripods making weird dubstep sounds
pearl elk
One thing I actually found out over the past few days is that the US doesnt recognize the ICC (court not the cricket)
sage tendon
I hope they will find a fix for bacteria, because how to did it in "War of Worlds" was just pathetic
Trump is pulling out of a lot of things that he shouldnt pull out of
its not like they are just another model hes banging
pearl elk
lol thats what she said
plus his wifey aint a model shes just KGB regular
best soviet snipers always been women