@young iris just never did what i wanted, i want to build Aggro values for the AI
#lounge
dense storm
that system was just more of a pain, and it actually is cheaper (CPU wise) to use my own system
100 AI with perception was costing around .8ms
my system uses .3ms
which makes a lot of difference
sage tendon
@dim ruin isnt Fuse beta?
dim ruin
its been beta since inception
adobe killed it though. final update will kill it later this year. september I think
sage tendon
Will kill it?
dim ruin
discontinue, drop support, prevent future downloads
adobe acquired it a few years back and left it and mixamo both in limbo. mixamo will continue in a more limited form, fuse wont
so if you use it for your workflow, get 'er done lol
mixamo should be keeping its auto-rigger though. no promises but it should be
mint onyx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cgN5pLG8Rs
The mannequin is the best part ๐
raw rose
dim ruin
it seems as though he's surprised by copy/paste support emails
solar nebula
Never trust large corporations
YouTube has sadly consistently refused to act on these kinda matters
dim ruin
thats pretty pathetic. it would be a very easy thing to prevent
solar nebula
It is not easy from corporate point of view
You just need to hire a hundred extra people for adding some human eyes into this process
That's like, super hard and you should be ashamed of suggesting corporate waste resources like that. Instead, how about a more productive and useful pool for C-level executives?
dim ruin
- only confirmed accounts with 2-factor authentication can make reports of dmca etc
- add a damn current gen captcha.
solved
that way, reporters can be help liable and acted upon
solar nebula
This is not something that will be solved fully automatically
dim ruin
it could be. literally exactly as above
solar nebula
The root of the problem is lack of humans in the process more so than the details of the procedure (but yes, good suggestions)
It's literally no deal at all to automatically solve captchas if you don't need them solved en-masse
You pay to a mechanical turk sorta website and they'll crank out plenty captchas of you in semi-automatic mode
And 2-factor auth can also be circumvented
Ultimately, human eyes and human minds must analyze the problem
dim ruin
a person could still go through the motions with the above refactoring but the reporter could be held liable and blocked. it would be a great deal of work to repeatedly circumvent
and thats where algos and human review come in
it is odd that google wouldn't even attempt to address the issue though
solar nebula
I'm sure they have made an attempt and made a decision that from their point of view seemed reasonable and justified
dim ruin
lol
solar nebula
Really, I doubt people who run YouTube are not making the best decisions in the framework of what they are presented with and what they see as an impact of their decisions
The problem is that they live in a different world than you or me so they are solving different problems ๐
dim ruin
I honestly think we need more white knight hackers out there and more sites/services to adopt a "gray area" approach to security that borders on malicious.
solar nebula
What we need is more little businesses popping up and helping their local communities
So hosting your own videos would be a more realistic task without going to the big guys
dim ruin
When I was doing some authentication system work years ago I had a system that (was never deployed for obvious reasons) would determine if an attempt against the system was blatantly intentional and would give you one warning, then it would start to toss your system's salad pretty aggressively lol
liability was the obvious concern but god damn would it have been effective
a user should be fair game though if they're doing clearly malicious activity.
dim ruin
but yeah, fuck the bad guys. โ
dim ruin
what does it look like?
solar nebula
What is even water
Have you ever actually seen water
How could you even believe in water
north torrent
Yes.
fathom wadi
4am is just not the right time to wake up in the day. FML
When I was doing some authentication system work years ago I had a system that (was never deployed for obvious reasons) would determine if an attempt against the system was blatantly intentional and would give you one warning, then it would start to toss your system's salad pretty aggressively lol
@dim ruin This is part of how Metasploit was used early on. Rather than pen-test your own computers, as it does now, you could use it to sit on a firewall server and listen to aggressive exploits that it already knew about. If it caught one, it would use different pen-test results to fuck the other computer. But I think they moved away from that to make some industry money out of it, rather than be the cause of a million lawsuits.
pearl elk
On the note of blackmail emails, Ive noticed that the Epic email leak has lead to people impersonating UE4 affiliates lately so just be careful checking what your receive
fluid bloom
any juicy UE 5 news?
gleaming hill
@fluid bloom I just want to beta test lumen ๐
zinc matrix
curve. i subdivided between 2 vertices and now i can't make smooth turns and curves. normally if i create a new spline it makes nice smooth curve
https://i.redd.it/dsifdb3es6151.png
fluid bloom
add more geo
zinc matrix
eaeaeae
gilded vigil
play it and see what do you think its missing
north torrent
Well, it looks like Twitter is going to be shut down.
tulip orbit
@north torrent ?
north torrent
They angered the authoritarian overlord.
zinc matrix
show link
north torrent
You aren't my real dad, I don't have to do what you say!
tulip orbit
I dont recall twitter angering me
north torrent
Vodka tends to make people forget.
tulip orbit
thats why I stick to rubbing alchohol
north torrent
Good idea.
zinc matrix
damn
UT discord has phone verification
ngl that was my first attempt at making armor https://i.imgur.com/NFAGySp.png
old but GOLD
this my second https://i.imgur.com/eqNeUnr.png
eaeaeae
snow goblet
Whats this for?
zinc matrix
armor?
north torrent
Why would a game get an 8gb update but nowhere on the internet it lists anything about said patch/update...
Is 8gb so irrelevant anymore that it isn't even worth a note on the developers website?
2020 is so odd...
soft night
2020 when Astronauts are sent from US soil again
north torrent
Well they have to do it in 2020, because there won't be US soil soon if things keep going as they are.
north torrent
RIP United States of America 1776 - 2020
Cause of death, lack of urgency.
zinc matrix
bro
made stats https://i.imgur.com/siGiAIW.png
isnt it sick
nah im not good at UI visual wise xd
my achilles feet
north torrent
Or you could just get good, Mr. Ponkkis.
zinc matrix
nah man i dont have time for that
north torrent
Wasn't talking to you.
north torrent
Never am.
zinc matrix
never ur
soft night
https://twitch.tv/nasa spaceX launching nasa astronauts to spaceee
zinc matrix
why
where they go
mars?
WOMEN go to mars..
Nice
a long and boring journey
dont know that planet
north torrent
This is just the first step.
Capitalism in the space race, now that is something I can get behind.
Capitalism with healthcare... no... very much no.
zinc matrix
ngl ISS cockpit is weird https://www.bingwallpaperhd.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/CupolaISS.jpg
you have that ultra thick glass there..
and just watch..
earth..
north torrent
zinc matrix
i think trash should go to space.. maybe newbactery type would form on it..
zinc matrix
nice
which means this one is dangerous
THEYRE beta TESTERS..
but if u die..
u die forever
north torrent
Better up in space on the tip of a rocket than down on Earth getting corona-virus.
zinc matrix
maybe one of them has corona
and now th corona is in space
and will give birth to aliens
tulip orbit
I should have made more coffee. Trying to decide on how my character stats are gonna work...
zinc matrix
me too my man
north torrent
4
zinc matrix
but very lazy..
mossy nexus
is that .25 @north torrent
north torrent
1/4
zinc matrix
It seems that all free sms sites are banned in discord. I can't use any number to verify account
NGl statistics are the worst thing in rpg game
tomake
ill never finish it ๐ฎ
zinc matrix
@tulip orbit site diagrams.net is good for stats planning https://i.imgur.com/QtsQEzj.png
tulip orbit
I'm calculating the formula for damage in a spreadsheet, and just planning things on paper
zinc matrix
lol
nice
i have too many stats
so i need to use such diagram tools :Dl ol
but i aint no making simple game...
tulip orbit
well once I start getting into the skill tree, I may need such tools
I'm still planning base stats atm
viral vector
plucky pagoda
anyone have any recommendations for a hotkey/macro pad like this? https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Stream-Deck-Controller-customizable/dp/B07RL8H55Z
fluid bloom
it bothers me that Helan Gรฅr plays in Civilization 6 if Sweden is in the game
that song makes me want to drink
north torrent
What doesn't make you want to drink?
tulip orbit
Needing to pee and being 5 min away from home
rugged storm
i'm on fiverr looking at unreal engine gigs
and 1 of them i found uses an image from a youtube video
and the other one is from that free map on the marketplace
this one is that scans one
tough sierra
I just realized a major downfall for a non tick based physics system.
It's hard as fuck to multithread.
And you really don't need advanced stepping techniques with most 2D games.
You should be able to simulate most bodies with all cores, go back and update the spatial hash table with all cores, then collision detection with all cores, then resolution with all cores assuming you have copied data to work with, re update the spatial hash table again, then your done.
The trick is to make it where you allow each thread to work with the same data, you just avoid updating anything till that phase is done.
sage tendon
Why is it hard as fuck to multithread?
tough sierra
I'm not experienced too much with it, but one major issue, is when you are writing to data that another thread needs to read.
You don't know if the update happened on time or not.
Having the same data read by multiple threads is perfectly ok though.
Having multiple threads writing to the same data also sucks badly, i'm not sure if that applies to increments; though even if not that's platform dependent.
Since for desktop cpu's there's a special cpu instruction that literally says "add 1 to this address"
You don't have to fetch, then resend.
tough sierra
I can't believe anyone would want to draw that much attention.
sage tendon
7 billion people, you name it, its there
rugged storm
so i just got my first visa card
how would I pay using it on epic games store
just as a credit card
or add it to paypal
zinc matrix
s.a..t.a.n
plucky pagoda
I haven't played last of us yet but part 2 looks awesome
The UI looks really well done. Clean, minimal and easy to use
deep glen
@viral vector as long as the waterlevel-police doesnt check it, its level enough for a house build on a dike
plucky pagoda
I love stealth gameplay. I think this is one I'm getting release day.
rugged storm
nvm got it
dim ruin
@plucky pagoda At first glance I thought that UI comment was for the meme lol
plucky pagoda
lol
zinc matrix
poofiepoofieppepeee
dim ruin
covfefe?
zinc matrix
fefefepi
old gazelle
Is epic having server trouble again? It says no to what I'm pretty sure is my password today as well, and they don't send password reset mails.
tulip orbit
too extreme ;p
azure chasm
Lmao
Ill be able to study those effects a bit more come hurricane season
Hopefully not like the video
Does sound like a cool concept
Are quaternions basically like a euler( 3 angle rotation) but with the ability to change the position of the root?
The more i read about it the more confused i get
tulip orbit
I tried looking at those and my brain blew up
plucky pagoda
Most of the math functions dealing with rotations use quaternions internally.
"When composing several rotations on a computer, rounding errors necessarily accumulate. A quaternion that is slightly off still represents a rotation after being normalised: a matrix that is slightly off may not be orthogonal any more and is harder to convert back to a proper orthogonal matrix.
Quaternions also avoid a phenomenon called gimbal lock which can result when, for example in pitch/yaw/roll rotational systems, the pitch is rotated 90ยฐ up or down, so that yaw and roll then correspond to the same motion, and a degree of freedom of rotation is lost. In a gimbal-based aerospace inertial navigation system, for instance, this could have disastrous results if the aircraft is in a steep dive or ascent. "
The other page on that wiki you linked has a better description.
The part under Definition on this page seems like a pretty good overview to me: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Quaternion
mild root
understanding quaternions, in context of angles and rotation, is quite simple. you just set rotation axis with three numbers, and use 4th number to rotate
in the context inside engine
plucky pagoda
I look up a formula when I need it, other than that let the math libraries do the heavy thinking for me.
mild root
when I tried to read wikipedia, it gave me something about math, very complex
much better
solar nebula
@mild root yeah, a quaternion is a representation of an axis of rotation and an angle around it, though not literally numerically equal to that
That's a good way to understand them, also just to think of quaternions as abstract representation of "attitude" in which object might be
tulip orbit
that object has a bad attitude.
zinc matrix
Damn
My laptops repairing hdd
Loud process
I hope neighbours don't hear it cus 2am
https://i.imgur.com/7dzV8Zq.png enjoy the image.
if i bend my right leg more than 90ยฐ i feel pain somewhere at the hip. i can bend left leg more than my right leg.
young osprey
heyooo
solar nebula
Solution: amputate the leg
young osprey
gah, I guess I should get off my rump and go start prototyping, no point in avoiding it anymore
zinc matrix
jovial talon
^ that video is so cool
abstract haven
@azure chasm https://eater.net/quaternions
quats ar eprety confusing, I havent used them much but there are BP functions to test them with now
long story short is the 4 numbers are not independent of each other, and the sum of their squares equals one, you define a direction in space and how to rotate around it
red quest
this is craaazy. sorry if repost. https://twitter.com/MartinNebelong/status/1261224409014157312?s=20
pearl elk
Way I always though of Quaternions is a higher order rotation cast to 3 dimensional space
tough sierra
Incase anyone here knows asm and likes to play with micro optimizations, i discovered this one years ago.
I should do a test3 which is more like test1 but just loop unrolled a bit, where you'd grab more with al instead of using eax with the ror tricks.
But so far on this cpu test1 completes in 1.7 seconds, where as test2 completes in 1
This folks, is why reading a large buffer by smaller data amounts at a time is generally not most efficient. It's better to loop unroll in some way, i always used uint32_t then would cast into uint8_t array or such, but maybe one could just grab multiple times per loop at different locations instead.
Also it's note worthy to realize something, it optimally takes about one second to iterate an entire GB of data, and we are to work with 60 frames of data a second, processing who knows how much data per frame.
That's best case, 16MB of data being processed per thread each frame.
That's also assuming no excessive indirection, and other problems that come with OOP style programming.
feral kite
is 500W of PSU sufficient for a mini ATX, G4560, 1050ti 4GB, 3 sticks of ram, 2 HDD and 1 CD drive?
idk just asking here because nowhere else will answer
carmine frigate
sounds good, never hurts to go over tho
who uses CDs?
if a psu runs at full it wil waste more on heat, if u have just enough any kind of dip or spike wil be noticable
also higher psu wil prolly have more cables
so if u add all components power drawn and go just a tad above that ur not doin it right
PSUs are kinda cheap
feral kite
@carmine frigate i bought a sata CD drive because my house didnt have one and i needed to install office and some other stuff
btw im asking because the socket on my psu is fucked (cable melted onto it)
is the socket replaceable
feral kite
@carmine frigate ah ok
i saw some screws beside it and thought maybe that one was designed to be swapped out
carmine frigate
not something i recommend
feral kite
not melting psus the cable melted
idk if its a poor connection or sth
carmine frigate
those things can kill you even when unplugged
north torrent
The 1050ti doesn't use hardly any power at all, that the real upside to the 50 series, you can throw them in almost any PC and not have to upgrade the PSU.
feral kite
ah ok ill just get a new one then
about how much is a 500W? just those grey box types with 20 wires hanging off of it i dont need anything fancy
north torrent
Depends on what country you are in... Here in China about 60rmb...
Which is less than $10 usd...
Not sure I would trust it though...
feral kite
@north torrent eh im in malaysia so ive been seeing like 50-80 RM (15-20US?)
i thought the prices online were bullshitting apparently not
north torrent
If you aren't looking for quality you can find them for cheap...
That being said, I paid about $120 for the psu for my computer.
If I'm going to spend $1,500 on a computer I'm not going to cheap out on the psu...
carmine frigate
yea i would never go under 50$ but im in europe
north torrent
I always buy small form factor power supplies, and it needs to be modular. Don't want my case looking bad.
And I only buy something platinum rated or better if I am going to be using it with my good hardware.
feral kite
prces of pc parts is higher in europe i think
my pc case is opaque so i dont care abt tidy cables as long as its not scraping fans lol
north torrent
Even if I can't see it, knowing that my stuff isn't optimal and clean bothers me.
carmine frigate
any ways dont repair stuff with high voltage capacitors unless ur a trained professional and have the tools for it
feral kite
alright that makes sense
seems like the socket pin it self is fine just had a little plastic melted onto it
trying to clean it with rice vinegar now
also some rust looking shit
carmine frigate
if it looks like rust, smells like rust and tastes like rust
you prolly shouldnt put rust in ur mouth ๐
zinc matrix
https://pcper.com/2008/03/john-carmack-on-id-tech-6-ray-tracing-consoles-physics-and-more/ sparse voxel octree. Is that how UE5 reaches triangles per pixel?
sage tendon
had something to do with the ssd tech from sony or something
zinc matrix
doesn't cryengine has the same svo gi?
tidal ivy
it was virtualised geometry, likely packed into texture like format for dynamic LODs. The SSD was just a place to stream data from
zinc matrix
voxel octree is a format for storing? you still model in 3D with triangles?
tulip orbit
I reconstructed it at my house
pearl elk
but youre meant to eat the beans then splash the warm water on your face
north torrent
Shove the beans up your nose and take a hot shower.
north torrent
Hot beans...
sage tendon
Grind the beans and inject it directly in to the veins
rain steppe
Who is stronger John Carmack, Cevat Yerli or Tim Sweeney?
sage tendon
Stronger in what?
rain steppe
Coding and something else?
real palm
Chuck Norris
sage tendon
I dont think you cant really compair it without setting proper criteria first
For strongest impact on the world I would say Carmack
pearl elk
Chuck Norris has a special sidekicking keyboard
but Im the real Slim Shader ๐ฎ
Hi kids, do you like violence?
north torrent
Revolution!
pearl elk
Not sure it works that way
Where do they fab most of the processors?
Rayguns pew pew
but you only get power in the range of a 5g tower
north torrent
I'm watching the new Niagara video.
pearl elk
Is that the 4.25 one now with bad internet? lol
rich quiver
there 4.0 beta and 4.0 release both way different form each other
solid aurora
ue5 models are actually packed into very advanced data strcture ..
called 2d texture
zinc matrix
I'll have to buy a pre paid chip to activate my discord
sage tendon
UT?
zinc matrix
unreal tournament
carmine frigate
i played a game of UT not too long ago
still had a bunch of servers running
but ur mod better be damn good if u want to have a lot of ppl payin it ๐
its more easy to make a popular mod on a popular game i think
the game isnt that bad tho, still had fun for 30 min
would have played quake live if it was still running in the browser ๐
but if u mod shootergame u can claim ownership
zinc matrix
I"m more interesting in env art part
dim ruin
The epic launcher is really fucking aggressive during updates lol
sage tendon
Tell it to calm down
Also give compliments, like how nice its shoes are, it will become more friendly then
chilly igloo
Generally make it just for fun. Still dont get how to make video which are dark the way youtube will not make some 2000s video quality look ๐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhCFvjrJ_U&feature=youtu.be
bronze axle
Todayโs lunch: mini Bahn Mi sandwiches. I call them Bahn Minis.
fathom wadi
fun fun fun on the eaten bahn.
plucky pagoda
I should have learned my lesson by now with these asset stores. Also if you're selling a UI and the description necessitates a statement that you should own photoshop before buying it perhaps consider it's maybe not quite ready to be up for sale.
fathom wadi
wouldn't any art app work?
It probably has the ability to switch textures for buttons and things, so you would need one
quiet narwhal
Anyone here have a 3900x or 3950x and have done a recent compile of the source for UE4?
plucky pagoda
No, the exported UI files are ultra low rez but he included smart objects in a convoluted poorly organized psd files than can be painfully converted to somewhat usable images
plucky pagoda
I'll dm, not looking to publicly berate someone
fathom wadi
did they use it to do stuff like sliced imports so you can layout in PSD and just export/import over?
hollow harness
Creating custom 3d models and rigging them to the UE4 skeleton message me if interested.
plucky pagoda
No. It's really poorly done. sucks cause it looks good. I'm looking for some images to slap in to something though and not wanting to spend a day exporting hard to find files in a bloated psd
I'll just buy another one from someone else
fathom wadi
ahh I used to stuff like that with websites. I figured you could do the same setup for game UI. I mean, I know you could do it, but I dunno if I would
plucky pagoda
I've made my own UI's in photoshop in the past. You can set everything up to make it really easy to export with a script at whatever size you want.
fathom wadi
done it with UMG as the end result though?
plucky pagoda
Probably.
fathom wadi
I bet theres some python magic could be done to make it livelinked
plucky pagoda
oh, you mean like working directly? I meant importing a set of images and slapping them into a ui setup.
Maybe, but it's not hard to change a few image references in the base UMG class.
I should have read the reviews. Just doing too many things. There's one where he actually starts to argue with a dev over not needing to fix the resolution.
fathom wadi
yeah I meant fully auto. So you have the sliced setup in PSD updating (almost) live in the game UI. It brings me to a concept of the UMG Content Management System I attempted some years ago. I wanted all-in-one game UI menu that was fully customisable with a bunch of other admin type tools. External links to PSD etc. But I got halfway through and realised that UMG needs to keep it's modularity and my method had broken that rule.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I'm sure there's a better way than how I use to do it. I did it with layers, groupings and a script that would export things.
fathom wadi
yeah same
plucky pagoda
there's a lot more ways to do it now
I'm cleaning up that sidescroller and building a small demo to try and get it on xbox. I'm just looking for a semi decent set of UI images to slap into my menus
fathom wadi
you know what would be super fucking cool? Live link Grease Pencil from Blender into the viewport. There are enough tools in 4.25 to do it. I want to see some more 2d stuff for UE4/5 but im not sure it gets the love. Even though I see tonnes of 2d games, even pseudo 2.5d in UE
plucky pagoda
I'd love to see a set of shaders and lights ready to go for 2d lighting.
fathom wadi
a good cross-compiler for shaders between Blender->UE wouldn't go amiss
plucky pagoda
I'm not sure whether to go with a more cartoonish UI or something more serious dark rpg in style
fathom wadi
I have a great to know which art style im going for. I look at my free assets and think to myself "they probably wont notice anyway"
it gives me an idea though for a new genre. Art smash. A game made of entirely variable art asset styles. The game has to find a way to make it work.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I've been looking through all the asset libraries and found a few that are close. I'm just hoping spending a few bucks might save me an afternoon
it's looking like this right now. I need to skin menus though
You think this would fit ?
or something closer to this:
fathom wadi
I mean, its clean and simple. I think the second one is better but perhaps with more game-style in the colouring. I got a prince of persia vibe from it so something middle eastern or of that nature would be a nice effect
plucky pagoda
yeah, I'm a bit on the fence but leaning that way too. The second artist has a bunch that say they're exported for 4k
fathom wadi
the second one actually has a confusing section on the top menu. I wouldn't put the play button there. I'd shift it to the first position. In it's current state it prefers the mouse as an interface. But you have to follow controller rules, even on PC these days.
plucky pagoda
Oh, yeah. I wouldn't use any of their layouts.
Just the images.
yeah, thanks. I would have seconded guessed myself.
I'm loving this new keyboard
plucky pagoda
Nice. The artist from that UI I bought replied to my message and offered to fix the issues and provide exports suitable for 4k.
I'm still going to use another asset, but I can at least give it a good review now.
zinc matrix
Leon invites Max to his flat. What Max doesn't know, the whole house is full with vegan ghosts which won't let him leave the building if he doesn't become a vegan.
zinc matrix
e
i bought ssd
but now have to wait
4 days
till it comes
WHAT DO I DO!!!
with my broken hdd, my pc slow af
using it makes no sense my man
tough sierra
I kind of wish more devs tested code on HDDs.
Timings are.
test1: 1.68s
test2: 1.0s
test3: 1.93s
test4: 0.95s
That prefetch almost did nothing, had to use it where it grabbed data ahead of time for the next loop iteration.
Then it helped bring it from 1s to 0.95s
Basically to anyone who continues to assume that reading a large buffer of byte elements as chars instead of using ints then casting to chars arrays, this should make you question your assumption a bit.
zinc matrix
A man was walking and saw several cute pigs. He melted away because he thought it was so cute. 5 hours later he ate exactly what he had previously christened cute without inhibitions.
YESSS!!!
ancient hornet
isn't most time spent reading memory in the cache miss anyway?
tough sierra
For this example yes.
Hence the prefetch test.
Yet.
Test2 obviously is way worse than the other tests.
Yet it does the same thing, just the more amature way.
Literally a difference of 1.68 to 1
Nearly .7 seconds shaved off.
I've always noticed that reading per byte from a buffer like that has issues.
I suspect it's multiple reasons.
One is that your reading from an address more often, that bloats instruction size considerably, might thrash the instruction pipeline, and causes you to search the cache more often.
I would say that loop unrolling helped as well but as you can see from test3 that's not exactly the case.
ror instructions are pretty small.
Another thing to consider, your not just dealing with raw addresses, i'm "guessing" that even if your data is in cache, your dealing with virtual address indirection. Using raw registers bypasses this.
If you do tests you'll also find that for some weird reason.
Reading into a 4 byte register is actually faster than a one byte register.
Even if your reusing the same data, though that was with a older cpu, and my memory may be incorrect.
Sorry corrected to faster not slower.
For reasons that still escape me.
It's for sure faster to read a buffer of 1GB instead of 4GB in any case regardless sure.
Allow me to write up a C program to do some more interesting tests, if I can find that one website which shows you the disassembly.
rugged storm
frick
i had a pop can next to my ear
and it popped out the dent
and now all i hear is ringing in my left ear
tough sierra
Try firing a shotgun a little too close to your ear.
rugged storm
it's too loud
tough sierra
Seriously though firearms are a lot louder than videogames would have you believe, as for one there is no such thing as a silencer that actually makes the noise unnoticeable, unless you count that one weird ass pistol from ww2 but it only had a few shots of use before that wore off and it sounded loud.
And I think the noise range was 6 feet.
Actually pretty impressive.
hard haven
The price on this AMD Ryzen 9 3900X is insane. Anyone rocking the 3900x and compiling UE4 things?
tough sierra
I know someone that's using a cpu from that ryzen series, but not that exact one, they used to be so much cheaper at the beginning of carona, then trump bux came.
My cpu is shitty compared to what you listed but it's still compiling things pretty tolerably now, upgraded to an 8 core that uses like 125w, some black vishera 8 core. DDR3 gen and not the best 8 core of that gen.
I'd get someone else to give input, but that cpu should blow through the work in no time, the engine is meant for multithreading (when compiling shaders/lights or code).
hard haven
i7-8565U quad core in the laptop takes a minute to compile... Thinking about building a new itx desktop, and slapping that 12 core in there. Plus I want more ram too 16GB is rough.
tough sierra
I miss the days when 8GB was enough.
tough sierra
Oof you all and your high res textures ๐
Though with how things are heading, you'll for sure want more cores eventually.
Nothing else, look for cpu's and compare performance per dollar, there's websites that rate them, when things settle there should be bargain cpu's again.
hard haven
Can't afford a threadripper. haha
tough sierra
Using a performance rating system is your best way to know what to get, trumps speculation, i've found that a modern quad core kicks my 8 core's ass.
hard haven
I think the 3950x 16 core at about $700 is pretty good, but 12 core for $400 sounds like the better bang for the buck.
tough sierra
For sure, you can get 8 core cpu's for like 100$ if you look long enough.
hard haven
True, I will start looking at the graphs.
tough sierra
Assuming this wasn't in carona dimension.
Old server cpu's that get replaced, I hear is a really good place to look for bang per buck.
hard haven
True. All things are whack right now. Maybe its a better time to sell off my old stuff and hold out until the manufacturing world returns.
tough sierra
Depends on goals and all that ^-^
Am not the best to ask about it, the programming channel would very likely know.
C++ programmers tend to be picky about their hardware.
Especially graphics programmers or engine programmers.
hard haven
I have an i7 7700k sitting new in a box, but I don't want to build something new on that socket.
If I have to buy a new mobo, memory, the whole thing, then the i7 is a no go for me.
tough sierra
I would say to ask in chili tomato's discord, he's got a good community and they are all pretty amazing at picking out good hardware.
hard haven
It was for a fun project that will still be just as fun with the i5 it was goign to replace... haha
tough sierra
Oh man i avoided using this new build for years, cause it wouldn't read hard disks.
Turns out I used the wrong cord from the psu to the mobo
Now it's old news ;-;
light osprey
hi
tough sierra
Hiya
tough sierra
Holy shit turning on optimizations does wonders, mingw GCC did roughly what i did but better using multiple registers, then anding them together.
So instead of using al you'd use eax, and ebx, and ecx, and and the results together.
I think.
soft night
going for Mixed reality headsets was it AR or VR launch in VR app is cool
tough sierra
Oof nvm i misread it or the code change I did changed the assembly.
dense atlas
Is it worth being concerned about supporting HDR? How do you test without breaking the bank? The prices on displays (especially with high refresh/resolution) are still outlandish.
I could use another display, 1080p is fine. 144hz is minimum I'd consider an upgrade. Not looking to pay much more than $300 though.
The fraction of gamers with $1000+ displays must be tiny I'd assume, some metrics would help. Maybe I'll see if they track that on Steam survey.
tough sierra
So i just tested, I beat the C compiler actually, i was measuring the function instead of the whole program.
dense atlas
I don't think they do, especially not specifics on luminance.
tough sierra
Good questions am also curious ^-^
dense atlas
Regarding CPUs I still have no burning desire to upgrade from R1700.
Thinking when next TR comes out I could consider a second hand 24 core.
It'd be nice, not worth the money the setup's going for. I'd rather just watch progress bars.
If you're not video editing it's a overkill. No problems with UE4 since upgrade.
thorny dock
never played a civ game before, I grew up on age of empires 2. really happy EGS gave civ 6 it out for free, loving the game, incredible job with the AI for this game
dense atlas
The tutorial sent me to sleep, couldn't even figure out how to skip/uit.
thorny dock
for a complicated strategy game I think it was really easy to pick up and play, I never did a tutorial just hoped right into playing a match
nice will definitely check out rome lol
tough sierra
Same but I had experience with a much older game. After fumbling for a couple hours you get the hang of it.
dense atlas
I'd need more free time to consider getting into it. Doesn't seem like something to just sit down with for 1hr.
tough sierra
Rome has super strong expansion potential early game, if you hit that hard, you end up with endgame advantage cause more cities = more power.
Ah definitely longer than one hour, though you can digest it bits at a time with a save.
dense atlas
Do you actually progress through time? Like start in past and end up in space?
tough sierra
With all the games, the way to easily dominate goes about this way, expand quickly early and mid game, get your science up after, get tanks before anyone else, then slap every one else around.
Yup.
Though you don't actually colonize in space.
That's just a victory condition.
dense atlas
I was thrown into some Spanish armada setup.
When I try it again hoping I can start earlier.
tough sierra
This game punishes you hard for fighting wars, a lot more so than the earlier one I tried. Till your late game and are very technologically ahead of everyone else.
tough sierra
Huh was wanting to try that one.
dense atlas
I liked the setting, should have just been primitive weapons and ninjas.
Ninja ambushes were great in concept, bad in practise.
Sucked the fun out of the thing.
tough sierra
Ever played an oooooold ame called camuri warriors?
It was on the ps2
I think they did at least one more for the series.
dense atlas
I think so actually.
tough sierra
I think it had an amazing concept, and looking back i can't believe they optimized it that well on such old hardware.
dense atlas
I love anything in that setting, certainly way more Tenchu.
tough sierra
You'd fight as a historical figure in mythically altered events, and fight in famous battles against enemy armies with your own. But you could do things like kill off reserve captains to take control of an area.
It was third person, not rts in any technical sense really.
But.
I think it was an amazing concept and almost felt like an rts.
Oh and I think if you killed off generals you'd make their armies retreat.
dense atlas
No, didn't play that one. It does look impressive.
tough sierra
It was a bit of a hidden gem for it's time I think.
Hundreds of units on screen potentially.
On a flipping ps2
And looking back, it felt a lot like they had DOD techniques used to make it, cause when there'd be enough lag troops on all sides would attack less often "i think"
dense atlas
The camera angle makes hiding the really short clipping distance passable.
tough sierra
True ^-^
Getting even that much in ue4 with having an AActor per game object wouldn't pass.
No way in hell.
I complain a bit much about all that, but I hope that somehow the tension trickles toward them enough that they eventually get rid of the OOP forced abstractions to the new engine, or at least allow an alternative like what unity has.
dense atlas
Clearly some heavy optimisation at work.
tough sierra
I know right?
I love that about older games, they had beautiful work put into them from an engineering perspective.
dense atlas
Koei was more low level arcade machine roots if I remember, like programmers who understood circuit boards.
Might have designed a few themselves even.
tough sierra
Yeah supposedly they often came from the embedded programming domain.
Fuck though somehow carmack put together some wonderful works while being hella young. I wonder what kind of resources he'd have back then, the internet wasn't as developed back then for sure.
tough sierra
BBS being the boards where people would casually communicate?
dense atlas
Like Usenet.
I used to use that.
I got a modem pretty late in the game by some standards.
Still way ahead of anyone I knew.
tough sierra
Yup those old boards, you'd need to know the IP in order to find them.
And I hear that you'd sometimes see them link to other boards.
dense atlas
๐คทโโ๏ธ Had to wait for my parents to accept buying it. ๐
tough sierra
I kind of wish I was there >.<
dense atlas
I didn't have a job/income yet.
tough sierra
Engineering looks so interesting from that time frame.
Ah hell only recently did I actually get a job ๐ Am legally blind so have all the time in the world, and don't seem as productive as the older giants.
dense atlas
Yeah, lot of opportunity back then, was all uncharted.
tough sierra
Maybe the excitement is what drove people.
dense atlas
If I had been a bit older/ had income might have been one of the internet tycoons. ๐
By the time I was making websites there wa already Dreamweaver.
tough sierra
Ah dang.
dense atlas
Halcyon days.
tough sierra
There's so many ways to communicate now that I lost passion to take web dev serious.
dense atlas
I'm glad I didn't get into that. I do physical electronic stuff where you go places and connect wires.
I think that stuff is getting harder to get established with, even as fullstack.
tough sierra
It seems to pay a lot but no clue.
Though.
The common libs used change all the time.
The api's are soooooo fucking abstract and change all the time.
With no real way to debug it.
At first I thought js devs were newbs.
Now I think that web devs probably deserve the money they get.
dense atlas
The stuff I use is totally abstract and opinionated, whatever, just takes a long time to fight it and send them the bill for my time. ๐
I stopped caring long ago, why UE4 dev is fun in comparison.
The abstractions and legacy stuff in UE4 is at least made by competent software engineers.
I'm not constantly screaming "Why?"
tough sierra
Oof
And I thought ue4 was annoying.
I could at least technically get around it with a week or two of work.
Most of it.
dense atlas
Use some software made for mechanical engineers...
tough sierra
Ah probably a lot of custom software that makes a lot of bad assumptions i'm guessing.
dense atlas
Closed source, but hey at least it's Java, can always decompile. ๐
dense atlas
The editor is another story though...
tough sierra
Editor?
dense atlas
The software I use for work has a WIndows editor you do all the work in, including UI. The modules that form the framework are in Java.
I'm trying to convince them to use a third party tool that is more typical HTML stuff for UI, but they're like how will the other engineers understand what you've done if it's non standard. ๐
That sort of thing.
It pays my marketplace bill. ๐ Mostly just picked up Allright rig, finally.
Sick of fighting with Blender.
tough sierra
Not kept up with the changes they've done for blender.
If you mean the keybinds, they are hella hard, but pretty nice once you get used to em.
That and the weird UI.
Kinda sucks for me since my middle mouse button doesn't work.
The scroll wheel does but not the push button part of it.
dense atlas
I mean skeletal animation. I love Blender.
I hate FBX.
you can change the scroll wheel in preferences, it's "emulate 3 button mouse" you use alt.
One of the first things I change.
rugged storm
spare glade
Anyone know why Entrian Source Search isnt available in VS while your debugging?
rugged storm
bruh thank goodness for alarm system thing
the alarm is off
but when the door is opened it makes this sound
and it went off a couple minutes ago
i go to the back door
and it's open
a little bit
and those little flood light things are on
didn't see anyone outside though
spare glade
I really wish Epics stuff would stop bloody signing me out all the time.
Sick of having to login everytime i open a webpage of theirs or open the damn launcher...
fluid bloom
same
it signs you out if you log in on a different device
like, I sign on my work laptop -> desktop signgs out
sign in with my desktop and my laptop signs out
thorny dock
an android store? like the amazon appstore apk? thats interesting
vast heron
Epic is using fORtNite money in a smart way.
Thanks to V-Bucks we are getting UE5.
Thank you all 12 years old
pearl elk
Im sure we would have had UE5 anyway because of the investment from the other sectors in UE4
vast heron
We will get UE5 but not as good as this
without large funding of billions fortnite money
pearl elk
Gaming isnt a big industry vs say construction though
Logistics is worth somethin like 3 trillion
vast heron
Gaming isn't a big industry right now.
Gaming is going to explode with VR technologies.
pearl elk
UE4 has been used for all kinda of other industries now
vast heron
We will live in Virtual Worlds with Advanced AI like human.
vast heron
5 Senses in 1 Package full dive VR with Brain-Human Interfaces
median wraith
Lets see how the year ends, after the economics fall x2 times more than in 2008
pearl elk
I would not expect to see VR technologies get significantly cheaper, all thats going to happen is each new GPU you'll get a bump. If they somehow manage SLI/Crossfire per eye or something then maybe you'll come close to flat screen fidelity
vast heron
Elon Musk NeuraLink Brainhuman interface is going to make us possible to access to brain and read data directly from brain and access brain functions also write data directly to the brain.
Games can have real life graphics with dream like statez
pearl elk
1st rule of Elon robotics is no one talks about supreme leader Elon robotics
vast heron
I'm waiting huge technological leaps with 2030
median wraith
yeah I don't like that Elon things lmao
vast heron
Elon Musk savior of human race with Tesla lols
pearl elk
Human body is a complex thing, just because you see it doesnt mean you can feel it in your jellys
vast heron
Space Tech he's like Iron Man
Also Boston Dynamics
They are funding billions for this tech they will able to store your brain in a computer
pearl elk
store your brain in a computer
vast heron
Brain is just 1's and 0's if you can read it
median wraith
Why would want to store someones brain in a computer ?
pearl elk
so the brain can tell me why I poo at weird hours
vast heron
To make human like AI
You can scan a brain and store it's data to make a real advanced AI
pearl elk
oops took a shit in VR, wait... whats that smell
median wraith
and whats the purpose of the advanced AI ?
vast heron
๐
Advanced AI will be 100 times smarter than human
maybe
so we will get better tech
more innovations
pearl elk
will a digital human still poo?
vast heron
i don't know
pearl elk
cuz the brain has natural functions for your body
vast heron
yeah, if we are going to make digital humans
pearl elk
digital heart beat
vast heron
we need a vritual game simulation
pearl elk
oh nooooo power went off
vast heron
for digital humans can live in
pearl elk
I'll put a nvme in my brain
vast heron
So we will first make a detailed simulation of our world or similar to it
pearl elk
enough memory to control heaps of drones
vast heron
our brain faster than nvme ๐
One man control Drone Swarm armed with Gatling guns
sound cool
pearl elk
I'll kill everyone sleeping in VR land
with my killer bots controlled with my brainwaves
vast heron
Atleast if we die in VR we don't die in real life
pearl elk
What if you get formatted?
pearl elk
freshy brain, great for my friend the puppet master
median wraith
The human stupidity have no limits I bet
vast heron
Hackers inject instructions to human using brain chips
Think about it in order to access human brain interface
we will put a chip in our brains
than hacker hacks us, than we walk naked in street lol or worse things
vast heron
I'm going back to Medieval age, too much technology bring my horse and my sword
pearl elk
Im not even sure Im strong enough to carry a sword
vast heron
Technology either going to save us or destroy us
pearl elk
I'll need a Squire
vast heron
i give both outcomes 50%
If we don't start wars with advanced technology we will live in a rich world with peace and no wars
Trade wars are just stupid
pearl elk
vast heron
one of my favorite line +1
zinc matrix
vast heron
good dog
solid aurora
@pearl elk Fortnite increased Epic valuation and allowed to gather far more investors money for selling only small percentage of shares.
We would have UE5 but I don't think they would have money to throw into R&D department, essentially buying top engineers from other companies. The visualization/movie industry exploded after they made investments not before.
pearl elk
Well theres no doubts that Disney are getting their moneys worth with UE4
solid aurora
yeah but they serisouly started using Unreal after Epic invested money into R&D
I mean they used it before, but not on that scale, and probabaly would pay less into Epic, because it wasn't valued at 15 billion
pearl elk
Quixel and Epic go back a fair while together, I think it was always something bound to happen regardless of the state of Fortnite. The engine is fairly self sufficient thats why its driven Epic through the games
solid aurora
that market valuation was after Fortnite Exploded, because Epic do not really make enterprise contracts public so there is no way to estimate valuation of it
it is self sufficient
I say
that you can't buy for example entire Frostbite core team just for engine money (;
or hire Ubisoft engineers working on Anvil like one after another within spawn of two months
pearl elk
Lumen too, we already saw Epic do SVOGI in the past so its not a big reach that so many years later they come up with something new. Infact Id say they are abit behind the curve compared to past engine iterations tbh
vast heron
@solid aurora you are right, Fortnite money increased their R&D budget so we get EPIC features without large amount of budget we would get less features.
solid aurora
I know at least one guy working on Lumen personally
Epic paid him
shit ton of money to move him to USA
pearl elk
UE5 will lag on the PS5 release date by a fair bit by the looks, Epic arnt even saying when Fortnite will be UE5 yet so Im guessing it wont be until maybe 6 months after launch.
vast heron
PS5 games going to run 30FPS on 4K
pearl elk
so next year could be anywhere between 3-12 months after launch
solid aurora
"We will release Fortnite, built with UE4, on next-gen consoles at launch and, in keeping with our commitment to prove out industry-leading features through internal production, migrate the game to UE5 in mid-2021."
vast heron
PS5 games are not going to lag imo 4K/30FPS with GPU as powerful as RTX 2070 and CPU is powerful as Ryzen 3700X
solid aurora
they are going with Chaos route
pearl elk
so as I bloody said, atleast 6months after launch
solid aurora
yeah well engine is in abit of R&D state
but
I don't think it would be so far as it is now, without Fortnite money
pearl elk
or maybe Fortnite held up UE5
because Epic needed to hire more to get more hands on R&D
solid aurora
before it they had 3 people working on rendering
and it was on mainting it
now they have R&D dedicated just to rendering
R&D dedicated to physics
and open world
like that money is invested hard
btw. mid year for switching biggest AAA game for new next gen engine i say is good result
especially that it will be biggest engine beta test ever ๐
pearl elk
Niagara is only just out of experimental and I remember that being mentioned before UE4s launch
solid aurora
yeah
because they haven't had people working on it
then hired one guy
which was also tasked with maintaing Cascade
then they started to have infinite money
and hired 5-6 people to work on Niagara (;
working on engine features is always down to it.
How much money do you have to buy engine engineers
not hire
BUY (;
pearl elk
so if Niagara were more important to Fortnite it woulda been done years ago
thats what youre saying ๐
pearl elk
like Epic didnt have engineers before Fortnite or something
pearl elk
they did they were just busy... on Fortnite
pearl elk
so they had to get more to do the things they originally wanted to do
solid aurora
you cannot expect to put one person to own multiple systems and work on multiple features
pearl elk
Epics always worked that way, the engine follows mostly what they are doing internally. Thats fine by me but to act like we wouldnt be here without one game is kinda stupid
the engines called Unreal for a reason ๐
pearl elk
I mean hell we predate fortnite, we aint here for that infinite money so there must be something more to it
solid aurora
I know they always worked on features which were needed for their games
but look
is Chaos needed for Fortnite ? Not really. Lumen ? Also not really.
pearl elk
thats why it took so long
solid aurora
Yes.
But is it needed now ?
Also no
It took so long because people. You must have people to work on those features, prefferably small dedicated teams
focused on single engine subsystem
pearl elk
Yes theres alot of other areas which wernt even around before, the EOS, Epic Store, UE4 MP
costs associated with security and upgrading servers because of Fortnite
I wonder if they still pay the same price for github hosting now lol
Wonder if it'll be amazing on Unity ๐
solid aurora
heh
considering Microsoft is using UE for most of their internal titles
they might get it for free ๐
pearl elk
Ninja Theory deserve it though, Senua is an amazing character
Riot is using UE too now arnt they
Ive seen Wargaming been advertising for UE peoples for ages now
solid aurora
well
you can write your own tech
licensee something else
or use most tested game engine that exists
no wonder everybody is switching (;
pearl elk
It could just be R&D bit like Mirrors Edge for DICE at the time, crazy how all those stories about Frostbite came out. Wonder how true that is, I think EA might not have been structured well internally for a unified engine push. They would have needed engine support engineers, something UE4 isnt exactly lacking on tbh. Engines had alot of years to build professionals
solid aurora
well EA doesn't really force Forstbite to everybody
it's for profit company
not politics company ;
pearl elk
Yeah Respawn is bucking the trend in their favour, we'll see though. I wonder if they will be forced into line EA-style
pearl elk
Not after Bioware ๐
solid aurora
EA is hand off of most game their doing
sports games not included
that's why they fail so much and cancel ;p
pearl elk
I wish they still had the indie publishing
solid aurora
if you have to much create freedom are not good at managment
you end up like BioWare
or those guys from Dead Space
pearl elk
or Maxis
or Westwood
or Infinity Spawn
I heard theres a new Medal of Honour game
come full circle
Actually the recent Noclip on Arkane was pretty good
solid aurora
to bad im so fed up with WW2 games : D
pearl elk
Im fed up with Star Wars tbh
solid aurora
never !
pearl elk
Its just WW2 with plastic suits
solid aurora
and that make entire difference : D
pearl elk
Cy-ber-punk, cy-ber-punk
Interested to see where this Epic Publishing thing goes, might really help to lift up some indies into that AAA space
Makes me nostalgic tbh to back when it was Epic MegaGames
fluid bloom
cue meltdown
pearl elk
They should ban all politicians for spreading lies
Everything has to be spun a certain way, thats why people get angry and burn cities ๐
tranquil sonnet
Trump getting actually banned from Twitter would be hilarious and cause the biggest temper tantrum in history probably.
pearl elk
He has been banned, acouple of times. It always clicks back on, wonder why
turn it back on or the IRS will tie you up in court
being cavity searched by secret service sounds fun too
abstract haven
he doesnt seem to understand companies can set their own ToS
just thinks its some free-to-use platform everyone can say anything on
pearl elk
Being a businessman you would think he would understand business more
I wanna see him and Arnie have a punch up lol
abstract haven
yeah idk, seems like government provide social systems like education and healthcare, but no internet, or social network
pearl elk
government controlled social network, sounds familiar
abstract haven
afaik there isnt a state-owned ISP right?
I mean technically he is trying to promote free speech, which is great, just a shame its nonsense
and its probably in a way where his voice is a lot louder than anyone elses'
pearl elk
free speech isnt free from consequences though, if you tell someone to kill someone else and they do you are liable
abstract haven
yeah, thats true, but we are supposed to mutually agree on matters like these
pearl elk
We call it a duty of care, people have to generally be nice to each other
abstract haven
like, democratically a lot of places choose to sacrifice the freedom of owning firearms (as a citizen) bc they think thats valuable
pearl elk
police for whatever reason seem to get away with the stupidest shit, here one stoned a wombat on video and nothin happened.
abstract haven
sacrificing a freedom to improve social stability is nothing new, its just these days governments ask make you sacrifice really important things which make no real difference
sage tendon
The thing people dont get with free speech is that you domt HAVE to say everything that comes up in the mind. Freedom stops where the freedom of another gets affected by it..
pearl elk
Then theres the one who ran over a P plater on a motorcycle, killed the kid and got let off.
Routine traffic stop, just bleh flattened
Its bullshit aye, anyone else woulda had the book thrown at em
abstract haven
yeah, its messed up its bc if the law looks like they're wrong, people lose trust in the system, so they let bullshit slide for the sake of appearing competent
@sage tendon I think the important thing is if you force your views on someone and they dont wanna hear it, then it's basically violating their freedoms
but most the time people can just walk away
In China you cant protest in public, bc they think it violates other peoples freedoms
even if you join some wechat group with hundreds of members, they consider that a gathering/public area
sage tendon
Thats where norms and values comes in, but I think that its a thing of the past these days
abstract haven
but generally, in private they are cool with you saying wahtever
unless it's kind of terrorist stuff they pick up on the wire, like most other countries
pearl elk
Thing is Trump has a huge platform so its not as easy as walking away, with that sort of platform comes a greater responsibility
sage tendon
China is doing a north korea move lately
pearl elk
I mean that tweet in particular, can he really not call up people in Minneapolis on the phone and say that to them directly rather than bleeping it out over the internet.
abstract haven
Ill just say that a lot of the things they said in the meeting were positive and rational, a couple of them def were not
sage tendon
Trump likes to show his dirty laundry for everyone to see
Maybe he doesnt realise Twitter isnt only used in USA
pearl elk
Imagine how easy your country would be to defeat if all government communications were through Twitter, that guy is the biggest security flaw in the entire country ๐
broadcasting national guard troop movements gg
abstract haven
well, tech is so integral to out lives now it should be a public service, just like education or healthcare imo
sage tendon
I wonder if the nuke case carrier witholds the nuke codes from Trump, out of (realistic) fear of the codes leaking on twitter
abstract haven
then id have no problem if he wants to change the ToS on a state-owned social media site, because we agreed to it
and could possibly change it
sage tendon
Can you inagine the tweet? "Hey rocket boy, guess what this is: 7 5 4 3 8 8 2 1"
abstract haven
actually I cant, Im not american lul
pearl elk
I do see some benefit in government controlling the internet to a degree to protect from undesirables and to enforce your local laws
But the trust aint there for me ๐
sage tendon
Last time some goverment controlled the information flow, the world went in to the dark ages
abstract haven
afaik companies need to operate within the realms of the law already, except some companies limit the information even further because they have their "community" to take care of
pearl elk
I would love if all communication was state owned, then they could stop scammers and spammers
I would seriously give up alittle bit of freedom for that protection
sage tendon
Scammers will always find a new way
In the netherlands, the goverment is actually the biggest spammer
Not even with government stuff but with lotteries
pearl elk
lol yeah I can see that being a problem
why is it so difficult to form governments you can trust though, why is it people given the chance will disappoint you
sage tendon
Power corrupts
abstract haven
hohoho
sage tendon
Either by abusing it or by the fear of losing it
pearl elk
Is there really power in government though, I mean its really simple things which people must be blinded by
things like a nice house or a nice car with a boat
sage tendon
As long people believe there is, they have
abstract haven
theyre usually more concerned about taking care of the people immediately around them
pearl elk
not huge ambitions really
abstract haven
human brains didnt really evolve to think on a scale like that
sage tendon
Same with money, it only has value because people blindly follow the value trend
Enforced by the monetary systems and fear of not being able to participate in society
pearl elk
Yeah I guess they are happy in their own puny existence to not enact real change so they just keep the ball rolling
sage tendon
Exactly
pearl elk
Its all Trump now but I bet he'll be one of the least memorable presidents down the line
sage tendon
People are born into this indoctrination and are happy to pass on the torch
There is food, luxery, etc so why not
pearl elk
probably end up some washed up dude trying to build statues of himself ๐
sage tendon
Like the Oracle from the Matrix tells: give people the ability to believe in there choice and they wont question their existence
pearl elk
Yeah but what you really want is opulence ๐
unattainable really, its like a filter over the world to make everything look more lavish
If life were a perfume advertisement
look at Trump, all that shit and he's just some angry dude on Twitter
naive sandal
hey all im a fim/tv production person, not a coder, but i am learning unreal for its virtual production qualities, particularly livelink. I have started the tutorials and i am making progress, materials and actors still kinda boggle my mind but, i'm getting there. Anyway, i was wondering if you could point me in the right direction as afar as livelink, and character setup. I have FBX with skeletons, but some tutorials on connecting them to iphone facial capture and basic mocap gear would be AWESOME...
thank you
zinc matrix
this is how the new microsoft flight sim 2020 will look. https://i.imgur.com/dDE8IWH.jpg
placid thistle
do you think 4.26 is going to happen by Christmas 2020 ?
median wraith
@placid thistle before
carmine frigate
whats hype in 4.26?
placid thistle
for me - mostly VR fixes and DXR Lightmass
carmine frigate
ahh bugfixes are allways hype ๐
placid thistle
Well, they don't have alpha to coverage MSAA in forward renderer for ES3.1 and mobile Vulkan, so it's more like a new feature in this regard ๐
(which should have been added since like 4.16)
carmine frigate
if i had to go back to blender 2.7 and unreal 4.0 it would take me months to be able to do what i did with those years ago ๐
i would go crazy
placid thistle
why would you even consider doing that ?!
carmine frigate
its seemed fine back then tho
i dont
its just a weird thougt
when u look back at what u made back then, u think i can do that a lot better now, not w/o all the updates tho
phat crashing all the time
phat and persona:P
pearl elk
Im gonna be a luddite and stick with UE4 cuz its better
pearl elk
Its so much more feature rich, UE5 is more unstable and doesnt support all the plugins yet ๐
pearl elk
I remember there was missing functions from UT2004->UT3 cuz UE3 core was based on UE2 not UE2.5
solid aurora
that was before engine was modularized
instead of beign created as one monolithic solution xD
pearl elk
remember UE4, it was kinda dodgy for awhile till like 4.4.2 ๐
solid aurora
those classes do way to much and carry way to much state around
tidal ivy
all that shit will still be there
if it wasn't, you wouldn't be able to migrate projects from 4 to 5
pearl elk
all that shit isnt even there when they do a new UE4 release