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You don't have a bank account?
Well, you might want to get one of those.
What's the age to even have a bank account?
7
oh wow
I don't think there is one, anyone can have a bank account.
safer to use a credit card for online
You just put some cash in the bank and then use your debit card to spend the money in the bank.
Do people still have credit cards in 2020?
I do
what would I enter in the credit card thing
for the billing address
for the visa gift card
Did you activate the Visa gift card?
I thought you entered in that information when you activated the card.
and not waste $40
But I haven't used one in a while. Might want to go to the website and check.
I would go on the website.
which website
If you want to get a Visa gift card, then Visa.
If you want to get a Mastercard gift card, then Mastercard.
not finding much
oh
oh wait
i can buy on microsoft store
another nvm
only for xbox one
nvm won't be able to even get it
he changed his mind for some reason on even getting any game
Ugh. I spent 5 years acclimating a variety of bamboo to the climate here and it's finally coming in strong this year and the idiots cutting trees down next door just trampled over an entire bed of new shoots.
My neighbor is a great guy but he tries to get help around his house for dirt cheap and it gets a bit crazy. The guy that did his driveway was so messed up when he poured the concrete in that he buried some of his tools in it.
He had a brick wall put in around his patio and the guy made vertical columns of single bricks stacked all around it and then mortared between the columns.
You should kick it over.
Nah, I like my neighbor. He just doesn't know how to hire contractors.
I didn't say kick your neighbor over.
I think he's afraid to stand up to them or something. He gets me to yell at them a lot.
Introduce him to the internet and how to search for reputable contractors...
My cousin owns one of the biggest ones around. She does rehabs of entire sections of Dayton. But they won't work for nothing.
It's funny and aggravating at the same time.
I love this bamboo. It gets these black and white rings at each node when it matures and this is the first year those bands are coming in.
(Not mine)
Just watch out for pandas.
Trying to but so far all the traps are empty.
Putting in a coy pond if we stay at this house. The grove of bamboo over by it will form a half circle around it and a seating area.
I want to try and get one of these varieties to grow up here. They're not well suited to it so it'd be challenging but maybe not impossible.
You just need to sing to it in Chinese.
Sing some Chinese opera.
Me singing opera always sound like Chinese. No matter which language I use.
Yeah. I would love to be able to get it to grow where I live.
All I can grow is weeds
I could probably bend it down and cover it for the coldest parts of the year and it get it to survive.
There's a guy further north of us who does that with a fig tree. Covers it, not bends it. He wraps it in tarps or something every winter.
I've been mowing over a few beds of tulips since we bought this house and they come back just as strong every year.
Yeah, they look nice for a short while though and no maintenance. I try and plant stuff that takes care of itself.
A lot of perennial ground covers.
Everyone's panicked about meat. Last two orders we've placed all the roasts have been canceled.
My apartment is stocked up with lots of food.
Yeah we are stocked up too. But I order a roast or two every week
I've got a lot of people to feed.
Why don't you have your own pigs?
All the butchers are booked for months or I'd buy one and split it with my neighbor.
Order from China, we have plenty of pigs here.
@zinc matrix They're done. Changed their nick to add Carnivore Now to it. I have even less time for that BS.
I've never seen a bat.
They're either just trolling or lack the convictions of their ranting, either way no time for that.
Speaking about the K-Person?
No, Velcro.
Karol is a Unity dude. Velcro doesn't do game design at all.
Either way, neither one is all that interested in Unreal or making games.
Why would someone be here if not using ue4 at all
True
Its like procrastinating
But then a bit more interactive
Pff what a noob
Everyone knows that Java is the language of mankind
Btw is it just me or did the game jam went from 3 weeks to 3 days?
I tried to share a bunch of tasty Megascan vegetables, fruits, and bread...
But he doesn't like game design.
What can you expect from a man who channels all his hatred in to plantea genocide
(I had to google plantea to be honest)
I thought I'd seen him post something dev related once or twice but I could be wrong.
What can you do?
Ohio, where you can use both heat and A/c in the same 24 hour period
I can make tacos.
I just use it as pancake and put the rest as topping on it
If im motivated, i finish it of in the oven
I don't own an oven.
And yes, there is a Mortal Kombat voice saying "Finish Him!"
(Its me, i just pretend im the announcer)
Why dont you have an oven?
How do you make pizza?
I order it and the guy brings it to my door.
Weird question, is there a sushi pizza there?
You can get seafood pizza, but it isn't sushi once you cook the pizza.
Good point
Shrimp pizza, squid pizza, I even saw tuna but wouldn't touch that with a 5 meter pole.
Blasphemy.
Sushi is not always raw.
Is duck compairable to chicken?
I saw salmon and mango on the menu once and ran like hell and never went back to that place again.
They have a really good shrimp scampi pizza at the place down the street.
Duck is very different than chicken, actually.
Its still on my bucket list
Garlic butter, shrimp, cheese. Flat bread crust and stone oven.
Weirdly enough I got to taste alligator way faster >.>
Chicken doesn't have a lot of flavor, it is pretty generic.
Duck has a distinct taste.
Go to a Chinese Restaurant that has Beijing Roast Duck. It is roasted to be crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside.
"Quack quack nom nom" is so much catchier than "Tok tok nom nom"
Most chinese restaurants are too westernized to actually get a valid chinese meal
Duck is one thing I would never be able to cook.
You have to Google one of the authentic ones.
There should be at least 1 or two if you live in a major city.
Everyone should try it at least once in their life.
I was given the head of the duck once...
I want to eat a bear.
And a yak.
i want to try all edible ones
I quite like tuna on pizza, it's better if you don't use stinky skipjack. tuna, red onion, black olives and chilli peppers. If I eat skipjack tuna from a can I have to put cumin on it to get over the smell.
Peking duck is delicious! Actually anything served with hoisin sauce is.
I'm sorry but I just can't get over this https://i.imgur.com/GCL5QLz.jpg
this is how we handled anti-virus pre John Mcafee going insane
I'm being pavlov'd into wanting steak everytime I see the word "Velcro"
@tulip orbit it's the new drinking game except with steak. He talks about veganism and we eat a steak.
when i was kid i've tried moose, reindeer and bear but can't quite remember the taste, but i remember we ate alot of those ๐
@zinc matrix I tried crocodile and kangaroo. Disgusting
I'm drinking chocolate flavored coffee and eating coffee flavored chocolate...
Life is odd.
Enjoy chocolate while it can still be grown @north torrent, you're doing it 100% correctly
I do like chocolate.
I would blow a whistle, so I'm sold
There used to be a developer who regularly would do AMA's on reddit, he worked on ratchet and clank IIRC, he goes by the "Bidet Lord", and drops some great knowledge mixed with great bidet facts. Real game changing stuff
Imperial March from Star Wars arranged and performed for 8 cellos by Samara Ginsberg
My free GTA V Character.
He's John Wick ๐ Fortnite than GTA V you can't escape him.
i'm so confused
every single model won't open anymore
not even in blender
when i open in blender i just get the message saying invalid header
it's every file
not even images or sounds
Feeling artistic today so I just went and rendered the void of space with full raytracing and infinite polys.
if you fix this it will be perfect
wait. I made a mistake. I had it set to zero bounces by default. I'll set it to 1.
there we go
Needs more polygons
to me it looks like GTA5 "V"
GTA
I can make a motor vehicle from that many sticks
@pearl elk How you doing buddy?
Yeah pretty good, living out in the middle of no where has its benefits ๐
very evil moonso
Fair enough, some would say the same for me.
Decided to try to reintegrate myself back into the Unreal community. Been away for far too long.
It can be a distraction, especially when youre busy. People come and go ๐
Keen to test Nanite, its like static meshes on steriods
Yeah, I'm still just as busy, if not busier.
I was playing Dark Pictures Anthology game last night and I realized there's quite a few of those cinematic type games which use UE4 so they will see a bump with UE5 stuff. Thats kinda exciting to consider
oh wow, people actually played that ๐
Ive played Planet of the Apes too, sometimes I like to just relax so those games are a different pace
Ive got Until Dawn and Hidden Agenda as well ๐
I've got a can of corn.
Music:
Geographer - Synergy [No Copyright Music]
Dreamstate Logic - Silent Universe [ downtempo ambient electronic ]
After All by Geographer (Ambient Calm Background Music No Copyright)
Gameplay video using vanilla setup for the map with edited graphics elements beside ...
@rugged storm you have backups, right?
need animatronix design mask
i have backups
on another drive
but they're corrupted on there too
i get the same error

EAEAEEAE
man, epic launcher is a huge dumpster fire
it says game is running but it is not
restarting launcher doesn't help
turning off process too much of a rocket science
@fluid bloom civ6
clear case of after the fact
not saying the launcher is a quality piece of software tho
i like how in civ6 you have your epic friendlist but it doesnt do anything but show ppl online ๐
I wish I had an epic friendlist, I think mines kinda okayish
"The 2020 Monaco Grand Prix was set to take place today. Instead, there won't be a race on the streets of Monte Carlo for the first time since 1954. "
BrOoOoOoO
My code worked first try ๐คฏ
its almost as if I know what I'm doing ๐ฎ
What's this new bar in the forums, under users?
@rugged storm have you figured out what is going on and how to fix it?
Level of loyalty to the Communist Party.
does anyone have a good article on file management discipline under windows?
no
I am at the point when I need to separate files by origin and purpose
I tried chkdsk and thought that might fix it but didn't work
downloaded content and generated content, data that has to be backed up and data that can be downloaded again if deleted
so far I use windows logic for that
/home/user/videos for videos I made (capture, renders, etc) /home/public/videos for downloaded stuff, e.g. movies
windows libraries to group them into one place
and backup script that copies selected folders to different drives into /home/[tenant]/backup/[folder]
it's so weird to me because everything was fine before
and now all of a sudden i can't open any of them
yes, sounds weird
even though I did nothing to it
like malware that messed up your personal files
I haven't downloaded anything that I don't trust
and right after i say that
oh nvm
false positive
i hate windows defender
I have firefox, origin, gfwl.
and some of the games i have are from microsoft store and steam
that's about it
i'm trying to find some good unreal engine tutorials
since most of the ones i've found require me to buy some things
and the free ones stop uploading
they just stop
alright was nice talking i'm going to check to see if there is some sort of malware on my pc
just in case
but haven't noticed anything weird besides that folder
no threats detected
malwarebytes
Hi guys
Can you help me with The Game name please im confused and im not expert with this names
I was thinking about this Name "Sleepy fighter game"
The Game is Very Similer to Stickfight but 3rd Person and the players moving like Human fall flat
damn bro
Yes bro
does anyone know how to fix mic picking up headset sounds, Im using razer nari ultimate
if you know please ping me, I couldnt find anything on google
ive messed with the synapse settings, but not much, there is still a little bit that can get picked up
I know mike action is a bit extreme, but it'd be nice to see him on the UE4 engine.
@open pawn you mean how to make it?
how do you mean make it? @sage tendon I have that issue, it happens 4/10 times
How do you have that as "issue"?
If when recording, well dont start recording until you have your headset on?
Or if you mean that your mic picks up the speaker sounds, there is software that cancels that out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILfUuBLfzGI
20 mins in is the interesting part. We really need something like this built into the engine so it's this easy to get the performance necessary for high entity count games.
Learn how to get started using Unity ECS.
โ
Get the Project files and Utilities at https://unitycodemonkey.com/video.php?v=ILfUuBLfzGI
Unity DOTS Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-WkwdDoNY
If you have any questions post them in the comments and I'll do my best to ...
I'm not a fan of C# at all but that burst compiler obliterated my expectations from that video demonstration.
It'd be fun to do a raw performance comparison, and see exactly how much work is involved with each.
burst compiler is op
well
burst just calls llvm with a lot of info about what can't alias
so I guess llvm is what's actually op
Clever.
I kinda wish it were that easy to use instanced static meshes with an imported ECS engine.
implement your ECS with niagara instead 
It's doable but i've yet to figure out how to get past the one issue where the editor crashes, unless maybe I slap it in an UObject.
then you get overpowered GPU-based draw call generation and culling on top of free transform updates
can have a million cubes flying around and it works
If that works with a physics engine that'd be really impressive.
Even if it's basic AABB
no physics of course
For games with high entity counts honestly an AABB type of physics would be good enough most times.
I've never put logic on the gpu through custom code as of yet, but that's interesting to wonder about.
niagara is very nice there
you only worry about the update logic and it takes care of writing a sensible compute shader from that
Impressive.
I've not given convex physics a real stab, but making an AABB physics engine I find is fairly possible to have a pretty flat layout.
Am using some tricks where i'd have some fligs to tell if an index is valid or not for add/removing bodies without moving bodies that are already valid.
So that one can have a valid index for the body's duration.
And you don't need an array of pointers to bodies.
explicit max object counts are very sketchy
I need to swap out the isValid buffer with actual bitflags again but it was bugged earlier, in theory you could search about 512 bodies in a single instruction to see if any one of them happen to be invalid.
Well i'm not a fan of unnecessary malloc.
there doesn't seem to be a technical reason for these limits
like it's not to fit something in 16 bit indices or whatever
For the max_bodies maybe not but the overlappingBodies part there is.
but then why should 120000 elements be impossible rather than run slightly slower?
Could just change it with a compile flag of sorts. If your making a game with lots of entities you know your max limits.
max limits don't necessarily exist if users can influence it at all
see factorio gigabases
True, though for rts games you can impose a strict cap.
You have interesting points though.
(I still don't understand how factorio runs as well as it does)
They are using components in some fashion, exactly how so I'm not sure.
unless it was secretly redesigned after they posted the blogs one or 2 years ago, they aren't
Did they say what design they went with?
Being able to shove millions of entities per tick is pretty impressive, on one flipping thread at that.
I guess they moved the things that actually do a lot each frame out to separate systems
Err supposedly one thread.
because the main entities are some crazy inheritance hierarchy and iterated through pointers
You have to be shitting me.
several blog posts mention this
i barely remember one having a class diagram of some subset of this
there was even one about experiments with manual prefetching to make that loop less shitty
The dream.
Been wanting to test some prefetching instructions.
On my old shitty cpu the physics engine I had only simulated 25k moving rectangles, though single threaded, I was expecting 100k using all threads on a quad on low end hardware. But that still doesn't feel as good as whatever the heck factorio did.
Err 25k per tick at 30 ticks a second.
Not even 60 ticks per second.
I just realized the grid system means that their own custom physics can be super optimized for that niche situation.
They could somewhat fake smooth motion through interpolation.
Using a delta.
And the width/height of every physics body could be less than a byte large each.
Wait I just realized vehicles aren't axis aligned, they are convex, I think.
As a more common reference point, if you were the kind of person who took formal proofs in geometry, decided it was mostly trivial, and it was easier to just prove most things from basic principles readily and easily rather than memorizing it, you probably have the logical ability to handle C and C++ well. If it was a struggle at all, you should save yourself the effort and stick with Python or C# (you will never create a program like Factorio in Python though, it is outside the capabilities of the language no matter how good you are with it).
I wonder what formal proofs is.
Sounds like my kind of thing.
Ooooh.
a way to significantly overcomplicate a statement until no one can understand it anymore
Meh the whole math thing escapes me, i'd rather build things out of logic than memorize rules, which seems to be what math is about.
I already brought that whole perspective up way too many times here though.
Was hoping it was something one could use to express a problem in a way that makes sense. Than just a bunch of symbols with no foundation.
I really really really really really hate memorizing stuff without any kind of relational learning.
They started the project with two programmers, then blew into 12 I think.
That's... Insane.
Maybe it was successful because it attracted all the right kind of help.
It seems that programmers are interested in that kind of game in the first place.
You'd never see a solo project like that.
Not even just a solo programmer with help from atrists.
A first person shooter where you hold a smaller character in your left hand by the legs so it looks like a third person shooter in all the screenshots.
I have ideas sometimes
perfect timing, there are some great character models on sale you could grab right now
one of those in particular would make a great melee weapon
Real talk now that i coded i finally can say im better than yandere dev
The Trump model lmfao
Trump
in that sale
why does youtube keep recommending I watch morons dissect this yandre unity project
I'm almost sure the yt algorithm pushes drama bullshit a lot
"this room model is all one merged model and not individual models for the furniture, thats bad!"
"It also has overlapping UV's meaning it was made from many different assets with different textures"
im never logged in
Use firefox
it knows. Embrace it.
VPN
Deathrey I will fight at the hot gates for as long as possible

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on another note here is a really old basic tree asset in unity default lighting, now try to get this nice neutral look in ue4
I feel its impossible
Eh it's okay. I've seen a lot of really nice looking trees in UE4
my challenge would be for someone to try to recreate that look in ue4
thinks can look better, or more cinematic so to speak
but to make in neutral and easy on the eyes like that
What is the complication though ?
I'm not sure if its ue4s tonemapper or something else
I've tweaked and tweaked and tweaked but it always has that contrasty, slightly over saturated look
part of it is TAA too I think, it turns those nice fluffy leaves into blobs
does look like there's no AA in the above shot
and TAA does not play nice with foliage
I wouldn't use it in a foliage heavy environment
like you have a choice ๐
there might also be the effect of the forward rendering or msaa
I remember with ue4 fr, with msaa, the masked materials would get an almost translucent effect, but without sorting problems
making leaf / branch cards less blobby and obvious
It does 100%
as long as MSAA is implemented properly
does UE4 still have those shadow artifacts on the mesh edges when using MSAA?
I'm also using Unity's HDRP on forward-only mode but can't really use MSAA there as their SSR doesn't work properly with MSAA
their SSR works fine on forward itself
what is going on here https://i.imgur.com/Y8Olfpi.jpg
why is the heli not flying directly towards the airport
its medical heli
it's avoiding flying directly over populated areas, which is likely a requirement
not sure why Heddesheim is apparently omitted
may have been a destination
in fact yeah, it took off from the airport, did whatever it needed to do in Heddesheim, then proceeded to the hospital in Wieblingen (or the other way around)
ive never seen that behaviour tho
this heli has no restrictions at all
it is flying exactly over populated areas.
heddesheim is not destination. look at the lower part of the image. you see the height of the heli.
it landed on the airport!
@tidal ivy
Should I play Civilization 6 or Total War 3 Kingdoms?
yes
Dual monitor for dual games.
Should I learn UE engine?
I think UE should learn You.
If you have to ask, then no.
No really, I tried a few too many times, but never gone more than complete beginner and started to learn other stuff like Substance Designer or SpeedTree.
It all depends on what you want to do.
If you want to make trees, then learn Speed Tree.
Learning Unreal won't help you much at making trees.
Unreal is a great way to put all your nice trees into a composition together though.
If that's what you want to do.
But if you don't know what you want to do, then there is no reason to just learn Unreal.
learning to utilize ue4 can and will mean having to learn other software like substance, speedtree, or any other dcc app, and from time to time spend more time on those than ue4.
could always use this function
You could always just procrastinate.
Popular multiplayer FPS games need luck factor, I observed without luck/randomness noobs can't win games.
Noob/Casual players needs to 1st place every 10 games or so, you need a luck factor like Backgammon in Multiplayer for it so it will be popular
Too much randomness will break the game for sure you need atleast %10-%20 chance for noob to kill Pro player
I just play single player like a looser...
no, I like singleplayer games, Singleplayer proper meal and Multiplayer junk food ๐
Multiplayer games are only as fun as the people you play them with.
So when it comes to online games, that means not very fun.
find friends Mao Chan
CO-OP is the best.
tthen u can play minekraft
CO-OP best of both worlds. Single and Multi ๐
Most co-op games tend to lose out on the story aspect of single player games.
Though I see no reason why that should be true, it is just the pattern I see most of the time.
I enjoyed playing Halo with my high school friends back in the day using Xbox 360, golden age of gaming Halo-1-2-3 was amazing for co-op.
Halo Co-op is just great story is great also
I think if done properly adding a second human to the equation could make a game with choices a lot more dynamic.
But that's a difficult thing for a solo dev to experiment with. There is a certain level of scale required for such a thing.
Legendary Difficulty is even Pro players die in streams if you don't be careful so playing with a friend doesnt hurt.
For solo devs co-op is not required not necessary
I was talking about medium to large projects
I like to experiment and prototype the things I speculate about.
But I have yet to have the chance to try a two player story based game centered around the choices of each player and how those choices affect the story and the story of the other player.
Yes in co-op games, host player is the main hero, you are his/her bodyguard defending him/her completing objectives in the story.
HEHEHE
That's not pushing the limits of games though.
That's just going with the low hanging fruit.
There was a coop game with a great story wait a second it was made by EA
A Way Out great interactive 2 player story
I have that on EA Orgins.
good ๐
I will complete my first level soon, I will share it with you guys.
First level of my game using UE4 for Multiplayer.
There are no character models or weapons so just stare ๐
i ahve to add
now...
repairness.. of items..
their condition.. state..
this aint no eazy feat
Is your game have item durability
in fallout weapons getting worse after 100-200 rounds of continues firing same gun, you would need repair kit etc. Some guns more durable needed 400-500 rounds to hit broken state.
If it is just another thing that only exists in a menu that gives you more menu work to do, I would cut it.
If you can do something fun with it however, than it is a good idea. How does it add to the game?
I would not include weapon breaking mechanics to my FPS game if i'm not going for hyper realism or survival genre
If i was going for hyper realistic than i would physically simulate each bullet exiting barrel with physics motion gasses releasing etc. real time ๐
it would be just gun repairing, dismantling game at that point
Scrolling through a menu isn't hyper realistic.
No I was not talking about that
Menu stuff in Fallout is not realistic i aggree with you
Download links:
Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/262410/
Mac AppStore: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/world-of-guns/id1143779751?ls=1&mt=12
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nobleempire.wog
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/dl/android?...
This is next gen guns will look like in video games
every part customizable also will break with improper action
you will need to maintain your gun in survival lols ๐
I don't like pistols.
i think bout saving file to hdd each time its durability(condition) changes (so after each hit)
AK47 and M4A1 is my go to weapons.
but that will be ton of saving
A shotgun?
I don't know... all guns look the same to me.
KSG
An AK47 is a pistol or a shotgun?
AK47 is a rifle developed by Soviet Union, main weapon of Russian Military for many long time
So for snipers?
Are you joking. In news it is most seen weapon Kalashnikov
Assault Rifle with 30 round magazine effective up to 300 meters.
Isn't a gun just a gun?
I'm a gun nut but you are true 50% percent.
Every gun just developed to kill or destroy things
Black-Powder weapons, they are expensive and cool guns
Original black powder weapons can be found in museums
This is a crossbow, It's using a fiber to accelerate the bow (projectile) can kill a human easy.
Small crossbow hand-held, large animals will survive it.
You like historical cannons too, They were used with spears and bows.
When first guns used in wars, it was taking too long to reload, and you need to reload after each shot, people were still using spears, bows and swords back then.
but
Is this a pistol or a shotgun?
https://5.imimg.com/data5/KX/FO/MY-45001431/bosch-drill-machine-500x500.jpg
Oooo, a laser gun!
This lady is using it to shoot through the wall.
Your cover system has just been made obsolete.
I would not want to be on receiving end of this gun ๐
It can ignore body armor just drill a hole ๐
I think I will stick to making games about fluffy animals with cute ears.
I like fluffy animals. I would buy your games if you release them on steam
Once Steam drops the cut they ask from developers to 15%.
Do you sell them on Epic Store i have an account there too
If Epic wanted my game on their store I would put it on there.
Smaller store means people might actually see my game.
Is Epic selective about games
Yes.
You can still sell it on Steam and make GabeN rich thats only alternative
There are a lot of alternatives.
Itch for example, or just having it on my own website to download.
Nobody says you need to even use a store.
I could put my game on The Pirate Bay.
I'm new to game development market, i'm learning new stuff here.
I want to mostly sell my game on usb drives to people who buy it in person.
cool
I would put a special code to my game to enable Blood graphics, I will sell game to kids, only with cheat-code you will enable blood. So I would able to sell both kids and adults
I refuse to take the whisky out of my game, so it will be rated for teen even though it is a children's game.
Rated T for whisky drinking donkey
Lol there are no violance or sexual it should not get T rating imo
Childs already know drinking too much alcahol is going to damage you.
getting drunk is stupid and dangerous if you are outside.
Ok...
i so bored
tfw accidentally hit rebuild instead of build ๐ฉ
Only Unity devs get bored because Unity is such a boring tool to build with.
Zbrush = fun
Blender = fun
Substance Designer = fun
Unreal = fun
Unity = yawn...
well at least it's getting the most out of my cpu right now
total bro wukuwuku
i wonder how long unity engine build takes
i have to use a custom UE build, so the rebuild option is always a constant risk lol
the engine
it takes like half an hour or more lol
and this is a pretty beefy pc
oh wow it finished already, only took 15 min hah
on latest ryzens it's 5 min ๐
UE4: Crashes
6 hours of my unsaved progress:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CtsIM76v-s
the quarantine really fucked me up huh.. help!
MY LESSON is to neverCRY
Guys can some point me to some good materials (text/video) about difference between AMD Ryzen and Threadripper series in terms of performance? Mostly i see something look a bit marketing tricks like "Threadripper is for content creators", but same time, every performance test which i saw on youtube clearly shows what threadripper have lower performance comparison to ryzen series in most cases (blender, cinema) and i think probably, something like baking lightmaps also would be faster on ryzen series.
In my local shops threadripper are mostly high priced.
The only thing that i know atm is that threadrippers can handle quad channel memory, but im not really sure how much its influence the resulting performance.
Generally, currently threadrippers look nore like marketing trick to me. Im wrong?
I've got a question I have a laptop i3 with 4gb ram and I wanted to ask can i develop games using this setup? in UE4
If you are not so rich that money doesn't matter, just buy a Ryzen.
That laptop would struggle @rustic gulch
hmm what can I do then ? gaming laptops are way expensive and I could build a pc but then I can't work with a pc everywhere
The latest threadrippers eat any kind of rendering you throw at them, but you need to have enough RAM for them to use. But unless you are in a production environment it's overkill. @chilly igloo
anything you can recommend me? @mossy nexus
at least ?
what type of laptop or pc am I lookin' at to build games
with UE4
Not really man, you just need to get the best you can afford. Plenty of RAM, decent CPU even the budget Ryzens from AMD would be a massive improvement.
spend a billion dollars and you can;'t go wrong, oh it also has to be a mac
an i3 is pretty far down on the pecking order these days, and only 4GB of RAM isn't much. Once Windows takes it's share you're not left with much.
a laptop isnt going to be any different than a desktop in terms of specs to run UE4. Figure out what you want to do in UE4, what specs you need to do that, if you are going to be using it with external accessories, and then find a laptop that hits those needs
hmm any recommendations on getting a laptop or building a pc what specs am I looking at?
that depends on what you are going to be doing
depends on your budget
well mostly I wanted to get into level designing
and wot he said ๐
level design doesnt need a ton of cores for example, a good GPU and lots of storage would be paramount along with a large enough screen and resolution
DXR support is also a concern at that point
hmm
There are some things that run mostly on CPU and some things that run mostly on the GPU.
so a computer with a gpu nvidia's 10series and i5 would be fine with 8gb ram?
So if it's all graphics, materials then GPU is the main thing, but if you're doing stuff with NPCs that have AI and all that funs stuff then CPU is the one.
and I am more of an Indie dev btw
8gb ram is a no go, thats bad..
so?
ohh ok
16GB is bad enough, infiltrator demo for example barely loads and open world won't
and those are oooooooooolder demos
a 10th gen I5 is fine, a 8th gen or higher I7 is a sweet spot to be honest
32gbs required for kite demo
I had a i7 with 16gb RAM and a 1080Ti, it was fine. Not as fine as the 3700x and 32GB but it was workable ๐
yep if you want "just fine" in a laptop find an 8300h with a 1060 and 16gb ram and some nice SSD storage and call it "fine"
next step up would be an 8750/9750h with a 1660ti
after that you get into the new stuff like the 4800 ryzen series with 20x0 cards
in the middle is whats left of Intel and it's newer crap lol
cool actually i was dying to test out and play with ue4 but i guess i have to wait for a long time lol. those specs are pricey tbh tho
well those are comfortable and beyond specs, "it just works" is much lower, you can run it on an integrated I3 if you really wanted to lol
I've got a laptop here with a 10th gen I5 with an integrated G4 gpu and UE4 works well enough on medium settings to get 30fps in a TPP template and it cost me $250 bucks plus $20 for a stick of ram
I mean it's horrible to do real work on but it "works"
Of course, it also depends where you are in the world.
before the virus I would say go used, but even used is getting scarce and newer stuff is getting fairly good and cheap
hmm
If you just want to learn and you lower your expectations, almost anything can work if the gpu is supported. I used an i3 3rd gen for years when UE4 first came out
hmm cool I think i can wait around a bit maybe save some money to build a pc
for a 18 yr old that's actually difficult but yea that's ok ๐ I have the patience and am wiling to wait and save up
Building a pc is better than using a laptop if you care about game design.
yea i'm thinking of building apc only
I'm buying a laptop this year, but the desktop was my main priority. The laptop is just if I have the money, because I do travel a lot and it could be useful in those situations.
anyways gn and thanks for your help I appreciate it @quiet narwhal @mossy nexus @north torrent ๐
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I would wait to upgrade.
you should buy my i7-4790k for stock price in 2015 so I can upgrade, then I will let you know how good the upgrade is. Saves you the trouble.
The latest threadrippers eat any kind of rendering you throw at them, but you need to have enough RAM for them to use. But unless you are in a production environment it's overkill. @chilly igloo
@mossy nexus latest one are sooo out of my price range. I was thinking about 1920x/1950x or even a 1900x with a plans of update in future.
all I am saying is, it took me 93 minutes to fresh build ue4.25 on an i7-4790k @ 4.6ghz. Someone I know took 14 minutes with a ryzen. So production environment or not, you save lifetime.
just not ever noticing mat instructions being calculated is a massive win hehe
its strange that it's not really raw processing power anymore but availability of cores. I get the soft-cap on silicon based procs + heat transference, but in that sense, slamming down more cores only makes as much sense as applications reach for multi-threading. So it's like the advancement isn't the speed, but the methods. That will be capped out by other influence though.
had to rebuild the engine the other day, it took 18 (ish) minutes on an i9 9900k, ryzen's extra cores really don't make much difference in this case
depends. 4 minutes is a lot and its probably only the shader worker compilers that would stress it. For a big chunk of the compile process its using everything it can for those.
โ@ScpUnreal over on the discord server added the b-b-b-๐๐๐๐๐ ๐๐๐ https://t.co/16fGdfmPRXโ
Someone fixed up the casket meme in a much needed way
amazing
if that site is cpu boss or something thats a crap site ๐
you need to compare more local
and actual workload tests
cpu boss and some sites and they have weird algorithms to determin what cpu is better
@chilly igloo I have a 1920x, and compile the whole engine in under 20 mins
(My ram runs at 3200 though, which I've been told is lucky for 1920x)
I don't overclock the cpu either
You guys talking bout new CPUs makes me sad about my near 10yr old one ๐ฆ
hey it may take more time to compile, but then we get more time to slack right?
I dont compile the engine so I've got no excuse ๐ฆ
I never have to much. I keep up with releases, mess around. It usually just works
just compile time, which I get to do some Blender or something
heh i accidentally hit rebuild on my project earlier, and because i use a custom engine build ofc it decided to rebuild the whole engine.... it's a bit annoying when i'm in the zone because i just lose track of what i was doing
you can safely cancel it
when I started with ue4 I had some old CPU and it took around 10 hours to build the engine... fun times ๐
or less skilled because it takes forever to figure out why
it used to take over an hour on my old pc on older UE4 versions... but it's under 15 min now on the i9
i can see how the new processors with all those threads can just power through it
worst part of solo dev work is the lack of people to bounce ideas between. Thats why I love discord and previously slack and previously irc. Keeps that work at office psychology going that you are not alone
That sounds like hell.
I'm looking forward to the ryzen 4, intel's new 10th gen cpu's are kinda disappointing tbh
Intel is doing what Intel does, wait two more years and Intel will be king again. (I'm an amd fan)
I will buy a Ryzen for my next rig, but I am not expecting AMD to stay on top long term.
Intel is doing what Intel does, wait two more years and Intel will be king again. (I'm an amd fan)
They probably will when they finally switch to 7nm
I've been using intel CPUs for the last 5 years probably, amd before that
I'm waiting for the 4th gen before I decide what I'm gonna do, if it's better overall than intel's 10th gen (including single thread performance) I'm gonna buy AMD and move the I9 to my other PC, if not I'm gonna keep my current I9 I have.
You know what this reminds me of... when AMD released the Thunderbird. Took Intel by surprise. Intel came back. AMD are sometimes what forces the money men to push forward on some RnD to take back the market. And it's always suspicious. Either some hacky workaround/fix, or just raw processing through faster cache or some shit. Then you find out all their procs have a built in security issue and it's hardcoded into the mask rom. And it can't be fixed. etc, etc. Same with NVidia. Scam artists all circling like vultures. Picking and poking ๐
lol you design a better processor then ๐
What wouldn't surprise me is if military tech in these areas was literally 20 years in advance, as the old adage states. This tech has been bled out by marketing
If it wasn't for AMD, we'd all still be using 2 core CPUs at 400Mhz and being thankful for it
yeah
damn guysSsSss
The people in marketing ruin innovation.
if mil-tech was advanced, they would be organic processing for quantum algorithmic predictions beyond any concept beyond sci-fi and the AI race has already been won.
and we get a shitty 16 core? pffft
sillicon? I shit it :p
Imagine if we did have quantum computing in the home, the graphics would finally be able to render nurbs ยฌ_ยฌ
People would just use it to bully people on Twitter.
Because of all this I saw a new bios update that improves voltage stuff. Just hit 3400 on my ram xD
thats part of what powers the marketing, which is important
i very nerd
Humans don't need better technology until they can get their shit together.
we need better tech to get our shit together more like
I hope neural interfacing gets more money put into it for real scientific purpose, not to just sell a new headset every 2 years
neural interfacing is terrifying
I read comments about people complaining about their privacy of thoughts whilst using these devices and I thought to myself "I would believe you if you weren't writing your opinion on a logged internet service that is known to harvest data".
anyone with physical interface disabilities and/or communication issues could benefit greatly from this
I think all data should be public.
Privacy doesn't exist, but why should we let a few sleezballs get insanely rich and powerful from taking out data when we could just make everything public.
thats why we need quantum computing locally. To improve the security for any wifi interface. Although some say having it cancels out its usefulness. Then the AI salesmen turn up. Probably called Wintermute or something ยฌ_ยฌ
It's a shame we get to see this race to the bottom in capitalist hardware culture. Simply stepping up in dribs and drabs until Moore's Law is distorted. I thought we would be further than this by now.
Tech innovation is slowing down but I think it's because there's some huge leaps on the horizon
Like quantum computing and AI
lol
@raw rose what would be your attitude if both those things turned out to be a big dud in the end?
the AI will come with quantum computing. Getting that done in a cheaper method in the home requires installing clean rooms with absolute zero temps in your PC case. Might take some time, but if it's all remote on a centralized system, like Google / IBM / etc already do, and we hook in, we give away privacy automatically
Yeah we need to make it work in exsisting PCs and idk if that will ever happen
we need more than that, we need neural interfaces across microwave bandwidth at the least.
maybe beyond that even who knows
perhaps there is a communication layer we haven't discovered yet
Quantum computing will be used to create more efficient/enhanced software for sure in the next few years. Just indirectly
Well the theoretical science is out there. Tesla was onto it. The HAARP setup always made me question if it was for testing comms methods. Radio, MW, etc. Given 100 years from now, based on current tech, the last 100 years of tech advancement, and potential from science fiction that always creeps in, you could say humans will be the interface to the Great Chinese AI ๐ (just hedging my bets)
Imagine using the internet to create an AI
Each PC would just be a node that displays a 1 or 0
imagine when we have AI that can code itself. You just install a cloud setup. Setup a task. Let it run it's course. Instant C++ coder. Or better yet, copy/paste one already done. https://aidaily.co.uk/articles/the-ai-that-codes-itself
Every boy needs a dog and every programme needs a programmer, right? Well it seems that the new deep learning AI, BAYOU, has decided to shatter this status quo by writing code of its own. Created by researchers at Rice University, with funding from the US Department of Defe...
@signal citrus @carmine frigate I'm bringing up old stuff, but I got my 2800 rated ram to 3400 (was 3200), no errors, going to push 3600 and see how I do xD
there is lil use in that
? threadripper loves fast ram?
but go nuts ๐
Like sure it can code itself, but would it code anything useful?
I didn't do much, downloaded a new bios, picked the 3200 xmp profile, upped the speed to 3400, and set my soc to +0.1v
other than that its stock
@raw rose if it can code itself, it can make rulesets from markov chain based code systems (you can put it in the comments for the AI to read a methods context/usage). Which means if the task is correct, the method will be
Someone recently got a quantum computer working, sort of. It was calculating something insane. It did what would currently take thousands of years in minutes but it wasn't accurate.
thats google
maybe floating point isn't accurate in quantum scope
Yo dawg, I heard you like to code
but it can only calculate stuff if u can calculate back if u got the answer cuz its unstable
So we made code that can code
its a crazy concept , infinite possibilities
almost like the universe. All based on some math that boils down to binary
Well limited by storage space
The advances on storage are also mind boggling
storing into DNA boggles the mind
if we can create nanotube structures that carry synthesized DNA strands, we could have some huge SSD devices one day. That would be awesome for my Unreal Drives :p
I dont understand why they don't start with a common sense boundary. Some of those tests were utterly moot
maybe.
everytime I see AI learning though, it's beautiful. I would like to start a project for something, but it's a big change from game dev. I would have to spend all my time on it
I would like to do an AI music creator. Something I could setup streaming and just leave, let people listen and rate the music, then use that data to improve it.
I toyed with the idea in UE4 but im not sure
im still looking for a name
Jeremy
Name for a game is easy
How
think of a word
jobbies
what kind of game is it?
its many modes inside the game
Like stick fight lets say
tdm dm race death race etc
Stick fight. Hows that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMp6pq6_QjI
@zinc matrix are there any useful things after this Attempts ๐
An AI learns to park a car in a parking lot in a 3D physics simulation. The simulation was implemented using Unity's ML-Agents framework (https://unity3d.com/machine-learning). The AI consists of a deep Neural Network with 3 hidden layers of 128 neurons each. It is trained wit...
i mean its like the modes
but the player and its animation must be like Human fall flat
do you have a screenie?
alpha fight then
Time to go play some Destiny 2. I can't wait to see what my second destiny is. Because the first one lied.
this is the alpha marketing
Pre-Pre-Pre-Alpha Release 
ponkkis how its going ?
Can i PM you with small question if its possible please ? @zinc matrix ?
Ok Sorry ๐ no worry
but no one smarter than the other Someone just know in this Section better than you xD
Yes ik ๐ i just was looking for someone who can take a look into my project and tell me if my work is wrong or true and maybe i can pay for him 
so im confused where to ask something like that
Yes true but My question was unSortable ๐
i will try my luck and ask its more than advice will took maybe 1 hour or less
Thanks โค๏ธ
everyone gangsta until u need to twerk
@fallow finch this is actually incredible
loving smart AI
xD what is the incredible
Yes it took ages and still cant park it perfect ๐
truee
what you guys think more user friendly for someone just starting UE or unity
For artists, Unreal hands down. Not even up for debate.
unity
Neither is close to user friendly imo ๐
These types of software packages tend to be bloated, have poor UX and tend to focus on performance over usability
Its like asking if Maya or Zbrush is more user friendly, they are both really difficult to master
Id recommend modding an existing game to people starting out, dont even bother with a full game engine until you can make something
Zbrush is a bit of a different beast.
They all are, if I hadnt used 3dsmax for 20yrs Id be completely lost
They are all beasts that is, big, bulky, hairy, full of bugs
With Maya if you really know the software you can generally make something good.
With Zbrush if you don't have the art knowledge from outside the software, no amount of knowing what the buttons do is going to help you.
About the same for any application really, if you cant write a letter outside of Word you wont be able to write one any better inside of Word ๐
Zbrush isn't all that bulky compared to something like Maya or Blender or a game engine.
No more than something like Photoshop.
There are a few tools that you can get lost in the depth of.
Sounds like personal bias to me
Zbrush simply has a less broad set of things it tries to be.
New users cant find shit in most applications, including photoshop. We just take the ability to boot em up and use em for granted, if youre new, you got alot more to learn than just UE4 or Unity
Where something like Blender tries to be everything.
From an artist perspective I would say start with 3d modeling for at least a year before you start using a game engine.
Yeah Zbrush isnt one of those everything apps but its UI is hardly user friendly, Im sure the learning curve is reasonable but my point is that if youre new you got alot of ground to cover. Like alot alot
Life is hard.
Even my friends who make games dont understand it when I say making games can be one of the largest challenges you'll ever face. They just keep on designing the next Star Citizen like sigh
Big expansive living breathing universe where everyone has jobs... <ragequit>
Coming from all the software I have used as a visual artist and then starting to use an audio program like FL Studio, I found it to be one of the most non-intuitive things ever.
So many things worked the opposite of what I thought was logical.
My favourite is the computer science geeks who think they can write games just cuz they know how to code, that ones always funny to watch
5 minutes later... I cant find Main()
Well, if I was trying to make a curriculum on it, knowing how games work and the roles, steps, and limitations of a game project would be a totally separate class than the classes on how to use different software.
Someone for example could be a master level Zbrush artist and be amazing at Substance Painter and know how to build levels in Unreal, but be totally clueless on what makes a game fun or marketable.
Focus on the areas in which your person strengths are and build on those in relation to game making.
https://github.com/adambrown/WorldKit
I haven't had time to work on WorldKit for quite a while now. It seems pretty unlikely I'll ever get paid for it, so I decided to upload it to GitHub in its current state with all the prototype and experimental code in.
Maybe someone wil...
Kickstarter failed last year and instead of scrapping it he decided to put it up on github with a GPL license. Would be neat to see people come together to build it up as a free alternative to World Machine and the like
i slept a lot, nice
@raw rose waiting for my feet to try out after shower
before wearing socks ๐ฉ
non-vegans ๐ always at fault
corona. yup. even that.
@zinc matrix you know this is a ue4 community right?
yes
You know that ue4 has nothing to do with food lifestyle right?
it can be interesting tho
No
Only for vegans
Then where is the vegan channel?
Im a beangan, I only eat beans
Yes, im very young
Im old enough to remember the time when we ate our own young
@sage tendon see, environment is not a vegan thingy.
My beard exist of horse hair, but dont tell anyone
you gotta learn that first
My beard is made from norse hair
If its not a vegan thingy, why do you link them to non-vegans. On the other point: why do you keep talking vegan stuff in a ue4 community whilst never speaking about ue4?
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@sage tendon cause its non-vegans fault
Ugh
and cause you don't know what im talking in this server
I smell a troll
I blocked a troll or two or three
You're right, don't feed it
I will concur now
thanks for stopping the provocation
I like Unreal Engine
my feet dried.. now i go to make food..
ITS VERY LATE THO!
i should be eating 2h ago..
@rare sparrow the problem with all those fancyy terrain generator is one (in context of games)
unless you are doing Star Citizen, the scale for gameplay is always off
use them as post process is also bit pointless as it might break gameplay
this kind of tools is best when integrated directly with level editor, where you can see and test scale exactly to fit game
damn i love it https://i.imgur.com/iyykx93.png
now i can generate .Json files with armor structs
and the player's memory will only contain the structs he currently needs, and nothing more
After watching the Unreal Engine 5 Demo I had to try and make something inspired by that, in Dreams. Iโm completely blown away by the fidelity of UE5 and the possibilities near-unlimited polygons could mean for games. What epic has achieved with their Engine is utterly amazing...
Some can't even if they wanted to grow beards (i.e. hygiene rules at work or how their body works), and some don't want to.
Cottage Weekend
Rob brings a girl to our annual cottage weekend for the first time in eight years, rounding out our group to an even six. Initially, we are wary of including someone we didnโt quite know, but it isnโt too long before she wins us over with her friendly, laid-back personality. And, as a bonus, sheโs brought with her salted caramel cupcakes, an after-dinner treat that we devour as we sit around a campfire exchanging the scariest stories weโd ever heard.
โYou go first, new girl,โ we encourage.
She shakes her head. โIโd actually like to go last, if you donโt mind. I want to hear all your stories first.โ
Most of the tales are urban legends: โHumans Can Lick, Tooโ; โArenโt You Glad You Didnโt Turn Out the Lightโ; and several versions of a young couple meeting an unfortunate fate while trapped in a car at the dead of night.
Then itโs her turn. โHonestly, stories with blood and gore donโt scare me. Theyโre so over the top, so implausible, that theyโre more ridiculous than they are frightening.
โWhatโs scary to me are the mindfucks,โ she continues, tapping an index finger to her temple. โThe unexpected. The unknown. Not ghosts, mind you, or chain wielding maniacs, but ordinary people like you and I.
โFor example, a stranger spends a weekend at the cottage with her boyfriend and his friends,โ she says as she holds up her uneaten cupcake, โand feeds them some homemade pastries.โ
โญ i dont find this scary
you?
- pastries may contain milk and eggs
Story may contain cool bro
Totally not taken from sweeny todd
Im wondering when there wont be sale on the launcher ๐
ah, my credit card is safe.
You are a credit card.
I was a credit card now Im a debit card
I'm just a gift card to blockbuster video.
then you can afford this
yeah I dont want that ๐
Yes you do.
nuh uh
if I buy that, and use it, then I have to make sure everything else fits that style, which it currently doesnt
Use QixMix and change the style.
uses substance
soon we wont even call em pixels... they'll be quixels ๐ฎ
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UK government not getting away with rules for one of their own, and one for everyone else. So far every reporter is asking them same questions ๐
Hey all! Is there anyone here who identifies as female or non-binary and is interested in esports? I'm looking to connect with more people. Please feel free to DM me โค๏ธ
How to find out what channel in discord make a sound and disable it?
Should display a speaker icon on that server tab/logo/icon thing
@compact sedge just curious, where is the male label?
sigh, I changed the character/world scale in my game and now I have to remake my rpg town, but I've been staring at it for a few hours now and I have no idea where to start ๐ฆ
the one on the old scale was based on a tilemap and all in boring right angles, so I wanna change that too
How to mute this POPUP sound from discord if someone writes something?
If I mute a channel - then I don't see if someone writes anything.
Thanks
i don't get there PR system sometimes
its a simple UFUNCTION wrapper around an engine function
and its been shoved and ignored, like 
@zinc matrix try to play your game and find out :p
what is the player viewpoint?
is it like camera location?
but the player is in the camera not the 3rd person char
Returns Player's Point of View For the AI this means the Pawn's 'Eyes' ViewPoint For a Human player, this means the Camera's ViewPoint
see the description ๐
camera location breaks in stereo
the description doesnt say enough id have to open visual to see what it actually does
but mweh mayB someday ๐
im all in favor of exposing it to BP tho
like why not
@dense storm Why was the built in perception a pain?
so I've come to the conclusion that Fuse CC's character UV maps suck because their vertex/edge placement on their meshes sucks asscrack
rather than creating proper faces, they split edges in all these stupid ways that ultimately prevents you from creating any sort of UV layout that would be practical or optimal for production
I made a packed uv layout for legs as example and its so skewed and stretched because of these damn edge forks

