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rugged storm
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how can i use a visa gift card

north torrent
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Should just type it in like any credit card.

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Once it is activated.

rugged storm
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alright

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so just select this?

north torrent
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You don't have a bank account?

rugged storm
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no

north torrent
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Well, you might want to get one of those.

rugged storm
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What's the age to even have a bank account?

north torrent
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7

rugged storm
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oh wow

north torrent
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I don't think there is one, anyone can have a bank account.

rugged storm
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and I could use that for online purchases

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if I have money on it

tulip orbit
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safer to use a credit card for online

north torrent
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You just put some cash in the bank and then use your debit card to spend the money in the bank.

rugged storm
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oh then again I don't think I can do it

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the debit card

north torrent
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Do people still have credit cards in 2020?

tulip orbit
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I do

rugged storm
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what would I enter in the credit card thing

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for the billing address

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for the visa gift card

north torrent
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Did you activate the Visa gift card?

rugged storm
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haven't bought it yet

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i just want to make sure i can even use it

north torrent
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I thought you entered in that information when you activated the card.

rugged storm
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and not waste $40

north torrent
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But I haven't used one in a while. Might want to go to the website and check.

rugged storm
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just really trying to make sure

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since my dad is strict

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if i mess up

north torrent
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I would go on the website.

rugged storm
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which website

north torrent
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If you want to get a Visa gift card, then Visa.

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If you want to get a Mastercard gift card, then Mastercard.

rugged storm
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not finding much

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oh

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oh wait

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i can buy on microsoft store

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another nvm

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only for xbox one

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nvm won't be able to even get it

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he changed his mind for some reason on even getting any game

north torrent
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Well, I can't help you there.

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Just make a game instead of buying one.

plucky pagoda
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Ugh. I spent 5 years acclimating a variety of bamboo to the climate here and it's finally coming in strong this year and the idiots cutting trees down next door just trampled over an entire bed of new shoots.

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My neighbor is a great guy but he tries to get help around his house for dirt cheap and it gets a bit crazy. The guy that did his driveway was so messed up when he poured the concrete in that he buried some of his tools in it.

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He had a brick wall put in around his patio and the guy made vertical columns of single bricks stacked all around it and then mortared between the columns.

north torrent
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You should kick it over.

plucky pagoda
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Nah, I like my neighbor. He just doesn't know how to hire contractors.

north torrent
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I didn't say kick your neighbor over.

plucky pagoda
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I think he's afraid to stand up to them or something. He gets me to yell at them a lot.

north torrent
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Introduce him to the internet and how to search for reputable contractors...

plucky pagoda
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My cousin owns one of the biggest ones around. She does rehabs of entire sections of Dayton. But they won't work for nothing.

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It's funny and aggravating at the same time.

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I love this bamboo. It gets these black and white rings at each node when it matures and this is the first year those bands are coming in.

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(Not mine)

north torrent
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Just watch out for pandas.

plucky pagoda
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Trying to but so far all the traps are empty.

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Putting in a coy pond if we stay at this house. The grove of bamboo over by it will form a half circle around it and a seating area.

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I want to try and get one of these varieties to grow up here. They're not well suited to it so it'd be challenging but maybe not impossible.

north torrent
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You just need to sing to it in Chinese.

plucky pagoda
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I want it to live not run away.

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I can maybe do an offkey dirge

north torrent
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Sing some Chinese opera.

zinc matrix
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Me singing opera always sound like Chinese. No matter which language I use.

plucky pagoda
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Yeah. I would love to be able to get it to grow where I live.

tulip orbit
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All I can grow is weeds

plucky pagoda
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I could probably bend it down and cover it for the coldest parts of the year and it get it to survive.

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There's a guy further north of us who does that with a fig tree. Covers it, not bends it. He wraps it in tarps or something every winter.

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I've been mowing over a few beds of tulips since we bought this house and they come back just as strong every year.

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Yeah, they look nice for a short while though and no maintenance. I try and plant stuff that takes care of itself.

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A lot of perennial ground covers.

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Everyone's panicked about meat. Last two orders we've placed all the roasts have been canceled.

north torrent
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My apartment is stocked up with lots of food.

plucky pagoda
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Yeah we are stocked up too. But I order a roast or two every week

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I've got a lot of people to feed.

north torrent
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Why don't you have your own pigs?

plucky pagoda
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All the butchers are booked for months or I'd buy one and split it with my neighbor.

north torrent
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Order from China, we have plenty of pigs here.

plucky pagoda
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@zinc matrix They're done. Changed their nick to add Carnivore Now to it. I have even less time for that BS.

north torrent
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I've never seen a bat.

plucky pagoda
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They're either just trolling or lack the convictions of their ranting, either way no time for that.

north torrent
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I've never been to Wuhan.

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I'm about 800km from Wuhan.

sage tendon
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Speaking about the K-Person?

north torrent
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No, Velcro.

sage tendon
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Oooh

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The V

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Not the ue5 but the reversed NV

north torrent
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Karol is a Unity dude. Velcro doesn't do game design at all.

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Either way, neither one is all that interested in Unreal or making games.

sage tendon
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Why would someone be here if not using ue4 at all

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True

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Its like procrastinating

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But then a bit more interactive

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Pff what a noob

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Everyone knows that Java is the language of mankind

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Btw is it just me or did the game jam went from 3 weeks to 3 days?

north torrent
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I tried to share a bunch of tasty Megascan vegetables, fruits, and bread...

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But he doesn't like game design.

sage tendon
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What can you expect from a man who channels all his hatred in to plantea genocide

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(I had to google plantea to be honest)

north torrent
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A planet genocide?

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Sounds extreme.

sage tendon
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No, plantea

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Plants and stuff

plucky pagoda
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I thought I'd seen him post something dev related once or twice but I could be wrong.

sage tendon
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What can you do?

plucky pagoda
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Ohio, where you can use both heat and A/c in the same 24 hour period

north torrent
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I can make tacos.

sage tendon
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I prefer boritos

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Taco shell is too crunchy and hard for me

north torrent
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I don't know how to fold the tortilla.

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I can make soft tacos.

sage tendon
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I just use it as pancake and put the rest as topping on it

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If im motivated, i finish it of in the oven

north torrent
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I don't own an oven.

sage tendon
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And yes, there is a Mortal Kombat voice saying "Finish Him!"

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(Its me, i just pretend im the announcer)

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Why dont you have an oven?

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How do you make pizza?

north torrent
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I order it and the guy brings it to my door.

sage tendon
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Weird question, is there a sushi pizza there?

north torrent
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You can get seafood pizza, but it isn't sushi once you cook the pizza.

sage tendon
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Good point

north torrent
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Shrimp pizza, squid pizza, I even saw tuna but wouldn't touch that with a 5 meter pole.

sage tendon
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Raw pizza dough would be gross

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Tuna pizza is common here

north torrent
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Blasphemy.

plucky pagoda
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Sushi is not always raw.

north torrent
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I like duck pizza.

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Shrimp and calamari is as far as I will go.

sage tendon
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Is duck compairable to chicken?

north torrent
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I saw salmon and mango on the menu once and ran like hell and never went back to that place again.

plucky pagoda
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They have a really good shrimp scampi pizza at the place down the street.

north torrent
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Duck is very different than chicken, actually.

sage tendon
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Its still on my bucket list

plucky pagoda
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Garlic butter, shrimp, cheese. Flat bread crust and stone oven.

sage tendon
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Weirdly enough I got to taste alligator way faster >.>

north torrent
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Chicken doesn't have a lot of flavor, it is pretty generic.

Duck has a distinct taste.

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Go to a Chinese Restaurant that has Beijing Roast Duck. It is roasted to be crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside.

sage tendon
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"Quack quack nom nom" is so much catchier than "Tok tok nom nom"

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Most chinese restaurants are too westernized to actually get a valid chinese meal

north torrent
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Duck is one thing I would never be able to cook.

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You have to Google one of the authentic ones.

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There should be at least 1 or two if you live in a major city.

sage tendon
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Would you redommend it?

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Recommend*

north torrent
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Everyone should try it at least once in their life.

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I was given the head of the duck once...

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I want to eat a bear.

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And a yak.

sage tendon
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i want to try all edible ones

zinc matrix
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e

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chatttteerss

dense atlas
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I quite like tuna on pizza, it's better if you don't use stinky skipjack. tuna, red onion, black olives and chilli peppers. If I eat skipjack tuna from a can I have to put cumin on it to get over the smell.

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Peking duck is delicious! Actually anything served with hoisin sauce is.

thorny dock
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this is how we handled anti-virus pre John Mcafee going insane

gleaming hill
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I'm being pavlov'd into wanting steak everytime I see the word "Velcro"
@tulip orbit it's the new drinking game except with steak. He talks about veganism and we eat a steak.

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when i was kid i've tried moose, reindeer and bear but can't quite remember the taste, but i remember we ate alot of those ๐Ÿ™‚
@zinc matrix I tried crocodile and kangaroo. Disgusting

solar nebula
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When I was a kid, I was a child

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Life was good

north torrent
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I'm drinking chocolate flavored coffee and eating coffee flavored chocolate...

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Life is odd.

solar nebula
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Enjoy chocolate while it can still be grown @north torrent, you're doing it 100% correctly

north torrent
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I do like chocolate.

pearl compass
solar nebula
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I would blow a whistle, so I'm sold

thorny dock
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There used to be a developer who regularly would do AMA's on reddit, he worked on ratchet and clank IIRC, he goes by the "Bidet Lord", and drops some great knowledge mixed with great bidet facts. Real game changing stuff

plucky pagoda
vast heron
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My free GTA V Character.

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He's John Wick ๐Ÿ˜„ Fortnite than GTA V you can't escape him.

rugged storm
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i'm so confused

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every single model won't open anymore

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not even in blender

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when i open in blender i just get the message saying invalid header

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it's every file

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not even images or sounds

fathom wadi
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Feeling artistic today so I just went and rendered the void of space with full raytracing and infinite polys.

hasty cargo
fathom wadi
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wait. I made a mistake. I had it set to zero bounces by default. I'll set it to 1.

raw rose
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Needs more polygons

pearl elk
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Vnreal Vngine

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Its not even a V8 ๐Ÿ˜›

green horizon
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to me it looks like GTA5 "V"

raw rose
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GTAue5

pearl elk
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I can make a motor vehicle from that many sticks

proven thorn
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@pearl elk How you doing buddy?

pearl elk
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Yeah pretty good, living out in the middle of no where has its benefits ๐Ÿ˜›

zinc matrix
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very evil moonso

proven thorn
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Fair enough, some would say the same for me.

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Decided to try to reintegrate myself back into the Unreal community. Been away for far too long.

pearl elk
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It can be a distraction, especially when youre busy. People come and go ๐Ÿ™‚

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Keen to test Nanite, its like static meshes on steriods

proven thorn
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Yeah, I'm still just as busy, if not busier.

pearl elk
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I was playing Dark Pictures Anthology game last night and I realized there's quite a few of those cinematic type games which use UE4 so they will see a bump with UE5 stuff. Thats kinda exciting to consider

tidal ivy
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oh wow, people actually played that ๐Ÿ˜…

pearl elk
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Ive played Planet of the Apes too, sometimes I like to just relax so those games are a different pace

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Ive got Until Dawn and Hidden Agenda as well ๐Ÿ˜›

north torrent
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I've got a can of corn.

patent star
zinc matrix
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i will get nightmares soon

mild root
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@rugged storm you have backups, right?

zinc matrix
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damn

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i like my progress

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holy god

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its too good for me

soft night
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need animatronix design mask

rugged storm
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i have backups

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on another drive

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but they're corrupted on there too

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i get the same error

alpine fern
zinc matrix
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EAEAEEAE

zinc matrix
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I BROKE

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a feature

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and dont know how to fix ffs @alpine fern

fluid bloom
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man, epic launcher is a huge dumpster fire

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it says game is running but it is not

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restarting launcher doesn't help

zinc matrix
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turning off process too much of a rocket science

carmine frigate
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@fluid bloom civ6

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clear case of after the fact

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not saying the launcher is a quality piece of software tho

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i like how in civ6 you have your epic friendlist but it doesnt do anything but show ppl online ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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I wish I had an epic friendlist, I think mines kinda okayish

pearl elk
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"The 2020 Monaco Grand Prix was set to take place today. Instead, there won't be a race on the streets of Monte Carlo for the first time since 1954. "

zinc matrix
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BrOoOoOoO

tulip orbit
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My code worked first try ๐Ÿคฏ

zinc matrix
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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hackerss be proud

tulip orbit
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its almost as if I know what I'm doing ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

vapid jetty
mild root
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@rugged storm have you figured out what is going on and how to fix it?

north torrent
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Level of loyalty to the Communist Party.

mild root
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does anyone have a good article on file management discipline under windows?

rugged storm
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no

mild root
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I am at the point when I need to separate files by origin and purpose

rugged storm
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I tried chkdsk and thought that might fix it but didn't work

mild root
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downloaded content and generated content, data that has to be backed up and data that can be downloaded again if deleted

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so far I use windows logic for that

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/home/user/videos for videos I made (capture, renders, etc) /home/public/videos for downloaded stuff, e.g. movies

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windows libraries to group them into one place

rugged storm
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it's only the things in that folder

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weird

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everything else in the drive is fine

mild root
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and backup script that copies selected folders to different drives into /home/[tenant]/backup/[folder]

rugged storm
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it's so weird to me because everything was fine before

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and now all of a sudden i can't open any of them

mild root
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yes, sounds weird

rugged storm
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even though I did nothing to it

mild root
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like malware that messed up your personal files

rugged storm
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I haven't downloaded anything that I don't trust

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and right after i say that

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oh nvm

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false positive

mild root
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i hate windows defender

rugged storm
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I have firefox, origin, gfwl.

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and some of the games i have are from microsoft store and steam

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that's about it

mild root
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windows defender tends to slow down unreal heavy io operations

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weird

rugged storm
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i'm trying to find some good unreal engine tutorials

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since most of the ones i've found require me to buy some things

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and the free ones stop uploading

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they just stop

zinc matrix
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guys

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I made something SICK omg!!

rugged storm
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alright was nice talking i'm going to check to see if there is some sort of malware on my pc

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just in case

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but haven't noticed anything weird besides that folder

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no threats detected

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malwarebytes

zinc matrix
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I cannot stand

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the fact.. my game.. is unifnished

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i most impatient being..

fallow finch
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Hi guys

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Can you help me with The Game name please im confused and im not expert with this names

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I was thinking about this Name "Sleepy fighter game"

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The Game is Very Similer to Stickfight but 3rd Person and the players moving like Human fall flat

zinc matrix
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damn bro

fallow finch
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Yes bro

zinc matrix
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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i wish i didnt lose menu

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took me few weeks to make it

hazy oar
open pawn
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does anyone know how to fix mic picking up headset sounds, Im using razer nari ultimate

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if you know please ping me, I couldnt find anything on google

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ive messed with the synapse settings, but not much, there is still a little bit that can get picked up

rugged storm
tough sierra
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I know mike action is a bit extreme, but it'd be nice to see him on the UE4 engine.

sage tendon
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@open pawn you mean how to make it?

open pawn
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how do you mean make it? @sage tendon I have that issue, it happens 4/10 times

sage tendon
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How do you have that as "issue"?

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If when recording, well dont start recording until you have your headset on?

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Or if you mean that your mic picks up the speaker sounds, there is software that cancels that out

carmine frigate
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still cant do darude sandstorm ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tough sierra
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILfUuBLfzGI
20 mins in is the interesting part. We really need something like this built into the engine so it's this easy to get the performance necessary for high entity count games.

Learn how to get started using Unity ECS.
โœ… Get the Project files and Utilities at https://unitycodemonkey.com/video.php?v=ILfUuBLfzGI

Unity DOTS Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9-WkwdDoNY

If you have any questions post them in the comments and I'll do my best to ...

โ–ถ Play video
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I'm not a fan of C# at all but that burst compiler obliterated my expectations from that video demonstration.

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It'd be fun to do a raw performance comparison, and see exactly how much work is involved with each.

alpine fern
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burst compiler is op

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well

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burst just calls llvm with a lot of info about what can't alias

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so I guess llvm is what's actually op

tough sierra
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Clever.

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I kinda wish it were that easy to use instanced static meshes with an imported ECS engine.

alpine fern
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implement your ECS with niagara instead br_big_brain

tough sierra
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It's doable but i've yet to figure out how to get past the one issue where the editor crashes, unless maybe I slap it in an UObject.

alpine fern
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then you get overpowered GPU-based draw call generation and culling on top of free transform updates

tough sierra
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Maybe for specific systems that aren't too branchy.

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Nice thought though.

alpine fern
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can have a million cubes flying around and it works

tough sierra
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If that works with a physics engine that'd be really impressive.

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Even if it's basic AABB

alpine fern
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no physics of course

tough sierra
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For games with high entity counts honestly an AABB type of physics would be good enough most times.

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I've never put logic on the gpu through custom code as of yet, but that's interesting to wonder about.

alpine fern
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niagara is very nice there

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you only worry about the update logic and it takes care of writing a sensible compute shader from that

tough sierra
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Impressive.

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I've not given convex physics a real stab, but making an AABB physics engine I find is fairly possible to have a pretty flat layout.

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Am using some tricks where i'd have some fligs to tell if an index is valid or not for add/removing bodies without moving bodies that are already valid.

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So that one can have a valid index for the body's duration.

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And you don't need an array of pointers to bodies.

alpine fern
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explicit max object counts are very sketchy

tough sierra
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I need to swap out the isValid buffer with actual bitflags again but it was bugged earlier, in theory you could search about 512 bodies in a single instruction to see if any one of them happen to be invalid.

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Well i'm not a fan of unnecessary malloc.

alpine fern
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there doesn't seem to be a technical reason for these limits

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like it's not to fit something in 16 bit indices or whatever

tough sierra
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For the max_bodies maybe not but the overlappingBodies part there is.

alpine fern
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but then why should 120000 elements be impossible rather than run slightly slower?

tough sierra
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Could just change it with a compile flag of sorts. If your making a game with lots of entities you know your max limits.

alpine fern
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max limits don't necessarily exist if users can influence it at all

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see factorio gigabases

tough sierra
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True, though for rts games you can impose a strict cap.

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You have interesting points though.

alpine fern
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(I still don't understand how factorio runs as well as it does)

tough sierra
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They are using components in some fashion, exactly how so I'm not sure.

alpine fern
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unless it was secretly redesigned after they posted the blogs one or 2 years ago, they aren't

tough sierra
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Did they say what design they went with?

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Being able to shove millions of entities per tick is pretty impressive, on one flipping thread at that.

alpine fern
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I guess they moved the things that actually do a lot each frame out to separate systems

tough sierra
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Err supposedly one thread.

alpine fern
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because the main entities are some crazy inheritance hierarchy and iterated through pointers

tough sierra
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You have to be shitting me.

alpine fern
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several blog posts mention this

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i barely remember one having a class diagram of some subset of this

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there was even one about experiments with manual prefetching to make that loop less shitty

tough sierra
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The dream.

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Been wanting to test some prefetching instructions.

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On my old shitty cpu the physics engine I had only simulated 25k moving rectangles, though single threaded, I was expecting 100k using all threads on a quad on low end hardware. But that still doesn't feel as good as whatever the heck factorio did.

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Err 25k per tick at 30 ticks a second.

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Not even 60 ticks per second.

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I just realized the grid system means that their own custom physics can be super optimized for that niche situation.

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They could somewhat fake smooth motion through interpolation.

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Using a delta.

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And the width/height of every physics body could be less than a byte large each.

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Wait I just realized vehicles aren't axis aligned, they are convex, I think.

tough sierra
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As a more common reference point, if you were the kind of person who took formal proofs in geometry, decided it was mostly trivial, and it was easier to just prove most things from basic principles readily and easily rather than memorizing it, you probably have the logical ability to handle C and C++ well. If it was a struggle at all, you should save yourself the effort and stick with Python or C# (you will never create a program like Factorio in Python though, it is outside the capabilities of the language no matter how good you are with it).
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I wonder what formal proofs is.

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Sounds like my kind of thing.

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Ooooh.

alpine fern
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a way to significantly overcomplicate a statement until no one can understand it anymore

tough sierra
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Meh the whole math thing escapes me, i'd rather build things out of logic than memorize rules, which seems to be what math is about.

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I already brought that whole perspective up way too many times here though.

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Was hoping it was something one could use to express a problem in a way that makes sense. Than just a bunch of symbols with no foundation.

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I really really really really really hate memorizing stuff without any kind of relational learning.

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They started the project with two programmers, then blew into 12 I think.

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That's... Insane.

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Maybe it was successful because it attracted all the right kind of help.

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It seems that programmers are interested in that kind of game in the first place.

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You'd never see a solo project like that.

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Not even just a solo programmer with help from atrists.

raw rose
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I have ideas sometimes

thorny dock
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perfect timing, there are some great character models on sale you could grab right now

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one of those in particular would make a great melee weapon

marsh garden
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Real talk now that i coded i finally can say im better than yandere dev

raw rose
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The Trump model lmfao

marsh garden
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Trump

raw rose
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in that sale

hasty cargo
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why does youtube keep recommending I watch morons dissect this yandre unity project

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I'm almost sure the yt algorithm pushes drama bullshit a lot

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"this room model is all one merged model and not individual models for the furniture, thats bad!"

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"It also has overlapping UV's meaning it was made from many different assets with different textures"

raw rose
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Turn off personalized recommendations

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Or log out

hasty cargo
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im never logged in

raw rose
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????

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Log out of google entirely

hasty cargo
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yes exactly

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these videos end up appearing in recommended

raw rose
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Use firefox

hasty cargo
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I don't use google anything

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this isn't a cookies issue

bold fulcrum
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it knows. Embrace it.

raw rose
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VPN

hasty cargo
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Deathrey I will fight at the hot gates for as long as possible

raw rose
bold fulcrum
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๐Ÿšช

hasty cargo
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on another note here is a really old basic tree asset in unity default lighting, now try to get this nice neutral look in ue4

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I feel its impossible

raw rose
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Eh it's okay. I've seen a lot of really nice looking trees in UE4

hasty cargo
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my challenge would be for someone to try to recreate that look in ue4

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thinks can look better, or more cinematic so to speak

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but to make in neutral and easy on the eyes like that

bold fulcrum
#

What is the complication though ?

hasty cargo
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I'm not sure if its ue4s tonemapper or something else

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I've tweaked and tweaked and tweaked but it always has that contrasty, slightly over saturated look

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part of it is TAA too I think, it turns those nice fluffy leaves into blobs

tidal ivy
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does look like there's no AA in the above shot

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and TAA does not play nice with foliage

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I wouldn't use it in a foliage heavy environment

bold fulcrum
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like you have a choice ๐Ÿ™‚

hasty cargo
#

there might also be the effect of the forward rendering or msaa

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I remember with ue4 fr, with msaa, the masked materials would get an almost translucent effect, but without sorting problems

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making leaf / branch cards less blobby and obvious

bold fulcrum
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Everything looks better with MSAA

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but world thinks differently

hasty cargo
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It does 100%

stiff crystal
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as long as MSAA is implemented properly

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does UE4 still have those shadow artifacts on the mesh edges when using MSAA?

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I'm also using Unity's HDRP on forward-only mode but can't really use MSAA there as their SSR doesn't work properly with MSAA

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their SSR works fine on forward itself

zinc matrix
tidal ivy
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it's avoiding flying directly over populated areas, which is likely a requirement

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not sure why Heddesheim is apparently omitted

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may have been a destination

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in fact yeah, it took off from the airport, did whatever it needed to do in Heddesheim, then proceeded to the hospital in Wieblingen (or the other way around)

zinc matrix
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ive never seen that behaviour tho

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this heli has no restrictions at all

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it is flying exactly over populated areas.

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heddesheim is not destination. look at the lower part of the image. you see the height of the heli.

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it landed on the airport!

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@tidal ivy

sage tendon
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maybe dump fuel or something

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call them and ask

north torrent
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Should I play Civilization 6 or Total War 3 Kingdoms?

zinc matrix
#

yes

north torrent
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Dual monitor for dual games.

rain steppe
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Should I learn UE engine?

bold fulcrum
#

I think UE should learn You.

north torrent
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If you have to ask, then no.

rain steppe
#

No really, I tried a few too many times, but never gone more than complete beginner and started to learn other stuff like Substance Designer or SpeedTree.

north torrent
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It all depends on what you want to do.

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If you want to make trees, then learn Speed Tree.

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Learning Unreal won't help you much at making trees.

tranquil sonnet
#

Unreal is a great way to put all your nice trees into a composition together though.

north torrent
#

If that's what you want to do.

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But if you don't know what you want to do, then there is no reason to just learn Unreal.

deep glen
#

learning to utilize ue4 can and will mean having to learn other software like substance, speedtree, or any other dcc app, and from time to time spend more time on those than ue4.

sage tendon
north torrent
#

I prefer the generate money node.

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Aka the Fortnite node.

zinc matrix
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guys

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idk what feature

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to implement

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now

north torrent
#

You could always just procrastinate.

vast heron
#

Popular multiplayer FPS games need luck factor, I observed without luck/randomness noobs can't win games.

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Noob/Casual players needs to 1st place every 10 games or so, you need a luck factor like Backgammon in Multiplayer for it so it will be popular

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Too much randomness will break the game for sure you need atleast %10-%20 chance for noob to kill Pro player

north torrent
#

I just play single player like a looser...

vast heron
#

no, I like singleplayer games, Singleplayer proper meal and Multiplayer junk food ๐Ÿ˜„

north torrent
#

Multiplayer games are only as fun as the people you play them with.

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So when it comes to online games, that means not very fun.

zinc matrix
#

find friends Mao Chan

vast heron
#

CO-OP is the best.

zinc matrix
#

tthen u can play minekraft

vast heron
#

CO-OP best of both worlds. Single and Multi ๐Ÿ˜„

north torrent
#

Most co-op games tend to lose out on the story aspect of single player games.

Though I see no reason why that should be true, it is just the pattern I see most of the time.

vast heron
#

I enjoyed playing Halo with my high school friends back in the day using Xbox 360, golden age of gaming Halo-1-2-3 was amazing for co-op.

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Halo Co-op is just great story is great also

north torrent
#

I think if done properly adding a second human to the equation could make a game with choices a lot more dynamic.

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But that's a difficult thing for a solo dev to experiment with. There is a certain level of scale required for such a thing.

vast heron
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Legendary Difficulty is even Pro players die in streams if you don't be careful so playing with a friend doesnt hurt.

#

For solo devs co-op is not required not necessary

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I was talking about medium to large projects

north torrent
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I like to experiment and prototype the things I speculate about.

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But I have yet to have the chance to try a two player story based game centered around the choices of each player and how those choices affect the story and the story of the other player.

vast heron
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Yes in co-op games, host player is the main hero, you are his/her bodyguard defending him/her completing objectives in the story.

zinc matrix
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HEHEHE

north torrent
#

That's not pushing the limits of games though.

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That's just going with the low hanging fruit.

vast heron
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There was a coop game with a great story wait a second it was made by EA

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A Way Out great interactive 2 player story

north torrent
#

I have that on EA Orgins.

vast heron
#

good ๐Ÿ™‚

#

I will complete my first level soon, I will share it with you guys.

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First level of my game using UE4 for Multiplayer.

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There are no character models or weapons so just stare ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
#

i ahve to add

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now...

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repairness.. of items..

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their condition.. state..

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this aint no eazy feat

vast heron
#

Is your game have item durability

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in fallout weapons getting worse after 100-200 rounds of continues firing same gun, you would need repair kit etc. Some guns more durable needed 400-500 rounds to hit broken state.

north torrent
#

If it is just another thing that only exists in a menu that gives you more menu work to do, I would cut it.

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If you can do something fun with it however, than it is a good idea. How does it add to the game?

vast heron
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I would not include weapon breaking mechanics to my FPS game if i'm not going for hyper realism or survival genre

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If i was going for hyper realistic than i would physically simulate each bullet exiting barrel with physics motion gasses releasing etc. real time ๐Ÿ˜„

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it would be just gun repairing, dismantling game at that point

north torrent
#

Scrolling through a menu isn't hyper realistic.

vast heron
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No I was not talking about that

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Menu stuff in Fallout is not realistic i aggree with you

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This is next gen guns will look like in video games

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every part customizable also will break with improper action

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you will need to maintain your gun in survival lols ๐Ÿ˜„

north torrent
#

I don't like pistols.

zinc matrix
#

i think bout saving file to hdd each time its durability(condition) changes (so after each hit)

vast heron
#

AK47 and M4A1 is my go to weapons.

zinc matrix
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but that will be ton of saving

north torrent
#

A shotgun?

vast heron
#

Spas 12

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AA 12

north torrent
#

I don't know... all guns look the same to me.

vast heron
#

KSG

north torrent
#

An AK47 is a pistol or a shotgun?

vast heron
#

AK47 is a rifle developed by Soviet Union, main weapon of Russian Military for many long time

north torrent
#

So for snipers?

vast heron
#

Are you joking. In news it is most seen weapon Kalashnikov

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Assault Rifle with 30 round magazine effective up to 300 meters.

north torrent
#

Isn't a gun just a gun?

vast heron
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I'm a gun nut but you are true 50% percent.

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Every gun just developed to kill or destroy things

rich quiver
vast heron
#

Black-Powder weapons, they are expensive and cool guns

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Original black powder weapons can be found in museums

vast heron
#

This is a crossbow, It's using a fiber to accelerate the bow (projectile) can kill a human easy.

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Small crossbow hand-held, large animals will survive it.

vast heron
#

You like historical cannons too, They were used with spears and bows.

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When first guns used in wars, it was taking too long to reload, and you need to reload after each shot, people were still using spears, bows and swords back then.

vast heron
#

but

north torrent
#

Is this a pistol or a shotgun?

vast heron
#

War, war never changes.

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It's a siege crossbow i think i don't know much about them.

north torrent
vast heron
#

I have Hyundai version this lasers are quite effective

vast heron
#

I would not want to be on receiving end of this gun ๐Ÿ˜„

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It can ignore body armor just drill a hole ๐Ÿ˜„

north torrent
#

I think I will stick to making games about fluffy animals with cute ears.

vast heron
#

I like fluffy animals. I would buy your games if you release them on steam

north torrent
#

Once Steam drops the cut they ask from developers to 15%.

vast heron
#

Do you sell them on Epic Store i have an account there too

north torrent
#

If Epic wanted my game on their store I would put it on there.

#

Smaller store means people might actually see my game.

vast heron
#

Is Epic selective about games

north torrent
#

Yes.

vast heron
#

You can still sell it on Steam and make GabeN rich thats only alternative

north torrent
#

There are a lot of alternatives.

vast heron
#

GOG

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HumbleBundle

north torrent
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Itch for example, or just having it on my own website to download.

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Nobody says you need to even use a store.

#

I could put my game on The Pirate Bay.

vast heron
#

I'm new to game development market, i'm learning new stuff here.

north torrent
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I want to mostly sell my game on usb drives to people who buy it in person.

vast heron
#

cool

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I would put a special code to my game to enable Blood graphics, I will sell game to kids, only with cheat-code you will enable blood. So I would able to sell both kids and adults

north torrent
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I refuse to take the whisky out of my game, so it will be rated for teen even though it is a children's game.

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Rated T for whisky drinking donkey

vast heron
#

Lol there are no violance or sexual it should not get T rating imo

north torrent
#

Fluffy donkeys who like to drink booze... Oh no!

#

Hide the small childs.

vast heron
#

Childs already know drinking too much alcahol is going to damage you.

#

getting drunk is stupid and dangerous if you are outside.

rain steppe
#

Ok...

zinc matrix
#

i so bored

icy furnace
#

tfw accidentally hit rebuild instead of build ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

north torrent
#

Only Unity devs get bored because Unity is such a boring tool to build with.

zinc matrix
#

nah

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nah bro

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im so close

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to finishing my mmo

north torrent
#

Zbrush = fun
Blender = fun
Substance Designer = fun
Unreal = fun
Unity = yawn...

zinc matrix
#

nah unity is the funniest

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bro

icy furnace
zinc matrix
#

total bro wukuwuku

icy furnace
#

i wonder how long unity engine build takes

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i have to use a custom UE build, so the rebuild option is always a constant risk lol

zinc matrix
#

bruh

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you mean like building the engine?

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or game build

icy furnace
#

the engine

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it takes like half an hour or more lol

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and this is a pretty beefy pc

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oh wow it finished already, only took 15 min hah

jovial talon
#

on latest ryzens it's 5 min ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
#

PHY your my god

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i follow u

rain summit
carmine frigate
#

6 hours w/o saving ๐Ÿ™‚

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there is a lesson here

zinc matrix
#

MY LESSON is to neverCRY

rustic gulch
#

hiya there lovely ppl new here

chilly igloo
#

Guys can some point me to some good materials (text/video) about difference between AMD Ryzen and Threadripper series in terms of performance? Mostly i see something look a bit marketing tricks like "Threadripper is for content creators", but same time, every performance test which i saw on youtube clearly shows what threadripper have lower performance comparison to ryzen series in most cases (blender, cinema) and i think probably, something like baking lightmaps also would be faster on ryzen series.
In my local shops threadripper are mostly high priced.
The only thing that i know atm is that threadrippers can handle quad channel memory, but im not really sure how much its influence the resulting performance.
Generally, currently threadrippers look nore like marketing trick to me. Im wrong?

rustic gulch
#

I've got a question I have a laptop i3 with 4gb ram and I wanted to ask can i develop games using this setup? in UE4

north torrent
#

If you are not so rich that money doesn't matter, just buy a Ryzen.

mossy nexus
#

That laptop would struggle @rustic gulch

rustic gulch
#

hmm what can I do then ? gaming laptops are way expensive and I could build a pc but then I can't work with a pc everywhere

mossy nexus
#

The latest threadrippers eat any kind of rendering you throw at them, but you need to have enough RAM for them to use. But unless you are in a production environment it's overkill. @chilly igloo

rustic gulch
#

anything you can recommend me? @mossy nexus

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at least ?

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what type of laptop or pc am I lookin' at to build games

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with UE4

mossy nexus
#

Not really man, you just need to get the best you can afford. Plenty of RAM, decent CPU even the budget Ryzens from AMD would be a massive improvement.

quiet narwhal
#

spend a billion dollars and you can;'t go wrong, oh it also has to be a mac

mossy nexus
#

an i3 is pretty far down on the pecking order these days, and only 4GB of RAM isn't much. Once Windows takes it's share you're not left with much.

quiet narwhal
#

a laptop isnt going to be any different than a desktop in terms of specs to run UE4. Figure out what you want to do in UE4, what specs you need to do that, if you are going to be using it with external accessories, and then find a laptop that hits those needs

rustic gulch
#

hmm any recommendations on getting a laptop or building a pc what specs am I looking at?

quiet narwhal
#

that depends on what you are going to be doing

mossy nexus
#

depends on your budget

rustic gulch
#

well mostly I wanted to get into level designing

mossy nexus
#

and wot he said ๐Ÿ˜„

quiet narwhal
#

level design doesnt need a ton of cores for example, a good GPU and lots of storage would be paramount along with a large enough screen and resolution

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DXR support is also a concern at that point

rustic gulch
#

hmm

mossy nexus
#

There are some things that run mostly on CPU and some things that run mostly on the GPU.

rustic gulch
#

so a computer with a gpu nvidia's 10series and i5 would be fine with 8gb ram?

mossy nexus
#

So if it's all graphics, materials then GPU is the main thing, but if you're doing stuff with NPCs that have AI and all that funs stuff then CPU is the one.

rustic gulch
#

and I am more of an Indie dev btw

quiet narwhal
#

8gb ram is a no go, thats bad..

rustic gulch
#

so?

quiet narwhal
#

16gb or more

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like don't even consider 8GB anymore

rustic gulch
#

ohh ok

quiet narwhal
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16GB is bad enough, infiltrator demo for example barely loads and open world won't

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and those are oooooooooolder demos

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a 10th gen I5 is fine, a 8th gen or higher I7 is a sweet spot to be honest

raw rose
#

32gbs required for kite demo

mossy nexus
#

I had a i7 with 16gb RAM and a 1080Ti, it was fine. Not as fine as the 3700x and 32GB but it was workable ๐Ÿ™‚

quiet narwhal
#

yep if you want "just fine" in a laptop find an 8300h with a 1060 and 16gb ram and some nice SSD storage and call it "fine"

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next step up would be an 8750/9750h with a 1660ti

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after that you get into the new stuff like the 4800 ryzen series with 20x0 cards

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in the middle is whats left of Intel and it's newer crap lol

rustic gulch
#

cool actually i was dying to test out and play with ue4 but i guess i have to wait for a long time lol. those specs are pricey tbh tho

quiet narwhal
#

well those are comfortable and beyond specs, "it just works" is much lower, you can run it on an integrated I3 if you really wanted to lol

#

I've got a laptop here with a 10th gen I5 with an integrated G4 gpu and UE4 works well enough on medium settings to get 30fps in a TPP template and it cost me $250 bucks plus $20 for a stick of ram

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I mean it's horrible to do real work on but it "works"

mossy nexus
#

Of course, it also depends where you are in the world.

quiet narwhal
#

before the virus I would say go used, but even used is getting scarce and newer stuff is getting fairly good and cheap

rustic gulch
#

hmm

quiet narwhal
#

If you just want to learn and you lower your expectations, almost anything can work if the gpu is supported. I used an i3 3rd gen for years when UE4 first came out

rustic gulch
#

hmm cool I think i can wait around a bit maybe save some money to build a pc

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for a 18 yr old that's actually difficult but yea that's ok ๐Ÿ˜… I have the patience and am wiling to wait and save up

north torrent
#

Building a pc is better than using a laptop if you care about game design.

rustic gulch
#

yea i'm thinking of building apc only

north torrent
#

I'm buying a laptop this year, but the desktop was my main priority. The laptop is just if I have the money, because I do travel a lot and it could be useful in those situations.

rustic gulch
#

anyways gn and thanks for your help I appreciate it @quiet narwhal @mossy nexus @north torrent ๐Ÿ’–

zinc matrix
#

s

north torrent
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I would wait to upgrade.

fathom wadi
#

you should buy my i7-4790k for stock price in 2015 so I can upgrade, then I will let you know how good the upgrade is. Saves you the trouble.

chilly igloo
#

The latest threadrippers eat any kind of rendering you throw at them, but you need to have enough RAM for them to use. But unless you are in a production environment it's overkill. @chilly igloo
@mossy nexus latest one are sooo out of my price range. I was thinking about 1920x/1950x or even a 1900x with a plans of update in future.

fathom wadi
#

all I am saying is, it took me 93 minutes to fresh build ue4.25 on an i7-4790k @ 4.6ghz. Someone I know took 14 minutes with a ryzen. So production environment or not, you save lifetime.

deep glen
#

just not ever noticing mat instructions being calculated is a massive win hehe

fathom wadi
#

its strange that it's not really raw processing power anymore but availability of cores. I get the soft-cap on silicon based procs + heat transference, but in that sense, slamming down more cores only makes as much sense as applications reach for multi-threading. So it's like the advancement isn't the speed, but the methods. That will be capped out by other influence though.

broken sigil
#

had to rebuild the engine the other day, it took 18 (ish) minutes on an i9 9900k, ryzen's extra cores really don't make much difference in this case

fathom wadi
#

depends. 4 minutes is a lot and its probably only the shader worker compilers that would stress it. For a big chunk of the compile process its using everything it can for those.

agile egret
#

Someone fixed up the casket meme in a much needed way

gilded vigil
#

amazing

carmine frigate
#

if that site is cpu boss or something thats a crap site ๐Ÿ˜›

#

you need to compare more local

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and actual workload tests

#

cpu boss and some sites and they have weird algorithms to determin what cpu is better

agile egret
#

@chilly igloo I have a 1920x, and compile the whole engine in under 20 mins

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(My ram runs at 3200 though, which I've been told is lucky for 1920x)

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I don't overclock the cpu either

tulip orbit
#

You guys talking bout new CPUs makes me sad about my near 10yr old one ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fathom wadi
#

hey it may take more time to compile, but then we get more time to slack right?

tulip orbit
#

I dont compile the engine so I've got no excuse ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fathom wadi
#

I never have to much. I keep up with releases, mess around. It usually just works

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just compile time, which I get to do some Blender or something

icy furnace
#

heh i accidentally hit rebuild on my project earlier, and because i use a custom engine build ofc it decided to rebuild the whole engine.... it's a bit annoying when i'm in the zone because i just lose track of what i was doing

fathom wadi
#

you can safely cancel it

broken sigil
#

when I started with ue4 I had some old CPU and it took around 10 hours to build the engine... fun times ๐Ÿ˜

fathom wadi
#

or less skilled because it takes forever to figure out why

icy furnace
#

it used to take over an hour on my old pc on older UE4 versions... but it's under 15 min now on the i9

#

i can see how the new processors with all those threads can just power through it

fathom wadi
#

worst part of solo dev work is the lack of people to bounce ideas between. Thats why I love discord and previously slack and previously irc. Keeps that work at office psychology going that you are not alone

north torrent
#

That sounds like hell.

broken sigil
#

I'm looking forward to the ryzen 4, intel's new 10th gen cpu's are kinda disappointing tbh

agile egret
#

Intel is doing what Intel does, wait two more years and Intel will be king again. (I'm an amd fan)

north torrent
#

I will buy a Ryzen for my next rig, but I am not expecting AMD to stay on top long term.

icy furnace
#

128 threads is pretty ludicrous

#

could generate voxels realllly fast with that ๐Ÿ˜„

broken sigil
#

Intel is doing what Intel does, wait two more years and Intel will be king again. (I'm an amd fan)
They probably will when they finally switch to 7nm
I've been using intel CPUs for the last 5 years probably, amd before that
I'm waiting for the 4th gen before I decide what I'm gonna do, if it's better overall than intel's 10th gen (including single thread performance) I'm gonna buy AMD and move the I9 to my other PC, if not I'm gonna keep my current I9 I have.

fathom wadi
#

You know what this reminds me of... when AMD released the Thunderbird. Took Intel by surprise. Intel came back. AMD are sometimes what forces the money men to push forward on some RnD to take back the market. And it's always suspicious. Either some hacky workaround/fix, or just raw processing through faster cache or some shit. Then you find out all their procs have a built in security issue and it's hardcoded into the mask rom. And it can't be fixed. etc, etc. Same with NVidia. Scam artists all circling like vultures. Picking and poking ๐Ÿ˜„

icy furnace
#

lol you design a better processor then ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
#

What wouldn't surprise me is if military tech in these areas was literally 20 years in advance, as the old adage states. This tech has been bled out by marketing

mossy nexus
#

If it wasn't for AMD, we'd all still be using 2 core CPUs at 400Mhz and being thankful for it

fathom wadi
#

yeah

zinc matrix
#

damn guysSsSss

north torrent
#

The people in marketing ruin innovation.

fathom wadi
#

if mil-tech was advanced, they would be organic processing for quantum algorithmic predictions beyond any concept beyond sci-fi and the AI race has already been won.

#

and we get a shitty 16 core? pffft

#

sillicon? I shit it :p

#

Imagine if we did have quantum computing in the home, the graphics would finally be able to render nurbs ยฌ_ยฌ

north torrent
#

People would just use it to bully people on Twitter.

agile egret
#

Because of all this I saw a new bios update that improves voltage stuff. Just hit 3400 on my ram xD

fathom wadi
#

thats part of what powers the marketing, which is important

agile egret
zinc matrix
#

i very nerd

north torrent
#

Humans don't need better technology until they can get their shit together.

zinc matrix
#

humns need to live forever

#

at least 300 yyears

fathom wadi
#

we need better tech to get our shit together more like

zinc matrix
#

Universal.. Income..

#

black hole infinite energy..

fathom wadi
#

I hope neural interfacing gets more money put into it for real scientific purpose, not to just sell a new headset every 2 years

raw rose
#

neural interfacing is terrifying

fathom wadi
#

I read comments about people complaining about their privacy of thoughts whilst using these devices and I thought to myself "I would believe you if you weren't writing your opinion on a logged internet service that is known to harvest data".

#

anyone with physical interface disabilities and/or communication issues could benefit greatly from this

north torrent
#

I think all data should be public.

Privacy doesn't exist, but why should we let a few sleezballs get insanely rich and powerful from taking out data when we could just make everything public.

raw rose
#

Oh I agree with that. That's great

#

But for privacy issues it's terrifying

fathom wadi
#

thats why we need quantum computing locally. To improve the security for any wifi interface. Although some say having it cancels out its usefulness. Then the AI salesmen turn up. Probably called Wintermute or something ยฌ_ยฌ

#

It's a shame we get to see this race to the bottom in capitalist hardware culture. Simply stepping up in dribs and drabs until Moore's Law is distorted. I thought we would be further than this by now.

raw rose
#

Tech innovation is slowing down but I think it's because there's some huge leaps on the horizon

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Like quantum computing and AI

solar nebula
#

lol

#

@raw rose what would be your attitude if both those things turned out to be a big dud in the end?

raw rose
#

They're already not a big dud

#

RTX voice is a good example

fathom wadi
#

the AI will come with quantum computing. Getting that done in a cheaper method in the home requires installing clean rooms with absolute zero temps in your PC case. Might take some time, but if it's all remote on a centralized system, like Google / IBM / etc already do, and we hook in, we give away privacy automatically

raw rose
#

Yeah we need to make it work in exsisting PCs and idk if that will ever happen

fathom wadi
#

we need more than that, we need neural interfaces across microwave bandwidth at the least.

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maybe beyond that even who knows

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perhaps there is a communication layer we haven't discovered yet

raw rose
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Quantum computing will be used to create more efficient/enhanced software for sure in the next few years. Just indirectly

fathom wadi
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Well the theoretical science is out there. Tesla was onto it. The HAARP setup always made me question if it was for testing comms methods. Radio, MW, etc. Given 100 years from now, based on current tech, the last 100 years of tech advancement, and potential from science fiction that always creeps in, you could say humans will be the interface to the Great Chinese AI ๐Ÿ™‚ (just hedging my bets)

raw rose
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Imagine using the internet to create an AI

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Each PC would just be a node that displays a 1 or 0

fathom wadi
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imagine when we have AI that can code itself. You just install a cloud setup. Setup a task. Let it run it's course. Instant C++ coder. Or better yet, copy/paste one already done. https://aidaily.co.uk/articles/the-ai-that-codes-itself

agile egret
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@signal citrus @carmine frigate I'm bringing up old stuff, but I got my 2800 rated ram to 3400 (was 3200), no errors, going to push 3600 and see how I do xD

carmine frigate
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there is lil use in that

agile egret
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? threadripper loves fast ram?

carmine frigate
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but go nuts ๐Ÿ˜›

raw rose
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Like sure it can code itself, but would it code anything useful?

carmine frigate
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thats a lot of tweaking for miliseconds

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just be happy with ur rig ๐Ÿ™‚

agile egret
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I didn't do much, downloaded a new bios, picked the 3200 xmp profile, upped the speed to 3400, and set my soc to +0.1v

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other than that its stock

fathom wadi
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@raw rose if it can code itself, it can make rulesets from markov chain based code systems (you can put it in the comments for the AI to read a methods context/usage). Which means if the task is correct, the method will be

mossy nexus
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Someone recently got a quantum computer working, sort of. It was calculating something insane. It did what would currently take thousands of years in minutes but it wasn't accurate.

carmine frigate
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thats google

fathom wadi
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maybe floating point isn't accurate in quantum scope

raw rose
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Yo dawg, I heard you like to code

carmine frigate
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but it can only calculate stuff if u can calculate back if u got the answer cuz its unstable

raw rose
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So we made code that can code

fathom wadi
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its a crazy concept , infinite possibilities

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almost like the universe. All based on some math that boils down to binary

raw rose
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Well limited by storage space

mossy nexus
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The advances on storage are also mind boggling

fathom wadi
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storing into DNA boggles the mind

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if we can create nanotube structures that carry synthesized DNA strands, we could have some huge SSD devices one day. That would be awesome for my Unreal Drives :p

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I dont understand why they don't start with a common sense boundary. Some of those tests were utterly moot

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maybe.

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everytime I see AI learning though, it's beautiful. I would like to start a project for something, but it's a big change from game dev. I would have to spend all my time on it

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I would like to do an AI music creator. Something I could setup streaming and just leave, let people listen and rate the music, then use that data to improve it.

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I toyed with the idea in UE4 but im not sure

fallow finch
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im still looking for a name

tidal ivy
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Jeremy

fallow finch
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No not for me for the game

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๐Ÿ˜„

fathom wadi
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Name for a game is easy

fallow finch
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How

fathom wadi
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think of a word

mossy nexus
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jobbies

fallow finch
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Stumble Fighter

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:d

fathom wadi
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what kind of game is it?

fallow finch
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its many modes inside the game

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Like stick fight lets say

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tdm dm race death race etc

fathom wadi
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Stick fight. Hows that?

fallow finch
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i mean its like the modes

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but the player and its animation must be like Human fall flat

fathom wadi
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do you have a screenie?

fallow finch
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still on the way

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Im looking for someone to help me also xD

fathom wadi
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alpha fight then

fallow finch
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hmm Alpha fight

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sounds good

fathom wadi
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Time to go play some Destiny 2. I can't wait to see what my second destiny is. Because the first one lied.

fallow finch
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๐Ÿ˜„

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your destiny ?

fathom wadi
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this is the alpha marketing

fallow finch
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Pre-Pre-Pre-Alpha Release 6852_whistling

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ponkkis how its going ?

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Can i PM you with small question if its possible please ? @zinc matrix ?

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Ok Sorry ๐Ÿ˜„ no worry

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but no one smarter than the other Someone just know in this Section better than you xD

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Yes ik ๐Ÿ˜„ i just was looking for someone who can take a look into my project and tell me if my work is wrong or true and maybe i can pay for him 6852_whistling

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so im confused where to ask something like that

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Yes true but My question was unSortable ๐Ÿ˜„

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i will try my luck and ask its more than advice will took maybe 1 hour or less

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Thanks โค๏ธ

zinc matrix
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everyone gangsta until u need to twerk

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@fallow finch this is actually incredible

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loving smart AI

fallow finch
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xD what is the incredible

zinc matrix
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like

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AI can park car in 2d game

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without hitting other cars

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sickk

fallow finch
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Yes it took ages and still cant park it perfect ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
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yes

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which means

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its perfect for companion robot

fallow finch
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truee

worldly radish
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what you guys think more user friendly for someone just starting UE or unity

north torrent
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For artists, Unreal hands down. Not even up for debate.

hasty cargo
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unity

pearl elk
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Neither is close to user friendly imo ๐Ÿ™‚

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These types of software packages tend to be bloated, have poor UX and tend to focus on performance over usability

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Its like asking if Maya or Zbrush is more user friendly, they are both really difficult to master

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Id recommend modding an existing game to people starting out, dont even bother with a full game engine until you can make something

north torrent
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Zbrush is a bit of a different beast.

pearl elk
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They all are, if I hadnt used 3dsmax for 20yrs Id be completely lost

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They are all beasts that is, big, bulky, hairy, full of bugs

north torrent
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With Maya if you really know the software you can generally make something good.

With Zbrush if you don't have the art knowledge from outside the software, no amount of knowing what the buttons do is going to help you.

pearl elk
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About the same for any application really, if you cant write a letter outside of Word you wont be able to write one any better inside of Word ๐Ÿ™‚

north torrent
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Zbrush isn't all that bulky compared to something like Maya or Blender or a game engine.

No more than something like Photoshop.

There are a few tools that you can get lost in the depth of.

pearl elk
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Sounds like personal bias to me

north torrent
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Zbrush simply has a less broad set of things it tries to be.

pearl elk
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New users cant find shit in most applications, including photoshop. We just take the ability to boot em up and use em for granted, if youre new, you got alot more to learn than just UE4 or Unity

north torrent
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Where something like Blender tries to be everything.

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From an artist perspective I would say start with 3d modeling for at least a year before you start using a game engine.

pearl elk
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Yeah Zbrush isnt one of those everything apps but its UI is hardly user friendly, Im sure the learning curve is reasonable but my point is that if youre new you got alot of ground to cover. Like alot alot

north torrent
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Life is hard.

pearl elk
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Even my friends who make games dont understand it when I say making games can be one of the largest challenges you'll ever face. They just keep on designing the next Star Citizen like sigh

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Big expansive living breathing universe where everyone has jobs... <ragequit>

north torrent
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Coming from all the software I have used as a visual artist and then starting to use an audio program like FL Studio, I found it to be one of the most non-intuitive things ever.

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So many things worked the opposite of what I thought was logical.

pearl elk
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My favourite is the computer science geeks who think they can write games just cuz they know how to code, that ones always funny to watch

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5 minutes later... I cant find Main()

north torrent
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Well, if I was trying to make a curriculum on it, knowing how games work and the roles, steps, and limitations of a game project would be a totally separate class than the classes on how to use different software.

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Someone for example could be a master level Zbrush artist and be amazing at Substance Painter and know how to build levels in Unreal, but be totally clueless on what makes a game fun or marketable.

pearl elk
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Focus on the areas in which your person strengths are and build on those in relation to game making.

rare sparrow
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Kickstarter failed last year and instead of scrapping it he decided to put it up on github with a GPL license. Would be neat to see people come together to build it up as a free alternative to World Machine and the like

zinc matrix
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i slept a lot, nice

raw rose
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I need to sleep but my brain isn't shutting down properly.

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My brain is like voxelcolors

zinc matrix
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@raw rose waiting for my feet to try out after shower

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before wearing socks ๐Ÿ’ฉ

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non-vegans ๐Ÿ™„ always at fault

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corona. yup. even that.

sage tendon
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@zinc matrix you know this is a ue4 community right?

zinc matrix
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yes

sage tendon
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You know that ue4 has nothing to do with food lifestyle right?

zinc matrix
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it can be interesting tho

sage tendon
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No

zinc matrix
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yes

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it does

sage tendon
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Only for vegans

zinc matrix
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wrong. totaly wrong.

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has nothing to do with veganism

sage tendon
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Then where is the vegan channel?

zinc matrix
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it's not related to veganism

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you must be very young

pearl elk
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Im a beangan, I only eat beans

zinc matrix
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oh

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how.... delicious

sage tendon
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Yes, im very young

pearl elk
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Im old enough to remember the time when we ate our own young

zinc matrix
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@sage tendon see, environment is not a vegan thingy.

sage tendon
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My beard exist of horse hair, but dont tell anyone

zinc matrix
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you gotta learn that first

pearl elk
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My beard is made from norse hair

sage tendon
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If its not a vegan thingy, why do you link them to non-vegans. On the other point: why do you keep talking vegan stuff in a ue4 community whilst never speaking about ue4?

pearl elk
zinc matrix
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@sage tendon cause its non-vegans fault

sage tendon
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Ugh

zinc matrix
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and cause you don't know what im talking in this server

raw rose
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I smell a troll

zinc matrix
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i smell haters.

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but i dont complain

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cause im not toxic.

pearl elk
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I blocked a troll or two or three

raw rose
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You're right, don't feed it

sage tendon
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I will concur now

tulip orbit
zinc matrix
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thanks for stopping the provocation

pearl elk
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I like Unreal Engine

zinc matrix
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my feet dried.. now i go to make food..

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ITS VERY LATE THO!

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i should be eating 2h ago..

solid aurora
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@rare sparrow the problem with all those fancyy terrain generator is one (in context of games)

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unless you are doing Star Citizen, the scale for gameplay is always off

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use them as post process is also bit pointless as it might break gameplay

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this kind of tools is best when integrated directly with level editor, where you can see and test scale exactly to fit game

zinc matrix
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now i can generate .Json files with armor structs

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and the player's memory will only contain the structs he currently needs, and nothing more

deep glen
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someone said json?

zinc matrix
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lul

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ok i get it

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his name is Jason

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Lmao!

pearl elk
rugged storm
zinc matrix
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Some can't even if they wanted to grow beards (i.e. hygiene rules at work or how their body works), and some don't want to.

zinc matrix
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Cottage Weekend
Rob brings a girl to our annual cottage weekend for the first time in eight years, rounding out our group to an even six. Initially, we are wary of including someone we didnโ€™t quite know, but it isnโ€™t too long before she wins us over with her friendly, laid-back personality. And, as a bonus, sheโ€™s brought with her salted caramel cupcakes, an after-dinner treat that we devour as we sit around a campfire exchanging the scariest stories weโ€™d ever heard.

โ€œYou go first, new girl,โ€ we encourage.

She shakes her head. โ€œIโ€™d actually like to go last, if you donโ€™t mind. I want to hear all your stories first.โ€

Most of the tales are urban legends: โ€œHumans Can Lick, Tooโ€; โ€œArenโ€™t You Glad You Didnโ€™t Turn Out the Lightโ€; and several versions of a young couple meeting an unfortunate fate while trapped in a car at the dead of night.

Then itโ€™s her turn. โ€œHonestly, stories with blood and gore donโ€™t scare me. Theyโ€™re so over the top, so implausible, that theyโ€™re more ridiculous than they are frightening.

โ€œWhatโ€™s scary to me are the mindfucks,โ€ she continues, tapping an index finger to her temple. โ€œThe unexpected. The unknown. Not ghosts, mind you, or chain wielding maniacs, but ordinary people like you and I.

โ€œFor example, a stranger spends a weekend at the cottage with her boyfriend and his friends,โ€ she says as she holds up her uneaten cupcake, โ€œand feeds them some homemade pastries.โ€
โญ i dont find this scary
you?

rotund tundra
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  • pastries may contain milk and eggs
pearl elk
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Story may contain cool bro

sage tendon
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Totally not taken from sweeny todd

tulip orbit
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marketplace springsale?! oh noes my credit card!

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if I can find anything good

pearl elk
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Im wondering when there wont be sale on the launcher ๐Ÿ˜›

solid aurora
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stuff sells only on sales

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so probabaly never ;p

tulip orbit
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ah, my credit card is safe.

north torrent
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You are a credit card.

pearl elk
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I was a credit card now Im a debit card

tulip orbit
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I'm just a gift card to blockbuster video.

pearl elk
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then you can afford this

tulip orbit
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yeah I dont want that ๐Ÿ™‚

north torrent
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Yes you do.

tulip orbit
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nuh uh

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if I buy that, and use it, then I have to make sure everything else fits that style, which it currently doesnt

north torrent
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Use QixMix and change the style.

tulip orbit
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uses substance

pearl elk
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soon we wont even call em pixels... they'll be quixels ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

mossy nexus
#

๐Ÿฅ

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UK government not getting away with rules for one of their own, and one for everyone else. So far every reporter is asking them same questions ๐Ÿ˜„

compact sedge
#

Hey all! Is there anyone here who identifies as female or non-binary and is interested in esports? I'm looking to connect with more people. Please feel free to DM me โค๏ธ

rain steppe
#

How to find out what channel in discord make a sound and disable it?

sage tendon
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Should display a speaker icon on that server tab/logo/icon thing

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@compact sedge just curious, where is the male label?

tulip orbit
#

sigh, I changed the character/world scale in my game and now I have to remake my rpg town, but I've been staring at it for a few hours now and I have no idea where to start ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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the one on the old scale was based on a tilemap and all in boring right angles, so I wanna change that too

rain steppe
#

How to mute this POPUP sound from discord if someone writes something?

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If I mute a channel - then I don't see if someone writes anything.

deep glen
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somewhere in the user settings > audio

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user settings > notifications

rain steppe
#

Thanks

dense storm
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i don't get there PR system sometimes

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its a simple UFUNCTION wrapper around an engine function

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and its been shoved and ignored, like ThinkingChief

sage tendon
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@zinc matrix try to play your game and find out :p

carmine frigate
#

what is the player viewpoint?

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is it like camera location?

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but the player is in the camera not the 3rd person char

sage tendon
#

see the description ๐Ÿ˜›

carmine frigate
#

camera location breaks in stereo

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the description doesnt say enough id have to open visual to see what it actually does

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but mweh mayB someday ๐Ÿ˜›

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im all in favor of exposing it to BP tho

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like why not

young iris
#

@dense storm Why was the built in perception a pain?

dim ruin
#

so I've come to the conclusion that Fuse CC's character UV maps suck because their vertex/edge placement on their meshes sucks asscrack

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rather than creating proper faces, they split edges in all these stupid ways that ultimately prevents you from creating any sort of UV layout that would be practical or optimal for production

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I made a packed uv layout for legs as example and its so skewed and stretched because of these damn edge forks