helps you not write tons of specialization types
#lounge
zinc matrix
Probably my fav future from it are template variables.
I cry every day at nested namespaces not available in MSVC below c++17.
signal citrus
lol
that one is a surprising one yea
i wish msvc was more picky about the template keyword in general
when you don't use it the way clang expects, and complains otherwise everything is so slow at compiling
mentioning that because namespace rule with template is mind boggling
if you've got a static in a class that is a template
that_class::template in_class<>()
if that_class is a namespace then you don't need the template keyword, but it will let you use one
msvc will go to the ends of the world to check to make sure that first < sign isn't a less than compare
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix not sure about foliage but definitely with static meshes. Unless you can put shaders on foliage, then you can vertex anim on them.
abstract haven
fathom wadi
not a fun story by any means
abstract haven
tragic but hilarious
he wanted to mail her a package filled with aids needles which would explode and hit her when she opened it
fathom wadi
yeah fucking hilarious
plucky pagoda
Why do stupid and deranged always have to come together?
fathom wadi
jesus dude
plucky pagoda
Just found out it's almost certain I had Covid19 in Feb.
fathom wadi
you know he was mentally ill. It's not really something worth making a fun video about. It can happen to anyone. Just takes one switch to flip and you are on a Dankula vid that he smiles on the thumbnail as he makes his dollars.
abstract haven
actually I know a guy just like that, who ended killing himself over some babyfaced girl
I find it amusing, a lot of his videos are about idiots and he makes a mockery of them
fathom wadi
yeah this didn't do this because he was an idiot. He was mentally ill.
abstract haven
same difference
plucky pagoda
Not the same.
fathom wadi
yeah whatever douche
fathom wadi
https://i.imgur.com/ub6kkyT.gifv so I just signed upto xbox game pass and changed my nick to suit. Now it wont let me log in lol
plucky pagoda
It gives me grief a lot.
fathom wadi
probably coded with ASP 😄
plucky pagoda
I wish I had kept my dev account separate.
fathom wadi
howcome?
plucky pagoda
They set it all up weird. My Microsoft developer account is the same as my xbox login. Sometimes it gets confusing.
fathom wadi
yeah I tried to make a new account and both my main emails were already taken from previous Visual studio installs.
plucky pagoda
but my id@xbox for some reason got assigned to my scionategames email.
fathom wadi
Another odd thing was it didn't refer to my bank to verify the transaction. I usually get redirected to make sure its me but this just took the cash
plucky pagoda
I'm still peeved about them taking away family accounts and that was probably 8 years ago.
fathom wadi
yeah that was pretty cool
plucky pagoda
lol
azure chasm
I love this new stretching reminder software
1 hour later
Turn this fricking shite off
plucky pagoda
Somebody give me 2k so I don't have to decide between these assets in my cart. Just make it out to cash.
azure chasm
Lmao
plucky pagoda
Yeah. Might have to make some choices here.
azure chasm
I dislike how the new sales on the marketplace are like UP TO 50% off when they used to be up to 90% off
plucky pagoda
I'm about to go crazy with some assets and make some eye candy crazy lasers flying and bodies exploding insanity.
fathom wadi
did you sort something out with that project I referred you to btw?
plucky pagoda
I think he decided to look elsewhere. He said he was going to give me a list of what he wanted and I never heard back.
fathom wadi
Ah thats unusual. Maybe his guy backed out but I would have thought he would let you know.
or maybe he is just busy. I dunno.
plucky pagoda
Not a big deal. I was on the fence about it. I really appreciate the referral but I was a bit leery that he didn't seem to know what he wanted. I might have been too curt with him. I tried to be polite but the asshole finds its way out sometimes.
I don't think I was rude though.
fathom wadi
well its the way it goes. I've been pushing around a lot of jobsearch stuff recently trying to help people out in these trying times. You know how it is.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, it's no big deal he seems cool and maybe something will happen some other time.
I appreciate it.
fathom wadi
did he show you his project hes working on ?
plucky pagoda
No, but he sent me a connection on linkedin and I checked out his youtube. I have a background in RF and cable/fiber stuff working for TimeWarner way back so it was interesting to look at it.
fathom wadi
yeah I thought it was cool. Still early days in dev, but the idea is solid and one that should take off over time. I had a read up to see what other systems do that kind of thing and it seems to be getting some kind of push recently
plucky pagoda
Internet went out yesterday and I hadn't installed plex since reformating last week and none of my phone cables are data cables. Downloaded it on the phone and figured out how to transfer files via bluetooth.
Yeah, there's been talk of stuff like that forever but I think UE can make it happen now.
fathom wadi
ummm did I miss the launch date of Wasteland 3? 😮
plucky pagoda
I don't think so
fathom wadi
it says august 2020 but its on Game Pass now 😮
plucky pagoda
It will install early and you can play when it's out
fathom wadi
ahh right. Phew. Been waiting for that for ages
plucky pagoda
They did that with Ori and some others too
fathom wadi
I should be getting my 75mb connection tomorrow so good time to buy the pass and download the world 😄
plucky pagoda
Nice.
I need fluid simulation blood effects. I want blood that gushes out of wounds and has volume.
and puddles
fathom wadi
I want a full soft body physics setup with full internal organs. Need to make something gory but I don't think there is any decent soft body setup for UE in that respect, yet.
plucky pagoda
So check this out. On jan 6th a coworker of my wife went into the hospital with what they thought was the flu, she went into the ICU and when she got out they told her she now has asthma. Then today they said the first case of covid in our state was determined to have been where we live and on Jan 7th or 6th.
Both my wife and me were sick for over a month just after that and I was using my apap on max pressure during the day to help me breath for a while.
At the time I thought maybe I had accidentally inhaled some dust or something when I was cutting flooring.
We figured because of when it was too early in the year to have been that but if the first case they know of was here and it was right before we got sick I really think it was probably covid19
fathom wadi
probably considering the nature of your wife's work
plucky pagoda
yeah, they have people from Shanghai and Japan visit a lot.
I'm fairly certain it was. It was really bad.
fathom wadi
https://o2trainer.com/blogs/news/bas-rutten-on-overcoming-asthma speaking of asthma, this is getting a good rep for reducing and even stopping asthmatic effects. I've read an article about a nurse who treats kids with asthma who started using these and it's been clearing it up
fathom wadi
thats what I looked like when I nearly died from pneumonia and pluracy
dropped 4 stone in 2 weeks
that would be 56lb
plucky pagoda
Ouch.
Yeah I can't use our scale anymore. It's stuck on stones and it might as well be random numbers for all I can make sense of it.
OMg, I love this
fathom wadi
14lb per stone but who like doing their 14 times tables when you are checking your weight eh 😄
plucky pagoda
Hmmm... yeah, I'll try again
I need to win the lottery or stop browsing the asset market
quiet narwhal
stop browsing is the easier choice 😛
plucky pagoda
maybe...
quiet narwhal
sometimes we have to choose the less fun choice... sometimes
plucky pagoda
quiet narwhal
like me I want to keep playing with UE4 but I am going to go read instead!
plucky pagoda
Why do all the assets I love have to be nearly $200
You're the better man.
I should go make some tea though. good call.
quiet narwhal
probably something to do with not being cheap crap
plucky pagoda
yeah
quiet narwhal
I'm waiting till I get a few more free assets then making my asset flip RPG project 🙂
fathom wadi
I have so many free assets now that its a crime that I dont put out something quick and cheap just to make it look like im a real game dev :p
plucky pagoda
I'm rewarding myself for not going on a stress induced rampage by making a pure asset flip FPS horror/scifi mash up
gore fest
quiet narwhal
working mine into the story of the game, you basically are a character in the RPG and the dev just gets bored before finishing so he keeps changing the design as you are playing and using pre made assets to just rush out a game
plucky pagoda
I love that
quiet narwhal
Embrace the asset flippedness!
fathom wadi
I had a fighting game idea based on my free asset collection but when I made the prototype, I realised how much damn work is involved in a fighting game and I couldn't do it all myself. It would have been several years work
quiet narwhal
plus in theory it should let me have a cohesive game with multiple art and game styles. similar to Evoland but not polished lol
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I thought about taking a set of assets that just don't belong together like a messed up hyper realistic zombie and a low poly teddy bear working together.
quiet narwhal
go for it
fathom wadi
Someone should make a game about Jim Sterling using flipped assets. Perhaps use his wrestling persona as a main character
plucky pagoda
only if it has kaufman in it
plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
a true comedy genius
I love how everytime I watch him, I start off confused as hell, feeling awkward but by the end you just belly laugh at him.
plucky pagoda
I love his Letterman appearances.
fathom wadi
yeah the documentary of Jim Carrey during Man on the moon is excellent too. He really took it to the limit
oh man that interview Kaufman did when he was sullen and pretended he was down on his luck so went into the audience to collect donations was utterly brilliant
plucky pagoda
I'm using this:
Yeah, I love that stuff. He pushes it to that uncomfortable edge and then just keeps going
fathom wadi
oooh Everspace is on xbox game pass. They were making that at the same time we were working on starfighter and I kept thinking "I chose the wrong space game to work on" as it looked great
starfighter looked decent too tho, just more 1990's style
plucky pagoda
I think you just described my life.
working mine into the story of the game, you basically are a character in the RPG and the dev just gets bored before finishing so he keeps changing the design as you are playing and using pre made assets to just rush out a game
@quiet narwhal
slate tundra
anyone know what this is gonna be
spare glade
HalfLife 3?
fathom wadi
Unreal Tournament 4, fully polished.
oblique trellis
UT battle royal in VR
pearl elk
Well it wont be Last of Us 2 😛
solid aurora
it's trolling attempt for sure
fluid bloom
gears
solar nebula
I like gears
They transmit forces
If my life could only be about gears, it would be about gears
signal citrus
Same
north torrent
Any other company I would be skeptical, but Epic has never really disappointed with giving away free things.
They should let Tim Sweeny run the government stimulus program...
north torrent
Days
signal citrus
I bet it’s borderlands 3
north torrent
I might play it if it is.
Though I got really bored of Borderlands 2 and never finished it.
The new game I'm starting today is Vampyr.
signal citrus
I haven’t played it because I can’t stand pitchford
north torrent
I don't know if there are any pitchforks in the Vampyr game...
I'm still playing through Detroit a second time... My favorite character died my first time through.
But for now I need to go to the Huawei store and spend my US stimulus money.
signal citrus
I have been using an embody chair for a year now
rugged storm
the back part broke off yesterday
so i can't really lay my back on anything
it's just the seat and the legs
signal citrus
Your gonna develop all kinds of fun muscle and posture
fathom wadi
my wife just completed Vampyr. Shes on her second playthrough now
it must have been a decent game as I only heard her swearing a couple of times 😄 She did say it was buggy tho
tulip orbit
I'm on my 2nd playthru of BL3 right now.
median wraith
I need a serious chair
tulip orbit
vast heron
tulip orbit
fathom wadi
north torrent
I'm pretty sure Mr. Rogerson would hate my game if I finished it, but Mrs. Rogerson would probably enjoy it...
hazy delta
to be fair, that is a pretty serious chair
ancient ingot
looks pleasant
north torrent
Pie.
soft night
Sonic Pi
median wraith
@ancient ingot I had always the concern you were masochist waiting to make games but now is a confirmation 🤪
ancient ingot
rain steppe
🤨 what to play
north torrent
I realized that the giant cans of beer I bought are actually a bit difficult to pour...
north torrent
Drinking beer from a can is not optimal. Beer always tastes better if you pour it and let it breath.
There are certain gasses in the beer that are released when you pour it. When you drink from a can or bottle with a small opening the last bit of beer always tastes odd.
tulip orbit
I was usually too lazy to pour the beer, and just drank from bottle/can.
north torrent
I guess that's ok if you are in college.
tulip orbit
or just lazy, and drinking cheaper beer
north torrent
Do you own a beer mug?
carmine frigate
yea i stole it when i had too much to drink
north torrent
You could just buy one from IKEA... but then you have to walk all the way through IKEA... sigh...
north torrent
Did you pay for the beer with your good looks, Mr. Owinator?
carmine frigate
usually i just drop em on the floor and they break, thats allowed
wet stratus
:sad:
north torrent
I'm pretty sure that isn't allowed...
north torrent
Do you own a beer mug, Karol?
carmine frigate
its a nice big zipfer mug 😛
north torrent
It was until you dropped it on the floor...
zinc matrix
i think this is time to code
ancient ingot
i think this is time to.... make coffeeeeee
rich quiver
mossy nexus
It's hammer time, surely?
plucky pagoda
zinc matrix
plucky pagoda
deep glen
No need to make fun of vegans.
plucky pagoda
It's not really that. I probably agree with many of the points he tries to make. I resent how those points keep being made.
deep glen
Twitter
plucky pagoda
I didn't even know you could promote a tweet.
I'm a little shocked by how many interior level kits I've looked at on the market that lack any form of stairs, ramps, ladders or anything else designed to create more than one level of height.
pearl elk
I want to see Unreal Editor running on Unreal Editor over cloud 😛
plucky pagoda
There's some really good looking stuff on the market, I just wish some of it was a little more complete.
rotund tundra
most of it is not complete
median wraith
@deep glen I expected you to post the other tweet there after that sentence, you know what I meat ?
rotund tundra
everyone is so cheap on the meshes
deep glen
:p
plucky pagoda
yeah
novel latch
wet stratus
Guys how do I change the Affinity to low to help with shader compiling times?
delicate yoke
Hello guys
Guys I'm planning to buy SSD or M.2. Can't decide which one to buy. Gonna use Unreal, Quixel, Visual Studio etc. What do you guys suggest?
m.2 or SSD?
plucky pagoda
Both.
north torrent
What motherboard do you have?
plucky pagoda
Unless your motherboard supports multiple m2
delicate yoke
MSI B450 Gaming Plus
north torrent
If it supports NVMe, then that is going to be faster. If it doesn't, then it is all a matter of form factor.
gilded vigil
do you guys think a rtx 2060 super is enough for ray tracing in ue4?
delicate yoke
already using normal SSD for windows but
would that be ok to use
m.2 with normal SSD
plucky pagoda
I've used that MB. It has one slot. I'd put your OS on a drive using nvme
delicate yoke
gonna buy the 480GB m.2 for Unreal, Quixel, Visual Studio etc. it'll be enough
plucky pagoda
At some point your OS will get hosed. If your projects and files are on a separate drive it will save you some grief.
delicate yoke
I'm using 120GB SSD for windows only
north torrent
Though the speed difference from regular SSD to NVMe isn't nearly as noticeable as switching from HDD to SSD.
In practice as long as you are using some sort of SSD you should be fine.
plucky pagoda
Those drive sizes are really small for working with UE
north torrent
I have Unreal on a standard SSD and my boot drive is an NVMe.
delicate yoke
yeah i know but enough for me to run it 😄
plucky pagoda
Maybe.
delicate yoke
with cache, the unreal folder is about 260GB rn
plucky pagoda
An engine install can go close to and over 100GB sometimes
delicate yoke
using on HDD
north torrent
The RTX 2060 is good for a lot of things, but I don't think I would use if for raytracing.
delicate yoke
i hate this fact that when we install any program on system drive
the storage makes nearly full
always deleting the %temp% folder
plucky pagoda
You have temp files and cache and a really small drive size
delicate yoke
every 2 weeks I'm formatting my C drive(120GB SSD)
north torrent
I would start thinking about saving money for a 1tb ssd.
gilded vigil
The RTX 2060 is good for a lot of things, but I don't think I would use if for raytracing.
@north torrent i meant the 2060 super
delicate yoke
this unreal's Compiling makes me mad sometimes
north torrent
Wouldn't get that either if my main goal was raytracing. Though I would recommend it for regular gaming as it is the best price to performance ratio.
Ducks make me mad sometimes, Mr. Shida.
gilded vigil
Wouldn't get that either if my main goal was raytracing. Though I would recommend it for regular gaming as it is the best price to performance ratio.
@north torrent what would you recommend (without being a 2080 ti because i don't have that kind of money)
north torrent
Honestly, to get good performance for Raytracing in 2020 there isn't a cheap option...
Raytracing being practical for the average person is sort of a next generation thing.
RTX 3060.
gilded vigil
Honestly, to get good performance for Raytracing in 2020 there isn't a cheap option...
Raytracing being practical for the average person is sort of a next generation thing.
@north torrent doesn't need to be necessarily cheap, but anything cheaper than a 2080 ti
north torrent
You can look up the performance people got on Raytracing games on YouTube.
I personally think the RTX 2080 isn't a very good price to performance value.
I have an RTX 2070 and it is great until I turn on raytracing. Then it isn't so great.
Maybe the 2070 super.
Are you trying to make a game with raytracing or play a game with raytracing?
gilded vigil
make a game with ray tracing
gaming sometimes too, but the reason i want to buy a rtx is to make a game with ray tracing really
north torrent
Well, everything I have heard says than Nvidia's next generation is going to blow this generation's raytracing out of the water... So might be worth waiting a bit.
I heard that the 3060 is going to have the raytracing performance of a 2080ti.
If that is true, the value of getting a 20 series for raytracing now isn't going to be the best.
What are you currently running?
gilded vigil
i'm upgrading my system next year, so until then i think nvidia will at least announce the rtx 30 series
north torrent
I would just wait if I were you then, if Raytracing is your main concern.
Nvidia is announcing something this Thursday.
gilded vigil
not going to get the card rn, so i can wait
signal citrus
I could care less about rt in next cards. I’d really like more power though
north torrent
The 20 series was sort of testing the waters of raytracing. The 1st generation of a new thing usually isn't the best value.
signal citrus
Seems like a 30% performance increase (yawn)
north torrent
I heard the 30 series cards are going to have the same vram numbers and only an average increase in overall power.
No different than the jumps we have seen before.
signal citrus
2080ti was underwhelming too
delicate yoke
Which one do you suggest on these then, 500 GB M2 or 1TB SSD? Same price on my country. 😄
north torrent
Well, I wouldn't get my hopes up Mr. Soulless Pat.
Phones with buttons aren't coming back either.
gilded vigil
I heard that the 3060 is going to have the raytracing performance of a 2080ti.
@north torrent in case that rumor was reality, what cpu could i pair it with?
north torrent
1tb SSD.
signal citrus
Higher capacity ssds are usually faster too
north torrent
If you are going to build your new PC next year, then a Ryzen 4700.
delicate yoke
I have Ryzen 5 3600X which is nice for me 😛
signal citrus
Wait for 4xxx
delicate yoke
2x 1TB HDD and 1x 120GB SSD
north torrent
I expect good things for the second generation of 7nm.
north torrent
The 3000 series was the first 7nm cpus from AMD.
north torrent
So I held out and didn't hop on the bandwagon.
I only hopped on the first generation RTX bandwagon because I absolutely needed a gpu.
But GTX 1080 to RTX 2070 isn't really much of a jump. Just runs a bit less hot.
signal citrus
I’ve ridden a wagon through a pumpkin patch once
north torrent
Pumpkins are cool.
signal citrus
Super orangey
delicate yoke
I'll get 1 TB SSD then. So should i move my Windows from 120GB SSD to 1TB SSD?
signal citrus
Depends on speed
north torrent
I'm going to buy a laptop in the near future and wait to upgrade my PC until the RTX 3080ti and Ryzen 4700x are released.
signal citrus
Why not a ryzen 9?
north torrent
Why?
agile egret
signal citrus
We’ve got no clue on the Lineup I guess
north torrent
I don't think I could run a computer with only 120gb for the boot drive... it would always be close to full for me, and I try to use my other drives for anything I possible can...
signal citrus
That’s how I’d like to go out
north torrent
I wouldn't use anything less than 250gb to boot Windows.
signal citrus
Yeah I usually go for biggest drive for os
Treating the os as something that can be contained is a mistake
north torrent
I am going to go for the best single core performance and the best performance to wattage ratio.
Having some ungodly number of cores isn't important to me.
If the most expensive Ryzen 4000 has the best performance to power ratio, then that's what I will buy.
agile egret
pay extra for the power supply too get the best efficiency
north torrent
I never use less than a platinum.
signal citrus
Some platinum/titanium psus are nonsense though/ poorly manufactured
But yeah they will save you on energy
signal citrus
Smol?
north torrent
My next rig is going to be an SF750.
I think large power supplies are one of the biggest factors that detract from the look of a build...
Atx power supplies are just so huge and bulky...
This is the other one I was looking at, but I have had very good luck with my Corsairs.
mossy nexus
Goodbye Twitch UnrealEngine category ...
delicate yoke
i think i have a problem on my SSD?
mossy nexus
you should be getting up to 300ish MB/s. How full is the drive?
ah only 53%
Something certainly looks odd. It might be the software you are using to benchmark it though?
delicate yoke
Used CrystalDiskMark 7
signal citrus
Serial ata limits
delicate yoke
how can i remove it?
mossy nexus
naa sata isn't the problem otherwise the read score would be lower too
gilded vigil
Goodbye Twitch UnrealEngine category ...
@mossy nexus why?
mossy nexus
Because it's not there anymore.
bronze axle
Did they finally get rid of it?
I still saw it in my recommended categories as of yesterday, although there were only 5 people streaming to it.
gilded vigil
yeah, it usually had around 3-5 people streaming unreal engine
and they were mostly people that weren't doing anything
so it makes sense to just get rid of it
bronze axle
I knew it was going away eventually because Victor said on Twitch that they were moving to Science & Technology.
mossy nexus
I hope at least it gets a tag
plucky pagoda
Does the move result in better inclusion in searches on twitch?
mossy nexus
only if the streamer uses a relevant tag. Game Development looks like the obvious choice just now.
fathom wadi
https://www.polygon.com/2020/5/12/21256388/valorant-riot-games-anti-cheat-vanguard-closed-beta-bans
Oh look, their anti-cheat doesn't work. But remember "this banwave is only the beginning" says Tencent assets who install mal/spyware on gamer's PCs
its like the whole world is dumb as shit sometimes
vast heron
No Anti-Cheat should have access to player's Memory period.
Server Side stuff or Client Side with limited access also fine.
fathom wadi
there is no point as you can mask what is in memory anyway. Even shut it off to specific parts, hence the kernel level. But then you are now offering up the player's kernel to cheat creators who will attack it to get past the kernel anti-cheat.
They should just have paid access servers. It works for Counter-strike better than VAC which is almost 2 decades old
People don't want to lose their monetary investment. Free to play games has no recourse to losing your account when you are a cheater because you don't care about your account in the first place
vast heron
Yes also most cheaters i know don't care about loosing 60 dollars because they can buy 5-6 accunts at once.
If you are playing a game that is level based loosing your character really very bad.
1000 hours of work is gone puff
fathom wadi
depends on the game but yeah. These days all you are losing is your season pass stuff and thats all shite anyway. Cosmetics and items already in the game. I've yet to see a worthy season pass outside of Magic The Gathering
fathom wadi
those are single player games tho
vast heron
yes i know.
fathom wadi
well who cares about cheating in single player? 😄
vast heron
Battlefield 3 Season Pass worth it
too many maps, new vehicles, new factions, new weapons.
fathom wadi
I've not seen that one. I used to want to play it but I never got around to it
vast heron
Season Pass include Battlefield 2 Maps Remastered, New Large Battle Maps, Tank Battle Map, Jet Battle Map, New Infantry Maps, Map Destroyed By Earthquake, New Faction, New Weapons.
fathom wadi
The worst one I've seen has to be Destiny 2. It's utterly pointless to me. You get shaders and engrams. Which means you get a crayon and a level-based lootbox for items that you are supposed to earn in game through playing it. Who the hell needs more than a couple of shaders in that game though?
vast heron
wrost system ever, once you unlock better weapon you need that shader again.
fathom wadi
The Division 2 season pass was crap also. Same thing. Cosmetics and items you are supposed to play the game for
vast heron
I don't see cosmetic items as a meaninful content.
fathom wadi
me neither. Utterly pointless to me except one time, in SWTOR, I painted my Sith Sorcerer's lightsaber black and red to match my outfit
vast heron
I want new gameplay features, new equipment, new guns, new enemies, new locations/maps
Yes you are right
fathom wadi
they must sell a lot of them though, otherwise they wouldn't waste dev time on them
vast heron
Cosmetic Items get fortnite billions.
Also GTA V sells pay to win items that give you ingame advantage for money they make billions too.
In GTA Online SharkCards are required if you don't want to play 30 hours a week.
or cheat
fathom wadi
What I would pay for, is the ability to bring my own models in. I know it wont happen due to copyright claims (as Disney and Marvel have both been litigious regarding that) but if it's my model, that I made, and there is some fair use agreement in place, I would love to have custom models
vast heron
If game has modding tools (most games don't) you can use your custom models in your server like in CSGO.
In CSGO you can use your own character models in your own server.
fathom wadi
yeah Ive seen that before but it looked problematic in the sense that someone was spawning attack helicopters in DE_Dust2 :p
fathom wadi
last real mod I played was warcraft mod for CS 1.6
vast heron
Last good mod i played was Fallout 4 mod called Fourville
My singleplayer game has only Battle Arenas you fight against waves of enemies. Is that bad 😄
2-3 waves not too much.
fathom wadi
naah I couldn't even complete that game. I played it through a fair way but it lost it's way
fathom wadi
fathom wadi
I mean, it's no Path of Exile 🙂
vast heron
Wow
fathom wadi
thats over 7 years or so, which aint so bad
vast heron
Incredible, Path of Exile is very good game.
fathom wadi
my favourite and I consider it the best of all time
vast heron
I'm also exited about Cyberpunk 2077 Online, coming after Cyberpunk 2077 release.
fathom wadi
it evolves like no other game
vast heron
CDPR said they will make Online mod for Cyberpunk after release.
I may start to Path of Exile with a friend
fathom wadi
its not an easy game to start new. It's rather over-complicated now, but if you like that kind of thing, it's a journey
vast heron
I will only play the story not hardcore.
fathom wadi
I played the first 2 years hardcore only. But the issues became too much when I was loading into The Docks level, and a monster was near the spawn and killed me before the level had finished loading properly
vast heron
They should make a MMORPG like Dark Souls, Leveling Up does not make you stronger but you get better armor, monsters always deadly.
fathom wadi
they added a timer so when you enter a level you get immunity, but it didn't work. Loading it up from a HDD took longer than the timer too. So I tried to get them to change it so the timer only starts once the level is fully loaded. But they didn't bother. So I ended up playing through a ramdrive, then getting an SSD. The problem went away then. But I stopped hardcore after that.
I even offered to code it for them
vast heron
I understand.
fathom wadi
That being said, it had bugs that can kill a league sometimes. The Syndicate league bugs were terrible and the most recent issue was Herald stacking (a buff/aura) that made you invulnerable.
vast heron
lol same thing happened in GTA Online when i was playing there was a Bullet Proof Van, that is normally %90 resistant to explosives with a glitch Bullet Proof Van becomes %100 resistant to explosives so nobody can blow you up and you can shoot everybody only way to kill you shooting through glass which is hard.
fathom wadi
yeah I remember that. I also remember making my first million in the first day I played due to an exploit where you could sell the same motorbike again and again. Bought the bugatti veyron model car right away 😄
vast heron
😄 yeah good days then rockstar took my glitched money than i quit game.
fathom wadi
these days it takes forever to make a million
I have almost all the businesses, but it feels like a freaking job to keep them running
vast heron
Yes, too much time wasted with friends. Me and my friends all of us lack talent and skills to make a game but we are working hard so we can atleast make someting even if it is bad looking game we will release it 😄
fathom wadi
many terrible games have made millions.
vast heron
I hate asset flips, we are working hard to and not copy pasting anything. All assets licensed and produced by students in 3D Design. 😄
That way i get assets cheaper.
fathom wadi
blushes in HLSL
I think I have metered my daily awesome from the internet for one day. I should do some work. Have fun 🙂
sage tendon
prove the opposite first
tho, my experience with dayz seem to be a bit out-of-date 🤔
sage tendon
did it got better than the mod?
hasty cargo
my memory of the mod was not so great, glitchy af AI
sage tendon
the standalone was worse
hasty cargo
it seems pretty solid now
sage tendon
so most stayed with the mod, especially when arma 3 came along
weirdly enough, dayz mod came out for arma 3 while the standalone was just out
like... why do you spread your player base like that!?
hasty cargo
did the same dude make the arma 3 mod?
real palm
personally fund the studio to get lifetime access
rich quiver
Microsoft is mostly funding them
raw rose
By far the worst monetization method I've ever seen. This was a meme 10 years ago
rich quiver
witch is a bad investment
raw rose
Consoles blew up in popularity to get away from the arcades
vocal vapor
If the culling can't survive as a free to play game it can't survive as a pay to start paying to play game.
scarlet tartan
If any of you like vgm and house music
https://youtu.be/EPgnrC3T6JY
oak pumice
So I read somewhere we can like make a game in 4.25 for the new Xbox series x and the new ps5 how does that work and do we have to wait till they come out or something
signal citrus
haven't heard anything different than how it already works with the current platforms
north torrent
You have to hit the 'export to Playstation 5' button.
zenith pilot
zinc matrix
they deleted the unreal engine category on twitch
north torrent
I'm not your daddy, Mr. MMXXIXXXIOOXIXOXO
ancient hornet
ancient ingot
@north torrent but you are my daddy 😉
north torrent
No.
ancient ingot
😭
soft night
i had that feeling that time
but engine is more now so welcome to science and techology
vast heron
When we can make 10,000 player battleroyale in same server.
How much CPU,RAM,Bandwith it will take 😄
What is your future predictions for 10,000 player servers with 5000 vs 5000 TDM on COD lobbies lols 😄
sage tendon
I think its more an issue for the client to handle that than it is for a server
zinc matrix
@vast heron just azure
soft night
scaling plans with good networking
we can then live like in ready player one world too
@zinc matrix I could think more of serverpool with voip in that case
zinc matrix
@soft night u thinking a bit tooo much
soft night
never thinking bit too much
everytime 10trillion scenarius in mind
now to think of being clusters of people in one area for voip
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix would sound the same as always
nothin new
you never heard 10k people talking at the same time?
where do you live?!
wet stratus
Bro what are the devs behind The Culling thinking?
pearl elk
they are culling their audience one release at a time
wet stratus
ba dum tss
winter zealot
oh wow epic games not sponsoring unrealengine on twitch is such bullshit
it's a game engine, people are using it for entertainment creation, mostly games.... it should be in "game development"
zinc matrix
winter zealot
it looks like epic is starting to become more and more anoying, I hope it's not gonna continue like this
zinc matrix
lol you still making games on your own?
😄 adorable
i just rented a artist and a coder and my game now makes me 3000 euro pe rmonth
without me doing anything
uber
zinc matrix
what are uber ads
winter zealot
" i make 999999 euro a month with this simple trick... what's next's gonna surprise you 😮 "
zinc matrix
lol
gilded vigil
sage tendon
did Karol multiply?
zinc matrix
yo can someone send me a good lod tutorial? i wanna make grass in my game without having to drop to 1fps
is ue5 even near done?
gilded vigil
is ue5 even near done?
@zinc matrix they revealed it
winter zealot
that looks amazing yup
zinc matrix
that's crazy
gilded vigil
it's official
zinc matrix
btw can someone tell me a good lod tutorial
gilded vigil
and it's showing things running in the ps5, so i expect it releasing this year or next year
winter zealot
I wonder how different it's gonna be
zinc matrix
i doubt by much
deep glen
https://www.twitch.tv/thegameawards watch now
gilded vigil
this tech demo looks insane
zinc matrix
but maybe much more features
gilded vigil
https://www.twitch.tv/thegameawards watch now
@deep glen THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP NON STOP
soft night
I am not
gilded vigil
dude i'm SO EXCITED
rich quiver
so they rename 4.26 to 5
gilded vigil
lol
rich quiver
gilded vigil
dude i want this so bad
soft night
i cancelled 2020
rich quiver
so basically the same thing they did for ue4
gilded vigil
also the live stream is the video they sent on youtube
sage tendon
"Coming 2021"
gilded vigil
coming the day half life 3 releases
wet stratus
Bro I'm out here learning UE4 since a week and these guys are announcing UE5.
winter zealot
I hope this nanite stuff can be downscaled in a very flexible way if necessary tho
soft night
i want unreal engine category to twitch
sage tendon
I dont think much will change between ue4 and ue5
soft night
its too late for me to start watching it
tulip orbit
UE5 🤯 New engine from scratch? or just 4.26?
rich quiver
@soft night they remove the category yesterday
gilded vigil
UE5 🤯 New engine from scratch? or just 4.26?
@tulip orbit 4.265
winter zealot
bats created using niagara== prolly lots of similar stuff to ue4
rich quiver
some form of 4.2? rename to 5
soft night
dont blame bats Unreal Engine
zinc matrix
my heart says yes but my computer says no
gilded vigil
to run the tech demo you need a really simple pc, a rtx 400000000000080 ti
wet stratus
ue5 switches to c# instead of c++
zinc matrix
imma go to nasa and rent a super computer real quick
rich quiver
and they added the paragon animation stuff years later on this version offcourse
gilded vigil
ue5 switches to c# instead of c++
@wet stratus ue5 switches to python instead of c++
tulip orbit
man, I need to start saving money to afford a compy to run ue5...
gilded vigil
time to buy 3 rtx 2080 ti's to run ue5
sage tendon
"After introducing python to the engine, UE5 will run entirely on Java, making it instantly compatible to any device"
soft night
@gilded vigil Blender switch from python to c++
wet stratus
how tf do you reply to messages?
zinc matrix
wait did are they going to switch to c#?
winter zealot
u guys are joking tho right ? it's not gonna replace c++ by c# 😄 c# should replace blueprints
wet stratus
Fuck it man, program your games using brainfuck
gilded vigil
u guys are joking tho right ? it's not gonna replace c++ by c# 😄 c# should replace blueprints
@winter zealot lol its a joke
zinc matrix
nahhh
gilded vigil
if it happens ill cry
winter zealot
😄
gilded vigil
Fuck it man, program your games using brainfuck
@wet stratus lol
zinc matrix
i'll die without blueprints
soft night
you know UE5 will use pillows as coding language
winter zealot
and naturally I fell for it 😊 congrats guys 😊
@soft night much thanks but in reality it should use VBlanco 😮
wet stratus
I'm actually mostly excited about the new animation features tbh
winter zealot
@zinc matrix yea sometimes bps are neat but be sure you can be efficient with c# as well
zinc matrix
well fuck me then
winter zealot
and with UE4 blueprints are more efficient than c++ in terms of iteration
soft night
I dont have unreal engine installed on my machine anymore
as it was too much space taking
zinc matrix
the main reason i left unity cause i didn't fuck with c# or writing code
gilded vigil
as it was too much space taking
@soft night build it from source and you'll see what is too much space taking
zinc matrix
so imma stick to blueprints
soft night
@gilded vigil I dont have external disk to expand space
wet stratus
@zinc matrix unity has blueprints too now
soft night
26gigs was too much
zinc matrix
@soft night you need an external harddrive or ssd it's game changing
soft night
think about it
gilded vigil
@zinc matrix unity has blueprints too now
@wet stratus not convinced to move to unity
rich quiver
that means a shitload of games need to ported from ue4 to ue5
winter zealot
@zinc matrix fair enough also i'm pretty sure they kept visual scripting in place
wet stratus
@gilded vigil idk what to tell you lol im not convinced either
gilded vigil
well, ue5 is comming 2021
zinc matrix
unreal got everything whilst unity i need to get 50 things from the asset store to get it up and running
winter zealot
sorry to ask that but the buisnessmodel is gonna be the exact same as UE4 right ? 😮
it's important it's an awesome buisness model
zinc matrix
i wonder if in 100 years we can connect headsets to our brain and make a game with just imagination
soft night
m4a files not supported in unity or ue4 so i am out from things
wet stratus
@winter zealot lol its like the new the culling pay to play per match model
soft night
tell me when its UE7
winter zealot
btw the nanite stuff looks like renderman's micropolygons also available in blender using cycles renderer
wet stratus
pay 99 cents per hour
rich quiver
UE5 will start like UE4
custom contract first
later everyone
zinc matrix
im so broke but i really need a new gpu to be able to run anything
winter zealot
@rich quiver uh oh are you sure about that ?
wet stratus
@zinc matrix i feel you man
rich quiver
🤔
gilded vigil
they have this year to release 4.26, after that its ue5
rich quiver
they have done it with every version
zinc matrix
epic games is unlocking a new game tomorrow
winter zealot
V4 I don't think UE3 was royalty based
zinc matrix
i think it's gonna be watch dogs 2
winter zealot
it's more like it was a UE4 thing no ?
gilded vigil
time to throw my ue4 knowledge in the garbage and learn ue5
rigid shoal
So, is UE5 really that much different from 4? I vaguely recall several people saying that there wouldn't really be anything replacing UE4 for a good while. I feel so ... confused and weird.
gilded vigil
when it releases
wet stratus
@rigid shoal Game Maker Studio is the new industry-standard bro
rich quiver
EOS is live
zinc matrix
wet stratus
whats eos?
pearl elk
2020 sure is a rollercoaster
rich quiver
correct
faint dock
@winter zealot that's almost going under
wet stratus
whats epic online services? lol
faint dock
winter zealot
@faint dock what do you mean tho ? 😮
wet stratus
@zinc matrix conspiracy theories, i see
rich quiver
2 services is one
wet stratus
@faint dock thanks
zinc matrix
what else do we do it's a mystery game we gotta search for clues
solid aurora
but will it be free ?
rich quiver
rigid shoal
Unreal Engine royalties waived on first $1 million in game revenue
faint dock
@winter zealot ue5 taking away all the attention from online services
winter zealot
currently so worried of the UE5 buisness model
@faint dock yeah it's completely un-noticed because of UE5
wet stratus
man epic is truly a rare example of a company that knows how to make its fanboys happy and get money in the process
soft night
timing for this is so bad
faint dock
they're popping all the Champaign bottles at once 😄
wet stratus
for real
were just happily sucking on papa epics titties
or at least me
that came out weird
solid aurora
omg
gilded vigil
they're probally gonna remove ue4 completely like they did to ue3
solid aurora
nah
faint dock
tim dumping on xbox
soft night
i am not watching it and didnt get info and now i dont even care to open it
faint dock
"ps5 storage system best in class on consoles" 😛
solid aurora
it's seems to be going much smoother
soft night
xbox series x is better than ps5
zinc matrix
@wet stratus bro you said "sucking on papa epics titties" how isn't that supposed to come out weird XD
wet stratus
@zinc matrix 😆 idk man
gilded vigil
it's seems to be going much smoother
@solid aurora yes, thats why they were showing off their billions of polygons in real time
soft night
@gilded vigil how much that take from source? 120gigs?
gilded vigil
@gilded vigil how much that take from source? 120gigs?
@soft night ?
zinc matrix
im pc, but ps over xbox all day
wet stratus
I'm genuinely interested what CryEngine has in store.
solid aurora
honestly I'm most interested in buisness model
subscription ?
free
source available ?
wet stratus
It won't change probably.
gilded vigil
please GOD no subscription model
solid aurora
i hope so
soft night
cryengine is looking to hire raytracing project
wet stratus
Yeah, Epic isn't like Microsoft or these shitty companies.
wet stratus
I bet they won't make a subscription.
soft night
you have to pay 5euros per month for epic
gilded vigil
unity and cryengine
@solid aurora ue5 just beat other engines to their death
zinc matrix
anyone know bulletspeed in chinese multiplayer shooter games for sniping?
soft night
i use now unity as it take less space
zinc matrix
what does that even mean velcro
wet stratus
How come you guys think Unity is dead?
rich quiver
its not
zinc matrix
good if you like shopping in the asset store XD
soft night
unity released they heretic digital human model
rigid shoal
Crossing my fingers for 2D tools and support. 😦
faint dock
haha no
gilded vigil
not saying its dead, saying that if they dont come up with something unity will be a dead engine
Crossing my fingers for 2D tools and support. 😦
@rigid shoal you wish
wet stratus
@rigid shoal Bro, what? UE for 2D?
wet stratus
Dude their demo literally focused on making movie-like 3D graphics.
zinc matrix
let em do what they want kosmon
soft night
@zinc matrix its good in package manager in engine part as you do assetstore shopping but packagemanager only in editor
rigid shoal
UE4 for 2D, imo, is not even that bad especially if you already know UE4.
rich quiver
it have 2d support but not finish
wet stratus
Epic: naah, it was a joke. heres some 2d stuff
winter zealot
unity is much more scalable comparing to UE4
gilded vigil
bruh unreal for 2d
zinc matrix
now if only ue5 would actually make my projects look like that lmao
solid aurora
now
rigid shoal
From what I heard, Unity is hard to actually finish a project with. Which I guess translates into not being scalable.
winter zealot
unity can run seamlessly on low end mobiles with very small package size ( <50mb )
solid aurora
I can't masturabte enough
soft night
when try to install ue4.25 it need 76gig advance
zinc matrix
can someone show me a good lod tutorial so i can make my game run better? i can't find a good one
wtf iniside?
gilded vigil
at first i thought it was just some fake pretendind to be unreal engine, until i checked the channel, after that my brain just blew up
winter zealot
UE4 fundamentally seems to be more about " AAA high quality stuff " even if it runs on mobile of course I don't know if that's gonna change with UE5
rich quiver
4.25 migration to ue5
soft night
@winter zealot yeah like paper2d seems not worked on lately
torn dawn
original content
winter zealot
@soft night yup and i don't see many games using paper 2d even if it's a cool idea
zinc matrix
yo wtf @soft night my unreal is only 30 gigs
soft night
@zinc matrix compare to unity what i can get what i want early before install and its take about 8 gigs
gilded vigil
yo wtf @soft night my unreal is only 30 gigs
@zinc matrix mine is 33gb
zinc matrix
lol
gilded vigil
so much bigger
winter zealot
it sort of looks like UE5 is gonna have lots of UE4 stuff
rich quiver
migration
faint dock
RPG Maker > UE5
zinc matrix
yo this guy is massively underrated
his tutorials are short and straight to the point
gilded vigil
it sort of looks like UE5 is gonna have lots of UE4 stuff
@winter zealot true, but i'm still excited anyways
soft night
well unity guys released this https://blogs.unity3d.com/2020/05/13/the-heretic-digital-human-package-out-now/
zinc matrix
STILL LOOK UGLY
bold fulcrum
Unity? They still exist ?
zinc matrix
jk it looks cool but unreal still cooler
hasty cargo
just chiming to say @ebon onyx was right after all, realtime subdivision is the future
winter zealot
@gilded vigil oh but it's a feature, much less stuff to re-learn
gilded vigil
jk it looks cool but unreal still cooler
@zinc matrix i think the ue4 digital human looks much better
zinc matrix
definitely
rich quiver
i still havent learn Niagara
gilded vigil
definitely
@zinc matrix can't tell if you're being sarcastic
zinc matrix
im not
gilded vigil
ok
zinc matrix
ok tbh the unreal guy is uglier then the unity guy but the graphics do look better
gilded vigil
ok tbh the unreal guy is uglier then the unity guy but the graphics do look better
@zinc matrix that's what i meant
zinc matrix
oh ok
faint dock
this is gonna sting unity
gilded vigil
what is unity when you have ue5
soft night
i work with unity right now very exclusive as i dont have money to get external drive
zinc matrix
oh well
wet stratus
Lol you guys hate on Unity too much.
gilded vigil
i'm pretty sure you wont need a source build for chaos in ue4, but i'm not 100% sure
rich quiver
Nanite, an engine that allows for high-detailed photographic source material to be imported into games as virtualized textures, and Lumen, a dynamic lighting engine that can handle moving light sources and their impact on shadows and rendering. this already use in the RE engine
deep glen
joking is fine, as long as there is no full-on slander about unity, its all in good fun.
rich quiver
the technique
wet stratus
RE?
soft night
unreal engine install need to be more flexible what you want
rich quiver
@wet stratus https://residentevil.fandom.com/wiki/RE_Engine
wet stratus
I thought RE was made in Unreal lol
gilded vigil
lol
wet stratus
Where can I download and start learning the RE Engine?
soft night
Luosengine could be full of VFX
winter zealot
the royalty news are awesome 😊
rich quiver
RE engine is private engine for capcom employees
wet stratus
Guys where do I switch Affinity to LOW in UE4?
winter zealot
so hopefully they're going to keep the same buisness model with UE5 fingers crossed
wet stratus
I have really long render times...
@winter zealot There's no way they're gonna make you pay for the engine and still ask for royalties lol
That would go from Epic being Epic to Epic being EA
winter zealot
@wet stratus i'd really like them to maintain the same buisness model : free engine and paying royalties on games
wet stratus
I agree, then small devs like us can just have fun for free lol
winter zealot
yup
pearl elk
Well that was a ride
winter zealot
sure was
gilded vigil
hopefully they will FINALLY add a flat design theme as an option
chilly igloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=qC5KtatMcUw&feature=emb_logo
What you think guys? 😬
soft night
@zinc matrix I cant get it install to my machine
still quarry
soft night
@zinc matrix well the first it require 78gigs for me
the 4.24 needed 26gigs what i was able to cut things
had to uninstall that as windows update needed space
for example i can have 2 windows and webgl thins installed for unity engine for that 15 gigs about
well if one of my unity version take like 8gigs so there is much difference of what unreal engine need for disc space
fluid bloom
you'll be buying games preinstalled on SSDs in the future
we'll be going back to cartridge like systems
😛
lucid walrus
echoes of a decade ago... https://youtu.be/00gAbgBu8R4
soft night
i saw clip of that thing before and wasnt impressed and still arent impressed of it
quaint basin
zinc matrix
yo im gonna make my game run so well with all these lods GO CRAZY
rain steppe
What do you think about UE? Should begin learning UE4 or w8 until 5?🤔
rain steppe
But if 5 will be drastically differ from 4?
zinc matrix
is 5 going to be even that different?
rain steppe
I know basics of ue4, but I don't like how interface looks.
Will they change it in 5?
thin storm
I have no idea but I dont think they make a complete new editor UI.
lucid walrus
no, I bet the UE interface will still look like the iPhone ca 2007 even in UE5 🤣
(I must admit, I actually grown to like it)
rain steppe
Hm... Community of UE doesn't like UI ether? Not just me?
soft night
wait for UE7
wet stratus
lol
rain steppe
Does the new cloud system included in actual version of ue4?
inner cloud
ok feels bad
when I havent released a proper sold game yet and worked through UE3,4
and UE5 is coming already 😄
time to work my ass off and finish something on UE4
wild crypt
plucky pagoda
signal citrus
Nice
plucky pagoda
It just keeps coming.
rich quiver
senua 2 in UE5
signal citrus
Pointing lots of pointing
rich quiver
rare sparrow
Unreal Engine V-bucks
ancient ingot
🤣
north torrent
Back when I started using Zbrush, it couldn't even handle 33,000,000 tris...
Now Tim Sweeny want to just import that many tris straight into Unreal.
I remember the first time I made a 6,000,000 tri model in Zbrush, I thought that was the peak of technology.
rain steppe
Where epic grabs money to maintain so much cool features for free? I doubt that Fortnite is so profitable. 🤔
ancient ingot
tencent
north torrent
It is.
rain steppe
I heard that tencent is bad
north torrent
Tencent is life.
ancient ingot
it is but they own a huge stake in epic
north torrent
I used to live near their big home office building.
rare sparrow
Let's play a game: How many times can the UE5/EOS stuff be reposted to https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/
rain steppe
This company is affiliated to chinas government which is garbage terrorsts, right?
north torrent
I'd rather deal with China's government than the US. At least China is consistent about being dicks to people.
ancient ingot
lol true
rain steppe
You'd rather deal with a country which treat people like trash instead of a country that treat only some people as trash?
north torrent
Yes.
rain steppe
Bad.
north torrent
Because that means the rich people get punished for crimes.
Because the government doesn't care how much money they have, they will throw you in jail anyways.
That's the whole reason Hong Kong is worried, lots of really rich criminals who don't want extradited to China where they might actually get punished for murdering their wife or whatever.
ancient ingot
nom nom nom
rain steppe
We are talking about china, correct?
One of the most corrupted country in the world.
mossy nexus
The USA and the UK have pretty high imprisonment levels based on a per capita basis. We are not the good guys either.
north torrent
I am not saying that China are the good guys.
But they are certainly only second tier bad.
mossy nexus
USA has the highest proportion of prisoners in the world, the prison system is slave labour.
north torrent
China > Hong Kong
rain steppe
China = russia = shit
ancient ingot
lol
mossy nexus
Sure China has faults but so does every single country in the world.
broken sigil
Usa is not any better with that orange clown as the president
bronze axle
A reminder: Please keep the conversation civil here. Thanks.
north torrent
A lot of China's problems stem from an entire century of the western world and Imperial Japan kicking China around like a punching bag.
rain steppe
Saying that china has faults like any other country is like saying shit tastes bad like some spoiled food
north torrent
Most of the western world is just mad that China has raised themselves out of that 3rd world punching bag situation.
mossy nexus
@bronze axle does adding and " old chap" at the end of a comment count as civil? 😄
north torrent
Yes, they have a long ways to go in improving, but I have a lot more hope for the future of China than the future of the US.
bronze axle
@rain steppe Please read the reminder I just posted.
rain steppe
I read it.
bronze axle
Then please abide by it.
rain steppe
@north torrent you're wrong@
north torrent
I don't think it is reasonable to just expect what was basically a 3rd world country with over 1,000,000,000 people to just overnight get everything right.
How many countries have you lived in, Mr. Burger?
rain steppe
One)
north torrent
Let me guess, the US.
rain steppe
Not really, but close
mossy nexus
Mexico!
rich quiver
Unreal 5 startup intro 😩
mossy nexus
Let's play guess the country
winter zealot
@rich quiver wow you mean there's more UE5 streams ?? 😮
north torrent
The United States has an equal level of indoctrination in its people as China. Just in China it isn't really hidden.
I lived in the US for most of my life, and when I started living in other parts of the world I realized how insane some of the stuff we believe really is.
But it is hard to see that until you step out.
broken sigil
The lumen gi in ue5 looks like it might be the best looking gi solution I've seen
rich quiver
the final part is the startup intro
rain steppe
@north torrent 🤔 but...
north torrent
I'm done now, Mr. Pillows, back to looking at these insane polygon counts.
mossy nexus
I don't get the whole flag waving thing that the US seems to obsessed with
rich quiver
https://youtu.be/qC5KtatMcUw?t=519 @winter zealot
north torrent
Do you remember when the main character of a videogame was limited to 4,000 polygons, Mr. Pillows?
mossy nexus
yeah we know V4
winter zealot
@north torrent yeah It really was something
the games or the industry were very different
mossy nexus
4,000? pffft. Remember when they were limited to sprites. 16x16 sprites at that
north torrent
Guess I should stop wasting my time optimizing.
gilded vigil
remember when games couldn't be 3d at all
north torrent
Does anyone here use Quadspinner Gaea?
rain steppe
What is the best tool for terrain generating? Houdini?
mossy nexus
remember trying to get a ZX81 to actually load a game
north torrent
I use Gaea, Mr. Burger.
gilded vigil
remember when computers didn't have screens
winter zealot
i remember using a 3d accelerator for the first time
rain steppe
Why not world machine?
north torrent
World Machine is old and dated. Gaea is pretty much just World Machine but updated.
winter zealot
it was amazing to see how different the picture was from software to openGL
deep glen
@north torrent I made high poly office chairs back in the day. 96 polygons
north torrent
That's pretty high poly.
rain steppe
High poly models are ok, but what about physics and destruction? I'd prefer yesterday graphics but with good physics to static UEV worlds.
mossy nexus
static?
north torrent
Well, that's the point of Chaos, Niagara, and whatever the name for the global illumination thing is.
mossy nexus
it's fully dynamic 🙂
rain steppe
I mean did you play Call of Duty? Nice graphics, but interaction lvl is close to 0.
rotund tundra
sometime it's better there's no interaction
mossy nexus
Lumen and Nanite Mao
rain steppe
I want to blow up that mountain with a rocket launcher like in Red Faction 1.
fluid bloom
those were BSP I'm pretty sure
mossy nexus
Thats nothing to do with engines, and more to do with game design.
fluid bloom
you could do it already
north torrent
Real time global illumination means that anything in your scene can move without you having to compromise on the lighting.
A natural follow up to the whole Chaos destruction project, which doesn't really work with baked lighting, at least not ideally.
rotund tundra
some of the animations don't stand up to the graphics fidelity
mossy nexus
You have to place limits, otherwise players could easily break your game
winter zealot
@rotund tundra what animations btw ?
rain steppe
Do you exited about UEV? 🤔
rich quiver
UV
gilded vigil
UEV = UV wich means 100k res textures confirmed
rotund tundra
@winter zealot I mean most of todays photo-realistic games have animations that aren't up to par with the visual fidelity.. the scene looks life like, but the characters don't, sometimes they do, but it breaks when you see them animated
not always but a lot of the time
signal citrus
That character looks quite out of place with resolution of world
rich quiver
Ubisoft have hold team dedicated to research
winter zealot
@rotund tundra ok that's interesting, also maybe because the animations needs to match the gameplay
rich quiver
they dont make games
rotund tundra
we're getting close with different approaches, but not crossing the uncanny valley yet
so for me current gamey animations fit better with yesterdays graphics
fluid bloom
the problem with animations like that is that they take away a ton of player control
rotund tundra
or it's like watching a movie shot on camera that has a charater drawn on top