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fathom wadi
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I know I was just jesting ๐Ÿ™‚

north torrent
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You have every right to believe that. I have no opinion on it one way or the other.

They seem plausible to me, but like I said, plausible doesn't mean true.

fast cobalt
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where the heck is the meme channel ?

fathom wadi
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I've seen more honesty in politicians in the past month than I ever have in my entire life.

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I tell you who is a bullshiter though. Dominic Raib of the UK tory party (the guy who sat in for Boris). He has NLP flying out him like lazer beams.

primal spoke
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I hope the world can get the real numbers.

fast cobalt
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oh hey @fathom wadi - howdy.. up early or didnt sleep ?

fathom wadi
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always up late heya ๐Ÿ™‚

fast cobalt
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I've been trying to catch up on my sleep after working on the short i showed you.. hehe.. been having some nice rest for the past week or so xD

fathom wadi
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gg. staying safe and healthy I hope?

fast cobalt
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yeah always

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beer is runniung out though

fathom wadi
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cool.

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hehe my "happy goods" ran out weeks ago

fast cobalt
fathom wadi
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someone should buy them a seat. otherwise they will be still standing forever

fast cobalt
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hehehehe xD

fathom wadi
primal spoke
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Lol a Chinese tourist from Wuhan exposed the country of Singapore to the virus first

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Locked down eh?

fathom wadi
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incubation period exposed a lot of people. That couldn't be helped

primal spoke
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So how does the wuhan lock down stop a spread that already jettisoned

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Like putting the cap back on a spilled bottle.

north torrent
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A lot of Chinese cities had cases, but they never ballooned into the crazy numbers.

primal spoke
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Crazy reported numbers

fathom wadi
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because you have to start at the source to find out what it is, what it does, how it transmits, and to prevent any further exposure. It was absolutely the right thing to do. It should have been done way sooner in the rest of the world though. I mean, this could have been over in 2 weeks or so. With eradication outside of the major effected areas. The WHO had projections that if they didn't take any action, we would have lost close to a billion people

primal spoke
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Wait until the next one.

fathom wadi
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thats what they said when SARS hit

primal spoke
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World will lock down

fathom wadi
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I specifically recall someone saying the next one would be a world killer.

primal spoke
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SARS wasn't a big deal here

real palm
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lmfao didn't they just deliberately reopen the same markets it's supposed to have come from

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we ain't learn shit

fathom wadi
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yeah they prevented a lot of it and the Asian communities did their part. We should thank them, not accuse them

primal spoke
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Accuse them?

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For what?

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SARS?

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I'm 100% pointing out the fact some folks covered up this virus

fathom wadi
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no the current media rhetoric of "it came from China" and "it's China's fault" and Trumps arsehole statement that "something will be done about it" as a veiled threat. Its all leading up the war we need to recover the economy and oil prices.

real palm
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I don't see how that relates to my offhand remark that there were no lessons learned this time around?

primal spoke
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Chinese citizens themselves are pissed at their gov for the cover up

real palm
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And you can trace the origin of the virus?

primal spoke
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It killed people... Chinese people

fathom wadi
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@real palm im specifically talking about the media and those who believe China should be somehow reprimanded or are trying to lie to the world about it.

real palm
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It was just timed perfectly to seem as if a direct response is all

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perhaps there's an earlier point I missed

primal spoke
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The Chinese people were lied to by their own officials first.

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Yes they should be held accountable

fathom wadi
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I'd have to hear court evidence first before I made that judgement.

real palm
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And that'll never happen

fathom wadi
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probably not. The world is a business

real palm
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Regardless of what the truth is

primal spoke
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Watch the Chinese people's video about

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It

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The ones not censored

fathom wadi
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I will check it out, but then I dont believe what Im told remember :p

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the eternal cynic

north torrent
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To me it just sounds like people in the west don't want to believe that these Asian countries can handle an outbreak better than they can.

primal spoke
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Say what you will about the US, but dirty laundry gets aired for the world to see for better or worse

fathom wadi
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Pride comes before an outbreak ๐Ÿ˜„

primal spoke
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Spying yes, censorship no

fathom wadi
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Amazon just banned a documentary about fake news, whilst still selling Mein Kampf. Go USA !

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sorry that was unfair, but true

north torrent
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I just know that people in the US are still debating about where quarantines are important.

While in other parts of the world people just did what they were told and stopped the spreading of the virus faster.

fathom wadi
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its not the US fault. The world is a business

real palm
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I don't doubt an authoritarian regime can more effectively control a disease outbreak... but I also don't doubt that they have waaaay better information control and can present themselves however they like

north torrent
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Beyond that, I don't really worry about it.

real palm
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There isn't really a dichotomy there.

primal spoke
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Information control set other countries up for failure

north torrent
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I have no idea on the numbers, Mr. Lambda. I just personally view them as plausible.

But plausible doesn't make something true.

primal spoke
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If China was transparent to begin with then many deaths may have been avoided.

north torrent
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I very much doubt that different information would have changed anything. I don't think the US for example cares about facts.

primal spoke
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Everywhere

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Italy?

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Spain?

real palm
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I'll tell you that additional information would not have swayed US

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But the world is more than the US

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so

primal spoke
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You don't think they model after China data?

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Of course they did

real palm
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But we all know, we have the best data. I know data better than anybody else. I am the king of data. The biggest numbers! Yuge.

fathom wadi
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whoever has the best AI systems, has the best data. Probably Google, who are international and a business and not related to any country

real palm
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And we made our vaccine we didn't need to borrow up to anyone. The best, strongest vaccine. Even better than flu shots.

primal spoke
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AI systems have bias

real palm
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I...

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D'ya not...

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sigh

primal spoke
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The bias of the creator

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Anyway... deaths happened

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Chinese Gov officials lied

fathom wadi
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One man defeated Anthrax. Louis Pasteur developed a vaccine with nothing but intuition and balls.

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Then Slayer came in and the mosh pit really fired up

real palm
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I saw Anthrax and all it took to defeat them was the mic

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Half the set was instrumental

fathom wadi
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I saw Anthrax and looked at my watched and shouted "I do too !"

fathom wadi
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I wonder how it was dealt with in North Korea. I bet that was one isolated incident.

primal spoke
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Covid?

fathom wadi
primal spoke
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sigh
@real palm was this at me?

fathom wadi
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probably me. I get it a lot ๐Ÿ˜„

primal spoke
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IDK? I'm on mobile so my typing is slow and I miss stuff. So?

real palm
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I uh.

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I was satirizing Trump

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Neither of y'all got it, so I dropped it

fathom wadi
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That was a good job done by good people. We have the best people to do the good jobs.

primal spoke
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I got the huge reference

real palm
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You're fired

primal spoke
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I didn't get the short choppy one liners

fathom wadi
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I reckon Trump was trying to warn us about this virus but his handlers electrocuted him and it came out as COVFEFE

primal spoke
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I

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Dy ya not

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Sigh

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Not a good trump reference imo

real palm
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That was the after I realized you didn't get it

primal spoke
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We all got it

real palm
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I... D'ya not (get what I'm doing)... _si

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Aight.

real palm
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Cool.

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I'm out, y'all enjoy

fathom wadi
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stay safe

primal spoke
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He is if he is in north Korea

primal spoke
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One vowel could save it a bit

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Maybe a U at the beginning.

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Because it looks like an order

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Direct order

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Honestly I was thinking an a

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For be aware.

fathom wadi
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the symbol for safety is a house?

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oh its two symbols my bad

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Anquan

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Safe, secure. man languages blow my mind.

primal spoke
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I'm still very concerned for India atm

fathom wadi
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ๆ้˜ฒ seems to translate as beware of

primal spoke
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A serious outbreak there would be catastrophic

fathom wadi
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People tend to think of them as peasants but they have the most billionaires per capita and most of the latest physics papers I read are from indian and pakistani scientists.

primal spoke
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IDK anything about polio... it's contagious?

fathom wadi
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highly

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it crippled many people, put a lot into iron lungs too

primal spoke
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Roosevelt had it

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FDR

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They also have like 40 million slum dwellers

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Or that might just be in one slum.

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They were stoning medical workers

fathom wadi
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Yep. "There is nothing to fear, but fear itself, and stairs. I hate stairs"

primal spoke
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Coming into the slums

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I live in US but my neighbors are all from India and China

fathom wadi
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for(j=9;A=T(B=T(T=Math.random)*4-2)*2-1,j--;f=i=2e3)for(X=A,Y=B;X&&i--;x.fillRect(...t?[X*700+960,Y*450+720,j%2,1,x.fillStyle=`hsl(${60-i/4} 99%${99-i/39}%`]:[0,0,f,f]))Y=Y*Y-X*X+(X=2*Y*X+A,B) tempted to throw this into UE4 and see what I can do with it.

primal spoke
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Perhaps better format?

fathom wadi
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heheh yeah. It's a mandlebrot set algorithm.

primal spoke
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Umm, won't compile

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Syntax errors

fathom wadi
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no its javascript. thats why I would have to do some work

primal spoke
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Ok

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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Oh, I can use that now.

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That might be a way to clean up the generation of the star systems I'm using for a background

primal spoke
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Can you get transpiled js from node?

fathom wadi
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probably

primal spoke
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Node is C++

plucky pagoda
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A few predefined variations with a little randomization.

primal spoke
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Ik you can get transpiled js from ts

plucky pagoda
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IDk, might be easier to just use noise and pick some points.

fathom wadi
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emscripten has transcompilation between C++ / JS i believe. Not used it myself tho

bronze axle
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Node.js is good stuff.

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I haven't jumped on the Typescript bandwagon yet, though.

primal spoke
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Used ts with some angular stuff a while back

fathom wadi
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I quit webdev right as node got popular. so its something I never focused on

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Im the webdev equivalent of that guy who only listens to 1980's rock. My life ended there with HTML5 being made standard

primal spoke
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I think all Js is valid ts

bronze axle
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I learned the hard way that I only enjoy doing web dev for myself.

fathom wadi
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tell microsoft that :p

primal spoke
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I can't remember.

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C++ web dev

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Sockets

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Painful

fathom wadi
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yeah I can manage a website for myself, but never again will I work for charlatans who don't pay you, thats why Im a game develo....... hey wait a minute !

bronze axle
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lol

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Yeah, I certainly have some clients-from-hell stories.

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My game dev and audio clients have always been much better to work with overall.

fathom wadi
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yeah truth be told Ive been paid everytime I asked for cash with game dev

bronze axle
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My web dev and graphic design clients back in the day... well, I had a knack for finding clients with very low budgets.

plucky pagoda
bronze axle
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My favorite:

Me: "What is your budget?"
Client: "Money is no issue."
Me: "Here's my rate."
Client: "Oh that's too much for this project."

fathom wadi
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A man walks into a web development studio and says "Hi I need to make a change to the website you made for me.". The web developer looks at him and says "OK let's go through what you want". I'll give you the punchline in 6 months when the client decides what it will be.

bronze axle
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lol

fathom wadi
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Probably my worst mistake. Allowing someone else to make the contracts and not stipulate max changes.

bronze axle
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Btw I totally sympathize with your "guy that only listens to 1980's rock" analogy. I like my web dev very simple.

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I use Ghost for blogs and build static sites for anything else. I have no interest in most of the modern web dev stack, i.e. React, microservices, etc.

fathom wadi
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yeah its major bloat in my mind

bronze axle
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Dude totally.

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I saw a really funny video about this recently.

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Perfectly encapsulates why I stay away from most of that stuff.

primal spoke
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Lots of jargon

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It's funny

bronze axle
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Precisely.

primal spoke
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But react?

fathom wadi
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that sums it up perfectly.

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got to go... the boy child beckons for milk and new diapers. have fun

bronze axle
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o/

plucky pagoda
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Yeah. Adding that to my playlist for when I work.

alpine fern
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micro services is just a very inefficient, distributed monolith

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damn that video started epic but they had to ruin it a little after half way through...

signal citrus
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anyone elses vision completely double when they get out of vr?

spark juniper
idle rivet
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Hmm, seems that theres's nothing wrong, good job!

alpine fern
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print it out on paper so you can burn it

spark juniper
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all right

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wait

idle rivet
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Hmm, there's one mistake

hot ridge
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I can't see any problem, you are lerning well

idle rivet
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There's a delay node missing in the code...

signal citrus
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What do bread reaction mean?

hot ridge
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Oh, @idle rivet is right

spark juniper
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Oh, I tried but it's inside a function I think

signal citrus
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Yum

spark juniper
plucky pagoda
abstract haven
north torrent
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Pie

zinc matrix
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guys so important question, i have problem with opening my files on my PC, I can open them from flash drive but not from my pc, I can crate and save and then open but when I download word file I can't open it, please help me, I get this error every time

zinc matrix
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I fixed it-ty

fathom wadi
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the best way to start the day, a bit of the Lawnmower Deth. When you absolutely, positively, have to do something utterly stupid, accept no substitute !

plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
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I went to a place like that once. Had 3 floors of different levels of rock. The higher up the floors you went, the heavier it got.

plucky pagoda
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Yeah, depending on the night or floor it could be an entirely different place.

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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I worked there and at two other clubs. That place did less volume but I made an insane amount of money in tips.

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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Pancake day sounds like something we could use here.

fathom wadi
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I love pancakes, but I hate frying things in oil. It's a dichotomy that always ends up in me crying into a lemon flavoured plate

plucky pagoda
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That landscape asset this month is no joke. almost 10GB and waiting for it to install

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only getting 2MB down

fathom wadi
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I try keep my vault at 100gb or under. Had to clean it out the other day

plucky pagoda
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I'm going to make another flight sim. Want to try and do it again now that I have a better handle on the physics in the engine.

inland cove
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Is there a channel for putting things up for playtesting in?

plucky pagoda
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WIP,

inland cove
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Alright, thanks!

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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started messing with the physics for it and think I'm going to have to use world streaming and maybe origin shifting, either that or really get creative with scale.

fathom wadi
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dont do that. Just make everything tiny

plucky pagoda
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c'mon man. You've been on a roll with some great music you can't follow Lawnmower Deth with that.

fathom wadi
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๐Ÿ˜„

plucky pagoda
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Yeah that's what I meant by get creative with scale.

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probably a combination of all of that.

fathom wadi
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yeah there is some new streaming tech coming soon right? I mean, I heard rumours because the current system is a bit awkward in multiplayer

plucky pagoda
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I mean I do like Devo though

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I've setup world streaming with multiplayer but not origin shifting. IIRC there's some issues with that and origin shifting doesn't really work the way most people assume it does.

fathom wadi
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yeah it needs factoring in to everything, but most people expect it to just rebase and work

plucky pagoda
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IDk, I've been thinking about my lack of finishing things and I think it's a result of making things that I assume are going to be easy rather than making the kind of things I like to play. So I'm going to try and make some stuff I find fun.

fathom wadi
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but you need to know its been rebased

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I have a dynamic level streaming setup that is kind of cool atm but I know im going to need to do magic for multiplayer so I kind of stopped dev on it until I either a. spend a week or two finetuning and testing it, or b. get the money to pay someone else to do it

plucky pagoda
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b. is always nice.

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78%

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waiting on this to finish to call it a night.

fathom wadi
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I made a new Level Streaming node for purpose btw. There is a function in C++ that isn't latent, but its really useful. so I made it latent as a blueprint node. Whacked it in a plugin for someone. I might stick it in my github for future linking

plucky pagoda
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nice. what's the link to your git?

median wraith
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No leaks at all

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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everything is as it should be

fathom wadi
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gonna fill it with some of my old stuff that I should have shared

plucky pagoda
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yeah, just adding it in case there ever is

fathom wadi
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I wish perforce had something like that. Would be cool

plucky pagoda
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I might just put a bunch of projects that won't compile on mine and give them names like PS4_Emulator

fathom wadi
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oh man that song was so overplayed at the time by my mates.

plucky pagoda
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I think that was true everywhere

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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Yeah, I'll take a look sometime this week or next. I'm thrashed right now. About to have a backdoor, garage door, flooring and way too many other things delivered this weekend

fathom wadi
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heh no worries. I've bored myself into oblivion the past couple of days so im gonna get some work done over the weekend I think.

plucky pagoda
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Yeah, I need to clean out the garage and make room for all this lumber.

plucky pagoda
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HA

fathom wadi
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Conversations before memes were probably way more intellectual, but less fun ๐Ÿ˜„

plucky pagoda
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about halfway done with my list of things to do before thinking about selling this house. The last few things after that I get to pay someone to do though.

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All the penny pinching is starting to pay off.

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Paying someone to do the roof and siding at the least.

fathom wadi
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My house is falling apart. The landlord doesn't get anything fixed and I can't afford it. But we get cheap rent so I dont complain

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been planning to move for years now

plucky pagoda
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We bought a place that had been empty and was a rental property. Even buying it 15k under market I think we over paid.

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But our mortgage is less than what we were paying renting

fathom wadi
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My sister and her husband used to run a company that bought and sold houses that they refurbished. They made enough money to move to the Isle of Mull, which is in the middle of nowhere, and I'm so jealous. It's beautiful

plucky pagoda
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My cousin does that. She won a contract to do a huge number of refurbs for the city of Dayton too.

fathom wadi
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where are you looking to move to if you do?

plucky pagoda
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Ideally probably Montreal but more likely somewhere in Canada or the US that has a lab my wife can work at. Abbot has labs everywhere though and if she gets a transfer they'll pay relocation. Europe's on the table in the longer term too.

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Might be Columbus Ohio near term. Abbott has a bigger plant there.

zinc matrix
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hi

plucky pagoda
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and it's done installing. Going to veg out to some Rick and Morty or something and crash.

fathom wadi
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Montreal would be awesome.

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gl hf ๐Ÿ™‚

plucky pagoda
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I had some friends up there when we first thought about it, but not so much anymore.

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l8r. Have a good one.

median wraith
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I need someone to test a thing and tell me your opinion for this weekend or next week I bet

north torrent
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Can't move to China, they stopped letting LaoWai in.

zinc matrix
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You can now make your own custom textures in substance painter for the game

rose edge
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I am starting to doubt my abilities now. I wrote a loop with an if else statement, and the code executes both paths. : /

rare sparrow
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Hasn't Minecraft had shader mods for a while now which let you use PBR textures? Still awesome to see the ray tracing stuff coming along

lucid walrus
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@fathom wadi are you from Sweden? (Or how did you know about Hobo Humpin Slobo Babe?)

pearl elk
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Minecrasoft

zinc matrix
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Quantum paradox loop @rose edge ?

rose edge
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@zinc matrix Yes, you would think so. It turned out that there was one case that led to the entire preceding code to get skipped. To make it worse, that one case only happened when you had ran it a few times, so whenever I ran through once with the debugger it never happened. Thus, the IF ELSE worked, it just ran through the entire code and hit the IF part, then the state got corrupted and none of the code executed before the IF ELSE, and the default behaviour is that ELSE should run.

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No prints being reached after the first runthrough, thus it SEEMED as if both executed. TL;DR, It was not C++ or my computer that was wrong, it was me all along. As usual. ๐Ÿ˜›

zinc matrix
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@median wraith your memoria seems lost

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shall i help?

soft night
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FInland got new twist with masks

median wraith
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The what

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I ran into a huge problem today, so can't tell when will able to finish this ๐Ÿ˜”

untold shale
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Thank you so much EPIC for including my work in the latest community spotlight, as i'm looking for a graduate position people sharing my work is the nicest thing people can do for me. Honestly so so grateful.

soft night
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@median wraith so you wasnt able to Finnish it?

pearl elk
azure chasm
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Question, anyone else has this issue accessing ue4 docs on mobile ?

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Cant read a damn thing

alpine fern
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yeah it's broken

grand coral
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Guys, be aware if you change the display name in your epic games account, all your progress in unreal academy gonna wipe! I already contacted support, wait for a response.

alpine fern
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that's pretty big brain

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do you get your progress back if you change back your name?

pearl elk
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Better question is can I steal your progress if I steal your name ๐Ÿ˜›

grand coral
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You can't change it back, only after 30 days. Still waiting for a response from support.

carmine frigate
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@untold shale what did u make?

mild root
pearl elk
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none of that matters if you touch the outside of your mask without washing your hands

mild root
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it is just respiratory virus

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not plague

pearl elk
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youre highly likely to transfer it to your mouth if you get it on your hands

mild root
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maybe you are, maybe you are not

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but please don't start this song "I've seen pictures ov covid19, thererfore I am doomed"

pearl elk
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the reason why gloves and masks work for medical professionals has alot to do with the washrooms, nothing passes certain anti-contamination lines

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lol globes

carmine frigate
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the minimum amount of testing here makes the numbers real weird

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25% of all infected are medical staff, and none of em got it from a patient ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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we should just put all the infected on cruise ships and send em back out to see

mild root
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the reason why gloves and masks work for medical professionals has alot to do with the washrooms, nothing passes certain anti-contamination lines
@pearl elk this is the secondary reason. the primary reason is in direct efficiency.

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sure hygiene discipline works and it works well

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however, masks by themselves do the job

pearl elk
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it has more to do with procedure than discipline

carmine frigate
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basically only ppl about to die or docters get tested here ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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even if youre trained with masks and gloves theres no set procedures for contaminants out in the world, cant just have a shower every time you go to the super market as soon as you go in and out

mild root
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infected ones don't spill out virus aerosol everywhere, if they wear masks. non-infected ones don't inhale this aerosol either, if they wear masks

pearl elk
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you might touch your car door handle and steering wheel with gloves and a mask one day, not the next and then you get unlucky boom

mild root
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by insisting on your point of view, you are propagating misinformation

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and panic

pearl elk
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if someone is spitting crap everywhere in the air it'll be all over their hands too

mild root
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"mask don't help why bother wearing them at all"

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this is the consequense

carmine frigate
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only ppl in panic are ppl with their stocks goin down

mild root
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while even breaking up airflow already works

carmine frigate
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panic doesnt last for weeks

pearl elk
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limiting your contact with people works far better than half arsed home made masks

carmine frigate
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panic is only when u cant give a place to what is happening

pearl elk
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if youre wearing a mask because youre infected... wtf you doing out in public

mild root
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limiting your contact with people works far better than half arsed home made masks
@pearl elk I leave my home once per two days for getting some food and my local food store is in 40 seconds of walking, and I have a chance to pass by a dozen of people

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so I choose mask and it is nore than enough in such case

carmine frigate
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look at war torn countries, its total shit there and only get worse, u dont see ppl panic running over the streest there ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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I tend to listen to medical professionals when it comes to these matters spreading bullshit around on the internet doesnt help anyone. All it does is increase noise and makes it more difficult for the right information to get through

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So Im not discussing it further

carmine frigate
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well, when i handled bacteria and crap, i would totally get send home if i didnt wear a mask

mild root
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I am professional biologist and have education in immunology, microbiology, industrial safety and and working with dangerous biomaterials.

let's see facts: people go out and at least you can convince them to wear masks

carmine frigate
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and thats the stuff thats in ur file americain allways

mild root
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So Im not discussing it further
@pearl elk good, I'm tired to explain things to uneducated people

pearl elk
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Im tired of people insulting my intelligence because I like to listen to medical professionals not randos in lounge

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on ya bike

carmine frigate
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yea masks wil help down the spread, this thing isnt goin away even if the infection rate is 0.1 tho

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its here to stay ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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we might get vaccin tho

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poor countries prolly not

mild root
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decreasing infection rate is helpful to keep hospitals not overcrowded

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so every infected one has always enough medical equipment around and treatment, if needed

carmine frigate
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yea this doesnt matter at all in some places cuz there is no medical stuff at all

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like this african lockdown is gunna do no good at all

mild root
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that's another question

zinc matrix
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guys idk it is for this chat or not but someone can send me link or some example how contract should look like for work in studio cus I need to do this but have no idea how to do it, I coudn't find good things in google

carmine frigate
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get a lawyer

mild root
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it depends on country

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some countries allow for anything in a contract

pearl elk
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lol give out unsolicited medical advice... no worries. Legal difficulties laywer

plucky pagoda
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Masks might help reduce the chance someone will spread the virus but it depends on the type of mask. If someone is going out in public while knowing they are contagious they can be charged with a crime just about anywhere in the world.

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N95 respirators with a valve allow non-filtered air to escape on exhalation.

carmine frigate
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well getting cornona is not as bad as getting fuckede by a contract

plucky pagoda
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I guess that depends on if you die or end up with permanent lung and/or heart damage.

carmine frigate
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ill take corona aids and polio over a bad contract

pearl elk
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I sure wish I was educated in these matters ๐Ÿ˜›

plucky pagoda
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There are still a great many unknowns here. A responsible person errs on the side of caution.

pearl elk
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cops are going around checking that people are quarantining here and handing out big fines for those that arnt because people wernt taking it seriously

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I saw an L plater got fined for being too far from home in NSW the other day, like $1200 odd

plucky pagoda
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In the US you can be charged with recklessness during an emergency or terrorism.

pearl elk
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Yeah I saw that lady who coughed on the food got done hard

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Food tampering has always been a pretty hefty crime though, people think its a joke but there are some seriously twisted people out there who properly mess with food.

plucky pagoda
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I could see a case for negligent homicide if someone died

carmine frigate
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yea man, there was some guy puuting needles in strawberries and shit like that

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messed up

pearl elk
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ahh yeah I remember that, everyone was making jokes about finding random stuff in strawberrys

carmine frigate
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thats also done a lot to dogs

plucky pagoda
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In the US this was the start of a lot of those laws :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders

The Chicago Tylenol Murders were a series of poisoning deaths resulting from drug tampering in the Chicago metropolitan area in 1982. The victims had all taken Tylenol-branded acetaminophen capsules that had been laced with potassium cyanide. A total of seven people died in th...

pearl elk
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I do wonder if flu season will be different from now on, if people will more often do the right thing and stay away from the public and their work etc

carmine frigate
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like i understand u dont like em shittin on the sidewalk, but ur mind is way gone if u pull that kind of stuff

pearl elk
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man cyanide, not a good plan, that leaves a heap of trace evidence

carmine frigate
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its also you sabotage the food and send it out, you will never see the hurt u cause

plucky pagoda
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I think they never figured out conclusively who did it.

pearl elk
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1 bottle took out almost a whole family, thats pretty crazy

carmine frigate
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yea its fire and forget, you need to get caught red handed

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also no real motive to the ppl u hurt

pearl elk
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Reminds me abit of that Mel Gibson movie where his daughter was poisoned with radiation, turns out it was in the milk and he'd been drinking it

plucky pagoda
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Today there's better methods to trace the origins of some of those chemicals

pearl elk
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Yeah they track alot of nasty stuff every step of its life

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Alot more permits etc required for certain chemicals than there used to be

carmine frigate
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all you need is a garden

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or some household items

plucky pagoda
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They can look at molecular differences too. Didn't have that kind of stuff back then.

pearl elk
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I tried putting an eletronic detonator in cow poo but it doesnt work ๐Ÿ˜›

plucky pagoda
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lol

carmine frigate
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but its made out of fertilizer

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should work right? ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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I always get sprung to do the chemical test at the airport

plucky pagoda
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I was a stupid kid. We took a pvc tube and fittedd it with a button switch and one of those square flashlight batteries. Used two metal bars for contacts with the ignitor ends and used it to fire home made model rockets like a bazooka. Lucky we didn't maim ourselves.

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Today you'd probably get arrested for that

pearl elk
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lol home made weapons are great fun as kids

carmine frigate
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we used a pvc tube and put em full of those sparcle sticks

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it would smoke like a mofo

pearl elk
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pvc tube, balloon and a ball bearing

opal sable
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hello?

plucky pagoda
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We were messing it with in a parking lot and it went into a cardboard dumpster and set it on fire.

carmine frigate
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lego and an elastic

pearl elk
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kids please dont try this at home, we are trained professionals

opal sable
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hi

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im a new guy

plucky pagoda
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Didn't get in any trouble though. They said it was contained and let it go.

pearl elk
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Hi new guy, Im an old guy ๐Ÿ™‚

opal sable
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lol

fast cobalt
opal sable
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so i need help with somthing

pearl elk
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@fast cobalt lol I stole that and posted it earlier ๐Ÿ˜‰

fast cobalt
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lulz xD

opal sable
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ah guys
i need help

fathom wadi
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@lucid walrus Because I was alive back then and in my rocking youth years. And it was played on MTV constantly.

opal sable
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pls

pearl elk
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@opal sable there are channels for whichever topic you need help with, if its more general try unreal engine channel

tulip orbit
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These guys need help too. professional help ๐Ÿ˜‰

fathom wadi
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TFW when you have to scroll past all the groups that someone posted the same problem in. There was more too, but I couldn't fit them on screen :/

pearl elk
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Why do I need a professional when I have you @tulip orbit

tulip orbit
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I cant help, I just point and laugh

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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My 8 year old just dug out an old scribbler robot I had put away. Guess it's time to introduce her to stamp processors

lucid walrus
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@fathom wadi ah, funny... didn't think anyone outside of Sweden had heard of them.

fathom wadi
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yeah they were one hit wonders

lucid walrus
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not even a real band ๐Ÿ™‚

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two TV personalities and a musician

fast cobalt
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@plucky pagoda watch out! she shouldnt dig into your history xD

fathom wadi
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cool well they will be living nice on the royalties im sure

plucky pagoda
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Nothing that bad.

pearl elk
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arnt we all glad many of us are old enough to not have a digital copy of all our less than savoury exploits ๐Ÿ˜›

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grandparents in 2100, remember that time back in 2014 when you did X... No I didnt... link

plucky pagoda
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Yeah, right to forget laws are a great idea but hard to see how it all works out.

pearl elk
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Yeah some statute of limitations kinda suck, lets people get away with it if it gets strung out long enough

fathom wadi
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So UPLAY send me this... but last time I used it, I played for two weeks acquiring progress amongst a bunch of games. Then they refused my payment and cancelled my account. So I tried to pay it again, but they wouldn't take my money. Now they want me to try it again? Fucking jokers can't even make decent gameplay. All style, no substance.

pearl elk
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Be annoying though, cops knock on your door in 2080, remember that time you committed copyright infringement in 2012... yup to the slammer

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I think you should email them @fathom wadi tell them you have Corona and dunno how long you have so you'd like a free trial

fathom wadi
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I just buy the games individually now. Although I regret it when I do

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UPLAY is just Assassin Creed simulator practically. There's like 17 games or something all tied to it. And I never liked any of them

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They just ruined The Division 2 as well, which annoyed me personally because they made the worst game dev decisions I've seen since Destiny removed the storyline they promoted it with.

pearl elk
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I read that as Assassin Card Simulator for a sec lol

fathom wadi
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Saying that.... Ubisoft make beautiful environments.

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well the artists do anyway

pearl elk
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Youre right though theres no real hidden meaning or layer of meta to discover

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All their games are very flat and 1 dimensional

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For Honor had alot of potential, theres some cool themes and dialog but they didnt flesh out the lore enough, to really explore the message they wanted to get across

fathom wadi
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I wanted to play For Honor but they spelled it wrong, and my honour cannot take that kind of insult.

pearl elk
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It feels like they had this cool fighting game then someone from the publisher arm came in with an arcade paintbrush and just hit random things with it before pushing it out the door

fathom wadi
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seriously tho.... 100gb of download for what I know will be utter crap after 5 minutes.

pearl elk
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lol it is pretty repetitive but the story is actually decent

plucky pagoda
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Wow, turned right on with what have to be 10 year old batteries and ran the program I made back then.

fathom wadi
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I shall download a 100gb book then mons :p

plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
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damn I think I woke up in a critical mood.

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it's times like this I wish I was in an office with fleebs I could project onto and still get paid.

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๐Ÿ™‚ Time for a breather

median wraith
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wait whats is that ?

tulip orbit
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I wonder how bad EA is gonna fuck up the C&C remaster

fathom wadi
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why do these people exist?

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the funniest part is, he told me off for showing his email.... dude.... you posted it for every crawler to see. Enjoy your new Russian friends ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
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Damn this server is a Battlefield

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If I see one more person saying "can anyone help me" then I'm gonna ... then I'm going to...

fathom wadi
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it is a server for getting help tho.

zinc matrix
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Yea but posting no information at all ... damn

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Then it's like their question is not worth being answered ._.

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โ†‘ wow that sounds cold

fathom wadi
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yeah its vague ๐Ÿ˜„

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also true. I never ask for help and if I do, it's because there is absolutely zero google-able info

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
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I might have to buy a newer one of these. I can't find any software that will work with it other than pbasic text editors. I was hoping there was a gui tile editor I could let my 8yr use.

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I guess it wouldn't be too hard to just make one.

mossy nexus
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Why doesn't a 'google it' emoji exist? ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
fathom wadi
mossy nexus
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If there is something I know can be done, but don't know the termanology I'll ask to be pointed in the right direction, so I can search for myself.

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Karma Marc, that's called Karma. lol

sage tendon
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@mossy nexus why googlw when you can get free 1on1 support here? ๐Ÿ˜…

fathom wadi
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not that I wish death on anyone, but his victims may have killed themselves or felt like they were in a state of living death. So yeah, no sympathy

mossy nexus
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Depending on the question or who is asking, I'll share a google search usually with their exact question.

sage tendon
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Best is to give short awnsers, youll quickly see what kind of wood the person is made of

plucky pagoda
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A lot of the time I just give someone the term they should be looking for

fathom wadi
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I have a rule. "Always presume someone knows something you do not" and with that in mind, if someone needs help I try give it to them. Even if that is by saying "a quick google should fix this issue". But remember, at some point you won't find an answer and do you want the person who can help you to say "google it"? It always comes across as some kind of insult. Best to say you dont know, or answer them.

sage tendon
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Thats true, it can help a lot to give a proper link

mossy nexus
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If I was feel really sarcastic, I guess I should screen record me actually highlighting their message and r/clicking then picking "search google for..." and share that.. ๐Ÿ˜„

sage tendon
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In my case, im autodidact, so if I remember where i found something, i just share that source

fathom wadi
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Something I found out, is that saying "google it" isn't always the best answer. Because Google doesn't give the same results to different people around the world. It's tailored, and in some places, censored.

sage tendon
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Its easy to forget the algoritm bubble

mossy nexus
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DuckDuckGo it just doesn't have the same ring to it though

sage tendon
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Actually it kind of does

plucky pagoda
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I tend to do the same I almost never respond with "google it" but we all know being able to find answers on your own is probably at the top of the list of needed skills

sage tendon
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Duckduckgo ๐Ÿค”

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Imagine someone opening Bing when you tell them to google it ๐Ÿ˜„

plucky pagoda
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I try to assume people can figure things out if you point them in the right direction when they still insist on being spoon fed to a ridiculous degree I say "good luck" which is my way of saying F off.

sage tendon
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If you end up telling them to google it, then imho, dont awnser at all.. it wastes the time of both :d

fathom wadi
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We all have to google it sometimes. Imagine what it was like for us old timers who still had to use Altavista or Yahoo search.

sage tendon
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There is a name i havent heard in a long time

plucky pagoda
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metacrawler

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it still works too

fathom wadi
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dogpile turned up around the time google got popular too.

plucky pagoda
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anyone else start with gopher menus?

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In the greenscreen node days?

fathom wadi
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I used an Amstrad PCW9512 greenscreen at school. But I kept messing with it and they banned me from choosing IT as a subject. Which is ironic to say the least.

plucky pagoda
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Me and a friend of mine were the only ones who understood it when they started adding it at the Highschool. They pretty much let us skip classes all day to show the staff how to use it.

fathom wadi
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When I left school I went to a youth employment scheme. The lady who ran it had no clue and was just there for show mostly. She kept telling people she had a degree. Later found out the degree was in floristry. So she noticed I was good with computers and had me do all her work for her. Excel, word processing etc. It got me out of the lamebrain work they gave us though so it was all good.

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True story, the other lady who worked with us was Helen Baxendale's (british actress) mother. She hated me at first, but we went on a drive together and she realised I was actually not a bellend. Then later that week she brought in a collection of old records as a gift to me.

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I seem to get that whole "hate me at first" thing a lot :p

plucky pagoda
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Pretty much the same. They left me alone in school for the most part. I got accused of cheating on a bunch of tests and was forced to retake them all and then was put into all honors classes overnight. I withdrew not too long after that.

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Public school was like that for me though from the start. I got accused of cheating on things as early as the third grade. I hated all teachers after that.

fathom wadi
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I retook my maths qualifications because I had a troubled life at school. So I was grinding away but had an issue figuring out a couple of issues. The math tutor was getting angry with me. So he went off to get a coffee or have a tug or something, I dunno, but whilst he was gone it finally clicked. So I moved onto algebra and trigonometry. But I had been using it for years already so was fluent. He came back and said "The next bit is tough, so if you need any help let me know". I said "I finished that bit already" and he looked like a sitcom cliche. It was one of the satisfying moments of my life ๐Ÿ˜„

plucky pagoda
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I wish I had known about ADHD back then. I skated through school without doing any work. I would just show up for the tests and score high enough to pass classes.

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If I had known about ADHD I probably wouldn't have blown off so many opportunities.

fathom wadi
#

if I was more of a manwhore, I'd have blown myself into some opportunities.

plucky pagoda
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LOL. Had a few of those kind of offers myself. I mean I worked at a bar that had drag shows twice a week. Not my thing though.

fathom wadi
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heh I had a friend who works in a bar that was exclusively drag. He said the best bj he got was from a guy. I think he was trying to shock us but we thought he was gay anyway.

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he was a strange dude. Eventually let drugs to get to him and went a bit doo-lally.

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We have an amazing drag bar here. Our town was one of the first in the country to fully embrace gay culture.

plucky pagoda
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We might be pushing the boundaries of the room.

fathom wadi
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yeah probably my bad. I just keep it real and dont think before I speak sometimes

plucky pagoda
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Yeah the shows were amazing.

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The nightclubs in dayton were kind of like a fraternity in the 90s and early 2000's. Celebrities was one club that was huge for a while.

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But if you worked at one the other clubs would treat you different. Everyone knew each other and would trade shifts between the clubs.

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A lot of the places liked having straight bartenders.

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For me being in my twenties and making a couple of hundred an hour in tips was the best thing I could imagine.

fathom wadi
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hell yeah. I couldn't handle it myself. Drunk people annoy me.

plucky pagoda
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I'm working on a physics flyer but I'm going to get it working before looking at how anyone else has done it. So far it's getting there but I need to get the nose forces a little smoother.

real palm
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Sounds like drag is still involved in the conversation, not that I'm complaining

fathom wadi
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how are you doing the physics? manual or component?

plucky pagoda
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Using a root collision

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I should probably look at those physics components huh

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Just noticed there's a thruster

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yeah, I've just been manually adding forces

fathom wadi
#

speaking of working forces.

fathom wadi
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damn Don Cheadle retweeted me. That makes up for him making me cry ยฌ_ยฌ

pearl elk
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lol wtf

fathom wadi
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@pearl elk ever watch Hotel Rwanda? Brutal movie. I can count the number of movies that made me cry on one hand, and that probably made me blub the most.

pearl elk
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Yeah its a really good one

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Im a softly, theres about 20 I know of which get me every time

fathom wadi
#

John Woo made one of my fave movies called "Bullet in the head". That makes me weep at the end. Such a wonderful story. Movie looks a little dated by today's standards but the story is important and the acting is great.

pearl elk
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Have you ever seen Cyborg? I cried all the way through that one ๐Ÿ˜›

plucky pagoda
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Oh man got it into a fun state. I need to tamp down the yaw control a little bit though

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Probably tie it to velocity

fathom wadi
median wraith
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Oh well

pearl elk
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is the whole video janky or is it just me?

median wraith
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Oh finally the voxel gi epic!

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Oh wait that isn't ue4

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๐Ÿ™ˆ

pearl elk
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yeah if it were UE4 the framerate would be better ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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yeah its got frame skipping on that vid

pearl elk
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Not too shabby in all honesty though, lots of competition in the engine market and thats not even counting proprietary tech

plucky pagoda
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Did you look at the edition comparison though. Most of those features are not in the pro version.

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You have to pay for the 6k version

pearl elk
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If iD does mod tools for Doom Eternal its all over ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
#

damn there goes my idea for a slot machine that nukes you if you lose

pearl elk
#

there goes my idea of making a game about fart simulation

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
#

Yeah 150/month for a severely feature limited version seems pretty steep

lucid walrus
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we chose Unreal over Unigine at work, but perhaps I'll look into it again now... the results are crazy impressive out of the box in that engine!

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will be interesting to see if it doesn't crap the bed with transparency in VR like Unreal does...

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also, to finally get AO in VR

plucky pagoda
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I can see a market for it but I don't think it's going to be the same market as where most of Unity and UE's users come from.

fathom wadi
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holy moly I presumed that was 150 for the year, paid monthly / 12

plucky pagoda
#

At least not with the community and pro being so severely hobbled

median wraith
#

Mobile ready

fathom wadi
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@lucid walrus there is AO in VR with UE. #acronymhell

pearl elk
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ahh no landscape tools

lucid walrus
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@fathom wadi not in forward there isn't

fathom wadi
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yes there is

pearl elk
#

wtf is a TeslaSuit

plucky pagoda
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Yeah, pretty much everything you would want is behind a 6k pay wall

lucid walrus
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no if you value your eye sight, no

fathom wadi
#

I was reading about it the other day because I expected there not to be as its screenspace, but they made it work

lucid walrus
#

the AO solution in Unreal is from 1995 and doesn't even have built-in blurring

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it looks like utter shit in forward

median wraith
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No SSAO at all with forward Shading its broken

lucid walrus
#

so no, effectively, there isn't an AO solution in VR with Unreal

pearl elk
#

oh right I remember this, company using Telsa in the name not related to Elon

median wraith
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Plus without taa looks bad

lucid walrus
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(compare that with Unity which has like a dozen AO solutions to choose from, even before their scriptable render pipeline, grumble, grumble)

fathom wadi
#

what about DFAO in VR? I've seen that used before

lucid walrus
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glitchy as hell unless you optimize the crap out of your geometry, and we're in product visualization, ie datasmith imported CAD models, so that's a no-go unfortunately

fathom wadi
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then we should task Hevedy to fix the issue

lucid walrus
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this is what we used in Unity in VR before we switched... it was so beautiful ๐Ÿ˜ญ

pearl elk
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lol ground truth AO

fathom wadi
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Just steal that one and use it in UE :p

pearl elk
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If they call you out just say no one owns the ground truth ๐Ÿ™‚

median wraith
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That one it's the new ue4 SSAO actually

lucid walrus
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what, Epic hired the Amplify guys? ๐Ÿ™‚

dusky shuttle
lucid walrus
fathom wadi
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That's the software equivalent of aspergers ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
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@lucid walrus no, both are based in adoc from call of duty

fathom wadi
#

How bad is this now... holy moly. Last time it was this bad, the Federal Reserve had to be created.

median wraith
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Oh welcome

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That happened here at our scale

pearl elk
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only 8mil more and its the entire population of Australia ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
#

hmm I just noticed the shares there. BioAnal Sys is probably something I wouldn't want to invest in.

median wraith
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BioAnal, what the hell is that vegan dream?

lucid walrus
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@median wraith ok, so where can I read about this new ao in unreal?

median wraith
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Idk someone talk about it, but sure isn't for VR and forward

lucid walrus
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sigh

median wraith
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On 4.25 or 4. 26

lucid walrus
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great thinking there, Epic... ๐Ÿ™„

median wraith
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Well easy

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Move your vr game to deferred

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๐Ÿ™ˆ

fathom wadi
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you cant

lucid walrus
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fuck no... blurry mess! ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
#

performance is utter trash

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if John Carmack says use Forward for VR, im using Forward for VR

lucid walrus
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rather move back to Unity ๐Ÿ˜›

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or this Unigine that I'm now going to try

alpine fern
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using Terrible Anti Aliasing in vr would be interesting for sure

median wraith
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Anyway, you can do your own solution

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In other than don't think SSAO looks pretty good at VR

fathom wadi
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You should do it Hev. I believe in you !

median wraith
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If you know how to make a proper light setup font need ssao

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Plus usually all its baked

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Don't see myself doing anything of that really

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Port the ibls it's an option

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But don't think these work

fathom wadi
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the world needs you

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VR needs you

median wraith
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And I need food

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๐Ÿ˜น

fathom wadi
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If you solve the VR AO issue, Epic might feed you.

lucid walrus
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don't count on that... they're not even feeding the blender datasmith plug-in developer

fathom wadi
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well they work at Epic so technically they are

median wraith
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๐Ÿ˜‚

lucid walrus
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not unless he got hired within the last week or so

fathom wadi
#

wait... who are you talking about?

median wraith
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We are talking of the same plug in?

lucid walrus
fathom wadi
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ahh right I thought you meant the other one

lucid walrus
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the one on their streams? that relies on fbx under the hood?

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yeah, that one... sounds great...

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(sorry for being negative nancy today)

fathom wadi
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its ok I woke up in a horrid mood today

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we are only human

lucid walrus
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(I'm angry with UMG and taking it out on Discord it seems) ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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sup, maybe I can help

median wraith
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Don't worry people says I'm negative the whole year, except my bday, good thing I got many per year

lucid walrus
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it's death by a thousand paper cuts... no non-hacky way of disabling the mouse... no non-hacky way of gamepad focus... no non-hacky way of detecing last used input device

fathom wadi
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I wrote my own focus manager for switching between gamepad, keyboard and HOTAS controls for UMG, but there was some stuff added since then that makes my system old hat. I should revise it if people are still having issues

sage ermine
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Doc said I tested negative, pretty happy about that ๐Ÿ™‚

lucid walrus
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yeah, the solution seems to never switch input modes and just writing everything yourself, which seems very hacky ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fathom wadi
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check out FNavigationConfig and you can write a custom navigation ruleset for now .Should work

median wraith
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The plug in you made for context windows its really need or epic provide any other solution for?

fathom wadi
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depends if its platform independent or not. You can use the windows stuff directly if its only on windows. There is probably other solutions for cross-compatibility though. Like Slate Windows

real palm
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I always replace input mode and mouse cursor with my own construct in most personal projects

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never tried doing the device detection though

lucid walrus
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well, screw it... I'm using my UDN access to pester Epic staff about this ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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it never used to be good at all but around the time RawInput was added, you could get the hardware ID's and check against that

median wraith
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Controller things are something I have to look into

fathom wadi
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its been a while since I touched UMG. got so bored of it after a while.

pearl elk
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who said that?

fathom wadi
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I like racing games where I walk. I also like third person games with no arse so I'm not tempted to objectify my character.

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I swear I could write for them and it would all be satire, and nobody would know

pearl elk
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Its funny how people who are so against these stereotypes tend to fall right into one themselves

fathom wadi
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we are all stereotypes. I embrace mine as it doesn't hurt anyone. I am the irrevocable jester, the puller of legs, the cynical sinner.

pearl elk
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I dont see why there cant be some power fantasys in RPGs, purposefully removing those or being against them isnt really doing you any favours unless you want to target a specific audience. Which is fine but dont act like youre doing it for the art or the morality

fathom wadi
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If video games are not an escape from reality, then I'm not sure what they are. Because I have never gone into a game and objectified 2b from Nier Automata at all..... mmmmm... I mean.... I'm a legit cuck and don't think such things.

pearl elk
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Arnie was the big strong musclar guy for the longest time yet his roles span the gamut

fathom wadi
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when I was a kid, a page-3 model (topless model in UK newspapers) was on the cover of the game Barbarian. And the only outrage was about the fact you could cut a head off in game. It was fine to see a busty lady in a game.

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Somewhere, it became taboo. I don't get it. Sex sells. Fake violence sells. Put them together and you get more sales.

pearl elk
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I dont like RPG heros who are like, "Im the arty academic type and Im going to criticise what I dont like", I like something alittle more realistic ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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My wife told me something rather interesting. She has played Farcry 5 more than any other person on this planet, I would bet my kids on it, and she said they made him to tweak the gourd of women who like that power trip. Where is the hate for that ?

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talking about the protagonist of course

pearl elk
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One thing that I really appreciate about the new Doom is they realize its a mass market game, they didnt try to hamstring it by conforming to the most niche sector of the audience

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Indies sometimes dont get it, that being mainstream isnt bad or less artistic or somehow contributing less to the evolution of gaming as a whole. You can make great games and get them to a wide audience, if you concentrate on small market sectors then complain about things like indiepocalypses I think its time for a mirror check

fathom wadi
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I guess you are right with the niche thing. It's certainly not my niche. Im from another time I guess. Archaic perhaps, but more fun than a jaunty ride on the cuck train.

pearl elk
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sometimes it feels like they want to push you out of a sector you were previously welcome in which is more the attitude of one of those "Im a muscle guy" jock types than nerds tbh

fathom wadi
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yeah. Like being given a golden handshake covered in chocolate pretzel smears

pearl elk
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Im totally cool with a game not having a butt pose but if youre gonna complain about me doing it in a game while millions of women exploit it on instagram yeah, that aint on.

fathom wadi
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targeted abuse by any other name really. Often disrespectful to the freedom of choice of people too.

pearl elk
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imagine mythology without the muscle guys, not a whole lot left after you remove them hehe

fathom wadi
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there wouldn't be mythology without the muscle guys. There wouldn't be anyone.

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funny how evolution set the strongest up to protect the weak

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now the weak just setup the strongest to fail

pearl elk
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Look at a character like Samson though, he's about more than just oily moobs

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infact most of em are so yeah I dunno, if Im a muscle guy frontloads the players learning of a player class, why the hell not

fathom wadi
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I blame Revenge of the Nerds. Giving people aspirations above their station ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
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does this show the bit in the film where they plant cameras in the girls dorms? ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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no but I remember it being creepy as hell ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
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least theres no nerd girl with glasses who is super model hot when she takes em off in that film lol

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I really like Stephen Kings characters, I dunno how he does it oh and Spielberg man his dialog is stellar but he doesnt write much anymore

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Mind you nowadays The Goonies is bad cuz of fat shaming or somethin lol, just great mass appeal from both of em, they use tropes but also make real down to earth characters

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The bit in Stand By Me when the narrator is telling the story of his younger self telling a story to his friends as a narrator, so fucking meta!

fathom wadi
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King, by his own admission, was a twisted youth. You can see why when he has those characters, like Kiefer Sutherland in SBM, that turn up in half his stories. Christine, Carrie etc.

pearl elk
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Yeah the bully is a pretty big theme across Kings work, its done subtle though its usually a side character not the main theme. Like in Green Mile with Wild Bill

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Percy gets totally screwed but its full circle and resolves all the characters perfectly

fathom wadi
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Horror games are my kryptonite. I get so immersed when I play a game it's hard not to actually shit myself

pearl elk
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Adult diapers people ๐Ÿ™‚

fathom wadi
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I blame DooM 3. Before then I loved horror games. But that one in particular got to me.

pearl elk
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I played Soma and Outlast, the latter was more scary to me. I dunno though running and hiding in lockers got old to me

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yeah it had abit of b-grade horror vibe which worked

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if you make it too classy it just doesnt work

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thats why I love Jaws though its just so raw, man a game like that would freak me out. Ive played games with sharks in em but nothing that attempts to antagonize you with it

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Jaws VR, fffff... that

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gonna need some bigger undies

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barely see the shark aye but few times you do its just gulp cuz they spend so much time building it up

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Hitchcock used to do the same thing and Kubrick

fathom wadi
pearl elk
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by the time you see the cross dressing in Psycho its like what the... if they just straight up did it, itd be like meh

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Show me the way to go home, Im tired and I wanna go to bed

fathom wadi
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Robert Shaw was awesome

pearl elk
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Richard Dreyfuss is pretty underrated too, Jaws, Stand By Me, Close Encounters, he's in American Graffiti too

fathom wadi
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aye

pearl elk
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He's actually in Piranha 3D as Matt Hooper

fathom wadi
#

Robert Shaw in The Sting was an epic performance too

pearl elk
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I like his monologue in the town meeting too, just so on point

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yeah sometimes you dont want to know ๐Ÿ™‚

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I think thats abit of a gotcha some writers do is they give up too much information about the character but people dont do that, they give up pieces of themselves in dribs and drabs. Saving Private Ryan for instance no one knows what Tom Hanks character did before the war

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Eventually you find out and it makes that whole section of dialogue worthwhile not boring because youre finally getting what you been waiting for. I think Quentin Tarantino falls in that trap sometimes, his characters sometimes let too much go in monologues rather than playing their cards closer to their chest

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Reservoir Dogs is bit better like that and Pulp Fiction but by Django theyre just spillin the beans left and right

fathom wadi
#

It was amazing if you get the references, but it was a love song to a dozen movies

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The only Tarantino movie I thought was bad, won a freaking oscar. (Once upon a time in Hollywood).

pearl elk
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lol, havent seen that one yet. Its on Foxtel so I'll see it soon enough

fathom wadi
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And Joe Pesci not getting that oscar was a crime against acting.

pearl elk
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Its a short man thing, they never win awards

fathom wadi
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He absolutely killed it in The Irishman tho.

pearl elk
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tbh Pesci is rarely off point, maybe Lethal Weapon was too much

sage tendon
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@pearl elk wasnt Tom Hanks a teacher before the war in Private Ryan?

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Nvm i should reaf more before responding

pearl elk
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all good ๐Ÿ™‚ nice to know people remember the movie since its getting on abit now

fathom wadi
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@zinc matrix yeah there were some parts I thought were too in your face about references. Some others I thought were awesome. And he ripped off more than he created in it. Overall it's probably too slow a movie over the two parts. Could have done it in one.

sage tendon
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@pearl elk mostly because it was a good payload ๐Ÿ˜…

fathom wadi
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Shaving Ryan's Privates? Yeah its in my DVD collection

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I keep meaning to watch 1917 but war movies depress the hell out of me.

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I studied them for so long, but eventually it tired me out.

pearl elk
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Ive heard 1917 is better than Irishman

fathom wadi
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now I have to watch it

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Irishman was good, well worth the wait, but its not the best movie in the world. Just a great one

pearl elk
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I suppose it depends on what youre in the mood for, sometimes a movie just hits the spot

fathom wadi
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Im currently rewatching The Sopranos for the 4th or 5th time.

pearl elk
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Im watching Westworld S3 and Devs mostly

sage tendon
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Imho Irishman is overrated due to the CGI hype (which isn't (again imo) thรกt good)

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1917 is already a blast to watch just to find the hidden cuts

fathom wadi
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isn't that good? It's freaking amazing

sage tendon
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the tech behind it maybe, but it looks like Jurrasic Park 3 graphics

pearl elk
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lol if you seen Aquaman that sets the bar pretty low for deaging software ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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yeah

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Superman's top lip too

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which is actually laggy

pearl elk
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they actually did it in Avengers and no one cared

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they do a flashback of Tony Stark in Civil War

fathom wadi
#

it was done in The Hobbit too i believe

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Legolas had to be modified

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and some of the CG in that movie sucks by today's standard. But it was epic then

pearl elk
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ahh yeah cuz he's younger but older

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seriously though Legolas has a built in selfie bloom, they just needed to crank that up

fathom wadi
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I still appreciate the Doctor that Donald Sutherland played in Final Fantasy The Spirits Within. That was some nice CG for the time.

pearl elk
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yeah his acting comes through in the character

fathom wadi
pearl elk
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sometimes I wonder why they bother with live action in some movies, like Alita for instance its abit wtf why, even Avatar

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I guess they just need to pick where the resources go, more CG in Alita might mean a worse main character

fathom wadi
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Avatar was a huge disappointment to me. I expected a Cameron movie, and got one, but not the one I expected. It was terrible except for maybe 2 scenes.

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how he even managed to swing a trilogy is beyond me

pearl elk
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lol well we havent seen anything of a second film yet, last I heard he was bouncing from thing to thing

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How they let a Blomkamp Alien and Robocop fall through the cracks I dunno

fathom wadi
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yeah i'd have watched both. However Im not a movie snob about the Prometheus time period movies nor the Robocop remake. I liked them

pearl elk
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I think they shoulda named Robocop appropriately, he didnt have to be Alex Murphy he coulda been another character

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Prometheus has some okay stuff, I love the blood and the new aliens, Aliens Covenant I actually like in some ways abit more just no the flute tardery

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In my eyes Life is actually closer to an Alien origin story tbh

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the "Murphy its you" scene is just so prominent its hard to imagine without Lewis

fathom wadi
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I started a prototype for a VR game that spoofed movies like Robocop and other 80's sci-fi classic. I got the general gameplay down, and put it in storage until I had money. The money never came though. It was gonna be awesome imo.

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I had a bit similar to the new Robocop scene where he sees himself for the first time, but instead of the "lose the arm" scene, I had a "save the testicle" scene so he had one bollock hanging down. I wasn't sure if to use it but it was that kind of stupid humour.

pearl elk
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Have you seen AD Police Files? The 3rd they save only his tongue and he bites it to remind him of his humanity

fathom wadi
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nope heard of it tho

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I tend to miss a lot of anime as its not my goto choice. But I don't mind it. Ghibli stuff in particular always astounds me in it's storytelling. Like the way Final Fantasy can do. Just a random story but hooks you every step of the way

pearl elk
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Yeah I dont watch alot of it, just the odd bits here and there, I think the last one I watched was Tokyo Ghoul

fathom wadi
deep glen
fathom wadi
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You know what would be really cool? The ability to embed html files into the graph so you can edit them without opening the project and use images to show things you don't want to draw out with nodes.

deep glen
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true

pearl elk
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so a draw material in material graph node

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I think they have one of those, well texture2d hehe just need to be able to scale it up

fathom wadi
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Perhaps having some kind of group for nodes that are for pure documentation purposes.

pearl elk
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doc node node docs

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docodes

deep glen
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doc node i'd probably like more than using the comment nodes.

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especially if you could click on hyperlinks.

fathom wadi
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Grease Pencil for Graphs.

deep glen
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Though... that might cause security issues if used wrong?

fathom wadi
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its an open source engine, to be honest you gamble everytime you open a mystery project ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
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they arnt really comments anyways, more like groups maybe groups and comments need to be separated so you can put the bubble anywhere

fathom wadi
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Who wants to bet me I can make a cross-infection routine for blueprints? ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
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@fathom wadi Reminds me a joke...
Two guys are talking on the street during pandemic. Two cops see this and intervenes:
Cops: Gatherings of more than 2 people are not allowed.
Guys: But there are only 2 of us.
Cops: But with us it's 4.

deep glen
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*redacted

zinc matrix
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*fixed

sage ermine
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what's that phrase they use to describe when you are always learning new stuff for your job?

deep glen
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frustrated

pearl elk
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under paid

zinc matrix
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caching

fathom wadi
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a teacher

fathom wadi
real palm
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@deep glen @fathom wadi So there actually is a way to have rich instructional content on how to use whatever you're putting together in UE4

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You can embed images and stuff too

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It's asinine to use though.

north torrent
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Today seems like a good game design day.

fathom wadi
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Hope so. I've not done anything for 2 weeks except help other people

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could use some closure on a couple of bits of work

tulip orbit
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I napped most of the day ๐Ÿ˜„

north torrent
fathom wadi
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is it about Trump?

north torrent
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No, it is about an actual donkey.

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I was looking at the different guitars available.

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I think I have enough toys to play with though.

fathom wadi
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I heard my daughter play guitar and sing today for the first time. She was pretty good

north torrent
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I wrote a store about a guy who got delivered a note that his daughter had been kidnaped.

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The odd thing was, he didn't have a daughter.

fathom wadi
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I once wrote a song about my girlfriend being a controlling bitch. She didn't like it. Job done.

north torrent
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I actually want to make that story into a game later on.

fathom wadi
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why did you know my gf?

north torrent
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It ends up being mostly about gentrification.

fathom wadi
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I've never wanted to be a statue.

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no wait thats petrification

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as my jokes get stupid, my realisation that I need to go to bed ensues. So with that, I tip my virtual hat and bid yee farewell. FOR NOW !!! muahahahah

north torrent
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It is pizza time for me.

north torrent
#

They have Teenage Mutant Ninja Tortoise knockoff toys in China.

crimson mauve
north torrent
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Contact a mod.

zinc matrix
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A game where you're in a daycare and have to escape a evil babysitter, could that have potential?

bronze axle
real palm
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ngl

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I'd be down

bronze axle
spare glade
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And use those travelators to get a speed boost ๐Ÿ˜›

signal citrus
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last one is definitely indie indie

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its like Electronic Arts Indie

bronze axle
#

I can imagine that being like, a Bennet Foddie game.

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Terminal Joggers.

signal citrus
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No sprint button, just multiple inputs mapped to silent reflection and drifting mind

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Winner gets to express how nice it is to win for 20 seconds

bronze axle
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lol

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Ship it.

pearl elk
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Are they running away from corona virus?

signal citrus
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jogging*

sage ermine
pearl elk
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there could be travellators which slow you down or give you a speed boost

fluid bloom
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I wonder how long it's going to take for google to release google assistant in Finland

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google car/driving app/whatever doesn't work either because it relies on google assistant

deep glen
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@real palm the ue4 tutorial system shizzle?

dense storm
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sometimes ue4 pull request system is weird..

median wraith
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because they set on new feature ?

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I read that one you upload the other day actually xd

dense storm
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and its been there 24 days

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and tbh that function should have been exposed to BP since day 1

median wraith
dense storm
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everyone i spoke to has made a BP version of it ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
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Infinite file changes

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well tbh I made a single function PR years ago and they took a whole year to check it

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xd

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there are complete core files that follows a different formating system of Epic recommended

dense storm
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yeah

median wraith
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made one change time ago and they denegated it as the formatting, I named the formatting was wrong on the whole file, and they said was about change the file, that was 4 years ago, the file still the same

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๐Ÿค–

dense storm
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is there a way to see my past PR's

median wraith
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search by your name on github

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in the PR list

dense storm
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i did

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but i only see my latest

median wraith
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other than that no clue tbh

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it spot the closed ones ?

dense storm
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ah got it

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they fixed it pretty quickly tho

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๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
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oh but here is a const, the guy that checked the UFUNCTION dont know what that black magic its yet

dense storm
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think my task manager is broken..

median wraith
#

xd

dense storm
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๐Ÿ˜„

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this page works..

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might need a restart

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hmm 14mins, why is it getting slower ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

median wraith
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14min slower

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lol

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mine takes 1:30min

dense storm
#

and hour and 30mins?

median wraith
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yeah

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in the ssd

dense storm
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what you building?

median wraith
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thr whole engine and plugins

dense storm
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i didn't do build solution

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i just built the UE4 project

median wraith
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pretty big project for 3600 then ?

dense storm
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i really like resharper tho

median wraith
#

resharper more than the tomato ?

dense storm
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i think it built the plugins aswell

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Rider is so much better than VS tho

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why tease us with Anim Distance Matching plugin

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when it doesnt have nothing

median wraith
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these tools are expensive man

dense storm
#

resharper lists all stuff like this

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so you don't have to folder hop like VS

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i mean Rider C++

median wraith
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thats pretty cool

fluid bloom
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rider c++?

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the standalone C++ game dev IDE?

ancient ingot
#

this lockdown fucking sucks ๐Ÿ˜ก

fathom wadi
#

aye

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@ancient ingot could be worse. Could be a talentless mook with nothing to do much surf social media this entire time. At least you have a way to absorb yourself into the magic world of gamedev ๐Ÿ˜„

raw rose
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Surfing social media the whole time would be boring since nothing is happening

fathom wadi
#

its all stress and worry atm. Kind of worrying when you consider the complete social mental health implications.

raw rose
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One day at a time

tulip orbit
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could be worse. Could be a talentless mook with
@fathom wadi Is that a jab at me?

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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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speaking of tortilla chips, I bought supplies for nachos, but forgot to get cheese ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

raw rose
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Just by hanging out in this discord means you've got talent <3

tulip orbit
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for hanging out in discord ๐Ÿ˜„

fathom wadi
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@tulip orbit lol yeah. goddamn mook ! I actually meant the other mooks :p

zinc matrix
fathom wadi
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I dont count discord as social media btw. Dunno why I make that distinction. But I meant FB, Twitter, Insta, etc

zinc matrix
raw rose
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Probably because of the voice and video chat

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Or because discord is entirely chat based

fathom wadi
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yeah I've been on some kind of chat like this since ICQ days. IRC was the longest one I used but Discord will take over that

raw rose
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I completely skipped team speak. It just felt janky to me

fathom wadi
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yeah it was laggy as a syphilated piss too. Ventrilo was always better

raw rose
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I've only heard about ventrilo as suggestions on random websites

rose edge
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I have a series of vectors that indicate points of interest throughout space. What is the best way to programmatically in BP generate lines or pipes or lasers that indicate the set pattern?

fathom wadi
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you already have them.

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so you have vectors and want to draw between them?

rose edge
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Sorry, I posted by accident.

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Yes, in the game there are points of interest that the player puts down and they create a network that I want to visualize using these lines to help the player see what they are doing.

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Let us say that I have 4, A, B, C and D, and I place them in a square where each only has a connection to the next, with D pointing to A, then the result should be drawing a square.

fathom wadi
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first you take an array of the vector locations. Then you sort it from nearest to furthest in order. Then you have options. You could take the built in cylinder, scale it, then set the forward vector to the direction between point 0 and point 1. Then scale it along the normal direction. Rinse, repeat for the rest of the array

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or something like that... like I say, you have options. You could come up with a better system

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could even go screenspace and shader based

rose edge
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These networks can become big with up to around a thousand points. Wouldnt cylinders be heavy?

fathom wadi
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no

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first its an engine shape, second its not about the shape or mesh at all, but more about the material you use.

rose edge
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Ok, I will try that then. Thanks.

fathom wadi
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you could construct it in a way where it merges and make it one mesh with one material by the end product.

rose edge
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You can programmatically generate meshes? Nice

fathom wadi
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there is procedural meshes yeah