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thing is, I know I can do almost anything with this engine. I've been there, done that already. But proving it to others through my shitty prototypes and poorly reviewed game released don't make me feel like I'm in the right place yet :/
and the people in the second step from first loop "then you'll think you are god" ask you, hows that you spend years doing something and you aren't good as he at it as you're in the "then you think you know nothing" from loop 5 @deep glen
and then turns out all was a dream after mountains ๐ค
I've just started working on projects from scratch again after spending the last 6 months working on the same amalgamated monstrosity that's been converted from one project to another over the last year of trying things out and I'm shocked by how much better my approach is to things I was doing even two months ago.
while focused on concept art, what he tells you about it can be applied to any principle, and even life (on learning things)
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GDC, i am watching them too. Still, I feel the need to talk more with ppl who doing the same what i am doing ๐
I mean anything called the "law of increasing awesomness" belongs in the master codex of devness. He misspelled awesomeness too, but I'm assuming he's just leaving room for more awesomeness.
I've been following the law of increasing awesomeness for some time. From the day I first started learning Unreal. Now I follow "the law of should have been a plumber"
I am the Technical Designer of my own oblivion
never liked that game. At first I thought it was ok, but when you go back to the starting zone at level 15 or 20 or something, and the fleas can kill you, it makes it being an RPG utterly pointless.
STOP! You violated the law. Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Your stolen goods are now forfeit.
Game is hilarious, many game breaking NPC actions so fun meme at this point ๐
I liked oblivion over Skyrim in a lot of ways
Skyrim is an improvement usually though
yeah I never got past the Mage city in Skyrim due to utter boredom
But yeah oblivion had a better town feel
I never got over the lack of being able to make spells like in Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights 2 was my jam back then.
Leveling up healing and destruction magic with a spell that burns yourself while healing you was the best.
Blah marrowind being predecessor to oblivion makes me feel dated lol. But yeah marrowind was one of those excellent games that are real difficult to revisit
sorrowind
Fast travel that doesn't have an ingame mechanic that makes sense is also a thing I think hurt the sense of scale in those games. Large worlds with a whole lot of nothing. That sense of scale that Morrowind had when it first came out was lost even though the worlds got bigger.
I liked Darklands cuz your characters could drop dead of old age
Skyrim needed more Random events, better ambushes for player, better AI navmesh AI can't reach you also AI bad at detecting sneaking players, also AI has no good ranged attacks.
i fixed everything with mods in my playthrough but base game is lacking.
Bethesda should hire modders because they fix bugs and game better than them at this point. Dont even look at FO76.
I have a question. Can you use steam gift cards for the game publish fee?
ugh.. Someone was asking about this for UE and now Unity has it. We have a spy ๐ https://blogs.unity3d.com/2020/04/03/introducing-a-new-way-for-you-to-connect-11-with-unity-community-experts/
great news though, if you own FO76, (pc version) you can get the steam version for free.
not if you own the Xbox version lol
Very good.
Spies everywhere ๐ต๐ผ
Unity has had that for a while though. It just seems like their pushing it a little more.
lol owning FO76 is great news?
:p
I dont have Fallout 76 until its fixed.
or making it easier to find
now you can have a crap game twice!
I think Unity should move to a royalty model.
twice the crap with 0 polish
yeah they have basicallyt improved it is why they are pushing it again and it makes a ton of sense in this environment @plucky pagoda
Their current model doesn't make them enough money and it leads to policies that piss people off.
Fallout 76 is a bad game i will only buy it for trolling other players as a raider if game gets better with Wastelanders update.
its quite interesting to see how large unity is trying to make the learning part of their ecosystem, rather than trying to do it all in house so much of their learning stuff is co authored or just bought from other people/sites lol
Yeah, they've definitely gone all in on that and the community stuff. There's something about it though that just misses with me. I'm not sure what it is.
Unity is good engine but I prefer Unreal because it is easier to find animators and 3D designers for UE.
Like their discord has a lot of great stuff but it's lost in the shear quantity of scroll.
Epic is trying to keep a standard so I can't fault them for that while Unity can be all over the place since alot of it is general community stuff (even if its high quality)
Unity has two Discords
wow
I like Epic standards. Until I don't want to use them. Then they get in the way.
we are our worst enemy
I'm really down on Unity right now and it's not the first time. I started using it before they went to the cheaper models, nearly from its start. Looking back even though I used it a lot it was never a good fit for me.
I am your own worst enemy
I'm really happy with most of what I've seen from Epic the last year.
Ive not seen as much of Epic this last year tbh
I'm a little concerned with the learn.unrealengine stuff. There's some good stuff there but it's not presented in the greatest way.
really? They have been there but mostly buying things for us to use :p
Not the content, but how it's organized.
My asset library more than doubled this last year through Epic alone
oh man yeah. That's one thing they could do so much better. Unity has finally added good filtering for your asset libraries.
Being able to preview the actual files in an asset before buying it is great too. There's a lot assets I've decided not to buy because I could see how they setup the models and it was not good.
Or plenty I've bought because I could see they included source files
I pray for the day we get rid of this launcher for something new. The website version of the store/etc is fine. But the launcher lags like me before coffee. That and they don't let you limit download speeds with it. So it hogs the bandwidth when updating
yeah that would be cool
Perhaps they could offer some kind of "promoted usage" of the Launcher source code. So people sign an NDA and get to do some PR work on it
I'm sure it'll get there. Too many people want some sort of sorting for it not to happen at some point.
Even a separate tab for projects and vault stuff would be a boon
Dunno man, I've been requesting that download limiter for years and I even went and figured out how to do it myself. It's a quick fix.
can you use Chaos without compiling your own build yet in 4.25?
No.
Whats the point of even including it then
one day it will reflect fortnite
last time i tried it was 60 shades of broken
Big companies should not use UE they should not be layz and make their own engine, do you think like me.
eh i don't think that works anymore kirito
umm dont big companies have their own engines
Mostly yes
engines aren't so simple anymore
@vast heron I agree. Unless they are making an Unreal Engine game, then they should use it
There's no reason other than personal interest to make your own engine anymore
the engine that they used for Final Fantasy 15 was awesome
big companies buy an engine
Atleast they should heavily modify Unreal Engine like Valve did to Quake engine modify it and called it Gold Src Engine.
aye but calling gold source a heavy mod is a bit of a stretch
one of these engines is written in c++ lol
I could see working with a more barebones engine to get a better understanding of the concepts, mechanics and rendering but there's free engines of everytype out there now
Gold Source is modified Quake engine am i wrong
like there is heavy mod and rewrite and its somewhere between
I ripped them off and created the Slow Inverse Square Root. Now my framerate is screenshot speed and I feel good ๐
kirito it was started with quake but quake is 100% C
okay
Quake 2 supports DLLs though
Not disagreeing but the actual original quake code only exists in the contents of its character really
quakec was that too iirc
damn, im not ready for it yet, but teach me in the future sempai marc xD
Doesn't source engine have some native quake engine source still in it?
Latest game using Source Engine, Alyx, Apex Legends, Titanfall 2 i think.
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u can tell by how crap it runs
iirc the EA games are based on the ps3 port of orange box EA published lol
The Quake engine was the only game engine to use QuakeC. Following engines used DLL game modules for customization written in C and C++ from id Tech 4 on.
Apex Legends ran sweet.... right as I ran into the hackers that ruined the game :p
Im sure Valve did alot of work but they didnt use Quake 1 engine it was somewhere in between
Alyx is source?
source 2 no?
yes
so it looks and runs like a turd? ๐
Source 2
to be fair, how it looks is here nor there. Thats an artist issue these days. Unless people are looking for the latest hot shit in effects that the majority won't notice. The original source was a donkey setup, but it looked amazing thanks to the texture work
VR is the future no more 2D gaming is a funny line i don't aggree with this statement.
well 3d is the future of gamin
I hope Valve release Half-Life 3 non VR.
they expect modders to make a non VR version of Alyx for em, bloody cheapskates
the rift is allready kinda dope, lots of room for improvements tho
Kirito did you play alyx tho?
I would prefer AR to take the lead over VR. You can make AR into VR easily, the other way around, not so much
I didn't played cant afford VR ๐
If valve was like: jk hl alyx is hl3
Instead finished Doom Eternal
my hindsight skills are amazing aswell
๐ Alyx is a solid game but i need to wait for VR prices to go down.
its beyond a solid game though
10/10 game
I have a strange feeling like Alyx means we've seen the end of Freeman
its literally the best handling of a franchise and its material i've seen since breath of the wild
all future Valve games are gonna be female protagonists
noooo
I have a Vive + Index controllers but I feel too sick for VR right now. I get claustrophobic
this whole hardware store lock kinda pisses me off tho
I dont want female character I want to be hero not damsell in distress.
dont wunna lose my lib if i ever go index or other headset
gotta be woke
so i just dont buy anything
kinda a dumb thing to say kirito
Hero with largest guns, large muscles, mean look ๐
freeman was a geek ๐
yeah freeman didnt have big enough balls to be a shooter hero
Freeman is a badass.
alyx is absolutely not that (damsell in distress)
Freeman fight against Tanks, Helicopters, Giant Aliens
Id argue her balls are bigger ๐
I dont get how Freeman was just a physicist, but took out a squad of those black ops and ninjas. I mean, I call bullshit.
all that radiation didnt do Gordon any favours ๐
in Alyx even headcrabs can kill you noting like Freeman.
read some comments on a tech site about alyx, lot of ppl said they would just watch a youtube playtrough for the story
pretty sad ๐
||there are references to gordon in the game though, one vortigaunt specifically is obsessed with him||
I watched from youtube because i dont have money but game is very well made, best VR game to this date.
I want those almost perfect shadows in Unreal
Like, those contact shadows are bloody perfect... haven't seen a glitch so far
Also, the reflections (which I guess are static cubemaps, but still)
somehow I dont think its the best VR game to date, its because Valve made it plain and simple. I was looking at the metacritic and in just this short amount of time it has so many more reviews than Roborecall
I like PokerstarsVR. Its been the only game I consistently go back to except for that little space game in The Lab
some are even really poor reviews but the pure mass of em has bumped the metacritic
also a lot of ppl bought headset for alyx and its the 1st experience
have you played it spoon?
People are honestly saying its the best HL game ever
it is though
simply because Steam didnt have a ratings system for HL2 or even exist for the first game
tbh dude the whole IP is stale as fuck
it retains half life and half life 2 things but pulls it off in vr in a way that makes insane sense
HL1 was kinda dope for the time, didnt play 2 much,, both would feel verry dated if i played em now
Id rather watch another Ridley Scott Aliens at this point
cant really compare to ancient stuff like that
It manages to take their shitty design and make it worse, sure does
Combine soldiers was my least favourite part of HL2
really watching a playtrough like that would make me feel ill real fast
I just dont understand how City 17 even happened really, they just dump you in it and its a fun enough game but Black Mesa was a better location
it made zero sense
it lent itself to the alien conspiracy better
but alyx happens between the two
id like to see Fear: Project origin in VR
actual spoilers: ||though black mesa hasn't been somewhere i've visited yet by playthough||
Im sure the gameplay of Alyx is awesome but Ive given up on Valve story writers after Portal, that was about as good as it gets
HL2 felt like a tech demo to me. I had more fun in the leaked dev kit
all i can say is that everything of hl alyx feels executed with great thought
like the franchise really really feels like it made up for hl2 in it
me too if I live through this ๐
Im honestly not that interested in VR
that was my position before it too
Not this janky plastic bits everywhere VR anyways
i haven't played a ton of vr games to be fair
in VR stuff up close is super dope, but far away gets pixelated
the extra pixel on the other eye wont add much than
Im more looking forward to it when its worth it, maybe 4-5 years
feel like hl alyx brought it to that point already but i really am starting to drone on that
Im hoping by then you'll be able to move using brainwaves rather than fucking with teleport
@signal citrus what headset?
hmm
you did say you havent tried many VR games though
well index would be better
so what are you comparing it to?
i usually get nothing out of vr games
so i'm comparing it to being unsatisified with most other experiences
robo recall was kinda dope
Im hoping by then you'll be able to move using brainwaves rather than fucking with teleport
@pearl elk unfortunately, it is as accurate as read keyboard input by putting inductive coil next to it and trying to measure a current
i kinda like the simple small stuff tho
prolly started up fantasynth more than 10 times ๐
robo recall was kinda dope
Im fine with VR as it stands. People have made some genuinely awesome games in VR that reflects the platform's best features. But the hardware on my face feels like some heffer sat on my face.
and it has no gameplay at all
Robo recall is kinda old now too, from what Ive heard HL Alyx mainly just copies the mechanics from games before it rather than bringing new stuff.
mm spoon, thing is just picking up items and interacting with the world is near perfect
like you can say it just took existing mechanics sure
but nothing does it as well
Yeah Ive heard its polished
i've not tried boneworks which is supposed to be good too, but have been told its not as solid
thing is I never liked the gravity gun, Im not really a woo physics kinda person unless I can shoot it to pieces with a minigun
its polished to a point where you go in expecting things to not work as well as they do, and sometimes sure things clip and stuff but its less than expected
VR needs a little suspension of disbelief to work anyway
Maybe if they did Garys Mod VR, I could have fun with that but basic physics interactions is yawn
gravity gloves are dope
that gravity pickup thing is a VR staple now though
there is also VR chat ๐
VR Fist of the North Star with chaos physics. Who's with me?
all Valve did was go, oh we have a reason for that
i'm sure the game is full of staples but it all works well
like Epic did with Field Lettuce Generators ๐
I dont need a reason for game mechanics to exist, gravity gloves are a nice touch I suppose but its not gonna make me buy an index
Id rather pay for a pair of actual gravity gloves, probably be cheaper
||fast head crabs, the long legged ones are introduced to you in the worst possible and nightmare enducing way. like they just really execute things in ways that is shocking to think they'd go there in vr. Like not afraid to put you in some really uncomfortable situations||
also made of unobtainium
lol
gotta understand I grew up in the arcades we had pretty good gun controls
I can flip someone off in VR. That's worth the ยฃ250 price tag :p
i had duckhunt on the 8 bit
hl alyx is more fun
ow yea timecrisis with 2 guna was amazing
ACTION
sega saturn
we'll see, we'll see if people have Alyx and an index for as long as those Timecrisis cabs are sticking around shall we ๐
@signal citrus I made a Time Crisis in VR prototype. I never got to finish it because it got to "needs money" stage but it was good fun
friend had a saturn and lend 2 guns for a friend from time to time
tbh that time crisis cab is impressive though, the tube on it, below the mirror is some how super sharp
I get it, its hip dope and cool, the real mccoy n anyone who's anyone has played Alyx. Flood the market with VR selfies n whatnot
do have to dust it off sometimes
eh i'm trying to say its not just hip, i sense that that is your impression that its a fad
Im just an old washed up guy who prefers Doom
lol
I think its one of the most skillful games on the market to date
I need to do maths in my games so I play things like Path of Exile ๐
Did you know the French Government once released a kind of simulation/game based on fixing the economy so they could get new ideas from people? ๐
i do like games with skill for sure. like tony hawk where everything just devolves to score multiplier and stuff
https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/educational-games/economia/html/index.en.html another one but it's flash so beware
I really loved Half-life when it was released, it just upped the ante for every FPS after it
it was a worthy single player game at a time when people were still getting use to mouse and keyboard for FPS games
The way the demo was a full stand alone episode, got you into the action and gave you a taste of things to come. The train ride didnt seem like such a slog off the back of that
Did you ever play the PS2 version of Half-life? They added an aimbot because console players = noobs :p
Having NPCs you can get to follow and help out, you could really use them to your advantage in some spots. The set pieces, the levels were linear but they didnt feel like your modern linear "cinematic" games
yuck
or was it the turtle people
ahh yeah it was gearbox then
yeah looks like it was the cancelled dreamcast version re-factored
can you strangle enemies with it?
or hang one up use it as an ambush
oh right I forgot, HL is all about ambushing you
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52152268 Welcome to England, home of the scumbag.
This is why I dont trust too easily
Makes you wonder if its always been like this or if there was a time when you could invite strangers into your house without getting screwed over
yeah in England there was. I was born in the tail end of it. We used to know everyone in our local area, and we all helped each other out with things like hand-me-down clothing and if someone was in real trouble, someone was always there to help. Now its like people don't make eye contact in case they have to talk to each other.
I grew up in a small town where everyone knew everyone so there wasnt really any strangers
there were around 10,000 people in the town I was born. Only small. Can walk the entire place in 20 minutes
Scumbags in every country and every city.
I grew up in a big city I don't like big cities because everybody living here was a zombie before virus also new generation only looking phones when walking and its disgusting.
soon displays will be glasses, they wont need to look on a device xD
They should put a microchip to their neck so they can accessed by Google Data Analystics :d lol
New google service google tracker, you will get discounts and forced ads to your brain
yeah no need for optics at all, brain interface
forced add dreams xD
adblock brain edition
waste of power rendering all those graphics when you could be encoding it directly
you know what the best part is?
time is relative so you could play 1000hrs in 10hrs if you speed up the simulation rate
digitising faces on your sexual partners when you get bored? ๐
can the brain keep up with the speed ๐ค
sex is already obsolete
the brain works at around 5000 wpm so probably does ok
the subconscious probably works faster tbh
once a population reaches a certain density it forms natural barriers to procreation
no virtual machine translating ๐
you see it with fish for example
Monsium is new currency
Affluence kills population increases. Poverty increases it. So if we want balance, we must redistribute wealth. Just sayin' like :p
bear in mind, im on child #5 so I've probably made up for someone else ๐
we shouldnt need wealth at all. I mean at this state we are right now, we would be able to create a world sharing ressource system and free energy through natural ressource for all. No worker needed once maschines are established. Just free time for everyone xD
kinda utopia
it'll never happen while greed exists
sadly yes
Virtual Reality world without dying please.
Oh dear, Massive/Ubisoft. Your first mistake was the game. The second mistake was asking me what I think about it. Game on.
Virtual World of Division 3 if you die in game die in real life ๐ died to a glitch Ubi!!!!!!!
I love how they made this game, and put a character creator for your face at the start, and first thing they do, make you grind for masks.
sounds like NYC might actually be run by warlords soon
they have more money than Trump or the mayor ๐
lol trump asking mexican druglords for help would make my day
ROFL. There isn't enough players in the game to do this unless they only wanted 10 opinions. Obviously people have been calling then twats out ๐
they have some slick labs tho
and a good supply of medical masks ๐
I really want him to release a fragrance
called Elons Musk
Elon Musk will destroy the virus using Nano Tech
As long as it doesn't catch on or my friend "Mike Fartzinnabottal" might get in on it
Callum Murray might get in on the fragrance scene too
You know what would be nice?
If @UnrealEngine would pick this up for their permanently free collection. Think quite a few #ue4 and #vfx peeps would appreciate it :) https://t.co/NHHZbRQcYY
i've yet to understand how material editor picks what material functions to show me lol
when i search for them with right click, must be just ones that are loaded into memory or something
I hope we get Next Gen Destruction in new AAA Games.
Think about it casting a spell in game making Earth Quake wipe out half of enemy military force ๐
We need Red Faction Destruction on Streoids
It's almost like the UK Conservative party policy in action.
And everyone acts like there was nothing we couldve done in advance to prepare
This is not a virus, this is a biological weapon but i don't know who made it.
Shit man you should goto the UN and WHO and tell them. They presume its a mutated form of SARS-Coronavirus. You should let them know you solved the puzzle and ask whoever made it to give us the cure eh.
I know this is a virus but its a man made virus.
Yeah if you ask nicely theyre sure to provide the vaccine
you know this... no you don't.
Whatever after this virus outbreak is over say good bye to EU. EU will collapse i think.
EU is not prepared for this outbreak.
Yeah that grouped up solidified set of countries who ally together will collapse in the new socialist world.
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@deep glen LOL i saw that dude and almost replied. But im learning...
World will not be same after this virus outbreak i am expecting lots of countries collapsing.
cool you should start making a new map of the world then
idk, thinking about buying some puts against the NWO
is that on the New York Exchange?
every second that passes changes the world so much its not the same as it was the second before.
@plucky pagoda Knowing the NWO, they would buy put options on themselves too
People should prepare for wrost case scenario. Buy supplies, food, medicine and guns.
Maybe this is the real end game for the NWO. Increasing Put option visibility and sales ๐
and mental health insurance
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We don't know future maybe we will find vaccine for this virus.
There is also good scenarios
If we keep social distance and wash our hands we will be safe, if everybody follow rules there will be less cases.
yeah until it mutates and/or goes airborn
"Buy guns"
how muricah of you
What if its already airborne and the governments of the world are lying to you?
I thought 5G was how China was reading everyones thoughts
https://giphy.com/gifs/thetick-the-tick-xTcf1gUpg87E5lNK2A
what if its just socially created fear of something that does not exist to kill off all the old (and unhealthy) people.
or maybe they changed their plans cuz they read my thoughts ๐ฎ
aged care is one of the most expensive things globally
Block unknown phone numbers and you should be save @shut bloom
theres only one or two things more expensive, one of em is military and they wouldnt cut that budget
cuz we could all die of virus but noo we still need thousands of tanks and fighter jets
lol if everyone dies of virus I will try my best to enjoy as many of those tanks as possible before I die
if I die before Cyberpunk 2077 comes out, im coming back as DLC
it'll probably get delayed like everything else
Last of Us 2 is delayed indefinitely ๐ฆ
They are waiting, in a year or two they will have opportunity to add based on true story
I'm going to try out the UWP build @EvoPulseGaming#2712 has been working on. It looks like you can publish straight to Xbox One through your partner account with it.
@deep glen if you have some spare time google all roads lead to dark winter
Stay Home Stay Safe :D
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im working on making my mat-functions marketplace ready atm, might check later
im working on... procrastination apparently.
Trying to come up with a title using random generation. This is a good start.
Destroy Uranus
"Frodo ! When I said we had to destroy the ring... I didn't mean that !"
oh....
"The rise and fall of Risey Falley"
Why she is not wearing body armor and helmet
also groin protectors are important you know
I've come to hate third person. I think it's stupid. Fortnite taught me that. I mean, who the fuck aims a weapon whilst trying not to get your back in the way of your aim.
Third person only good if you playing as a female character.
dude the 1950's are that way --->
I prefer third, gives me more awareness
Depends on the game the more important story is the more I tend to prefer third person
@quiet narwhal thats another thing. Looking around corners of being extra aware from unfeasible angles. It detracts from gameplay to me. If I want to kneel behind cover, I dont want to see over the cover unless I look with my head, but TPS ruins that
Thirdperson Shooters will be awesome with VR in future.
...
Fortnite for example, you land, you see someone, so you hide, but they can use TPS to exploit looking into houses and around corners. Its annoying ๐
@vast heron well if you see how fast china recovered and how it offers help to everyone (after payment) then its normal to think something is going on..
also the fact that they knew about it since at least december but maybe evne november.. makes u think they expected such situation and prepared before for it
and the fact that they make their numbers smallers to make WHO and the world think that this flu is not dangerous at all
Skyrim did it best tho
First person + 2 third person modes
Turn towards movement direction and strafe(combat) mode
We dont have a budget for animations (makes first person game)
ESO has the same basic setup, first or third and when it combat it goes to strafe. I really enjoy it. Doing the same for my stuff but adding in lock on for combat
I loathe that I get sick from first person these days... I won't be able to play Cyberpunk 2077 ๐ฆ
@zinc matrix I aggree with most of the points. FPS game with optional TPS is good for RPG/Open World.
Yeah in unreal its fairly simple to add that mathew... which is why i wonder why more games dont have that
Thirdperson camera is not hard to do. But most FPS games does not include third person animations for characters.
True, with third person comes that workload..
well technically you can reuse the anims you would do for other NPCs anyway. #cheap
gf is watching a 2019 dance festival on tv with speakers loud.
I have meditative asian flute music on my noise canceling headset.
#relationshipgoals
My son is blasting Jack Sceptic Eye videos whilst he eats his dinner. My wife is playing Farcry Primal. I'm procrastinating. I need to get my life in order.
jesus dude. Let it go. Let it go
Enjoyed primal a lot... i like how they have their engine really locked down just switch assets around and boom a new game
basically the only difference is control over the dither size, and dither-noise.
Im not smartypants enough to make it "cheaper"
(its the same cost)
material node
Link
its always been in ue4
ditherTempAA
Ah ok
for some unknown reason
Thats the one i use?
yuz
For an effect I had the regular dithering felt not stylized enough, so made my own version
https://i.gyazo.com/2b108b85b4b375078fa843b7e4f4d633.mp4 (gif is crappy)
reminds me of my first love
as long as everyone at home. do reroute nodes count as virtual machine call (in usual bp, not materials)? It might be funny if they did
it would get compiled out for sure
I kinda wish there was an easy way of having a standard low res dither but I'll figure things like that out eventually.
Chinese cartoons
disney early year where doing alot anti propaganda movies
isnt there an easy way to understand what ue wants so i get the result i want xD
Is there a model viewer similar to windows file explorer? with thumbnails or whatever
visual studio
:.(
nope, im one of these poor ppl too xD
ue makes me feel dumb :.(
i do understand the concept of what i want to do, but im still not able to make it xD
All knowledge is acquired before it is known. Keep drilling those manuals and testing prototypes and you will get there.
can i bother you for a minute marc ? xD
yeah whats up
Just need to finish a game at all ffs
yeah I know the feeling ๐ฆ
that'll be nice
Rigging and animating is so bad right now
I just wanna be able to produce animations and meshes for the default ue4 skeleton without having to fight with retargeting and blender
Mr Mannequin does the job tho
Not a solution though
why isnt it a solution if its the best solution currently?
Because if you want to make custom characters they have to be exactly the same
thats not something I think the Mr.Mannequin tools are for though so I guess your right. Could always use Maya or 3ds though and it will be fine
its too expensive :p
Hey guys, I am working on a little project that a friend at a game dev company gave me that is in c++ dealing with memory pool stuff. I was wondering if there is anyone on here proficient in that subject of c++ that would be willing to help me out?
I would go to the programming room, but i know that that is meant for UE4 programming specifically
and this is standard C++
please dont cross post. I think they might tell you off
yeah this is the only channel I posted in
yeah, i posted in blueprint this time. waiting to see if someone will/can help me out too xD
@zinc matrix every attempt I've made to put a custom mesh on the default skeleton has failed spectacularly, from blender
@hearty cliff then where did I see your other post?
I have no idea @fathom wadi I don't even think I have posted it in another server
What is the workflow though? There aren't any good tutorials on it
^
@hearty cliff thats crazy. I literally read your post before you posted it. Hence my advice.
I do appreciate your warning though. I do try and stick to the rules as best as possible. But sometimes I don't even know that i am doing something wrong until I am told
hey its no bother. we just help each other keep the server clean ๐
Todays lesson don't' forget to add a command line parameter before starting a nice long build.
whats confusing me now is, did I time travel?
yes
It's very possible
no seriously I read that about 5 minutes before you posted it in here. Probably in the main Unreal Engine channel
if I didn't, then im going fucking mental
nah i thought seing his message too xD
could be both
I've done tons of research, I know how to rig and weight paint. Blender just does not play nice with UE4
but on the other hand, im pretty sure my mental health isnt the greatest xD
No it doesn't. I promise, it does not
Blender doesn't work with UE4 properly for bones. They come in with the wrong rotation
its a longstanding issue
or one of the old ones, or to use mixamo and retarget etc etc
I like the 3ds CAT rig method myself but I wont use 3ds anymore
yeah the entire community is wrong and Epic are too for making the fix
jesus h christ
You'll have to make a tutorial on how you magically got it working with no issues
no direct import. You can retarget anything from anything no matter the DCC
We're talking about, export the mannequin to blender > remove the mesh > make your own mesh > apply the skeleton to the new mesh > import it back into UE4 > test animations
The bones will be rotated in blender
Can't
It has to be that skeleton
no, the skeleton straight out of UE4 into blender. Just trying to add a new animation, everything comes out wrong
its something to do with blenders import/export of the fbx format
its a Y-forward issue for bones.
In order to make compatible characters, they have to use that skeleton
doesn't have to but it makes for easy retargetting without farting around
tried 'em all, nothing works. Only thing I have tried yet is mr mannequin, but I"m just gonna wait for the offical tools from epic now
should probably read again. It's a Y-Forward issue for the bone rotation where UE is X-Forward.
yeah but people want their marketplace animations to work
well its not really that different. They just have a hip and root where UE has a root. But that needs a script to retarget from blender too
Best thing to do is just use the UE rig for everything ever.
sad newbie noises
eh would recommend against mannequin rig in blender
tube?
It is a CRT but it is 16:9...
Super odd...
No bubble screen, which was common among late model CRT tvs...
It has a USB port on the side. I haven't checked the back yet...
haha yeah i've got a flat crt as well. but haven't seen one in 16:9
what is the resolution?
I had one back in the day.
I haven't turned the thing on or plugged anything in...
I kind of just went into the apartment, made sure they cleaned the place, and then left to go sign papers and get my internet set up.
There is also a super heavy solid wood desk in the second bedroom, perfect for my ultrawide whenever I get that thing back...
more sad newbie noises
Even 3dsmax has issues with bones in UE4
you cant scale anything or it comes out wrong, the bones have to be created at the scale you need them in UE4
I blame Epic relying on Mayas transform too heavily ๐
Poor CRT neglected for the internets ๐
Donald Trump has said he probably will not be wearing a protective face mask after his administration encouraged people living in the US to wear face masks in public to prevent spreading the coronavirus.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued new guidance...
Yeah, true but not as thick as the President ๐
put something thick on ur face? ๐
Thinking of making some Trump masks now, they will protect people better as they are thicker.
XD
People in Shanghai are all outside shopping today.
Maybe Trump needs alittle history lesson about why the CDC exists
They were out of stock on internets though...
Trump needs a history lesson period. That and a maths lesson, grammar, any of the sciences...
lol I think he'd fail high school
He probably did. But money.
not for the lack of trying though, he'd probably try to bribe the headmaster and that doesnt work try to get him fired ๐
Anyways quick topic change... what are peoples most favourite FPS Arena levels of all time?
@north torrent why is your chinese house made out of stone ??
As soon as they see a white guy walk into the internet store, they put up an out of stock sign.
I left and look over my shoulder and they took the sign down.
No bubble screen, which was common among late model CRT tvs...
@north torrent you can make various crt displays, but if it is not bubble one, the deflection system has to be smarter and smarter, while the geometry of screen diverges more and more from bubble
16:9 in a CRT is what I find most odd.
nope
I know a Karol, he's Polish. It roughly translates to Charlie in English though ๐
There is this burger place in Shanghai called 'Taco'.
They do actually sell a taco, but you can only find it on the secret menu.
lol secret menu?
Well, it isn't all that secret. It is just hidden down at the bottom of the app under the sections like 'extra napkins' and stuff like that.
But they have like 20 types of Australian beef burgers.
That's... a lot.
Wildlife is finally returning to Britainโs streets. Nature is healing ๐โ๏ธ https://t.co/p4xYmf1oPx
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Did I tell you about the chickens I saw yesterday, Mr. Hevedy?
i need a tool which starts recording my webcam for x minutes while pc is on sleep
Sounds like an oddly specific thing with very niche use cases.
doesnt sound niche at all
Really? How many people want to use a webcam when the PC is on sleep and can't actually use a webcam? ๐
the webcam can still save files. ssd is under power
its not turned off
if me outside, record video if motion detected
^ this is what i want
doest need to be in sleep
sounds like spyware
security camera software
sound like monsWare
mensware?
men dont swear what you talkin bout
where they are
Doo Maternal
what is a good spycam software
This has now become a little creepy.
if me outside, record video if motion detected
If me inside dont record my motions
if me outside. Lock doors.
give me a good spycam tool
please
corona from sun
no, use google yourself if you want to spy on people.
is wathing us
Someone please tell me an amazing FPS arena map
make one
Im trying to, just trying to work out what people like most ๐
Im going for verticality over size
Only first person shoot shoot game I really played much was Halo 3...
Oh so your opinion doesnt matter then hehe ๐
what the hell https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckepic/comments/bs4kh6/rfuckepic_for_dummies_a_quick_breakdown/
jesus, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to spend his valueble time ranting.
its a whole subreddit
All Ive seen Epic do in recent times is giving away so much to the gamers, to the developers, to everyone
Tim Sweeney is like there with hundreds and everyone else is on stripper poles dancing. Whats not to like?
Meanwhile Gabes steaks have grown to 2 tonne large and are being delivered by truck ๐
delivery game for free EPIC store
Easy fix: buy off the subreddit moderators. seems to be what everyone does
what?
i hate world war z game
what is that crap
enter a game with oher real players. and fight the zombies in the !arena! thats it
i thought this is supposed to be for l4d fans
but its more like fortnite
Its for WWZ fans cuz theres plenty of other zombie IPs cuz zombies are generic AF
I prefer Dead Island Riptide
too arcade/cartoon/call of duty -y
I dunno I thought the story was far superior to either L4D game
which are basically LulZ run to safe room
o.o
at least the zombies in l4d dont look like arcade call of duty mod
and in dead island the zombies are too strong/fast
Dying light
Theres a section in Dying Light which is a direct rip from Dead Island
you come up from the sewers into a hotel
same level just slightly different layout
and you forgot to mention that DL is a lot more fun
more realistic
better looking
better story
but which hotel u talking bout?
Nah no where near a better story, its got some great characters but the parkour thing gets old fast. The maps designed really well in some spots just terribad in others
The single player story bits are too forced, Riptide has far better coop
you play coop story? how is that possible
Im hoping Dying Light 2 will fix alot of the problems I had with the first game
i hope vr dl2
I wouldnโt count on it releasing within years
Im happy to wait for it, as long as I dont spend the entire game on roof tops lock picking chests ๐
Don't think dying light 2 will be better than original
Well they went from 2020 to โI donโt knowโ
yeah it was being delayed well before this whole thing started
same with Last of Us 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 tbh
These had dates though
yeah true, Dying Light 2 is a technical challenge with the multiple path thing though
virus perhaps
Was delayed in January so they would have been way ahead of the curve
Im happy to wait as long as they need, to me this is a good sign when a company says we've bitten off a huge chunk, we can do it, just need time.
Id love to see their character physics netcode tbh
People are too generous with release date schedules
Itโs why everyone says they are coming out tomorrow for hype then no one cares when they need more unexpected polishing or testing
Watch the 26-minute award-winning Dying Light 2 gameplay demo to see how a water crisis unfolds in an infected city. Follow an entire in-game mission and find out how your tough choices shape the narrative and The City itself.
Itโs been 15 years since humanity lost to the vi...
"cinematic"
this aint no case of the anthems ๐
singing in games the new century
Why say your releasing in 2020 months before delaying though
cuz Publishers are dicks ๐
so epic games is too?
Devs probably been tellin the Publisher for ages, we cant hit that date and finally they saw the issues for themselves and listened
They also gotta make these games work on some pretty weak hardware if theyre releasing on Xbox One and PS4
Everyone deserves scrutiny though. Canโt just be a free pass everytime, even though that seems to be exactly the case I guess
Yeah but that isnโt something they canโt include in a schedule lol
Yeah I get it, it looks really bad and you cant just keep pushing things back with the "when its done" mentality cuz thats not a sign of progress
Actually Xbox One seems to be holding alot of games up in terms of porting
Its going to get worse in the future too cuz theres no exclusivity for any Xbox platform, the new one is just yet another platform ontop of the rest to support
Cyberpunk reasoning was โoh no testing takes time we didnโt think of, our bad. We want best cyberpunkโ
due to Xbox One NDA of the game must release on the same day as every other port
the rumour mill around Cyberpunk 2077 was it didnt run for shit on Xbox One and since it was shown exclusively in partnership with MS... well cant have them lookin bad ๐
Is Sony not the same V4?
Im certainly not against porting to weaker systems but I dont see why it should hold up PC releases
no
Theyre gonna have to loosen up on Xbox One support, let people make it only for One X and Series X
PS4 port can change date form the original pc game for a example
Potato mode and done
in Xbox port you cant do that
Its a bad move cuz you end up with rushed ports, Switch is going great with ports cuz those games are mostly already done so no pressure just make the port run the best.
Yeah but the new mw2 campaign is a PlayStation 4 exclusive for a month
So such rule must have some exceptions
โUnless your call of dutyโ for example
Billions of dollars will do that
Wouldnโt think cyberpunk be subject to such thing
The โunless your keanue reevesโ policy and all
yeah but theres also "gamers are idiots" policy ๐
It might have to do with CDPR self publishing along side
MS were probably begging em to publish it to get that exclusivity
MS have more then millions if they wanted the cyberpunk in xbox/pc exclusive for short since they deny millions from epic, sony and maybe more. So the game release everywhere without exclusivity
Epic also need to promoted there own EGS games because the devs/publisher aren't doing marketing at all for there own game
Im willing to bet Cyberpunk will be one of the biggest sellers ever simply because its going to be available everywhere
that the point that CDPR want with no exclusivity
Im definitely gonna buy it on GoG, just because i have accounts everywhere so its not like I need to buy it somewhere else ๐
most of sales will like the witcher GoG and Steam will make of it
I do get abit of a kick out of Steam achievements, trading cards but its really not much of a value add
My achievements are spread across so many platforms simply because of exclusivity and whatnot so theres no point. I'll never have a centralized place to go, look at this, all my stuff boom right there
Maybe GoG will try, maybe Epic Online stuff gets it right, who knows. Its a mess!
It is online right?
But itโs not like hitman 2?
Where itโs just snoopy online connection to some server? There will be coop?
Which game are we talking about, Cyberpunk?
I was under the impression it was SP only with the MP game being a separate thing released later
but obviously these days SP comes with some live service shit
MP is year later
I dont think Ive seen anything about Netrunning so maybe there is some sort of coop in there
I do like coop but sometimes a game is better without it, like for example horror, its easier to be scared when in solitary because you dont have that comfort of a group
we are cyberAnimals now
cyberAnimal Crossing
Unreal CyberEngine
he is pretty good in mk11
lol if he is, he could probably beat me. I try to be good but I suck at that game
Extinction is inevitable with the arrival of Terminator T-800 to the Mortal Kombat 11 roster. Available for Early Access on Oct 8th, the iconic killing machine will have the likeness of Arnold Schwarzenegger along with its classic armory.
Buy here: http://go.wbgames.com/MK11 ...
was referring to him lol
they got someone else to do his voice?
yeah even made him look slightly just enough different
Damn the animations in this game are amazing
still find the combat clumsy but yeah
I really dislike the fatal blows, wish I could turn em off
have you seen the joker yet? in mk11
other than that move I like the rest of it
the bots always fatal blow and go hyper on me, feels cheap and not skillful
yeah, idk the timing on that game with attacks is too sluggish
but the joker is so hyper violent. i don't know how dc approved it lol
I prefer MKX abit more for the combat but theres some cool combos, characters and effects in MK11
imo: mk9 was better than mkx, mk11 is slightly better than mkx
both have stupid collect the crap gameplay
ye
its the one with the better combat
actual breakers
it sucks when the gameplay is slightly off but the game looks so amazing
i think with mk series it has to be a conscience decision
this is why mods are the best, I could make MK11 better with a small mutator
if you could do a breaker in between the moves of a fatal blow or somethin, or if it were 3x shorter and you could do it 3x
but one move which can take so much of your health is just stupid 1 shot BS
Its meant to be some sort of equalizer but if youre that far behind you screwed up to begin with. With good breakers and combos you should be able to do similar in a skillful way which is worth watching more than a canned sequence
to me it just seems like a way to stick more animation in
which is what its turned into
the guns I can handle with alittle bit of lockdown because MK3 had similar and MK on N64 had weapons too
I dont like it, especially Kano but I could deal with it if it wernt lockdown, fatal blow, lockdown, fatality... bot wins
More animation is not always a bad thing if its done right, the way they did it in MK vs DC was pretty cool
I think it should still have input though, its not even a QTE its complete loss of control of your character
in this context i mean their desire to stuff more animation in for fatal blows detracts from the gameplay
the gameplay seems to come second
Yeah it sure does even though the animation system in the game is good enough to handle pretty decent dynamic strings of combos
they totally could, theres no reason to play the same fatal blow over and over again
its almost like it was added in last minute "cuz its cool" and it fucks the whole game to put it bluntly
my complaint here is not a lot different than what doom 16 started doing. but there at least its not like 10 seconds of pause lol
i imagine it was much more of: months of work to get cool animation of icicle in eye socket
like i doubt they could last minute author all of those things
well the fatal blows are all pretty weak in visuals imo
the brutalities are far more entertaining
I was on the fence with x-rays, I liked em because the gameplay was alright and to do a long one you needed to build it up it wasnt just low health kpow 1 shot
I was never particular fond of the visuals though, it got very meh after awhile, bit like Sniper Elite
"people like fatalities, how do we put more fatalities in the game"
Its possible those blows were xrays then they just made it so theres only 1 type rather than 3 tiers because each fatal blow seems to have 3 different cuts to it
Thats where you different xray bars would have been previously and you needed all full to do the triple banger
i didn't care for xrays either though really but yeah fatal blows seem like twice as long
they do the same thing with ... that other mortal kombat game that i can't remember the name of with dc characters
MK vs DC, thats the one I was talking about but it was alittle better
you could smash em through the walls and roof
nah the other one
Injustice
I love what theyve done with Baraka in MK11, I really want to play more of the game but its just so frustrating. The towers even worse cuz of the MTX bullshit, you have to pay for the mods to get past anything
injustice is the one yeah, they kinda turned mk into just a fan service thing like injustice is
people do mod mk11 though so maybe you could take a hand at it
The mobile game is easy as, just swipe directions, I enjoyed it for awhile though until their permissions became overreaching
Heh cool there is mods, I had no idea
There was one thing they did in MK I couldnt pass the test your might, turns out you grab and pencil and voila easy as
lol i found that too
I was like wtf, this whole time I thought super humans were doing this shit and I couldnt, turns out everyone was bloody cheating
i'm pretty sure when you start having to exploit the controller to win, like i mean: I don't think really good players can even beat that, nor does the game ever require you to tap so fast.. It seemed like a dumb thing lol
yeah lol
I thought it might be some sort of "the pen is mightier than the sword" joke but it was still frustrating ๐
cheating or really good at blood circulation
they could be 12yr old girls hehe, highly dexterious
Did you see the new MK fighter, Korona?
chick wearing blue hospital masks as bikini and a mask
๐ฅฐ
our game trailer just hit 1 mio. views ๐ฒ
Whats the game called?
mortal shell
Check out the announcement trailer for Mortal Shell, an action RPG that takes inspiration from the soulslike realm.
#ign
๐ฎ looks amazing
@supple pine are you developer of this wow.
Incredible job, I don't like these type of games but your game will be 9/10 material if it's stable 60+FPS on good system without frame rate drops.
Thanks.
Is this game have character customization like dark souls i can buy it ๐
bugger me, that looks amazing
Please do not release games until finished than make good Q/A testing. I want you be successful and good reviews.
The narrator of that video really needs a lozenge.
It reminds me of this utterly brilliant song by Neil from The Young Ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqm3x8rNyuw
Tracks 5 and 6 from "Neil's Heavy Concept Album".
Spoken material on all tracks by NIGEL PLANER with Dave Stewart, Ted Hayton, Rowland Rivron, Simon Brint, Roberta Green and Nick Revell
HORRIBLE ELECTRIC MUSICIANS
Heavy metal drummer Bryson Graham
Flash studio drummer Gavin ...
not sure tbh. Do the interactive objects have sub-interaction? ie. if you were to hover over a DVD player, can you press the buttons?
ee
๐ I get strange from time to time. But my musical library spans every style.
I noticed all chaos plugins are on by default in 4.25 (binary preview), does this mean 4.25 switched to chaos for physics?
doubt it
perhaps they are just making so you don't need to compile it specifically. But I imagine it will still take years to replace it. 1, 2, maybe more. who knows. It's the most complex beast the engine has seen since UE4 started really
I see. Hope its sooner. At least as beta.
I hope they don't rush it
swapping the default physics means it will break thousands of projects that try to upgrade to 4.25 even if it would work "properly"
The two engines dont interact right now, which is a bit limiting.
at this stage it would be a disaster
never is more likely
I don't really see why you'd want to mix these once chaos is functional enough
Didn t they switch physics engines before and it was fairly seamless?
they've never had multiple physics engines on the engine at once
they started work in enabling that around 4.21 or so
I dont want to mix, i cant really switch normal physics stuff to it. At least not sure how.
but if you mean the time when they upgraded from physx 3.3 to 3.4 they just swapped the old physx out on the process
and man what nightmare it was even with that small changes
Maybe that, i thought it was using bullet.
UE4 users were basically guinea pigs for physx 3.4 as it wasn't even released yet the moment it got swapped in unreal
this is why you shouldn't use ue 4.13 or 4.14 if you need physics
Unreal has never used bullet physics
(stock ue that is)
I've had bullet running as ue4 plugin
I need the glorious destruction... and keep the current collisions working the same.
4.13 was my nemesis build. Its the worst build I've used
I dont think they can get rid of PhysX entirely though without something magical. Almost impossible even without a re-write of everything. Imagine the trouble you have to go through. Characters for examples. Pretty much replacing the entire structure of it's physics is like stripping away what makes it what it is.
Maybe i am not getting something, but if interface is the same, what difference does it make?
the big thing is IF there. Perhaps the entry point to engine is the same interface, but the implementation isn't.
Interface like addimpulse(...) etc... yeah iโd imagine if you modify internal functionality youre boned..
i have
liver/lung/ pain
or kidney
is it coronja?
how can you even have liver infection
only toxic thing i eat drink
is coffee
and fried meat
season of flu it can be any virus not only a corona (has many variants too, not only 19)
im virulogist, belive me
hello, im thinking on buying a new computer maybe even build it , what would you suggest for 1000 -1500 budget (considering i have a gtx 1660 ti)
1500 beans?
potatos!
Yen
thats expensive stuff
haha "usd"
so toilet paper rolls
hey could i get some help with blue prints in private dms. thanks
We're nearing 2 weeks in lockdown now and already the people I live with are getting insufferable and arguing all the time ๐ฆ Crappy environment to work in
You can try dig a hole and hide them in there.
@analog hamlet Activities requiring any possibility of danger or search and rescue are specifically prohibited ๐
Well then pretend to be sick they will move out quickly i think. Either way, peace will come. :)
I'm in a big city, but I'm unemployed so no reason/money to leave the house
cept I have to get groceries soon
Can you not order from Just Eat But Don't Touch?
milk and bread are the two main things I'm getting tomorrow. Rest of groceries are being ordered online for monday pickup
eep. I basically start my lockdown on monday now that I am out of work. Got the kids as well to deal with for school going back into remote learning. Hoping no one will die before this is over lol
atleast nobody you care about ๐
heh. wife thankfully still has work
the chances are extremely small to die
die = kill the kids being stuck at home with them
no
when i buy groceries i leaave the non perishables out for at least 4 hours, bring in the milks and colds stuffs and wash them before putting in fridge...
but
the science says corona virus can last up to 3 days on plastic
so idk how safe im really being
the revenge of freezers has come
The virus that causes COVID-19 remains for several hours to days on surfaces and in aerosols, a new scientific study has found. The study suggests that people may acquire the coronavirus through the air and after touching contaminated objects.
i believe it though, and thats part of the problem
because people are thinking everything isfine
but they are hosts
the only solution is to carpet bomb everything
except if the test is flawed and people are false identified
The simple fact is, that many places around the world have been able to contain the virus without major outbreaks.
I think it is just a matter of learning from what did work and what didn't work for the places that got hit with it a month ago.
they made report in italy about 88% of dead people didnt actually die of virus damage, but something else. also was something about issues with tests they had falsely identified people.
Or two months ago.
So the rate of people who died from slipping on banana peels just coincidentally skyrocketed 20x the same time a virus outbreak happened?
well its probably not the virus itself killing, its the complications created by it
yes lets not be hasty and blame the virus guys
and the fact that the hospitals cant serve ppl when it is already full ^^
Interitus, no i mean literally there was a different reason. these people who die usually have something called pre morbidity, another reason for dying eg cancer. And they die unfortunately on daily basis.
I should go inform the CDC about this cancer thing. I don't think they have heard about it.
They know about it. The problem is with how you read the numbers.
And how the newspaper feeding it into your head to read it
Are newspapers still a thing in 2020?
we need toiletpaper, so yes xD
For clarifying, they close the active cases either the active case deceased or finally healed, and the numbers does not make distinction of reasons. They were tested positive and considered active cases.
I can send you some. No shortage here.
Only in one particular part of the world... The rest of us don't understand...
0unlike bitcoin, toiletpaper grows on trees :d
haha
Here, toilet paper isn't worth the paper it is printed on.
is it even really paper
Is paper even real?
it is not digital, therefore it is real, right ?
or is made in china products not real ๐ค
is the internet real ?
if only companies werent so greedy to exploit child labor and make everything in china
i want some organic american made toilet paper
dont easy condemn child worker company's , condemn the system, sometimes they need this few cents to survive. Life is so much more complicated :3
and the funny thing is, it is our own fault all that
its our brains fault that we get so easily swayed by commercials