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pure marlin
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but yeah i got you

fathom wadi
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thing is, I know I can do almost anything with this engine. I've been there, done that already. But proving it to others through my shitty prototypes and poorly reviewed game released don't make me feel like I'm in the right place yet :/

median wraith
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and the people in the second step from first loop "then you'll think you are god" ask you, hows that you spend years doing something and you aren't good as he at it as you're in the "then you think you know nothing" from loop 5 @deep glen

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and then turns out all was a dream after mountains ๐Ÿค–

pearl elk
plucky pagoda
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I've just started working on projects from scratch again after spending the last 6 months working on the same amalgamated monstrosity that's been converted from one project to another over the last year of trying things out and I'm shocked by how much better my approach is to things I was doing even two months ago.

deep glen
fathom wadi
pure marlin
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GDC, i am watching them too. Still, I feel the need to talk more with ppl who doing the same what i am doing ๐Ÿ˜„

plucky pagoda
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I mean anything called the "law of increasing awesomness" belongs in the master codex of devness. He misspelled awesomeness too, but I'm assuming he's just leaving room for more awesomeness.

fathom wadi
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I've been following the law of increasing awesomeness for some time. From the day I first started learning Unreal. Now I follow "the law of should have been a plumber"

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I am the Technical Designer of my own oblivion

vast heron
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Todd's Oblivion is good

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TES Oblivion

fathom wadi
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never liked that game. At first I thought it was ok, but when you go back to the starting zone at level 15 or 20 or something, and the fleas can kill you, it makes it being an RPG utterly pointless.

vast heron
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Game is hilarious, many game breaking NPC actions so fun meme at this point ๐Ÿ˜„

signal citrus
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I liked oblivion over Skyrim in a lot of ways

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Skyrim is an improvement usually though

fathom wadi
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yeah I never got past the Mage city in Skyrim due to utter boredom

signal citrus
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But yeah oblivion had a better town feel

vast heron
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Skyrim is dead game without mods

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Oblivion towns better

plucky pagoda
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I never got over the lack of being able to make spells like in Morrowind

fathom wadi
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Neverwinter Nights 2 was my jam back then.

plucky pagoda
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Leveling up healing and destruction magic with a spell that burns yourself while healing you was the best.

signal citrus
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Blah marrowind being predecessor to oblivion makes me feel dated lol. But yeah marrowind was one of those excellent games that are real difficult to revisit

pearl elk
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sorrowind

plucky pagoda
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Fast travel that doesn't have an ingame mechanic that makes sense is also a thing I think hurt the sense of scale in those games. Large worlds with a whole lot of nothing. That sense of scale that Morrowind had when it first came out was lost even though the worlds got bigger.

pearl elk
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I liked Darklands cuz your characters could drop dead of old age

vast heron
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Skyrim needed more Random events, better ambushes for player, better AI navmesh AI can't reach you also AI bad at detecting sneaking players, also AI has no good ranged attacks.

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i fixed everything with mods in my playthrough but base game is lacking.

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Bethesda should hire modders because they fix bugs and game better than them at this point. Dont even look at FO76.

zinc matrix
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I have a question. Can you use steam gift cards for the game publish fee?

quiet narwhal
deep glen
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great news though, if you own FO76, (pc version) you can get the steam version for free.

quiet narwhal
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not if you own the Xbox version lol

vast heron
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Very good.

pearl elk
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Spies everywhere ๐Ÿ•ต๐Ÿผ

plucky pagoda
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Unity has had that for a while though. It just seems like their pushing it a little more.

pearl elk
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lol owning FO76 is great news?

deep glen
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:p

vast heron
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I dont have Fallout 76 until its fixed.

plucky pagoda
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or making it easier to find

deep glen
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now you can have a crap game twice!

plucky pagoda
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I think Unity should move to a royalty model.

pearl elk
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twice the crap with 0 polish

quiet narwhal
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yeah they have basicallyt improved it is why they are pushing it again and it makes a ton of sense in this environment @plucky pagoda

plucky pagoda
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Their current model doesn't make them enough money and it leads to policies that piss people off.

vast heron
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Fallout 76 is a bad game i will only buy it for trolling other players as a raider if game gets better with Wastelanders update.

quiet narwhal
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its quite interesting to see how large unity is trying to make the learning part of their ecosystem, rather than trying to do it all in house so much of their learning stuff is co authored or just bought from other people/sites lol

plucky pagoda
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Yeah, they've definitely gone all in on that and the community stuff. There's something about it though that just misses with me. I'm not sure what it is.

vast heron
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Unity is good engine but I prefer Unreal because it is easier to find animators and 3D designers for UE.

plucky pagoda
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Like their discord has a lot of great stuff but it's lost in the shear quantity of scroll.

quiet narwhal
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Epic is trying to keep a standard so I can't fault them for that while Unity can be all over the place since alot of it is general community stuff (even if its high quality)

lucid walrus
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Unity has two Discords

vast heron
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wow

fathom wadi
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I like Epic standards. Until I don't want to use them. Then they get in the way.

quiet narwhal
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heh

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Epic is their own worst enemy for both good and bad

soft night
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we are our worst enemy

plucky pagoda
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I'm really down on Unity right now and it's not the first time. I started using it before they went to the cheaper models, nearly from its start. Looking back even though I used it a lot it was never a good fit for me.

pearl elk
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I am your own worst enemy

plucky pagoda
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I'm really happy with most of what I've seen from Epic the last year.

pearl elk
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Ive not seen as much of Epic this last year tbh

plucky pagoda
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I'm a little concerned with the learn.unrealengine stuff. There's some good stuff there but it's not presented in the greatest way.

fathom wadi
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really? They have been there but mostly buying things for us to use :p

plucky pagoda
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Not the content, but how it's organized.

fathom wadi
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My asset library more than doubled this last year through Epic alone

plucky pagoda
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oh man yeah. That's one thing they could do so much better. Unity has finally added good filtering for your asset libraries.

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Being able to preview the actual files in an asset before buying it is great too. There's a lot assets I've decided not to buy because I could see how they setup the models and it was not good.

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Or plenty I've bought because I could see they included source files

fathom wadi
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I pray for the day we get rid of this launcher for something new. The website version of the store/etc is fine. But the launcher lags like me before coffee. That and they don't let you limit download speeds with it. So it hogs the bandwidth when updating

plucky pagoda
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I just want to be able to organize it

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or use tags and filter by them

fathom wadi
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yeah that would be cool

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Perhaps they could offer some kind of "promoted usage" of the Launcher source code. So people sign an NDA and get to do some PR work on it

plucky pagoda
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I'm sure it'll get there. Too many people want some sort of sorting for it not to happen at some point.

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Even a separate tab for projects and vault stuff would be a boon

fathom wadi
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Dunno man, I've been requesting that download limiter for years and I even went and figured out how to do it myself. It's a quick fix.

pearl elk
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can you use Chaos without compiling your own build yet in 4.25?

plucky pagoda
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No.

signal citrus
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and it doesn't work

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unless you like ice cubes

pearl elk
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Whats the point of even including it then

signal citrus
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one day it will reflect fortnite

carmine frigate
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last time i tried it was 60 shades of broken

vast heron
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Big companies should not use UE they should not be layz and make their own engine, do you think like me.

signal citrus
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eh i don't think that works anymore kirito

pearl elk
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umm dont big companies have their own engines

vast heron
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Mostly yes

signal citrus
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engines aren't so simple anymore

fathom wadi
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@vast heron I agree. Unless they are making an Unreal Engine game, then they should use it

signal citrus
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take a look at square soft

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or enix or whatever

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squenix

plucky pagoda
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There's no reason other than personal interest to make your own engine anymore

fathom wadi
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the engine that they used for Final Fantasy 15 was awesome

carmine frigate
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big companies buy an engine

vast heron
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Atleast they should heavily modify Unreal Engine like Valve did to Quake engine modify it and called it Gold Src Engine.

pearl elk
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ID got so ripped off on licensing

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not surprised they stopped doing it

signal citrus
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aye but calling gold source a heavy mod is a bit of a stretch

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one of these engines is written in c++ lol

plucky pagoda
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I could see working with a more barebones engine to get a better understanding of the concepts, mechanics and rendering but there's free engines of everytype out there now

vast heron
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Gold Source is modified Quake engine am i wrong

signal citrus
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like there is heavy mod and rewrite and its somewhere between

fathom wadi
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I ripped them off and created the Slow Inverse Square Root. Now my framerate is screenshot speed and I feel good ๐Ÿ˜„

signal citrus
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kirito it was started with quake but quake is 100% C

vast heron
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okay

pearl elk
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Quake 2 supports DLLs though

signal citrus
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Not disagreeing but the actual original quake code only exists in the contents of its character really

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quakec was that too iirc

pure marlin
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damn, im not ready for it yet, but teach me in the future sempai marc xD

fathom wadi
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Doesn't source engine have some native quake engine source still in it?

vast heron
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Latest game using Source Engine, Alyx, Apex Legends, Titanfall 2 i think.

carmine frigate
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CS GO BR ๐Ÿ˜›

vast heron
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๐Ÿ˜„

carmine frigate
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u can tell by how crap it runs

signal citrus
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iirc the EA games are based on the ps3 port of orange box EA published lol

pearl elk
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The Quake engine was the only game engine to use QuakeC. Following engines used DLL game modules for customization written in C and C++ from id Tech 4 on.

fathom wadi
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Apex Legends ran sweet.... right as I ran into the hackers that ruined the game :p

pearl elk
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Im sure Valve did alot of work but they didnt use Quake 1 engine it was somewhere in between

carmine frigate
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Alyx is source?

fathom wadi
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source 2 no?

vast heron
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yes

carmine frigate
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so it looks and runs like a turd? ๐Ÿ˜›

vast heron
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Source 2

fathom wadi
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to be fair, how it looks is here nor there. Thats an artist issue these days. Unless people are looking for the latest hot shit in effects that the majority won't notice. The original source was a donkey setup, but it looked amazing thanks to the texture work

vast heron
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VR is the future no more 2D gaming is a funny line i don't aggree with this statement.

carmine frigate
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well 3d is the future of gamin

vast heron
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I hope Valve release Half-Life 3 non VR.

pearl elk
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they expect modders to make a non VR version of Alyx for em, bloody cheapskates

carmine frigate
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the rift is allready kinda dope, lots of room for improvements tho

signal citrus
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Kirito did you play alyx tho?

fathom wadi
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I would prefer AR to take the lead over VR. You can make AR into VR easily, the other way around, not so much

vast heron
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I didn't played cant afford VR ๐Ÿ˜„

signal citrus
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If valve was like: jk hl alyx is hl3

vast heron
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Instead finished Doom Eternal

signal citrus
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i'd be like: "I knew it!"

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because its so god damn good

carmine frigate
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my hindsight skills are amazing aswell

vast heron
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๐Ÿ˜„ Alyx is a solid game but i need to wait for VR prices to go down.

signal citrus
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its beyond a solid game though

vast heron
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10/10 game

pearl elk
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I have a strange feeling like Alyx means we've seen the end of Freeman

signal citrus
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its literally the best handling of a franchise and its material i've seen since breath of the wild

pearl elk
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all future Valve games are gonna be female protagonists

vast heron
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noooo

fathom wadi
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I have a Vive + Index controllers but I feel too sick for VR right now. I get claustrophobic

carmine frigate
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this whole hardware store lock kinda pisses me off tho

vast heron
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I dont want female character I want to be hero not damsell in distress.

carmine frigate
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dont wunna lose my lib if i ever go index or other headset

pearl elk
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gotta be woke

carmine frigate
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so i just dont buy anything

signal citrus
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kinda a dumb thing to say kirito

vast heron
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Hero with largest guns, large muscles, mean look ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine frigate
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freeman was a geek ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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yeah freeman didnt have big enough balls to be a shooter hero

vast heron
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Freeman is a badass.

signal citrus
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alyx is absolutely not that (damsell in distress)

vast heron
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Freeman fight against Tanks, Helicopters, Giant Aliens

pearl elk
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Id argue her balls are bigger ๐Ÿ™‚

fathom wadi
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I dont get how Freeman was just a physicist, but took out a squad of those black ops and ninjas. I mean, I call bullshit.

pearl elk
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all that radiation didnt do Gordon any favours ๐Ÿ˜›

vast heron
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in Alyx even headcrabs can kill you noting like Freeman.

carmine frigate
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read some comments on a tech site about alyx, lot of ppl said they would just watch a youtube playtrough for the story

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pretty sad ๐Ÿ˜›

signal citrus
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||there are references to gordon in the game though, one vortigaunt specifically is obsessed with him||

vast heron
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I watched from youtube because i dont have money but game is very well made, best VR game to this date.

carmine frigate
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lol you cant say

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u just repeat what others are saying

lucid walrus
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I want those almost perfect shadows in Unreal

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Like, those contact shadows are bloody perfect... haven't seen a glitch so far

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Also, the reflections (which I guess are static cubemaps, but still)

pearl elk
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somehow I dont think its the best VR game to date, its because Valve made it plain and simple. I was looking at the metacritic and in just this short amount of time it has so many more reviews than Roborecall

fathom wadi
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I like PokerstarsVR. Its been the only game I consistently go back to except for that little space game in The Lab

pearl elk
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some are even really poor reviews but the pure mass of em has bumped the metacritic

carmine frigate
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also a lot of ppl bought headset for alyx and its the 1st experience

signal citrus
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have you played it spoon?

pearl elk
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People are honestly saying its the best HL game ever

signal citrus
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it is though

pearl elk
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simply because Steam didnt have a ratings system for HL2 or even exist for the first game

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tbh dude the whole IP is stale as fuck

signal citrus
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it retains half life and half life 2 things but pulls it off in vr in a way that makes insane sense

carmine frigate
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HL1 was kinda dope for the time, didnt play 2 much,, both would feel verry dated if i played em now

pearl elk
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Id rather watch another Ridley Scott Aliens at this point

carmine frigate
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cant really compare to ancient stuff like that

signal citrus
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it manages to make the combine feel well designed some how too

pearl elk
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It manages to take their shitty design and make it worse, sure does

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Combine soldiers was my least favourite part of HL2

carmine frigate
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really watching a playtrough like that would make me feel ill real fast

signal citrus
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me too mons

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me too.

pearl elk
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I just dont understand how City 17 even happened really, they just dump you in it and its a fun enough game but Black Mesa was a better location

signal citrus
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it made zero sense

pearl elk
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it lent itself to the alien conspiracy better

signal citrus
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but alyx happens between the two

carmine frigate
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id like to see Fear: Project origin in VR

signal citrus
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actual spoilers: ||though black mesa hasn't been somewhere i've visited yet by playthough||

pearl elk
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Im sure the gameplay of Alyx is awesome but Ive given up on Valve story writers after Portal, that was about as good as it gets

fathom wadi
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HL2 felt like a tech demo to me. I had more fun in the leaked dev kit

signal citrus
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all i can say is that everything of hl alyx feels executed with great thought

carmine frigate
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yea same, i didnt like HL2 that much

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totally gunna play alyx

signal citrus
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like the franchise really really feels like it made up for hl2 in it

fathom wadi
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me too if I live through this ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
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Im honestly not that interested in VR

signal citrus
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that was my position before it too

pearl elk
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Not this janky plastic bits everywhere VR anyways

signal citrus
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i haven't played a ton of vr games to be fair

carmine frigate
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in VR stuff up close is super dope, but far away gets pixelated

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the extra pixel on the other eye wont add much than

pearl elk
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Im more looking forward to it when its worth it, maybe 4-5 years

carmine frigate
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yea a few years wil prolly improve a lot

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that 2080 in console might help aswell

signal citrus
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feel like hl alyx brought it to that point already but i really am starting to drone on that

pearl elk
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Im hoping by then you'll be able to move using brainwaves rather than fucking with teleport

carmine frigate
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@signal citrus what headset?

signal citrus
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broken record but can't help but say how good it is

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i use a quest

carmine frigate
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hmm

signal citrus
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which is 75hz, so not the smoothest experience

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but its got the highest resolution

pearl elk
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you did say you havent tried many VR games though

carmine frigate
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well index would be better

pearl elk
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so what are you comparing it to?

signal citrus
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i usually get nothing out of vr games

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so i'm comparing it to being unsatisified with most other experiences

carmine frigate
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robo recall was kinda dope

mild root
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Im hoping by then you'll be able to move using brainwaves rather than fucking with teleport
@pearl elk unfortunately, it is as accurate as read keyboard input by putting inductive coil next to it and trying to measure a current

carmine frigate
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i kinda like the simple small stuff tho

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prolly started up fantasynth more than 10 times ๐Ÿ˜›

signal citrus
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robo recall was kinda dope

fathom wadi
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Im fine with VR as it stands. People have made some genuinely awesome games in VR that reflects the platform's best features. But the hardware on my face feels like some heffer sat on my face.

carmine frigate
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and it has no gameplay at all

pearl elk
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Robo recall is kinda old now too, from what Ive heard HL Alyx mainly just copies the mechanics from games before it rather than bringing new stuff.

signal citrus
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mm spoon, thing is just picking up items and interacting with the world is near perfect

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like you can say it just took existing mechanics sure

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but nothing does it as well

pearl elk
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Yeah Ive heard its polished

signal citrus
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i've not tried boneworks which is supposed to be good too, but have been told its not as solid

pearl elk
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thing is I never liked the gravity gun, Im not really a woo physics kinda person unless I can shoot it to pieces with a minigun

signal citrus
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its polished to a point where you go in expecting things to not work as well as they do, and sometimes sure things clip and stuff but its less than expected

fathom wadi
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VR needs a little suspension of disbelief to work anyway

pearl elk
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Maybe if they did Garys Mod VR, I could have fun with that but basic physics interactions is yawn

signal citrus
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gravity gloves are dope

pearl elk
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that gravity pickup thing is a VR staple now though

carmine frigate
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there is also VR chat ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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VR Fist of the North Star with chaos physics. Who's with me?

pearl elk
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all Valve did was go, oh we have a reason for that

signal citrus
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i'm sure the game is full of staples but it all works well

pearl elk
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like Epic did with Field Lettuce Generators ๐Ÿ˜›

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I dont need a reason for game mechanics to exist, gravity gloves are a nice touch I suppose but its not gonna make me buy an index

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Id rather pay for a pair of actual gravity gloves, probably be cheaper

signal citrus
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||fast head crabs, the long legged ones are introduced to you in the worst possible and nightmare enducing way. like they just really execute things in ways that is shocking to think they'd go there in vr. Like not afraid to put you in some really uncomfortable situations||

fathom wadi
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the index are fantastic tho

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they really change your VR experience

signal citrus
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also made of unobtainium

carmine frigate
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lol

pearl elk
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gotta understand I grew up in the arcades we had pretty good gun controls

fathom wadi
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I can flip someone off in VR. That's worth the ยฃ250 price tag :p

signal citrus
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i grew up with arcades too

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i have a time crisis cab

carmine frigate
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i had duckhunt on the 8 bit

signal citrus
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hl alyx is more fun

carmine frigate
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ow yea timecrisis with 2 guna was amazing

signal citrus
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ACTION

carmine frigate
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sega saturn

pearl elk
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we'll see, we'll see if people have Alyx and an index for as long as those Timecrisis cabs are sticking around shall we ๐Ÿ™‚

fathom wadi
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@signal citrus I made a Time Crisis in VR prototype. I never got to finish it because it got to "needs money" stage but it was good fun

carmine frigate
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friend had a saturn and lend 2 guns for a friend from time to time

signal citrus
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tbh that time crisis cab is impressive though, the tube on it, below the mirror is some how super sharp

pearl elk
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I get it, its hip dope and cool, the real mccoy n anyone who's anyone has played Alyx. Flood the market with VR selfies n whatnot

signal citrus
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do have to dust it off sometimes

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eh i'm trying to say its not just hip, i sense that that is your impression that its a fad

pearl elk
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Im just an old washed up guy who prefers Doom

signal citrus
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lol

pearl elk
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I think its one of the most skillful games on the market to date

fathom wadi
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I need to do maths in my games so I play things like Path of Exile ๐Ÿ˜„

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Did you know the French Government once released a kind of simulation/game based on fixing the economy so they could get new ideas from people? ๐Ÿ˜„

signal citrus
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i do like games with skill for sure. like tony hawk where everything just devolves to score multiplier and stuff

fathom wadi
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https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/educational-games/economia/html/index.en.html another one but it's flash so beware

pearl elk
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I really loved Half-life when it was released, it just upped the ante for every FPS after it

fathom wadi
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it was a worthy single player game at a time when people were still getting use to mouse and keyboard for FPS games

pearl elk
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The way the demo was a full stand alone episode, got you into the action and gave you a taste of things to come. The train ride didnt seem like such a slog off the back of that

fathom wadi
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Did you ever play the PS2 version of Half-life? They added an aimbot because console players = noobs :p

signal citrus
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PS2 version was a port of the DC version

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right?

pearl elk
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Having NPCs you can get to follow and help out, you could really use them to your advantage in some spots. The set pieces, the levels were linear but they didnt feel like your modern linear "cinematic" games

fathom wadi
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no idea tbh. I still played it tho ๐Ÿ˜„

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I think Gearbox did something with it. IIRC

signal citrus
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yuck

fathom wadi
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or was it the turtle people

signal citrus
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probably gearbox

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turtle people did cscz, l4d

fathom wadi
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ahh yeah it was gearbox then

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yeah looks like it was the cancelled dreamcast version re-factored

pearl elk
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Gearbox did Op4 too

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rope which moved like rope man, such amaze

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any rope in HL Alyx?

signal citrus
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i'm glad halo mc didn't use the gearbox port of halo

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much rope

pearl elk
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can you strangle enemies with it?

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or hang one up use it as an ambush

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oh right I forgot, HL is all about ambushing you

fathom wadi
signal citrus
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don't have to go all the way to england to find scumbags

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that is horrible though

pearl elk
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This is why I dont trust too easily

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Makes you wonder if its always been like this or if there was a time when you could invite strangers into your house without getting screwed over

fathom wadi
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yeah in England there was. I was born in the tail end of it. We used to know everyone in our local area, and we all helped each other out with things like hand-me-down clothing and if someone was in real trouble, someone was always there to help. Now its like people don't make eye contact in case they have to talk to each other.

pearl elk
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I grew up in a small town where everyone knew everyone so there wasnt really any strangers

fathom wadi
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there were around 10,000 people in the town I was born. Only small. Can walk the entire place in 20 minutes

vast heron
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Scumbags in every country and every city.

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I grew up in a big city I don't like big cities because everybody living here was a zombie before virus also new generation only looking phones when walking and its disgusting.

pure marlin
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soon displays will be glasses, they wont need to look on a device xD

vast heron
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They should put a microchip to their neck so they can accessed by Google Data Analystics :d lol

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New google service google tracker, you will get discounts and forced ads to your brain

pearl elk
#

yeah no need for optics at all, brain interface

pure marlin
#

forced add dreams xD

vast heron
#

adblock brain edition

pearl elk
#

waste of power rendering all those graphics when you could be encoding it directly

vast heron
#

wow

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Soul Translator right here

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You will be hooked to Matrix

pearl elk
#

you know what the best part is?

#

time is relative so you could play 1000hrs in 10hrs if you speed up the simulation rate

fathom wadi
#

digitising faces on your sexual partners when you get bored? ๐Ÿ˜„

pure marlin
#

can the brain keep up with the speed ๐Ÿค”

pearl elk
#

sex is already obsolete

fathom wadi
#

the brain works at around 5000 wpm so probably does ok

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the subconscious probably works faster tbh

pearl elk
#

once a population reaches a certain density it forms natural barriers to procreation

fathom wadi
#

no virtual machine translating ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
#

you see it with fish for example

soft night
#

Monsium is new currency

fathom wadi
#

Affluence kills population increases. Poverty increases it. So if we want balance, we must redistribute wealth. Just sayin' like :p

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bear in mind, im on child #5 so I've probably made up for someone else ๐Ÿ˜„

pure marlin
#

we shouldnt need wealth at all. I mean at this state we are right now, we would be able to create a world sharing ressource system and free energy through natural ressource for all. No worker needed once maschines are established. Just free time for everyone xD

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kinda utopia

pearl elk
#

it'll never happen while greed exists

pure marlin
#

sadly yes

vast heron
#

Virtual Reality world without dying please.

fathom wadi
#

Oh dear, Massive/Ubisoft. Your first mistake was the game. The second mistake was asking me what I think about it. Game on.

vast heron
#

Virtual World of Division 3 if you die in game die in real life ๐Ÿ˜„ died to a glitch Ubi!!!!!!!

fathom wadi
#

I love how they made this game, and put a character creator for your face at the start, and first thing they do, make you grind for masks.

pearl elk
#

sounds like NYC might actually be run by warlords soon

#

they have more money than Trump or the mayor ๐Ÿ˜›

carmine frigate
#

lol trump asking mexican druglords for help would make my day

fathom wadi
#

ROFL. There isn't enough players in the game to do this unless they only wanted 10 opinions. Obviously people have been calling then twats out ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine frigate
#

they have some slick labs tho

pearl elk
#

and a good supply of medical masks ๐Ÿ˜‰

#

I really want him to release a fragrance

#

called Elons Musk

vast heron
#

Elon Musk will destroy the virus using Nano Tech

fathom wadi
#

As long as it doesn't catch on or my friend "Mike Fartzinnabottal" might get in on it

vast heron
#

Nanomachines son, they harden response physical trauma, you can't hurt me Jack!

pearl elk
#

Callum Murray might get in on the fragrance scene too

deep glen
signal citrus
#

i've yet to understand how material editor picks what material functions to show me lol

#

when i search for them with right click, must be just ones that are loaded into memory or something

pearl elk
#

yup

#

found this amazingly old article the other night

vast heron
#

I hope we get Next Gen Destruction in new AAA Games.

#

Think about it casting a spell in game making Earth Quake wipe out half of enemy military force ๐Ÿ˜„

#

We need Red Faction Destruction on Streoids

fathom wadi
#

It's almost like the UK Conservative party policy in action.

pearl elk
#

And everyone acts like there was nothing we couldve done in advance to prepare

vast heron
#

This is not a virus, this is a biological weapon but i don't know who made it.

fathom wadi
#

Shit man you should goto the UN and WHO and tell them. They presume its a mutated form of SARS-Coronavirus. You should let them know you solved the puzzle and ask whoever made it to give us the cure eh.

vast heron
#

I know this is a virus but its a man made virus.

pearl elk
#

Yeah if you ask nicely theyre sure to provide the vaccine

fathom wadi
#

you know this... no you don't.

vast heron
#

Whatever after this virus outbreak is over say good bye to EU. EU will collapse i think.

#

EU is not prepared for this outbreak.

fathom wadi
#

Yeah that grouped up solidified set of countries who ally together will collapse in the new socialist world.

zinc matrix
#

Now you know it's all lie. Zombies doesn't exist.

pearl elk
#

Too Fast 2 Train to Busanius

fathom wadi
#

@deep glen LOL i saw that dude and almost replied. But im learning...

vast heron
#

World will not be same after this virus outbreak i am expecting lots of countries collapsing.

fathom wadi
#

cool you should start making a new map of the world then

vast heron
#

This is a bad thing

#

Nobody wants world burn lols

plucky pagoda
#

idk, thinking about buying some puts against the NWO

#

is that on the New York Exchange?

deep glen
#

every second that passes changes the world so much its not the same as it was the second before.

fathom wadi
#

@plucky pagoda Knowing the NWO, they would buy put options on themselves too

plucky pagoda
#

sounds legit

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If it's good enough for congress why should they be left out

vast heron
#

People should prepare for wrost case scenario. Buy supplies, food, medicine and guns.

fathom wadi
#

Maybe this is the real end game for the NWO. Increasing Put option visibility and sales ๐Ÿ˜„

plucky pagoda
#

and mental health insurance

zinc matrix
vast heron
#

We don't know future maybe we will find vaccine for this virus.

#

There is also good scenarios

#

If we keep social distance and wash our hands we will be safe, if everybody follow rules there will be less cases.

fathom wadi
#

yeah until it mutates and/or goes airborn

deep glen
#

"Buy guns"
how muricah of you

pearl elk
#

What if its already airborne and the governments of the world are lying to you?

pearl elk
#

I thought 5G was how China was reading everyones thoughts

deep glen
pearl elk
#

or maybe they changed their plans cuz they read my thoughts ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

aged care is one of the most expensive things globally

zinc matrix
#

Block unknown phone numbers and you should be save @shut bloom

pearl elk
#

theres only one or two things more expensive, one of em is military and they wouldnt cut that budget

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cuz we could all die of virus but noo we still need thousands of tanks and fighter jets

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lol if everyone dies of virus I will try my best to enjoy as many of those tanks as possible before I die

fathom wadi
#

if I die before Cyberpunk 2077 comes out, im coming back as DLC

pearl elk
#

it'll probably get delayed like everything else

#

Last of Us 2 is delayed indefinitely ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

zinc matrix
#

They are waiting, in a year or two they will have opportunity to add based on true story

plucky pagoda
#

I'm going to try out the UWP build @EvoPulseGaming#2712 has been working on. It looks like you can publish straight to Xbox One through your partner account with it.

zinc matrix
#

@deep glen if you have some spare time google all roads lead to dark winter

vast heron
deep glen
#

im working on making my mat-functions marketplace ready atm, might check later

fathom wadi
#

im working on... procrastination apparently.

plucky pagoda
vast heron
#

Destroy Uranus

fathom wadi
#

"Frodo ! When I said we had to destroy the ring... I didn't mean that !"

plucky pagoda
#

oh....

fathom wadi
#

"The rise and fall of Risey Falley"

vast heron
#

Why she is not wearing body armor and helmet

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also groin protectors are important you know

fathom wadi
#

I've come to hate third person. I think it's stupid. Fortnite taught me that. I mean, who the fuck aims a weapon whilst trying not to get your back in the way of your aim.

vast heron
#

Third person only good if you playing as a female character.

fathom wadi
#

dude the 1950's are that way --->

quiet narwhal
#

I prefer third, gives me more awareness

plucky pagoda
#

Depends on the game the more important story is the more I tend to prefer third person

vast heron
#

I like Ghost Recon's Third Person.

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also Gears of War

fathom wadi
#

@quiet narwhal thats another thing. Looking around corners of being extra aware from unfeasible angles. It detracts from gameplay to me. If I want to kneel behind cover, I dont want to see over the cover unless I look with my head, but TPS ruins that

vast heron
#

Thirdperson Shooters will be awesome with VR in future.

plucky pagoda
#

...

fathom wadi
#

Fortnite for example, you land, you see someone, so you hide, but they can use TPS to exploit looking into houses and around corners. Its annoying ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
#

@vast heron well if you see how fast china recovered and how it offers help to everyone (after payment) then its normal to think something is going on..

#

also the fact that they knew about it since at least december but maybe evne november.. makes u think they expected such situation and prepared before for it

#

and the fact that they make their numbers smallers to make WHO and the world think that this flu is not dangerous at all

azure chasm
#

Skyrim did it best tho

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First person + 2 third person modes

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Turn towards movement direction and strafe(combat) mode

#

We dont have a budget for animations (makes first person game)

quiet narwhal
#

ESO has the same basic setup, first or third and when it combat it goes to strafe. I really enjoy it. Doing the same for my stuff but adding in lock on for combat

lucid walrus
#

I loathe that I get sick from first person these days... I won't be able to play Cyberpunk 2077 ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

vast heron
#

@zinc matrix I aggree with most of the points. FPS game with optional TPS is good for RPG/Open World.

azure chasm
#

Yeah in unreal its fairly simple to add that mathew... which is why i wonder why more games dont have that

vast heron
#

Thirdperson camera is not hard to do. But most FPS games does not include third person animations for characters.

azure chasm
#

True, with third person comes that workload..

fathom wadi
#

well technically you can reuse the anims you would do for other NPCs anyway. #cheap

deep glen
#

gf is watching a 2019 dance festival on tv with speakers loud.
I have meditative asian flute music on my noise canceling headset.
#relationshipgoals

fathom wadi
#

My son is blasting Jack Sceptic Eye videos whilst he eats his dinner. My wife is playing Farcry Primal. I'm procrastinating. I need to get my life in order.

azure chasm
#

Im

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Watching frozen

#

๐Ÿฅถ

fathom wadi
#

jesus dude. Let it go. Let it go

azure chasm
#

Enjoyed primal a lot... i like how they have their engine really locked down just switch assets around and boom a new game

deep glen
#

basically the only difference is control over the dither size, and dither-noise.

#

Im not smartypants enough to make it "cheaper"

#

(its the same cost)

azure chasm
#

Dithered temporal AA ?

#

Where this Luos

deep glen
#

material node

azure chasm
#

Link

deep glen
#

its always been in ue4

azure chasm
#

I means

#

Ohhh

#

Whats it called

deep glen
#

ditherTempAA

azure chasm
#

Ah ok

deep glen
#

for some unknown reason

azure chasm
#

Thats the one i use?

deep glen
#

yuz

fathom wadi
#

reminds me of my first love

mild root
#

as long as everyone at home. do reroute nodes count as virtual machine call (in usual bp, not materials)? It might be funny if they did

fathom wadi
#

it would get compiled out for sure

vocal vapor
#

I kinda wish there was an easy way of having a standard low res dither but I'll figure things like that out eventually.

zinc matrix
#

anime

#

is the future

zinc matrix
#

@zinc matrix lol

#

anime is like upgraded cartoons

#

or more mature

crimson egret
#

Chinese cartoons

rich quiver
#

disney early year where doing alot anti propaganda movies

pure marlin
#

isnt there an easy way to understand what ue wants so i get the result i want xD

raw rose
#

Is there a model viewer similar to windows file explorer? with thumbnails or whatever

signal citrus
#

visual studio

pure marlin
#

:.(

#

nope, im one of these poor ppl too xD

#

ue makes me feel dumb :.(

#

i do understand the concept of what i want to do, but im still not able to make it xD

fathom wadi
#

All knowledge is acquired before it is known. Keep drilling those manuals and testing prototypes and you will get there.

pure marlin
#

can i bother you for a minute marc ? xD

fathom wadi
#

yeah whats up

raw rose
#

Just need to finish a game at all ffs

tulip orbit
#

yeah I know the feeling ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

raw rose
#

I think I'll get a lot done once the blender addon is released

#

No more janky solutions

tulip orbit
#

that'll be nice

raw rose
#

Rigging and animating is so bad right now

tulip orbit
#

I just wanna be able to produce animations and meshes for the default ue4 skeleton without having to fight with retargeting and blender

fathom wadi
#

Mr Mannequin does the job tho

raw rose
#

Not a solution though

fathom wadi
#

why isnt it a solution if its the best solution currently?

raw rose
#

Because if you want to make custom characters they have to be exactly the same

fathom wadi
#

thats not something I think the Mr.Mannequin tools are for though so I guess your right. Could always use Maya or 3ds though and it will be fine

raw rose
#

Too expensive

#

$30/mo is STEEP

fathom wadi
#

not really if you only need it for a month

#

could find a friend with it I guess

tulip orbit
#

its too expensive :p

hearty cliff
#

Hey guys, I am working on a little project that a friend at a game dev company gave me that is in c++ dealing with memory pool stuff. I was wondering if there is anyone on here proficient in that subject of c++ that would be willing to help me out?
I would go to the programming room, but i know that that is meant for UE4 programming specifically
and this is standard C++

fathom wadi
#

please dont cross post. I think they might tell you off

hearty cliff
#

yeah this is the only channel I posted in

pure marlin
#

yeah, i posted in blueprint this time. waiting to see if someone will/can help me out too xD

tulip orbit
#

@zinc matrix every attempt I've made to put a custom mesh on the default skeleton has failed spectacularly, from blender

fathom wadi
#

@hearty cliff then where did I see your other post?

hearty cliff
#

I have no idea @fathom wadi I don't even think I have posted it in another server

raw rose
#

What is the workflow though? There aren't any good tutorials on it

tulip orbit
#

^

fathom wadi
#

@hearty cliff thats crazy. I literally read your post before you posted it. Hence my advice.

hearty cliff
#

I do appreciate your warning though. I do try and stick to the rules as best as possible. But sometimes I don't even know that i am doing something wrong until I am told

fathom wadi
#

hey its no bother. we just help each other keep the server clean ๐Ÿ™‚

plucky pagoda
#

Todays lesson don't' forget to add a command line parameter before starting a nice long build.

fathom wadi
#

whats confusing me now is, did I time travel?

tulip orbit
#

yes

hearty cliff
#

It's very possible

fathom wadi
#

no seriously I read that about 5 minutes before you posted it in here. Probably in the main Unreal Engine channel

#

if I didn't, then im going fucking mental

pure marlin
#

nah i thought seing his message too xD

plucky pagoda
#

could be both

raw rose
#

I've done tons of research, I know how to rig and weight paint. Blender just does not play nice with UE4

pure marlin
#

but on the other hand, im pretty sure my mental health isnt the greatest xD

raw rose
#

No it doesn't. I promise, it does not

fathom wadi
#

Blender doesn't work with UE4 properly for bones. They come in with the wrong rotation

#

its a longstanding issue

raw rose
#

Yes exactly

#

That's why we need the new addon

fathom wadi
#

or one of the old ones, or to use mixamo and retarget etc etc

#

I like the 3ds CAT rig method myself but I wont use 3ds anymore

#

yeah the entire community is wrong and Epic are too for making the fix

#

jesus h christ

raw rose
#

You'll have to make a tutorial on how you magically got it working with no issues

fathom wadi
#

no direct import. You can retarget anything from anything no matter the DCC

raw rose
#

We're talking about, export the mannequin to blender > remove the mesh > make your own mesh > apply the skeleton to the new mesh > import it back into UE4 > test animations

#

The bones will be rotated in blender

#

Can't

#

It has to be that skeleton

tulip orbit
#

no, the skeleton straight out of UE4 into blender. Just trying to add a new animation, everything comes out wrong

#

its something to do with blenders import/export of the fbx format

fathom wadi
#

its a Y-forward issue for bones.

raw rose
#

In order to make compatible characters, they have to use that skeleton

fathom wadi
#

doesn't have to but it makes for easy retargetting without farting around

tulip orbit
#

tried 'em all, nothing works. Only thing I have tried yet is mr mannequin, but I"m just gonna wait for the offical tools from epic now

fathom wadi
#

should probably read again. It's a Y-Forward issue for the bone rotation where UE is X-Forward.

#

yeah but people want their marketplace animations to work

#

well its not really that different. They just have a hip and root where UE has a root. But that needs a script to retarget from blender too

north torrent
#

Best thing to do is just use the UE rig for everything ever.

pure marlin
#

sad newbie noises

signal citrus
#

eh would recommend against mannequin rig in blender

north torrent
#

Did you see the TV I inherited, Mr. Soulless Pat?

#

Heaviest TV ever...

signal citrus
#

tube?

north torrent
#

It is a CRT but it is 16:9...

#

Super odd...

#

No bubble screen, which was common among late model CRT tvs...

#

It has a USB port on the side. I haven't checked the back yet...

signal citrus
#

haha yeah i've got a flat crt as well. but haven't seen one in 16:9

#

what is the resolution?

north torrent
#

I had one back in the day.

#

I haven't turned the thing on or plugged anything in...

#

I kind of just went into the apartment, made sure they cleaned the place, and then left to go sign papers and get my internet set up.

#

There is also a super heavy solid wood desk in the second bedroom, perfect for my ultrawide whenever I get that thing back...

pure marlin
#

more sad newbie noises

pearl elk
#

Even 3dsmax has issues with bones in UE4

#

you cant scale anything or it comes out wrong, the bones have to be created at the scale you need them in UE4

#

I blame Epic relying on Mayas transform too heavily ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
#

Poor CRT neglected for the internets ๐Ÿ˜›

deep glen
mossy nexus
deep glen
#

"Its better to use a scarf, as its thicker"

#
  • Trump
mossy nexus
#

Yeah, true but not as thick as the President ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine frigate
#

put something thick on ur face? ๐Ÿ˜›

mossy nexus
#

Thinking of making some Trump masks now, they will protect people better as they are thicker.

deep glen
#

XD

north torrent
#

People in Shanghai are all outside shopping today.

pearl elk
#

Maybe Trump needs alittle history lesson about why the CDC exists

north torrent
#

They were out of stock on internets though...

mossy nexus
#

Trump needs a history lesson period. That and a maths lesson, grammar, any of the sciences...

pearl elk
#

lol I think he'd fail high school

mossy nexus
#

He probably did. But money.

pearl elk
#

not for the lack of trying though, he'd probably try to bribe the headmaster and that doesnt work try to get him fired ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Anyways quick topic change... what are peoples most favourite FPS Arena levels of all time?

zinc matrix
#

@north torrent why is your chinese house made out of stone ??

north torrent
#

As soon as they see a white guy walk into the internet store, they put up an out of stock sign.

#

I left and look over my shoulder and they took the sign down.

mild root
#

No bubble screen, which was common among late model CRT tvs...
@north torrent you can make various crt displays, but if it is not bubble one, the deflection system has to be smarter and smarter, while the geometry of screen diverges more and more from bubble

north torrent
#

16:9 in a CRT is what I find most odd.

zinc matrix
#

@north torrent thats crazy

#

are you sure tho

north torrent
#

I never say anything if I am not sure.

#

Just like I am sure you are Karol.

zinc matrix
#

nope

mossy nexus
#

I know a Karol, he's Polish. It roughly translates to Charlie in English though ๐Ÿ˜„

north torrent
#

There is this burger place in Shanghai called 'Taco'.

#

They do actually sell a taco, but you can only find it on the secret menu.

mossy nexus
#

lol secret menu?

north torrent
#

Well, it isn't all that secret. It is just hidden down at the bottom of the app under the sections like 'extra napkins' and stuff like that.

#

But they have like 20 types of Australian beef burgers.

mossy nexus
#

That's... a lot.

median wraith
north torrent
#

Did I tell you about the chickens I saw yesterday, Mr. Hevedy?

zinc matrix
#

i need a tool which starts recording my webcam for x minutes while pc is on sleep

north torrent
#

Sounds like an oddly specific thing with very niche use cases.

zinc matrix
#

doesnt sound niche at all

mossy nexus
#

Really? How many people want to use a webcam when the PC is on sleep and can't actually use a webcam? ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
#

the webcam can still save files. ssd is under power

#

its not turned off

#

if me outside, record video if motion detected

#

^ this is what i want

#

doest need to be in sleep

pearl elk
#

sounds like spyware

tulip orbit
#

security camera software

soft night
#

sound like monsWare

zinc matrix
#

mensware?

pearl elk
#

men dont swear what you talkin bout

zinc matrix
#

no

#

mens ware

mossy nexus
#

where they are

pearl elk
#

Doo Maternal

zinc matrix
#

what is a good spycam software

mossy nexus
#

This has now become a little creepy.

zinc matrix
#

if me outside, record video if motion detected

pearl elk
#

If me inside dont record my motions

zinc matrix
#

.. are you done?

#

๐Ÿ™„

mossy nexus
#

if me outside. Lock doors.

zinc matrix
#

give me a good spycam tool

pearl elk
#

please

soft night
#

corona from sun

mossy nexus
#

no, use google yourself if you want to spy on people.

soft night
#

is wathing us

zinc matrix
#

@mossy nexus they are spying on me

#

creeps

pearl elk
#

Someone please tell me an amazing FPS arena map

soft night
#

make one

pearl elk
#

Im trying to, just trying to work out what people like most ๐Ÿ™‚

#

Im going for verticality over size

north torrent
#

Only first person shoot shoot game I really played much was Halo 3...

pearl elk
#

Oh so your opinion doesnt matter then hehe ๐Ÿ™‚

zinc matrix
deep glen
#

jesus, someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to spend his valueble time ranting.

zinc matrix
#

its a whole subreddit

pearl elk
#

All Ive seen Epic do in recent times is giving away so much to the gamers, to the developers, to everyone

#

Tim Sweeney is like there with hundreds and everyone else is on stripper poles dancing. Whats not to like?

#

Meanwhile Gabes steaks have grown to 2 tonne large and are being delivered by truck ๐Ÿ˜›

zinc matrix
#

delivery game for free EPIC store

signal citrus
#

Easy fix: buy off the subreddit moderators. seems to be what everyone does

zinc matrix
#

what?

pearl elk
#

so basically while reddit is the internets front page

#

its also its rear end

zinc matrix
#

i hate world war z game

#

what is that crap

#

enter a game with oher real players. and fight the zombies in the !arena! thats it

#

i thought this is supposed to be for l4d fans

#

but its more like fortnite

pearl elk
#

Its for WWZ fans cuz theres plenty of other zombie IPs cuz zombies are generic AF

zinc matrix
#

excuse me

#

l4d is not generic

#

l4d and dying light are the highest form of games

pearl elk
#

I prefer Dead Island Riptide

zinc matrix
#

too arcade/cartoon/call of duty -y

pearl elk
#

I dunno I thought the story was far superior to either L4D game

#

which are basically LulZ run to safe room

zinc matrix
#

o.o

#

at least the zombies in l4d dont look like arcade call of duty mod

#

and in dead island the zombies are too strong/fast

median wraith
#

Dying light

pearl elk
#

Theres a section in Dying Light which is a direct rip from Dead Island

#

you come up from the sewers into a hotel

#

same level just slightly different layout

zinc matrix
#

and you forgot to mention that DL is a lot more fun

#

more realistic

#

better looking

#

better story

#

but which hotel u talking bout?

pearl elk
#

Nah no where near a better story, its got some great characters but the parkour thing gets old fast. The maps designed really well in some spots just terribad in others

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The single player story bits are too forced, Riptide has far better coop

zinc matrix
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you play coop story? how is that possible

pearl elk
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Im hoping Dying Light 2 will fix alot of the problems I had with the first game

zinc matrix
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i hope vr dl2

signal citrus
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I wouldnโ€™t count on it releasing within years

pearl elk
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Im happy to wait for it, as long as I dont spend the entire game on roof tops lock picking chests ๐Ÿ™‚

median wraith
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Don't think dying light 2 will be better than original

signal citrus
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Well they went from 2020 to โ€œI donโ€™t knowโ€

pearl elk
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yeah it was being delayed well before this whole thing started

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same with Last of Us 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 tbh

signal citrus
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These had dates though

pearl elk
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yeah true, Dying Light 2 is a technical challenge with the multiple path thing though

zinc matrix
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virus perhaps

signal citrus
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Was delayed in January so they would have been way ahead of the curve

zinc matrix
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thez are

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thez are polish >sunglass

pearl elk
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Im happy to wait as long as they need, to me this is a good sign when a company says we've bitten off a huge chunk, we can do it, just need time.

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Id love to see their character physics netcode tbh

signal citrus
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People are too generous with release date schedules

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Itโ€™s why everyone says they are coming out tomorrow for hype then no one cares when they need more unexpected polishing or testing

pearl elk
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"cinematic"

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this aint no case of the anthems ๐Ÿ˜›

soft night
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singing in games the new century

signal citrus
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Why say your releasing in 2020 months before delaying though

pearl elk
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cuz Publishers are dicks ๐Ÿ™‚

soft night
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so epic games is too?

pearl elk
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Devs probably been tellin the Publisher for ages, we cant hit that date and finally they saw the issues for themselves and listened

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They also gotta make these games work on some pretty weak hardware if theyre releasing on Xbox One and PS4

signal citrus
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Everyone deserves scrutiny though. Canโ€™t just be a free pass everytime, even though that seems to be exactly the case I guess

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Yeah but that isnโ€™t something they canโ€™t include in a schedule lol

pearl elk
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Yeah I get it, it looks really bad and you cant just keep pushing things back with the "when its done" mentality cuz thats not a sign of progress

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Actually Xbox One seems to be holding alot of games up in terms of porting

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Its going to get worse in the future too cuz theres no exclusivity for any Xbox platform, the new one is just yet another platform ontop of the rest to support

signal citrus
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Cyberpunk reasoning was โ€œoh no testing takes time we didnโ€™t think of, our bad. We want best cyberpunkโ€

rich quiver
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due to Xbox One NDA of the game must release on the same day as every other port

pearl elk
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the rumour mill around Cyberpunk 2077 was it didnt run for shit on Xbox One and since it was shown exclusively in partnership with MS... well cant have them lookin bad ๐Ÿ™‚

signal citrus
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Is Sony not the same V4?

pearl elk
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Im certainly not against porting to weaker systems but I dont see why it should hold up PC releases

rich quiver
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no

pearl elk
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Theyre gonna have to loosen up on Xbox One support, let people make it only for One X and Series X

rich quiver
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PS4 port can change date form the original pc game for a example

signal citrus
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Potato mode and done

rich quiver
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in Xbox port you cant do that

signal citrus
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Ah interesting

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Wonder how the cod stuff gets by that

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Probably money

pearl elk
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Its a bad move cuz you end up with rushed ports, Switch is going great with ports cuz those games are mostly already done so no pressure just make the port run the best.

rich quiver
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Sony pay a lot of money to activision for exclusivity

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they do the same for capcom

signal citrus
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Yeah but the new mw2 campaign is a PlayStation 4 exclusive for a month

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So such rule must have some exceptions

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โ€œUnless your call of dutyโ€ for example

pearl elk
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Billions of dollars will do that

signal citrus
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Wouldnโ€™t think cyberpunk be subject to such thing

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The โ€œunless your keanue reevesโ€ policy and all

pearl elk
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yeah but theres also "gamers are idiots" policy ๐Ÿ˜›

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It might have to do with CDPR self publishing along side

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MS were probably begging em to publish it to get that exclusivity

rich quiver
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MS have more then millions if they wanted the cyberpunk in xbox/pc exclusive for short since they deny millions from epic, sony and maybe more. So the game release everywhere without exclusivity

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Epic also need to promoted there own EGS games because the devs/publisher aren't doing marketing at all for there own game

pearl elk
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Im willing to bet Cyberpunk will be one of the biggest sellers ever simply because its going to be available everywhere

rich quiver
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that the point that CDPR want with no exclusivity

pearl elk
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Im definitely gonna buy it on GoG, just because i have accounts everywhere so its not like I need to buy it somewhere else ๐Ÿ™‚

rich quiver
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most of sales will like the witcher GoG and Steam will make of it

pearl elk
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I do get abit of a kick out of Steam achievements, trading cards but its really not much of a value add

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My achievements are spread across so many platforms simply because of exclusivity and whatnot so theres no point. I'll never have a centralized place to go, look at this, all my stuff boom right there

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Maybe GoG will try, maybe Epic Online stuff gets it right, who knows. Its a mess!

signal citrus
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It is online right?

rich quiver
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EOS

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the online api

signal citrus
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But itโ€™s not like hitman 2?

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Where itโ€™s just snoopy online connection to some server? There will be coop?

pearl elk
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Which game are we talking about, Cyberpunk?

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I was under the impression it was SP only with the MP game being a separate thing released later

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but obviously these days SP comes with some live service shit

rich quiver
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MP is year later

pearl elk
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I dont think Ive seen anything about Netrunning so maybe there is some sort of coop in there

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I do like coop but sometimes a game is better without it, like for example horror, its easier to be scared when in solitary because you dont have that comfort of a group

soft night
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we are cyberAnimals now

pearl elk
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cyberAnimal Crossing

soft night
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Unreal CyberEngine

pearl elk
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Netrunreal Engine or NE ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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Heh cool, I thought it might be tricky to show the different heights of the platforms

pearl elk
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I think Arnie might be loosin it in his old age

signal citrus
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he is pretty good in mk11

pearl elk
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lol if he is, he could probably beat me. I try to be good but I suck at that game

signal citrus
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was referring to him lol

pearl elk
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Thats not Arnie

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Its like an old Bruce Willis with hair

signal citrus
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they got someone else to do his voice?

pearl elk
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yeah even made him look slightly just enough different

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Damn the animations in this game are amazing

signal citrus
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still find the combat clumsy but yeah

pearl elk
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I really dislike the fatal blows, wish I could turn em off

signal citrus
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have you seen the joker yet? in mk11

pearl elk
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other than that move I like the rest of it

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the bots always fatal blow and go hyper on me, feels cheap and not skillful

signal citrus
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yeah, idk the timing on that game with attacks is too sluggish

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but the joker is so hyper violent. i don't know how dc approved it lol

pearl elk
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I prefer MKX abit more for the combat but theres some cool combos, characters and effects in MK11

signal citrus
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imo: mk9 was better than mkx, mk11 is slightly better than mkx

pearl elk
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both have stupid collect the crap gameplay

signal citrus
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ye

pearl elk
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the towers are better in MKX though

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MK9 is the one with huge boob Sonja in it isnt it

signal citrus
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its the one with the better combat

pearl elk
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actual breakers

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it sucks when the gameplay is slightly off but the game looks so amazing

signal citrus
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i think with mk series it has to be a conscience decision

pearl elk
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this is why mods are the best, I could make MK11 better with a small mutator

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if you could do a breaker in between the moves of a fatal blow or somethin, or if it were 3x shorter and you could do it 3x

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but one move which can take so much of your health is just stupid 1 shot BS

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Its meant to be some sort of equalizer but if youre that far behind you screwed up to begin with. With good breakers and combos you should be able to do similar in a skillful way which is worth watching more than a canned sequence

signal citrus
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to me it just seems like a way to stick more animation in

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which is what its turned into

pearl elk
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the guns I can handle with alittle bit of lockdown because MK3 had similar and MK on N64 had weapons too

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I dont like it, especially Kano but I could deal with it if it wernt lockdown, fatal blow, lockdown, fatality... bot wins

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More animation is not always a bad thing if its done right, the way they did it in MK vs DC was pretty cool

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I think it should still have input though, its not even a QTE its complete loss of control of your character

signal citrus
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in this context i mean their desire to stuff more animation in for fatal blows detracts from the gameplay

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the gameplay seems to come second

pearl elk
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Yeah it sure does even though the animation system in the game is good enough to handle pretty decent dynamic strings of combos

signal citrus
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yes it comes first ๐Ÿ˜„

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you can definitely have both though yeah

pearl elk
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they totally could, theres no reason to play the same fatal blow over and over again

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its almost like it was added in last minute "cuz its cool" and it fucks the whole game to put it bluntly

signal citrus
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my complaint here is not a lot different than what doom 16 started doing. but there at least its not like 10 seconds of pause lol

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i imagine it was much more of: months of work to get cool animation of icicle in eye socket

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like i doubt they could last minute author all of those things

pearl elk
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well the fatal blows are all pretty weak in visuals imo

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the brutalities are far more entertaining

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I was on the fence with x-rays, I liked em because the gameplay was alright and to do a long one you needed to build it up it wasnt just low health kpow 1 shot

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I was never particular fond of the visuals though, it got very meh after awhile, bit like Sniper Elite

signal citrus
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"people like fatalities, how do we put more fatalities in the game"

pearl elk
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Its possible those blows were xrays then they just made it so theres only 1 type rather than 3 tiers because each fatal blow seems to have 3 different cuts to it

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Thats where you different xray bars would have been previously and you needed all full to do the triple banger

signal citrus
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i didn't care for xrays either though really but yeah fatal blows seem like twice as long

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they do the same thing with ... that other mortal kombat game that i can't remember the name of with dc characters

pearl elk
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MK vs DC, thats the one I was talking about but it was alittle better

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you could smash em through the walls and roof

signal citrus
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nah the other one

pearl elk
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Injustice

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I love what theyve done with Baraka in MK11, I really want to play more of the game but its just so frustrating. The towers even worse cuz of the MTX bullshit, you have to pay for the mods to get past anything

signal citrus
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injustice is the one yeah, they kinda turned mk into just a fan service thing like injustice is

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people do mod mk11 though so maybe you could take a hand at it

pearl elk
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The mobile game is easy as, just swipe directions, I enjoyed it for awhile though until their permissions became overreaching

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Heh cool there is mods, I had no idea

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There was one thing they did in MK I couldnt pass the test your might, turns out you grab and pencil and voila easy as

signal citrus
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lol i found that too

pearl elk
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I was like wtf, this whole time I thought super humans were doing this shit and I couldnt, turns out everyone was bloody cheating

signal citrus
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i'm pretty sure when you start having to exploit the controller to win, like i mean: I don't think really good players can even beat that, nor does the game ever require you to tap so fast.. It seemed like a dumb thing lol

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yeah lol

pearl elk
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I thought it might be some sort of "the pen is mightier than the sword" joke but it was still frustrating ๐Ÿ˜›

signal citrus
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cheating or really good at blood circulation

pearl elk
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they could be 12yr old girls hehe, highly dexterious

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Did you see the new MK fighter, Korona?

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chick wearing blue hospital masks as bikini and a mask

tulip orbit
#

๐Ÿฅฐ

supple pine
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our game trailer just hit 1 mio. views ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

pearl elk
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Whats the game called?

supple pine
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mortal shell

tulip orbit
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ looks amazing

median wraith
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Looks pretty cool

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Look @pearl elk ign.txt ๐Ÿ™ˆ

vast heron
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@supple pine are you developer of this wow.

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Incredible job, I don't like these type of games but your game will be 9/10 material if it's stable 60+FPS on good system without frame rate drops.

supple pine
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Thanks.

vast heron
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Is this game have character customization like dark souls i can buy it ๐Ÿ˜„

pearl elk
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bugger me, that looks amazing

vast heron
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Please do not release games until finished than make good Q/A testing. I want you be successful and good reviews.

fathom wadi
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The narrator of that video really needs a lozenge.

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It reminds me of this utterly brilliant song by Neil from The Young Ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqm3x8rNyuw

Tracks 5 and 6 from "Neil's Heavy Concept Album".

Spoken material on all tracks by NIGEL PLANER with Dave Stewart, Ted Hayton, Rowland Rivron, Simon Brint, Roberta Green and Nick Revell

HORRIBLE ELECTRIC MUSICIANS
Heavy metal drummer Bryson Graham
Flash studio drummer Gavin ...

โ–ถ Play video
fathom wadi
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not sure tbh. Do the interactive objects have sub-interaction? ie. if you were to hover over a DVD player, can you press the buttons?

zinc matrix
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ee

fathom wadi
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๐Ÿ™‚ I get strange from time to time. But my musical library spans every style.

north sequoia
#

I noticed all chaos plugins are on by default in 4.25 (binary preview), does this mean 4.25 switched to chaos for physics?

fathom wadi
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doubt it

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perhaps they are just making so you don't need to compile it specifically. But I imagine it will still take years to replace it. 1, 2, maybe more. who knows. It's the most complex beast the engine has seen since UE4 started really

north sequoia
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I see. Hope its sooner. At least as beta.

stiff crystal
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I hope they don't rush it

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swapping the default physics means it will break thousands of projects that try to upgrade to 4.25 even if it would work "properly"

north sequoia
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The two engines dont interact right now, which is a bit limiting.

stiff crystal
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at this stage it would be a disaster

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never is more likely

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I don't really see why you'd want to mix these once chaos is functional enough

north sequoia
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Didn t they switch physics engines before and it was fairly seamless?

stiff crystal
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they've never had multiple physics engines on the engine at once

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they started work in enabling that around 4.21 or so

north sequoia
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I dont want to mix, i cant really switch normal physics stuff to it. At least not sure how.

stiff crystal
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but if you mean the time when they upgraded from physx 3.3 to 3.4 they just swapped the old physx out on the process

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and man what nightmare it was even with that small changes

north sequoia
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Maybe that, i thought it was using bullet.

stiff crystal
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UE4 users were basically guinea pigs for physx 3.4 as it wasn't even released yet the moment it got swapped in unreal

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this is why you shouldn't use ue 4.13 or 4.14 if you need physics

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Unreal has never used bullet physics

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(stock ue that is)

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I've had bullet running as ue4 plugin

north sequoia
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I need the glorious destruction... and keep the current collisions working the same.

fathom wadi
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4.13 was my nemesis build. Its the worst build I've used

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I dont think they can get rid of PhysX entirely though without something magical. Almost impossible even without a re-write of everything. Imagine the trouble you have to go through. Characters for examples. Pretty much replacing the entire structure of it's physics is like stripping away what makes it what it is.

north sequoia
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Maybe i am not getting something, but if interface is the same, what difference does it make?

fathom wadi
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the big thing is IF there. Perhaps the entry point to engine is the same interface, but the implementation isn't.

north sequoia
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Interface like addimpulse(...) etc... yeah iโ€™d imagine if you modify internal functionality youre boned..

zinc matrix
#

i have

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liver/lung/ pain

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or kidney

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is it coronja?

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how can you even have liver infection

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only toxic thing i eat drink

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is coffee

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and fried meat

analog hamlet
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season of flu it can be any virus not only a corona (has many variants too, not only 19)

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im virulogist, belive me

hidden kindle
#

hello, im thinking on buying a new computer maybe even build it , what would you suggest for 1000 -1500 budget (considering i have a gtx 1660 ti)

analog hamlet
#

1500 beans?

hidden kindle
#

potatos!

tulip orbit
#

Yen

analog hamlet
#

thats expensive stuff

hidden kindle
#

haha "usd"

tulip orbit
#

so toilet paper rolls

crimson mauve
#

hey could i get some help with blue prints in private dms. thanks

gleaming hill
#

We're nearing 2 weeks in lockdown now and already the people I live with are getting insufferable and arguing all the time ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Crappy environment to work in

analog hamlet
#

You can try dig a hole and hide them in there.

gleaming hill
#

@analog hamlet Activities requiring any possibility of danger or search and rescue are specifically prohibited ๐Ÿ˜‰

analog hamlet
#

Well then pretend to be sick they will move out quickly i think. Either way, peace will come. :)

tulip orbit
#

I'm in a big city, but I'm unemployed so no reason/money to leave the house

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cept I have to get groceries soon

fathom wadi
#

Can you not order from Just Eat But Don't Touch?

tulip orbit
#

milk and bread are the two main things I'm getting tomorrow. Rest of groceries are being ordered online for monday pickup

quiet narwhal
#

eep. I basically start my lockdown on monday now that I am out of work. Got the kids as well to deal with for school going back into remote learning. Hoping no one will die before this is over lol

tulip orbit
#

atleast nobody you care about ๐Ÿ˜‰

quiet narwhal
#

heh. wife thankfully still has work

analog hamlet
#

the chances are extremely small to die

quiet narwhal
#

die = kill the kids being stuck at home with them

analog hamlet
#

the chances has been altered significantly but still very low

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be reasonable :)

tulip orbit
#

no

azure chasm
#

when i buy groceries i leaave the non perishables out for at least 4 hours, bring in the milks and colds stuffs and wash them before putting in fridge...

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but

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the science says corona virus can last up to 3 days on plastic

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so idk how safe im really being

tulip orbit
#

a few weeks on paper

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and forever in the freezer

analog hamlet
#

the revenge of freezers has come

azure chasm
#

i believe it though, and thats part of the problem

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because people are thinking everything isfine

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but they are hosts

tulip orbit
#

the only solution is to carpet bomb everything

analog hamlet
#

except if the test is flawed and people are false identified

north torrent
#

The simple fact is, that many places around the world have been able to contain the virus without major outbreaks.

I think it is just a matter of learning from what did work and what didn't work for the places that got hit with it a month ago.

analog hamlet
#

they made report in italy about 88% of dead people didnt actually die of virus damage, but something else. also was something about issues with tests they had falsely identified people.

north torrent
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Or two months ago.

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So the rate of people who died from slipping on banana peels just coincidentally skyrocketed 20x the same time a virus outbreak happened?

tulip orbit
#

well its probably not the virus itself killing, its the complications created by it

azure chasm
#

yes lets not be hasty and blame the virus guys

pure marlin
#

and the fact that the hospitals cant serve ppl when it is already full ^^

analog hamlet
#

Interitus, no i mean literally there was a different reason. these people who die usually have something called pre morbidity, another reason for dying eg cancer. And they die unfortunately on daily basis.

pure marlin
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lol

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abit harsch dont you think xD

north torrent
#

I should go inform the CDC about this cancer thing. I don't think they have heard about it.

analog hamlet
#

They know about it. The problem is with how you read the numbers.

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And how the newspaper feeding it into your head to read it

north torrent
#

Are newspapers still a thing in 2020?

pure marlin
#

we need toiletpaper, so yes xD

azure chasm
#

lol

#

im laughing but im actually out

analog hamlet
#

For clarifying, they close the active cases either the active case deceased or finally healed, and the numbers does not make distinction of reasons. They were tested positive and considered active cases.

north torrent
#

I can send you some. No shortage here.

azure chasm
#

toilet paper is like the new bit coin

#

that... doesnt even make sense...

north torrent
#

Only in one particular part of the world... The rest of us don't understand...

pure marlin
#

0unlike bitcoin, toiletpaper grows on trees :d

azure chasm
#

haha

north torrent
#

Here, toilet paper isn't worth the paper it is printed on.

azure chasm
#

is it even really paper

north torrent
#

Is paper even real?

pure marlin
#

it is not digital, therefore it is real, right ?

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or is made in china products not real ๐Ÿค”

azure chasm
#

half of everything would be not real

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if that was the case

pure marlin
#

is the internet real ?

azure chasm
#

if only companies werent so greedy to exploit child labor and make everything in china

#

i want some organic american made toilet paper

pure marlin
#

dont easy condemn child worker company's , condemn the system, sometimes they need this few cents to survive. Life is so much more complicated :3

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and the funny thing is, it is our own fault all that

azure chasm
#

its our brains fault that we get so easily swayed by commercials