frozen the day you can live from the air
#lounge
primal spoke
damn
median wraith
we was at 15% or so
the more of whole europe I think
expect by this the rise
and the whole economic collapse
europe just give billions to help
primal spoke
Do people have savings or are most check to check?
Lots of Americans live check to check and on credit cards unfortunately.
median wraith
they just skip the payments to self employed people, but the people that have a bussines and have 5 workers
can't stop paying them
so have to fire them all and close
most are check to check
people with savings are the kind of people that is took as crazy the rest of the year
thats probably the 5%
primal spoke
people with savings are the kind of people that is took as crazy the rest of the year
@median wraith what?
median wraith
and then we got these other percentage or richs
primal spoke
crazy people save money?
median wraith
@primal spoke the people that save for tomorrow and is prepared for future events are the ones the people usually make fun of them
but now isn't that fun for these anymore
primal spoke
GTFOH
zinc matrix
We're hearing of another Great Depression here.
@primal spoke the wort is that when this will end, the world will go back to the same shit it was before
this is a great opportunity to really change how everything functions, but I doubt our leaders can see far enough to do BIG STEP and completely remake world, stop this moronic chase for a grow
primal spoke
That has to be an age thing though right?
median wraith
lets see if this total collapses or what happen
primal spoke
@zinc matrix If there is a Great Depression like the 30s then it will change, for better or worst.
primal spoke
We still have policy today from that depression.
The consumer culture is a human condition, IMO, not an economic one.
bold fulcrum
What remains of human, if you remove consumer culture ?
primal spoke
Got those dumpsters from Neiman Marcus though.
bold fulcrum
You can push it, Hevedy! several more fps!
median wraith
that need time and the people won't give the time or power to the ones that deserve it @bold fulcrum
¯_(ツ)_/¯
bold fulcrum
FPS or consumer culture ?
bold fulcrum
Yeah, but what remains if you remove it? Meditating you way out and thats it ?
primal spoke
lol, I misread the previous messages, I thought the broken down building scene was Humanity when consumer culture was removed...🤣
It looked like the answer to the question. lol.
median wraith
@primal spoke actually the other day a person that was scared by all of this, that split the money day to day everywhere because wants to go party etc and is always in safe by their parents money, called me after don't talk with for 5 months because was scared by all this and I calm by this and because the last year I named something alike this will happen 🤔
primal spoke
I think calm is good, but it cannot be to the point of complacency.
median wraith
nobody of the people I worked with called or ping me so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
primal spoke
Some freelancers are contacting me telling me the virus is messing with income.
but other freelancers are telling me they are good and have more work?
median wraith
the hypocrisy is a feature in this country, who pretend to be your best friend then is just a enemy with mask
primal spoke
Spain has an interesting history.
median wraith
thats it, history XD
literally nothing interesting to look at in here other than the landscapes
primal spoke
But the circumstances you are referring to are not country specific, IMO.
People are People...everywhere.
median wraith
yeah well the globalization
neon iris
People are people
median wraith
my computer will dead by this months too it seems
is doing rare things since a month, and don't feel like I can request something as the whole services are collapsed
@neon iris xD
primal spoke
Format.
median wraith
naa, there is nothing to do, the disks are new from last year
neon iris
Hardware prices are about to spike. Consider that
median wraith
but the CPU is 5 years old
and is about dead
are you sure ? after the crisis every price drops
primal spoke
@neon iris source?
median wraith
I mean after the 2008 every price fall
primal spoke
cuz china supply disruption?
neon iris
Yep
median wraith
basically as nobody can pay them ?
neon iris
Not enough supply
primal spoke
No money no demand.
median wraith
yeah you're about true then
neon iris
Also true
median wraith
probably have to request something, I was about wait the new GPUs
but it seems like isn't a good idea
primal spoke
Also, cogs are going to go down on almost everything made in china.
As oil is super cheap.
transportation costs drop also.
But who knows, most the spikes and drops will be caused by irrational behavior, IMO.
Like the Toilet paper shortage.
neon iris
Hoard your precious toilet paper 😜
median wraith
haah
primal spoke
Also, prices will depend on your countries currency as well.
For example, the dollar is rising rapidly and imports will be cheaper for a time.
But US goods may be more expensive.
median wraith
dollar and the bank always win
When dollar cost less than euros, things here cost more
when dollar is over euros everything cost more
primal spoke
Oil wins sometimes, and gold sometimes also.
median wraith
so whatever xd
gold
spain sold all the gold to america
what a fabolous move
now we got toilet paper
deal with it
El Zorro 2020
primal spoke
primal spoke
Used TP...awesome.
median wraith
I mean
there is people that buy water from baths of people
why won't buy used toilet paper too
primal spoke
Gross
median wraith
Do you want to see the police pursuit a guy in a bike
cause you can't go the streets
only if you go for food or work
primal spoke
Thats crazy.
neon iris
median wraith
haha
no jokes
there is an area in this country that sells to america canned air from the town
tulip orbit
median wraith
lol
primal spoke
there is an area in this country that sells to america canned air from the town
@median wraith 😔
carmine frigate
seawater is also a big seller
sand and dirt, both big business
rocks gravel
some1 has a lot of rocks on his property, doesnt like em.. 1 person would pay to get em removed the other starts a selling rocks business
zinc matrix
@tulip orbit how com
actually theres no way to fill these containers without inserting something in cat's....
median wraith
oh its the claps time
tulip orbit
Weee
median wraith
oh, is that procedural gen ?
tulip orbit
Yeah. Its pretty random right now, I should prrrrooobably see if I can get better cave generation, but try some gameplay stuff first
tulip orbit
more of a steamworld dig type prototype
median wraith
thin storm
I bet they can dance their names.
mossy nexus
some naughty words in this so.. NSFW? NSFWAH? https://twitter.com/i/status/1241792642033295360
plucky pagoda
We're under a shelter in place order starting tomorrow at midnight.
Wife's work was still marked essential. 😢
tulip orbit
jeebus. where you live?
plucky pagoda
Ohio
I'm glad they did it. It should have happened a lot sooner.
The likely state of things here two weeks from now is not pleasant. We've had nearly 100 people near us put into quarantine with symptoms. Two nursing homes near us have people with it. One has 32 residents alone with it.
median wraith
in a month they will say
Okay end of the experiment
Now you all feel like a gamedeveloper for a month
😂
dense storm
north torrent
I've been in close contact with about 6,000 people who were flagged as potential carriers of the corona-virus in the past 4 days...
But I still feel fine.
Wonder if I could be carrying it without symptoms. Either way I am locked up for another 11 days.
dense storm
testing projectile movement..
north torrent
Testing it for what?
plucky pagoda
probably better off
zinc matrix
@north torrent do you think
north torrent
No.
north torrent
I don't even have to read what you type, I already know the answer is No.
azure chasm
some people can have the virus
and not have any symptons
did you know some people in africa are immune to aids
anything is possible
thats why
isolation
is so important
douche bag daycare my daughter goes to is still open
obviously we arent taking her
i hope, the good that comes out of this
is that more remote work positions open up
plucky pagoda
I'm still in shock by the number of people who are still being stupid about it. I'm in awe that any daycare would still be open. I understand though the plight of people who need it to work and eat.
quiet narwhal
Thats the catch what do you do if you need daycare but your an essential job
plucky pagoda
Yeah.
north torrent
People still need food, someone has to work at that store or deliver the food to people's doors or whatever.
You can't just tell people, "Starve to death, because viruses might kill you."
zinc matrix
welp you could fast 30 days and its even healthy
north torrent
No.
zinc matrix
yes
north torrent
Fasting isn't healthy...
zinc matrix
its certailny healthy lol
north torrent
Said no doctor ever.
carmine frigate
lol
zinc matrix
then go read reddit/r/fasting
carmine frigate
so true
mossy nexus
Oh, you should have said. It's on reddit. It **must **be true.
north torrent
Hmmm... Reddit or doctors... Not sure who knows more about health...
mossy nexus
You know what happens when you fast? Your body starts eating it's reserves, which not only means fats but also essential vitamins. Your metabolism slows down too meaning when you start eating again more of it is stored as fat.
zinc matrix
should stop reading /r/nasa then according to u
north torrent
Should probably avoid Reddit altogether.\
mossy nexus
you're comparing NASA to a random fasting page? yeah okay
north torrent
If I want to talk to NASA I will not be using Reddit to do it.
zinc matrix
reddit is reddit
mossy nexus
Sure. Read about it in reddit, then go see a health professional like a nutritionist or ideally Doctor. Or for NASA stuff, read it about in reddit then visit the official NASA website. Only idiots read reddit and think it must be true.
zinc matrix
but are you sure?
north torrent
I wish I had a spoon...
zinc matrix
why
north torrent
To eat soup.
north torrent
This hotel room only has those small coffee spoons.
zinc matrix
why you live in hotel
north torrent
I am quarantined.
red basin
Oh shii
zinc matrix
you mean youre infected and theyre legally stopping u from infecting others?
north torrent
That means I am not infected, but they want me to be around as many people who might be infected as possible, so I can get infected.
north torrent
Well, if I am then the corona-virus feels good.
red basin
In fairness younger healthier people might not show symptoms. It’s a small % but still a notable group
red basin
a single case doesn’t disprove my claim of a small % of people not showing signs at all.
north torrent
I've been around thousands of people from dozens of countries in the last few days. All cramped in small rooms or busses or long lines. All of it with people only cm away from touching me or bumping into me. Sharing pens and paperwork, touching the same stuff all the thousands of other people touch.
Touching the pens that the hazmat guys touched with their gloves after touching things that require them to wear hazmat suits.
So if I got infected it wouldn't be a surprise at all.
It is like they are doing their best to try to infect us.
red basin
Is it just because of where you live or are you working with covid response somehow
north torrent
My immune system is ready for a fight.
I entered China and was quarantined for 14 days.
Totally makes sense in theory.
But in practice the bumbling stupidity of how they are running it seems like they are just trying to spread as many cases from international travelers as they possible can.
north torrent
No.
north torrent
I'm going to go invest in the stock market now.
primal spoke
I'm going to go invest in the stock market now.
@north torrent sarcasm or sincere?
zinc matrix
crypto coins prices are so low rn
north torrent
I probably will in a couple of weeks.
zinc matrix
everyone panicks and sells
north torrent
Crypto is never coming back though.
zinc matrix
why
primal spoke
I probably will in a couple of weeks.
@north torrent ok
north torrent
Airline however, people will never stop traveling.
primal spoke
That's more like it
primal spoke
I thought you were talking about right now
north torrent
No, I don't think it is at that point yet.
north torrent
That's one of the two reasons I have never invested in the stock market before.
Things were artificially higher than they ever should have been because of things like corporation stock buybacks and government handouts to corporations. It was never sustainable at that level though.
I was expecting the Dow to drop to the 22,000 range regardless of corona-virus or not.
But 19,000... that's a shock even to me.
But I'm no expect... just a guy using non industry specific logic on an industry I don't understand very well.
primal spoke
Any companies interest you?
north torrent
Well, the airlines in general seem like a good bet.
primal spoke
I haven't really followed airlines. But I know buybacks was the thing with one of them. I can't remember which.
north torrent
Might be worth getting in on Sony or Microsoft before the new videogame consoles are released, just looking at how everyone is stuck at home with nothing to do but play videogames...
But then again, maybe people won't spend the money on expensive new systems and just buy older games...
Flying seems more universally needed.
primal spoke
I'm looking at Starbucks SBUX.
north torrent
Buybacks is the thing with pretty much everyone since Ronald Reagan was president...
primal spoke
They got cut in half.
I don't have a problem with buybacks if you have the cash to do it.
left oracle
invest in companies doing automation
Automation is about to suck up jobs super quick especially now with covid
north torrent
The problem is when a company like GM cuts thousands of jobs to get the cash for a buyback.
north torrent
Automation is a pretty broad thing. I don't think there is a stock that just says, "Automation".
primal spoke
Those system have to be stood up and put in place
left oracle
airlines are a broad thing too
north torrent
I don't argue that automation is going to be huge, just not sure how one would go about investing it in...
primal spoke
Automation will take over anyway, but not in short term
north torrent
I can name almost every major airline off the top of my head.
They all do one thing, fly airplanes.
Simple.
left oracle
Companies creating self checkout kiosks. Xray tech software companies. Automated truck companies. There's plenty. Pick your poison
Even legal work is getting automated
Call center work too
north torrent
I'm just saying that I am not very smart when it comes to this investment stuff, so I wouldn't know what to do.
primal spoke
I agree about automation, but it has nothing to do with the current buying opportunity.
left oracle
You asked what to invest in. The market is not going to be the same once this is all done. work from home will be much bigger once companies see how much they can save by not having big buildings to pay for, desks to lease, security to pay.
And automation will be ramped up. It's already something every ceo in the country is looking into. Basic math shows that is the case.
primal spoke
How does working from home equal automation?
left oracle
it doesn't
But if you think everything will just go back to normal after this, you're foolish
north torrent
Working from home is great because then your students can't smell the whisky on your breath...
left oracle
I work in IT and already people are considering keeping wah long term
primal spoke
What you're saying is, because of this outbreak... the pace at which automation is implemented will increase dramatically.
north torrent
I want to invest in soup.
primal spoke
I can see wider ethical acceptance using this virus as a reason
left oracle
Companies in the US don't give a shit about ethics. They care about saving money.
north torrent
Soup ethics?
left oracle
Thankfully working from home does both
My job had me in the office twice a week, for no reason at all.
I'm wah full time now.
north torrent
I would much rather be at work right now, even though that means no whisky.
primal spoke
Ethics exist but under the law.
The big companies get tax breaks based on employing people in the area sometimes.
No doubt they would automate everything if they could get away with it.
north torrent
But the laws a written by politicians directly bought by the companies that are breaking the ethical codes...
left oracle
Automation already wrecked factory jobs
primal spoke
But take Tesla for example, over automating hurt them.
left oracle
Go look at a car factory. Full of robots that used to be highly paid union workers
left oracle
Not every single employee will be replaced, but a whole lot did
We're still in early stages. Machines are much more consistent than people
north torrent
Can anything be more dangerous that human drivers though?
left oracle
right here in Pittsburgh
primal spoke
A bug in AI self driving code is scary
north torrent
Is there anything on Earth more dangerous than driving a car?
And then Uber... you are getting into a strangers car...
left oracle
I've seen the self driving cars working on streets here around CMU
Thy have someone just sitting there in case they need to override, and an engineer in the other
I also see little delivery robots that send food to/from restaurants. They're kidna cute
north torrent
Like being a drivers-ed teacher, but with AI students...
left oracle
They wait at the lights until it's green. Stay out of your way. Really interesting tech
And drunk/high college kids get food straight to their door
north torrent
I can't wait till they automate upper management at companies. That would save the most money.
primal spoke
I didn't know bots were delivering food already
north torrent
Why automate the guy making $12 an hour to clean the floor? Automate the guy making $15,000 an hour.
left oracle
north torrent
I need one of those in my corona-virus quarantine...
left oracle
that's why I'm saying shits gonna ramp up fast
north torrent
I wonder if I can send a drone to McDonald's...
primal spoke
These companies are all private most likely
left oracle
Why wait until you can hire someone when you can lease a robot for the same cost or less, and the robot doesn't have sick days
left oracle
obviously they break, but you just work out the numbers to make it work. Have service level agreements built into contracts.
Truck driving is the most popular job for those without a college education. Average salary is around 50-60k (yes they an be much higher too)
Deliveries that remain local will still have people for a long while I think. I can see the long hub to hub transports get automated first
burnt cairn
red basin
This covid thing has been terrible for people who already work at home.
Get off the internet and family members need to go back to their daily routines during the day so I can get stuff done again. :p
deep glen
https://i.gyazo.com/1fefd14b0ec86286f13762375cfe0753.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/83e31417bc1b7ca13d3601c8a8cdf951.jpg
finally done, will make a neat video tomorrow :)
pearl elk
lol oh man, beat that boss I was complaining about first go today. Looks like I just had to sleep on it
stone crystal
Which boss was that?
pearl elk
The Marauder in Doom Eternal
pearl elk
its the bit where youre in the small room so its really tricky to put some space between you and it
stone crystal
he's just relentless. I've finished it now and he's the only part i still struggle with.
pearl elk
the shield is odd, sometimes he goes all shield others he opens up far more often so it might just be luck
One time he hammered me with the shotgun about 5 times in a row and killed me
stone crystal
I feel like that's how the demons must feel when they encounter you
pearl elk
lol
I wish I had a shield I could use all the time
Im gonna have to play it again though and find more of these Slayer Gates
stone crystal
doomguy's shield is his shotgun. they can't shoot you if they're dead!
The slayer gates are fantastic, probably the most enjoyable part of the game imo
zinc matrix
Luos will make millions now
abstract haven
doom eternal a lot harder than doom2016
zinc matrix
Is this game idea possible for beginner devs? 1 Hunted vs. multiple hunters. Job of hunters is to find the hunted. The Hunted starts 2 min before the others. It's a map with many vehicles, in a city, village etc. Job of the Hunted is to act like he is a npc human/vehicle. He has to drive and move like a npc. The Hunters can easily find out if someone isn't a npc by watching how they react.
here the game idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COga5rDFZWw
dusky shuttle
So fellow toilet paper users, why not use a regular napkins box?
fluid bloom
ancient ingot
also blocks drains
zinc matrix
HAHAHAHAH
wait. is death stranding not a coincidence?
and covid 19 is neither?
are both projects connected?
@pearl elk
the good news is that after that we will have 100 years break time https://bengalview.com/English/an-epidemic-every-100-years-plague-of-1720-cholera-of-1820-spanish-flu-of-1920-coronavirus-of-2020/
pearl elk
Its the illuminati they are changing presidents
largest coup in world history, we just dont know its happening
deep glen
we had a 13 year old lethally stabbing a 15 year old today
and after people being full heraderp last few sunny days, going outside and enjoying the weather together without regards to distance... odds are we might go on full quarantine/lockdown/curfew really soon.
primal spoke
where is this?
fringe sundial
netherlands
pearl elk
All non essential shops here are shutting tomorrow, heaps of people lost their jobs. Today I went to walk in the post office and was told to wait outside in line cuz only 10 people at a time including staff were allowed inside. Distancing is all well and good but theres still issues with surface transfer
deep glen
iunno, i wasnt there
pearl elk
Teenagers can be crazy, there might not even be a good reason
deep glen
its a 13 year old kid, the other dude probably said something mean like how his pokemon cards sucked
pearl elk
Might have had better Fortnite cosmetics
primal spoke
IDK, where I come from this age commits violent crimes over money and drugs.
deep glen
and where I come from I wish we'd put kids like that up on a wall and taktatktak
zinc matrix
Is this game idea possible for beginner devs? 1 Hunted vs. multiple hunters. Job of hunters is to find the hunted. The Hunted starts 2 min before the others. It's a map with many vehicles, in a city, village etc. Job of the Hunted is to act like he is a npc human/vehicle. He has to drive and move like a npc. The Hunters can easily find out if someone isn't a npc by watching how they react.
deep glen
@zinc matrix you already asked
zinc matrix
😭 u mean
pearl elk
where I come from you either get the gallows or the armed forces
primal spoke
gallows?
deep glen
¯_(ツ)_/¯
primal spoke
thats extreme...
deep glen
iunno, the news-page is yet to update
though once initial report is made, unless it becomes at least clickbait-worthy, doubt they'll update it
pearl elk
they might not be able to say as well, police typically cant comment on crimes involving minors
zinc matrix
y kids dont really think until 25yo
primal spoke
I blame violent video games.
pearl elk
I always think they must be very angry because I had a short fuse as a kid but Im reminded you dont have to be angry to do something like that. I hate humans sometimes
Its obviously Doom Eternals fault
pearl elk
(pretty sure we are being sarcastic)
primal spoke
sarcasm...
zinc matrix
OK.....
primal spoke
games have tranquilized humanity to some extent, IMO.
People do less and play more games.
pearl elk
Well I am happy Ive been training for the impeding demonic invasion
primal spoke
Why try to achieve it in the real world when you can just grind a bit and level up, ya know.
zinc matrix
@primal spoke games give you dopamine so you dont have to show everyone your dominance at school to feel better
pearl elk
Ive learnt alot from games tbh, they are great teaching devices
zinc matrix
ohoh
primal spoke
Cyber bullying though, thats a thing.
pearl elk
You could be an accountant bored at work all day come home and play Eve and its like wait youre doing the same thing just with a pretty skin over the top 😛
primal spoke
And people flip out because of some of these MMO games.
zinc matrix
you can get in such situation either online or offline
pearl elk
is it really cyberbullying or just bullying using all available means?
zinc matrix
2
primal spoke
I lost my lot..."Now I'm going to find you and you and hunt you down in the real world"
pearl elk
please dont, last time that happened a guy was shot for holding a fork
pearl elk
umm, Tim is in isolation, he entered the forest 2 weeks ago and they still havent found him
zinc matrix
my first words in english i learned were not from school but from Tibia and these were sell carling sword 100gp or "hunted"
so mmos can have certainly positive influence
primal spoke
Humans push people over the edge in the game, not the game itself.
pearl elk
push every game to the edge, no limits
primal spoke
I've never heard of someone killing people because they couldn't beat an NPC.
bold fulcrum
The best aspect of MMORPG is clan fights, when they break out to the real world. Priceless !
viscid coyote
I have a dissertation to write in college. It's about technical issues with VR hardware. If some of you wouldn't mind filling out my survey it would be much appreciated! It should only take about 1 minute, thank you https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/RRLFNRN
primal spoke
I think the virus is the nail in Gamestop's coffin.
soft night
most to they bad messaging more than anything
red basin
I dunno, consoles keep GameStop afloat and there will always be market for buybacks and used games
I know I prefer physical copies but that’s a lot less of a thing for PC than it is console these days
soft night
this covid showed how bad they are messaging with they pick of headlines
primal spoke
Gamestop was already declining at a steady pace, and now they were ordered to shutdown all of their stores in US.
Target, Walmart, etc all sell video games and are allowed to stay open. assuming you want a physical copy right now.
deep glen
carmine frigate
yea, mayB stuff should be closed, but ppl could also not go 😛
deep glen
about time people acted like they are potential carriers instead of potentially not
primal spoke
I got kicked kicked out of a gamestop because I refused to let them upsell me. The employee told me I caused him axiety.
carmine frigate
yea thing is, on average ppl infect 2 or 3 others... but the average also counts ppl that hit in the 100s
carmine frigate
thing goes to crap when ppl do their bartending job with 40C fever cuz some event gives them about 60% of their yearly turnover
i do think infection rate can go under 1 while maintaining most of normal life
there are still a lot of free wins
primal spoke
free wins?
carmine frigate
yea like doorknobs u dont touch and stuff like that
can have stuff automated
a lot of interaction is just for the interaction 😛
it never posed a thread and stuff aint build to minimize this kind of risk
primal spoke
close human and animal contact always posed a threat.
Its just a larger and more acute threat currently.
See Flu of 1920
carmine frigate
true, but when ppl see it as a bigger thread normal flu rates wil prolly also drop
you allready have public toilets where u dont need to touch anything, thats gunna be the norm
zinc matrix
that stat on the right was growing by like 0.5% daily
now its growing by 1% per day
i think people arent worried enough
lot of them dont care
until they land on ICU bed
deep glen
yesterday two girls bumped into me, i asked for some distance.
"scoffs pff I dont have corona sir!"
told em I might
mild root
LeTs Go tO cOrOnAvIrUs PaRtY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu4M_G-urqw
fathom wadi
to be fair, they are thick as shit so its best they do
pearl elk
Maybe the coronavirus is just a virus in the computer running the universe simulation
mild root
no, it is just a respiratory virus, but more deadly one
median wraith
I mean god creates them and them join
mild root
probably god did it lol
zinc matrix
maybe we are in computer simulation and the guys responsible for this computer accidentally turned antivirus off
median wraith
don't think god does anything at this point, the simulation keeps going, the whole system take care itself
😂
mild root
atheists always say "if there is a god, why all bad stuff happens". silly dummies, who said, that it shouldn't happen. Yahweh did it many times, purposefully
pearl elk
Maybe God process crashed from using too many threads
zinc matrix
maybe he locked himself out of administrative account
fathom wadi
@pearl elk I literally said that same thing. We are the simulation and this is just a test.
sage tendon
@deep glen on fb people that work in the grocery are whining that customers dont take distance. Meanwhile in the real world: theyre the ones who give zero space when filling. This virus make people nuts
@mild root but atheists dont believe in anything divine, "if there is a god" = agnostic :P
mild root
who cares about their heresy
pearl elk
Maybe people were already nuts n the virus is just proof
mild root
¯_(ツ)_/¯
zinc matrix
at least virus doesnt make our hands rot and fall away
pearl elk
What if the virus only infects you if you believe in it
mild root
😱
primal spoke
What if the virus only infects you if you believe in it
@pearl elk 🤣
Say its name 13 times in the mirror?
its just a living thing trying to stay alive.
like us.
pearl elk
It doesnt discriminate like us though
ancient ingot
Monssssssssssssssssssssssssss
mild root
it is good to live in a small city without large transport nodes. at this point probably coronavirus didn't even rich us, and there is no any panic here. you just go to shop and there is a large supply of toilet paper, nobody fights for it
yet we are prepared
retail works in masks and gloves, and stores smell with sterilizing componds
imagine you don't have to ride subway to get to the workplace, breathing in air of hundreds of people along the way
carmine frigate
got a lil crazy here, but totally calmed down now 😛
ppl hoarded a bit, but store is all full and hardly any1 there anymore
zinc matrix
I live in a city of around 45K, 30 km from Poland capital center, 12km from its edge. I heard rumors about some first crazies. And around 1km from my home we have also quarantined block. Nothing confirmed.
soft night
death is stranding
mild root
fathom wadi
Everyone predicted this. Its literally been in the post for years
the last SARS outbreak, they said the next one would be the world killer
zinc matrix
Assuming it is natural. But as I look at this more and more, it looks like a China Chernobyl situation.
carmine frigate
i doubt its a weapon 😛
mild root
exactly
pearl elk
Yeah good idea, mutate the virus by irradiating it
mild root
no, he means a lie and secrecy on government level, at attempt to save reputation
carmine frigate
i dunno WHO was there pretty fast
mild root
hahaha
carmine frigate
doctors here also have to report if they dont go trough the proper channels here and post some vid
pearl elk
Governments never want to admit their mistakes
mild root
commies are the dark souls of governments
pearl elk
What if an AI coulda handled things better than human leaders
mild root
it could handle economics well with enough trading stats
carmine frigate
people get the leaders they deserve 😛
pearl elk
We can model the spread of virus such as these and use AI to run predictions of future outbreaks
So it knows where to shut down in advance
mild root
it is already well researched area
carmine frigate
get some1 with a fobia for germs and ask how to fix this shit 😛
mild root
the problem is not in lack of knowledge
the problem is in decision-making people
when sick people started to die in china, nobody thought about shutting down air travels worldwide
zinc matrix
What if an AI coulda handled things better than human leaders
@pearl elk you mean yogurt 😉
soft night
we are Unreal slackers we can survive everything
pearl elk
Lol yogurt and chill
carmine frigate
you cant shut down airways unless the general population agrees
welcome to the free world
pearl elk
You actually have to do stuff to get infected, we're obviously too slack
mild root
because some dumb people were too afraid of economic losses
carmine frigate
people from here still went on vacation to italy while it was known to have high infection rates
mild root
you cant shut down airways unless the general population agrees
@carmine frigate there are powers and they are able to do it in few hours
carmine frigate
no1 cared
now general population is scared of the numbers and action can be taken
zinc matrix
@pearl elk have you seen Love, Death + Robots - When the Yogurt Took Over?
carmine frigate
that simple
pearl elk
We still had cruises docking without quarantine well into last week which is why NSW has double the cases of any other state
carmine frigate
there are ppl in power that can do it but wont cuz than they wont be in power, and ppl wil say he is a pussy piece o s 😛
pearl elk
@zinc matrix yup, I got the reference :)
mild root
that's why some countries start to involve military in quarantine control
carmine frigate
yea, thats frowned upon overhere
when u have 100 infected on a 200 mil population you can drive in the tanks
altho it might be the best option
mild root
and why people don't just stay at home. they have internet, electricity and food shops
pearl elk
So many older people out n bout here still, they just dont care
mild root
probably someone just need armed dude yelling at them to go home
pearl elk
Its almost like its an act of rebellion against those young millenials tryin to tell em what to do, taking away their freedom
carmine frigate
we will see, whatever gunna happen its goin to be a massive effort
carmine frigate
hmm an alien attack doesnt seem to bad atm, might be able to capture some transporter tech or something 😛
zinc matrix
it doesn't have to be alien attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGZyRBpMBE
zinc matrix
hello
primal spoke
It took 67 days from the 1st reported case to reach the first 100K cases, 11 days for the second 100K & just 4 days for the third 100K" -WHO
mossy nexus
New reports from Chinese sources suggest the recovery isn't quite what we are told. Business are faking being 'functional' apparently
plucky pagoda
I'm wondering how long it will take for me to get bored with these emotes. I realized this week that for every server I'm an admin on I get 50 free emotes I can use in any other server. This could get ridiculous.
mossy nexus
result!
primal spoke
Gonna get worse before it gets better.
plucky pagoda
Yeah the current rate of doubling in the US is 2 to 4 days.
It'll take 5 weeks of a near total national shutdown to really make a difference.
zinc matrix
ye man
fathom wadi
If you consider that we might never get rid of this, it essentially shortens the average life span of everyone on the planet. Like Logan's Runs. So we must flee now. And meet Leo McKern in the library if we have any chance to escape this pseudo-utopian nightmare !
late night
fathom wadi
it's a dated reference but im sticking with it
tulip orbit
carmine frigate
my plan is to not get infected myself 😛
tulip orbit
thats a good plan
fathom wadi
We just have to do whatever we can, to make sure Unreal stays ahead of Unity in these trying times.
primal spoke
We just have to do whatever we can, to make sure Unreal stays ahead of Unity in these trying times.
@fathom wadi lol
carmine frigate
yea we should band together and do the least amount of work possible,.. as usual 😛
tulip orbit
way ahead of you
fathom wadi
modular slack. I'm in.
carmine frigate
for my lack of interest in doin social stuff is my superpower 😛
primal spoke
its beyond social stuff though.
They say the grocer is fine, but its crowded due to panic.
carmine frigate
ahh its fine here
fathom wadi
it's on the money now. We have to call The Division.
carmine frigate
atm, was crowded a week, but now every1 has enough TP
carmine frigate
navy seals
fathom wadi
Constipation sufferers are the new virtue signallers.
primal spoke
Bidets sales might skyrocket after this, tbh.
carmine frigate
lol the only thing that makes TP hoarded is cuz its so huge
i worked at a distribution place, and u can fill up a truck with that stuff in about 2 hourrs
ppl wil be done hoarding that
fathom wadi
Good time to start a new dogwalking business for older people called "Hazmat's". A brand that sounds safer already !
primal spoke
its hard starting a new project right after finishing one. I feel so gun-shy.
fathom wadi
I have a list of thing to last me 5 years for when I finish stuff.
zinc matrix
tbh if everyone on the planet gets it
to not get it you would have to never meet people
and go shopping in gas mask
and work remotely
and never party
primal spoke
I just know how much time goes into making games from start to finish.
Its chunks of your life.
large chunks.
the virus doesn't live inside people forever.
neon iris
Many do. We can thank a leftover virus rna that’s critical for placenta development 😜
zinc matrix
soo
median wraith
claps claps claps
zinc matrix
should window be opened or not? to not catch coronja
primal spoke
Didn't know about the placenta stuff, but IK many viruses can last forever.
Don't think covid is one of them.
median wraith
Imagine a virus that affects only to the skins with tattoos tints
carmine frigate
u got the claps?
tulip orbit
👏
median wraith
yeah because they only works this time of the year, and because them are the only ones doing something
it seems like the people with kids that have autism are getting a bad time
median wraith
meanwhile this same stupids that claps at 8pm at the morning insults the fathers with a son that have autism and can't be closed in house for weeks
carmine frigate
a lil autism aint too bad
median wraith
yeah but this one is extreme one
carmine frigate
im just fine 🙂
median wraith
plus have hyperactivity or that thing
carmine frigate
lets hope its better when it hits 50c there
B4 i mean
u literally get fried there w/o airco
neon iris
Praise be retroviruses
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/endogenous-retroviruses/
zinc matrix
@signal citrus not a vii?
carmine frigate
when u get it it wil allways stay in some dorment form
signal citrus
what are those priced at gnocchi?
a vii should out perform a 2070
i just thought they were 6-7 hundo range
carmine frigate
ill leave those things for ppl that know how to use em 🙂
cloud nova
@zinc matrix how much is the VII?
zinc matrix
16gb
signal citrus
where the 2080 ti is about a 1080 ti with more useless shit
carmine frigate
LOL
neon iris
You’re not wrong
carmine frigate
like if the vii is something u know how to use i bet its great
zinc matrix
I see the vii out preforming the 1080 ti on some game benchmarks
signal citrus
yeah gnocchi i use the word "about" very loosly there
carmine frigate
i see em as 2 cards with 2 usecases 😛
signal citrus
2080 ti will outperform a 1080 ti but the thousand dollar difference between the two doesn't make up the delta
zinc matrix
^
carmine frigate
yea lil usecase there, unless u wunna do RT stuff
signal citrus
not worth saying "unless your one of the people who will use rtx"
zinc matrix
the 1080 ti does as good as a rtx 2080
signal citrus
aha ye lol
zinc matrix
(non super)
signal citrus
i'm like 80% sure these people for RT use don't exist
stiff crystal
2070 super is close to 1080ti in perf
signal citrus
1080*
stiff crystal
for some it wins, some it loses
signal citrus
non ti
carmine frigate
if u wunna do fancy RT renders in EU4
stiff crystal
huh?
signal citrus
isn't the 2080 equiv to 1080ti ?
zinc matrix
or, I might wait for the rx 6000 series and see what they've got
signal citrus
you'll always be able to wait gnocchi
carmine frigate
rdna2 still takes a while tho]
signal citrus
interesting 0lento
novel latch
I usually don't like monopolies, but I once had an AMD with a driver issue in Unreal Engine, wrote a bug report and they basically said: "Get an NVIDIA card you dummy" :/
signal citrus
the super series really confuses the hell out of me
signal citrus
yeah so, 2070 super is like a 1080 ti with less memory then
stiff crystal
btw, those benchmarks were on 4k, but results are similar on 1080p
zinc matrix
no
stiff crystal
well, I've always said DXR only makes sense for the devs atm
signal citrus
1080ti is dxr capable too, just not dedicated hardware for it
stiff crystal
there are notable gains to be had if you use it in production + you get to be in the front line
it doesn't make much sense for actual players
signal citrus
it doesn't make a lot of sense for developers who aren't trying to push it either
stiff crystal
but like, if you use bakers that utilize dxr
many renderers now have built-in support
signal citrus
ah does gpu lightmass use rtx?
zinc matrix
thx guys, see ya got to go to class
stiff crystal
there was some rtx thing for gpu lightmass I think
zinc matrix
i'll read back on this if u choose to continue
stiff crystal
I haven't followed it so closely
signal citrus
if you can wait, gnocchi: would wait to see price range for 6 series from amd
rdna2 or whatever
stiff crystal
signal citrus
if they stick it to nvidia like they do intel it'll be interesting
carmine frigate
i think nvid 3k series comes 1st
novel latch
there is a loading screen projected on every map? 👏
soft night
carmine frigate
ow that does look kinda dope
median wraith
hows that there is no an option to get pivot point at center of selected actors ????
🤦🏽♀️
stiff crystal
3k series is probably postponed by quite a lot
the world is now stalled
also DLSS can burn in flames
DLSS 2.0 offers image quality comparable to native resolution while rendering only one quarter to one half of the pixels. It employs new temporal feedback techniques for sharper image details and improved stability from frame to frame.
that already tells it's going to be sh*t 😄
remember all the hype for DLSS (1.0)?
but now that it's available, nobody wants to touch it as it's just horrible
also wtf is this 😄 https://news.developer.nvidia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/pasted-image-0-6.png
85 fps on DXR enabled on RTX 2060
I don't even get that on 2070 super
oh wait, it was from Wolfenstein: Young Blood 😄
yeah nevermind me 😄
thought it was BF V
soft night
it going to be awesome
stiff crystal
what makes you think it's actually usable this time around?
soft night
all that deeplearning power from RT cores
carmine frigate
i skipped trough the vid, it looked allright
i wont buy anything until i see some stats tho
soft night
@carmine frigate what if you test it
carmine frigate
ppl actually preorder hardware now 😛
stiff crystal
this would make more sense if it were on consoles
carmine frigate
i dont have RT cores
stiff crystal
but they use amd
soft night
they also released RTX global illumination SDK
carmine frigate
i tested a whole bunch of nvidia brach stuff B4
soft night
new texture tool
carmine frigate
not that it aint good, its just usually not my area
im interested for 2 days and i drop it 😛
soft night
remember of everything first gen have issues of new tech
carmine frigate
if im gunna do DXR on my amd card and vieuwport fps drops like a brick im done in 2 sec 😛
imma stick with what im doin and ill see what comes out of all this 🙂
carmine frigate
hmm i did watch a bit from a dx12 vid
i should prolly compare fortnite on DX11 and 12
signal citrus
i think rtx should be removed from engine and reserved for once hdr is properly implemented in editor
super frustrating
soft night
@carmine frigate you have vega?
deep glen
bleh, i forgot how much I dislike video editing
soft night
the DLSS2 is in new game ready drivers
deep glen
anybody using DaVinci resolve? how to do a blend transition between two videos
cross dissolve. got it
deep glen
I did, now cutting it up
everything I hate about premiere is awesome in resolve, and vice versa
zinc matrix
watcha editing?
deep glen
a video :p
(of an environment I worked on recently)
deep glen
why is "delete" backspace?
signal citrus
its not bad, but it crashes a lot
carmine frigate
just get it right in take 1 🙂
raw rose
I'm learning how to paint stylistic models. Not going good so far
I'm better with shapes
Might just say fuck it and use solid colors lmao
carmine frigate
bake AO put a filter on it, and stylyzed
carmine frigate
AO is a good place to start , better than starting a texture out of scratch
deep glen
RAGE WEFQERGFQESDRGQERGQERG
carmine frigate
blender
deep glen
I press C because I want the Cut tool
raw rose
Alright, I'll try that
deep glen
adds an undeletable filter to my video
raw rose
carmine frigate
yea look allright
raw rose
Awesome
carmine frigate
his UV map loops crap tho, cant really handpaint on that
raw rose
UV maps are always crap
carmine frigate
u wunna get something with mirror so u can paint both sides at a time
raw rose
Yeah my current character is mirrored
carmine frigate
when u got the AO backe u can play with the color balance
and use that a base
there is a few steps to bake it, and its not really obvious but u can do it rly fast
apply material, add a texture, select it and you can hit bake AO in cycles
raw rose
Watching the video now
zinc matrix
sup
novel latch
not gonna lie, I'm a little hyped for that promised Luos video today 🙂
deep glen
i should make a faster one, but it'll end up about 8 minutes because all the shots are slow and the meditative music on the bg adds to it.
have been screaming at the monitor a lot
resolve is just stupid
deep glen
it better not because then I will scream murder
signal citrus
gulp
deep glen
been googling a lot of resolve things
99% of answers is
"read page 6xx of the user manual"
bleach please
signal citrus
it does export at 4k phew
signal citrus
but that is the limit, no 8k for you
deep glen
1200-ish pages of documentation is awesome, but if you need that many.. you might want to iterate on your tools
zinc matrix
4k sounds cooler than 2160p
raw rose
Added a layer of AO, it does look better, but I still need to paint in details
carmine frigate
you can multiply the AO with a color and put it in base color
raw rose
Yeah so far
signal citrus
it doesn't want to
raw rose
Shotcut might be able to convert it
deep glen
already on it
raw rose
Handbrake works too
deep glen
the one thing I forgot to install on new pc
neon iris
I feel your pain every month Luos
signal citrus
premier is nicer than resolve for sure though lol
deep glen
yea, but version I have barely does 1080p properly, and me no want CC/monthly payments
neon iris
and boy is its ui unintuitive
deep glen
i gave up making sure each shot have poolnoodlefrog because resolve
signal citrus
don't let it break your frog spirit luos
signal citrus
any toads?
deep glen
I like me more now for some reason
nah, I have been listening to some asian flute thingy with background river/bird sounds, and it fits really well
so im using that
jfc its blurry
neon iris
Max out the bitrate and pray
zinc matrix
pray on max fps in 10 threads
stiff crystal
wtf, I totally did not do that
novel latch
this always save on compile should be forbidden 😄
deep glen
tis done!
signal citrus
deep glen
same! but no, i just kitbashed a frog mesh and a monk statue mesh together.
novel latch
what takes the most time in this scene? 🤔
deep glen
creation-wise?
deep glen
mainly nothing having lod's and in some cases many 80k poly meshes
novel latch
how many polys is the whole thing? 😅
deep glen
the max-file without the plants was already 1.2 million, and thats without duplicating the meshes
but creation wise, finding the right textures and meshes trough quixels convoluted naming schemes XD
jesus those namings are bad
oh a totally different tree texture?
tttweurw3r
another?
tttweuuwer
grr
hehe
novel latch
want a feedback? ❤️
deep glen
sure
novel latch
- I don't like some of those edges, could need a bevel
- the water on the pipe is moving a little 2 fast for the music
- I really like those plants around the level and light interaction with plants in general
- shape of the level and shapes in general are 🔥
- that green character is funny 🙂
novel latch
actually it should be more damaged, considering the ivy (moss/grass on stone) around is showing the age of of the temple
deep glen
that I also agree with
there is a lot i could improve upon, but its also kinda a way for me to let go of my urge to redo things until they match my own critic hehe.
ah its finally in 4k
signal citrus
the foliage is really nice, did you brighten the level up recently?
deep glen
yea, darkened the base and played (a bit too much) with the lights :p
signal citrus
Very cool like the amount of things going on
north torrent
I'm alive.
primal spoke
Everyone here is alive
north torrent
Are you?
north torrent
Maybe you should check your bank account and see.
north torrent
The one that tells you if you are alive or not...
primal spoke
I lived many years of my life without a bank account.
Like all of us have.
Did you ever get those shares?
primal spoke
The stocks on my watchlist went up today... I'm like wtf.?
It's crazy looking at price charts from when the virus hit.
I'm not an option guy.
north torrent
I don't know what any of that stuff means, Mr. Scipio.
primal spoke
I haven't traded options in a minute
north torrent
I have never owned any stock before.
I am generally against the idea, but watching the world burn puts me in the mood to do something different.
north torrent
I think the general premise of the stock market is morally wrong.
But I also never claimed that I am a good person either, so I am by no means obligated to not take part in something just because it is morally wrong.
primal spoke
How is supporting a business morally wrong? In general.
north torrent
Well, I will keep it simple.
-
Corporation Stock Buybacks allow the people at the top to get rich off of companies while undercutting the working class. I honestly believe that if the government were outlaw these again, like before Ronald Reagan, that the working class would be much better off in the world.
-
The stock market only works to make the rich, richer while leaving behind the working class and the poor.
primal spoke
How do you think retirement funds work?
novel latch
"People are dying, I need to buy those stocks now"
north torrent
Retirement funds? Those are for rich people.
I'm a teacher, we just die when we get old.
primal spoke
These are managed portfolios trading stock for grandma's retirement
north torrent
But like I said before, just because something is at its core morally wrong in my opinion doesn't mean it can't be used as a tool.
I don't judge people who use it as a tool to do things that are good for themselves or others.
novel latch
oof
north torrent
Shut up, Karol.
novel latch
That's kinda rude, don't you think Mr. Mao? ❤️
deep glen
^
primal spoke
There are also school endowment funds as well.
It's not just rich people getting richer.
Although that does happen.
plucky pagoda
Allowing retirements to move from pensions to 401k investment funds is one of the worse things to happen to the work force in the last 40 years. It's disgusting.
plucky pagoda
Not many. Most places have phased them out.
north torrent
I wouldn't know, I am never going to be able to retire.
Not a subject I give any thought to.
primal spoke
Pension funds...
plucky pagoda
We have both here. A pension and retirement funds.
primal spoke
@north torrent are you nearing retirement age?
plucky pagoda
I use to day trade using a rollover IRA so I didn't have to claim the trades on annual taxes.
Margin is a little tricky in an IRA but did very well with it and options trading.
north torrent
Well, chances are I will never reach that age. But even if I did I would have to keep working because there will be no money left in programs like social security.
primal spoke
I bet there were tons of margin calls in the last month!
plucky pagoda
Yeah a lot of savings wiped out by people betting on an upswing
primal spoke
Don't rely on social security.
plucky pagoda
Probably a lot of money melting away to nothing with options.
north torrent
Oil.
primal spoke
I only traded options a few times. I'm not a day or swing trader