Im talking to himself
#lounge
zinc matrix
north torrent
Your other Discord login...
zinc matrix
No its your alt
cursive crypt
The future will remember this as the virus of loose bowels. Layers of soil will reveal excess quantity of toilet paper.
north torrent
My ultrawide monitor is still in quarantine...
zinc matrix
Why you need wide
north torrent
It is in a building that they will not let me enter, Mr. Ryobg...
Makes me very sad...
zinc matrix
Ofc not
cursive crypt
Oh... sad
north torrent
I could have the security guy box it up and ship it to me... but should I trust someone who isn't a computer guy? Probably not...
cursive crypt
You might get a free refigirator
zinc matrix
Trust your inner coronja only
north torrent
The original box with all the original packaging is sitting on top of my cabinet, so it will be easy to ship. But can a security guy figure it out? Probably not.
cursive crypt
But in general you should be fine telling him to box it for you. If it is an option. Might send him pictures. Monitor + cable.
zinc matrix
Pls stop
north torrent
I've got a suitcase for my PC right next to it as well... Maybe I should ask if any of the security guys knows computers...
north torrent
They gave me 5 packs of syrup with my blueberry pancakes...
cursive crypt
Are you at home stationed?
We are bit on the loose, like 50% of the ppl are gone, but I for example just arrived at the office for awhile.
north torrent
I'm at my mom's house using my old computer. All my good stuff is in China...
cursive crypt
Oh...
north torrent
I'm just a lowly teacher trying to make a few bucks internationally...
cursive crypt
And I'm delusional game dev who does not make any ๐
solid aurora
so will be there stream today ? : D State Of Unreal for everybody homes ? ๐
north torrent
I am making a game as a hobby, I used to be a game dev for real.
north torrent
I will be quarantined for 14 days, so I can do a lot of game design on my crappy laptop...
cursive crypt
The world is so dark... Even my Discord looks gloomy with these colors.
north torrent
Discord is hell.
cursive crypt
That's too red. It is Goth Hell.
cursive crypt
Sounds cool btw. I recently started trying cold showers too.
But today was like -1 outside, so I kinda didn't took one.
zinc matrix
Lol
north torrent
I used to only have cold water in my apartment, so I got used to it.
zinc matrix
They help with productivity
cursive crypt
Read recently, that like 30sec to 1-2 min is fine after warm shower. As much you dont feel forced (heart)
cursive crypt
Oh... How long it took you? Also what is the avrg temp in your place?
cursive crypt
Hmm... are you fine? Karol?
novel latch
@zinc matrix What do you mean with "preparing" and "is it wrong to live"?
Nobody said you should prepare for the apocalypse. Stores are still open and they still get their delivery normally.
cursive crypt
(... might be a fever)
north torrent
Both Ninjin and John are the same person, named Karol.
cursive crypt
Oh...
novel latch
And Mr. Mao is wearing a tin foil hat
soft night
i have cake on fridge
carmine frigate
@deep glen the coffeeshop closing is counter productive i think, how will ppl stay inside and play games in zombie mode now?
im not even gunna check the store for bread today, ill just eat a cracker ๐
soft night
i just eat food and drink coffee and milk and also eat birthday cake
zinc matrix
@cursive crypt the first time it took 2 weeks to go from warm to cold
then i stopped coldshowers
and months later i just started from cold
zinc matrix
imo its better to start from cold
cursive crypt
Well, I will continue trying, depending on my condition. Sometimes it can hit pretty hard on your body (heart).
Got one pal who liked river/lakes baths. Once he tried a mountain one. He almost collapsed.
Said his heart stopped, lol.
zinc matrix
uhuh
sage tendon
@carmine frigate on april 6th there will be a "mysterious heavy fog"
fathom wadi
That will be interesting, I've never tried picking up a fog before to see how heavy it is. I'm guessing about the same as a bag of potatoes. ๐
deep glen
@carmine frigate I think its somewhat counter-productive to close coffeeshops. generally most sellers are behind enclosed/protective barriers, and generally the buyers just sit at home playing games and what not.
Now they are in the hands of unofficial dealers that either overprice their stuff, or god knows what kind of stuff you'll be getting. (though generally its the surplus that wouldn't be sold in the next three weeks)
lucid walrus
Yeah... imagine how great the planet would be if humans would just go away.
deep glen
well, at the very least we might finally make those eco-goals :p
mossy nexus
the air pollution levels in countries that have gone into lockdown have improved massively too
tulip orbit
yet the air pollution around my computer desk is rising steadily
deep glen
I should put incense next to my computer :p
mossy nexus
hang one of those car tree things at the back so the exhaust blows it ๐
deep glen
car tree whats
oh
air freshener
was like, who daduck would put a part of a tree into the exhaust of their car unless they locked themselves up the garage
mossy nexus
air freshener
that's the thingy! Sorry, had brain freeze there
zinc matrix
@lucid walrus yeah, learn on this planet then try to save the next one where we go to
but that will happen probably many generations from our
if we were born 3000 years later we all could be space pirates !
or the like
carmine frigate
i think the exaust would just blow
u have to pipe it back in the car
ow w8, ill stop the suicide tips ๐
i actually think the engine wouldnt start with exaust blocked
not verry much a car person ๐
fluid bloom
Finland just banned public gatherings of more than 10 people ๐ค
stiff crystal
better not have meetings at work with more than 10 people on the room I guess then
thin storm
lol isnt it a gathering of more then 10 people if they just go to the store and buy toiletpaper?
stiff crystal
I totally don't get it, they were so reluctant to take actions last week
fluid bloom
stiff crystal
like, they were genuinely surprised by the pace of things moving on?
fluid bloom
they probably just needed to sleep on it
big decision to declare a state of emergency ๐
plus a decision like this is bound to be a political issue later on
stiff crystal
this probably means they'll close cinemas and stuff now
thin storm
I think they all overreacting.
fluid bloom
I think it's sensible, hospitals are at max capacity already anyway
carmine frigate
at least ppl stopped saying the flu is worse ๐
stiff crystal
it can still be :p
carmine frigate
true we dont know yet
when i have got it 3 times u wil know
building up resistance is not a sure thing
quiet narwhal
we can hope but GDC kickoff for the stuff was not till wednesday anyways
solid aurora
so two days ;
yeah just checked
I hope for informa stream from eveybody homes ๐
they were supposed to finish GDC demos
stiff crystal
I posted a link at #industry-chat
basically gdc's own streams will start today
but no info on UE4 side yet
they are really late on announcing these IMO
quiet narwhal
from what they said they should have stuff for us but we dont know what or when at this point.
but the engine keeps getting updates so they are working ๐
stiff crystal
it almost feels like people are watching what others do and then try to match them etc
quiet narwhal
Microsoft is having some neato stuff this week
stiff crystal
ah, yes, they have streams for 2 days
quiet narwhal
plucky pagoda
cool
I love this talk title : "Failure Workshop: FutureGrind: How To Make A 6-Month Game In Only 4.5 Years"
That's cool, looks like a talk every hour on the hour during the day all week
carmine frigate
cool there is usually some good stuff in the gdc talks
plucky pagoda
My wife's work is keeping all supervisors away from each other. No more meetings. No two supervisors from the labs can be in the same room together.
tulip orbit
Is the new audio system default in 2.4? and is it worth upgrading my project to 2.4 from 2.3?
quiet narwhal
@plucky pagoda businesses can do that but the freaking 2 idiots in charge of our country cant do that
plucky pagoda
The governors are taking over and ignoring the federal government.
quiet narwhal
its seems that way, half of the schools here are still open and evaluating options while the other half are closed
plucky pagoda
New York is part of a regional agreement so the sourunding states are all doing the same thing. We're shutting down everything here in Ohio.
It has to happen. The current curve for where this is going is like a rocket to space.
quiet narwhal
so far half the schools, restaurants going to delivery and drive thru only, other stuff still open tho
here we should stay open, taxi service, but are taking precautions for wiping down customer contact areas between rides
plucky pagoda
If they don't do something we're like 3 to 5weeks away from hospitals being at capacity
quiet narwhal
it's quiet tho....
one of my kids is in 200 miles away in a tiny town and they are out of essentials there. stores are geting bare. no diapers. Walmart not doing deliveries. Its panic
plucky pagoda
sucks.
quiet narwhal
everything is still open tho lol even schools. Just got an email about him not being at school today lol
plucky pagoda
I'm alittle nervous now that it's looking like the shutdowns might be 2 months
but we stocked up a few things
quiet narwhal
yeah I was reading real papers from real smart people and doctors and they arent seeing this as a small thing
plucky pagoda
yeah, CDC wants the schools closed nationwide
quiet narwhal
was on a conference call with some people earlier and some of their towns are out of bread
plucky pagoda
over acting now can make a huge difference later
yeah, I bought a pound of yeast and some flour. ๐ and froze a couple loaves in the chest freezer
quiet narwhal
yep something I read was basically "if we over react we wont know if it was overkill, but if we under react we will know for sure"
plucky pagoda
exactly
quiet narwhal
we dont have a freezer, and I want to buy one, but we are being forced to move out of our place in 6 weeks so I cant even justify buying anything
plucky pagoda
don't envy you that.
quiet narwhal
and since its not eviction or rent related it looks like it will still stand with us having to move and open places to move to are being delisted for fear
so fuuuuuuuuudge
plucky pagoda
ugh...
quiet narwhal
lol for once it's not a money issue with moving, we cant even get kicked out of our houses right lol
plucky pagoda
hahah
The storytelling talk is good. It'll be hard for her to cover much in such a short time though and audio was borked at first. Seems fixed now.
nevermind audio is borked
They said any issues will be fixed when they post it to YouTube
quiet narwhal
sigh Just went looking for freezers on the offchance it would be smart. Nothing within 250 miles of me in stock or any eta for delivery
plucky pagoda
yeah, I bought the last one at Menards last week. Lowe
Lowes had already sold out.
quiet narwhal
might be time to toss out all the ice cream and cram some bread in the one we have now lol
even tried craigslist and nada. There was one 7.0 about 140 miles from me but in the time I told the wife and went back it was gone...
plucky pagoda
Ice cream is important.
I use to cook a lot this has had me doing it again. Made a sausage pizza last night the kids loved it. Put candied Jalapenos on the half for me and the wife. It was great. Didn't make the sauce though, used a jar.
quiet narwhal
yep we stocked up on all the non perishable stuff, want to make a second round today if I can for cat/dog food and other crap now that the kids are out of school
bronze axle
I feel lucky that we picked up toilet paper a couple weeks ago.
Thankfully the grocery stores aren't that bad where I am, not yet.
plucky pagoda
same.
It's crazy here.
bought those too. it was funny to watch TP sell out and then bidets
It's pretty much everywhere here. We have one or two cases from community spread confirmed in counties throughout the state.
quiet narwhal
just blah.... this whole situation blowsefs
was in the middle of fixing up a truck and getting it smogged but now wtf
plucky pagoda
Canada just closed their borders to US citizens
well not specifically, but anyone who isn't a Canadian or a permanent resident.
north torrent
I'm going to be quarantined tomorrow.
plucky pagoda
Idk, I wasn't following it closely. He's still speaking though.
All I caught was no one could come in.
bronze axle
Weird. I'm reading that the ban is for "non-citizens" and that US citizens are exempt for now.
plucky pagoda
I'm seeing that too, but when he said it I heard it as the ban includes US citizens
I must have heard it wrong,
seems stupid to make that exception though seeing as most of our hottest areas are on the border.
or near
Where will our seniors get their meds? I've gone to Canada for some of mine before. It was like a $500 difference sometimes.
I'm thinking that they're just giving it some time before making it US citizens too. There's a lot of businesses that depend on back and forth with the border. It might be to give them a chance to get ready.
quiet narwhal
man the kids are all going to be asymptamatic carriers and us old people are screwed
this is how they get rid of the boomers
bronze axle
lol
plucky pagoda
I think I wathced this movie on netflix
quiet narwhal
fuck I hate the new discord popup options
bronze axle
What popup options?
quiet narwhal
the ones on the right for edit and emoji
plucky pagoda
yeah, I hit the wrong thing everytime
quiet narwhal
when messages are scrolling its hard to get the one I want to edit
bronze axle
You're right, I'm smoking some strong crack apparently.
I think I usually just hit the up arrow to edit my latest message.
Regardless, the new popup thing on the right is much better than it used to be.
It used to be tiny, hard to see, and hard to click.
quiet narwhal
for someone who frequently makes spelling errors I deny your statement as false and want my old button back
bronze axle
I guess I don't see how the new one could make it harder than it was before.
Wait, I'm not smoking crack. You can definitely edit messages with right-click. Let me see if it's desktop client only.
Yeah, it is. No right-click menu on the web.
Bummer. ๐ฆ
quiet narwhal
ah I know what it is
its the popup part of it, its not inline
like those two messages, if I wanted to edit the bottom one I mouse over, the menu pops up on the line above it, I move my mouse towards the menu and now it moves up again because I didnt mouse over the menu first then move towards the edit button but instead moved my mouse towards the menu directly and made it go to the message above it
plucky pagoda
yeah, it moves to the next line while still inside the frame of the pop-up
at least in the app it does
quiet narwhal
plucky pagoda
I hate that. It happens in game menus and websites a lot too. Bad design
quiet narwhal
well they could put the menu back in the same line like it was....
quiet narwhal
and thats not counting the fact it covers the message above it lol
stiff crystal
it's super annoying
bronze axle
But you're hovering over a different message before you reach the edit menu.
stiff crystal
the idea here is that it wouldn't block the text
but if you reach for that control, you don't really mind at that point
quiet narwhal
and Im gonna be honest I am getting old so my mouse skills are starting to go. Half the time I try and go for the ... and I end up overshooting it and it goes to the message above it and I play peek a boo with the menu
stiff crystal
I also don't really think the new additions are really worth the pain
like getting 3 most commonly used emotes there doesn't really help that much
they could just have listed them first on the regular emote list
but yeah, proper UX is hard for people
:/
quiet narwhal
its got to be sleek and pretty not functional
stupid boomers
lol
ugh sorry its slow at work and everyone is panicking here over the virus and the fun is just quickly draining out of life here
plucky pagoda
I'm working on a design. Trying to pick a path forward. Not liking any of the options.
quiet narwhal
head down, horns up, right thru the middle lol
plucky pagoda
I've just been playing and working on games for so long everything is boring. Trying to find something to make it exciting to me.
quiet narwhal
I was hoping Epic would be like "holy crap everyone is home sick, lets get some eyes on the engine with some training in UE and Fortnite Creative" but...
bronze axle
Still waiting to hear what Epic will do about the announcements they had planned for GDC.
quiet narwhal
still sour I am not in san fran right now stupid virus
from what I know like the rest of GDC companies they should all still announce crap this week
it was still heads down in GDC mode
I know the work I am doing for Epic is still "as usual" so take that for what you will ๐
plucky pagoda
I'm reskinning the game I was working on to make it sci-fi changing the attacks to root motion so they feel a little more exciting. Moving away from cell shading and low poly to crisps psuedo 2d look
quiet narwhal
man I need to get a handle on animation a bit more including root motion. Having them in place is nice and easier but having the actual motion driving the character during combat attacks feels nicer
plucky pagoda
It's a pita, but yeah
quiet narwhal
but my brain just cries when it tries to do it
plucky pagoda
it looks so good once it's right
quiet narwhal
the rpg modular characters has in place and moving animations so I atleast have some stuff to use but.... brain no worky
like the 5 hit combo, the 4th and 5th drive the character up in a jump and a dive so its looks waaaay different in place
plucky pagoda
I had to take a bunch of animations I bought and export them then reimport with translation offsets to get the root motion right. I need an easier way to edit them in engine.
Maya is the only place I've had a good workflow but it's too expensive for me
quiet narwhal
It's almost like real game dev is hard sometimes
plucky pagoda
I've played with breaking the animations up into different parts of the attack for some of the combos. Not just attack 1,2, 3, etc.. but attack warm up, attack strike, attack recover etc... and had good results.
Then like if the enemy is at a different angle or distance the animation can adjust. like blend out of the part of the strike that is the swing as the character reaches the enemy
With root motion you have to turn the mode to flying to get z motion
quiet narwhal
yep I hope to do that at some point just for learning. I've gone thru a ton of different stuff learning the entire system and it's still barely touched
at some point tho you have got to just go "its good enough" and move on
plucky pagoda
yeah. That's one thing I'm starting to get better at.
Not working things and tuning them before moving on.
quiet narwhal
like I always get annoying at moving from a dead stop and it being a stutter step if you just tap the keys as it starts/stops the blend cycle
but then I see AAA games having the same issue and in the end it's not really a big deal
plucky pagoda
I see games all the time with things like that. You notice something that you spend time fixing in your own work and no one's out there complaining about it.
quiet narwhal
playing Ori and the Will of the Wisps and its beautiful but if they said screw it and it works like that
bronze axle
I'm very lucky in that I already work from home, so no major adjustments at all.
Right now I'm between clients, though, so I've got a rare opportunity to put more time into personal projects.
plucky pagoda
Oh man, I tried to play contra last night since it was on sale on ps4.
bronze axle
Slackers included. ๐
plucky pagoda
Installing Ori now. I saw it's on game pass now.
quiet narwhal
yep thats why I grabbed it. really pretty
plucky pagoda
Big file size for a sidescroller.
plucky pagoda
screens are nice. Net is slow today. DAmn kids at home everywhere taxing the cable company
zinc matrix
some sources say epidemy will last to 2021 and longer
plucky pagoda
ugh Ori is going to take a while only getting 6 MB/s down
bronze axle
Gonna be in a rural area for the next week. Hopefully their internet holds up. ๐
bronze axle
Cell reception there is bad enough they need a booster in the house.
And they had to get WiFi calling to be able to reliably make calls.
I usually download as much as I can to my laptop before traveling there, just in case. lol
plucky pagoda
I have to do that at home. We're in a suburb too just weird location to the towers I guess.
Wifi calling or I miss calls when at home.
bronze axle
Sounds frustrating for sure.
Although a lot more phones support wifi calling now, so at least it's an option for more people.
plucky pagoda
I really wish the infrastructure for that stuff wasn't driven by profit. If a community has less then several hundred thousand potential subs it's not worth running out lines according to the fiber/cable companies.
slate drift
A super random question
VAX or Resharper?
nova finch
I write my code in notepad
nova finch
how much is Resharper?
slate drift
Well I get it for free from university
plucky pagoda
I haven't looked in a while.
nova finch
oh
slate drift
Money isn't the issue for me though
plucky pagoda
use a trial and then pick, both have like 30 day trials I think
nova finch
VAX can take a long time on initial setup / load
slate drift
Is Resharper fatser?
nova finch
can't say
plucky pagoda
@quiet narwhal Holy crap. I was like whatever I'm sure it looks okay but just started it and Damn. Wow.
Controls and movement is smooth as hell too.
quiet narwhal
yep
its got "some" performance issues on xbox but for the most part it holds steady
plucky pagoda
playing on my workstation and it's tight
quiet narwhal
yep it's a great example of a Unity game
the Engine helps but man you can't replace skill and passion
plucky pagoda
Definitely, there's a lot of little things there to take in.
quiet narwhal
Everything is in motion is a big one for it
plucky pagoda
Yeah, and the way almost everything reacts to the player
The visual layering too. Everything is crisp where you're meant to focus but the layers from foreground to background are so well done, and the transitions...
quiet narwhal
heh I play it and see simple stuff like NPC scattering or them just reacting to the player and running off and go......... jesus the work it takes with all that custom animation
I go "ugh I have to link together 5 attacks for a combo" and then I see that game and cry
plucky pagoda
I'm a harsh critic, but it's just wow.
quiet narwhal
Time and Effort man, time and effort
plucky pagoda
even in some of the early stuff so far you can see how they transition the focus from one layer to another. It's really nice to see that level of attention given to something.
quiet narwhal
it's beautiful on my 4K HDR tv
plucky pagoda
The camera movement is good too. That's the one thing that games like this usually mess up.
quiet narwhal
Discord outages..... must... not panic....
last summit
fluid bloom
has there been any talk about whether epic will stream their gdc talks?
alpine fern
not yet
stiff crystal
they haven't even said there will be such ๐
but it's expected
I'm mainly wanting to hear about EOS schedule
deep glen
@plucky pagoda Ori 2 might be the best metroidvania I have ever played, on all aspects
plucky pagoda
I have a hard time getting into the gameplay but I can appreciate how well done it is.
deep glen
near the end of the game you feel like a god, going trough the world with only touching the ground sporadically
as did ori 1, but iunno why, this time the controls feel much better
plucky pagoda
Nice. I'll definitely give it a good play through when I can. I barely played it and was really blown away by some of the work.
I hated the feel of the first one. The controls are definitely much better in this one. The animation and feel is very smooth.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, definitely a lot to appreciate
deep glen
its not just vfx, its all so well grounded in the world
that said, i have had some glitches. nothing is perfect hehe
plucky pagoda
They do a really good job of using traditional 2D methods and merging those with the tools of a 3D engine.
stiff crystal
last metroidvania I've played was Hollow Knight
that game was so hard at times it wasn't even funny
plucky pagoda
I'm really impressed by it.
stiff crystal
but only things I would have actually changed on HK would have been a) the bloody mushroom bouncing b) ending
zinc matrix
@slate drift stay away from Resharper for C++. Not worth it. For C# on the other hand is a awesome addon.
plucky pagoda
I think it was true at one point, less so today.
thorny socket
what
jovial talon
Resharper is gold
thorny socket
?
jovial talon
is this lounge or not
thorny socket
why the hell was i pinged
plucky pagoda
I mean if your asking in a UE place C++ is assumed
jovial talon
no idea
jovial talon
lmao
plucky pagoda
lol... wrong wizard
jovial talon
wizaaaaaaaaaaaards
plucky pagoda
he probably typed wizard and let it auto complete
thorny socket
i just wanted to make sure tbh
stiff crystal
thorny socket
people are scummy these days
quiet narwhal
it was WizardCell he meant to type
jovial talon
nova finch
considering they sold out almost instantly, not anytime soon
plucky pagoda
If they can't meet current demand why would increasing sales be the priority?
I mean that's kind of what I'm getting at. The focus is likely on upscaling production not increasing sales.
zinc matrix
Can someone tell me why my character stops roaming after ai move to?https://gyazo.com/93b72d877efd2215f8541bb05601066c
its on an event tick so it should check every tick
plucky pagoda
Use f9 to put a break on some of those nodes and watch what happens when it runs
pearl elk
the world has gone mad and lounge is still chill
wheres the desperation, the shady toilet paper deals... I want you to get mad
tulip orbit
too tired to be mad
pearl elk
Im too virus to drink coronas
novel latch
but we are all nerds who rarely leave the house anyway
nothing changed
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
pearl elk
lies, since no one else is going out I been going out more ๐
its so peaceful out there in the world now
zinc matrix
coronavirus was invented by the toilet paper companies to increase sales
pearl elk
I havent seen a shutdown on this scale since the world trade center collapse
novel latch
zinc matrix
world trade center was local, this is whole world
zinc matrix
*planet
pearl elk
it shut down the stock markets for awhile, I wonder why theyre still trading tbh
I guess its cuz theres money to be had with the AUD heading towards 60c to the USD
All of my bleh
on the upside, if youre in the US and want to hire me Im cheap ๐
zinc matrix
is Fox news pro Trump?
pearl elk
its Murdoch press so yup
all of these
lol wow I can go as low as $14USD/h and still make a decent AUD wage
zinc matrix
hi
carmine frigate
whats movie is that from again?
fluid bloom
I'm pretty sure the food hasn't ran out
carmine frigate
theres are a few markets cleaned out but generally u can get some ๐
100m down the road is a warehouse tho i worked there.. plenty food
bout 500 supermarkets full
supermarkets are empty, cuz a lot of the scholars that work there say fuc dis
imma take a while off
not cuz the virus but its pretty tense in there lately
cant fill stocks if ur min wage scholars leave ๐
tripple the work pressure, customers less friendly, i called in sick for less
static cosmos
Need to switch out my front case fans. Ordered the only two in stock didn't notice they have 5 pin connector how am I supposed to get power to these things?
I don't seem to have anything in my case it can plug into
pearl elk
so whats everyone up to?
mossy nexus
5'11"
fathom wadi
I'd share my workspace at home, but it would mean cleaning my desk, and that ain't happening !
Order from chaos. The developer's desk should be a mess at all times, to everyone but the developer who knows exactly where everything is ๐
deep glen
I had to clean my desk to Marc :p
fathom wadi
sell out ๐
fathom wadi
๐
pearl elk
deep glen
nice vfx :p
pearl elk
lol I see I cant hold my camera straight
I think I need another light behind the main monitor
deep glen
and im happy to see more people with cabinet-thingies next to their desk :p
fluid bloom
hue lamps?
pearl elk
yup
they do work to add abit of immersion for gaming sessions too but mostly it was to help with eye strain cuz I have a bad habit of sitting in the dark
fluid bloom
I'm guessing that's the sync app running on the left screen? ๐ค
verbal junco
again, you're comparing day 63 with day 12,547
pearl elk
yeah and HIV is still here, corona will be a footnote even if it were to infect every living human
verbal junco
corona's gonna return every year and be part of the yearly infection cycle
like the cold/flu
pearl elk
yes well its just SARS 2
pearl elk
SARS-COV2
rare sparrow
Almost every person ever has died on Earth. That means the secret to immortality is to move to another planet. Elon is onto something 
verbal junco
sars didn't have the mass range corona has had
cursive crypt
off topic:
pearl elk
my fear isnt a stupid flu, its the repercussions of stopping the economy
its a train not a binary switch, this shit wont just take back off at terminal velocity once its all over
we're going to be living the lasting effects of the shut down for decades
verbal junco
the alternative is that our health care systems get overloaded and people die en masse
so your fear isn't justified on any real scale
pearl elk
that already happens
verbal junco
not everywhere
pearl elk
because of the burden older people are on the welfare systems globally, they are the biggest single cost even above military spending
rare sparrow
verbal junco
maybe in the US
verbal junco
but the US is a third world country in terms of infrastructure
pearl elk
the US economy hasnt been hit nearly as hard as ours
ancient ingot
so ya'll got yaselves lots of toilet roll? ๐
pearl elk
our dollars shed almost 10c to the USD in the past 2 weeks
Australia wont recover, we dont have the capacity
pearl elk
emigrate, I cant even get a flight interstate
pearl elk
its bloody lunacy whats going on, I understand isolating for safety but shutting down the worlds economy is stupid
verbal junco
if the world's economy shuts down collectively everyone will be in the same boat
pearl elk
Do people even understand how much tourism and overseas study is worth
cursive crypt
You can't really isolate w/o damaging the economy
pearl elk
Here in Australia tourism pays for part of our amazing healthcare system
so its much of a muchness, shutting it down is just going to leave us short of hospital beds long term
verbal junco
well stop having forest fires and pandemics then
pearl elk
how bout we just line up all the infected and shoot em
verbal junco
can you do the same with the forest fires too?
pearl elk
forest fires have nothing to do with the current conversation
verbal junco
are you saying they didn't affect australia's economy
pearl elk
we didnt shut anything down for them
our country can run when its on fire but oh alittle sniffle and the whole shit comes crashing down
pearl elk
free nation yeah good luck with that, most countries are under totalitarian law
I saw Spain has military on the streets
verbal junco
I mean you're the one having a problem with it
pearl elk
Im lucky Im even allowed out on the street myself without being fined
pearl elk
Ive been in contact with someone who came back from overseas whos been in isolation, if they show any symptoms Im not allowed to go out
yeah single countries not the entire world
we didnt even bother to shut anything down for Ebola which is way worse
yeah okay
we'll give you both and you can see which you prefer
verbal junco
^
verbal junco
it's fine, just don't talk like you have a solution then
because you very clearly don't
pearl elk
lol
verbal junco
it was @pearl elk
pearl elk
solution is to fuck Australia and ruin our economy
pearl elk
yeah and how much has your economy crashed?
verbal junco
your problems don't exist in isolation
pearl elk
old enough to have seen how economies work over decades
pearl elk
but my age has no baring on anything
verbal junco
sit down and suck it up
ancient ingot
It means that the virus circulating in unfiltered air conditioning systems will only persist for a couple of hours at most. But it survived for longer on cardboard โ up to 24 hours โ and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless-steel surfaces.```yey for cardboard and plastic eh ๐ก
pearl elk
Im not fussed about the virus, Im more concerned with the impact on the world
pearl elk
if everyone were hit equally our dollar wouldnt be tanking vs all the other currencies would it
strong currencies like the Euro and USD have nothing to worry about because they cover most of the globe
tulip orbit
verbal junco
the biggest issue is actually that there might be an imminent collapse of health care systems
pearl elk
umm Im Australian if you didnt notice we dont have a president
verbal junco
grounded in the infected/burnt out/collapsed health workers
who work around the clock
pearl elk
and I dont support Trump or our PM
so please take your lefty righty shit elsewhere
41 and youre still pointing fingers like a child
verbal junco
anyway economy will survive
and if not
it's fine too
australia just turns into mad max territory
people will vacation for that if nothing else
country wide burning man
pearl elk
Im taking it very serious, I just have larger concerns
pearl elk
Hospital beds cost money
verbal junco
which I might add is the hottest of takes
winter zealot
money isn't tied to any tangible real world value
it's tied to real world values because of a common consensus
verbal junco
k well let me know when farms run out of food
that's when the real problems start kicking in
pearl elk
its not without resources how do you suppose we make anything?
verbal junco
until then you're fine
pearl elk
miners arnt able to get to job sites because of the quarantines
no metal, no electronics
winter zealot
collective organizations are necessary to ensure a sustainable future
not this stupid madmax bullshit
verbal junco
agreed
although I am waiting for either australia or the US to turn into a country wide mad max theme park
winter zealot
i swear, everytime i hear ppl say "thanos" "apocalypse" and "madmax"
verbal junco
lmao
pearl elk
its hardly an apocalypse
winter zealot
i feel like there's a math class and a kid is answering by quoting dragon ball z
verbal junco
lmfao
pearl elk
but it will be a recession the likes we've never seen
cursive crypt
lol, we all have theories
pearl elk
Its not a theory, Im listening to the economists
runic briar
Sounds like the solutions is to make sure you have lots of guns and ammo ๐
verbal junco
economists don't know jack
pearl elk
they were predicting recession before corona virus hit
winter zealot
as long as ppl are working to make food and sustain suply chains, it's allright but the money needs to reflect the value of the food and the supply chain
verbal junco
fucking literally they are being paid to prophetize
mossy nexus
Good to see the occupants of #lounge are still good at talking crap, and being self opinionated muppets. This really is entertaining.
verbal junco
@mossy nexus we aim to please
winter zealot
the money must not reflect the fear of investors but the actual daily work of people, so that people have enough money to keep working
cursive crypt
Here, have paper ๐งป
verbal junco
all I'm saying is that the profession as a whole has less to do with calculated prediction and more to do with whatever they infer from events
runic briar
An interesting website: https://howmuchtoiletpaper.com/
pearl elk
you'll need it for all the shit you dribble
winter zealot
it's absolutely possible to use a water bottle and some old piece of cloth to replace toilet paper if absolutely necessary, just wash the piece of cloth after the fact
pearl elk
If you think all these shut downs wont have an impact on business youre very wrong, the entertainment industry is going to be hit so hard. Many musicians have lost their livelyhood and hollywood aint gonna be able to do shit at the box office in coming months
winter zealot
no need for damn toilet paper, killing forests because a civilization has not learnt to wipe it's bottom
pearl elk
Filming on alot of shows has shut down, many conventions are off or postponed which is where companies show off to shareholders and other stakeholders
verbal junco
@pearl elk ah right, big businesses are going to be equalized, how terrible
verbal junco
hollywood will be drying their eyes with $100 bills
fluid bloom
@runic briar you made me check how many sheets a roll of toilet paper has
cursive crypt
I guess, gaming will go bloom even more. You don't need to go shoot outside ๐ค
pearl elk
this will have an impact on all of us directly as part of the entertainment industry and wider implications for all industries including resources sectors. Only reason oil is going alright is cuz the Saudis went on a price war with Russia
but ofcoarse you all knew that cuz youre so plugged into the money and the markets
runic briar
lol, how many does it have?
verbal junco
ecologically wild animal populations are returning from threatening numbers to normal
the world carries on
winter zealot
yeah if there's a white giraffe it's gonna live
rare species won't be slaughtered by some bumtard
cursive crypt
Animal's revenge: cough, cough
pearl elk
Cows can actually get a bovine strain of corona virus
cursive crypt
Oh? They can catch it too? Is it troublesome for them?
winter zealot
yeah that's horrible, it spreads to animals too
i don't know anything about viruses tho, disclaimer
pearl elk
I didnt read too much about it, it seemed unrelated but I guess if it mutated it could make meat contaminated like mad cow disease in the UK awhile back
verbal junco
well not really
pearl elk
I wouldnt stress, Im sure it'll be fine
verbal junco
mad cow disease is creutzfeld jacobsen disease in bovines
it's a prion disease
conversely corona is a virus
prions are infinitely more difficult to deal with than viral infections
pearl elk
well it did transfer from an animal to a human thats how all this started right?
I AM not SURE why you CApitalizE ranDom Shit
which is who?
<@&213101288538374145>
Please remind people of the rules about respect
seriously I had to put up with your constant insults and capitalisation for no reason
I havent insulted anyone
cursive crypt
Seems mods are in lockdown ๐
winter zealot
it's absolutely possible to argue for months without saying anyone is a child, altrough i would'nt consider " child " an insult it can absolutely be avoided easily if necessary
pearl elk
If you want to make a point thats cool just do it without insulting my intelligence
fluid bloom
soooo any UE 4 news?
winter zealot
i'm ok to be called a child, it's cute and it means i can learn ๐ฎ
verbal junco
I mean you don't seem to be listening anyway
cursive crypt
UE5 not coming
pearl elk
I said I was concerned, I was joking about just lining people up and shooting them
verbal junco
oh idc about that
pearl elk
I never said I would put the economy over human life just that we need a balance and I dont consider that childish
verbal junco
there is no balance
that's something you made up
you don't balance the economy against human lives
winter zealot
so in terms of UE4 news, in ShaderParameters.cpp
pearl elk
we balance the economy against human lives all the time
winter zealot
there's some assert making UE4 crash if a mandatory shader parameter is missing
pearl elk
atleast 1 person dies every year from conveyor belt accidents, we dont shut em all down
runic briar
Just saw preview 3 is out!
winter zealot
commenting that assert out allows for UE4 to recompile the shader and work without any problem
pearl elk
its not something Im making up, Im trained in conveyor operations and its something I was taught
verbal junco
good for you
winter zealot
because the shader compiler is stable and well made, that assert is un-necessary
verbal junco
that has nothing to do with "balancing" the economy against human life
winter zealot
it doesn't "corrupts the data" to remove that assert
runic briar
Conveyor belt operations are a joke and likely non existent
pearl elk
people die on the job every day and sure we try to mitigate that loss of life but it happens and things just tick along because its unfortunate side effect of economy of scale like this
verbal junco
nobody gives a shit about conveyor accidents because they're just that
fluid bloom
winter zealot
when unity fails at compiling a shader, unity doesn't crash... unity just displays a purple surface shader and indicates in the output log that a shader can't be compiled..... no need to crash the whole engine
pearl elk
why is everything anti-US, Im not even making it about the US
winter zealot
I don't think it's entirely safe to remove that assert from ShaderParameters.cpp because I haven't done extensive testing
pearl elk
the resources sector is global, there are mines with conveyors all over
winter zealot
but if the shader compiler just outputs a compiled shader and doesn't change anything else, it won't corrupt any data
so it's perfectly safe to remove it in theory
median wraith
pearl elk
@bleak thicket thats not true at all
the US, UK and Australia arnt the only ones who mine resources
verbal junco
@pearl elk nobody's forcing you to work in mines, health workers are forced to work in hospitals
yuge difference
your conveyor analogy is falling apart
pearl elk
Health workers arnt forced to work in hospitals
winter zealot
@slow gyro sure, testing this might be way too much work, but if it's made sure that the shaderCompiler doesn't change any gamedata or asset files.. removing this assert or replacing it by a blank shader and an error message should do the trick
verbal junco
they are most definitely forced to work in hospitals
pearl elk
they arnt forced to work as much as miners arnt
slow gyro
@winter zealot If it's only your project, then I wouldn't care too much. But there is after all a reason someone placed that assert there.
winter zealot
it's ShaderParameters.cpp FShaderParameter::Bind , , line 23 and 25 etc
verbal junco
@pearl elk lmao your miner analogy again
winter zealot
@slow gyro what if it's a bad reason ? that's how engines are stuck in stupidity and code depth
verbal junco
jesus christ listening to this shit makes me reconsider democracy
pearl elk
there is the hippocratic oath I suppose so they might have a moral obligation. Im not saying we do nothing about the virus, Im concerned about the implications of what happens after the shut downs
winter zealot
what if any other engine can support buggy shaders without crashing except UE4 ?
runic briar
Well, the shut down will probably let my get a cheaper car....
winter zealot
also, UE4 perfectly recompiled the shader without this assert, so it was redundent
pearl elk
You guys seem to think everything is gonna be fine in acouple of months just because we all stayed inside but that isnt actually what the evidence tells us
winter zealot
also ยฒ if UE4 crashes because of a buggy shader, the buggy shader can't be fixed ๐ฆ
pearl elk
its a highly infectious virus you seem to know abit about them and that its not just going to go away
verbal junco
yep it's not going to go away
but we'll attain herd immunity
which is why it'll just become a part of the yearly infection cycle
runic briar
If people keep buying toilet paper I might get lucky ๐
cursive crypt
๐ ๐ ๐
verbal junco
the real estate market might open up
pearl elk
so what we shut down the economy every year?
verbal junco
no
winter zealot
if a foreign evil spy wants to sabotage UnrealEngine, all he has to do is to get authority grade and place a reference to a nullpointer somewhere and it won't ever be removed because hierarchy ๐ฆ okay maybe i'm making it worse than it is
pearl elk
coronavirus season stop work
cursive crypt
UE is then full of spies.
verbal junco
@pearl elk it's ok, you don't get it, you may never get it, it's useless trying to explain it to you. just live with the fact that people who have a better understanding than you are already taking necessary precautions. if you listen to them, you will be fine
pearl elk
Who said Im not taking precautions?
winter zealot
but yeah I wouldn't remove this assert on my own anyway, not familiar with shader compiler enough
pearl elk
I actually have eczema from washing my hands too much even before all this
verbal junco
@pearl elk I don't care whether you are or not. I asked you to listen
median wraith
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/626488261476614145/689483829366227009/cmd_2020-03-17_15-41-40.png
Well managed to reach more than 30k lines with the game and libs
pearl elk
listen to who exactly?
verbal junco
your government
pearl elk
and didnt I say thats exactly what Im doing?
and somehow Im childish for having concerns about the economy after all this
pearl elk
Im not panicing ffs
pearl elk
seriously
verbal junco
#democracywasamistake
deep glen
jesus ffin christ, calm the heck down
pearl elk
All I did was voice some concerns
pearl elk
and yes Im concerned that Epic not having State of Unreal will hold things up
runic briar
Y'all finally seem to have gotten the mods attention
median wraith
good thing cornhub gave us all in spain free premium accounts because the virus
fathom wadi
@pearl elk my youngest daughter has eczema on her hands and feet, and she's been washing her hands so much recently they have been cracked and bleeding. It's a really harsh condition at the best of times
median wraith
Okay I don't know what just happened
but that was me from the future from what he said back in the time
pearl elk
yeah I got some better soap thats not real soap so hopefully that helps and some strong cream but I dont like using it cuz it thins the skin and can cause bleeds. I dont want sores on my hands with whats going on
tulip orbit
Woah, I missed some stuff.
pearl elk
as I said Ive been in close contact with someone from overseas, Im not stressed about getting the virus, just doing what Ive been told about self isolating if they show symptoms
verbal junco
@fathom wadi have you tried stuff like dove or liquid soap to see if it makes a difference?
median wraith
@deep glen at least we got a good amount of paper this days for the shitlists
fathom wadi
we found a steroid cream called Diprosone helps but its a pretty strong steroid. Usually helps with itching when its at it's most cracked
tulip orbit
Trying to get some proper audo for my guns, new sounds dont have enough Oomph ๐ฆ
fathom wadi
@verbal junco tried so much stuff its unreal. The wife has it too so theres years of experience too
verbal junco
ah damn
pearl elk
I got Advantan cream, its meant to be super strong stuff though
verbal junco
also be careful with steroids/anti inflammatory
fathom wadi
the only time my wife's cleared up was during pregnancy. There is something about it that calms down the whole thing.
fathom wadi
yeah I dont like to use steroidal creams, especially on my daughter, but when she's awake for several nights in a row, itching and not sleeping, it gives her some peace for sometimes a week to a month
pearl elk
wow hers must be really bad
fathom wadi
yeah
pearl elk
mine just peels and gets sore, not so much keeping me up.
fathom wadi
it doesn't get that bad all the time, but shes used to a persistent amount of it. Feel so bad for her tho. I know what it's like to keep getting woken up by itching. Really brings you down. But shes a happy little girl regardless.
pearl elk
Yeah and you dont want to walk around wearing latex gloves because you'll just cop shit for it
Mind you atm you'd probably get away with it
deep glen
pearl elk
looks alittle fishy
fathom wadi
deep glen
anyhoe, corona talk is fine, but keep in mind that everyone is experiencing it in their own way.
So if anything, try to be kind to eachother, and be helpful.
pearl elk
I really didnt mean to make it sound like I was freaking out, Im really not.
deep glen
fwiw, I didnt think you where
tulip orbit
whats really pissing me off about this whole thing, is where are the zombies?!
deep glen
but if you (or anybody) does get a panic attack. if needs be, dm me to vent :)
verbal junco
@tulip orbit dude it's like day 2 of quarantine
fathom wadi
I had to convince my wife to keep the kids home from school, but she was scared we would be fined. So they stay home and the school sends a message "can you let us know why the kids are not at school". Then a few minutes later another text from the school that said "we will be closing the school". It's like on one hand they are getting ready to fine us for not sending them, the next they tell us they will be closing. This is a corporate academy, a business. My kids are not collateral for their bad decision making tbh.
verbal junco
if movies taught us anything it'll be at least 28 days before the zombies come
deep glen
zombies over derpies buying tp :p
pearl elk
T Virus works abit quicker than that
deep glen
tp-virus
cursive crypt
Isn't there a new mod for Fallout already out? Caps to TP
tulip orbit
I dont wanna wait 28 days!
deep glen
@cursive crypt there is even a corona virus mod for stardew valley, because ofcourse there would be
pearl elk
schools are still open here for whatever reason
cursive crypt
Yay, way to go with the humor ๐
pearl elk
cornholio virus, cuz I need TP for my bunghole
winter zealot
walks in the discord chat dressed as bart simpson and rings a bell, " you don't need toiletpaper if you wipe your arse with water and an old piece of cloth that you can wash afterward ! " , " you don't need toiletpaper if you wipe your arse with water and an old piece of cloth that you can wash afterward ! "
pearl elk
tbh I had bad gastro a few weeks back so I already checked with the Dr to see if Im all good
cursive crypt
No need of old piece of cloth - really.
fathom wadi
I thought about making a model of a corona virus cell to make a quick buck, but then I thought "what if I actually die from it, right after I finish modelling it.". And I started thinking of some weird science type story. Then I was so paranoid I scrapped the entire idea and modelled a "peacefully in my sleep" instead.
cursive crypt
Just normal towel.
median wraith
cause is summer nothing happen in summer @pearl elk
tulip orbit
I just scoot on the ground outside. no TP or cloth needed
winter zealot
@cursive crypt are you a wizard ?? ๐ฎ also yeah towels are perfect if washed afterwards
cursive crypt
haha
Well, since years in our family we use water with small towels. Tbh, they are more clean that the ones for hands.
pearl elk
well for our Adelaide 500 race we already saw the lowest turn out of fans for the event, so things wernt going so well before all of this. Im slightly worried this will only make things worse
Im sure adult diapers are still a plenty at the shops
cursive crypt
I can imagine the topic for the next Game Jams ๐
verbal junco
pearl elk
Germ Jams
median wraith
Here you're only allowed to go the streets if you have work or you go to walk with a dog, so what about the guy that walks with a radiator that don't have dog
cursive crypt
Poor dude, his pet is radiator.
pearl elk
how come the path is all ribbed?
cursive crypt
They have it in some countries.
deep glen
@pearl elk for your pleasure
pearl elk
I must admit it is pleasing to the eye
but I can imagine skating on it, such vibrations
cursive crypt
Its good for kidney stones.
pearl elk
its an anti-slip thing isnt it for when its wet
cursive crypt
nsfh
pearl elk
my parents know better
verbal junco
I'm still out here working in the fields
pearl elk
or more like... they taught me everything i know ๐
cursive crypt
Don't say more.
pearl elk
more
cursive crypt
no, less
verbal junco
get a room already
pearl elk
I havent actually posted anything proper nsfw in ages
since Dizco left I dont need to post gangster rap in here anymore
cursive crypt
A side effect of this lockdown is that I'm stuck with big plate of eclaires and truffels which where for a office party.
It is hard...
pearl elk
Im rationing by using Samsung Health app
cursive crypt
I don't wish this to anybody.
pearl elk
Twitter is proper nsfw too, thats where banned instagram models go ๐
cursive crypt
Thought Instagram is for teens only?
cursive crypt
ugh... advice taken
pearl elk
it just removes the filter thing they got on some content
that facebook fake news filter is weird, its like wait up do you know this is fake
cursive crypt
Hm? You vote whether its Fake? Sorry neither Insta nor Fb user.
pearl elk
I dont have much idea how it got on there, Im assuming FB themselves mark it
cursive crypt
That algorithm would be interesting.
pearl elk
Im not even sure how they expect it to work because you could make a movie abit like District 9 which comes across like a real documentary then suddenly it goes fiction. If its believable though would the movie trailer need to be filtered
Maybe we need a disclaimer on the bottom corner of our games "this is a work of fiction"
I suppose if I were to watch some real war footage I might mistake it for a movie at first. I certainly did with the twin towers, first thing I asked was "what movie is this?"
quiet narwhal
grrr.. I should be on the way to san fran for GDC right now stopping off at every casino on the way and getting ready for 2 day of fun but... nope.... in an office avoiding people without any work lol
cursive crypt
There are online gambling machines, if you are in need.
pearl elk
Yeah I can imagine you would be really pumped to go
quiet narwhal
and its like randomly having to work in the office so I can't even watch the gdc stream on twitch
couple that with all the crap going into lockdown I can't even take a different vacation. /rude real life
tulip nova
Luos why are you making Keith do naughty things
pearl elk
I guess Im lucky I got a night out before all this stuff really started to go down. I knew there was some risk with going to an event with overseas peeps and staying in a hotel
cursive crypt
I feel somehow fine. Spend 1h today to trim/cut the rose bush in the garden. Was dzen.
cursive crypt
Well, between the work.
pearl elk
Im waiting for the wind to die down so I can get a chance to poison a few acres of bracken
cursive crypt
awww, why?
pearl elk
Hate working with that stuff though, crazy carcinogenic. Its a weed, it needs to be removed
cursive crypt
But are you gonna use that place for something? I don't think its so bad, it never gets so stuck it can't be removed.
pearl elk
going out in public is about the same procedure as I use for the poison anyways lol
yeah the bracken stops other things growing, its an underground vine
its mostly the canopy it creates it starves out any other plants of sunlight
cursive crypt
I see. Makes sense now wherever I have seen it. But still makes no sense if you are not going to use the place. As you said, pesticides are bad.
pearl elk
herbicide, this kills plants not pests ๐
cursive crypt
tru ๐
pearl elk
before I lived on a farm I wouldnt have known the difference hehe
cursive crypt
Im also fresh. But havent done much use of them to know.
pearl elk
theres some fields of the bracken over the road on someone elses property, they have about our entire property size in just bracken on theirs
cursive crypt
Well, you know.... I also have troubles with the house next to us. The grass goes big and is breeding paradise for snails, which spawn in waves to my garden.
For few years I felt like was defending against barbarians.
Then I found a solution...
The Great Ash Wall.
Now things are much better, but I pity the damn critters which die on it.
pearl elk
gotta do what you gotta do really, sometimes theres no other option
I let a redback spider live the other day, I was all like, its your lucky day mate
cursive crypt
Well, with time I would like to learn more "natural" approaches. There are some dudes I heard of around which can manage not small gardens with non-intrusive/abusive methods.
Good of you ๐
pearl elk
knowing my luck it'll kill one of our chooks
cursive crypt
Spiders do help with some pests tho in the house.
pearl elk
yeah and spiders keep away other spiders
cursive crypt
The hell it will kill a chook, how big is it?
cursive crypt
Well, that I can imagine, they stick anywhere and peck anything.
pearl elk
I suppose a chook could eat it, nice and juicy
cursive crypt
And so the new Spider Chook was born.
pearl elk
thats pretty scary, chook claws on 8 legs
cursive crypt
Hmm... saying it, I see some investment interest from certain companies.
pearl elk
Oscorp?
pearl elk
not sure the chickens biting customers would be good for business
cursive crypt
Well, the point is you got 8 legs on it. Whoever wins.
pearl elk
Female redbacks have an average of around 0.08โ0.10 mg of venom, and experiments indicate that the median lethal dose (LD50) for mice at room temperature is 10โ20% of this quantity (0.27โ0.91 mg/kg based on the mass of the mice used), but that it is considerably deadlier for mice kept at lower or higher temperatures.
Probably kill a big rabbit or a small fox
but if it were the size of a chook, thats around 5000% more venom
could probably take out an elephant ๐
cursive crypt
Hmm... pretty strong. That country is really famous for its dangerous animals, lol.
pearl elk
well we dont have any bears, so theres that
no hippos either
if you stay out of the ocean that reduces your risk by about 60%
from there its just snakes and spiders, easy ๐
cursive crypt
Kangaroos? These big runnin birds? Werent' also some frogs there?
pearl elk
lol if youre silly enough to shape up against a roo you deserve it
there are a few dangerous frogs yeah
but cone snails are the ones you really gotta watch for
speaking of roos I saw the big buck we have around here the other day, he was well over 6ft on his tail and he effortlessly cleared the fences
pearl elk
I try not to startle them cuz when they are scared they wreck the fences
so I hung back in my car and just watched all the boys scatter, usually its the females together but the males must have been hiding from the shooters
cursive crypt
Oh, do you have regular hunt groups going after them?
pearl elk
not on our properly but the adjacent ones do, which is probably why they came to hide on ours. If I had a gun though I woulda taken out the big fella
too many males is bad cuz they breed like crazy so you try to take only the biggest and leave the younger ones
cursive crypt
Damn... this sounds you like just bashing upon flies.
So by law, its always ok to shoot on sight?
pearl elk
yeah if you have a gun license and its on your property, youre just not allowed to shoot over property lines
the bullet if it passes through must still land on our property
cursive crypt
Are they so many? The roos?
pearl elk
yeah there are heaps, too many in alot of areas
cursive crypt
I see. Interesting.
pearl elk
the pack of females is about 100 roos
cursive crypt
lol
pearl elk
there was a pack of about 8 males so taking out the biggest wouldnt have really slowed em down much
but if I did shoot him the meat wouldnt have been wasted, the professional shooters sometimes leave em where they drop.
pearl elk
well when I kill stuff I use it but the professionals are paid just to cull the roos they arnt really interested in the meat
theyre shooters not hunters
cursive crypt
Ah, I see. But then it means you got maybe some coyotes or something around?
pearl elk
oh yeah the dead animals will attract the foxes, maybe wild dogs, we dont really get dingos down this far thankfully
feral cats are probably the worst, they can get big
cursive crypt
Hmm... considering the roos are so many and under fire so much, I thought there would be a lot of such leftover consumers.
Yeah, well... as I said, interesting country, lol.
In my place you gotta be lucky to see a Moose or a bear. Most of the times they don't care and run away.
And at best we have mildy poison snake and spider. That all for the dangers.
pearl elk
yeah we do sell roo meat at the shops so some people do take it in. Its pretty tough meat though and Im not sure Id recommend eating the tail
Moose would be intimidating though being so big
cursive crypt
Only if they are under hormonal pressure.
pearl elk
like a bigger fluffy cow with extra horns
cursive crypt
In fact, they are likely more dangerous than the bears.
pearl elk
but you might be able to do the same trick where you pick up a stick and use it like big horns to scare it
cursive crypt
Well... I got one friend telling me a story from his villa....
pearl elk
that works with the cows, if the stick is bigger than their horns
cursive crypt
One of these came out in the village and hoped over his fence (2m). There were group of hunters outside at some point. It busted everything inside his garden, plus it scared the shit out of these hunters.
It was shot mostly as self defence, because due to the hormones they stink as crazy as they are mad.
pearl elk
does it attract other animals?
cursive crypt
That was funny part. Seems it smelled the female goat of his neighborhood.
He told him that goat freaked out and snug inside his house, almost breaking the door. Guess she imagined.
They are also very noisy. Yelling around. Anyway, I can't tell much more about them my experience is reduced to just hearing them at taking routes around them.
pearl elk
lol goats are funny animals we have acouple
pearl elk
I actually thought cows were alot dumber too but theyre pretty smart. When I play ball with the dogs the goats and calves want to play too its pretty funny