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signal citrus
pearl elk
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Yeah I dont understand the motivations really, I kick into survivor mode in those scenarios, I dont bother talking about mundane stuff. Mind you I dont like doing that at the best of times 😛

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Oh theres zombies knocking on my door, quick break out the when I was a young lad monologue

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And Neegan omg, sure now if it made sense for him to monologue everyone into zombies

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if monologuing is the number one skill to have in a zombie apocalypse its pretty clear Quentin Tarantino is going to be king of everyone.

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I keep expecting like a Final Destination thing where its monologuing then BOOM, someones head just comes clean off or explodes

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Plot armour without having any plot 😛

median wraith
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it surprises me the number of errors in code I just see

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there are headers with duplicated functions without any sense

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    /** Similar to BufferMultiplyByConstant, but (a) assumes a buffer length divisible by 4 and (b) performs the multiply in place. */
    SIGNALPROCESSING_API void MultiplyBufferByConstantInPlace(AlignedFloatBuffer& InBuffer, float InGain);
    SIGNALPROCESSING_API void MultiplyBufferByConstantInPlace(float* RESTRICT InBuffer, int32 NumSamples, float InGain);
        ...
    /* Performs an element-wise weighted sum OutputBuffer = (InBuffer1 x InGain1) + InBuffer2 */
    SIGNALPROCESSING_API void MultiplyBufferByConstantInPlace(AlignedFloatBuffer& InBuffer, float InGain);
    SIGNALPROCESSING_API void MultiplyBufferByConstantInPlace(float* RESTRICT InBuffer, int32 NumSamples, float InGain);
fluid bloom
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bhahaha, russian parliament is proposing a modification to russian constitution. It would effectively erase the number of terms Putin has been the president and allow him to be the president again because then on paper he has been zero terms as the president

elfin zinc
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he will be president 4ever, one way or another

median wraith
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Why i always use _ in the functions inputs:

\Source\FlockingBehaviourSystem\Private\Boid.cpp(245): warning C4458: declaration of 'Boids' hides class member
\Source\FlockingBehaviourSystem\Public\Boid.h(209): note: see declaration of 'ABoid::Boids'
elfin zinc
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use in* addition

bold fulcrum
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@fluid bloom Is it still called president there? Pretty sure they opted back in for Tsar heh.

fluid bloom
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they realized the china model is simpler

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have "representation" in the form of parliament and then a president

odd mortar
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Sorry, just want to vent for a second:
I see people working on games alone. Some of them look pretty cool and I want to help them out with 3D/animation. For free. Seriously. I just want to work on cool stuff with people that know what they are doing on their end.

I get that it's a huge bragging right to make a game by yourself. But I'll reach out to these people and before things even get to the portfolio or anything, they just say "no thanks I'm not looking for help"

What's the deal with that? How could people refuse without any further discussion someone offering free help? Again, it's a bragging right to do something by yourself. I get that. But it also 100% inefficient and doesn't look like they are able to handle working in even a two man team or like they have some kind of "mine mine mine all me mine" way of thinking.

I like doing things my way as much as the next guy but even I know how inefficient and completely unrealistic it is to do literally everything by myself.

zinc matrix
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u dont go help ppl brush their teeth do u

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or do the peepee in the toilet

odd mortar
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I'll wait for the elaboration on this one...

deep glen
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no need to be mean/sarcastic

fluid bloom
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some people just don't want to bother coordinating and managing stuff with other people

bold fulcrum
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Free help can be more costly than paid work.

fluid bloom
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it's simpler to just do stuff on your own

deep glen
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having someone to unwrap your meshes for ya be nice :p

bold fulcrum
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Am I the only one with 3D past, that enjoys unwrapping ?

deep glen
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I do like it, but its so time consuming

fluid bloom
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I like unwrapping in max, hate it in blender

zinc matrix
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anyway if u wanna help me later

odd mortar
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@fluid bloom Depending on your definition of easier, I'd have to disagree. Not just with making games but with everything in life, any time spent doing one thing is time spent not doing another thing. Unless you end up working with someone just completely inadequate, it's almost impossible that you wouldn't see a gain in productivity adding someone to help with even minor things.

deep glen
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while that can be true, if you look at working at an office, it generally costs money to have an intern because skilled people need to help/train them, and therefore not spending time on actual development

fluid bloom
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doing stuff slower and it being easier aren't mutually exclusive

zinc matrix
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@odd mortar make me 3d models

fluid bloom
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and some people might just enjoy doing the stuff by themselves

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they don't necessarily care about peak efficiency

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managing and guiding the other people will always take time and it might not be something the person enjoys to do

zinc matrix
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i want 3d models of enemies that explode when shot and have like dismemberment

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like doom or dead space

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have it done in like 1-3 hours

deep glen
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<_< wondered why I couldnt select my edges in max, forgot to remove the uv-overlay in the texture

odd mortar
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@fluid bloom I can understand that. It's just sad to see people with potential possibly never have their project see the light of day simply because they are not open to receiving even the slightest modicum of help

zinc matrix
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see im trying to help u and u still are not making my 3d models

odd mortar
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Perhaps you've noticed I'm ignoring you because you present yourself as a substandard person

deep glen
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play nice now, both of you

lucid walrus
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@odd mortar If you do animation in Blender, I can send you something to animate later today if you want 🙂 I work alone on my game, but I know I'm going to need help in the future

zinc matrix
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maybe they feel you are a substandard person too and decline you

odd mortar
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Unlikely considering I generally provide a simple introduction expressing interest in their game and telling them what I can offer. Hardly anything that they could glean information about my character

deep glen
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@zinc matrix I said "behave", last warning

zinc matrix
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but all i did is hint him what the people he asked might think and did not insult him

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unlike him

deep glen
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you are being very annoying and childish.

odd mortar
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^

zinc matrix
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well i rather work alone then

sage tendon
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@odd mortar I would prefer to work alone as well as others do. Not because to able to say "I did it all myself", but to be able to think "I walked this journey and completed my quest". Its hard to express a visual thing with words. It can be a challenge to accept the work of another as its potentielly different than what I have in mind (visually or code wise). "Free" help comes often at the cost of being very costly in time instead of money. And someone like you is more an exception to this than an avarage

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I did take the leap of faith once, many years ago in a different kind of project, which ended up to bring way more problems and cost me so much time, I would rather avoid such situation again. Perhaps that also plays a part in the choice to prefer solo over a team. Of course, for some people I'm happy to make an exception and let them join my project. But it became a thing of "you have to earn a spot". Not out of arrogance, but out of fear of having to redo too many things. A nice way to find out how people work and what their capabilities are is a sweet game jam

rain steppe
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test

odd mortar
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@sage tendon That's fair. And as a matter of principle, I always offer to start off with a little test but I've never had anyone consider even that. I guess it just surprised me that I am encountering that situation more than I ever expected.
I'm working on my own game by myself which I'm fine with, but I guess I'm more open to having help pending they can prove a bit beforehand with a little test.

zinc matrix
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I TRAVEL DIS PATH ALONE and this is my quest

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kill 10 orcs.. bring orc leather..

deep glen
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jfc, max 2020 still has the random vert not showing bug until you collapse stack

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thats like 15 versions now

abstract haven
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lol max

sage tendon
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@deep glen Perhaps time to move to Blender? 😄

deep glen
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once I am done with the block-out/mood stage I might

sage tendon
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hehe, "Soon(TM)"

deep glen
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you know it

sage tendon
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I do, also thanks for your reply on my fb post, it was hearth warming 🙂

deep glen
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hug

zinc matrix
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LOOOL

carmine frigate
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well i allways bring my own k/b mouse 😛

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and ppl know better than to touch my crap

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corona is not the danger here

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using a german keyboard/touchpad or 1button mouse is just horrible

sage tendon
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touches @carmine frigate's keyboard

carmine frigate
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thats my virual keyboard 😛

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guess im a bit less dangerous on a global scale, not 100% sure tho

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sometimes i surprize even myself 😛

red basin
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so my G700s is going out

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anyone suggest a good similar mouse?

deep glen
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i have a trust gtx gms 505 and I like it, but mice are very personal

zinc matrix
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mans

alpine fern
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the g502 hero is very nice

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especially the scroll wheel

signal citrus
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would like if they made a mouse for wide hands

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they using our board luos

alpine fern
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ok but what the hell is that case

signal citrus
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probably where 10 grand of the 20 grand spent

alpine fern
signal citrus
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GG

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thing belongs in the center of a ice skating rink

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idk where he got that ram kit

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but with overclock on mine it's the same

deep glen
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hehe, in case you want to put the computer in the middle of living room

signal citrus
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lol 😂

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its for when you want to hide a computer in plain site

soft night
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or in tube

signal citrus
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"what is this sculpture thing?

soft night
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or but pc to inside counch

sage tendon
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I use a cheap 5 euro mouse as expensive ones keep breaking on me >.>

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Appearently i responded to an older message..

signal citrus
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forgiven

sage tendon
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Phew, was afraid I would burn in hell :P

signal citrus
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I feel like these open cases wouldn't keep the bugs out well

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and rgb is asking for it

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thats beyond me really remco

sage tendon
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That implicates that I would have get passed you to get to the gates of hell 🤔

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Are thou an angel?

signal citrus
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who knows

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i might just be john travolta or something

zinc matrix
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hi mates

ebon onyx
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Bumpoffset is where it's at. Let's go back to 2004 level detail.

signal citrus
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lol

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that big bottleneck

north torrent
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Just get a better GPU.

signal citrus
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its weird, not suggesting triangles are free either but stuff has gotten so much more optimized with plain triangle drawing than back when dx9 parallax was introduced, where shading seems to really where the bulk of time is spent now, even though that is also faster now

north torrent
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Get a better GPU...

signal citrus
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Min specs:
Get a better GPU...

north torrent
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Yes.

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Min specs: Stop being so cheap, buy a real computer

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Min specs: A PC that understands what Daylight Savings Time is.

tulip orbit
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Hmm. Blender, substance painter AND UE4 crashed while I was AFK

north torrent
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Get a better GPU...

carmine frigate
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yea but trist also add to shadow

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but high trist with extra shadow mesh is doable

tulip orbit
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@north torrent send money :p

carmine frigate
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trist in volume fog or something hits the cpu hard i believe

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but if it doesnt cast shadow its allright

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so adding 2k trist that isnt visible and just cast shadow might be cheaper

zinc matrix
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what is the best monitor setup? 1 huge screen, or multiple smaller ones? I like to have many things open at once. Like discord in one monitor, and unity or a game in another one.
But problem with one huge monitor: How do I tell the pc to put the game or unity on on the left side of monitor, and discord right, and google chrome under discord and so on?

fluid bloom
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win key + arrow keys

zinc matrix
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@fluid bloom sorry. that doesn't work goodly. horribly. only left and right. no up or down. and no 3 windows in one monitor

carmine frigate
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multiple monitors wil give more pixels for less money

fluid bloom
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corners work fine on my end

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discord just sucks and doesn't work with it for some reason

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every other app works

zinc matrix
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@fluid bloom corners? windows only supports left and right 2 windows in one screen. thats it.

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that is lame

fluid bloom
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but for other fancier stuff you might need a better window manager

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win 10 supports corners too

zinc matrix
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what are corners

fluid bloom
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screen corners

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you know, four windows each occupying the same size space

tulip orbit
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corners are the hottest part of the room, cause they're 90degrees

fluid bloom
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I need a bigger screen 😄

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anyway, at work I have two screens and it works great too

zinc matrix
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@fluid bloom then you need 40 inch screen if you want 4 windows in one screen lol

fluid bloom
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yeah I was just replying to this part:

How do I tell the pc to put the game or unity on on the left side of monitor, and discord right, and google chrome under discord and so on?

zinc matrix
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hm

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ah

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but how do you do that

north torrent
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Ultrawide is life.

All you have to worry about is left and right.

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Bonus is, you can watch a movie or play a game in 21:9 when you are done doing game design.

pearl compass
zinc matrix
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@north torrent and pay a lot more than 2x 24"

north torrent
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But can you play games on 2 24 inch monitors? No.

deep glen
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you can, though not sure id want my crosshair right in the middle of both screens

north torrent
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A thick black line in the middle of your picture as you watch a movie.

zinc matrix
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@north torrent is having 40 inch screen really that good if its 40cm away from you for gaming?

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nd dont forget if you want same quality in a 40 inch you need to pay A LORE MORE

carmine frigate
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i played MW2 on 3 monitors it was actually a big tactical advantage there

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u could see way more

zinc matrix
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@carmine frigate but only if you actively move your pupils

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in a distance of 1 meter probably? if 3 monitors wide

carmine frigate
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something like that, u can still spot movement verry well in the corners of ur eye'

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u just dont see what it is

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i dont think many shooters still have that option tho

deep glen
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in the dark the corners of your eye actually have better contrast than the center

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play game really dark :p

lost bison
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yea overwatch did a great job killing the fun when owning 21:9 screen

carmine frigate
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like monitor less light?

lost bison
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because ESPAHTS and locked resolution aspect ratio

carmine frigate
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they actively removed it there?

lost bison
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dumbest shit ever invented

carmine frigate
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i can see why in multiplayer tho

lost bison
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yea but

carmine frigate
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but damn it looks fine when it works

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like damn

north torrent
lost bison
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do you really need to be so hellbent on "equal playing field" that you're willing to drive customers away

carmine frigate
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that u remove the best version of ur product 😛

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seperate servers

lost bison
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ye Im cool with ranked matches being hardware restricted

zinc matrix
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hello guys how is it going the corona?

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xD

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we have 2cases new from 40 minutes, Bulgaria we have 6 for now

carmine frigate
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some1 stood too close to me at the supermarket so i just started coughing verry loud

north torrent
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My ultrawide monitor is in quarantine for 5 more days...

carmine frigate
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my good old smokers cough is keeping those ppl at a safe distance

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got about 6 billion closer to bein the richest man on earth today

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thats a win in my book

north torrent
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Toilet paper stocks?

carmine frigate
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nah Bezos took a big hit

north torrent
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In the balls?

carmine frigate
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i guess

north torrent
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Eat the rich!

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It looks like flights to Shanghai are cheaper now.

carmine frigate
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just a few more billion to go

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hopin it my side goin up next time

north torrent
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I think the world needs a lot more people with $5 million and a lot less people with $50 billion or more.

fluid bloom
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competitive people have ruined gaming

pearl compass
north torrent
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Do you remember Mario Paint on the SNES?

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Rollerball mouse with a hard plastic mousepad.

tulip nova
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Never forget

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I still have mine somewhere

nova finch
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I do not but that is amazing

zinc matrix
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for person in people:
if person.age > 60 or person.hp_percent < 50:
person.alive = False

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lol

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@north torrent is that game blazing sails? what is that game on your screenshot

zinc matrix
deep glen
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lol

zinc matrix
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like Stand from Jojo?

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i thought stephen king died long ago

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seems hes all fine and dandy

deep glen
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he even made a camio in the latest IT movie sequalthingy

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because thats all the rage

late night
tulip orbit
tawny herald
rich quiver
dim ruin
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I'm going through this old "2000 Fonts" disk I got for $4.99 at WalMart like 15 years ago and man, these fonts are fucking terrible lol

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There's none of the typical ones like Times Roman, Consolas, etc. At least not using those names

agile egret
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I needz mor ZPU!!!

dim ruin
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wtf is that?

agile egret
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mor cors!

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(I want to build engine in under 15 minutes, this is nuts)

dim ruin
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this is what the interwebs tells me zpu is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZPU

ZPU

For the ZPU microprocessor, see ZPU (microprocessor).The ZPU (Russian: зенитная пулемётная установка, meaning "anti-aircraft machine gun mount") is a family of towed anti-aircraft gun based on the Soviet 14.5×114mm KPV heavy machine gun. It entered service with the Soviet Unio...

agile egret
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Thats about right

dim ruin
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how long does a fresh engine build take you right now?

solar nebula
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20 engine builds per second

dim ruin
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and that includes handwriting the punchcards first too!

agile egret
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enough time I forget what I was doing in the first place xD

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No timer, but I'd have to guess 20-30 minutes

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1492 seconds

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25 minutes

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(full build)

dim ruin
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thats not that bad

real palm
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yeah that's a pretty good time IMO

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hard to get better than that w/o TR

agile egret
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I'm on T/R

real palm
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?

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which one

agile egret
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1920x

real palm
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Ah

dim ruin
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not bragging but I get 18-22 mins on an i7 7700k

agile egret
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ye 12 core

real palm
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2950

dim ruin
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this system is carefully pieced together specifically as a hardcore workhorse though lol

agile egret
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I just spent 400 on a 2070 and ~200 on a new power supply

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the 3990x will have to wait xD

real palm
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lmao

signal citrus
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Want

real palm
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Yeah, that's off in the distance for me

dim ruin
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except for my outdated cpu lol

agile egret
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Sorry, I think you meant need

real palm
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turns out I don't really do much engine fiddling these days

dim ruin
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holy shit, that thing has 64 cores

agile egret
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I don't either, but someone got uwp working again on 4.20

signal citrus
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I’d have to find a home for the 3970x

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Eh engine compile is still 14m for me

real palm
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what're you running

signal citrus
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Build solution

real palm
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ah

agile egret
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after cleaning?

signal citrus
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Fast nvm too shrug

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From scratch

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I want to say it’s UHT

agile egret
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I could probably put it on my nvme, but since its a side project, so its on my 8 year old ssd

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@dim ruin I'm kidding, I would need to get ANOTHER new power supply, and a new mobo, and tons of ramz

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I'll move up to like a 3rd gen 24 core or something

dim ruin
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no doubt. thats a sexy cpu though

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would be awesome for builds

agile egret
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or hell, normal destop ryzen (3rd gen) is actually an option now too

dim ruin
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I haven't had an amd processor in quite a while, since Phenom II I think, but fuck Intel sideways for what I had to pay for a 7700K

agile egret
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lol

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I've always been an AMD fanboy, but when core2duo came out you best believe I was team Intel xD

dim ruin
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when I did this build, Ryzan was just about to release and not enough was really known yet. The whole "p silica shortage" nonsense was peaking so ram cost more than twice what it does now. brutal lol

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If I built the same PC budget now with ram and ssd prices + new processors, ugh I could have an incredible machine

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I'll definitely be considering amd for my next build though unless Intel does something groundbreaking, which I doubt

agile egret
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when AMD released the 64core, its was a pure "f*** you" to intel, because the best intel has to offer is 32 core. Like its was purely a "put em in their place" move (speaking in terms of consumer hardware)

dim ruin
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lol

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its good to see amd pushing intel though. intel had the market cornered for way too long and just milked it, not much innovation from them for so long

agile egret
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exactly (had to fix my mistakes above)

plucky pagoda
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Anyone else had a hard time getting credit cards to work with discord?

broken sigil
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Still extremely happy with my i9 9900k, if I was building a new pc again would probably still choose i9 over AMD. Wondering how many people will get triggered by this lol

Not a fanboy just AMD still hasn't matched Intel's single thread performance. Would rather not give my money to either of them, both shitty companies with scummy marketing

zinc matrix
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nn

signal citrus
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Your splitting hairs in single core performance, nearly the same

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Half as many cores compared to 3950x and 4 less than 3900x

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Not triggered though, nor a fanboy it’s just not going to be as good of an experience with game dev. A 3900x would compile shaders quite a lot faster

broken sigil
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You can't compare those, not even same price range as 3950x

Well it takes me about 20min to compile the engine on i9, highly doubt 3900x would be any faster

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Judging from the benchmarks

signal citrus
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That test has all the CPU’s clocked the same

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You can see how amd is kicking intels butt outside of raw processing speed.

hardy yacht
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in games i9 beat them all

signal citrus
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In playing games yep

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It is at the top of the list there, specifically the 9900ks

broken sigil
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The thing is would you underclock your cpu?

signal citrus
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No but what I’m trying to say is effective speed is not purely the ghz

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9900k is in no way head and shoulders above a 3900x

broken sigil
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Yes amd is more efficient, 7nm and all that
But isn't really a fair comparison when one cpu is running 1ghz slower than it should

hardy yacht
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I'd still go for the default intel + nvidia setup for gaming despite all benchmarks

signal citrus
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1ghz slower on one core and 600mhz on the amd

hardy yacht
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i have some trust issues with ASMD, don't know why

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AMD

signal citrus
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Yeah you should consider amd liviu intel is really doing badly in comparison of value

broken sigil
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I never had problems with neither their previous CPUs nor GPUs and I had both

signal citrus
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They are the peak for gaming but not for production

hardy yacht
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i guess it stuck with me from back in the days when AMD was just cheaper and weaker

signal citrus
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Yeah while intel was putting out the same quad core cpu annually lol

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Amd seemed to have learned it’s ways so far

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But yeah I hope they don’t return to budget quality/lesser

broken sigil
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The thing is if amd was in intel's position they would have been doing the same, sell same cpus for years with barely any improvements

signal citrus
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They’re announcing 4000 series desktop this month

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3000 series came out in June

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I don’t think it’ll do well if it’s not better on a similar scale (2700x to 3700x)

broken sigil
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I don't plan on upgrading for the next 2 years at least, if then amd becomes king in both multi and single performance it's going to be my choice

signal citrus
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9900k isn’t bad at all

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Just wouldn’t claim it to be better than other things in its price category rn

broken sigil
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Also where I live everything is overpriced, i9 cost me 1100$ here which makes me rethink my life choices

hardy yacht
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we gotta also consider the benchmark software to be biased towards certain brands.

signal citrus
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Eh it’s usually intel that benefits from having adobe specific boost hardware

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And bias is usually because they have way more threads unless intel is blatantly cooling things wrong lol

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Userbenchmark or whatever limits their benches to 4 cores now

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You know how silly that is? Lol

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Thing has 32 cores and they are comparing 8

hardy yacht
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and what do we trust?

broken sigil
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I'm curious what CPUs we will have in 2 years lol

hardy yacht
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because in this one intel is clearly above

broken sigil
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I9 9900k has a big plus over amd tho

It can be used as a room heater in winter

signal citrus
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The 500 dollar intel beats out the 2000 dollar thing with four times as many cores running at “slightly” slower speeds?

hardy yacht
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeellllll

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this is wwhat i see

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:))

signal citrus
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Site is a joke now lol

hardy yacht
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i guess all benchmarking is kind of a joke. put the software open source and let's see the real results.

signal citrus
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Lol 214 percent, 14th rank

hardy yacht
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that is defenitely biased towards intel

signal citrus
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They also misreport pcie4 rates

hardy yacht
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also the amount of benchmarks done is a factor. in 160k becnhmarks you'll have thousands of super-optimized builds

signal citrus
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Which is something intel doesn’t have

hardy yacht
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with AMD at nearly 500 benchmarks submitted

signal citrus
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But they’re only testing 8 of 32 cores

hardy yacht
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yeah...

north torrent
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I like pie.

signal citrus
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10700k sounds like it’ll dethrone 9900k

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But I’m wondering if ryzen4000 series will beat them to it

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In terms of playing games I mean

north torrent
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Will there be games in 2020?

signal citrus
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I think so

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Starting to look like doom eternal will come out but we’ll see

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It sounds like what’s been happening is it ends up being that you have to allocate time for play testing. It can’t be predetermined how long such thing would take

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It’s nice because at e3 you get to pretend like your game is coming out way earlier than it will

north torrent
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It will be released the same time Karol makes a game.

zinc matrix
#

im so tired

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meh

soft night
#

what is that tired thing

gilded gale
#

A prelude to the mythical realm of "sleep" i keep hearing about.

soft night
#

I always Thread.Sleep(2000);

sage tendon
#

Not 28800?

sage tendon
#

E3 got cancelled

pearl elk
#

No E3 without Geoff Keighley

soft night
#

noooooooooo

#

humans what are you doing

carmine frigate
#

can i change editor files from the launcher version?

#

or do i need source build?

fluid bloom
#

no, it's a built binary. You can only extend functionality

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you need the source

carmine frigate
#

ahh that must be why everything keeps giving errors

pearl elk
#

Im expecting you all to make amazing games for when the quarantine is over

#

No blaming conventions getting in the way so you're all out of excuses -_-

soft night
#

damn what is happening on russia side

zinc matrix
#

@soft night what u mean?

soft night
#

there have being lots of booms on this morning

zinc matrix
#

BOOMS?

#

oh

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explosions

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idk, havent heard

soft night
#

they could train near border or something

pearl elk
#

ok boomer

sage tendon
#

Just say "Oi, knock it off!"

pearl elk
#

yeah nah cant

soft night
#

i got similar reports on city facebook group

pearl elk
#

Hey guys I need some help with something

#

can someone teach me to 2 step?

sage tendon
#

sure, no problem. after step 1 just follow up with the next step

pearl elk
#

baby steps or adult steps?

sage tendon
#

depends on the step size

pearl elk
#

i=3.624432984

#

can we calculate my optimal trajectory?

sage tendon
#

only if you know the volocity and any force changes

pearl elk
#

Seems the trick is being blue not green

deep glen
hazy delta
#

do they? do they really?

deep glen
#

"we look forward to see the things you downloaded and kitbashed back onto our website"

hazy delta
#

you say 'things', but you mean 'horrible nightmare creations from the depths of insanity'

zinc matrix
#

hello

hazy delta
#

hi

zinc matrix
#

I just trained an army of penguins

zinc matrix
#

well, so next 2 weeks we have nation wide quarantine

pearl elk
#

I hope you have toilet paper

zinc matrix
#

Just came back from shopping. Shelfs gets empty. Couldn't get rice.

pearl elk
#

Its not too bad here, few things are missing. Like tuna on sale was all gone

hasty escarp
#

Playing a game within a game..going down the rabbit hole. 🐰

zinc matrix
#

gross

#

i get chills from weirdness of that

fluid bloom
#

aaaaaa, finally finished black mesa

#

took 22 hours or so

#

xen was like... ten times longer

zinc matrix
#

@pearl elk WTF bro women on this video are wild

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but people impressed by that are men enslaved by their sexuality and biology

#

these women do this for men impressions, not becuz they like dancing, but bcuz they like to show off

fluid bloom
#

that's borderline neckbeard stuff

zinc matrix
#

what ?

median wraith
zinc matrix
#

@fluid bloom what u mean neckbeard stuff

signal citrus
#

Shave chin beard but let that neck grow freely right?

atomic barn
#

I think "neckbeard" in this context refers to the misogyny

thin storm
#

"obsessive interest in computing" lol what does that even mean

signal citrus
#

makes sense urist i wasn't scrolled up high enough

solar nebula
#

@fluid bloom no borders or lines about that neckbeard

north torrent
#

Time to go to Italy!

soft night
#

time to go space

north torrent
#

Invest in the stock market.

stiff crystal
#

imagine going to ISS with corona virus

signal citrus
#

@hearty cliff 3900x is a great choice

#

alternative in same price range would be the 9900k (I don't know if this is still true on price)

#

But 3900x is the clear winner in if your game developing, would go with 9900k if your exclusively game playing

carmine frigate
#

single thread advantage isnt that big

signal citrus
#

not at all

#

like your gaming experience on a 3900x is going to be butter

#

they just asked about things in similar price range

carmine frigate
#

amd wil prolly give the better bang atm

hearty cliff
#

Yeah I do both, but right now I have a i5-6600k so either is going to better, but I am in school for game dev since it's what I want to do

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So I would rather set myself up for that

signal citrus
#

its way more better value with the 3900x yeah

hearty cliff
#

the i5 has been doing me well for about 2 years

carmine frigate
#

66 is still decent

signal citrus
#

nah

hearty cliff
#

just for rendering it is sooooooo slow

signal citrus
#

If your still on a quad core in game dev its time to upgrade

carmine frigate
#

depends on what ya do 😛

hearty cliff
#

Yeah, I mean my laptop has a i7-9850H

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which is better than the desktop

#

lol

signal citrus
#

not really owninator

#

pretty much everything can utilize more than 8 threads now

hearty cliff
#

The majority of games though still utilize about 4

signal citrus
#

i would go as far as to say, they demand it

hearty cliff
#

unless they are brand new

#

and have the higher demand

signal citrus
#

yes games

hearty cliff
#

but game dev, more cores

north torrent
#

Is working with UMG on an i7-920...

hearty cliff
#

for sure

carmine frigate
#

it can still sculpt, as long as u dont need to compile shaders all the time it can be fine for a lot of things

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like anims and BPS

#

logic stuff

signal citrus
#

i'm not saying you can't live life on quad core still

#

but thing is that the arms race for core count has been dormant for almost a decade

carmine frigate
#

also means if u can hold for 6 months ur cpu wil gain a bunch of UPC and Hz again

signal citrus
#

things are only going to get worse trying to stay on quad core while everyone advances to 8, 16, 32, 64

carmine frigate
#

IPC

signal citrus
#

well waiting for the next thing is always something

carmine frigate
#

i would have sticked with my 4770k for another gen if it didnt break 😛

signal citrus
#

that bench shows what your saying about ipc very well

carmine frigate
#

3600 with mobo and ram only set me back like 450$ so if u dont go all out its not too bad

signal citrus
#

all the cpus are clocked the same there

#

tbh

#

4770k to anything recent even a r5

#

it should feel night and day even though the literal operating frequency may not be much difference

carmine frigate
#

i dont trust the corona 1.3 benchmark 😛

#

yea its way faster

#

but also UE4 and faster ram

north torrent
#

So basically the 3700x is better than the 3900x...

carmine frigate
#

ram speed is more than double aswel

signal citrus
#

based on what Quix Mix Mao?

north torrent
#

Based on that link.

carmine frigate
#

but the IPC gain over this short time is crazy

signal citrus
#

higher is better in some of these and lower is better in some of these

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3700x is generally not ahead of 3900x unless i missed one

hearty cliff
#

I mean for how close the 3700 is to a lot of the graphs you could argue for the price it's better, but statistically, it's overall better

signal citrus
#

the 3700x is meant to directly compete with the 9900k yeah

#

which it does well in specifically the cost difference and coming with cooling yeah

#

where the 3900x is the entry r9

carmine frigate
#

there wasnt really a discount for cores when goin a tier up when checked

#

like 2 6cores same price as a 12 core

signal citrus
#

it should be the opposite

#

there is more value in having more cores

carmine frigate
#

yea prolly 😛

signal citrus
#

render farms are great and all but they are a lot of nonsense compared to just having a computerlab in a box

carmine frigate
#

it both has some advantages 😛

#

altho its just the core price not mobo and other stuff

signal citrus
#

yeah

#

3990x for example at 3990 dollars

carmine frigate
#

kinda bummed my old mobo died, could have used it for other stuff

signal citrus
#

its a good deal when you compare it to the 3970x at 2000 dollars when its double the cores and effectively the same speed

north torrent
#

Fix it.

signal citrus
#

did the caps go or what?

carmine frigate
#

the bios got fried or something

#

i think it was some auto update from some msi mobodriver thing

signal citrus
#

thats an easy fix compared to caps

carmine frigate
#

nah no flashback

#

or usb flash

#

cmos reset also didnt work

signal citrus
#

i bricked my router with a bad flash

carmine frigate
#

yea i didnt even flash it, so its totally weird

signal citrus
#

and these things usually have procedures for unbricking via a diagnostic link and ssh

#

was able to unbrick it

carmine frigate
#

well its water under the bridge now 😛

#

its on my pile o dead hardware

bronze axle
#

Mmm, all those cores.

#

Definitely looking at going with Ryzen 9 for my next workstation upgrade.

signal citrus
#

i'm interested to see what comes from intel

#

10700k might be a return to grace for i7

#

but yeah r9 is probably gonna remain the option

bronze axle
#

I don't expect anything from them that can compete on price-to-performance ratio.

#

The 3900x looks incredible for the price.

signal citrus
#

I don't either but I do imagine they have quite a security amount of profit they could drop on the chips if they wanted to compete

bronze axle
#

Quite possible. Will be interesting to see what their next lineup looks like for sure.

signal citrus
#

we're way past due for some branding beyond the i series

#

go back to pentium or something cool. lol

bronze axle
#

Their latest chips have terrible, confusing branding. What is up with that? 😩

signal citrus
#

lol the ten seven seventy k

bronze axle
#

Ice Lake and Comet Lake have awful naming conventions.

signal citrus
#

or the ten thousand seven hundred k

open wing
#

Does an Int / float get rounded up or down :> ?

signal citrus
#

🙄

#

"we logic this way"

bronze axle
#

lol

#

It's bonkers to me that they went this route.

signal citrus
#

better than 1660ti which reads like: Yeah this is cheap shit, its not worth that 1000 abstract number increase, its worth about 540 of those

bronze axle
#

Hahah yeah.

#

I give Xbox a lot of shit for their branding, but I think this is worse.

signal citrus
#

ye lol

hearty cliff
#

What about the PS5 logo?

#

Ingenious

signal citrus
#

xbox one ten x

bronze axle
#

The PS5 logo looks fine, and I immediately know what it is.

signal citrus
#

oh god they have a logo?

#

is this ps3 again?

hearty cliff
#

It's just the PS4 logo, but they changed it to a 5 lol

signal citrus
#

ah PS5 is not bad, i thought you meant the playstation logo

bronze axle
#

Xbox, on the other hand, is transitioning from Xbox One X to Xbox Series X. think360

hearty cliff
bronze axle
#

I think the PS5 logo is fine. It works, it's obvious, it's clear.

signal citrus
#

and everyone will be like my iphone ten s plus is no xbox one ten series ten

hearty cliff
#

It's just that the new logo doesn't actually scream new to me

#

I guess that is the theory behind it

signal citrus
#

i believe ps4 has a brand problem personally'

bronze axle
#

The PS5 logo is probably a good indicator that they want it to feel familiar.

signal citrus
#

it was so great but then pspro made it irrelevant

#

tapped the brakes too much on it

hearty cliff
#

Like there was a change from PS3 to PS4 and there were some great changed between the two

bronze axle
#

How does PS4 Pro make the PS4 irrelevant? Most people don't need a PS4 Pro.

signal citrus
#

it makes it irrelevant by being utterly pointless and behind xbox

bronze axle
#

I don't understand what you mean.

signal citrus
#

most people don't need a ps4 pro because they aren't worth it

#

so now the whole ps4 family has been trailing xbox one x for years

bronze axle
#

Oh, I thought you were saying the Pro made the original PS4 irrelevant.

signal citrus
#

nah, just that they aren't competing anymore

bronze axle
#

In what way is PS4 trailing Xbox? Raw specs?

signal citrus
#

Raw gaming experience yeah

hearty cliff
#

It seems like they are just shooting for different audiences now

bronze axle
#

Certainly not sales or market share. This has been a great generation for PlayStation.

signal citrus
#

xbox one x is easily hands down the most powerful thing out there. its not even a contest between ps4 pro and x so if your someone looking for the best experience it has n't been ps4 in a long time

hearty cliff
#

Like they used to butt heads like crazy, but now they have different end-goals it seems

bronze axle
#

PlayStation and Xbox have always targeted different audiences.

hearty cliff
#

Like it's much more obvious what they are wanting

bronze axle
#

That depends on whether you equate raw power with "the best experience". For some, PlayStation's UX, catalog, or both, may easily trump anything Xbox has to offer.

hearty cliff
#

Perhaps I just never noticed it in older gen consoles

signal citrus
#

Yeah its just every other console generation the baton of caring of the players experience and focus on game gets passed in exchange of dominating your living room, starting some video delivery service, and focusing on tv entertainment in general

#

Xbox one X mostly makes up for all the mistakes they made in being confident about their audience following them anywhere they want to go.

#

where PS3 did the same thing the previous entire generation in exchange for bluray dominance

bronze axle
#

PS3 was a poor generation for Sony. I wouldn't compare it to the Xbox One X, either.

signal citrus
#

I would 100% compare it to the Xbox One (non x lol) though

bronze axle
#

Why? It's from a different generation.

signal citrus
#

In terms of clearly putting the core experience to the side for some other endeavor

bronze axle
#

Ah, I see.

hearty cliff
#

I wish all versions of the PS3 would have remained backwards comp

signal citrus
#

Kinect 2 wasn't cheap

hearty cliff
#

Fortunately I can throw a PSX game into my PS3, but there were some great PS2 games that I own and would love to play again without having to own another system

#

Or purchase again digitally and use up space that already gets used so quickly from the massive size of games now

signal citrus
#

Did they say PS4 will play on PS5 yet?

hearty cliff
#

Last I read it won't

signal citrus
#

I've been absent of all this news

#

That wouldn't surprise me one bit

hearty cliff
#

Don't know if there has been anything different, but I highly doubt it

signal citrus
#

I know they said cutting out the ps2 support on the later in life ps3 was for cost reduction

hearty cliff
#

But how much more would it have costed vs their profits. I bet many more people would have continued to stick with Playstation for that one reason

bronze axle
#

I haven't read anything about backwards compat on PS5.

signal citrus
#

i imagine for some studios its more cost effective to sell something that is backwards compatible than have to compete with backwards compatibility in a reboot or remake

hearty cliff
#

I know I was super upset when I got my PS3 and realized it wasn't back comp

signal citrus
#

I do wonder if the plan all along with last of us was to release it right at the end of the console's life

#

like its a great game and the ps4 version is good but it bugs me a bit

hearty cliff
#

Oh you just bought The Last of Us on PS3, but now you want a PS4 and the ability to play your PS3 game on it??

signal citrus
#

and look now

#

last of us part ii

hearty cliff
#

yep

plucky pagoda
#

Ps4 has a much better experience and environment for gaming. Especially when you look at Xbox one's cluttered inane UI and fragmented services. Overall Sony has the better setup they just keep making unfathomably poor decisions.

signal citrus
#

@rare sparrow are you still working on the road thing?

#

and Mike, I would agree that ps4 had the better experience

#

until everything ran and looked way better on xbox one x

soft night
#

ps4 ui is too complex

plucky pagoda
#

I think it's much simplier than what Xbox has. It's literaly a single menu bar with a scrolling row of icons below it.

hearty cliff
#

I hate Xbox's UI

plucky pagoda
#

It's design is a symptom of the whole gaming, blending, slow cooking, all in one philosophy they were tied to.

#

Where as PS4 is 100% focused on gaming

signal citrus
#

was

plucky pagoda
#

Sure, but still mostly.

#

Sony just keeps botching everything. Like VUE was hands down the best streaming service but they made bad choices with cutting channels and packages and killed it.

north torrent
#

I wish my slow cooker worked with my videogames...

#

Slow cooker = life

plucky pagoda
#

Today I feel like my game is disolving in a slow cooker

signal citrus
#

wish nintendo would take consoles serious again

plucky pagoda
#

I wish they'd stop trying to find a new gimmick and just make a good console

signal citrus
#

make the hardware the gimmick like everything before wii

plucky pagoda
#

My kids still play the Wii.

signal citrus
#

now we are just spoon fed nearly the same thing from both competitors

carmine frigate
#

yea ps and xbox are basically the same

signal citrus
#

Its hard to think of nintendo not trying to put another screen on something or some weird controller

carmine frigate
#

its all about what ur frieds have i guess

#

wii U was super cool

signal citrus
#

well xbox one x is noticeably better

carmine frigate
#

id love to make something for a wii U sorta console

signal citrus
#

and ps4 was noticably better than xbox one

carmine frigate
#

the a-symetric gameplay was super dope

dim ruin
#

I kinda think the switch is stupid

#

not kinda, I straight up think its stupid

plucky pagoda
#

They keep comprimising to do those things though and it kills their market share. Although, last time I looked the switch was gaining and gettting close in market share.

dim ruin
#

I do prefer the xbox one but I wish they'd stop dogging us on these low storage options out of the box

signal citrus
#

docked mode on switch is probably the most gimmicky thing

#

even compared to wiiu

north torrent
#

If I had kids I can't see me every buying them an Xbox or Playstation... What do they have, maybe two or three games total that are child appropriate?

carmine frigate
#

well i bought the wiiU for the price of a preorder full DLC game

#

and its some cool hardware

signal citrus
#

sliding a console into some landing bay to play on the big screen

dim ruin
#

and most likely the new xbox will probably be strictly cloud storage because cloud is the cool new hotness

plucky pagoda
#

They have games, but the Wii has things like Kirby

carmine frigate
#

they have supr cool games

plucky pagoda
#

Sony has the a couple of good series for kids but yeah not enough.

north torrent
#

I don't see how something can be super practical and gimmicky at the same time, Mr. Soulless Pat.

Now buttons on phones, that's a gimmick.

dim ruin
#

yeah nintendo will always be the most family-oriented system

carmine frigate
#

well WiiU

plucky pagoda
#

Because it's not as good as a dedicated console

#

for people who want to couch co-op

north torrent
#

But you can't take a dedicated console to your office at work.

signal citrus
#

But its not a dedicated console

dim ruin
#

maybe you can't :p

signal citrus
#

its a portable that plugs into tvs

north torrent
#

As a teacher, I can tell you that half the teachers in my office spend more time playing Nintendo Switch that doing actual school stuff.

dim ruin
#

lol

#

awesome

signal citrus
#

"Trust us console lovers this is totally a console"

plucky pagoda
#

I'd rather just have the best console myself. Idc, if it's portable.

north torrent
#

Then they can go home and use it on a TV.

#

Practical.

carmine frigate
#

there was this one wiiU game that used the controller as a mobile phone and shit like that

signal citrus
#

my phone can do this though, is it a video game console?

dim ruin
#

those ROG phones are fucking awesome

signal citrus
#

they are, and they are more useful as mobile devices too

dim ruin
#

I'd touch someone's winky for one

plucky pagoda
#

If Nintendo were to come out with just a console, no new controllers with belly button motion plugs or whatever I'd buy three at least.

dim ruin
#

lol

carmine frigate
#

lol if ur buying pc hardware and dont like gaming, the branding must be horrible

north torrent
#

That is basically like saying, "My plate can also hold rice, so bowls are impractical"

Another item on the market being able to do something does not have anything at all to do with the discussion of whether a feature is practical or a gimmick.

signal citrus
#

are bowls plates though?

carmine frigate
#

i usually eat my rice from a plate

dim ruin
#

ok so what about a spork?

#

that is legit practical

north torrent
#

No... I literally just taught my 2nd grade Chinese students the difference between dishes...

signal citrus
#

lol

north torrent
#

Everything should be eaten out of a waffle cone.

signal citrus
#

i just mean when they say its a console that can move, no

dim ruin
#

introduce them to the spork. turn their world upside down

signal citrus
#

i like switch too

#

but this is a portable

north torrent
#

I personally only play games on a desktop PC. I personally don't like using a laptop for anything unless it is my only option, I never even owned a laptop until 2016.

Last console I owned was an Xbox 360, last portable console I owned was a Gameboy Color.

#

But, I also have eyes.

dim ruin
#

holy shit

#

old school

north torrent
#

And I can see other people that exist.

#

And it is clear that many people have a lot of use for the Nintendo Switch.

plucky pagoda
#

I've got 4 kids from 18 to 3. We've got at least 2 of most of the consoles, mutliple DSs etc...

dim ruin
#

get them into tablet gaming

north torrent
#

When over half the teachers in my office are playing Nintendo Switch instead of working, it is pretty evident that it is a practical thing to play for someone who is a teacher and not a game designer like myself.

signal citrus
#

yeah i'm not saying switch is pointless at all but, was just saying the gimick of it beyond it being essentially a smart phone with removable joysticks and stand is that it connects to a tv

plucky pagoda
#

I'm not saying that either, I'm saying I'd rather have a dedicated portable and a dedicated console

signal citrus
#

like excellent games on it, that can only be found on it

dim ruin
#

if you're gonna use the witch as a portable, better be real; delicate with it

north torrent
#

But it isn't a gimmick. It is a core feature that has carved Nintendo a major spot in the industry.

signal citrus
#

the thing is literally called switch

#

and they just released a portable only version of it

plucky pagoda
#

It's still lowest by market share, unless that's changed. Nintendo should have more market share given the IPs they own and the games they have.

signal citrus
#

switch lite: now with no switch

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, thought about getting one but the price difference isn't really sufficient to make it apealing.

#

and then it can't play all the games the switch can

signal citrus
#

i don't get it at all

#

it seems like abandoning ship

#

not unlike the 2ds

plucky pagoda
#

I'm hopeful it means a straight up console is in the works, but not that hopeful

quiet narwhal
#

the switch lite is good for people who want a 2nd portable only unit for like online stuff

plucky pagoda
#

ah,

#

I don't like having to take the time to figure out what games it can and can't use

signal citrus
#

is it though? is it primarily the battery life difference?

north torrent
#

I thought it was just the new Gameboy...

signal citrus
#

lol

quiet narwhal
#

for example I have a switch modded that I use for all my offline stuff. The lite I use for online only like Dauntless, diablo 3, warframe and other online games

signal citrus
#

do you just keep the modded one docked at all times?

plucky pagoda
#

ah, we still use the Wii moded with gamecube and old school NES controllers

carmine frigate
#

yea u can use the wiiU for all sorts of remote controll stuff too

plucky pagoda
#

what can you mod on the switch?

signal citrus
#

everything kinda

quiet narwhal
#

the modded one is docked and undocked, mainly docked using a mayfair to control it with a ps4 controller lol

plucky pagoda
#

NIce, not familiar but those controllers have always put me off the switch

carmine frigate
#

real mods are done on the powerglove tho

signal citrus
#

nvidia forgot to remove the debug switch (not really of course, they knew it was there)

carmine frigate
#

nitendo stuff allways been good for modding

#

wasnt it the gameboy advanced to was used to unlock features in some cars?

#

that zelda savegame hack was weird aswell

#

i didnt touch my wiiU, its a collectors item 😛

#

when the remote gets busted its 1 less wiiU in the world

dusky shuttle
#

i'm looking for foot pedals that can be mapped to work in non-gaming apps, any ideas?

signal citrus
#

on windows?

dusky shuttle
#

yes

signal citrus
#

xinput is pretty simple of an api to integrate

#

which most 360, one wheels and pedals are compatible with

#

most of these run the pedals through the wheel though

zinc matrix
#

Midi one?

signal citrus
#

midi would work too

#

btw offline, compile nodes are nuts

#

i keep running into things in houdini that i should have known existed before hand lol

zinc matrix
#

nice

#

Houdini is heavy. Compile nodes suck. Rigging is slow. Expressions are even worse spaghetti than blueprints on worst day.
Of course you not gonna complain if you not gonna make system that uses 30-40 custom digital assets with ton of attributes etc.

#

If you have a node with 10 outputs and each will output modified geometry from input, node have to create copy of this geometry 10 times.

signal citrus
#

that explains my 32gb of memory use

#

But being able to nail uv layout with a unpack and pack around it in a threaded nature is nice.

#

Idk what is up with the uv nodes constantly crashing too

zinc matrix
#

They do? I don't use them. never liked built in UV solution.

signal citrus
#

as soon as they start merging grains in the readout, if you press escape it eventually crashes houdini in the two versions i've tried so far

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and yeah super time intensive, i have to take a look at rizom stuff for sure, but i'm not sure how / if that would work with the houdini engine plugin?.

plucky pagoda
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Wait, are you saying Houdini can automate UV unwrapping or I am just reading that with wishful thinking.

signal citrus
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yeah mike but it is slow'ish

plucky pagoda
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Is it anywhere near decent though? Unwrapping is like a special circle of hell

zinc matrix
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Oh, Rizom stuff is still a while before it will be available, and even then I still don't have it working with compilable blocks. That's not a priority of v1.0.

signal citrus
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thats a 3 pixel pack with separation to space them

plucky pagoda
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um.... nightmare fuel

signal citrus
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funny thing is the coverage there is actually really good

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pretty much perfect surface area to coverage

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but yeah idea of making nodes in native land for houdini sounds really cool

plucky pagoda
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I'm going to take a look at it again. Last time I looked was still early and rigging was still rough and hardly any documentation for it.

signal citrus
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turning on that compliable icon is revealing

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thats how i do it, seam, flatten, layout if i have an hour

plucky pagoda
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I don't have anything anywhere close to that complex though. It'd probably be much faster for the 15k max tri models I use most often.

signal citrus
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yeah

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you can let it get more imaginative with layout to make up for that haha

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have it try many more angles of rotation etc

zinc matrix
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That's equivalent in Rizom, left is completely custom, right shorter

plucky pagoda
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Do you know which license is equivalent to indie if you're over the 100k?

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idk the differnce between core,FX, engine

zinc matrix
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Core of FX

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yeah

signal citrus
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Is it the same as the tools that come with the LAB thing for gaming?

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Labs*

zinc matrix
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No, LAB are Digital Assets that are simply a bridge to standalone editor.

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So you need standalone.

signal citrus
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ah ok

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oh wow, so no standalone in needed for what you're working on?

zinc matrix
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I have more than 30 SOPs, 14 VOPs, 20 HScript commands, 19 VEX ones, 18 Python, 13 visualizers.

signal citrus
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jesus lol

zinc matrix
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Yeah, no need.

signal citrus
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no dops? lol

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damn

zinc matrix
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I was tempted when I saw some link of Tetris trick with UVs. A joke.

signal citrus
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lol

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I had to write some vex just to measure coverage the other day

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even though auto uv shows the value under its node, it does not expose it.

zinc matrix
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UV coverage ?

signal citrus
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yeah

zinc matrix
signal citrus
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wow

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thats a nice way to pack more information in

signal citrus
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very nice

pearl compass
rare sparrow
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@signal citrus Sort of. I've rebuilt it so many times now. I'm definitely getting closer to a point where I like it

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The current iteration I'm trying to make it more modular and make each lane separate blueprints. Then, have another blueprint that's like a container for them in a way

signal citrus
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@red basin was looking for tips and i remembered some of your posts here, looked really good

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on road related things

agile gale
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Oof my crash reporter just crashed

plucky pagoda
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I think discord support just says they are going to manually clear pending charges that failed to brush people off and then does nothing but wait for them to clear out over a few days.

red basin
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Ah yeah I was trying to find examples of your work on roads ConverseFox but was unable to.

Just wanted a general heading for how best to manage it before diving in, Cranz suggested splines and I’m thinking splines filling gaps while static mesh take end points, joints, and junctions

zinc matrix
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Thats not how it works @pearl compass

pearl compass
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not how what works? Buying shit at Costco?

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come again?

fluid bloom
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halo is a weird game

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the shooting is not very satisfying due to all enemies being bullet sponges 😄

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maybe it's just reach, but I remember the original halo on PC being just as annoying 🤔

signal citrus
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Its weird how heavily headshot that game is

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I enjoy it though

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Three head tap is hard

zinc matrix
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never understood halo

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the most generic fps there can be

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i always thought people who liked it never played any other fps

deep glen
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back in ye olde working in an office days you where either pro or anti halo, and we often flame eachother when we messed up gamedev-wise.
"you missed this because you didnt play halo"
"what can you expect from someone who likes halo"

zinc matrix
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:DDD hahaha classic

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do u think halo stole the idea of the "halo" from ZOE?

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when i was young i was sure it was a ripoff

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but its not a new idea

deep glen
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iunno, never played halo besides 15 minutes before turning it off

zinc matrix
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i applaud you

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you are the man of taste

solar nebula
deep glen
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lol

pearl compass
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nba cancelled the season

deep glen
pearl elk
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He's in Australia too D:

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Here Mr Hanks sign my I got coronavirus from the academy tshirt

signal citrus
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not mr. hanks

north torrent
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Do you have coronavirus yet, Mr. Olympus?

pearl elk
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I have a collection of virii Im keeping for a rainy day

signal citrus
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damn cool pluralization

pearl elk
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pleurisy 😛

bronze axle
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Pretty wild if true, but frankly, I never believed in the product.

signal citrus
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That’s the finger sensor thing that works bad right?

pearl compass
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lmfao

signal citrus
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Lol get those confused

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Leap motion

bronze axle
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Ah, yeah wrong one. This is the AR goggles thing.

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Big promises that never really materialized, unfortunately.

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I remember watching a launch keynote for it and seeing a lot of red flags.

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The presentation was mostly talk and they barely even had a product to show, save for some brief clips that were not even real.

signal citrus
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They own patents or something?

bronze axle
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Not sure, but boy did they make it sound like they were making something Earth-shattering.

signal citrus
bronze axle
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I remember the presentation being filled with language like "Reality is just the beginning" and "we can build intuitive interfaces wherever we want them".

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Oh, and "This is the stuff of science fiction."

signal citrus
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statements that can’t be satisfied

pearl elk
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you should see their latest demo for pulling their point cloud data into Unity, it looks like complete turd

signal citrus
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A turd of many molecules?

pearl elk
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if it had many molecules itd atleast be a polished turd

signal citrus
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Polished turd is still turd

pearl elk
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they probably get all excited when they see a spike from us linking their stuff 😛

signal citrus
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I regret linking it but I worry I say old people things that require it sometimes lol

pearl elk
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cant wait for their game, its going to be amazeballs

fathom wadi
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"but if you get the channel tunnel to the UK, and then fly over, its fine"

soft night
fathom wadi
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what I do is let hackers steal my passwords, but I log everytime they do with a metasploit. Then when I forget my password, I just email them and save money on those "password database" software apps that store all your pwds 😄

pearl elk
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we should all just get infected, then we dont have to worry about it anymore

soft night
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lets infect all our machines right?

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MonsVirus the most hybrid virus there is

pearl elk
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as long as my cows dont catch it

fathom wadi
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I just hope they don't shut the schools. Its the only peace and quiet I get in the daytime :/

lucid walrus
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ooh... unlimited detail... that's a blast from the past

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speaking of that, anyone have any info regarding Dreams supposedly being 100% rendered with distance fields?

bold fulcrum
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No.

soft night
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Substance launcher now show Substance integrations

dusky shuttle
median wraith
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Luos I told he about stay in the island, but well...

teal kindle
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hi lounge..

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if I have a quickthought like "call helmet cams from other players onto own screen" .. where would I yell at ppl to do that? 😛

late night
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I googled "cha cha slide mocap"

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found this

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"Show Preview"

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god damn it

median wraith
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hahahaa

stiff crystal
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lol

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cryengine discord muted me

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but I guess I had it coming :p

soft night
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what you did

stiff crystal
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I said they were overreacting when they said they put people on parole if they comment anything about how dangerous coronavirus is

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and that people panic too much already

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yeah, I totally didn't like the ping either 😄

zinc matrix
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😭engine

soft night
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😢 🚀

pearl elk
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parole wtf, so youre making crytek number plates now or somethin

lucid walrus
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I'm fascinated that Lumberyard is still a thing

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Is it only Star Citizen propping it up these days, or are other projects using it too?

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and I'd love to read the details about the Amazon/CryEngine deal in 10-20 years time and see what the fuck actually went down

soft night
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pearl elk
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oh that got me all excited

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thought Id be riding dragons in conquest for a moment there

soft night
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monsDragons

pearl elk
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Dragoons

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Hows that Baulders Gate 3 cinematic

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I thought the Diablo 4 was good but daaamn

lucid walrus
stiff crystal
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basically, they just wanted to make me an example as I judged their moderation publicly

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but yeah, it is what it is

median wraith
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blender needs less for a full render

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they need a proper denoiser

fathom wadi
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its got Nvidia's AI denoiser built in now

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if you have nvidia card of course

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@stiff crystal imo, nothing is worth being silenced for criticism. Still, it's their place, let them rot in it :p

stiff crystal
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yeah, it's one thing to really go against mods and rant about it and other to mention it feels like overreaction

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that being said, this is how I get banned usually if I do :p

carmine frigate
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im no expert, but it might be kinda dangerous 😛

stiff crystal
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I have authority issues if people running the show feel unreasonable

carmine frigate
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so u just have authority issues 😛

stiff crystal
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I guess :p

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maybe that's one reason why I'm not a mod in these groups :p

pearl elk
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I wouldnt say not blindly listening to authority is an issue

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Youre just not a sheep, which is great... more toilet paper for me hehe

stiff crystal
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tbh, there's hoarding in this residence already

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wouldn't have done it myself but if it makes the other person happy...

winter zealot
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sorry for saying redundent things but people should really stay home and wash their hands

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maybe i'm overreacting but better safe than sorry etc

soft night
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i go out then

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i am not scared of this thing

winter zealot
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also, I kind of don't know how to clean the food from the supermarket, soap and water obviously but what about cardboard, metal ...

stiff crystal
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you will wash your veggies with soap?

winter zealot
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exactly, that's an issue 😄

zinc matrix
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better safe than sorry Olento 🙂

soft night
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🤦‍♂️

fluid bloom
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embrace the british diet

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steamed veggies

stiff crystal
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tbh, I can't even eat them raw

fluid bloom
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steam them until they're soggy

stiff crystal
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I'm allergic to raw veggies

fluid bloom
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no salt, no spices at all

winter zealot
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so yeah, boiling or baking food kill bacteria and viruses, but doesn't it also greatly reduce vitamins and proteins ?

soft night
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lots of spices lots of salt lots of that what kill vampires

fluid bloom
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proteins, not

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vitamins yes

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it doesn't matter if you eat normally

stiff crystal
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I'd rather not get anaphylactic shock

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so I'm fine by losing few vitamins in the process :p

winter zealot
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that's a fair point XD

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Olento Jonimake, those are good points i'm gonna do that

stiff crystal
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I don't even like being in public, especially this time of the year when you are guaranteed to get at least flu

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so there's not much that changes for me

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work from home already

winter zealot
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yeah same, just had to do several shopping sessions but aside from that not much changes

winter zealot
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sorry, not much to say at the moment... I hope everyone is fine

pearl elk
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I like being in public, I just hate theres other people there 😛

winter zealot
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oh for sure, but right now imma avoid crowds even tho I love it usually

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it'd be different if everyone would have an integral hazmat of course

fathom wadi
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we should all light some sage at the same time. Then we get rid of all germs forever.

pearl elk
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if the Earth was round the virus wouldnt spread so quickly

zinc matrix
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yes

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@stiff crystal how did you mnage to wrk from home?

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like if i was well skilled but livedd far from job would they let me

fathom wadi
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no viruses spread faster on flat surfaces. Thats why scientists don't test anti-virals on footballs.

stiff crystal
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@zinc matrix by running my own business? when you are the boss you can make the rules 😄

zinc matrix
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what business

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what r u selling

stiff crystal
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not what I should

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should sell hand wash + respirator masks

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another wasted opportunity

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meanwhile, gdcvault still haven't released 2018 videos behind the paywall :/

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I hope they don't forget now that 2020 event is postponed 😄

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or postpone the release to summer as well

tulip orbit
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the videos got infected with the coronavirus and had to be deleted

pearl elk
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EA created coronavirus as a response to lootcrates being banned

soft night
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monsCoronaVirus is made in MonsOöympus to make monkeys to rule the universe

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Unreal Masks

pearl elk
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monkeys already rule the universe, they use cats as enforcers

winter zealot
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uh i'm not involved in this in any way

zinc matrix
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Thanos is coming, and coronavirus is a snap event

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just that there is no avengers coming

winter zealot
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there's a massive effort ongoing to find medication and vaccines...

stable escarp
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Anyone uses Firefox here?

zinc matrix
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yeah

soft night
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its awesome

stable escarp
pearl elk
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new firefox, all pastel and fresh

zinc matrix
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no

stable escarp
zinc matrix
pearl elk
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looks fine to me

stable escarp
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yep...fine on chrome tho -_-