ive been trying to get away from it for years now
#lounge
fathom wadi
rigid shoal
Sorry, pfist, I didn't mean to bring up anything controversial or anything.
fathom wadi
there's worse places to live, but I've watched our government systematically murder homeless and disabled people over the past 12 years. It's sickening to think I am supposed to be patriotic about this place.
Im patriotic about #lounge though.
we need a flag
late night
I can listen to taylor swift so much more now
north torrent
You are the flag, Mr. Rogerson.
fathom wadi
do those earpods not feel like they are falling out or do you have muscular ears?
late night
I'm using the medium ear pieces that come standard and honestly they're slightly itchy
they feel like they could fall out but they don't, but I haven't really stress tested them yet
I think they're much more secure than they feel
I've only owned one pair of in-ear headphones that didn't make me have a slight itch and they were custom molded shures :p
fathom wadi
I'd be so worried about losing one at that price. It's like dropping a phone these days. You used to drop a phone, crack a screen and pay £30 to get it fixed. Now its £250 because they glue the digitizers to the glass like utter screwbags.
late night
I'm fat
I don't go running
although I've been trying to walk more
I think they'll be fine for me
fathom wadi
try brazillian jiu-jitsu. Lose weight lying on your back 😄
I swear just the warmup exercises for BJJ kill me. Trying to walk like a monkey or do shrimping really burns the muscles when you haven't trained for a while
plucky pagoda
I can shrimp. I prefer them fried and tossed in hot sauce though
north torrent
I had a shrimp and bacon burrito.
fathom wadi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4goC9VqlvU if you ever wanted to know.
theres more than that but its a few
hah there is a store opened in my town, and everytime we went past there was a group of guys outside like a gang. So I used to say "I bet they are selling drugs" but my wife said "naah they will be abusing kids". You know, just for the banter. So she just read the news and the shops been shut because they were caught exploiting children. YAY Blackpool England weeps into hands
north torrent
Well, I guess it is better than it not being shut down.
If you don't hear stories like this, that generally means nobody is doing anything about it.
fathom wadi
if you knew the history of my town, you would just think it was a normal day. It's like paedo central around here. Can't even let the kids out to play
north torrent
Maybe it is time to just burn it down.
Not that I am sugesting you do that in any way. Just thinking.
plucky pagoda
Oh man.... https://youtu.be/tlwzuZ9kOQU
fathom wadi
believe me, if I could I would. I'd settle for just moving away, far away.
@plucky pagoda the wife was just telling me someone commented on the trailer video that "they were sick of the SJW messages being put in remakes". And she was like "did they even watch the original, they murdered a black man for loving a white woman".
north torrent
I have heard 10x as many people complaining about so called 'Social Justice Warriors' than I have ever seen these so called 'Social Justice Warriors'.
A bunch of little cry babies...
fathom wadi
its just a meme insult these days but the old school sjws had it almost right
but they had more to fight for. Today its just 2 minute whining as you pass by on the internet
north torrent
There are certainly lots of teenagers on Twitter complaining about mostly nothing... But the anti-social justice people complain about them 10x more than the original annoying person...
atomic barn
If someone uses SJW unironically it is a pretty good indication that they are as dumb as a brick
fathom wadi
yeah the best way to dumb people down, is keep them fighting amongst themselves whilst reducing the quality of information, or discrediting it entirely.
north torrent
It is all a distraction away from the class warfare we should be having against the rich...
fathom wadi
this is true
even the up and coming rich people are taking on the elite now. Their days are numbered unless they can get these drone armaments completed and erase the population down to 500,000,000 people
But that might take some kind of virus or nuclear threat, you know.... things to keep us too scared to do anything, so we buy more, and argue more on the internet.
north torrent
Most people just say "It is too hard, rich people are too smart for us to ever win" and then give up.
fathom wadi
more a matter of resources but yeah. Apathy is the great tool of the dominant.
north torrent
Looks like the stock market here in the States just took a 3rd dive.
quiet narwhal
Speedtree just bailed on GDC, how where will I get my SpeedWeed from
fathom wadi
@quiet narwhal looks like this GDC is gonna be empty 😦
north torrent
Much like your bank account, Mr. Rogerson.
quiet narwhal
😦
signal citrus
not speed tree lol
fathom wadi
@north torrent my bank account is empty. I give all my money to the wife because I don't need it. 😉
north torrent
I give all my money to EA Games.
Gotta buy those Star War pew pew guns.
Just waiting for the new Xbox controller with a credit card reader built in.
fathom wadi
Im probably going to buy the Warlords of NY expansion for Division 2 tomorrow. Although I wish I wasn't. Massive/Ubisoft have scammed everyone who invested in that game
north torrent
Never heard of it.
quiet narwhal
On the plus side I just realized that without epic having any legal department employees at GDC this year I don't have to worry about my custom made unreal engine shirts LOL
fathom wadi
hah
Jess once sent me an official UE tshirt for my wife. Not for me... still waiting for mine 😦
quiet narwhal
Aww
I was going through the storage closet for all that crap when I was there last year and there's a lot of just old useless stuff now
Plus Jess is gone right?
fathom wadi
@north torrent The Division is a Tom Clancy story about a virus that is released via money. When everyone's dead, gangs appear like The Cleaners, who go around burning bodies and killing people they think are infected. Or the military mercs called Black Tusk who are trying a post-virus coup. The game is about chasing the protagonists around New York and Washington DC. It's got some of the most beautiful scenery ever put into games and the core gameplay ain't bad.
@quiet narwhal yeah
quiet narwhal
All my extra shirts end up going to the kids whenever I get them
fathom wadi
Jess works at Rare Ltd now. Steady job if you can get it 🙂
quiet narwhal
nice
north torrent
I would play a game about a virus if it didn't have military stuff in it, Mr. Rogerson.
fathom wadi
well its less military, more militia. The Division are just regular people dedicated to rebuilding the world and fighting those who try take advantage. Im not one for military games either. They are usually just glorification tools to subliminally create fans of weapons to drive military subscriptions (cynical I know but America's Army hey hey). But this is more about protecting victims than military might.
median wraith
The only they can do in reality is write in Twitter what they don't like
north torrent
The kind of shoot shoot game I would play would be set in the United States after the government finally removes the 2nd Amendment.
You get to work as one of the special agents who takes the guns away from the "You will never take my guns!" crowd.
The goal is to trick them or steal the guns while they leave the house for work, but if you fail the mission you may end up having to shoot them and take the gun from their body.@fathom wadi
fathom wadi
who takes them away from the "special agents" though?
north torrent
You take them to a furnace and burn them.
Or use them to take more guns from people.
fathom wadi
sounds like the start of a movie genre to me. "anti-gun porn".
median wraith
There was 500k petitions in changeorg to close some sites of that 🤔
fathom wadi
meh petitions are just social hysteria these days. No different than fashion.
zinc matrix
hi
median wraith
Probably is just a platform for richs
north torrent
So for you, Mr. Hevedy?
median wraith
Lol me, I have a shit
north torrent
Put that shit in the stock market
median wraith
XD
north torrent
It will help you flush it.
fathom wadi
my wife's phone cost over £700. So its windy, raining, and she gives it to the most accident prone child in history to play with. Until he dropped it and it smashed. No problem, easy fix, I've repaired iPhones a few times and know the layout of mobiles in general. Until I see that Samsung now charge £250 to replace a digitizer. So yeah... that phone is dead.
north torrent
I only ever have cheap phones.
red basin
The key is to get the heavy duty protectors
fathom wadi
and not give your kid a 700 quid phone to talk down the street with
north torrent
Kids shouldn't touch anything worth that much money.
tulip orbit
kids should be locked in a prison till they're old enough
zinc matrix
yes and embrace prison sausages
fathom wadi
@north torrent Honestly in this case I would agree but only because my wife keeps her entire freaking life on a phone. Bills paid, etc. So when she lost use of it, it was panic attacks until the bank opened.
I mean, I have told her many times, but its her thing. Not mine.
zinc matrix
so phone for her is like what discord is for you
pearl elk
lol Facebook has cancelled F8 over coronavirus
zinc matrix
whats F8
pearl elk
Facebooks event thingo
north torrent
A lot of people I know in China do everything with their phones. I don't like to do my money and stuff with my phone, then I have to worry about the battery going dead.
pearl elk
my wallets never had a flat battery
fathom wadi
When the bible said we will receive the mark of the beast in our hand, and nobody wanted an implanted chip, who would have known that the mobile phone would become the mark itself.
dunno why my brain left out 4 words there. I think i might be losing it. Early dementia or some typically unfortunate crap
sigh
tulip orbit
too many or not enough drugs
zinc matrix
@tulip orbit please stop doing hurt to yourself
mossy nexus
Is never the excuse, when talking to the cops.
zinc matrix
drugs are never the solution !!
mossy nexus
oh yes there are, a solution by its definition is a mixture of chemicals to form a solution.
#scienceRocks
zinc matrix
thats not what i mean
fathom wadi
@tulip orbit lack and thereof probably. Although I have been jamming so much information in recently, something's got to give
mossy nexus
it's of course not the definition but a definition
sounds more like lack of sleep/proper rest.
zinc matrix
@tulip orbit if you feel like takin drugs just dm me instead and ill convince you not to ❤️
mossy nexus
Serotonin and melatonin deficiency
hey @zinc matrix are you including caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sugars, salts, fatty foods etc in your naughty list?
fathom wadi
The more I look at this picture, the more I wonder what the guy in the top right was thinking when he put those glasses on. Because we should all think like that guy.
mossy nexus
you'll note the lack of correct punctuation for that surmise to be correct. I referred to the list itself being a list of naughty things, not that you were yourself naughty. This is clearly obvious "etc in your naughty list?" is used, and not "etc in you're naughty list?", which wouldn't even make sense "etcetera in you are naughty list?" just is obviously not only incorrect grammar, it's nonsensical in the extreme!
mossy nexus
fathom wadi
"Tonight, I'm gonna dress so bad ass, in leather, and stand around looking threatening. Also, 1950's women's Raybans".
fathom wadi
take the day off too. It's on me !
neon iris
Isn’t it 6am over there?
fathom wadi
1.23am GMT
deep glen
2:23
neon iris
totally 6am
fathom wadi
I do night shifts currently thanks to the littlest member of the family. Wife needs more sleep than I do. So I'm up until 10am. Can't wait to get back to days tho. Need some vitamin D
ceremonial breakdance joke for the evening. (it's purely research for animation btw. honest)
why did I write Obama?
holy moly. I need my head seeing to I swear
fathom wadi
seriously though. It's getting worrying. I keep making these strange errors and it scares me that I might lose my mind and not be able to code stuff. I can put it down to getting old but im only 43 :/
plucky pagoda
Phonetically they're pretty close I wouldn't sweat that one
fathom wadi
heh my mum called me by the dog's name once. 4 kids + 3 dogs = confusing I guess
plucky pagoda
the way our minds use patterns they're really close
fathom wadi
aye if I was drunk or on drugs I might be able to shrug it off. Seems to be getting more regular tho
maybe I just need a break
I've easily done 250+ hours of tutorials this month. Might be a bit of an overload
neon iris
Just called stereotyping (the psychological definition, don't get your panties in a twist). It's how your brain makes short cuts to increase efficiency. Nothing abnormal about it
plucky pagoda
I think it's healthy. Save the brain power for more complex problems.
ugh, I hate building levels. Love making the tools for it though
fathom wadi
perhaps its a coincidence this all started happening when 5G was switched on. /twilightZoneTheme
"Help me I'm being microwavally oppressed"
plucky pagoda
no one
fathom wadi
and yeah, love level design when I get the time. It's something you get zen about. I can even watch people doing it and feel the joy. But after a day or two, I feel the need to code things otherwise I feel like I'm going stale
plucky pagoda
this is the unity channel
neon iris
"The H20 bond in my body is vibrating way too fast"
zinc matrix
@plucky pagoda really?
plucky pagoda
Yeah, united in apathy , that's the unity we have
fathom wadi
I have H3O in my system, I use it to power my rocket boots with eco friendly energy 😄
quiet narwhal
at some point are they going to get banned just for simply not being useful to the discord or do you guys just all ignore them?
plucky pagoda
?
neon iris
well it's lounge
fathom wadi
I have the blocked guy blocked.
plucky pagoda
I come to lounge to let off steam, and stop thinking
spare glade
@plucky pagoda Stop trolling him please.
plucky pagoda
sorry, I must have missed something
calm cosmos
I think he's just goofin
plucky pagoda
that was the first comment I saw
calm cosmos
No harm
quiet narwhal
I think the mod might have aimed that one at the wrong person. LOL
fathom wadi
didn't normalise the vector
plucky pagoda
🤷♂️
quiet narwhal
And yeah I know it's lounge it just seems annoying to have to deal with trolls even in an off-topic channel
fathom wadi
when its so obviously the intent yeah
quiet narwhal
At this point what do you think the actual chances are the GDC is going to be cancelled?
fathom wadi
Depends on the refund policy
neon iris
you'd love my earlier proclamation of golden shit in that case
plucky pagoda
I mean if it wasn't lounge I would have been serious about it, but it's a weird question to ask in a UE server.
neon iris
I think they're going to try to hold onto the money
fathom wadi
yeah the show must go on, they can get devs to do talks over the net if anything. Maybe too late to deal with logistically but who knows.
quiet narwhal
They definitely seem to be holding fast on that but how much is going to actually be left
neon iris
the hotels and restaurant have a stake in it too.
quiet narwhal
yep there's a ton of money at issue here but it's not like GDC themselves are keeping on top of it if you were to go right now and try to sign up you'd still see you Facebook and all the other companies on the list
zinc matrix
How to download unreal for free?
neon iris
why would they want to update it? The less people are aware of the drop outs, the better for them. Even if it merely staggers the refund request rates.
fathom wadi
Post-GDC BBQ this year.
plucky pagoda
Did I miss something?
zinc matrix
Lol
neon iris
Free zombie bites at GDC or something
tulip orbit
my mom's worried now, she's taking me to costco for some self-isolation supplies
zinc matrix
Why bother going to gdc when u can spend that time to code ur game
fathom wadi
if it ever got that bad, I'd just take over the Costco.
zinc matrix
So does anyone know how to get ue4 for free
tulip orbit
do what I've been doing
never release a project, so you dont have to report earnings. Havent paid a dime
deep glen
https://i.gyazo.com/a321f235a8ba8e05b64022ca002ea2df.gif this was rather fun to make
plucky pagoda
@quiet narwhal Was the troll and useful comments of yours directed at something I did?
zinc matrix
@tulip orbit lmao
deep glen
hilt part needs to be less bright though
deep glen
lol
fathom wadi
is that a niagara effect btw?
deep glen
just a material
fathom wadi
nice
plucky pagoda
The material editor is one of my favorite things about UE.
deep glen
yup
fathom wadi
im trying to wrangle with OSL right now in Blender. It's not really my thing. I can handle HLSL and GLSL but I'll figure it out
plucky pagoda
Not having to ever code a shader in Unity again is worth the 5% on its own
deep glen
until you go so complex that you use the custom nodes :p
fathom wadi
yeah I did that for my slot machine to create a spline in a material that I could animate as needed. Was a nice trip into the rabbit hole
plucky pagoda
I've been using materials more and more. There's always something new
fathom wadi
yeah and with the current trend for animating vertices (vertexes?) with shaders, its getting really interesting to see what happens
plucky pagoda
I did consider an exorsimm on my pc the first time I saw a node that hade a shader writen in the panel
fathom wadi
same. Once I got my head around raymarching through it though, it became like big array and I was like "easy money" 😄
plucky pagoda
My current game is almost 100% instanced rectangles and everything else is done in materials
tulip orbit
mine is made up of a lot of triangles
fathom wadi
when I imagine lots of rectangles and materials, I think of the Phantom Zone from Superman.
^^ Tomy's my first material
plucky pagoda
Like this is all the same BP (minus the torches and vases) whith different materials on the instances
fathom wadi
there's a decent game idea for a superman game in the phantom zone. Make it so Superman gets sent there and his powers are removed. He is put into a prison with no light. So you have to escape, but the kick is, every now and again you get to use some powers. Not so you can escape with them, but cracks of light feed smaller powers, bigger lights give better powers. Crank it up with a story based on a Phantom Zone gang war, make it darker than Batman, and sell it as a standalone.
quiet narwhal
@plucky pagoda no it was directed at seppuku not you
plucky pagoda
ah, thank you. I was worried
fathom wadi
when I had a sinclair spectrum, I once sat up all night trying to code a superman game. I got to the point I had a sprite moving around and my parents woke up. I forgot to save the program to tape and it broke my heart 😄
thats the atari game version?
plucky pagoda
I try to keep my a** *** nature on the DL
hmmm
yeah
atari
2600 was my second or third game system
fathom wadi
I think I based my superman game on that one. I never had it on atari 2600 but I always wanted to play it
plucky pagoda
texas instruments something or other was first followed by some commodore something
fathom wadi
vic 20?
fathom wadi
nice. One of them in good condition will be worth keeping
plucky pagoda
I have an st1040 too
They had a computer owners group at WPAFB, and one of the engineers had a whole room in his house deciated to floppys of cracked games for the 1040
fathom wadi
sounds like my bedroom for spectrum and amiga games.
rare sparrow
fathom wadi
I know a guy still writes stuff for commodore 64. demo stuff
I've noticed a few people around the place have been starting to pick up older engines to make games with, and on platforms that are considered dead. Not sure why. Unreal 2 seems to have a nice following still
fathom wadi
I spent 6 months deep into a Flash 3d engine and that was the last of it for me. Unreal is about as much as I can handle now 😄
plucky pagoda
less complex even though it's lower level
or maybe that's just how it feels. UE has so much to take in and stay on top of when you're a solo dev
fathom wadi
indeed. I feel like the more I learn, the more I fall behind on what I already learned
plucky pagoda
I panicked today when I updated a project to 4.24 that something drastic had changed in the rendering process
turned out it was just a driver issue and needed to tweak AA
quiet narwhal
Commodore Vic 20 ftw!
plucky pagoda
it looked like a completly different game
quiet narwhal
used to read all the magazines and put in the code then cry when it didnt work
fathom wadi
lol same with spectrums
Your Sinclair was my magazine of choice. It had some really funny reviews 😄
plucky pagoda
My brother and I use to spend hours beating the crap out of each other on that stupid karate fight game
fathom wadi
IK +
plucky pagoda
the one you moved like two steps and kicked
fathom wadi
fathom wadi
played that a few times. Controvertial for it's time
plucky pagoda
Oh , there's one game I can't find and can't remeber the name of
you rescue a bunch of pows and control a soldier, picking up keys,
fathom wadi
hmm was a few with that setup
fathom wadi
Ikari Warriors was one
There was a retro game I played on a coverdisk once, for spectrum, and it's always been in the back of my mind to remake it. The premise was simple. You were a ball, and you had to get from one side of the screen to the other. You could only get there by bouncing on trampolines, but each trampoline had either 1, 2 or 3 max bounces. And you had to figure out the pattern to get across.
plucky pagoda
I played oids, drakkhen, captain blood, dungeon master the most
that's not it but it was fun too
fathom wadi
maybe P.O.W prisoners of war
plucky pagoda
That's not it. It's been driving me nuts. Maybe it was a dos game and that's why I can't find it
fathom wadi
yeah and so many of those types of games were made too. like a needle in a haystack at times.
plucky pagoda
yeah and with what my dad was doing at the time it might not have even ever been released anywhere
I'm going to have to go to my mom's and dig out the floppys
fathom wadi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2mG3EUrQo found the spectrum game I was talking about.
plucky pagoda
Never seen that, looks like something suited to being made into something now
fathom wadi
yeah. the core gameplay is solid. Just needs visual changes
maybe some extra puzzle elements etc
plucky pagoda
I'd like to make an arkanoid clone
fathom wadi
make one in a shader
fathom wadi
oh crap I was thinking of Joe Blade but the second one sticks in my mind more.
unborn lotus
north torrent
Qix Mix!
cursive crypt
It's a minx
north torrent
Life is hard.
pearl elk
Hi I want to learn C++, where do I start?
median wraith
what the
pearl elk
I get the feeling like Satisfactory cheats physics, like how you can convert fuels at lesser cost than the fuel it takes to convert them. I feel like the process would be more inefficient
Not sure about this radioactive limestone either
pearl elk
lol I think its a default texture of some sort
pearl elk
lol that games been out awhile
Id say its the Chinese government in damage control mode more than the actual content of the game
fluid bloom
look at this
novel latch
the rice is ruined 🙂
median wraith
that isn't fish it is ?
pearl elk
Thats all kinds of wrong
fluid bloom
behold, green balls rolls
pearl elk
is that cooked meat next to raw meat and red meat on the same dish as fish
please be cooked fish
stiff crystal
please be jello
fluid bloom
@pearl elk you haven't had sushi?
pearl elk
Im trying to work out why they are breaking health and safety standards
Ive had sushi but it was never on the same plate as cooked meat
fluid bloom
I've never ever been to a sushi place where the fish ones came on a separate plate
stiff crystal
you know what happens to those when you eat them?
fluid bloom
that's like being worried about cross contamination happening in your mouth
stiff crystal
like, they do all mix
pearl elk
theres more bacteria in your mouth then in your arse
raw rose
I can't be the only one that thinks a lot of video tutorials go really slow. Most of the time I'm watching them at 1.5 speed but sometimes they drag on so much I'm watching at 2x speed.
stiff crystal
I'm not sure I want to see where this is going
pearl elk
so lets all lick each others arses woop woop 😛
stiff crystal
and I was right
pearl elk
you know me so well 🙂
In all honesty though Im one of those people who will shake your hand then walk around holding their hand out awkwardly looking for a wash room or sanitizer
fluid bloom
@raw rose that's why I wish people wrote articles instead of videos with a miniscule amount of content
stiff crystal
proper docs, aint nobody got time for that
I also hate random user made tutorials with passion
I've recently looked at some for Unity's DOTS and I'm like facepalming on half of them
pearl elk
now theres an idea, an algorithm than generates random UE4 tutorials
raw rose
I've had better luck learning from videos and just making my own documentation
stiff crystal
and I'm not even that good at using that framework
make sure it generates random code that doesn't even do anything and embed it in the mix
pearl elk
yeah thats where I was going with that, tutorials that arnt real theyre just random 😛
just need to generate an AI voice which sounds like someone legit and then I can do random video tuts too
stiff crystal
I do wonder if in the future we can just license just the characteristics of one's voice and then use those text-to-speech things for everything
also wonder how long it'll take for copyright laws to catch up
I dunno if there's any law today that prevent you from training AI from known actors voice and using it on your own game for voice over
pearl elk
Id imagine voice is covered by the term likeness to a degree
Its less unique that other identifying marks I suppose but theres alot which goes with that too, accent, cadence etc
stiff crystal
pretty sure people would recognize the rock if appeared on some indie games character voice 😄
pearl elk
well youre allowed to do impersonations
stiff crystal
but if done for more generic sounding actors, I doubt anyone would figure out even
carmine frigate
videos are good when u dont know the ui
pearl elk
really though if an actor can be replicated so easily then they really arnt worth the price anyways right. A good actor shouldnt be able to be copied
carmine frigate
half of it is putting a famous name on your poster
must admit its how i pick my movies most of the time
pearl elk
Ive never seen a Dwayne Johnson movie for him
carmine frigate
nah u seen one cuz he does like 100 a year
pearl elk
lol that and the supporting cast, he can be funny but only with side kicks
carmine frigate
just cant get around that dude, his arms reach too far
he does do funny faces, i can just see him practice em in the mirror arter lifting wheights for 10 hours
pearl elk
I actually read a really interesting article about how Hollywood puts too much weight on the big names and thats why some movies completely tank. They spoke about Robert Downey Jr how he's huge as Tony Stark but put him in a lesser role and he's not worth as much even though he is a decent actor.
For instance off the back of Iron Man putting his name on something you'd expect it to be instant hit but truth is audience doesnt care, they care about the characters. They love Tony Stark and Downeys portrayal so its not just about the actor
its why Terminator movies can tank no matter how many times they cast The Governator
Chris Hemsworth is a good eg, he commands a decent salary within Marvel cuz people love Thor... Ghostbusters and MIB International no one cares
carmine frigate
didnt that 1 actress became the girlfriend of like 4 superheroes?
like she got passed around in marvel land 😛
carmine frigate
hmm could be, havent seen that1 i skipped a bunch
pearl elk
theres some pretty big named actors in side parts in the Marvel universe but even though theyre famous they dont command huge salarys or parts
stiff crystal
hmmmm
pearl elk
If someone has one of those faces I suppose it could work, like atm the world is nuts over that Billie Eilish girl
stiff crystal
they still have horrible water tiling on fortnite
you'd think they would have fixed this like 2 years ago 🙂
pearl elk
jeez thats pretty drab isnt it, all flat and bleh
zinc matrix
unreal is hard
zinc matrix
i find unity easier
stiff crystal
have you tried gamemaker?
stiff crystal
I didn't mean you 😄
median wraith
oh lol
stiff crystal
but the person who found Unity easier
median wraith
back to that person and Unity and gamemaker topic, jesus the fact that engine don't even provide UI tools
stiff crystal
what do you mean?
stiff crystal
you mean game maker, right?
pearl elk
Godot is the best
stiff crystal
I've never used GM
stiff crystal
I somehow managed to skip that stage fully
started with c++ as a kid
then got discouraged because it was difficult AF and next time I looked gamedev again decade later
but then we also had internet
median wraith
I started with VB, C# , C++
But in early 2014 they set GM at low cost bought it cause I was about release a top notch game you know
stiff crystal
well, I did start with basic actually, but c++ was first "proper" language
didn't help that only place to learn was badly translated c++ book from stephen prata
man that book was trash
no idea if the original english version would have been better
I still have it on my bookshelf, as a remainder of the pain suffered years ago
stiff crystal
nice link
zinc matrix
omg i love it
zinc matrix
Yeah
I dont know why my keyboard bugg
these assets are nice too (environment)
they are free from unity Standards but hard to find
pearl elk
oh man I think I screwed up this game 😦
median wraith
Just gave a try to Inner Space game never ever a main menu made me want vomit until today, and lets don't talk about the game itself
you must be on drugs to know whats going on here I bet
and flow with the game as a single part of the existence
pearl elk
how did you know I was on drugs
deep glen
pearl elk
I want to get away, yeeeeaaah yeeeaaah, I want to get away, I want toooo flyyyy aaawaaaay
median wraith
god isn't responsable for things created digitally by human beans
since they don't show nothing at the GDC
they can skip a year without do nothing doing anything
deep glen
*without doing anything
median wraith
thanks my lord
proud jay
me when I open my colleague's blueprints
zenith pilot
@dreamy aurora seriously? I though hardware would be much cheaper there than in Poland
I'd pay around 1K for Unreal-ready rig here
dull lantern
So you know, that's can be difficult xD
Yeah, in Poland is very cheap but still must have this :D around 2-3k €
zenith pilot
anyway, if possible buy better CPU - it shouldn't that expensive given you have quad-core now
really?
wow
it's like 1k here
1.5k with screen and shit
dull lantern
I'll check it too.
zenith pilot
oh
dull lantern
Where are u from?
zenith pilot
that sucks there, every citizen of Earth should have access to cheap Unreal-capable hardware
dull lantern
Everyone looking for cheap that really, this world unfortunately is control by money..
I must find all people who is sad by money to send me this shit :D
zenith pilot
come on, actually computer hardware is cheap compared to anything else: cars, houses, food in the popular city
it's we have different priorities, like house, family 😄
dull lantern
Yeah, that's true, maybe without food
dull lantern
So you see, I migrate to another country to have better live for example, but is still expensive :D
zenith pilot
maybe you should have a quick trip to Bangkok, get hardware there, go back 😛
dull lantern
After marriage I'll be have more chill with saving money and can focus about pc :D
zenith pilot
ok 😉
dull lantern
Bangkok is that cheap? :D
zenith pilot
meanwhile, look at any CPU that have more cores, any better number of cores would help a lot
UE utilizes 100% of any core it can find - when compiling code or shaders
one currently other things eats a bit of CPU, so every extra core/thread would be like a new era 😉
yeah, is cheap - and you could really cheap wedding suit there
dull lantern
Okay I'll be keeping eyes on this, thanks :>
dull lantern
Yeah, but trip to Bangkok is little bit expensive I think :D
zenith pilot
maybe the difference in suit's price would be bigger than flight 😄
it's $500 for flight from Europe and suits are expensive 😄
zenith pilot
"honey, I asked about PC, they say - go to Bangkok for suit" 😄
dull lantern
Maybe by Amazon Ebay or something is possible to buy? :D
zenith pilot
can't remember
dull lantern
xD
zenith pilot
you can always try Alibaba - twice cheaper because you get a price as guy getting stuff to your store (more or less)
but sometimes they cheat and send you crap 😛
zenith pilot
are you sure you wants this wedding? 😛
dull lantern
Haha, its little bit difficult say right now "baby, sorry but I want realize my stuff" 😅
dull lantern
I'll try 😂😂
Yeah, but really its shit.. I want to do something but I can't make it because my PC.. omg
Or I'll go to mediamarkt and take on credit everything xD
zenith pilot
just tell wedding guests that you need a beefy PC, so they give you enough money for it 😄
dull lantern
Haha, yeah that's true, but what my my fiancee? 😂😂
signal citrus
Is mediamarkt a thing in most of Europe?
dull lantern
Yeah, that is electronic shop that really in every country
signal citrus
They were super over priced last time I looked
dull lantern
That's normal, they're making money on a lot of people
People will buying, is doesn't matter of price
north torrent
Fry's Electronics is dead... It makes me sad, Mr. Souless Pat...
signal citrus
Aye, I never had the chance to visiit a Fry's 
signal citrus
shucks
north torrent
Then again, since being back in the US, literally 50% of the places I have gone are closed down.
Or have empty shelves.
signal citrus
they have microcenter in az?
north torrent
No.
signal citrus
its weird all the youtube channels doing videos there now
they been around here forever
been the only place you could buy a pc case since compusa shut down long, long ago
north torrent
Everything is Amazon now.
Might as well change the A in USA to "A Jeff Bezos".
The United States of A Mr. Jeff Bezos!
zinc matrix
red basin
I was almost team Bezos till new world got effed from its alpha version vision
I mean I highly doubt he has anything to do with decision making for the game but still
Wait wait wait
Is fry’s really going under
Oh they closed a few stores in CA. Hopefully they stem the bleeding. It would be a true loss
zinc matrix
so
north torrent
The stores are literally 75% empty shelves.
zinc matrix
have you guys made any games
red basin
I haven’t been to the one near me in a while so I dunno
zinc matrix
HAV YOU MADE ANY GAMES guys xd
red basin
I’m working on my first game now Seppuku, but I’ve lived as a 3D artist and been involved with others
Only recently started my venture to the code cave, only slightly different than the art attic.
zinc matrix
@red basin show me teh game
north torrent
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix Y R doing it wrong. You start from guys. Not in the middle, not at the end. At.The.Start.
why?
guys
why he should do it at start?
because Karol said that, and word of Karol is saint
lmao whos this Karol guy I keep hearing about him
north torrent
Oh, I thought that was your bank account, Mr. Hevedy...
median wraith
XDDD
fluid bloom
so, any guesses on how Epic will do the whole new-feature-reveal-talks and future of unreal and what not
ancient hornet
Twitch
quiet narwhal
yep they have a studio in house, no reason they can't do it there if they want. More informal but maybe. At this point who knopws it might just all come out in press releases 😦
north torrent
Megascans.
signal citrus
I'm okay with a breakfast club gdc this year
signal citrus
Nah, its made in unity still?
is it different than substance (another program pat hasn't learned)
north torrent
It's magic.
signal citrus
Have you heard of H?
north torrent
I used it last time I had to capitalize the word Hat.
neon iris
Use your words pat. Stop calling it H 😜
signal citrus
lol 😂 but its what all the cool kids at think procedural do
neon iris
No one refers to it as H 
north torrent
At least he isn't calling the color purple, pink anymore, Mr. Tide.
I don't have time for Houdini at the moment. Maybe next year.
neon iris
Is there a husband I don’t know about?
north torrent
Right now I am mostly working in Quadspinner Gaea and Unreal Motion Graphics.
When I finish with my Gaea stuff then I'm going to be in Substance Designer for a while.
Then I will go into Zbrush mode. That will take me at least 3 months. I'm going to try out Marvelous Designer as well. I've never use Marvelous Designer before, I've been unsing Zbrush since Zbrush 2.0...
signal citrus
Aye, well, this rocket stuff in Houdini is cool too.
north torrent
Too much cool stuff in game deisgn these days. Back in my day we were happy just to be unrapping the UVs for a park bench...
neon iris
Game designers are still stuck in their excel sheets
signal citrus
oof, i'm having F.E.A.R. flashbacks
"Where's the source code for this weapon, oh dear lord no"
median wraith
So you worked in FEAR ?
signal citrus
yeah
not with monolith though
my old job was to learn game engines and integrate 3d haptics and input into them in a week or so
median wraith
you're now full time dev on your game ?
signal citrus
yeah i had that job with the haptics in 2007-2010 or so
median wraith
its funny always FEAR one is the most expensive haha
and what was your last job if can ask ?
signal citrus
That game really nailed slowmo mode, even using double precision in the right careful places
Contracting
median wraith
but what date we talk ?
north torrent
I deliver food to people with Door Dash. That's what real game designers do.
signal citrus
I use door dash a lot
median wraith
that isn't a thing here I think
signal citrus
Is grub hub a thing over there too?
north torrent
Well, if I deliver you food I will smash it before I give it to you. I hope you like flat burgers.
Someone with my phone number (that I just got last week) already had a Grub Hub account, so I have to contact customers support and reset the account.
signal citrus
Not a fan of grub hub
I can get burger king or subway from grub hub, so i don't use it.
Door dash is well over 70 restaurants somehow
north torrent
I am going to get my license to be a substitute teacher for next time I come back to the States.
signal citrus
very cool
north torrent
I'm just finding small ways to make some side money when I'm not in China.
plucky pagoda
Amazon's out too
north torrent
zinc matrix
heh
game developers on reddit tell me to use scritableObject
so ill use it
it kind of look like just assigning a struct with data to object
which is what i did before
heh godot admin says 99% unity users dont need 3d performance
lol at him
im optimiizng my 3d perofrmance H.A.R.D
quiet narwhal
activision gone from GDC now. At this point I think it's just going to have to cancel
atomic barn
and offer refunds to all attendees? I doubt it.
signal citrus
hope they'll still hold sessions
zinc matrix
ye me too
winter zealot
it just depends what ppl mean by performance, I don't think it's controversial to say that not every game is as big as fortnite...
in a game like overcooked or anything like that, perfs are not the most critical thing... ofc perfs need to be good but every normal computer can handle these games without any problem
gosh, #lounge and people loling at other peoples because they don't understand what they're saying 😄
zinc matrix
i pretty muuch understood
and every game which targets to sell needs good performance
winter zealot
half the successful indie games are lowpoly 3d or 2d, like the goose game
not like red dead redemption, or uncharted4, or fortnite, where there's a critical need for perfs 
but yeah, perfs are important for sure, it looks like it's challenging to get good perfs with UE4 on nintendo switch
just that it's not at all ridiculous to say that perfs are always the main goal
zinc matrix
so low poly 3d game doesnt need performance?
winter zealot
i'm pretty sure it'd run on any normal gaming pc without huge optimizations, just a bit of culling and pooling
not like senua for instance
rime on nintendo switch would have needed alot of optimization, same for firewatch on ps4, not every game is like that
anyway I gtg
zinc matrix
better perf = run game on shittest pcs = more players
winter zealot
people never having made games laughing of peoples making game engines for a living 🤡
zinc matrix
please stop
winter zealot
it's pretty well known that optimizing without even having released the game might be wasting time
zinc matrix
if you say so
winter zealot
that's what early access is for, seeing if there's any interest, and getting player feedback, then polishing what's needed
zinc matrix
biggest optimizations usually require redesign or rewriting complex systems if not whole game
so certainly it has to be done from scratch
atomic barn
Premature optimization is the root of all evil
- Donald Knuth
north torrent
If you can't make a game that is fun, what is the point in having it optimized?
zinc matrix
if you cant find partner whats the point of being fit
atomic barn
The point is that you should have a target performance budget in mind, and engineer your code in a way that is efficient, but chasing micro optimizations is likely a waste of time and will probably make your code less readable or introduce unexpected bugs
zinc matrix
not always
north torrent
I think the only point in being fit is so that you can have more energy and feel better. That way you can concentrate on game design more.
zinc matrix
no
the point of being fit is so you prepare your organs for corona virus becuz it prefers fit men
north torrent
But I don't do code. I just hop into blueprints and start making things that might someday be a fun game.
winter zealot
so this is what long exposure to masculinist propaganda does to young minds...
poor us
also Mao yes that's the fun side of gamedev, not minding programming, making the actual game etc
zinc matrix
what is 'masculinist propaganda'
winter zealot
it's an horrible thing unrelated to games in every possible way
where peoples subject to it call everyone else " snowflakes " and "sjw" everytime there's a disagreement
eg: " it's nice to have a place where no one is insulted " "-you snowflake sjw rararararara"
but I digress
zinc matrix
but who called you snowflake now
winter zealot
here ? no one, I was reading something else
zinc matrix
so it was random ?
winter zealot
i wonder how much shit normal gamedevs are going to take on # lounge
if engine devs are going to be insulted by non-gamedevs spammers etc
i'd absolutely want to ban ppls doing that imo
zinc matrix
who insulted you dude
zinc matrix
too busy having their lifes absorbed by computers
north torrent
I personally would rather ban people who are always talking about Unity in the Unreal Discord. But that's just my own personal opinion and not at all representative of the views of Epic Games Studio, Unreal Engine, or Megascans.
quiet narwhal
man @late night you are on a rampage on twitter and I am super curious what is going to happen in a few weeks now
and damnit I missed Amazon pulling out earlier today
deep glen
allar dev conference
quiet narwhal
now I have no engine tech to nerd out over 😦
late night
we will be the engine tech
the real engine is us
the people
let us band together in the face of corporate control
vocal vapor
late night
let us assemble cardboard boxes for everyone
quiet narwhal
I wonder at a ratio level how many people that are physically at GDC are people there for show and tell (companies, indie devs with booths, sales people, etc) compared to the people who come for those people
IE: with all the company people not going how many will actually be left
late night
fo sho
quiet narwhal
welp this is gonna be a fun week
deep glen
be sure to record some footage for us people at home
zinc matrix
@north torrent please calm your lettuce
quiet narwhal
with the signal to noise ratio being so much lower this year I am actually worried I might have to talk to people lol
fathom wadi
Someone should have started making react videos to GDC departures. With clickbait titles like "Epic hates developers" and "Microsoft, NWO puppet, or open source pioneer. You decide !"
north torrent
Well, all my stuff is still locked up in quarantine because of the coronavirus, and I lost my job. Then got another job. Then lost that job. Then got another job.
So I'm not too upset over GDC.
north torrent
Coronavirus.
fathom wadi
I remember when that happened to me. I got a job, then lost it, got another immediately after, then lost that immediately. Finally got a third job but realised being a male prostitute wasn't for me.
north torrent
Have you tried being a female prostitute?
fathom wadi
yeah but the clients all get very angry
winter zealot
@late night sorry to say that tho but pls maybe consider not going to gdc because of the coronavirus etc
deep glen
getting a bit too far peeps :p
winter zealot
i'm sorry for fussing about it, I understand that there are only few casualties but
there's no vaccine etc, it does seems to be entirely out of control
tsallamsaying, maybe gdc can wait
north torrent
I'm going back to China, so I wouldn't be too worried about San Francisco.
winter zealot
also Mao sorry for your job loss tho
north torrent
I ended up making $600 more a month, so it worked out. But looking for jobs is annoying.
winter zealot
it is
north torrent
Everyone wants to interview you and stuff...
winter zealot
yeah that's anoying, when i was looking for jobs usually I'd go where offers were posted with a portfolio, only a bunch of questions and it'd work out most of the time
zinc matrix
cool
winter zealot
but I can relate to annoying interviews, it's like ppls are not sure of what they're looking for
I mean, my job had other bad sides other than interviews but still
north torrent
Coronavirus?
winter zealot
hah no I hope interviewers don't ask coronavirus related questions
like, it'd be the stupidest 😊
north torrent
I meant coronavirus was one of the other bad sides.
zinc matrix
corona means crown so its virus of the kings
winter zealot
yeah that's definitely a bad side 😮
zinc matrix
if you dont catch corona then your not royal blood
north torrent
I can go get my computer on March 16th though.
zinc matrix
computer is very good thing for a deve
my family doesnt understand why its my hobby or passion
and try to convince me to join the tv zombies lifestyle
north torrent
Yup, hard to do much of anything with a laptop.
I can still do some stuff on my i7-920 pc. Just no raytracing...
zinc matrix
you can, just not realtime
red basin
GDC canceled oh snap
neon iris
Twitter
red basin
No prime booth for Allar
signal citrus
novel latch
I like eggs
zinc matrix
didn't all spam in lounge start from guys tag?
soft night
all things got to summer
zinc matrix
Plague Inc. says there will be no summer
soft night
Twitter
neon iris
I wonder how many people are going to repost that link
alpine fern
postponed, not canceled, so no refunds 
upbeat cipher
Might have to call myself "Meat eaters club - join us" and post pro meat ad's 😛
nova finch
I am obviously pro-pizza
neon iris
"All current paid registrants will be receiving a full refund within 4-6 weeks. Additionally, all applicable pass holders will be receiving their GDC Vault access emails within three weeks. For more information, please visit our Frequently Asked Questions page: www.gdconf.com/faq"
ancient hornet
https://gdconf.com/news/important-gdc-2020-update
hey it's a different link!
upbeat cipher
ohhh yes pro pizza too
north torrent
I ate a pizza once.
zinc matrix
i will make best game in planet
soft night
unlimited GDC access for summer from paid registars and then allar become a King of GDC
late night
might have to make our own conference
soft night
@upbeat cipher have you seen kiwi in pizza
late night
in the park
north torrent
I've had mango pizza.
nova finch
mango pizza sounds pretty good
novel latch
kiwi in pizza? yikes
soft night
salmiakkpizza is cool
nova finch
just a little a salamipizza
upbeat cipher
@soft night well the kiwi in my name is a fat bird, i would go to jail for that as a topping
but kiwifruit on pizza eww
north torrent
Do they taste good?
deep glen
they tasted so good they almost got extinct
north torrent
Note to self, don't taste good if you want to survive.
deep glen
its like lobsters hehe, in theory they are immortal, yet taste good with butter
soft night
salmiakkipizza have turkish pepper with pineapple on pizza
neon iris
On the other hand, taste so good that you’re domesticated and you’ll be amoung the largest population on earth
north torrent
I had a lobster burrito the other day.
neon iris
north torrent
I don't know how to open a lobster though.
quiet narwhal
All current paid registrants will be receiving a full refund within 4-6 weeks. Additionally, all applicable pass holders will be receiving their GDC Vault access emails within three weeks. For more information, please visit our Frequently Asked Questions page: www.gdconf.com/faq```sooooo
deep glen
nutcracker or banhammer
quiet narwhal
damnit
deep glen
hug
quiet narwhal
I just got the email how did you guys get it earlier
soft night
deep glen
soft night
well i got it via discord
quiet narwhal
oh well I guess I shoulddn't be working then
north torrent
I traded in my banhammer years ago.
soft night
when someone got it with twitter
upbeat cipher
that reads more like a cancel than a postpone
pearl compass
postponed to next year 😄
north torrent
Did you know that Epic bought Quixel Megascans? @quiet narwhal
quiet narwhal
I did
it says postponed till later in the summer but honestly? With events in the next 3 months being cancelled due to the virus its gonna be a bit before sanity takes hold again
north torrent
I start school in Shanghai on March 16th.
neon iris
I got warned there would be an announcement at 7pm est
quiet narwhal
well poop there goes my vacation time
signal citrus
back to being an internet ghost i suppose
zinc matrix
is anyone here using unity?
deep glen
Twitter
signal citrus
gg lol, save the devs
quiet narwhal
@late night so you still going ? Wife and I still trying to decide if we should but doesnt seem like it's worth it now
real palm
If he can get the convention center 🤔
late night
my group cancelled the hotel but I strongly believe we'll be able to rebook at a lower price
and if anything magical happens you're damn right I'll just book a hotel myself
signal citrus
allarcon2020?
late night
man
nova finch
Allar2020
north torrent
Buy a vacation home.
zinc matrix
@late night so you have friends?
late night
a group called NotGDC is already on it and they're gonna outperform AllarGDC
soft night
Allar2020 Pres
late night
I need more clout
signal citrus
I'd help fund a allarcon
real palm
Announce that you're going to make an announcement about your source control
alpine fern
so is allar source control actually gonna be a thing?
quiet narwhal
I think the not gdc is a remote thing
late night
oh
alpine fern
if it has a command line interface, obviously the command should be allar xyz
rich quiver
Twitter
nova finch
"resource-deprived"
quiet narwhal
not a white male
atomic barn
poor dev,. can afford tix to GDC
deep glen
the networking is worth quite a bit though
upbeat cipher
well to be fare there were funds for some groups to get in free
quiet narwhal
I only go for the networking and I don't even network I just go to say hi to people and hope I get free food
it's been working good so far lol 🙂
deep glen
the food there is deadly
quiet narwhal
nah I end up with like Allar and friends and they introduce me to some weird and fun food
atomic barn
the food there is deadly
Because its contaminated with Coronavirus
red basin
Hopefully next year gets no hiccups. Was planning to go lol
late night
GDC is about 15% of the reason I go to GDC
red basin
What’s 85%
late night
networking and food and parties
winter zealot
it looks like it's just postponed tho, GDC hapenning later this year, that's great
red basin
I thought networking was like the major reason people go?
late night
you can network at gdc without gdc
quiet narwhal
postponed to the summer reaaaaally does not mean anything right now
winter zealot
Rami and @gamedevworld are awesome at making a fundraiser for ppl having invested alot in a GDC tix
yeah tho MathewW agreed that we've yet to see how it turns out
but it'd be awesome if this coronavirus affair would be done 3 months from now
atomic barn
By summer 100% of ppl will be infected so it wont matter
red basin
I mean vaccine won’t even be available for like a year+ they estimate.
winter zealot
also, being careful helps the flu being done faster
red basin
Just timing of trials etc
winter zealot
yup, I don't know where this is going tho
upbeat cipher
its no worse than the flu, its just the media blowing things up
red basin
Nowhere most likely
ancient hornet
I won't get infected even if I need to starve to death locked in my home!
red basin
Lol
winter zealot
if this thing can be contained with more efforts or not etc
red basin
Lots of vitamin C and hand sanitizer
It’s a little worse than flu but overall if you’ve got a healthy immune system you shouldn’t be too concerned
zinc matrix
lot of poor games
winter zealot
hm hm
north torrent
I bought all the surgical masks left in the United States.
soft night
you have to change them often as if you touch them with your dirty hands its useless
upbeat cipher
just don't leave the house,
soft night
just keeping up from personal hygiene is good thing in firstplace
winter zealot
wondering how to avoid crowded areas for shopping etc
tulip orbit
I'm gonna go to a mall and start coughing on everybody 😄
winter zealot
i'm gonna run around in circles screaming like in the spongebob squarepants cartoon
zinc matrix
hmm, I wonder if you could rob a bank by coughing
neon iris
The hysteria is high enough
zinc matrix
HALOOo
zinc matrix
is anyone here using unity
i have a great serializer script for free from internet and i wonder if i should use it
north torrent
Anyone using Unity would be on the Unity Discord server.
zinc matrix
here too they can be
north torrent
Is anybody here Amish?
neon iris
Only when I see a purple banana
zinc matrix
@north torrent anybody whos Amish would be on Amish server
north torrent
Amish people can't own computers.
north torrent
Like people who vote Republican?
late night
@neon iris the only few times I tried using discord notes to label people as marketplace pirates I ended up accidentally dm'ing them the word 'Pirate'
not awkward at all
upbeat cipher
what is a market place pirate?
late night
someone who yells arrrrgh
late night
zinc matrix
😮
north torrent
Pirate
upbeat cipher
i get annoyed when people call ppl using marketplace assets, "asset flippers", those are people who don't understand what a actual asset flipper is.
north torrent
Using assets is perfectly viable. Not everyone can or wants to do every job.
upbeat cipher
true and why reinvent the wheel
north torrent
A lot of what makes environment art beautiful comes from composition, color theory, lighting, effects, and post process. You can take assets made by someone else and make it beautiful.
Just because you didn't make said rock yourself doesn't mean the artistic vision wasn't yours.
One of my previous jobs in the game industry, the most complex thing I ever 3d modeled was the freaken moon. Doesn't mean my environment art was less art.
upbeat cipher
the other thing that gets my goat, the hate videos and posts about the epic store. Epic is pro dev's look at all the money that have given away, look at the only 12% they take, look at the free content on the market place, look at the free games, and the fact steam copied the epic store layout. Epic exclusives give the devs an instant reward for their efforts. The launcher is free nobody is being excluded why are people so upset by it all.....
north torrent
I buy everything off the Epic Games Store if it is available. I avoid Steam at all costs.
upbeat cipher
and you know the games will be quality games, not just the crap chucked up on steam
north torrent
I won't put my game on Steam.
upbeat cipher
or gog now lol 😛
zinc matrix
to my surprise even really really good games get negative reputation on steam
i will not put my game anywhere where game can be rated
only on places where you can give likes only and not negatives
this will manipulate audience into thinking my game is good
upbeat cipher
epic is brining in a rating system it us in the pipeline
north torrent
The lack of being able to have a neutral opinion on a game makes the Steam system useless for rating games.
north torrent
I plan to sell my game on USB drives... I'm odd...
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix
Unblock me, I have something I wanna show you regarding licensing for Star Wars, could be able to help you
upbeat cipher
well 8big guy sold like 3000 copies of his game last year on floppy disk
north torrent
I am going to go grass roots level and sell my game to people at local game, comic book, and anime conventions.
upbeat cipher
you could use some of those tiny usb sticks built into the box, make it collectable
north torrent
I'm going to get some custom ones printed. They will cost me about $3 each if I buy 200 or more.
This kind of thing, but my game is not Geico...
Though maybe it should be...
upbeat cipher
that is quite cool @north torrent
red basin
but do they have usb
late night
no but anyone I would give my card to hopefully knows not to plug strange usb devices into things
upbeat cipher
lol that might cause a few sparks
red basin
always plug the free usb fans directly into your main laptop and PC
upbeat cipher
would not damage anything the pc would just shutdown until the 5v rail is not longer shorting
plucky pagoda
Get a metal card bottle opener
I got one from a vendor when I ran nightclubs and carried that thing in my wallet for years
Looked like this one and wish I knew where I lost it
red basin
I dont know how much they cost but ive seen a few variations of a business card that plays testris or a single simple game.
north torrent
The USB isn't meant to be my business card. That is how I will sell the game, from my website or at booths in the vendor hall of conventions.
If you want to buy my game you pay money and I will ups you a card to your home. No downloads.
red basin
personally I would rather download a game than give a person my address
thats just me
the vendor idea less objectionable 😛
north torrent
Makes sense, but that's what everyone else is doing.
late night
my cards don't have contact info
north torrent
Just download it off The Pirate Bay if you don't have a mailing adress.
late night
actually yes
red basin
neon iris
multipurpose knife card
zinc matrix
Allar we lov u
plucky pagoda
Looks decent. I like the metal ones that are functional though, bottle opener or multi-tool etc... People tend to carry them more and that means you're in their face more.