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signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:26 AM

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anything with the Module. prefix as an input in that module shows up as an input

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the whole thing is like a really weird tree of communication (niagara)

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after prefixing its all pretty straight forward luckily

quiet narwhal Feb 15, 2020, 4:29 AM

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gotcha

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:29 AM

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wish animation blueprints were this way lol

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 4:32 AM

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nice

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Yeah it’s super programmer minded

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Cascade is still in there though right Mathew?

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:09 AM

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@quiet narwhal Wow, I see what you mean. That's a big paradigm shift for the Modes panel.

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And I guess Place Actors just stays behind as its own dedicated panel. Honestly that makes sense to me.

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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I’m just happy I have tiny toolbar now

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Am curious what phy thinks about that though, his voxel tools

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 AM

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The small toolbar icons setting is a blessing on laptops.

alpine fern Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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what happened with modes?

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/187217643009212416/221796616653373441/678081140514619405

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Zeb

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Quite different. They all work similarly to the mesh editing plugin now.

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Haven’t tried that yet, it sounds powerful

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I'm still undecided... Grayboxin'?

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Why would have simple ops on meshes, when can use the dcc?

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:18 AM

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I think the built-in mesh editor would be perfect for game jams.

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When you only need very simple geometry, building it right in the engine sounds super convenient.

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I'm imagining the mesh editor as the successor to the old BSP geometry mode.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:19 AM

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or in Blender with one button to send it to unreal 😄

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Hmm... maybe, yea. Or just spit out something custom and low effort. But really, you can have collections of these. Dunno.

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:19 AM

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That new Blender plugin does look sweet.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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its a complete godsend

rare sparrow Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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They're also adding scripting for it, so you can do sort of Houdini like stuff in a way

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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I know Kaye Vassey has been working on it for literally years

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Eh I'm still probably going to stick to FBX export.

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A bit slow but it works fine.

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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There's already an extensive API for doing procedural mesh stuff in Blueprints.

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 AM

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LiveLinks are convenient.

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Wait is it a livelink?

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Between that and the mesh editor, there's some really cool options for custom tools.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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moreso with blender which is a pain to use with UE4 at times

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Thought it was just an exporting function.

sleek furnace Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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😭 Hi guys, do you know if Epic´s Mega Grants is over? I applied almost 3 months ago (26/11/2019)... but Epic Games haven´t even played my in-game footage, not even once.... its a video game and its way better 3 months latter.

agile egret Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 AM

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For blender, I had to write up a guide for myself on how to properly import a rigged/animated model, that gets split up into a static meshes with skeletal mesh support so you can build modular mechanical vehicles w/ synchronized animations.... all in blueprint with no c++

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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nice

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Its a button, haven't looked really. So its not real run-time as far I understood. @vocal vapor

agile egret Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 AM

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I hope the new plugin doesn't cause me grief

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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Ah alright.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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aside from it using Collections to seperate content for export, it looks perfect. But on that im not sure

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if it has to be, so be it but hmmm

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 AM

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@sleek furnace The Epic MegaGrants program is expected to last 5 years, just like the Unreal Dev Grants program.

sleek furnace Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Cool, thanks for replying!

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Epic is super backlogged with MegaGrants applications, last I heard.

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I'll probably just stick to exporting to FBX for now then because I'm not sure if it supports 4.21 which I'm still using for my projects.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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no it will be 4.23 +

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Alrighty.

alpine fern Feb 15, 2020, 5:25 AM

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oh so all of the modes are like the mesh editor now br_thinking

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Yes.

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Main feature I'm interested in right now is Chaos physics and fracturing.

sleek furnace Feb 15, 2020, 5:25 AM

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My project is really cool, i hope they see it, thanks for your reply, its just i only received an auto repply when i applied and that was it

vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:26 AM

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PhysX and ApeX are fine but Chaos has super nice fracturing tools.

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:26 AM

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@sleek furnace You'll get a response within 90 days. It will either say yes, no, or "we need more time to make a decision."

alpine fern Feb 15, 2020, 5:27 AM

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note: the latter is far more likely than the other 2 options

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Yeah, like I said it seems they're super backlogged.

alpine fern Feb 15, 2020, 5:27 AM

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and that email is probably automated too

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Lots of applications, unsurprisingly.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Imagine how many fake claims they would have to filter

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Yeah, and I doubt they have a full-time team working on MegaGrants. Probably an internal committee.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Maybe a good method would be to bring attention to your project some way. A small marketing campaign or write up an interview and email it to some websites who need content for free

bronze axle Feb 15, 2020, 5:29 AM

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^Totally. If Epic notices it, someone who's seen the application might recognize it.

sleek furnace Feb 15, 2020, 5:29 AM

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That´s awesome! wow.... i love this chat, thanks Pfist!!! i applied on (26/11/2019), but i´ll release my project as soon as possible, hopfully in less than that, i wish they feedback before release, yeah i understand, there is a lot of great projects out there, i have seen some greatness.

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Bender wants a Megagrant to get his BendyBones into UE4 😄

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vocal vapor Feb 15, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Oh yeah bendy bones are a thing in Blender. Haven't used those in years.

sleek furnace Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 AM

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yeah, that´s good advise, but i´m too focused right now, even sleeping is a nxt for me right now ahahah... but i will release a Sneak Peek by the end of this month, the game is almost done, but i still need to work on the trailer, wich is a lot of rendering time and playing to get great scenes

north torrent Feb 15, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Well, time to get back to UMG...

queen flint Feb 15, 2020, 6:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/hi-everybody-simpsons-wave-gif-12144219

Tenor

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Men, I love fixing these few important pixels which nobody gonna see.

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Oh trust me, I will find them

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 7:45 AM

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You won't coz they will be fixed - buhaha.

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Who cares about the project, let's fall into details paradise.

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 7:46 AM

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All the small things

north torrent Feb 15, 2020, 7:58 AM

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That's what she said.

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 7:59 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/sloth-carrots-me-time-gif-13196807

Tenor

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 8:10 AM

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That's rather big

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 8:44 AM

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🤦‍♂️

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:15 AM

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so...

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games n shit

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Is anyone here?

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:21 AM

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nope, no one here

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Nah dont say it. Its not healthy to think of urself as no one

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@pearl elk what r y doin

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:24 AM

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As I am no one, I am doing no thing

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Oof

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:24 AM

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but seriously, Im writing a C++ spell casting system for UE4

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Omg

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Crazino

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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more like boringo 😛

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Lool

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I need to do mining minerals and chooping wood system.. but ive been recently playing with clouds instead

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:26 AM

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why not mining clouds?

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Lool

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:27 AM

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you can call the resource... Etherium

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Tru

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But as the very basics, i need wood and metal mining

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:27 AM

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is this one of those survival things?

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:28 AM

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No, i need them to build

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:30 AM

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so RTS

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Nah

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I wonder if ill be able to get money from patreon

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Like im doing it out of passion and all

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But if i received some it would be good

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:34 AM

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maybe try joining a project where you can earn some money if thats your goal

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:35 AM

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I have to speed up cause my competition is still developing their game

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I must release my before their

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:36 AM

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who is your competition?

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:36 AM

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I cant say

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But they have 12 members

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I heard only 2 coders though so i need to verify that

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They also already have huge audience

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If it's just 2 coders then i can surpass them

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By working more

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Im not sure thats how it works

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Uhh i mean i can finish my project before them if they have just 2 coders

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But for now they have done much more than me

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:39 AM

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try focusing on your project and what the audience wants, keeping an eye on your competition is important but releasing before them is meaningless

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:39 AM

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Its not lol

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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Fortnite wasnt the first Battle Royale game was it?

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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The first one to release will get the initial spike in players

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I get what u mean

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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Thats really not how it works, most people wont even know your game exists

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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They will know

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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If anything them releasing first will give the type of game youre making more publicity that you can capitalise on by releasing the superior product not some rushed can of shite

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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No it was already done

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And we are riding off someone else audience

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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By any chance did you get kicked off your competitions team?

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:41 AM

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No

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Loll

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Gaah... the freakin editor crashed on me

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zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:42 AM

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@pearl elk but my plus is that i target 4 audiences

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Every major game feature appeals to different audience

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Eg building to mc and rust lovers.. etc.. andtheres more

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Thats not how it works though, sure you can appeal to certain types of gamers with those features but just because they are in your game doesnt add those people to your audience magically

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Oh ive wasted an hour. Wtf. Have to go cya

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@pearl elk ofc not all of them but some for sure

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:44 AM

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far less than you think without any marketing

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Good marketing campaign takes time, its not something you rush. You build up anticipation for launch then eventually boom hit em with the best product you got. That will help to establish your companies reputation which is extremely important.

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Tru

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But then my competition will know that they cant sleep

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If i release trailer

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but your approach is good

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:52 AM

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they know what to expect from you if theyve seen your trailer

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:52 AM

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ye as of now they dont know my existence

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i mean my competition

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:53 AM

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exactly which means they have no idea what your game is, it means your product can do things theirs cant especially if your release is later

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Look at Apex Legends for eg, Fortnite had to adapt after the fact because of features that game had so releasing later has its advantages

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:54 AM

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nah lol

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i mean your right

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but

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staying in the dark has advantages too

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also fugg this reddit, they ban my accounts if i put a link even if I already have 50 non spammy posts

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:55 AM

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lets for example say you release first, they see your game they can take any of your gameplay mechanics and put it in their title if they were so inclined. They push their release back and really work on securing a lead over your title since they can play it and take notes

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:55 AM

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yes

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but thats only if theyre crazy

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:55 AM

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If they release first then you can do that same thing to them

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:55 AM

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also some of my features need to be added

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in the very first steps of game development

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so they cant add them without starting from zero

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 10:56 AM

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br_smile_tiny

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 10:56 AM

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well yes you see i dont think i can make features like their but better

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 10:57 AM

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hey monsi how is it going

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:57 AM

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If your product does have a competitive advantage over theirs then it doesnt matter if you beat em to the market or not. They also arnt really your direct competition if you have enough unique selling points

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Pretty good dude, how you doin?

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Is it just me or has there been an uptick in new members around, I wonder if that has anything to do with Global Game Jam

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 10:58 AM

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https://gyazo.com/c039ecf140c26a23104b529f28a711f2 I have an #1 world issue

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just spammed on twitter hoping someone is able to put some clearance into this

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I'm basically on denial I wouldn't like to have two components for these selection circles

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 10:59 AM

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is that a decal?

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 10:59 AM

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it is a decal + a plane

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but without the switching logic between them

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I need the circle to stay below the target while in air

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aaand to blend while on the ground

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and I would like to know if this can be done with just one component

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instead of with two (+ swap between them)

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in the gif the swapping thing is not implemented

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:00 AM

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if youre hiding/unhiding components thats fast

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:00 AM

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sort of I'd actually lerp it

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so it isn't that abrupt

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but that would be the option if I have to use two components

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there is a technique for swadows

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called blobing

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maybe it is applicable but I have no clue

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:01 AM

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you could try procmesh if you want to get techy 😛

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:01 AM

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not a tech art person

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make the mesh shaped into the terrain shape hahaha

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that would be crazy tho

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I'd like not to

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:02 AM

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it sounds like a post effect might even be the way to go

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:02 AM

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it really sounds like a decal + plane

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so ideally

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some sort of decal that if it doesn't find anything where to project

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it projects on the top face of the decal volume

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that's really what I need

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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oh I know what you could do

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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go ahead

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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rather than using a plane with the texture on it, use the plane as something to project the decal onto as well

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so when you jump bring the plane up from under the ground to the feet, its the same projection just hitting an invisible plane

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that'll be $100 😛

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:05 AM

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I tried that already

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and it leaves artifacts on

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 11:08 AM

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i need to take bath

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but im workign on my projects atm

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:09 AM

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You might have a decal box which is too big after youve jumped, it might need to be shrunk and enlarged when youre near the ground

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:11 AM

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but a decal won't paint over an invisible plane

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:14 AM

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why not hehe

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:16 AM

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it needs some solid where to paint over

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:36 AM

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looks like you might be stuck, personally I think custom stencil would work

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:37 AM

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I am super stuck actually

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mind to elaborate?

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outline enemies?

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or what

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:38 AM

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custom stencil would make a mask that you can highlight in post

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:38 AM

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and how do I determine where do I place the mask

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I'm a newbie in effects btw

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:41 AM

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I think you could make an object which renders only to the stencil

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:41 AM

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and how I make it to project in the terrain, custom depth?

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:41 AM

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yeah you can use distance fields to do the occlusion

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 11:42 AM

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sounds overly complex for my little tech art brain

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okay so custom depth for terrain projection

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distance field for culling

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and... how do I make the circle to stay below the target at all times and not to appear only under custom depth situations

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 11:57 AM

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make it a mesh 😛

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 12:21 PM

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I know it's super late for you but I'll need to chat to you about this tomorrow or another day

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because It sounds like it

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 12:27 PM

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for now I think youd be fine with what you got. Might be better just to move on than get stuck on it

finite lark Feb 15, 2020, 12:32 PM

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yes in a way, but the intent of this project is learning

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 12:41 PM

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wish I could learn something 😛

mossy nexus Feb 15, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I wanna learn to do this effect https://twitter.com/Vuthric/status/1226257386131746817

Asher Zhu (@Vuthric)

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median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Yeah its confirmed the new Doom is rachet and clank no doom

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Spoken like a true noob

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IDs had platformer elements in their games forever, including the FPS games

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just cuz the grapple didnt come later till Quake doesnt make it any less definitive

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just watch a high level Xonotic match with instagib+hooks

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jump pads, lift jumps, dodge jump, double jumps all in FPS games before Ratchet and Clank was a sperm

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Go back to Halo and CoD scrub 😛

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Yeah, Commander Keen 🤘

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 2:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUPAm71u2HU

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C!ao

Quake 3 Arena Hook + Rail (Frag movie)

Game: Quake 3 Arena
Player: C!ao
Frags collection from Q3A 1.16 hook+rail servers. If you want to use the hook, connect to a q3a server with grappling-hook enabled and type /bind mouse2 +Button5 in your q3a console then press Enter.

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bleak thicket Feb 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/flimwWd.gif

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When Riot finally adds more mastery achievements, but then locks them behind a paywall

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making custom builds in unreal engine is a pain in the ass

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 2:03 PM

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this is why I dont

cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Never liked Quake. I amma UT fan unreal

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 2:05 PM

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UT, whats that?

mossy nexus Feb 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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oo tea?

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cursive crypt Feb 15, 2020, 2:20 PM

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😒

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 2:21 PM

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nice trolling TRY Epic

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🤖

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 2:27 PM

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youre doing it the long way 😛

safe current Feb 15, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Hi Im new to the UE4 Engine and Game Design as a whole.
I have a background in some mediocre use of GameMaker and Java Script but never anything with the power or complexity quite like UE4 or C++. I wanted to see if anyone had any small tips or could help me figuring out where to start.

radiant prairie Feb 15, 2020, 3:07 PM

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I found the UE4 documentation + the training / demonstration videos on the Unreal channel to be useful

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Theres a wealth of information on youtube now, from GDC clips to game aficionados who break down games and their mechanics. I really suggest finding small things to start with, when I started I was a modder so I added onto existing games and with each one I bit off more and more until I could make an entire gamemode.

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Even wikipedia is well versed on game mechanics now so you can look things up on there. Learn the principles of design, problem solving techniques and conceptualisation. I find one thing from early school I still use heavily is the 5Ws, its always a good starting point

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 3:55 PM

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it's so annoying when people can't dislike platformer mechanics in an fps ...

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I mean, it's ok to dislike platformer mechanics in a fps isn't it ? even if some good fps have platforming moments

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anyway...

safe current Feb 15, 2020, 3:56 PM

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cough Advanced Warfare cough

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 3:56 PM

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ah I'm sorry I didn't play this one

safe current Feb 15, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Exactly

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Try Metroid prime

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 3:57 PM

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yup!

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also sorry @safe current here are a bunch of ressources to start UE4 : youtube videos on how to use blueprints

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFXMW_UEDco

safe current Feb 15, 2020, 3:58 PM

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kappa

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I like this

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 3:58 PM

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hah sorry it wasn't what you were looking for 😅

safe current Feb 15, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Lol

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@winter zealot people can dislike all they want but when they are factually incorrect I must say something

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@pearl elk sure, plat mechanics were there since quake and all that, it's a fact indeed

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Im certainly not suggesting anyone must like Quake or any ID game 🙂

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They did kinda create the genre though so while people can dislike platform mechanics in FPS its been there in spirit since day uno

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:00 PM

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q3 had awesome platforming moments but yeah not everyone might have played it

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:00 PM

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im now doing unity sorry

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I never heard people giving Mirrors Edge crap over being Ratchet and Clank

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No the response to that was wooo so edgy, how did they think to merge platformer and FPS

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I’m not sure I’d call q3 a platformer really though

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I would have entirely missed out on q3 if it wasn't for an awesome coincidental encounter in a netcafe

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q3 has bouncing pads and things like that, but it's not a plat by all means

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Its not so much they are platformers but contain similar mechanics, pits, voids, lava, jump pads, lifts, traps in the case of Q1 and 2

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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If jumping means platformer then yeah

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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@zinc matrix be sure to give Godot a try tho, it's becoming awesome as well like unity 😄

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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@winter zealot not with so little tutorials and educational material

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:02 PM

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gdquest on youtube is neat, gdnative is fairly new

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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as i said. not with so little.

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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okies, unity is very solid in temrs of documentation tho indeed

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Keep track of your time spent msfs pay attention to the reality of releasing something on unity

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@winter zealot and has more educational materia.

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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UE4 is good as well once you're used to the issues it has, I use it and i'm happy with it

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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its not worth to use godot

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:03 PM

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You could easily do a more realistic platformer, they are out there from Prince of Persia to Another World, those arnt all arcady and grapple madness like Batman 😛

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:04 PM

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I’d say they write the docs before the code on unity

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:04 PM

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it's robust, can be fast to use especially with the latest python scripting and editor widgets

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Stuff is easy to explain hard to use

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:05 PM

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@signal citrus Keep track of your time spent msfs pay attention to the reality of releasing something on unity
<- ?

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:05 PM

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live++ allows for almost enjoyable c++ programming with UE4 as well

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i'd say people would need a good ryzen processor to work with UE4 c++ tho

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Yeah don’t let yourself fall into endless development

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:05 PM

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context? 😄

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Unity is context

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:06 PM

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development hell, its where developers go when theyve filled their coffee meter

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Subscription model keeps you developing

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:07 PM

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i just said godot is not good bcs. it has little education material

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:07 PM

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the problem tho is that UE4 isn't as scalable as unity or godot, and Epic seems to want UE4 to have awesome graphics and be used in many industries instead of being lean and fast to use like unity... that's what it looks like when seeing what features Epic is choosing to add to UE4

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Godot is just a tool though, it takes using a tool to really master it no instruction manual will do that

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:07 PM

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godot also has a non-optimal 3d renderer, vblanco talked alot about that, but they're going to improve it

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uh, instruction manuals are great not to spend hours searching a specific feature 😦

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good doc is absolutely a feature of a good engine imo, learning time is time spent instead of making games

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Oh dont get me wrong Im not saying theyre not useful, its just not required for successful operation and mastery of a tool

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Nah referring to unity. If your going that route do stay on top of how much actually gets done. Unity is more or less a brain massage I’ve found. Makes you think your hyper learning but it’s infrastructure can’t perform

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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bad doc== spending 2 to 3 hours on how to figure an undocumented problem or thing todo

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I can't even imagine how UE4 would be without the wiki for instance

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I actually started with UE and there was only a community run wiki

winter zealot Feb 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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wikis are aweosme

ancient hornet Feb 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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UE4 isn't scalable? oO

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Developers really are spoilt these days, we had very few tutorials but now they are all over the internet so much information

ancient hornet Feb 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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and Godot is?

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ah, you mean downscale

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I remember one of the first tutorials I found was how to make a rotating door in Quake engine

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Thats such a basic task these days in most engines

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Yeah mons agree on spoiling

ancient hornet Feb 15, 2020, 4:13 PM

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heck, how about making a vertical door in Doom 😄

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or any door at all

bold fulcrum Feb 15, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Good deal of tutorials are tutorializing in wrong direction though.

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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I couldnt even get Doom level editing tools to not crash lol

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I used Build and Quake out of necessity mainly

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Those impossible bsp leaks 😡

ancient hornet Feb 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Doom level editors were my first contact with C code if I remember well, and how I learned C 🙂

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BSP was annoying for sure

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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“The hell is this red winding arrow saying here”

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Wolf 3D was easy to make levels for lol

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I went through the Hex codes for MapEdit to find some secrets

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took me awhile to test them all to see which was what

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These days though couple of mins, go online boop, there they are easy no need to learn hexadecimal

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Get psyched

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:17 PM

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how do you find these clouds? are they 2020 like or more like 2010 like?

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📎 Ascending-through-the-clouds-pcgh.png

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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That render is so fake

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:18 PM

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o.o no this is ingame

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 4:19 PM

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welp

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in 2010 we didn't had that

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I think the clouds on the left look pretty good but there's something about the ones more on the right that make them look... clumpy? solid?

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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2010 we had a sequel to a space odyssey

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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is the same based on distance

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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the light needs to disperse more amongst the softer edges of the cloud or something, no idea :)

ancient hornet Feb 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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right, I feel like the light needs to diffuse more inside the clouds

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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it probably looks better in motion than in still picture I'd imagine

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 PM

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@foggy path u should apply to that game studio

ancient hornet Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 PM

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but maybe I'm wrong

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do you have target photo examples you use?

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 PM

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you know what really gives it away, its because Im on the outside of the plane and everything is clear

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I probably shouldn't because I have no idea how to make that work lol

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 PM

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oh ^^

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I can code but I can't do art or effects lol

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:22 PM

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In-flight ice forms at altitudes up to 7300 metres (24,000 feet), when the aircraft's surfaces hit supercooled water droplets suspended in the air.

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You guys seen this on flights too right on the glass?

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:22 PM

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You don't need to be 7300 meters in the air to have supercooled droplets hit you

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:23 PM

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exactly I just grabbed some rando quote off google 🙂

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:23 PM

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supercooled rain is fun when you're trying to drive and it's raining and your windshield instafreezes

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lol

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:23 PM

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but this scene its going into night, theres clouds all around and the plane is crisp as a warm afternoon

soft night Feb 15, 2020, 4:23 PM

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snowing in darktime is fun as it looks like you are driving in hyperspace

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 4:24 PM

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:D

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Yeah snow in pitch dark is like that

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But annoying if you're going fast because it makes it very hard to see anything

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I havent driven in snow myself but I have driven high altitude where I was higher than the fog and since the moon was out it was all a blue glow under me

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I musta had my pixie dust that night

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I enjoy driving in snow too

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Screensaver style

soft night Feb 15, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I have driven fast on dark and snowing and it was fun also i saw alot

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Im glad you didnt go to plaid

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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https://twitter.com/Hevedy/status/1228725593207902208

David "Hevedy" Palacios (@Hevedy)

#HevedyToolbox version 1.2.4
Renaming tool
#indiedev #gamedev #gameart #UE4 https://t.co/nN7O3FIL5m

▶ Play video

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Pixels level max

alpine fern Feb 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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these are the highest quality pixels

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Made the new tool version, corrected the store and the web, so far the day did good

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Let me think what I can do to make it worse, hmm...

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too much blur on this video

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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give the thanks to Twitter

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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you could make GIF

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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the video is 5mb I mean

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lol

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Don't have to tools to make a gift can't export as is

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should use some of these online craps

alpine fern Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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paste mp4 in discord instead it keeps the quality

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Twitter is the cause for alot of low quality 😛

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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You know how much porn you can squeeze into 5Mb Hev? A LOT.

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:25 PM

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let me make another batch file to process video

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📎 ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif

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your dam gif

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📎 Editor8.mp4

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Still can’t read the menu

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PepeHands

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Ah I can see now

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:28 PM

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NOW

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yeah xd

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 5:30 PM

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why not zoom in on the side than show the viewport?

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:30 PM

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.>

signal citrus Feb 15, 2020, 5:32 PM

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scripted actions are cool

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want to read your scripted actions

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:34 PM

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the plugin is at the itch page

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hevedy.itch.io/hevedytoolbox

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not sure if I can post links here tbh

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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you could post it in released?

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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yeah can

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but note the last version I'm porting some of the old blue tools as don't work anymore Epic >.>

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plus the 4.24 have some problems

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done

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well now got a simple batch to conver videos @pearl elk

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😂

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 5:48 PM

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man I have way too many tabs open

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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You could always install Opera, it will use 20% just by being open.

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I have 4 tabs open, 2 Github, 1 AppHarbor and MongoDB Atlas. Fucking 16-22% one opera process is taking. 130MB.

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@signal citrus have a lot of issues the last version, old one you can do a lot of things on new ones Epic not sure what they did but broke every part

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a lot of contents missing

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Like this is to manage assets and you can't get any asset from the scene lol

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the function is just gone and disabled

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Opera is owned by some chinese investment firm nowadays

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Apparently they recently started to market short term loans under the Opera brand...

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I would stay away from that browser, if you are an old school Opera user, try Vivaldi instead

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Ive closed about 100 tabs and I still have about 60 open 😛

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 6:00 PM

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By the way @signal citrus there you go

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📎 UE4Editor_2020-02-15_19-00-22.png

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:p XD

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thats every function call on different settings by the way

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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XD lol

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back in school my peers once got to my phone and my messages were like XD LOL GG WP :PP all the time on my chats and they read that and have that wtf moment

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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📎 chrome_2020-02-15_19-11-45.png

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haahahah

pearl elk Feb 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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how do I get some of mums spaghetti?

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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tf

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the moment when you were coding something for 7 hours but still have nothing, at least I know now how to do it to get it all working

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 6:36 PM

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https://twitter.com/simonschreibt/status/1228450934625316865

Simon (@simonschreibt)

#UnrealEngine users know: It's a pain to share material/blueprint-screenshot as there is NO grabbing feature. Solution: Manually stitch in Photoshop.

I had a ground-breaking idea! Using an Panorama-Stitching-Tool, to auto-stitch screenshots!!

Here is the result. :,D #gamede...

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carmine frigate Feb 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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not a problem i have

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dont share anything 😛

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cldkL157x_o Like a boss.

YouTube

IGN

Tim Sweeney’s Full DICE 2020 Talk

Watch the full video of Epic Games founder Tim Sweeney' DICE Summit talk. Topics range from loot boxes to cross-platform play and games involving politics.

#ign

▶ Play video

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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@median wraith or just unity and normal simple c# 😉

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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what

zinc matrix Feb 15, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@median wraith t oshare code

north torrent Feb 15, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@signal citrus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDQ0lOXp-v4

YouTube

Gamers Nexus

"Pinkflow" Liquid Cooler from AliExpress: Review of ID Cooling's Pi...

The ID Cooling Pinkflow can be picked up for about $100, making it a standard-priced closed-loop liquid cooler (AIO) that has one unique feature: It's pink and white.
Sponsor: Thermaltake Toughram on Amazon (https://geni.us/YzpA5B)

In this review, we're benchmarking and analy...

▶ Play video

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That building he shows right after the cat is the area I buy all my sketchy Chinese computer parts.

dusky shuttle Feb 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Damn, why do you need 16 minutes to show and test a cooler?

north torrent Feb 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Does anyone actually watch the whole video?

dusky shuttle Feb 15, 2020, 8:19 PM

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if no one watches long videos, why make them long to begin with

north torrent Feb 15, 2020, 8:19 PM

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For nerds.

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I hear that youtube penalizes videos that are less than 10 minutes in some search results

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I feel the same way about tutorial videos. Often I see 40-50 minute videos that can be condensed down into 5 minutes or less.

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most of it is the creator chatting shit about nothing

foggy path Feb 15, 2020, 8:24 PM

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that's a bit of a problem with videos I think

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sometimes you have to add more detail, but some users don't need it

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makes the content very hard to skim

fringe sundial Feb 15, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Yong Jea is tghe true master

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he makes videos about some dumb shit and its allways exactly 10 mins

dusky shuttle Feb 15, 2020, 8:43 PM

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dave lee makes videos about dumb shit and it's most often less than 10 minutes

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it's why i watch them when I'm waiting for something

fathom wadi Feb 15, 2020, 8:53 PM

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It sounds to me like a youtube algorithm thing. Perhaps there is a breakpoint where views go up

carmine frigate Feb 15, 2020, 9:07 PM

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yea prolly manipulating the slgo

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*algo

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 9:13 PM

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📎 Editor9.mp4

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Here playing with the widgets, made some kind of decent crap

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Now its focus mons

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😂

agile egret Feb 15, 2020, 9:29 PM

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@median wraith that blueprint stitching actually looks about as close to the real thing you can get xD

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spaghetti is spaghetti, no matter how you dress it up

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 9:30 PM

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real thing compared with what ?

ancient hornet Feb 15, 2020, 9:31 PM

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maybe there's possibility for a plugin to stitch those together in 7D space

agile egret Feb 15, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Take my money!

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But can it fix my errors?

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 9:34 PM

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@agile egret But yeah just for these tools works, on big projects better to have plain code

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https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1228775453386825729

John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack)

I donated my #30 Roadster to the LeMay Auto Museum in Tacoma. https://t.co/ruVdS6OriA

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Why all of them bought these cars back in the time ? xD

stiff crystal Feb 15, 2020, 11:01 PM

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nobody wants to keep them

median wraith Feb 15, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Why?

stiff crystal Feb 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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it's literally the worst tesla ever made

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they just have better cars now

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 12:45 AM

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look up how much the worst volkswagens are worth

wet horizon Feb 16, 2020, 12:50 AM

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the UE answer hub is down

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everybody panic

fathom wadi Feb 16, 2020, 12:57 AM

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its ok. there is always the WTF? videos as backup

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Do 256gb 3600mhz ddr4 kits not exist?

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 1:32 AM

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just get multiple smaller ones

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:33 AM

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thats a little spooky though

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 1:33 AM

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not really if they're the same model

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:34 AM

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they have to be binned together really

bronze axle Feb 16, 2020, 1:34 AM

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AnswerHub is down for maintenance. I should really post about this in #unreal-news.

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:34 AM

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you could get lucky of course

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 1:34 AM

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if that was a real problem, how would people ever fill their 2TB ram servers?

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there's no kits that big

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:34 AM

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you can get sticks of server ram in form of 256gb so idk

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that market is beyond me but i don't think they oc as much

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I'd probably risk trying to oc 3200 to 3600

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ram shopping while completely out of ram is hard

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nice post though pfist 👍

bronze axle Feb 16, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Sure thing. I'll keep an eye out for updates and post again when it's back.

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 1:52 AM

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<headache>.... so i have my ProjectEditor as target and that was all good, but if you then try to add up Chaos it gets into ...... Chaos <badumtss>

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does it actually work now in 4.24.2?

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 1:56 AM

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why people try to use chaos before it's ready?

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 1:57 AM

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preparing for it to come perfectly ;)

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:57 AM

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supposedly because of how they push it in promos lol

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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apparently it's ready in 4.25 though? since they said it's enabled in fortnite now

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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the big point is that Apex and Chaos are colliding, so starting to establish Chaos alternatives to avoid the collide with Apex is kinda relevant if you wanna use it later on

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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mathew was running through master branch yesterday, niagara was enabled by default as well

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 1:58 AM

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finally

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now we need a way to disable cascade

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 1:59 AM

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lol 😂

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https://discordapp.com/channels/187217643009212416/502768251093123073/648959574979641357

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I guess cascade outperforms still

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:00 AM

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wot that makes no sense

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:00 AM

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This was my reaction as well zeb

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:00 AM

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how can gpu sim with niagara be slower than cascade?

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:01 AM

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but thats a niagara dev so idk

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:01 AM

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or is this comparing cpu sim and the problem is the old VectorVM thing can't handle the complex niagara shaders that well

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:01 AM

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🤷

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I'll do science one day to compare the two

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like when my ram comes

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 2:02 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/XHApqO9.jpg

Imgur

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I felt very mathcapped when I tried to use niagara

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 2:04 AM

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when i see how people talked about niagara so far, i think you cant science that, too blackmagic ;)

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:04 AM

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i posted two videos there showing how to use dynamic inputs zeb

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once you get the prefixing down, its pie.

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 2:04 AM

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not without blackmagic testing rituals

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:04 AM

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what is a dynamic input

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:05 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/187217643009212416/502768251093123073/678298215262584844

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502768251093123073/678308259236675594/unknown.png

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thats dynamic input inception

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the blue cyan icons are each one dynamic input

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:06 AM

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what the hell

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:06 AM

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niagara == op

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:06 AM

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is this like some weird tree layout version of what you can also make with a graph?

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:07 AM

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the graph in that first video is what it do

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if you look at those radius xz dynamic inputs

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they take

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A B and Radius

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the graph having a get of Module.A, Module.B, Module.Radius

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is what makes those fields show up

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and you can assign Particles.Position to Modules.A

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(which is the particles' position)

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prefixes are everything in niagara. its really cool

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it feels like a strange mix of text scripting and graphs

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cause Emitter.VariableName lives on the emitter

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Particles.VariableName lives on each particle

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and niagara just figures out the allocations etc

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:10 AM

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what does radius xz do that it takes 2 vectors and a float as input

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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if the two positions are within the radius around y axis then 1.0 is returned otherwise 0.0

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the second video shows it in action

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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oh wait I see what is going on here

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the thing you made is the dynamic input there

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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yep

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i plug it in and use it on second video

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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whats Particles.Output0

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:12 AM

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i don't know tbh

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i should have got rid of it

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wasn't using it

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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what the absolute fuck is that convert node

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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zeb lol 😂

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niagara is so br_big_brain

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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br_boi

📎 unknown.png

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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UE4Client is practical dead meat, or? I mean like, UE4Client-* files in binaries like shouldn't exist, or? I mean in a normal sane situation 8-D

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aehm dead meat probably wrong said, its just a base, and never put out independent

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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they will exist if you make a Client build with a launcher engine

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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define launcher engine in that context, i am unsure what exactly you mean

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oh you mean with a distributed engine

alpine fern Feb 16, 2020, 2:15 AM

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not a source build

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 2:15 AM

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but... if i start it, i make a project name, isnt then that always that name?

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or mix i something up here?

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oh wait, i think i get it, you just talk about non-C++ then

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my head was spinning around C++, so i was confused, but yeah, right, if you just have content you need still some binary and you will have no sub class

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doh

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 2:58 AM

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how you doin all?16h of refactoring code o ye

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 3:08 AM

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man I wish I had someone doing all this 3D modeling for me lol

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this project would move so much quicker

tulip orbit Feb 16, 2020, 3:14 AM

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ok, in material editor, time -> Sine == a value of -1 to 1 right? I cant seem to get it so that it outputs a 0-1 value

turbid willow Feb 16, 2020, 3:15 AM

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guys i had 93GB free space on my drive, and i had to download a 65GB update for COD:MW. When I finished the download it said "Reclaiming Disk Space" and after that finished I still have 93GB free space???? how?

crimson matrix Feb 16, 2020, 3:36 AM

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If Unreal Engine is Open Source, why do you have to license it?🤔

unborn lotus Feb 16, 2020, 3:38 AM

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it's not open source

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Besides, open source software generally requires you to accept their licensing terms

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(for example, using GPL licensed opensource components in your program technically requires you to publish your source code)

fathom wadi Feb 16, 2020, 3:49 AM

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blender seems to have some harsh limits due to its licensing nature. Especially with interoperability with other differently licensed software. Seems counterproductive in its current state

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Odd, even if it was under GPL (or some other "annoying" license), another separate program interoperating with it shouldn't really go into the scope of Blender's license

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unless it's literally using a component or source of Blender to do what it does

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I guess if it's GPL then something like Blender scripts might fall in scope of that too

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:13 AM

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In case of a program like blender i am unsure but AGPL might be still catching on that ;)

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but in general, yeah, programs that are just preparing something that is used in the other are never relevant for any of the licenses

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yeah no, AGPL also wouldn't care, right

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AGPL just enforces you to expose the changes to AGPL code even in the case where you just drive it for running your own service (so even if you dont sell the code itself as product)

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i always thought its the best license for Free Open Source Games, cause then a server admin is by law enforced to reveal his patches.

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hrhr

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Just made my first pull request against unreal engine

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:17 AM

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well I think GPL only requires release of source if the modified program is distributed

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:17 AM

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i am very shocked that this is not yet noticed

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:17 AM

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If it's not distributed, then there's nothing you need to do

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:17 AM

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@foggy path yeah and i talked about AGPL

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Ah

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:18 AM

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AGPL is a variant of GPL that includes the "even if you offer it to people to use not distribute"

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:18 AM

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no wonder I don't remember really seeing that used much

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:D

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:18 AM

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thats why i say, its great for an open source gaming community, cause it makes it impossible for people to go around the GPL by going into the server market patching

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yeah

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:18 AM

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most opensource software at least in the programming world seems to be using MIT or equivalent nowadays

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:18 AM

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its normally known as a kinda "fuck you all" license

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:19 AM

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seen a few WTFPL's too lol

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:19 AM

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yeah, GPL and AGPL have the purpose to specific protect the server for going into commercial usage without letting the community get something from it, most people know from themselves that this is really not that practical in many many many cases, so they go with apache or MIT

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Beer License is also famous

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;)

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:19 AM

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lol

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:20 AM

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its like if you ever meet the author you are enforced to buy him a beer

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I should make a Soda License

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since I don't drink beer

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:P

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:20 AM

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i also dont drink beer

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but dont tell anybody, as a german this is kinda embarrasing

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:21 AM

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yeah same in Finland, not that anyone really cares but people like to make jokes about it

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:22 AM

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in germany its extreme, cause like its hard to stay somewhere without a brewery in 20 km distance

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well ok 50 km distance

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:22 AM

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you guys can drink beer when you're 16 too right?

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or is it 15

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:23 AM

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PRACTICAL you can drink beer when your parents allow it and stay with you, even tho that is more culture as law, but so far no one was ever prosecuted for that ;)

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its like tradition that kids drink their first beer with daddy with 13-14 years

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:23 AM

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heh

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:23 AM

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it is also crucial part of joining the family of your spouse

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you need to DRINK into it

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:23 AM

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my dad was an alcoholic which may have affected my views on getting drunk for fun somewhat :p

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:24 AM

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well i just talk about the culture ;)

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most here are probably alcoholics 8-D

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i got at least one friend who is a denying alcoohlic

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:25 AM

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at least here they like to talk about how central europeans consume alcohol in more sensible fashion than here

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they might drink more casually but they don't just get super fucking wasted lol

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:25 AM

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oh there was a problem

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with the alcopops

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so they actually forbid them, and also forbid flatline drinking

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aehm flatrate

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:28 AM

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they recently allowed up to 5.5% alcohol to be sold in supermarkets here

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previously I think it was maybe 3% or so

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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we have high alcoholics here in the supermarket

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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naturally newspapers were writing about how it's going to ruin the economy and everyone is going to be drinking themselves to death

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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we are no pussies

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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...nothing of the kind happened, obviously.

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yeah everything over the 5.5% limit is only sold in the state owned alcohol stores

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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US?

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Finland

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:29 AM

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ah yes you said

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i just felt a flashback to my US time

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where they have specialized alcohol shops

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i was 2 month there

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Ah

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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50 miles

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we need to drive 50 miles

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to go in there

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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I don't think the state owns the alcohol stores there though

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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and it was only open till 18 oclock

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Maybe it depends on which state you are in I guess

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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yeah i wouldn't be surprised tho

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the shop was totally empty of people

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but had all sizes of bottles....

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there was some 100l vodka bottle

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like a fucking giant ass bottle man size

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i dont remember the price tho, but that thing was massive

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:31 AM

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the state alcohol stores here are usually in the same building with the supermarkets, so it's kind of like... why can't they just sell that in the supermarket, it's literally just a few steps away anyway

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:31 AM

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i was actually in a cinema when the dark knight shooting was

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we came out of the cinema and heard about it in the radio

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it was 30 miles away.... literally the next big cinema.... 1 cinema away from a mass shooting

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seeriously, no desire for that kind of experience again

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:32 AM

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jeez

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I was in Kansas City for a month, I recall it's actually legal to open carry there

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Never saw anyone with a gun there though despite that

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:33 AM

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yeah as far as i saw in philly

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they have their gun in the car

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but everybody has

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its unbelievable

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 4:34 AM

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open carry is decent, its concealed carry you gotta worry about 😛

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:34 AM

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yeah ;)

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remember that drunk at the gas station?

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that was funny

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drunk guy, with assault rifle standing next to a gas station waving around his gun

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cops couldn't do anything. he broke no law

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Good thing he didnt have his face covered I suppose

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:35 AM

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hrhrhrhr

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also like "Puh good that he didnt picked a school" ;)

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 4:36 AM

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probably illegal to carry open alcohol but legal to swing around an assault rifle

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:36 AM

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lol

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sounds about right

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:36 AM

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he probably was safe cause he didnt said "fuck"

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 4:37 AM

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tbh "drunk and waving a gun" sounds like they could easily have come up with some reason to take him away if they could be bothered

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 4:38 AM

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someone would think

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the problem is, trying to find the original story, you get more stories about ACTUAL shootings at gas stations

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dusky shuttle Feb 16, 2020, 5:43 AM

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📎 IMG_20200215_231222_294.jpg

bleak thicket Feb 16, 2020, 5:55 AM

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hahaha, seriously, after some time in opensource it just gets like natural

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there is code, i can fix it, i fix

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Best when it’s requested tbh. Sucks having to fix something otherwise

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Where did this influx of newbies come from?

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Who me?

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:10 AM

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No in this server in general, just noticed lots of new faces asking questions

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Weekend warriors

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They come and go

stiff crystal Feb 16, 2020, 6:11 AM

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requested to fix something sounds a lot like paid gig

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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What I meant is, psychologic backlash people hold against you for changing stuff cuz it performed bad can be strong

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Hell some people are just resistant against any form of change

stiff crystal Feb 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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pretty much yeah

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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But the old API was broken, we fixed it to make it better "but I was using that bug" lifts shield

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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People are human though

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Yea bandaids arent great for limb loss

stiff crystal Feb 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I recently got into pointless debate on Unity forums where someone claimed Unitys physics devs are lazy when he wanted them to implement something for their old "legacy" system, completely ignoring new system that actually does what he asked

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some people are never happy 😄

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Why do the work yourself if you can palm it off on a company

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Im not a fan of politics getting in the way of improving a codebase but it happens.

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:16 AM

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most of the time I just change shit

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if it breaks something then... well it just breaks it

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:17 AM

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I understand how cool operators and indexers and properties are, but just gimme dat int

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:17 AM

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will have to worry about it if it breaks lol

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:17 AM

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If we didnt break things we'd never improve on anything

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Most of the time just doing a search across our codebase for whatever I'm changing will find anything that might break

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but we have a feature in our system where users can insert arbitrary code, which sometimes depends on certain functionality we provide

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but thankfully most of those things we do are only live for a certain duration, so we don't need to worry about something older breaking

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:22 AM

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My favourite is the "oh we'll just mock this up" then that system becomes part of the core because of time constraints. Then when someone finally wants to fix it, oh sorry we cant too much legacy code relies on that system

stiff crystal Feb 16, 2020, 6:23 AM

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in case of Epic, you may also get "we can't accept this as we are internally reworking this system"

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and then radio silence for that system updates for next few years

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I've already rewritten our client library from scratch once because the old one was garbage, and rewritten our production tools like 90% because it also was garbage lol

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:24 AM

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lol that could mean it'll take them anywhere between 3 months to 6 years to fix

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:24 AM

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it's kinda getting to the point that the client library needs to be restructured because of new features which don't really work so well with the current design...

stiff crystal Feb 16, 2020, 6:24 AM

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for reals tho, sometimes it's just simpler to fix some NPE's and submit PR than try to write detailed bug report and wait that to get any traction

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:24 AM

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If you can keep the legacy packages around as fallbacks thats not a bad method but you certainly dont want to be maintaining both lots

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Im actually going to see if I can do some PRs for the editor this year, Ive had a feature request Ive wanted since very early on. Ive lost hope of Epic or anyone else doing it so Im just gonna do it myself now I know the codebase better

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UE4 is a monster, I wonder if Tim has even read half of this 😛

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Do wonder how much code he writes today

stiff crystal Feb 16, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I'd guess... zero

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Leisure code

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Christmas lights

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:30 AM

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From the way he talks it sounds like he does write code still, not sure if its for UE4 or not

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Its possible he does help on some of the more tecchy things like the Python integration

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Hss

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They do this thing where they remove bPrefix

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To look pythony

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:32 AM

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He does always ask about language stuff on his Twitter so maybe he works with the C++ API too, some of those improvements on that side of things

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:32 AM

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So python breaks if you have X and bX

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:33 AM

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I dont really use hungarian notation much

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:33 AM

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C++ is cool

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:33 AM

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but I do highly recommend not using question marks on the end of your bools even in BP

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I know it technically doesnt matter so much but its best not to push your luck 😛

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:33 AM

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oh I saw a funny thing a while back about Tim

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Lol I do wonder what that looks like in python

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:33 AM

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he allegedly made some kinda porn game in the 90s lol

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https://twitter.com/dosnostalgic/status/722617526216167424

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(removed the embed since I guess the image preview might be mildly NSFW)

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:35 AM

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lol thats funny

stiff crystal Feb 16, 2020, 6:36 AM

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That said, Tim Sweeney of Epic Games is on Twitter; drop him a tweet and maybe he'll confirm or deny!```

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:37 AM

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If that quote has its facts straight yeah seems it was probably someone else :D

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interesting coincidence though

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Maybe this is the prototype for what eventually became Jill of the Jungle lol

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 6:37 AM

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lol

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....Jizz Jackrabbit

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kek

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Epic was a publisher at the time so it does seem odd that Tim would work with another studio and publisher

rain steppe Feb 16, 2020, 7:20 AM

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I don't like steam

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 7:21 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/train-gif-10558439

Tenor

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 7:31 AM

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whole_load_of_nope

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Dunno if this is the place of this sort of thing so please let me know.

I've always thought that Game Dev is my path. I still do. But what I don't understand is my lack of motivation to really just work hard at it. Grind. Put the hours in. I'd just rather play a game, watch netflix, go on youtube. I dont know why because I don't see myself doing anything else but game dev. But here I am, 23, in SUCH a fortunate position where i am able to do freelance work here and there [archViz] and have my family support me yet i dont have the motivation to grow and learn and gain value, I do get moments where I get a surge of motivation. but that lasts 1-2 days. I've come to the conclusion I must be entitled/lazy/ungrateful? Not that this is an excuse. I need to change. I've tried reading and learning about how to make positive changes but again they dont seem to help. No matter what Im doing i want to be doing something else. if im learning how to program, then i want to learn how to level design. if im learning Level design, i want to learn how to create VFX in niagara... why

anybody have any idk tips in getting, consistently, into that zone of motivation?

sage ermine Feb 16, 2020, 8:39 AM

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do you smoke pot?

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:39 AM

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I do not

sage ermine Feb 16, 2020, 8:39 AM

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excellent

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:39 AM

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its not legal where i live

sage ermine Feb 16, 2020, 8:39 AM

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just sounded like a few people I've talked to

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who are all pot smokers

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:40 AM

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ahh i see

sage ermine Feb 16, 2020, 8:40 AM

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so... when your motivation bottoms out is it tiredness or boredom

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:41 AM

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its definitely not tiredness. my only positive habit is getting enough sleep 6-7.

i think its boredom? sometimes when im stuck on a challenge then i also think i give up? a lack of discipline to push through challenges that take longer than idk an hour ot solve

sage ermine Feb 16, 2020, 8:41 AM

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k

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there's no silver bullet of course

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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yeah

solid aurora Feb 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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I can tell you you like above 80% of people

sage ermine Feb 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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here's 4 little helpful words though 😉

solid aurora Feb 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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you are above the 80% of people

sage ermine Feb 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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"just a bit more"

solid aurora Feb 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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you see you have a problem ad admit it

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most people dont ;p

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:44 AM

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@sage ermine a bit more work? or push?
@solid aurora haha I get that and that makes me somewhat happy about it. but i've been in this state for probably a year. as time goes by i get older n older and im getting worried that i'll be one of those guys that always wanted to work in game dev but didnt do the necessary work to get there and regrets it

solid aurora Feb 16, 2020, 8:44 AM

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find something that truly motivates you

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i for example no longer give shit about games

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I'm here purerly for money and this is my last push to have retirment before I'm 35

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 8:46 AM

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What happens? Do you learn stuff then get bored kinda?

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:47 AM

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@solid aurora so are you just focused on idk monetization? or you mean games in every aspect. you just want to make money in some way or another
@signal citrus I think so? I seem to like getting surface knowledge of a lot of things but judging from my pattern, once i go 'deep' into a topic/subject it becomes less interesting? i assume because the amount that i was learning when i started was much greater . the longer i 'learn' the less i learn? is how i feel, i think

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Try doing something you don’t think you can do

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This won’t help career but will be satisfying

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:49 AM

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@signal citrus do you mean in the realm of Game Dev? or just in general, a new skill?

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Game dev, unless something else comes to mind

solid aurora Feb 16, 2020, 8:51 AM

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I just want to make money. I just know how to code (best) and various other stages of pipeline. As most things in life it is chain o lucky coincidences, that there is finally opurtunity to make money of game. I'm just tired of making games for someone else.

Either way at your current place I wouldn't really treat it as goal in it self. It won't help you and only lead to disappointment unlesss you can be really focused on one thing.

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 8:51 AM

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You might just be in a rut where your picking up things in repetition but not really utilizing them in a bigger picture and it’s dragging on you

solid aurora Feb 16, 2020, 8:51 AM

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What you really need is clear SMALL GOAL

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or it might be big, but must be clearly defined to not lost track of it

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I started from making RPG beucase well, nobody told me it's bad idea

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but in the end it got me a job ;p

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@solid aurora ah I see. haha at this stage I just want to make games for someone else. Just gaining experience in any way would be awesome. thats cool! i need to have that fire to where i can sit and enjoy my projects, focus on the art of my craft not whether it will make money.
@signal citrus yeh true I think its my lack of commitment and there is no quick fix. I just need to idk train my self-discipline.

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Build up a world with things in it, or stuff to do and it becomes less about keeping your interest and more about the world your making to share with the player. Tech let’s you give a better or more fluid experience.

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Feeling interest loss is a tough thing but might mean you just are getting overloaded with thinking of ways to apply knowledge

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Speaking for myself anyways there

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Hmmm thats actually a really good point. I agree. I think sometimes i focus so much on getting 'good' at something that I lose the fun in it...but the only reason i feel this way is because i really want to get in the industry so when i begin learning something i commit hard and want it badly. but yeh it dies out....

I think i'll do that.. focus on creating a world/atmosphere of a world [i want to focus on Level design as I seem to keep leaning that way]. focus on enjoying my journey of learning [ofc still working hard] instead of focusing on the destination of being good at it? if that makes sense

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 9:06 AM

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You’ll appreciate all the time you’ve spent understanding things I think

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 9:07 AM

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yeah will do!

Thanks for the advice @signal citrus @solid aurora @sage ermine . Always appreciate how helpful and encouraging this discord is. really. 💙

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 9:22 AM

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that's good advice

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I'm currently trying to put stuff into my game's world so there'd be something in there that I can then start to expand from

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but goddamnit why do I need to make 3D models for that

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lol

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It would be a lot easier if I was making a generic open world survival game because then I could just stick a bunch of marketplace assets in there and call it a day but sadly no

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:D

tulip orbit Feb 16, 2020, 9:28 AM

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I'm in the same boat, trying to populate my game level so its not an empty shell

foggy path Feb 16, 2020, 9:36 AM

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I probably should just google pictures of stuff other people have done and just model something similar

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I mean obviously not one to one but just take some ideas

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because it's taking me so freaking long to do it :p

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 9:37 AM

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I was happy being just level designer back in the time, now can't make proper levels :(

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Small achievable goals help with motivation, if your goals are too large you'll lose motivation easy when you realise it'll take you so long to reach them

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If you can measure your progress each day, in some way then you know youre getting there. Another good thing to do is go back and look at what you were doing when you started and compare to now

ancient hornet Feb 16, 2020, 10:08 AM

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if you want to keep the motivation at the best, I think I'd try making sure you always have short, medium and long term goals running

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long term is basically "finishing the project" though 🙂

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 10:17 AM

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@median wraith wat happened? you just stop LDesigning and you slowly lost the skill to?
@pearl elk @ancient hornet thats actually a very good idea! manageable/achievable daily goals

ancient hornet Feb 16, 2020, 10:17 AM

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if your medium goals are too far away, it probably means they are long term goals and you need new medium goals inbetween

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Had to stop it in order to do the rest of things, level design needs time a time that i can't spend :/

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at least the proper one

stiff oxide Feb 16, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Ah i see . Yeah i'll have to keep that in mind when i start

ancient hornet Feb 16, 2020, 10:21 AM

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this is basically how Sid Meyer describes the way Civilization manages to keep us awake for "just one more turn" 😄

manic shadow Feb 16, 2020, 11:22 AM

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did femfx get taken down?

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I can't find it on github

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 11:25 AM

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https://github.com/GPUOpen-Effects/FEMFX

GitHub

GPUOpen-Effects/FEMFX

Contribute to GPUOpen-Effects/FEMFX development by creating an account on GitHub.

manic shadow Feb 16, 2020, 11:27 AM

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thanks

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 12:56 PM

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@signal citrus pc is slow af. thoughts?

tulip orbit Feb 16, 2020, 12:59 PM

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feed it some coffee

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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We drop he the same question xDD

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Didn't you had a super computer?

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I do, nearly same as pat

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but for some reason its slow af atm

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i blame win10 though

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<_< windows defender is doing a scan thats prolly why

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 1:08 PM

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anyone hre

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umm does anyone know how to multiply speed but without changing from negative to positive or vice versa?

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no wait it must be something else..

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Yeah idk whats going on my computer

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but while browsing between folders randomly have micro freezes and loads of random crap

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idk if is windows or something wrong with the CPU I would bet

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:18 PM

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always blame windows

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 1:19 PM

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I uploaded my crap to drive just in case

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Probably Windows

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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rebooted and it runs fine

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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It really needs to piss off with page files

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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chrome takes up 1gb for 1 tab. 1 tab!

rare sparrow Feb 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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My favorite is when at random times Windows Defender sends you a notification saying WE DID A SCAN AND FOUND NOTHING WRONG WE THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW RIGHT THIS INSTANT

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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OH YOU HELD SHIFt? HERE IS A BEEPING SOUND AND WE MINIIZE WHATEVER THE BLEEP YOU WHERE DOING WARNIGN!

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grgrr

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 1:21 PM

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I like the popups telling you that a popup was blocked

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 1:22 PM

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hey don't talk shit about chrome

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🤖

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:22 PM

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chrome is shit :p

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 1:22 PM

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sieeeeeeeet

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Chrome crashes randomly sometimes when I close a tab with YouTube on it

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As much as Id like to blame MS for that one I cant in good conscience

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:23 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/7d3a12dbfbdc5224b8da43a47c89d45f.png I have 1 ffin tab open

lost bison Feb 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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coxNom that delicious ram - chrome probably

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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but the trackers must run

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more fun on my phone as they record every word

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 1:24 PM

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just a few 😛

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 1:25 PM

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lol

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I do usually have heaps of tabs open though, acouple of times Ive been like wtf RAM full what is UE4 doing... WTF its Chrome

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Chrome is doing GI - Global Investigation

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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xd

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ray traced

soft night Feb 16, 2020, 1:32 PM

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chromium is doing it thing

fluid bloom Feb 16, 2020, 1:44 PM

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honestly it's pretty good that chrome isolates its things into multiple processes

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because in general the OS disallows process A from reading the memory of process B

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 2:00 PM

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pretty much had to leave chrome behind. looking like the whole search engine is next. anyone have a good replacement?

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 2:04 PM

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https://www.ecosia.org/

Ecosia - the search engine that plants trees

Ecosia uses the ad revenue from your searches to plant trees where they are needed the most. By searching with Ecosia, you’re not only reforesting our planet, but you’re also empowering the communities around our planting projects to build a better future for themselves. Give ...

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Ecosia uses bing, which never gives me the ue4-related search results that are satisfactory :p

soft night Feb 16, 2020, 2:14 PM

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luos perhaps we need to change that

mossy nexus Feb 16, 2020, 2:19 PM

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I'm highly suspicious of anything that says they are planting trees. Usually all that means is they end up sponsoring an organisation that was already going to plant them.

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I thought Epics search was powered by Bing

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I was about update my web to some more cool but every decent developer I see have a simple web, and every mediocre dev have an awesome web

cursive crypt Feb 16, 2020, 2:45 PM

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... and best ones, have no web.

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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i dont know who had the idea that if i seach for a guitar one day, all my subsequent searches about anything else in the world should be guitar related or an attempt to defraud me.

tulip orbit Feb 16, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Hey @zinc matrix , I heard you like guitars! Here's more guitars!

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 2:50 PM

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heres 21 guitars that prevent tooth decay

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@cursive crypt which ones ?

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only one comes to my mind that just have the game page

cursive crypt Feb 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Can't come up with somebody other than me.

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Good luck 👍

floral mist Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Found this dancing comment while I was looking around Paragon assets pretty funny :D
https://gyazo.com/d0c1ace688e78881e3509a2092de7b7e

Gyazo

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median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 3:06 PM

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isn't that a plugin ?

cursive crypt Feb 16, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@median wraith But joke aside, I only know of one good programmer and he is really living his family life and does not care about anything of pop culture (web, communities, etc.). And he is good. He did stuff from voice systems, to city gps controls, to nuclear plant management.

floral mist Feb 16, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Yeah added Shinbi to a project where I had a comments plugin and apparently it goofed a bit.

verbal junco Feb 16, 2020, 3:12 PM

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this should be plastered all over this discord

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median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 3:32 PM

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@cursive crypt welp I didn't said it as a joke, comparing small devs or med ones, the bigger amount that have paid templates or templates they took from somewhere are a representation of their final products that can't highlight over the rest

pearl elk Feb 16, 2020, 3:33 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMl_PG_V0Zo

YouTube

Raycevick

Games Should Leave You Wanting More

Written, Voiced, and Edited by Lucas Raycevick
Support the Channel at: https://www.patreon.com/raycevick or http://paypal.me/LucasRaycevick
Thumbnail by Jack Coster: https://twitter.com/stoofer97
Tweet Me @Raycevick

Music List (In-Order)
Mick Gordon - Wall Climb
Tom Salta -...

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just gonna leave this here

tulip orbit Feb 16, 2020, 3:37 PM

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trips over it

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 3:41 PM

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https://twitter.com/Jordan_Coombe/status/1228025633726435332 awwwww

Jordan Coombe (@Jordan_Coombe)

If you’re having a bad day, here’s a Hedgehog on a camping trip.

Retweets

57060

Likes

162546

hazy delta Feb 16, 2020, 3:52 PM

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that sonic remake looks really good, damn

deep glen Feb 16, 2020, 3:57 PM

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i wish hehe

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Get it luos?

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Anti virus will do it for sure

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 4:14 PM

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yeah the anti virus does these but this don't looks normal at all

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 4:16 PM

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How long was it on before hand @deep glen ?

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My 2080 ti acts weird

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If I full screen YouTube one the 240hz it’ll do weird things

fluid bloom Feb 16, 2020, 4:25 PM

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https://youtu.be/P7umhCkklOU

YouTube

Vocal Synthesis

Martin Luther King reads the Navy Seals Copypasta (Speech Synthesis)

The voice in this video was entirely computer-generated using a text-to-speech model trained on the speech patterns of Martin Luther King. For more information, see: https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/12/tacotron-2-generating-human-like-speech.html

▶ Play video

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@signal citrus bigger res of 1080p videos act different from lower ones like freezes and crap

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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hm?

fathom wadi Feb 16, 2020, 5:14 PM

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30 years old that tech now. Imagine what they could do with it.

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https://www.itproportal.com/2015/10/09/how-cyber-criminals-are-embracing-voice-morphing/

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I remember reading about it in 2006. Colin Powell having his voice synthed to say "I am being treated well by my captors". Everyone was like "run to the hills, nobody is safe!". Now we do deepfakes like it's nothing.

mossy nexus Feb 16, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Remember Adobe showcased something they had, where it would take almost any length of sample and do a not bad impression of the voice. The longer the same the better obviously, but it was ridiculous how little was actually needed

fathom wadi Feb 16, 2020, 5:48 PM

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there are very few phonetic vocal changes in language, with some additions for non-western based languages. It's surprising really. And once you can identify and sample intination and afflection as digital data, you can clone it any way you like. What is worse is, DNA is also like this. So one day, a totalitarian government could have all this to fit you up with a crime if you step out of line, but also drones with weapons ranging from micro-nuke to sub-sonic to "keep the peace" with. All whilst you are tracked in a microwave based radar network being used as the phone/internet connection. Yay future.

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Don't worry though, it's not all bad. The totalitarian governments will need to use entertainment to subdue the masses. That's where we come in. Cmon folks, let's shape society according to the overlord's plan (RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf) 😉

fluid bloom Feb 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@fathom wadi I doubt it's the same tech (as 30 years ago)

fathom wadi Feb 16, 2020, 6:03 PM

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yeah its gonna be way better by now

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and think of the AI possibilities. It could be used for good too though. Like at some point putting the player in the game as an actor

fluid bloom Feb 16, 2020, 6:05 PM

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there are already trained ai systems that detect deepfaked videos

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there will most likely be same kind of things for synthetic speech

fathom wadi Feb 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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yeah makes sense

fluid bloom Feb 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I hope 😄

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or else we'll soon have to cryptographically sign every single video and speech we record

fathom wadi Feb 16, 2020, 6:06 PM

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im sure if anything, the military wing who created their version would have also been working on the detection. Like the old days of virus coding. Always write the fix alongside the payload

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 7:20 PM

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<@&213101288538374145> , also in multiple channels

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they just disappeared suddenly

bronze axle Feb 16, 2020, 7:21 PM

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What was it?

floral rose Feb 16, 2020, 7:22 PM

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@bronze axle how do i post msges in lfg channels?

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its says i cant post msges there

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 7:22 PM

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people learning the rules i suppose lol

bronze axle Feb 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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@floral rose I assume you mean the job board channels #looking-for-talent and #looking-for-work?

floral rose Feb 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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yeah

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i can post it there

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my msg

bronze axle Feb 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Instructions are pinned to each channel.

floral rose Feb 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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?wdym

bronze axle Feb 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Check the pinned messages. The instructions are posted there.

floral rose Feb 16, 2020, 7:24 PM

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in which channel?

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are the instructions

bronze axle Feb 16, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Click the 📌 icon in the channel you want to post in. The instructions are there.

signal citrus Feb 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/187217643009212416/375022930469584906/375058342940508160

zinc matrix Feb 16, 2020, 8:39 PM

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@signal citrus what happened

median wraith Feb 16, 2020, 8:56 PM

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First time I see a presskit in google drive

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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<@&213101288538374145> is this fine here?

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doesn't really contribute anything to all those channels (list went on)

tall plume Feb 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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its a bit spammy

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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bit

tall plume Feb 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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"bit"

bronze axle Feb 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Just a bit.

spare glade Feb 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Enough to get an infraction.

bronze axle Feb 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/tiny-little-bit-gif-5676595

Tenor

tiny

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spare glade Feb 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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@devout canyon Read the #old-rules thanks.

fathom wadi Feb 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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thats a suspect gif when you have a dirty mind like myself. Because to me, the Invisible Man just got the happy ending he deserved 😉

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https://media.giphy.com/media/Y0nTS6Fgix7XVYW9YK/giphy.gif

Giphy

late night Feb 17, 2020, 1:58 AM

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allarwat

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 3:18 AM

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I hate customer service people... Early access is important for community feedback. The game is not in a final state and getting opinions on shaping the game will be very beneficial for improving this game This description for early access was rejected yet Right now this game is already really fun to play and has dozens of hours of content. Early Access allows us to gather important feedback to make the game even better and We are on pretty early stage of development of our game. So we want to build the game with the help of our audience and community feedback: hear different opinions and implement suggestions. are approved on live product listings for the same question...

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Really fun to play is kinda subjective, would avoid self praising like that

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if someone has to say that aloud, it usually means the game isn't fun

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 3:37 AM

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That's kind of the point. The second two were approved on other games

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the top one is mine.

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I half feel like I should call them dumbasses for approving the second two but claiming mine isn't good enough.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 3:38 AM

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steam?

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did they tell why it was rejected?

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Yes

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"This answer should give details about your goals. Make sure you are ready for the commitment of continuing to work on your product, receive feedback, and see your project through to completion."

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but my answer no more or less matches that then those two that were approved do

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 3:41 AM

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pretty sure they want to see more effort on the description in general

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just because someone got free pass with their descriptions doesn't make they should be taken as examples

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 3:42 AM

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yeah, I just find interesting that they rejected mine, when they approved those. They also rejected my "how long " description because I didn't include a timeline, yet they repeatedly say "don't make promises or give specifics". It's a little bit of mixed messages.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 3:42 AM

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your description sounds like generic description what early access is about

foggy path Feb 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Seems it would be a good idea to say what you want to get... like I'm sure there are specific parts of the game you want to get feedback on, and things like that

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I probably wouldn't call them dumbasses tho, that's most likely not gonna help you lol

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You probably could ask them about the others but just phrase it in a polite way :p

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Most likely you'll get some response along the lines of "these were approved before, we're trying to improve the descriptions" though

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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yeah, I'd focus on just taking the feedback and improving on it

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the one they rejected was super generic

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didn't tell anything new at all

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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And the others weren't?

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We are on pretty early stage of development of our game. So we want to build the game with the help of our audience and community feedback: hear different opinions and implement suggestions. that's pretty damn generic.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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doesn't make their point invalid

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Not necessarily invalid, but a trivial thing to reject on.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:16 AM

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just because they are now more strict on it doesn't mean they always were

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also shouldn't be an issue, better your store page, more likely you are getting sales

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:17 AM

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the description came from a game that was released 10 days ago 😉

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:17 AM

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they just don't want people going for early access to just forget your game there

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it could also just be up to the individual reviewing it

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but none of the descriptions were great

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:20 AM

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This game literally has every question blank https://store.steampowered.com/app/1175320/_/

Steam

黑暗之岛

This is a legend of a hero's adventure on the dark island.

Price

$14.99

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I've seen other chinese games with the questions filled out in chinese, but never one that's empty like this.

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“Collecting feedbacks from gamers then keeping updating to make a fully complished version.” That was approved.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I don't get it

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instead of focusing on making your own product page better you just look at worse examples?

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you shouldn't try to go where the bar is lowest

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but I guess different things make people happy 🙂

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:28 AM

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If I'm going to submit an answer that they'll accept, I should look at what they've approved to see what they want. If I could find dozens of examples crappier than my answer, it makes me question their process.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:29 AM

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but why not just improve on yours? yours was super generic and didn't mention anything about your product specifically

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I'm still 100% on their side here 😄

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I feel people should put more effort on their store pages

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:30 AM

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That's fine, but if you don't hold everyone to the same standard, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:31 AM

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life isn't always fair 🙂 if there's a human going through them you might get different treatment than the other guy, on everything really

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that being said, it still shouldn't be about who can set the bar lowest and still pass :p

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:32 AM

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The reasons for rejection from my point of view are trivial. They complained that I didn't put a timeline in the how long section when they also told us not to be specific and they complain about my answer for that question when there are arguably worse answers live on the store.

stiff crystal Feb 17, 2020, 4:33 AM

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yeah, but you are not really looking to address their feedback here, are you? you are just trying to give them examples of other cases that shouldn't have passed

static cosmos Feb 17, 2020, 4:34 AM

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They set the bar by approving those other answers. if you pick and choose enforcement of guidelines, it doesn't exactly make the developers comfortable or trust your process does it?

foggy path Feb 17, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Stop trying to game their system and just do what they ask