info, contact, support, etc
#lounge
median wraith
I just got one so have to choose between contact and support ๐ค
probably contact
tidal ivy
alpine fern
a good one is spam@company.com
static cosmos
@alpine fern That may have been it. I think it was OCR'd from a 150 year old census or something like that. On the plus side, I have like 7000 male names, 15000 family names and around 10000 female names in my random generator. They shouldn't ever be getting units with the same name.
alpine fern
well you could prevent doubles
static cosmos
Yes, I could throw in a check to make sure the name hasn't been used on an existing unit.
alpine fern
I'd just hash the string of first and last name and put it in a TSet
player will never see the same name twice in one play session
median wraith
well then you combine each family name with each male name and then with each female name
and from the result array choose random
no one repeats
tidal ivy
that sounds like an awful waste of time
static cosmos
Yeah, I random a gender first, then random either a male or female name, then random the family name and put them together to make a full name.
alpine fern
I mean it takes like 3 minutes to make this
median wraith
yeah that way won't work if you want unique ones
static cosmos
@alpine fern That was a good idea and fast. I added a string set for the names and put it in the save game function as the units are persistent. it'll add each name and check for it. If the name has been used, it'll generate a new one
foggy path
Rick is an alternate dimension Doc Brown ๐ค
bleak thicket
Really? You really do not realize MORTY..... MARTY ?........
like..... this is not a hidden reference, that is like the freaking punchline of the complete show
bleak thicket
you really didnt saw it?
bleak thicket
yeah, its like the total root of the idea
deep glen
Roland's first animation somewhat related to rick and morty was basically an ffed up back to the future
foggy path
heh
deep glen
foggy path
lol yeah I guess he couldn't get away with that direct "ripoff"
bleak thicket
I think they would have gotten away with a direct "this is doc brown going crazy with marty" version ;)
hazy delta
I still can't believe that both of them have the same voice actor
foggy path
I wonder if when recording he just switches between the voices if they're having a conversation, or if he records one character first and then the other
hazy delta
lol
bleak thicket
he actually drinks vodka shots before and while
foggy path
that seems... unhealthy lol
hazy delta
but does he actually do the burping mid-sentence? that's the most impressive bit for me
bleak thicket
i dont actually know ;) but it makes sense if he is drinking parallel
hazy delta
also kinda funny how morty was the one that's constantly drooling in the original concept
hazy delta
maybe it's not planned and it's just him doing the burps mid sentence naturally
bleak thicket
they just can keep them in the audio and add some extra frames to cover it
hazy delta
well if that's the case then it's some decent sound editing, because the way he cuts in and out of the burp sounds very natural ๐
bleak thicket
yeah but live he is not the perfect rick cause he is not drunk ;-)
rigid shoal
@tidal ivy Just showing you this because I remember you mentioned the "Killdozer"
https://i.redd.it/obvpqb3qi5c41.jpg
I thought it was a suicidal maniac that killed people, turns out, the story is not so. *nvm, he was a suicidal maniac and I fell victim to propaganda.
foggy path
The story is more complicated than seems at a glance... but the claim he purposefully avoided killing anyone seems a bit silly
tldr there is some evidence suggesting he may have tried to attack cops, and the buildings he ran thru were occupied
tidal ivy
'some evidence' - I mean the whole thing is on video
foggy path
Yeah I mean I haven't watched the video and the article I linked doesn't really say that it's visible on the video that he tried to kill cops so can't really comment on the specifics :)
rigid shoal
Oh, yeah, guess I should have read the comments.
plucky pagoda
When a parental control app doesn't require the parent's pin to open a support ticket:
deep glen
lol
ancient hornet
how would you contact support when you lose the pin then? ๐
plucky pagoda
Pin lockout prompt for reset
deep glen
me: lets try Doom for a minute
for some reason it full-screens itself on the wrong monitor, tries to rescale monitor to 1080p, and crashes.
<_<
clean fricking install
plucky pagoda
It's part of the authentic experience. Staying true to its roots.
deep glen
maaaany more people seem to have the issue
inland zephyr
Quick question - what channel would you guys recommend I ask a question about controller display? (as in displaying press A vs square)
plucky pagoda
I'd think c++. I'm not sure if BP lets you get controller type or not but c++ guys are more likely to know which functions to use anyway. I don't recall off the top of my head how to do it.
inland zephyr
Sweet. Thanks!
plucky pagoda
then again, I'm wrong a lot.
hazy delta
well this question came up a while ago in #blueprint and when I checked I couldn't find a way to get the controller type in blueprints
there's a node with that name, but that's only for mobile devices
so yeah should be a C++ thing if it's possible
foggy path
I remember playing some game on PS3 or PS4 which actually showed you the button position in addition to just the button
as in, if it was the button that was on the right side of the button group, it would show a little bit of the middle of the group, so you could immediately see at a glance where it was in relation to the other buttons
as someone who plays console games only on rare occasions that was really helpful :D
like you tell me to press triangle and I have to stop and look at the controller..
hazy delta
haha as someone who's played a lot of playstation games I had a lot of trouble adjusting to the default xbox display that most PC games have
foggy path
I have a xbox360 controller that I use on occasion for games that play better on a controller but I still don't remember which button is which :P
hazy delta
when I visited a friend during christmas and he showed off his new XBox elite controller he told me the button prompts in playstation terms when he explained the controls of the game we were playing ๐
I get them together with a bit of thinking, but the playstation button layout is pretty much second nature to me
foggy path
"press the Kojima button to shoot"? ๐ค
hazy delta
exactly
foggy path
lol
hazy delta
and by that you mean all buttons at once
because that's what you did in MGS2
can't play the game without pressing at least 3 buttons at any given time
foggy path
there's a couple of arcade games that do a special move when you press all the buttons at the same time
easy on an arcade stick tho cos you can just slam your whole hand at the face of the controller lol
median wraith
crunch time tweets intensifies over this month
gleaming hill
They failed my MP asset because docs link doesn't work, it works ๐ฆ
mossy nexus
Maybe it only works for you? Permissions etc.
signal citrus
@late night I'm getting some sleep testing done too soon. Tips?
unborn lotus
found this old book guys
late night
@signal citrus go in sleepy
Not too sleepy
But definitely donโt take a nap before you go in
signal citrus
Aye cool, why not too sleepy?
alpine fern
take two sleeping pills before so you get good test results
signal citrus
well, its more for breathing
for me, but... may as well work out sleep habits too yeah.
foggy path
Did they not give you instructions from the doc?
Sleeping pills are a big nono from what I understand for sleep studies even if it's for breathing :P
signal citrus
When i start falling asleep i get these sharp awakening pains in chest.
alpine fern
wtf
signal citrus
Doctor thinks its apnea or whatever, but yeah I've not set up a time yet. I have to talk to insurance still and then she'll get me a recommendation
yeah, doctor made it sound normal somehow so thats a thing haha. "It's just your body trying to tell you to breath more" -- okay haha
gleaming hill
Thats BS, obstructive sleep apnea is choking on your tongue, unless its central sleep apnea then its still incorrect but much worse
signal citrus
she said it could be that too yeah, could be obstruction based. But its right when i start nodding off
signal citrus
sleep is welcome haha, it takes too much robo to fall asleep
thick sundial
i wish i can get sleep with out waking up with dry mouth and a sore throat
signal citrus
cigarettes?
thick sundial
snoring
signal citrus
ouch
thick sundial
i snore no matter what position
its not as bad if i sleep parsley siting up but not all the way up.
signal citrus
hm yeah i've tried pyramid pillow myself hah
Its hard to fall asleep on such incline
thick sundial
but i also have a hard time falling asleep because of my anxiety attacks i get.
thick sundial
i do it just for fun my problem is just normal life stuff lol.
signal citrus
haha aye yeah.
thick sundial
at the moment im trying to make a glass window but is more a pain the but but then i was thinking
cant get it to break the way i want it to.
signal citrus
func_shatterglass is my favorite glass
probably the worst glass break sound effect but w/e kachunk kachunk
thick sundial
oh that's for source 2
signal citrus
yeah
alpine fern
I like how it has a frame drop when all the shards land after shatter..
signal citrus
most glass doesn't break like this anymore too but idk. its a cool effect
thick sundial
this is what my glass dus
signal citrus
very nice
thick sundial
not really i just want it to slowly break like what that video did
thick sundial
it looks nice for a fully broke window but i need it break slowly so as you shoot it makes holes intill it hits a set damage number
signal citrus
https://youtu.be/ztGj_4Uoiy0?t=29 time splitters (not as nice as source 2 but gamecube shrug)
idk what you'd use to do procedural meshing like that really
thick sundial
no idea i am useing a destructible mesh
proper fjord
I just started out with blender and decided to create a bust character model
8hrs later...
When i close my eyes all i see are vertices....
Help.
signal citrus
blender is cool
thick sundial
wish i was any good at blender lol
proper fjord
Oh trust me im not either, its my first time creating a 3D character model and my 2nd time entering the realm of 3D modelling in general @thick sundial
foggy path
That's pretty good then
signal citrus
lol I ordered/renewed vax
zinc matrix
@proper fjord this is what I see =>
https://tenor.com/view/jay-karl-peekaboo-alien-gif-10162127
signal citrus
order confirmation -> spam folder
thick sundial
i cant even make a small door lol @proper fjord
proper fjord
Thats good cause i started with a box @foggy path 
terse kelp
What im trying to do is edit the original line i wrote before every 500 ms, it works perfectly untill i add a new line (using \n) does anyone know how i can fix it?
oh isee why \r moves it to the first line only editing the firs portion, does anyone know how i can edit like just the 1? (dont rrl care for the other part)
median wraith
@signal citrus that glass is exact to the mw2 one and newers
But there break in parts better
stiff crystal
didn't know about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcsUaHyvW6g
not really unity tip but more of visual studio
no idea where that would be useful tho
deep glen
When something on the ue4 marketplace looks better than shenmue 3 :p
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/kyoto-alley?lang=en-US
zinc matrix
I wanna make a game but I'm having second thoughts that the idea is crappy. I'm making models for the game while I decide whether to go through with it but I'm thinking maybe I should try and sell the models if people would buy.
north torrent
How big is the idea?
If it isn't huge and you could complete the project in a reasonable amount of time, why not just make it?
If you want to make an MMORPG then yes, go sell the models and never make a game.
summer carbon
pearl elk
woohoo finally made it to the bottom of facebook
pearl elk
theres a whole load of dead Karols down here
north torrent
Did you see my hopes and dreams down there as well?
pearl elk
I think they might have been there but someone stole them
north torrent
I knew I misplaced them somewhere. Haven't been able to find them.
pearl elk
theres quite a few unfinished MMOs down here too
north torrent
Those aren't mine.
pearl elk
hey look... its Ed Sheerans hiphop career
stiff crystal
without reading why,I'd guess it wasn't worth maintaining that niche platforms
maybe better drop those now, before they go full F2P
stiff crystal
hmmmm
pearl elk
hasnt every year since 1976 been the year of linux desktop?
stiff crystal
We want Rocket League to be the best experience possible for all our players. This includes adapting to use new technologies. This has made it more difficult to support macOS and Linux (SteamOS). Because of this, we will have a final patch for these versions in early March.
oh snap
EGS doesn't run on linux and macos?
what other possible new technology they have?
pearl elk
Bet ya its gearing for a mobile launch
north torrent
Steam is the devil.
pearl elk
I mean Valve had these Steam Machines n whatnot but it was all too pricey for your average Joe who just laid out $1000 in monthly payments on a phone thats better than their PS3
north torrent
Valve is the single worst thing to happen to gaming in the history of... well... gaming...
pearl elk
Stadia was a thing too apparently ๐
north torrent
I'm pretty sure Vampy's opinion was never a thing though.
pearl elk
GFC was a glorious time for Aussie gamers, we got US prices
north torrent
When the golden age of Australian gaming is the one time they got US pricing... that is actually kind of sad...
Not as sad as being Mr. Vampy... but still sad.
pearl elk
man I see enough idiots dancing on tiktok
vocal vapor
All Valve really did was make some games, then make a platform that's okay? Then stopped making games for a bit etc.
manic shadow
@pearl elk tiktok is cancer
pearl elk
we are so woke we decided a platform made specifically for cheerleaders was going to aid in diversity ๐
manic shadow
And megascans
vocal vapor
I don't hate EGS or Steam but I don't really like em either.
pearl elk
Valve cemented DRM
north torrent
Megascans is the only thing on Earth better than socialism...
Megascans literally saved my life once.
manic shadow
@north torrent well said
vocal vapor
I mean, a lot of games on Steam are actually DRM free.
pearl elk
yeah cuz Valve opts out of its own DRM right
vocal vapor
Actually yeah I can think of some worse things for gaming, like Securom or Starforce.
north torrent
Steam still takes 30% of your earnings and gives you a turd in exchange.
pearl elk
I mean why buy DRM free on Steam when I can buy proper DRM free elsewhere
vocal vapor
Or those other invasive DRM methods.
manic shadow
You could always price your games accordingly @north torrent
pearl elk
I could always not sell on Steam ๐
stiff crystal
oh this trolling again
manic shadow
Yeah true that
stiff crystal
like, steam does charge much, but it's not like the service itself isn't decent
none of the competitors do even half what steam does
pearl elk
Steam is really not the biggest distribution platform, get your head out of your arse
stiff crystal
ignoring that is just naive
vocal vapor
It's one of the bigger ones in the western game industry.
stiff crystal
I'm already home ๐ค
north torrent
The services Steam offers are total shit... What good is the ability to review games if there is nothing in between recomend or hate? If you can't leave a neutral review, then the whole system isn't worth shit.
stiff crystal
you can install google play on android emulator on pc
north torrent
The whole system is worth less that Mr. Vampy's brain, which is literally the smallest human brain in existance.,
stiff crystal
steam's family streaming is kinda annoying
they got family sharing
but you can't stream through family sharing
vocal vapor
IDK I don't mind more competition in the game market but I'll probably still buy via Steam most of the time.
I just kinda wish that most game launchers weren't as inefficient as an electron app.
pearl elk
Ive almost completely stopped buying on Steam
manic shadow
Steam has great regional pricing
stiff crystal
if you want to stream your gameplay at home from computer to another using steam, both computers need to be logged in to same account
that's really stupid design
pearl elk
infact I was off Steam for almost a month without realising it cuz theres so many other platforms I have games on now
stiff crystal
so, you can just use moonlight etc and let it do that without similar nonsense
north torrent
I have only bought one game on Steam since the release of Epic Games Store.
Since that time, Ubisoft's store is actually the biggest winner of my personal money.
stiff crystal
I've only once bought a game from EGS since release of EGS
stiff crystal
I didn't have HDMI switch and didn't want to swap cables for projector ๐
vocal vapor
I haven't actually bought anything from EGS.
north torrent
I have spent at least 10x as much money on Epic Games Store as Steam... though that isn't a large amount of money on either...
stiff crystal
projector itself has multiple inputs but I don't want to run that many wires there
pearl elk
cuz entertainment isnt competing with other entertainment
stiff crystal
but yeah, that video compression was horrible
pearl elk
I love how people segment out entertainment markets to feel superior
north torrent
Origins and Ubisoft, Uplay have had a lot more than either of the two,
vocal vapor
EGS lacks a lot of the Quality of life stuff that Steam has for someone who lives in New Zealand, like me.
stiff crystal
@north torrent so, you've spend zero on both?
vocal vapor
Lacks regional pricing for the NZD which Steam has had since like 2013.
stiff crystal
with the hate toward steam, it doesn't sound like you've bought anything there
vocal vapor
Not a deal breaker but I just kinda prefer having it.
pearl elk
games win BAFTAs so its like duh, same market
stiff crystal
nah, that would be reasonable
north torrent
Uplay followed by Origins, followed by Rockstar's new platform, followed by Epic Games Store, followed by Twitch, followed by Steam in last place with $40 usd.
That's my yearly game budget.
pearl elk
feel free to look at my Steam profile ๐
its still public, despite Valves best shot to hide it
stiff crystal
mine is hidden :p
vocal vapor
I'll probably be getting more things on Bethesda net because I still buy a lot of games of their's physically.
stiff crystal
don't want people trying to hack it
vocal vapor
Mostly because it's cheaper to buy physical PC games of their's.
pearl elk
I dont play dodgy asian porn on my Steam so I dont care like most ๐ฎ
stiff crystal
lol
well, who am I fooling
nobody hacks steam accounts
epic accounts however....
vocal vapor
Doom Eternal is $100 NZD physically and $120 digitally.
Kinda having to live with the reality that game prices are going up here.
north torrent
I doubt Mr. Vampy could hack anything short of a MySpace account from 2003.
north torrent
Hacking the planet seems like a pretty tall task from someone who can't even capitalize his own name...
north torrent
Or do you?
pearl elk
I think Epic poaching KS is pretty scummy but more people act like Valve never did anything wrong when theyve made just as many mistakes. I just like EGS cuz its where Steam used to be before Greenlight
stiff crystal
or next year
north torrent
Steam is hell.
stiff crystal
or year after that
vocal vapor
Yeah um one thing I've learnt is whenever a platform seems like a new haven for indies it isn't.
Or isn't for long.
stiff crystal
remember how fortnite's regular mode was going to go free "next year"
north torrent
People will always fuck you over, Mr. Hatsu, that is what it means to be alive.
vocal vapor
Pretty much.
north torrent
I think people should just stop making new movies and games and TV shows for 5 years.
stiff crystal
next week we'll get farming simulator 19 for free
north torrent
Go get a real job and stop flooding the market with more stuff we don't need.
pearl elk
Im a fan of Devolver and CDPR, some how they manage to ride that line just fine
stiff crystal
I think I remember only ever playing one devolver published game
pearl elk
you dont have to be a complete weaslegrass dipweed to make money
pearl elk
you didnt play Shadow Warrior or Hard Reset?
north torrent
Get a real job and stop trying to make money off selling games in a market that already had 10x more games than it needs.
pearl elk
lol yeah Ruiner was pretty brutal, much tougher than I expected
vocal vapor
Shadow Warrior 2013 was okay, Shadow Warrior 2 was awful.
stiff crystal
I really liked Ruiner
but at some point I had to quit as I was just smashing the gamepad like no tomorrow
pearl elk
its on EGS now though, few of Devolvers are
pearl elk
lol yeah I own alot of the games Epic gives away on Steam already but if I didnt you bet Id be playing em on EGS
stiff crystal
btw, I could swear that like 50% of those gamepass games are ue4 games
almost every game I installed from it was made with ue4
which is weird considering I barely got any ue4 games on steam
north torrent
What other engine is there?
pearl elk
I was considering gamepass to play Gears 5 but I bought it on Steam instead
stiff crystal
well, all I'm saying, that microsoft store has way more ue4 games than even EGS has
north torrent
I'm pretty sure that 99.99% of Unity games never get finished.
north torrent
CryEngine died in 2013, just like my soul.
stiff crystal
there really isn't any major obstacles on Unity or UE4 for finishing
vocal vapor
Engine licensing really isn't as big as it used to be.
stiff crystal
for CE or LumberYard however...
wet horizon
the amazon engine
stiff crystal
you gotta be quite hardcore to actually get something decent out
as the tooling is so... lacking
vocal vapor
KEX is also a thing.
So far it's only been used as a framework for remastering old games though.
stiff crystal
unigine too
is there like one game actually made with it or something?
engine still gets news on updates
vocal vapor
I kinda wish id still let people license their tools.
But if you really felt like it you could use the previous id tech versions.
Which some people do, because they're open source.
stiff crystal
good luck selling that gpl licensed game
vocal vapor
Nah WTFPL.
stiff crystal
substance share originally had cc-by-sa, which is CC equivalent for gpl basically (SA = share alike)
I actually got allegorithmic convinced that was horrible and they changed it
you can't let that cancer spread
pearl elk
well thats less restrictive than GPL
but yeah you cant modify the license at all which means it stays share alike
vocal vapor
More things should use WTFPL
pearl elk
you dont need a license if you never release anything
signal citrus
finite lark
morning loungeeeeers, sup!
pearl elk
its all happenin
finite lark
@pearl elk what is happening
pearl elk
Eminem released a new album ๐
pearl elk
lol well the new albums got some of that
foggy path
heh, I mentioned that Git can be really confusing what with its hundred ways to achieve the same thing
they added more ways to achieve the same things!
git switch to switch branches, and git restore to restore files :D
...to be fair, seems like a good addition to make it easier to use
cursive crypt
What's so bad with checkout?
foggy path
I guess it's that it operates on things that are sort of on different "levels"
it operates on branches and files, and depending on what switches you use, it does fairly different things as well
cursive crypt
Nah... its fine, never got such problems.
ancient hornet
checkout does two things at once depending on context, switch and restore
they are adding those two commands in a way to kind of "obsolete" checkout then
cursive crypt
Yep.
foggy path
Yeah it's fine if you're used to it but I think it's just one of those things that are confusing to less experienced users
I mean I obviously can't say for certain that it confuses new users, but there has to be some reason why they're adding these and I would assume they've done the research to understand this
cursive crypt
Tend to agree. Make git-newbie
ancient ingot
git-n00b
cursive crypt
Like it.
ancient ingot
๐
ancient ingot
@cursive crypt you will be contributing to the new community wiki i hope? ๐
cursive crypt
Wut? git-noob? Nah...
ancient ingot
no not git-n00b lmao
cursive crypt
Hmm...? Watcha u are talking about?
ancient ingot
top secret ๐
foggy path
git-n00b - A survival game where you have to hide from the wrath of your coworkers after you accidentally deleted the git repo
pearl elk
A day in the life of a game artist
foggy path
That could actually be a fun game ๐ค
You have to survive in an office building, scavenging for cold pizza and warm soda, while dodging angry coworkers
lol
foggy path
You could put it in a microwave but the dinging noise will alert your coworkers to your location!
ancient ingot
๐คฃ
dense storm
http://www.interkaos.com/grabs/devenv_tpnFy7joNm.png my keyboard lol
deep glen
imagine having to dev on that for a week
ancient ingot
๐คฃ hell no
deep glen
MP-team send me a list of all the content I purchased/acquired/have access to.
12 pages long. O_O
ancient ingot
omg luos
deep glen
wish it would say what catagory each file belongs to.. but already happy they send me this.
ancient ingot
yeah category would be helpful with 12 fecking pages of stuff lol
median wraith
Oh good
An official video of the a city event with music from audio jungle
with the audio of "audio jungle preview" on it
each day I get more impressed by the quality of this country
sage tendon
@deep glen you can make an AAA title with just that :P
@median wraith it can be worse. The official website from the government of the netherlands for tourists is Holland.nl while Holland is actually just 2 provinces
Like USA would be called Dakota instead ๐
bold fulcrum
I still have few old props with Made in Holland on em.
signal citrus
Dakota south, north?
deep glen
lol
signal citrus
๐ @civic bramble
civic bramble
maybe early version of this patch had this issue which they fixed in patch itself but i still find the wording hilarious ๐
signal citrus
yeah gif reaction is worthy
hazy delta
they're a year late ๐ค
solar nebula
@civic bramble what's odd about that humm
novel latch
2020 version is already out. They know their older versions don't sell.
Free money from Epic.
I remember someone throw an older version of the game on my head during Gamescom. Nobody picked it up, except me :/
thin storm
there is actually competitive farming simulator.
median wraith
Farming Simulator 20 as the 18 version are mobile only
so yeah last one is 19 for PC
there isn't a newer one
novel latch
there is one on Switch
median wraith
I bought myself the 17 one back in the time
novel latch
aight imma head out :7
mild root
@dense storm come on bro, can't you get el cheapo few dollars keyboard from local store?
signal citrus
hm
vapid cloak
hows everyone doing
dense storm
@mild root i did i bought a ยฃ5 one
till mine comes tomorrow
got this coming tomorrow
foggy path
that looks nice
been thinking of getting something to replace my Ducky, maybe with a metal plate
sage tendon
I wish for a mechanical keyboard where I can set the key stiffness to my need at that point. For gaming i prefer harder key pressing than for when im writing
sage tendon
They have that?
dense storm
dense storm
im not a fan of razer
i had a older razer keyboard, yes it felt nice but it didn't feel "premium"
foggy path
Does that actually allow you to adjust the stiffness? Afaik it allows adjusting the actuation point
foggy path
yeah would be interesting to try
local computer store has a few of those on shelf ๐ค probably not a demo unit tho..
dense storm
i have a 5 quid cheapo atm, membrane keyboard
it sucks
cant believe my k70 packed up ๐ฆ
whole bottom row of keys stopped working
foggy path
Cheaper than the SteelSeries which seems pretty good for custom lol
atomic barn
if you are looking for a good, durable, custom mech keyboard these are amazing
i have a 61-key v3
best $200 (CAD) i ever spent
broken sigil
I got Redragon Kala k557 3 years ago for 70$ and it's still going strong, every key feels exactly the same as the first day and it's built like a tank
solid aurora
Fortnite will be moving to Unreal Engineโs Chaos physics system. A
so
Chaos production ready this year I assume
and PhysX out asap
stiff crystal
it's great for engine tho
as they have biggest possible userbase on that game
so, whatever issues they find, they'll get reported
atomic barn
Ya they tend to roll out new features to Fortnite to stress test them
rich quiver
yes
signal citrus
I dunno tbh
I think its more that they probably made chaos for fortnite
which isn't bad
rich quiver
there was system plan before to get rid of PhysX
solid aurora
there is actually more to it
they need their own Physics engine to support big worlds
there are plans to support world bigger than floating point
signal citrus
music to ears
solid aurora
nothing set in stone yet, but you need custom physics for it anyway
rich quiver
it also drive to cost down since they don't need Nvidia support
median wraith
Guys remember that epic bought a company to make replicated physics entities and destruct able worlds in raltime back years ago
So thats the thing
solid aurora
Cloudgine
rich quiver
yes
stiff crystal
I really wonder how big cost nvidia was
median wraith
But idk how at this point the engine didn't update on many ways
Engine vehicle system still a joke
stiff crystal
developing an maintaining your own setup can't be cheap either
median wraith
And they made vehicles everywhere
solid aurora
idk how it was about cost and how much about physx beign overengieered crap -;-
signal citrus
how much impulse code do you use?
solid aurora
instead of trying to bend it to your engine
signal citrus
I believe there is a correlation to hate of physx and impulse code amount
stiff crystal
I like physx
signal citrus
why they point pistols that way anyhow?
stiff crystal
ue4 users hate physx because they think their physics bugs are all caused be physx
boy what a dissappointment it will be when chaos glitches even more on them
chaos does let you do different things tho
but for basic sims, I wouldn't expect chaos to do any better at all
signal citrus
even on unity where its fixed update, physx fails to be reliable
solid aurora
and the fact that Chaos is cache friendly by design
stiff crystal
there's fixed update for physics on unreal too
if you just build it yourself and grab someones โข๏ธ git branch for it
signal citrus
lol :)
stiff crystal
(I did update that crap to 4.24 too recently)
signal citrus
but it'd still be physx
stiff crystal
yeah
I'm fine with it ๐
my biggest beef with unreals physics is more how they've done the framework
signal citrus
"just crouch and un crouch jump and duck and push and wiggle and blngo"
stiff crystal
it's not designed right at all
solid aurora
wait
signal citrus
i dislike the bindings in unreal too
solid aurora
it is not designed to be used with multiple physics engines
and with Chaos
it probabaly will be even less so ;p
rich quiver
robo recall chaos 
stiff crystal
has been since 4.21 or 4.22
median wraith
I did a fixed timer the other day on the BP, to the controls of movement ๐ค a counter on the tick
signal citrus
i thought it was only defines?
theres a pure virtual going on for physics api in ue?
stiff crystal
but like, UE4 doesn't even let users simply call simulate on physics world themselves
stiff crystal
Unity has had that stuff years ago already
median wraith
I thought UE4 had a chaos since 4.0 ๐ค
stiff crystal
and to change physics stepping in ue4, you have to mod the engine source code, always
it would be relatively simple to expose all that easily to users
signal citrus
hovak
median wraith
Microsfot
stiff crystal
Unity's Havok implementation is quite barebones and bugged btw
they did the initial implementation and there's really not been much improvements since
median wraith
2020 you all talking about the physics and Ray tracing, but nobody talks about the flat planes trees, grass and FX
1999 FPS had voxel grass
stiff crystal
flat plane trees are still being used
for the fx, you just need to summon Luos here
median wraith
That's the problem
stiff crystal
Luos?
median wraith
Rambo, Rambo where are you reply
EVERYBODY IS DEAAAAAD
Idk if that's the correct translation xd
wet horizon
I've never seen Rambo
pearl elk
Romba
stiff crystal
signal citrus
slow down, want carrots
gleaming hill
Carrot on a stickroomba
signal citrus
roombaht
bleak thicket
you mean carrotbaht
pearl elk
caroombaht
cursive crypt
There are not many options. People use guns, not brushes.
pearl elk
theyre obviously expecting to invade the forest moon of Endor with their woodland camo
cursive crypt
Haven't seen it. Maybe they gonna paratroop from space instead?
pearl elk
you cant really paratroop from space, you have to enter Earths atmosphere which is Air Force territory
youre not allowed to have weapons in space anyways
and in all honesty that camo isnt nearly as good as our disruptive
bold fulcrum
Should be more blacks in space camo tbh
pearl elk
lol I think this is a community made one
this one didnt make the cut
this is kinda what I expected this is a Navy one
bold fulcrum
Why last one has retro reflective tape on the sleeves?
pearl elk
thats incase youre trapped in the dark they can see you
pretty common scenario for warships
bold fulcrum
First one is def. Legit space camo.
pearl elk
I think space camo might require a mask of some sort
might be a good idea if it were pressurized too ๐
median wraith
henlo
median wraith
So removed the Volumetric fog and save 3ms
dense storm
Volumetric fog can be expensive
median wraith
I'm lost here
and what the hell is Kartridge
why Discord ins't listed
129% graphs
well that probably is hybrid
pearl elk
Discord got rid of its store didnt it
hazy delta
I have no idea how to read this
pearl elk
theres some really poor rounding errors on those percentages
median wraith
oh it looks like, didn't know they removed the store ?
pearl elk
basically most people are making <10% revenue
median wraith
yeah makes no sense
them all takes less from of the 10% from every store
their main source of income must be idk what
pearl elk
well consider that not all games are sold at 100% their price all the time especially with things like gamepass and subscriptions
there are added costs too like licensing fees, paying third parties and whatnot
median wraith
yeah but is the % of your total
pearl elk
I do find it odd that Steam has such a high percent of 76-100% considering Valves cut
median wraith
if no one of the stores give you it
where you take the revenue from
is the revenue % of your total income from what I get it
no from the game price
pearl elk
yeah so if your game is 50% off you get much less
these charts are saying most people make <10% revenue from the total retail price
median wraith
still have to compute a % no the total
is a % based on every platform
and if all platforms returns you a 10%
you're at 10
or explain me
pearl elk
nah thats not how its working
its a poll, so they asked people how much they made, its not calculated by them
median wraith
well is the only way to read the charts as someones with the combined total of % returns up 150%
pearl elk
no
the charts should be 100% of people who responded but there are rounding issues so I get 97% of people in one and 101% of people in another
so thats the total of the bar graphs then in the columns thats the percent they made from their games
so it doesnt matter if your game is $10 or $100, if you only made 10% revenue youre in that lower column. Im assuming its a net profit after expenses
foggy path
...okay I did not expect that to happen
median wraith
why ue4 export the curves as UE4 object
๐ค
import is only for csv
and export as T3D
alpine fern
median wraith
does someone imported curves in this nightmare ?
This is after the fail message
XDDD
alpine fern
median wraith
oh siet worked
The landscape bug still there
the location get locked and you can't move it
signal citrus
T3D and COPY arenโt to be imported yeah
median wraith
and what they expect to do with that
alpine fern
it's the copy paste format
when you copy a value in the details panel it formats it like that
alpine fern
ancient ingot
http://ue4community.com/ smileeeeeeeee
robust gulch
when someone asks me to redo their code but it looks like this
https://forums.unrealengine.com/filedata/fetch?id=1145133&d=1425402553
analog nova
you should be able to copy the contents of a T3D file and paste it into the editor @median wraith
Works in 4.22
median wraith
nope in 4.21
foggy path
I have no idea how anyone makes sense out of those crazy messy blueprints you see all the time here
All my blueprints have mostly perfectly straight lines and nicely aligned things with reroute nodes etc. :P
median wraith
thats a material
ancient ingot
my blueprints are fucking awsome
cursive crypt
So they're either fukin or awesome?
ancient ingot
both ๐
and good afternoon @cursive crypt
trying to set up these servers while my medication is kicking my ass is not good
analog nova
@median wraith it should definitely work if the t3d data you're trying to import is from the same engine level or near enough
open the t3d file in a text editor, copy the entire thing, and paste it into your scene
there's no `Import -> T3D' anymore because it's redundant to have
Every single version of Unreal Engine I've used, going as far back as UnrealEd2 has let you paste t3d data into the scene without importing it
analog nova
Oh, thought you were talking about the Import function not allowing t3d files
It's just a curve, you have the data right there
You can enter it manually, pretty sure exporting curves is for plotting them in external programs
analog nova
Your screenshot shows a .csv?
analog nova
So what's inside the T3D file?
median wraith
Begin Object Class=/Script/Engine.CurveFloat Name="liftcurve"
Begin Object Class=/Script/Engine.AssetImportData Name="AssetImportData"
End Object
Begin Object Name="AssetImportData"
End Object
FloatCurve=(Keys=((Time=-180.000000),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=-168.284302,Value=0.837808,ArriveTangent=0.003787,LeaveTangent=0.003787),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,TangentMode=RCTM_User,Time=-157.241379,Value=0.086179,ArriveTangent=-0.002523,LeaveTangent=-0.002523),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=-125.000008,Value=0.300000,ArriveTangent=-0.001282,LeaveTangent=-0.001282),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=-90.000000,ArriveTangent=-0.008125,LeaveTangent=-0.008125),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=-45.000000,Value=-0.350000,ArriveTangent=-0.001251,LeaveTangent=-0.001251),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,TangentMode=RCTM_User,Time=-25.862076,Value=-0.080249,ArriveTangent=-0.000032,LeaveTangent=-0.000032),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=-15.000000,Value=-0.907000,ArriveTangent=0.003103,LeaveTangent=0.003103),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,ArriveTangent=0.060456,LeaveTangent=0.060456),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,TangentMode=RCTM_User,Time=15.000000,Value=0.906689,ArriveTangent=0.000239,LeaveTangent=0.000239),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=23.586197,Value=0.102822,ArriveTangent=-0.015035,LeaveTangent=-0.015035),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=55.351002,Value=0.300000,ArriveTangent=-0.001548,LeaveTangent=-0.001548),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=90.000000,ArriveTangent=-0.008623,LeaveTangent=-0.008623),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=124.934296,Value=-0.300000,ArriveTangent=-0.000853,LeaveTangent=-0.000853),(Time=158.462982,Value=-0.058427),(InterpMode=RCIM_Cubic,Time=172.923676,Value=-0.676201,ArriveTangent=0.002713,LeaveTangent=0.002713),(Time=180.000000)))
AssetImportData=AssetImportData'"AssetImportData"'
End Object
that
analog nova
no
copy the contents of the file
not the file itself
i explained this further up
median wraith
the text
analog nova
because it shouldn't be reading an extension in that case
it should know that it's clipboard data
if you select a brush in your scene and copy it to paste somewhere else in your scene, the clipboard data will be T3D format
median wraith
a brush ?
analog nova
if i open a T3D file in my text editor, select it all, copy it, and then paste it into the scene
it's not reading the file
but the data stored inside the clipboard
You're not copying the file itself, just the contents of it
median wraith
How the hell will the engine create a FCurve
from an actor of the world
if the curves aren't actors
analog nova
because it's stored as a reference inside a blueprint actor
analog nova
because you don't import t3d
analog nova
t3d is the format data is stored in when you copy something in the engine
median wraith
is expected to export in csv
analog nova
did you make sure you're exporting it properly in the first place?
median wraith
well
there is only one option called export
and let you export as copy and t3d
thats basically the same with different extension
median wraith
Yeah will report these as well with 4 bugs I found this week
analog nova
You probably need a separate data table asset to export data to CSV
They're probably not bugs if the engine has behaved this way for 5+ years
Revise your methodology
You need to connect your points to a data table asset
There, I Googled the thing for you
analog nova
Go ahead
Everything I say is hilarious and quotable
"the engine doesn't work in this very specific way, must be a bug"
it works, but the engine requires you do it differently so it must be a bug
median wraith
well rather than a bug is a missing feature
like if you export a mesh from UE4 and export it on wav format
and then the importer only allows fbx
makes the same sense
here you can import csv and export in t3d
analog nova
connect the points on your curve to a data table object and export that?
the intended functionality is to export to t3d because exports are assumed to be actors of some kind
data tables have their own functionality
read the link i posted
rich quiver
ue4 need ogg support to lower the game size
stiff crystal
isn't that what ue4 already uses for audio compression?
zenith pilot
Ogg Vorbis can be imported since 4.22
AFAIK every asset is uncompressed to to .wav for editor, and compressed back to ogg while cooking...
stiff crystal
point was, @rich quiver was referring to final game size, and UE4 have always had option to compress audio for that
rich quiver
ok
sharp wolf
Who at Epic is responsible for the new Datatable data manipulation tools. I wanna give them a kiss! ๐
We upgraded to 4.24 last week and i have not edited any DTs until today.
signal citrus
i'm kinda surprised rotating the axis component of a quat isn't more standard than it is
unless i'm misunderstanding something, you can avoid a lot of bs by just rotating the axis to convert spaces
alpine fern
wym rotate the axis
signal citrus
xyz is the axis_of_rotation * sin(angle/2)
if you rotate xyz itself between spaces you can convert the amount of rotation alone
i mean, keep the amount the same
signal citrus
transformrotation in transform like just applies rotation to it
the entire quat i mean
yeah, like it makes a lot of sense when converting spcaes to just rotate the axis
when treating the quat like a limiter
alpine fern
is there anything worse than reading math code you wrote a few months ago and understanding absolutely nothing
alpine fern
function works with values relative to 3 different spaces because of course it does
alpine fern
it's for figuring out the transform your ghost brick should have, based on the ray under your crosshair, the studs on the brick you aimed at, and the available studs on the brick you are trying to place
alpine fern
this alignment
signal citrus
yeah that
fringe sundial
thats smoooooth
alpine fern
it can be smooth because it interpolates the transform of the brick grid component that contains the ghost
foggy path
That's neat
My project has some stuff where you can hold objects and attach them into other objects, it is about a million times clunkier than that :D
tidal ivy
Trailmakers has an excellent lego style build system if you're looking for references
plucky pagoda
outerworlds or borderlands 3? I guess AMD is mailing out codes when you buy a Ryzen
foggy path
mine's a bit more complicated because some of the different parts talk to each other when the player interacts with them or otherwise check if some parts are present or not etc. :)
so far my solution involves defining "slots" which decide what parts can go into them, and the parts can check if there's anything in some named slot and send messages
which seems to work but it's a bit clunky for the player to figure out :D
Will probably have to add some more visuals and easier placement which is what looks quite nice on that vid
stiff crystal
@plucky pagoda you can play outerworlds on the gamepass PC which you also get with the AMD deal
unless they stopped that offer already
so, would make sense to play the outer worlds through during that 3mo sub
and just get BL3 on EGS with the code
plucky pagoda
microsoft game pass? I probably couldnt use that, I got the maximum time allowed prepaid when they had a dollar deal last month idk, they just emailed a code after buying a Ryzen the other day.
stiff crystal
that should be a different key
but I wouldn't know, as I've not tried to activate my 3mo pass yet
plucky pagoda
They only allow you to activate codes for a total of 3 years max.
I'm over that since last nmonths deal added 3 months on top of it
stiff crystal
you've used 3 years of codes?
I don't get it
the gamepass pc isn't even that old
plucky pagoda
Yeah, got 3 years of ultimate for $120 with live
stiff crystal
ah, you paid in advance
plucky pagoda
- 3 months
plucky pagoda
yeah, got a discount and then they converted all time to ultimate and added 3 months
Jsut watched reviews and decided outerworlp,ds was going to be the choice too
stiff crystal
but if you have 3 years pass (?)
why would you buy the game in addition
if you have years left to play it on the sub
stiff crystal
yes, you told it
so you'd rather have it on your account permanently despite you could play the game anyway now
I guess it coud make sense if there's zero appeal on BL3 for you
that AMD code is cpu specific btw, it gives you different deal depending on the cpu you have on your system
plucky pagoda
I wouldn't say zero, but it doesn't seem too interesting. I barely play games anymore due to time
Ah, I bought a 2700x for my kids workstation
stiff crystal
ah, that's one game deal then
plucky pagoda
had no idea about the deal until I got an email with a code
wet horizon
bought a vape pen but i think it doesnt work FeelsBad
zinc matrix
stiff crystal
I got the joke but I feel people are kinda silly when it comes to being afraid of tick
people do crazy workaround just to avoid "evil" tick, which often end up being just more costly
zinc matrix
maybe ppl doesnt know Set Actor Tick Enabled
pearl elk
why are you even writing code in Actors ๐
north torrent
Why are you even writing code?
cursive crypt
Just... Why even?
signal citrus
why why
tulip orbit
yy
signal citrus
@wet horizon did you figure it out?
Those things are like way more complicated than they should be
wet horizon
the vape pen? seems broken, gonna go to the shop tomorrow
hope its open because it's like 45 mins to get there
signal citrus
The one I used to have, 5 clicks was power, 3 clicks for settings, 2 clicks for page in the screen
If thereโs like a single button anyway. Try pressing it a lot
signal citrus
Word
wet horizon
it was a 18 bucks one so I guess I got what I paid for
signal citrus
Eh, like I used mine to quit smoking but it made me sick cause it was way more powerful than cigarettes nicotine wise
Still, ended up quitting it all so, pending long term damage it kinda worked lol
But yeah maybe it was a dud
wet horizon
I stopped smoking cigs over a year ago
but there's this gamedev stream I watch, the streamer vapes and it seems really enjoyable
that's why I got it
signal citrus
Oof yeah, wouldnโt recommend it
It looks cool but stomach pains and cravings suck
Been off nicotine for probably 3 years now, took one to really get used to stopping the ritual. Wasnโt ever a heavy smoker but was definitely a dependency with work
wet horizon
I was indeed a heavy smoker, a 14's box on a regular day
and non-stop when going to a social event
at least we got over it
signal citrus
Yeah for sure. Itโs a tough thing to overcome
Vaping may be something to avoid tbh, if your talking nicotine
wet horizon
if I feel I'm doing worse when I go running thanks to it, ill stop it
vaping I mean, not running haaa
signal citrus
Yeah, they make it sound like the little glycerin or whatever particles entering tiny openings in lung could be bad. Idk a lot about it though.
broken sigil
can't be any worse for you than cigarettes
wet horizon
It's true that I don't see it as a risk-free habit regardless of facts and evidence, I still want to give it a try for a short period of time at least
and hope it doesn't fuck me up haha
signal citrus
Yeah. I personally didnโt enjoy the vape, not something Iโd do for recreation.
And yeah cigarettes are probably unbeatable in worse ness
fathom wadi
https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/023/684/948/large/marc-rogerson-donuts-50percent-orig.jpg?1580030482
took a week off unreal to play with Blender. Got a bit pink.
median wraith
Fortnite players on chaos video
"Me: sees Fortnite is going to use this engine
My trash iPad barely able to run 30fps: (chuckles) Iโm in danger"
idk man
back in the time we didn't get the things
but all this kids talk about a new engine
signal citrus
I did the same thing really
Remember seeing stuff after quake and quake 2 using a wider pallet of non-browns
And being like, what is this magic?
median wraith
reminds me of that history that the kid see in the floor a big shit, and then start to claim he have a horse gift in xmas
๐
signal citrus
I like the style of that table top Marc, I donโt think those doughnuts are game ready though
jovial talon
signal citrus
Yeah, help
carmine frigate
was looking at the groom docs
Frame rate depends on the size of the groom, its resolution, and underlying hardware it's been run on. For example, you should expect a 30Hz or higher framerate with a 2080Ti for a human groom at 1080p.
thats profiling yall ๐
so fortnite is goin to use chaos soon, but when i tested the demo map it seemed in a bad state
would get all sorts of vid mem errors on my rx580 8gig
it was a few months ago tho
@fathom wadi looks real good
tulip orbit
mario?
tulip orbit
how odd
haughty tinsel
Yeah.
In a discord like this.
Right now I'm getting help from a coderman who is going to help put the combat system in.
tulip orbit
I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, but my foot is sore, so... chews
haughty tinsel
What are YOU up to??
tulip orbit
breakfast. Then probably play stardew valley
should be working on my game, but kindof having a brainfart
haughty tinsel
I'm trying to think of what I should do. Maybe I'll make an organization document of some kind.
pearl elk
Starchew Gummy
pearl elk
Make it horror
tulip orbit
nooooo
fluid bloom
pearl elk
Did you see the clip on facebook of the chick pouring her BFs Coronas down the sink while wearing a mask and gloves?
ancient ingot
omg
sage tendon
@haughty tinsel you mean something like a wishmaster movie?
