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outer mulch
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so it's probably not needed

obtuse condor
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Yea

outer mulch
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i also think the ideal number of playerrs is either 1 per nation or 1 per nation plus a co-op for each faction leader

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having multiple co-ops on the same team makes it very hard for the team to coordinate

obtuse condor
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True

outer mulch
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becasue you've got 2 german players trying to work together in the same voice channel as 2 italian players

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so they go to separate channels

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but then they can't work together as nations

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but having 2 german players, 1 italian, 1 japan, that works fine

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so i want to re-write the team rules to try to accomedate multiple groupings of players

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I.E. if you have only 4 players you play these 4 nations

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if you have 6 players you play these4 and add 2 co-op, if you have 8, play these 6, etc.

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to try to make the rulset work for a larger scope of players

obtuse condor
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Means less minors too

outer mulch
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yeah, i am planning to write a different ruleset for large groups with lots of minors

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a draft system

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but that is only in the planning statges atm

obtuse condor
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My favorite house rule is max two majors per faction. Of which China is included as a major

half dagger
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Has anyone noticed that the Historical AI is...

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Very crap at being historical?

obtuse condor
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Yeah...

half dagger
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It's so bad that it's quite horrific.

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Japan never declares war on The UK.

outer mulch
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it needs to be renamed

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it's not historical mode

half dagger
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Germany never destroys Denmark and Norway.

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Spain becomes part of the Axis.

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Russia is declared on by 1939 or 40 instead of 1941.

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OR!

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Russia declares on Germany instead.

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Still...

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Oh!

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I just had a "historical game".

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War started in 1938.

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The Soviet Union declared on Poland.

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Followed by Germany.

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And since Poland was accepted into the Allies.

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I was against both The Comintern and Axis.

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๐Ÿ‘

vagrant trout
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Whats the diff

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Between historic and not

half dagger
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Well, Historic AI means that the AI Nations will take their national focuses in a historical manner.

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Well, Historic AI means that the AI Nations will take their national focuses in a historical manner.

ruby crest
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Also historic AI will take specific options inside events where non will take different. Example the franco british union.

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Also historic AI will take specific options inside events where non will take different. Example the franco british union.

mossy olive
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FYI @outer mulch I dont think you can do this in discord but in stuff like teamspeak/mumble ect you can set up communications between other channels

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So to make things simple lets say the two germans talk to each other and discuss things and one of them can speak to the italian team "leader"

ruby crest
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What is everyones favorite mod?

sudden laurel
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I'm still waiting on Kaiserreich for HoI4

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For DH, it's first place, behind the Grand Campaign mod

ruby crest
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Thats not hoi4 right

sudden laurel
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Darkest Hour

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it's a variant of HoI2

obtuse condor
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kek

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the generic Slav fascist leader in the mod I'm using right now is the black and white version of the official portrait of the current Russian Minister of Defence

verbal wyvern
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LOL

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest I have a question

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how do I get an AND condition between two factors, one of which has OR in it?

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and I need it to work for countries that are ENG, RAJ, CAN, AST, NZL, SAF, but only when ENG is at war with GER

ruby crest
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@obtuse condor
and = {
or = { stuff you already have
}
and = {
england is at war with germany
}

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}

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This is inside the not loop

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest cheers

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is it like this?

ruby crest
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You need to and the or and and

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I know inside stellaris not work like nors. Even though they have nors.

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@obtuse condor

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest I need to do what now?

ruby crest
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YOu are missing AND between the OR and the AND.

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest how is it supposed to look then?

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I swear to God, this is way easier in SQF for ArmA

ruby crest
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not = {
AND = {

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OR = { The tag stuff}

ruby crest
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AND = {
any country = {
Limit = { tag = ENG
}
has_war_with = GER
}

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Yeah like that

obtuse condor
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technically you don't need AND for that

ruby crest
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nots function as a NOR so you do need the and

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or they do inside stellaris

fossil knoll
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can anybody help my to learn to do a mod for hoi 4

cold otter
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I want to see a mod about the race in hoi4

outer mulch
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this page has been missing from the modding wiki for far too long:

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added it just now

obtuse condor
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@outer mulch and it's already gone

half dagger
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Indeed.

outer mulch
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yeah ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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they said it's already covered by the others, but I don't think that's true

ruby crest
outer mulch
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in my experience the other wiki pages are not as complete

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i will try to find the ones that are missing and plug them in when i come across them

ruby crest
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Triggers is covered under conditions

obtuse condor
obtuse condor
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what the fuck is that flag

obtuse condor
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and like all degenerates, they hail from Detroit

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I thought Nazis had good flags.

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That's ugly shit.

ruby crest
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Its not a good flag?

obtuse condor
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Ugly as shit.

ruby crest
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Its not a flattering angle

obtuse condor
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I saw the picture of it flat.

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AHAHAHA

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LOOK AT THAT FUCKER

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It's still terrible

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The worst part of this nazi organization is that they dont have the one upside most nazis do

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dank aesthetic

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they have obese guys in t-shirts amd jeans holding their assugly flag

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0/10

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lol American neo nazis

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so cringe

half dagger
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Real nazis are best nazis.

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They had damn good style in regards to military uniforms.

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And 0 practicality.

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They can't even pull off the brownshirt look.

obtuse condor
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after you have seen the bad flag, is it really a surprise natsoc never caught on in the usa

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@obtuse condor correct me if I'm wrong, but the biggest stormfag movement just used the US flag

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shrug

obtuse condor
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lol china blocking people with any turkey relation from entering

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and if it is just a stamp in the passport

obtuse condor
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damn this isnt offtopic

ruby crest
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@obtuse condor Go to the right of the message there is a gear with a delete option

spare roost
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Is there any working cold war mod? both cold front and Iron Curtain are not even near finished

cunning crypt
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no

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there is a ww1 one

obtuse condor
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@cunning crypt is the ww1 one out yet

cunning crypt
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yeah

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I think it is called ww1 states or something like that

crude oak
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there are two major ww1 ones

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the war to end all wars is pretty good, but still quite unfinished

obtuse condor
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@zak#0299 you know the historically plausable country name mod?

ruby crest
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No

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest right, basically it was a simple mod that changed nation names to their either official or plausable names

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so France would be the French Republic

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and things like that

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however, the guy who made it hasn't updated it in months, so it's missing countries like Vietnam and Israel

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I'd appreciate suggestions

ruby crest
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You cannot really go wrong with slapping peoples republic on the end

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest for Communists, yeah

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I'm more stumped with unaligned and fascist names

ruby crest
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laos could be named kingdom of laos

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all the french indochina I think was kindgomes

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Probably for unalighned

half dagger
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Well...

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Unaligned is a very vague position.

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Since for places like Yugoslavia, they were monarchies.

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While Greece, apparently, is lead by a normal man.

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So, it's very vague.

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It could be argued that, depending on the nation, it could still be a democratic government.

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However, their attitude to foreign policy is a little different to a democracy, which prefers neutrality.

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Amusingly...

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To provide some examples.

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A non-aligned Italy is The Kingdom of Italy.

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United Kingdom is Great Britain.

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German Reich becomes Germany and has the Weimar republic flag.

obtuse condor
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@half dagger uh

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not quite

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fascist italy is the Kingdom of Italy as well

half dagger
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I am aware that that is definitely the case, I'm just reporting what is presented in HOI4.

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Which, we both know...

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Has neglected historical accuracy a bit.

obtuse condor
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throughout the second world war, that was its title, and the head of state was Victor Emmanuel III

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well, in that regard, HoI is semi historical

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as far as Italy is concerned

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Victor is a national spirit for Italians

half dagger
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Quite, +5% national unity.

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While George VI is 15%.

obtuse condor
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so?

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Americans get nothing for their leader

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Dislikes Germany

half dagger
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That's just an AI modifier.

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So yes...

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It's nothing.

obtuse condor
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no shit

half dagger
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Yes, shit.

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But still...

half dagger
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What I'm trying to say is that each country that's under a non-aligned government...

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Has varying ideologies.

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The UK is centrism.

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Poland is an Oligarchy.

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And Yugoslavia is a Monarchy.

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At least, according to what we're given.

obtuse condor
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unaligned in HoI 4 is anything that isn't the extreme

half dagger
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Pretty much.

ruby crest
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Its either having the kingdom of laos be democratic or unalighne

obtuse condor
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unaligned, I guess

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could call both the democratic and unaligned versions the Kingdom of Laos

half dagger
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I'd go with unaligned too.

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And just have the head of state be someone different.

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Democratic is the prime minister/president.

obtuse condor
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I don't change heads of states

half dagger
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Well, most HoS's are just decoration.

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Unless you're German.

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25% political power.

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Anywho!

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Heinrich, sir!

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How are you?

turbid flume
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hey

obtuse condor
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@half dagger good

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my apologies, I haven't noticed that last question

obtuse condor
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and it's done

obtuse condor
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Most 3d model mods seem to change the soldier camo/skin. You guys know of any that might add new tank skins or stuff like that?

snow oriole
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grand 3d model project thingy has the best stuff

obtuse condor
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Is it on steam workshop?

half dagger
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Well...

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The new developer diary is deeply concerning.

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So concerning that I'm actually quite angry.

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Apparently, the ability for an individual to have a battleplan command that adds the ability for mechanised formations to perform proper blitzkriegs...

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Is going to be a feature you pay for.

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I'm not a proponent of DLC or content packs.

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Because such a thing is truly low by trying to squeeze blood from a stone.

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Or should I say money from the public's wallets?

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The only time I agree with bringing out a content pack is if it's an expansion.

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Which adds massive amounts of new content.

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After all, I remember The Sims 1-Where ever it is now having expansion packs.

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And they added tonnes of new stuff.

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Same with games like WoW (dry heave).

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They added new content in abundance.

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Instead, companies are selling crumbs for the price of a four course meal with oral afterwards.

ruby crest
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Its pretty common for them to sell game changing features for a price

obtuse condor
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I just want to know how it'll work for multiplayer. Hopefully like EU4 where only host need the expansion. Right?

ruby crest
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Every game they released recently stellaris, EU4, and CK2 only requires the host

obtuse condor
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Awesome

half dagger
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That sounds like real scummy stuff.

obtuse condor
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We don't know what else is coming, so let's wait about raising forks and stuff

half dagger
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Let's not.

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Let's be frank and state that as we continue to fork out for crumbs...

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The companies, Paradox included, are going to offer fewer for the same price.

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If people are going to pay money.

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They should be treated like royalty.

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And not the Yugoslavian kind.

obtuse condor
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Johan's been called Jewhan for years for a good reason, lads

ruby crest
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Its not like you really need this new plan. The game is still very complete and enjoyable without any DLC. Putting over a hundered hours into a 30-40$ game means I got my value worth. I don't expect aditional content for free I know what I am buying and any other content is bonus.

obtuse condor
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complete

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enjoyable

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AI is a mess

ruby crest
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100 hours of enjoyment from me

obtuse condor
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China and PRC don't have focus trees, but fucking Poland does

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same goes for Finland

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the list can go on and on

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also, the only enjoyment I got out of it was MP based

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if it were SP only, then I'd refund it in a heartbeat

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there is fuck all to do in SP

ruby crest
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That is your opinion. In my opinion its complete enough to justify a 40$ price

obtuse condor
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you know what they say about opinions

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if you're willing throw that money away, fine by me

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I'm glad I got it for free

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and the person who paid for it only had to fork out enough for the Russian price

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PDX have grown fucking complacent and need some competition

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desperately

ruby crest
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I got more enjoyment from hoi4 then civ5. and I spend much less on hoi4. Its a complete game. Its not the pinicle of what it could be but it is finished.

obtuse condor
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so broken AI is finished in your opinion?

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or the phantom factory bullshit?

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or the missing features on launch?

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or 101 exploits in MP?

ruby crest
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AI is not that bad only if you know how to abuse it.

obtuse condor
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mate, I fucking fell asleep once and still won the war

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and all I had was a front line drawn up

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against Germans

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as the UK

ruby crest
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I got 100 hours of enjoyment from it and I did not ever feel like it was a rip off.

obtuse condor
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with no offensive arrows

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and they still lost

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well, I'm very glad for you

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The AI is awful

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Nuff said

ruby crest
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Maybe its just the trend of the entire industry but if I was to look through the stream store on games I have bought I would call hoi4 one of the more finished ones.

obtuse condor
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MP is the most fun I've ever had though

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@ruby crest so we should low the bar because others do it?

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great fucking motivation right there

ruby crest
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I am not lowering it its not hig hto beggine with. It has been that way for a long time now

obtuse condor
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the phantom factory shit has been reported since June

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and they've done nothing to fix it

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nada

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there is exactly one thing that I for one am thankful for

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Hotjoin?

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the fact that they stopped that shit with "every new DLC changes the checksum"

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no

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they basically stopped DLCs from changing checksums

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back with CK2, I believe

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That's interesting

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before that, any new piece of DLC would do that

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Hoi4 is my first real Paradox game

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meaning that if you wanted to play MP with someone, you HAD to have the exact same DLCs on

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or bought

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otherwise you'd be shit outta luck

ruby crest
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Since ck2 if the host had the DLC everyone could use it in MP

obtuse condor
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then someone must've stumbled across Jewhan's puke-covered body in the company bathroom, woke him up and told him that that shit ain't gonna fly for long

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@ruby crest no shit

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so yeah, that's one major achievement on PDX's side

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lmfao

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You really hate the guy huh

ruby crest
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I think paradox's new model is much more consumer frendly then there previous. Lower prices, free content, and you may disagree more complete games on launch

obtuse condor
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@obtuse condor it's mostly /gsg/ memeing around

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Johan is the focal point of it

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I mean, how can you not, with photos of him like this floating around

ruby crest
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I remember playing victoria 2. 1 million people (in a single province) living in the middle of the fucking desert, and all soldiers.

obtuse condor
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I'm not 100% sure that it's him, but people have been banned in the past for posting that photo on the forums

ruby crest
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Paradox's games are being more complete on launch as of recently they are not underdeveloping them before release.

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest I liked Vicky, but the factory construction noise will stay with me until the day I die

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or railroads

ruby crest
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I play muted

obtuse condor
ruby crest
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Why is CP being discussed on the paradox forums?

obtuse condor
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because PDX forums are a weird place

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lawl

ruby crest
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Have you seen the comments on some stellaris workshop content? White supremissy when black people are included inside a british clothing pack.

obtuse condor
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Rip

ruby crest
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Have you seen the new garrison features?

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I would much rather have the new garrison feature be free then blitz plan.

obtuse condor
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But the garrison feature is free

ruby crest
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I mean they could give you the blitz feature but lock garrison behind the paywall. They are not excluding the most important features to the paywall and are giving you the more important ones.

obtuse condor
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I'mma wait bitching til more features are shown; I just really want em to put the tank/ship models up for purchase

ruby crest
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I want more features so I can throw more china men to there death

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The solution to 80% of chinas problems is more men

obtuse condor
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Will we ever see the China-Japan war cause less WT? :c

ruby crest
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Will we ever see it finish if china won?

obtuse condor
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lmao true

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You should be able to sue for peace or something

ruby crest
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I would totally be fine if there was a event that caused china to annex japanese manchuria, and have a option to puppet/faction/annex korea. All it needs is a event

obtuse condor
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@obtuse condor @ruby crest I'm gonna replace the nuke noise in HoI

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because the vanilla one

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you know nukes in World in Conflict?

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Yeah

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yeah, that sound

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that's what I'm gonna make nukes in HoI sound like

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don't mind the poor quality, Vocaroo kills the bitrate on uploads

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This though

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@obtuse condor meh

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there are so many dog noises in HoI

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for the dev debug mode

obtuse condor
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I wished the game would tell you why it crashes when you try to load it

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my error log is empty

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there are no unassigned provinces

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and there is not a single assigned unit in an oob

half dagger
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Did you run the game in -debug mode?

obtuse condor
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now that I know it exists I will

ruby crest
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@obtuse condor Did you edit the defines with notpad and not notpad++?

mossy olive
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Did you clear your cache?

obtuse condor
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alas one can't read Morocco or Lombardy

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or Egypt

lucid merlin
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obtuse condor
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is this a response to my map

lucid merlin
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yus

obtuse condor
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could you be more expressive

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DH version

lucid merlin
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what mod?

obtuse condor
snow oriole
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the fug is this absolute ahistorical mod

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@obtuse condor

obtuse condor
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please be doing the needful by reading the link tia

snow oriole
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oh wow Lithuania super STRONK

obtuse condor
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just looks like that

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but it used to own most of russia

crude oak
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Is that lithuania or poland-lithuania?

obtuse condor
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lithuania

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absolutely haram

obtuse condor
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it's lithuania-poland

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poland is a mistake

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and WHEN IS KAISEREICH COMING OUT ALREADY

half dagger
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It will come out...

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When it comes out.

obtuse condor
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@obtuse condor I don't recall Poland stretching to Siberia

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unless of course you mean contemporary Russia of that time, and even that the statement is not quite correct, they did control the most important bits for a while

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The Time of Troubles (Russian: ะกะผัƒั‚ะฝะพะต ะฒั€ะตะผั) was a period of Russian history comprising the years of interregnum between the death of the last Russian Tsar of the Rurik Dynasty, Feodor Ivanovich, in 1598, and the establishment of the Romanov Dynasty in 1613. In 1601โ€“03, Russia suffered a famine that killed one-third of the population, about two million. At the time, during the Polishโ€“Muscovite War (1605โ€“18) (known as the Dimitriads), Russia was occupied by the Polishโ€“Lithuanian Commonwealth, and suffered f...

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that barely counts

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like they got kicked by a bunch of peaants pretty much

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@obtuse condor this is the closest the Polish got to the stated "owned most of Russia" premise

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I was merely refuting Riso's point

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tbh

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Poland was a mistake

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most nation states were a mistake

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but a necessary one

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probably

obtuse condor
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@obtuse condor nobody cares for historical complains in an alt-hist mod

obtuse condor
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I would like to see Hitler as a field marshal
Level -1
minus to tactic
Give yourself a bit of a challenge against Russia while still being a bit historical

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he actually had very good intuition but he was also overworked, his subordinates ignored his orders or simply did not tell him anything

obtuse condor
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@obtuse condor we weren't talking about the mod though

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I sure as shit wasn't

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so why you'd ping me

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because I thought you weren't either

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well you were w r o n g

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partially

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I'm still correct on the historical point

obtuse condor
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<reloadoob> is broken; it duplicates planes

half dagger
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If he was overworked...

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Then he should have learned a very nice skill called...

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Delegation.

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When you've modified a nations laws to point where YOU are the law.

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You should use that power.

obtuse condor
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how many hoi2/dh submarines equal 1 hoi4 submarine

ruby crest
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@obtuse condor What do you mean?

obtuse condor
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didn't hitler order the Stalingrad armies to not retreat, resulting in a terrible defeat

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Yeah
And I believe a general was promoted to Field Marshal, with the intention to symbolize that there would be no retreat

obtuse condor
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the old games pretended 5/10 dd/subs are 1 unit, hoi4 seems to go for individual units

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civil war man

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dont be so uncoo

lucid merlin
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yeah i just realized

obtuse condor
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just shows how lazy paradox is with the flags!

obtuse condor
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ps total conversions where you have to redo the entire world with units sucks

half dagger
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@obtuse condor @obtuse condor To answer your question and confirm your belief. Yes, the order of the army that was trapped inside Stalingrad was to hold their position and not breakout or retreat. In an attempt to ensure this, Hitler promoted the commander, Friedrich Paulus, to the rank of Field Marshal. Before that fateful day, no German Field Marshal had ever surrendered, all of them had opted for suicide or never lost. Hitlers expectation of Paulus by giving him that rank was indeed symbolic, since Paulus now had the tradition of a German Field Marshal on his shoulders.

However, Paulus didn't care and surrendered anyway. He's quoted as saying the following: I have no intention of shooting myself for that Bohemian corporal, making reference to the fact that Hitler's military experience was that of a corporal during The Great War and the fact that he also was a painter in his youth, not that he was from the region of Bohemia.

obtuse condor
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anyone know how the game treats the urban tile on the map and how to change it?

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it's unrelated to setting the characteristics

ruby crest
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Terrain map I think

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Do you mean visually, terrain, or building slots

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@obtuse condor

obtuse condor
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visually

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putting it into terrain map is fucked up

obtuse condor
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I moved a leader to a different country and now the game cant find it

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so I changed the path

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however [texturehandler.cpp:163]: Texture Handler encountered missing texture file: gfx/leaders/AUT/gfx/leaders/GER/Portrait_Germany_Erwin_von_Witzleben.dds

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that's right, using picture = "gfx/leaders/GER/Portrait_Germany_Erwin_von_Witzleben.dds" gives me the error above

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also I am really not sure what the id is for on the leaders it works fine without

ruby crest
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@obtuse condor terrain.bmp

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?

obtuse condor
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added a new leader ahead of hte old one in the file

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but the game still picks the one I dont want??

obtuse condor
obtuse condor
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@obtuse condor can help with localisation stuff

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what language

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Russian

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German, if there is a need for that

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thank god it's russian the last thing I need is german

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how come?

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you'd think that German would be way more needed than Russian of all languages

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Mutterspracheeeeeeeeeee

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oh

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that would explain it

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appreciate it but right now I have basically nothing except country names

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but if we really stretch this, I can get you some really unusual speakers in here

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the russia in the mod is social democratic btw

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at the verge of becoming full commie

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it's quite funny

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I really need some national focuses though

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the mod is technically playable because I placed all the units already but only default focus so nothing really happens

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usually I'd 'borrow' from kaiserreich but it's not out, pretty terriblee

obtuse condor
runic mason
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@obtuse condor Is your mod on the Steam Workshop?

obtuse condor
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its not done

runic mason
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Oh

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(I can't access the forum post because it requires me to be signed in and it won't let me create an account)

obtuse condor
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theres no replies

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fucking fags

subtle violet
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Is there any mod to add to the Logistics?

ruby crest
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What do you mean add?

subtle violet
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Like bring more detail into it

ruby crest
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LIke? More then just you can have this many per area

subtle violet
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Like

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HoI 3 logistics

ruby crest
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What do you mean

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As far as I know the only signficant change was local supply, no escorts, and no supply resource

shy trail
#

HoI 4 dumbed down logistics as much as possible, not saying HoI 3 was complicated

subtle violet
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Yeah which annoys the fuck out of me

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest HoI 3 logistics was based around the fact that you could have supply corridors, more or less

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one province wide

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that way you could build up infrastructure there

ruby crest
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You can have that in the game. They did not remove it

obtuse condor
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they just made that corridor a size of a country

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you can't just hit one province and cut the supplies off

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no, you need to get most of the region to do it now as well as all physical connections through that region

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that's just the tip of the iceberg

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@ruby crest but what it all boils down to is this

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say you know that the enemy has a logistical hub in some region

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you can hit it with paratroopers

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then provide then with supplies with transport planes dropping supplies

ruby crest
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No ammount of modding would be able to reintroduce that.

obtuse condor
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correct

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it'll be in one of the upcoming DLCs

ruby crest
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I am pretty sure that would be a free feature

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A paid feature would be like the ability to draw supply corodors.

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest That's what we thought about the blitz function.

ruby crest
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@obtuse condor Blitz is not mandetory. Its good to have but not mandetory. Where supply lines are mandetory. They are not going to have 2 different ways supply lines work based on DLC. You would pay for the ability to influence or change them.

obtuse condor
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Blitz is really fucking mandatory

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it was the most important part of ww2

ruby crest
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But its not mandatory for gameplay. If you don't have it will suck but it won't prevent you from playing the game. Improved garrision is more important then blitz. If you don't have improved garrison you will need to spend much more time and impact your ability to play the game.

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A example of a mandatory feature is forts in eu4. They cannot really delete every fort in the map and lock it behind a paywall. It cannot be done its mandetory to give. Where click the + development button is not mandetory.

ashen forge
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blitz? improved garrison?

ruby crest
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the new DLC features

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They are making garrision order less stupid and better.

shy trail
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I tried to combine blackice and emperor of the world for shits and giggles and it fucked europe up so hard

ashen forge
#

what's blitz though?

shy trail
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probably an attack order, haven't read dev diaries yet

ashen forge
#

ah

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that'll be cool

shy trail
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fucking hell

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thats alot

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest a blitz feature

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in a game about WW2

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not mandatory

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considering how I micro in MP all the time, I get the point, but do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound when you say that?

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how hard can one man shill for Paradox?

ashen forge
#

the blitz feature is just a more direct attack order

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if you have a force made up of motorized, light tanks and infantry, you're blitzing

shy trail
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I think it triggered ppl more so bc it was listed as a "paid feature" when it seemed like a regular attack order

ashen forge
#

it's DLC, what do people expect to be paid for, no new features?

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I mean, it's Paradox, maybe they just expect portraits

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looking at you, CK2

shy trail
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it feels pretty bland, you'd kinda expect these things at first release, people were more so expecting focus trees for places like china, romania, spain, etc

ashen forge
#

that's fair

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buttttt

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the DLC is literally adding focus trees for the commonwealth

shy trail
#

one of the dev diaries mentioned that with the NZ focus tree, you could invade australia, meanwhile NZ barely had enough population to field 3 divisions irl, seems like a waste of time and effort for a country with not alot of interest

ashen forge
#

maybe TheRedPill can invade New Zealand then

shy trail
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I don't think many people will even touch New Zealand, alot of countries could've used a focus tree more

ruby crest
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A NZ focus tree strengthens UK. It gives UK more acess to oil. If they gave spain or china a focus tree they would be doing them a injustice. They need more then just a simple focus tree added. They need things like improved border war. Because currently border war is 100% won by nationalist.

shy trail
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it gives the UK more access to oil he says, because the UK is obviously incapable of getting more oil through conquest or factories for it

obtuse condor
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@ruby crest I've never seen PRC lose borderwar, mp, ai, and sp

shy trail
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I have twice in SP

obtuse condor
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The only time I've seen it lose was me as natchina in sp

shy trail
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They only kill PRC when Nationalist dies usually

ruby crest
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@obtuse condor Send all your troops to the border

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No way PRC wins that

raven violet
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Gonna try out the Liberated mod with the zombie mod

shy trail
#

nice

raven violet
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I'm thinking of Joining the Axis as France

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Maybe german reich

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Since I suck at managing countries in africa

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Screw it, I'm going Luxemburg

raven violet
#

Are you kidding me? Japan and Italy are giving volunteers to the zombies

shy trail
#

sounds like an unpolished mod

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lmao

raven violet
#

Tbh, it removes all factions from the game except the country leader your playing as

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So if you play as Soviets

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Only comintern would be in the game

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German Reich: Only axis

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and so on

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I wouldn't say it's unpolished

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I'd say it's because of how stupid Japan's and Italy's AI is

obtuse condor
#

It's clearly unpolished.

raven violet
#

It is unpolished

obtuse condor
obtuse condor
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nice

pulsar flare
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anyone know what is the name of these musics in great war mod?

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@everyone

obtuse condor
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@pulsar flare >musics

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let's see

pulsar flare
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?

obtuse condor
#

tracks

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songs

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that's what they are

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there is no plural of music

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you can't say "musics"

shy trail
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all these kids now-a-days with their rap musics

pulsar flare
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k

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i dont like rap music

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pls

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so

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what is the name?

obtuse condor
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@pulsar flare It's a Long Way To Tipperary for the British

pulsar flare
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no...

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nvm

obtuse condor
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@pulsar flare what the fuck did you want then?

shy trail
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waste his time 2016

obtuse condor
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it's the melody of It's a Long Way To Tipperary playing for the British theme

pulsar flare
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no isn't

obtuse condor
#

could you please at least attempt to communicate in English?

pulsar flare
#

pls my grammar sucks a lot

obtuse condor
#

I've noticed

lucid merlin
#

quality chat

obtuse condor
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@lucid merlin it's fairly typical of this place

lucid merlin
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best part is that he kept saying no

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like what are you looking for then m8

earnest venture
#

Hey, question to any modders. Where is the assosciated localisation txt file for desc = when using create_country_leader
?

runic mason
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@obtuse condor that mod, hegemonia, can you post a non-paradox forum download here?

obtuse condor
#

PIRATE

runic mason
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I cant access the forum thread due to it requiring a forum account, I get an error whenever I try to sign up

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I've been trying for nearly a month

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since november the 23rd, to be precise

obtuse condor
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yyou have to sign in with the paradox account you scrub

runic mason
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I know

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thats what I am trying to create

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(I bought HOI4 on Steam)

obtuse condor
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the only thing I have is the map and placed units

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not even the industry is assigned

runic mason
#

ok

obtuse condor
#

it's all default values from the base game

obtuse condor
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@obtuse condor who gives a fuck?

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the more people pirate their shit, the better

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Johan's tears will be palpable at that point

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Paradox forum downloads vs the easy workshop too

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after all, he was the one who said this

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Why would we use the forums instead of autodownload and update

runic mason
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^

earnest venture
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Any modders around?

ruby crest
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I know how to mod

ruby crest
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@earnest venture

earnest venture
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@ruby crest check pm

astral silo
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ive bought every pdox game since hoi3 and have every expansion for every game except ck2, legit; and i still say screw the forum mods, workshop is far superior (if badly organized)

cunning crypt
#

workshop does have limits on the size of the mods

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and some mods are only on the forum because of this

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but yeah

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workshop is superior

obtuse condor
#

trying to figure out how to deal with the new autonomy feature for my mod

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I cant even properly test it without the dlc

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I just see a few changes in the main game with new puppets around

runic mason
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@obtuse condor could you post the file for that hegemonia mod thing directly here please?

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(as I've mentioned before, I cant sign up to the forum)

obtuse condor
#

I need a flag for German Burma

runic mason
#

ok?

obtuse condor
runic mason
#

thanks

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I'm probably being an idiot

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but

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I have put the hegemonia file into my HOI4 mods folder and selected it via the launcher

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but when I go to the country selection

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its the regular historically accurate map

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@obtuse condor

obtuse condor
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extract the zip into mod\

runic mason
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I put the .mod file I got from the .rar into my mods folder

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(in the first place)

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nvm

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putting the folder that was in the .rar has fixed it

obtuse condor
#

anyone know where that flag is from?

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I need a higher res version for my mod

obtuse condor
#

is that communist sealand

obtuse condor
#

no, netherlands

runic mason
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it only changes hitler's image

obtuse condor
#

top tier

hidden nacelle
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top kek

obtuse condor
#

petition to change it to Sassy Hitler

runic mason
#

ok

astral silo
#

adolf hellnaw

runic mason
gentle copper
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Thanks

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Or call her Blackler

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Also post workshop link pls

obtuse condor
#

@runic mason I didnt bother uplaoding my mod to not receive any feedback dammit!

runic mason
#

it looks interesting

maiden lantern
#

I like it

rich matrix
#

Anyone here use Kaiserreich mod?

obtuse condor
#

Yea

maiden lantern
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I tried but

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I don't have 1.3

hidden nacelle
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@rich matrix yeah, why

obtuse condor
#

@maiden lantern fucking pirate

maiden lantern
#

^

obtuse condor
#

WE'RE TWO

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AND WE'RE PROUDS OF IT

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DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE

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U RE A PIRATE

maiden lantern
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HEY!

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Yes

lucid merlin
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fucking pirate

obtuse condor
#

I hate having to design national focuses

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which is my result is 0

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and I need several

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pretty bad

marble gorge
#

@obtuse condor I feel you

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especially if I have to design more then one generic tree

obtuse condor
#

shockingly enough you arent a help either

marble gorge
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I can help

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kinda

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what do you need?

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right now I'm working on the events for the timeline 2000-2005

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but i'm kinda free

obtuse condor
#

what I need is a basic layout for foreign policy that goes beyond simply "claim X"

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thats ignoring all the other parts in teh tree for now

marble gorge
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hmm

obtuse condor
#

japan cant take korea because it's british and britain is allied with russia

marble gorge
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and what theme is it?

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I mean it looks interesting

obtuse condor
marble gorge
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I see

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I'm from the Modern War mod team btw

obtuse condor
#

tell someone to make a presidential image of J. Edgar Hoover tia

marble gorge
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isn't he from the 70s?

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he's out of our timeline pretty much

obtuse condor
#

he only died in 72 ok

marble gorge
#

yeah

obtuse condor
#

the reds need to attack austria to connect italy with the mainland

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france needs to annex occitania before striking at germany

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lithuania and russia have a grudge match

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the chinese need to have a go at another

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the indian emperor wants his throne in constantinople back

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mazula used to be #1 until america finally beat it in a war so there's revanchism time

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and america would love to have a pacific coast

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germany is at the brink of civil war while at the same time being the reason to keep the status quo

obtuse condor
#

is that Poland

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delet

obtuse condor
#

lithuanian commonwealth!

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russia freed itself from their oppressive shackles i n the great liberal revolution of 1848

obtuse condor
#

how do I replace only a few localisations without having to copy and edit the original files

mortal tangle
#

whats yall favorite mod

gentle copper
#

Historical german flag

marble gorge
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Lol

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My favorite mod is Hearts of Iron Modern War

hidden nacelle
#

mine is Kaiserreich

marble gorge
#

What do you guys think of Millinium dawn

hidden nacelle
#

eh

marble gorge
#

Lol

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Ik it's kinda eh

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But I need what this eh means

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It's for "educational purposes"

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cough exploiting the weakness points

gentle copper
#

Historical german flag because i don't want to think norway is invading the soviet union

obtuse condor
#

you mean you never invaded the soviet union with norway?

cyan garnet
#

I dont like millenium dawns tech system

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Western countries should have huge tech bonuses

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And everything should be ahead of time

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Because ISIS should not be able to research on par with big nations

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Also noone starts with nukes

maiden lantern
#

LOl

#

Mellenium Dawn

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Yes start with nukes tho

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Becuae that is how it is

#

America and Russia and China & co should start with tech bonuses

gentle copper
#

HOW DARE YOU INSULT ISIS

maiden lantern
#

And nukes

gentle copper
#

ALLAH AKBAR

maiden lantern
#

The problem is

#

In that game

#

Literaly no one builds planes

cyan garnet
#

Yeah

#

Isis needs a unique focus tree

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Foreign fighters

#

All that

#

Also US should bomb middle east more

maiden lantern
#

No one has a uniqe focus tree

cyan garnet
#

US does

#

So does russia

maiden lantern
#

Iraq should start as Us puppet

cyan garnet
#

yeah

maiden lantern
#

And Us should have war goal against ISIS

cyan garnet
#

War goal against any islamic country

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Like Iran

maiden lantern
#

Eh

#

No

cyan garnet
#

Since if the right people get in power

maiden lantern
#

But Iran deal should be an event

cyan garnet
#

We would defintiely invade

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Idea

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Focus tree

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Iran deal

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Or bomb them

maiden lantern
#

Realy what they need is tone of events

cyan garnet
#

Yeah

maiden lantern
#

With actual choices

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Like the recount

cyan garnet
#

Feels too dry right now

#

Ive actually seen ww3 happen though

maiden lantern
#

In the 2008 election, there should be a recount option

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Oh yea

#

tones

cyan garnet
#

US invaded afghans

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Iraq allied cisto

maiden lantern
#

Also they need the war message to happen more

cyan garnet
#

I was palestine

maiden lantern
#

I was playing as US

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Invaded Mexico

cyan garnet
#

I could build modern jet fighters

maiden lantern
#

Then Ireland.

cyan garnet
#

Allahu ahkbar isreal

maiden lantern
#

Ierland joined Csto

cyan garnet
#

Is there northern ireland resistance

maiden lantern
#

Has troops in Norway prepping for invasion of denmark

#

No

#

Russia and Co declared

#

I used norwegen backdoor to crush them

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Then I invaded China

#

India

#

el salvador

#

Fucking Poland got way to much land

cyan garnet
#

I saw one DDRjake game where he played bhutan

#

And greece got half of russia

#

Peace confrences suck

maiden lantern
#

Yea

#

Poland got tones of land for just holding the line in Western europe

cyan garnet
#

Millenium dawn seems like it has a lot of potential

maiden lantern
#

I literaly had to help them take out Belarus

cyan garnet
#

But it needs more work

maiden lantern
#

It needs to be expanded like KR

cyan garnet
#

Definitely

maiden lantern
#

I think is they just added more people

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Opened Ideas to the public

#

I could write tones of events

cyan garnet
#

Exactly

#

He needs a bigger team

marble gorge
#

Hey

#

well some of you don't know me

#

but I'm the Hearts of Iron Modern War team leader

#

I've listened to the suggestions

#

which makes sense

maiden lantern
#

Oh

#

That sounds interesting

#

It's separate from MD or part of it?

marble gorge
#

separate

#

I was in the Modern Warfare mod team for HoI 3 and 4

maiden lantern
#

Can you link to the Steam Page?

#

I might want to try it out

marble gorge
#

and HoI 4 version later became Modern War

#

still not released

#

since we don't want to release a half finished mod pretty much

maiden lantern
#

^

#

Already better than Mellenium Dawn

cyan garnet
#

True

obtuse condor
marble gorge
#

well

#

I'm not here to judge which is better

#

we have a discord channel for the mod btw

obtuse condor
#

Extract into My Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV\mod

#

pick France, Union of Rome, Japan, Russia, American Federation or Mazula with its very bad national focus to go to war

#

tell me how it went five years later

marble gorge
#

I have a feeling it'll be real interesting

obtuse condor
#

clearly better than your silly modern day mod :p

cyan garnet
#

Immma try it

obtuse condor
#

I actualyl didnt bother running a test

#

I am sure it will be fine

cyan garnet
#

It didnt work

obtuse condor
#

follow the instructions nerd

#

and dont create a new folder named after the file

cyan garnet
#

Fixed it

#

I see no difference ingame

obtuse condor
#

you are doing something wrong

marble gorge
maiden lantern
#

^

#

Its good

obtuse condor
#

my mod, for sure

#

modern wars seem a bit pointless in hoi

#

"local intensity conflicts"

#

and always a nuke waiting at the other end

marble gorge
#

umm

#

not really

#

there will be a defcon system

#

also you can develop SDIs

#

and ABMs

obtuse condor
#

you can't even get a simple mod download working what makes you think I trust dodgy game mechanics like taht??/

marble gorge
#

cause I've already made such a mod before

#

on a much harder engine to work on

#

Hearts of Iron 3

obtuse condor
#

hoi3

#

fool me once shame on me

#

hoi3 mod

#

ok I fucked tha tsayin up but you know what I mean

marble gorge
#

maybe I should show you

#

Again, I can't convince you

#

everyone have their style

obtuse condor
#

there is no savign hoi3

#

none

marble gorge
#

I'm not saying we will

#

this mod was developped while HOI IV wasn't a thing

white rose
#

fresh server Empty 9010602034535429

marble gorge
#

@white rose u still need some players?

obtuse condor
#

the cover image for the steam workshop

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where do I set that

#

in ck2 you dump it into the mod folder and put it into the mod file before you upload

ruby crest
#

You put it inside your mod folder then need to tell the .mod to use it inside stellaris. Probably the same

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@obtuse condor picture="celestialworkings-armies-icon.jpg"

obtuse condor
#

is there some size limit

ruby crest
#

I don't really know

marble gorge
#

small question guys

obtuse condor
#

no answer goy

marble gorge
#

ok I got it

#

so how is it possible to change the launcher's pic?

obtuse condor
#

not in a mod

#

dont think so at least

#

you have to replace a file in the launcher, duh

marble gorge
#

UMM

#

There is no folder called Launcher

#

the Launcher is an executable

obtuse condor
#

lol

#

when you click hoi4.exe the launcher opens

#

you're clearly stuck in the past

#

also computer challenged

#

it's almost like there's a pdx_launcher folder

hybrid tendon
#

Hmmm so any recommended mod's or just cool one's you guy's know about for this game?

runic mason
#

Kaiserreich

#

Milennium Dawn

#

The Great War

#

Fatherland 1964

#

Emperor of the World

#

Pax Russica

#

all of those are on the steam workshop

#

@hybrid tendon

hybrid tendon
#

Thank you

obtuse condor
obtuse condor
#

that's right @runic mason and @marble gorge you have no excuses no mo

marble gorge
#

lol

runic mason
#

wat

marble gorge
#

excuse for what?

runic mason
#

ooh steam workshop hegemonia

#

yey

marble gorge
#

looks good

obtuse condor
#

excuse for you being too dum to use a 7z

runic mason
#

also noice mod thumbnail

obtuse condor
#

thats an injoke obv

#

from the lp

runic mason
#

I'm thinking of doing something like that LP

#

but first I need to git gud at EU4

#

and Victoria 2

obtuse condor
#

what you have to realise is that you have to come up with events and craft a story

#

else it's going to be really boring

runic mason
#

yep

#

I've written a few stories over the past year or so

obtuse condor
#

and always remember

#

players are going to fuck it all up

#

by picking the worst option every time

runic mason
#

because picking the worst option is FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

obtuse condor
#

oh damn I forgot to change the egyptian image

#

I am using a different flag n ow

#

oh w/e

half dagger
#

I'd be inclined to suggest the mods I've either helped to make or made myself.

#

Which is Vanilla + (helped) and Dieu Et Mon Droit (made), respectively.

#

However!

#

I've not played Vanilla + and DEMD is far from complete.

#

But, people seem to like what's been done so far.

obtuse condor
marble gorge
#

Our mod (Hearts of iron : Modern War) has started the recruitment of experienced modders , we mainly need someone able to write focus trees and events (time period for now is 2000-2016 later to be extended to the past)

#

If anyone is interested please send me a PM on discord, and thanks everyone

#

To the second part of my message, I found something weird while coding an event

#

The set_political_power have the same effect as add , contrary to what it should be

#

Anyone else encountered that?

obtuse condor
#

revise trianon 11/10

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you probably should add some heavy tank licensing if you join germany

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@obtuse condor You like the design?

obtuse condor
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there is no neutral path

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Well...

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That's where you're ever so slightly wrong, sir.

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When I was designing it, my idea was that Hungary would align towards a particular ideology.

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And since Hungary was being ruled by an anti-communist Regent.

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It was either towards the Allies or the Axis.

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Which is why the political and economic focuses are inter-connected.

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However!

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You can turn away from them.

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Which is what the House of Horthy and Crown The King focuses are for.

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Going down your own path.

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Crowning the king or crowning Horthy causes both sides to become angry since they both assumed that you would be grateful for their investment in Hungarian industry.

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Instead, you've crowned the emperor that was ousted from the throne, or crowned a new one, and wish to begin taking the lands that were lost through Trianon.

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Which means you're going to go head to head with Italy and Germany.

obtuse condor
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no option to stay neutral and ignore both factions

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the complaint stands

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Well, when it says court the Axis and Allies.

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It doesn't actually do anything permanent.

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Allow me to elaborate.

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When you start the game.

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You pick whether you will either stay fascist or begin the transition to either non-aligned or democratic.

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Deter the king to stay fascist and prepare the crown for NA/Democratic.

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That pops a spirit that either begins to decrease communism and fascism (prepare the crown) or decreases non-aligned and democracy (deter the king).

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Court the Axis/Allies will most likely be a stepping stone that will cause them to provide a technology boost to industrial techs and let you attract investors.

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And the investors?

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They're a spirit that provides a 10%/15% boost to civilian/military factory development.

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you can stop your ranting, I dont care

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Oh, you could have said.

obtuse condor
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its too early for that shit

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It's almost 10 AM.

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Where do you reside?

obtuse condor
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11 but I need more tee

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Fair enough.

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Regardless, the point is, in its simplest form, that the first 2/3 of the tree is a political game of necessity. Once you're in a strong enough position, you can backstab the Axis/Allies and take your own path.

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there's 13 hungary national focus mods already. you better make a strong case why yours is better

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My case is simply this...

obtuse condor
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not to me to players

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Mine isn't just about Hungary.

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I also have plans to give Yugoslavia, Bulgaria and Romania their own trees.

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That's my case.

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Also...