Cream - Sunshine Of Your Love | Guitar | Page 1

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Hello,
Can someone help me set up my amp to play Cream's Sunshine Of Your Love please?
I have a Fender Mustang LT25 and a Strat SSS
https://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/Original/10001/OM_2311100000_Mustang_LT25_English.pdf

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:29 PM

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Big part of the "woman tone" is turning down the tone knob of your guitar. Well, ideally you'd need a gibson style guitar with two humbuckers and two sets of controls, but depending on your strat circuit you should get reasonably close.

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On the amp, bit of overdrive and lots of mids.

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Try the neck or neck+middle positions, and turn down the respective tone control completely.

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But experiment with which pickup to use.

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:35 PM

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rancid epoch Try the neck or neck+middle positions, and turn down the respective tone control...

neck+ middle = the knob at the middle?

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I have 5 pos selector im using that position 90% of the time

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Neck+middle means the selector switch on position 4.

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Tone control, well, don't know what your wiring is.

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:36 PM

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oh ok, and on the fender mustang lt25 we have amp simulator, with some effects should I set something?

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Some classic marshall model, whatever that is on the lt25. Probably something "Brit" or whatever. No effects, just enough gain and lots of mids. Rest to taste.

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:38 PM

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I've tried few thing 60s fuzz, brit 64 rythm but it seems to heavy

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to fuzzy also for 60s fuzz

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i've also tried "custom" thing

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70s rock for example

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:39 PM

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I'm not really familiar with the amp, I recommend just trying out the various options and listening to what's closest.

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Yes I did that before coming here for help I find it just has nothing to do with the sound of Sunshine of your love 😦

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Brit 64 sounds reasonable, if it's.too heavy, reduce the gain

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:41 PM

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for the brit 64 rythm I have that settings :

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60S UK CLN amp
Gain 1.8
Vol 5.0
Treb 8.1/Mid 6.7/Bass 7.3

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no stomp/no mod/no delay but a rev "plate" lvl 3.8/decay 5.5 /tone 5.5

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:42 PM

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I dont really know the amp, probably needs more mids. Maybe some fuzz before, the sunshine tone is fairly fuzzy

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But I think it's just the a JTM fully cranked

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:44 PM

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jtm ??

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:45 PM

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Marshall.JTM

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Plexi predecessor

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:45 PM

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ah ok

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:46 PM

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I mean, back then he probably cranked all the eq controls, don't think the lt25 works the same way.

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:47 PM

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But then I'm not trying to reproduce 100%, it's impossible, but I just want to make a sound more or less similar, because frankly it's horrible to play this song with a crappy sound xD

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well it's not horrible just doesn't sound right because of my settings

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I play clean 3/4 of the time but for this sound I'd like the right stuff

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:48 PM

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70s rock would be the most fitting amp model I guess.

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Well, large part of the tone is rolling down the tone knob on the guitar. Ideally with humbuckers

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And how he plays

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:49 PM

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I had read that on a SSS you should put the 2knob to 4

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:50 PM

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Well, have you tried it?

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:50 PM

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yeah ofc

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I've tried for hours to find the sound

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 6:51 PM

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Roll it off completely.

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 6:53 PM

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im close of something

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for me there its always too heavy but bass settings on the amp sim is at 2.3

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gain on the amp sim is at 1.5 but overdrive at 4.5

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im prob at the max atm

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i will share an audio

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rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 7:06 PM

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I think it needs more gain actually. The tone on Creams album is rather fuzzy

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 7:15 PM

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More gain on overdrive and amp sim??

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 7:21 PM

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Leave out the od, just on the amp.sim

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 7:22 PM

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I remove the od ??

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Without Overdrive

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oh and also 5 of gain instead of 1.5 on the amp sim

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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Which amp sim?

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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70s rock 🤠

rancid epoch Jul 14, 2025, 7:29 PM

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Try maxing the gain, and, well, just playing like Clapton is where the Real tone is.

humble locust Jul 14, 2025, 7:32 PM

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I'm going back to 5 gain because at 10 it crashes hard and when I turn down the master I feel like I'm losing sound quality
But I think that's as close as I can get in terms of settings after all, as you say, you have to play clapton-style and that's where the most work lies in the end.

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Thanks for your help a last audio record with gain 10

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indigo trench Jul 14, 2025, 8:06 PM

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You need a humbucker to get the tone properly without just outright modeling it(and even then it won't sound correct.) Clapton got the studio tone through a fender champ cranked through likely a 339 or possibly an SG, tone rolled down to about a 3 on the bridge pickup, volume at about a 6 or 7 during the rhythm, full up on solos

orchid haven Jul 14, 2025, 10:45 PM

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@humble locust you do not require a special pickup or guitar. you can play that song with what you have.

orchid haven Jul 14, 2025, 10:45 PM

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humble locust

this sounds fine for working on the timing issues

humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 3:25 AM

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orchid haven this sounds fine for working on the timing issues

yeah its ok I won't do better at the moment but its cool, way better to improve my skills than a clean amp xD

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ima work on my issues thanks for help

rancid epoch Jul 15, 2025, 7:26 AM

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orchid haven <@1249997153464619079> you do not require a special pickup or guitar. you can pl...

Well, this is tone sculpting, innit. The whole point is getting a certain tone from the gear aside from the actual playing itself.

orchid haven Jul 15, 2025, 11:36 AM

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rancid epoch Well, this is tone sculpting, innit. The whole point is getting a certain tone f...

help the person get the tone they need, if you think they need to work on that. the tone is fine.. the person has a tone that is fine to work on the actual issue, which is the rhythm.

humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 12:21 PM

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Yes, but I was working on this track on a clean sound, which isn't very motivating, but fortunately it helped me, otherwise I'd still be on my rotten clean sound. It's not perfect yet, but as you say, I lack rhythm etc., but now I've got a sound that's a bit more motivating to work on

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Thanks you @rancid epoch

indigo trench Jul 15, 2025, 4:23 PM

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humble locust Yes, but I was working on this track on a clean sound, which isn't very motivati...

It sounds like your hand positioning is wrong when you're going down to play the lower notes on the starting riff, after the ba du du du either walk down with your ring middle and index on those three descending notes or use your ring finger on all three, either way pull your hand back and play the note on the low e with your ring so that your index is already hovering over the note on the A

humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 4:44 PM

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Im playing it like that :

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@indigo trench

humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 5:02 PM

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indigo trench Jul 15, 2025, 5:09 PM

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I mean the delay between the 10 on the e and the 8 on the A, it sounds like you're trying to play both with your index or something similar

humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 5:41 PM

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maybe a lack of rythm

orchid haven Jul 15, 2025, 5:42 PM

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humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 5:44 PM

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Ah yes I see I think I even understand why I don't do this rhythm in the beginning I think it comes from my positioning the delay comes from the fact that I change my position I think

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I do the 12 12 10 12 withtout changing position but too much delay to do 12 and 11 on A string

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Ima retry

orchid haven Jul 15, 2025, 5:48 PM

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try just singing or clapping along with the original

humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 5:50 PM

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one that but its not that rythm

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Ok lets try that

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it seems very easy to reproduce while listening but ON THE GUITAR damn, aam I retarded? xD

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when i clap on the beat its seems very easy

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but on the guitar i lost the rythm

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its maybe too fast for me?

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oh i think i know why I will do a draw to explain

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grrr its hard to explain which finger I use

indigo trench Jul 15, 2025, 6:10 PM

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orchid haven

The first time around on the intro it does have two notes at the end, the second time it has one, but Im pretty sure he's just not sliding his hand back at the right time

orchid haven Jul 15, 2025, 6:11 PM

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indigo trench The first time around on the intro it does have two notes at the end, the second...

please direct your assistance to the OP. im not asking how to play this music. thanks

orchid haven Jul 15, 2025, 6:11 PM

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humble locust one that but its not that rythm

your tone is fine. you can start a thread at #1175366926562775050

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"The second time around on the intro it does have two notes at the end" ok. i never said it doesnt. this is an uncessary side-tracked agrument that has nothing to do with what i suggested.

humble locust Jul 15, 2025, 6:12 PM

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I'm happy to make you laugh xD I'm going to create a thread over there with a video I just made

orchid haven Jul 15, 2025, 6:12 PM

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if you are trying to suggest the "& a" present the first time, please feel free and do that

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that is for later

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