I have to choose

[ebon burrow]

Hello guys!
Do you know if there is any difference between the Ibanez Tod10n and the frh10n (except the look) and if the tod10n is like way better or not

[drowsy wharf]

there's no difference other than the inlay on tim's model

basically just paying the signature model tax

[glossy dawn]

its aesthetics.

[teal marsh]

there are differences apparently the mic sounds different but i havent looked into it

electronics are better so the tim henson model might be better

but you can use eq to make some magic happen, clarity and shit i gonna vary tho

[glossy dawn]

they are the same instrument

2 of any of these wont sound identical, because they are guitars and made of natural products

but no.. the 'electronics' arent better..

[glossy dawn]

@ebon burrow you can read about the differences from someone that has experience with both here https://www.reddit.com/r/polyphia/comments/18b4t7e/ibanez_frh10n_vs_ibanez_tod10n_tim_henson/

[ebon burrow]

Tysm and the neck is the same ? I don’t understand Ibanez graphics 😓

[glossy dawn]

please mentally remove the paint, and inlays and pickup

at this point, the wood is similar

i say similar, because, these are made from the same pattern

and finished, by people, hand sanding

the guitars are the same

they get finished differently

one gets inlays

[ebon burrow]

Yeah yeah I know but maybe Tim wanted an other type of neck, like a thinner one ?

[glossy dawn]

they have similar pickup systems. likely the same piezo elements

[glossy dawn]

please read

[glossy dawn]

the instruments are the same

if you want a thinner neck, these have the same necks

you wont play either and think "i need a thinner neck"

these are nylon string guitars, but more like the "fusion" ones

if you know what you want? play both and see if this feels like you want

otherwise, the necks are the same

you either want the aesthetics of the henson one, or you dont

i dont think you wouldnt notice/care about the electronics, because, neither is really inerently "better"

its likely the same pickup element and the henson has a fishman preamp

i wouldnt spend the extra money for a fishman preamp, personally, having played many fishman preamps and non-fishman preamps

i would much prefer a simple, actual acoustic nylon string

if you want the sound of a nylon string and the feel of not a nylon string, i suggest looking at the cordoba fusion models. most companies make some kind of 14 fret joint, rounder radius, more narrow spaced acoustic/electric shapes nylon string neck/build, now

[teal marsh]

they are not... Tim uses Fishman electronics and the normal ibanez doesnt, its different

i owned a tod10n and i notice a difference

[glossy dawn]

up here is the document i shared with the differences in the electronics #1326531668466466836 message

[glossy dawn]

its not in the physical build. any 2 TOD10N's can have the neck shaped a bit different or feel a bit different, because of manufacturing and wood being a natural product

neither is inherently "better"

the cost of the tin henson one is mostly in the name tim henson

and the extra work on the inlays

by all means, no one is saying "these are identical".. there's tangible, notable reasons why the henson one is more $$.. but i do not think its worth the extra money. and if someone plays both and disagrees, or just wants the black on with the inlays, thats fine