Cheap Valve Amp

[mint latch]

I’m looking for getting a valve amp 50W+ and I don’t want it to be expensive and I want to get some good tones out of it.

[hallow kraken]

why the need for +50W?

i've a 50 W mesa which is so loud, its unusable

I also have A VOX AC 30, a peavey classic 30 and a Dr Z carmen ghia (18W)

Ive gigged all of them, the Dr Z is by far the easiest 18W to play and to crank

[mint latch]

General use and sometimes I play in my School and there’s No way i could connect to speakers and etc

I was thinking od the boss katana 50 or even 100

Or a DSL40CR

[olive nacelle]

Katana is not a valve amp

[mint latch]

I know but you can make it Sound like one

[hallow kraken]

no, you cant

[sharp sky]

I would look into a used Peavey ValveKing. 250 or so.

[soft escarp]

Yeah you can make any amp sound like a valve amp. The difference is so minute that its been done since the Line6 spider

[hallow kraken]

I'm sorry, I absolutely disagree, well my ears do any how 😉 . the newer modellers like quad and Axe FX come pretty damn close(I own a quad and have had the Axe), but a line 6 spider or a boss katana don't. But, hey all our ears work different and if you think they sound the same, great

[soft escarp]

Yeah i kid tube amps sound slightly better

[hallow kraken]

Then why offer the advice? its obviously not true. Help new players rather than misinform them.

[soft escarp]

But like Solid state amps still are completely usuable

[mint latch]

I have now a blackstar id core 20 v2

And i need something bigger with enough power for the Stage as I’m progressing

I’m thinking of a good for value even used combo or a head with 4x12’s

Need like 40-50W+

At least

[soft escarp]

Get a joyo

[empty timber]

@mint latch what's your budget

You can grab a 88w egnater tweaker head for around 450 to 550

And you can grab a 4x12 for less than that if you look around

The marshall 1960a lead cabs sell for 400 and under used

This is all used prices though just to add

[hallow kraken]

Valve amps are much louder on a volume per watt, Ive a mesa stiletto ace which is a 50W, drowns the drummer out by the time i get to 2 on the master volume, I've a 30W Peavey classic again, never more than 1/4-1/3 power, finally 18W Dr Z which i can get to halfwayish

[ripe pendant]

Marshall DSL40cr

[ripe pendant]

You can in a mix 🤷‍♂️

Fender bassbreaker 30r

[hallow kraken]

30-watt tube combo amplifier

[hallow kraken]

ok, sure, solid state sounds like a tube amp

[ripe pendant]

In a mix, most people could be fooled

[hallow kraken]

ok

[ripe pendant]

Sorry that i hurt your feelings

[hallow kraken]

No, not at all, I'm agreeing with you, i'm now questioning myself on the £1800 Dr. Z head I recently bought, when in actual fact, I should have just got a solid state peavey for £150

[ripe pendant]

Yes a cheap solid state is the same as an expensive tube amp. That is what i meant

[hallow kraken]

glad we're on the same page

[ripe pendant]

Ok boomer

[hallow kraken]

boomer?

[ripe pendant]

Ok

Boomer

[hallow kraken]

i think i'm missing the cultural reference

[ripe pendant]

Have a good day

[hallow kraken]

I wish i could now, could have been £1650 better off

[ripe pendant]

I said ok, boomer

Do you think hand wiring has better tone?

I find that a mix of hand wiring and machine wiring has a nice vintage tone

[hallow kraken]

hmmm tbh, I dunno

the only hand wired one i have is the Dr Z,

[ripe pendant]

You could have saved money by not paying out the ass for boutique lol

[hallow kraken]

the mesa sounds good

[hallow kraken]

but, when you get to a certain age, you dont mind, as long as its something you want

i mean, when i was 20,

1800 was a lot, now i'm nearer 50 its not so much

[trail moon]

f you want something cheap, the micro dark is hybrid with the tube pre-amp and it's 20W. doesn't quite meet your 50w and it's not full valve, but they sound decent for the price.

[ripe pendant]

There is also the joyo 20w hybrids. They have 2 channels. XL series has footswitch too

[empty timber]

just do a egnater tweaker

extremely cheap and they are all tube

[hallow kraken]

I had a dual terror for a while and it was a riot

[ripe pendant]

single channel is the thing i don't like about the dark terror

i think a marshall dsl20 would be a great buy

[trail moon]

Yea it's not perfect, but for the price point (and a few pedals) it'd be a nice setup. I've got the terror stamp myself and it sounds pretty good.

[sharp sky]

Tweakers are nice.

[empty timber]

yeah the 88 is my favourite

[sharp sky]

I am looking at a 40 with a new transformer. I do not need it, but looking hard.

[empty timber]

the kt88 tubes in the 88 make it so much heavier tone wise

[empty timber]

40s are nice but the 88s are leagues better to my ears

but im a high gain guy

[sharp sky]

yeah I like gain too, but no need for the 88. Hell I really dont need the 40.

but I like cleans as well. Used to like metal, but that was long ago.

i have a Peavey for gain.

[empty timber]

the 88 sounds better than any peavey ive heard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXpSnHunsE&t=277s

[sharp sky]

they are nice. I will stick with my JSX. It works for me.

I have not seen that clip of an Egnater.

[empty timber]

what do you think of it?

[sharp sky]

sounds good.

[mint latch]

600-700