mac-os🍎

[formal nimbus]

yeah i'm in login screen and can change settings and such

[golden hamlet]

For crossover:

1. Download the native installer from https://pathofexile2.com/download
2. Buy/download crossover
3. Set up windows 10/11 bottle for Crossover
4. Enable D3DMetal and MSync + high resolution mode (optional)
5. Run the installer, download the files
6. Start the game. It will crash
7. Go to ~/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile/production_Config.ini -> Open with TextEdit -> Change renderer_type=DirectX12.
8. Start the game again.

All this can be also found in wiki for POE1 (same process basically).

[severe compass]

My PoE2 froze and when i try to reopen now says it disconnected from the update server before the update was completed

[severe compass]

ran the packcheck and now i'm in

my bad the client was offline it was not a problem on my side, just a coincidence lol

getting paranoid here on the expectation to play

[fossil dock]

Oh... My family took me to Lyon... I start only after two hours from beginig

[golden hamlet]

Well, the first one who manages to run it - report the specs and framerate 😀

[sinful meteor]

got it working last night, woke up to "could not overwrite executable with new patched executable. please make sure that pathofexile.exe or pathofexile.tmp are not still running" on installer.

[formal nimbus]

my install on crossover seems p stable rn so will report back on the stats. gonna try and get in right at 11 inshallah

[narrow mesa]

Do you guys trying to login see An unexpected disconnection ocurred ? Or you are in a queue?

[formal nimbus]

nah queue went down a lil bit ago

ostensibly they will boot everyone at some point and then the true queue will start

[narrow mesa]

Okey, so I see that message, do you guys know what is it about?

[formal nimbus]

you just can't log in yet

doesn't mean anything in particular

[narrow mesa]

Well, but it is definitely something else than being in a queue

[formal nimbus]

the queue isn't up yet my friend

unexpected disconnection is the standard message you get when you can't log in :0

[dim quest]

Im almost sure poe2 is available for mac in gforce now in 2 mins

[merry orchid]

well...

[livid mantle]

any news?

[formal nimbus]

"We're doing some last minute database upgrades to try help handle the overwhelming amount of Exiles getting ready to LOGIN to Path of Exile 2. We're trying to get this done ASAP, but it may cause a short delay in the servers going live."

[wet nymph]

dumb question while we wait, how do you get retina resolution in kegworks? it's coming up at half resolution. [Answer found, pasted in thread]

[slate galleon]

guys i can't access the game (login screen) .. game keeps crashing. i'm using cross-over

how do i fix this ?

[drowsy warren]

#mac-os🍎 message

[wet nymph]

any messages or anything when it crashes?

[slate galleon]

no just crashes

doesn't even open the client .. you see the borders of the windows for a couple of seconds, then it disappears.

[drowsy warren]

follow the thread i linked

[slate galleon]

okay ! thanks !

do i have to delete it altogether from steam ?

[autumn tree]

This game runs on MAC !!

[fossil dock]

Is it work?

[slate galleon]

what do you mean ?

[autumn tree]

I didnt know Games focus on attempting to run for mac's

[balmy laurel]

Nobody can login in yet to actually fully check but so far , yes, it appears to be working

[livid mantle]

anybody managed to run login screen with whisky?

[lilac trail]

Yeap. There is a pinned message on how to resolve that error

[atomic herald]

poe servers are down

[lilac trail]

You don’t have to remove the steam install unless you are running out of disk space.

Your crash is likely because you have the wrong renderer set in config.ini

[lilac trail]

Do NOT use Whisky. The performance is horrible

[atomic herald]

no one can login yet i think

cant even reach the homepage

[lilac trail]

POE 2 EA does not have a native Mac client. The POE native Mac client is broken - hence the use of WINE based apps to run both POE and POE 2

[lilac trail]

Thanks for this info ! Very handy. You can also run higher resolutions than your monitor is capable of by using BetterDisplay app

[livid mantle]

any spesific settings I should make while waiting for servers to open?

[peak garnet]

is crossover worth buying?

[wet nymph]

most stuff i've tried works in whisky, gptk, kegworks or whatever

but it might work better in crossover?

[sturdy scarab]

also is it just... not on geforce now rn

even tho it said it would be

[hollow elbow]

it's not on Geforce Now

[formal nimbus]

imo yes? poe 1 works way better on crossover than the standard mac or steam version

[sturdy scarab]

fun

[formal nimbus]

(you can also put on an eyepatch if you're struggling for funds)

[hollow elbow]

https://x.com/NVIDIAGFN/status/1865104143590846475

🌩️ NVIDIA GeForce NOW (@NVIDIAGFN) on X

@alexmoise_x Hi there, it's in the onboarding phase. Once complete, it will be released.

Twitter · Dec 6, 2024, 6:40 PM

[peak garnet]

don't mind buying crossover if it runs it better. picked up a new macbook few days ago. Thanks for info

[sturdy scarab]

nearby i see

[peak garnet]

was trying out this guide here https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Guide:Path_of_Exile_on_Mac_using_Windows_Client#Kegworks_(KWS)_Setup but if crossover runs it better then I'll do that, servers are down so I'm stuck atm

[wet nymph]

Only 64GB? Gratz on the machine, and let us know the framerates

[peak garnet]

thanks and yeah.. prices suck lol

[lilac trail]

There is no material difference in performance but Crossover is a little more friendly GUI wise

You miss the CO Cyber Monday sale but TOM23 will get you 20% off

[formal nimbus]

performance was pretty good on crossover until i got booted

was running like, 45-50 fps

on low settings ish

[safe violet]

on which mac?

[formal nimbus]

m2 pro mac mini

servers went down semi predictably

[peak garnet]

thank you, appreciate the code

[lilac trail]

Looks like the launch is going as well as the preload did last night

[peak garnet]

how much was it off for bf? I ended up picking up geforce now ultimate 9.99 offer for 3 months

[fierce birch]

70fps high settings with fsr and dx12 on m3 (whisky)

[lilac trail]

It was 70% off - so about $22US for 1 year

[peak garnet]

that's crazy good

[rugged ridge]

I login before dc but the graphics seem too sharp. Is this normal?

[lilac trail]

Yeap - that’s why you only buy on Cyber Monday

[formal nimbus]

there's a sharpness slider in the settings

[rugged ridge]

ty

[junior sail]

I though poe wasn't running on macos just yet?

[lilac trail]

POE 2 EA does not. POE does - but it is broken

[fierce birch]

it runs its not a native client

[junior sail]

Ah gotcha

[lilac trail]

As october says - POE 2 EA runs via one of the WINE based apps outlined in a wiki post (which is a pinned message).

POE also runs this way because both the Mac standalone and Mac steam clients are busted.

[silent moss]

can anyone open the client? tried to before now cant

[floral charm]

i suppose i can just use free crossover trial until geforce now gets it sorted

[slate galleon]

is there a config.ini on the steam version ? because i couldn't find it on the steam version.

[formal nimbus]

currently being patched

[lilac trail]

Or free all the time via Kegworks, portingkit or GPTK

I thought they said they had synthetically tested a million users at launch 🤔 Why so many issues found last minute 🤨

[merry orchid]

does anyone know the performance on m3 pro's?

[wet nymph]

At least in the Kegworks it's in Documents/My Games/Path of Exile 2

[wet nymph]

One million and seven users tried to log in

[lilac trail]

How dare those extra 7 people mess it up for everyone else 🤣

[lilac trail]

R U using the steam version or one of the WINE based ones ?

[floral charm]

in theory, practice and theory are the same. in practice, they aren't

[peak garnet]

@lilac trail other than crossover being more GUI friendly, is there a difference in how the game will run fps wise between it and the pinned wiki link?

[slate galleon]

steam version ON wine based crossover.

[lilac trail]

That is true but see their last update - they had to add more shards to the DB - that should not have been required if you had simulated 1m users logging in already. Testing would have already told them how many they would need ….then you add at least 10% to be safe

[fierce birch]

You can’t simulate 1M until you get 1M, period

[lilac trail]

Why - I mean you can - but the standalone client will be much more straight forward.

The steam folders will likely be in a different place to where they are outlined on the wiki. Find out where your config.ini file for POE 1 is. It will be similar for POE 2 I assume but I don’t really know since I don’t use Steam I’m afraid

[fierce birch]

i work at AWS, you are the troll

[lilac trail]

You can setup testing to simulate many millions of users with software - commercial or your own home baked ones. Used to do it with Kubernetes all the time

[slate galleon]

this is how i am accessing the files, and couldn't find the files there.

[lilac trail]

Precisely

[fierce birch]

scalability

[stable aurora]

i tried linking steam and it doesnt detect the game here either

[slate galleon]

isn't it supposed to be somewhere here ?

[lilac trail]

Then you should know you can certainly simulate a million or more users in all sorts of load testing.

[stable aurora]

id try crossover but dont think my m1 mac can handle it well

[boreal delta]

Yo, anybody who says scalability issues are easily preventable by smoke testing can't be serious. 🤔 It's a necessary part of the pre-release process, but in no way a guarantee, come on.

[fierce birch]

you can simulate, but it’s never reality. even with shadowing between system real traffic.

[lilac trail]

No. That’s just the executable and log files

[lilac trail]

Look in the documents folder. Is there a My Games folder and a Path of Exile 2 folder inside that ?

[fierce birch]

looks like they have ID collisions with high concurrency, maybe they did not account for that in the test for example. as character could login

[slate galleon]

ohh yess .. i found it ! lemme try the method now and report back.

thanks !!

[fierce birch]

they are laughing at you right now 🤣

it’s up again

[formal nimbus]

[lilac trail]

I don’t think so. Anyone involved in load testing systems will know that whatever GGG did it was not testing 1m concurrent users on a database under load conditions.

I highly question what infrastructure GGG have in place for their servers. It’s seems flaky

[wet nymph]

Seems solid enough to me. By the way Act 12 Piety is overtuned, watch out for that slam which vaals all your gear

(or maybe that's the database vaaling all my gear, who knows?)

[lilac trail]

No-one is saying a smoke test will prevent issues - but testing WILL show you where the bottle neck is, especially if you are driving 1m concurrent logins. Heck my team showed database issues in a real time transaction processing database by simulating less than 50k of users and we were aiming for 200k of users ….

[livid mantle]

Does these settings work on poe client if I run the game thru steam and set steam's adv settings like this?

[lilac trail]

Not by themselves. You also need to make sure the renderer_type in config.ini is set to DX12. Otherwise your game will either be a black screen, then a black screen and crash

I believe @slate galleon is using the same setup

[hybrid edge]

Ok

Who do I need to harass to get a stream and feedback for Crossover or Whiskey going?

Which son of a bitch is currently playing and not sharing with the rest of us?

@lilac trail You holding out on us?

[formal nimbus]

aint nobody playin brother

shit's borked entirely

[hybrid edge]

Don't say that

[formal nimbus]

i was playing for 5 min and putting on mtx and got booted

[hybrid edge]

Is it borked for us, or for everyone?
One is better than the other

[formal nimbus]

everyone

servers

[random flax]

Just installed steam via kegworks. Steam won't launch on open, and the steam app size keeps increasing. Looks like it is downloading something in the background. Anyone seen this behavior with steam and kegworks before?

[proud igloo]

This thread has updates on what's happening: https://fixvx.com/pathofexile/status/1865098006934229066

[hybrid edge]

Ah that's fine

Thank God

[formal nimbus]

for what it's worth, the performance on crossover seems super solid

[balmy laurel]

Im getting a "disconnected from patching server before patching is completed" error

[formal nimbus]

ye it's down

they fixing issues

[balmy laurel]

i assume they have released updates since yesterday?

[hybrid edge]

I actually believe this to my core

[merry orchid]

is this ggg's error 37 moment?

[wet nymph]

yeah there's an update

[hybrid edge]

According to their feed, yeah

[merry orchid]

is this the beginning of the end

[hybrid edge]

If you pay for the supporter pack on the website, will the steam version work?

[formal nimbus]

if you didn't expect this to be the case you were coping extremely hard

this is par for the course

[hybrid edge]

Ofc

[formal nimbus]

ye when you get EA they give you a steam key

[hybrid edge]

Lemme know when you boys get in, and set up a stream. I wanna see everything render.

[silent moss]

Anyone playing on m1?

M1 pro*

[lilac trail]

For those who are wondering what a shard is (no … not that shard) here is a good run down

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/vcCT8YnsNR

[pulsar radish]

anyone else buy directly from the website and now the standalone says you dont have access and need to purchase?

[sinful meteor]

Could you direct me to the specific message?

[lilac trail]

#mac-os🍎 message

[pulsar radish]

lol

[hybrid edge]

Are server congested or just plain down?

[wet nymph]

Amsterdam queue is draining. There's a lot of rage at Texas in the other channel tho

[rugged ridge]

what's the best in-game graphics settings to play? Anything we can tweak?

[wet nymph]

that's prolly gonna depend on your gpu

[lilac trail]

#old-game-news message

[balmy laurel]

yes me

[peak garnet]

it's downloading pretty fast

[balmy laurel]

mine was about 38 mb/s yesterday

im in the queue and counting down

[lilac trail]

Just be aware it might fail. If that happens just restart the download again. It will be faster on the second or third time after restart but it should finish. Also do not forget to set the renderer_type to DX12

Download does not start where it failed.

[peak garnet]

thanks @lilac trail , currently on "7. Once finished select the Advanced tab option on the Kegworks menu that should appear. Select the Direct3D to Metal option on Configuration tab."

gonna see how it runs, if it runs like crap I'll buy crossover

[fossil dock]

It wroks!

[lilac trail]

Should run fine but in all fairness POE and POE 2 are different. If your graphics resolution seems off make sure your monitor is set correctly. A few people have had an issue with getting the graphics right. Also if you have to use high res setting option there was a post this afternoon on how to do that on Kegworks

[lilac trail]

Woo hoo ! You are using Crossover yes ? What FPS r u getting ?

[fossil dock]

Crossover, M3 max 64GB

[merry orchid]

fps?

[fossil dock]

60 in first location

but graphics looks not good

ok without limit 90 fps

[lilac trail]

Frames per second

[lilac trail]

Guess you need to fiddle with the settings in the graphics section 🤔

[merry orchid]

lol no i know i wanted to learn the number

i got an m3 pro with 16gig memory :/

[peak garnet]

@lilac trail seems pretty obvious but want to double check, but in this drop down I only have the option on the screenshot and "packcheck.exe" and "PathofExile_x64.exe" choose poe_64 one?

[balmy laurel]

im in. m1 pro, kegworks

fps is shit so far

[fossil dock]

Ohhh sharpnes.....

[wet nymph]

m1 max, kegworks, maybe 45 fps at retina res, could be worse I guess

[fossil dock]

Why crossow can't switch sound output

[fossil dock]

Do you use hi res mod?

[wet nymph]

not mod, just registry setting

but yeah, hi res

[fossil dock]

Hmmm

Ohhhhh.... I reboot botle to HD and now again in 9k queue....

[balmy laurel]

uggh got booted out

back of the 10,000 queue

[merry orchid]

isn't it also funny that the game's not on gfn

[fossil dock]

Oh....

[stable aurora]

am i doing this right? trying to dl from steam on crossover

i have more than 12gb for sure, but idk how to change cause i cant click that cog wheel button

[fossil dock]

As for me raw client without steam - better

[stable aurora]

so just on crossover? couldnt seem to find it

[fossil dock]

I mean - use standalone client

from poe site

[stable aurora]

oh thanks ill try it, when the site is working

[fossil dock]

with HRD mode look awessome, but GPU 100 C

[balmy laurel]

in your retina instructions - what is the "correct resolution"?

hmm servers offline again

[peak garnet]

dammit I need an unlock code and I'm not getting the email

finally in queue

not bad! getting 143 fps, frames dropped when I took the ss

[lilac trail]

none of those. There should have been a poe2 executable.
How did you originally start the install

[lilac trail]

What resolution do you have. Have you played with the settings in the game as well ?

[lilac trail]

Which app are r running thru

[peak garnet]

installed it via the pinned post kegworks?

haven't messed with settings

[peak garnet]

is there any settings I need to change specifically?

[lilac trail]

Is that resolution S high as your monitor can go ?
You might want to fiddle with the sharpness bar.
Anisotropic at 8x might be a performance bit. Maybe he’s 4x but if are getting 143fps at current settings I’d leave it alone

[peak garnet]

gotcha, I can't change resolution for some reason

sharpness is at 15%

[lilac trail]

The resolution comes from your system. Check the display resolution on your mac in System settings. It take it from that.

[merry orchid]

@peak garnet - you're not running crossover, right?

[peak garnet]

ah yeah that's the default res, I can go up to 3456 x 2234 but I'm sure at the cost of fps, it looks really good right now

[peak garnet]

nope

[balmy laurel]

Anything anyone would suggest to improve FPS? I think ive lowered everything? I'm only getting 15 FPS. and thats if im doing nothing

i think i had better (but not much better) FPS before i turned on RetinaMode

[vocal ferry]

how long did it take you to get the email?

[stable aurora]

15fps on m1 pro? imagine what my m1 base would get

think ill just wait for geforce now ig

[peak garnet]

took about 6-7 min?

[vocal ferry]

ive been waiting for 20 minutes now lol

[dusty hedge]

Did you just keep retrying the login till it sent the code or?

[dusty hedge]

Oh, I see. Nevermind. Thanks anyways!

[peak garnet]

yeah, it took a bit, probably because site is still not loading me

[lilac trail]

This is heavily dependant on both in game config and amount of ram on their system. The more ram the better. I wouldn’t be waiting on GFN

[lilac trail]

How much ram do you have ?

[stable aurora]

i have 8gb :/

[balmy laurel]

16gb

[lilac trail]

Yeah - you are not going to have a good experience. GFN would be better

[lilac trail]

I’d expect your FPS to be better with that amount of memory. Maybe reboot your system 🤷🏼‍♂️

Or turn off the retina mode

Or both

[balmy laurel]

yeah i just did turn it off

game looks a lot worse with it off

but restart is a good call. will try that

[lilac trail]

Why is your resolution to to 50% ?

[balmy laurel]

because it says lower resolutions usually give better performance

im back to around 30 fps now. but its not very stable

[peak garnet]

game is not using that much ram about 10 gigs

[frozen herald]

Is there anything in particular I need to do to get PoE2 working on crossover?

Every time I launch it it just insta crashes

[balmy laurel]

have you edited the config file?

[frozen herald]

no, what should I do for that

[balmy laurel]

edit the production config file and change the renderer to DirectX12

[frozen herald]

Bless

Is it just under program files?

[balmy laurel]

i can never remember. i just search it

production_Config.ini is what it's called

something like that

[finite lily]

So what performance is anyone with a base M3 getting?

[lilac trail]

No. It is under Documents -> My Games -> Path of Exile

[frozen herald]

Ahhhh okay I was gonna say I couldn't find it at all

[lilac trail]

The file location is also outlined on the wiki I think

change to renderer_type=DX12

[balmy laurel]

except you need to type in full

DirectX12

i made that mistake with poe1

[lilac trail]

Ah yes - thanks. My bad 🙄

[finite lily]

on PoE 2 on Apple Silicon

Anyone else stuck like this? I own it on Steam.

[lilac trail]

M1 with 16GB. That might be the limit you can reach 🤔
Time for a new system with 32 or 64gb of memory - just in time for xmas !

[lilac trail]

Stuck how ?

[finite lily]

I subscribe to GeForce Now and own the game on steam, but GFN won't recognize that I own it.

It says mark as owned, then syncs with steam, to no avail

[safe violet]

really weird - im trying to log in on the client connected to gfn and says my account doesn't own the game despite it being synced with my ggg account and steam

anyone know whats up

[lilac trail]

Yes - it isn’t on GFN yet. They said it would be available but there are earlier posts in this sub which said it is not.

[gusty epoch]

Try this fix I found online:
"when it asks you to sync, select NOT NOW, and then select YES, CONTINUE on the ownership prompt."

[knotty patrol]

Oooh. That worked. Thanks!

[stable aurora]

pause

PAUSE I SAY

says id otn have the game

[knotty patrol]

#mac-os🍎 message

[hollow elbow]

it works now

[stable aurora]

Imma kiss yall

[lilac trail]

Awesome. Thnxs for the solution 👍

[peak garnet]

try it out on geforce now and I get this 😐

[lilac trail]

I thought you were using Kegworks ?

Someone made a mention of the wiki solutions on Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/macgaming/s/EiIhjuVYyU

[peak garnet]

@lilac trail I had got the black friday offer for geforce now last week, but since poe wasn't showing up on gfnow i went through the pinned guide in case gfn would take even longer

[formal nimbus]

overall impressions of crossover gaming after a handful of hours and act 1 down: pretty smooth gameplay on m2 pro. a little bit of stuttering that went away when i switched around some settings. not sure how it will perform in massive laggy environments like high particle effects and stuff but really pleased with stability and temps are not bad with fan management

this is on standalone client

[lilac trail]

Yeah - it is good to have backup options 👍

[peak garnet]

yep, and it's 9.99 for first 3 months, Kegworks has been running pretty good so will cancel gfn if it continues7

[finite lily]

Should I enable D3DMetal?

[lilac trail]

I think GFN - any tier - is a good solution for those who have a system with not a lot of memory. Those with 8GB specifically. Even 16GB seems not to be adequate if you are looking for more than 30FPS.

Unless GFN start allowing 3rd party apps like PoB and APT then the WINE based apps will still be better as you can use the Windows versions of both with Kegworks and probably the others (maybe not portingkit. It does not like more than one set of WINE processes running)

[lilac trail]

On Apple Silicon ? Yes

Apparently you can play half naked characters - https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/mh1JNyTvXi

[jagged flax]

hello. question, is there a difference between the steam and standalone client in poe2? I dont know much, but i want to know if i should buy on steam or website based on mac performance. Or does steam allow the client to be used separetely?

i was just reading the guide, and was confused about the exe

[frozen herald]

Ah does anyone have a solution for this error, running PoE2 on crossover?

[sturdy scarab]

#mac-os🍎 message here

got it running myself- everything seems fine, well, except the giant black rectangles flickering across the screen. pretty hard to beat the bloated miller when you cant see him.

[frozen herald]

incredible ty

[sturdy scarab]

any help would be much appreciated

[proud igloo]

Looking like geometry triangles or screen-aligned squares of void?

[sturdy scarab]

the latter

[proud igloo]

Could be something funny about how the renderer works on the unholy stack of mac translators, fairly early tho so sounds like you don't have much chance of breaking things with skills or gear.

[amber dagger]

kegworks, portingkit, or GPTK?

about to buy the game

if one has working HDR, I'll go with that

[sturdy scarab]

mostly resolved with some resolution adjustments.

[lilac trail]

The wiki guide only covers installation via the standalone client. You can setup Steam within Crossover, or any of the other apps mentioned. After that you would need to install the game within the steam bottle. Others here have done that and may be able to say how to do so. It’s personal preference what you use. It has been reported that the standalone performance is better than going through steam.

[lilac trail]

Send a screenshot. Easier to troubleshoot

[lilac trail]

HDR ?

[amber dagger]

high dynamic range

3rd from the bottom

[lilac trail]

Don’t know what that means - zao might or someone else

[proud igloo]

Is that possible to enable on actually-HDR monitors on Windows?

[amber dagger]

HDR often works nomally in proton

but I'm not familar with these mac tools

[proud igloo]

HDR rendering exceeds the usual 0-1 levels in colour you have in SDR rendering by allowing some pixels to be way brighter.
With a HDR monitor and software that is aware of it, that can actually be properly displayed.

[amber dagger]

if someone with a macbook pro 14 or 16 could try HDR, I'd appreciate it

the built-in display is really good at HDR

still waiting for the sign-up email

[proud igloo]

On whether it could survive the whole path from game to display in this kind of environment? I'd be greatly surprised, but hey.

[lilac trail]

So isn’t this a function of the display capability of the system itself, not the WINE apps ?

[amber dagger]

D3DMetal would have to translate it correctly, and expose its availability

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/diablo-4-for-mac/172539/14

apparently in D4 it kinda works

[proud igloo]

The game likely queries the graphics API and/or "Windows" to tell if it's supported by the display; so everyone along the way have to play ball.

[jagged flax]

if i buy it on steam, can i still log in through the standalone client?

my account is linked

[lilac trail]

GPTK 1.1 did not have ray tracing or AVX support. That means that none of the WINE apps, including Crossover would likely provide support right now.

GPTK 2.0b3 does have ray tracing and AVX but there are number of caveats.

portingkit is not using 2.0b3. I believe Kegworks does. GPTK will of course. To use it on GPTK you also need to be running Sequoia as the OS.
Crossover preview has it but you need a license to access that. You can use the latest stable release of Crossover+CXPatcher to get GPTK 2.0b3. You could use a two week trial to test it.
Try Kegworks first. It’s free so why not. As that article says - your frame rate is going to tank I suspect. I can try it this weekend since I have an Apple Studio 27” and an M1 Max with 64GM of memory if no-one else tests first.

[amber dagger]

hdr != ray tracing

but good to know on portingkit not using 2.0b3

[peak garnet]

can't tick HDR here either

[amber dagger]

still no sign up email 😦

well I tried protonmail and it went though right away

[lavish yacht]

anyone has recommended settings for M2 Pro? seems like I can't go beyond 40 fps.

[peak garnet]

are you using gfnow ? if so, if you change your gfnow settings to balanced you can tick HDR, does look a bit better

[amber dagger]

nah I'm cooking the M1 Max

[peak garnet]

[amber dagger]

FSR really removes a lot of detail

NIS looks nosier but better imo

[peak garnet]

yeah

[gilded summit]

wait is there no poe2 standalone mac client?

[amber dagger]

gonna need to do the thermal pad mod

[hybrid edge]

Anyone using Crossover or Whisky wanna stream, I want to know if it works on a M1

[fossil dock]

it works with poe1 but you need really strong mac

[hybrid edge]

No one cares about poe1 chump. We’ve moved on, old man. You so old.

[balmy laurel]

No

At least not for EA

[merry orchid]

same question

couldn't get past this this morning

[merry orchid]

solved with this post from reddit, in case someone else encounters the same issue!

[inland yacht]

how to play with crossover?

[golden hamlet]

Pinned message. Same process

[unkempt onyx]

Hey playing on Macbook air with m2 chip. Whenever i go to an undiscovered area like in the fog of the mini map it freezes my game, drops to 1 fps or less. else is normally ok. Anyone else have this issue?

I am using kegworks

[silent moss]

I am on an m1 pro chip and has been working fine for me

[unkempt onyx]

DirectX12?

[silent moss]

yep

I just followed the wiki

[unkempt onyx]

this one?

[unkempt onyx]

or this one?

[silent moss]

this one

[lilac trail]

This is covered in both a pinned post and the wiki post.

First rule of thumb CHECK PINNED MESSAGES. It will save a lot of time and questions.

[lilac trail]

There is an app called BetterDisplay. If a monitor supports HDR but you do not know how to turn it (I don’t) on BD has a toggle to do so. The app is free. I imagine it would be grayed out if monitor doesn’t support it.

[narrow mesa]

Could not overwrite executable with new patched executable. Please make sure that PathOfExile.exe or PathOfExile.tmp are not still running. If necessary, you may need to reboot your computer.
What to do with this?

[lilac trail]

Read … the …. pinned … messages. It should be the 4th one there.

[narrow mesa]

I did, but maybe I did something wrong, but it doesnt help. Nevermind I did a typo

[proud igloo]

I was curious if the checkbox ungreys and works at all on proper Windows with a monitor that has HDR enabled.
It does.

[calm flame]

is the game out on mac aswell?

[lilac trail]

No

[calm flame]

oh is this channel for poe1?

[proud igloo]

It's universal, the enthusiast exiles here run the PC version of PoE2 on macs via various wrapping software.

[unique nest]

Not sure if GGG will make a macOS poe2 for steam

[hybrid edge]

Anyone here on M1 /M2 (not max) wanna stream some gameplay for me?

[hybrid edge]

You call it wrapping software, I call it nerd magic.

@pseudo harbor @lilac trail What’s our status gentlemen? I hope you haven’t abandoned the cause. Speak now brothers.

[merry orchid]

i'm using m2 pro w/ 16gig ram. the performance is not great, shitty graphics & ~55fps

can stream if you want.

[hybrid edge]

I would love to, when you have a chance ping me.
You say performance isn't great and yet you have 55 fps.
55 fps is excellent, no?
Does it dip below 30?

[merry orchid]

i apologize - meant to type 45. i will whenever i get back online

[lilac trail]

I’m waiting till they iron out the bugs in the first few days. I’ve also heard lots of whispers that it is basically like playing ruthless. If that is the case I will not be playing for long. That’s not my idea of fun.

[lilac trail]

What’s wrong with 45FPS. The native Mac standalone topped out at 55-60 at most.
Some players have reported getting over 140FPS with Kegworks. How much memory does your system have ?

[proud igloo]

I'd recommend giving the game a try yourself. Might be your cup of tea, might not.

[hybrid edge]

What's a lottos?

[merry orchid]

in my opinion it doesn't justify getting rid of the input lag and whatnot you'll get from using GFN. i'm using kegworks and i have no idea how they're getting over 140fps lmao. have been playing with all the settings yesterday and this morning.

[merry orchid]

well, to be honest, never tried getting EVERYTHING on the lowest setting possible so that might be the way to go

[lilac trail]

typo. fixed

[hybrid edge]

What's Ruthless?

I can't parse your sentence

[potent tide]

canyone else can't change resolution?

[swift chasm]

Anyone managed to get the game going on a m1 with 8gb ram? I can manage to get to login screen with around 30 fps, but i would like to know how it runs in game before i buy acces 😛

[swift chasm]

Have you tried changing it from the config file? 🙂

[lilac trail]

You will not get above 30FPS with only 8GB of memory, even if you have everything set to lowest values. The free tier of GFN might be a better experience than the standalone client but for GFN you need a decent internet connection and preferably wired not wireless.

[merry orchid]

also, based on my up-until-act2-hardcore experience, it is really ruthless v2.0. item drop rate is very, very low in my experience

[lilac trail]

GGG always do this to be honest. Then they bump things up based on feedback. Even in POE the campaign drops very little. It better improve though.

[unkempt onyx]

I am on a M2 with 8G, i would not play the game personally on these settings. Only reason i bought is because I fly home to my windows pc in about a week so will need the key anyway.

the fps isnt the issue its more that it freezes a lot for me, maybe solveable but I dont really care that much.

[next echo]

what do?

ig this

https://tenor.com/view/poe-path-of-exile-login-play-poe-login-gif-26508840

[swift chasm]

ah damn! Alright thanks for the answer tho! And i'm guessing 30fps is not playable?

[swift chasm]

If it freezes for you already on a m2, i would probaly have a bad time playing on a m1 😛

[lilac trail]

30 fps in campaign should be playable unless it’s like POE and there is a lot of visual clutter. Try it on all low settings and if it doesn’t feel right try free tier on GFN

[lilac trail]

sigh does no-one read pinned messages. 4th pinned message explains how to fix this.

[jagged flax]

Is it recommended to use the standalone client? Since Crossover steam limits multithreading ?

[next echo]

ye sorry, its a little bloated imo, but still thanks for your efforts

[unkempt onyx]

I think the freezing can be solved. I know others here on M1's and M2s reporting having a decent time, not sure if they have more than 8g of memory tho I only have 8 and that may be the cause of the freezing.

[chrome glen]

So i'm reading the guide where it says

"Locate and open the configuration file in ~/Documents/My Games/Path of Exile/production_Config.ini for M series systems. If the file has text, change the renderer_type setting from Vulkan to DirectX12. If the file is empty, add "[DISPLAY]" in one line, and "renderer_type=DirectX12" in another line underneath it"

Mine is empty so I wonder if i followed the steps correctly. Is it supposed to look like this?

[pseudo harbor]

I spent 10 hours straight playing without any issues. Frame rate is consistant and zero crashes.

[pseudo harbor]

Hmm mine was fully filled in with pages of info so yours looks a bit off.

[chrome glen]

Did you install the game before you edited the file?

because I haven't installed it yet

only the installer

[pseudo harbor]

Yea I had mine installed fully before messing w/ the file.

[chrome glen]

Ah ok then maybe that's why it's empty

[pseudo harbor]

Yep that would explain it.

[jagged flax]

what are u using? kegworks or co

[pseudo harbor]

Crossover.

[jagged flax]

standalone client?

[pseudo harbor]

Yep. I had nothing but issues with the Steam POE1 client so I didn't want to bother with it for POE2.

[jagged flax]

thank you. I liked tracking hours with steam but its a worthy sacrifice to not use it for stable performance

[chrome glen]

Did you buy the game on steam and linked it to ur poe acc or did you buy it separately?

[pseudo harbor]

It's possible POE2 steam client works fine I just didn't want to bother testing it.

[pseudo harbor]

I got a free key due to spending way too much money on GGG through the years for the standalone client.

[chrome glen]

Ah ok, thanks

[jagged flax]

hello, how much ram?

[jagged flax]

all the posts ive seen and stuff are using standalone client so i wont risk it since its a big install

[wraith parcel]

Which wrapping software performs the best for PoE2?

[pseudo harbor]

They should all perform the same due to all of them using the same core of GPTK.

[lilac trail]

It will auto populate once you start the game. This is really to prevent it crashing. It might still crash cause POE2 overwrites the file but hopefully it does not overwrite the renderer_type. If it does just change it back again.

[hybrid edge]

What M? And ranmm

[pseudo harbor]

M4 Max 48gb

[chrome glen]

Why can't I change my display resolution to higher? It's shyte right now

[amber dagger]

mine was empty until I launched the game

it crashed with a Vulcan error but I then I was able to edit the renderer line

[swift chasm]

yeah tbh, i think 8gb might be way to low for this game sadly :/

[amber dagger]

the game uses 10 by itself lol

[hybrid edge]

Too good. With need tests with lowe end devices.

[chrome glen]

Yeah i've fixed it but how is resolution for you? Can you choose higher resolution to match your display?

[hybrid edge]

M1 with 32 gb ram. Anyone got this and tested?

[amber dagger]

I'm using kegworks so I did the retina regedit

[amber dagger]

m1 max w/32G here. works ok

[chrome glen]

Ah ok is there any tutorial for how to do that for crossover?

[hybrid edge]

Wanna stream?

[amber dagger]

wdym

[hybrid edge]

Do you mind streaming gameplay

[inland yacht]

m1 mini is very slow, is there any good solution?

[lilac trail]

What is your processor and how much memory do you have on the device ? Both of those will affect what performance you will be able to get

[lilac trail]

There is a High Resolution mode button in the bottle options

[inland yacht]

16G

[lilac trail]

And your internet connection speed ? Is it wired or wireless

[chrome glen]

thanks!

[inland yacht]

Is it because of my computer configuration?

[lilac trail]

Also - your resolution comes from the display settings in system settings. Check what those are set to and make sure the in-game setting is the same. You can't go hiher in-game if your display is set to a lower value. You CAN get a higher resolution than either your in-built or external monitor by using a virtual monitor in an app such as BetterDisplay

[lilac trail]

I will be a combination of things. Also when you say it is very slow, what do you mean. The game is slow, the FPS is low or something else. I've seen a few posts of people complaining the game character movement speed is terrible. That's the game, not any configuration or internet connection.

[inland yacht]

It seems that the FPS is very low, I wonder what is the minimum configuration for smooth play on a mac?

[amber dagger]

vanilla M1 will struggle

[inland yacht]

Can the m2mini be played?

[oblique sleet]

m3 Pro here, its playable until you get far enough in the game to get large amounts of mobs at once

I'd say like 20+

[lilac trail]

set everything to the lowest possible settings and test that. An M2 mini with 16GB should be able to run at around 30FPS at least. What are you currently getting ?

[oblique sleet]

add particle effects and it stops being playable at that point unless you are ok with having a bad experience

[inland yacht]

I've set the minimum

[jagged flax]

is anyone actually using the steam client?

[lilac trail]

Some people are via Kegworks or Crossover. It's possible but not covered in the wiki guide. Those running the Windows steam vesrion (there is no Mac version for POE 2) may see performance hit. Also keeps this in mind (from the Kegworks develper).

"You need to have install Steam via winetricks firstly to ensure it’s installed correctly.
Steam can take quite sometime to open, if it wasn’t installed via winetricks it probably won’t open
The wrappers size will indeed increase that’s normal as the wrappers wineprefix will increase in size over time
The more games installed into the wrapper the larger it will become
Steam on first launch downloads the latest version of itself plus other cache files it needs to function
This happens with all wine based solutions, it’s just more obvious with Kegworks"

IMHO using the standalone without Steam is an easier to use solution. Less to fiddle with

[jagged flax]

seems fair. thank you

[mortal pine]

Hope Nvidia fixes their driver issues soon. What a pain

[glacial swallow]

It's playable on mac m4 mini but the texture quality is very bad even on 1440p resolution.

[amber dagger]

can the ingame fps meter be shown when not in graphics options?

[lilac trail]

Press Fn+F1 should bring that up

[amber dagger]

so low power mode works pretty well on the m1 max

[peak garnet]

what's the kegworks retina regedit you mentioned?

[lilac trail]

#1314669856842453004 message

[amber dagger]

https://old.reddit.com/r/macgaming/comments/1gees5s/how_to_get_retina_dpi_to_work_with_kegworks/

[chrome glen]

Is there any way to get fps hud while playing?

[amber dagger]

fn + f1

[chrome glen]

thx

[amber dagger]

or just f1 if you have a function row

low lights makes a big difference with fire spells

[chrome glen]

I have a slight input lag when I play. It’s the same on all resolution and settings

[peak garnet]

thanks

[lilac trail]

Is this the best resolution - it seems to lack sharpness around the face and other areas. Or is that just me ? I'm using 3200x1800, FSR, Ultra Performance, 100% sharpness, Shadow + GI Quality is Ultra. Everything else is on max where possible. Seems a bit disappointing. Maybe I need to enable Retina 🤔

[honest dome]

hey, Im trying to run standalone client i crossover, I have enabled D3DMetal and MSync. Im on a MacBook M4 Pro with 24gb ram. But after it starts it crashes. I have changed the config file to DirectX12. I also hva a crashlog from wine. Any tips?

[lilac trail]

Send a screenshot of your setting in the CO bottle and the config.ini file in the Path of Exile 2 directory

Maybe you are looking at the wrong config file

[peak garnet]

@lilac trail this is what it looks like for me at max res 3456 x 2234, everything is so tiny though

[lilac trail]

Yeah - higher res makes everything smaller, which is why I generally avoid it. Maybe my resolution is just a start screen thing but it annoys me. It should be way crisper than it is - especially on a 27" Studio monitor which can run at at far higher resolutions than the inbuilt

[lilac trail]

That all looks ok. Does it start, go black then returns to the CO menu or does it do something else ? What version of CO are you running and are you using CXPatcher with it ? What is the path to the config_ini file you showed ?

[honest dome]

it just crashes after a while when the ggg logo has been on screen for a periode

I do not use CXPatcher, dont know what that is

[lilac trail]

While I'm waiting for the game to settle down before playing where are there good resources to read up on things all POE 2 ?

[honest dome]

crossover is 24.0.5

path:

[lilac trail]

It all looks correct. Just out of curiosity - what does your POE 1 config.ini file renderer_type set to ? I wonder if it is getting confused somehow

[honest dome]

this is the wine crashlog

[lilac trail]

It's possible the files were corrupted. You could try running the Packcheck utility or you can re-run the install.

But first what does the POE 1 config.ini file look like, just to cover all bases

[honest dome]

the packcheck is saying stuff is not in sync, so might be that files are corrupted

[lilac trail]

I'd say so. Annoying as it is start all over again. The servers are more stable now so hopefuly not as painful an experience. Delete the bottle and start again, just to be sure

Did someone forget to take this notice down or is it ongoing ? According to some people this has been the post for 6 hours now

[lilac trail]

First nerf incoming …….

[fossil dock]

Nerf what? I try every boss 10 times....

And for melee in drop only rare crosbow

[lilac trail]

Supercharged Slam is getting a nerf in an hour or so. In game-news in the main channel

[oblique sleet]

m3 pro anyone?

[shadow violet]

Should I leave the resolution at the default 1728x1117 or is there a better config? Looks quite pixelated in login screen.

(16" M3 pro)

[peak garnet]

I've changed my resolution in system settings in to max settings and I still only have the same res option as you and I can't make it any higher, left default settings for the most part and I'm getting 140+ fps with drops as low as 115 or so

when I take a SS on mac it drops frames a bit lower

[lilac trail]

I don’t follow this. If your display is set to a higher resolution the game should see and use that.

My external display is set to 3200 and that is what the game is using. If your setting is lower that is what the display setting is.

[peak garnet]

yeah it's weird, because I set the res in system settings and I also have the same issue n gfnow can't change in-game resolution

@lilac trail haven't had time but, did you do the regedit fix that was posted earlier ? Also not sure if I'm having an issue due to an external monitor I'm using or maybe my caldigit ts4 dock?

[jagged flax]

is my laptop just not that powerful? Was getting 30 fps on medium, low sharpness, etc. MPB M2 pro

[lilac trail]

I did not end up performing the retina edit. The developer of Kegworks basically said not to do so. That is the gcenx user in that reddit post.

I don’t know if your dock is jamming you but if you can’t test resolution changes using the external monitor without it you’ll have your answer. Given you also can’t change it on GFN it seems a likely culprit

If you want a higher resolution without changing either your inbuilt or external monitor you can set up a virtual monitor with whatever resolution you like (up to 16k if you run Sequoia apparently).

[shadow violet]

@peak garnet https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1h7uxe0/comment/m0o4m2g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Now my laptop is showing the default resolution, but POE is showing 2x that and looks a lot better.

[peak garnet]

@lilac trail tbh, POE2 has ran great for me at current resolution, it would be nicer for it to look better, but would rather play a bit lower resolution than say 4k at 30fps. GFnow looks a tad better and doesn't trigger the fans which kegworks does and tbf kegworks seems very stable even with a ton of mobs/effects on screen.

[peak garnet]

that's the guide I used to get poe2 up and running

thank you

[lilac trail]

Did you just ping yourself 🤣

[peak garnet]

dammit

[proud igloo]

[peak garnet]

looked over to my desk and saw your ping Bob, in my defense I am making coffee.. I'll blame lack of coffee

[lilac trail]

Yes but be aware of this - this is a statement from the actual developer of Kegworks

“There’s a DPI slider in winecfg.
Retina Mode simply disables macOS Native scaling system, messing with the DPI slider can break applications that don’t correctly respect DPI scaling, that’s why Wineskin Kegworks doesn’t have an easily accessible option to disable it.”

[lilac trail]

Absolutely - it has to be good coffee too - none of that cheap stuff from Starbucks

Maybe you need something stronger - Jack Daniel’s always works for me or a good single malt

[peak garnet]

Been sober for 25 years, and yea I don't like starbucks coffee

[lilac trail]

@zao - when are we getting beasts of burden to ride in Wraeclast. I hear walking is not good in POE 2 🤔

[lilac trail]

It’s better than Tim Hortons but that isn’t saying much

[peak garnet]

what's your go to coffee?

[lilac trail]

TBH - I buy it from a company called Balzac here in Canada. It’s beans. I grind ‘em and make my own from there with an espresso machine. I don’t mix with those filthy peasants 🤣

[peak garnet]

[lilac trail]

I’m not mad enough to buy the green beans and roast my own … yet

[proud igloo]

[lilac trail]

Geez - I think I might have to sign up for nitro. These emojis are awesome

[peak garnet]

@lilac trail I need to get me a good coffee grinder, I was at cotsco not to long ago and there was this older gentleman fixing the coffee grinder and I asked for a recommendation on what consumer grade grinder to buy and he basically said there isn't anything under 300 that he could recommend

[proud igloo]

For single dose Aeropress brewing I like my Timemore C3 hand grinder, I think I got it recommended via James Hoffman. In general for the same price, you get significantly better grind from a hand grinder than an automatic grinder.

[orchid trout]

hello folks - glad i finally found this discord! i've got a m4 max MBP. poe2 via crossover it's running nicely on my alienware external monitor. good framerates and all however i noticed the textures kinda looks weird. when watching those streamers play it looks really different. is this due to crossover?

[peak garnet]

@proud igloo I see James has a recent video on grinders under 250, gonna give that a watch later. I drink a lot of coffee so it's time to invest in a good grinder

not looking to spend more than 300-350 though

[lilac trail]

My grinder is basic. Only one setting though and it isn’ fine. You can probably find a grinder for under $300 for sure. Or invest in a built in one on top of an espresso maker. Some of those have 30 settings for grind 😳 That’s way too much effort …

[amber dagger]

I like my niche

[peak garnet]

I hear you bob, I'd be happy just have fresh ground coffee everyday

[lilac trail]

Grind a bag, put it in a container, store it in a dry place 😁 I can’t start the day properly without a cappucino

[proud igloo]

Does macOS have any decent way of doing remote desktop by the way? While my main monitor has a KVM function, it's still very janky.

[peak garnet]

yeah that's what I currently do

[proud igloo]

That is, connect to a macOS machine under the desk from Windows.

[lilac trail]

Do you have high resolution in the CO bottle on ? In game resolution also depends on what your resolution is set to in System settings. Check resolution there matches what the game thinks resolution is and that they match

[lilac trail]

So you want to TDP from Windows to a Mac from a Windows system correct ?

[orchid trout]

thanks for the reply @lilac trail ! i dont have high res turned on.
system settings for the external monitor is 3440x1440. if i turn on high res in CO, i have to set POE2 to 6k. if i dont do that, it only shows up as a center portion of the screen

Looks like this

[lilac trail]

I don’t follow you. Is that the 6k setting you are showing or the 3k ? Have you tried a different mod. There are 2 others besides fullscreen.

[orchid trout]

yeah if i set it to 6k, it goes fullscreen. FPS takes a huge hit though.. 😦

[lilac trail]

You could select the 6k and decrease some of the other settings. That might offset the FPS drop. Have you tried FSR instead of NIS. I found that gave me a better image to some degree.

[orchid trout]

yeah playing around with the settings now.
do we know when we will have a native mac client? lol
lastly, is there a way to load everything into RAM? loading between zones takes a couple of secs

[proud igloo]

The client data is like 86 gigs highly compressed; you're gonna need a lot of RAM for that kind of cache 😄

[orchid trout]

yeah i bought the 128GB ram mac.. do some LLM work during my hobby time

[proud igloo]

The client has some amount of assets resident. Much of load time may be networking-related and from actual generation.

[orchid trout]

got it.. thank you!

any rumors of an actual mac client someday?

[proud igloo]

Got no more info than what's in the EA FAQ.

[orchid trout]

aww got it. thank you so much!

back to grinding! you guys have been helpful!

[proud igloo]

If you're curious about RAM/VRAM usage, you may have bars on the F1 (or Fn+F1) performance graph.

[lilac trail]

You could setup a virtual monitor. This doesn’t affect your inbuilt or external monitor. You can leave those at whatever setting you want.

With a virtual monitor you can go as high as 16k if you are on Sequoia.

The app to use is free (but there is a paid version too). How to use it is in a pinned message in the channel. The game will use the virtual monitor settings you set. When finished, turn off mirroring.

You’d still need to adjust settings in game, but it might help. Virtual monitors use memory but since you have 128GB that should not be an issue I imagine.

[simple brook]

for those who are using NIS upscale mode, I found enable high resolution mode in crossover bottle remove the blurry texture.

but had some drop in FPS tho

[spice lintel]

are there any m1 warriors out there that have gotten the game to run? could you post your poe2_production_Config.ini ? The game crashes for me when trying to change the graphics settings ingame...

[floral mica]

my god thank you. it is much better now lol

[simple brook]

just disable high resolution mode cause my M2 Max can't handle it LOL

[oblique sleet]

High res mode makes the mouse cursor comically large

[stable aurora]

Playable on an 8gb 2020 iPad (non pro) via GFN

But not really recommend potato quality

[safe tapir]

guys anyone playing steam verison via whiskey? whats your setings in whiskey ?

[heady bay]

Have done that - the quality is good. FPS affected too much. Ended up doing a windowed mode to lower the resolution to get at 50fps in Act 2. It's drops to 15 in a fights but playable

[lilac trail]

Does the game run at all or crashes on start up. What client are u using to run it

[lilac trail]

Via Whisky I imagine performance is bad. What FPS are you getting and at what resolution.

[crimson idol]

how many fps do you get with m1 max? i tried with both Kegworks and whisky. no matter what i do i get 35-40 fps strangely. I turned fsr on and off, changed the quality between medium and high, increased and decreased the resolution, etc.. does crossover give better performance?

[lilac trail]

I get 50-55FPS. I’m using max settings and a resolution of 3200. Others playing with a lower resolution have been able to go much higher. There is a trade off between the resolution and other settings vs FPS. Can’t seem to have high resolution and high FPS. It’s one or the other.

[crimson idol]

thanks for the info

I'll try it with crossover and try 1-2 more settings

[lilac trail]

Do you own Crossover ?

[crimson idol]

I downloaded the 14-day trial, if it works well, maybe I'll buy it

[undone coyote]

is there any difference for between standalone client and steam client?
got 40~ fps on my m1 pro via steam and crossover preview , some1 got better result?

[crimson idol]

same on m1 max

but I think the standalone client is a bit better

and when changing settings in-game, fps sometimes locks up and doesn't change. when I restore the config ini file, my fps goes back up.

[lilac trail]

It will work but I would be surprised if the FPS is any better. You missed the 70% sale of Crossover last week.
If you use TOM23 though you will get a 20% discount.

[amber dagger]

why would crossover have higher frame rate

[lilac trail]

What do you mean by retore your config_ini file ?

[tropic coral]

I'm using Kegworks. follow my config.

[ocean echo]

I think its dead to play with my iMac

Bootcamp Windows but …

[jagged flax]

had to dig out the windows laptop just to play this. Had to do 5 updates before being able to play

[ocean echo]

You think its good with my iMac for poe2 low graphics ?

[crimson idol]

there is a file with the settings of the game in the document folder called poe2_production_Config.ini. i saved it properly in the first version. when i have problems i restore it

[crimson idol]

It's a shame that 70 percent escaped, but it seems to give similar performance to Kegworks anyway. I'll probably go back there when the trial is over

[crimson idol]

thank you I saved your message I'll try

[hoary spindle]

has anyone tried getting this to work with https://getwhisky.app ? I feel like the app itself is cool in concept, bad in execution.

[lilac trail]

Yes. Runs poorly unless you like using lowest settings and resolutions.

Whisky is also stuck at WINE7.7 and GPTK1.1
I use it to run a game no other WINE app does but I wouldn’t use it for POE or POE2. The other options outlined in the wiki perform better.

[hoary spindle]

Makes sense. I wasn't sure how relevant the wiki is still. Now I know it is very up to date. Thanks

[lilac trail]

There is a last update at the top of the wiki - it got updated for POE 2 today 😀 The wiki mentions Whisky, the Windows Steam client and even GFN, but it's primary focus is on the 4 apps outlined in it. Players can, and do, use other options. It's really a personal preference and YMMV a lot depending on system specs. An advantage of the standalone setup on the wikis is that generally, 3rd party apps, such as APT will continue to work. You can't use APT on GFN for example. You can run the Windows version in Kegworks, portingkit or Crossover. You can also run the Windows version of PoB using them.

There is a case for GFN if system specs are base level i.e. 8GB of memory. That's because you get a virtual machine with better specs. There is a free tier of GFN, but users in this tier are last in queue priority, so it could take a while to login and game time is limited. To get more game time, but not necessarily a better queue priority, users can pay a monthly fee. At that point it may be better to buy Crossover, which is a one time fee and run the game at the lowest possible settings.

[uneven wolf]

[I've never posted here; Please pardon any Faux Pas] I've been wondering the following for some time: Do we (the community) believe the eventual macOS port of PoE2 will have support for Apple Silicon (available for the last 4 years) in order to future-proof the game for the next decade … or will it strictly adhere to x86/x86_64, a dying architecture as far as macOS is concerned.

[formal nimbus]

i would not hold out great hope for the mac port of poe 2 based on how tremendously bad the mac client is for poe 1

i just run poe 1 on crossover bc the performance is so much better and less buggy

[edgy jacinth]

first neversink filter is out for poe2 btw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T52X3EEiyZs - should be installable for most of our setups

[lilac trail]

There may be a Mac client - both standalone and steam but it is not a priority. Not to defend GGG, or any other game company (Blizzard) but Mac users represent less than 3% of the game market. There are more Linux users than Mac users. Blizzard is a good example on the way the industry is going - D4 did not have a Mac client, despite D3 having one. While translation layer apps such as Crossover, Kegworks and others aren’t as good as a native client, they work. It’s clear GGG don’t have the in-house to develop a Mac client. They have barely scrapped it together for Xbox and PS5. Remember mobile ….I’m not holding my breath for a Mac client to materialise.

If you us an actual file it goes in the same directory as config_ini. Web based will just work of course.

Does POE 2 actually need a filter at the moment. My understanding is there isn’t the ground clutter that POE suffers. Some people are complaining that loot drops are non-existent.

[edgy jacinth]

in the video neversink mentions that really important drops like waystones or crafting material can get lost in clutter, so even adding something like a mini map icon or sound can be useful

but yeah based on what i'm hearing the item part isn't super key since its basically ruthless lol

[lilac trail]

I only just started. I just got to the first place after you fight the Miller. The game looks and feels an awful lot like POE at the moment.

[heady bay]

Highly recommend to do https://www.codeweavers.com/support/forums/general?t=27;msg=304647

I have updated that 2 files in crossover and got a stable 50fps still and 35+ in fights using 5k res

it's about +30% from what I had in 5k res. Window mode with 3200x1800 sits at 50-40fps. Everything above using:

omg. General FPS 70-100. Fights with 50-60fps. This is on a 2560x1440

all this after replacing 2 files using GPTK2 Beta from apple website

[wraith pollen]

I am using MBP M1 with Kegworks, standalone client and enabled Retina in the config file. I couldn’t find “FSR” in settings, am I setting anything wrong?

[amber dagger]

tell me more

[heady bay]

Download https://download.developer.apple.com/Developer_Tools/Game_porting_toolkit_beta/Game_Porting_Toolkit_2.0_beta_3.dmg

Follow https://www.codeweavers.com/support/forums/general?t=27;msg=304647

[amber dagger]

kegworks already uses this right?

[heady bay]

nope

[heady bay]

cd ~/Applications/CrossOver.app/Contents/SharedSupport/CrossOver/lib64/apple_gptk/external

mv D3DMetal.framework D3DMetal.framework-old; mv libd3dshared.dylib libd3dshared.dylib-old

ditto /Volumes/Evaluation\ environment\ for\ Windows\ games\ 2.0/redist/lib/external/ .

[amber dagger]

how much did it improve for ya?

[heady bay]

5k res i playable, lower res is at stable 50+ fps at any point.

before it was like 45 if nothing is happening with 15-20 in fight

[pseudo harbor]

Well I am at a loss. I was getting awesome FPS with FSR, but then my game crashed. When I reopened it I got the error about the tmp file cannot update. I did the fix where you rename the .tmp file to .exe and I was able to get back into the game but now FSR is actually lowering my FPS. Anyone familiar with this issue? (I've run into this issue on another game and never was able to fix it).

[livid mantle]

any idea how to get item filter in geforcenow?

[lilac trail]

Kegworks already uses 2.0b3 !

Also the latest Crossover-preview has GPTK 2.0b3 in it. Anyone that owns Crossover has access to this.

[lilac trail]

yes it does

[lilac trail]

Saw same thing today on my system. It seems to be very dependant on server responses.

[lilac trail]

Online filter via Filterblade or any filter program that does online sync should work.

[edgy jacinth]

i don't think any programs that do online sync work for PoE2 at the moment

[lilac trail]

So the Neversink video is just about the downloadable file ?
Then it isn’t possible to use a filter, except whatever the GGG default filter is then. Not that you really need a filter in POE 2

[peak garnet]

@lilac trail yes, you download the .filter file from filter blade and put that in your my documents/my games/poe2 folder

but I get an error when loading atm

[pseudo harbor]

You ran into the tmp issue or the issue with FSR stopping to work and actually lowering my FPS now. I’ve searched online and cannot find anything about the FPS issues with FSR.

[peak garnet]

they do show up in game, just doesn't load @lilac trail

[lilac trail]

I would see what it looks like tomorrow. It could be back to what it was before 🤷‍♂️

[lilac trail]

I guess it’s broken. I had an issue connecting in the game today. It would not connect multiple times. Then when I portalled it kept failing saying it couldn’t connect to an instance. There are likely a ton of things not working but I can’t understand why a filter wouldn’t work. Not like it’s a new feature 🤔

[edgy jacinth]

filters generated by filterblade do not work at the moment, per neversink. you have to download the filter from the link in the youtube video

i don't know why that's the case

[proud igloo]

Apex Cleaver is a PoE1 base type.
FilterBlade notes that they don't support PoE2 yet, while the filter from the video/GitHub may be more handcrafted.

[wraith pollen]

If I have deleted D3DMetal 2.0 folder in Kegworks, how can I add it back for POE2? 🙈🙏🏻

[proud igloo]

If it's per-wrapper, you could probably either make another wrapper and see if you can transplant the renderer contents from it to your original wrapper; or make another wrapper and move the game from the original wrapper into that new one.

[wraith pollen]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[amber dagger]

is there a cpu affinity tool for macOS?

[hybrid edge]

All I’m reading here is that I shouldn’t bother with POE2 until they release their own macOS version. So much inconsistency for a platform that’s generally consistent with its specs.

[bold glen]

i try Kegworks but Direct3D to Metal cant click, am i doing something wrong ?

[lilac trail]

zao is correct. It’s per wrapper. You will need to create a new wrapper to get the 2.0 directory back. Unlike POE you do not have to remove this folder for POE 2 EA

[lilac trail]

Something went wrong in the install. You’ll need to redo the installation. Make sure you follow each setup step as per wiki. Also you do NOT need to remove the 2.0 folder in one of the last steps in the KWS setup on the wiki. That only applies to POE 1

[lilac trail]

No

[bold glen]

do i need to reinstall Kegworks? or just a PoE2

[junior jay]

welp, from my yesterday test

i need to ditch the m1 finally i guess

[heady bay]

Is it that bad? I'm on M2 and able to get stable 50fps with good enough grapics

[junior jay]

for some reason (havent figured out why) its cloggy

prolly ram issue

[heady bay]

probably. As it's not that big difference in cpu

[frosty pelican]

I have a macbook pro M1 pro 16 gb, the 14 inch base model.

Do you think it is worth to try run it or it will be too bad?

[hybrid edge]

From what I gather is you don’t bother with any M1s. But I could be wrong.

[undone coyote]

Same macbook, i've got 30-40 fps with dips, with low ugly graphics. tried via crossover preview

[golden hamlet]

Can someone print screen their preferred in-game settngs? I am running it with crossover-preview at 2560x1440 with M4 PRO, getting around 70FPS which is ok for me. Visuals looks somewhat a bit too sharp though and image quality is somehow a bit off

[bold glen]

i try to reinstall Kegworks and re do step install from wiki again but on step 8 still can't check the Direct3D to Metal Option

im on mac book pro M2 Os ventura 13.5

[heady bay]

I have tried Whisky, kegworks to end up with Crossover

[lilac trail]

Just POE

[lilac trail]

The game runs fine on an M1. Depending on amount of memory, cpu and graphics settings you get at least 30FPS. You’ll get more if you set graphics to lower settings

[dense crystal]

@lilac trail you got any idea if its possible to play my standalone client chars on my console? i thought that thsi was a feature but nobody has been able to do it

[dense crystal]

lots of screen tearing tho

atleast for me i had quite the bit of it

[lilac trail]

Your OS is the issue. You need to go to Sonoma for D3DMetal to work properly

[bold glen]

ok i will go to update macos

[lilac trail]

It was technically possible to run GPTK 1.0 on Ventura. I did so till they released an update to GPTK1.1. Then I had to update my OS 🙄 How much memory do you have on system ?

[lilac trail]

I don’t know how Xbox works but I would have thought you could use same characters. Characters are stored server side and you have to login to POE2 so …..send an email to support if they aren’t showing up I guess

[lilac trail]

Screenshot your settings might be easier. How much memory do you have ? 70FPS is pretty nice

[bold glen]

i have 32gb on ram

[dense crystal]

fair enough

[dense crystal]

jealous

[lilac trail]

You’ll be good to upgrade and run POE or POE 2.0 EA at a decent FPS then 👍

[remote hatch]

What would happen if I deleted D3DMetal 2.0 folder during the setup? Does it affect the game performance or graphics a lot? I followed the exact steps on wiki for POE2 and the game runs but wonder if it’d be better to reinstall to get 2.0 folder back if it matters a lot. Thanks!

[lilac trail]

Removing the 2.0 folder means you are not using GPTK 2.0b3. It isn’t a huge issue. The game will run fine. Some players have reported better FPS by using 2.0b3. To use it you just need to create a new wrapper in Kegworks and install the game again.
You can leave the current install alone if you have the disk space. Once you verify the new wrapper works delete the old one. Or delete the existing one first if you want to keep the wrapper name.

Also - most people are on a 64 bit architecture these days. After everything is setup change the executable to the PathofExile_x64.exe instead of the default executable

[proud igloo]

There's only x64 PoE. The shortcut on Windows uses the undecorated EXE.

2024-12-09  21:37           505,872 Client.exe
2024-12-09  21:37         1,173,008 PackCheck.exe
2024-12-09  21:37        65,562,128 PathOfExile.exe
2024-12-09  21:37           505,872 PathOfExile_x64.exe

The naming scheme goes back to when there were both 32-bit and 64-bit PoE on Windows; these days it's all the same.

[lilac trail]

So it doesn’t matter which executable is used then ? Good to know 👍

I did notice both get updated when a patch comes out but didn’t really think about it too hard 😁

[remote hatch]

Thank you for such detailed response! Will definitely reinstall the game to see if it would help improve my FPS, as currently it struggles a bit while there were dozens of mobs even in Act I, thank you Bob!

[lilac trail]

Will update the wiki to make it clearer NOT to remove the 2.0 folder if playing POE 2.0 EA. In my defense I found this out by accident but forgot to update the page.

[heady bay]

switching to gptk2 was a huge diff for me

[dense crystal]

im using an m3 pro chip with 18gb of ram, and even on the lowest possible settings i get a huge amount of screen tear ( almost like some rows of pixels are slower then other with rendering

[remote hatch]

Does the game automatically use the GPTK2 to run even when the 1.1 folder also exists under the same directory?

[remote hatch]

I’ve just switched from my Xbox to standalone client and I’m able to continue playing the character I created back on Xbox, so it should work the other way round. Just make sure you link your Xbox credential to your POE account via POE website.

[dense crystal]

i linked my poe account after making a char on xbox

maybe that is the issue?

[remote hatch]

It shouldn’t be the problem, so you are now experiencing your standalone character not showing up on your Xbox?

[dense crystal]

yeah

im checking the other way around rn

yeah other way works

i can continue with my xbox char on pc

[remote hatch]

You might want to reach out to POE support then, it’s weird.

[dense crystal]

maybe i oversaw it tho on the xbox

since this does work

thank you regardless

[remote hatch]

No worries I hope it helps, you might want to check if you happen to have multiple sub accounts on your Xbox and be sure to select the one you have your PC characters on

[dense crystal]

yeah i dont recall seeing an option to select a certain account on xbox

like on standalone i can select xbox account or standalone

but on i dont recall doing the same on xbox

[amber dagger]

can you post screenshot of graphics settings?

[dense crystal]

im getting 50fps at 4k

[dense crystal]

ill boot it up for you

1 sec

here you go

getting 19 fps now cuz i have a whole 8gb docker container running on ram xD but yeah

[amber dagger]

and res was 1440p when you got 70fps? asking because I'm considering replacing my M1 max with M4 pro

[amber dagger]

thanks

[dense crystal]

hmmm

[amber dagger]

though binned m4 max might be the way

[dense crystal]

i think i got 70 fps at like 59% upscale

but usually doesnt reach above 60

[amber dagger]

24 -> 48 GB ram is such a scam

[dense crystal]

yeppp

keep in mind i play with 18gb ram

so 70fps might just be out of reach for me

[lilac trail]

Yes. Kegworks defaults to this when D3DMetal is selected I believe.

[remote hatch]

Got it, thank you Bob!

[wraith pollen]

After reinstalling Kegworks and PoE2 without deleting 2.0 folder this time. The FPS went from 40 to 70 on my Macbook Pro M1!

[dense crystal]

wowowow what

what resolution?

now i need to know xD

[lilac trail]

Sweet 👍

[dense crystal]

i cant even get more then 60

[frosty pelican]

I get black boxes whenever there is water, someone else? I have tried different graphic settings but have the same issue

[dense crystal]

same here

only had it at the intro at act 1

besides that havent seen it anymore

[lilac trail]

There is a water effect setting. What is it set to ?

[dense crystal]

why am i getting such low fps? 18gb m3pro

[dense crystal]

low

even with absolutely everything set the the lowest possible i get 65fps in the menu

[dense crystal]

i tried a bunch of settings for water aswell but it seemed to be only in the beginning for me and then i never saw it again

[wraith pollen]

Try FSR in upscale mode and then use “balanced”?

[dense crystal]

yeah did that aswell, even tried ultra performance but only got like 45 fps

let me try that combined with no global illumi

nis gives me 65 fsr gives me 60 now

this is in menu tho, ill try the actual map now

50fps in town

not shabby actually

[lilac trail]

I have an M1 Max 64GB and a 2 TB SSD (yes I pimped my ride back when the M series first came out 😁). At no upscale I get 50-56 FPS at 3200 res. It will not go higher regardless of what I do. This is probably because monitor refresh is 60Hz. Monitor refresh rate also impacts what FPS you can achieve

[dense crystal]

ohhhh okay is ee

i have a 120hz screen

its the macbook pro m3pro 16 inch using apple's 120hz

pro-motion

in map i get 65fps now

but this is alrdy great, now i can actually play without it. feeling like im trying to play cod bo6 on my refrigerator

[lilac trail]

You should get higher than 60FPS with your monitor then, especially if you go with a reduced upscale value. FPS is generally a combination of CPU, GPU and Monitor but response times also come into play and likely other factors as well. I’m ok with 55FPS. It was more than I ever got with the native client.

[dense crystal]

hmm what do you think it could be then?

this is my crossover

besides that i havent touched anything

maybe highres mode?

[lilac trail]

I found FSR helped me a little. Balanced, performance or ultra performance not so much

[dense crystal]

ill try again in a bit

would you think that high res mode could be part of this?

if i have it turneed off i need to set my screen to very big which makes all my other apps very small lol

ahhhh

90 fps now

but now the game is in 360p basically xD

bruhhh hahahah this is kinda funny ngl

[lilac trail]

Looks like POE in open beta 🤣

[dense crystal]

cant have best of both worlds sadly

[dense crystal]

xDDD yeah

ill take the 55-65fps then i guess. i need quality to appreciate this game

xbox however plays as smooth as butter. steady 60fps 4k res

[lilac trail]

Make sure when trying to get the best graphics to only change 1 thing at a time. Otherwise you don’t know what made it work best

[dense crystal]

yeah exactly, good tip

[dense crystal]

this is kinda what people mean with " i get 240fps on poe2 bro "

[lilac trail]

I need some suggestions for My Merc. I just go to the first town. Have the mud bug quest. I can’t even take down the icicle witch or the mud bugger. At this stage I have 2 passive tree points and that’s about it. Crossbow is hideously slow. Frost bolts seem to do jack shit and monsters can move at speed but not my character. How do I get past this ? I don’t want to be battling bosses for an hour. Not my idea of fun

[amber dagger]

50-60 with retina res? in combat?

I'm strugging at 1080p with perfomance FSR

[dense crystal]

hmm

i had the same issue

swapped over to sorceress

great tip ⏫

i do see later on it starting to do a ton of dps

but what you could do is temporarily use other spells and gear

untill u get lvl 4-7 gems

then start moving towards those again

maybe use ranger stuff rn

[lilac trail]

How would swapping to sorceress work or are you saying play Merc but use sorcerer skills instead of Merc ? That seems counterintuitive.

How would I get to level 4-7 gems when I still in the very first section of the first act ? Do I just skip all bosses and quests and just run around in the open and kill piddly little monsters for bugger all gold and a chance for an upgrade ?

[dense crystal]

it was a joke, kinda like saying drop merc like i did

so the gems part for ranger right

what if in the beginning you use skills that have nothign to do with mercenary but do alot of dps

so you can get through the first 2-3 bosses

then get ur gear going for merc in the background

and use it when it has usefull dps

im new to poe in general so what im saying rn might be complete bogus

but whats what i would do

[lilac trail]

Using a different character doesn’t really help. I might get gear drops for a merc but likely not. Plus if I use another character Merc would start at zero again. I’m sure the game wasn’t that poorly designed that you need to do that. Like all EA releases some of the mechanics are broken and need to be addressed. It might be better to wait till they release an update. This feels like AN league all over again. Also for the love of god, why can GGG not get balance right. Character movement is dogshit slow, monster movement is insanely fast and way overtuned. Loot is non-existent. GGG have 12 years of IP. Why is it so hard to balance ? QA must be a nightmare at GGG. Fist shaking at cloud rant over 😁

[vague flower]

are they gonna release an apple silicon build or just for intel macs like poe 1 ?

[dense crystal]

yes

they said they will

[vague flower]

big

[dense crystal]

yeah thats fair, but i didnt mean start a new one

i meant use other gems on ur merc that arent specifically for merc

ur not limited to gems yk

[lilac trail]

At the stage I am at I’m lucky to have 2 rocks to bang together 😁 I have a white crossbow, like everyone else. The only skills I’ve found are for the Merc with a crossbow

No information that will be the case.

[echo cape]

My FPS seems steady at 50fps but the game itself feels stuttery. Currently using crossover. Anyone have that?

I see people mention Crossover Preview but my bottle doesn't have that option.

[lilac trail]

It a different version of Crossover. It is not a bottle. If you have a licensed version of Crossover you can download it. This will give you GPTK 2.0b3. You can also get it by a convoluted process of replacing some files from the actual GPTK dmg. An easier method is to use CXPatcher if you want the latest GPTK updates.

[echo cape]

If I use CXPatcher, I won't need to download the preview? I don't want to have to reinstall POE2. that was 86gb lol

[lilac trail]

Correct

Technically you would not need to re-download and install the game if you used the preview version of Crossover. You would just move the bottle from one Crossover to the other. You would have 2 vesrions of Crossover though, whivh could get confusing.

Preview is like a beta - it might have some bugs in it but some people are ok with that

It's you personal preference which way you want to go

[amber dagger]

could be vsync judder

50 doesn't go into 60

what's your refresh rate

[echo cape]

Just realized its set to Promotion which I assume is 120h

[amber dagger]

I don't think adaptive sync works correctly

you can force it to 50

[echo cape]

Ill play around with that

[amber dagger]

I tried that yesterday and it was perfectly smooth

though I can't hold 50 all the time

@echo cape where you see promotion, choose 50 hz

50hz cursor will be paintful tho

[lilac trail]

It’s good to be running the game on a Mac at the moment apparently - https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/ZV5pfueS9B

[narrow mesa]

Hey I have 2 observations:
Sometimes I have a very long time of loading a location that causes disconnect in the end. Additionally I feel like my graphic (even being on high) is like 30 years ago

Do you experience something similar?

I don't know if the image reflects that, but my feeling is everything is sharp

[lilac trail]

Is there a flask refill bug. Flasks are supposed to refill as you kill monsters. Mine is not. I have to go back to town to refill it

[sturdy scarab]

normal monsters only have a chance to grant flask charges

[vale mortar]

For playing on Kegworks do you have to have poe2 installed before I setup kegworks or does it matter

[lilac trail]

Setup Kegworks first. Then POE 2 as per wiki guide.

[vale mortar]

Thanks👍

[rough palm]

Hello everyone, I have a problem.

So I bought EA of poe2 on the website and received a redeem key on steam. Problem was my poe account is linked with my old steam account (steamA). But I accidently redeem the key in my current steam account (steamB). So now my steamA has the EA pass but can not download the game and steamB can download the game but doesnt have EA.

I am using GeforceNow so it only supports steam version of the game so I really cant play it with Epicgame or poe client.

So if anyone here who bought the game on poe website and is playing via game client or Epicgame client that has a spare steam redeem key, can you give it to me so I can redeem it on my steamA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[unkempt onyx]

I would try to contact poe support. they are normally super responsive and helpful with these things. Although with the launch they may be overwhelmed and take longer to respond.

I've found with similar requests i.e deleted charecters on accident or MTX issues they respond very quickly and resolve the issue.

[grizzled needle]

How is the perfomance on M4 Mac mini (non pro) on 1440p?

[rough palm]

I tried, asked them to either remove the link between my poe account and steamA, or give me another redeem key on steam and remove the last one. But they said there is nothing they can do 😦

[unkempt onyx]

Maybe you havnt spent enough on MTX for vip service 😭

[edgy jacinth]

Why can't you use your old steam account any more?

[rough palm]

Yeah, poe1 did not interest me but poe2 really does. So I really want to play but now I am in a stupid sitatuation 😦 its my fault no doubt but still..

[rough palm]

I can, the EA is linked with my old steam account because it is linked in the website, but the redeem key I redeemed on my current account because it is auto login. So now old account has EA but can not download the game becasue the key is redeemed in new account, but new account doesnt have EA pass

[edgy jacinth]

Is anyone on Sequoia 15.1.1? Safe to update to, no weird interactions?

[lilac trail]

I’m on Sequoia. Everything is working for me. I even upgraded without doing a backup first 😬

[light glen]

Anyone have a guide for installing PoE 2 on an apple silicon mac? Do similar methods work as those for the PoE 1 standalone client (I'm planning on using standalone, unless performance is better elsewhere), or are there any trip-ups ahead if I go that approach?

[proud igloo]

The wiki-hosted guide in the pins has the collected wisdom of this channel on getting it to run.

The process is indeed similar, it notes where things diverge.

[light glen]

awesome, just checking in, in case there was other issues not there yet

tysm

[vague flower]

I went from 37fps to 64 fps on my M4 mac mini by switching from crossover to crossover preview (I installed through steam)

[gusty ore]

I am not able to open the games after installed porting kit, this error occurred, could anyone helps ? Thanks

[lilac trail]

Did you change the renderer_type to DirectX12 ? The error message mentions Vulkan, which is the wrong renderer_type

[plain harbor]

Anyone have tried using MBA m1 8gb ram, please?

[lilac trail]

It will not run well regardless of what you do with that low an amount of memory.

Set all graphics to lowest and then choose a low resolution at which you can get an FPS of 30 without the game looking too much like Minecraft.

The other option would be to look into using the free tier of GFN if you have a Steam or Epic library.

[severe compass]

Anyone else having the issue of the account getting locked out by "logging in a new location" everytime I play?

[lethal osprey]

Has anyone had any experience with a MacBook Air M2 2023 16GB RAM? and which variant did you use? Crossover or something else?

[edgy jacinth]

I don't have that exact laptop, but it should work ok with any of the windows methods pinned or in the wiki. If you already have paid for CrossOver I'd try that first, otherwise just go down the list

[ruby prawn]

good lord poe1 keeps crashing at the drop of a hat on my m1 mini. are there any settings I should be aware of?

lol what it's more stable after typing /dnd

[lethal osprey]

ok, what kind of mac do you have? The Macbook Airs just have passive cooling....While playing PoE1 the mac gets a bit warm...im just wondering if its still okay fpr poe2

[lilac trail]

Unless your system is exceeding 100 celsius (212f) all the time your system is fine. I wouldn't have it on your lap but the CPU is designed to hold up under temperature, especially since the MBAir has no fan
You can use a program such as TGPro (there is a free version) to monitor temperature

[atomic herald]

about temperature, i found a free program for mac called "Hot" (if i remember correct, i am not at home atm)

[lethal osprey]

okay, just one question, which way of the ones in the wiki post would you prefer if you havent crossover

@lilac trail

[lilac trail]

My preference is Kegworks. This has GPTK 2.0b3 natively, where the others don’t unless you perform workarounds.

Crossover has a 2 week trial period so you could try that too. The code TOM23 provides a 20% discount. The developers of this are the ones that made the breakthrough of playing DirectX12 games on a Mac possible (no it wasn’t the Apple GPTK) so I like to support them but not everyone can afford or will because out of it so it’s also perfectly fine to use one of the others.

On an MB Air FPS is not going to be great if you only have 8GB memory. Don’t expect above 30FPS even with all settings at low, including resolution. If you have 16GB memory you’ll do better.

There is also GFN - which has a free tier. You have to own the game in a library such as Stream. The game will likely run at a higher FPS on that service but you need a decent internet connection. Patch updates also aren’t rolled out as quick as you can update in a standalone.

[lethal osprey]

hmm

i have 16GB

i have no problem to support the codeweaver guys...i already tested a crossover version for someting else in the past, so i wont have a trial any more

but i would like to know if everything works fine before, since i also have to spend money for the game itself

[lilac trail]

You should be good to use standalone option with 16GB. For Crossover you should just be able to download a new trial. If you still have the software on your system you would need to remove it all first. For now use Kegworks. You can get round to considering Crossover later if Kegworks doesn't seem to be working out for you.

[lethal osprey]

i have another trial of crossover now...but bob sorry i am to dumb...i bought the supporter pack in steam so i am qualified now to play poe2...but i am confused how to login at the page and download the game lol

[lilac trail]

The pathofexile2.com/download page ? You would use the same username and password as you do when you want to access the trade section. Have you traded via the website before ?

On the wiki there is also steps on how to get your path of exile login and password if you have forgotten them

In the overview section. Once you do that, those are the credentials you will use for logging into the game

They are also the credentials to get to the download page

[amber dagger]

there's a $5 thermal mod for the Air that makes an enormous difference. I've done it and it's worth it

also for the Pro laptops, I use https://crystalidea.com/macs-fan-control to keep temps in check

@lethal osprey ^

[split basalt]

hey guys im in a dumb situation. im using a 8bitdo pro controller that only has a "select" and " start" button and i am not able to open up my inventory somehow. does anyone have an idea or solution? I cant seem to map controller buttons, so thats not working i think

[chrome glen]

I get bout 40-60 fps when figthing on m2 max 32 gb ram with hd res but i looks like shyte ngl. I think imma get geforce now

[amber dagger]

wdym? FSR quality or native looks pretty good

agree NIS or no AA looks really noisy

[chrome glen]

i got fsr it looks ass and blurry but my screen res is 3024 x 1964 and im playing on HD so maybe das the reason

[amber dagger]

what is HD?

[chrome glen]

1920 x 1080

[amber dagger]

I would set my desktop res to 3024 x 1964 (or the one just under that excludes the notch), then use more aggressive FSR

balanced should look decent and run well

[chrome glen]

how do you use more aggresive FSR? I just put it on FSR

[amber dagger]

or enable retina mode in your win thing

[amber dagger]

FSR has settings

you can disable dynamic scaling and pick how much reduction you want

[chrome glen]

i use crossover u know how to do that htere?

[chrome glen]

ok thx ill try it out

[amber dagger]

m2 max might be ok at FSR quality, with GI disabled. That setting is expensive

[chrome glen]

what is GI

[amber dagger]

global illumination

I think the high resolution setting does the equivalent of setting your desktop to 3024 x 1964

[chrome glen]

What is the FSR advanced setting

This is my settings rn

Also it's impossible to play in a party where multiple people cast effect shit drops to 10 fps lol

[amber dagger]

M1 Max 58 fps with FSR quality

which I think is 3/4 native

[chrome glen]

Even when you're in combat?

imma try that thanks

[amber dagger]

I use a 40 fps cap, disabled it for this screenshot

I also wouldn't use quality with uncapped framerate

40-50 is a good balance I think

then you can use quality without the fans going crazy

one nice trick is setting your refresh rate to 50 then capping the game to 50

[chrome glen]

I got it on balance i get 40-60 fps with normal mobs

[amber dagger]

but in boss fights I drop under 50 and without promotion it stutters

disabling GI is ~20% boost on my m1 max

[chrome glen]

How do i change the refresh rate on mac

[amber dagger]

bottom right

[chrome glen]

thanks!

[amber dagger]

though promotion seems to work well

I don't see judder with a 40fps cap

there's some minor judder actually

50-50 is butter when it can keep up

[chrome glen]

Lowering the refresh rate on mac made it look worse ngl but it atleast looks good now to me with 120hx and cap at 40-50fps. Hope it just don't becomes unplayable on bosses

[amber dagger]

yea the cursor will be laggy

[amber dagger]

you can set the target refresh to 40 and enable dynamic scaling

FSR should pick more aggressive settings to keep up

[chrome glen]

Which option is the dynamic scaling

this?

[amber dagger]

yes

but you need to give it a target

[chrome glen]

Appreciate the help! Looks a lot better now

shi looked like a potato b4 this

[amber dagger]

the slider at the bottom

[chrome glen]

Yep figured it out

what does background fps cap do

i got both set to 50

the foreground and background

[amber dagger]

when the game is in the background

[chrome glen]

Like when u alt tab from the game?

[amber dagger]

yep

@chrome glen noticed your sharpness is 100%, I'd try 0% and go up from there

it's fake

"computer enchance"

[chrome glen]

Yeah i changed that to 0

[drifting berry]

Any guides on what settings to use when playing on Mac via NVidia GeForce NOW. My understanding is it should be able to support solid graphics via this route but thus far it's been pretty grainy. Performance is great though. Haven't seen anything I could turn up higher that isn't already.

[fast skiff]

id just disable dynamic res scaling and upscaling

and run in native res

sharpening to 0

assuming u got the ultimate tier

if u need more fps u can do dlss but I think a 4080 doesn't need

[drifting berry]

Yeah this is looking like it's working. I think I messed with settings too much earlier and made it worse.

[amber dagger]

it would be nice if macOS could downclock the cpu in games

the "low-power" frequency is good enough for 40-60 fps in most cases

[fast skiff]

are u subscribed to the ultimate plan? do u get like solid 144+fps in max settings at 1440p or 4k? I might resubscribe for a bit out of curiosity. My current gaming PC has a pretty old cpu and can't run the game well

since I only got 2ms to the geforce now servers it's going to be very responsive

anyway just subscribed to test

[amber dagger]

@chrome glen medium texture quality is a decent boost as well

~10% on my machine

[rough palm]

is it possible to play poe2 on mac m1 air ?

[lost pike]

i am curious about that too

i can download the game on steam, but whenever i try to start it, i got this error message...reinstalled twice, and checked the file integrity/validation as well 2 times

[proud igloo]

Are you trying to launch the game somehow through native macOS Steam? The game is not available natively for macOS at EA launch as per the FAQ.

Local exiles here have some amount of success running the Windows client through various wrappers.

[lost pike]

yeah, just read that right now :/ native macOS is not supported in the early access... only wine/whisky or another 3rd party emulation app will work i guess

[drifting berry]

Nvidia GeForce now has been working great for me.

Obviously has a cost but can't complain.

[rough palm]

works really well but next year it will limit 100h playing time per month per account so thats the downside

[drifting berry]

Honestly as someone trying to limit how much time they spend gaming that sounds like a win to me. Definitely sucks if you want to play more then a 100 though.

[fast skiff]

yeah same, tested earlier tonight. Got 3ms ping to nvidia servers, ultimate tier u just max everything at 4k and get your 120fps and hdr support. Nice thing with mac is also that it supports VRR for geforce now

[fast skiff]

according to nvidia this will only affect 6 percent of users, 94 percent are spending less time with geforce now (https://www.heise.de/en/news/Nvidia-limits-cloud-gaming-with-GeForce-Now-to-100-hours-per-month-10009214.html)
100 hours is still a lot for most people that can't play full time. Also if you can't reach the limit you will have 115 hours the next month

[edgy jacinth]

for those on GFN right now, what are the queue times like to play PoE2?

[rough palm]

They have to be specific because I haven't seen any ultimate users that don't use more than 100hours. I myself use GFN on an average 120h every month. Most of the 94% are free or performance users.