but most of the time it'll be bad
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prisma charm
next epoch
is the cap on attacks per second 30?
according to https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/375042#p3302046, there is effectively no cap
rustic mountain
Yeah, when I looked at POB it capped it at 30.03 or something due to server tick rate
violet nymph
It's a good leveling league
eager wraith
Is Kinetic blast a thing this league? I see some on Poeninja, but noone making guides.
runic sleet
General question, what's the meta for the league? I feel like BF with inpulsa would be rad for this league to counteract shit charging at you, or like... storm cloud autobombers -- but like, both of those aren't REALLY endgame.
eager wraith
Delivery system? You mean like fornother things linked?
violet nymph
Delivery system? You mean like fornother things linked?
Corrupting fever specificly
fervent geyser
is there a guide on how to spend blood crucible skill points?
desert maple
wow thanks for disconnecting me without any reason 😄
vernal isle
is there a guide on how to spend blood crucible skill points?
Depends on what you want to krangle I suppose
The single skill point options such as scourging uniques, extra slot, I think are all worth it
I think you can eventually get enough points to upgrade everything to max
rotund surge
So....I crash on every single portal of my map? Happening to somebody els?
tender pendant
haha scourage not funny
violet nymph
Err I just found the Pale Archangel boss in in t2 gardens and i literally do no damage to her, is there a special mechanic I need to know about?
Does she have CI or sth? Since im a TR build
celest atlas
select the boss it should say below the name
eager wraith
Corrupting fever specificly
Ahh yeah thank you.
desert maple
how does this setup work lol? O.o
indigo wolf
Fever and reap share the same 4 supports? I don't see the issue
Oh, I guess you're asking if that's a good set up for CF?
void breach
should i focus or build from start? or should i just play through the game and level up first
celest hound
at the very least you should decide what class you eventually want, everything else is changeable later (even ascendancy)
violet nymph
If they are new they should probably follow some build guide so they don't have a billion regrets they end up needing
slim forum
anyone seeing a lot of low level bases appearing more often for drops? I thought that once you leveled past them you wouldn't see those bases anymore. ex: ilvl 80 full plate(which is level 28)
violet nymph
I think filters end up hiding them
wet plaza
do we know when the third scourge item slot unlocks?
vernal isle
can drop from scourge boss iirc
wet plaza
ah thats sad, so i was unlucky
nova harbor
What does runic gages do anyone know
vernal isle
gages?
vernal isle
if you roll the dreaded increased phys dmg/deal no phys dmg, does conversion still benefit from it?
carmine canopy
yes
It's like Replica Cold Iron Point
Though they are getting rid of that combo some time next week
keen grail
what are people doing for solo currency making these days? i havent played much since they killed fractured mapping, is buying deli orbs for solo mapping worth it? or is there another good strat to go with now?
eager wraith
How come I see so many builds using divine flasks vs eternal?
versed marlin
When you roll life flasks for prefixes that include instant recovery the divine flask hp numbers are better, you don't care that it would usually take a longer period to recover that amount because the prefixes negate the flask duration
livid apex
what are people doing for solo currency making these days? i havent played much ...
for me, heist has been a nice baseline for pretty much everything
just showers you in general rewards, both direct currency and easily convertible commodities
sharp shadow
Is there a limit to how much you can scourge a map?
keen grail
10 times
fierce nebula
I’ve seen screenshots of several transform slots, when do I get more than one?
(or how)
Ah, that’s part of the scourge skill tree, right?
Yeah, seems like it, sorry for asking stupid questions 🤪
next epoch
Ah, that’s part of the scourge skill tree, right?
some of them are in the skill tree, some of them are obtained other ways
fierce nebula
Ah, right on. Thanks!
fluid musk
Can anyone link me a good scourge mechanic guide? I mainly wanna know which items I should put in the blood crucible and which passives to think on the scourge tree.
obsidian shale
So, uh, dumb question: how do I get an item to scourge tier 3? Just leave it in the crucible gathering corruption before transforming?
eager terrace
if the item is high enough level, after transforming it once it will resume gaining corruption
desert maple
is it me or does the filterblade not having that feature of stacked currency that is dropping?
spark kettle
warped trellis
Did they update the amount of time we can stay in temple rooms with Alva? It seems to me that I have wayyy less time than before despite nuking mobs
indigo wolf
I haven't noticed any difference. Magic mobs and rares provide more time, so maps with more get more time.
umbral ruin
some of them are in the skill tree, some of them are obtained other ways
so some are on tree but there are others obtainable in different ways what kind of ways do you need to do to get more than 2 cruicable slots and dream furnaces do you know by any chance?
magic delta
is it me or does the filterblade not having that feature of stacked currency tha...
It does.
violet sentinel
anyone here who has played poisonous concoction builds to endgame (or knows about it), does it work well? Afraid the scaling goes poorly after skill is maxed.
honest thicket
Did anyone farm legions in glennach? And did you use watchstones for it
violet nymph
so some are on tree but there are others obtainable in different ways what kind ...
Gotta find a cauldron in a nightmare. That's were those extra slots come from
crisp depot
Man trying to do a second character feels depressing
nova ginkgo
hello, is there someone with syndicate operative spectres rn? ifso can you desecrate some of them for me please 🙂
cunning blade
global channel 6666 for spectres
obtuse oar
i love when you die to some bullshit then the game crashes
wintry otter
I love when the game crashes and then you die 🤷♂️
crisp depot
Got my instance of a conqueror borked
little heron
Greatness achieved. Its one of the worst scourged uniques ever I guess?
opal river
hey guys, I need offering in scourge and nobody is answering me, anyone has some to sell ?
daring light
Whats the max ammount you can scourge upgrade?
livid lake
3 times for gear, 10 times for maps
next epoch
Great foe totems and pets i guess
the increased flask charges used absolutely kills this item
nova harbor
Um
prime imp
On what tier its worth it to keep influenced items corrupt?
hidden crest
Anyone wants me to use my maven orb on their item, 1exalt, i get the challenge you get it for half the cost
quaint gull
is there a chance to change the "deal no cold damage" if i get this to scourge level 3?
crisp tree
yes
quaint gull
aight, then ill pray. it didnt change from lvl 1 to lvl 2
barren gazelle
grim ether
What's the max scourge tier for maps ?
indigo wolf
10
south plover
I need motivation. Can anyone post pics of good scourges?
pastel lake
Yo, so i got all 16 watchstones but dont have sirus yet? do i have to spawn all conqs again?
shut magnet
Correct. The set of bosses you spawn with all the watchstones socketed is the set that activates Sirus
sullen scroll
Is there a tainted currency that rerolls the krangled implicits?
shut magnet
not too shabby
next epoch
I need motivation. Can anyone post pics of good scourges?
here's your scourgespiration ☝️
minor comet
Hello, I'm looking for some HC Scourge Demon Harpy spectres to desecrate. Um... what's the proper channel for that anyways? XD;
minor comet
Thanks. Yea, I did. Alas, no one so far
eager wraith
the increased flask charges used absolutely kills this item
I didnt even see that!
So leveling a bane occultist , about 73 now, in blue maps and scourges I am having such a hard time. Is it probably a gear issue?
thorny sparrow
looking to start league in the next hour or two, was hopin someone could give me league starter suggestion- maybe somethin that is new and wasn't expected to be strong?
violet nymph
still got t3 tho
real ingot
Yeah...
split pulsar
Anyone wants a free t14 redeemer (a8)?
I have one portal left and wont be able to do it
IGN: CanIFinalyGetGood
normal turtle
is this worth kranking in crucible? or i am gonna ruint it?https://gyazo.com/ec2208710cf5892ce0b79ba62a9bd1cf
proper widget
u have 3 tries to get something usable, but prob few builds can use it if it bricks
restive anvil
If you're worried at all I'd say don't krangle
If you don't give a shit then beyblade let it rip
normal turtle
yolo
eager wraith
Im playing bane occ but thinking about changing. What you guys think about end game viability for vortex/cold dot or kinetic blast/power siphon?
prisma charm
map is up to t4 transform now and still hasnt' lost random nightmare
real ingot
It could be worse but must the good mod be rank 1 and the bad mod rank 4?
empty hawk
anyone else have bad latency issue in shaper realm?
Im fine in maps and everything but as soon as I go to shaper I spike mega latency
real ingot
Hmm, idk if I should krangle
midnight gale
whats best way to get shavs in ssf this league anyone know?
fair venture
Any particular reasons why bane occ took over ed/c trickster this league? Like I’ve been playing with pobs and you can build both almost identical (hybrid/ll/ci) with trickster having higher damage while not compromising defence
Like I’m sure I’m missing something just don’t know what
Playstyle also feels smoother with Ed/c in scourges
desert maple
atomic oxide
I dont know if is the right channel but can someone help me with Minotaur guardian?
solemn nest
I was thinking reaching the 24 challenge mark didn't look too bad this time round... never mind.
Kind of a shame the challenges are always set up so it would require playing 24/7 the entire league to even have a chance...
For anything beyond the first 12
light adder
You are confusing 40 challenges with 24 in that statement
solemn nest
Fair point
But even 24... fx. scourging one of every item to t3 and reaching max level on the scourge tree would take an insane amount of time by the looks of it
I'm lvl84 and only have the map done at t3, no items done yet
I don't see how... I'm popping every scourge i can
Wat?
What even....? You literally just charge it to full, kill as much as you can before it ends, rinse and repeat?
How else are you supposed to progress it?
crisp tree
yep
solemn nest
You could say that about the entire game, yet here we are
Then tell me what I should be doing, instead of... well. Wasting time? Please?
Its hexblast ignite with blackflame. Its pretty darn quick at clearing.
But what am I supposed to do instead then?
I get you're saying skip scourges
But most of the other options seem even slower
runic zephyr
so even if the drops are T3, what exactly is the point if you still cant change the explicit mods in any way?
or did i miss something?
i dropped a t3 shield with really good scourge mods, but the explicits are trash. what can i do with it now?
prisma charm
sell it
There are tainted orbs you could use to reroll the stats, but… good luck with that
IMO the only things useful to transform as white are jewelry.
Maps should be rare, and it’s effectively a free Vaal plus potentially bonus currency/maps/league items
I’m thinking about sticking to lower tier maps for transforming, and focusing on things like fossils/scarabs/fragments/currency
Lower tier means I can brute force them with dam
vernal isle
On the other hand, more pack density should mean more rare mobs
which is what counts for scourged maps
tame wind
Hey guys, anyone able to help with Awakener 8 siruss?
I accidentally didn't take out watchstones and now i'm struggling..
dusky kernel
has any CI or LL people tried this mod? is it instant death
modern prawn
I've got one with that mod plus take 3000 Fire damage up entering a scourge nightmare. It's been a fat skip for me as I don't think 5k life is enough to live through
white oar
im getting absurd latency as soon as i enter a map with rare modifiers. anyone know whats happening?
dusky kernel
I've got one with that mod plus take 3000 Fire damage up entering a scourge nigh...
75% fire res makes that only 750 fire damage
deft saddle
In my opinion the new currencies should not exist and Scourging items should not corrupt them, it already has a downside, there was no reason to corrupt it. Corrupting items was already an exciting fully contained system in PoE.
prisma charm
I mean, I’m technically LL, but with petrified blood. That mod is very inconvenient, but I’ve been able to manage it with leech and flasks
deft saddle
In my opinion the new currencies should not exist and Scourging items should not...
Just dropping my feedback out of the blue 😂
prisma charm
Good feedback
I’ve never seen that argument
I generally agree. There’s certainly some very powerful things you can get with downsides that are free
That… kinda makes the corrupt make sense from that POV
modern prawn
Welp, thanks for the epiphany. I'm still fairly new so it never crossed my mind
prisma charm
But… iunno
If they got rid of the corrupt, I’d say also get rid of the white -> rare free alch part
I don’t foresee this league going core in a way similar to what it is now
long temple
how do i get the 3rd slot for scourge? ive killed the bosses probaby like 9 times already
dusky kernel
no one knows for sure, so far its either all of the scourge bosses (theres 3 types i think) or its a % chance for the quest item from one of them
so it isnt guaranteed
obsidian flower
How hard do Cooked scourge maps get?
Ie a 8x krangled tier 1 Map is the equailivent of what tier map nronally?
dusky kernel
no way of equating
its still a T1 just with more mods
so the mob hp is changed per the krangling and often those are only for the scourge mobs
so theres no way to equate because once you do something like 150% more damage it isnt worth comparing as one shot in a T1 is the same as a one shot in T15
fast crest
Got a map krangleing up quite nicely; keeps gaining -chance to block when I'm not block based and is getting more and more breach splinters
long temple
ive done all the scourge bosses so im guessing it's completely random them rip
livid apex
has any CI or LL people tried this mod? is it instant death
I have a map with that mod, might try it for science when I level
vernal isle
How hard do Cooked scourge maps get?
depends on the mods you roll
if you get 8 copies of a mod that is bad for your build it's more impossible than a t16
indigo wolf
I have a map with that mod, might try it for science when I level
It is
I ran a map thinking it just had "take physical damage equal to 0.2% of life/ES" then died instantly with full ES when I switched, because I failed to notice the "take 100 life damage per second" mod
gloomy mountain
I am at 30% ms and can kill fast enemies on screen. But man. Walking sucks while scourge bar decreases
real ingot
OH THANKS IT'S NOT LIKE I'M PLAYING ICE CRASH AHHAHAHHAAH
woeful halo
That's fine, you have 2 more chances to brick it even further 😄
real ingot
This is why I hate scourge...
The fact the negative mods don't act as a floor for the positive mods is dumb
@woeful halo Cuz losing 1 whole type of damage is TOTALLY worth 22 strength 
light adder
It´s almost as if scourge like vaal orbs is a gamble
violet nymph
i find K'tash, the Hate Shepherd
restive anvil
For a str stacker that deals no cold damage it's a perfect krangle
Many of the best downsides would be build breaking if they affected you at all, but if you have a build that doesn't even care the downside is irrelevant
storm crown
has any CI or LL people tried this mod? is it instant death
yes instant death
livid apex
hm hm
apparently scourge was somewhat foreshadowed in synthesis, though it wasn't very specific
wooden zephyr
how far have you all gotten in delve? i noticed a huge difficulty spike at 350, not sure if delve is supposed to wokr like that
nova harbor
You fkn serious
real ingot
Thank fucking god it doesn't suck
livid apex
nice
real ingot
@livid apex I can't believe this item has no downsides whatsoever (for my build)
solemn nest
Blows My mind why Asenaths gentle Touch is so expensive this league 
light adder
By "this league" you mean every league for ages?
fervent geyser
i'm new to this league, does scourage equipment always give one bad stats+1 good stats?
and basically a new player idk which stats to avoid is there like a site or guide or vid explaining this?
what stats to avoid and stuff
silver kettle
i'm new to this league, does scourage equipment always give one bad stats+1 good...
by default yes. you can get a blood crucible passive that gives you a chance to get a second upside mod on items you transform, and the scourge bosses in the endgame drop uniques that have two upsides and two downsides, but otherwise, yeah one upside one downside
fervent geyser
by default yes. you can get a blood crucible passive that gives you a chance to ...
is there a guide on which upgrade to go for and which item i scourage or don't scourage the item?
violet nymph
I don't think there is.
But all points are achievable through grinding corruption in scourge areas and maps
thorny warren
What's the general best things to scourge to start farming currency? So far I've been tossing maps in and 6 socket gear that have 5 links hoping it 6 links it for me
prisma charm
can't believe i don't have -mana this far into the league
livid apex
What's the general best things to scourge to start farming currency? So far I've...
t1 maps - barring that, 5-socket 4-link items from vendors
thorny warren
Why t1 maps?
thorny warren
For context I'm farming t12ish atm
livid apex
you can go higher tier if you want, just always have at least one map cooking
or two/three if you have that many slots
thorny warren
And worth to toss in 6 socket 5 links if they drop?
cunning mesa
can someone tell me what build alkaizerx is playing atm?
candid cairn
spectral helix
cunning mesa
ty, I am playing poison blade vortex atm. But I am not sure if its viable this league
pliant mauve
Guys is it better to farm quarry of blood aqueducts for resistance gear when i get to maps
becuz t1 are melting me haha
cerulean cliff
Guys is it better to farm quarry of blood aqueducts for resistance gear when i g...
Heist probably
carmine sentinel
does amount of rares added via sextants/zana mods add rares to crangleverse too?
novel juniper
graceful knot
does atlas passives or watchstones affect Corrupted Scourge Maps?
like would there be more packs of monsters if i roll that on a watchstone and the corrupted map is in that area?
violet nymph
Should
fading cloak
New to this league, still progressing through the acts. I haven't had a tainted orb of any sort drop so far in scourge. Is my rng that terrible or does it only drop in maps?
fading cloak
I see.
If let's say it does drop, it'll still stay after the timer is up right? Like, I can go back and collect it, or do I have to collect it while in nightmare?
light adder
Will stay in normal realm, but you have to backtrack to them
fading cloak
Alright thanks
shut magnet
Do the Scourge bosses drop anything noteworthy? Everytime I encounter one I feel like I stubbornly burn 2-3 deaths on it just to end up with a bunch of garbage corrupted rares.
light adder
Bunch of rares, so far always one krangled unique item, some tainted currency
shut magnet
So no big ticket chase items? Feels not worth then until my character is at the point where I can do them with less risk
indigo wolf
The uniques always have 2 positive 2 negative mods, so they're chase in a sense
They can also drop items to add a third map or item slot to your crucible (rare but nontradeable)
shut magnet
Oh neat, I got the 3rd item slot (which I never use) but a 3rd map slot would be nice.
shut magnet
So I just killed Sirus at awakening level 5, and I got credit for the "Defeat Sirus at an awakening level 8 or more without being hit by any spinning negation beams" challenge
prisma charm
😂
runic zephyr
scourge maps are really great but am i the only one who has huge problems to actually find rares? they seem pretty, well, rare, and they are so hard to see
being dark on dark and often small mobs i just dont see that they are there lol
indigo wolf
Rares seem to stand out okay for me. Either you're killing absolutely everything anyway and rares are the last to die, or (at low mob density) mob packs are spread thin and you can see rares in the middle of the pack they spawn in
runic zephyr
they are the last to die but i still dont see them somehow, especially the spiders because they have such a small profile
prisma charm
I have trouble seeing much of anything in the nightmare realm tbh
Contributes to how I approach it… wildly firing at the ground and leaping often
paper kiln
Poe getting real laggy in the evening or just me ? (eu west)
neat rover
how do you unlock third slot for krangling
i killed 3 bosses already
also
i still have 2
wet plaza
random boss drop
wet plaza
took me a while 🙂
dark linden
can someone give me baranite preacher pls?
graceful knot
are there certain maps that are preferred to corrupt in crucible? like are some maps more dense on rares than others or what not? and do you do them in a certain area with atlas passives etc?
real ingot
Well encounters occur within both worlds
So some mechanics may actually difficult the fight
While not providing any bonuses to scourge packs like natural spawns
indigo wolf
I would avoid any of the poe2 maps that were added a few leagues ago. Except maybe silo.
The density on those maps feels much lower than other maps
graceful knot
ok i don't think i know what the poe 2 maps are
indigo wolf
I can't name them all off the top of my head, but stagnation, grave trough, and silo are 3.
graceful knot
does rolling for pack size matter? chiseling the maps?
I see most people just alch and put it in
crisp tree
yeah but save chisels for high tier maps
dense ruin
Silo is quite a nice map
Except for the fact that it's just one path
If they made is so you could like open up paths
Would be nice, too much to expect out of ggg tho
violet nymph
I like its almost linear path. Gotten real lucky with density in it for nightmares
graceful knot
ok ty for answers 🙂
nova harbor
Um
marsh oracle
How come blight ravaged maps are so cheap?
proper widget
blight maps are slow
frail hill
Is there any advantage to scourging up to tier 3 if you're happy with the krangle outcome after it hits tier 3 of scourge? I know that it can still roll extra sockets/links/etc. but beyond that, the actual scourge mods don't get better necessarily at tier 3 than they do tier 1, right?
prisma charm
i'm pretty sure they do
but if you're hapopy with the current outcome,
best bet is to stay
sacred bone
patch notes: Scourged items are no longer be able to generate downsides that would directly counteract their upside.
isnt this the point of the mechanic
(other than to yeet items into oblivion)
violet nymph
Whats the highest damage on nightmare shift?
frail hill
patch notes: Scourged items are no longer be able to generate downsides that wou...
It means that they won't give you something like:
Deals 10-24 fire damage
Deal no fire damage
violet nymph
Verbal diarrhea
carmine canopy
so nothing changes
storm crown
Uber blight are rippy
lone whale
but now what will be posted to the poe subreddit?
I mean you can still scourge the tempest for +1 level of bow gems/deal no lightning damage
Just can't get scourge mods that counteract each other
boreal urchin
Did they nerf krangled maps?
vernal isle
I thought they buffed them
twilit venture
Can TR champ do t16 300scourge stacks well enough?
fierce osprey
Hi guys! About to start the league. Any recommendation on a cheap starter build thats fun to level with as well as maps? Im thinking about going reap witch, but what do you guys recommend? Thank you 🙂
obsidian flower
For Ryslatha's Coil- do you want a high (40) less minimum damage roll or a low (30) one?
livid lake
high high, low low
so the MORE should be as close to 40 as possible, and the low as close to 30 as possible
obsidian flower
Gotcha ty
livid lake
also be careful with quality as it could tip the less into a higher number but not the high
ruby fulcrum
thanks chris for awesome bugs after latest patch - no single scourge rare on map
haughty oracle
what happend to the modifiers you can blow up in expedition ?
loud kindle
Hi guys! About to start the league. Any recommendation on a cheap starter build ...
extremely low-investment would be poisonous concoction occultist or pathfinder. great clear, too. I transitioned into a scourge arrow build shortly after, still, it was great for leveling.
fierce osprey
extremely low-investment would be poisonous concoction occultist or pathfinder. ...
Thank you! I will try that then 🙂
austere whale
thanks scourge...
prisma charm
1 more chance
tiny matrix
hello, does anyone know any good molten strike build ?
ornate flower
how do I unlock 3rd slot
violet sentinel
how do you get Academy Map? Trying to get the enlightened hideout
violet nymph
how do I unlock 3rd slot
Boss random drop, veiled cauldron
Turn into league npc
Receive slot
hollow blade
lunar osprey
do the beyond sextants stack? when running nem 3?
spiral fractal
Hey, did they remove 3% increased effects on your curses for medium cluster jewels? Cant find any (not even white) of them in trade lol
silver kettle
yes, it's been moved to smalls
spiral fractal
ohh dang
bronze arch
anyone know how do i add TFT channel ?
fair aspen
I think I won scourge. Anyone need another brick for their house?
manic pivot
is there a unique list worth krangling?
hoary snow
is there a unique list worth krangling?
if it's total junk you might be able to make it less junk
bronze crater
So I get a 3-link every time and waste more normal fusings. What's funnier?
lunar ridge
so, whats the strat for scourged maps? t1s or yellows?
density of rares in white maps is pretty shit
bronze crater
I've seen that you should scourge lower tier's since the reward difference from higher maps is negligible.
lunar ridge
only some of the rewards depend on ilvl, yeah, but a t7 map is gonna have more rares than a t1, right?
bronze crater
That idk about.
main plank
hi mates, after a long time i decided to play again but when will season end?
or is there any site that i can track timer
honest egret
main plank
thanks!
desert maple
honestly i dont understand how the scourge mechanic is shifting me back to normal when i still damaging the boss
im playing cf galdiator and im dot based so am i lacking in damage
are the scourge bosses time restricted?
livid lake
you need to deal 5% of boss life to get 5 seconds of frozen scourge time
desert maple
lol
hate time restricted leagues ...
still pike
hello, can this mod be negated by any means? or I take 6k dmg no matter what
indigo wolf
Generic PDR (not armor) works.
I don't know all the sources but endurance charge is a common one
"Take physical as [element]" too but that's not easy to stack.
still pike
it's considered a degen right so fortify won't work?
indigo wolf
I don't think it's a degen, but fortify only works on hits (like armor), so I don't think it would help
still pike
ok thank you very much!
violet nymph
so, whats the strat for scourged maps? t1s or yellows?
Roll more rares, scourge multi type drops per rare. Do maps with a naturally high density or extremely linear. Map tier doesn't really matter, but low level maps do scourge faster.
You're just looking for rares to kill for the various splinters or currency drops.
indigo wolf
What zana mod? Bloodlines for magic packs to fill scourge meter?
None of the other league content seems to fill the gauge as quickly as a pack of magic mobs native to the map, and there aren't any mods to force more rares on the map
wintry otter
Nemesis forces more rares with packs, or at least more dangerous rares
Essence guarantees 3, breaches spawn some too
Idk what leagues are available this season tho
wintry otter
Generic PDR (not armor) works.
So endurances, take phys as X, woild Divine Flesh work?
indigo wolf
Nemesis isn't an option, I agree it would be the best choice for more rares if it were
Essence mobs don't seem to count for scourge, they only add to the "natural" map spawns.
Likewise einhar, abyss, ambush. Beyond, breach and legion "overlap" with scourge (beyond/breach/legion/influence mobs are present in both worlds but don't count as scourged for scourged map mods)
Divine Flesh is elemental damage, it wouldn't help against the physical damage mod
The elemental damage mods are affected by resists already so they're not as bad. 9k phys kills my CI but 9k lightning barely moves my ES.
flat oriole
Hi guys, how do I improve number of 'rare scourge' monster? Any zana mod useful? or sacrab?
wintry otter
Divine Flesh is elemental damage, it wouldn't help against the physical damage m...
Bugger me, i forgot Divine Flesh is ele as chaos. Taste of Hate is Phys tskent cold, or is it phys gaines as cold, i keep mixing them all up. Are there any options that are more than 6-8% phys as 'random ele' on armour pieces?
carmine canopy
Chieftan has 20% phys as fire IIRC
indigo wolf
It occurs to me all the "phys damage taken as [element]" are "taken from hits" so these might not also work (didn't think about the wording until I went looking up Taste of Hate)
prisma charm
Are you trying to figure out how to mitigate a scorged map thing
Pretty much, armor. run a flask for that map
indigo wolf
Nah, the problem is exactly that armor doesn't seem to help against "take physical damage when you shift into or out of nightmare"
prisma charm
🤷♂️
I don’t recall being 1shot by it
Maybe I have something else at play
The term hit refers to an effect that applies a discrete amount of damage to a target instantaneously.
silver kettle
Nah, the problem is exactly that armor doesn't seem to help against "take physic...
Armour does mitigate it
late shadow
LF stoneskin Flayers / Lithomancers ❤️ ssc
silver kettle
The damage on shift is a hit. Any damage that isn't DoT is a hit
indigo wolf
Welp. I guess there's nothing else I can say to that.
All I knew was that at 26000 armor, 9000 hit was killing me with 6.6k ES.
Unless I config'ed or got the numbers wrong, PoB says that should be 36% reduction and 5700 damage
I've changed my gear around since then so I will need to make another 9000 map to test it again
shrewd quarry
Gauntlet practice run here guys https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/join/Scourge+Gauntlet+Playground/fL1mSmT2AYrB1JQn7bbl
prisma charm
What you’re getting from pob matches my napkin math
Would have taken 4K or less after armor
In my case it’s mitigated by 20xfortify, 10k armor (at most mitigating ~2k), and then petrified blood to turn most of the hit into a dot
fierce osprey
hey peeps just started the league was wonderinf if anyone could spare a tabula to make the leveling easier. Cheers 😄
quasi bolt
hey peeps just started the league was wonderinf if anyone could spare a tabula t...
add me, ign is lilratbaby
fierce osprey
add me, ign is lilratbaby
Cheers! ^^
keen raptor
Did I finally hit a good krangle?
livid lake
seems good
glass ibex
guys, where can i find the 4 SOCKET RECIPE? ty ❤️
olive torrent
Necropolis map I think. Find it on the crafting bench and it tells you where to unlock it.
crisp tree
🤡
grave swallow
I think that the best source of PDR is Imortal Call + Endurance Charges, u can achieve +80% PDR.
81.25% with 5 endurance charges, but it still hard to make it usefull with the nightmare shift
prisma charm
I need to stop being lazy and set up a defensive skill
I don’t even have a CWDT or pcoc
I don’t think I necessarily need a CWDT, but having steel skin on leftclick would probably be better than nothing
heady tusk
lul
jovial spear
how high does the "Take x damage when you shift into nightmare" mod go? I'm at 12k not sure if i want to keep pushing lmao
next epoch
how high does the "Take x damage when you shift into nightmare" mod go? I'm at 1...
it's 3k per stack, can go all the way up to 30k if you roll that mod every time (and there are some examples of this on trade)
jovial spear
zoinks, guess i'll pull that out of the krangler
next epoch
this one looks especially awful, for example
there are some other horrifying combos on trade, like taking damage when you shift and taking damage over time whenever you're able to shift
prisma charm
30 ex for 3 additional white maps per rare
jolly bolt
so are divergent gems worth alot?
indigo wolf
Depends. Just like normal gems, most aren't used enough to be valuable.
Some are meta enough to be valuable.
Which might mean selling for 30c (as opposed to listing for 10c and never selling ever)
Or it could be worth multi ex
slender temple
this one looks especially awful, for example
normal sirus meteor on shfit
next epoch
normal sirus meteor on shfit
... and randomly, too. 🔥💀🔥
slender temple
thats nutty
next epoch
surprise test of strength fire resistance, exile!
swift dune
Anyone got any good league starter builds for hardcore scourge I'm having trouble finding them
sacred onyx
this one looks especially awful, for example
the hell is sum
zenith nimbus
On scourge thingers, does "reduced life recovery rate"
Mean your regen per second? Or does it mean like from flasks and stuff?
next epoch
the hell is sum
sum of fire + lightning + physical damage taken when you shift -- I was using that to find all maps with unusually high damage taken on shift https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/nb5vRmJT0
sacred onyx
oh interesting
next epoch
what I didn't know until I wrote that search is that only one of the three damage types can roll on a map
prisma charm
On scourge thingers, does "reduced life recovery rate"
Mean your regen per secon...
All forms of life recovery
leech, flasks, regen,
on hit,
zenith nimbus
Thank you!
past haven
so the krangle tier mod upgrades ... they're backwards right?
they're strict downgrades?
pseudo furnace
crisp smelt
Have they addressed the sudden increase in stutters and drop in performance from that last patch. Game is unplayable for me.
pastel mauve
Yeah, happens to me aswell sometimes, my ping will randomly go insane in maps
fixes itself when i leave the map and come back
vivid igloo
anyone want to speedrun 8-14 maps for xp and luls ?
narrow grotto
Yeah, they definitely changed some difficulties in the earlier acts
fiery edge
Good one
rough wadi
anyone have demon harpy specter in hc
ebon locust
how do you do this challenge?
violet nymph
probably in mavin's circle
indigo wolf
Or a twinned modifier on a 3 boss map, like uh... racecourse I think is one
carmine canopy
I think Garden is one of the 3 boss ones as well
livid lake
twinned courtyard
devout osprey
my c*ck ring
undone totem
Why is it impossible to find a arc build guide this season?
eager terrace
nice 3 socket iron ring
rare sequoia
next epoch
essences. which is to say, garbage
tough zealot
anyone playing hc trade?
fallow thistle
hey, I'm trying to do the "do not get hit by the Weight of Judgement" achieveiemnt during fight with Baran - I was far away when he was doing his slam attack (dashed away), but my mirror archer was left behind - still I've got failed achievemnt; is the mechanics broken and mirror archer is counted as the player was hit?
nova harbor
Yep
fervent shoal
anyone got pale angel spectre and can share it ?
glad crest
I need someones help, does anyone have the primeval ruins in there delve i need a spectre from there for my dd vd spellslinger, can anyone help?
ashen frigate
loot from t1 haunted mansion scourge 10 map, not bad
strange harness
Can anyone recommend me a good build guide for skeleton mages? I have like 20 ex
Tanky with good damage
solemn nest
Anyone know how to craft the "ring of exile" etc. for the challenge rewards? I've done it 4 times now with no result...
light adder
light adder
"doesn't register" meaning what, you started with white ring and the vendor doesn´t give you ring of the lost, or what?
solemn nest
As in the challenge/achievement doesn't give me the checkmark
I get the ring, the recipe works etc.
It just doesn't complete the challenge
light adder
try "/recheck_achievements" in chat ingame
solemn nest
Already have done
burnt lichen
ANYONE IN NA WANNA MAKE NEW CHARS TOGETHER?
errant hollow
surreal sentinel
anyone got a free quil rain?
nocturne whale
so how can i unlock 3rd crucible item slot?
faint heron
@nocturne whale it's a drop from a boss I believe
Are prices inflated on playstation as compared to pc?
I feel like the gear I need is way more then the guide for the build I'm following is. Idk
crisp tree
yep
nocturne whale
is it just really low drop chance? im on my 3rd 95 char? and still havent unlocked it
faint heron
I know its random. Not sure of the chance.
violet nymph
so how can i unlock 3rd crucible item slot?
Veiled Cauldron I believe drops. You turn into the league NPC.
nocturne whale
@violet nymph thanks. but whats the chance for a boss to drop it. after 3 95s i figured it woulda dropped by now but i guess my rng is just fucked
violet nymph
I've had two bosses and no drops.
Random
Any big city slicka want to run my 100% deli map? t14 arid lake. 3 currency, 2 map orbs on it.
jade aurora
anyone got a spare tabula i could dump all my currency into
empty hawk
I didnt even know this was possible
Looks like I need to find some grand black scythe LOL
wild prawn
So, is there a sheet or something with % of scourge mods?
violet nymph
Poedb
charred wind
if there is a party of two players, can both use links skills on his party member at the same time ?
fallen terrace
6Ls are hella cheap this league but how hard is it to actually create one yourself
like if you start with a 4l/6s you have to like get a 15% roll twice right
fallen terrace
oh i was talking about using the crucible
tainted fuses probably have some hidden math too
blissful onyx
I mean sure but who uses the crucible lmao
fallen terrace
idk what random shit to even stick there
blissful onyx
6L your item and get a shitty corrupt too
I just throw random uniques in there
And forget they exist
fallen terrace
that being said how much easier is it to get a 6l with tainted fuses than regular ones
blissful onyx
Significantly
Slap 5L proph or harvest on an item
Corrupt
Tainted fuse is 50/50 chance of adding or removing a link
Or just start with a 4L and go from there
violet nymph
tainted fuses probably have some hidden math too
Put of 4 fuses used on a 6S 5L, the last one got me a six link.
And it took about 5 chromws to hit the colors I needed
empty hawk
None of those things go together 😐
fervent shoal
does anyone have Pale Angel spectre and can share ?
livid lake
Do mines count as aura?
yes
violet nymph
the only context where a mine isn't an aura is blastchain
though you won't get much out of high impact in those gloves cause it'd only level up the support
warped trellis
Isn't the game client getting more and more unstable? I've never had as many crashes as during this league.
fair venture
what happens if i equip scourged item with -X to maximum life when im running CI?
finite dove
i dont think it does anything since ci sets it to 1 havent tested personally tho
daring lodge
what happens if i equip scourged item with -X to maximum life when im running CI...
you have a scourged item with no downside
same with chaos res scourged items
been abusing this to fill the dex requirement for my build lol
wintry otter
So CI doesn't die when equipping -max life items?
fair aspen
i wish you did, would be amusing. I've got a lovely tabula that ended up with -2 socketed gems I need to see if it actually does anything lol
prisma charm
when you finally get an elreon veiled ring, and it doesn't have -mana
hasty tulip
where do i sign up?
austere whale
so apparently 10 mil TR dps is not even close for the uber breachstones xd
eager terrace
did you fail on the approach or the breach lord
copper estuary
what does scourge levels do on an item?
is it like another "chance" to roll mods?
austere whale
did you fail on the approach or the breach lord
approach
breach lord probably wouldve been easy
eager terrace
yeah the main check seems to be the approach
I would say try to not rush too hard even if it feels like you're slipping on time
dying is a guaranteed loss but the timer stops much earlier than usual because of how fast the expansion is
eager terrace
yeah fair enough, it's pretty aggressive
austere whale
and it's better to rush cos I'm deadeye so if I rush my mirages do work behind
eager terrace
which stone was it?
austere whale
ulnethol
eager terrace
mmm yeah that layout is very hard
if you just want the challenge try xoph's
the lack of walls and barriers will make it much easier on the approach for proj build
austere whale
nah I wanna do all of them for the challenge, this one was the first that ropped
I mean challenge as in challenge for myself, not league challenge
eager terrace
gotcha
yeah it's mostly a hard DPS check on the approach just remember it'll finish before you're even halfway up the map
austere whale
thinking of making a cluster that has the explody mod, maybe that helps
indigo wolf
Do you actually have 10M or is that based on certain stuff that takes time to build, like wither
austere whale
I have 10m with 9 stacks of wither which I put up with one step
with everything ticked I'M at like 14mil
ofc that's with 3 mirages
so yes its not"really" 10mil
at least not on one targe
t
violet nymph
Does 1 caustic arrow 6l or ballista tr give you more dps as a desdeye
austere whale
havent even tried CA
swift trout
anyone who can help spawn in a demon harpy spectre?
austere whale
so no idea
violet nymph
Do you use a 2nd TR 6L?
austere whale
I use ballistas
lemme check how much CA would be compared
nah, a single ballista does more dps basically
not to mention withering touch
austere whale
even with 3 pods it only needs 2 ballistas to be better 😛
prisma charm
blissful onyx
Redundant Roots of Redundancy
austere tulip
alright what tier maps and tier should I scourge to?
I just did a Tier 10 tier 1 map and not only was there only a single rare enemy in the entire map that sent me into the nightmare aside from the boss, but I couldn't deal any damage to any of them
compact grove
I do T1-T5 and up to 10 scourge depending on the rewards. If it gets too much dmg on shift, or the rewards are looking like crap I stop
violet nymph
even with 3 pods it only needs 2 ballistas to be better 😛
Mmmmm. I may change up my stuff. How does it do when you entire a nightmare and gotta go zoomzoom
violet nymph
alright what tier maps and tier should I scourge to?
For easy scourge ten loot drops, to t1 to t5 like kale said.
Shits bonkers
I wish I had like ten map slots to scourge
austere tulip
I found out the reason I couldn't do any damage in the map, I had equipped an extra toxic rain t my helmet to level up and it overwrote the toxic rain I had equipped for some reason
so I was trying to do a fully upgraded scourge map with a level 1 gem
austere whale
Mmmmm. I may change up my stuff. How does it do when you entire a nightmare and ...
I mean regular TR is more than enough for me there
sage thorn
People probs already realized that the "Ravenous" Scourge monsters reuse the models of the Delirium monsters.
violet nymph
I mean regular TR is more than enough for me there
I've gotta work on my tr then. I feel like I can zoom zoom faster with CA+pierce as it covers the entire screen in one shot.
violet nymph
Gotta zoooomzoooooooom
frail kestrel
Any test heist beads for Regal to Exalt this league? Any deceent?
dense ruin
alright what tier maps and tier should I scourge to?
Was it alced
Rare alced with like 7x like decks or splinters
Is gonna get you an ex
If you can run it
Mostly just don't upgrade take physical damage on nightmare maps
nocturne mortar
guys quick question , for the challenge Transform Items II , i have either curse on hit , reservation efficiency or keystone passive modifier , which is the easiest to get for the challenge and how should i proceed ? i've been trying to transform amulets 68+ item level for the efficiency up to tier 2 , but no success , am i doing something wrong ?
prisma charm
Rng challenges are fun
marsh dew
hello, can somebody kill sirus for me?
runic zephyr
there HAS to be some fucky scourge mob bug?? i just did a tier 6 scourge map, that had at least 80quant, i cleared the entire map and found TWO!! rare mobs?
fair aspen
Yea. Happened to me on one of my better reward ones. Map, 2 unique and an incubator. Saw one rare lol
prisma charm
Did a Vaal pyramid, had basically no scourge mobs in it
Literally no mobs maybe?
Happens
Wonder if it’s just certain maps
tawny pasture
some map have less monster than other
wintry otter
I tried Stagnation, forgot to alch though, got me 10 or so rares, i collected about 30 gems, so idk. What white maps are good to scourge? Layout/amount wise. Is Strand still good?
tepid belfry
iirc the amount of rares in scourged maps doesn't really change based on map tier
i saw a ton of people run tier 1 haunted mansion
austere whale
is there any particular strat for easy blight ravaged maps? I read something about the stun towers
cobalt wyvern
faint heron
Can't seem to find asenaths chant in market? Only asenaths mark. What I am doing wrong here?
Nevermind. Found it. Pricey one!!!
twilit venture
are totems surviving at all to do shit in t16 scourge shit?
dense ruin
sheesh
molten stag
whats wrong with wicked weapon recipe now? tried like 10 different weapons and nothing works
ivory axle
does the nemisis sextant not exist anymore? ive just ran through 5 exalt of awakened sextants and haven't rolled it once (yes im blocking
runic zephyr
does the nemisis sextant not exist anymore? ive just ran through 5 exalt of awak...
it does
copper roost
Are the strongbox atlas nodes generally worth spec'ing into? Anyone tried them out?
violet nymph
You guys think rf is any good for this league?
crisp tree
cobalt wyvern
You guys think rf is any good for this league?
For clear? Sure
lean drift
worth cooking?
dense ruin
Breach splinters are alright
Mods are easy
But why tf are you scourging a dungeon map
Why do that to yourself
violet nymph
I think Legacy was super easy and then also dark shrine 5 week
main temple
is there a cheatsheet regarding syndicate boss rewards?
prisma charm
Yeah
“Syndicate cheat sheet” in google should bring you to the one on poelab
Still missing my -mana craft 😦
Been a really unlucky league for me, got my second naked exalt drop last night total for the league
main temple
“Syndicate cheat sheet” in google should bring you to the one on poelab
okay thanks a lot
did the cheatsheet not change form league to league
nvm got it
prisma charm
The only big ticket item I’m missing that I can’t just make myself is a watchers eye, and for that I need 8+ ex
Crafting-wise next big upgrade is a glove with +dam per impale
-mana will let me replace life tap with brutality
that’d bring me up to 8mil bossdps, which I could improve further with berserk
This is my new fav leaguestarter
deep plinth
Anyone got any decent mods doing the scourge corruption yet ?
fair aspen
-2 socketed gems on my tabula. But it got lethe shade!
prisma charm
Got a decent mod on my koam’s roots, too bad it was the same mod that koam’s roots is known for
I think I’d want cannot be chilled, to eliminate the annoyance of chilled patch maps
timid geyser
I think I’d want cannot be chilled, to eliminate the annoyance of chilled patch ...
Chilled ground is an action speed modifier so kaom's roots already ignores it.
prisma charm
Yes
I meant on any other boots
This for example, 70%… better’n nothing. Just useless on koam’s
timid geyser
Yeah, funny mod on roots 
obsidian terrace
lf SO spectre, can anyone share please?
prisma charm
Hmmm
Continuing to cook a map vs running it at tier 1
If you run it, you open that slot to cook another map…
Guess it depends on what you get at t1/2
If it’s a currency or fragment that isn’t good, stop early
violet nymph
This is my new fav leaguestarter
Whats the build?
prisma charm
Steel champ, all three skills depending on situation
The ST dam of lancing, plus the clear speed of the other two, how easy it is to gear,
violet nymph
Impale build?
prisma charm
Yea
violet nymph
It's a great set of leveling skills
prisma charm
And now with DW block improved + spell suppression it has some really good defensive layering
And petrified blood for the dam boost of LL and dam converted to dot
Huge
Almost constant adrenaline uptime in maps
vernal isle
anyone else not running heist because of extra lag
I think I had two quest contracts toss me from the servers this league
kinda discouraging
prisma charm
I’m not running them because I want to gain another level, and last time I was in there on this toon it felt a little risky
Also dealing with trades while doing it isn’t fun
vernal isle
whose idea was making rogue harbob a mtxfest anyway
"hmmm yes our players love town areas. let's make them deal with one every time they engage with a mechanic"
maybe niko's encampment will become public next
because delve has to be made less fun to do
prisma charm
It should just be a hideout thing
Remove all the misc quests we get along the way
I have 5 of them sitting in my inventory that I don’t want to do right now but can’t get rid of
vernal isle
what's even the point of quests that don't end in boss heists
indigo wolf
Got to a map and drop the quest contracts if you don't want to do them
ivory axle
Anyone able to suggest a build for farming simulacrums consistently on a like say 20 ex budget?
Looked at a bunch that can do wave 30 but no ones saying if they can clear em constantly or they took 10 tries and did it once and posted a video
nova harbor
What is this??
devout osprey
what is what
eternal badger
is anyone else crashing from an Art/Skeleton directory error message? i literally cant do anything, every map im getting that error and crashing client / losing instance i cant find any info anywhere online
next epoch
@eternal badger leftover decorations from halloween, obviously 😉
slim solar
Is there still the bug/feature/whatever, that the phys.dmg from the Scourge Map will not or nearly not be mitgated? I have 90% phys dmg reduction, but with 9000 physdmg I just die with 6000 life
the elemental dmg reduction works from scourge maps
wet plaza
did you check your %phys reduction in pob or just the char sheet? sheet lies with the % from armor
slim solar
I have around 50k armor
violet nymph
Is there still the bug/feature/whatever, that the phys.dmg from the Scourge Map ...
iirc all the "take damage when you enter scourge" mods are multiplied by damage mods
which might make that phys hit a much bigger phys hit and therefore be mitigated by armor less
slim solar
when you have phys as extra element dmg mod on the map... yee..
wet plaza
hm weird but yeah phys is kinda fucky
slim solar
Thats what a reddit guy said: "I think the Mechanic is bugged atm. I get one shot with 40k armor "90% phys reduction" (flasks up, 8% phy reduction on watchers eye, 3 endurance chages) 6k life from the mod "Take 15000 Physical damage"."
so even with 6k, what mods have to be on the map to kill you with 6k life? when you "should" get a base physdmg of 1500 with the 90% reduction
or it had phys as extra cold/lightnign whatever
violet nymph
maybe it isn't getting mitigated by armor
slim solar
than it's not counted as hit, but flat dmg... that would be awkward and only lowered by "reduced phys dmg taken"... while element dmg is reduced by just resistance
I can easy playy 15k element dmg maps... but I stop at 9k at the moment on phys... more is not doable with 5k life and 50k armor and 5 enduring charges
depending on the loot mods ... its rare that I get so far on a scourge map... normally I stop scourging ith because the rewards are shit and I just run it
prisma charm
A rule of thumb with the new Armour formula is that if you want to get 50% mitigation against a physical damage hit, you need 5 times the damage as Armour
You need to reduce by more than 50%… but 40k armor isn’t even going to get you to 50% against a hit that big
You’d need more ways of reducing the hit, like physical to an element
Or petrified blood converting 40% of it into a dot in addition to the armor reduction, etc
9k is pretty close to your max
At 50k and 5k life
blissful cargo
Ok so question, has any one seen a scourge boss recently? Myself and the 4 guys i play with have not seen a single scourge boss at all and we are constantly doing krangleverse (we know the signs to look out for if the boss has spawned)
wet plaza
yes last map had one for me
novel hamlet
I swear buying sacrifice fragments is the most painful shit every league
indigo wolf
Technically it is 10x easier this league, given stacks.
swift briar
Trying to chose what Atlas passives is quite the experience. Can't decide between some.
indigo wolf
I do wish we got some extra atlas passive points instead of keeping it at 10
dense ruin
than it's not counted as hit, but flat dmg... that would be awkward and only low...
Like a guy said before
Your characters phys dmg sheet is a lie
9k will do like 5k or smth to you
And if there is like -20% armor mod, you're dead
The physical damage taken mod is just completely unbalanced
wintry otter
Someone said a whe ago, they thought armor doesn't work on scourge map mod, just general PDR things like endurance charges and "phys taken as element" work
wintry otter
Was that you? 😁 Huh, good to know about that
indigo wolf
I mean, there might be other people who had the same belief in conversations I wasn't involved in
I just had the situation that viper set me straight directly.
prisma charm
It’s more a case of people overestimating the power of armor
And assuming it’s not working when they get 1shot when thinking they shouldn’t
wintry otter
Im just thinking now, what defenses would be needed to mitigate a 30k phys hit
As I've seen 30k fire on shift
prisma charm
well, there’s probably an upper limit of armor you’d want to have to mitigate that, meaning you’d need other ways of further reducing it
Phys to element
There’s also your on use defensive skills like steel skin or molten shell
Fortify
livid void
which is the best map to scourge?
prisma charm
Depends on your goals
I started out doing white maps, now I do yellow maps. My goal is just maximizing the rewards from killing rares in nightmare, so I go with the highest tier I can safely complete it with
If the first scourge is one I don’t want, I run it and start another. If it’s a good one, I let it keep cooking till it’s borderline too difficult
bitter locust
If the first scourge is one I don’t want, I run it and start another. If it’s a ...
Does the first scourge influence future ones?
river forge
How does the Savior work with energy blade
violet nymph
It doesn't @river forge
rose pasture
Hows EB is actually, I saw Mathil were starting to do a EB build, but lost track of it due to work, is it go well afterall?
wintry otter
From what little i saw it was going decent, but then you also have Mathil, decent for him is probably god-tier for the rest of us plebs. He did say you kinda have to scale everything at once. Scale ES for lotsa lightning damage, dont forget your life and damage on tree, kinda have to go crit because of ridiculous 7.7% crit chance at 20% quality. Ideally link it to Enhance for even more crit
He did mention Energy Blade might be one of most overlooked skills in a long time and it's probably possible to pull quite some crazy bs with it
I was thinking about starting off with Energy Blade, cause i make 1-2 characters per league due to limited play time, but then i realised PS4 and high atk speed dont mix well 😢
prisma charm
Eh, there’s also the whole, being able to just not get hit aspect that a lot of these very experienced players have
wintry otter
Ikr, some madman did uber atziri with CI+EB 🤷♂️
rose pasture
Oh, thanks, I see..
prisma charm
I’m nearly 3k hours in and not all that experienced with bossing, just not my thing
Just blast through maps, fill dump tab, repeat
wintry otter
I think i did over 3k on pc and then went on ps4 cause pc started struggling, abiut 200h maybe, 300?
I don't mins bossing, sometimes it's quite fun too
Only have 2 shaper kills though
prisma charm
I still do chaos recipes this far in, because why not when I’m vendoring a bunch of junk anyway
wintry otter
One in 2.6 one in 3.7-ish
prisma charm
I like bossing with builds where I can get hit safely
wintry otter
Both done with op asf characters for those patches lol
prisma charm
If I have to not get hit to be able to do it, eh, nah, rather just map and sell the fragments
prisma charm
I do it when I’m super op later on
But I’ve struggled this league with currency
I’ve bought a savior and paradoxica so far
Have 1 ex in stash
I’ve had 2 ex drop total
That and I still lack -mana crafts!!
This is absurd
Lol
wintry otter
Paradoxica and Saviour huh, pretty sure you and my mate are playing the exact same build lol
I have like 45c in stash plus random currency, can't complain tho, I'm liking the amount of crafting currency in my stash
prisma charm
I bought savior early on, I should have waited. It plus dreadbeak was just as good as running terminus est
Woulda saved an ex
prisma charm
Next time I’ll just grab a thief’s torment and keep the est
Run that till I can get paradoxica
craggy depot
yo anyone know if there's something wrong w/ trade site atm? i got booted out of my uber lab and now its saying 0 ppl selling offer to goddess?....
prisma charm
Seems fine
young pelican
can someone kill my t14 crusader with 1 portal?
past haven
so are anomalous aura and stabilizing energy (still) backwards? i seem to be finding items with detrimental mod higher than beneficial but not vice versa
oak zinc
Just started the new leauge and looking for people to play and chill with. pm me
fair aspen
I did that to my tabula. -2 buddies!
wide crane
I think that update today broke ascendancy's a bit
next epoch
I think that update today broke ascendancy's a bit
the jumbled text bug has been around forever
wide crane
First time I've seen it
idle pecan
Is it possible to calculate soulthirst stacks in PoB?
loud kindle
Is it possible to calculate soulthirst stacks in PoB?
5% increased attack and cast speed per stack
fair kindle
Anyone recommend a good CoC guide for this league? My fav build type. I have limited time to play so well made guides help me progress
ionic reef
how well does a vd/dd slinger necro stand against the league mechanic?
tough sundial
can anyone kill some bosses for me
map bosses
i need the completion for the slots
crisp tree
how well does a vd/dd slinger necro stand against the league mechanic?
its good, auto target is op and its tanky enough
violet nymph
Anyone recommend a good CoC guide for this league? My fav build type. I have lim...
What's the budget
fair kindle
What's the budget
Basically starting with nothing, I have a tabula, would be leveling a fresh character
violet nymph
Oof. Uh, coc needs at least some investment, at least an ex to get off the ground I'd say
fair kindle
Oof. Uh, coc needs at least some investment, at least an ex to get off the groun...
I’ve league started CoC a few times, agreed it generally needs a specific item or two to get going but as long as they aren’t really expensive can kind of expect to have some monies as mapping begins
violet nymph
If say you could do inquis coc
Although the problem is I don't have any guides. I've just been adapting a build off poe.ninja
blissful onyx
how well does a vd/dd slinger necro stand against the league mechanic?
I’ve been rolling with it. It works very well in maps and delve. Bossing is iffy.
Scaling defenses will require some big braining
plucky stratus
jesus, lifetap in a tabula 6L at low level is scary
constantly pressing flask button
I have 650 life and my BV costs 50 life
prisma charm
Just don’t get hit
plucky stratus
well it's BV
slender temple
dont use life
indigo wolf
Just leech
plucky stratus
Just leech
it's poison, leech is almost useless
plucky stratus
dont use life
it's not like I have mana either lol
it'll be fine, I'm in softcore
plucky stratus
I'm going to get 2 cybil's paws when I have the minimum level requirement for it
ivory axle
what skill is int stacking occultist playing?
plucky stratus
lol I didn't realize you could enter the lord's labyrinth at level 26
33 is just the zone level, not the minimum level to do it
timid geyser
what skill is int stacking occultist playing?
Generally speaking power siphon, but other wand attacks are technically usable.
plucky stratus
I like how shadow sounds out of breath after the piety fight in act 3, but I stood still and killed her in like 3 seconds
carmine canopy
"Is it possible to murder someone who's already dead?" is still the best or second best quote in the game
prisma charm
huh. i had no idea veiled chaos orbs existed
mild pine
Does anything increase the total scourge mobs in a map other than pack size?
pine badge
hi someone have lithomancer and stone skin flayer scepters ?
urban plinth
how much is selling off A8 sirus atm?
main epoch
Okay, so how do I unlock the 3rd slot? 😐 I'm at a loss for what else to try
violet nymph
Okay, so how do I unlock the 3rd slot? 😐 I'm at a loss for what else to try
Random green drop from a boss, quest item. Turn into NPC for reward
main epoch
Random green drop from a boss, quest item. Turn into NPC for reward
So if I am at boss kill #5 in tier 14 or higher maps I am just unlucky and keep trying?
vernal isle
dropped from second boss for me
versed marlin
It seems to be pretty low drop rate, 5 kills likely isn't unlucky, it'll drop eventually if you keep killing scourge bosses
violet nymph
So if I am at boss kill #5 in tier 14 or higher maps I am just unlucky and keep ...
Yeah, it's random.
compact dock
how does expedition group play work? does everyone get expedition currency?
dusky slate
hey guys, what build would you suggest to a first time SSF player?
rose pasture
Its a tarp!
wintry otter
hey guys, what build would you suggest to a first time SSF player?
Minions. You will be a bit squishy, but you don't really need to worry about gear too much, long as you have the links
dusky slate
Minions. You will be a bit squishy, but you don't really need to worry about gea...
hmm alright, i was kinda wanting to make a spell caster or melee build of some sort
lost cape
hi! what is the best lowtier map to scourge 10 times?
wintry otter
hmm alright, i was kinda wanting to make a spell caster or melee build of some s...
Up to you tbh, but I wouldn't make my first character in ssf a melee, purely because it's relatively hard to find upgrades for your weapon. Spells damage scales firstly from gem lvl, then tree and gear, for melee you have to take care of your gear throughout the campaign or your damage will fall off badly. I was recommending minions so you can basically fire and forget, and just watch the boss and evade moves.
Good minion builds do require some uniques however
fair glen
Hey there,
I'm looking to complete the vendor recipe challenge.
Can someone point me to a site where the recipes are shown/described or just tell me how to complete a Enkindling orb, the ring of exile and a wicked weapon.
I checked the wiki page for the vendor recipes and searchde the discord channels here, didn't find it.
indigo wolf
It's missing the exile craft but that is any ring with explicit chaos resist + amethyst flask + orb of aug.
It's a repeatable recipe that uptiers the chaos resist, "of exile" is tier 2. If you can find a ring with tier 3 chaos resist, you'd only need to do the recipe once.
(Actually the chaos resist craft is in there, it just isn't labeled explicitly as "of exile" as that is just the name of 1 tier of chaos resist suffix)
fair glen
<https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Vendor%20recipe%20system>
Thank you. 🙂
I'll check again.
indigo wolf
If you were using the fandom wiki, the vendor recipes there might be outdated as that site is abandoned
fair glen
thx, for this info as well, was using that wiki
weak rain
guys do any of you have an Aul citadel available? i need some spectres
fair glen
<https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Vendor%20recipe%20system>
ok, found the information I needed, thx + hf
crisp tree
mighty sage
Anyone know if the "additional scourge bosses" mod is still buggy in a scourge map?
violet nymph
hi! what is the best lowtier map to scourge 10 times?
Haunted mansion has a decent amount of rares.
indigo wolf
Anyone know if the "additional scourge bosses" mod is still buggy in a scourge m...
I did one with 3 additional bosses a few hours ago and it had all 3
(I am not sure what bugginess you're referring to though)
mighty sage
I did one with 3 additional bosses a few hours ago and it had all 3
thanks, I only read on reddit/forum etc. that if you had like multiple additional scourge bosses, they won't spawn and effectively making the mod on the map useless
plucky stratus
so I made a character with the intention of leveling it to 45 and then book of regressioning every time he hit 46, so that I could level fast and reset whakano's inventory
as it turns out, it doesn't just reset when you level up, it resets when you level down
so I'm getting twice as much value as I expected
violet nymph
yup
plucky stratus
also turns out level 46 is better to sit at than 45
since a ton of gems want to be 46
honest quail
hey if i could do anything no matter how hard it is, what would give the most profit?
plucky stratus
mirror service
so it turns out, whakano only sells engineering, lockpicking and brute force contracts when you're level 46
unless I've been getting REALLY unlucky
but I've restocked him like 10 times and I've only seen those three
so making a character to specifically restock him at low level wasn't the best plan
oh well
winter crown
My first time in temple, what item should i put in Corruption Altar?
next epoch
My first time in temple, what item should i put in Corruption Altar?
Only things that you can stand to lose.
inner pulsar
Is the profit from a scarab-dropping scourged map enough that buying them for 30-60 c is a reasonable strategy, or is it better to just scourge maps yourself and hope to hit scarabs?
inner pulsar
CI build, already have lose life, lose es, phys on shift on my not block
inner pulsar
Yep, I've heard. Hence why it's on the not stat block
hollow mesa
guess i was lucky before, found the demon harpy fairly easy and i dont recall where. now i need another and well 8 maps in still no spawn, am i missing something?
dense ruin
guess i was lucky before, found the demon harpy fairly easy and i dont recall wh...
Just spawns in scourge
Just go to global 6666
And ask for demon harpies
viral lance
LOoking for ideas on a new build , only thing i care bout is boss kill speed really
just rip'd at 90 so i got quite bit of currnecy already tried toxic rain and bladestorm
hollow herald
hihi have any one tainted mythic orbs to sell
thorn pewter
Does anyone know if there is a way to filter items based on specific scourge enchantments?
This forum post states that item filter support was added for scourged items: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3187476/page
However, I'm guessing that might just be the ability to filter on Scourged True and Scourged False
indigo wolf
Filterblade customization says it can only filter explicit mods, but I am not an expert on filters.
thorn pewter
That lines up with what I was seeing digging through the source for neversink's filter, so was what I was expecting
That's disappointing
Was hoping to be able to hide scourged items if it has a detrimental scourge mod that is unplayable for me (in SSF)
Might just have to hide all scourged items then since pretty much all are trash
indigo wolf
Welcome to POE, Sturgeon out front shoulda told ya
storm crown
6/6 all in the same negative mod XDD
eternal matrix
Does scourge ending make you take extra bleed damage from moving back? Took a bunch of damage while bleeding at the end but not sure if something else hit me right before the shift
carmine canopy
I got 9/10 negatives in evade chance before, in a character with iron reflexes and unwavering stance, it was great
storm crown
i dont think that suppression even worked
as i still had 100% suppresion
guess didnt check while in nightmare
so nvm XD
keen grail
1im running tower mf strat and im hearing people say they are getting 300 stacks before going to last floor, im usually ending the map with like 280-300 stacks, extremely rarely will i get 300 before the last floor
im chisel alch vaaling with 4 sextants
strongbox, div card, harbinger scarabs
i full clear the scourge map every time
wintry otter
I am dissapointed in scourged maps. Too often there's barely any rares. This morning, alch/vall/chis I think Canyon, so decent layout. Rolled smth like 130 quant with 40 pack, 2 stacked deck + 1 unique plus some trash rewards. I saw grand total of 4 rares, killed one because the other 3 were all Extra Life + resist ele + armoured + regen, basically perfect counters for my tecslam.
And that's most of my scourged maps experience, kill/see 1-2 rares if you're lucky, in a low yellow or high white map with 30-40 pack size nonetheless...
celest hound
for Transform Items II, is Reservation Efficiency Modifier only a T3 modifier? Been trying to knock this one out for a while but no luck.
violet nymph
I am dissapointed in scourged maps. Too often there's barely any rares. This mor...
Do indoor maps. Haunted mansion i ran into 20+ rares in there
keen grail
i usually see like 12-15 rares full clearing scourge maps, they are a lot easier to find in indoor maps ive found though. the biggest thing is speed, go fast or else youll miss the ones that are there
ideally u full clear both the scourge map and the regular map in every map
slender temple
my only complaint is the insane mods
like the degen mods that remove life per second
completely bricking it for CI builds
take 18k phys damage on shift i have to analyze i think can mitigate it ? idk gotta do some math haha. guess armour less valuable there but need actual phys reduction sources
eternal matrix
1im running tower mf strat and im hearing people say they are getting 300 stacks...
Apparently some scarabs and/or master missions reduce the mobs in the scourge
brazen lily
this worth?
summer sundial
don't you have a bunch of uslesss 15's lying around
brazen lily
i'm on t12 rn.
waxen edge
what about t16?
vernal isle
I gave it a t15 or something, got some trash like low compass and 1 chisel
crisp tree
dense ruin
I am dissapointed in scourged maps. Too often there's barely any rares. This mor...
Run easier maps
Also, probably shouldn't be running scourged maps yet ngl
Wait till your build has highest dps
You want to clear the entire map
tawny pasture
you tought it was tft ?
wintry otter
You want to clear the entire map
I am. There's just no rares
indigo wolf
I'd heard a rumour that juicing maps reduces the number of rares in scourgeworld.
I'm not autistic enough to run enough tests and verify myself, probably just people malding
sonic cove
hello guys, I'm trying to get back into path of exile for the first time since delirium league. How is this new league? I don't really know what builds are good so I was taking a look at some of my old favorites like fire elemental hit or ball lightning traps but idk if any of that is good
which ascendancies are good? or are they more balanced now
ok ty
fast sand
CoC occulist or VD/DD necro(ds_lillys build)
random juniper
Is there a build i could do for a marauder for aroun 35EX budget? Not gen cry bladeflurry XD thats what im currently running
acoustic bear
should i play freezing pulse on witch or templar
tawny pasture
Templar imo
queen blaze
Im running a map that has "take 9000 physical damage when you shift into nightmare." I have 67% phys damage reduction and 5800 life, but I die when I shift.
Does armor not work for that mod?
queen blaze
Can you elaborate?
Is there a way to figure out how much phys reduction I actually have?
candid cairn
the amount it mitigates depends on how big of a hit you take
queen blaze
Im taking 9000 damage.
candid cairn
in pob there is max hit in the config tab
put that there and then go see the max amount you can tank in calcs
queen blaze
Any idea where in configs?
I see "Armour calculation mode" but that says if I set it to maximum it will treat my armour as doubled
candid cairn
just scroll to the botton of calcs tab for eHP and other stuff
candid cairn
disable guard skill
queen blaze
14,127 is still more then 9000
(and for reference I actually did have molten shell up)
candid cairn
did you put 9000 in the hit damage box in config tab