Wouldent know. Cant make it thst far.
#1┃mirage-league
knotty pendant
dusty field
I roll back every other zone
cedar pewter
The memes are pretty good lol https://i.redd.it/xscz0d9lqmt61.png
dusty field
I've managed to run 19/27 modifiers
choking miasma is the only one that's been spooky
quick raven
its an abstract kind of suffering
cedar pewter
well, I tried to log in for 5 minutes but no go
they really fucked up on this one lol
dusty field
I still haven't procced razor dance
knotty pendant
i uninstalled.
tawny pasture
sadge for you
knotty pendant
no, sadge for you
cedar pewter
I'd suggest coming back to it tomorrow or the day after
tawny pasture
nah im happy with poe
cedar pewter
Just take a lil break 🙂
knotty pendant
ill see what happens in a few weeks when people start to rotate builds
everyone and their mother started the skill i was going to play
tawny pasture
that mean easy gear to find
knotty pendant
yup.
dusty field
Exsanguinate best skill
fluid warren
still unstable?
cedar pewter
apparently
dusty field
Realm is down for maint
fiery matrix
Yep, crashed just after Kitava.
fiery matrix
Hopefully this fix will help.
cedar pewter
holy shit #1┃general is in 10 minute slow mode lol
sharp valley
low key think Cane of kulemak can become one of the best items in game
fiery matrix
New unique from Betrayal, Staff with 3 veiled mods and increased magnitude.
With unveils going up a tier and the magnitude, I imagine that ones that roll synergistically will be valuable.
sharp valley
since it comes from catarina it should be able to roll even +2 socketed gems and damage over time multi
sharp coral
hello how is your progress so far?
sharp valley
currently finishing act 4
sharp valley
but servers are at maint
cedar pewter
Thinking of restarting though when servers go back up
quaint umbra
hehe
heavy cove
made it to lvl 54 so far
sharp coral
i tried to finish thhe vaal oversoul two times but got kicked 😄
dusty field
rolled back about 50 times so far
sharp coral
que is up again
cedar pewter
Thanks
fiery matrix
Well, time to see if I can finish act 5 now. And hopefully realm is more stable now?
dusty field
Seems like it might be
fiery matrix
We will find out soonish, if it manages 30 mins without people crashing it'll be an improvement.
Well, I just crashed after killing Kitava.
So yeah... guess not quite yet.
cedar pewter
every zone is a long timer, but i seem to be staying in?
Or did I speak too soon lol
made it all teh way to the ledge w/o dc, dced loading into ledge. rip
uneven silo
Chris 's TL; DR
quick raven
YOOOOOOOOOOO this new fragments tab
cedar pewter
yeah the new fragment tab is so sick
rocky nebula
Wait so can you put different tier breachstones in it now?
And maybe breach blessings?
cedar pewter
it has room for all the breachstones
twin sedge
are the servers even up?
fiery matrix
Not a new tier, no. Normal -> Charged -> Enriched -> Pure.
Servers are up, I am in now.
sharp galleon
lmfao
quick raven
oh derp, forgot about charged
fiery matrix
And maintenance again?
wanton karma
do you mind me asking how you're able to put them in a folder like that? (the tabs)
quick raven
It was something they added a league or two ago, can't tell you specifics atm cus I got dcd and cant log back in
wanton karma
oh RIP
but ty
ill look into it then that sounds infinitely handy
fiery matrix
From the steam page for it.
There is a button on the right hand side of the tabs that makes folders, then it is just click and drag.
agile pumice
is it just me or are the mobs that spawn in the ultimatum waaaaaaaaay harder than the mob level of the area?
topaz scroll
Disconnection-league-mechanics
This is the best league ever!
minor rampart
Now you got logout macro for free !
solid willow
wait wait, the harvest stuff is still around?
solid willow
oh
keen dawn
worth about 12c
good, it shouldn't be 20 exalts per encounter.
solid willow
i havent encountered the event after that league
pliant yoke
why is the queue a thing
solid willow
i kinda enjoyed it but i do agree that it was kinda busted
scarlet scroll
boreal gazelle
scenic ridge
"Economy resets are an opportunity to have a fresh start and an EVEN PLAYING FEILD for players" -Chris Wilson GDC 2019🤣 🤣 🤣
spiral cipher
That's not how it works
tawny plover
What's not how it works?
shutting down the servers, and downgrading to last used settings? LOL
It's done in IT all the time
next epoch
oh yes, run ritual league again, definite winning move there
ivory dock
i kinda liked the ritual league, i wouldn't mind a re-do 😐
tawny plover
that they are trying out this league
next epoch
you think that's separate?
tawny plover
yes
next epoch
it isn't.
tawny plover
Twitter
"Our current plan to resolve this is to downgrade the database version we are using to the one that was stable for last league launch.
Likes"
this is normally built in redundancy
not something you "try out"
lament ivy
GGG still work as they are a little indie company in a basement somewhere.
rugged rock
^
spiral cipher
they kind of are?
ggg stated at a size below indie
they're just finally going above indie and the part that is above indie is working on poe 2
or do we forget that bit/
just to complain
lament ivy
they are not a small company anymore. They should have learned how to develop software properly by now. They got 100 million revenue each year.
spiral cipher
they just got a second person in the community manager team
they had 1 girl doing it before then
lament ivy
It is not like they are pushing any kind of technical barriers.
spiral cipher
they are?
like
big time
I don't think you know how computers work if you say ggg isn't pushing technical boundries.
lament ivy
Only thing they are pushing against is their bad code and infrastructure.
tawny plover
name a technical barrier that they are pushing
spiral cipher
They have to have each fucking asset individually that's how basic coding works or when you update they wotn be seperated. This was clearly caused by that
tawny plover
or innovation
tawny plover
this is not caused by any game assets
lament ivy
come on xd
tawny plover
this is caused by backend coding
spiral cipher
server aassets moron
spiral cipher
why are you coming at ggg with insults
when your clearly too stupid to understand your own arguement
tawny plover
You are the only one insulting
lament ivy
The problem they got now are just because they dont have a proper testing process.
spiral cipher
my bert
lament ivy
And they dont seem to have a way to roll back neither.
spiral cipher
its the change to the fragment tab
sharp coral
hello
spiral cipher
ggg is actually testing this for poe 2 btw
sharp coral
i like the league mechanics
spiral cipher
changing one asset into another
lament ivy
Both are standard software developing stuff that millions of other companies know how to do.
spiral cipher
no they dont
most companies dont even try to do the stuff ggg does
cause it cost to much money?
eager charm
awesome, but seeing as none of you guys work for GGG, none of you really know and no one is correct. So lets kill the insults and vitriol
spiral cipher
can we quit talking out our ass yet?
or are we gonna keep trying to pretend like we understand the game indsutry enough to attack ggg directly
tawny plover
stop projecting mate
tawny plover
you didnt name a single technical barrier that they are pushing
you only wrote shill fluff
spiral cipher
@eager charm I came in here to discuss whether or not deadeye or raider tri ele or deadeye tri-ele would be better for the league mechanic
but saw nothing but insults towards ggg
tawny plover
link the insult
spiral cipher
trying to skirt aroudn the main rooms timer
spiral cipher
Zafaq — Today at 3:12 AM
https://twitter.com/@pathofexile/status/1383179422899970051
Path of Exile (@pathofexile)
We have been investigating some realm stability issues that trigger when there are a lot of users online. Our current plan to resolve this is to downgrade the database version we are using to the one that was stable for last league launch.
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Twitter•Yesterday at 6:04 PM
"Our current plan to resolve this is to downgrade the database version we are using to the one that was stable for last league launch.
Likes"
this is normally built in redundancy
not something you "try out"
Twitter
tawny plover
but what you wrote, gets you banned on their forums
tawny plover
this is normally built in redundancy
not something you "try out" how is this an insult
this is what Redundancy is
spiral cipher
yo
Sorry
ki just said you had sex a lot
it's not a insult
It'd be a insult if i said the word slut
tawny plover
server aassets moron
right
spiral cipher
just because i say the word and you dance around it
tawny plover
when your clearly too stupid to understand your own arguement
yep
spiral cipher
doesn't put you in some kind of morale high ground
eager charm
enough
spiral cipher
so tri ele hit
raider or deadeye
on one hand raider is tankier
but deadeye has a lot better clear
spiral cipher
Piscators?
violet nymph
If ultimatum launch was this bad , imagine what poe2 will be 
spiral cipher
people said that about abyss and blight
bligths only problem was blighted maps lag
scenic ridge
"Economy resets are an opportunity to have a fresh start and an EVEN PLAYING FEILD for players" -Chris Wilson GDC 2019🤣 🤣 🤣
halcyon veldt
Zafaq — Today at 3:12 AM
https://twitter.com/@pathofexile/status/138317942289997...
Games don't work that way. There's likely too much data.
lavish finch
can you guys remember when trade was down last league for like 2-3 weeks
i think we're in this for a long ride
lean adder
Damn I missed picking up 6 Unique's so far from the disconnects. all night / morning. 😦
cedar pewter
I just got my 2nd challenge. I'm still in act 1 lol
All these resets have had me do so many ultimatums
jade peak
the real ultimatum is if you get to keep ANY of the progress you make while logged in
bright elk
is it even worth doing the mechanic?
lavish finch
nah probably not whilst leveling
bright elk
im either gonna go cyclone or storm brand
lavish finch
i was doing it for fun
bright elk
do you think it will be worth it later?
lavish finch
yea
bright elk
aight ill go cyclone then
quick raven
I KEEP DC'ING YOU CUNT
lavish finch
hahaha
quick raven
I do enjoy this guy's jabs though
lavish finch
i got a 220pdps usable at level 30 from the mechanic
something seems wrong with it whilst leveling
quick raven
I keep upgrading my boots 5% ms at a time and always with life and res, its been a nice leveling mechanic so far
cedar pewter
WOO I killed brutus. Les go 😄
tawny pasture
Ib4 rollback
cedar pewter
I think ima go to sleep and pray it's functional when i wake up
tawny plover
I think ima go to sleep and pray it's functional when i wake up
I did that after launch and it didn't work out xD
cedar pewter
Lol
In the next 30-60 minutes after posting this, there will be roughly 30-60 minutes of hard downtime to make this change. We are optimistic that it stands a good chance of resolving the issue. this is hopefully good news
tawny plover
I slept 7 hours
my issue is that the 4 minute queue, then dc after 5 minutes
and rollback that comes with it, makes me unable to progress
or keep loot
cedar pewter
We had arranged to pay for two hours of streaming, and we ran right into a login queue that would take two hours to clear. This was about as close as you could get to literally setting a big pile of money on fire oh boy
that makes a lot of sense lol
lavish finch
```We had arranged to pay for two hours of streaming, and we ran right into a lo...
@cedar pewter who was they paying?
cedar pewter
Shroud
tawny plover
top streamers
cedar pewter
There were a few others but shroud's the only one i knew
tawny plover
yep
cedar pewter
asmongold too i think?
next epoch
top streamers
"Which ones?" "TOP. STREAMERS." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdjf4lMmiiI
tawny plover
so Quinn etc
the first one were
the first 5-10 minutes where the paid streamers
then some of the ones who asked
tawny pasture
Rip ds lily
tawny plover
I was in grimro's chat, and he didn't get in, and neither did tuna
tawny pasture
And empy is the worst of them all
cedar pewter
Tyty definitely did, he was level 60 when most other fast people were in act 3-4
tawny plover
tyty wasn't paid I believe
tawny pasture
Empyrian and is group is just bulshit
cedar pewter
I'm fine with the streamers who got in. I'm fine with GGG's decision now that I know why. What I think we can all agree on is; wtf empy. The african thing is gonna haunt him
tawny pasture
Paying somone that shit like that on his community is not good marketing
lavish finch
seemed like they may have given streamer prio to make it look like there was no issues
cedar pewter
I don't think that, I mean most of the people with prio queue wouldn't be playing 2 hours after anyways
tawny plover
seemed like they may have given streamer prio to make it look like there was no ...
they gave streamers prio because they paid 2 hours for streamers to play, so if they didnt skip queue it would of been like burning the cash
lavish finch
was the streamers advertising the streams as sponsored?
tawny plover
and not all streamers
lavish finch
if not thats kinda unethical
tawny plover
they didnt advertise as sponsored
cedar pewter
They're advertising the game, it usually doesn't have these issues
tawny pasture
That a good point tho
lavish finch
the streamers should declare that they're sponsored
i thought the was tos of twitch
tawny pasture
Normaly streamer , even Quinn, tell us when they are paid
harsh bone
By streamers, do we mean non-poe streamers? Cuz poe streamers will play sponsored or not
tawny pasture
Exept asmongold
lavish finch
if they're being paid they should announce the stream as sponsored
tawny pasture
All streamer that was skipping queue normaly play poe
cedar pewter
Honestly, they should have let htem log into the dev realm
that woulda been smarter in general
they're not going to play past 2 hours anyways
and if they are, they can manually move them over when servers are doing better
They've only had what..3 clean day 1s in the history of poe leagues?
lavish finch
ive had a lot of good league launches
harsh bone
idk dude I feel bad for GGG. 12ish hours so far and they have to keep working
cedar pewter
If you're gonna drop $50k, just give them a private realm to play on lol
lavish finch
i started in legion
cedar pewter
oh absolutely, everyone got fucked here 😦
cedar pewter
oh no this is by far the worst
limpid current
if you discount what happened with regards to the server the league mechanic itself didnt give any of the usual day 1 trouble league mechanics usually do
tawny pasture
Its around 9 pm for ggg dev now
lavish finch
but they had issues last league with trade being unusable for like 3 weeks
i just didn't play some days because i couldnt trade
tawny pasture
Well no around 10 pm
lavish finch
the API didnt work
harsh bone
Its around 9 pm for ggg dev now
Damn you think they'll keep them overtime?
lavish finch
Damn you think they'll keep them overtime?
yes
cedar pewter
absolutely
lavish finch
they're bleeding money right now
tawny pasture
They started at like 9 am on a saturday
harsh bone
Mhmm, I don't really understand how this works. Idk how they're losing money. Sure it makes sense, I just have no clue how
tawny pasture
i have a feeling it will be a all-nighter for some of them
100%
They cant let the game in that stats
cedar pewter
Mhmm, I don't really understand how this works. Idk how they're losing money. Su...
Well for one, they probably paid between $10k - $30k per streamer for 2 hours
lavish finch
well think of all the potential customers to their game that have put the game down and won't come back
cedar pewter
and they definitely lost all of that
amber finch
this is an absolute worst-case-scenario for GGG
cedar pewter
This is also their hype time; this is where most of their sales come from
lavish finch
theres a lot of new players who just wont play again
harsh bone
Well for one, they probably paid between $10k - $30k per streamer for 2 hours
And all the customers from those streamers who will not come back to take a second look tomorrow
cedar pewter
Thing about PoE is their money comes from people playing not 1st time purchase like D3
harsh bone
they lost a lot of first timers
Exactly what I was trying to say yeah
sour mountain
i agree with the 'burning money' analogy
cedar pewter
They might be able to recoup some if someone thought hte game looked cool and they try the next day
but if it's still fucked then
sour mountain
honestly they should've set up a private streamer league so those guys can go play in their cubicle
amber finch
the amount of cry-babying in global is pretty sad though. We know its bad but please have some dignity
harsh bone
honestly they should've set up a private streamer league so those guys can go pl...
I don't think they thought it'd be this bad
cedar pewter
Well, I get it. It's frustrating and they need an outlet
amber finch
these problems will pass
cedar pewter
I don't think anyone thought it'd be this bad
sour mountain
I don't think they thought it'd be this bad
nobody thinks its as bad as its going to be
cedar pewter
there's a post from an computer engineer that's really good on the reddit
if you don't know much about computers, a 10/10 read
sour mountain
i just remember chak gerent being impossible
amber finch
all I have is a vague feeling that it was bad
yeah, gerent was absolutely busted back in the day
didnt touch it for 2 years
harsh bone
This'll be forgotten once the servers are up. Until a new league launch goes bad
cedar pewter
to explain just how bad this is
Nah, This'll be remembered. And I suspect this league will have the worst numbers
sour mountain
i wonder how long it'll take to fix
cedar pewter
which is really sad
sour mountain
this league is very fun
amber finch
the amount of people going "the league is ruined" and "the community is dying" is absolutely ridiculous
cedar pewter
Our boy viper worked hard on it 😦
sour mountain
the mechanic is great
cedar pewter
and I love it
amber finch
nobody will remember this in 2 months
sour mountain
ehhhh... people will remember the streamer prio
cedar pewter
People still remember breach's launch
sour mountain
instability, no, it'll get turned into "every league start is bad"
cedar pewter
People still remember Perandus
sour mountain
but streamer prio is baad
cedar pewter
It won't be forgotten
amber finch
that sucks but even that is meaningless logistically
what, 50 streamers can skip a queue?
sure, it opens up doors to other shit
violet nymph
@sour mountain empy and his group prio mostly
amber finch
but those 50 dont affect the queue one bit
cedar pewter
It's not about people skipping queue; it's about "even playing field" being thrown out
amber finch
all the damage is PR damage
sour mountain
PR damage is real damage tho
cedar pewter
They do affect the economy, though.
sour mountain
when you're trying to sell a product PR damage is very, very real
cedar pewter
Also, it puts faces on the front of GGG
harsh bone
I think the outrage is from POE-Streamers gets prio since they're playing either way and they impact the economy especially empy
cedar pewter
and one of htem compared players to Africans not having clean water
amber finch
empy must be stopped
lavish finch
bex commenting on her main account and not community member oh dear
cedar pewter
It's a PR nightmare
violet nymph
@harsh bone true that
sour mountain
its worse than pewdiepie saying the n word
amber finch
isnt empy's group responsible of fucking up the economy last 4 leagues and getting everything nerfed to the ground?
cedar pewter
I mean, Empy is known for hitting the economy hard
lavish finch
I've never really enjoyed his content and vibe tbh
harsh bone
Sure, he'll do it prio or not, but this is just emphasizing the issue
amber finch
very yes
harsh bone
And his comment didn't help lol
sour mountain
i think next league, they should have non-streamer prio
everyone who isnt a streamer has priority to get into the game
limpid current
id rather he gets banned altogether
violet nymph
@lavish finch same, the whole content is about manipulating ghe market
harsh bone
i dont understand why anyone would watch him
He does what most people cannot dream of
limpid current
i'm sick of him and his content, and his attitude, and this was the final straw for me
amber finch
market barons in every single game should be permanently banned
tawny pasture
Guys
lavish finch
he's always come across incredibely condenscending to me
tawny pasture
tawny plover
realm going down in 4 minutes
amber finch
ruins the markets in every damn game
sour mountain
its a real shame that ggg got hit with this so soon after the great reception for the poe2 trailers
great PR followed by terrible PR
tawny pasture
Stresmer that got paid had the sponsered statue
limpid current
let's hope this works out as expected
amber finch
poe2 looks fantastic though
sour mountain
it does
amber finch
a bit worried about the pace but thats about it
all poe1 trailers have the same pace which doesnt really reflect the zoom of the endgame
violet nymph
@tawny pasture giving pri queue yo paid streamers makes sense sorta because they were losing lots of money..... Idk
harsh bone
I hope they don't slow the game down as much as other ARPGs. PoE is fun because of it's faster pace
sour mountain
😦
limpid current
f
lavish finch
ive heard people are duping
harsh bone
They actually paid empy?
violet nymph
True, didnf see a video of it though
cedar pewter
Probably not
cedar pewter
But he did get streamer prio queue
violet nymph
They actually paid empy?
No bjt other people like dansgaming etc
harsh bone
Why is this guy saying GGG post says they paid him (on reddit)
I don't have time to read the post myself now
lavish finch
i thought we was gettind 30-60 minutes of hard down time again
sour mountain
if the servers were stable, would anyone care about streamer prio
violet nymph
Streamers outside the poe community basically
tawny plover
i thought we was gettind 30-60 minutes of hard down time again
yep realms going down now
harsh bone
Anyways gl boys, got an exam. Wish me luck
sour mountain
gl 👋
tawny plover
Anyways gl boys, got an exam. Wish me luck
GL
cedar pewter
Gl!
violet nymph
Best of luck
lavish finch
gl
cedar pewter
@harsh bone At least this downtime let you study 😄
lavish finch
yep realms going down now
i can still login?
cedar pewter
they're going down
harsh bone
<@!222420991706398720> At least this downtime let you study 😄
It was great lmao
cedar pewter
it was 4 minutes when i killed merveil
tawny plover
servers should be down now
cedar pewter
downtime will be 40 minutes
tawny plover
or 30s or less
lavish finch
someone linked 320 ex in trade chat LOOL
tawny plover
yes, some have duped
sturdy trout
estamos buscando gente para party ❤️ hacer unos rush copados y ganar buenas recompensas. cualquier cosa mp ❤️
tawny plover
it always happens when servers are bad
tawny plover
GGG usually gets a handle on it real fast tho
lavish finch
I like this
it highlights the ever going issues with the game imo
the engine is tired haah
cedar pewter
Dude, FFXIV has 10x the budget GGG has and they failed hard on their recent expansion launch
It's a problem with computers lol
supple grail
ive heard people are duping
yeah in guild stash, well not all get dupes. Some get item destroyed too.
lavish finch
client side issues, trade site issues with API, engine issues with FPS
cedar pewter
As long as things are updated by humans, there's going to be errors
lavish finch
do you guys think they should reset league progress?
tawny plover
well if this doesn't fix it, then game will be like this for 12hours or so
since it's 9 pm in auckland
lavish finch
i reached act 7 and gave up and i think personally they should
cedar pewter
I think they should, but no clue if they will
limpid current
these guys are a funny bunch, they claim to only be venting, but post racism, death threats, and thinly veiled allegations - even outright ones - about ggg lining their pockets with rmt money
lavish finch
i probably could of made it to maps and abused it if i persisted
tawny plover
If they can't fix it by the end of their workday they should reset
they are already on 12h workday so far
if not 14h
tiny bronze
Love the new RNG connection mechanic, really feel the weight of the disconnects
lavish finch
If the 3rd realm restart won't kick it what will
tawny plover
this is the first hard downtime tho right?
split cliff
Does Ultimatums give a general buff to the mobs as Rituals did, or is it just the 'mods' you chose?
tawny plover
Does Ultimatums give a general buff to the mobs as Rituals did, or is it just th...
only the mods you chose
cedar pewter
I think they literally turned it off and back on lol
split cliff
Ye and they have lots of new spooky rares, not sure how they buff everything
limpid current
some mods are pretty scuffed and you should never take them, such as the mana cost as lightning damage one
cedar pewter
yeah, in act 1 1st wave gives you just trash mobs, 2nd wave gives some blue mobs, 3rd wave is where you see your first rares, 4th wave has multiple rares + some blues, 5th wave has 7+ rares and teh rest are all blue
split cliff
It was perfect for old mine builds LOL
cedar pewter
It actually gets insanely hard
tawny plover
some mods are pretty scuffed and you should never take them, such as the mana co...
that one is ok if you use the new skills that use life
cedar pewter
Honestly, in act 1 the mana cost as lightning seems fine
I imagine end-game it's a freebie too
limpid current
I got up to 6-7 waves before most rituals ended
cedar pewter
like.. 105 mana at 200% is only 50 damage per spell cast
that seems very manageable
tawny plover
I haven't gone past 5 yet
limpid current
it was insane for currency, so many alchs, chaos, regrets
cedar pewter
Yeah, I've got like 8c already
limpid current
yep, 5-6 was from end act 1 and act 2 on
split cliff
The stone circles seem real monkaS compared to the other for squishy range builds can just run around
cedar pewter
I'm planning to go summoner but atm im the racing mines/oos/frost bomb setup
gonna do that til cruel lab i think
limpid current
the killing monsters/defend a shrine ones were very easy for finishing waves with
survival got pretty scuffed if you didnt do high damage
split cliff
Your not even clearing white mobs on survival? :p
limpid current
mostly it was the rares that were the problem honestly
split cliff
ye you most have gotten a ton then
limpid current
they hit really hard
tawny plover
ye the rares are kinda dps sponge
split cliff
Havnt seen how the rare proportions are, maybe way more than Rituals
lavish finch
Them
tawny plover
i'm assuming they are gonna spawn uniques later on too
prob on the level of t4 harvest
split cliff
Wave 10 some big ass enemies
limpid current
hadn't failed any rituals except for one where i derped out and stood outside a circle through carelessness
lavish finch
Anyone feel like they get swarmed?
split cliff
arent they called Ultimatums?
lavish finch
I play HC and every ultimatum is so scary haha
limpid current
*ultimatums whoopsies
limpid current
i keep thinking of them as rituals because they're so much like their predecessors
tawny plover
ults sounds good
verbal wyvern
Ultimatum mechanic is nice, adds a good challenge early on for things that are useful
split cliff
Quite fun trying different combinations
lavish finch
Have you guys died to any of them yet?
tawny plover
I haven't really gotten anything that good tho from the ults
limpid current
the amount of rewards was nutty as fuck and so many good rares and uniques you'd be spoiled for choice
cedar pewter
some of the new spectres look insane
I can't wait til my summoner gets up a lil higher
im so excited
The frost bolt robots look so good
verbal wyvern
I died in one, I got swarmed was partly my own fault though lol
limpid current
frostbolt robots are definitely a big one
split cliff
Ye cant wait until I get my phase flask, gonna be much easier
limpid current
maybe those snakes too
verbal wyvern
The ruin mechanic is monkaS
limpid current
I like how relentless ultimatum is
you dont get breathing room unless you can make it
verbal wyvern
Yep
cedar pewter
Yeah, survival is super interesting
The lil robots are really scary though
They teleport all around and spew bolts everywhere
verbal wyvern
The spitting skulls are interesting
cedar pewter
Funny enough I thought the easiest mod ended up to be by FAR the scariest
smaller arena
That is just downright terrifying
verbal wyvern
One of the modifiers sounds awful 1000% of mana cost taken as lightning damage
cedar pewter
Smaller arena + skulls is insane
limpid current
smaller arena was pretty much free fodder mostly, but you need heavy dps
cedar pewter
I had smaller arena, Skulls 3 and poison cloud 1
limpid current
and no high tier aoe mods
tawny plover
you can dip in and out of the arena tho
limpid current
skulls was scuffed lol, stormcall runes are far safer
cedar pewter
Stormcall runes are safer if you're fast
verbal wyvern
Imagine you get smaller arena and all of the modifiers that add enemies with ruin
cedar pewter
they don't "cool down"
lavish finch
Turns out empy was paid from GGG for a tweet
cedar pewter
you stand on them 3 seconds ever and they go off
lavish finch
This gets stranger and stranger
limpid current
yeah no i was never dumb enough to add ruin mods
verbal wyvern
Turns out empy was paid from GGG for a tweet
#1┃general this is for ultimatum mechanics
lavish finch
cedar pewter
Ruin is actually pretty free imo
tawny plover
but does Ruin go up in damage?
cedar pewter
that's the apparition that chases you yeah?
verbal wyvern
Ruin isn’t damage
tawny plover
does it have tiers maybe?
cedar pewter
if you get hit 7 times you fail
verbal wyvern
It makes you fail if you get ruin 7
The higher tiers add a ranged spectre I think?
cedar pewter
I found that one to be free, if we're talking about the same
limpid current
if you get hit repeatedly you can fail, and that's not easy to deal with in limited arenas sometimes
verbal wyvern
And there’s multiple modifiers that add ruin
cedar pewter
Ruin A Monster type will apply Ruin with its special ability Fail on reaching 7 Ruin oh
this isn't the same one
I haven't seen this one
lavish finch
Can confirm ruin does dmg
tawny plover
and is it per monster? or per encounter?
cedar pewter
Stalking Ruin is the one I was thinking
lavish finch
Ruin does damage
cedar pewter
Stalking Ruin An invulnerable shade stalks you, inflicting Ruin with its Melee Attacks Fail on reaching 7 Ruin
if it does it's miniscule, at least in act 1
I didn't notice it with 2 stacks
tawny plover
maybe it has levels?
cedar pewter
You have Ruin. On reaching 7 Ruin, you will fail the Ultimatum```higher damage based on monster ilevel
cedar pewter
I don't think it does damage
tawny plover
Ruin is like corrupted blood
cedar pewter
You are taking Fire Damage over time and periodically gaining Ruin
GolemBeamRuin Ruinous Chilling Bond
You are taking Cold Damage over time and periodically gaining Ruin
GolemBeamRuin Ruinous Electrifying Bond
You are taking Lightning Damage over time and periodically gaining Ruin
GolemBeamRuin Ruinous Chaotic Bond
You are taking Chaos Damage over time and periodically gaining Ruin```there's these
but I have no idea wtf they are
cedar pewter
Huh, weird
tawny plover
up to 7 stacks
cedar pewter
There's 2 types of ruin
Ruinous x bond and Ruin; ruin doesn't do damage
you just fail at 7 stacks
it draws a thing over your head
tawny plover
I thought they were the same thing
cedar pewter
\ first then /\, no idea where it goes from there
Then there's Ruinous X bond, which is a dot that also applies ruin over time
tawny plover
apply_ultimatum_ruin_on_hit
cedar pewter
There's 3 ways to get ruin;
The Stalking Ruin 1 - 3, which adds a mob that follows you and applies ruin
Restless Grounds III, Resurrect mobs will be Ruin-inflicting Phantasms
and "Ruin", which gives some mobs a special ability
tawny plover
that's a dot
tawny plover
what about apply_ultimatum_ruin_on_hit ?
cedar pewter
7 stacks of ruin = fail
There's 3 things associated with ruin; stalking grounds, restless grounds and Ruin - the first 2 have no dot aspect, last one does
tawny plover
well, it's an issue I think
if the ruins fail you at 7 stacks
and it's per wave based
then even if you're tanky, you will fail
so it should be another kill uber fast mechanic
cedar pewter
Two Monster types will apply double Ruin with their special abilities Fail on reaching 7 Ruin this seems like a terrible idea lol
I think I'll do ruin once
tawny plover
which would be disappointing for me
cedar pewter
Eh? How come?
Some mods aren't doable by some builds
I think that's fine
you have 3 choices afterall
tawny plover
it's linked to certain skills tho
so if the mobs apply ruin, and you fail
then the post I deleted means that I'm guarnteeed to lose the encounter
if you have low dps
you get hit alot
cedar pewter
50% less aoe, 60% reduced regen, Cooldowns take 5x as long, Flasks hinders you by 50%, you can only have 1 flask ever, take 1000% of mana cost as lightning damage, Projectiles fire in random directions, Auras affect enemies
like
there's a lot of scary mods
Some builds simply can't do
limpid current
auras affecting enemies is the ultimate fuck you to aurabots
cedar pewter
haha yeah
cedar pewter
Eh, dodge
eager terrace
monster skills, not yours
midnight phoenix
the stalky monster dude will never hit u if ur mobile at all
so u get no ruin
im always stoked to see that mod its free real estate
cedar pewter
yeah
eager terrace
so far it seems like it hasn't been an issue
limpid current
phasing is pretty much probably going to be an important tool for high level ult farming
limpid current
if you get cornered you're done with how many mobs spawn and how fast they spawn, particularly if you have zdps
tawny plover
Nboody asked me, but I have played 4 hours and i'm act 2
midnight phoenix
i got to level 35, got annoyed at shit exsanguinate clear, quit, went to go do chores and have lunch, came back, rerolled to marauder, crashed 10 times and had a nap
cedar pewter
Hey sounds like what I did more or less
Yeah exsanguinate looks good...if you can force chain somehow
limpid current
I managed to make it to highgate, then cut my losses
cedar pewter
without running chain
limpid current
i'm actually surprised i didnt dc or crash getting to dominus
tawny plover
i got to level 35, got annoyed at shit exsanguinate clear, quit, went to go do c...
is exanguinate bad? it's what i'm playing
cedar pewter
Nah, Just has clear issues
There's plenty of ways to help it out
but you need to do something
midnight phoenix
im just tilting to fuck seeing packs with 8 mobs and going welp im never going to clear that in 1 hit
and i can see it wont get better until much much later when i have so much damage i can put chain in main links for clearing
eager terrace
I dunno how you can avoid actually using chain
midnight phoenix
reap aoe is tiny 😦
eager terrace
at least as a clear gem swap
midnight phoenix
i switched to it for a bit just to see
cedar pewter
I didn't get to 28 before rerolling
limpid current
while i've been waiting for news I took up listening to bardcore, and it's insane how creative some of these guys got, even translating lyrics into latin and old/middle english
midnight phoenix
again it's a skill that i would play if i had the ability to switch out a dmg gem for spell cascade
u can only do that if ur self casting tho
and i dont think anybody serious is doing that
the entire ladder is on spellslinger
cedar pewter
Lol
limpid current
yeah blood skills seem pretty much doa for much serious building
tawny plover
i'm selfcast
limpid current
or at least taking more effort than you'd normally spend
cedar pewter
Ehhh nah, I think both blood skills will end up upper tier
midnight phoenix
ye its a 0.8 cast speed spell u wont catch me casting that
the damage is good enough to play for sure
cedar pewter
the damage is just so good
midnight phoenix
unless it falls off idk
cedar pewter
you can easily slot in chain on a 6L
midnight phoenix
it doesnt feel like it will
cedar pewter
problem is in the story you're rocking a 4L...chain ain't cutting it there
and who the fuck wants to gem swap lol
I'd rather just play some strike skill if I wanted to gem swap
especially with the insane weapons ritual is handing out like candy
limpid current
you'd do something like exsanguinate for clear and focus reap as a single target skill because of the on-kill mechanic removing damage and aoe
cedar pewter
server should be going up soon
midnight phoenix
ye perhaps, theres so many adds around im skeptical
however
the adds make cruelty 10/10 support
that is the one thing im super happy with
its a 50% more multi at level 1
cedar pewter
jesus
midnight phoenix
and its just perma up all the time when leveling
cedar pewter
If that's the case, I'm calling it now; reap is going to be a top tier skill once the build gets figured out
cedar pewter
Real question is how does it interact with Awk Cascade
midnight phoenix
i guess u get 5 reaps idk
cedar pewter
if there's overlap, that could be exciting
midnight phoenix
i should try it actually, i havent with reg cascade yet
only seen ppl on ladder with the gem supported
eh the dot doesnt stack im not super enthused
i just want it to hit things
cedar pewter
I think you 100% run cascade - reap - slinger - cruelty
I should really get an awk cascade on standard
I always want to test it with new shit
lavish finch
a lot of people are running these new skills on a spellslinger setup
cedar pewter
.8s cast, it's just too slow
either need to cheat it or have a shit load of cast speed
lavish finch
dont they lose the blood charges?
cedar pewter
why would they?
lavish finch
spellslinger is trigger right?
cedar pewter
Gain a blood charge if this skill hits enemies and none of them die
doesn't say anything about trigger
waxen spire
lavish finch
@cedar pewter https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/msipoh/meta_psa_reap_doesnt_gain_blood_charges_when/
tawny plover
seems like a bad mechanic anyway
you gain charges if you dont kill
but lose itwhen they die to dot
tawny plover
at 100 life per hit
cedar pewter
huh, really?
midnight phoenix
u shoot a wand skill, it triggers every gem linked to spellslinger support on a cooldown
cedar pewter
interesting
You can still do it like totem reap builds will
unleash - reap self-cast for the stacks
lavish finch
yeah the spellslinger version seems popular
but you lose the ramp with blood charges
lavish finch
yeah
cedar pewter
which is fine for a 50% multiplier
midnight phoenix
thats kinda bad for trigger builds compared to totems
cedar pewter
Yeah totems get it for free
midnight phoenix
totems have extensive downtime so u lose nothing by casting
cedar pewter
yeah that's the idea
midnight phoenix
triggers u actively give up dps to cast unleash reap
cedar pewter
you can't have a 0 damage dot
lavish finch
totems have slow clear though
lavish finch
spell slinger version is zoom zoom
cedar pewter
who told you that
midnight phoenix
i think reap totems probably would have slow clear tbh
lavish finch
i meant in context with the new skills
cedar pewter
Idk how to feel about reap in general
it's an interesting idea and it's balanced very aggressively to be strong
so I know it'll see some use somewhere, i'm curious how though
midnight phoenix
ye place ur totem, wait for it to cast its 0.8 second base skill modified by less totem cast speed, hope it hit all the mobs, hope it did enough damage that u dont need to place another one
blarf
cedar pewter
haha
midnight phoenix
after trying both im still much more comfortable with exsanguinate
cedar pewter
when someone says slow clear, I just think of my ballista character blazing around at 350% mspd dropping ballistas at a .045s
midnight phoenix
reap needs to be like twice the size i swear
cedar pewter
and insta-clearing entire areas
Reap...is a different monster
I'd have to see its aoe 
midnight phoenix
theres ppl on reddit complaining about dead zones as well but i think they just need to get used to the skill
cedar pewter
time to kill merveil again
lavish finch
reap looks wonky
tawny plover
queue is up
lavish finch
im in
tawny plover
in the game or in the queue xD
lavish finch
the game
cedar pewter
im in
midnight phoenix
lets go crash bois
sour mountain
theres ppl on reddit complaining about dead zones as well but i think they just ...
sounds just like glacial cascade to be honest, gc has an annoying deadzone
compact forge
life is not fair
midnight phoenix
yes maybe something like that
i didnt use reap much but i didnt experience anything like that
sour mountain
its basically a direct-targeted nova isnt it
maybe people think its supposed to be like a frontal cone?
Idk
midnight phoenix
yes i thought it was a frontal cone from the preview
it appears to be a nova with a neat animation
robust veldt
is it worth doing side missions? or should i only focus on main story?
sour mountain
you can always go back and get the skillpoints or side missions you missed
the only one i think is kinda worth doing is tidal island so you get a quicksilver early
cedar pewter
beast too in act 2
verbal wyvern
this wasn't too bad
real inlet
Wait, of minions can't be affected by lifetap, did that mean no more blood magic chieftains?
sour mountain
ok so
this league is really fun so far :3
im only in ship graveyard and the mechanic feels great so im feeling good
sour mountain
being able to pick your challenge rather than have to deal with toxic vines is great
marsh wyvern
and it begins
sour mountain
trialmaster is getting mad because i keep clearing trials ezpz
marsh wyvern
same
sour mountain
im probably overlevelling superhard
marsh wyvern
was skeles buffed recently? i dont recall summoning 2 at once last time i played em
sour mountain
im being casual this league
marsh wyvern
with a lvl 1 gem
cedar pewter
in 3.6 or somethign ya
silver kettle
3.8
marsh wyvern
well def feels better than 1 at a time
marsh wyvern
ngl im surprised the loot is decent from the mechanic. at least so far
was expecting ritual all over again
cedar pewter
i hope morale isn't hit too bad 😦 rough 12 hours
marsh wyvern
give me shit until i quit from boredom
spiral cipher
Yo if you start completing lots of chaos challenges in a row.
marsh wyvern
im just glad they figured out the issue finally
sour mountain
me too
marsh wyvern
sour mountain
if it had lingered for 2-3 days it would've been awful
sour mountain
and yeah the trials having Well Rolled is really really good
gives me a lot of hope for my CP chieftain
midnight phoenix
also im looking forward to delirious ultimatums that sounds nice and challenging
marsh wyvern
marsh wyvern
im liking these quality gems too
sour mountain
lmao
spiral cipher
ascendant bloood magic is suprisingly good once you actually run the numbers. You just really need to abuse the shit ouf of the "Connected to the shadow starting area.
marsh wyvern
you know it!
sour mountain
sunder is kinda fun
marsh wyvern
get out
limpid current
trialmaster is a douchenozzle
he's straight up just a troll and I love him for it
marsh wyvern
hey viper, an idea. is it possible to implement some type of tab merge feature in the future? like merging remove only tabs with the normal tabs. moving large numbers of items around is incredibly tedious
such as maps
and frags
cedar pewter
Not really the place for suggestions towards ggg 😛
marsh wyvern
yeah i was in wrong channel and didnt realize it
cedar pewter
skeletons feel so much worse now than i remembered they're so squishy, everything 1-shots em
spiral raven
Holy crap i wish Reap was a 360 circle
the 240 degree something swipe feels weird to use
marsh wyvern
@cedar pewter level them up and dont forget supports
lavish finch
Holy crap i wish Reap was a 360 circle
doesn't spell cascade make it a circle?
spiral raven
Not using spell cascade
cedar pewter
Obvioulsy im doing that, the ultimatums do insane damage though
lavish finch
Obvioulsy im doing that, the ultimatums do insane damage though
i also learnt this haha
the hard way
lavish finch
yeah, there seems to be a large mob count in them too
lavish finch
they don't come out gradually, just bam all of a sudden
cedar pewter
im very concerned about summoner
lavish finch
what build are you playing?
cedar pewter
skele summoner
lavish finch
last time i played summoner it was skele/zombies
skeles do big dmg but get deleted quick
lavish finch
hahaha
lavish finch
they feel weird, sometimes you get swarmed and nothing happens
then others they almost delete you
cedar pewter
it's the buff
vivid portal
how many rewards can i get in one ultimatum encounter?
one person in chat said 5, someone else 6
snow rock
@vivid portal it scales up depending on what act you’re in, minimum rounds is 3-4, max is 10
I think you only reach 10 on maps but not 100% on that
verbal wyvern
the ruin shades aren't actually too bad
level 30 completed 6 stages
the ruin marks for the shades are really clearly displayed
kindred dagger
oh wow those ritual 2.0 give you a shit tones of exp as long as you can handle them !
heady ice
Guys, how do you trigger the new Ultimatum mechanic?
unkempt pecan
verbal wyvern
4 seconds or so, and you fail i presume @unkempt pecan
thick ridge
Guys, how do you trigger the new Ultimatum mechanic?
The platform thing next to the guy should have three little circles to click; those are options. Clicking one should start it.
heady ice
Thanks 🙂🙂👍🏻
sour mountain
they're starting to get spicy at act 4 👀
south zealot
sour mountain
yes, you get nothing
honestly im not checking rewards
wont pay attention til maps probably
cedar pewter
5 hours to ba, with all things considered i can't complain
final umbra
Do the new gems count as ultimatum league mechanics
cedar pewter
blue map, t1, first one I've done
do they all give such an insane amount of loot?
quick raven
NOTHING??
verbal wyvern
lmao
quick raven
I did, nothing showed
split cliff
thats odd then
slender temple
he just asusmes your cheeks gonna ge tclapped
doesnt eve bother ponying up a prize !
carmine vigil
Click and see what happens
So i take it act 1 to 10 only 5 tiers and after that there is more?
amber finch
i wonder how GGG will deal with the hundreds of duped exalts
violet nymph
i forget but
is there a like end game version of ultimatum like
fractures or blight maps
or is it just the in map encounters
next epoch
is there a like end game version of ultimatum like
Yes. There are Inscribed Ultimatums, and the "Defeat the Trialmaster" challenges imply there's an encounter with him
I'm still hoping we get to see the Heart of the Blight someday
violet nymph
how do i go about getting inscribed ultimatums? im assuming its just a reward from ultimatums/
?
also me too. i usually farm blights as my main source of currency every league
next epoch
Unclear at this point. Might be an Ultimatum reward, might just be a world drop
eager terrace
I think during the stream Q&A it was mentioned they were world drops
austere geyser
are the ultimatum encounters while leveling supposed to be much harder than the leveling monsters? im playing purifying flame mines, im able to easily shotgun bosses and everything so far, but ultimatum encounters wreck me hard, also they feel really unrewarding, so far im getting useless rare trash gear
wind sundial
The trialmaster really peeves me.
He's so saucy when you don't completely beat the trials and so salty when you do
violet nymph
ive gotten some fairly good rares from it tbf but
my main gripe with ulimatum rn is i actually dont find them that hard but occassionally u just get gaped by monsters the second u spawn the encounter
wind sundial
I'm running an improved version of the end charge stacker build I made for Heist league
And the trials have gone from tough to a cakewalk and now the trialmaster is peeved everytime he sees me :P
devout osprey
so you can be hindered if you use a flask, is "you cannot be hindered" corrupt bypassed?
nvm i guess so
frank rivet
it should not get bypassed
carmine crag
oh no... got a disconnect right as I got a legendary item
violet nymph
Anybody a god at minion builds ? i could use some tips if somebody wanna help im a little confused tbh first time
tawny plover
I only play one minion build try #build-fixing