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mortal yarrow Oct 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Contracts aren't really that bad

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If anything they should just lower the amount of doors overall that's it

slow rampart Oct 17, 2020, 6:47 AM

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yeah, the amount of doors is prob biggest factor which is why i dont run heists much atm, rather do delirium mirrors/maps atm

valid mist Oct 17, 2020, 6:57 AM

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The funny thing is if the doors didn't exist, or were fewer, there would also be less bugs

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If you do an agility contract and get 3 doors in and 3 doors out that's up to a minute of literally standing, waiting, doing fuck all.

latent shell Oct 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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does the 5% on not activate lockdown work yet?

raw girder Oct 17, 2020, 12:40 PM

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What is so priceless in Golden Slave Idol?

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valid mist Oct 17, 2020, 1:24 PM

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someone at GGG thought so. shrugR

rigid stream Oct 17, 2020, 3:50 PM

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its made out of pure gold

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:14 PM

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are there any desirable heist enchanted bases to watch out for?

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:15 PM

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bases? no not really i think

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maybe that eldritch battery staff thing

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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basically just looking for items that actually roll well at the end of those grand heists, or 6 sockets?

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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oh

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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the -1 prefix +1 suffix rings/amulets might be nice

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i had 1 ring with like

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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these are what I am talking about

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:17 PM

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3 t1-2 ele res and t2 chaos res

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it was amazing

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ohh

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eh no not really i guess

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unless they are good crafting bases already I don't think they will be that valuable as bases

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:18 PM

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can they be influenced?

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:18 PM

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no idea

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:18 PM

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like increased phys modifiers on like a jeweled foil seems like a decent base

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:25 PM

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yea

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unless they are good crafting bases already I don't think they will be that valuable as bases
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verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:26 PM

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wtf

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this scepter has -3 sockets rofl

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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lol

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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i kinda wanted to take it for the memes. It was a weapon with literally 0 sockets

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:31 PM

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anything else to compensate?

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cuz there was that amulet base with -1 prefix -1 suffix and looked like shit

verbal crest Oct 17, 2020, 4:31 PM

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increased mana attributes lol

cunning blade Oct 17, 2020, 4:31 PM

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oh

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ok

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ew

surreal helm Oct 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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How exactly does deception work?

frigid venture Oct 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Ok so i know that you need a total of >161 dex across 3 rings to make an onslaught ring in synthesis league, but does that mean rings have to be >ilv82 (t1 dex) to be able to drop with onslaught from heist chests?

surreal helm Oct 17, 2020, 5:27 PM

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If she's convincing people to open a door but they want to kill you the moment the door opens

raw jolt Oct 17, 2020, 6:13 PM

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hmmm

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i got 1 shotted by a blue mob in i83 heist

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no damage mods on map, just "extra damage" on him

quaint shadow Oct 17, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Anyone ever found anything worthwhile in the Unique reward rooms?

somber bison Oct 17, 2020, 6:34 PM

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is agility still broken or is it just tullina?

quaint shadow Oct 17, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Neither

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I've been running contracts endlessly for 2 days and sometimes they get stuck in corners or vinderi gets stuck in his demolition loop, but u can just chain them away and reset and theyll do it right

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I also did multiple GH's with Tullina with no issues

somber bison Oct 17, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Gotcha, thanks

quaint shadow Oct 17, 2020, 6:37 PM

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My RNG with these exalt trinkets is a joke

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coming up on 300 regals with no exalts

odd jackal Oct 17, 2020, 9:11 PM

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How necessary is it to alch contracts?

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can I just transmute and aug?

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or am i losing out? trying to avoid bad mods

fading heron Oct 17, 2020, 10:03 PM

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how it works?
if i take karst and tull i stack their passives? or its better take only karst?

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i mean stack less raising alert

devout osprey Oct 17, 2020, 10:04 PM

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~~they do not stack~~

fading heron Oct 17, 2020, 10:04 PM

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so better to take only karst?

devout osprey Oct 17, 2020, 10:13 PM

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oh wait i missread

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tulina and karst stacks, not karst + karst

odd jackal Oct 17, 2020, 10:16 PM

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that's per wing right @devout osprey ?

devout osprey Oct 17, 2020, 10:16 PM

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yes

hoary berry Oct 17, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Does anyone know why the currency chest icon is sometimes small?

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Ohj

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They changed the gold chests to more accurately describe what could be in them

valid isle Oct 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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i cant believe how good my weapon is, yet i still cant 6l it x.X

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almost up to 700 PDPS now that i managed to get high quality on it lol

velvet palm Oct 18, 2020, 12:44 AM

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are you in ssf?

valid isle Oct 18, 2020, 12:48 AM

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nope

sharp iron Oct 18, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I feel that somewhere out there's someone with low chaos resistance that deliberately avoids doing any heists in the laboratory, or a Divine Flesh build that does all the Laboratory Heists they can do since they can essentially walk through the traps.

next epoch Oct 18, 2020, 1:27 AM

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There is. My Golden Rule build basically ignores those traps 🙂

sharp iron Oct 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Ah, right. I forgot about those and thoughts it was just Divine Flesh builds that are basically impervious to Chaos damage.

velvet palm Oct 18, 2020, 1:41 AM

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what's CI

valid isle Oct 18, 2020, 1:48 AM

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the chaos damage in lab is too all over the place

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i can do about 20 of them without watching my HP dip at all

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then i will get one shotted randomly

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honestly, my current build is pure that though

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30k armor, 30k evade, 5.2k life, perma fortify, capped all resists.
I do 99% of everything without a scratch then just explode randomly

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yep lol

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its annoying :p

cosmic charm Oct 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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is it best to open all the small chests other than currency? or is it always better to open large chests?

cunning blade Oct 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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only open good large chests tbh

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currency, fragments, delirium etc

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 2:47 AM

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is there a consensus on the best way to roll contracts? alch and go, or something more nuanced? I'm wondering about risk vs reward.

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 3:31 AM

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I'm not noticing a huge difference in chest loot from running magic vs rare.

sour fox Oct 18, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Quantity only applies to mob drops

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 3:40 AM

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I guess the balance then is between more deadly mods and more "max alive reinforcements" vs. more alert level reduction

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and of course the ultimate balance of dying means you lose it all right?

weak trout Oct 18, 2020, 4:08 AM

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i alch all of my contracts, the reduced alert raising is very noticeable

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and blueprints ill roll to like 28+% reduced raising of alert

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 4:12 AM

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blueprints definitely, makes sense to maximize those

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I guess it depends on the goal. If it's to always open all chests, then I can see wanting to have as much alert reductin as possible. Right now I'm just grinding out reveals, so I want to have decent returns but more or less guarantee I never brick one.

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Plus I can just stack alert reduction on merc gear to help.

weak trout Oct 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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can always just chaos if it bricks

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Oh, I meant brick as in me dying in it

weak trout Oct 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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yeah, thatll be really build dependent though

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Sure. I'm not that good to just ignore map mods and juice everything to the max.

weak trout Oct 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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but the 25% alert level reduction from a typical alch is 30% or so more chests you can open, outside of lockdown shenanigans

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Is that 25% more than a magic one, or just 25%-ish from alching?

weak trout Oct 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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if youve got a crew fully leveled/geared you can get away with less with crew like nenet/tullina/karst, but others youll need the alch to get most to all of the chests

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compared to normal, magics often have 10-11% reduction which is about as much more chests

celest hound Oct 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Yeah, that matches my experience. And sometimes even with just that, if I get a smallish map I can still get to all the chests without popping the lockdown timer

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I'll probably care about this more once I'm at high level contracts; I'm only running high-70s right now

blissful cargo Oct 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Hey guys and galls, Does any one know if smugglers caches are still around? Haven't found any in about 25 maps

still mural Oct 18, 2020, 5:31 AM

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They are, yeah. 10% chance to spawn, so going 25 maps without is definitely not unheard of.

eager terrace Oct 18, 2020, 5:46 AM

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fwiw I only transmute contracts

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only really find blueprints worth rolling rare

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but I also only really run lockpicks / deceptions

quaint junco Oct 18, 2020, 6:19 AM

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got a weird quest not sure how to finish it. It wants me to steal the curio case without setting off the alarm. How do you perform this?

void wing Oct 18, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Just poorly worded afaik.

still mural Oct 18, 2020, 6:52 AM

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"without setting off the alarm" just means "don't fill the alert bar & let the timer expire before getting the target item", basically

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cause once time expires the case (and all chests) are locked down and can't be opened

grand galleon Oct 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

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can someone explain to me why in the 13/13 bp that everyone fractures for streamers they can open every big chest but i'm at full alert with only half of them?

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are there specific items i need to give karst/vinderi to allow for that?

quaint junco Oct 18, 2020, 8:11 AM

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There are items that allow you to reduce the alert level. But idk what all they are only one i've seen is the torn cloak.

still mural Oct 18, 2020, 8:12 AM

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presumably they're running with specific item mods for -alert on chests, yeah

barren crescent Oct 18, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Do we know whats the spawn rate of Rogue Stash in maps? They feel really rare

sour mountain Oct 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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10% apparently

cunning blade Oct 18, 2020, 2:47 PM

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after this league, its gonna drop to lower than master spawn rates

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templarLul

carmine snow Oct 18, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Can I drop crystal belt from heist? if so what profession is better? Preception? I'm on SSF

low shard Oct 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Hey,the amount of markers i get for a heist is like 1k~ .for a grand heist i need like 25k~ to reveal the wings and most important reward rooms and escape rooms.so i at least have to do 25 heist to do a gradn heist....any tips?

sour mountain Oct 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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crystal belt is a jewellery, not an armor

grand galleon Oct 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@indigo wolf It was Cutedog’s from yesterday. I ran the exact same blueprint and he could open every reward chest and I was at full alert halfway through

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So it’s not legacy gear but maybe I need something else

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Does character level affect it maybe? Maybe I need a +4 character level cloak for Karst?

vague glen Oct 18, 2020, 6:29 PM

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anyone here capable of killing sirus?

pale salmon Oct 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Anyone got a cheat sheet for best items to set up the rogues with and best way to craft grand heists for best returns?

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Or a guide in general

sacred wyvern Oct 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Basically if you want to split blueprints
You need a blueprint with vinderi in a lot of wings (4 wings), preferably with karst, nenet and/or tullina and all characters with reduced alert gear.
A lot of currency chests if you have the trinket

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If you just want to run blueprints you have, get ruduced alert so you can open all chests.
Just craft the blueprint with a lot of increased quant

eager terrace Oct 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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you also want +1 primary jobs on your rogues

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at least the rogues that affect alert with their perks

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cutedog doesn't open every small chest though in that blueprint

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it's not needed since those chests do not ever change so you can skip the ones you know don't drop good stuff

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so the short version is like CLOAK: alert reduction for chests, % chance to not generate alert opening chest, lockdown time, whatever else

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JOB GEAR: +1 all jobs / primary job, % chance to not generate alert on X type chest, lockdown time, whatever else

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WEAPON: lockdown time, whatever you want

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BROOCH: chance to duplicate currency, quant, whatever you prefer

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remember that weapons can give you added flat damage which can be slightly relevant if you run reflect

barren crescent Oct 18, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I've targeted job speed on weapons

drifting lily Oct 18, 2020, 8:45 PM

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question
is the reward type of grand heists random ?
or , does it depend on the map ?
i always get the fucking gems

barren crescent Oct 18, 2020, 8:45 PM

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arrow heads can also give you haste aura

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you literally see the reward type at the item (bp)

drifting lily Oct 18, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@indigo wolf thx

torpid pewter Oct 18, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Does alert level affect spawn rate when you steal the artifact and trigger a lockdown? The higher the alert level, the more intense the response on lockdown?

novel root Oct 18, 2020, 11:05 PM

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hello everyone, im starting to do atlas - do i need to complete all tier 1 maps or is it okay to skip tiers? will i miss any completion bonus if i do skip tiers?

torpid pewter Oct 18, 2020, 11:05 PM

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you can jump around

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the only thing you lose out on is map drop probability and percentage boosting for higher tier maps from mobs

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You can always come back to those later

novel root Oct 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

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i just need to remove the watchstone to get back to it right?

torpid pewter Oct 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

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yeah

novel root Oct 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

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thanks!

valid isle Oct 18, 2020, 11:29 PM

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finally got a good heist trinket

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regals -> exalt
+quantity
+chance for metamorph
+change for legion

proper pasture Oct 19, 2020, 1:16 AM

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is it even worth it to alch heist i cant really tell a difference in drops

cunning blade Oct 19, 2020, 1:20 AM

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reduced alert level lets u open more chests

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same with lock down timer

cosmic charm Oct 19, 2020, 1:22 AM

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how do you get your dudes to rank 5+? just gotta find the green quest things?

gloomy carbon Oct 19, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Can anybody tell if brooch is actually working?

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I have t1 rolls everywhere and havent noticed a thing

cunning blade Oct 19, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Fixed a bug where Heist Brooch modifiers which could duplicate rewards were not functioning correctly.
@gloomy carbon

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exaltsurprised

gloomy carbon Oct 19, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Yes, I'm aware of that, I'm saying I haven't noticed a difference with 3x15% rolls. So I'm questioning if anybody has actually been up to tell if it actually works? or how?

sharp iron Oct 19, 2020, 2:06 AM

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How do you find an Astrolabe Amulet?

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Is there like a "Has experimental base types" blueprint type that has those as an option?

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My league goal is to get an Astrolabe Amulet with one affix of every influence type, so I'm trying to decide whether buying one or trying to find one is the better way to go.

sharp iron Oct 19, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Alright

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I don't know the exact odds of getting an influenced mod instead of a normal mod, but I estimated that the chance of getting that set of affixes to be about 1/500 for each reroll. Which might sound like a lot, but it doesn't have to be from chaos. Alchemy orbs and reasonators are also able to reroll a new set of affixes.

So it should be do-able.

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I actually have 30 chaos right now so I could buy the base right now, or at least soon.

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It'll be nice for me to actually complete the league goal I have planned for once.

valid mist Oct 19, 2020, 5:33 AM

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wut

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civic wyvern Oct 19, 2020, 6:12 AM

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So what does the +1 to job level do exactly?

cunning blade Oct 19, 2020, 6:23 AM

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does what it says it does

void wing Oct 19, 2020, 6:24 AM

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A rogue's intrinsic perk scales with highest job level, this is the benefit of + job level.

civic wyvern Oct 19, 2020, 6:30 AM

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@void wing so what does character level do then?

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@eager terrace what does job level do over character level?

eager terrace Oct 19, 2020, 6:31 AM

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increasing primary job level increases the strength of their perk

void wing Oct 19, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Character level is as good as a dead stat.

civic wyvern Oct 19, 2020, 6:32 AM

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gotcha

eager terrace Oct 19, 2020, 6:32 AM

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character level basically just makes them do more damage

civic wyvern Oct 19, 2020, 6:32 AM

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ah

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ty

cinder peak Oct 19, 2020, 10:33 AM

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if i run grand heist and open so many boxes that bar fills all - do i have time for lockdown as on normal heists?

barren crescent Oct 19, 2020, 10:36 AM

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You should, I think its even bit longer lockdown than normal heists

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There is a mod tho that lockdown is instant when alert pops

cinder peak Oct 19, 2020, 10:37 AM

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:o

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ok ok

barren crescent Oct 19, 2020, 10:37 AM

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so double check for that before you go for lockdown timer strats

cinder peak Oct 19, 2020, 10:38 AM

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of course

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btw is there any guide for current challenges? like a nice guide

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i've seen two guides

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/j01v35/heist_league_challenges_analysisnewbie_guide/

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the other link is deleted. bot removed it

verbal crest Oct 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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why never more than 2% PepeHands

inland summit Oct 19, 2020, 8:33 PM

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does anyone know if hits with bladestorm trigger Iron Mass for skellies?

cerulean narwhal Oct 20, 2020, 1:38 AM

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weren't there some good Heist cheatsheets?

cobalt falcon Oct 20, 2020, 1:41 AM

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#guides-archive have it

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Why people search lvl4/5 lockpick? What the different

eager terrace Oct 20, 2020, 2:17 AM

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from what I can tell they have higher rates of dual chest rooms

velvet palm Oct 20, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Lockpick has the highest frequency of currency nodes from my experience

runic thistle Oct 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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does alchemy orb on a contract do anything?

next epoch Oct 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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sure, turns it rare

runic thistle Oct 20, 2020, 6:18 AM

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@next epoch I mean, it gives more exp ? more drop rate or something?

austere tulip Oct 20, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Does anyone know why two currency rooms at the same price grade cost different amounts in a grand heist?

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I have one that costs 1566 and another 1701

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Unless it just falls in between two random numbers

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Theorycraft that it predetermines the rewards and gives a price based on what it rolled

cobalt falcon Oct 20, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Yeah but with duplicate things, we know its have different reward content

prime rapids Oct 20, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Are the enchanted armaments blue print worth running?

still mural Oct 20, 2020, 12:02 PM

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it adds mods, and each mod gives +lockdown time/less alert level/more enemies during the escape. much like map mods give iiq/iir @runic thistle

barren crescent Oct 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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cat even stands up, heist mechanics

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wooden cloud Oct 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Only reason I'm still doing heist is for cat

leaden crow Oct 20, 2020, 2:56 PM

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i already got the cat

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and im still playing poe

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what am i doing with my life

blazing zealot Oct 20, 2020, 3:40 PM

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does anyone know what heist items have the +1 to level

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specifically for perception

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tryna get a lvl 4 to lvl 5 so i can do a heist

rigid stream Oct 20, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Lvl 83+ Job gear

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Low weighting

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Weight of 100

bright condor Oct 20, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Hey does anyone know if multiple lines of a trinket can proc? for instance, i have a 13% scour to regret, and 3% regal to exalt on my trinket. If the scour to regret procs will my regal to exalt not work?

true jay Oct 20, 2020, 5:17 PM

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does running with 3% regal to exalt beastsplit worth it or does it need to be 4%?

unkempt dome Oct 20, 2020, 5:42 PM

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anyone have sheet for min-max heist gears?

brazen mango Oct 20, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Is Heist instance crashing still prevalent? I gave it 2 weeks off for bug fixes but am still unable to complete a simple contract.

flat stratus Oct 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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soo idk what im doing wrong (if i do smth wrong) but i dont rly make much profit with currency heist i open all the chest and have a regal to ex trinket do i have to run insane blueprints for profit and is it worth it to run just one because i have liek 250c wich would only be enough for one so idk is that worth it?

brazen mango Oct 20, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Du....Du Heist....Du Heist Nicht

flat stratus Oct 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Du heist ja

quick raven Oct 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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man I got 35% total demolition speed on vinderi and it still seems kinda slow

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I dont think affects the run back and shield animation

rigid stream Oct 20, 2020, 7:36 PM

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You mostly need it for running Back during lockdown because there is a Penalty to Speed during it

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And Blueprints are a Hit or miss cause every room costs Like 7C to unlock, so you need to be picky which you unlock

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Speed doesnt Clash with the good stats

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So having it is only a Bonus

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Uh - cost and dmg

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And XP gain

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Which is useless after max lvl

quick raven Oct 20, 2020, 7:46 PM

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lol yeah the marker price hurts, I thought I made a nice profit off my first red maps blueprint, turns out after marker cost I made like 5c

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and that was using gianna to unlock all the wings

rigid stream Oct 20, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Its random If you Profit or not. Often you have stuff that can be good, but isnt.

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Harby can give you Just anullment shards instead of exalt shards

wheat star Oct 21, 2020, 3:53 AM

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does doing grand heist with another person increase the rate of drop or does it not affect any drop rate

warped valve Oct 21, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Guys can u buy gear fom heist ? All i saw i could buy is more contracts whit coins

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 5:40 AM

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you can buy stuff from other players, as always, but the only stuff you can buy from a vendor are Whakano's contracts (which cap out at i67)

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and you don't buy those with rogue markers

edgy pond Oct 21, 2020, 6:38 AM

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is it me or demolition is bugged

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despite having demo speed and other mods, it seems like it only runs at its default speed

sharp iron Oct 21, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Personally, if I were to design a fight like the Twins where you fight two bosses at once, what I would do is have the bosses do this combo where one of them charges up this super choerographed attack, and the other drops a currency or otherwise valuable item into the area where the attack hits right before it launches.

It would clearly show the enemies working together, and it would being a new dynamic into the fight. If you paying attention then obviously an item dropping mod-fight is suspicious. But it toys with your instincts and if you're not giving the game full focus, it could result in an easy death.

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If the Twins pulled something like that off, that would make them feel more cunning then most PoE villains. Because they trick the player and not the player character.

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 6:50 AM

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job speed increases only affect the bit where the bar fills up; they don't speed up any other part of the animation. for jobs like demolition and agility, the bar filling is a fairly small part of the overall animation, so it doesn't have that much effect. @edgy pond

lost trench Oct 21, 2020, 7:42 AM

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can you get a unique contract drop when you already have another one in your inventory?

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 7:57 AM

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shouldn't matter

raw grove Oct 21, 2020, 9:27 AM

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is stacked deck counted as currency or div card (for the brooch)?

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 9:39 AM

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I'd guess div card; it isn't really currency

stiff rover Oct 21, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Hi, is there a way to tell how far along you are on the green contract questlines to unlock the unique contracts, I've been doing heists almost exclusively for a week or two and am not sure how far along in the twins, darnaw etc lines?

hasty trout Oct 21, 2020, 9:50 AM

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is it worth using marks for lvl50-60 blueprints (grand heists right?)?

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 9:51 AM

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it's probably on poedb somewhere, if you nose around @stiff rover

stiff rover Oct 21, 2020, 9:57 AM

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ah cheers I'll take a look

pliant sapphire Oct 21, 2020, 9:57 AM

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did they fix the heist traps or whatever people were dying to?

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heard it stated in notes that it got fixed but it was a scamaz.

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🤣

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so i stopped touching heists(i play ssfhc).

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 9:58 AM

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it's easy to avoid even if they didn't fix it (though I think they did)

pliant sapphire Oct 21, 2020, 9:58 AM

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what was going on?

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 9:59 AM

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so in trap heists, there are corridors with mines that your rogue needs to disarm. some of these corridors are active when you enter, which is fine. some of them are not active when you enter and activate/arm when you trigger the lockdown.

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the issue is whether they trigger when the timer starts, or when it ends

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previously they activated when the timer started, so if you were trying to open chests during the lockdown, you might wind up with a hallway of traps in your way

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now they're (supposed to) arm when the timer ends/when you open the target item case, so that won't be an issue

pliant sapphire Oct 21, 2020, 10:00 AM

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but you could still see the trap regardless right? I remember spotting those untriggered ones and preparing myself for them

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 10:00 AM

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but you can just keep an eye out for those narrow hallways, much like you should be keeping an eye out for perception rooms

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yep

pliant sapphire Oct 21, 2020, 10:02 AM

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alright cool, thank you.

void wing Oct 21, 2020, 10:18 AM

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You couldn't disarm them from the side you would be in that case btw.

frigid holly Oct 21, 2020, 1:08 PM

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ANy signals that they are going to nerf heist XP? IMO they should - I tried the tip Zizaran publicized of just farming 3 or 4 circuits of level 83 heists and got 20% of a level at level 96 in like 3 heists yesterday. I'm pretty sure that will need to be nerfed if not now then for sure before Heist goes core next league

rigid stream Oct 21, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Next league

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They usually dont do in League nerfs

hasty trout Oct 21, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Is the heist cheat sheet on reddit incorrect? I did an engineering contract and got an essence reward room. Cheat sheet says I should be getting Uniques and Maps.

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Thread is "Heist Cheat Sheet 1.1 - Originally Made By /u/chuanhsing"
Not sure if I'm allowed to link to the thread.

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 1:42 PM

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the one in #guides-archive is the most up to date

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but engineering can also have the ?/generic chests

hasty trout Oct 21, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Ty

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Wait, so the up to date 1 is also somewhat incorrect?

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 1:43 PM

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just that one bit

pseudo heart Oct 21, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Anyone knows how the blueprint reveals work from normal heists? Refering to "Added information to the Contract UI screen and at the completion of a Heist to tell you if the area level of the Heist would be or was too low to grant Blueprint Reveals upon completion."

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 4:15 PM

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if you put a contract into adiyah's interface and it's too low level to get a reveal, a warning shows up on that ui @pseudo heart

pseudo heart Oct 21, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I'm more confused about how the part where you get a reveal works @still mural I have run 100's of contracts but never once gotten some reveal a blueprint happening after completing the heist? All lvl 83

barren crescent Oct 21, 2020, 4:31 PM

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it has no pop up

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talk to whakano

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 4:32 PM

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so you earn a "reveal" with Whakano. You then use that reveal to reveal a wing or a room in a blueprint, by talking to Whakano and putting the blueprint in his interface.

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it also costs rogue markers

pseudo heart Oct 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Ah okay, can see that I have 136 reveals there now

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I thought it implied you had a chance to get a free reveal for no marker cost

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Ah! nope

pseudo heart Oct 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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never really noticed that the reveleas were limited since they are so damn expensive compared to the amount you get..

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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You also earn reveals when you run contracts with Niles, who gives a 10% marker discount, and Gianna, who gives a higher discount based on her deception level

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generally the marker cost is more significant than the reveal count, so Gianna's reveals are especially important since they can give like a 50% discount if you boost her level

pseudo heart Oct 21, 2020, 4:34 PM

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That makes sense, thanks

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 4:36 PM

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you access those the same way, just press the arrow next to whakano's portrait (or you can talk to niles/gianna and put the blueprint in their interface the same way, but it's more walking without much reason)

pseudo heart Oct 21, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Ah never knew you could change it to reveal with Gianna and Niles, that will save me heaps of marks thanks

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I try to only reveal wings with Gianna, as those are the most expensive, and the rest it depends how much it costs and whether I feel like waiting to run heists for more discounted reveals

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like, if I'm revealing a wing I'm using Gianna to do it; not that I never use Gianna reveals on rooms

sour mountain Oct 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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You only really reveal with Niles if you have been doing counter thaumaturgy 5 contracts

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And don't have any gianna reveals

valid isle Oct 21, 2020, 5:22 PM

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i find i hardly ever have gianna reveals

sour mountain Oct 21, 2020, 5:31 PM

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run gianna contracts to get gianna reveals shrugR

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not much more you can do than that

pure pollen Oct 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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can fractured fossils drop in heists from fossil chests?

neon path Oct 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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is there any way to search for blueprints with currency rooms on pathofexile.com/trade?

rigid stream Oct 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Not really, people sometimes write in notes what the Print has

runic zephyr Oct 21, 2020, 7:40 PM

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am i understanding it right - if i loot every chest and dont get this one quest item in the end, i lose ALL the loot i got?!?!!?!

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i got every chest, didnt get the final item before lockdown, and my inventory was empty after leaving.

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nevermind, it wasnt all items, it was just the last few. well no biggie

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 8:25 PM

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You keep what you have when you leave, as long as you don't crash or die after setting off the alarm

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if you don't get the target item then your rogue gets no XP and you don't get markers or reveals, but it doesn't affect your inventory

modest yoke Oct 21, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Every time longer and longer 😄

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prisma crescent Oct 21, 2020, 9:10 PM

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does completing unique contracts not give reveals

brazen mango Oct 21, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Is Heist instance crashing still prevalent or did the latest patch fix some of these issues?

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 9:18 PM

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It varies; I know there's some folks who are still crashing so much they basically can't play, and others ( 🙋 ) who aren't crashing at all

rigid stream Oct 21, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Is there actually a guide in guides to try common things out that might cause crashes?

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stuff like chrome beeing shit, drivers, the game defaulting to x32 launcher after an update, Windows10 update that causes memory compression, some GPU special game launcher etc

still mural Oct 21, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Not that I know of; you're probably best served by nosing through the technical support forums?

rigid stream Oct 21, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Thats a hassle though for the people that ask here. Probably 5 times a day i talk to people that have wierd issues they shouldnt have and that at times can be fixed by going through a list of things

brazen mango Oct 21, 2020, 9:52 PM

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That would indeed be nice to have access to

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I am in the group of 'basically can't play' people

willow marten Oct 21, 2020, 11:58 PM

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All my friends that were crashing after latest patch were using Vulcan and have reduced their crashes (and FPS is some cases) going to direct X. It’s small sample size like 10 people but worth a shot.

hazy vault Oct 22, 2020, 12:27 AM

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how does heist gear apply

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only to us if it specifies right?

quartz trellis Oct 22, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Anyone know if the follower brooches are working yet? Don't seem to be so far. Figured they'd have this done already

sharp iron Oct 22, 2020, 12:48 AM

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How do you get Giana?

willow marten Oct 22, 2020, 12:57 AM

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@quartz trellis The currency duplication brooch is definitely working. You'd need to be more specific for what isn't working to be certain.

quartz trellis Oct 22, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Div card stuff @willow marten

willow marten Oct 22, 2020, 12:58 AM

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@sharp iron Use the last rogue you unlocked and a new rogue will accompany them into the heist, repeat until you have all 9

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Yeah I don't know how you'd test that since the brooch only adds additional

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vs. the obvious duplication mechanic

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I guess you could do 100 div card caches without a div brooch then 100 with and see if there is a difference in outcome

quartz trellis Oct 22, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Unless it's just not doubling stacked decks

sharp iron Oct 22, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Last rogue I unlocked was Niles

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Giana is the only one I have left

quartz trellis Oct 22, 2020, 1:12 AM

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@indigo wolf do you think it'll double the cards if we have the currency brooch on your heist mates? lol

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The stacked decks

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don't care much about the regular cards that come from the chests since it's superrrr rare that they're worth much, if anything

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yea, this whole system is messed up tbh considering that stacked DECKS are considered 'currency' apparently.

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YEP

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lmfao it works @indigo wolf . Just had my first div-chest double the stacked decks

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FFS this game sometimes lol

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So to get double stacked decks, use a currency brooch

hasty trout Oct 22, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Is there a way to check which heist quests I've done and which ones I haven't done?

brazen mango Oct 22, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Look under challenges/achievements then 'complete heist quests'

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Also new patch and using DirectX- still crashes heists, so depressing

left abyss Oct 22, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Anyone know if the follower brooches are working yet? Don't seem to be so far. Figured they'd have this done already
@quartz trellis I thought so too, but I was running karst and my currency brooch procced

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however it seems really low I ran about 30+ lockpicking contracts and it only worked once and I have a 15% duplicate currency

cobalt falcon Oct 22, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Duplicate work like vinderi?

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All currency or each drop roll

left abyss Oct 22, 2020, 3:56 AM

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All currency or each drop roll
@cobalt falcon like vinderi. i heard the chest go off twice and I got double off the whole chest

sick hemlock Oct 22, 2020, 4:55 AM

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what does character level from whisper woven cloak do? I got a +2 on Gianna but it doesn't lower the cost reveal blueprint

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just checked reddit, it does literally nothing...

still mural Oct 22, 2020, 5:51 AM

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it raises their combat stats a bit, but yeah, it's one of the worst mods

warm lodge Oct 22, 2020, 5:54 AM

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which contracts give back the most rogue markers?

still mural Oct 22, 2020, 5:55 AM

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the ones with the "priceless" marker value

warm lodge Oct 22, 2020, 5:55 AM

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awesome thanks

still mural Oct 22, 2020, 5:56 AM

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priceless > precious > high value > moderate value

warm lodge Oct 22, 2020, 5:59 AM

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never even noticed those lol

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does running heists as rare do anything to the reward? also is there any point corrupting hesists

still mural Oct 22, 2020, 6:02 AM

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mods give you increased lockdown time, reduced alert from chests, and more enemies during the escape; it doesn't affect the marker rewards

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and no, no reason to corrupt anything related to heists

swift fable Oct 22, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Are there are set amount of green contracts or do they keep dropping forever

silver kettle Oct 22, 2020, 6:32 AM

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@swift fable a set amount. You can't drop one you've completed

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The unique contracts drop infinitely though

valid mist Oct 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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If decks are currency then why the fuck are they not in my currency tab?

still mural Oct 22, 2020, 9:16 AM

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idk that they're considered currency, but not everything goes into its respective tab anyway (delirium splinters don't go in the fragments tab, breachlord blessings don't go in a tab...)

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and stacked decks can go in the catch-all slots at the bottom of the currency tab

valid mist Oct 22, 2020, 10:46 AM

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which already get eaten up by other miscellaneous buillshit that should be in one of the main tabs but gets its own league-specific one for money grubbing reasons (blight)

still mural Oct 22, 2020, 10:50 AM

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personally I put stuff like metamorph, delirium, blight, fossils into their own normal tab, or together with some others in a quad tab; I keep the catch-all slots of the currency tab for stuff I use or fiddle with more often (like stacked decks)

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also I don't think there's room to put stuff like blight oils into one of the existing tabs shrugR

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like currency or fragments would make the most sense, but they're both quite full

void wing Oct 22, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Upgraded breachstones don't go into the fragment tab templarLul

valid isle Oct 22, 2020, 4:14 PM

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yeah, upgraded breachstones annoy me to no end

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i run them just because i have no where to put them lol

rigid stream Oct 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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They fit into any normal Tab marauderthinking

valid isle Oct 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yeah, but im OCD af lol

slow pond Oct 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

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the fragment tab should include a space for those if you ask me

valid isle Oct 22, 2020, 5:37 PM

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a lot of the tabs could use some upgrades

pure hound Oct 22, 2020, 9:06 PM

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How's this setup?

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rigid stream Oct 22, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I dont know for Sure, but i dont think passives Stack with Themselves. So doubling vinderi wont Double has passive. I cant even confirmed if Equipment from the Same follower stacks with itself

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Because taking Double vinderi didnt reflect in the tooltip, which it probably should If it works

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But maybe the people that run Split prints more often know more

eager terrace Oct 22, 2020, 9:22 PM

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you can’t double within a wing no

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or rather you shouldn’t, it does nothing

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I think it did for like the first week

rigid stream Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Thats why you should aim for Vinderi/Karst/Nenet-Tullina

meager jay Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Do you reveal everything on a grand heist or just some rooms?

rigid stream Oct 22, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Depends

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Always Reveal currency/metamorph/divcard and maybe Prophecy

meager jay Oct 22, 2020, 9:35 PM

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and always reveal all the wings?

rigid stream Oct 22, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yes

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Wings with Giana

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Rest with Wakano

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Or Neiles

meager jay Oct 22, 2020, 9:36 PM

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and what about the escape rooms?

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just never reveal those?

rigid stream Oct 22, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Depends on how much time they save

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If its directly next to the curio, sure Reveal it. But If its like 1 room from the normal escape, no

hybrid tapir Oct 22, 2020, 10:25 PM

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is GGG gonna fix the rogues from bugging out from not opening doors when u tell them too

rigid stream Oct 22, 2020, 11:48 PM

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prismatic and fertile are 2c each and a room costs only 2c-3c to reveal.

sharp iron Oct 23, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Is there any list of experimental base types anywhere?

bright perch Oct 23, 2020, 1:21 AM

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https://poedb.tw/us/Experimented

PoEDB

PoEDB provides new things come out each league, as well as unreleased skills or MTX, as all of the information is directly datamined from the game itself.

sharp iron Oct 23, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Oh thanks

slender temple Oct 23, 2020, 2:53 AM

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@hybrid tapir minions seem to hard stop them 👎

lean mulch Oct 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Does heist still give like 250 million + experience?

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For tunnels and repository

sharp iron Oct 23, 2020, 6:18 AM

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If I was able to make experimental base type items, I'd make three, being Armour, Evasion, and Energy Shield helmets that give about half as much defense as the highest tier bases of those do, and all have the effect "Item can be modified by Catalysts"

broken basalt Oct 23, 2020, 7:59 AM

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hey guys, what else do i need to to to run this?

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rigid stream Oct 23, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Uh gonto aryia and Open it?

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You can make it Magic/rare first

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To get more rewards

broken basalt Oct 23, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Adiyah will not take it.. :S

still mural Oct 23, 2020, 8:17 AM

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go to the planning room, behind Kurai, and assign your rogues to each wing

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once you do that you can then open & run it with Adiyah (be sure to choose grand heist, not normal heist)

broken basalt Oct 23, 2020, 8:18 AM

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ohhhhhh i was pressing Ctrl out of habit...

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thanks!

rigid stream Oct 23, 2020, 8:24 AM

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Isnt it already Approved? Thats why it has the stamp?

still mural Oct 23, 2020, 8:39 AM

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that may have been it

sonic jacinth Oct 23, 2020, 4:21 PM

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does 5 for 1 corrupted rare for uncorrupted rare work on trinkets?

coral garden Oct 23, 2020, 4:48 PM

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no

wooden cloud Oct 23, 2020, 6:28 PM

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are regal -> exalt or chaos -> exalt better trinketwise?

still mural Oct 23, 2020, 6:37 PM

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chaos are also worth more than regals

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so you don't want to convert them if you can help it

valid mist Oct 23, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Which is weird because the chaso to exalt one is shit.

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It's stupidly rare for seemingly no practical reason.

dark solar Oct 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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what area is the GR8B0-Y?

copper kernel Oct 23, 2020, 7:36 PM

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the robot zones

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he can spawn after you trigger the alarm too

hybrid tapir Oct 23, 2020, 10:04 PM

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@slender temple wat does minions have to do with rogues not opening the doors

cinder peak Oct 23, 2020, 11:54 PM

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no map ever dropped for me. can you tell why? i have no clue

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cunning blade Oct 23, 2020, 11:54 PM

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they quite rare

devout osprey Oct 23, 2020, 11:54 PM

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i think it requires a certain ilvl, i got maps just few hours ago

cinder peak Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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what do you think would be enough. 72?

cunning blade Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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why not like 83

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vanity

cinder peak Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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i'm noob

cunning blade Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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o

cinder peak Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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and no maps

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character level doesn't count

devout osprey Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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68 should be enough, but idk

cinder peak Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 PM

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:/

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ok i try support on forum

devout osprey Oct 23, 2020, 11:56 PM

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??

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we do not know the exact mechanics

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unless poedb got it

cinder peak Oct 23, 2020, 11:58 PM

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don't worry

midnight phoenix Oct 24, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Map is the rarest chest

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U can force it tho

cinder peak Oct 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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does it drop on heists too or just grands

midnight phoenix Oct 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Yeah regular heists

devout osprey Oct 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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those small chests

cinder peak Oct 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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yes i open as many chests i can

devout osprey Oct 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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without icons like chaos orb or harbinger

cinder peak Oct 24, 2020, 12:09 AM

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yes i do

sonic glen Oct 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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I'm finding that I have way more grand heists than I have markers to reveal them...do I just run them with one wing?

slender temple Oct 24, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Based rooms

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We need more trade filters

valid isle Oct 24, 2020, 7:09 AM

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i think i am done with this league lol

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im amazed i took like 15 characters to 90~95 and didnt find the unique contract for the ultimate boss

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outside of that though, it was fun

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think i figured out my league starter too, for next league

void wing Oct 24, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Yea the twins contract only dropped from lvl 83 smuggler caches after you completed it's questline.

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Now they've made it easier.

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But that was just dumb.

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t16 only, 10% spawn chance, if you have the quest line completed still RNG to drop it.

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Classic GGG endgame boss accessibility.

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And they drop a corrupted ammy templarLul

valid isle Oct 24, 2020, 7:59 AM

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i think the ammy is pretty cool

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its actually REALLY strong for like... a crit lightning build

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makes it super easy to hit 100% crit chance, along with reducing their resists and damage dealt

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(that said, i have only been doing t16s and nothing lol)

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i think if i do any other builds if i get bored

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ill do something with that ammy

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just not sure how to go about doing stat balance lol

opaque ivy Oct 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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0 regal orb ty ggg gl good nerf

runic zephyr Oct 24, 2020, 4:40 PM

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i thought you can go back in when you die? or is everything lost?

raw locust Oct 24, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Anyone know what mechanic triggers the twins to swap places in the fight? Didn't see an explanation in any guide vids, and there's not a clear ability in POEDB that explains it.

light adder Oct 24, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Kill ranged (crossbow guy) first

raw locust Oct 24, 2020, 6:05 PM

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❤️

light adder Oct 24, 2020, 6:05 PM

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They swap when melee guy is below 75% hp or so

surreal helm Oct 24, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Do we get any markers for unique contracts?

late gale Oct 24, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Guys, wtf is this? I just did the pussycat quest and 5 of my rogues disappeared and I can't hire them anymore...

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Has anyone else had this?

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Great stuff

terse sinew Oct 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Is job speed still broken

slender temple Oct 24, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Wonderful

still mural Oct 24, 2020, 10:03 PM

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No @surreal helm

dim moat Oct 25, 2020, 3:28 AM

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which rogue gets lvl 5 traps?

carmine fiber Oct 25, 2020, 3:58 AM

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vinderi

coral garden Oct 25, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Nani

crystal phoenix Oct 25, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Is there anything special to getting a unique contract? I’m lvl 95 and all rogues maxed. Atlas complete, heist challenges complete but 0 unique contracts

dim moat Oct 25, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Nope they increased the chances tho and I immediately got one

still mural Oct 25, 2020, 8:34 AM

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You get them from smuggler's caches in maps. Each unique contract has a questline leading up to it, so you need to do the green quest contracts (and it's not the ones for the quest contract challenge) before the unique for that line can drop. The green contracts & the uniques both have a minimum ilvl to drop, which you can probably check on poedb.

crystal phoenix Oct 25, 2020, 8:46 AM

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ya completed all of them and doing t16s only

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like when I say atlas complete I mean

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complete

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all objectives and awakening objectives

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lol

runic zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 9:16 AM

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why are some contracts normal/magic/rare rarity and some are green?

crystal phoenix Oct 25, 2020, 9:19 AM

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those are the quest line contracts

naive geyser Oct 25, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Guys maybe you know if i have duplicate currency brooch on vinderi and im using him with karst also with duplicate currency which is openning chests the bonus is stacking ?

hasty trout Oct 25, 2020, 12:33 PM

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How do I check if I've completed the required quests for the unique contracts (not the 15 challenge quests)?

frigid venture Oct 25, 2020, 12:43 PM

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would it be at all possible that an alt would drop as an exalt if two of the mods procced simultaneously? (or if it is at all possible for 2 of the mods to proc simultaneously?)

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velvet palm Oct 25, 2020, 5:11 PM

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big doubt

west plank Oct 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

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yall ever just heist w kduvw

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half panther Oct 25, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Always

rotund zephyr Oct 26, 2020, 3:03 AM

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hey everyone..what are the best spectres for heist? I'm kinda struggling atm using Ashblessed Wardens (fire)

boreal arrow Oct 26, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Does anyone know if there are any particular maps or areas that contain smugglers catches? I've been trying to find more to gain more contracts but so far haven't had much luck.

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I'm a witch and part of the heist league.

light adder Oct 26, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Just rng, every 10 maps on average

boreal arrow Oct 26, 2020, 6:29 AM

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@light adder Okay, so just keep going through maps? Sounds good! I'll just keep looking. Thanks! :)

void wing Oct 26, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Normal contracts drop pretty often from enemies.

boreal arrow Oct 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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@void wing. Okay, I'll just continue going through maps and be on the look out. Thanks :)

cobalt falcon Oct 26, 2020, 6:56 AM

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So i already get ||hana killed|| , twin next?

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Or i need kill 3 unique boss first

void wing Oct 26, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Should be able to twins now.

leaden fjord Oct 26, 2020, 11:48 AM

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jesus heist is still rippy

cinder peak Oct 26, 2020, 12:57 PM

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STILL DOESN'T DROP

barren crescent Oct 26, 2020, 12:58 PM

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just open every small chest you find

cinder peak Oct 26, 2020, 12:58 PM

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that's what i do

livid lake Oct 26, 2020, 1:05 PM

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check which contract spawns map boxes

cinder peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:25 PM

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engineering

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ok i picked up

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can i just go out or need to make this heist

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i will just do it

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dont want it to bug

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I JUST GOT IT AND NOTHING

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https://i.imgur.com/UgQwso7.png

Imgur

violet nymph Oct 26, 2020, 1:46 PM

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does anybody have the updated graph with all master levels and rewards?

severe hamlet Oct 26, 2020, 2:28 PM

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can someone tell me is it really profitable to run splitted blueprints with 18 currency rewards with 2% regal to ex trinket? Split beast is 5.5-6ex right now, so you need to make 7ex for it to be worth it

slow pond Oct 26, 2020, 3:21 PM

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probably is

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does anybody have the updated graph with all master levels and rewards?
@violet nymph #guides-archive has it

onyx talon Oct 26, 2020, 3:42 PM

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is it worth it to buy a trinket with regal -> ex? I'm gonna grind it a lot I think, right now I have alt -> alch/chaos I dropped before

coarse moon Oct 26, 2020, 4:24 PM

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if you’re going to grind bps definitely buy the trinket

cunning blade Oct 26, 2020, 4:24 PM

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@severe hamlet if u got like some really good rogue gear probably

blazing zealot Oct 26, 2020, 5:43 PM

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so

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where do i go to tell ppl i haev a contract they can mirror for 25c

cinder peak Oct 26, 2020, 6:35 PM

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how do i do this? any orb would tick that?

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devout osprey Oct 26, 2020, 6:36 PM

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any orb, even scroll of wisdom if its magic rare or unique

cinder peak Oct 26, 2020, 6:36 PM

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okkk

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so it's just random

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so just do maps?

devout osprey Oct 26, 2020, 6:42 PM

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yes, the map "oba's cursed trove" or someting got unique arcanist strongbox in the end

cinder peak Oct 26, 2020, 6:43 PM

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got it

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just need monolith now

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is there any help for getting amulet and ring for challenge just to wear it for a sec?

devout osprey Oct 26, 2020, 6:59 PM

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maybe #trading

cold bridge Oct 26, 2020, 9:24 PM

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guys this here is referring to the blueprint level right?

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eager terrace Oct 26, 2020, 9:29 PM

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well it is referring to the item level

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but BPs drop equal or higher item level trinkets

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anywhere from +0 to +2

quick raven Oct 26, 2020, 10:07 PM

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What's the minimum number of currency nodes a blueprint needs to be worth revealing/running? I got a few bps with 7-9 currency but the marker reveals are so goddamn expensive

eager terrace Oct 26, 2020, 10:17 PM

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depends on your trinket

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I'd run 7-9 currencies with a 4% if I wasn't spamming fractures

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gianna reveal wings and don't open too many junk rooms

quick raven Oct 26, 2020, 10:18 PM

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oof, I dont even have an ex trinket, can afford a 2% or maybe 3% tho

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gianna reveals are like 1-1.5c per room and 5c per wing

eager terrace Oct 26, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I think it's worth investing if you're doing even a moderate amount of contracts/BPs

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even a 2% is 1 exalt per 50 regals avg

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and regals are hella common

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removed them from my filter common

quick raven Oct 26, 2020, 10:35 PM

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vinderi duplicate doesn't stack with trinkets does it? Like you cant get triple or quadruple rewards from a chest?

eager terrace Oct 26, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I've not seen it

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to me they seem like one roll

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like you get either one

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they behave slightly differently though

quick raven Oct 26, 2020, 10:38 PM

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ok thanks

sinful oxide Oct 27, 2020, 12:56 AM

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for the heist quests

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do they only drop from the chests in maps?

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or can i find them elsewhere

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got just one last one for the challenge and i cant seem to get it

still mural Oct 27, 2020, 1:09 AM

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the green quest contracts only drop from smuggler's caches in maps; the orange unique contracts can drop from the caches or from the final rooms of heists (and maybe grand heists? I forget) once you've done the green quests that unlock them (which are not the ones in the quest challenge, btw).

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@sinful oxide

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there are minimum ilvls/zone levels for the green contracts & the unique boss contracts; you can check the required level for the one you're missing on poedb

sinful oxide Oct 27, 2020, 1:10 AM

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thanks

quick raven Oct 27, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Is there a good way to buy grand heists? Like I dont think I can sort on the main website for like minimum 7 currency or stuff like that

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I guess I could sort by job reqs but that doesnt seem that great

cobalt falcon Oct 27, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Twin contract really random?

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2 sirius cycle

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Still not found it

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I already done that sad contract

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Smuggler only give rare contract

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Is there any more prequisite

light adder Oct 27, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Don´t think so, seems just to be rare

random copper Oct 27, 2020, 2:08 AM

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you know what is this ?

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devout osprey Oct 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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idk what to say, its the font of thunder

random copper Oct 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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ye but can't find it on poe ninja?

devout osprey Oct 27, 2020, 2:09 AM

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i could

light adder Oct 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Unique armours

random copper Oct 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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ok ty

cunning blade Oct 27, 2020, 3:18 AM

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isn't it used for the replica nebulis build

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vanity

cobalt falcon Oct 27, 2020, 3:35 AM

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Safe replica nebulis build?

quaint shadow Oct 27, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Do you have to find that one item on each character to use a trinket? or is there an easy way to unlock the trinket slot on each character?

light adder Oct 27, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Any trinket grand heist will unlock the slot

quaint shadow Oct 27, 2020, 4:19 AM

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ok thanks

opal sparrow Oct 27, 2020, 7:32 AM

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hey guys. with the underbelly and smuggler's den (trinkets & currency) grand heists. do display cases contain exalted orbs or exalted shards? never ran one before trying to figure out if it's worth it buying blueprints fro trade market

barren crescent Oct 27, 2020, 7:35 AM

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I've never seen it have either

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usually just alcs&chaos orbs

opal sparrow Oct 27, 2020, 7:36 AM

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hmms. i see some BP's going for like 1ex so i was curious what the returns are

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i invest 10-20c for other blueprints and i get 1ex-3x per BP return

barren crescent Oct 27, 2020, 7:36 AM

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probably has multiple currency rooms in it

opal sparrow Oct 27, 2020, 7:37 AM

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max stack for the currency display for chaos orbs is 10. so it's not really worth it. i has to contain exalted orbs otherwise people wouldn't sell the BP's for 1ex

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i just cherry pick any BP's that has lots of currency and harbgringer rooms

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i guess there's only one way to find out but to give it a shot XD

barren crescent Oct 27, 2020, 7:44 AM

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or whisper the dude and ask what makes the price

eager terrace Oct 27, 2020, 7:48 AM

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display cases can contain exalted orbs but not shards

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never seen more than 1 exalted in a display case

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though for what it's worth I've seen less exalted orbs than regal->exalt trinkets

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so not very common

meager jay Oct 27, 2020, 2:31 PM

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what are the best rooms to reveal?

eager terrace Oct 27, 2020, 2:32 PM

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imo... currency, harbinger, breach

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div cards

sterile fulcrum Oct 27, 2020, 5:28 PM

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don’t reveal div cards tf lol

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They’re 99% of all deceptions

pale salmon Oct 27, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Noob question time but what's the 2 best grand heists to run for currency or trinkets? Just read up a bit and underbelly and smugglers?

vapid canopy Oct 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

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anyway to know how's my progress regarding quest contracts?

devout osprey Oct 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

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press "H" there is a challenge for them

vapid canopy Oct 27, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Not all

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Only for the rogue ones, not the others NPCs

kind rock Oct 28, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Anyone else having a hell of a time getting the NPC missions to drop.

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I feel like once you get to maps they barely drop. 90% of the ones I found were in the acts.

still mural Oct 28, 2020, 7:34 AM

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smugglers caches show up less often in maps than in acts, and quest contracts only drop from smuggler's caches (one in ten in maps)

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but they each have a minimum ilvl to drop, so you can't just farm them all in acts

kind rock Oct 28, 2020, 7:55 AM

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I knew they came from caches, I find it sort of dumb that their is a league mechanic that doesn’t show up in every map.

cobalt falcon Oct 28, 2020, 9:25 AM

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Same thing in the past, like blight reward node not every blight have it , i guess it will be after going core

void wing Oct 28, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Atleast it isn't 83 area level only drop 😔

marble geyser Oct 28, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Hello, can you help me understanding how farm heist better.
Im now have Karst, Venderi, Gianna leveled, all have trinket 10%+ currency, all have +1 all jobs tool, cloak for - alarm
Im also have 2% ex converting trinket

Question:

that blueprints to buy\make for good profit?
how sustain markers
that next to do with rogues\equip?

frigid holly Oct 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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ANyone know if the experimental base types have uniform drop probabilities? I've been trying to find a Stabilizing Sceptre, but so far no luck - had the ring bases and rod bases I dont know how many times, but never either of the experimental sceptres yet...

torpid pewter Oct 28, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Any updates on fixing divergent faster projectile support? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2937947/page/1#p23581932 the return aspect does not work at all

Path of Exile

Bug Reports - Anomalous Faster Projectiles Support NOT RETURNING - ...

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

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Ugh, attacks, not spells 😦

torpid pewter Oct 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Did a little test Works with lightning strike, ethereal knives, kinetic blast and bolt, power siphon, molten strike, shattering and splitting steel, lancing steel, creeping frost, essence drain. Didn't try the claw ones or spectral shield, since I think it would work. So it looks like attack types tend to work, spell types do not. I am sure all the bow ones would work.

torpid pewter Oct 28, 2020, 9:33 PM

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It does work with spark, although it is hard to tell: just look for sparks shooting straight

pale salmon Oct 29, 2020, 1:20 AM

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right, so the final part of the grand heist challenge, finish a grand heist with at least 6 different rogues recruited

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is this bugged? Ive done it 3 times in a row, first time with 6, then with 8 then with 7

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all 3 times have failed to earn me the part of the challenge

still mural Oct 29, 2020, 1:22 AM

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you have to have a grand heist with at least two wings, with a total of six or more rogues assigned across them (so two wings each with three different rogues, for example), and you have to get an item from the target room and successfully escape for each wing

pale salmon Oct 29, 2020, 1:22 AM

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ive covered those requirements over all 3 attempts

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first 2 had 4 wings maxed out, 3rd had 3 wings

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gathered an item from the final cabinet in each wing of every grand heist and escaped from every wing safely

still mural Oct 29, 2020, 1:23 AM

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and it's six different rogues, right, not counting the same ones assigned again to multiple wings?

pale salmon Oct 29, 2020, 1:24 AM

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correct, my last grand heist that had the 7 i even took a screen shot to make sure

still mural Oct 29, 2020, 1:24 AM

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idk, then. post a bug report in the forums?

violet nymph Oct 29, 2020, 2:35 AM

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lol you can imbue contracts with orbs....

torpid pewter Oct 29, 2020, 4:05 AM

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everyone dc'd?

terse sinew Oct 29, 2020, 4:15 AM

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@violet nymph do you mean tempering? Lmao

marble geyser Oct 29, 2020, 6:36 AM

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hello, can you recommend me profitable way to farm in heist not running fractured blue prints? im only have 2% trinkets, so looks like fractured blue prints is not so profitable for me. Doubt is better farm in heist or just go for simulacrums

slender temple Oct 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Run lockpick heists

lost peak Oct 29, 2020, 1:38 PM

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if i'm fracturing blueprints, what other fossils do i want? i'm carrion golem build, so phy reflect and no regen are no-gos

cinder pond Oct 29, 2020, 4:08 PM

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hi guys, question here: does the quantity roll on contract affects the reward quantity from chests?

marble geyser Oct 29, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Is contract running profitable compare to others way for farming? Im just dont have good trinket for blueprints and overall understanding how make more from heist

void wing Oct 29, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Contracts have basically no input cost so it depends on what you mean by profitable.

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Lock picking drops a fair bit of liquid currency.

viral saddle Oct 29, 2020, 8:29 PM

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If ya ain't a streamer working the game full time, ya ain't gonna make a lot of money off heist. Half joke. I had 3 ex drop off a single grand, but just luck. Have to play a lot to get the RNG to drop you the goods eventually

eager charm Oct 29, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Not really, heist spits out currency

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Especially if you did them early in the league

crude scarab Oct 29, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Is there an up to date guide on reward types by contract?

eager terrace Oct 29, 2020, 10:18 PM

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the last one in #guides-archive is still accurate

crude scarab Oct 29, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Missed that channel entirely - checked pins here 😦

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thank you

still mural Oct 30, 2020, 12:26 AM

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do note that engineering also has generic/? chests

solar grove Oct 30, 2020, 12:38 AM

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if I use the same rogue twice in a wing do I get their bonuses twice?

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in grand heists

devout osprey Oct 30, 2020, 12:38 AM

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no

solar grove Oct 30, 2020, 12:38 AM

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so no benefit then over using a different rogue?

still mural Oct 30, 2020, 12:39 AM

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correct

solar grove Oct 30, 2020, 12:39 AM

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ok, ty

copper kernel Oct 30, 2020, 12:40 AM

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technically you pay less fee?

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i think

still mural Oct 30, 2020, 12:41 AM

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oh yeah, you do save on the hiring fee

dense drift Oct 30, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Does anyone know if the heist weapon enchants affect implicit modifiers?

modest yoke Oct 30, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I like we got +1month of gameplay 😛

vocal sun Oct 30, 2020, 4:41 PM

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any tips for new hiest starters ?

dense drift Oct 30, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@vocal sun there's lots of weird stuff, but one easy tip is you can run back and forth 3 times after completing tunnels/repository contracts for tons of XP. Easiest/cheapest way to power level

vocal sun Oct 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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mobs spawn infinate you mean ?

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@dense drift

zinc wadi Oct 30, 2020, 5:44 PM

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what is the 2nd best trinket after the exalt one for farming lockpick heists?

still mural Oct 30, 2020, 7:32 PM

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mobs infinitely spawn, yeah, but there is an item drop & xp cap that you hit eventually. hence the "run out three times & then exit" strat. @vocal sun

vocal sun Oct 30, 2020, 7:33 PM

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ok gotcha sor

still mural Oct 30, 2020, 7:38 PM

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tips I'll add:

get a trinket ASAP so you can get benefit from it when you run contract heists. doesn't need to be an amazing one, just something that upgrades currency a bit, like chromes to fusings or sommat.
learn the way the map looks where perception totems are; it's very noticeable once you learn it. being able to plan for that helps a lot, instead of getting surprised by it

stiff nexus Oct 30, 2020, 9:12 PM

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For the big slam type attacks in heist, what type of damage are they. Cueing on visuals the slow lightning ball of death, the overhead swing, but what is the lab robot laser that is charged?

still mural Oct 30, 2020, 9:15 PM

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best bet is to look up the mob on poedb

ember valley Oct 30, 2020, 11:58 PM

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what does character level do for rogues?

slow pond Oct 31, 2020, 12:01 AM

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nothing

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(increase their damage)

ember valley Oct 31, 2020, 12:02 AM

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gotcha, ty

dense drift Oct 31, 2020, 7:06 AM

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I want to farm synthesised bases in heists, does anyone know if the "additional weapons" mod on trinkets can possibly drop those, or are they only going to come from weapon chests?

inner notch Oct 31, 2020, 9:27 AM

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hey guys, how do i unlock rogue with deception trait?

dense drift Oct 31, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@ Hailgoats you need to make sure to run contracts with all your rogues in their different roles. I don't remember the specific one that unlocks, but that's how you get the rest

inner notch Oct 31, 2020, 9:39 AM

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thanks

sand herald Oct 31, 2020, 10:40 AM

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Hey, is there a way to target farm grand heists?

barren crescent Oct 31, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Like specific reward? Those go by the 9 different bases

sand herald Oct 31, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Yeah

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For some reason I have almost none of the two bases that give alternate gems

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And tons of the trinket ones

barren crescent Oct 31, 2020, 11:20 AM

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afaik no, completely random 1/9 chance

sand herald Oct 31, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Damn :(

surreal helm Oct 31, 2020, 3:57 PM

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How do you get the 40% quality gem challenge?

devout osprey Oct 31, 2020, 3:58 PM

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you can use replica voideye

surreal helm Oct 31, 2020, 3:59 PM

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huh

devout osprey Oct 31, 2020, 3:59 PM

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the voideeye ring, replica version

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put gem in it with minimum 10% quality

brittle hatch Oct 31, 2020, 4:23 PM

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For the items you equip on your rogues that say "XX% increased spell damage" Does that apply to you or to the rogue?

strong grail Oct 31, 2020, 5:59 PM

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@surreal helm You can use https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Enhance_Support

Path of Exile Wiki

Enhance Support

Enhance SupportSupportIcon: +Mana Multiplier: 115%Supports any skill gem. Once this gem reaches level 2 or above, will raise the quality of supported gems. Cannot support skills that don't come from gems.Per 1% Quality:12This Gem gains 5% increased Experience3% reduced Dexteri...

surreal helm Oct 31, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Already did it with the repl voideye

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but thanks

winged meteor Oct 31, 2020, 7:26 PM

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how do you get heist npc equips over tier 2? i am doing lvl 68 maps now, and the npc equips has not changed since i was lvl 20. im still getting torn cloak. is there something i should be doing? i can't seem to google any means of getting the item, aside from buying it from other players

next epoch Oct 31, 2020, 9:34 PM

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@indigo wolf That got fixed pretty early on. The high-tier/low-level rogue gear was basically useless because almost nobody had rogues that could equip any of it, at that point in the league

orchid nacelle Oct 31, 2020, 11:09 PM

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what happens if you fill the alert meter prior to opening the curio

eager terrace Oct 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

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it'll go into pre-lockdown with a short timer

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if you don't get the curio in that timer it seals up

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also any chests you try to open in that state remove 3 seconds from the timer

still mural Oct 31, 2020, 11:29 PM

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As you get higher level contracts, you'll start seeing higher tier bases. @winged meteor @indigo wolf

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it's mostly t2 stuff until you get into maps, though, yeah

dense drift Nov 1, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Is there any way to influence the rolls of a Tempering Orb?

still mural Nov 1, 2020, 1:25 AM

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not that I know of

deep yacht Nov 1, 2020, 1:29 AM

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i have not done a heist yet

winged meteor Nov 1, 2020, 1:30 AM

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ahh ic, thanks!

deep yacht Nov 1, 2020, 1:31 AM

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i am only lvl 22 is that bad

still mural Nov 1, 2020, 1:41 AM

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no, you go for heists whenever you feel like it.

deep yacht Nov 1, 2020, 1:42 AM

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ok thank very muck

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what if i feel like it NOW

still mural Nov 1, 2020, 2:06 AM

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then go heist, lol

cinder wyvern Nov 1, 2020, 7:11 AM

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bro , heist brooch > drop duplicate division is = dup steak deck ?

old iron Nov 1, 2020, 7:36 AM

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what effects the job experience gain of rouges most ? the contract level or required job level r how juicy the contract ??

winged meteor Nov 1, 2020, 7:45 AM

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how do i get contracts > lvl 70?

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i feel like my contracts have been stuck at lvl 67 for quite awhile

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altho my character lvl is 76

cunning blade Nov 1, 2020, 7:46 AM

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play maps with lv70+

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vanity

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u aren't gonna be able to buy contracts higher than 67 from whakano

olive phoenix Nov 1, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Can anyone give the the latest rewards sheet for heists? I didn't play in a while and unsubscribed from reddit to know about the recent one.

icy forge Nov 1, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Which reward rooms in grand heist are worth unlocking?

zinc wadi Nov 1, 2020, 9:13 PM

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i have now done 3x gradn heists with 16 currency rooms. i have a 2% regal to exa trinket, and the crew have the reccomended t2 more time, less alert level etc. and ive lost somewhere around 4 exa from them. used fractured fossils. what am i doing wrong? i focus on opening all currency chests and everything else i can before lockdown

cunning blade Nov 1, 2020, 10:58 PM

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by doing something literally everyone else is doing with the lowest rarity trinket and expecting to make a profit is what you're doing wrong

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fracture fossil prices are probably high enough to match 3% trinket profit margins probably at this point in league

still mural Nov 1, 2020, 11:54 PM

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@olive phoenix there's the one in #guides-archive if that's what you mean? (just note that engineering also has generic/? chests)

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@icy forge in trade league? currency for sure, maybe fragments, breach, delirium, harbinger.

olive phoenix Nov 1, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Oh! Thanks a lot. I wasn't sure how this discord works, so I didn't realize it was there, but that's what I am looking for.

lean mulch Nov 2, 2020, 5:44 AM

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What kind of damage type does the Heist Tunnels/Repository "big circular blast" do?

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It's a slow moving blast that does a butt ton of damage

still mural Nov 2, 2020, 6:14 AM

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best bet is to look up the mob that uses it on poedb

prime rapids Nov 2, 2020, 8:40 AM

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I hate how it takes like 15 contracts to unlock 1 wing

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And then I lose 3 wings to game crash BerserkSkill

uneven crater Nov 2, 2020, 8:00 PM

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is the heist league good? or standard?

autumn snow Nov 2, 2020, 8:15 PM

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anything is better than standard

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Anyone know how to get ilvl 86 items in heist? Can they naturally drop this level or is there a way to up the level of drops?

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 8:51 PM

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is this where people are getting the obsidian stones ilvl 86? only from final showcases?

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guessing no way to use like a watch stone type deal here?

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its a thing

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its a big big deal right now

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just not sure how to get them to drop at ilvl 86

dim moat Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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So ilvl 86 stones going for a lot now?

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 9:13 PM

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yea that's what it is, still trying to understand what makes them do no threat

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 9:29 PM

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its a real thing

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maybe?

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lol

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 9:29 PM

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it’s a meme

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there is a photoshopped alert bar overlaid where the alert bar is

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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hmm he did skip some chests

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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like they literally discussed this meme on stream

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before doing it

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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im watching it now trying to see

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I watched some of it live

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not sure if it's legit BS, or if people are trying to hide it's real so they can make bank

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 9:32 PM

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there’s literally clips of him forgetting to turn off the image when lockdown starts

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this is just the new version of vaults of atziri

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 9:34 PM

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so if I do drop i86 stone sell it for the lolz

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I don't even think rogue gear can drop at 86

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probably why he doesn't mind going hard on this meme

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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With the stones, or other items like that, there are mods to increased damage, is that only for the heist members or do these apply to you as well?

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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if it just says "increased damage" it's for the rogue only

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it'll say "players and minions gain X" if it applies to you

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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ah cool

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assuming same for the aura grants?

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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well auras are just auras

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if you're close enough to them it'll affect you

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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is that what people roll these for?

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 11:52 PM

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depends on what you're doing really

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I mostly rolled mine for flat damage to spells and mana regen

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 11:52 PM

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I don't need help from the helpers really

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just need them to open thing 🙂

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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job speed would be okay if it worked right

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maybe in upcoming patch

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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broach - duplicate money, cloaks reduced threat, specific gear chance for no alert

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but the last item been dwelling on what to do

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speed may be the best thing here

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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cloaks can also roll generic chance for no alert

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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oh really?

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hmm gonna have to check that out

eager terrace Nov 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I'd still prioritize global reduced alert but it is best second mod

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weapon is more build specific imo

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like I was running a lot of fractured BPs so I mostly wanted flat dmg for myself and mana regen to counter "less mana per 25% alert" without needing other adjustments

hasty forum Nov 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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ah ok

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i have a few like that

late ember Nov 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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is there a benefit gearing heist members to get one of their abilities past lvl 5?

eager terrace Nov 3, 2020, 12:12 AM

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yeah the strength of their perk is tied to the level of their primary job

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so like karst for example goes from 40% -> 45% reduced alert of reward chests if he has level 6 lockpick

still mural Nov 3, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Yeah, most of them get a solid benefit from boosting their primary job past 5

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Tibbs being the main exception

late ember Nov 3, 2020, 12:39 AM

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ah, got it thanks

hasty forum Nov 3, 2020, 1:13 AM

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but tibbs has that double bubble

still mural Nov 3, 2020, 1:13 AM

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He can open 2 chests at level 5, yeah. He doesn't get any benefit from going from 5 to 6, though

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re: which mods to prioritize, I've been aiming for
combat items: %lockdown time prefix, some useful aura suffix (ilvl 81 ideal)
job tools: +job level or all job lvl prefix, ideally %job chest no alert suffix but the prefix is rare enough that it's hard to be picky with the suffix (ilvl 83+ ideal)
cloaks: %lockdown time prefix, -chest alert or %chest no alert suffix (ilvl 82+)
brooches: +quant prefix, dupe currency suffix (ilvl 84 for highest quant tier, otherwise 81+)

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and of course everything can roll marker discount suffixes, which are nice if you regal into them

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and for Gianna's brooch +target marker value prefix since I only use her in contract heists

hasty forum Nov 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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good call with gianna

prime rapids Nov 3, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Bruh its going to take 18k marks to reveal the last wing of this heist. Thats going to take so long to get. I like the loot of this league but I'd like to run other stuff too not just trying spending all day on contracts

still mural Nov 3, 2020, 3:37 AM

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you can focus on contracts with high value/precious/priceless targets, fwiw

prime rapids Nov 3, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Even the top end only gives 2-3k. I'd have to run 10 of those if not more to reveal last wing and have enough to pay the cost of starting it

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And thats if I don't die to lag

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I swear if I lag out or crash during this grand heist I'm not doing any more heist content.

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All that grind for the best reward to be 6 chaos and then have the game crash. Or die to lag since they decide to spawn too many enemies in a small area knowing that causes performance issues.

celest ember Nov 3, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Can someone explain to me what a facture service is? I see people offering services like this but not sure how it works and what you get out of it

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also what is a Split service?

lime siren Nov 3, 2020, 3:25 PM

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which operatives do spell dmg to give them spell dmg equipment?

clear harness Nov 3, 2020, 4:10 PM

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does anyone face the bug in Death to Darnaw unique heist?

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i cant fking open the 1st door lmao no matter i tried

oak gust Nov 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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is the 2% regal to exalt worth 4 exalted rn for someone looking to do more heists?

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will it pay itself rather quickly or ill stay with the regal to divine orb(which seem to be not half bad i think)

shut ore Nov 3, 2020, 9:20 PM

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mods on blueprints dont affect chest drops right?

spice cipher Nov 3, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Nope

exotic grove Nov 3, 2020, 11:09 PM

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is there an updated loot table for heist?

torpid pewter Nov 3, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Any thoughts on fixing the non-working alt gems?

eager charm Nov 4, 2020, 12:25 AM

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@lime siren they dont, they use a spell that prepares the weapons they throw

still mural Nov 4, 2020, 12:28 AM

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@exotic grove #guides-archive has it; only thing to note is that engineering contracts can also have generic/? chests

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@lime siren if you're talking about the rogues, Gianna, Niles, and Isla do spell damage; Nenet & Karst use phys projectiles; the rest use melee

lime siren Nov 4, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Ty

still mural Nov 4, 2020, 6:31 AM

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some scienced info: the "2 items with same name = 1 chance orb" recipe overrides the 5:1 recipe. so be careful when 5:1ing vinderi duped cluster jewels.

winged meteor Nov 4, 2020, 8:31 AM

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can i buy contracts any higher than lvl 67? or do i have to grind them from maps?

still mural Nov 4, 2020, 9:06 AM

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can't buy them from whakano, but you can buy from other players if you're in trade

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or yeah, get them from maps or other content

winged meteor Nov 4, 2020, 9:06 AM

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ahh ic thanks

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cz im kinda stuck tryna get reveals for my blueprints rn

stone prairie Nov 4, 2020, 1:46 PM

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for the grind to 100 using contracts, how do you juice them ? Any mod significantly improving the exp / danger ?

cunning blade Nov 4, 2020, 1:57 PM

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-max res per alert is something to avoid

past whale Nov 4, 2020, 4:21 PM

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anyone knows how ee and ignite interact? does ignite affect ee?

tender tusk Nov 4, 2020, 4:21 PM

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ee requires a hit

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so if you use stormfire and don't hit with any fire damage, your ignite will benefit

past whale Nov 4, 2020, 4:22 PM

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i see thanks. sounds complicated guess it wont rly work for rf

tender tusk Nov 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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EE itself works super well for RF

past whale Nov 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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yeahs but i got a mod on my med cluster jewel that spreads ignite. thought of making use of it but meh

tender tusk Nov 4, 2020, 4:24 PM

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yeah, if you're inflicting ignite with a fire hit, the enemy you hit will be +25 fire

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but the enemys it prolifs to won't be

past whale Nov 4, 2020, 4:24 PM

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wait

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really?

tender tusk Nov 4, 2020, 4:24 PM

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ignite isn't a hit

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it's mainly why stormfire is a preferred ignite setup rn

past whale Nov 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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wait nvm it has an extremely small radius of 15

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dont wanna lose my verm for it

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this is the jewel

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still mural Nov 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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belated, but @stone prairie +reward room monsters is especially good. -max resists is bad (but plain -resists is not so bad if you're overcapped). phys as extra element can be rough. if you care much about the loot along the way, alert increases every 10s and lockdown is instant are bad. also watch for mods that mess with your build's defenses: I avoid chance to dodge is unlucky, for example, but I'm quite happy to run -chance to block since I don't use block.

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deception, agility, and I think lockpicking? don't have doors on the way out, so they're a fair bit faster than the others.

hasty forum Nov 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Hey can someone tell me what "Chance to find addtional heist targets from secret reward rooms" does?

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is that like only in blueprints?

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are these the rooms you reveal?

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ahhhhhhhh

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ok thank you!

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just tested and can confirm

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secret rooms are any rooms you have to open up

still mural Nov 4, 2020, 6:40 PM

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yeah, idk why they added the word "secret" there; it's just the big reward chests

hasty forum Nov 4, 2020, 6:41 PM

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secret sounds cooler than "big"

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lol

frosty birch Nov 4, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Is the alert lvl controlling the amount of mobs on lockdown?

still mural Nov 4, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Yes; higher alert level before getting the target item = more mobs during the escape

violet nymph Nov 4, 2020, 11:16 PM

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so thats why i get clapped each time

torpid pewter Nov 4, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Nah, you mean, that is why you get decent exp gains

violet nymph Nov 4, 2020, 11:26 PM

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oh yeah i cant farm em since im always stuck near the safe cause they just never stop coming

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can*

twin sequoia Nov 4, 2020, 11:58 PM

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hey guys

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I keep taking heavy damage or dying in heists

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and it always comes after this "poof" sound

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what the hell is it

cunning blade Nov 5, 2020, 12:25 AM

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poof sound isn't uh

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very telling of whats hitting u

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vanity

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only dangerous things ik in heist all basically come from the robots

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lasers, on deaths, death balls

willow marten Nov 5, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Phasing flasks with minions making contracts so chill

runic thistle Nov 5, 2020, 1:08 PM

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what does "+# character level" means on a rogue item?

prime rapids Nov 5, 2020, 1:11 PM

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I love how 15k marks on xbox costs 1ex but its unlikely to earn profit off of that investment

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I need 18k stupid marks to reveal last wing of this grand heist full knowing its hardly worth the effort.

runic thistle Nov 5, 2020, 1:14 PM

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thanks

prime rapids Nov 5, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Is there a vendor recipe for contract so I don't have to keep wasting my time just to get 500 marks from almost every contract I do?

wooden cloud Nov 5, 2020, 3:05 PM

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does anyone have a list of optimized heist gear for each rogue?

wooden cloud Nov 5, 2020, 3:23 PM

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been looking at this, but does job speed really not matter?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/j6klz5/simple_rogue_gearing_cheatsheet_for_maximum_heist/

r/pathofexile - Simple Rogue Gearing Cheat-sheet for Maximum Heist ...

641 votes and 165 comments so far on Reddit

wooden cloud Nov 5, 2020, 4:30 PM

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and also what is the priority for gearing

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actually i;d guess with enough +1 to job level not all rogues need to be geared

south plover Nov 5, 2020, 8:56 PM

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if doing a grand heist that has 3 wings, and you come out of a wing and there's only a portal back to the harbour, do you lose the other 2 wings if you go back to the harbour?

silver kettle Nov 5, 2020, 8:56 PM

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no

south plover Nov 5, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Thank you ❤️

oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 9:05 PM

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+1 to job level doesn't let you break caps.

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So you still need each of the non-Huck rogues maxed in their specialty to run all level 5 requirement contracts, etc.

warm tendon Nov 5, 2020, 9:09 PM

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does job speed effect the animation of the rogues opening doors or only the bar?

oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 9:10 PM

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It is supposed to only affect the animation. But that's had lots of bugs; dunno if it's fixed for all job types yet.

warm tendon Nov 5, 2020, 9:10 PM

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i see ty

still mural Nov 5, 2020, 11:47 PM

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+1 job level does let you exceed the normal caps @oblique tundra

oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 11:48 PM

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It definitely didn't early in the league when I tested.

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Maybe they changed it

still mural Nov 5, 2020, 11:48 PM

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+1 job level, not +1 character level

oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 11:48 PM

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I'm aware

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Cool that that works now, thanks!

still mural Nov 5, 2020, 11:49 PM

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+1 to their primary job also scales their perk, for most rogues (not Tibbs or Niles)

oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Does scaling to 6 like that also improve it past 5?

still mural Nov 5, 2020, 11:50 PM

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so my Gianna gives a 45% discount (on the reveal screen, for some reason not shown right on that screenshot)

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yeah

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oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Very cool

still mural Nov 5, 2020, 11:50 PM

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so it's very useful for Gianna for a bigger discount (and +1 all jobs lets you take her on a few more contracts, too), Karst for more -alert, etc.

oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Sure. Vinderi should be really good too

still mural Nov 5, 2020, 11:51 PM

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+1 all jobs is ilvl 82+ job gear, +1 specific job is 83; very low weights & both prefixes so it's quite difficult to get both on the same piece of gear, but if you do, it's awesome

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yep

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just have to counteract the +alert, but that's manageable

velvet palm Nov 5, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@oblique tundra it's not that they changed it, it's just that it literally did nothing early into the league, like most shit

oblique tundra Nov 5, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Ah, I see

wooden cloud Nov 6, 2020, 12:38 AM

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hmm, so i just assume no one has a problem with the reddit post I posted

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wrt to tools

devout osprey Nov 6, 2020, 12:38 AM

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they said in patchnotes that they fixed job speeds

still mural Nov 6, 2020, 12:45 AM

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yeah, job speed is not all that important, since by the time you're looking at minmaxing gear you have their job levels maxed for the inherent speed that gives, and +jobspd only affects the filling of the bar afaik which is only a small portion of the actual time it takes to do the thing

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so while they fixed the weird bug that was happening, it's still not that important

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wrt the reddit post, I would say don't overlook useful auras on the weapon suffix, and definitely get +all jobs on as many rogues as you can on the job tools

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if you can get that on Niles, he gets deception 5 and you don't need to take Gianna on any blueprints anymore (where her perk is useless), so you can go for something like +target marker value on her brooch (since you'll run more contracts with her than any other single rogue, probably)

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probably worth doing even without +deception on niles, since there still won't be that many blueprints which require deception 5

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while leveling your rogues, +job xp is also a very useful prefix on all gear, ofc

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so my list looks more like:
Combat: %lockdown time prefix, useful aura/discount suffix; ilvl 81 is best
Brooch: +quant>%lockdown time prefix, currency dupe > other dupe/discount suffix; ilvl 84+ is best, otherwise 81; avoid 82 & 83
Cloak: %lockdown time prefix, -chest alert/%chest no alert suffix; ilvl 82 is best
Tool: +all job level > +specific job level > +flat lockdown time > %lockdown time prefix, %job chest no alert > discount suffix; ilvl 82+ is best, 83+ for chance at both +job level prefixes

prime rapids Nov 6, 2020, 1:32 AM

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For as much as I like the rewards and new items introduced in this league I hate the content.
Going through the content there isn't much of a challenge and you have multiple attempts but on the way out it spawns so many enemies in such a small space it affects performance and having to wait for doors to open and fighting against game bugs just to die and lose everything really sucks.
Unique contracts are very rare and I have yet to get anything worth while from them . And grand heists take so long to fully reveal that I get 10 if not more of them while trying to unlock 1. I can imagine its faster for someone who plays 12h a day who only grinds heists but the gh I'm currently trying to do I need 18k marks for the last wing and considering I only get 500-1.5k marks per contract its going to take between 10 and 30 contracts just to reveal it. And I'll be lucky to even get that investment back. As far as I can tell contracts and blueprints are worth more to sell then run myself and defeats the entire point of playing the league.

sharp iron Nov 6, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I'm kinda the opposite. I love how Heists are purely speed anymore, and you can be a little bit more calculated with them. I think the Doom system with curses worked very well with this league since you can curse an enemy, wait for the curse to get stronger, and then initiate the fight. But when it comes to loot, I don't like how Prophecies are now essentially all about getting them in their sealed forms and you basically don't use Navali to roll a new prophecy anymore. It also makes you realize just how bad unique rewards are compared to currency.

coral garden Nov 6, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Wut?@prime rapids u make it sound like doing normal heists is an investment

prime rapids Nov 6, 2020, 2:53 AM

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@coral garden
On xbox 15k marks is 1ex. For a 4 wing heist that could take 2-4 ex worth of marks and I have yet to get anything close to that from contracts or grand heists.
Its more profitable to sell contracts and marks and blueprints then to run them. And I don't exactly like to run them either. I hate having to fight 100 respawnable enemies in tiny cramped spaces

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@sharp iron
I hate how marks only apply to 1 enemie and can't be ran as auras because I have 4 max power charges but the only way to generate them is through assasins mark and since they changed it even that isn't reliable so I end up usually only having 1 or 2 at a time.

still mural Nov 6, 2020, 2:56 AM

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unfortunately, console economies are always weird

coral garden Nov 6, 2020, 2:56 AM

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If its an investment theres no way ssf peeps could have played it

sharp iron Nov 6, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of the mark change either.

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There are already ways in the same you can prepare yourself to fight a singular strong enemy. And I feel marks got ruined because of that change.

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In particular, the Gluttony unique belt got gutted. But now they're also not a reliable form of charge gain either.

prime rapids Nov 6, 2020, 3:01 AM

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@coral garden
What i meant was that if I invest 1ex worth of marks into a grand heist that will end up only giving me like 20c in loot its not worth it. The best I have gotten from contracts and blueprints so far is 1ex drop and a replica loreweave that someone bought for 1ex even though I had it listed as 40c. Other then that alot of the stuff I get just sits and doesn't sell or is vendor food.

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And I don't have 20+ ex to invest in a 4% chance exalt trinket

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I don't think I have even sold a single alt gem I gotten. And that was probably a month ago.

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And the best reward i have gotten from a wing in a currency grand heist is a whole 6 chaos. 90% of the time the podium reward is worth less then the rest of the loot.

coral garden Nov 6, 2020, 3:18 AM

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U aren't meant to spam grand heist because they are more lucrative

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Everyone is spamming it until the point its not profitable anymore (by buying markers) and they are forced to run normal heists

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Market forces at work here

prime rapids Nov 6, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Even if 15k markers were 30c instead of 1ex i would probably still profit more by selling them then using them.

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Its just easier overall and more consistent to just run maps and sell heist drops.
Unique contracts are usually 1ex each even though the drops from them are trash. And I can farm 1ex worth of contracts/marks faster then I can make 1ex by running them.

coral garden Nov 6, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Unique contract value is tied to challenge

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People dont do it for profit

dense drift Nov 6, 2020, 5:36 AM

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How do tailoring orbs actually drop? I've never seen one in the wild

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Are they a rare reward in blue prints or just a currency drop?

next epoch Nov 6, 2020, 5:41 AM

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It's a heist (blueprint) reward found alongside enchanted equipment, iirc

dense drift Nov 6, 2020, 7:12 AM

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So, i opened a currency chest, but my exalted orb wasn't doubled, while everything else was. I'm trying to figure out if it's vinderi that doubles before the regal-exalt is rolled, or the heist amulets

quartz wraith Nov 6, 2020, 7:39 AM

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heist bosses are "1 chance" only right? as in, you can't go back into the map if you die?

still mural Nov 6, 2020, 7:50 AM

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at least some of them you can re-enter if you die during the boss

marsh wyvern Nov 6, 2020, 7:54 AM

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@quartz wraith you can go back in as much as you like. be aware you have to run through the entire thing again

quartz wraith Nov 6, 2020, 8:00 AM

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just to be double clear, even if the boss kills you right?

still mural Nov 6, 2020, 8:08 AM

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yeah, the ones I've done

quartz wraith Nov 6, 2020, 8:12 AM

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cool, i can probably hit 31 challenges with the heist bosses

cobalt falcon Nov 6, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Yess, we can die many times now

prime rapids Nov 6, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Unique contract value is tied to challenge
People dont do it for profit
@coral garden
Well thats a waste of content don't you think?

coral garden Nov 6, 2020, 1:11 PM

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yep

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thats because the boss dont drop good loot

rigid idol Nov 6, 2020, 2:06 PM

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It not waste of comtent if people do it for challenge

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For them that is the content vanity

velvet palm Nov 6, 2020, 4:06 PM

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heist is a waste in general

lime siren Nov 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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anyone got a heist room profitability ranking?

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like i feel unique rooms are worthless

molten eagle Nov 6, 2020, 7:17 PM

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My personal tier list, any comments? Partly taken from that reddit thread from today. Credits also to that infographic from the #guides-archive channel for the nice pictures 🙂

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lime siren Nov 6, 2020, 7:45 PM

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very nice thanks, what's the number in brackets?

sour fox Nov 6, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Minimum level before they can appear

velvet palm Nov 6, 2020, 8:01 PM

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bump breach down to like c

molten eagle Nov 6, 2020, 8:11 PM

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breach rooms are S tier according to that thread, maybe A

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https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/jowb2p/long_and_boring_here_is_how_i_shuffled_150000/

r/pathofexile - [Long and Boring] Here is how I shuffled 150,000 Bl...

274 votes and 121 comments so far on Reddit

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because you can find lots of breachstones in there imho

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a guildmate who has some photoshop skills made a nicer looking pic, ill upload it later

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still mural Nov 6, 2020, 8:46 PM

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why rank blight so high?

velvet palm Nov 6, 2020, 8:46 PM

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don't you like getting sepia oils?

still mural Nov 6, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I do, but I wouldn't expect folks more profit/efficiency focused to

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and even I would probably only rank it B

velvet palm Nov 6, 2020, 8:47 PM

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marauder

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what is wrong with you

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sepia oils are worth less than wisdom scrolls

still mural Nov 6, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I'm SSF 😛

velvet palm Nov 6, 2020, 9:08 PM

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okay?

still mural Nov 6, 2020, 9:14 PM

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so I value stuff differently; sepia oils have a use

velvet palm Nov 6, 2020, 9:32 PM

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they have borderline less use in ssf

violet nymph Nov 6, 2020, 11:47 PM

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i hate heists i just wanna get out but enemies spawn endlessly and once im in a room i already cleared and im slowly clearing next one they come back from behind and i die

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is there a limit to how many enemies spawn?

spice cipher Nov 6, 2020, 11:47 PM

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yes

violet nymph Nov 6, 2020, 11:48 PM

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do u know what it is?