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fast jetty Oct 6, 2020, 2:25 PM

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what is this mechanic called?

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eager terrace Oct 6, 2020, 2:26 PM

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flashbang

void wing Oct 6, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Toucan has evolved.

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 2:34 PM

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⬜

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 2:43 PM

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heist party play has been good from the start, I thought

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 2:50 PM

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It is

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Its Very good

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1 cost, 5x return

rigid idol Oct 6, 2020, 2:54 PM

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@rigid stream even on the chest

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I see tysm

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 2:56 PM

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The Grand heists No, from what i know, but the relic absolutely.

rigid idol Oct 6, 2020, 2:56 PM

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i see tysm so just zooming with the normal heist

soft ibex Oct 6, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Where do you get heist trinkets from?

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:09 PM

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trinket/currency grand heists

soft ibex Oct 6, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Final room or side chests?

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:09 PM

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final room

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see the top line?

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soft ibex Oct 6, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Ahhh. Final room is also alt quality gems I assume?

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Side rooms are just normal loot?

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:10 PM

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yes, but that'd be unusual gems as the target instead of trinkets/currency

soft ibex Oct 6, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Right, thanks

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:10 PM

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side rooms are normal reward chests, though it's always 2 per room instead of the usual 1 or 2 in contracts

soft ibex Oct 6, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Thanks

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 3:23 PM

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one heist at lvl 77, half a lvl

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the xp buff is just... i dont even

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I hear you like elemental damage

crisp tree Oct 6, 2020, 3:36 PM

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heist still crashing templarSad

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 3:53 PM

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(lore spoilers, dont click if you dont want to know what happens regarding the twins questline, you've been warned)

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dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Do the +level heist equipments not work? I have a level 3 with a +2 cloak, but I can't use them for a level 4 contract

devout osprey Oct 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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i think its jsut for faster jobs, i could be wrong

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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+level makes the guys in the zones be a higher level

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so if youre doing a 79 zone with a +2 they appear as 81

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Huh. Just found fossil chests in a brute force heist.

devout osprey Oct 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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that seems like a bad stat on equipment then

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Oh, I didn't get that at all

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:55 PM

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It is a bad mod, aye

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 3:56 PM

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it is

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 3:56 PM

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I thought it was the best mod lol

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:56 PM

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I believe the +job level mods also don't let you do higher requirement contracts; they just increase job spd and maybe boost the perk

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but they require ilvl 82/83 so I can't check it myself yet

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 3:57 PM

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yea some perks get better with levels right?

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so maybe its like gem levels

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 3:58 PM

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all perks scale with job level (though I'm also unsure if it's only primary/top job level or total of all job lvls on that rogue)

tawny prism Oct 6, 2020, 4:05 PM

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do grands feel infinitely more rippy than they were yesterday for anyone else?

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 4:08 PM

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not me shrugR

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:09 PM

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is this good?

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with the anoint its 34% reduced phys damage taken

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 4:10 PM

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seems solid to me

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:11 PM

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price checking and knowing what talismans are worth trying to sell is a nightmare though lol

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or like this

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the anoint plus implicit is 103% crit chance for spells

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 4:14 PM

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imagine if that had rolled t1 critmulti

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:14 PM

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right?

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like its not NUTS

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but its not bad

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 4:14 PM

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its great

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:14 PM

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but I have no idea what its worth

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 4:15 PM

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103 crit chance amulet with t1 life, double res and int is awesome

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:15 PM

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actually

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now that I think about it

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it may be better than my amulet for my build lol

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there is no way to filter anoints in the trade website is there?

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 4:21 PM

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xp in heists 📈

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:22 PM

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ya its kinda nuts

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I ran a bunch last night and didnt pay attention at all to XP. Woke up this morning and was like "why am I 75% of the way to next level?"

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huh, ya, put that talisman on and checked POB

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it was just a straight upgrade in every single way

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LOL

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welp

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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reddit be like: loot nerfed, can't open every chest. GG league dead

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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reddit says a lot of things

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I can still open every chest most of the time 😄

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:26 PM

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same lol

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I have like 20% chance to not trigger alert on most of my companions

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with alert reduction when I do

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 4:27 PM

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granted I've been running with tibbs; now I'll do some with karst and see if it's any different

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I'm still on all lockdown time gear; haven't done much rolling of gear post-patch

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I never invested in lockdown time gear

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I always prioritized reduction in alert gear

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so it didnt affect me much

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 4:29 PM

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You mean: oh how bad heist is now, now can you sell me those markers for 1c

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Now you do whatever. Make a good cloak with - alert and Chance to Not get alert on chests. And a brooch with Delirium Orbs and Blight maps

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A weapon with lvl 25 haste

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I hadnt considered haste on the weapon

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thats a fucking great idea

violet nymph Oct 6, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Which heist missions have talisman as a reward type? Is it only trap disarmament?

soft ibex Oct 6, 2020, 4:51 PM

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What's the max tier rogue gear? 3?

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@violet nymph https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/580536901673549835/758864825497157663

violet nymph Oct 6, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Thanks

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@rigid stream how do you get 25 lvl haste?

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did you mean 15?

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yes

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typo

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 4:55 PM

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pog, easy

celest ember Oct 6, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Is it just me or does heist seem slow and not as fun as just mapping?

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legit question there

crisp tree Oct 6, 2020, 5:02 PM

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doors vanity

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Depends, new contracts are shorter and have more rewards

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Only the 60-69 range is too long

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Doors, yeah, pretty much.

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Heist as an actual mechanic is less fun than maps or delve

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Originally it was supposed to encourage stealth

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Heist you have to bribe me with rewards to get me to play, Delve I'll play as long as it's not wasting my time to do so.

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:28 PM

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There's none of that now, so there's nothing unique about it

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:28 PM

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That proves more than anything how little GGG actually think about their game

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Stealth. In an aRPG.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Oh come on

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I mean,the idea of stealth on the way in, fight on the way out might have been cool.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Stealth is gone

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There is No stealth anynorr

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Could have encouraged different builds. It just didn't work at all

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:29 PM

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You can Just kill everything and thats it

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I know, that's why it's boring, I mean. It's just worse mapping

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:30 PM

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It didn't work at all. It was never going to work at all. That's the point.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Also, delve has waiting too

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I think it could have worked. You just have to scale rewards opposite to alert level

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So if you get to the target with no alert you get the most rewards

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Do some devourer nodes. Sitting there, waiting for a Minute Till they Pop up one by one

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:31 PM

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"Heist" isn't a flawed concept. Breaking into some place, grabbing shit, and breaking out. But the moment someone said 'stealth' they should have been booted out of the room.

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Maybe the breaking was the way to go. Some kind of interacting with the environment more than mobs

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Like you have to complete certain objectives or even damage types/amount to successfully break in

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:34 PM

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The problem with Heist is that it was a shit implementation of a shit interpretation of the concept of a heist to begin with, and we're just playing whackamole with GGG trying to make it engaging.

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I guess I should add the addendum, *for an aRPG.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Could you chill Out a bit

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Wait, didn't they already do this shit with Beastiary? Or am I misremembering?

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Yeah, I don't think it's a bad concept at all, the implementation just didn't work

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I am chill. I'm so chill I'm falling asleeo. Ty Heist.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:35 PM

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For a while week now you come Here, shitting on the League day after day complaining how much you Hate stealth when its been gone for two weeks

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Nah, bad concept. Going with the stealth angle was a bad idea from the start

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Its dead, let it go

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There is No stealth, end of discussion

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:36 PM

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And you've come in completely misinterpreting me again and again because you're in such a hurry to defend bad decisions.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I dont say anything about wether it was a good idea or Not

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:36 PM

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The fact that there was stealth in the first place is why we're in a bad position.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:36 PM

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No

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Yes. Just because you pull out weeds doesn't mean the garden magically springs to life.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:38 PM

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You are plain out wrong and havent been here for long enough. Every league was tweaked according to what worked Out and what not

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Beeing angry about Things that changed is useless

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:38 PM

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You are plain out not very good at English, or something like that.

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This should not be a difficult concept to grasp, so there must be a communication error.

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If a log falls on your car, and you pull the log off, the log isn't there anymore but you still have a car that was crushed by a log.

That is this league and stealth.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Mhmkay

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Bit thats Not how that works?

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Ye... yes. Yes it is.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Its Like painting your Car Red and then realising you wanted a black car

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That doesnt mean you suddenly have a broken car

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:41 PM

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You can't just flip around core game mechanics like that. It's not just a coat of paint.

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Heist was meant to have stealth. It's about stealth. From the start GGG built it for stealth (because no one pointed out stealth in aRPGs is a bad idea) and are still trying to recover from that error.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:42 PM

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You must let it go, stealth is a thing of the past

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Play the league and have fun. Or Not and Play something else

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Its as simple as that

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Stealth itself might be but the aftereffects of having it are still strongly affecting the league.

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Like what?

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Having a Limited amount of Chest?

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Thats all that is left

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Like the slowass door opening? The alert system? The janky ass contraband system?

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They made a league about burglary when it should have been about bank robbing.

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:45 PM

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It could be about both. Perception heists are the closest to a successful concept I think.

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:47 PM

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The totems are cancer though. They're invulnerable until you're in their range and can often be impossible to avoid.

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:47 PM

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I haven't run into impossible ones yet, I find avoiding them to be interesting after the fix so fae

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Pretty sure I've had them directly next to doorways that are the only possible way forward.

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Oh yeah for sure

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They have a pulse now though

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So you need to time it right

valid mist Oct 6, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Hm, maybe missed it since I'm a melee build then.

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Though speaking of GGG and never, ever, ever learning from past mistakes, weren't beasts originally killable in Beastiary?

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Like you had to try and get them below a certain threshold but keep them alive.

dense drift Oct 6, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I play melee too, I just leap slam out of the pulse, works well. It's tougher when there's 4 in one room, but kinda fun, not impossible

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 5:51 PM

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The Contraband system already existed before, people Just forgot

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Remember delve?

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If you die, you lose your loot

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Its gone

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And what about HC? If you die, you lose your loot and your char

lucid haven Oct 6, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Does rolling mods on the contract increase loot dorp from chest or only from mobs?

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 6:02 PM

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It reduces the alert gained and increases the lockdown Timer and gives a more packsize multi. So rolling Your Maps at least to some degree is usefull. I cannot say if quant works on all chests or not.

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:03 PM

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anyone knows if there's a possible way I can kill the guys behind the door blocking the mind-controlled NPC?

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rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Go away and come back

lunar pilot Oct 6, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Looks like a mind-controlled monster to me.

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I did leave and come back, doesn't work

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the mind-controlled guy is blocked by the other two

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and he can't reach the lever

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Your carrion Golem messed with them

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Can you desummon him and try again?

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:05 PM

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i don't have a carrion golem, only ice

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and it's not summoned, actually

lunar pilot Oct 6, 2020, 6:06 PM

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mind control should only be possible within line of sight, no? how did gianna get to the other side when she doesn't have agility? 🙂

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:06 PM

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it's Nenet using counter-thaumaturgy

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sometimes instead of unlocking the door themselves, CT rogues mind-control a guard on the other side to pull the lever

lunar pilot Oct 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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oh

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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it's pretty cool but id rather it not bug out and fail to unlock the door D:

lunar pilot Oct 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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rip your grand heist though

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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yep...

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at least it's just 1 wing

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but still thats like 4k coins down the drain

lunar pilot Oct 6, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I ran my first perception contract after the patch today, because I had to, because I don't want unremovable items in my inventory... and the alarm went off the first couple totems despite me trying to kill them off. Contract ofc failed.

Ran 2 more after that, didnt have the same issue. Bugs still roaming around here and there?

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Alert level rose from 20% to alarm in an instant.

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:10 PM

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speaking of perception, totems are now so much better to deal with

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you can zoom past them and they won't spot you

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I don't quite get how the totem vulnerability works

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sometimes you can offscreen them

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sometimes you need to be melee

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to kill them

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

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The rogue has to activate them

regal gazelle Oct 6, 2020, 6:14 PM

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posted the screenshot on reddit and got downvoted xd

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i love reddit

lunar pilot Oct 6, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@rigid stream Activate them?

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 6:26 PM

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If your rogue gets Close the then He will punt them and you can kill them

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Thats why it sometimes Takes a bit cause the rogue is doing something else

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 6:27 PM

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it's because they're "hidden" or sommat and so the perception specialist has to reveal them

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same thing with perception chests

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so it seems like -chest alert level and %no alert on chests are the best mods on rogue gear now, instead of lockdown time? lockdown time is still decent but not as important

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Yea

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You Take all big chests and then whatever small you can fit in

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Which makes much more sense compared to before

umbral musk Oct 6, 2020, 6:44 PM

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nice...ex drop, and dc on lockdown, best league ever

violet nymph Oct 6, 2020, 6:52 PM

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any tips for dummies on what trinkets to equip on the heist guys?

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 6:53 PM

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wait.... where is my anointment

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red wharf Oct 6, 2020, 6:55 PM

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seems talismans from regular boxes are unchanged

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 6:55 PM

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😦

red wharf Oct 6, 2020, 6:55 PM

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thank you for beta testing 🙂

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 6:55 PM

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shrugR

devout osprey Oct 6, 2020, 6:56 PM

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they know

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gggi that is

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 6:56 PM

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I mean heists are so much better now

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idm talisman bug or two

red wharf Oct 6, 2020, 6:56 PM

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is it? I'm hearing the overall feeling didn't change much

barren crescent Oct 6, 2020, 6:56 PM

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cough they are shit, sell me your markers

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Only the Talismans from talisman chests have annoints

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The ones from the Safes dont

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And the Talismans from talisman chests are actually good

rapid shell Oct 6, 2020, 7:09 PM

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What are some good replicas to look for?

still mural Oct 6, 2020, 7:19 PM

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man, just finished maxing out Huck's levels, and I'm reminded that he's my favorite of the rogues character-wise

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why does he have to be so shit mechanically 😭

minor oyster Oct 6, 2020, 7:46 PM

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thankfully Gldqqd has the necessary Lhyho 3 to do this heist

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 7:48 PM

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So do rogues in grand heists still Stack with Themselves?

minor oyster Oct 6, 2020, 7:55 PM

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afaik yeah

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:07 PM

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any info on the twins yet?

cedar wigeon Oct 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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What does level on rogue items do?

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When you have already level 5

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:08 PM

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makes em +x level in the zones

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i81 zone will have that member be 81+x

cedar wigeon Oct 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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so their perks are the same

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:10 PM

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yes

cedar wigeon Oct 6, 2020, 8:14 PM

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so its basicly useless

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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yup

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just like spamming LF in 820

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 8:19 PM

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anyone notice the trade website doesnt seem to find added skills (haste for example) on heist gear but they show on listed items?

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:24 PM

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use poeapp for that

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it has more mods than the official

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Cant you use ~ haste?

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:36 PM

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i know for a fact that a lot of mods simply don't exist in the stat filter thingy on the official

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 8:39 PM

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@rigid stream I can find the mod in the options

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the site just doesnt recognize them on the items

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:40 PM

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just use poeapp.com

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theyre there

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 8:41 PM

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also I guess the skills all use the same tag? So you cant roll 2 skills on one item?

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:42 PM

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yeah

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 8:44 PM

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skills dont stack in grand heist though right? Like 2 hastes?

twin fjord Oct 6, 2020, 8:47 PM

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can I go back to rogue harbor after a wing drop off gear, and return in a grand heist?

verbal crest Oct 6, 2020, 8:48 PM

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most people can yes

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though I have heard some people are still ahving issues

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but its worked for me every time since they made the instance private

twin fjord Oct 6, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Just worked for me there. Thanks!

hot quail Oct 6, 2020, 8:49 PM

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same, i did one grand heist earlier today and i could go back to harbor/stash between wings

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:50 PM

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the aura effect radius is kinda ass

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so dont rely on it

last raven Oct 6, 2020, 8:54 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/ulP2LVR.jpg

Imgur

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thats a new one

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 8:55 PM

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nice

timid minnow Oct 6, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Is it better to focus on the big chests now rather than the small ones?

lucid coral Oct 6, 2020, 9:07 PM

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what's go-to stats on heist crew items?

eager terrace Oct 6, 2020, 9:11 PM

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how did you die there...?

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did you have an ailment on you when you exited or something?

fathom ridge Oct 6, 2020, 9:24 PM

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How is it that specific hiest guys keep getting stuck all the time

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karst never has this issue

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 9:24 PM

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it's the job itself

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karst just happens to have the two most functional jobs

fathom ridge Oct 6, 2020, 9:25 PM

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it's not just when they do a job though, I'll be walking through a hallway and they just get stuck on something

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no enemies around or anything

fierce torrent Oct 6, 2020, 9:26 PM

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karst is melee as well

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iirc

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so he's got the best of everything

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the 'get stuck on something' is part of the job being bugged

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some npcs will walk from across multiple rooms to the job

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but some wont

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and it's because of the job type

rigid stream Oct 6, 2020, 9:35 PM

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For me only Giana and Neiles get stuck

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Because of how they fight

crisp tree Oct 6, 2020, 9:42 PM

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from lvl 93 yesterday to 95 today, xp is great

fathom ridge Oct 6, 2020, 10:20 PM

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so I just got softlocked in the reward room with tibbs, he won't blow up the door

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how do I get out of this

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rip those items

unreal orchid Oct 6, 2020, 10:53 PM

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does using an ancient orb remove the enchantment from a body armour?

wind phoenix Oct 6, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Do we have any videos showing the "Defeat Heist Bosses conditionally" challenge yet?

modest yoke Oct 6, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Tried heist some more times, its not so bad. Just those random instant kills at emergency are annoying, still one coudl just go out and back in before alarm so all items will stay, but still it can cost some exp. Also exp gains in heists now are pretty decent.

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 12:03 AM

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belated but @fierce torrent Karst uses projectiles (throws knives)

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@timid minnow yeah, focus big chests, and arguably don't even go out of your way for smalls; they're pretty mediocre now

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 12:30 AM

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any idea what the brittle effect % is on this?

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because it seems awesome for a guard build

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still has an open suffix too

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holy crap

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+4 to the level of herald gems

next epoch Oct 7, 2020, 12:57 AM

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herald stacking died for this

eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 1:26 AM

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crashed 4 times in a single grand heist

silver kettle Oct 7, 2020, 1:27 AM

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have you restarted to get the new crash fixes?

eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 1:27 AM

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yeah, I had to after the first

silver kettle Oct 7, 2020, 1:27 AM

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concerning!

eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 1:28 AM

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so I have only crashed outside heist before today

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but I also just finished leveling my final jobs to 5 today

silver kettle Oct 7, 2020, 1:28 AM

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crash logs go straight to the programmers for what it's worth, no need to bug report

eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 1:28 AM

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so I was switching around their rogue gear

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all of those crashes happened with niles

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I think it may be due to rogue gear granting auras

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he had a discipline aura from his new gear

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given when those crashes were happening I think it's something to do with moving in/out of their aura range

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but it could just be something with niles since it was only the wings he was active

sonic flame Oct 7, 2020, 1:56 AM

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People are rolling their reward rooms in grand heists.

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I think it's a bug.

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Anyone figured out how to start twins fight?

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I completed quest line

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dont tell me its still not in the game...

copper kernel Oct 7, 2020, 2:22 AM

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it is in the game

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:29 AM

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How do you increase the level of rewards? I am running level 83 contracts with level 4/5 job requirements but only getting yellow map rewards. All my contracts came from t14-16 maps

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:30 AM

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map dont follow map rule

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*maps

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at least for what i have seen

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:30 AM

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so just hope to get lucky ?

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 2:31 AM

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yeah

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its pretty trash system

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:31 AM

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literally no point to running the higher end contracts if that's the case

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:31 AM

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u get better rewards in ilvl 83

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what i said it that you dont get high tier maps for high ilvl contracts

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u get better frags for high ilvl but it need more testing

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*needs

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:32 AM

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i've done about 50 contracts now and have yet to see anything truly valuable

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 2:32 AM

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rng

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i guess the upside is the contracts take like 5 minutes

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:33 AM

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what type?

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lockpick demo ...?

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:33 AM

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im leveling all the skills to 5, so im doing every contract i have basically

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:34 AM

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i'm getting a lot of profit from ilvl 83 contracts

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deception and demo re sweet

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demo in particular with vinderi

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:34 AM

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im also using dump tabs, so i havent done a full profit check, im just not seeing many drops worth selling

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:34 AM

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a lot of stacked decks and a lot of currency dropping for me

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quite a bit a ancient orbs too

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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yeah raw currency is what i am getting the most

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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they are dropping quite a lot

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not shards but the whole thing

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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although nothing above chaos

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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quite some deli orbs too

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:35 AM

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unless they substantially increase experience gain, there's 0 chance im leveling these rogues every league

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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it's giving a lot of exp too

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wtf? i'm sure you are not playing heist atm

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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im talking about rogue exp

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:36 AM

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exp gear?

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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they all have exp gear, 600exp per run when you need 10k is around 20 contracts. We wont get contracts that often once heist isn't the league mechanic

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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why re thinking like this?

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i'm sure its not going to even stay

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why wince about everything

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

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heist is going core, too much investment into characters, art and rng mechanics

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id be shocked if it doesnt go core

hoary cobalt Oct 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

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nah it's not.

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 2:39 AM

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i agree , i think its going core

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even tho it had some issues

cunning blade Oct 7, 2020, 2:49 AM

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synthesis didn't go core remember whatYouDidThere

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 2:53 AM

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lol vinderi is broken

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just got 4 breachstones cause of his proc

steel shell Oct 7, 2020, 2:57 AM

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so since I don't have the regals have a chance to be exalts then the league is zero fun

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 3:04 AM

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that's what it takes for you to not have fun?

steel shell Oct 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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the most fun... its demoralizing farming grand heists all day and not getting that specific trinket to drop while others are having parties over theirs

copper kernel Oct 7, 2020, 3:13 AM

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shrug

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 3:23 AM

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well its kinda rare you know..

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isnt it like 4-5 ex atm ?

steel shell Oct 7, 2020, 3:40 AM

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10+ ex

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for a bad one

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 3:41 AM

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lol

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idk i have one still no ex drops

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regal to ex one

steel shell Oct 7, 2020, 3:42 AM

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whats the percent on it

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i got very lucky a friends loaning me an extra one he found until I upgrade from it

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 3:43 AM

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2%

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lemme check price

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im pretty sure its like 4-5 ex

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okay lowest is 395c

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6 ex

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eh

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a bit less

steel shell Oct 7, 2020, 3:45 AM

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oh ok i got a 3 percent loaner

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imagine tho having 5 percent lucky those people that do thats 1/20th chance

zealous adder Oct 7, 2020, 3:57 AM

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do the affixes on heist equipment affect your character? like the spell damage on Focal Stones or the melee damage on Sharpening stones?

eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 4:13 AM

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no

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they will specifically say "players have X" if they affect you

sour mountain Oct 7, 2020, 4:20 AM

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the auras that those items might grant will benefit you, but generally speaking they will just improve the rogue's attacks

zealous adder Oct 7, 2020, 4:25 AM

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thanks. so which rogues are melee/projectile/spell damage?

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oh nvm. i found the wiki page XD

random glacier Oct 7, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Is there a vendor recipe for contracts or blueprints to reroll

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 5:41 AM

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the brittle on block shield, anyone know what the effect % is?

eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I think it's 5 contracts of the same area

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 6:31 AM

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thoughts?

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void wing Oct 7, 2020, 6:33 AM

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What does it say when you hold alt?

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 6:42 AM

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also, i found an exqusite blade with t1 fixed attack speed <~<

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thats a good thing right? lul

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and good call, Chill

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its +5% base crit rate

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so a max block glad could totally abuse that

void wing Oct 7, 2020, 6:49 AM

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I find I don't want to get hit even as a max block glad.

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I got a life fractured cobalt jewel ytd, is nice.

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 6:51 AM

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i just found the best item all league, at least, for me lol

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fixed tier 1 attack speed

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that said, ilvl is only 82... so it might be too low for the most shenanigan worthy mods

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now i just need to learn how to craft lol

violet nymph Oct 7, 2020, 7:01 AM

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spam jagged fossils until you get good phys mods

twin reef Oct 7, 2020, 7:04 AM

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huh people are doing clean heists where you dont trigger lockdown just loot till it almost pops then leave

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i know this is gonna be a stupid question but

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do you use more than one jagged at a time? or what?

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i never got to play in delve

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i know basically 0 about any form of real crafting

deft girder Oct 7, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I got something weird.

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Drop from heist.

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 7:13 AM

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fun lol

deft girder Oct 7, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I thought you couldn't stack different type of delirium reward?

valid isle Oct 7, 2020, 7:14 AM

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you can

deft girder Oct 7, 2020, 7:16 AM

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I probably just run it like that. 100% delirious is gonna be spook.

marsh geyser Oct 7, 2020, 7:45 AM

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what exactly does the +x to level on an ally equipment do

fierce torrent Oct 7, 2020, 8:10 AM

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makes em +x level higher in combat

valid mist Oct 7, 2020, 9:42 AM

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One massive cancer 'fuck you for being melee' aspect of Heist: The TINY tether range for rogues doing doors.

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Get more than a few feet away and they'll cancel.

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Sure would suck if you needed to move more than a few feet away to hit the ranged enemies pelting you with arrows from the other side of the room. templarLul

valid mist Oct 7, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Like, I'm running a flicker build and when a ranged mob starts attacking the rogue, half the time attacking them breaks the action

quaint shadow Oct 7, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Well, even just contracts can be profitable

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I did about 50 contracts today and made way more than i expected

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When Vinderi's double item proc hits, you can really get some lucky ass currency

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With how much chaos I picked up doing contracts today, I understand why the exalt price is so low. I made more today than any other day this league I think.

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now what to spend it all on....

light crest Oct 7, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Do you only get one chance at killing Admiral Darnaw? Ran back through but could not get back to him?

fierce torrent Oct 7, 2020, 10:54 AM

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yep, one chance with every single unique contract

valid mist Oct 7, 2020, 11:23 AM

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I got an exalt from a currency chest just before. No Vindiri sadly.

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A lot of my trinket grand heists at least tend to have 6/7 chaos at the end as an option if the rest is crap, though that doesn't even really cover the markers I think.

violet nymph Oct 7, 2020, 11:24 AM

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guys anyone got idea on price?

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cunning blade Oct 7, 2020, 11:25 AM

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I don't remember heist mechanics involving price checks

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probably a fuck lot but i got no idea on the price

violet nymph Oct 7, 2020, 11:26 AM

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missed server

cunning blade Oct 7, 2020, 11:26 AM

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list it for like a dozen exalts and lower i guess

rapid shell Oct 7, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Is there any document with best great for rogues?

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to maximize profit?

lilac rain Oct 7, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Can i do something with this?

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still mural Oct 7, 2020, 1:00 PM

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there's a reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/j6klz5/simple_rogue_gearing_cheatsheet_for_maximum_heist/ with the image https://preview.redd.it/9t78kozcplr51.png?width=1749&format=png&auto=webp&s=62a412238c06c2ce4ed42098925ea75042406972. I recommend reading through the comments on the post, though; there's some good info in there that disagrees with the image. @rapid shell

r/pathofexile - Simple Rogue Gearing Cheat-sheet for Maximum Heist ...

310 votes and 92 comments so far on Reddit

rapid shell Oct 7, 2020, 1:13 PM

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❤️

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Is it me, or do reinforcments actually need time to spawn and if you are really fast they simply arent in formation yet?

light jay Oct 7, 2020, 3:17 PM

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You will zoom zoom until locked doors which requires some time to open and reinforcements will already be in formation

verbal crest Oct 7, 2020, 4:48 PM

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@still mural there is a LOT missing from that post lol

steel shell Oct 7, 2020, 5:26 PM

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why did GGG have to put reflect in heists lol

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who thinks having reflect in the game in general makes the game more fun? even if we have sextants on maps to avoid it

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I think its so such a pointless not fun mechanic

vocal echo Oct 7, 2020, 5:31 PM

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welp that's crash #3 in heist encounters, is it just me or is it normal that about 30% of heist maps are uncompleteable because they either crash or the characters refuse to do their tasks (i've had that happen at least 3 times as well, i've completed 14 contracts total)

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Thats not normal

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I havent had a single crash since the league started and only one of all of my contracts was uncompletable and that was pre Patch

vocal echo Oct 7, 2020, 5:37 PM

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🤷‍♂️ i've had 1 case where they just continued to just fight enemies instead of opening the door post patch (and whenever i got rid of the enemies they'd wait for the next wave), and another post patch where it would repeatedly try to open the door and it just didn't open, and at least 2 of the crashes were post patch as well

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not a single crash outside of heist IIRC either

fierce torrent Oct 7, 2020, 5:48 PM

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i crashed 3 times since league start in total

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eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 5:57 PM

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there is definitely a lot of crashing this patch

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but I think it's probably something not global, rogue gear affix or something maybe

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Its janky driver

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Or Other wierd system related Things

pallid rune Oct 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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im crashing outside of heist now

eager terrace Oct 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I don't think it's system related

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Is the game Using the x64 Launcher chiller?

pallid rune Oct 7, 2020, 6:00 PM

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its been the same as last league where i never crashed

lyric shuttle Oct 7, 2020, 6:03 PM

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ANY clue how this works with ball light?? https://i.imgur.com/Et8ekNa.png

Imgur

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is it shit?

fierce torrent Oct 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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doesnt BL always pierce?

split cliff Oct 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Wonder what would be the fastest way to find a 6link body (not tabula) using heist for ssf? Just doing Heists with Armor chests? Or focus on blueprints with Armor Enchantment?

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 7:04 PM

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why not both?

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but yeah, heists with armor chests is a fairly safe bet, or you can go the div card route

spiral cosmos Oct 7, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Is it even worth to run low level Blueprints (as in spend coins revealing all wings and rooms)?

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Depends on the final rewards, but usually yea, coins are Like 500-600 per c

rapid shell Oct 7, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I swear I don't understand Heist. I paid 42000 marks for 2 blueprints, full reveal. This is all the loot from it. It's just less than the price of the bluerpints and marks...

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still mural Oct 7, 2020, 8:30 PM

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well, full reveals is your first mistake

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no reason to reveal the exits, usually, or bad reward rooms

peak terrace Oct 7, 2020, 8:31 PM

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still

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thats 140 chaos worth of maeks

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marks

rapid shell Oct 7, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I don't get what I'm doing wrong. All rogues are equiped with the gear i had (not perfect gear , but still)

peak terrace Oct 7, 2020, 8:31 PM

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well Cryo

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think of it like doing an uber elder

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frags worth several ex

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to get buncha rares

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or a 10c watchers

rapid shell Oct 7, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I like to reveal the exits. It's usually around 400-500 marks and it saves lots of time

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 8:36 PM

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saving time is great, if you take that into account when looking at your earnings

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but if you're looking at earnings per blueprint, exits are obviously just a loss

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 9:18 PM

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nice

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the twins... there is only 1 contract on trade

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for fucking 15 ex

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good drop rate

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I managed to find 3 unique contract in my 6day game time

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finished almost all achievements too

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this is such a joke

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Thats because the Droprate was increased Yesterday

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And the twins was Just released yestereay

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 9:20 PM

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im talking about old ones too

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Yes the Droprate was Trippled? I think?

neat rover Oct 7, 2020, 9:21 PM

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even tho theyŗe cheap af

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still

rigid stream Oct 7, 2020, 9:21 PM

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In the latest Patch

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And the leaderships price is very good

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Apex Mode and Nadir Mode are Just average

dim moat Oct 7, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Is there a paper/picture guide out there on heist? Im just randomly picking heist characters for each contract

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not sure if each character has a special trait for a specific skill

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 9:45 PM

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each rogue has a specific perk which scales with the first skill on their list, but it's not really related to the contract types?

cerulean narwhal Oct 7, 2020, 9:45 PM

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are there some good Heist Cheat sheets or anything?

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 9:46 PM

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there's the one in #guides-archive and there's the (debatable) one in https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/j6klz5/simple_rogue_gearing_cheatsheet_for_maximum_heist/

r/pathofexile - Simple Rogue Gearing Cheat-sheet for Maximum Heist ...

553 votes and 151 comments so far on Reddit

dim moat Oct 7, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@still mural their first skill is there best skill?

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so i should just level up their 1st skill and not the others?

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 9:46 PM

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You at minimum want to level Vinderi's second skill as well, as he's the only one who gets it to level 5

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the rest... up to you and where/how you want to use them, really

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like personally I prefer not taking Gianna on grand heists, because her perk is irrelevant there, so I leveled Niles's Deception as high as it would go (4) and take him for those instead

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but yeah, the first skill scales their perk & maxes out at level 5 and the rest are lower (except for Huck, who has four skills each maxed at level 3, and Vinderi, who has two skills at level 5)

dim moat Oct 7, 2020, 9:49 PM

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@still mural is lock picking still best for currency

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 9:50 PM

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lockpicking, agility, and counter-thaumaturgy all have currency; I haven't really checked which has it most often, but I think lockpicking probably is the best of the three since it also has fragments

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and not a lot of meh rewards like agility

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the image in #guides-archive has the full list

still mural Oct 7, 2020, 10:43 PM

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can try walking away and back up to it, clearing away enemies if they're distracting your rogue, leaving the heist and re-entering...

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 12:05 AM

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templarLul

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frosty aurora Oct 8, 2020, 12:05 AM

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what happens when u go with 3 dudes that have 20% to not generate alert on a grand heist

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60% of the times no alert?

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xd\

rocky bridge Oct 8, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Is there a way to access stash in between gheist wings yet?

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 12:07 AM

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you can leave & re-enter safely, yeah

rocky bridge Oct 8, 2020, 12:07 AM

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oh shit really?

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 12:08 AM

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since the patch before last, yeah 😄

south shard Oct 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Which follower for heists give weapon chests?

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 12:16 AM

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It's based on the job listed in the contract, not on the follower. Brute force & trap disarming give weapon chest

frosty aurora Oct 8, 2020, 12:30 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8P0P9W28Vg

YouTube

TheGAM3Report1

[Path of Exile] Heist Gear Made Simple After The 3.12.3 Patch That ...

This patch is so amazing. Hopefully this video helps you gear your crew for some INSANE heists!

Day 19: https://pastebin.com/GUPQAL19

POB Tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSVWidA3nT8
Elegant Hubris Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNXrRUe__Oo
AG: https://y...

▶ Play video

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perhaps somebody can find it useful

granite pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 12:40 AM

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🤔

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is it a 15 minute video about opening poedb?

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 12:46 AM

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yes

granite pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 12:46 AM

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templarthumbsup

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 12:47 AM

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he is stalling in every video he creates

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did you read news btw

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harvest is going core

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3.13

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they're going to remove all the boring part

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thats good

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 1:02 AM

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that isn't exactly what bex said >.>

rose pasture Oct 8, 2020, 1:14 AM

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So they are removing last nonbugged things from poe?

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 1:16 AM

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eh?

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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the boring part is my opinion

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"boring part" where you run and collect seeds and plant them

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 1:29 AM

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but they didn't say they were removing that, even; they just said there will be changes

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I know

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its my bad

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but it would make sense

granite pagoda Oct 8, 2020, 1:37 AM

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imagine if they bring harvest into core but it's just planting and no crafting templarthumbsup

cobalt falcon Oct 8, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Only oshabi battle map

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On zana

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Cortex like

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With already stored craft as reward

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 2:18 AM

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thats a pog idea x0

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and there are like 10 crafting stations

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and you can use all of them

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and they're randomized

cobalt falcon Oct 8, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Yeah, but the zana rng part is kindaaa have cortex feel

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Well they can also include ready to harvest map

rocky bridge Oct 8, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Do you guys alch gheists?

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 2:39 AM

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yep

south chasm Oct 8, 2020, 2:46 AM

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yes

tender lake Oct 8, 2020, 2:52 AM

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What can corrupting a hiest roll for mods?

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 3:07 AM

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time to do 100 heists and see if any exalts drop with this regal as exalts thing.

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I am not missing anything to grand heists, you have to choose which loot to save throughout all your wings right? I am usually full by the end of wing 1/2 and have to spend time deciding what to abandon

visual sedge Oct 8, 2020, 3:18 AM

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what the hell is killing me in normal heists through 6.5k HP and 2k molten shell in less than 1/60 of a second?

spice cipher Oct 8, 2020, 3:18 AM

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just go back and stash?

visual sedge Oct 8, 2020, 3:18 AM

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this character can tank a A6 sirus die beam

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but heist trash dunks him?

spice cipher Oct 8, 2020, 3:18 AM

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6.5k is not much

fresh valley Oct 8, 2020, 3:20 AM

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How hard does "Area Level" or Contract Level effect the rewards from normal and special chests in Heists? Does it scale really well or is there not much of a difference in say 78-83 maps, or does it scale very heavily at the end, etc

vast wedge Oct 8, 2020, 3:30 AM

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hey guys.. can someone tell me how the "increased level" in rogue gear works? =/

crisp tree Oct 8, 2020, 4:20 AM

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i find heists and grand heists very safe to run, i am playing flicker strike glad, i leveled from 93 to 95 yesterday, heists 81+ and rare.
today i tried to complete challenges in maps, i died 6 times in toxic sewer 8 mods, no sextants, no scarabs, just Jun mission.

weak trout Oct 8, 2020, 4:21 AM

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my experience with heists is that templar mobs are particularly rippy but the rest isnt anywhere near as bad

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the rippiness might also just be them being much tankier which lets them get off hits, i've needed to do twice as much damage or more to kill them compared to the other enemy sets

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Templar mobs are really Legion-esque, lots of auras and whatnot

weak trout Oct 8, 2020, 4:22 AM

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also 6.5k hp, if you have a good defensive layer like high block, is a lot more than 'not much'

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Really scary when you get one with a big haste aura and have like 50 templars chasing you at high speed hahaha

weak trout Oct 8, 2020, 4:27 AM

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like my char has a blade vortex that hits for average 1.1m on sirus resists before conductivity/exposure/sigil of power and the white templars take 2-3 ticks when theyre piled up behind the doors

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on all the other enemy sets i 1-2 shot everything including rares, with 3-4 hits for uniques

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miners and whatnot that can control the fight much better have an easier time with them though, cause theyre almost entirely melee

somber bison Oct 8, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Is there a tier list some where of the best rooms in heists/grand heists?

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Wait, can you go back to the hideout between wings?

weak trout Oct 8, 2020, 4:36 AM

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you can now

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:37 AM

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...damn, i thought once u went through the portal closed. Ive just been dropping less valuable shit between wings and losing it

somber bison Oct 8, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Good thing you haven't been dropping more valuable shit

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:39 AM

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i mean tbf, aside from an ex and a couple breachstones, ive found nothing truly valuable in heist. only large quantities of low value stuff

weak trout Oct 8, 2020, 4:40 AM

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my personal ranking for reward rooms goes roughly as... (delirium, cards, currency) > (blight, breach, harbinger) > (legion, delve, gems, metamorph, maps) > essence > jewelry > abyss (level 83 ONLY) > talismans > weapons > armor > uniques > prophecy

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:40 AM

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i made like 400c from div cards last night, pulled a couple nice cards from about 300 stacked decks

weak trout Oct 8, 2020, 4:41 AM

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with the amount of delirium orbs heist spits out you can 1-orb a lot of good maps

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the only 'good' ones i wouldnt orb are ones where youre specifically abusing map mechanics with the mirror like jungle valley or malformation

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to get splinters

somber bison Oct 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Thanks for that @weak trout

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:42 AM

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unusual gems have been my most profitable grand heist

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and by most profitable, i mean least bad

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all the replicas, experimental bases and stuff i find are trash

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but i usually find a 10c gem or one of those 25c lens in unusual gem heists

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speak of the devil

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3 already in the past 20 minutes

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some of these skill gems are insanely valuable if you hit the vaal with 21/20 though

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even a 20/20 alt quality purity of elements is worth 10ex

somber bison Oct 8, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I also got one of those just now

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:49 AM

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25c seems like a big gamble with so many possible random qualities out there

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assuming im understanding how that works

signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 4:50 AM

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its strongly weighted sometimes, the alt qualities

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 4:52 AM

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im honestly enjoying the randomness of it all. granted most heists only net a few chaos, but its cool to have a nearly endless slot machine to pull

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its buggy and imbalanced, but ive never made currency so easily before

somber bison Oct 8, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Just sold two of those lens for 60c, not bad

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 AM

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anyone here managed to complete nashta the usurper achievement?

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this one

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i bricked mine

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because I dont know how to get emberstorm withoutt fucking triggering it

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i feel like its heavily bugged

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not like i care about lost 2 ex

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just so frustrating

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holy shit

sick hemlock Oct 8, 2020, 5:33 AM

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can anyone suggest builds that are specificly for running heist?

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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so... thoughts

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heist chests op

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signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 7:24 AM

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._.

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sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 7:25 AM

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thats a lotta nuts

signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 7:30 AM

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not quite dupe worthy, but still

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Thats 2/4 wings

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How do the Others look

somber bison Oct 8, 2020, 7:39 AM

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I swear I always get nothing good out of fragment rooms, only like the goddess statues and dusk pieces

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 7:50 AM

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yeah

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my reward rooms feel completely different tonight for what's in them. last night i was getting breach, delve and delirium reward rooms while leveling my rogue jobs. tonight for the same jobs all im getting are essence, jewelry, prophecy. im just opening all chests and ignoring the reward rooms half the time tonight

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and these mystery rooms are pretty trash too

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 7:54 AM

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reward rooms are awesome imho

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 7:55 AM

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at this rate ill hit 98 for the first time, i still am not getting tired of endlessly running heists

signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 8:01 AM

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the others kinda suck

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only one currency room on the first wing

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okay, that was about 2ex+ in profit, I think?
1 actual raw ex drop, half an ex in shards, about 25c in alt gems, and then various currency I didn't bother counting.

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Too much lootsplosion, spent more time picking the stuff up and dying once before alarm because I forgot to press z and I couldn't see shit.

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...trinket halfway to paying off its own cost that I didn't pay?

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:08 AM

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heist is about the crazy item drops honestly

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it gives a lot of upper crafted rewards either in curio chests at the end of GHs or random drops that are way too good to be normal

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like a corrupted jewel with a total of 26% attack speed and corrupted blood can not be inflicted lol

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:09 AM

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i identified about 200 rares last night from heists and grand heists, all ilvl 83+. i sold 3 of them for 5 chaos each. most rares outside of the GH rewards are still trash

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the identified jewels that drop are pretty good if they roll right, just like the talismans

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:10 AM

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enchanted armaments worth running at all? i like to stick to unusual gems

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unusual gems is shittons of bank

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:10 AM

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this is thanks to heist, Cosmic

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quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:11 AM

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you can get god roll items from enchanted, but it's also a lot of runs with reward rooms being more profitable than the end rewards

signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 8:11 AM

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at the very least, you get the side rooms

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:12 AM

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unusual gems is the most consistent money, but replica and enchanted has the chance for the biggest value items, but has more worthless runs because most of the curio rewards are dog shit

signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 8:12 AM

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...honestly you get a lot more from the side rooms than the actual target, unless you get very lucky and strike gold

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:12 AM

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id say the side rooms are always the best

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but check the end before alerting

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because you do find crazy things

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that said most the money i have made has been straight ex drops

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:15 AM

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i made just under 1k chaos yesterday, all from individual drops from side rooms and contracts

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:15 AM

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i usually find gems worth 1ex+

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:15 AM

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div cards, chayula breachstones, etc

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when you get a high value item like a breachstone and vinderi's double item shit procs

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its magic

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im waiting for the double exalt proc

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but his double proc shit made me almost 300c yesterday, so vinderi goes everywhere

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:16 AM

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double exalt proc lol

signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 8:16 AM

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usually there's at least one gem in there worth 10c or something

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:16 AM

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i would nut for days straights

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:16 AM

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yeah, vinderi is always worth taking

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:16 AM

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exalts arent that special this league lol

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theyre normally 150-180c, not fucking 60

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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found a prime regrading lens in there too

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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@oak ore

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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unusual gems

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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gambled on a toxic rain and got phantasmal kek

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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like this? exaltThink

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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I found 4 prime regarding lens in 2 unusual gems

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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niceee

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jesus

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 AM

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level 81 GH, single alch

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also got this staff i want to do something with, but... i dont know what

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 AM

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vinderi double procced a carcass jack earlier, its a shame theyre worthless

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 AM

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signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 AM

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best i got was a double fine deli orb

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 AM

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i mean, +120% increased damage, +100% increased crit, some added flat damage

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and it adds 100 ES

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also 30% cast speed

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 AM

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He has procc'ed double regals a few times now. Waiting for it to proc with this and give me 2 ex

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valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 AM

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but im not sure how to make use of its eldritch battery mod the best

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im still trying to find a regal-> ex trinket

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but i feel like the alch -> chaos one nets more worth over all

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 AM

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i paid 400c for mine

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 AM

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er, alteration* -> chaos

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 AM

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I found and Aug > Chaos

dusky wedge Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 AM

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is there a cheat sheet for which duplicate rolls you should have on each rogue on the brooch?

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Depends on what your contracts have

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:21 AM

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also, even though these are super cheap

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im totally using them in a build

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thats an easy 40% move speed, 4% regen, 40% increased damage with +life

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:21 AM

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damn

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another ex, 4ex so far in less than 20 contracts

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 AM

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yeah, ex are super common this league

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its why they are trading at like what... 60 chaos?

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and dropping lol

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 AM

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i think theyre cheap cause everyone is chaos rich too

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 AM

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then again, chaos is super common too

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yeah lol

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i dont think i have played a 2-3 hour stint without finding at least 20-30 chaos or 1-2 ex

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where harvest league was the league of super powered crafted items

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this is the league of "here, have currency"

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:23 AM

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heists has been more profitable in about 18 hours than a week of mapping was

signal swan Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 AM

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tbh other leagues tend to be just as profitable, but it's rarely straight up raw currency

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could spend most of harvest just selling crafts

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 AM

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gonna suck being poor as shit next league

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i think the lab is my least favorite place by far

oak ore Oct 8, 2020, 8:37 AM

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i really dislike the robots and the cyberpunk nazis

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or whatever theyre called

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 8:41 AM

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I think they both stray a bit far from theme

fair pebble Oct 8, 2020, 8:45 AM

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When doing Grand Heists, does the brooch duplicate bonuses apply from all the 3 rogues on the mission or just the one opening the chests? so you can get 45% chance of duplicating currency chests?

proven lion Oct 8, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Trying to make attention.
Fossil crafting heist blueprints https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/j797ts/contracts_and_blueprints_can_be_beastsplited_but/?

stuck horizon Oct 8, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Dear GGG plz rework Huck and add him to load screen give him some love
And let us pet good boy at rogue port these will make heist great again LoL :D

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Oops

frosty aurora Oct 8, 2020, 9:18 AM

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NOPERS

quaint vine Oct 8, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Hi guys, just giving you heads up:
The heist gear for followers is completely broken, mods like "chests have %# chance to duplicate cointained currency/scarabs/etc" Doesn't work at all.
I've opened over 200 reward room chests with a total of 30% duplication chance on gear and it hasn't procced a single time.
Vindari does work however, the loot duplication is clearly noticable, but the items are completely bugged

void wing Oct 8, 2020, 10:04 AM

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So just like launch, cool.

vivid agate Oct 8, 2020, 10:39 AM

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So how do you get the unique heist contracts?

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Do all green contracts and then they drop from caches

abstract obsidian Oct 8, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Can someone help me understanding a bit better on how Whakano gets "reveals"? I understand is by doing contracts (?) but I have done like two now and he still only has 1 reveal...

mental gate Oct 8, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Do my rogues get extra experience from doing optional tasks during heist?

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 11:52 AM

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No

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And you need to do lvl 68+ contracts to get reveals

glad ruin Oct 8, 2020, 12:31 PM

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has anyone successfully used a regrading lens to go from something like divergent -> anomalous? or does it only go alt quality -> normal

torn isle Oct 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Does item quantity/rarity affect the heist targets of grand heists?

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aka if my only target are replicas from grand heists, is there any point upping the IR/IQ?

frosty aurora Oct 8, 2020, 1:20 PM

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what do you think

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i think the answer is clearly no

flat fjord Oct 8, 2020, 3:21 PM

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how do you run contracts? white? yellow =

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 3:25 PM

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As high as you can manage

neat rover Oct 8, 2020, 4:56 PM

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kek

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modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I cant understand how should I approach heist alarm run. Even when I had alarm bar in half and started alarm, was fighting in 1 room for 20minutes (necro) mob were diing like on 2 hits but they keep going keep going 25 mobs in that room non stop.

So here I stay bored to death thinking, what should I actually do ? Since if I run there try dash throught or anything its 50/50 i just die in oneshot. (And I have been in there every second contract)

Soo, what I am doing wrong ?

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Might need to adapt your build a bit, most standard mapping setups don’t have the sort of utility you’ll need to bust through those huge mob packs

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Uh, how much HP, Block? Glancing blows? hp gain on Block? Auto cast offering?

finite rune Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Does beastiary items drops from contrat or grand heist?

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Alt Q plague bearer?

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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dunno 4800hp all ress on 75 also chaos, block about 40.

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Basalt flask?

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Granite flask?

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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But that is it, am supposed to run into 50 mobs and hope for not get oneshot ?

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Dash/flamedash with Second Wind?

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Thats whole heist point ?

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Bone Armor on left click

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Enduring cry?

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I’ve specialized my build quite a bit and don’t really die in heists. Just figure out why you’re dying and come up with a counterplay

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:13 PM

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was hoping there is actually some way that those mob waves can be stopped by some heist companions gear 😦

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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The mob waves are mostly affected by mods on the contract and opening reward rooms

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If you have two reward room doors next to one another you may want to skip one and just open small chests if you’re dying too much

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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was white non alched map with only half alarm bar :/

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Because two doors can create HUGE packs

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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oh so infinite packs run from big treasure rooms ?

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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you should be able to survive without too much trouble, honestly

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Yeah each big treasure room becomes a mob spawner when you’re in lockdown

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:15 PM

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like if i only open small ones am safe ?

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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More safe, but that’s not optimal

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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if you're having trouble with reinforcements, your build probably is not suited for red maps

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:16 PM

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^^

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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dunno i do 16 blights with half sleep, but have troubles in heist

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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🤔

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any kind of movement skill should make the door mobs easy to deal with; you just dash/whatever through them

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maybe get phasing too

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:17 PM

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back to topic, No big room openings = no infinite spawns ?

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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There are still infinite spawns but far less

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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^

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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well i use phase run, when am out of patience to run through , but still it is 50/50 to survive

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 5:18 PM

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if you run through, their initial hits will go at the doorway after you've already gone through it; then you just kill a bunch of em before they get to take a second shot

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you may have trouble with laboratory/restricted library if you don't have any chaos resistance...?

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templar is mostly phys & lightning

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:19 PM

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am 75 at all resistances

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I forget what the robots deal; main thing there is to avoid the on death explosions & the big energy balls

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idk why you're having trouble

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:20 PM

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but tnx Ill try small chest strategy when low on coins and not even try to alarm when looting big ones :p

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Yeah it can take some getting used to but just don’t stop moving and don’t backtrack or else you’ll probably die. When you have to camp out for a sec to wait for doors just get out ASAP or the mobs will keep piling up

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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or maybe big one only if its near to end, since there seems to be some time till they spawn at start

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Which is really bad for Templars for instance because a lot of the rares have auras

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So the mobs are just getting turbobuffed if you let them keep spawning

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:21 PM

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T.T

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its like in Moria

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there is no end of them 😄

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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hahaha

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-lotr-this-day-we-fight-gif-14120757

Tenor

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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that isn't moria

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/s

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 5:23 PM

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actual screenshot from a Bunker contract 😮

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:25 PM

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("moria" gif search showed something even more terrifiing so I went with ilustrative image instead :D)

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I Play Bonk Champion, the more Mobs there are the more dmg i do

cunning yoke Oct 8, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Why are people saying agility are top-tier rewards for contracts?

abstract obsidian Oct 8, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Can someone help me understanding a bit better on how Whakano gets "reveals"? I understand is by doing contracts (?) but I have done like two now and he still only has 1 reveal...

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Only lvl 68+

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I am in grand heist, there is trap room shooting nets and then some fire balls, but there is no button anywhere to dissable it and it blocks my path ?

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 6:05 PM

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There should be. Also kill all the dudes around it

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 6:06 PM

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:/

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i need to get past that door and down

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 6:07 PM

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you have to dodge past them into the control room

modest yoke Oct 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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oh ok tnx

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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yeah you can see the terminal icon on your minimap there

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sometimes you have to go into the trap room a bit to get to it

fathom ridge Oct 8, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Did they nerf talismans? The ones that have been dropping don't have passive skills anymore

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Only the ones from real Talisman chests have annoints

fathom ridge Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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🤔 ....are the ones in regular hiests not real

hasty perch Oct 8, 2020, 8:17 PM

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i love how they bandaid fixed that s

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"hm let's put random annoints on talismans so maybe you can RNG your way to a usable talisman"

fathom ridge Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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it actually made them good

hasty perch Oct 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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because allowing you to annoint talismans would break the game

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very dangerous

fathom ridge Oct 8, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I guess now the talismans I have saved with those are going to be extra valuable

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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The talismans you get from small chests or Safes arent annointed. Only the ones from Talisman chests

fathom ridge Oct 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I just opened a talisman chest and zero annoints 🤔

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Pre lvl 68?

fathom ridge Oct 8, 2020, 8:21 PM

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77

rigid stream Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Thats strange

fathom ridge Oct 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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maybe because it's an old contract

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Contracts were supposedly updated, only legacy blueprints exist

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It’s not just talismans from Heists tho, all 68+ sources drop them with annoints now

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I’ve been getting them from Legion and stuff

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They’re actually kinda sick lol

distant scarab Oct 8, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Are there any guides or cheatsheet on what stats are considered "meta" for specialist equipment?

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Damn, that reddit post about split blueprints. I knew heist was insane money generation, but holy fuck did that guy take it to another level

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Alert level reduction and job speed lol

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 PM

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The only truly valuable gear slots are the ones that give chances to duplicate/generate more items. The items with buffs and stuff are minor QOL things like job speed. If your build struggles with heist mobs, there different auras that rogues can have like haste, wrath, etc

distant scarab Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Okay. Thank you for the info

night bloom Oct 8, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Yeah, and I’d try to think more about specializing rogues for blueprints than contracts

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Try to really gear out a few for running blueprints since their bonuses stack, don’t spread your good gear too thin

distant scarab Oct 8, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Aaah okay. Noted

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Thanks again

languid river Oct 8, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Think this is worth copying?

quaint shadow Oct 8, 2020, 9:15 PM

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I believe whether or not it's worth copying is determined by whether or not it will make more money than you lose/spend by doing the beast craft

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

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THATS A LOTTA NUTS

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 9:30 PM

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hard to make a profit using a split beast rn

languid cape Oct 8, 2020, 9:36 PM

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uh quick question, any idea if its intended for spectre projectiles not to work with the anomalous faster casting quality modifier (chance for projectiles to return)?
please tag me when you respond, spectres in questions are Baranite Preachers
it technically should work as it has [projectile] tag and DOES work with GMP, no idea why this doesn't

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Probably intended to work; a lot of alt quality gems have issues at the moment. May be worth posting in the bug reports forum so they know about this interaction. @languid cape

languid cape Oct 8, 2020, 9:53 PM

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aye, will do that then

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thanks 🙂

still mural Oct 8, 2020, 9:54 PM

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especially since a quick scan of the plans they just posted don't mention it

next epoch Oct 8, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Can anyone confirm for me whether the quest contract "The Rescue" is available in game?

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It's a quest contract, not a unique one, so it wouldn't appear in trade

silver kettle Oct 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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@next epoch it is

next epoch Oct 8, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@silver kettle Thanks! Wanted to make sure I wouldn't be spoiling any content you were holding onto when I updated my audio index next week.

silver kettle Oct 8, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I think I've seen a few threads about it on the subreddit removed for spoilers templarLul

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quite a few people outraged about the plot developments

next epoch Oct 8, 2020, 10:25 PM

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😿

silver kettle Oct 8, 2020, 10:25 PM

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quite

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I did all the setup for that questline so am totally numb to it at this point

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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viper what build should my second char be

silver kettle Oct 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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what was your first

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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SR/Bane Occultist

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just got a5 sirus cleared but shes soooooo boring

silver kettle Oct 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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actually why do I even need to ask

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my answer is always going to be indigon EQ

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😄

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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so you dont tell me to make a second SR Bane occultist in a row

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ssf fwiw so i cant reliably get indigon, but i could play archmage something

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okay im playing archmage something. whats the skill

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 10:34 PM

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man, im trying to research hexblast

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but everything about it just looks bad <~<

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:35 PM

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someone here (can't remember who?) is having a lot of success with hexblast ignite

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i also think hexblast has a lot of meat with Archmage

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because all that damage gets jacked up by the More multiplier from the Doom, and can all apply all elemental ailments

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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yeah, but thats pretty much any archmage build i feel like

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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not quite, just because of how hexblast works, with needing to let Doom accumulate

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 10:49 PM

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i will agree though that archmage seems the way to go with it

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which kinda sucks, but it does seem to be the only real way to scale it.

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a pure chaos way would be nice, but i dont think there is anyway to add enough flat chaos

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:50 PM

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only thing i can think of is voltaxic

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but thats just archmage again lol

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 10:50 PM

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lol yep

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:50 PM

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actually, voltaxic hexblast would create some monster shocks

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 10:54 PM

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yeah, but i dont think anything else about voltaxic does much for hexblast

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so you would probably be better off with a chaos staff or something

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oh wait, i never knew they added a 300% more shock value to it

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wew

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i do miss 100% conversion voltaxic

sour mountain Oct 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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just turns tha tlightning damage into chaos

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like it's playable you can scale off raw chaos damage, use a lightning shot skill

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or use it as a stat stick for poison arc

valid isle Oct 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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yeah

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well, i went ahead and found every unique that adds chaos damage

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lol

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apep's rage and apep's supremacy seem like they would work for this

sonic glen Oct 8, 2020, 11:18 PM

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so the league is going to be feature-complete a third of the way through it?

spice cipher Oct 9, 2020, 12:39 AM

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im playing hexblast chaos hit

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its pretty good

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gear is hella scuffed , clear is top notch, bossing kinda meh rn for me but i know with some gear it can be powerful

alpine whale Oct 9, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Hey, a few days ago there was a reddit post with what are the best heist member items, does anyone have a link for me? I cant seem to find it

vast glade Oct 9, 2020, 12:51 AM

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do the rogues bonus in grand heists stack if i choose the same master multiple times

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or is it better to pick different masters?

rich belfry Oct 9, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Anyone that can awnser a couple of questions about the Heist thing :>?

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i have a few

quaint shadow Oct 9, 2020, 12:58 AM

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There's no way to check blueprints room counts on trade is there?

wintry stone Oct 9, 2020, 12:58 AM

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what's the best way to get the heist quest contacts? they only drop from smuggler's chests, right?

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 12:59 AM

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feel free to ask here @rich belfry

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not on trade sites afaik, no; can press alt when it's in the trade window though @quaint shadow

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yeah, and smuggler's caches are 1/10 chance to spawn in maps, so just run maps. they are buffing the drop rate next week @wintry stone

wintry stone Oct 9, 2020, 1:01 AM

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good to know they're buffing it, thanks

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 1:02 AM

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actually I might be making that up; I can't find where I thought I read that @wintry stone

wintry stone Oct 9, 2020, 1:07 AM

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oh haha

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well, i guess the answer either way is to do more maps

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no shortcuts

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was hoping i could spam quarry real quick or something, but i'm not seeing anyone online doing that

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Yeah, you can try running maps without juicing them, so they're faster, and potentially skip the bosses, if all you're looking for is smuggler's caches

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you do need to be running the highest tiers you can, though, since quest contracts do have minimum ilvls

wintry stone Oct 9, 2020, 1:09 AM

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that makes sense

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 1:09 AM

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they are adding another heist boss next patch, though, so you might wait till then to try hard-farming them

next epoch Oct 9, 2020, 1:14 AM

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FWIW: unlike previous league mechanics, the spawn rates for heist chests in non-map areas ramp down as the area level increases

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the spawn rate in quarry (or whatever) is a bit higher than 10%, iirc, but not by a lot

gentle kayak Oct 9, 2020, 1:19 AM

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How does Heist league/mechanic feel since the patch earlier this week?

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 1:20 AM

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It's been good IMO, but I've enjoyed it since league launch, so shrugR

noble pilot Oct 9, 2020, 1:20 AM

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seriously, how do I opt out of the Adiyah quests? Perception contracts are cancer, and I don't want the undroppable contracts

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 1:20 AM

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can't always get all the small chests, but the big ones are much better than the smalls anyway

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you won't get them anymore if you bite the bullet and run them

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also perception isn't anywhere near as bad as it used to be

noble pilot Oct 9, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I have been trying. So much fun tiptoeing around for 15 minutes just to biff it anyway

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 1:25 AM

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is there something about those quests that make it more difficult? (haven't done them) because normally you just... run through the totem room

next epoch Oct 9, 2020, 1:25 AM

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If you're having trouble, just skip the chests and run through everything

noble pilot Oct 9, 2020, 1:27 AM

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I dunno. Seems like the first one puts me half maxed and the next one just ends it. I can't fathom why this exists, really

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or why bother having loot rooms then

vast glade Oct 9, 2020, 1:27 AM

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do the rogues bonus in grand heists stack if i choose the same master multiple times

neat rover Oct 9, 2020, 1:43 AM

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damn X to exalt orb trinket going up slowly but steadily

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 1:49 AM

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eh?

empty musk Oct 9, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Does this +4 on cloak increase each of the heist member's trades by the value? so a level 1 agility would become 5?

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next epoch Oct 9, 2020, 2:24 AM

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No. It increases the (monster) level of the rogue, not the level of their skills

empty musk Oct 9, 2020, 2:25 AM

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ah I see, so there is no way to increase their skill level directly?

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other than leveling them with experience

next epoch Oct 9, 2020, 2:27 AM

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There are some high-level heist gear mods along the lines of "+1 to <specific job> Level" or "+1 to Level of all Jobs".

empty musk Oct 9, 2020, 2:27 AM

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ahhh

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okay thanks 😄

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rolled on cloaks or other pieces?

next epoch Oct 9, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Job levels are on heist tools (center slot) -- lockpicks, keyrings, etc.

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Both of those mods are weighted very low and have a high level requirement. See e.g. https://poedb.tw/us/Steel_Drill#ModBase for details

valid isle Oct 9, 2020, 2:36 AM

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what does boosting level above 5 do anyhow?

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its not like there are any things that require lockpicking 6, by example

next epoch Oct 9, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Unknown, probably nothing.

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 3:04 AM

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possibly further increases job speed

sour mountain Oct 9, 2020, 4:20 AM

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i thought + level just increased their actual level

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like, as a minion

neat rover Oct 9, 2020, 4:46 AM

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i bricked 4 heart of glory maps, i am truly disabled i cant do this achievement...

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8 ex to the drain

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💩

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 4:51 AM

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it does; +job level and +all job level are different mods than +level @sour mountain

restive phoenix Oct 9, 2020, 4:59 AM

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There is a way to know the value of the item on grand heist (last 5 item we have to chose) exept check on market 1 by 1

quaint shadow Oct 9, 2020, 5:24 AM

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no

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not unless you memorize the prices which are always changing

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for instance, im doing a grand heist unusual gems

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im checking the prices of each gem as i pass them

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i have this which is apparently worth 500c

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oof, 1 shot almost got me

willow vigil Oct 9, 2020, 7:03 AM

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hi, I have a few questions and would be great if anyone can answer, during grand heists, do all the followers passives work on opening chests? for reduced alert level?

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second if you take the same follower 3 times in the same wing, does his passive stack?

jagged surge Oct 9, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Follower items counts once so stacking same follower shouldnt have any benefit

quaint shadow Oct 9, 2020, 8:07 AM

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Can we talk about how fucking incredible a lot of the dialogue is during heists? I know it can get old and some of it is annoying, but there's a lot of great banter and interactions between rogues.

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trash

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tell you what, having one of these regal -> exalt trinkets make you despise seeing regals drop

dim moat Oct 9, 2020, 10:06 AM

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DO heist monsters give regular exp

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just like maps?

rigid stream Oct 9, 2020, 10:25 AM

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No, they give substantially more XP

languid river Oct 9, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Where do tempering orbs drop? Cannot find on wiki

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Poedb also doesn't tell where exactly

dim moat Oct 9, 2020, 11:27 AM

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When do you get a the trinket slot?

void wing Oct 9, 2020, 11:28 AM

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You have to run a grand heist with the Trinket reward.

languid river Oct 9, 2020, 11:28 AM

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@dim moat you do grand heist that has trinkets at end

dim moat Oct 9, 2020, 11:37 AM

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@languid river is it a specific grand heist or randomized?

jagged surge Oct 9, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Trinket and currency heist

void hedge Oct 9, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Thought on mechalarm belt? Don't hear anything about it but it seems like a decent implicit that taunts

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not sure if you can hunter orb it

cedar root Oct 9, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Anyone have issues with Gianna deception? I can’t open doors with her in underbelly

floral gale Oct 9, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Short question: does using orb of alchemy on contracts/blueprints improve drops from chests?

still mural Oct 9, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Not sure (it doesn't for Blight, but I'm not sure we know if it does for Heist).

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But each contract mod does give reduced alert, which lets you open more chests

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(along with +lockdown time and more enemies during the escape, in addition to the usual iiq/iir/+packsize)

frosty aurora Oct 9, 2020, 3:04 PM

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gotta come close near the door with gianna

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then open

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she bugs easily

celest atlas Oct 9, 2020, 3:13 PM

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@restive phoenix i guess filter could help here

violet nymph Oct 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Hy! Whats an heist trinket and how do i equip it?