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pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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ur lucky to get 1 chaos orb

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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What 8 drops lmao

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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used to be like

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whetstone wehtstone, alc regal vaal chaos chaos

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now its

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I got about 6 or so on average from those from the league start

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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chaos, whetstone whetstone scouring alc

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at best

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Do you meticulously write down every literal drop compared to area mods?

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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i was paying attention to it pretty thoroughly

worldly ember Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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You really think it took 2 days for them to turn off alert on killing things? No that time was spent "rebalancing" the loot and not mentioning it

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Whats your sample size

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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and my exilence nexxt has been recording it

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are u actually arguing this

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every single person i play with

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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have you been running white/blue contracts or alching them?

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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is saying the same thing

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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This is some high grade tinfoil shit

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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the loot got ruined

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they lowered the multiplier

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100%

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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AlexTinfoil

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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then explain how I managed to get 28 catalysts from one heist

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on top of about 10c or so worth of other currency?

worldly ember Sep 23, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Mhm because they 100% didnt do this with harvest and then later call it a "bug" and they definitely didnt do it with delirium while disguising it as a"buff"

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:07 AM

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I'll believe you once you bring some real statistical evidence

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 6:07 AM

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But it feels worse dude

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Must be those damned devs

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Ruining the loot

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:07 AM

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if you've really been recording it, how about you track all the drops prepatch and postpatch?

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go on, I'll wait

worldly ember Sep 23, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Are you just completely blanking out harvest where they "buffed" seed drops and then all of a sudden we couldn't find any of the crafts that were actually worth a damn

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and then 2 weeks later said it was a "bug"

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:08 AM

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"tarlomToday at 11:07 PM
I'll believe you once you bring some real statistical evidence"

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this is the most creinge shit

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how oblivious are u

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every SINGLe person i play with that plays hard

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says the same thing

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the small chests drop jack squat now

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they ruined the mehcanic

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Youre still yet to provide any proof besides muh friends

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:09 AM

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sounds like confirmation bias to me tbh, especially with how absolutely ridiculous your claims of how drops were before the patch

cedar plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:09 AM

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I definitely feel like the loot per chest has been reduced.

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Loot per heist is probably about the same.

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:09 AM

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1 chaos per box and 2 exalt shards every other box, yeah, sure, let me have someone of what you're smoking please

worldly ember Sep 23, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Or how with delirium they changed the drops from a single item which you could get to like 8. And it was practically gauranteed to give high quality shit. Then they changed it to the 5-3-1 calling it a "buff" but the quality of all the drops plummeted and actually hitting 5-3-1 was like twice as hard

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:15 AM

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the small bronze chests

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more than half of them are just like 4 rare pieces of gear that no one care sabout now

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my exilence next chaso per hour

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has gone from

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20-30

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to

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5

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:16 AM

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"exilence next"?

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:17 AM

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found a second le huep

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:17 AM

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also, are you kidding me? I've make twice consistently that in the past 3 hours from heists

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:17 AM

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are they common now? lol

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:22 AM

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heist loot ruined

weary crater Sep 23, 2020, 6:25 AM

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did they say when they are going to fix grand heist doors

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:32 AM

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dude if you were only getting 20-30 chaos per hour before the patch, you were already doing things wrong

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I just got 10c of a white heist (dropped corrupted), opened every single small and big chest, took less than 5 minutes. and that's less than what I've been averaging lately

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 6:35 AM

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one persons experience doesnt reflect the game i guess

astral badger Sep 23, 2020, 6:36 AM

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What's the max level that an accomplice's skill can hit?

cedar plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:36 AM

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its different for each rogue

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you can see visually in game when its capped though - it will say next level 0 xp

sour mountain Sep 23, 2020, 6:36 AM

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the main skill's cap is 5

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other skills are usually 2-3

placid grail Sep 23, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Can alternate quality gems become vaal skills, i.e anomalous vaal reave?

sour mountain Sep 23, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i think Isla has two main skills capping at 5 and Huck has no main skill(but i'm not sure)

cedar plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Isla goes 5/4, noone can get 2 level 5 skills

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Huck goes 3/3/3/3

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Actually, vinderi can go 5/5/2

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:41 AM

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@pseudo hull whoo boy they really nerfed the drops of heist huh didn't they buddy?

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can't believe I'm only getting ~10 chaos for every 5 minute heist map

sour mountain Sep 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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alert can also be generated by this weird motion sensor? ish thing, on some tilesets

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:44 AM

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I mean really, how dare GGG lower the profit from your quoted 30c/hr to only 120c/hr, amirite?

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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is this guy still really going off

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sir ur using the same logic u were accusing me of using

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:45 AM

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not quite, I'm actually providing evidence. but as they say... if you can't beat 'em, join 'em

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I mean, obviously you don't understand actual statistics, so I figure provable anecdotal evidence would work better on a mind like that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:46 AM

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i do understand statistics better than u

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i run a stats site

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rofl

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i ddont feel the need to go through the labor

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i'm just trying to have fun playing a game

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and not having fun cuz the drops were clearly lowered

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based on how it was feeling before

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 AM

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ooo

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a guy trying to earn validation by sayin he runs a stats site

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and then sayin "on how it was feeling before"

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big oof

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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cringing real hard

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at u right now

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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only when white named plebs are around kek

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😄

ruby dew Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Le sigh.

south plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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decided to do a grand heist. the door at the end is just stuck closed, won't open.

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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yep

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its a bug

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would be fixed soon

south plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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this league could be fun if things just worked 😦

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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i thought they fixed knockback

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im still glitching mobs into the wall

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with blast rain

south plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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that just killed it for me. maybe in a month it will all be sorted out.

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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the league has a gazillion mechanics

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bugs are normal

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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did they fix abyss not finishing

south plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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maybe they should consider doing public tests if they're going to get extra creative.

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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^

south plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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it could help smooth the transitions

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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knocking mobs into walls is a serious bug to have several years into a game existing

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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then u lose the whole suprise and excitement element

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that comes with a new league

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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that's collision detection/resolution

south plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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yes, it spoils the league a bit, but might be worth it now and then

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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people are goin crazy over lockpicking contract

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 6:53 AM

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currency chests right ?

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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yeah

cedar plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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yeah, and trying to get karst to lvl 5 asap

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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it's like 7-9c per

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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running so many heists lol

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done like 30 today

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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i might making money more buy selling these contract haha

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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7-9c is conservative tbh I think

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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gotta do lockpicking to get the dolars

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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how you get that many ?

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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that one I posted up a little bit ago was a lockpicking one, and that came out to about 15-20c or so

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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lockpicking is like the one the still gives money

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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what about delve chest and stuff ?

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yeah but the currency will out money the other chest

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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juiced mapping probably still much better currency

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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demolition is still great too, and engineering if you get map chests

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 6:56 AM

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i still learn how to mapping correctly

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i can't really sustain my map

cedar plover Sep 23, 2020, 6:56 AM

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heist drops so much random shit every run i spend so mcuh time emptying my quad tab

astral badger Sep 23, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Is there a consensus on which rogues and contracts are the best to run?

cedar plover Sep 23, 2020, 7:04 AM

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karst/nenet/tullina

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are the big 3 rogues

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Lockpicking is definitely the most popular contract currently

astral badger Sep 23, 2020, 7:05 AM

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Is the chest rewards tied to the Rogues or the Heist layout/rogue requirement?

valid compass Sep 23, 2020, 7:05 AM

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how do you unlock/get the item for new inventory slot?

astral badger Sep 23, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Get a grand heist which drops the trinket is how I got it

valid compass Sep 23, 2020, 7:06 AM

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grand heist.... lmao i still havent done one

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because they are all bugged

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cant open the damn doors >.>

astral badger Sep 23, 2020, 7:06 AM

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I ran a couple safely, but YMMV

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They were level 30 tho LOL. I kept postponing because of bugs

frigid venture Sep 23, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Do incubators drop their items as contraband when you're in a heist?

main epoch Sep 23, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Is the "Tasteful" prefix just a mod that does nothing?

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copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 7:20 AM

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visual bug

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you can see those mods in poedb

barren crescent Sep 23, 2020, 7:20 AM

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There was some mods that don't show up on description.

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 7:20 AM

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most are quantity

barren crescent Sep 23, 2020, 7:21 AM

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So wait why there are like 50 different new categories of items

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Or is it just the 3 item slots on rogue for gear - tool - cloak

still mural Sep 23, 2020, 7:24 AM

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brooch; 4 slots

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and there's multiple different items which can go in each slot

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and also trinkets

barren crescent Sep 23, 2020, 7:27 AM

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dunno haven't unlocked trinket slot yet

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I guess I haven't yet gotten one

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done 3 grand heists and quite a lot of contracts

short canopy Sep 23, 2020, 7:35 AM

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what's the best agent to level up first

pseudo hull Sep 23, 2020, 7:36 AM

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lockpicker maybe

somber bison Sep 23, 2020, 7:37 AM

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If a heist equipment has like 20% melee damage, is that only for that heist member or for us too?

rigid stream Sep 23, 2020, 7:41 AM

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The member

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If it affects you it tells you

languid meteor Sep 23, 2020, 7:45 AM

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I've got a question about heists... Should we be just running them like blighted maps (White)?

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All their loot is from boxes

molten flower Sep 23, 2020, 7:54 AM

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You shouldnt do heist for now

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this is a blueprint

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with alternative quality gems

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bugged door on both wings

still mural Sep 23, 2020, 7:55 AM

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nothing wrong with doing contracts

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but yeah, save the grand heists/blueprints till they fix the two main bugs with em

molten flower Sep 23, 2020, 7:55 AM

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it can bug the contracts aswell

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im pretty sure

somber bison Sep 23, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Look at me, I get blue prints

still mural Sep 23, 2020, 7:55 AM

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not that I know of

somber bison Sep 23, 2020, 7:55 AM

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I'm level 78 with 0 blue prints

molten flower Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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idk i fukin love the mechanic i would just play this for over a month

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but with those bug i wanna actually quit

languid meteor Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 AM

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wah

still mural Sep 23, 2020, 7:57 AM

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so put it down until they fix em 🤷

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won't be long

molten flower Sep 23, 2020, 7:57 AM

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i agree but this is stupid isnt it?

still mural Sep 23, 2020, 7:58 AM

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it's how every league launch goes

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there's always some bugs that they didn't catch

vapid escarp Sep 23, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Is the "#% for Regal Orbs to drop as Exalted Orbs" the best trinket mod?

cobalt falcon Sep 23, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Some source say its only the deception last door is bugged

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Can someone confirm

still mural Sep 23, 2020, 8:07 AM

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I'm pretty sure that's not true

cobalt falcon Sep 23, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Ah.. gran heist is so rewarding, sad cant do it

gleaming bolt Sep 23, 2020, 8:16 AM

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they nerfed heist way too much

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it's snoozefest now

torpid quail Sep 23, 2020, 8:18 AM

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one of my heist members seems to have just... vanished?

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so its now incompletable

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they're still using dialogue lines

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they just don't actually exist

fallen tulip Sep 23, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Where's the cheatsheet for Heist?

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 8:37 AM

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am i just special or is killing stuff still raising the alarm level?

hybrid cosmos Sep 23, 2020, 8:38 AM

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is there a specific heist type for scarabs?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ixi8r4/heist_perk_reward_npc_cheatsheet/

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its not on the cheatsheet

pliant stream Sep 23, 2020, 8:43 AM

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nice, so the shotgun door camper, still havent been fixed, greatxD

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 8:43 AM

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they killed heist

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2 fuckin easy now

pliant stream Sep 23, 2020, 8:45 AM

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im still getting swamred by the ones behind doors if i run them alched. dont know about you:D

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 8:45 AM

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well i'm a necro

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i just open the door and they all die

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 8:45 AM

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i had one alched heist where like 95% of the mobs on the way out were behind one door

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 8:45 AM

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if theres any there.. half the time is like 3 mobs behind a door

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 8:45 AM

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fucking empty all the way to the last door

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 8:46 AM

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yeah it feels like a ghost town now

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was kind of a rush before trying to get out

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 8:47 AM

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big vinderi buff tbh

pliant stream Sep 23, 2020, 8:50 AM

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then it depends on the contract location

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i ran one alched mob lvl 75 records office crontract. and yep a dozen rare mobs behind door and shotgun. nicexD

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 8:52 AM

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i wouldnt worry too much if it was just one contract

pliant stream Sep 23, 2020, 8:54 AM

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i do think if i run the location alched again, it will be the same. i mean it was the same before patch and they said it should have been reduced. but at the doors i diddnt noticed any difference:D

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 8:59 AM

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so i ran a records office

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literally 0 locked doors on the way out and i just ran straight out without slowing down at all

pliant stream Sep 23, 2020, 9:02 AM

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i did one too and i had two doors with a bunch of em and some with just a few. ok idk, may it now really depends on how mutch juice the alched one gets

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 9:08 AM

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ok important note

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high alert heist

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got

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A LOT deadlier

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 9:09 AM

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wew, lightning floor trap in high level heists is instant death

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it does at least 25k damage i think lol

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 9:11 AM

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was wondering if that scaled with level, sometimes it pops me sometimes i can just run right across it

proven hamlet Sep 23, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Cant finish a heist because

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it doesnt show the option to use my units

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.

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on a locked door

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 9:17 AM

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yeah, it did my whole life (4400) with capped res

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so its at least around 20k

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but i also had a guard skill up lol

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so that may or may not absorb some of it (if its considered a hit)

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 9:18 AM

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@proven hamlet usually thats fixed by running a screen or two away from the door and going back to it

proven hamlet Sep 23, 2020, 9:18 AM

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yeah i tried

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@charred prism

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 9:18 AM

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ah

proven hamlet Sep 23, 2020, 9:18 AM

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i just left the heist

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 9:18 AM

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yeah the last door breaks sometimes

tame saddle Sep 23, 2020, 9:30 AM

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yeah the last door breaks sometimes thanks no rewards spent all my coins yaaaay fuckjdijsdifnsd

charred prism Sep 23, 2020, 9:31 AM

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hey bright side, regular heists are piss easy to do now so you get your coins back in no time

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 9:37 AM

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interesting item

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+5 max rage is cool

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exploding zombies of ash

frigid venture Sep 23, 2020, 10:14 AM

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can someone explain why i'm still able to roll this

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covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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because it was a hotfix and they havent gotten around to redoing all of the modifiers

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probably going to take some time

livid pecan Sep 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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that replica earandals is weird

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it wants you to spam raise zombie, basically

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since they die in 3.5 seconds

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unless it works like RF and they can mitigate through resistance

frigid venture Sep 23, 2020, 10:20 AM

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It's supposed to have good synergy with Aukuna's Will and minion instability

still mural Sep 23, 2020, 10:39 AM

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the mod is disabled as in it has no effect, not as in you can't roll it

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and yeah, it's likely they'll remove those mods with the next actual patch, or replace them with something else depending how they modify the league mechanic

velvet palm Sep 23, 2020, 10:59 AM

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@livid pecan you WANT the skellies to die

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you do some shenanigans to make their death do shit tons of damage

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it's clunky, but it melts stuff

frigid venture Sep 23, 2020, 11:07 AM

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@velvet palm replica version is zombies

velvet palm Sep 23, 2020, 11:08 AM

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same thing

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zombies probably even better

frigid venture Sep 23, 2020, 11:27 AM

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gonna be clunky without aukuna gloves

hybrid cosmos Sep 23, 2020, 12:06 PM

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how do people make so much markers?

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some people have like 100k on stock

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Not running grands

dusty cove Sep 23, 2020, 12:22 PM

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also helps farming with double marker drops trinket

torpid quail Sep 23, 2020, 12:24 PM

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got a heist chest that seems to be impossible to open?

lilac raven Sep 23, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Does it make any sense to transmute / alch contracts?

keen sundial Sep 23, 2020, 12:32 PM

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yo guys im missing nenet she is not still in my crew any ideas why is this?

livid birch Sep 23, 2020, 12:36 PM

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wait if killing no longer increases then theres 0 stealth elements left

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whats even the point

lilac raven Sep 23, 2020, 12:36 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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it does feel a bit dumb

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i can literally open all chests in contracts

livid birch Sep 23, 2020, 12:37 PM

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did they really ruin the main mechanic of a league bc some ppl complained hard enough

lilac raven Sep 23, 2020, 12:37 PM

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vaults of atziri simulator

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yepp

livid birch Sep 23, 2020, 12:37 PM

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goddamit

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oh wait i think they are going to make the alert system slightly more complex later or something

jovial sail Sep 23, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Doesn't Tulina give Nenet, run some missions with her

livid birch Sep 23, 2020, 12:41 PM

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like enemies actually having to manually ring some kind of alarm

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which is still dum but not as dum

rigid stream Sep 23, 2020, 12:43 PM

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If you Take Videri you cannot Take all chests

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You absolutely still need - alert perks or in the longer Layouts you will Run into issues

lilac raven Sep 23, 2020, 12:45 PM

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issues such as "not able to take 100% of the chests during the run" lul

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it does feel dum dum

frigid venture Sep 23, 2020, 12:48 PM

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what exactly is the mechanic behind salvo + fork?

keen sundial Sep 23, 2020, 12:48 PM

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@jovial sail thanks ill riun with tulina

keen void Sep 23, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Is there any rule how to unlock the last 2 heist follower?

soft jay Sep 23, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Newest mechanic is: "if you have good loot we will dc you and you will loose everything"

celest hound Sep 23, 2020, 1:02 PM

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I keep hearing this same argument, that Heist is now just a loot collection side area, but you could fill my inventory with mirrors and it would not matter if I get plastered trying to get out. I have no idea what OP build you all are running that makes getting out as simple as getting in.

solid lynx Sep 23, 2020, 1:03 PM

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How do you unlock more rogues? I've done all the green heists

peak terrace Sep 23, 2020, 1:03 PM

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@celest hound just dont finish the heist

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get all the chests and leave

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dont finish the contract

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izi

celest hound Sep 23, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I guess that's an option, but not really in blueprints.

arctic epoch Sep 23, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Not sure if this is a bug or not, got a item that can be equipped by Adiyah, can she be unlocked as a character?

solemn granite Sep 23, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Hey guys are those "Contracts" That seem to be quest items necessary to progress on Heist? I didn't get them on my second character which was also on a different league
Not sure if I should report it as a bug

violet nymph Sep 23, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Is there any way to fix grand heist reward room doors from not being able to be opened? the rogue ability was used and the door is still shut and wont show any prompts to open it again

distant osprey Sep 23, 2020, 1:51 PM

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is there any way to farm the quest contracts or to know how many you are missing?

brazen pulsar Sep 23, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Do I lose my grand heist portal if I leave to deposit loot?

thorny vine Sep 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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@brazen pulsar so technically you can leave, BUT theres a very high chance of being put if a different Harbor instance that doesnt have your portal. If you rejoin it enough and get back into your original instance you can reenter

ruby dew Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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so I want a vaal discipline gem. can I just pick up a level 1 discipline gem use a vaal orb on it and level it up afterwards?

midnight gale Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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devout osprey Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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yes but its not 100% chance to turn it into vaal

midnight gale Sep 23, 2020, 2:20 PM

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stuck behind door AMA

livid birch Sep 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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i once clipped through a door in lab with lw on accident

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i wonder if it works in heist

ruby dew Sep 23, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Cogblitz, can still use the gemcutter recipe on it once it reaches level 20 as a vaal gem for the 20% quality?

thorny vine Sep 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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No

devout osprey Sep 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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not on corrupted gems, no

thorny vine Sep 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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You dont need quality on your auras anyways unless you're a support or summoner

ruby dew Sep 23, 2020, 2:22 PM

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awkwardly laughs in summoner

low forum Sep 23, 2020, 2:28 PM

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10% more valuable unique items trinket is so fucking op 😄

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got carcass jack and hyrri ire zodiac armor like 5 minutes

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i mean heist chest have a 10% chance to contain more valuable uniques

upbeat urchin Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Does the amount of chests you open in a heist affect the difficulty of the escape?

restive charm Sep 23, 2020, 2:33 PM

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i thought everyone hated running vaults of atziri

thin canyon Sep 23, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I still run it but just because I've had decent luck with it

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Must be why the rest of the league hasn't given me anything at all

rustic shore Sep 23, 2020, 2:37 PM

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guys, if I die during heist, does the portal despawn?

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can I enter again my current heist?

barren crescent Sep 23, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Not if alert isnt triggered

rustic shore Sep 23, 2020, 2:40 PM

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ok, I killed all guards but then died but my portal is still there

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if I take the main obj do I have to clear the area in 20 seconds?

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I mean escape

crisp tree Sep 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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20 seconds is for lockdown, they lock doors after 20 seconds

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but you can escape anyways, just dont die

azure atlas Sep 23, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Can you heist with friends at lower levels, or does it have to be grand heists?

wraith mason Sep 23, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Sometimes I hate Reddit. I must be the only one that thought that Heists were fine,especially once you got follower equipment. Now the whole "heist" Feeling is gone, you can just loot everything. Reddit turned the new league into just another "go in and click every reward" mechanic

cyan coral Sep 23, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Reddit Driven Development at its finest. Turn every interested but not the most efficient mechanic into most efficient mechanic that is also boring as hell.

All that by complaining like a 5 year old for few days after league start.

rustic shore Sep 23, 2020, 3:01 PM

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IMO PoE is at its core an ARPG - you kill so you can kill more. Heist's idea of sneaking around defeats that purpose.

azure atlas Sep 23, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I do feel like it got trivialized to the point of no risk/all reward

spiral cosmos Sep 23, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Hey guys I just crashed in my first ever contract and it was a Green one aka mission one.

Can you still drop the same contract???

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People are claiming it forever bricks on your character forcing you to create a 2nd character just to get the specific contract to drop again. Is this true?

rustic shore Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I guess you dont have to

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I bungled a contract for karst once, then after a while it drops again

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the contract where you take his lockpicks

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im using the same char btw

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@azure atlas yeah, at this point if we died after the alert level rises, we lost all progress and items

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better if we have multiple attempts, like portals

barren ingot Sep 23, 2020, 3:21 PM

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i'm wondering why they bothered giving us another two level five contacts

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that are dupes in a existing job.

thin canyon Sep 23, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Is there a specific way to unlock more thief people? I'm missing 3. Luckily I have all my bases covered for specialties

cyan coral Sep 23, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I think it is using the ones you havent used on heist yet, and maybe more specific in role you havent used before.

north dragon Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 PM

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always use the people you just unlock

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they will bring a friend

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 PM

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X2

north dragon Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 PM

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which you will then use that friend after that to unlock the next

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Huck unlocks someone

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Then use that someone

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Just like that

rigid idol Sep 23, 2020, 4:09 PM

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heist keep freeze and crash on gianna deception

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any solution?

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:11 PM

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😦

elfin heron Sep 23, 2020, 4:11 PM

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ugh my dudes arent bringing any new dudes

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Hmm

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I think after Nenet

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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i hope they learn and do a synthesis 2.0

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Goes the Catwoman

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Tibbs unlock the catwoman

ocean narwhal Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Nenet is unlocked by bringing tullina along iirc

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Gianna and huck give me crashes

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Ah

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Mb

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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because synthesis strongest point was its more then just fighting enemies

ocean narwhal Sep 23, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Niles is unlocked by bringing huck along

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My unlock order was Karst ->Huck ->Niles ->Vinderi ->Gianna if I remember correctly.

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and then tibbs ->Tullina ->Nenet

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:25 PM

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karts wasn't unlocked

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he was default

cyan tapir Sep 23, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Does anyone know if unique boxes have been fixed/removed from lowlevel contracts (lvl 3)? and at what level unique boxes spawn in a heist?

tired kiln Sep 23, 2020, 4:30 PM

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i ran two lvl 3 engineering yesterday no unique box behind the door, just nothing so i gave up

median lotus Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 PM

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how do you get your trinket slot unlocked?

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Is there a grand conclusion to heist story?

tender flume Sep 23, 2020, 4:48 PM

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the end bosses aren't in yet

faint pebble Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 PM

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man getting 1 shot in heists all the time feels really bad 😦

sinful trench Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 PM

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should i be using an alchemy on every contract

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@faint pebble Iwonder what its like having never built defenses

tender flume Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 PM

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if you can survive the additional mods on the monsters and have the alchemies to spare, then yes

faint pebble Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 PM

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oh you mean like capped res and as much life as I could have grabbed?

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Just use alkalizer build

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Stacking fortify

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:50 PM

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this is like the people were saying herophant should wear cloak of defiance

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That's not defenses

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your not actually getting one shot in heist.

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Shotgunned

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Most likely

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 PM

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right

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 4:51 PM

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U gotta get real defenses

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Fortify stacking is one

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Ultra THICC

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 4:52 PM

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*Multiple layers of defenses. Both Cloak of Defiance and Fortify is one but standalone they are worthless.

compact escarp Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 PM

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anyone know the fix when a Heist mission doesn't complete and the item stays in your inventory and cannot be dropped?

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the npc still has ! over their heads

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Drop the item in a map and keep playing until you find the contract again

compact escarp Sep 23, 2020, 4:54 PM

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thx

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i have 3

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Wait, you have the contracts too?

compact escarp Sep 23, 2020, 4:55 PM

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not sure

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i have a bunch

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 4:55 PM

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They are green and have the NPCs name on it. Can't be deposited.

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yeah best in slot chest peices should be fully defensive imo

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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If you do then you have to run that Contract with the item in your inventory.

compact escarp Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yes i have the contracts still

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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armor/es hases are wprthless sadly 😦

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Doing that will complete the quest.

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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because ggg refuses to rework armor

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Reworking it is a massive hassle. I wouldn't be surprised if something is done about it in PoE2

spiral cipher Sep 23, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Yeah armor got to the point its functional by itself It's just mixing with others they need to fix now so its not that big of priority

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evasion/es mixing though

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🙂

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give me some of that

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Does Whakano ever sell contracts above level 67

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 5:15 PM

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No

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 5:15 PM

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lol cool

ornate flower Sep 23, 2020, 5:34 PM

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that would defeat the purpose

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 5:38 PM

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well thats cool, 6s/5l shavs from heist

manic cape Sep 23, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Hey guys how do i get more heist rogues still need one who can open deception doors got these so far: karst, tibbs, tullina, nenet,huck and isla.

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 5:41 PM

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so +1 level does not raise skill level

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but the actual level of the character

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which is super worthless lol

rigid stream Sep 23, 2020, 5:42 PM

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job level raises the job

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you can also give your rogues lvl 25 auras

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 5:43 PM

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thats pretty sexy

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but the +1 level (general) has got to be the second most trash mod

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right behind -% alert from killing guards (now) lol

rigid stream Sep 23, 2020, 5:45 PM

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they actually deal fairly sizable dmg

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as they are always area lvl

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also they deal dmg when performing their door actions, like tibbs

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 5:46 PM

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might matter if you are low on the damage side of things?

rigid stream Sep 23, 2020, 5:47 PM

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its a bad stat, much worse than many other stats, but its far from useless

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it can go to +5 i think?

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 5:48 PM

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that would be much better

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i have only rolled +1s lol

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i feel like all you want is -alert, high level auras, maybe - cost, and probably the "allies inflict x increased blah blah blah"

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 5:50 PM

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i like 'players and their minions deal x to x increased phys'

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 5:51 PM

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yeah, basically any aura effect

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especially since grand heists let you run around with potentially like 9 aura effects

undone thorn Sep 23, 2020, 5:54 PM

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How do I unlock the heist item that my character can equip? (the one myself i mean)

covert maple Sep 23, 2020, 5:55 PM

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do a blueprint that says it contrains thief trinkets

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the recipe to open the slot on ur character is in the last room

undone thorn Sep 23, 2020, 5:56 PM

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ah I see, dont have any of those still, mabye the one my game crashed was the one

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i have yet to find one of those lol

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also my thief trinket slot on my character vanished XD

drowsy seal Sep 23, 2020, 6:04 PM

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so if my portal to the grand heist is gone, is there anything I can do to make it come back?

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:07 PM

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keep leaving and going back into rogue harbor via spending tokens

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your heist is still there, you are just in the wrong instance

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known bug they are trying to fix atm

violet nymph Sep 23, 2020, 6:20 PM

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how do you enchant body armors guys

devout osprey Sep 23, 2020, 6:20 PM

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u cant, its dropped from heist

violet nymph Sep 23, 2020, 6:21 PM

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then how are people getting enchanted lorewaves

devout osprey Sep 23, 2020, 6:21 PM

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wait what

karmic bay Sep 23, 2020, 6:22 PM

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So is there really no way to leave and bank from grand heists ?

violet nymph Sep 23, 2020, 6:22 PM

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https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Heist/Q2Zw32RHw

Path of Exile

Trade - Path of Exile

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

lean lark Sep 23, 2020, 6:29 PM

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can someone explain the passive that gives curses have +4 doom

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is that to initial? or per second?

torpid sonnet Sep 23, 2020, 6:32 PM

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initial

lean lark Sep 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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is the normal initial zero?

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either way that seems like not enough to make a difference with anything?

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:44 PM

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man, floor traps have got to go

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there is no way to get through some doors when the mage dudes set up like 30 of them

spice cipher Sep 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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thus why im not heisting till they fix it lol the traps are ridic, had an entire room covered , no where to walk or dash without triggering them

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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The net traps?

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:45 PM

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oh, im still running, super profitable even with the high rips

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nah, the ones that are blue spell circles

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i think its in the mansion?

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the lightning mages cast them

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sometimes they set up like 30 of them on the doorway lol

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so even if you dash through they all go off and you rip

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i think you might be okay with a teleport skill

spice cipher Sep 23, 2020, 6:46 PM

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all the traps, net ones lightning ones all of them

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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net ones can at least be disabled

spice cipher Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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not if your npc bugs out lol

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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oh, those traps

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im talking about the ones done by enemies

spice cipher Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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im just having a lot of buggy issues atm so rather wait

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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yeah, there are some serious bugs

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but some enemies leave floor traps (mechanical spiders and lightning mages)

spice cipher Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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some of my friends are fine tho so its hit n miss i guess

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:47 PM

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the spider ones can be waited out, but happen when you kill them, so its super rippy

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the lightning mage ones place circles on the floor that you can just ignore

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but when escaping, sometimes they pile a ton of them up on a doorway

spice cipher Sep 23, 2020, 6:48 PM

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oh those spiders suck ass

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 6:48 PM

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yeah, the lightning mages are basically the same, except they do it in advance

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and they have an infinite duration

mighty meteor Sep 23, 2020, 6:53 PM

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you just gonna stand there?

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dusk pivot Sep 23, 2020, 6:59 PM

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can I leave grand heists inbetween wings?

toxic pine Sep 23, 2020, 7:00 PM

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you're supposed to be able to but there's a bug that places you in a different instance of the harbor, and if that happens you lose your portal

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so, no, don't risk it

dusk pivot Sep 23, 2020, 7:00 PM

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ty

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Don’t risk it

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I ripped my portal

rigid idol Sep 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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is it a bug

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i can't open the door

toxic pine Sep 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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yes, that is a known bug

rigid idol Sep 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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welp rip grand heist

toxic pine Sep 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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i would recommend just not doing grand heists at all right now

brazen flicker Sep 23, 2020, 7:02 PM

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LOL

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POOR GUY

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Also map achievement on heist seems bugged too

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Same as some encounters

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I want my huck helmet

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😭

dusk pivot Sep 23, 2020, 7:08 PM

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how do you get reveals?

copper kernel Sep 23, 2020, 7:09 PM

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by doing normal heists

rigid idol Sep 23, 2020, 7:14 PM

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2nd wing didn't even have the door

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like the first wing

sleek dew Sep 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I wonder what they are gonna add to pre-alarm part of heist more exciting, what do you guys think they could do?

pure chasm Sep 23, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Anyone else not dropping blueprints at all ?

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 7:39 PM

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interesting

rigid idol Sep 23, 2020, 7:46 PM

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hello guys i have this and unlock 7 watchstones already and still can't get the contract quest to drop to finish the quest (i failed the quest before)

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valid thunder Sep 23, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Has the alert been changed again?
I was in a standard Heist watching my alert bar slowly increase when i wasnt moving / opening any chests / killing anything - i didnt see a more recent update, so sorry if this is already covered somewhere!?

craggy cedar Sep 23, 2020, 7:53 PM

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jmpuLz, there are some mods on either heist map or on trinkets that does increase alert every # seconds.. Just check closer on both of them before running

valid thunder Sep 23, 2020, 7:54 PM

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i see, thanks @craggy cedar - you are right, i didnt check beforehand, just transmute & go... 🙂

craggy cedar Sep 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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np dude, if speed isnt ur problems then u dont need to worry about it.. I did run a map with that mod on, just had to be even more faster 😂

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@rigid idol Go into any non-town area (the delve lobby works fine) and drop the item there

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You can pick it back up from Tully when you find the contract again

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Also, the contracts drop from the heist chests. Make sure you're opening those when you find them

spice cipher Sep 23, 2020, 7:59 PM

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they are super rare rn tho

rigid idol Sep 23, 2020, 8:17 PM

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@next epoch tysm

heady vigil Sep 23, 2020, 8:22 PM

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these heist changes suck

terse quartz Sep 23, 2020, 8:30 PM

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how do you get a quest to drop to increase the skill level for a rogue?

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rng?

heady vigil Sep 23, 2020, 8:30 PM

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i think its pure rng

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 8:31 PM

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RNG, typically from the little heist chests in world/map areas in my experience

terse quartz Sep 23, 2020, 8:31 PM

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do you need to have the skill maxed ?

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sitting at so many 100% skill bars ...

heady vigil Sep 23, 2020, 8:36 PM

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i realy dont like this alert level change

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i can basically loot/kill everything and still the alert wont trigger

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its now just a linear map where you have to backtrack to your entrance portal

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i'd rather have them fix the bug where the thief refuses to unlock the door and just spazzes out

sleek dew Sep 23, 2020, 8:38 PM

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eh previous option was not better, kite monsters in a circle while npc open doors

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they should just rework the first part of heists

heady vigil Sep 23, 2020, 8:39 PM

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yeah like patrols with like detection circles

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like the one in the robot one

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the floaty droid thingie that turns the robots online

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 8:39 PM

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or like bells/alarms that mobs need to go to and use to raise the alert level, and if you aggro guards you have to kill them before they can activate it

languid river Sep 23, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Okay so. I am in grand heist, full inventory. 2 wings left. What to do?

heady vigil Sep 23, 2020, 8:40 PM

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drop useless garbage

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like this new alert system is just so blah and boring

toxic pine Sep 23, 2020, 8:47 PM

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it was boring before, it's boring now

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the entire part before you grab the relic is just poorly conceived in general

weary crater Sep 23, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I am once again asking if the grand heist doors are fixed

light jay Sep 23, 2020, 9:10 PM

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They never were broken for me

unique forge Sep 23, 2020, 9:40 PM

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How do you generate reveals? It seems like I'm meeting the conditions but not generating any reveals for Gianna

round flower Sep 23, 2020, 9:41 PM

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is it worth it to alch contracts?

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seems like 99% of loot is from chests, but I don't know how they are affected by the rolls

wanton rivet Sep 23, 2020, 9:57 PM

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yes alch them

fiery summit Sep 23, 2020, 9:59 PM

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how can i lvl up a companion past lvl3? only with grand heists?

round flower Sep 23, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@fiery summit you may be capped on that job for that person

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https://i.imgur.com/HN2vAX7.png

Imgur

spiral cosmos Sep 23, 2020, 10:06 PM

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This should be posted in the cheat sheet channel xd

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 10:06 PM

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chaos damage ignites

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woo

fiery summit Sep 23, 2020, 10:07 PM

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ok so lets say tullina agility can be lvl 5, so i just do more lvl3 contracts for her an she gets exp torwards lvl5

round flower Sep 23, 2020, 10:08 PM

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completing heists of that type levels that skill yes

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pretty big jump in exp needed to hit 5 I think

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I feel like a better way of representing the combination of skills and NPCs would be a grid

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since right now every chart I've seen makes it difficult to see at a glance either 1) who has skill X or 2) what skills does person Y have and what are their limits

sand bone Sep 23, 2020, 10:10 PM

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For unlocking new members does a specific person unlock a new one or can I just keep running random heists?

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 10:10 PM

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It's specific people.

sand bone Sep 23, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Is there a list/guide somewhere?

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 10:12 PM

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this is... interesting

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there are some fun items

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 10:21 PM

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another infographic for heist NPC skills

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lofty spear Sep 23, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Is gianna bugged for anyone else? Just did like 10 contracts on her and didnt get a single reveal

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 10:25 PM

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thoughts?

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 10:25 PM

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structure worth noting: there is exactly one NPC with a 5 in each skill, and every NPC is a 5 in one skill except Vinderi who gets two because he's awesome and Huck who has none because he sucks

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 10:26 PM

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^

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thinking im just gonna leave, dropped an exalt

lofty spear Sep 23, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Worth

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 10:27 PM

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and a 6l oro's sacrifice lol

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win for this grand heist

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gloves that can ignite with chaos damage

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an ex

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a 6l oro's

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i feel like the ignite w/ chaos damage gloves could make a fun af build

cosmic anvil Sep 23, 2020, 10:52 PM

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just confirming.. if you leave an INCOMPLETE heist with contraband loot.. you keep it, right?

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 10:52 PM

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yes

cosmic anvil Sep 23, 2020, 10:52 PM

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my first Ex drop of league and im just not willing to risk it.. lol

shy lance Sep 23, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Smart choice. Just bank it. The heist target isn't worth it and chances on getting anything better is low

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yeah, i did the same with an ex i found

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very much worth just upping and leaving

dense mauve Sep 23, 2020, 11:30 PM

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omg some guys are caped at 3 that explain so much

valid isle Sep 23, 2020, 11:32 PM

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yep

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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you don't need to abandon the heist to keep the loot, as soon as you're back in the lobby the Contraband tag is removed

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if the lockdown hasn't started you can then go back in and continue getting more contraband loot, and still keep the stuff that had the tag removed if you die/fail

distant osprey Sep 23, 2020, 11:51 PM

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whats the point of revealing more wings in a blueprint rather than just running another blueprint?

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like if i have a bunch of blueprints should i just run them with 1 wing revealed?

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 11:52 PM

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ideally you'd be able to stash between wings and thus get more overall loot from a single blueprint (which drop rarely enough as it is) but the portal is glitched or something right now I think

tardy edge Sep 23, 2020, 11:53 PM

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what's the quickest way to pick up quest contracts once i'm in maps?

distant osprey Sep 23, 2020, 11:56 PM

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so i guess for now unless oyure short on blueprints you should just chain run them?

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unrevealed

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 11:56 PM

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depending on the contents of the wings it's definitely still worth revealing them imo

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anything that has a currency, catalyst, map, delirium, or fragment room would be well worth it

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 11:57 PM

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@still coral the portal bug should be fixed in 3.12.2

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Fixed a bug where, when returning to The Rogue Harbour from a Heist area, you could be placed in a Rogue Harbour instance that did not contain the portal to your Heist area.
-- https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2945868

Path of Exile

Announcements - 3.12.2 Patch Notes Preview - Forum - Path of Exile

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

still coral Sep 23, 2020, 11:58 PM

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ooh, I hadn't seen that post yet. that sounds great

weak jetty Sep 23, 2020, 11:58 PM

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oh boy, i love it when i run into 3 door packs at once with undying.

next epoch Sep 23, 2020, 11:59 PM

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this just got posted like 20 minutes ago

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@weak jetty also in the patch notes preview, fwiw:

Monsters in formations during Heists now stagger the timing of their attacks, such that they're not all using their attacks at the same time.

hybrid garnet Sep 24, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Anyone know where tailoring orbs drop?

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Are they grand heist only?
And if so what kind of reward?

still coral Sep 24, 2020, 12:07 AM

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I'd assume that tailoring/tempering orbs and both types of regrading lenses are most likely a single category of rare grand heist rewards - though if that is the case I don't know what that category is

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either that, or a rare curio option for the grand heist categories of enchanted weapons/armors and alt-quality gems

weak jetty Sep 24, 2020, 12:23 AM

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they've been saying that for 3 days now...

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maybe they really mean it this time

weary crater Sep 24, 2020, 12:25 AM

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patch says nothing about grand heist doors

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??

stone oriole Sep 24, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Fixed a bug where some Grand Heists could not be completed.

vernal fern Sep 24, 2020, 12:27 AM

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what in perception does trigger increase in alert level?

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literally got it to almost full before reached first big chest

stone oriole Sep 24, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Is the final door to every grand heist bugged or is it only certain locations?

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 12:30 AM

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tailoring orbs?

still coral Sep 24, 2020, 12:30 AM

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supposedly it only happens in some cases where there's a door that needs to be opened with Engineering but the grant heist didn't have an engineer on the requirements?

stone oriole Sep 24, 2020, 12:31 AM

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I'll need to double check and be careful, I found a nice blueprint, investigated all the wings and after I hired my crew I had spent about 10k marks and every single door was busted

dusk pivot Sep 24, 2020, 12:32 AM

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so I had a total of 3 wings - I've run 2, and after that I could no longer see the other entrances

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is that normal?

still coral Sep 24, 2020, 12:34 AM

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did you use an alternate escape route out of the second one?

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I've noticed that the alternate escape route room is different than the lobby, and usually drops you right on the next wing's entrance when you enter it

dusk pivot Sep 24, 2020, 12:34 AM

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yes

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ok so I've portal'd in and out of harbour until the portal reappeared

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when I went back, I could see all entrances again 😛

frigid holly Sep 24, 2020, 12:38 AM

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I have some trinkets (?) (items that 'any heist member can equip') but I canot figure out a way to give them to a hesit member/make them equip it. Where is the UI for this?

devout osprey Sep 24, 2020, 12:39 AM

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talk to them "equip items"

next epoch Sep 24, 2020, 12:40 AM

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or hit V while in rogue harbour

still coral Sep 24, 2020, 12:40 AM

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"Show Inventory" from their talk menu

frigid holly Sep 24, 2020, 12:40 AM

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where is 'their talk menu' ?

still coral Sep 24, 2020, 12:40 AM

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when you click on them to talk to them in the harbour? like any NPC?

frigid holly Sep 24, 2020, 12:41 AM

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oh - too late after I have zoned in?

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ok - zoned back out - got it now - thanks

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 1:35 AM

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they do drop 😄

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valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 1:56 AM

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got my first trinket too! and wew its sexy

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I can't find it on poedb, but is there a list of enchantments heist equipment can have some where?

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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if you have the same rogue in two different slots in a blueprint does his bonus double?

cobalt hemlock Sep 24, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Are you guys completing contracts or just looting all chests and escaping?

fathom ridge Sep 24, 2020, 2:43 AM

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completing if possible, depends on what chests spawn

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if I can open more chests if it means losing out on completing the contract I generally do that

cobalt hemlock Sep 24, 2020, 2:44 AM

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yep same

fathom ridge Sep 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

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usually I can complete the contract with all chests opened, or with missing 1-2 small chests

shell turtle Sep 24, 2020, 2:52 AM

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are grand heist still bugged?

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i can't get into the vault door

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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is it repository?

shell turtle Sep 24, 2020, 2:54 AM

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huh? repository?

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Yeah the map

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Er location

shell turtle Sep 24, 2020, 2:54 AM

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oh right

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it is actualy

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 2:55 AM

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That's the only one that's bugged atm I think

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Will be fixed with this upcoming patch

shell turtle Sep 24, 2020, 2:55 AM

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noooo

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i got some good drops

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wait i can still leave with my goodies right?

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Yeah

odd jackal Sep 24, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Question: if I have a engineer equipment that gives me +2 to levels and equip it to vinderi, does that give him +2 to the demolition he runs as well?

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 3:23 AM

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No; it gives +2 to their actual level, not skill level

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so like if you go into a lvl 60 heist, they'll be lvl 62 instead of 60

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it's a small combat boost, basically

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 3:27 AM

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im trying to decide if blood rage is worth using at all exaltThink

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seems like it would be good... but idk

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4% life damage per second sucks

ruby roost Sep 24, 2020, 3:35 AM

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can some1 explain me what the fuck is wrong with this league?

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im doing grand heist, oppening like 6/7 stashes and gettin 30% alert

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then i run through of rest and it randomly increased to 90%

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without opening anything

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 3:36 AM

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there are some traps/npcs that raise alert if you stand near/on them

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I think the records office has Observer Posts, IIRC?

ruby roost Sep 24, 2020, 3:37 AM

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like, amazing to know

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fucking cringe

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 3:37 AM

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it's not the standard zoom zoom kill everything mechanic; if you play it like it is, you won't do as well 🤷

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they said that from the outset

ruby roost Sep 24, 2020, 3:38 AM

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first wing reward lost due to bugged last doors, second wing reward lost due to random 60% alert jump xD

brave wagon Sep 24, 2020, 3:39 AM

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What is the different between lvl 4 and lvl 5

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On heist characters

ruby roost Sep 24, 2020, 3:40 AM

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more bugs

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 3:40 AM

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faster at their skill (except agility, apparently?), more effective rogue passive/perk/thing

brave wagon Sep 24, 2020, 3:40 AM

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What about the maps themselves

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I havrnt been getting many more drops

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 3:40 AM

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not sure if the higher level requirement gives better drops or not

brave wagon Sep 24, 2020, 3:41 AM

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I have lvl 5 lockpicker but still

kindred dragon Sep 24, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I find that if I kill one of the big dog (greatboy i think), it'll raise the alert up as well

wind sundial Sep 24, 2020, 4:12 AM

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'Fixed a bug where, when returning to The Rogue Harbour from a Heist area, you could be placed in a Rogue Harbour instance that did not contain the portal to your Heist area.'

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ey fellas

odd jackal Sep 24, 2020, 4:12 AM

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@still mural Ty for clearing that up about the +levels mod

wind sundial Sep 24, 2020, 4:12 AM

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we'll be able to loot and go back and then keep looting

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hooray

short canopy Sep 24, 2020, 4:15 AM

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so they are making heist easier and added more type of reward

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hmm

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 4:21 AM

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rewards thing is possibly a buff (adding more types to Deception & Brute Force) and possibly a nerf (adding more types to Currency)

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the lvl 68+ only changes are definitely a reason to run your <68 contracts now

short canopy Sep 24, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Breach, Harbinger, Delirium and Legion rewards now require level 68 or higher before they can be found as Chest Rewards.
lvl 67 be like all talismans

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feelsbadman

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 4:25 AM

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RIP

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cant wait for the patch

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these floor traps suck lol

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even with the money being good, i hate dashing through the door and 100-0 instantly even with super tank

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I mean. maybe don't dash into traps, lol

short canopy Sep 24, 2020, 4:26 AM

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lol

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yeah we'll have to see the new reward

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seem like we still can just leave with all our loot without trigger the alarm

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 4:29 AM

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there isnt any way around them, Sora

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its the mansion lightning traps cast by the mages at the doorway

still coral Sep 24, 2020, 4:30 AM

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just get max block, max spellblock, and a 20% chance to recharge 60% of your EHP a second when you block and the floor traps and lasers are no problem

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 4:30 AM

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they have an infinite duration

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so you eventually have to try and cross lol

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and atm the will all cast them at the same time so depending on how the alert guage was, there are like 20+ traps right at the door lol

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(that is why they are nerfing them though)

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Ahh, I see

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I thought you were talking about the trapped hallways that need trap disarming 😄

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 4:32 AM

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oh, nope, those are easy

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yeah, the lightning mages who lay these spell circle things are fuckers lol

magic jackal Sep 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I cannot find the Deception NPC for Heist, I can't do ANY mission because I havent found the NPC, how do I do it? I'm level 81 and have done like 40 contracts and got nothing

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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you get new rogues by running missions with your rogues (the ones who haven't already given you a new rogue)

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specifically skill level 1 missions, I think

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and the tileset may matter as well; not sure

magic jackal Sep 24, 2020, 4:47 AM

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gotcha

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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IIRC I got Gianna (the main deception rogue) from running with Vinderi

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Niles is the other deception rogue, and I forget who I got him from... Huck, maybe?

magic jackal Sep 24, 2020, 4:58 AM

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roger, ty

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Nice, just did my first grand heist and didn't get squat. I finished the first wing and dropped my stuff off in the main area and went to the next wing and my alarm level went up without me opening anything so I had to escape. And it put me in a different area and I couldn't go to the 3rd wing.

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:03 AM

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you may have stepped on an alarm trap, or stood near an alarm NPC (there's Observation Posts in bunker/records office, IIRC, which boost alarm by a lot if you stand near them for long)

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:03 AM

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yeah

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there are also totems somewhere that do the same thing

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forget which map type

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Smugglers Den

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I was wondering about that, I couldn't shoot them

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:03 AM

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yeah, they look like shockwave totems?

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Yeah

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So you're just supposed to run and kill quickly then huh

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That's so dumb, why wouldn't you be able to kill them

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:05 AM

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You can kill the observation posts, they're just tanky

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:05 AM

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sometimes you cant target them, not sure why

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bug or something

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:05 AM

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haven't encountered the others yet so idk about them

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but with as tanky as they were when I saw them, it's definitely easier/better to just run through that room real fast once you notice they're there

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Yeah I'm using splitting steel and it wouldn't target them

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:06 AM

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yeah, the observation ones you need to get close to to target them, for w/e reason

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the shockwave ones im not sure why, some i can target, others i cant

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:07 AM

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And still dumb that it put me in a different area and so lost out on my 3rd wing, though I know they are fixing that in the next patch

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:07 AM

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yeah, that's maddening

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and a good reason to not do your grand heists until they fix it

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Yeah I have a 2nd grand heist but it's for repository and I know that map is fucked too

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But I wanted to try this one in case they change how the alarms work again since it's all basically like free stuff

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:11 AM

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im thankful none of my GH's have bugged

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the loot has been amazing

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Halfway tempted to buy one for a few c, but not sure if I can afford another grand heist lol

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:16 AM

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i only reveal wings

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i dont bother with anything else

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:18 AM

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you can press alt while hovering over the blueprint to see what reward rooms could be revealed, fwiw

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:18 AM

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So you go just for the final items then Eternal?

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:19 AM

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yeah

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there is some amazing stuff at the end

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got a stack of gemcutters, an exalt

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:19 AM

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And I reveled the treasure rooms before and there were like 2 big chests in each room, there's no way I could open them all without setting off the alarm lol

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:19 AM

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a 6l oro's sacrifice in a safe lol

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the unique new item for the player

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or unique new slot, trinket, thingy

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Yeah, i got that

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:20 AM

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also got this cool belt

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wish it had more +life but it does a great job keeping me alive

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:20 AM

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How much is it to reveal the wings? Like 2k each right?

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:20 AM

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it varies, but something like that, yeah

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:22 AM

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but yeah, open all the small chests everywhere

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and then only worry about large currency/div chests

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and then final rooms

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:23 AM

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What type of location would you suggest me to try?

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I'm not doing smugglers den again or repository lol

arctic dirge Sep 24, 2020, 5:24 AM

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is this where I report bugs lol?

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:25 AM

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no lol

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This is where we bitch about them

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:25 AM

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honestly, any location is as good as the next i find

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:25 AM

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nah, do /bugreport (I think? or just /bug) and then take a screenshot and post it in the bug report forums

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:25 AM

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except the mansion can go fuck itself lol

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the lightning mages are awful

arctic dirge Sep 24, 2020, 5:25 AM

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my last door got bugged for a grand heist 2 times in a row

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kinda triggered lol

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:26 AM

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that's known

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and being fixed

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Yup

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I didn't even realize there was a heist target line

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:28 AM

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eh?

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:29 AM

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What the end items are

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 5:32 AM

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oh, like on a blueprint, gotcha

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Is there a way to see what the rooms are via poe trade by chance?

hot gyro Sep 24, 2020, 5:45 AM

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are heist spectre viable ? when yes wich one ?

next epoch Sep 24, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Heist spectres aren't raiseable yet.

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:54 AM

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drat, did my first GH that had pure crap rewards

dense zodiac Sep 24, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Does anyone know how to deal with Observer Totems in Perception jobs? They're usually in tiny corridors so running past them fills like 30% of alert bar, even when phasing... I tried killing them but totems and Hexblast don't mesh well together

copper kernel Sep 24, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Theyre not attackable

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If you run past them they generate less alert lvl

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Havent seen any way to avoid it

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 5:57 AM

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if you go up real close to them

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you can attack them

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and they die in 1-2 hits

dense zodiac Sep 24, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Yep you can kill them but while doing so 4 other totems are raising alert, so it's not really viable either

quaint echo Sep 24, 2020, 6:09 AM

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the lockpicking mini nerf is only after patch is deployed right

somber bison Sep 24, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Oooh, my repository grand heist has 3 currency rooms

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 6:28 AM

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what mini-nerf? @quaint echo

queen blaze Sep 24, 2020, 6:31 AM

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if I want to make sure I dont lose my items, do I need to completely leave the heist? or just go back to the starting room?

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 6:35 AM

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starting room, assuming you're not hardcore

shell turtle Sep 24, 2020, 6:59 AM

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how do you get something with "deception" skill for heist?

main epoch Sep 24, 2020, 7:02 AM

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So how do you deal with the totems that raise alert level super fast? Just run past them and hope they don't "see" you more than 3 times as you run by?

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 7:15 AM

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pretty much, yeah @main epoch

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contracts have random skills associated with them, so just get more contracts, from drops, smuggler's caches, or buy em from Whakano at the harbor @shell turtle

lost trench Sep 24, 2020, 7:19 AM

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when doing a grand heist, do i have to reveal item rooms to make them accessible? to be able to loot them?

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 7:19 AM

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yes

valid isle Sep 24, 2020, 7:22 AM

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even when i win, i cant help but think the eternal lab is pure cancer

sullen scroll Sep 24, 2020, 7:35 AM

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with curse rework does this mean i can put hex + mark on a single enemy or still limited to 1?

main epoch Sep 24, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Marks are still curses, there is just a distinction between the two now for other purposes

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So still limited to 1 (plus extra curse items/passives)

signal imp Sep 24, 2020, 7:39 AM

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anybody knows why my heist members are stuck at level 3?

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for their skills

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some are stuck at level 2

shut shadow Sep 24, 2020, 7:41 AM

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guys

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does this not work

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it doesnt actually give me +1 level

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 7:44 AM

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@signal imp each rogue has their skills capped at different levels; only one of their skills can go all the way to 5

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see the image in #guides-archive

serene wing Sep 24, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Is there a reason I cannot break this curio display?

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the glass cracks then unable to click anymore

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Anyone able to provide an answer before I have to just give up on this map

eager terrace Sep 24, 2020, 8:02 AM

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never seen that... will it refuse to break if you don't have the space to pick up the artifact maybe?

sullen scroll Sep 24, 2020, 8:08 AM

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anybody know whats the thing that lets us get 40% quality gems?

serene wing Sep 24, 2020, 8:18 AM

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@eager terrace I made sure there was space, but the relic drops on the ground after breaking anyways so I do not see why It should matter about invenotyr

eager terrace Sep 24, 2020, 8:19 AM

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dunno mate never had it happen

heady pier Sep 24, 2020, 8:21 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/X27lhRv.jpg

Imgur

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guess im stuck?

serene wing Sep 24, 2020, 8:23 AM

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hm?

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If you click to open it and it just stops. Run away a bit then go back

heady pier Sep 24, 2020, 8:26 AM

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did all

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even reentered

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lol

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second door also glitched

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button gone, still locked

bleak crypt Sep 24, 2020, 8:30 AM

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does somebody know what the quest heists are for. the green ones

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they dont have good loot or anything

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 8:31 AM

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story, rogue xp, and probably progress towards the heist bosses but I'm not certain on that

bleak crypt Sep 24, 2020, 8:32 AM

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wait heist bosses

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didnt hear about that

copper kernel Sep 24, 2020, 8:34 AM

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repository is a bugged layout

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avoid until patch

worthy nimbus Sep 24, 2020, 8:34 AM

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with the latest changes to grand heists, can you no longer leave to stash between wings?

sullen scroll Sep 24, 2020, 8:35 AM

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i failed one of my isla green contracts can i farm the contract anywhere or in specific level zones?

livid escarp Sep 24, 2020, 8:35 AM

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they just drop from the smuggler's caches regardless of zone

still mural Sep 24, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Currently you can, but there's a bug where it may send you to a different instance of the harbor, which means your portal to go back in won't be there; you can try leaving and re-entering to get back into your instance

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@worthy nimbus

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the next patch planned should fix that bug, though, and you'll be able to leave & re-enter grand heists without a problem

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 9:53 AM

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do specific types of blueprints offer specific end rewards?

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i havent seen any alternate gems yet

balmy imp Sep 24, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Ye they do

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 10:00 AM

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which ones give the alternate gems?

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and which ones give trinkets?

balmy imp Sep 24, 2020, 10:02 AM

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It says on the blueprint what they reward in the end

polar marlin Sep 24, 2020, 10:05 AM

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anyone can give me a tip, to not get oneshot at doors when the alarm went off?

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7k hp, 50% phys reduction. 1.5k life regen chieftain

balmy imp Sep 24, 2020, 10:11 AM

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If you got event one link over, use the new void sphere spell. It saves me a lot in My poison bv

polar marlin Sep 24, 2020, 10:16 AM

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once they activate im dead. and before activation i cant attack them , even with void sphere

twilit mulch Sep 24, 2020, 10:16 AM

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@polar marlin put a totem in the door to bait their shots before going through

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works every time for me

polar marlin Sep 24, 2020, 10:16 AM

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gotta try that out

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whats the tankiest totem? decoy?

twilit mulch Sep 24, 2020, 10:16 AM

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let me know how it goes. you may have to wait for the door to fully open and place it a bit past the door way into the other room

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idk i just throw my ancestral warchief. to soak/bait the original 40 shots at once attack. then dash through them unscathed

crimson kite Sep 24, 2020, 10:39 AM

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oh wow

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nice that they fixed the "YOU HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED" while doing heists

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oh they didn't that's right

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the only time I ever try to do a heist I get fucking disconnected

mighty meteor Sep 24, 2020, 10:40 AM

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holy shit!

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twilit mulch Sep 24, 2020, 10:40 AM

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good boi 🙂

mighty meteor Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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twilit mulch Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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you may be able to spectre him in the next patch

mighty meteor Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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it's a unique enemy

twilit mulch Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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oh true

mighty meteor Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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not a boss though

twilit mulch Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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there's the small ones though

hot gyro Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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but it exit a smaller doggo

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exust*

mighty meteor Sep 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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that's probably the largest none boss enemy in the game, and on a large scale of bosses

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quick question. Many of my heist members have reached levels 2 and 3 but aren't getting any more xp and is at 100% xp for their current level. why is this?

fallow veldt Sep 24, 2020, 11:02 AM

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What is Ring's Cut ?

honest sonnet Sep 24, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I have a question abouts reveales for grand heists: how do i get them? i have done 60+ contracts the last to days and both the barber and the interrogator have 0.

mighty meteor Sep 24, 2020, 11:09 AM

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@fallow veldt My guess is the "Ring" is the masterminds behind discovering the heist location, figuring out the inside and outside, what kind of threat level you are dealing with and putting it all down on paper, thus forming the contract you see on the scroll or contract. The people you hire are simply people experienced with the task that the "Ring" has discovered is inside the heist location

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Planned robberies take a lot of effort, you need experienced people to go undercover, hack in and do all sorts of things without getting caught so that the info can be brought to the criminals attention so that they can form a planned heist. this means a great cut will likely go to those people who did all the behind the scenes stuff. Smaller groups or the heist members can do the same thing but with lesser success and more risk

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But yeah, i don't know all this for a fact, it is only an assumption from limited exposure during games and youtube

fallow veldt Sep 24, 2020, 11:57 AM

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So more rings = better heist ?

astral mesa Sep 24, 2020, 12:14 PM

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does n e one know if replica items will work with being a part of recipe crafting?

wild sphinx Sep 24, 2020, 12:23 PM

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When you are too strong and he jumps into the water😆

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mystic bay Sep 24, 2020, 12:32 PM

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do rogues npc lvl up beyond lvl2, or the only way to go further are items? with possibly max lvl 5?

devout osprey Sep 24, 2020, 1:20 PM

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https://poedb.tw/us/Heist#NPCs

PoEDB

PoEDB provides new things come out each league, as well as unreleased skills or MTX, as all of the information is directly datamined from the game itself.

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short answer yes, but some have skills capped at lvl 2

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 1:21 PM

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if you have the same rogue in 2 slots in a grand heist does his bonus double?

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Anyone know the drop rate for blueprints? I'm at endgame mapping, have been actively heisting, and I've only found one.y fiance same thing and he only found two

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if you have the same rogue in 2 slots in a grand heist does his bonus double?
@distant osprey in my experience no, they don't stack. Each wing is like it's own incursion. You enter one wing, do it, get to an extraction point that's connected to another wing, and when you enter the second (or subsequent) wing they "next 3 members" are there.

lunar knoll Sep 24, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Does the rarity of the heist contracts affect the drop rate of the chests? e.g blue or rare with mods

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Or do you guys only run them white?

rigid idol Sep 24, 2020, 1:29 PM

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is grand heist still bug?

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Does the rarity of the heist contracts affect the drop rate of the chests? e.g blue or rare with mods
@lunar knoll I've noticed a difference in quality of drops running magic/rare over vanilla. Much like regually mapping. I don't run them on white unless it's the same lvl as me. Getting one shotted with a good haul is soul crushing.

lunar knoll Sep 24, 2020, 1:30 PM

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Okay thanks

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Yea I'll look up bugs when I get to work. I'm Suuuuper disappointed that 1) caches have not been on every instance in the acts, and I have yet to see one on a map 2) blueprints are impossible to find.

I know there was a small patch to fix the Stash location in Rouge's Harbor, but didn't read it

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I'm wondering if it's a issue like harvest with drop rates. They had to fix the seed bug twice and it wasn't til second patch that it was truly fixed 🙄

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 1:35 PM

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ffs why cant i open grand heist final doors

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they keep bugging out. super fucking frustrating

copper kernel Sep 24, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Caches arent really important overall

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Blueprints are rare, not impossible to find tbh.

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Caches arent really important overall
@copper kernel fair. I've found stuff from monster drops and opening chests, but I don't want to open every chest and kill every monster to find smth on a map

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Blueprints are rare, not impossible to find tbh.
@void wing so far the have had exalt rarity with everyone I've talked to. Given that it's a league mechanic, I expect more instances of drops.

rigid stream Sep 24, 2020, 1:46 PM

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they arent exalt rare at all

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they are not common but also not impossible to get

placid grail Sep 24, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I guess I should be saving grand heists until next patch, 3/3 fails because can't open the last door atm

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:50 PM

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they arent exalt rare at all
@rigid stream ...can you give an example of who it dropped more commonly for and where and how? Again by endgame I've found one, my fiance two, another guy lvl 86 hasn't found a single one.... Yea that's exalt rare .

rigid stream Sep 24, 2020, 1:51 PM

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i have found 2 in maps so far, but i rerolled after getting all conqs once. and like 10 during lvling on two chars combined?

cursive widget Sep 24, 2020, 1:55 PM

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wait a second

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blueprint reveals are when you can reveal MORE rooms for a blueprint?

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all ive known is you get a blueprint, go to the planning room, and run the grand heist...

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I have had 17 blueprint drops so far...

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I wish I got exalts this often templarLul

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:57 PM

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i have found 2 in maps so far, but i rerolled after getting all conqs once. and like 10 during lvling on two chars combined?
@rigid stream oh wow. So you have found quite a few. Did they drop more after you defeated the conqs?

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I have had 17 blueprint drops so far...
@void wing where, when, how have you found so many?

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Mapping, mapping and mapping.

rigid stream Sep 24, 2020, 1:57 PM

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they randomly drop from everything

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Just from monster drops?

rigid stream Sep 24, 2020, 1:58 PM

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including heists

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very rarely from caches

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I might have found mine in a heist 🤔

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I have about 34 hours played on this char, mostly leveling mapping, only started doing heists recently.

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I'm not even lvl 90.

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Hmmm well I guess I'll keep to a grind then :/ glad to know it's not a big, just discouraged that they haven't been around. Running heist contracts is getting boring honestly

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Ive sunk at least that much time into the game so far and with 1 blueprint... Heist has been underwhelming

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Wut?

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Idk what you're 'wut'-ing?

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Finding heist underwhelming.

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I get way more loot in heist than I do in maps.

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But for blueprints I'm pretty sure mapping is better, simply on acc of killing more stuff.

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Yea. Contracts are the same thing over and over again... And I mean sure you get loot, but at this point I've ran so many I'm just selling most of it. I want to do grand heists and get alternate gems, uniques, etc. Haven't seen them.

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It's just mapping again with more loot 🤷🏼‍♀️ it's the same at end game mapping

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 2:06 PM

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The system is supposed to be an endgame alternative similar to mapping.

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Much like delve.

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Ah. That's good to know. Well in that regard it is better than mapping for looting purposes. But still, running contracts for the same basic loot 🤷🏼‍♀️ the hyped alternatives and uniques are non-existent for me and that's a buzzkill.

void wing Sep 24, 2020, 2:08 PM

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You're focusing on the wrong content for what you want I feel.

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If you want to run grand heists, map for blueprints, then run contracts for reveals.

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void wing Sep 24, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Rather than running heists and not getting any blueprints.

heady pier Sep 24, 2020, 2:09 PM

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torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Oh. @void wing, that makes sense.

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I hope I see more of them in maps :/

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:13 PM

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i can't get passed this door because of the enemy on the other side... any suggestions?

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she just walks up to stand next to him

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heady pier Sep 24, 2020, 2:14 PM

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losing 83 contracts of shit like this is so painful

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:15 PM

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i think i've found a solution haha she eventually starts attacking them very slowly so i just have to wait for her to kill the rare

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its a level 74 grand heist^^

light hatch Sep 24, 2020, 2:16 PM

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@limpid dew equipping them with damage gear meta confirmed 🤦

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Ugh that suuuucks

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:16 PM

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nah that's easy mode^^

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 2:19 PM

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what blueprint type do u guys think is best for profit? im thinking replicas/new bases?

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modt of the gems seem useless. i guess certain ones are prob very valuable tho

mossy coral Sep 24, 2020, 2:20 PM

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What exactly is a grand heist? Is it just a blueprint or something else?

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 2:20 PM

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yes grand heist is blueprint

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I would think replicas if the market isn't saturated right now

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 2:21 PM

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most replicas are trash but some i83 bases seem decent

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Sure, but you will get those people who want to try a ridiculous build and shape it around a replica?

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Are alt quality gems a grand heists reward too, or are they a chest item?

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Wondering if those would be more sellable than replicas

distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 2:25 PM

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theyre a grand heist reward

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they probably are more sellable but you need to get good ones

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i havent gotten one worht more than 10c yet

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:26 PM

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you've got to be kidding with me .-. now the option to open the main door is gone

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distant osprey Sep 24, 2020, 2:26 PM

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im sure some are very valuable though

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yeah aztro that happened to me too

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:26 PM

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rip

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can i just leave with the loot that i've gotten by going back to the entrance?

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Have you opened enough chests/killed enough guys to trigger a lockdown? At that point if you leave, you should aquire the contraband.

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Not sure if you leave without a lockdown that it would be available 🤔

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:27 PM

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i've opened all of them already

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torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:28 PM

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When I've left before a lockdown, the portal remained open in Rouge's Harbor. I didn't check inventory, but I'm assuming it would still be locked.

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:28 PM

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wait wtf is this npc doing over here??

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torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Oh maybe they are stuck on smth? If you get them can you go back and the option will be there?

limpid dew Sep 24, 2020, 2:29 PM

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somehow the alert went up so i can just leave now

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besides these bugs i'm enjoying the league a LOT more when you don't have to kite enemies all the time

torn anvil Sep 24, 2020, 2:31 PM

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I've had this happen before. The rogue was out of range. I 'got' the rouge and went back to the door and suddenly the option was available to open the door