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valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:44 PM

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really?

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:44 PM

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apparently

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:44 PM

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huh

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I wouldnt think it should but alas

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I dont know if its some kind of layering modifier thing

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like it reduces them and then the chest raises them back up

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🤷

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:45 PM

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it could be, that helps though lol

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i havent found any alternate uniques

still mural Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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it sets your resists to that, regardless of your max resists

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map mods lower your max resists

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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the only things i have found in grand heists is the item i mentioned earlier, and then a crap ton of gemcutters lol

still mural Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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so yeah, loreweave bypasses that

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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so SO many gemcutters

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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so if you factor that in, its not so bad

light garden Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@valid isle how can i get good evasion and armour when i run mainly int

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i don't have enough str/dex for good armor pieces

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of those kinds

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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well, its more, you want layered defense to deal with chaos damage (unless you are wearing something to prevent bypass)

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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137 life is a good chunk of life and Ill replace it later with an explode chest

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:47 PM

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and you have low chaos res atm

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so 2k life with low chaos res will get you deleted in about 1/4th of the higher level heists

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if you have something for does not bypass you will probably be okay

light garden Sep 21, 2020, 5:47 PM

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is it realistic to cap chaos resistance? not a lot of things give that

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:48 PM

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oh, it would be okay in most of the other game content

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but there is a ton of chaos damage in heist

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@verbal crest with the adjustment to impale and the steel skills

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im curious about great old one gauntlets

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and when i use the recall skill if it kills someone lol

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:52 PM

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im just cycloning it right now to get to red maps and build some currency

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I will prob re-roll to aura stacker or some other OP build someone finds later

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:53 PM

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im enjoying splitting steel

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especially now that they fixed it

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I honestly kinda want to find a build for this

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valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:53 PM

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that said, im considering rerolling to a deadeye lol

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wow

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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5% MS per power charge seems nuts

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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thats bonkers lol

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time for dual void battery build

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with 11 power charges

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i hope heist goes main

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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they are only 3 c right now

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which seems low to me

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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a lot of the replicas are cheap

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:54 PM

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if someone finds a good build for them I think they will shoot up in price

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:55 PM

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honestly, heist seems to just pour the currency on you too

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i have like 20 20q gems already

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and way too much chaos

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for only being day 3 of the league

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and i found a lot of high end uniques

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:56 PM

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do we know all of the replicas? or are they still being discovered

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:56 PM

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still being discovered im sure

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i havent found a replica unique yet

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 5:56 PM

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once headhunter is out its out on reddit

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:56 PM

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but i found like 5 ex in good uniques from the unique chests lol

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 5:56 PM

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I am kinda hoping there is a replica ryslatha's coil

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i wonder if there will, eventually, be a replica for every unique

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i remember they showed off the replica koams already

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could be fun for a mana tank build

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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another blueprint

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I dont know man

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I drop them like crazy

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in maps

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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weird

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i have not found any in maps

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a bunch of contracts, sure

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and i had one blueprint drop in a contract which was cool

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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maybe replica loreweave MF is just coming in cluch

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dont know

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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im using a le huep of all that dropped early on

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which has given me a bunch of other shiny stuff lol

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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do trinkets affect items like replicas that are in the glass cages?

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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that said, you might be blitzing maps more quickly than i am

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Bex mentioned on the forums that the blueprints should be around 1/15 maps iirc

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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i got replica armour that was 4L and corrupted..

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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he said they tested it and 1/10 maps was too frequent

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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to be fair, even at 1/15, you dont have enough markers to do them on drop

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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oh i agree

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well, if in the other 14 maps giving contracts i might?

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i get about 800 coins per contract atm

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and each costs about 300~ to run

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so like a net of +500

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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well ya

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I just mean if you are just running blueprints

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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fair

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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if you run the contracts too im sure youo will be fine

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the markers are also very cheap

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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honestly, i think contracts should be far more likely to have blueprints drop than maps

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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you can just buy a bunch and just run the blueprints

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and prob profit still

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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i might buy blueprints, yeah

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how much are they running?

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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oh blueprints im not sure

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im talking markers

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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oh lol

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im at like 15k markers

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(shows you how few blueprints i have found)

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you know, its the one thing i wish PoE had, was a pity mechanic

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:07 PM

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thats like 1.5 blueprints lol

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:07 PM

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yeah

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but im mostly running level 67 heists

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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im just pushing for red maps right now

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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ahh, im only doing yellows atm

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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hoping that the higher level heists yeild more

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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maybe blueprint drops happen more at higher tier maps?

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i dont know if higher level heists yield more

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in regards to items anyway

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but they do yield more markers

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and im sure higher level blueprints have better options for varient uniques or gems

clear raven Sep 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Is there any heist guide worth watching?

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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im not sure there is any need for a guide

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overall heist only has like two mechanics

clear raven Sep 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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When you go to heist do you open all chests?

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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dpends

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mllWpX6pnw

YouTube

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http://poewizard.com/index.php

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▶ Play video

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Grim goes over the basics pretty well here

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:14 PM

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i only open big chests if they are unique or currency

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i open all the small chests otherwise

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i was hoping delerium chests would give orbs but so far they just have given random cluster jewels

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and diviniation card chests have been pretty bland

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honestly, big chests tend to be pretty meh

shy lance Sep 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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FYI: Don't use movement skills to try and zoom into vault when it's getting opened. It's possible to get stuck.

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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(that said, if you have the guy who can open a chest during alarm phase, you can use them to open a big chest)

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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or if they are close enough to the final room to be able to run there after triggering the alarm

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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true

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though if you trigger alarm then open the final room, the difficulty in escaping goes waaaaaay up

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the number of mobs that show up is bonkers at that point lol

shy lance Sep 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Free exp 😄

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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honestly, the best thing i had though was a grand heist with -30% alert for opening chests and -20% alert general

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and i could open every chest there was

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only ended up with like 70% alert guage after opening everything

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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is it normal to have so many heist contracts drop that you dont pick all of them? or am i just not running them enough and gonna suffer later?

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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you are just getting lucky

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id run them though, rewards are worth it

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Alright, another question

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is it worth it to give up a heist objective if i find like 2 currency big chests?

leaden storm Sep 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

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if you would otherwise fail maybe

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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probably, honestly

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the win only nets you some coins and some exp

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but those big currency chests can drop like 20+ orbs

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i had one literally give me a stack of 8 gemcutters along with some chaos/vaal/etc

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Yeah i barely run heists at all and i have 3 exalted shards and god knows how much other currency just off of the currency chests

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they seem very good

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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oh yeah, exalted shards are really common in the higher difficulty heists large currency chests

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they almost always give 1, but pretty frequently 2-4

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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What makes a heist high difficulty?

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just level?

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Does anyone know what the +N to Level mod on tools does?

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Re giving up quest objectives: if you have already maxed your companion's skill, you only get 0.5-1 chaos of rogue's coins for completing the mission.

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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yeah, the level 68+ are a different beast altogether over the level 67s

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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there is a cap on their skill?

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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yeah, the skills cap at 2/3/4/5 depending on the rogue

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the fewer the skills they have, the higher they cap at

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and every skill you level up also raises the potency of their passive ability (except one guy who has a static trait)

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:23 PM

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And the green 'quest' contracts raise their max skill

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(though I think there's a small fixed number of those.)

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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i think that they do

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but im not 100% sure of that fact

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unless they confirmed it does

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I've not seen it personally, but someone I know said that it happened to them.

teal axle Sep 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Anyone playing a summoner/minionmancer have any opinions on them in heist? I don't want to make a similar mistake I've made previous leagues choosing a build that struggles with the league mechanic.

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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(I got the green contracts done before capping anything.)

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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you cannot stealth at all with minions

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so if you plan to get many chests dont go minion

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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you can hardly stealth anyway

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most the time there are guards at doorways

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and those always aggro you

teal axle Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I just dont want to make the mistake I've made previous leagues, try and play a fun build and be horribly suboptimal for the league mechanic

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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The one map has a ton of inactive monsters, which only activate if you attack one. Minions would be noticibly bad on that map.

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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it is fine to do a summoner, honestly

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@teal axle you will get less loot early than most builds but once you level up your allies and equip them you will be fine

teal axle Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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alrightey.

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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the only map that its bad on would be as Wise said, the foundry or the mecha place, whatever its called

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but if you use allies (and gear) with -alert

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Yeah, summoning won't be horribly suboptimal, just a bit suboptimal

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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you basically will never hit alert cap

teal axle Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I havent started yet due to work/other stuff, so I was looking at Skeletons

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either that or something like Chieftain CWC

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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when do I get items for the rogues? I dont think i've found any

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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i know that once i hit the rate of around -50% alert

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i can open everything and kill all i want

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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They're a rare drop in heists.

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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and basically never hit cap

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I've gotten 1 per 5 heists or so.

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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sounds about right

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I read somewhere that the neversink filter doesn't show them well, but idk how accurate is that

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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most the gear i found though is level 5

storm crown Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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minions dont seem to aggro much at all in heist

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I'm using neversink, default. They have small text, but highlighted and drop a minimap icon.

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I always have minimap up, so they're not at all hard for me to find.

storm crown Sep 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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sneaking with 20 minions is easier then i thought

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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But if you don't use it I could see missing them

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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do you see it on semi strict/strict?

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Nope

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Just default

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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ouch

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Er

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I have not tried smei-strict/strict

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Neversink said he thought equipment drops for heist characters would be a lot more common given how many heist characters there are and how many equipment slots each of them have

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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That's what I meant to say

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I have no idea if it shows up there

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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regular shows a bit too much, might have to tweak the filter myself

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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They show up in semi-strict

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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are they easy to miss?

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I haven't missed one

oblique tundra Sep 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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BTW, I gotta say I love your avatar Rayz

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Depends on how much your zoomin

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I think Neversink will be updating his filters a bit now that he has gotten more information post-patch

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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My avatar is literally an emote ripped from here lol

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exaltThink

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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But how do you know If you missed some or not

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Because... You didnt See them marauderthinking

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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i find farming in heists to be the best way to get them

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get to the final room before escaping

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and kill until drops/exp gain stops

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then leave

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its how i got my only blueprint in a heist lol

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and most my gear for the rogues

summer cove Sep 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Are blueprints supposed to be rare?

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I have 6 but idk how hard grand heists are so i've just been saving them up

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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they are supposed to be dropped about every 1/10~1/15 maps

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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POG

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I just won an elder armor set from DatModz stream lol

obsidian marlin Sep 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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anyone think ggg gonna speed up heists some? get rid of the waiting?

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I've been trying to buy blueprints but they seem to be sold as soon as they are posted

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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they might improve the drop rate a bit but thats about it i suspect

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the heists themselves are short as hell

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only about 5 minutes tops

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I hope they increase the drop rate for them 🙂 Regular heists are kinda boring and grand heists are rare so it's like I'm not even in a new league

tropic isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Hey does anybody know how to get more reveals for blueprints?

clear raven Sep 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

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I just hope they introduce smth to low the alert level

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Gianna has blueprint reveals as a reward for completing a heist mission with her, I think

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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you need to complete heists that are of a similar tier of the blueprint, i think

tropic isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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oh so the reaveals are not global?

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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i dont think so

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or, alternatively, they are bugged

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lol

tropic isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

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haha ^^

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okay thx for the info! 🙂

north crow Sep 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I'll try the stay in heist till drops stop

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Haven't seen a blueprint yet so might be a good way to get one

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

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yeah, you get a lot of stuff farming right at the room before escaping

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and it makes it easy to run away and leave if it gets a bit too hot

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that said, you need some extreme damage to farm level 68+ lol

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im at least at 100k dps, probably higher though with impale and all those shenanigans

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and the level 67 its easily to trash everything, the level 68+ suddenly they are so tanky i dont even do anywhere near enough damage

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(that said, i have no idea what to do to boost my damage lol)

worldly sedge Sep 21, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Can you go back to town in between grand heist wings

brazen flicker Sep 21, 2020, 7:02 PM

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Rip

sage timber Sep 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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This is the third time that when i try to unlock door of a grand heist vault it just wont help me. goin back and coming back doesn't help. and heist guys aren't fighting anyone (btw i only re wrote this since my first message got deleted and i think the reason where picture which can be a spoiler i guess?")

brazen flicker Sep 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Ultra rip

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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try running far away, Martem

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i sometimes have to move 2-3 rooms then go back

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and it like... resets your npc

rotund furnace Sep 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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is there any source explaining how exp gain works in heists? do all mobs give limited experience when you are escaping?

half panther Sep 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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How do you get your crewmates past lv 3?

covert maple Sep 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Anyone still missing rogues and not getting green contracts at all anymore? They were coming in steady for a while and i havent seen another in quite some time.. still don't have anyone to do deception at all

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Do they only drop in acts? i dont think ive seen a green one in maps at all

quasi crest Sep 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Is it worth to reach the artifact in every heist ? Or is it just better to open all the chest you can as fast as possible ?

half panther Sep 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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They drop in maps for sure

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Sounds like bad luck

covert maple Sep 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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weird maybe i just have really bad luck then

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missing 3 rogues, i think.. 3 empty name bars on the screen

sage timber Sep 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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try running far away, Martem
@valid isle it doesn't work ive once ran whole zone back

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it does work on normal heist encounters but not on this one

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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whats up with all these grand heist doors just NOT opening??

sage timber Sep 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@violet nymph having same issue

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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its quite annoying

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id assume they would have nailed the biggest part of their league qwq

sage timber Sep 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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ye ikr it's reward room after all

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why bother if i can't get the reward

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 7:15 PM

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its the whole point of the grand heist is to get the special item

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ive done 3 grand heists and this is the 2nd one its been like this

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i even picked up the second wing and both are like it

sage timber Sep 21, 2020, 7:15 PM

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vault doors are only problem for me rest is good

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 7:16 PM

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yea exactly

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hopefully they get it fixed sometime soon, ya know, instead of patching less important things

sage timber Sep 21, 2020, 7:17 PM

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😄

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ye

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i mean i'm having an issue with crashes aswell. only turning off engine multithreading fixed the issue. imagine having 4 cores and being forced to play with only one

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 7:18 PM

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imagine having to turn off something unrelated to the game to be able to play o:

sage timber Sep 21, 2020, 7:20 PM

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😄

north crow Sep 21, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I wish we could post a psa or something to let people know to be careful about grand heists

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Since it seems to be a common issue and I think most people are just getting into endgame starting to run them now

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 7:22 PM

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its not even an end game thing

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which is a bigger issue cuz people, lets say in act 5 get one, they have been doing a few regular heists and are excited about this new type of blueprint, they run it and boom the main part of the heist is locked away from them, that kinda is frustrating and personally made me just rage quit :p maybe thats just me that feels that way tho so xP

gilded osprey Sep 21, 2020, 7:24 PM

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How do I even do this hiest league? I have contracts and blueprints but idk what menu and etc to go through in order to do it. Yeah, I'm a potato

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 7:25 PM

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right click a rogue marker if you have one and go to the rogue harbor, from there adilah? is her name i think (something like that) give her the contract and you can do your heists o:

sterile fable Sep 21, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Anyone know if it’s worth alching contracts? Haven’t noticed much of a difference in loot running white/blue/yellow contracts.

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Might also be because I don’t have enough time to open all chests before the alarm is triggered

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Thats exactly what alching helps with

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Additional mods can Grant reduced alert gained or even stuff Like Killing guards removes alert instead of increasing it

sterile fable Sep 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Oh I see, I didn’t pay too much attention to the mods. Maybe I should also try gearing my rogues with alert reduction or whatever

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Yes

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You can get Like 80%? Total alert reduction for Grand heists, If Not more

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So you can basically Just kill everything and loot everything and dont have to worry

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And If you have Kaarst and Tullina chests get -50% alert as Well on top. Since i am Not fully geared yet i cannot say how it stacks, but it pretty much means No alert whatsoever

celest tiger Sep 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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is it intended that you don't lose exp

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for dying in heists?

sterile fable Sep 21, 2020, 8:19 PM

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I’ll try gearing them out thanks

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Heists barely give any exp so maybe it’s intended?

crisp tree Sep 21, 2020, 8:30 PM

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losing items and xp vanity

celest hound Sep 21, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Can someone explain Niles' perk to me re: blueprints? Do you get a free reveal somehow?

mild pine Sep 21, 2020, 8:33 PM

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What determines the skill xp a rogue gains? Level of the contract/blueprint? Number of doors they open?

celest hound Sep 21, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I've been hoping it's partly based on number of tasks they perform. There are often a bunch you can do on the way out, even if they go nowhere.

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I think its fixed per contract

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Depending on level

celest hound Sep 21, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I was hoping there was a way to boost it, I keep running into situations where the only contract I have requires level 2 in something, and I don't have anyone at that level yet.

agile verge Sep 21, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Which one should I use?

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Thinking Horror

neon solar Sep 21, 2020, 8:44 PM

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so LVL 3 limit on huck?

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neat rover Sep 21, 2020, 8:46 PM

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it seems

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on all

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cant get higher level..

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bug?

celest hound Sep 21, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I have an item that requires level 5 in "any job", so there must be something else.

ornate flower Sep 21, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Is there a fix to neversink filter

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For heist gear

silver kettle Sep 21, 2020, 8:48 PM

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@neon solar huck can't get more than level 3 in anything, yes. sorry that this isn't very clear at the moment, will be improved in the near future

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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with mark changes... are we still able to get a shaped ring that applies assassin's mark on hit? <~<

celest hound Sep 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Ah, so only some members can get level 5 in certain skills.

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Probably the ones "most expert" at it.

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Yes

silver kettle Sep 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@valid isle that mod still exists but was changed to only apply it to rare/unique enemies

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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id be happy with that

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i dont care about the power charges, really

neon solar Sep 21, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Yeah i got this:

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valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 8:50 PM

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but that would be very nice for keeping movement speed up

neon solar Sep 21, 2020, 8:50 PM

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and was wondering if its a bug or design thing

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thank you for clarification @silver kettle ❤️

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 8:51 PM

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@silver kettle so bonus question <~< whats the best way to get a shaped ring with that? just buy it? lol

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also, i just noticed Viper works for GGG. Man I am on point today.

twin fjord Sep 21, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Is the Plant the Poison (Karst's Revenge) quest bugged? I can't do anything with the Convenient Ventilation Shaft...

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 9:08 PM

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i have had a few issues with the green quests.

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sometimes you have to fail it and just find another one

twin fjord Sep 21, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Aww, alright

silver kettle Sep 21, 2020, 9:13 PM

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@twin fjord did you have the poison in your inventory?

south plover Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM

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So in a 3 wing heist, it only let me do 2 wings. When I escaped the 2nd wing it took me to a dead end with only a portal back to town..

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Is this just a you only get to do 2 out of the 3 thing, or a bug?

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 9:15 PM

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a bug im sure

analog atlas Sep 21, 2020, 9:16 PM

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hmm... I don't have any deception character despite gaining many deception heists and being in maps, when/how can I get deception character?

twin fjord Sep 21, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Hmm I don't think so. Was I supposed to pick it up before hand? That would explain it.

crude scarab Sep 21, 2020, 9:17 PM

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so uhh, there's no way to get rid of a heist quest item that is in my inv, but the portal casued a crash to desktop?

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 9:17 PM

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you keep running them, @analog atlas

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do a bunch of tier 1 difficulty skills

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and they will join eventually

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it took me about 30~50 tier 1s to get all 9

silver kettle Sep 21, 2020, 9:18 PM

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@twin fjord hmm you shouldn't be able to enter without it being in your inventory. will fix.

signal kraken Sep 21, 2020, 9:19 PM

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i need a load of like tier one contracts. is there somewhere i can farm for those quickly?

twin fjord Sep 21, 2020, 9:20 PM

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If it happens again I'll try to pay more attention to that and take a screen shot. Thanks for all your hard work.

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 9:21 PM

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wtf the boss is stuck in the wall

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and invulnerable

frail kayak Sep 21, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@crude scarab you can drop it but not destroy, go to a place that allows you to drop items

crude scarab Sep 21, 2020, 9:26 PM

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ah easy enough

frail kayak Sep 21, 2020, 9:28 PM

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@signal kraken I have dozens of basic contracts just from grinding out awakener levels. I'd say just go map, work on standard atlas progression and before long you'll have a solid supply of heist related things. Otherwise, go buy them from other people like any other trade

silver kettle Sep 21, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@signal kraken Whakano in the rogue harbour sells easy contracts if you need to level up your rogues

neon solar Sep 21, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Bugs i am fine with

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but this!

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You restricted our wifu to lvl 3 lockpicking

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 9:34 PM

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oh right, now that you are here viper, Silver coins in heists appearently dont drop as contraband

neon solar Sep 21, 2020, 9:35 PM

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time for [AngryRedditThread]

/s

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 9:36 PM

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oh yeah i noticed that

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silver coins are just normal

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i figured it was intentional cause silver coins are like

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weird magical prophetic things

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 9:39 PM

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nah its probably because silver coins dont use the normal drop mechanic but the old, you get one per zone emchanic thing

half ore Sep 21, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I remember them saying that in a party everyone would be able to pick a reward from grand heist, but once one person smashed display, others locked out... Did they change their mind or im missing smth?

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 9:39 PM

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so they probably technically arent dropped but generated, i think?

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everyone gets an artifact in normal heists iirc, thats what they said

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 9:46 PM

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wow

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a crash

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looks like they still haven't solved everything

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wtf i just crashed on entering the harbor lol

mighty meteor Sep 21, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Infinitely spawning robots

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valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 10:00 PM

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thats so many lol

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@silver kettle are the blueprint drops working correctly? basically everyone i know is complaining they are not finding any

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with only a select few players finding maybe a total of 10 at this point

austere crypt Sep 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I thought people where over exaggerating abit how rippy heists can be, untill this happend to me...

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https://streamable.com/tqp6uf

Streamable

how did I live

▶ Play video

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the timining of niles quote is pretty flawless timining also lol 😛

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

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yeah, you got lucky you didnt get a substantial lag spike that lasts a few seconds and then kills you Xd

austere crypt Sep 21, 2020, 10:04 PM

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hah yeah pretty insane that i didnt crash completely. The ammount of hits i took lagged the server or something though

pliant sapphire Sep 21, 2020, 10:04 PM

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how worth is it to have huck with you on heists i.e what buffs does he actually provide? Just states that he gives "powerful buffs" i can't see any upper left

valid isle Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yeah, i have no idea

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it might not be working lol

old portal Sep 21, 2020, 10:07 PM

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how do i get the rogues past level 3?

pliant sapphire Sep 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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some seem capped at level 3

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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we really need a pin for that

pliant sapphire Sep 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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soooo huck is kinda useless i guess

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if he provides no buff

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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What IS working qwq

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Only the primary skill can go to 5, secondary skills are locked to 3 or below. Some rogues such as huck only get to 3 in all skills cause he has 4 skills.

tiny zenith Sep 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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so how is the best way to make bank on the heists?

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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improve your bros, give them equipment and then do the heists

tiny zenith Sep 21, 2020, 10:10 PM

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it looks like its not even worth to complete them, just open chests, im doing something wrong?

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:10 PM

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you want to complete them or you dont get XP and gear for the rogues

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Careful with grand heists tho

tiny zenith Sep 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Careful about how much loot, or how difficult?

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Careful that its buggy as heckles

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The end door for me hasnt opened 66% of the time

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To get to the actual main reward

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Well 75%

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:13 PM

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engineering doors dont work

tiny zenith Sep 21, 2020, 10:13 PM

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welp thanks for the advice, I think Im saving them till next patch

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Hopefully they fix the important shiz first c:

tiny zenith Sep 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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They didnt fixed abyss yet, they even forgot about things in the patchnotes that killed a build, so I guess its gonna take a while.

violet nymph Sep 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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As usual o:

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Ooo lets predict what texture they will fix next c:

tiny zenith Sep 21, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Also is it normal that when you try to do a "green cotract" and forgot to pick the item needed for the job, it still lets you do the heist? Feels like a bug, or like someone forgot to implement something.

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When you go to the end you obviouslly cant complete the heist

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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it should not let you start, confirmed a bug

daring atlas Sep 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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does heist peoples gear only drop from green contracts ?

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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no

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if you use neversink turn filter to regular or soft to not hide the items

acoustic agate Sep 21, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Anyone knows when the bug will be fixed that sometimes u open the portal for heist contract and when you enter it throws you back on the rogue harbour, you lose your markers and the contract disappears from the inventory too

daring atlas Sep 21, 2020, 10:39 PM

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hm ok maybe ive just been unlucky im using normal filterblade

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 10:40 PM

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i found them to mostly drop from heist mobs when alert is 100%

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thats just from my experience, cant confirm 100%

daring atlas Sep 21, 2020, 10:41 PM

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i just die when i stand still when alert is 100% after getting treasure

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 10:41 PM

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lol some of these replicas

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:42 PM

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i havent seen a build that does well against heist lockdowns

daring atlas Sep 21, 2020, 10:42 PM

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im doing a TR trickster build and im just running in circles while the people do their heist things

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 10:43 PM

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thats during going in, that doesnt matter

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but for the getting out part

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these super hasted mobs are very tough

trail tiger Sep 21, 2020, 10:52 PM

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when can i start giving equipment?

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I have some in my inventory but it shows red when i try to drop in their inventory slots.

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Also, are you finding heists more rewarding than maps overall? I hit a wall with maps at t5 with zana having no inventory left, so doing heists, finding them somewhat rewarding but some times not worth the 1 shot losses

rigid stream Sep 21, 2020, 11:04 PM

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the equipment has a job level requirement

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 11:12 PM

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7 link ring?

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hexed rapids Sep 21, 2020, 11:14 PM

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do you alch heist contracts? someone told me chancing them was better but idk

brisk scroll Sep 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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i was wondering the same thing, should i be rolling them like maps?

verbal crest Sep 21, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yes

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because they can give helpful mods

brisk scroll Sep 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

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ahh ok

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ty

barren ingot Sep 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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wait, huck can't even go past level 3 in any of his jobs?

ruby roost Sep 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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guys how to reset heist shop?

barren ingot Sep 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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templarSad

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why does huck exist, exaclty

cunning blade Sep 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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level up @ruby roost

stoic sparrow Sep 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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can we use replica item to vendor craft item?

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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no

cunning blade Sep 21, 2020, 11:44 PM

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nope

swift rain Sep 21, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Whats a good build to contain

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the enemy

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esp for Void Sphere since I see that my Decoy Totem get 1 or 2 shot

civic wyvern Sep 21, 2020, 11:56 PM

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What are the green contracts (quest) for? I have all of the characters, what does it give me if I finish them?

devout osprey Sep 21, 2020, 11:56 PM

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xp and lore basicly

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it costs no coins to run them so free xp. and it gets removed from inventory lol

civic wyvern Sep 21, 2020, 11:59 PM

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gotcha, thanks

trail tiger Sep 22, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I still cant tell if heist or map is more worth the time

craggy sinew Sep 22, 2020, 12:16 AM

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idk if this has ben asked, but how do you unlock all the heist members

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 12:17 AM

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just keep doing contracts with other ones

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they will eventually show up

craggy sinew Sep 22, 2020, 12:18 AM

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thank u!

leaden river Sep 22, 2020, 12:19 AM

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~~So I revealed the rooms on this grand heist but I can't select any of the crew, am I missing something?~~
Needed to confirm it in the planning room

violet nymph Sep 22, 2020, 12:21 AM

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This was originally a six-link from a grand heist. My trinket had a 3% chance for items to drop corrupted modifier on it which corrupted the six-link that I picked for the grand heist turning it into this shit

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Big sad

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Deleted that trinket right after

pseudo hull Sep 22, 2020, 12:29 AM

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has anyone seen the heist endgame yet?

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is it a unique blueprint?

marsh oracle Sep 22, 2020, 12:37 AM

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how do I unlock heist characters?

wary smelt Sep 22, 2020, 12:42 AM

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do a heist with ur newest unlocked char

swift rain Sep 22, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Is this abuse when you go in to loot the currencies and go out to uncontraband it?

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or is that the mechanic?

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I'm confused

devout osprey Sep 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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mechanic.

swift rain Sep 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Ok

devout osprey Sep 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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it costs coins to do it anyway

swift rain Sep 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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What coins

devout osprey Sep 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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no xp, no coin return.

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marker

swift rain Sep 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Wait where

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I don't keep track of it

devout osprey Sep 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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you pay the heist members and the ring to open a contract portal.

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this payment is paid by coins

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or markers

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or marks whatever they are called

swift rain Sep 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Oh, I been following my friend who been opening them

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So I wasn't sure of it

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I've just been looting stuffs

unique jay Sep 22, 2020, 12:44 AM

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How do you get the unique contracts I've been seeing?

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Is it from contracts/blueprints or maps

devout osprey Sep 22, 2020, 12:51 AM

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https://poedb.tw/us/Heist#NPCs regarding levels

PoEDB

PoEDB provides new things come out each league, as well as unreleased skills or MTX, as all of the information is directly datamined from the game itself.

pseudo hull Sep 22, 2020, 12:51 AM

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is there the new unique blue prints on there?

devout osprey Sep 22, 2020, 12:53 AM

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yea

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https://poedb.tw/us/Heist#HeistUnique

PoEDB

PoEDB provides new things come out each league, as well as unreleased skills or MTX, as all of the information is directly datamined from the game itself.

next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Along with the unique contracts, there are also quest contracts

jaunty oriole Sep 22, 2020, 1:15 AM

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@covert maple Im level 90 and still missing 3 heist people, Heist is broken. garbage mechanic, I map all day and have yet to get perception / deception

ocean narwhal Sep 22, 2020, 1:27 AM

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man

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I haven't found any contracts/blueprints on the heists themselves yet oddly

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Also @jaunty oriole Perception is on Karst, And you can unlock niles from taking huck out on heists (at least it did for me)

maiden coral Sep 22, 2020, 1:33 AM

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templarthumbsup I finished a heist
templarSad Then disconnected on the next one

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Felt bold to try heists since I finished lab without a hitch

marsh oracle Sep 22, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Hi this is Karst the Lockpicking Lawyer

ocean narwhal Sep 22, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I've been pretty smooth and non disconnecty with heists so far

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dunno why considering a bunch of people are having issues

cobalt falcon Sep 22, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Heist can drop blueprint?

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From where

maiden coral Sep 22, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Got both of mine from smuggler cache's

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...tho I don't have the markers to reveal them : ) Thank you heist crash

cobalt falcon Sep 22, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Is there any way steal artifact but not trigger alarm?

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Am i play it wrong, or always trigger alarm

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To steal artefak

maiden coral Sep 22, 2020, 1:47 AM

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It always triggers

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to make the exit dangerous

covert maple Sep 22, 2020, 1:53 AM

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@jaunty oriole i just got my deception guy, the green contract popped out of a smuggler cache in a T3 map . .

shell turtle Sep 22, 2020, 1:54 AM

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does anyone know if green quest contracts are shared across chars?

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 1:56 AM

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gee I sure love getting randomly oneshot with overcapped resists, 6k ES, capped block/spellblock, and a stage 4 frost shield for 60% reduction

cobalt falcon Sep 22, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Mini sirius on robot heist is hurt

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:01 AM

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the worst part about it is just not knowing WHAT is killing me. like, the rare few hits that any single one of the rares in heists manage to land on me do maybe 500 damage or so

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am I to believe that of the pack of 20 mobs, somehow all of them are managing to hit through max block and do more than 10k total damage in one go?

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:07 AM

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That can happen but is unlikely. It's more probable that any combination of:

Getting shocked
Getting cursed
Nullifier
Physical Crit

Got through and nuked you (assuming you play CI).

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Even if all of those were true at the same time, it would still need to be more than half of them hitting through maxblocks to manage that

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although, I suppose I could mitigate one of those further by swapping out my reckless defenses for replicas

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:11 AM

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You have max block only? (not overcapped).

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:12 AM

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75/75

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:12 AM

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If that's the case then with Reckless Defense it's easy to get snapped. From those 20 mobs on average 5 will hit you.

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:12 AM

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How so?

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Math? 75% Block chance means you Block 75% of hits and do not block 25% of hits. 20 * 0.25 = 5

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Oh, sorry, I misread, I thought you said kill, not hit

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:13 AM

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It's obviously RNG so sometimes you do get hit sometimes you don't and all depends how they line up

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Right, but I can't imagine that more than half of the mobs will be hitting so very often with capped block and spellblock

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Definitely not. Do you have ES recovery on block?

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Nope, but I have a 20% chance for ES recharge to start on block, with 3.8k ES recharge per second

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and of course, damage doesn't stop ES recharge

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Then it's most likely Physical Crits that are RNGezing you. Do you run Basalt?

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:16 AM

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yes, and Arctic Armor for another 13% phys reduction

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my build is tanky as hell and has facetanked pretty much everything else in the game in previous leagues (admittedly with about 1k more ES in most cases, though)

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and yet Heist is instagib city

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Next best bet then is to get ES on Block. Recovery is good but if 20+ attacks land at the same time and some RNG through it will not keep up because it will be instant. Recovery though will happen in-between the blocked and non-blocked hits.

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Are there any sources of ES on block that don't use the weapon or shield slots?

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Perhaps. I play RF and so far the only thing that really insta gibbed me was the mines. Ran into like 20 of those fuckers and didn't expect the on-death effect.

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Not that I am aware of.

pseudo hull Sep 22, 2020, 2:20 AM

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hello

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:20 AM

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the mine traps that you can disarm in the trap demo stages? I dance through those and come out of it with full ES

pseudo hull Sep 22, 2020, 2:20 AM

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is "The Catch" a target item or something in smuggler's den?

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or is it like a secret item?

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:20 AM

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No. The little crawlers that light up with red light and blow up after death.

remote phoenix Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Was anybody able to get their heist skills (agility, demo, perception etc) above lvl 3?

pseudo hull Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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yes

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Yes. You need to do the Green Contracts (quest ones) to raise the cap

pseudo hull Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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u use the character to whom that skill is their specialty

bleak tinsel Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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So Phantasmal Dual Strike has "Deals 10% more added damage" that means that any sources of added damage are 10% greater for each hit right? So on a build that's focused on added damage it should be really strong?

remote phoenix Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Oh! I see!

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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For the main skills, that requires their green contracts

remote phoenix Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Thanks

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I think the secondary skills are hardcapped though?

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:22 AM

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All skills are hard capped at some point: https://poedb.tw/us/Heist#NPCs

PoEDB

PoEDB provides new things come out each league, as well as unreleased skills or MTX, as all of the information is directly datamined from the game itself.

still coral Sep 22, 2020, 2:22 AM

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what I meant was only their primary skills cna reach 5, but apparently Vinderi is the exception to that

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Same with Huck. Can't get to 5 in any.

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Is there an over-leveling penalty to spawning smuggler's caches? Like, a point where they will not spawn any more?

twin fjord Sep 22, 2020, 2:41 AM

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These NPC spam the shit out of chat text box. I can hardly carry a conversation doing Heists.

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Spam much?

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naive forum Sep 22, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I'm running missions with Gianna but not getting any blueprint reveals. Any idea why that would be?

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I was wondering how that works too.

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Although in my case it's Niles

pseudo hull Sep 22, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Is the CATCH a target item?

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or is it just a random item in there

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that u gotta find

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smuggler's den or blueprint: underbelly

short canopy Sep 22, 2020, 3:02 AM

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do theif's trinket IIQ increase item from chest ?

drowsy vigil Sep 22, 2020, 3:03 AM

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can someone answer 2 questions: if you do a grand heist and you finish one wing and return to the main entrance. Can you use the portal back to Rogue Harbour and drop stuff in stash or does that end grant heist?

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and 2) how do you level a rogue's skill past level 3?

short canopy Sep 22, 2020, 3:06 AM

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some said you can / if the portal disappear you need to reconnect. but i haven't tried it so i'm not 100$ sure

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2)I think some rogue have lower skill cap than the other

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Huck definitely.

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Others can go to 5.

drowsy vigil Sep 22, 2020, 3:07 AM

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oh thanks, so it's capped?

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Doing the green quest contracts raises the cap to 5 for those who can

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https://poedb.tw/us/Heist#NPCs

PoEDB

PoEDB provides new things come out each league, as well as unreleased skills or MTX, as all of the information is directly datamined from the game itself.

drowsy vigil Sep 22, 2020, 3:07 AM

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oh that's very helpful thanks

short canopy Sep 22, 2020, 3:08 AM

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too bad we couldn't craft theif trincket haha

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I've only seen about half of the green quest contracts. I guess they will keep dropping in maps?

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Also i'm still missing Gianna and Vinderi. Other than just running contracts and hoping they get brought in, is there any way to induce them?

maiden coral Sep 22, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Probably run the contracts they have as their jobs

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I got Niles from a counter thaumaturgy, Vinderi from a Demolition

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:11 AM

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well if I don't know anything about them, how do I do that?

maiden coral Sep 22, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Honestly not sure if that's the case, tho safe bet is to vary the jobs needed

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Don't spam lockpicking if you want to get all 9 or something like that

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:12 AM

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right, that's sort of what I've been doing. just running through the lowbie contracts I accumulated through the story.

silver kettle Sep 22, 2020, 3:13 AM

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you unlock them by running heists above a certain level threshold (not super high for any of them) with specific other rogues

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:13 AM

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they'll show eventually I guess, but I kinda want them all to be unlocked soon so I can vary the jobs

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oh, so I'm probably not getting them with these level 30-ish contracts. ok, I'll move up

maiden coral Sep 22, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Huck seems to bring in a lot of them for me, good guy

silver kettle Sep 22, 2020, 3:13 AM

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e.g. the first time you run a high enough level contract with niles he'll bring vinderi along

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:14 AM

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gotcha

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it's xp for the other ones anyway.

autumn glen Sep 22, 2020, 3:15 AM

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anyone know how to get more reveals from whakano on the grand heist blueprints?

tall berry Sep 22, 2020, 3:19 AM

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If you're doing a grand heist, and you do one wing and go back to the safe area, you can't hit the portal and go back to town right? You'll lose the portal back to the other 2 wings right?

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If so, how do you juggle the loot from the first wing or two?

livid pecan Sep 22, 2020, 3:29 AM

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is it me or are escapes EXTREMELY overtuned?

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i think ive succeeded on exactly one escape on L68+ heists

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died on every other attempt

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at some point you have to just... rush through 800 mobs and hope you dont get stuck

short canopy Sep 22, 2020, 3:31 AM

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do #% increased Quantity of Items dropped in Heists work for chest ?

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in rogue item mod

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Quartz flask and yolo is what I do :/

livid pecan Sep 22, 2020, 3:33 AM

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quartz flask is a good idea too

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 3:34 AM

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They are pretty tough especially with the rares piling together like crazy. Your success rate is a tab bit too low for that though.

cunning blade Sep 22, 2020, 3:36 AM

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@livid pecan no not really

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they aren't rippy unless u alch them

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which isn't worth alching so far from what I've seen

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haven't encountered the famous 10 rare allies cannot die stack behind the door yet tho

unique jay Sep 22, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Where do you get unique contracts from? Are they just random drops from map stashes or from blueprints/contracts?

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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probably random drops, though I don't know for sure. I bet it works like map drops.

next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 3:59 AM

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It is a little annoying that running quest contracts is a net loss of marks (because you don't get an item to fence)

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Agreed. It's prevented me from getting blueprints done in some cases.

next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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also

Killing Monsters Increasing Your Alert Level
We killed this. It's not a thing anymore.

templarthumbsup

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(as of a soon-to-be-released hotfix)

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 4:01 AM

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👀

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Lord, those are good news.

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Yes, yes, yes. I've been running far too many contracts where I just zerg rush the artifact as a summoner.

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This lets me plan a route so I can trigger alert and still have 20+ seconds to run to the artifact before lockdown.

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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I been just walking around with RF turned off and tanking everything. But it feels so wrong to just kite.

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And people like Niles are too trigger happy :/ Have to do battle.

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Which to make that somewhat topical to heist mechanics... you can squeeze out more Heist time if you take care of doors and mobs then just bum rush as many chests as you can before lockdown, near the end.

cunning blade Sep 22, 2020, 4:04 AM

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"We killed this. It's not a thing anymore."

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me and the boys gonna be stomping heists now

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cadibroPerandus

celest hound Sep 22, 2020, 4:04 AM

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As far as I can tell, there's no difference between picking up the artifact with 1 second left before lockdown and picking it up with space left on the alert bar. So use it up!

livid pecan Sep 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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fucking poggers

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what an amazing hotfix

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thank you GGG

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all wonderful changes

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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WOOT

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❤️

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now we just need better blueprint drops and ill be psyched

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:10 AM

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on one hand, its a nice QOL for sure....on the other hand, it reduces the value of heist member trinkets by a good bit

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not sure how I feel about it

vernal oracle Sep 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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There's specific mods on contracts to lower alert when killing guards and stuff too, i was already getting all the chests as is, now it'll just be trivial

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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it also removes a lot of skill expression

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oh well

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if it helps retain players so I have more people to trade with then its a positive

fair aspen Sep 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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oh, wait, we can slaughter the guards now instead of running around in circles while they open doors?

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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well they can shift some of that value into guards increasing alert when they activate

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but either way it's better than the current situation

finite stump Sep 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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holy fuck yea

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that literally makes everything godly.

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It means that now when you unlock and do a chest you had behind a skillcheck (e.G a big named reward)

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the adds you're killing while you defend your follower won't give u alert

unique orbit Sep 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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so is hotfix live or how do we know when its deployed?

sharp iron Sep 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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So does this update mean that if I walk into a guard's line of sight, then my alert goes up. But if I shoot an arrow at a guard that doesn't see me and one-shot them, my alert doesn't go up?

fair aspen Sep 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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yay they fixed it, now I can't stay logged in. problem solved?

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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you can't hurt guards that don't see you I don't think

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I dunno if like namelock skills can do that but aoe stuff doesn't hit them

sharp iron Sep 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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I've done that with my Ranger. Shot at guards who were still in their idle guarding postion and killed them.

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I was using Puncture

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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or like if I flame dash across a robot that isn't active they don't take the ground damage

finite stump Sep 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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@signal lichen let me guess you too are connected the the swampington dc?

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 4:20 AM

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holy shit I just one-shot a spider crawling on my leg

fair aspen Sep 22, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Close enough!. But yea, I usually get kicked into dc

finite stump Sep 22, 2020, 4:20 AM

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dc's been crashing on off for me for the past 5 min

fair aspen Sep 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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guess it's time to go play with texas

violet nymph Sep 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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While leveling, can you just theoretically permanently do contracts if you retrieve the artifacts and currency to buy new contracts

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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alert level meta gone, we making things cheaper and faster now

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next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Hotfix is not live yet. There should be an announcement when it is

finite stump Sep 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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so what you're saying Nudge is we're in a Heist movie from Before 9/11 now?

unique orbit Sep 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Time to go do maps for a while then

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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hopefully the patch will be live by the time I wake up

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i would assume so since its already 4:30pm in NZ

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if they are rolling it out today it has to be in a few hours right?

cunning blade Sep 22, 2020, 4:27 AM

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hopefully its today

astral mesa Sep 22, 2020, 4:27 AM

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is n e one else having server connectivity issues

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Still no news on grand heist reward door bug? Jfc

sage flame Sep 22, 2020, 4:29 AM

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I had two unqiues in my second ever contract heist, and when the brute busted open the door while escaping, I instantly died to a 1-shot spell

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literally the frame the door opened

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and apparently lost it all

next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 4:29 AM

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@frigid venture https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ixg5wq/todays_hotfix_for_heist/g66neh4/?context=3 "Investigating. We have another post coming tomorrow."

r/pathofexile - Comment by u/Bex_GGG on ”Today's Hotfix for Heist”

0 votes and 160 comments so far on Reddit

sage flame Sep 22, 2020, 4:29 AM

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It said "respawn at checkpoint" as an option, but clicking that just put me in the rogues den

vernal oracle Sep 22, 2020, 4:29 AM

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This was hotfixes, all they did was change numerical values the door bugs will come in time

noble sapphire Sep 22, 2020, 4:30 AM

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I'm currently at 8/9 heist followers, do I just spam heists to unlock the last one?

vernal oracle Sep 22, 2020, 4:30 AM

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You need to run that last person you recruited

sage flame Sep 22, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Feels really damn bad to have that happen

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Losing your first 2 uniques to some bs instakill mechanic

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and losing the heist scroll

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contract scroll, rather

glad tusk Sep 22, 2020, 4:37 AM

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im trying to understand tullina's x% chance to find additional heist targets in secret reward rooms.. isnt there only one heist target (the final room)

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so it refers to that room only?

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Any chest with icons can drop vendorable artifacts

zealous adder Sep 22, 2020, 4:38 AM

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is there a strat to unlocking the rest of the rogues? or is it just random?

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:38 AM

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@glad tusk ever find a league specific chest room with 2 chests instead of 1? thats what that is

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:39 AM

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You can even get them during heist quest contracts

glad tusk Sep 22, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Oh i see, so the ones that sell for markers

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Thanks guys

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Still kinda dumb that the game charges you markers for doing heist quests

next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 4:43 AM

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@frigid venture I don't think that's true. The only items that you get that vendor for markers are the heist targets, of which there is exactly one

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:44 AM

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@next epoch what. You don't get any markers for doing the quests lol

next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 4:44 AM

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You can get heist tools from anywhere in heists, but those vendor for normal currency, not markers

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And right, the quests are a net loss in terms of markers

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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And they're pretty much mandatory

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So you have to choose between paying up markers or losing inventory space

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:45 AM

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dude I have got like 3 mirror from heist today

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they were the heist target mirrors, but still

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:46 AM

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You mean telakatipitzi.?

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:46 AM

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how many times are they going to have me steal a mirror

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ya

short canopy Sep 22, 2020, 5:06 AM

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how you make contract vendor reset ?

sullen hornet Sep 22, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Hey can anyone recommend a good tanky build for heists that won't get one shot?

cunning blade Sep 22, 2020, 5:07 AM

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anything jugg probably

somber bison Sep 22, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Is there a list of what the icons mean on the chests some where?

barren ingot Sep 22, 2020, 5:47 AM

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yeah but it's like, ~200 markers per quest

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not really a big deal

icy falcon Sep 22, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Is it just me or the contract drop rate is lower than the blueprint? It seems like the contract drops for me every 3 maps. But I haven't juiced maps yet. I'm still on tier 1-5.

valid compass Sep 22, 2020, 6:06 AM

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how do i get 'reveals' at whakano?

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:07 AM

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so is there a particular set of rogues that just bug the fuck out?

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Library contract = 1 reveal for library blueprint @valid compass

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Etc

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:07 AM

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because ive noticed a lot of posts involving Tibbs

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and i just had Vinderi refuse to detonate a door

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he kept trying to walk into the door, presumably trying to set the bomb on the other side

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im guessing everyone should avoid Demolitions requirements like the plague if that's the case

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:08 AM

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If you throw a bomb across a fence, can you still Set it off from the Other Side? marauderthinking

valid compass Sep 22, 2020, 6:08 AM

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my tibbs is getting bodyblocked by my minions >.>

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:08 AM

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stealth nerf to summoner lol

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:09 AM

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But i havent had that Happen yet, usually Walking Back a Bit works

next epoch Sep 22, 2020, 6:09 AM

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To complete the detonate action, the NPC has to step back from the barrier. In some cases, this will fail if you're too close. Try backing off a little

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:09 AM

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no you dont get it

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Vinderi wouldnt even set the bomb

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:09 AM

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He threw the bomb across the fence

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:09 AM

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he just kept walking into the door, or just standing there

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its a massive metal door, there is no fence

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it was the sewer tile set

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Walking back should also fix that

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:09 AM

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i did

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walked all the way back to the target room

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then back

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pressed V

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Huh thats wierd

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:10 AM

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and Vinderi decided to complain about using a bomb he was saving for a special occasion lol

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and then i walked back to the target room

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and back to the door

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and left clicked with my mouse on the button

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same thing happened

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now one thing i just thought of...

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Very strange, usually there is some tiny enemy bugging him

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:11 AM

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there were a shit ton of corpses on the ground near that door

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Can you explode them?

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:12 AM

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nope

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now that said

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I dont think thats it but it could be

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:12 AM

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i could probably have walked away and just murderhobod a bunch of enemies to make the corpses near the door despawn

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and then walked back to the door and tried again

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i also noticed the enemies on the other side of the door thought they had been engaged

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since they were moving around rather than waiting in formation

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so it seems like a desync error?

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server says door is gone, game says no

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 6:14 AM

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They start doing their Thing once you attempt to Open the door

low sky Sep 22, 2020, 6:14 AM

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game attempts to send a "get rid of this door message" and the server says "you're on drugs, it's already gone!"

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see i thought starting to get rid of a door would put the enemies into an "Alert" state

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and that would cause them to get in formation to shotgun your face

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and once the door is gone is when they start moving about

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so thats a heist gone

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i exited to character select ages ago

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before posting here

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 6:27 AM

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im really not sure on the whole solaris vs lunaris thing

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while i would rather have -1% damage taken for each near by in this league

modest depot Sep 22, 2020, 6:27 AM

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is there an eta for the "killing doesnt increase alert level" patch? i will postpone all heists till that

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 6:27 AM

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the 20% chance for 1/2 area damage seems really nice

half panther Sep 22, 2020, 6:32 AM

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There is no ETA, it'll happen either today or tomorrow if they run into a bug with implementing it, that is all we know to my knowledge

modest depot Sep 22, 2020, 6:32 AM

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ok thx 🙂

burnt elbow Sep 22, 2020, 6:45 AM

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How often does the Barber refresh his inventory?

mental atlas Sep 22, 2020, 6:48 AM

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how do i reveal wings in bluprints

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 7:00 AM

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talk to the barber

simple juniper Sep 22, 2020, 7:09 AM

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the great treasure trove is in the blueprint: repository with Heist Target: Unusual Gems is buggy it very often has no symbol on it or when it is there it is extremely buggy

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3 attempts 3 fails

woven edge Sep 22, 2020, 7:25 AM

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is anyone else unable to unlock their last rogue member? i have every rogue level 2 or higher, and cannot unlock nenet...

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 7:26 AM

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uh tullina brought nenet with her

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for me

woven edge Sep 22, 2020, 7:26 AM

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my tulina is 3/2/2, didn't get nenet

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 7:27 AM

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but i got nenet really early. Its probably a certain tileset that proccs her

woven edge Sep 22, 2020, 7:28 AM

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hm..

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it doesnt depend on the green contract does it?

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shes not in my rogue harbor dunno if that matters,

raven wave Sep 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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If I'm in a grand heist, can I go back to the town area to sell in between the zones?

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Conc effect doesnt seem to effect Splitting Steel, even though its supposed to?

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or is it just a tooltip thing?

marsh oracle Sep 22, 2020, 8:01 AM

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PSA!! I figured out how to unlock more people

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I didn't use Huck enough

woven edge Sep 22, 2020, 8:06 AM

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i wonder if thats my issue, huck is stil lvl 1 in 2 skills

proven hamlet Sep 22, 2020, 8:24 AM

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tfw all your deaths in heist is because of the bombs

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templarSad

earnest geyser Sep 22, 2020, 8:35 AM

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What s the point in doing unique heists apart from getting them out of inventory?

opal hill Sep 22, 2020, 8:37 AM

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I'm doing contracts with this girl

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but I'm not getting any reveals

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any clue why?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 8:37 AM

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too low lvl?

opal hill Sep 22, 2020, 8:38 AM

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that might be it I guess. Been doing a bunch of 67s

crimson iris Sep 22, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Can you return to your stash between grandheists?

quaint echo Sep 22, 2020, 8:45 AM

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the reveals are just stashed somewhere right? or u need it to do right away?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 8:51 AM

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nah reveals are just imaginary eye points

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they dont go away

swift wren Sep 22, 2020, 8:52 AM

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what does huck's buff do

quaint echo Sep 22, 2020, 8:53 AM

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i got 8 grand heist (plans) till lvl 90, u got more?

fresh valley Sep 22, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Do Specters from story acts just despawn when you get to heists? Or is this a bug?

topaz dew Sep 22, 2020, 9:42 AM

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did the hotfix about the alert from killing go thru yet?

pliant stream Sep 22, 2020, 9:48 AM

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nope

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will be announced

livid birch Sep 22, 2020, 9:51 AM

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is there a way to hunt for specific replicas or is it as random as usual

maiden coral Sep 22, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Can you know what is in the grand heists before starting
Or will we have to stare at the options in the reward room

mental atlas Sep 22, 2020, 10:10 AM

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can i get more reveals for a blueprint?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 10:10 AM

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will they telepathically give you the food you want in mcdonalds?

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you can see what type of reward you get beforehand, but not what items exactly

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:13 AM

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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK GGG, i just got one shot at 243 energy shield 1541 hp, positive resistances in a level 54 mission heist

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and i lost a 5link 6 socket unique drop

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all because you can't balance the league properly before you release it

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i lost so much loot to some bullshit one shot that should have NEVER happened to begin with

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they aren't even magic or higher

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i just want to be able to enjoy this league but how am i suppose to when i get one shot by something that should not one shot me?

livid birch Sep 22, 2020, 10:15 AM

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just dodge smh

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:16 AM

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that's the DUMBEST suggestion you could have ever given in this situation

livid birch Sep 22, 2020, 10:16 AM

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ik

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:16 AM

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there was litterally no time to dodge that

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none

livid birch Sep 22, 2020, 10:16 AM

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it was a joke

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:16 AM

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this is not the time for jokes

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i'm infuriated

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i lost good stuff and mission progress

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if i had gotten a fucking exalt from that, how was i suppose to get out!?

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there would be no chance

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 10:16 AM

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you sound squishy tbh

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:17 AM

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yes, but 1500 damage from 1 hit

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what if i got hit by 2 hits?

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that would have been a 2 shot

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 10:17 AM

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"positive resistances" is not exactly a good sign

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:17 AM

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which means a one shot

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45% lightning resist assuming they deal it

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level 54 mission

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that was only 2 enemies

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if i had 3 times the health which would be insane at level 54 and 75% resistance, all it takes is a group of like 6 to hit me at once which btw is not impossible for me to get one shot

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then there is the factor of healing

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i would not be able to heal fast enough to dodge all of that

livid birch Sep 22, 2020, 10:20 AM

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vanilla kinda has that with baranites im pretty sure

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 10:20 AM

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why's this image cropped so weird anyway

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:20 AM

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because i wanted to hightlight what killed me

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i already told you what i had

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 10:20 AM

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the rare up there at the top had nothing to do with it?

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:21 AM

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the door opened and a millisec after i got one shot

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i doubt the rare would have had the range

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let alone the speed

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 10:21 AM

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they lay a mine into the door

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its a shiny blue circle

livid birch Sep 22, 2020, 10:21 AM

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oh wait isnt it a thing where the enemies try to ambush door openings

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 10:22 AM

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yes thats what they do

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 10:22 AM

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that they do

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 10:22 AM

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you have to open in, step aside and then dash through

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or they will shoot you

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:22 AM

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there would have been no time for that

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i could step aside which i do most of the time

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but i usually don't have to

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because most won't attack unless i attack them or move too close

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the window of opportunity to avoid this death was so small that at the very least they are just barely overtuned

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1700 damage in one hit from a random monster is insane damage at level 54

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i could expect that from maps, but 54?

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usually i would get pinned down, recive rapid hits and die that way, but not get one shot by a random projectile, or trap if that's what hit me

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nice... the price just went from a transmute to orb of chance

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at least i get a use for them but they aren't super easy to come by

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i usually grind them over the entire league

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no, no fucking way

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i just died to the exact same thing!

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AGAIN

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EXACT, SAME, THING

short canopy Sep 22, 2020, 10:38 AM

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so can you go back to the chest after grand heist or not

bold basalt Sep 22, 2020, 10:39 AM

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Wew lad that's some good timed death

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Look at exp

mighty meteor Sep 22, 2020, 10:42 AM

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something i don't understand is how you can go around slathering everyone without triggering an alarm but regardless of your progress, obtaining the item at the end triggers the alarm. like come on, don't the guys following you have a way to disable the alarm before it triggers?

bold basalt Sep 22, 2020, 10:43 AM

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I just don't get why the heist target is not in middle of the instance

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There would be no need to backtrack

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GGG design choices are always questionable as f

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 10:47 AM

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yea why would you hide a special item you dont want to be stolen in the far back

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put it in the front so thieves can easily access it

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also dont lock it and dont put guards up

bold basalt Sep 22, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I am talking from gameplay perspective, not flavor

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Why doesn't adiyah just portal you to the end item room smh

analog atlas Sep 22, 2020, 10:56 AM

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is alert level rising on guard kill still a thing or fixed already?

last pumice Sep 22, 2020, 11:00 AM

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see a lot of people talking overtuned mobs. When does it get dangerous in heist?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 11:04 AM

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lvl 20?

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everything does a lot of dmg compared to all other mobs

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but, there is a really big jump from 67 to 69

last pumice Sep 22, 2020, 11:06 AM

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i am finding it fairly easy at lv 30ish . Doing a bleed build . It can get hectic but can face tank most things

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Worried I will get onshot if it jumps in damage thou

lost trench Sep 22, 2020, 11:20 AM

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are the heist followers league or character-bound, their levels and equipment?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 11:24 AM

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League

bold basalt Sep 22, 2020, 11:32 AM

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If you have high armor, most heists seem non one shotty

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So far got only one shot by overlapping beams, or some bomb stuff

karmic bay Sep 22, 2020, 11:33 AM

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The only thing nuking me into orbit is the mines in robot zones

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I guess they must be some chaos / phys bs

opal garden Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 AM

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can anyone explain reinforcement mechanic

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theres some stat on the contract that mentions it

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are they endless after you trigger the alarm?

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 11:57 AM

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yes

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reinforcements are the mobs that join after lockdown

analog knot Sep 22, 2020, 12:05 PM

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so can you stash between wings of a heist?

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grand heist

gleaming bolt Sep 22, 2020, 12:06 PM

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ANOD you need a player character "beacon" to make sure you enter the right instance of rogue harbour

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otherwise you lose the entrance portal

opal garden Sep 22, 2020, 12:08 PM

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reinforcements are the mobs that join after lockdown
@eager terrace whats the reinforcement stat on a contract then

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 12:08 PM

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pretty sure it's the amount of mobs that will spawn during escape

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or affixes that buff them specifically

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like there can be more or less mobs that will post up for ambushes at doors

opal garden Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

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mhm.

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it mentions alive mobs iirc

eager terrace Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

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"guards" are the mobs that don't move, "patrols" are the naturally moving mobs, "reinforcements" are mobs that only join after alert goes off

opal garden Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

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and i dont get tht part

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meaning if i keep less mobs alive there will be less reinforcements i guess?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 12:22 PM

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The more big chests you Open the more reinforcements you get

mellow beacon Sep 22, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Any news about when the bigger hotfix will be going up?

opal garden Sep 22, 2020, 12:38 PM

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The more big chests you Open the more reinforcements you get
@rigid stream what? nowhere it says that

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 12:48 PM

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It was in the trailer

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It opens hatches, you also See that because you get attacked when you Open a big chesr

ruby dew Sep 22, 2020, 12:50 PM

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~~How do I refresh/gain "reveals" for grand heists?~~
"run contracts" got it.
https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/552615024393322506/757845459430539305

Is it possible to refresh Whakano's stock of contracts? like, if you do a atlas mission of Zana she refreshes her stock. what's the heist/contract equivalent of that?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 12:52 PM

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Leveling Up and every 24h iirc

ruby dew Sep 22, 2020, 12:53 PM

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regarding the 24 hours, is that "24 hours after you last purchase" or "24 hours after the last time it refreshed"?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Uh i think its Server reset time?

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Whatever that time is for you

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Like 4 hours after League launch

ruby dew Sep 22, 2020, 1:00 PM

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thanksiez for the answers.

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okay, I lied, got another question. do I simply need to start a library heist for a new reveal? or complete it?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 1:18 PM

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complete

buoyant mango Sep 22, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Heist wishlift- #1 Being able to highlight in your hiest stash which contracts you have the npc levels to run.

vapid gazelle Sep 22, 2020, 1:29 PM

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I'm stuck :<

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analog atlas Sep 22, 2020, 1:38 PM

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is alert level still rising after killing guards?

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or was it already fixed in a patch?

copper kernel Sep 22, 2020, 1:38 PM

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patch isnt out yet

eternal eagle Sep 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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How do i escape from heist lol

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https://streamable.com/harmbs

Streamable

Path of Exile 2020-09-22 09-30-10

▶ Play video

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he wont blow up the door :/

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I keep spamming the button every few seconds for him to blow it up and nothing

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rip my exalt drop

young forge Sep 22, 2020, 2:06 PM

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go away and the back

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and try click again

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worked for me

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little late maybe

eternal eagle Sep 22, 2020, 2:09 PM

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did that

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didnt work

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tried just sitting at the door and spamming the button every 15 seconds it would pop up

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also tried going back to objective

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nothing worked, filed bug report with videos

junior belfry Sep 22, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Anoyne know of any good videos out yet going over all the heist mechanics and how they work, I just got to maps and and going to start doing tome heists now.

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 2:52 PM

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can someone explain

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noble wren Sep 22, 2020, 3:44 PM

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what gear/levels do I need before starting heists? I can clear T12 maps pretty easily but plain gray heists are very rippy for me

ruby dew Sep 22, 2020, 3:51 PM

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I haven't even run tier 3 maps but heists are going okay for me (level 74 necromancer, running level 68 and 71 heists) 🤔
are you resists and health good?

livid escarp Sep 22, 2020, 3:56 PM

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elfin summit Sep 22, 2020, 4:05 PM

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is there any list of what these icons represent i keep forgeting what is what

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for the big chests ofc

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 4:07 PM

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incubators and legion splinters

cursive widget Sep 22, 2020, 4:12 PM

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I feel like QOL is going to be amazing once you can kill mobs and it won’t raise your alert level

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Basically it’s just loot and kill everything and run back after that lmaoooo

frigid holly Sep 22, 2020, 4:13 PM

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I didn't engage with the league mechanic until maps, and now I find that all the level appropriate ones need hirlings with various levels of training. Is there any guide to what lower level heists to run to train up the NPCs in an efficient manner?

noble wren Sep 22, 2020, 4:16 PM

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@ruby dew resist capped, 4.1k life, level 87. Idk why I'm having such a hard time with heists lol

ruby dew Sep 22, 2020, 4:17 PM

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now I'm worried I won't be making be able to heist at that level notLikeThis

noble wren Sep 22, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I feel like the scaling is off in heists level wise. Blue packs from gray heists take 2-4 times as long to kill for me when compared to blue packs from alched/vaal'd tier 10-12s

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I'm playing TR trickster, so potentially heists mobs have more base chaos resist and thats why its slower? idk, just a thought

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:26 PM

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the scaling is off a bit, but the big stuff are a lot of the mods the heist enemies are given

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also keep in mind so many rares with auras spawn

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that those magic mobs are getting mega boosted

noble wren Sep 22, 2020, 4:26 PM

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makes sense

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:26 PM

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half the times in the big heist fights for me, there is like 5 rares with 2 magic packs

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that and the heist maps if you are alching them, provide a lot of damage reduction traits

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the worst i have seen is +25% physical damage reduction and +20% attack speed/move speed

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makes it super rippy lol

frigid venture Sep 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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which grandheist tileset is the one with the bugged reward door?

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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so they got magic packs with +move speed with a rare for haste, crit, and damage.

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that said, the best trick i have found is run out all the way to the end

verbal crest Sep 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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patch isnt up yet?

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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after triggering alarm

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and then farm them as they run in in the last room

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if it gets too deadly, or if you stop getting drops/exp, you are right at the exit

hollow blade Sep 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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so how do we lvl the crew past level 3?

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some gear requires lvl 4 but my members seem hardstuck at lvl 3

ruby dew Sep 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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(some other gear requires level 5)

restive geode Sep 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Does someone knows why sometimes you're allowed to go back in the Heist if you die?

rigid stream Sep 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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You are allowed to Go Back If the Alarm hasnt started

ruby dew Sep 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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@restive geode as far as I've experienced (could be wrong)
"if alert is triggered death means the end of the heist"
"if no alert triggered, you can come back"

restive geode Sep 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Ahh thanks 🙂

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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im not sure how to get people past level 3, actually

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i dont have anyone at skill level 4

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and i think all nine of my guys are maxed on all skills now

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i have done 10 of the 15 green missions, so im wondering if it has something to do with those

twin crater Sep 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I think green missions aren't needed to lvl up your guys

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valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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huh, ill have to recheck

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i know i have no one at 4+

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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They are. Initially none of your skills will go past 3.

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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that said, im super interested in the rewards layout you just posted

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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The table above is at max cap.

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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it seems like i should only do engenieering or lockpicking lol

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maps/uniques seems quite nice

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currency/sets is also decent

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everything else is kinda meh lol

shy lance Sep 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Depends on what you are after Demolition/Trap Disarment/Agility are also quite decent.

valid isle Sep 22, 2020, 5:01 PM

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seems like deception and brute force are probably the worst

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unless they are far more likely to drop 6l or something

wanton rivet Sep 22, 2020, 5:04 PM

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guess ima vendor my deception/brute contracts now lol