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patent flame Sep 17, 2020, 10:50 AM

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hexblast deals chaos damage, so no i highly doubt it can be affected by pen gems

languid path Sep 17, 2020, 10:53 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/iu8ekg/path_of_exile_heist_gem_information/g5jouw4/

r/pathofexile - Comment by u/Mark_GGG on ”Path of Exile: Heist Gem ...

950 votes and 1,446 comments so far on Reddit

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mark says yes

livid lake Sep 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

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oh, noice

drowsy tide Sep 17, 2020, 10:56 AM

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enhance finally viable?

vivid agate Sep 17, 2020, 12:24 PM

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how do you alternate quality a gem?

zealous monolith Sep 17, 2020, 12:30 PM

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it drops that way

crisp tree Sep 17, 2020, 12:39 PM

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it drops from heist and gheist

vivid agate Sep 17, 2020, 1:01 PM

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😔 so its just gonna be rng

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best ones will cost a fortune too

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Umm

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Hexblast says all damage applies the ailments

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Don't even need stormfire to do archmage ignite with it

wide basin Sep 17, 2020, 2:22 PM

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I doubt any will be worth a fortune unless they level it to 21 and stuff but the base cost will be in some cases likely a sum of Chaos

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:35 PM

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you'd need to use gcp to get to 20% qual

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they won't always come at 20%

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so gcp might be valuable lol

copper kernel Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 PM

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unlikely

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

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anyway there are about 23847298345723 meme builds i need to try

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voltaxic spark and inverse flameblast being the big ones

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maybe poison flameblast

frosty basin Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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How does one obtain alternate quality gems?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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grand heists

dusty cove Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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i recall when Voltaxic spark was a real build 😛

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then GGG took a hammer to Voltaxic and it languished forever more in darkness

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 2:45 PM

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i like that you get to choose between, what is it, 5 different alt qual gems in the gem room?

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same with replica uniques and experimented base types i think

mental kelp Sep 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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would be nice if heist is leveling friendly

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back in legion i got 4 leveling uniques in act 3

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it was great

left raft Sep 17, 2020, 4:03 PM

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has ggg said anything about how much ES drain frost shield does?

marble ginkgo Sep 17, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Can bane apply Marks?

ebon fiber Sep 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Modified

Chaos, Trigger, Spell, AoE, Duration, Hex

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Nope, Bane is hex only

marble ginkgo Sep 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Thanks a bunch

upbeat blade Sep 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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can u get multiple alternatives for a gem? Or is it only 1 per gem

devout osprey Sep 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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2-3

civic crow Sep 17, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Is spell echo + crackling lance work? I mean, 2 intensity charge or just count as 1

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:17 PM

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just 1

civic crow Sep 17, 2020, 4:17 PM

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sad

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:17 PM

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if you have enough cast speed it will still be worth it though

civic crow Sep 17, 2020, 4:18 PM

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but it woukldn't be good to pair it with archmage

upbeat blade Sep 17, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@devout osprey i can get 2-3 extra stats on my gems?

devout osprey Sep 17, 2020, 4:27 PM

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no, there is 2-3 alt versions of the gems

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so you can only have 1 of the time

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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(unless you use 2 gems with different qual?)

devout osprey Sep 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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but then its not 1 gem

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its 2

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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y right but it would work?

devout osprey Sep 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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yes

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:29 PM

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then i hope there is a gem with 2 good qualities

devout osprey Sep 17, 2020, 4:30 PM

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but then you give up a gem slot for a 2nd lets say arc

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from arc- support - support - support -support - support

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to arc- arc - support - support -support - support

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:30 PM

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yeah, not that much into poe to tell if it could be useful. but would be nice if enhance support had a use

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maybe there is a case

devout osprey Sep 17, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I have used it on portal gem and heralds

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Big question guys - Reave alternate quality gives +2 stages - will that work with valled version or not?

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:32 PM

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well not worth to waste another support on those, even if 6l

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maybe a 6l portal 😄

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:33 PM

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If not it's useless

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Big question guys - Reave alternate quality gives +2 stages - will that work with valled version or not?
@clear gust that was asked already; i'd argue: what happens if you vaal an alternate gem? it should retain the quality i hope...

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Ther thing is, there was info it will retain

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the*

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so probably it will be still max 8 on valled one

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vaaled*

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Vaal Reave grants 4 stacks, then hits to gain 4 more, so alternate Vaal Reave would just let me have 6 stacks without using vaal version

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It won't add on top of max i think ;/

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:36 PM

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i see. not sure... does quality affect the vaal version in general? i'd guess but not sure

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Nope

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They said the quality works for non-vaal versions of skill on corrupted gems

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:36 PM

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well then that's your answer

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Still, alternate quality reave would be inferior to vaal reave

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:37 PM

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that is quite common among vaal versions

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Being better than alternate quality gems?

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:38 PM

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being better than the base non-vaal skill

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Uh, You know vaal reave only lets You add more stages to use with non-vaal skill?

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:39 PM

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nope, i play caster or bow mostly

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Basically gives You few attacks in a fast succesion but its trash

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Every attack with reave gives you 1 stage. Vaal version gives you 4 instant and possibility to get 4 more since 4 is max for base

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:40 PM

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still you obviously won't get that. and some of the alt's make the gem worse for me anyway

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:40 PM

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it retains it ffor base

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if You keep fighting

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Best thing - one of the first reveals showed reave with alternate quality giving 100% conversion to a random element

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you vaal the gem

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and use vaal version to get stages

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You are dead to phys reflect xD

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Reave gains 50% more aoe per stage

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:43 PM

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+2 max stage reave might be nice

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:43 PM

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its still 6 stages vs 8 from vaal

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it doesnt add on top

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If i understand correctly

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:44 PM

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well yeah the quality doesn't do that for vaal reave

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you wouldn't be using vaal reave anyway

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:44 PM

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so you end up with +2 stages on the normal, which u use anyway

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:44 PM

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you'd have to be very lucky to get that corruption

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Lucien, 21/23 vaal reave goes for 15-20c first week of the league

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since legion

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:45 PM

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you don't understand

nimble lark Sep 17, 2020, 4:45 PM

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but not alt qual

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:45 PM

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alt quality gems don't come as 21/23

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they come as level 1 gems

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Whats the use of +2 stages if vaal is +4?

nimble lark Sep 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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the main point is that they drop only from heist

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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because vaal reave can only be used an amount of times per map?

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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you only need to use it once

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?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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for the whole map? lol

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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stages used doesnt disappear for base skill

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stages gained*

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using base reave reset the duration for ALL stacks

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as long as you hit something you dont lose 8 stacks from vaal

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reave

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thats the point

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i use vaal reave 2 times per map at most

shut quarry Sep 17, 2020, 4:48 PM

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hit every 3s, yep

marsh oracle Sep 17, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Problem with reave is you can't stop

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:48 PM

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its 3 sec...

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 4:48 PM

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so you just don't pick up items lol

clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 4:48 PM

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umm i do?

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is there a lot of items to pick up? lol

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even picking up alterations or transmutes after legion or any other event you end up with 2 uses of vaal reave

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charged

twilit coral Sep 17, 2020, 5:02 PM

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just a question of the synergy, in a frostbolt totem build

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clear gust Sep 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Now that's... peculiar

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Totem is the 'you' in this case

twilit coral Sep 17, 2020, 5:06 PM

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fine, means they just return to totem in both

little ibex Sep 17, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I am debating making a summoner, have we been able to tell from the videos if that will be unplayable in heists?

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minions are not sneaky

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Careful minions might be fine

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Something like dropping a couple skeletons at the edge of your screen

little ibex Sep 17, 2020, 5:25 PM

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yeah I am just cautious because I have played summoner before and there are occasional things that are a pain to do with them

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but so far I haven't seen a whole league mechanic that would be a problem

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Well

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Killing enemies raises the alarm

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And you'd most likely want to kill less to get more loot chests

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Short aggro range minions that you can convoke when needed sounds like the best solution

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Meatshield chains of command sounds fun vanity

velvet palm Sep 17, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I assume people will complain about the killing - raising alarm thing to the point it gets removed in a couple weeks templarLul

sonic void Sep 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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will necro ruin the alert level with minions killing stuff?

vivid agate Sep 17, 2020, 5:48 PM

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you guys think spawning totems and the old ones going away counts as death?

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torpid sonnet Sep 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

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It does for soul mantle

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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New totems are new totems templarLul

timid geyser Sep 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@vivid agate Just note decoy totem has 4s cd

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but yes it does

hasty perch Sep 17, 2020, 6:21 PM

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exploding decoy totem build

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templarLul

limber spire Sep 17, 2020, 6:51 PM

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you know what, i'm actually okay with giving up a gem slot for permanent 10% movespeed

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timid geyser Sep 17, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Just link enhance and now you get 24% MS for 2 sockets.

barren crescent Sep 17, 2020, 7:13 PM

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thats not permanent

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Infecting is when you're draining it

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That's permanent 10% reduced chaos taken tho

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And that's neat

mossy frost Sep 17, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Any1 know if the new poachers mark flat phys will apply to the base for bleeds on hits?

native sonnet Sep 17, 2020, 7:26 PM

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yes

nimble lark Sep 17, 2020, 7:35 PM

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frostbolts have no final target

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they pierce all targets

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so no return im guessing

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unless you can do something that makes it stop piercing

strong grail Sep 17, 2020, 7:46 PM

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ocean narwhal Sep 17, 2020, 7:59 PM

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that could be stronk

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Snakepit ring can stop it from piercing

nimble lark Sep 17, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I just wish return could work on magma orb

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for sire of shards return magma orb xd

sharp iron Sep 17, 2020, 8:21 PM

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If you want to prevent Piercing, then Kineticism can do that while giving you bleeds and maims https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kineticism

Path of Exile Wiki

Kineticism

Kineticism is a cluster jewel-only keystone passive skill that causes attack projectiles to always inflict Bleeding and Maim, as well as Knocking Back enemies, at the price of being unable to pierce, fork, or chain.

ocean narwhal Sep 17, 2020, 8:25 PM

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That's not great for spellcasters though

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Snakepits better for them tho

sharp iron Sep 17, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Okay

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Yeah, being able to inflict bleed with non-physical skills doesn't do much.

ocean narwhal Sep 17, 2020, 8:29 PM

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that node doesn't effect spells at all, outside of stopping pierce, fork and chain

spiral cipher Sep 17, 2020, 8:29 PM

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omfg

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thats really good

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that's really fucking good

sharp iron Sep 17, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I didn't look at what skill was being talked about, only that people were mentioning preventing piercing

spiral cipher Sep 17, 2020, 8:30 PM

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kineticism prevents fork

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buyt i was thinking about it for shattering steel @sharp iron

ocean narwhal Sep 17, 2020, 8:30 PM

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so?

sharp iron Sep 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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So are you thinking about running a Shattering Steel build of the league, Bluey?

rare rose Sep 17, 2020, 8:40 PM

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As usual on reddit, different people claiming their guess is the correct answer... anyone here actually have knowledge and a source regarding whether the Toxic Rain alt gem "20% reduced buff effect" impacts just the -10% movement speed, or also the DoT??

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*debuff effect, sorry

silver kettle Sep 17, 2020, 8:45 PM

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it also affects the DoT @rare rose

spiral cipher Sep 17, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Heist gonna be fantastic right?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 8:56 PM

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can totems gain charges

wild arch Sep 17, 2020, 9:00 PM

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No

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They use your charges

lean lark Sep 17, 2020, 9:02 PM

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i assume with so many options available the alternate quality gems will start dropping in heists at level 1, yes?

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same for replica uniques?

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no reason they wouldn't?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:09 PM

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no, i mean cooldown charges

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with second wind

lean lark Sep 17, 2020, 9:10 PM

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yes

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if you have flame dash totem with second wind and spell totem, you can cast the totem 4 times before having to wait for the cd as expected, but each totem will also be able to cast flame dash 4 times before having to wait for its own cd

echo shale Sep 17, 2020, 9:35 PM

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what's the use of this

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native sonnet Sep 17, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Meme, or extra ms from the sandstorm while in blood, or extra dps from blood while mqintaining sand

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But mostly meme

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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they gave frenzy an alternate quality that gives +1 strike target

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so i wrote a hollow palm melee raider frenzy build

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and it's good ???

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4m dps on budget gear (besides the jewel) lol

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and i'll be using punishment for sick clear

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maybe i'll write a build guide for this one, it's really fucking easy to make once you have any currency at all

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is the anoint ancestral dude only for weapons?

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nope

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just "strike skills target 1 additional enemy"

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it's also not an anoint anymore

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velvet palm Sep 17, 2020, 9:47 PM

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it's not anoint only*

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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lol i just took that build from 4m to 5m dps just by messing with the tree a bit

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still has 4k life, 200% movespeed, and 95% evade chance

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oh and it has fortify lul

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velvet palm Sep 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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4k life monkaS

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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SC high avoidance build my dude

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it will survive most shit

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fortify and steelskin help a bit as well

velvet palm Sep 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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5.5k is like the minimum to avoid common random one shots in maps

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:56 PM

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i'll definitely write a guide for this after i play it

sour mountain Sep 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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To solve squishiness, kintsugi and wind dancer

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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nope

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wind dancer is probably a good idea

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but i'm not using kintsugi

sour mountain Sep 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Why not

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It's a good chest

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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because wildwrap gives too much damage

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and i want this build to stay around 5m dps

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no less

sour mountain Sep 17, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Ehhh... can t craft better with influence?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 9:59 PM

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sure, but i also want this to be omega budget

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i only write builds that can get to endgame on a budget

sour mountain Sep 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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For a starter or a mid league?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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mid league

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since delirium is a zana mod this league hollow palm should be a reasonable price

barren crescent Sep 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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How much is your scope of reasonable budget?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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that and the 6l wildwrap should be the most expensive items for the build

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<5ex

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total

barren crescent Sep 17, 2020, 10:00 PM

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fair

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as gems bought at 20/20 and stuff or self leveled?

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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don't need 20/20 gems

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just level 20

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so self leveled

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it's a build you can start from level 1

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as long as you have the jewel

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anyway i'm keeping the build at 5m dps mostly because i want to say 10 for damage when i put the build in #build-guides eventually lol

sour mountain Sep 17, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Build is a bit soft on defense imo. But you do you

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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alright, the build is more or less finalized now

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!pob https://pastebin.com/XHtEn3SG

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rigid lakeBOT Sep 17, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Frenzy - Raider (Lvl: 94) by: Lucien

Defenses

Life: 4,037 (164%) | Reg: 105/s (2.6%) | Leech 807/s (20.0%)
Mana: 168/673 (0%) | Reg: 12/s (1.8%) | Leech 135/s (20.0%)

Secondary Defense

Secondary: Evasion: 16,337 | Dodge: 66% | Spell Dodge: 40%
Attributes: Str: 387 Int: 149 Dex: 916
Keystones: Phase Acrobatics, Wind Dancer, Acrobatics

DPS

Total DPS: 5,113,241@ 13.92/s
Impale DPS: 2,477,550

Charges

Frenzy: 8/8

Skill

Frenzy + Impale + Brutality + Multistrike + Fortify + Melee Physical Damage

Configuration

Player: Leeching, Fortify, Onslaught
Playerskill: Stance: Blood
Playercharge: FC
Enemy: Boss: Sirus

Info:

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Created in Path of Building.

violet nymph Sep 17, 2020, 10:06 PM

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can't wait to play it 😛

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it has wind dancer now

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so wind dancer + fortify should make it pretty defensive even at 4k life

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something important to take note of is that it requires this alt quality to feel good while clearing

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so hopefully it won't be too expensive lol

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the only reason i made the build is because i saw that alt quality

sour mountain Sep 17, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Alt quality gems might be a big deal. That said you can... can you frost blades while unarmed?

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I would say that last one, damage with ailments would be great. Poison frenzy could be spicy

upbeat ice Sep 17, 2020, 11:50 PM

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What's the going odds on heist going core?

limber spire Sep 17, 2020, 11:51 PM

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the alt quality gems will probably return in some way

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there's no way they'd cut that after this league

wanton rivet Sep 17, 2020, 11:51 PM

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99%

placid grotto Sep 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Depends

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If it's not well received, it'll be delayed

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Most likely it's testing proof of concept for poe2 and the individual parts are already in the game

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Looks like Incursion Rev3 mixed with Betrayal rev2

last river Sep 18, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Heist has a higher chance than most leagues of not going core

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GGG might not want too many parallel progression systems

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Heists might be judged to be not different enough from maps

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Same reasoning as synthesis not going core

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Well, that and the fact that synthesis was the worst modern league

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Also I just remembered the fact that the intensify node exists and will probably be mandatory for crackling lance builds

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With that, crackling lance + intensify gives the spell a 2.2 * 1.66 damage multiplier

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Which blows arc out of the water

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Shame that no ascendancy is a clear match for a skill like crackling lance. Has anyone come up with anything that it's an obvious choice for?

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IT's so weird that the one thing that's hard to build around in PoE is a spell that you cast yourself

storm crown Sep 18, 2020, 1:03 AM

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alternative quality makes for fun use of enhance support

ocean narwhal Sep 18, 2020, 1:06 AM

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you can go assassin with it

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or you can go inquisitor or elementalist.

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I wonder if the loot will be contentious on the ol reddit

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"I did a blueprint and all i got was gems and bases that I'll never use!"

wild arch Sep 18, 2020, 1:14 AM

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I mean

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You can do any build you want with assassin

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Except minions probably

placid grotto Sep 18, 2020, 1:19 AM

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That complaint could have merit. It all depends on investment vs accessibility vs reward

wanton rivet Sep 18, 2020, 3:18 AM

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ele can run any spell based guy really well

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golem tree is so good

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 3:29 AM

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better now that golems don't yeet out of existence when you leave the game

ocean narwhal Sep 18, 2020, 4:07 AM

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wow what the heck is that astrolabe amulet

toxic pine Sep 18, 2020, 4:23 AM

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a massive bait is what it is

ocean narwhal Sep 18, 2020, 4:31 AM

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I want one for memes sake

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I wanna slam it with some dumb fossil and see what happens

carmine hare Sep 18, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Some questions about Impending Doom/Doom Blast:

What curse influences the damage: those whitch was expired/removed or the new one (new curse removes the previous one and triggers Doom Blast)?
The skill has cooldown of 0,15 sec and 3 uses. Does it mean that at max 3 curses on monster can trigger Doom blast (if I remove them all at one moment)?

ocean narwhal Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Prime Regrading Lens
Secondary Regrading Lens
Tempering Orb
Tailoring Orb

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Whatre these?

barren ingot Sep 18, 2020, 4:53 AM

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the former, as far as i'm aware: the game goes "hi it is time to remove hex," damage calculations for hexblast/doom blast occur, then hex is removed. we know damage calc happens before hex is removed because profane bloom still happens. While it's not known for certain, it's likely if you're pushing a old curse off with a new curse, the new curse probably won't factor into damage calculations.

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because the curse would probably be applied after all the various hexblast shenanagins happen.

carmine hare Sep 18, 2020, 6:03 AM

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@barren ingot thanks

bleak crypt Sep 18, 2020, 6:37 AM

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hey. does sombody know if impending doom dmg is increased by the curse on the enemy

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i think it ends before the dmg is applied but im not sure

bronze cave Sep 18, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Is there any additional information on the content that will be added later after release?

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Like, is the league just launching without half of its intended bosses now or is it more like a bonus addition?

copper kernel Sep 18, 2020, 7:07 AM

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shrug

frail bluff Sep 18, 2020, 7:12 AM

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" if you don't get out in time (or die) during a heist, any contraband items you have will be removed from your inventory! "

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This really suks, we all know poe crash a lot

idle zenith Sep 18, 2020, 7:13 AM

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Astrolabe seems insane if you manage to roll well. Chaos spamming dream

frail bluff Sep 18, 2020, 7:13 AM

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gl haha

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it can be op af and very hard to roll

bronze cave Sep 18, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Oh well, I hope they tell us a bit about the missing content

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Them being tied to challenges really makes this feel like a feature incomplete launch, and not like an additional bonus patch

frail bluff Sep 18, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Yeah they will release some league content (bosses)? tied to challenges after a week i think?

barren crescent Sep 18, 2020, 7:38 AM

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+3 amulet, np

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 7:43 AM

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peepoexalt

frigid venture Sep 18, 2020, 9:35 AM

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tfw you wanted something like astrolabe back in harvest templarSad

barren crescent Sep 18, 2020, 9:59 AM

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just throw faceted fossils at it

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templarLul

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Just wait one week for the game to pass beta. As with every league launch.

velvet palm Sep 18, 2020, 10:19 AM

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one week? marauderthinking

frigid venture Sep 18, 2020, 10:19 AM

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but fusings peak at 1week

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gotta get them within the first 4 days to have an early 6link

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is it possible to get awakened supports with alt quality peepoexalt

silver kettle Sep 18, 2020, 10:23 AM

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No

frigid venture Sep 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

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is this additive or multiplicative with the "10% less" on the base gem?

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i.e. effective damage will be 30% less or 28% less?

velvet palm Sep 18, 2020, 11:23 AM

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it's less

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not reduced

wild lark Sep 18, 2020, 11:32 AM

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should it be 10/15 and not 15/10?

limber escarp Sep 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

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what should be better as starter in your opinion guys, after mines nerf? BL or skelemancer?

copper kernel Sep 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

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you can just start mines again

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they didnt get nerfed that much

frigid venture Sep 18, 2020, 11:52 AM

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@velvet palm turns out it's additive

velvet palm Sep 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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well that's fucking stupid

frigid venture Sep 18, 2020, 11:55 AM

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here's proof

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there's a reason why i asked that in the first place vanity

crisp tree Sep 18, 2020, 12:22 PM

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vanity

uneven silo Sep 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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guy

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what is nearby in that gem

limber spire Sep 18, 2020, 12:41 PM

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nobody knows

last river Sep 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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So are the discharge changes a nerf overall? BEcause they kinda seem like a nerf

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Hard capping the cd to 250s is brutal

rotund pine Sep 18, 2020, 2:22 PM

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😃 is there a crackling lance build laying around for us noobs?

spiral light Sep 18, 2020, 2:27 PM

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without any cdr the dps is the same
but yeah not being able to reduce the cd is itself a nerf

crude sierra Sep 18, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Hi, is there any info in regards to ancestral bond + flame wall? Will projectiles fired by totems get increased damage or not since I cant deal damage myself thus flame wall deals 0?

sudden laurel Sep 18, 2020, 2:41 PM

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anyone know what classes get access to flame wall at level 4?

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witch? marauder?

blissful onyx Sep 18, 2020, 2:56 PM

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probably witch and templar

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Maybe scion

quaint echo Sep 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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is it true you will get a 10 alt quality drops at once in heist?

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like minimum ?

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maybe on grand heist wing or smth

coral garden Sep 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Nah u get 1

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Then reddit will bitch about it and u get 2 after 2 weeks

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 3:40 PM

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iirc you get to choose a single gem out of like 5

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which is very nice imo

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same with replica uniques

celest salmon Sep 18, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Guys, i played pretty much only totems for 6 years. Last two leagues freezig pulse, and it made me a bit burndout. Since GGG Killed flame totem, and i dont see any alternative totem build... Any suggestion for something tanky, and pretty strong? Or maybe some unusual totem build that wont suck?

rich orbit Sep 18, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Go play new fire skill totems with fire wall

celest salmon Sep 18, 2020, 3:56 PM

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To be fair, none of new skills look interesting at all. Well, maybe that black hole one, but w/e

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:00 PM

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flame dash totems

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u know what

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dash totems

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for maximum confusion

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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@last river they're not a nerf just changes it

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because the new one triggered is twice the old one triggered

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but has a lot more aoe

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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how is blazing salvo not an interesting totem build lol

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it looks so cool

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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and you get easily more charges

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yeah

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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because the new one triggered is twice the old one triggered

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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salvo looks fun

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:06 PM

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What do you mean?

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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old one had a trigger less damage too

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and counting it

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old triggered discharge did 50% of new triggered discharge

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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I guess that's true. It's gonna be hell keeping your attack speed below 4 though

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Or getting multiple sources of cdr

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:08 PM

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it's clearly not a cospri's discharge

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new one is better with a 7L shaper supported by CoC weapon

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it would be obnoxious to fine tune ice nova/frostbolts with CDR and .250 trigger discharge

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you'd basically have to stop at .125

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new one got a much better AoE tho

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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coc swords are still pretty fast. You might not even be able to take ass ellusive node

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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there's different bases tho

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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some redditor did calcs

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it's like 9% more dmg

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new discharge when triggered vs old

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plus u need to waste a jewel

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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yes but you'd technically often get more charges to discharge on bosses

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Exquisite blade implicit has 0.05 less aps than the slowest aps sword base

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:10 PM

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if you use stormbrand to generate more on bosses which you should

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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What's the proper discharge setup nowadays anyway

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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so the occasional +1/2 charges makes a diff

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Inyas, devotion, and...

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How does discharge make frenzies?

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:11 PM

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you can't on CoC

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because voll's protector gives you the keystone making frenzy generation give you power charge and 4% more spell damage

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Ohhh right

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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think i saw a build running frenzies + powers

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Actually you wouldn't want frenzies would you

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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that's not a CoC discharge

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Would push you over aps limit lmao

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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was CoC

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:12 PM

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you can run frenzies + power with badge and farrul

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i really don't see how you'd get good uptime on those with farrul at .250 trigger rate

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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o nvm

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was endurance

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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you'd need aspect to switch twice per .250

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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not frenzies

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:13 PM

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yah makes sense

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with voll's amulet

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it looks pretty good tbh

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as CoC

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as it's locked you don't need to stack CDR

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Also how does current coc discharge do on bosses? Seems like its power generation would be inconsistent if you're only critting once per attack and have 25% chance to max out once per power charge generation

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:14 PM

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can get "better" gear

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you'd run stormbrand + PCoC

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:15 PM

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2680909

Path of Exile

Shadow - [3.12 Ready?] CoC Discharge Assassin - 20M+ Shaper DPS - F...

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:15 PM

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should be able to generate bonus charges

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:15 PM

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20M+ dps allegedly

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:15 PM

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i'm not sure if brand can get +2 charge on a PCoC proc with voll's

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but if it does it's even better

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that would mean that one storm brand proc lets you hit a +4 power charge discharge in the worst case scenario

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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and the funny thing is that CDR might not even help this build

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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and 4 chances to max it

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at 25%

nimble lark Sep 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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cause the jewel has an "is" modifier

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:16 PM

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yes

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that's why i said you can get "better" gear

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like not having to pay CDR on boots and belt

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can get much better items for the same price

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as CoC is often popular they tend to skyrocket the price

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Wait will cdr not work on new discharge?

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Why not

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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because the jewel says CD is x

last river Sep 18, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Huh.

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Interesting

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:18 PM

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maybe it works but it looks like it won't

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if it does it's a LOT stronger

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because .250 is less than double the CD

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for double damage

wary smelt Sep 18, 2020, 4:20 PM

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what builds u guys going?

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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freezing pulse assassin

hasty perch Sep 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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idk

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i'll wait and see how the skills look a bit

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since i don't play at leaguestart

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but a few hours later

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:29 PM

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i just know that pinpoint allows you to get some average single target damage out of freezing pulse

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and that assassin makes freezing pulse very good for clear selfcast

sterile fulcrum Sep 18, 2020, 4:30 PM

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what lol

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everything you said is the opposite

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pinpoint allows you to get 90% MORE damage in a single support gem. And assassin is great in terms of scaling freezing pulses damage thru crit

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It has elusive and movement stuff but that doesn’t correlate to freezing pulse’s clear

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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yes, average single target

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freezing pulse isn't a monstrous singletarget skill

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my pob says 740k right now, once new assassin's mark, frost shield, and pinpoint come out in pob, it will be like... 1.5-2m dps probably

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which is average

sterile fulcrum Sep 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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weird how a lot of people league start freezing pulse totems for ez boss kills

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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average =/= bad

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but good singletarget is like 3m+ dps

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assassin is amazing for clear because of ambush/assassinate

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that node alone makes freezing pulse amazing for clear

wary smelt Sep 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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i always thought 5mil was average and 10mil + is good lol

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i'm kinda tempted to go blazing salvo self cast with fork/chain for clear

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but i kinda feel like all the new skills aren't gonna be that good

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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i don't think blazing salvo can fork or chain

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kinda like molten strike

native sonnet Sep 18, 2020, 4:42 PM

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it says on the reveal page it can fork

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dunno about chain, and unsure the distance/fork behaviour

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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https://web.poecdn.com/protected/image/heist/screenshots/Panel13/Screenshot1.jpg?key=rWll0xPIGs8K5hHYOA5-fg

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"while Fork lets the mortars split into two if they hit enemies, with each exploding separately."

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i see now

wary smelt Sep 18, 2020, 4:45 PM

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literally only reason i wanna self cast is cuz pinpoint support only works with self cast

severe turret Sep 18, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Does anyone know if Cooldown from Discharge Threshold Jewel With at least 40 Intelligence in Radius, Discharge Cooldown is 250 ms can be scaled by CooldownRecovery from say belt OR is it hard-set at 0.25 seconds?

wild arch Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Pinpoint salvo is just molten strike but actually playable

wary smelt Sep 18, 2020, 4:52 PM

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no one knows yet for discharge

severe turret Sep 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I assume it's treated the same as Al Dhih variant with Warcry Skills' Cooldown Time is 4 seconds which I believe GGG stated is hard-set at 4 and not affected

wild arch Sep 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I bought stygian molten strike right before they slaughtered it

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Never felt so betrayed

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Would be neat to have the same stygian effect on salvo

severe turret Sep 18, 2020, 4:55 PM

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anyways, assuming it's like Al Dhih, have it already implemented for PoB then. If it can be scaled let me know and I'll fix it.

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 4:55 PM

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basically if it's hardcapped at 250 then cwc will probably be the best for it

harsh bone Sep 18, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Are contracts different than blueprints?

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 PM

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yes

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blueprints are for grand heists

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contracts are mini-heists

harsh bone Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 PM

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And you get blueprints from contracts right?

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 5:04 PM

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i think you can get blueprints from normal monsters as well as contract monsters

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i don't entirely know how that works

harsh bone Sep 18, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Sounds good. This should be fun 🙂

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Do we know how to gain intelligence for grand heist?

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As in revealing rewards room

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 5:09 PM

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i think you just buy it with marks

split slate Sep 18, 2020, 5:16 PM

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what is this heist thing

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i dont get it :(

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 5:21 PM

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fight monsters, get contracts

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go to rogue harbor, do contracts from there

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be sneaky or wreck everything, just get the artifact and other loot

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trade for marks

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find blueprints for bigger heists, use marks from contracts and other places to reveal it and hire people for the job

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go in

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get thicc loot

wild arch Sep 18, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Betrayal but you're the bad guy

signal frigate Sep 18, 2020, 5:26 PM

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hey guys what should i do? i like to read the chat in global at leaguestart but i want to go quickly through the story

wild arch Sep 18, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Play minions and do both vanity

spiral cipher Sep 18, 2020, 5:47 PM

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betrayel but your the good guy.

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I mean catarina wasn't actually a bad guy is the crazy part of betrayel.

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She just pissed off jun

sonic summit Sep 18, 2020, 5:49 PM

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i mean she did systematically sacrifice innocent people to empower her immortality artifact and planned to rule the world

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but yeah the main thing is she pissed off jun

spiral cipher Sep 18, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I mean ruling the world isn't a bad thing.

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she's one of the few people that can actually control undead on a non mindless level after all.

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Think of how much better wraeclast would be with catarina in power

sonic summit Sep 18, 2020, 5:51 PM

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frankly, i think merely existing in Wraeclast is a recipe for disaster at this point

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nevermind trying to control and rule it

storm flint Sep 18, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Does this look like a league where it's going to be box loot like blight or mob loot like breach, or a combo like legion? Is there value in magic find for the heists themselves?

spiral cipher Sep 18, 2020, 5:54 PM

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I think of catarina as what most people refer to as llawful neutral/good villain imo

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Strict ass morale code. Beleives in eqality and has a cause.

storm flint Sep 18, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Questions of alignment can only be applied in the context of the cultural norms of their world. Wraeclast is fucked in that regard.

spiral cipher Sep 18, 2020, 5:59 PM

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That's fair so looking at a morality perspective lets say she's

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Order+Undeath+Atheist

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or at least a very neutral god

nocturne sand Sep 18, 2020, 6:13 PM

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whats the name of the beefcake thief? not in to dudes but that guy just looks so badass

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busts through walls and stuff

native sonnet Sep 18, 2020, 6:14 PM

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tibbs

nocturne sand Sep 18, 2020, 6:14 PM

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thats it thnks!

trail tiger Sep 18, 2020, 6:30 PM

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do these thieves level up or is it just gear that increase them?

wary smelt Sep 18, 2020, 6:37 PM

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they level up iirc

hazy vault Sep 18, 2020, 6:48 PM

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i wonder if we can rush acts then level in peace at level 75+ areas or if we'll be forced to do mechanic

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and if not, how party leveling works

fallen tulip Sep 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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you arent forced to do mechanic lol

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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you can literally stockpile the entirety of the mechanic

trail tiger Sep 18, 2020, 7:08 PM

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yeah but if the crew is not leveling from doing the missions are you at a disadvantage?

mortal yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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golden rule of week 1

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dont touch the league mechanic

trail tiger Sep 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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lol

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wait till week 2 when only reroll plants are available

mortal yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 7:09 PM

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exactly

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spending time learning the mechanic can be spent on getting into red maps

trail tiger Sep 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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that is true

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do you delve at all before red maps?

mortal yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 7:12 PM

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personally no

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 7:16 PM

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oh my

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mortal yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 7:17 PM

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thats not that bad

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 7:18 PM

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i am very curious about some of these

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ocean narwhal Sep 18, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Deal no crits

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 7:19 PM

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WAIT WHAT

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WHAT IS THIS

mortal yarrow Sep 18, 2020, 7:19 PM

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we will see

native sonnet Sep 18, 2020, 7:23 PM

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i see replica nebulis

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but not replica bottled faith, so maybe the replica cortex only drop 1 item guaranteed

torpid sonnet Sep 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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pog

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wanton rivet Sep 18, 2020, 7:40 PM

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that currency is gonna be rly expensive

bold basalt Sep 18, 2020, 7:43 PM

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may reforge sockets lmao

torpid sonnet Sep 18, 2020, 7:53 PM

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its because some of the heist enchants guarantee linked sockets and stuff like that

bold basalt Sep 18, 2020, 7:54 PM

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oic

storm crown Sep 18, 2020, 8:03 PM

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isnt htat gonna depend on how rare they are ?

bitter ledge Sep 18, 2020, 8:17 PM

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😦

silver kettle Sep 18, 2020, 8:24 PM

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bahaha

cerulean quest Sep 18, 2020, 8:29 PM

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i dropped a contract and the quest tells me to use it but i can't?

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silver kettle Sep 18, 2020, 8:30 PM

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the quest is to use a marker not a contract. markers are the coins

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they're also portal scrolls

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contracts can only be used in the rogue harbour

cerulean quest Sep 18, 2020, 8:31 PM

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ohhh thank you <3 i should red better

covert rivet Sep 18, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I can't see how to access the rogue harbour. I have both markers and two contracts but there is no option in town to get there

cerulean quest Sep 18, 2020, 8:39 PM

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right click on the red coin thinks in your inventory @covert rivet

covert rivet Sep 18, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Thanks!

harsh bone Sep 18, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Has anyone figured out how to actually get into a heist

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I have 2 contracts and a quest contract that I have no clue where to place

silver kettle Sep 18, 2020, 8:51 PM

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talk to adiyah and click "prepare heist" @harsh bone

harsh bone Sep 18, 2020, 8:52 PM

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oh thanks man

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Should I bother to continue playing this league if I already hate the forced "hardcore" mechanic inside a heist?

livid apex Sep 18, 2020, 9:01 PM

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it'll get better once you get geared

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I mean, yeah, but I'm a softcore player for a reason

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I die a lot

tiny fulcrum Sep 18, 2020, 9:02 PM

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i left the rogue harbor before completely my first heist now I have no way to get back into it? Anyone else having the same issue?

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completing*

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:02 PM

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coins = teleport portal to harbor

tiny fulcrum Sep 18, 2020, 9:02 PM

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well, i stashed the coins in the harbor stash...

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:03 PM

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hurry and get more then, or it'll probably be lost

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assuming it's timed instances as usual

tiny fulcrum Sep 18, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Because when talked to adiyah it was bugging out and wouldn't let me start the heist so i left

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good point. i guess ill just get more and see

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weird system

valid isle Sep 18, 2020, 9:04 PM

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anyone getting weird crash issues?

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the new patch seems to be nuking my PC lol to the point its hard shutting off

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other games are running fine though

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I'm level 7

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dying in a level 2 heist

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ugh

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I hope this gets better at higher levels

wraith arrow Sep 18, 2020, 9:11 PM

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do we see somewhere a timer for heist ? After failing 3times the trial one, still didn't notice it :/

livid apex Sep 18, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Getting the primary item always puts the facility on full alert

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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yeah, and gives infinite enemies spawning behind and in front of you

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restacking currency in your inventory after a heist is a fun and engaging mechanic too

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Can someone help me figure out how to get to Rouge Harbor ?

silver kettle Sep 18, 2020, 9:21 PM

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@violet nymph use a rogue's marker from town or hideout

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they're like portal scrolls

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 9:21 PM

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oh, so i need to find one

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all i have are contracts so far

silver kettle Sep 18, 2020, 9:21 PM

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you may want to check your loot filter. smuggler's caches have guaranteed marker drops

violet nymph Sep 18, 2020, 9:22 PM

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damn, thanks ❤️

high cliff Sep 18, 2020, 9:25 PM

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why did i fail my first contract? i got the item and i left without dieing

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:26 PM

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did you sell the item to the fence?

high cliff Sep 18, 2020, 9:28 PM

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now yes

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but the message appear as soon as i left the heist

south gulch Sep 18, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Weird.. I'm not sure

high cliff Sep 18, 2020, 10:01 PM

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alredy know why, cause i was in party

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u need to do the 1st heist solo

woeful nexus Sep 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

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is there any way to get to the heist area without using marks? my game froze and I had to restart it, and I have all the stuff from my heist but no marks to go back and turn it in

cerulean quest Sep 18, 2020, 10:07 PM

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kind of frustrated i can't go to rogue harbor from waypoints i pass by during campaign? Find myself wanting to do that vs other methods of going there?

toxic fractal Sep 18, 2020, 10:24 PM

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anyone having problems trying to run the "trial run"?

cerulean quest Sep 18, 2020, 10:25 PM

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no?

toxic fractal Sep 18, 2020, 10:27 PM

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isn't it supposed to go to the planing table ?

grand kite Sep 18, 2020, 10:35 PM

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can i complain about having player names on in the rogue harbour minimap.

woeful nexus Sep 18, 2020, 10:42 PM

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isn't it supposed to go to the planing table ?
@toxic fractal nope, just go to the lady near the barber/fence

toxic fractal Sep 18, 2020, 10:45 PM

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oh thanks\

valid thunder Sep 18, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Game crashed during Tibbs' contract - is there any panic to that or will it drop again?

valid isle Sep 18, 2020, 10:56 PM

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my word, the difficulty of heists are crazy

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things at level 21 have the HP of level 30s lol

silver kettle Sep 18, 2020, 11:13 PM

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@valid thunder it will drop again

valid thunder Sep 18, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Thanks! 🙂

modest yoke Sep 18, 2020, 11:33 PM

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That Heist, I must say, I like it.

hybrid cosmos Sep 18, 2020, 11:39 PM

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im the only one who thinks in the next few days heist is gonna be nerfed?

toxic fractal Sep 18, 2020, 11:41 PM

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what's there to nerf?

hybrid cosmos Sep 18, 2020, 11:43 PM

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20 chaos in an hour in lvl 20 sounds bonkers

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and if you finish the heist you can do even more heists

verbal crest Sep 18, 2020, 11:46 PM

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thats a lot of cold dmg at lvl 24 lol

rose burrow Sep 18, 2020, 11:52 PM

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why in gods name is the rogue harbour a multiplayer area, ggg really doesn't care about bad pc players

kindred dagger Sep 18, 2020, 11:56 PM

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nice message dot delete so lets resume to the worst, heist = trash have a good day

safe hedge Sep 19, 2020, 12:00 AM

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is there a way to enter the rogue harbor without the coins?

past linden Sep 19, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Anyone know where to get Blueprints specifically? Is there a comprehensive list of sources?

verbal crest Sep 19, 2020, 12:07 AM

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@past linden i just got one out of the regular heist chests in the world

frigid venture Sep 19, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Does /heist work lul

kindred dagger Sep 19, 2020, 12:09 AM

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im just gonna leave it for few days seems to buggy, and if i got any fucking crash AGAIN same for the game prolly even just skip a league again

livid pecan Sep 19, 2020, 12:13 AM

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god damn it. can we make it so you dont lose the fucking heist if you click the red portal immediately on zoning in to a new heist

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 12:16 AM

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@livid pecan you should be able to just go back into the portal

languid river Sep 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Door unlocks - you get oneshot by like 20 ranged mobs.

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Very annoying.

cerulean quest Sep 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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dont stand in doorway

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tldr dont get hit 4head

languid river Sep 19, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Mobs dont activate if you stand back or to side

mystic raptor Sep 19, 2020, 12:28 AM

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anyone crashing game at max alarm?

livid pecan Sep 19, 2020, 12:33 AM

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@silver kettle the portal disappears

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@silver kettle i started "contract; finding opal" inside rogue harbor, the red portal came up, i went in, screen loaded, i accidentally clicked the red portal OUT, now back in rogue harbor....... and no more portal to go back

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 12:34 AM

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okay that's a problem, let me look into that

frigid venture Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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how is this better than no quality at all?

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sharp iron Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 AM

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It allows you to trigger "projectiles return to you" effects.

frigid venture Sep 19, 2020, 12:40 AM

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so it's simply to enable chain/fork/split etc.?

sharp iron Sep 19, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Because if it pierces an unlimited amount of enemies, then it never reaches the last enemy, and never returns to you. That's what I understand of it, at least.

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Yeah

swift rain Sep 19, 2020, 1:01 AM

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How to start the contract?

rotund pine Sep 19, 2020, 1:02 AM

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anyone tried crackling lance? my dps is shit...

wary smelt Sep 19, 2020, 1:03 AM

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wasn't heist mobs suppose to be spectreable? Did GGG change their minds?

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 1:17 AM

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oh that's weird

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the aqueduct boss, hundred foot shadow, was already on the ground when i got to their arena

still mural Sep 19, 2020, 1:29 AM

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disconnected mid-heist, is there any way to get back into it, or am I just out of luck?

south gulch Sep 19, 2020, 1:41 AM

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Am I really the only person who dislikes the forced hardcore aspect of the heists?

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I hate losing stuff I picked up, it's why I play softcore =\

mystic bay Sep 19, 2020, 1:41 AM

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new alternate gems:

are they league limited, some area(map?) drop limited, or can drop anywhere? buyable from vendor, or vendor recipe?
are they somehow marked in tooltip lootfilter other than a line of what they do with alt-tooltip - to easily recognize if that is the old one or new one?

small wigeon Sep 19, 2020, 1:43 AM

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what is this and what do i do with it

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mystic bay Sep 19, 2020, 1:46 AM

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a message to go to sleep? its green, so quest item, slightly unknown, so probably new one, and new quests belongs to heists and rogues there, probably its adrop from heist to give it to one of rogues in their camp

stone turret Sep 19, 2020, 2:10 AM

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how do trial run works?

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cant seems to hire karst

tacit pumice Sep 19, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Is Karst's Revenge broken? I cant click on the interactable at the end of the heist

small wigeon Sep 19, 2020, 2:12 AM

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i just did karsts revenge and failed cause of that too

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so i think it is bugged?

stone turret Sep 19, 2020, 2:12 AM

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how do you even get in? i cant seems to sign the contract

tacit pumice Sep 19, 2020, 2:13 AM

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you have to talk to the npc related to the contract first

stone turret Sep 19, 2020, 2:14 AM

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bugged if i speak to adiyah first?

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instead of karst

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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are you setting off the alarm before you reach the vent?

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are you in a party?

oblique crag Sep 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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hello, so do i finish the heist when i sell the artifact at the fence or is there something more I should do?

tacit pumice Sep 19, 2020, 2:15 AM

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both times i didnt not set off the alarm and was not in a party

wary smelt Sep 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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viper didnt GGG say we would be able raise heist mobs as spectres?

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or am i just going crazy?

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ivivra/so_no_heist_mobs_can_be_raised_as_spectres/g5rkysq/?context=3

r/pathofexile - Comment by u/Bex_GGG on ”So no Heist mobs can be ra...

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wary smelt Sep 19, 2020, 2:16 AM

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thank you

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i was checking like 2 or 3 hours ago trying to find info

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 2:33 AM

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heist might give too much exp lol

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i just got to act 4 and im level 41

tacit pumice Sep 19, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Okay, I figured it out with Karst's revenge, on the 3rd time i acquired the contract it told me to talk to Karst first to get the poison from him.

royal elbow Sep 19, 2020, 2:40 AM

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is anyone having trouble finding those smuggler stashes (the ones that give marks and heists)? I've only found 2, and I've been in a lot more zones than that. Are they supposed to appear once per zone or not?

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is anyone having trouble finding those smuggler stashes (the ones that give marks and heists)? I've only found 2, and I've been in a lot more zones than that. Are they supposed to appear once per zone or not?

livid apex Sep 19, 2020, 2:45 AM

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They're erratic

warm lodge Sep 19, 2020, 3:01 AM

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i got urn of farud and left with it, why did i fail

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 3:03 AM

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@warm lodge there's currently a bug where sometimes it states you've failed when you succeeded. This should be only visual and not affect any gameplay

small wigeon Sep 19, 2020, 3:04 AM

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i opened the heist, got in and misclicked portal and went back to rogue harbor

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is there a way to get back in?

warm lodge Sep 19, 2020, 3:04 AM

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hmm its letting me do it again though

sharp iron Sep 19, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Has anyone found a new, unrevealed replica unique yet?

red wharf Sep 19, 2020, 3:11 AM

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2nd in row Tipps crashes my game when he's crashing door during escape of Opal mission lol, is it known bug? @silver kettle

barren ingot Sep 19, 2020, 3:20 AM

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man monster kills sure add a ton of alert

swift rain Sep 19, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Can Heist be done with teammates?

compact vigil Sep 19, 2020, 3:33 AM

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ok so whats with all the invisible oneshots

small wigeon Sep 19, 2020, 3:39 AM

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clicking the portal back to the rogue harbour closes the heist

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zzZZZ

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already lost two on a misclick

still mural Sep 19, 2020, 4:11 AM

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yes @swift rain assuming you mean other players

wary spindle Sep 19, 2020, 4:51 AM

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does anyone else crash in hiests like often?

woeful nexus Sep 19, 2020, 4:57 AM

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yes

somber bison Sep 19, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Can you sell old contracts together for a higher level one? I have a few ones that are many levels lower than I am

celest tiger Sep 19, 2020, 5:27 AM

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jesus heists at maps hurts like hell

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i don't think i've completed one

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and i have no problem in maps

sonic glen Sep 19, 2020, 5:37 AM

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so I've crashed twice now in heists

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once immediately upon zoning in

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is this common?

primal whale Sep 19, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Havent had a single crash

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but a friend of mine can't even enter highgate

terse sinew Sep 19, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Heists do a lot of dmg

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Even at low levels

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I'm res capped and still fail

primal whale Sep 19, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Then your doing something wrong

terse sinew Sep 19, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Nah they just do a lot of damage

primal whale Sep 19, 2020, 5:42 AM

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I'm hybrid Hexblasting and I havent failed a single heist yet

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even the 6 or so grand heists that I did

terse sinew Sep 19, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Meh, I'm also very low level and don't have much gear with decent life

lilac lynx Sep 19, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Any confirmation on Splitting steel bugged tags?

somber bison Sep 19, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Mine says attack, projectile, aoe, physical

lilac lynx Sep 19, 2020, 5:50 AM

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yea and projectile doesn't work, doesnt get any benefit from Vic proj and slower proj and proj nodes

somber bison Sep 19, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Oh, dunno

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Though that could be why my shattering steel feels so much stronger than my splitting steel

buoyant agate Sep 19, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Do contracts drop from mobs, or am I supposed to just buy them from the barber?

lilac lynx Sep 19, 2020, 6:03 AM

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At the very least the tooltip doesn't go up and the dmg seems pretty damn bad for a 6l too. If it was a 3l tho it'd be fitting.

And Broseidon they can drop from Smuggler stashes and mobs too

still coral Sep 19, 2020, 6:27 AM

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It seems like every heist I do, after getting the artifact or whatever at the end, there's always one door that I just open and instantly die to about 20 mobs instantly shooting lasers or something at me

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Are you supposed to have to use phase run or something to avoid that?

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It's not even like an avoidable door, it's just the main route back with only one way through

idle hull Sep 19, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Apparently both you and I missed the memo that this league requires block.

still coral Sep 19, 2020, 6:34 AM

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I mean my build isn't finished yet but I already have 63/31 block

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doesn't seem to be helping much

idle hull Sep 19, 2020, 6:36 AM

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But yeah idk what GGG was thinking when they decided to put 20 to 100 mobs behind a small ass door that just wait for you.

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Wouldn't be all that bad if they didn't decide to make mobs way tankier when you are escaping.

still coral Sep 19, 2020, 6:41 AM

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yeah, it feels like they're immune to freeze too

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y'know, now that you mentioned it, this is bringing back repressed memories of vaal constructs in incursion league

rigid stream Sep 19, 2020, 6:58 AM

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You can flamedash through the formation

still coral Sep 19, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Doesn't stop them from immediately turning and oneshotting you anyway

rigid stream Sep 19, 2020, 6:59 AM

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It does because flamedash has 3 charges

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And they only have so much range

eager terrace Sep 19, 2020, 7:17 AM

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you guys try a grand heist yet

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I did one around 45 and it seemed kinda impossible

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 7:18 AM

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does taking the big treasure at the end always trigger alarm ?

eager terrace Sep 19, 2020, 7:18 AM

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yeah

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 7:18 AM

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😦

balmy imp Sep 19, 2020, 7:36 AM

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I guess PSA: Don't do heists right now, save them until GGG fixes their shit

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Lost 1 ex, 3 divines and random stuff in the last hour because this shit DCs right before you leave a heist

clever crest Sep 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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O.o ok good to know I was just about to do a few grand heists

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rip 😦

balmy imp Sep 19, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Yeah, don't. 😛 GGG release yet another buggy league, so wait for a hotfix ^^

clever crest Sep 19, 2020, 7:39 AM

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Used to it by now, apparently there's a ton of skill bugs happening too

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 7:42 AM

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eh i do 3 small heists below lv 10 and i already got 4 uniques xD

torpid quail Sep 19, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I seem to have got a bug where "The Kiss Goodnight" quest item is stuck in my inventory after failing a quest?

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 7:46 AM

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honestly the league hasn't been buggy at all for me yet

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though tibbs can wack out a bit if you're standing near him when he's doing stuff

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i want tibbs' fire shield skill

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 7:47 AM

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btw, is harvest gone forever in standart ?

still coral Sep 19, 2020, 7:53 AM

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ugh I am so sick of these oneshot squads that just wait right before the exit

torpid quail Sep 19, 2020, 7:54 AM

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oh nice, disconnected in a heist after getting a 5L

strong jasper Sep 19, 2020, 7:54 AM

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how do I unlock the thaum and other thieves?

balmy imp Sep 19, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Told you man, save your Heists, and run them after we get some info from GGG

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It's fucked for a lot of people, you get DCd right before the end of every heist

peak terrace Sep 19, 2020, 7:57 AM

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its the new content dude

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ppl wanna run it

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and it is also fun new contenthonestly

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ive done the trial and one extra lvl5 one and it is cool

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 7:58 AM

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i haven't dced once this league lol

still coral Sep 19, 2020, 8:00 AM

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I haven't DC'd once, but my client has crashed like 5 times

balmy imp Sep 19, 2020, 8:00 AM

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everything was fine untill level 70+ heists 😛 then I DCd 6 times in a row

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now I Wont do it

atomic pendant Sep 19, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Nice my demoliton guy was stuck for 5 minutes in a chest

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this guy is THICC

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should not have collision or something

rigid stream Sep 19, 2020, 8:13 AM

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You can move back and he should Reposition

modest yoke Sep 19, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Do I have to finish heist to get items, can i just leave in portal with items that I have from casual chests and not opening main one ?

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 8:28 AM

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finish them

regal swan Sep 19, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Fml, got stuck in vault door. Means I lost the heist?

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Can't move. Dash skill does nothing.

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Well, this is lame.

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

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portal out

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 8:51 AM

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How are you guys approaching the whole Stealth thing? With the guards at chockepoints and doors, I feel like I'm just fighting my way through contracts

eager terrace Sep 19, 2020, 8:52 AM

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for the most part you can really only stealth on the mech heists

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 8:52 AM

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yeah not much stealth unless you use skills for a short time

eager terrace Sep 19, 2020, 8:52 AM

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otherwise you are just trying to minimize fighting

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if you need to anyway

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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What do you do vs sentry guns? I can't damage them and they interrupt my rogues while dealing a lot of damage.

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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cant u disable them ?

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Can you? If so, how do you disable them?

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Do you need a special rogue skill for it?

haughty oracle Sep 19, 2020, 9:00 AM

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i tought if you have an engineer with you, there might be a console to disable them

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:04 AM

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finally found my first big complaint with this league

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if you accidently lag or anything and click out of the portal into the heist

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you lose the heist

dawn badger Sep 19, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Or if you do the heist you have a 50% chance of losing the heist and get to look at your desktop.

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 9:05 AM

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that's a bug for what it's worth @valid isle . you're meant to be able to go back in until you set off lockdown. getting fixed.

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:05 AM

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good to know

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i just lost a green heist lol

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 9:06 AM

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it will drop again 🙂

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:06 AM

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my only other minor complaint is just how tanky the mobs are lol

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im at about 5k dps doing the level 45~ish ones and jesus lol

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the mobs are all bullet sponges

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:06 AM

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I stood next to a vault door when it opened and my character couldn't move at all afterwards. Is that an intended feature?

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Or did I get bugged?

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movement skills didn't work either

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

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granted, i feel like 5k tooltip dps is low this season lol. i smash most the white trash but bosses seem to take longer than i remember

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 9:10 AM

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@zealous monolith oh god we spent weeks on and off working on this lol. it's meant to push you out of the way. will see what's up

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Ah, good to know! Cheers man, I'm rooting for you guys!

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In the meantime, I shall practice social distancing with vault doors lol.

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 9:11 AM

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hahaha

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we did have a completely safe setup at one point, but it knocked you kind of silly amounts even if you weren't really in danger of getting stuck. replaced it with something smarter, but apparently not as reliable as we thought...

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:13 AM

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I didn't think about taking a screenshot, though from what I remember, it looked like my character was inside the vault door after it opened.

silver kettle Sep 19, 2020, 9:15 AM

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yeah no worries. if it does ever happen again a /bug would be handy, cause knowing your exact position will help and we get that info from /bug

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but otherwise I imagine some trial and error will repro it eventually

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

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i am actually curious just how much damage i need for these as im moving into the level 50s

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

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I'll keep it in mind!

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

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4l with 250~ pdps weapon isnt enough lol

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:16 AM

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What's your skill/ascendancy?

brazen pulsar Sep 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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I'm pretty shocked GGG released a league mechanic where if you crash you can lose 100% of your progress...

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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champion and running spitting steel

brazen pulsar Sep 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Between me and my friend we've lost over an exalt from crashes in heist while leveling

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Is there maybe a graphics setting that could be causing it?

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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in normal areas that are not apart of this league, i basically disintegrate everything

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bosses are not too bad, just tanky

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but in heist, everything takes 10~ hits

dawn badger Sep 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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I crashed to desktop with no error codes in 3 back to back heists and called it a night. Right at the end of course so you get to see all the loot you lost.

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:18 AM

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At lvl 70 in day 1 early mapping gear (aka random rares and a 1c unique) on a TR/CA Pathfinder, my experience with the enemies in Heist is that they hit hard and some of them are resilient, especially after you grabbed the objectives and need to move back.

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:18 AM

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and the rares take a good 50+ hits lol

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:18 AM

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hmm I assume you're set up to impale and all that jazz?

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:18 AM

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yeah

brazen pulsar Sep 19, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Hexblast so far has been 1-2 shotting most mobs in Heist, my problem isn't the mobs, its the 10000% guranteed crash on the way out

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:18 AM

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150% impale effect, 7 hit impale, has 55% overwhelm for armor

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hexblast is the other build i want to try, but i heard already its strong

brazen pulsar Sep 19, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Its strong but the clear is terrible

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:19 AM

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They should be nowhere near that tanky. According to reddit, the projectile tag on the skill is bugged apparently, so if you scale projectile modifiers like iron grip it doesn't do jack atm

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:19 AM

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oh

brazen pulsar Sep 19, 2020, 9:19 AM

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It feels like ED Contagion but without the damage spread effect

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:19 AM

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that might mean half my support gems arent actually doing anything

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lol

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:19 AM

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also remember, it is not a "melee" skill mechanically

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melee only nodes don't do anything

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:20 AM

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and yeah, im taking mostly the 2h weapon nodes or sword nodes

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though i realized the crit nodes i took are melee crit <~< so ill just untake those lol

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though i think they might still apply?

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i have a 15% crit rate atm

barren ingot Sep 19, 2020, 9:21 AM

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heist is really flavorful, idea's fun, mobs are overtuned so you know it's a day 1 league.

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:21 AM

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which with a weapon of 5% means the crit chance is boosting it i guess?

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:21 AM

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yeah, unless you took Resolute Technique, which Ziz/Steel did in their guide for it

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:21 AM

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so maybe melee is applying even though it shouldnt? LOL

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I knew this league would be rough when I fought Oak lol

barren ingot Sep 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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but also i have 9 chaos orbs at the start of act 5 which is absurd amounts of early loot.

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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did you do heist at every opportunity?

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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i am, its a fun thing

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but yeah, just checked

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I have 15-18c and I'm in t4 maps

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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"melee crit" nodes are applying to spitting steel

barren ingot Sep 19, 2020, 9:22 AM

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yeah if a hesit map drops i'm doin it, and just blitzing past most mobs otherwise.

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i'm genrally kinda slow leveler tho.

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:23 AM

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and vis projectiles reduces my damage

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so i think the spitting steel is coded for melee rather than projectile, accidently

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when its fixed, i might run a hunter for it instead

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i think it will do better since i dont need to travel far left

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:26 AM

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you mean ranger?

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you could swap to lancing steel in the meantime. Steelmage is mapping with it onstream right now and it looks really solid.

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Yes lol

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I used lancing and didn't super love it

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But its not bad

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I enjoy doing my own path though

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I'm also finding the champion impale boost to be just okay for this. Slayer would probably be better

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But I think ranger will do best

sour mountain Sep 19, 2020, 9:32 AM

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i gotta work out how to get enough dex for my witch to use the MS bow 😦

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:32 AM

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This might be better suited for #1┃after-acts-help

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As we've kinda moved away from league mechanics

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:33 AM

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I wonder how soon they will do a patch

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Some of these bugs are large

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:33 AM

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They did a lot of small patches to address things

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e.g. oak nerf

sour mountain Sep 19, 2020, 9:33 AM

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i'm getting FPS hitches

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Yeah I saw oak

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:33 AM

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also tabula exploit nerf

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:33 AM

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I shot him like 250 times lol

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I had no damage nodes when fighting him as I pathed through ranger life nodes.

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I had Einhar with me though

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Well, here is hopping for a spitting patch lol

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:36 AM

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if your tree is sword/axe impale champ, you can substitute a melee skill that uses either of those for now while leveling your steel skill and support gems in a weapon swap.

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And then go back to it after it's been fixed

valid isle Sep 19, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Yeah lol

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I never mind leveling alts

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But it is annoying

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:37 AM

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I force myself to not start alting until my league starter is in red maps.

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this allows me to explore the league mechanic in greater detail

maiden coral Sep 19, 2020, 9:39 AM

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Has anything been said about Heists and disconnects?

balmy imp Sep 19, 2020, 9:39 AM

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^ Noipp

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Asking on discord / reddit atm

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BUt I am 7/7 for Heists and disconnects so far, really sad

maiden coral Sep 19, 2020, 9:39 AM

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Failed two contracts already thanks to my location updating into a pack of mobs 🙂

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And the rogues sometimes refuse to do their job lol

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Super fun though, when it does work

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:40 AM

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it has happened to me too

balmy imp Sep 19, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Indeed. Sadly it's been down for me for the last 4 hours

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 9:40 AM

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yeah when they fix it i think its gonna rock

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:40 AM

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in addition to really weird interactions in the rogue city

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I also got vault door'd which viper confirmed to be a bug.

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 9:41 AM

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that happened to me too

zealous monolith Sep 19, 2020, 9:43 AM

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I often can't open my stash in the rogue city either.

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guild and heist stash work fine

scenic glade Sep 19, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Got stuck in a door and can't move 🤡

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upper apex Sep 19, 2020, 10:07 AM

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I really liked it when I was able to get 2 tabula's in my first 2 hours of playing and selling one for some sweet chaos moola

scenic glade Sep 19, 2020, 10:09 AM

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And of course the whole Heist disappears when you tp out or re-log 🙄

rigid stream Sep 19, 2020, 10:10 AM

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After you Trigger the Alarm, yes

wary kernel Sep 19, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Is this any good?

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scenic glade Sep 19, 2020, 10:12 AM

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No, was before I triggered the alarm.

rigid stream Sep 19, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Thats good, yes

livid escarp Sep 19, 2020, 10:18 AM

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anyone else getting dc'd every 2nd heist?

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 10:20 AM

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I get dc'd or a freeze when i grab the bounty and want to eit the heist... always

normal osprey Sep 19, 2020, 10:22 AM

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same

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i either get dc*d or frozen

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 10:23 AM

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I tried to revert my nvidia driver, still the same. On vulcan

normal osprey Sep 19, 2020, 10:23 AM

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im on dx11

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 10:24 AM

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This is bad 😦

devout harbor Sep 19, 2020, 10:25 AM

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how are people liking heist? im on the fence whether I want to commit to the leveling grind or sit out this one

normal osprey Sep 19, 2020, 10:25 AM

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cant really tell u, keep dcing

balmy imp Sep 19, 2020, 10:26 AM

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^

devout harbor Sep 19, 2020, 10:26 AM

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oh im sorry to hear that

serene wing Sep 19, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Why did they think having player collision at the rogue harbor on the stash was good

maiden coral Sep 19, 2020, 10:35 AM

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Oh gosh
One of the 40 challenges involves vaaling an alt qual gem into 21
How hard is that?
I have to xp farm alt quality gems to 20 then pray?

scenic glade Sep 19, 2020, 10:39 AM

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Okay how annoying is it though that if you misclick on the damn Portal the whole Heist is just... gone

normal osprey Sep 19, 2020, 10:40 AM

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^

willow vigil Sep 19, 2020, 10:42 AM

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umm im kinda new to the game, but when i was doing the heist and finished and had to escape, do mobs just not stop spawning?

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 10:42 AM

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you have to run back to the entrance

willow vigil Sep 19, 2020, 10:42 AM

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k ty

velvet palm Sep 19, 2020, 10:46 AM

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they indeed do not stop

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spawning, that is

nova rain Sep 19, 2020, 10:49 AM

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am I being stupid, or why cannot I equip an heist member equipment? Found one that increases melee dmg by 30% and want to put it on Huck but it wont let me 😦 EDIT: I tw3as me being stupid.

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actually had an req of a job to be level 6

odd sail Sep 19, 2020, 10:53 AM

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how do I stop my alert level from going up

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nvm just read

stone turret Sep 19, 2020, 11:12 AM

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any encounter sudden screen freeze while escaping heist?

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and you have to just close off POE to restart

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so annoying

alpine whale Sep 19, 2020, 11:16 AM

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How do I equip items for heist members?

bronze cave Sep 19, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Is there a list of mods that the items i can equip my members with roll?

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I can only find mod lists for the trinket i myself can equip

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Can u do heists with friends or only solo?

timid geyser Sep 19, 2020, 11:35 AM

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You can do them in parties

trail vessel Sep 19, 2020, 11:41 AM

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my strategy so far has been to clear a path to the end chest, opening all necessary doors

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then going back and grabbing chests to start the lockdown timer

regal gyro Sep 19, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Is anyone here playing a summoner build? How is it working with the heist mechanic?

trail vessel Sep 19, 2020, 11:43 AM

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I feel like summoner might run into some issues

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in some of the longer heists you want to avoid killing enemies as much as possible

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where other builds can just run past the mobs, since only killing them raises the alarm, summoner mobs will automatically aggro

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should be just fine for most scenarios though

regal gyro Sep 19, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Yeah, that's exactly what I fear will happen

odd sail Sep 19, 2020, 11:45 AM

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holy shit how do I complete a heist without maxing alert level

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I legit had like 4 big chests left and maxed out alert

hybrid cosmos Sep 19, 2020, 11:46 AM

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lockpicking has a 25% less alarm setting

odd sail Sep 19, 2020, 11:55 AM

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yea idk

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am I supposed to just sneak around?

hybrid cosmos Sep 19, 2020, 11:56 AM

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yup

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once alarm is triggered you can go full rambo

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but before avoid enemys

odd sail Sep 19, 2020, 11:57 AM

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i see tyvm

trail vessel Sep 19, 2020, 12:01 PM

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I don't think you should expect to get every reward chest

odd sail Sep 19, 2020, 12:04 PM

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im usually pretty good at stealth games

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no clue how the fuck im so bad at this

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as soon as they enter ur range of vision

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you enter theirs

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and i don't have sound enabled, idk if they even make sounds

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stealthing is impossible and rambo-ing it leaves me with no loot

marsh wyvern Sep 19, 2020, 12:10 PM

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same here, as soon as i can see them they can see me. i just started running through em. seems to work

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just rush to the end and if your alert level is still fairly low, go back and grab some loot

honest ivy Sep 19, 2020, 12:11 PM

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just fyi they gutted stealth mechanic cause it would've actually been useful here

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your best bet for early runs are either phase run or just run and tank pretty much

odd sail Sep 19, 2020, 12:12 PM

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still doesn't mean I get any of the loot

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takes like 40% alarm level for 1 chest

honest ivy Sep 19, 2020, 12:13 PM

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phase run gives 100% stealth which lowers enemy vision range by half

odd sail Sep 19, 2020, 12:13 PM

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i see

honest ivy Sep 19, 2020, 12:13 PM

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thats what they changed stealth to

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stelath at 100% used to be pure invis

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but oh no a league where thats actually useful better gut it

tender vigil Sep 19, 2020, 12:14 PM

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does anyone have a list of types of rewards for each type of Contract? Like if we want to farm uniqs, or maps, or base types, which is which?

rigid stream Sep 19, 2020, 12:30 PM

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If you have... I dunno who it was, Nene? With you, you will see Icons on the Map? Which indicate Aggro spots or so?

sage tendon Sep 19, 2020, 12:30 PM

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i got a 6-link chest from heist, completed it, but crashed as soon as i left the area... then all items were gone :(:(:( sadFace

austere crypt Sep 19, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Any one else getting tons of client crashed during heists? tried both vulkan/directx no difference

marsh wyvern Sep 19, 2020, 12:39 PM

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negative

devout iron Sep 19, 2020, 12:51 PM

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True, game consistently crashes every few heists for me

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And briefly drops frames every time a new sound loads during heist

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I've decided not to do heists until they patch a few things up anyway

violet nymph Sep 19, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Did GGG add trinkets?

maiden coral Sep 19, 2020, 1:04 PM

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When do you get them? Ive yet to find one

surreal sail Sep 19, 2020, 1:05 PM

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how do you reveal wings/secret rooms in blueprints?

split cliff Sep 19, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Talk to Whakano I belive and it costs intel you get from heist completion

red wharf Sep 19, 2020, 1:22 PM

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is it now known what are most likely causes for heists to crash game?

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wondering if I should workaround them or just stop doing them until patch

rigid stream Sep 19, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I did not See how much Intell i have marauderthinking

feral canopy Sep 19, 2020, 1:45 PM

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does anyone know if the heist colleagues get more exp if I let them do more work during a heist?

tulip pagoda Sep 19, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Jesus... so many crashes during heists... Anyone knows what might be the cause of it?