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slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:54 AM

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for kinkshaming

violet nymph Sep 3, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Lol

modest yoke Sep 3, 2020, 9:54 AM

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like i do not even check them anymore xD

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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i bought two unique tabs

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so i could store 2 of 1h ;o

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i like to collect

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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LUL

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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i dont care if its junk

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ill keep teh better rolled ones

violet nymph Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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I want to use punishment to make all my enemies fucking explode

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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the black hole skill

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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^this guy hoards

modest yoke Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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but with this modding uniques, i maybe could be really needed ?

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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ill use it on every build

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just ot clean up corpses

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Can't wait for those corpse spawning boots + Bameth

violet nymph Sep 3, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Ew

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:56 AM

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maybe this is the lague that ggg has removed beyond

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they said they would

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no more red bandits

void wing Sep 3, 2020, 9:57 AM

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I am glad I own a unique stash tab.

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I wish I owned a quad instead.

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templarLul

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:58 AM

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back to the abyss jewels

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spirit burst with like 10 or so abyss jewels

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would be insane

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does it scale with each charge?

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oh i see

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it uses a charge on each skill use

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 9:59 AM

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they nerfed its dmg to a point where it won't carry a build

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:59 AM

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ok

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so no point then

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do we know if its +450 more gems or +900 with 2 variations for each existing gem

autumn snow Sep 3, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Each gem has up to 3 variations

sharp iron Sep 3, 2020, 10:27 AM

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The flavor text on the Bitterdream replica confirms that there won't be every test number between 1 and ~200 represented, which makes me a little sad.

south aspen Sep 3, 2020, 12:12 PM

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When's release?

light adder Sep 3, 2020, 12:13 PM

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check countdown on homepage

livid lake Sep 3, 2020, 12:22 PM

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15 days

dusky kernel Sep 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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When you run a Heist in a party, multiple Artifacts will be available to steal, assigned to each party member. You'll also each gain intel and Rogue experience if you succeed at the Heist. Another benefit is that if you die and drop your contraband, your party member can collect it for you and then share it if they're nice.

You could even pool your intel resources by revealing part of the Blueprint and passing it to your party member to reveal even more of it.

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YO ITS ACTUALLY PARTY FRIENDLY

tender tusk Sep 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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yeah it's pretty sick

dusky kernel Sep 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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THIS LEAGUE MIGHT ACTUALLY WORK FOR A SSF GROUP

devout osprey Sep 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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ssf group chrisThinking

tender tusk Sep 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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it defs feels like a party league

devout osprey Sep 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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so group group found

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party group found

dusky kernel Sep 3, 2020, 1:25 PM

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yea make a private league for your friends, or just not trade in standard

fallen tulip Sep 3, 2020, 1:28 PM

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lf> big private league

dusky kernel Sep 3, 2020, 1:29 PM

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i hope theres more affixes or fun things for private leagues

timid geyser Sep 3, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Yeah, small private leagues are loads of fun can confirm.

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 2:51 PM

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@autumn snow oh geez. i hope that means 4 versions of RF wil exist one for each resist type hahaha

autumn snow Sep 3, 2020, 2:51 PM

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up to

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UP TO! 😄

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Lightning RF 👀

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Chaos rf

devout osprey Sep 3, 2020, 3:33 PM

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so deaths aura?

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:17 PM

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@barren crescent I would really like a Cold RF

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Wouldn't it be dope as it could give you a built in defensive 🙂

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:18 PM

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dot doesn't freeze or chill on its own

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I would expect cold RF to chill on its own

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is that a hard rule that no dots can freeze/chill on their own?

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Causing an ailment requires a hit without additional lines

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Freeze would be OP so I can understand that, but chill seems like it would make sense, to me at least

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:20 PM

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but since RF is burning dmg, it could very well see a chill added to it

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:20 PM

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right, so its a hard rule for ailments to occur it has to be at the expense of a cast/hit, got it

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:21 PM

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For example, Blight can't poison enemies no matter how much dmg you got

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as Blight doesn't hit, but deals chaos dot

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cast has nothing to do with hit on its own

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:21 PM

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well, in theory you could do coc with rf if you can get rf to crit and cause a chill/freeze ability

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:22 PM

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You have 2 flaws

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:22 PM

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but I would "wish" a cold RF version to be a thing, and I'd be ok with lesser dmg but a built in chill

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:22 PM

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CoC requires an attack to crit, RF is a spell

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and RF doesn't hit (still)

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:22 PM

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that's a good point, I always wanted to play RF but never bothered with it due to how you have to build for it

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hence, I don't know RF real well 😦

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Every ignite is burning dmg, not every burning dmg is ignite

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:27 PM

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has there been any word of skill reworks or new skills for 3.12? Speaking outside of alternate quality gems of course

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There are steel skill reworks

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:27 PM

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There was a few on the announcement page

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:27 PM

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anything else?

barren crescent Sep 3, 2020, 4:27 PM

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blackhole thingy and meteors

native sonnet Sep 3, 2020, 4:28 PM

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https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/wiki/heistinfo

heistinfo - pathofexile

r/pathofexile: A subreddit dedicated to Path of Exile, an ARPG made by Grinding Gear Games. Spiritual successor to Diablo 2

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:29 PM

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thank you

lavish bane Sep 3, 2020, 4:47 PM

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So I'm super excited about this league gimmick

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POE DB still doesn't have much on the new gems, yet

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Curses look cool, new steel skill/fire skill stuff I'm on fence on

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Super excited for new bases, any more details about new bases outside of whats on the annoucement page?

hollow osprey Sep 3, 2020, 4:57 PM

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No, we are waiting for more stuffs to be revealed

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Man I want that Replica Abyssus for my Frost Blades

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Replacing the phys damage one with cold damage sounds better

fossil shore Sep 3, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Sounds very annoying to mitigate

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 7:41 PM

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So we can do heists without finishing the acts first

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Does that mean i can do the highest tier heist without ever getting the res penalty from act 5 and 10

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 7:44 PM

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It's most likely ilvl dependent

native sonnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:44 PM

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if u buy them yes

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Like pretty much everything else

native sonnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:44 PM

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otherwise depends if the contract/blueprint u get from heist are capped at their lvl or if they can drop higher

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 7:45 PM

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So a super minmaxed secondary character would just never play past act 5

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 7:45 PM

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That's never been the case in all the previous leagues

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Don't see how this one is any different

native sonnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:45 PM

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bex just replied to u on reddit

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 7:46 PM

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yeah i saw

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"It’s a good question. It sounds like something you can do but I would be keen to double check before confirming something so important."

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damn i hope its not gonna be possible

royal gale Sep 3, 2020, 7:52 PM

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it might have been possible before you asked

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pepelaugh

native sonnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:53 PM

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should be possible, like delve

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 7:53 PM

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You'd probably be able to enter

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Being able to clear it is a completely different thing

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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not really, you can just buy contracts on the level you can currently do

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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That's different

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You were talking about the highest tier

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 7:55 PM

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yes, because if you do that at some point you are super strong and can do the highest tier

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but didnt receive the res penalty, making gearing your character way easier

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So the highest tier of league content is easier to do with a character that never played the base game than with one that did

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 7:56 PM

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The res penalty is nothing

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If you got a twink that can clear endgame content then you can do it on a regular character as well

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 7:58 PM

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It still means if you want to really minmax your character you shouldnt play the actual base game

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free 60% allres including chaos is not insignifcant on many builds

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 7:59 PM

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This kind of minmaxing has no practical use besides showing off

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If that's all you're after then good luck

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I dont understand your point, if you're a player that struggles with endgame content, it incentivices you to stay at <act5. 60 allres is like 6-8 free additional affixes on your gear.

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You are also not required to have a main that is strong enough to clear all content to do this

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 8:03 PM

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You're overthinking it

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If you struggle with endgame content then you farm better gear

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That's all there is to it

bronze cave Sep 3, 2020, 8:05 PM

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i guess the actual argument is that you lose out on skillpoints and uberlab, which i forgot about

wet harbor Sep 3, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I imagine it's going to be pretty important to do big heists with friends just to leave with all the items

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 8:46 PM

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thats a good point

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heist rotas here we go?

spice cipher Sep 3, 2020, 8:51 PM

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kinda scary how they keep mentioning party play and dying

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how scaled are these i wonder lol

native sonnet Sep 3, 2020, 8:52 PM

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pk party for maximum loot, got it

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Ice wall your party and take their loot vanity

slender temple Sep 3, 2020, 9:02 PM

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phasing bro says what?

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thanks fro stopping the enemies highi five

sharp iron Sep 3, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Getting your leech from skill gem quality instead of passive points should allow a Duelist to save at least 3 passive points by not having to spend them on leech from tree.

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So if you're fine with losing a little bit of AoE since you want to focus on boss slaying instead, I'd say that alternative gem quality is worth it.

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Holy shit that looks sweet

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Returning projectiles are useless tho

sharp iron Sep 3, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Since it doesn't take long before the effect of the raw "x% of damage leeched as life" caps out in how fast it can make you recover. And a Duelist can either get it from Hemotophagy or Vitality Void, both 3 points to reach the notable in the cluster. It could also potentially save a 4th of 5th point by making it so you also don't need to path out to those clusters.

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Why duelist tho

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Is this some kind of spell gladiator?

primal whale Sep 3, 2020, 9:30 PM

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I am equally confused

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Physical spell gladiator does make sense

primal whale Sep 3, 2020, 9:31 PM

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In what way?

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like 90% of the ascendency is based on attacks

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 9:32 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Nope

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Most of it is generic physical damage

torpid sonnet Sep 3, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Also the duelist node is attack leech so it wont work with bv

primal whale Sep 3, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I mean cool you get block chance and some increased % phys

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In an area with literally no spell synergy

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 9:34 PM

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You cut through the middle up to the witch/shadow area

primal whale Sep 3, 2020, 9:34 PM

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You get a mediocre ascendency for spells + have to travel a billion points

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Or go near the edge through ranger and get some spell related cluster jewels

primal whale Sep 3, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Nah

echo shale Sep 3, 2020, 9:35 PM

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going gladiator just gives you practically nothing

primal whale Sep 3, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Just do Trickster and pick Glancing blows

wanton rivet Sep 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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that krangled faster projectiles looks super cool

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Looks cool but from personal experience the returning projectiles are useless

wanton rivet Sep 3, 2020, 9:45 PM

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fair

violet nymph Sep 3, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i'd use it for a fireball sire of shards build for that much more clearspeed

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 10:35 PM

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The return projectiles don't damage same enemies again

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They're gonna do absolutely nothing unless a spider or some shit flickers onto you from off screen

violet nymph Sep 3, 2020, 10:37 PM

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i thought the point of return was that they could damage the same targets but it's kinda finicky to make it work

wild arch Sep 3, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Whatever the point was, currently they really aren't worth it

dusty umbra Sep 3, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Mean bv is either chief or ass nowadays

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Chief has ascendancy leech and ass can get cluster or timeless jewel leech both of which arent hard to come by

hollow osprey Sep 4, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Play Elementalist

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You can get all the ele leeches in the world

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 12:50 AM

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replica witchfire brew but it gives flammability for ignite builds instead of despair

bitter ledge Sep 4, 2020, 1:00 AM

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What will happen if you use contraband-currency on non-contraband items?

kindred dragon Sep 4, 2020, 1:09 AM

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IMO, if you go with chieftain for BV, it does open up 2 ascendency points.

hollow osprey Sep 4, 2020, 1:36 AM

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I feel like I should go BV Ascendant

solar flare Sep 4, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Will replica uniques have their own slot in the unique stash?

silver kettle Sep 4, 2020, 2:18 AM

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yes

solar flare Sep 4, 2020, 2:18 AM

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That was quick

silver kettle Sep 4, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I was here 🤷

slender temple Sep 4, 2020, 2:34 AM

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its in the Q&A part 2

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i wanna know if there are viable chaos spectres ! 😄

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so when i play the best build in the game i can enjoy chaos damage

tawny ravine Sep 4, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Will 5 for 1 unique drop replicas?

heavy jacinth Sep 4, 2020, 8:35 AM

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imagine energy shield replica version of HH, Headhunter the Crystal belt: Implict: max ES, Explicts: Strenght/Int/Max ES, 20-30% inc damage against rares and steal bonuses from old HH 😄

fallow veldt Sep 4, 2020, 9:58 AM

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@tawny ravine No

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You can only "drop" Repliqua unique in the Curio Display Rooms

fair prairie Sep 4, 2020, 10:12 AM

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honestly would of been cool if you could choose to either sell the stolen artifact or put it up for display in your hideout.

cunning blade Sep 4, 2020, 10:37 AM

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whatYouDidThere

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u know what would be cool

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if we could get hideout decos that let us "put" items in it that stay throughout leagues and u can view it

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like u can't take it out but sorta keep it as a trophy

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like a "i had this insane item before" kinda thing

fair prairie Sep 4, 2020, 11:00 AM

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yeah

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that would be nice unique item display cases

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i guess it wouldnt even need to be unique if you can view its stats

dusky kernel Sep 4, 2020, 11:35 AM

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The reward rooms are not tied to completion or failure of the heist right

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its only the curio/artifafct

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 AM

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What do you mean @dusky kernel

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:46 AM

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You don't get any loot if you die, if you meant that by failure

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but you don't get marks/xp for mercs if you odn't get the artifact

dusky kernel Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 AM

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So theres treasure rooms for loot types like replicas or alternate gems

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thats different from the curio that drops the artifact you need to escape with

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to be considered done

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those treasure chests do not affect the mission except maybe raise the alarm id imagine

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If you can't escape the Heist, you'll lose everything you stole while infiltrating the facility.

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does that include the rewards from the treasure rooms

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it cant right, thatd be f'd

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:48 AM

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alarm raise should go up the more loot rooms you joink

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I'd imagine yes

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but the alert doesn't go off from those treasure rooms instantly

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just the artifact = 100% alert from 0

dusky kernel Sep 4, 2020, 11:49 AM

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thatd be really bad though, like you have treasure rooms you open before the artifact. and lets say you have the choice now to go well shit we cant complete the heist might as well get out with what we have

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:50 AM

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yep

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but proccing the alert doesn't fail the heist

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just additional looting is locked

jovial sail Sep 4, 2020, 11:50 AM

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They should remove alert gain from killing enemies for more breathing room? That way you can loot certain treasure rooms of your choice before you head to the artifact to escape with it afterwards

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:50 AM

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you can still gtfo

dusky kernel Sep 4, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Your contraband (and Artifact) will be dropped on the ground as you log out.

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welp yea that sounds like you drop everything

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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log out/crash/death

dusky kernel Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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there is like no alarm raised for killing

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its been stated many times killing everything barely matters for the alarm

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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I'd imagine it be like 0.5% out of 100% per kill

velvet palm Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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as far as I understand, you'll drop EVERYTHING you've picked up during a heist if you die during lockdown

dusky kernel Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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yea thats what it sounds like

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Its like HC loot until you successfully get out

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whether or not you got artifact or not

velvet palm Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 AM

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since every little shit dropped on the ground had the contraband icon next to their names

barren crescent Sep 4, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Depending how dangerous the guards are its interesting

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if the guards are one shot off screening us as per usual for new content, it will feel bad

dusky kernel Sep 4, 2020, 11:53 AM

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pathfinder dodge avoid ailments stacker build it is

velvet palm Sep 4, 2020, 12:06 PM

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some new form of immunity build le's go

ember lodge Sep 4, 2020, 1:43 PM

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If you've seen from some of the clips Ziggy has shown off the guards play really dirty. They set up formations by doors on your escape to gank you

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I could definitely see that blasting people away

slender temple Sep 4, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Or just use minions

rotund pine Sep 4, 2020, 1:57 PM

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hi guys, if i link an attack with curse on hit with more than one curse, how the curses gonna be applied/replaced? how the maximum curse can be applied gonna affect this?

compact junco Sep 4, 2020, 2:01 PM

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only woke coh increases the curse limit, and it would behave as you would expect, e.g they will be applied all at once but in linked order

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so if your curse limit is 1 and you have 2 curses linked to regular coh the second curse will aply

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the order is from left to right

rotund pine Sep 4, 2020, 2:06 PM

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so u mean if my limit is 1, the 2 curses will alternately be applied?

torpid sonnet Sep 4, 2020, 2:07 PM

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no, only one will be applied

rotund pine Sep 4, 2020, 2:07 PM

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so the 2nd curse will be like no use at all?

torpid sonnet Sep 4, 2020, 2:07 PM

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yes

rotund pine Sep 4, 2020, 2:07 PM

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dang

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there goes my hope with coh + the new curse explody gem

torpid sonnet Sep 4, 2020, 2:08 PM

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the new curse stuff only works with selfcast curses anyway

rotund pine Sep 4, 2020, 2:09 PM

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so no bane either?

torpid sonnet Sep 4, 2020, 2:09 PM

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GGG is still undecided on bane

rotund pine Sep 4, 2020, 2:09 PM

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got it lol

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2 6-link alternating bane with 2 sets of different curse gonna be pretty sick lol

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so the unique armor curse applying totem wont work either?

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i think it's doriyani or something

torpid sonnet Sep 4, 2020, 2:14 PM

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probably not

random glacier Sep 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Have they posted what Zana mods are this league yet or will that likely be with the patch notes

wild arch Sep 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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That's usually a couple days before the patch notes

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Anyone know what the base Rain of Arrows quality was??

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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idk if this discussion has been had already but I'm really not looking forward to desyncing during a heist and losing all my loot
i play softcore for a reason, and I don't like that the option to play softcore is being taken away

wanton rivet Sep 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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well i feel like the loot will be better since there's a chance to totally bomb all that time spent doing the heist

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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the loot being better doesn't change how awful it will feel to lose it all due to internet issues

radiant niche Sep 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Do you guys DC like every 10 min or what ? i see this argument being throw at everything

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I desync multiple times per play session yes. Normally it's frustrating but not an issue because I can just pick back up where i left off

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the comparison i'm mentally making is to blighted maps where if you die you're probably going to lose the map
I ran exactly one blighted map this league, died, and then sold all the rest of my blighted maps for the rest of the league because it's too unfun of an experience to lose all the loot due to something you can't control

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whether the loot is good or not doesn't make it less unfun

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Sounds like the problem here is caused by your connection. And honestly, in that case, just sell the stuff and move on with it if it's that big of a deal. GGG isnt going to always make stuff that's fine for people with poor connections

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Alva has the same type of problems

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Synthesis also had these problems

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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i would agree with you if I hadn't tested on two different networks, both of which I verified had no issues with any other service
whatever the problem is that causes my client to stop getting updates from the server while my input still goes through is something I can't identify or fix

i'm ok with losing a betrayal encounter or an incursion every once in a while
but for both of those if you die or have to logout during the payoff you get 5 more portals

with heist you only get the one

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I meant the alva map encounter

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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yeah me too
i don't mind losing one of those every once in a while, each one isn't worth much

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they're also really quick so usually i don't encounter problems during them

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my big point isn't about my desyncs though

my big point is that if you choose to play softcore, clearly you want to not lose shit when you die, and i don't understand why they would take that agency away from the players

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Also: no it is your connection. I dont care if you've used other connections. Because I have a average (30 mbps down, 5 up) connection and have 0 problems with desync

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I mean, that's the devs choice for the mechanic. They are turning up the loot quality in exchange for chance to lose it.

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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dude i don't care whether it's my connection or not
sure, it's my connection, move on

i care about player agency

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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More risk more reward

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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i choose to play softcore, don't make me lose shit when i die after i've already indicated with my choice of league that i don't want that

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Then dont play that mechanic

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Its not mandatory

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You still have the agency to just sell all the stuff related to the mechanic off

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:12 PM

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i mean, sure, i could skip the whole league
most people (me included) don't want to do that though
which i think you can probably understand (if not, consider: do you play standard? that's what skipping the league would be like)

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I play league for the fresh economy and fresh start. Not cuz of the league mechanics themselves.

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Also, GGG isnt goin to change the loss of contraband items.

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:16 PM

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no of course they aren't, they built the whole league around it
i'm still salty that they built the whole league around a mechanic that reduces player ability to choose whether they want to play hardcore or not though

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I mean. You arent losing the character which is actually what hardcore would do

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Its effectively saying that you dont get your loot till the moment you get out. You just get to see the loot before then

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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the problem is not that you don't get the loot until the moment you get out, that's totally fine
all boss fights are like that

the problem is that you get one portal instead of six

timid geyser Sep 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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You aren't losing anything. You just don't get the items until you leave the heist. 🙂

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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see above comment

violet nymph Sep 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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How do you know it's not more for grand heists??

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They've not given exact info on anything

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:19 PM

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because they've said that if you die after alarm in grand heist you still lose all your shit

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you can try the next wing, but that wing is gone forever

timid geyser Sep 4, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I mean luckily if you really don't like it you should be able to trade almost all the heist related stuff assuming you are playing trade league

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:20 PM

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yeah that's definitely a good thing, but saying "if you don't like the league mechanic you can sell it" doesn't make me less disappointed in the league mechanic lol

timid geyser Sep 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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iirc DC only really matter once the "alarm" is going off. before hand I'm pretty sure you can re-enter the instance.

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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yeah that's what they've said

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i don't like that triggering alarm deletes my other 5 portals

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because it's non-optional, you can't complete the heist without alarming

rough oyster Sep 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Guys, if a contract/blueprint drops the area level bases, we will need a tons of extra level watchstones to gain high level contracts, to farm the lvl 86 bases. What do you think?

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:27 PM

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makes sense to me
doesn't seem like a huge issue to me though? they're not trying to have heist replace mapping, they're planning on you doing both

timid geyser Sep 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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tbh I'd just wait an see. Might not be as bad as you think.

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even if you end up losing 1/10 of your contracts due to dc it shouldn't be the end of the world.

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I understand the frustration though.

somber wolf Sep 4, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Do you think that the end chest in a heist counts as a +1 or +2 like a boss in a map?

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:29 PM

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i mean, i'm still definitely going to play the league, it won't be the end of my PoE

it's just frustrating

thank you for understanding the frustration

tawny ravine Sep 4, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Now that you mention it, where/who are we robbing exactly, anyway? They seem to have better security than Conquerors guarding whole worlds.

timid geyser Sep 4, 2020, 6:32 PM

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No word on the story

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:32 PM

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i don't think they've said yet
keeping it mysterious

timid geyser Sep 4, 2020, 6:32 PM

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You'll have to find out once the league is released 🙂

rough oyster Sep 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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I'm not worryed much about DC, when I had net issues, I got a feeling, that the most DC was, when a lot of monsters spwaned(Legion, Harvest), moved/attacked(Harvest), died at the same time, or a lot of items droped, I think GGG know this, and they don't spawn a lot of monsters, or the loot is droped a bit slower from chests, so they have a better control over the mechanic.

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:35 PM

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i hope you're right

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that is a good point

tawny ravine Sep 4, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Doesn't having infinite amount of enemies spawn while escaping qualify at least 3 of that list though?

digital belfry Sep 4, 2020, 6:37 PM

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i would think so

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but it might be wave spawning like delve fights which i've never had issues with

rough oyster Sep 4, 2020, 6:38 PM

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They spawn in waves, there was a clip in Baeclast where we could see it.

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Ziggy showed.

tawny ravine Sep 4, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Just saw, okay, I guess it can't be THAT bad then

valid isle Sep 4, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I am glad i have good internet, this league seems scary for people who crash/dc often

weak rain Sep 4, 2020, 8:22 PM

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honestly one of the best qol of the league is that markers and blueprints drop from every content

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i can give delve a go again then

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Ziggy showed.
@rough oyster can i ask the timestamp of the video? 🙂

sharp iron Sep 5, 2020, 12:36 AM

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That divination card is going to rival The Doctor in value

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 12:40 AM

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i doubt it

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specially if there are no alt qual awaken gems and some fo the alt qual ones are amazing for many of the builds that would otehrwise have wanted awaken 6/23

sharp iron Sep 5, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Look at PoE ninja. There is a level 6 Awakwened support selling for 49 exalts (while Headhunter is just 30 exalts). And that support gem isn't 23% quality.

primal whale Sep 5, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Question is if people are really actively buying a single support for 49ex.

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Headhunter is still a go-to unique for a lot of players hence it will always sell

tight wing Sep 5, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Yeah. Those 30 ex are almost "confirmed". 49 ex for a random weighted gacha? I doubt it.

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Hey, will there be alternate quality awakened gems? And could this roll one if so?

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No Alt Quality awakened gems.


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so

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no alt awaken gems

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maybe some of them will still be chase gems

tight wing Sep 5, 2020, 12:57 AM

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No altwakens :(

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 12:57 AM

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but i bet there might be some alt qual regular gems peopel willi want more

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900 alt gems

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we haven't even seen a tiny amount of them

waxen spire Sep 5, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Another wiki leave for me then

primal whale Sep 5, 2020, 12:58 AM

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There was also almost 300 new notables in Delirium and like 95% of those are trash

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so don't expect many to be good

waxen spire Sep 5, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I don't know the quality effect of most gems

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 12:59 AM

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@primal whale agreed

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but still gotta see all 900 first

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more spcifically. any of them that do chaos conversion ;P

radiant niche Sep 5, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Do you boiz think some alternate quality will be superior to their awakened version ? Or just plan different

sharp iron Sep 5, 2020, 1:37 AM

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With a few exceptions, I think awakened supports will always best alternative quality supports. But you also need to remember that there aren't awakened skill gems but are alternative quality skill gems.

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Alternative quality gems will also be more easily obtained.

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 2:37 AM

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more easily?

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there are 900 of them

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thej method will be more available but

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its a giant pool to pick from and you aren't getting one every heist iirc

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i bet ther ewill be chase gems

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worth alot

thick tiger Sep 5, 2020, 3:05 AM

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the quality mod on gems should be a different color or seperate like an implicit to make seeing a difference easier

silver kettle Sep 5, 2020, 3:06 AM

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@thick tiger you'll be able to see it separately by holding alt

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it can't be displayed separately all the time because sometimes it's a stat that's already on the skill normally, and also because we want it to still be viewable even if the gem currently has 0 quality

spiral cipher Sep 5, 2020, 3:08 AM

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So we gonna talk about dem der faster projecitles support or we just let that one be?

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personally i'm more excited for slower projecitles

radiant lance Sep 5, 2020, 3:43 AM

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bv ;p

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i think the bv one is my favourite so far... faster projectiles sounds cool on the surface but dont we already have return mechanics in the game and they havent seemed to be super popular... so i guess i'm lukewarm

somber wolf Sep 5, 2020, 3:45 AM

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The Bored in Exile activity book deserves to be a bestseller.

spiral cipher Sep 5, 2020, 4:03 AM

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@radiant lance it takes your annoint which is pretty valuable on rnager

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but faster porjecitles isn't the best gem in the world

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@radiant lance actually correction bigger reason chain gunning shenanigans exist

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and it cost a annoint

radiant lance Sep 5, 2020, 4:10 AM

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@somber wolf thanks 🙂

slim flicker Sep 5, 2020, 7:47 AM

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I am curious, are Grand Heists (or i guess the 'wings'?) rollable like regular Heists/maps? If so, do the rewards that we can see before running the Grand Heist change with the roll mods similar to IIQ/IIR for maps? If the rewards that are known beforehand don't change according to the mod rolls, I feel like its better to just run it without any increased difficulty mods (or to scour the mods after a high value reward has been revealed). I doubt it works as described above, but so then how do mods on Grand Heists interact with the knowable rewards? Maybe it's like corrupted maps where mods and rewards cant change once they have been revealed?

timid geyser Sep 5, 2020, 7:54 AM

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From the looks of things yes. Grand Heists which would be blueprints are craftable

native sonnet Sep 5, 2020, 7:55 AM

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"map-like" mods rollable yes, but dont think the rewards change according to the roll

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not sure if the different base type i.e bunker vs repository vs laboratory we've seen has any influence on the rewards yet

slim flicker Sep 5, 2020, 7:56 AM

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k ty. Ya'll can see the potential 'hack' here right? Was I clear in the description?

timid geyser Sep 5, 2020, 7:56 AM

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From what Chris said in ziggy interview it sounds like the base type will determine the reward types.

native sonnet Sep 5, 2020, 7:57 AM

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not sure what u mean still notaspy

slim flicker Sep 5, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Like, If I know that I can get a good reward up front, why would I risk putting crafting extra mods that would make the escape more risky?

native sonnet Sep 5, 2020, 7:58 AM

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because u could get more?

timid geyser Sep 5, 2020, 7:59 AM

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I'm assuming the mods on the map will still effect rewards one way or another. Would be a pretty silly thing for GGG to skip.

native sonnet Sep 5, 2020, 8:00 AM

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yeah, just went and look at the ones revealed, dont see any extra reward/iiq on the magic/rare ones

slim flicker Sep 5, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Yep! Those are my questions exactly: How do mods affect fixed rewards?

timid geyser Sep 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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We don't know yet 🙂

slim flicker Sep 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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@native sonnet link to the images you are referring to please?

native sonnet Sep 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/wiki/heistinfo

heistinfo - pathofexile

r/pathofexile: A subreddit dedicated to Path of Exile, an ARPG made by Grinding Gear Games. Spiritual successor to Diablo 2

slim flicker Sep 5, 2020, 8:01 AM

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ty!

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 9:04 AM

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what if

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heist final boss is like alternate reality atziri but like with more science-y type people working for her

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shes trying to do all the vaal stuff again but different

timid geyser Sep 5, 2020, 9:06 AM

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I'll have one of whatever your having templarLul

near thunder Sep 5, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Final boss is that first dude you talk to on twilight strand. He wasn't actually dead and is pissed you left him behind

barren crescent Sep 5, 2020, 9:35 AM

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you already fight that dude in a6

tawny ravine Sep 5, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Final boss is Jun, turns out she took over the Syndicate after killing off Catarina

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We've been robbing her all along

violet nymph Sep 5, 2020, 10:25 AM

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it looks like we're stealing from the templar though

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jun ain't templar

wild arch Sep 5, 2020, 10:29 AM

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That's what she wants you to think

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vanity

barren crescent Sep 5, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Cassia

tawny ravine Sep 5, 2020, 10:44 AM

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We all turn to ash?

livid marten Sep 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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question, if i run 100% invisibility (phase run and catstealth) will i be able to run through the entire map without people attacking me even if i am in their face?

copper kernel Sep 5, 2020, 1:05 PM

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nah

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that got nerfed some time ago

kindred dagger Sep 5, 2020, 3:08 PM

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not sure how this league will works basically, hope grand heist and shit wont be to dumb convoluted to use at least, other than that rewards and loot can be interested as it seems for on time they look more unique and special loot than regular shit

wet harbor Sep 5, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Just pray it's not Legion crashy

kindred dagger Sep 5, 2020, 3:36 PM

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harvest wasnt tthat much bug honestl

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it went pretty smooth

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im saying that but i stopped play it after like 2 weeks because it was dull and more the client piss me off everytime, like the game have to be FULLY downloaded even for like 10mo patch... that made me crash

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 3:39 PM

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use standalone :p

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they are planning to improve the steam patching before the new league

kindred dagger Sep 5, 2020, 3:41 PM

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does it change anything if i use the stand alone ? its the same acount ?

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 3:45 PM

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@kindred dagger iirc you have to contact ggg with the email attached to your steam account

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if you created the account through the site, you would just need to link your steam account

kindred dagger Sep 5, 2020, 4:03 PM

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ok thanks

cold bridge Sep 5, 2020, 6:22 PM

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is the vivid scalefruit (synthesise an item) still still usable at lower level? i have a l69 and l70 seed, does it still have use?

weak rain Sep 5, 2020, 6:50 PM

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did they explain how the rares that have a higher chance to roll better affixes work? or still no news about that?

timid geyser Sep 5, 2020, 6:56 PM

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~~No news on it from what I have seen.~~ Misread the question. Still no idea though that has been talked about a bit.

torpid sonnet Sep 5, 2020, 7:06 PM

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iirc chris described it last time he was on baeclast

weak rain Sep 5, 2020, 7:33 PM

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btw i think i'm gonna ssf again

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i just don't find any excitement in trade league anymore

past badger Sep 5, 2020, 7:33 PM

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i wanne try ssf

weak rain Sep 5, 2020, 7:33 PM

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you build the best build you can and then you are left with nothing to do

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at least in ssf there is the excitement to build accordingly to what you find

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even if this league will be rougher than harvest sadly

past badger Sep 5, 2020, 7:34 PM

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yeah, but i guess you learn much more from ssf

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need to lear....moar

weak rain Sep 5, 2020, 7:34 PM

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well it's one of the way to learn about the game for sure

past badger Sep 5, 2020, 7:35 PM

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sure, i get that 😉

valid walrus Sep 5, 2020, 8:24 PM

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can a skill gem have multiple variants of alternate quality?

violet nymph Sep 5, 2020, 8:30 PM

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yes

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each gem is supposed to have like 1-3 alternate quality versions

bronze cave Sep 5, 2020, 8:39 PM

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So alt qual gems are from grand heists only right?

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and same for replica uniques and base types?

devout osprey Sep 5, 2020, 8:40 PM

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yes as far as we know

bronze cave Sep 5, 2020, 8:40 PM

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So there is no league specific stuff dropping from standard heist?

devout osprey Sep 5, 2020, 8:41 PM

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"standard heist"?

bronze cave Sep 5, 2020, 8:41 PM

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heists that are not grand heists

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Those from contracts not from blueprints

devout osprey Sep 5, 2020, 8:41 PM

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and idk i would guess it does have special chests that drops league items

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ah idk

bronze cave Sep 5, 2020, 8:42 PM

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on the other hand incursion rooms also didnt ahve specific loot

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only the temple did

devout osprey Sep 5, 2020, 8:42 PM

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correct

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good question

bronze cave Sep 5, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I just asked Bex and she confirmed

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all these are grand heist only

dusty umbra Sep 5, 2020, 9:20 PM

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yeah all gems are also grand-heist only

hasty perch Sep 5, 2020, 9:56 PM

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some are going to be pricey then

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BV for example

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 10:37 PM

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lets see

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theres 100s left to unveil haha

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how many have we seen? 20 ?

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theres 900? total?

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some will have multiple alt qual options

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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ye, up to 3 variations per gem

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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i figure first few days is the chance to snipe some good ones

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until some streamers show off some new abuse

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and a handful of htem rise in price 😄

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im hoping alt qual cyclone gives movespeed

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or stun resistance

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 10:57 PM

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no need to be streamer to know which ones are good :p

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iirc they're planning to release a list of them before league

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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im not saying im waiting for streamers

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im just saying

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snipe them before the streamers make their videos

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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assuming they won't make videos before league :/

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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true

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we will know all 900 as soon as the GGPK is available

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then its a race

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to make some scuffed videos highlighting some dream build wiht some alt qual gems

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vs us getting them and or sniping them from each other

violet nymph Sep 5, 2020, 11:00 PM

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ugh

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 11:00 PM

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we don't even need datamining

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they will release a list before

violet nymph Sep 5, 2020, 11:00 PM

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to be honest i hate what streamers do to the economy and build variety

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 11:01 PM

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if it's not streamers then it's build creators

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no difference

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 11:01 PM

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its fine with me

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it creates excitement

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i like that there are tons of different sponsored race events

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also

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peopel gonna be trying to copy those builds and its just more hype for the game

autumn snow Sep 5, 2020, 11:03 PM

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it's whatever

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 11:03 PM

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i mean these racers are 1000x better than me so im llooking at their builds too

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and learning how they play. what are they doing that im not doing etc

weak rain Sep 5, 2020, 11:24 PM

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well to be honest is not the streamer that decides which builds is fotm, but just ppl that copy mindlessly what those streamers do

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not saying it's bad but everything in PoE is somewhat viable if you know the game a little bit

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but ppl just prefer to copy what's proven to work, and i can see why

violet nymph Sep 5, 2020, 11:25 PM

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thankfully my starter won't be meta lol

slender temple Sep 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

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im going spectres unless its deleted from game

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and it works with 0 investment

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just as starter. i gatehr some ex and make another char

violet nymph Sep 5, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i'm going berserker heavy strike with ancestral cry and punishment to fix clearspeed

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and damage is never a problem with heavy strike

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got 2m dps with just ahns

digital thistle Sep 5, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i wanne try one of the new steel skills but probably not the best idea to start with

violet nymph Sep 5, 2020, 11:27 PM

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redblade banner to get max rage from every warcry

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and also to give actual uptime for ancestral cry

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i think pob says i have 77% uptime on ancestral cry against my attack speed, and obviously during clearing you're not just holding rmb

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so i'm pretty confident in the clearspeed as long as punishment explosions are large

wicked oak Sep 6, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Have we seen any of the 9 new skills or is that consider the curse change and steel skill changes

timid geyser Sep 6, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Yes.

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Quite a few are on the heist announcement page

wicked oak Sep 6, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I derped. I see the new spells

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But I guess I'm still confused, the changes to curses and steel skills aren't a part of the 9 new skills right?

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I know stupid question lol

crisp tree Sep 6, 2020, 2:11 AM

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no

slender temple Sep 6, 2020, 2:39 AM

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so alt qual item rarity support -> iiq? 😄

woven copper Sep 6, 2020, 3:52 AM

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is there any info on the drop rates of alt qual gems?

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can it be bought in the shop? or it only drops?

tender tusk Sep 6, 2020, 3:54 AM

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alt qual is heist exclusive from the rewards rooms as far as we know atm

woven copper Sep 6, 2020, 4:03 AM

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ohh alright thanks!

slender temple Sep 6, 2020, 4:05 AM

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chase item league

abstract pulsar Sep 6, 2020, 5:32 AM

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hey can anyone help me find the thread where rain of arrow alternate quality was teased?

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i saw it on discord but cant find it on reddit and i wanna read what people think about it

slender temple Sep 6, 2020, 5:45 AM

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if its real it sin one of hte pinned threads on reddit

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@abstract pulsar

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megainfo thread

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on reddit

tender tusk Sep 6, 2020, 6:11 AM

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RoA was from zizs stream

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It's real

rocky nebula Sep 6, 2020, 6:11 AM

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It was probably the chance for extra rain instance

deep wave Sep 6, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Wait...the corpse walker boots spawn corpses as you walk?!

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general cry finally viable?

void wing Sep 6, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Corpses are only an issue if you had corpse removal on the build, for general's cry.

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Since it doesn't consume corpses.

tranquil swallow Sep 6, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Fire reave build guys? Xophs blood kaoms etc

rocky nebula Sep 6, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Sure

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chieftain or berserker?

north dragon Sep 6, 2020, 10:15 AM

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reave lol

velvet palm Sep 6, 2020, 10:46 AM

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You'd be cutting your damage by 33%

radiant niche Sep 6, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Does the corpses boots means you're the most free DD kill ever ?

weak rain Sep 6, 2020, 11:53 AM

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burning arrow just got buffed thank's to asenhat helmet and the new fire wall

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you get the dps boost for free since the helmet will cast the wall for you every time

hasty perch Sep 6, 2020, 4:07 PM

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issue is reave is a dead skill

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because it has like half the damage of other skills

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but requires 1H

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so you can't have 2 6L

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templarLul

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so you can't use it for AoE on a 6L and get another 6L for ST

spiral cipher Sep 6, 2020, 6:11 PM

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huh

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yeah reaves been power crept hard

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Meanwhile attacks stilll not keeping up with spells even end game

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"Balance"

coarse moon Sep 6, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@hasty perch just toss it in a pseudo 5/6 ez

violet nymph Sep 6, 2020, 7:01 PM

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it's unfortunate the build can't function on a low-budget level

echo shale Sep 6, 2020, 10:24 PM

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who made that div templarLul

tawny ravine Sep 6, 2020, 11:39 PM

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So are they ever going to reveal a div card an average player will actually complete a stack of in a given league?

slender temple Sep 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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@tawny ravine find out which supporters haven't gotten div cards released and ask them

tawny ravine Sep 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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...Sorry, I'll admit that was a dumb question

violet nymph Sep 7, 2020, 12:11 AM

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i definitely want to make a div card at some point

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but no mone

paper pecan Sep 7, 2020, 12:11 AM

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When will the patch notrs come out?

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Which shows buff and neef

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Nerf

violet nymph Sep 7, 2020, 12:11 AM

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next week

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on like thursday probably

paper pecan Sep 7, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Okie i hope they buff poison

violet nymph Sep 7, 2020, 12:11 AM

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🤷

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alt quality will probably buff poison on its own

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 12:39 AM

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there is going to be an issue if all the alt versions of gems are prefixed with "exquisite"

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it will be hard to search specific ones

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they shoudl have a naming convention like variant abcde.. etc

cobalt falcon Sep 7, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Will gcp reset quality with alt quality

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Or we use gcp to increase alt quality?

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Its currency or gem drop with diff type

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 1:44 AM

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im guessing gcp raises the quality

valid isle Sep 7, 2020, 3:50 AM

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skeleton archers ;O

deft girder Sep 7, 2020, 4:06 AM

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I hope arctic armour gets a cool quality effect.

tawny ravine Sep 7, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Oh shoot, is SST actually good now?

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Mummy minions when?

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@sharp iron mtx already exists for zombos

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Oh. Nevermind then.

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I wanna see what they do with spectres

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And offerings

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Not all gems are getting alt quality

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At least I don't think so

tender tusk Sep 7, 2020, 4:23 AM

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sst seems promising

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it defs scales better

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 4:23 AM

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I definitely don't want Auras to get alt quality, because increased AoE is a useless stat for most characters so an alternative quality would just plain be the better gem. It's not an alternative or side-grade, it's just an automatic choice upgrade.

tender tusk Sep 7, 2020, 4:23 AM

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you just need to be able to get enough multi and chance to make up for >50% of the base damage you're losing to do it

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 4:29 AM

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@sharp iron 900 alt qual gems for a pool of 430ish gems

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Whatever they giving it's alot

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And yeah some of them will be chase items

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Alright

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The one I'm curious about is probably Increased Rarity support.

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Will the alt quality ones give us increased amount of specific item types dropped?

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 4:55 AM

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its probably just IIQ

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unless they make it add some damgae from quality

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either way it is one to look at

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cuz it will probably not be worth using haha

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I remember them stating something like there will be 3 alts per gem

tender tusk Sep 7, 2020, 4:57 AM

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should be 2-3 per

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Okay

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Something from Harvest that I'm really going to miss are the gem crafts. Being able to turn leveled gens into Lenses and transform gems into other gems. Previously I didn't care about gem drops at all, but those crafts actually made me seek out getting leveled gems from the Incursion temple and from Delve.

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 5:25 AM

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yeah i hope all of that comes back in some form

tawdry heron Sep 7, 2020, 5:49 AM

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@violet nymph patch notes are on tuesday

violet nymph Sep 7, 2020, 5:50 AM

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🤷

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so in 8 days

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or 9

wanton bridge Sep 7, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Yes

violet nymph Sep 7, 2020, 5:50 AM

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depending on your timezone

violet nymph Sep 7, 2020, 6:16 AM

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i'd practice league start but there's stuff that's being changed going into 3.12 that's useful for the build

wild arch Sep 7, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Earendel's fire archer skellies with firewall sound pretty dope

storm crown Sep 7, 2020, 10:23 AM

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im hyped for skeleton archers for sure

paper surge Sep 7, 2020, 10:32 AM

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Fellow Exiles - do we have confirmation if Alt Gems can be Vaal'd?

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I checked both FAQ's but didn't spot it

void wing Sep 7, 2020, 10:40 AM

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Do we have reason to believe they can't?

paper surge Sep 7, 2020, 10:41 AM

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No, but I just wanted to be safe rather than sorry.

compact junco Sep 7, 2020, 10:41 AM

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vaal versions wont have alt qual but the regular version of skills on vaal gem will if that is what you wanted to know

paper surge Sep 7, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Ah yes, thanks!

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Found the source now from Bex: https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/im2fr1/here_are_alternate_quality_versions_of_blade/g3wn8qw/

r/pathofexile - Comment by u/Bex_GGG on ”Here are Alternate Quality...

1,198 votes and 381 comments so far on Reddit

void wing Sep 7, 2020, 10:45 AM

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That's kinda silly tbh.

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I get it doesn't make sense for every skill but for some it will just be conflicting and you'll never want to use the vaal skill.

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I guess it's pretty small no. of affected skills so doesn't matter.

cobalt falcon Sep 7, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Where the info vaal not have alt quality

void wing Sep 7, 2020, 11:09 AM

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The link above.

primal whale Sep 7, 2020, 12:26 PM

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You can still vaal a gem with alt quality. The base gem will keep the alt quality while the vaal version won't have quality

velvet palm Sep 7, 2020, 12:28 PM

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the vaal version will have original quality*

spiral light Sep 7, 2020, 1:04 PM

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hmm thinking about it, wonder if the new experimental base types for jewelerry could mean the return of the legacy ladder base types like golden obi, golden hoop and jet amulet

unkempt pecan Sep 7, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Do we know what happens if you sell a level 20 alternate quality gem?
Do you get a regular 20% quality gem, or the alternate quality one?

hasty perch Sep 7, 2020, 1:47 PM

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waiting for decay alt qual

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exaltThink

velvet palm Sep 7, 2020, 2:16 PM

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decay has a (5% per 1% of quality) to affect your sanity

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@unkempt pecan imho they are just regular gems with a special name that's all

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So you'll get the alt qual gem if your doing vendor recipe for 1/20

signal frigate Sep 7, 2020, 3:52 PM

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i am waiting for the next league to start

storm crown Sep 7, 2020, 4:07 PM

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is the metheod of geting alternative quality is accuired?

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is it just a random gemdropp?

devout osprey Sep 7, 2020, 4:07 PM

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from heists is all what we know

spiral light Sep 7, 2020, 4:19 PM

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grand heists*

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no exclusive drops from regular heists

timid geyser Sep 7, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Those are call contracts.

near thunder Sep 7, 2020, 4:22 PM

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you use contracts to run heists and blueprints to run grand heists

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grand heists drop the alt quality gems

hasty perch Sep 7, 2020, 4:39 PM

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i'm a huge fan of that kind of league mechanic

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being able to loot the contracts while mapping

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and not have some league mechanic disturb your mapping

devout osprey Sep 7, 2020, 4:39 PM

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even delving

hasty perch Sep 7, 2020, 4:39 PM

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then running all of them when you feel like it

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like it's even good for people who dislike the league

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don't like running heist?

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sell all the contracts

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you're getting money out of it

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compared to stuff like blight or alva

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that you either run or lose and break the pace of mapping

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we all know these maps where we go "last map then bed time"

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alva , blight , abyss , abyssal depth , zana abyss

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AHZOIFHAZIFH

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rageSkill

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because not running them is losing money

velvet palm Sep 7, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I like Blight, but I almost never run it

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it'd be nice if all the mobs spawned faster

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(but didn't actually go faster)

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and had all of the routes pre-spawned

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I love Blight and it's Oil rewards, but it does seem pretty luck based.

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I can handle it when the enemies come end up coming together to attack the pump from two directions after the lines merge, but not if they're attacking from three.

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 5:52 PM

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just play minions

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ez laifu

sharp iron Sep 7, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I think I'll do better at them once I get an additional curse. Because cursing enemies does increase the damage your towers deal to them.

raw crest Sep 7, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I struggle with blighted maps, but do fine with the in map encounters

earnest moss Sep 7, 2020, 7:45 PM

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anyone else just get their account locked?

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what's that mean? locked for good? Is GGG done with me?

violet nymph Sep 7, 2020, 8:05 PM

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ask support

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it means you did something wrong and, unless you can find out what you did wrong and appeal, you won't be able to play

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i had to do it once cause i used the word "pornhub" which counts as linking to a pornographic website

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feels bad lol

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 8:16 PM

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steam has gone insane too

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i got an account lock a few weeks ago

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because i sugested someoen visit filterblade.xyz

bold basalt Sep 7, 2020, 8:16 PM

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lol

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 8:16 PM

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so im not gonna be helpful anymore on steam

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the warning was like

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if you do this again

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you arre banned from steam

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not from poe portal

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but steam itself

bold basalt Sep 7, 2020, 8:17 PM

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tbh filterblade.xyz could trigger bot banhammer

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 8:17 PM

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i was like ok can you explain ? etc. an actual human responded and said yeah it sobviously not an issue but dont do it agian !

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thanks steam ban bot

lavish bane Sep 7, 2020, 8:36 PM

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what is the best links for golem? if I need it to do 0 dmg but I just need it alive for buff. Minion life + meat shield support?

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wrong channel, sorry

surreal helm Sep 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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is it possible to chance that base in #old-game-news into a unique with that implicit?

crisp tree Sep 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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heistcat

surreal helm Sep 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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oh wait

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Damn, those are new base weapons

silver kettle Sep 7, 2020, 8:59 PM

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chancing requires the base to have an associated unique item, yeah

deep wave Sep 7, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Jesus EO as an implicit (on a scepter)

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Does grand heist drop items at area level or will it be +1/+2

wild arch Sep 7, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Holy shit I NEED that

finite stump Sep 7, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I like how it appears they already have 3d artwork too for their bases

ocean narwhal Sep 7, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Yo EO as an implicit?

native sonnet Sep 7, 2020, 9:30 PM

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inb4 staff with GB implicit

ocean narwhal Sep 7, 2020, 9:38 PM

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trying to think of a build which would benefit from EO but doesn't path near EO in the first place

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Scion spellcaster?

dull pewter Sep 7, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Ugh this heist league looks like trash like the harvest one :-( rip 2 leagues i dont play in a row

ocean narwhal Sep 7, 2020, 9:40 PM

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What kind of league were you hoping for?

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 9:43 PM

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i would say they are very different directions for a league

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i mean the concept of a heist is pretty dumb considering we are army blasting god slayers. but the mechanic of it might be fun

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and so many new gems to play with

storm crown Sep 7, 2020, 9:45 PM

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sometimes you really need to steal some stuff 😄

slender temple Sep 7, 2020, 9:55 PM

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all i can thikn of is like superman weraing a bandana with eye holes cut out for his eyes adn sneaking around and when hes caught. flaoting into the aira nd laser blasting everythign as he casually floats towards the exit. allt he while laughing ok that was fun you guy scan stop really.

radiant lance Sep 7, 2020, 10:10 PM

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i mean heist seems pretty different from harvest

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harvest was basically '

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'i hope you like crafting'

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heist is like a blend of delve, betrayal and some other shenanigans

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i guess if you were hoping for more 'kill a billion monsters in a map and get extra loot explosions' though, its probably not doing it for you

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but after delirium... its probably okay to have a break for a couple of leagues

weak rain Sep 7, 2020, 10:13 PM

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well afaik there will be waves of monster that try to kill you when heist enoucnters end so

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we don't know the density yet ;D

lucid stone Sep 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

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They might make heists more dangerous than deliriums if you set off the alarm.

weak rain Sep 7, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i really think that heist it's a well rounded league

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you get everything, bases, new gems, bossing, a customizable end game that's alternative to mapping

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and that is virtually infinite considering that heists and grand heists drop blueprints

wild arch Sep 7, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Not quite

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You do all other content to access regular heists

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And get blueprints in the regular ones to do grand heists

weak rain Sep 7, 2020, 10:22 PM

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iirc they said that heists and grand heists drop what you need to keep running heists and grand heists

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they won't be seft sustainable but they do drop

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self*

ocean narwhal Sep 7, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Just realized something

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Contracts and blueprints are craftable, you can use orbs on them

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so

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The endgame of heist is probably unique contracts/blueprints

weak rain Sep 7, 2020, 10:30 PM

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that'd be great!+

finite stump Sep 8, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Has 6 abyssal sockets

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Knockoff shroud

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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ha

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thats more like BIS item for some builds

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if they dont need 6 sockets in chest

finite stump Sep 8, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Think of the poacher shennanigans

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 12:33 AM

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holy crap

finite stump Sep 8, 2020, 12:33 AM

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I wasn't lying

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Lol

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 12:33 AM

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what will replica tabula be then

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if there is one

devout osprey Sep 8, 2020, 12:34 AM

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6 unveiled mods

finite stump Sep 8, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Yeah

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I'd like to see replica nightveil

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 12:34 AM

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so a probably-garbage rare and not having 6 linked sockets means it wil lbe 99.9999999% vendor trash

finite stump Sep 8, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Oh shit... That could be broken good

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Replica [[nightveil]]

devout osprey Sep 8, 2020, 12:35 AM

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will the replica vendor for 7 abyssal jewellers sockets?

finite stump Sep 8, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Veil of the night sorry*

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Elemental resistances are zero now reads like elemental resistances are now 80

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 12:36 AM

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haha

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no it will be something cursed but somehow useful like elemental resistances are now -100 for yourself and anyone nearby

finite stump Sep 8, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Maybe specific elements

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Cold resistance is now 0

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Or lightning resistance is now 0 which could play into doryanis chest

devout osprey Sep 8, 2020, 12:42 AM

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wait so that replica is there means other boss drops can be there too

vagrant mantle Sep 8, 2020, 12:42 AM

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is that shroud of the lightless as bad as i think it is

silver kettle Sep 8, 2020, 12:43 AM

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@devout osprey we revealed replica Acuity on day 1 😛

devout osprey Sep 8, 2020, 12:43 AM

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that too true

crisp tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:43 AM

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its bad, no mods

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:44 AM

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could be good on facebreakers

vagrant mantle Sep 8, 2020, 12:44 AM

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but then you dont have a 6link

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:44 AM

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then again you give up your 6 link so probobly not

lime pivot Sep 8, 2020, 12:44 AM

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It looks useable but not great unless u have some really dumb jewels

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Any build that could run koams heart could take this instead

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:45 AM

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my thought is a golem build could be crazy

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since you get a ton of scaling off of flat damage with golems

vagrant mantle Sep 8, 2020, 12:45 AM

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yeah i think minions would love it

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:45 AM

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it has to be a specific minion build though imo since they usually get starved for sockets already

vagrant mantle Sep 8, 2020, 12:46 AM

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i played a dancing dervish champ, and my #1 dmg source was added phys abyss jewels

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:47 AM

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but yah i think yhe best build you can make with this might be a light poacher build

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does barrage support work on light poacher? because if it does you might be able to do something a bit silly with it

crisp tree Sep 8, 2020, 12:48 AM

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but losing body armour is bad

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no explodie, no extra spectre

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:48 AM

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golem builds cant use spectres

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yes expodie is a draw back for other phys builds but i think if you decide to scale ele damage it could be a good option

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 12:50 AM

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The potential on replica shroud is insane.

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But it will cost a fortune and will prolly only work for 2-hand builds or pseudo links

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:52 AM

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when poe2 comes out though

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it could be could be insane

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 12:52 AM

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What does poe 2 do about this chest?

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Yeah sure you get a bunch of links

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But even before it's an insane item

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:53 AM

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it rmeoves the drawback of not having a 6 link

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wich is the main drawback too the item. if it retains 6 abyss sockets then it seems like a straight buff

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 12:54 AM

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This is still a league specific item

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We don't even know if it will drop after Heist is over

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:54 AM

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standard

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Standard has way more broken shit than this

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:54 AM

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true.

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but it still has legacy abyss jewels doesnt it?

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Yeah

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Idk if you'll be able to use standard poe 1 items in poe 2 tho

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 12:56 AM

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they said its going to be hard but they want to just convert the sockets for all the items currently in circulation. i could be wrong though its been a while since i saw the streams where they talked about the game

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Ngl I dont wanna by in their shoes for this poe 2 stuff

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all the content that they somehow gotta make work in poe 2

vital void Sep 8, 2020, 1:06 AM

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yah its gonna be hard. i can trust things will go well though.

white vector Sep 8, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Has there been any news regarding spell changes, new spells, passive tree changes, Ascendency changes, etc?

devout osprey Sep 8, 2020, 1:09 AM

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gotta wait for manifesto

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:09 AM

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no big ascendancy reworks but we know necro is getting nerfed

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curses are getting buffed for selfcast

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etc

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read the heist page

white vector Sep 8, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Dang elementalist will probably still get the shaft :b

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:10 AM

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that chest they just showed us

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is a necro buff

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:10 AM

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the necro nerf i'm talking about is a defensive nerf

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:11 AM

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remove glancing blows and mistress

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and it wont affect my necro build

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:11 AM

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mistress of sacrifice is gonna get bonked

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:11 AM

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i dont use either of them

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and stil have max block

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:11 AM

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glancing blows needs something to happen to it, but i doubt it's getting removed

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:11 AM

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my build is week 1 and bit of week 2 build tho

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then i switch to new build

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Glancing blows is actually fine

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es/life on block make it kinda broken

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:13 AM

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remove the ability to gain life/es/mana on block

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from glancing blows specifically

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:13 AM

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that would be pretty bad

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glancing blows already costs you 50% damage of each blocked hit as damage to you

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anyway putting some timeless jewel skills on tree was an experiment

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im sure ggg is moving them around

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:15 AM

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did they say that

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:15 AM

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or removing / adding some

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not sure

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checking now

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if anything

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glancing blows is prably the least problematic one

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agnostic on the tree was kind of op

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and its in a really easy spot to reach

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:16 AM

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idk man

📎 unknown.png

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it's the most used point on the tree

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:17 AM

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that is true

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hmm

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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2873739

We've also added new Keystones as part of our effort to support newer mechanics. These Keystones are: The Impaler, Imbalanced Guard and Call to Arms.```

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so maybe they want to keep them there idk

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:18 AM

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i wish pob gave dps from the impaler keystone

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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if you just select keystones yeah agnostic at bottom

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on HC and SSFHC its like 52% glancing blows

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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technically the impaler is the least used keystone lol

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:19 AM

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agnostic around 5-7% in each league

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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which is weird because it's a pretty huge node for slammers

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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ok so glancing blows was popular

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call to arms is like 42% on HC

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HCSSF

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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because enduring cry

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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yeah

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instant heal

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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📎 unknown.png

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:20 AM

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37% regular HC

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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probably getting nerfed

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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probably

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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would deserve it too

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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back to the garbage it was before

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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it's still free endurance charges with no investment

primal whale Sep 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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If they chose to nerf it, it will be a very small one

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:21 AM

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oh HC the highest % skill used is raise spectre

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on SC its different but cyclone is misleading as people use it for utility as well

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sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 1:22 AM

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My main prediction for what is getting nerfed is the Whispers of Doom notable.

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:22 AM

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why

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:22 AM

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doubtful

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:22 AM

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whispers of doom is fine

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and theres tons of ways to get +1 curses

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sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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The new mechanic with curses is called the "Doom" mechanic. As the notable has "Doom" in its name, it would only make sense that it would get something knew that interacts with Doom.

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And then it would be too powerful if it had both bonuses to Doom and an additional curse, so the additional curse would have to get removed.

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:23 AM

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this is HC

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necros definately need a nerfing

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even as a person whos made a ton of necros

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ill admit it

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im scared ;\ raise spectre was a bit tooo popular

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:25 AM

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they'll probably nerf a bunch of specific spectres

sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Because there's not that many ascendancies with minion passives, they will natually be more common on the leaderboards. As people who want to play summoner characters won't have that many choices of ascendancies to build into, while something like people who want to play melee characters have lots more to choose (so they'll be divided up more)

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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redemption sentry

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etc

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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i didnt use redemption sentries

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😄

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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slave drivers

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all the meta ones

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:26 AM

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i used primal crushclaws which probably won't even be available

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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those are harvest

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so yeah no

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 1:27 AM

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its ok

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ill use sandworn slaves

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and freezing wolves

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or something weird

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nerf the popular stuff 😄

sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 2:28 AM

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One of the more interesting things I discovered from Harvest crafting is that the extremely powerful Vaal architect affixes don't have any traits to them, making it so they will never be removed by Harvest crafts like "remove a random caster mod from an item". Which is pretty powerful, considering that one trait of those affixes is that if you use a transitional annul orb on the item, it will always target that affix first as to prevent people from crafting with those.

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Wait a second, I just looked up Orb of Annulment on the wiki and I don't see that trait listed for them anymore. I might be wrong on that.

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I can't even find any reference to those modifiers existing on the wiki wtf

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Am I going through a Mandala effect? I swear those special affixes exist.

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No, my wand does clearly have the prefix mod "Tacati's". This isn't me imagining things.

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This might just be the most obscure kind of affix in the game

crisp tree Sep 8, 2020, 3:03 AM

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tacati is from incursion

sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 3:16 AM

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I know

fathom bolt Sep 8, 2020, 5:15 AM

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has GGG said how minions will react to heist enemies?

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 5:17 AM

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like normal

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so if you want a ton of chests

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don't play minions

fathom bolt Sep 8, 2020, 5:34 AM

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im still very on the fence about returning this upcooming league, kinda want to play something passive as its my first leagues on pc and ill be learning proper mouse controls, was kinda hoping summons would be viable

orchid pendant Sep 8, 2020, 5:39 AM

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The Alert increase is very low for alerting guards. They tested with Minion builds.

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Like... Minion builds specifically. (or so Chris says in the Ziggy Q&A)

fathom bolt Sep 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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wonder if heavy hitting builds can avoid the alert by one hitting the mob

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I doubt it

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This isn't skyrim

hasty perch Sep 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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avoiding the alert by one tapping screens with discharge

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ah yes

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SNEAK

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galaxyBrainSkill

sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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I feel like if you wanted to go max stealth (even though that's really not required) Lightning Warp would actually be the best way to go. Since it allows you to cross a long distance without having been in the distance, and can allow you to go through some objects.

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I'm pretty sure it has higher range than a teleport like Frostblink. So you could jump from one cover to another without guards getting a line of sight on you.

rapid karma Sep 8, 2020, 7:36 AM

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So do you have to sneak to get the best rewards for the league mechanic, or is it more like Blight where you can do the content with minimal towers but its a lot harder?

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Fighting the guards and looting stuff builds up alarm

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When alarm is maxed you can't loot anymore and have to escape

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Less random killing = more looting

rapid karma Sep 8, 2020, 7:54 AM

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damn that kinda sucks. Seems like theyre forcing you to play a certain way

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Don't see how a bit of variety is a bad thing

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Its not as restrictive as that, that is just a short version.
Killing guards adds a drop of alarm progress, opening chests and things adds much more, and looting the big artifact triggers it instantly. After the trigger, you have 20 seconds to loot what you didn’t already before everything goes into lockdown and guards start spawning everywhere. The only real restriction at that point is making it out alive.

strange minnow Sep 8, 2020, 8:23 AM

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So, some builds will have a huge advantage over others, when facing heist mechanics?

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Them devs are probably willing to avoid such thing as much as possible

tender tusk Sep 8, 2020, 8:36 AM

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not really

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guards only increase it a little

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it's mostly stealing that that raises it

marsh oracle Sep 8, 2020, 10:39 AM

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Alarm going off doesn't seem like a big deal just take loot and run map like it's delirium

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Then go next

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 1:30 PM

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basically if you want all the chests, you're probably not gonna want to kill much

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otherwise kill shit

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i personally am more interested in the chest loot so i'll be going for it

hybrid mist Sep 8, 2020, 1:53 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/175003881300951040/752692725249212558/unknown.png

basic attack build finally viable

lime pivot Sep 8, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Pogg

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Its basically a build ur own chest

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 2:26 PM

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huh...

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you could have x6 reduced mana reserved jewels in there

sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Because you can get the 1% reduced mana reserved corruption on Abyss jewels, this pushes new limits on how many auras you can have up on your solo character.

torpid sonnet Sep 8, 2020, 2:37 PM

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reduced reservation already exists on chest slot

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https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Saqawal's_Nest

Path of Exile Wiki

Saqawal%27s_Nest

sharp iron Sep 8, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Oh. I stand corrected.

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Bestiary uniques is like the only league I haven't looked at the uniques for.

dusty umbra Sep 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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i mean 6x good 1% reduced mana res jewels are better than saquals

ocean narwhal Sep 8, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I wonder how much time it'll take to level up our thieves

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If unique blueprints require a particular team, I can imagine there being complaints about running endless contracts just so tibbs can be level 7 strength

sterile fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 2:59 PM

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name a better chase unique than replica shroud

ocean narwhal Sep 8, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Headhunter

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because you don't lose a 6link when you wear one

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 3:07 PM

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shroud gives you boss dps

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headhunter does not

dusky oracle Sep 8, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Replica shroud the new build a be...chest

torpid sonnet Sep 8, 2020, 3:23 PM

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6 good 1% rmr jewels will be insanely expensive

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and you give up a 6link for it

ocean narwhal Sep 8, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Not if you're using 1h weapons

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Thinking about elemental sst

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Replica abyssus with the ele pen support from replica bitterdream might have some potential

copper kernel Sep 8, 2020, 4:13 PM

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how are you going to not die every time you enter a map that has a hint of elemental dmg

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Just dodge templarLul

velvet palm Sep 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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sheer willpower

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man too angry to die

copper kernel Sep 8, 2020, 4:14 PM

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man too angry to level up

dusty umbra Sep 8, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Divine flesh templarLul

sterile fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Replica shroud bis for ele builds all day. And use 2 handers for 6link duh or pseudo helm / gloves

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Just use hungry loop templarLul

copper kernel Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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2h ele builds?

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PepeLaughW

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its only good for summoners

sterile fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Lmao

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 5:10 PM

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2h doesn't even look that bad for ele after last league's buffs

sterile fulcrum Sep 8, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Bows for one

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It’s insane Better flat than hyrris and 250+ life

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 5:12 PM

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If the assumption that replica bitterdream vendors into ele pen gem is correct then that's gonna be huge for raw element stacking builds

wet plaza Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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250+ life? in std?

compact junco Sep 8, 2020, 5:14 PM

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with bows you will be limited to scourge arrow basically

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as you would lose second 6l

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what is well, ele SA isnt as good as it was

slender temple Sep 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@wild arch the gem probably available from lilly roth too. making the new bitterdream a mistake to pick up just like original

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 5:51 PM

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That wouldn't make sense

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If ele pen is available in the shop then it straight up makes the 3 individual penetration supports completely redundant

timid geyser Sep 8, 2020, 6:02 PM

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It is probably going to be 37% at level 25 (from shroud) and level 20 will be slightly lower vs other pen gems

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Well if they do it dirty like that then yeah

violet nymph Sep 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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new bitterdream is an amazing leveling item

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just get skitterbots, link with infernal legion, and they're chilled shocked and burning

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Hmm

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Get the alt ailments on crit jewel and enjoy 60% more damage on ele hit

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chrisThinking

timid geyser Sep 8, 2020, 6:22 PM

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~~and reserved like 90% of your mana with skitterbot.~~ I'm dumb monkaHmm

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 6:23 PM

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What kind of build are you running where skitterbots with a low multiplier support cost 90% reserve

timid geyser Sep 8, 2020, 6:25 PM

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nvm. Inspiration is only support gem they would even apply to skitterbots. I read that as linking skitterbots inside the bitterdream

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Waaaaaaait

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Infernal legion doesn't even work in this case

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Gonna need some other minion that ignites for you

timid geyser Sep 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Nah it works for procing immolate. infernal legion is considered burning.

wild arch Sep 8, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Burning isn't an ailment

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Wait

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You're talking about immolate

young knoll Sep 8, 2020, 9:19 PM

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So is this league gonna favor zoom zoom builds? Do the monsters once treasure is stolen also drop loot? Should we kill them or just get out ASAP?

velvet palm Sep 8, 2020, 9:19 PM

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shouldn't favour zoom zoom

timid geyser Sep 8, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Hard to say without actually playing the league.

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Yes, but you can't farm the infinite guard spawns while the alarm is going because they stop providing experience and items once a certain number have been generated by that spawner.```

hasty perch Sep 8, 2020, 9:28 PM

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the question being

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how high is that number

spiral light Sep 8, 2020, 9:45 PM

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probably an amount close to the number of enemies that spawn while you're on the way to the exit

ocean narwhal Sep 9, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I think the definite intention is to escape as quick as possible

slender temple Sep 9, 2020, 12:09 AM

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predicting this now: its the order of the djinn we are robbing

violet nymph Sep 9, 2020, 12:31 AM

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no

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there were templar symbols

slender temple Sep 9, 2020, 12:38 AM

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they are pretending

zealous monolith Sep 9, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Did someone ever clarify whether Void Sphere is hit or DoT?

slender temple Sep 9, 2020, 1:16 AM

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i hope its hit

violet nymph Sep 9, 2020, 1:18 AM

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It pulses