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[cunning blade]

[compact junco]

bv generally do not works without explosions/prolif tho

[cunning blade]

yea :c

and poison BV sucks on occultist i assume?

bane pop occultist it is I guess ;-;

[compact junco]

it kind of works on occult, i know that @midnight phoenix did it

[cunning blade]

i mean compared to assassin

[compact junco]

well you get defense + pops vs damage on assassin

[cunning blade]

don't think the lack of need to use explody chest justifies ;-;

start with bane pop then degenerate into a necromancer later on, sounds like a plan

[compact junco]

why not just stick with bane then

[cunning blade]

bossing dps poo poo

[compact junco]

with investment it can do very good damage with blight

[midnight phoenix]

bv poison occult is legit

ur like 50000x more tanky than assassin

damage is worse tho

[cunning blade]

@midnight phoenix hows clear

u rely on explody chest too or

profane bloom

[midnight phoenix]

no u have profane bloom

u can use a explody chest as well if u want

but i didnt bother

also in regular leagues explody chest is quite annoying to get early

so if ur assassin u have to either put up with shit clear or have a bino in weaponswap

[cunning blade]

do u use

[midnight phoenix]

and both options are not good

[cunning blade]

obliterations?

[midnight phoenix]

no

u can if u want i suppose

damage is much worse

i used 2 cold iron point and changed to bow

[cunning blade]

hmm ok

wait what makes u tanky tho

besides having like 9k+ es

[lunar stirrup]

is this a spoiler channel?

[cunning blade]

well there really isn't anything to spoil

everything is pure speculation

[compact junco]

you get divine flesh for basically free on occult

[cunning blade]

wait wat

[compact junco]

with malediction on top its fairly tanky

well you get 60% chaos res from withering prsence

so capping chaos res is ez

[cunning blade]

ah ok

life stack occultist

hmm

thoughts on this tree for SA?

what makes wind dancer good btw

[compact junco]

20% less damage if you werent hit recently is pretty damn good

the channeling nodes suck btw

i wouldnt waste points on them

i would also grab more jewel sockets

[cunning blade]

how is arrow dancing btw

[compact junco]

its alright

[autumn snow]

it's good

[hybrid tapir]

any1 know when harvest ends ? i havent really seen anything .mayb there hasnt been an announcement yet

[devout osprey]

14th

[swift terrace]

isnt 14th day new league start? Harvest should end like a day or two before

[devout osprey]

14th is end of harvest, 18th is new league

[tender tusk]

18/19th is leaguestart

it's always a fri/sat

[wheat fable]

If i have a char in harvest, on 14th it will be moved in normal?

[devout osprey]

to standard yes

[half moon]

are we allowed to talk about leaks here?

[velvet palm]

no

[half moon]

then what's the point of this channel atm smh

[velvet palm]

just waiting until the reveal

[shy belfry]

What if the league is called unknown!

[valid isle]

bamboozled.

[slender temple]

the league name is 3.12

there i spoiled it

[barren crescent]

The moment its out officially, you are free to talk to your hearts content

[velvet palm]

I had to read that three times, thought it said "it's out"

[deep wave]

1 mins left?

[devout osprey]

video is out

if you mean servers its like any moment

[silver kettle]

https://www.pathofexile.com/heist?boat=true

[final adder]

pog

[rich pagoda]

So, are we working with the syndicate in the next league?

Is that what i got from the trailer?

[wanton rivet]

what the heck is this league lmao

[weary crater]

mechanics to ignore because raw mapping will be faster $/hr wooooo

[rotund pine]

pogger

[hybrid garnet]

yoooo fire bow base

maybe burning arrow will be good!

[mellow night]

looks meh

@hybrid garnet yeah bro cant wait to go back to gambling crafting

[sonic glen]

wait so does this mean you can skip the campaign?

[hybrid garnet]

no please

[mellow night]

or farm a mirror and mirror the best bow in the league hue

[hybrid garnet]

I dont want to craft

[mellow night]

so fun bro

[hybrid garnet]

I really really fucking dont want to use non harvest crafting

[rich pagoda]

Chaos orb spam go brrrrrr

[mellow night]

@hybrid garnet well thats all u are gonna get cuz harvest isnt going core

back to shitty crafting

[hybrid garnet]

tho I did use to make decent money chaos spamming shaper rings for ass mark

I KNOW DONT REMIND ME

Im gonna see how this next league plays

[mellow night]

actually u cant even call it crafting

its pretty much a gambling simulator

[hybrid garnet]

and if Im not into it maybe ill go back to warframe

[shy belfry]

Hoping

[hybrid garnet]

If they just make a few small changes

like

Oh high ilvl bases cant roll the lowest few tiers of mods

or

[crisp tree]

matrix door

[hybrid garnet]

idk ANYTHING

then itll be better

[hasty perch]

the theme of the league looks dope

can't wait

[hybrid garnet]

just give us something so that crafting isnt pulling teeth

[final adder]

getting pirate vibes

yarr

[crisp tree]

new slot?

[final adder]

trinkets right

[drowsy thunder]

BOAT

https://www.pathofexile.com/heist?boat=true
Just check the link; boat = true

[final adder]

One of the exclusive rewards you'll be able to steal from Grand Heists are Trinkets, which go in their own new equipment slot. These magical items influence what rewards you'll find from future Heists you run. Some of their modifiers affect the items dropped by enemies and chests, while others modify the rewards you could obtain from a Heist's special reward chests.

[half current]

900 NEW GEMS :poggers:

[solemn moss]

slaughter my way to the vault
alarm system going bananas
steal everything
TP out
???
Profit

[hasty perch]

does punishment change means that on hit punishment on gear means free explodey chest?

🤔

[final adder]

think so

[hasty perch]

i mean not as good ofc but pretty much profane bloom stuff

that's very big

[half current]

New equip slot

Poggers

[crisp tree]

nice

[half current]

Very nice

[final adder]

ye I think the trinkets only apply to heists right

[hasty perch]

drop corrupted is insane

[final adder]

its not like a stats slot?

[half current]

Not all

[wanton rivet]

new inv slot o_o

[half current]

But yes

Most are heist focused

[hasty perch]

drop corrupted = divine orb farming in SSF

[half current]

But some can be global

[hasty perch]

once you get it

[half current]

Curses have been buffed!

Self cast curse I mean

[hasty perch]

the new belt looks like a very simple way to perma berserk

with an instant anticurse mana flask

and self curse gloves

[half current]

The new steel skills is very bonkers

[quaint umbra]

Another fucking betrayal league

[half current]

It’s not betrayal

[final adder]

I think the curse rework thing is gonna be nice

[solemn moss]

I just sharded

[hasty perch]

me seeing "path of exile on macOS" HF with 5 fps bois

voidsphere skill looks very cool

[crisp tree]

👨‍🚒

[half current]

flame wall pog

[final adder]

yea the void sphere looks fun to play with

[hasty perch]

i wonder how high the added fire damage from shooting through flame wall is

[crisp tree]

me rn

[half current]

Consumes bodies

Void sphere is bonkers

[hasty perch]

with the new fireskill overlapping with projs on short range and that we could get a very efficient boss kill combo

[final adder]

it has charges though

[wanton rivet]

lmfao do voided enemies drop loot

[final adder]

so you can't spam it

[half current]

Second wind?

[solemn moss]

@wanton rivet do black holes drop loot? no.

[final adder]

-1 damage support gem

[half current]

Fair

[crisp tree]

vacuum skill

[half current]

The zucc

[final adder]

supports playing void sphere x d

[half current]

I like Ziggy streams

Void sphere doesn’t suck up the loot

Confirmed

[wanton rivet]

nice

[hasty perch]

scales phys right? 🤔

void sphere + shockwave totem

[half current]

The black hole?

[hasty perch]

push and pull 🤔

[valid isle]

Taking bets on Heist League being WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too complicated mechanically

[half current]

Probably is

I like it

[topaz dew]

yea void sphere into like some small aoe bomb skill

[hasty perch]

seems ok

[valid isle]

and thus transforming into a multi-hour sim to set something up lol

[final adder]

as long as its like betrayal its not too bad

[hasty perch]

every league is a bit like that to optimize

[final adder]

complexity wise

[half current]

If it is as betrayal we are fine

[valid isle]

betrayal was fine, yeah.

[hasty perch]

setting up betrayal is a pain too

[valid isle]

this looks like 5x worse though

[hasty perch]

but once it's going

[half current]

Why?

[hasty perch]

as long as we don't have to plant a garden for two hours

[half current]

This looks like betrayal but more action

[valid isle]

gear for the 13 different allies, i suppose

and if you have to worry about asigning them different tasks

[hasty perch]

just have to drag and drop in their inventory tbh

[vapid gazelle]

setting up betrayal is only a pain if you're not going for catherina, i.e. you are making it a pain for yourself

[valid isle]

and if gear is something for optimization rather than just BiS stuff

also, depending on the reuse of trinkets, we could see an influx of exalts

since that trinket that is showcased turns regals into exalts in some %

[half current]

On heist

How many regal drops do you actually see

[hasty perch]

probably too few

5% is kinda low tbh

on a low drop rate item

[final adder]

I kinda like that salvo skill

[valid isle]

yeah, but when you consider the number of players playing

[final adder]

seems fun

[valid isle]

it could be a lot

also "Each existing Path of Exile gem has up to three Alternate Quality versions which grant different quality bonuses than the original gems."

[hasty perch]

you'd probably make a lot more bank on increasing a more common item

[valid isle]

wew, this will be interesting

[hasty perch]

yeah

especially for support gems imo

[valid isle]

each gem though, probably not including awakened gems

unless we are gonna get some shenanigans going with alternate awakened gems lol

and them costing 100s of ex

[hasty perch]

fortify effect on fortify support?

[final adder]

the archmage gem looks good

in the example

[hasty perch]

probably has a fire version too

[crisp tree]

increased effect on auras?

[hasty perch]

i hope more gems have life gain on hit as quality than just cleave

i love that stat

so much QoL for mapping with some decent amount

[half current]

I hope the new curse support isn’t too broken

[hasty perch]

punishment looks broken tbh

[valid isle]

replica abysseus seems like suicide

[half current]

There’s a list of all the replicas?

[hasty perch]

and the fact that it's a curse looks even stronger

[final adder]

kek

[hasty perch]

because we can somewhat safely assume that curse effect will increase explosion damage

if it's a %

[valid isle]

i really question the logic of that new weapon enhancement that makes physical modifiers on the item even better lol

time for 1150+ dps 2h weapons!

[hasty perch]

requires 650 str tho

[valid isle]

that said, love the curse support, since the bane build is one of my favorites

[hasty perch]

is getting to 650str worth 15% more dps on the weapon ?

like you could grab damage instead and get that 15% more damage instead of stacking str

not sure it's always better tbh

[native sonnet]

replica HH where

[final adder]

hehe, exactly what I was thinking about

[valid isle]

oh, 200% increased. I misread that lol

[hasty perch]

replica HH steals mods from magic monsters

[valid isle]

yeah, 656 str is a bit much

[hasty perch]

on high end gear it's probably better tho

with like chieftain

and it's +%str

[valid isle]

void sphere will be interesting

[hasty perch]

if you can get a few +60 str on rings

[half current]

replica Abyssus looks interesting as fuck

[vapid gazelle]

replica HH, every time you hit a rare monster it gains an extra nemesis modifier

[hasty perch]

memehunter

[valid isle]

chains of emancipation seems very good

[hasty perch]

yes

[half current]

there''s a card that gives a T13 100% deli map

[hasty perch]

you can permaberserker with it

[torpid sonnet]

From ziggy's stream, they seem kinda bad

[half current]

13 stack

interesting

[weary crater]

they added garrisons to poe

[hasty perch]

yeah not sure i'd grab those acuity

[valid isle]

100% delerium lol

[random bone]

ashamed its not 13 modifiers

[valid isle]

oh god

[devout osprey]

how on earth do i spell that

[valid isle]

if you are curious about the name

[hasty perch]

it's a slot that gets up to like 15% AS and 16% dot multi

[valid isle]

it means fear of the number 13

[half current]

triskaidekaphobia @devout osprey

spelt like this

[devout osprey]

thanks

[half current]

ur welcome

[light jay]

This is just a trailer and some overall introduction but i have mixed vibes about it

[tepid jay]

I for one am not interested in this league mech this time round

[half current]

pepe laugh

[hasty perch]

same , and the alternate quality and replica uniques seem very fun to play around with

[vapid gazelle]

I always have mixed vibes about new league announcements

[valid isle]

that said

[hasty perch]

mac user trying to reach 4fps on PoE

[valid isle]

I knew i saw that word before

[rich cairn]

New league looks really cool but like, it's too much to think about

[half current]

its clearly a reference

[rich cairn]

I just wanna run around, murder things and loot

However I really like the replica uniques, alt qualities, steel skill changes and some of the new skills

I think the new league will grow on me

[half current]

papa chris is talking boiz

[valid isle]

lots of alternate features is pretty cool

should make a ton of new builds possible

[rich cairn]

yep absolutely

[valid isle]

lots of new skills too, so yay

[rich cairn]

The abyssus replica looks real cool

Elemental damage to attacks and more ele damage taken

[light jay]

Pls dont nerf VD pls dont nerf VD

[random bone]

everytime i manage to break awway from PoE they keep pulling me back in

[valid isle]

i consider it suicide though, 50% more ele damage taken is pretty extreme isnt it? lol

[light jay]

it does

[rich cairn]

It's much easier to mitigate than Phys damage right?

[light jay]

depends

depends on your mitigation skills and build

[valid isle]

depends on build yeah, also status effects lol

not looking forward to those 45 second freezes

[half current]

Pls nerf VD pls nerf VD
FTFY

VD and Necro

maybe Glancing too

[light jay]

It's easier to mitigate ele damage with witch mana stackin and arcane clock than full phys cyclone berserker

[final adder]

I'd be suprised if glancing blows wasnt changed or moved

[light jay]

cloak*

[half current]

me too NevS

but I want nerf

like it gives 50% more block

and the same downside

[random bone]

wonder if we are going to be ablee to get white trinkets that we can roll

[light jay]

They said they will add more QOL stuff but didnt seen any

[lime pivot]

Looks fun

Black hole skill looks cool

[random bone]

everyone gonna void sphere

loooks super dope

[light jay]

Vortex and black hole would look dope

[lime pivot]

Yh

What dmg does it do? Chaos?

[light jay]

i'd go with cold damage

[random bone]

physical/chaos i believe? im pretty sure its on the site

[fervent elm]

Any alternate qual gems revealed besides the 4 we have seen frim website

Like maybe jn the videos

[lime pivot]

Idk if ziggyD showed differemt ones

But he showed a few

[fervent elm]

What is void

Oh

[light jay]

it says it slows down enemies sucking them into the void but nothing about damage itself

[random bone]

Chaos/Physical damage

[light jay]

wait nvm

cant read

[valid isle]

void sphere and curses seem fun

gonna throw out black holes then use bane and laugh

[lime pivot]

The self cast curse rework looks nice

[light jay]

I've heard that if you properly vaal this new void skill you can suck Uber Elder by Yourself

[random bone]

I need me a void sphere with 200% increased aoe

[lime pivot]

Yoo

[valid isle]

curious how bane will function now

[lime pivot]

Yh

Imagine the mtx for void sphere

[light jay]

Guess it's another necro leauge then

[lime pivot]

My wallets already crying

The purple support pack looks dope

Spellblade one

[valid isle]

isnt it always a necro league?

[half current]

yes

unless nerf

[crisp tree]

"nerf"

[sonic glen]

having this not be account-level is good

temple/delve/harvest felt really awkward on alts

[sharp iron]

I think minion builds will probably be the weakest here. There doesn't seem to be guards filling every corner of the map, so less corpses to work with, and it's possible that your minions being seen with get you revealed while a single character can be more stealthy.

There's nothing stealthy about marching a horde of 10 zombies around

[half current]

Desecrate tho

[sonic glen]

chris says that minions aren't an explicit downside

[half current]

Free corpses

[sharp iron]

oh

[deep wave]

ED league?

[half current]

league start ED is always okay

[hasty perch]

minions that require corpses to be summoned never die endgame

[half current]

^^^^

^^^^

Discord is acting up

[devout osprey]

imagine all the trades that wont happend because people are in heists

[hasty perch]

not on normal content at least

[sonic glen]

the stealth mechanics aren't that oppressive, and killing guards isn't a major hit to detection

[sharp iron]

Okay

[hasty perch]

phase run league 🤔

[sonic glen]

source: dev interview that's live right now

[half current]

It’s persona 5

But PoE

Easy clap

[sharp iron]

Where's the link to that interview?

[sonic glen]

https://www.twitch.tv/ziggydlive

[sharp iron]

Thanks

[bitter ledge]

Will you be able to sell the tokens for wisdom scrolls?

[deep wave]

LuL

[bitter ledge]

If so, that's my new speedrun strat

Because the tokens drop from monsters in regular areas, so it makes sense to be able to vendor them for wisdom scrolls.

[deep wave]

Rogue tier list by end of week 1?

[warm stream]

Token bums amassing in 820 global for token handout as we speak

[random bone]

how do they get me excited league after league? gah

im going to phase run past everything

[valid isle]

ED into bane is always a good league start, because the gear is super cheap and its always effective

and this time, curses are even betterer

[ashen cedar]

I think I already know the answer to this but...Does anyone know if you enable "No Vendoring" for a private league, would you be able to sell to the Heist vendor the Urn for the Heist Markers?

[deep wave]

You mean ED/Blight?

[valid isle]

No, convert later for Bane (the curse spell that deals chaos DoT)

[tender geyser]

so since the blazing salvo is overlapping with itself who else gonna be melting their pc's with bilion projectiles and using them with mines?

[hazy tulip]

so since the blazing salvo is overlapping with itself who else gonna be melting their pc's with bilion projectiles and using them with mines?
@tender geyser I opt in for pc melting

[random bone]

this seems bad lol

[bronze cave]

isnt that like absolute bad or am i misunderstanding?

[random bone]

looks god awful to me

[devout pivot]

hmm ... on the website it show a chest that is 5l with the bonus as all socket are link ... does it mean that i can get it to a 6 socket and it will be all link?

[random bone]

thats what it looks like

[devout osprey]

yes azn

[devout pivot]

kk thnx now i need to wait for patch note to see wat my league starter will be

[random bone]

900 alt quality gems, man im super stoked

so many snowflake builds incoming

[silver kettle]

some of them are pretty damn snowflakey ngl

[random bone]

i wanted to make a chaos flameblast during harvest...

this is either an insult or a blessing

[native sonnet]

alternate qual conversion trap seems op

[devout osprey]

essence drain that does phys dmg over time instead of chaos

[random bone]

phys over time? dude

cold archmage, yes!

[crisp tree]

cold ed contagion

[fervent elm]

How did u see alternate wual conversion trap

Have new ones been shown?

[valid isle]

@random bone there is probably exactly 1 build out there looking for that axe.

otherwise, yes, its extreme garbage lol

[random bone]

i cant even think of a build for that lol

[valid isle]

im not sure either

im sure one will pop up

probably the fault of Jousis

but i cant think of any atm

[hasty perch]

swap weapon with cyclone faster attacks to proc EO

[fallow veldt]

Play https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Supreme_Ostentation and don't care about the no intelligence

[random bone]

hmm

[fallow veldt]

Wait, 100% there is a repliqua of this weapon (actum) with no strength or dexterity

[devout osprey]

it require str and dex to use though

[fallow veldt]

Just for the meme

[valid isle]

id be curious about a weapon that makes itself impossible to equip, @fallow veldt xD

[random bone]

Blazing Salvo Chieftain for fiery fun 🙂

[covert path]

Hey did anything recieve a nerf?

[random bone]

dont think we'll know that til patch day

but i can't imagine enduring cry not getting a love tap of nerf

[lime ferry]

Blazing Salvo totems might be interesting I think

[loud pawn]

wait for manifesto, but people are betting on glancing blows

[random bone]

glancing blows for sure

[ocean narwhal]

Blazing salvo unleash

with fire wall

I hope elementalist or something gets a buff

[verbal crest]

reading through reddit, the amount of jaded hate with no information is mind boggling. People complaining about "stealth" in an ARPG when they have already said there is no actual stealth

[random bone]

That's reddit for ya

[silver kettle]

I was enjoying reading the response to the leaks

people complaining about betrayal 2.0 and wanting something more like delve when this is basically nothing like betrayal and everything like delve

[devout osprey]

so viper, what happends when we reach 100% alert level?

[loud pawn]

i honestly cannot contemplate how this is like delve right now

[devout osprey]

i didnt quite get that from the video or ziggyd

[verbal crest]

@devout osprey you have a set amount of time to get out of the heist area, from what I gather

[devout osprey]

ahh

that sounds right

[verbal crest]

the alarm system is literally only there so you cant loot everything and have to make choices based on the blueprint. Otherwise what is the point of the blueprint? It only goes up when you loot shit

[devout osprey]

im excited

[silver kettle]

uhhh I try to only answer this stuff in Bex quotes so it doesn't look like I'm providing new information

and I don't think she's said anything about that directly

[devout osprey]

sounds like nudepenguin is right, i remember vaugely something about that, was worried you were teleported outonce fully alerted

[verbal crest]

which part are you unsure of? @silver kettle

[half current]

are you asking Viper if he understands the game?

u sure?

[silver kettle]

oh I know the answer, I just don't want to answer anything that hasn't already been publicly answered elsewhere

because that's verrrry dangerous

[verbal crest]

which part though

[devout osprey]

about what happends when you hit 100% alert.

[autumn snow]

they become 100% alert

[verbal crest]

I said I was making an assumption, not saying what happens, I dont know for sure

I am basing that off of what they said in the videos

[devout osprey]

so they said it in the videos? can u get timestamp?

or doesnt matter

i can wait 16 days and some hours

[silver kettle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ikss6x/path_of_exile_heist_trailer_and_developer/g3nhqrm/?context=3 there you go

The escape isn't timed. Once the alarm goes off either through capping your alert level or automatically when you steal the Artifact, the timer gives you a short window to continue looting before you're swarmed by guards. Once the timer ends the facility is in lockdown which means no more looting from chests and you can no longer steal the Artifact. You have as much time as you want to escape, the pressure comes from the combat.

[verbal crest]

cool

[devout osprey]

oooh, even better

[lime jasper]

inb4 people using that to farm guards for exp

[spice cipher]

I hope it escalates as time goes by

[verbal crest]

something tells me they have already thought of that

[lime jasper]

somebody is going to make a stupidly powerful build to try overcome that if the guards give exp

[spice cipher]

I’m sure they have reduced something at that point tho , have to have an incentive to leave

[autumn snow]

they bring out the tanks

[spice cipher]

Maybe they get increasingly higher dmg reduction + less loot + less xp would be what I would do

[verbal crest]

has it even been confirmed there are endless waves? maybe its just a set number of guards that respond

[devout osprey]

we are just speculating

[loud pawn]

or maybe the guards just dont give xp past a certain point

seems like the reasonable solution

[lime jasper]

expect the initial implementation to be brutal

with guards quickly one-shotting you before being nerfed after people complain about it

[verbal crest]

my biggest question is the artifacts dont seem to give indicators as to what they are and they say in the grand heists, you have like 5 to choose from and only can pick one. If you cant tell the difference, what is the point of that choice?

maybe something that lets you steal 2 artifacts?

like extra keys in lab?

[spice cipher]

Or we figure out which is which and take the best ones? I’m sure there’s different rarities?

[autumn snow]

use the spreadsheet v15

[verbal crest]

oh

we all love spreadsheets

[lime pivot]

true

[loud pawn]

looks like the artifact boxes shows a name on mouseover?

[lime pivot]

yh it did in the video

[loud pawn]

so yeah wait for spreadsheet showing which ones are good

[verbal crest]

assuming the name is tied to the contents and not just a catch all name

[lime pivot]

its like the betrayal timed trials 2.0

[cunning blade]

but minion builds fuk u over instead

[cobalt falcon]

What is faster, dying back to town or go to portal

[cunning blade]

can see a zombie just running up to a guard to slap it and maxing the alert level

[lime jasper]

nah

[loud pawn]

dying back to town costs xp

why would you ever do that

[devout osprey]

dying you lose items

[lime pivot]

any spectre nerf is a good nerf :))

[loud pawn]

if you want to fast return to town, just log out

[cobalt falcon]

If only for league mech

[verbal crest]

thats not how the alarm system works they said

[echo shale]

bex said that killing doesn't increase the alert level by much

[lime jasper]

alarm system goes up mainly by looting, not by killing

[cobalt falcon]

Hoo logout sound nice

[verbal crest]

attacking doesnt raise the alarm

looting does

[autumn snow]

can't wait for reddit complains how they've lost x item

[loud pawn]

i believe killing enemies does raise the alarm but not very much

[lime pivot]

what were that strange icon next to all the drops in the video?

[autumn snow]

locked loot

[cobalt falcon]

Just like sampe drop

[silver kettle]

contraband icon presumably

[cunning blade]

o h

[loud pawn]

@autumn snow you think you cant wait? ive gotta moderate that shit

[cunning blade]

so killing everything doesn't raise alarm huh

interesting

so basically just loot everything before u go for the artifact

[silver kettle]

killing stuff does raise the alert level a bit

[autumn snow]

yes, I like mods to suffer

evil cake

[lime pivot]

sounds like a fun league hopefully the rewards are worth it

[lime jasper]

looting everything is exactly the thing you don't want to do if you want the artifact

given that lockdown prevents access to artifact

[cunning blade]

yea i mean bring the meter to like 90% and tap the artifact

[quick knoll]

at start of league, u might just want to loot eveyrthing and ignore artifact

[loud pawn]

artifact sells for rogue dollars

which you need to run more heists

[quick knoll]

to get more currency versus gaining more intel for grand heists

[autumn snow]

rogue dollars kek

[lime pivot]

call it robux and im in

[quick knoll]

u can get heist markers from mapping

[verbal crest]

something tells me that killing things along the way loses you like one chest worth of loot, I doubt they world make it to where it was largely detrimental to kill things

[loud pawn]

yeah but who knows whether the drop rate from killing things is good

[half current]

^^

[loud pawn]

for we know one map could be like 100 dollars and one relic is 500

i assume it will generally be efficient to grab the relic

[quick knoll]

relic gives u only heist currency, while loot chests gives you proper loot

[lime jasper]

if relics sell just for dollars might be worthless actually, come to think of it

[verbal crest]

I hope there is a chase unique in the league that is like gloves that let you lockpick instantly without the need of a companion

[lime jasper]

since you can just buy them off other people?

in trade league that is

[cunning blade]

means u can also sell them

[quick knoll]

they said they wanted almost everything tradable this league, so yes

[cunning blade]

hows that worthless

[loud pawn]

well somebody needs to farm rogue dollars

if everyone farms loot then nobody can actually run heists

[lime jasper]

depends on how juiced up the loot chests can be

[autumn snow]

everyone is forgetting about talisman v2 with special slots

[loud pawn]

the effects seem mostly heist specific so its not as big of a deal

[autumn snow]

like... breach!

[verbal crest]

the leak said something about not being part of the game until after act 10, did we get any word on if that is true or not?

[loud pawn]

no it looks like its very much available during acts

would be insane to release a league mechanic gated to maps

[cunning blade]

u aren't exactly part of the game till ur done with acts anyway

[autumn snow]

it's definitely available at acts

[cunning blade]

[loud pawn]

@autumn snow like breach, except breach rings at least function outside breaches

[autumn snow]

they've always wanted players to interact with the new league at acts

[bitter ledge]

I really think that people are going to sell this for like 100 exalts.

[lime jasper]

i expect the equip to be restricted to the league panel after 3.12

[loud pawn]

considering the drop rate of regals the regal to exalt one is not god tier

still good but not game breaking

[autumn snow]

regals are really rare, y

[bitter ledge]

Yeah, but this is with a 36% roll instead of a 5% roll

[devout osprey]

id keep this trinket

[bitter ledge]

I wonder if that goes up to 50%. That might sell for 100 ex 😛

[loud pawn]

i mean id hella use the trinket but how often do you get regals in the first place

[tender geyser]

it all depends on the rolls, my guess it will be like watcher's eyes

like most gonna be meh at best

some gonna be trash

and there's gonna be 200 ex ones

[bitter ledge]

most are gonna be trash

[tender geyser]

ok

you are right

[loud pawn]

i mean they are all fundamentally "get more loot"

[lime jasper]

FIVE FOR ONE, BUT WHAT IS THE ONE

[tender geyser]

I stand corrected

[loud pawn]

so there wont be bad ones, just less good ones

[tender geyser]

yeah probably

[bitter ledge]

Yeah, it's not like they are bad. In the worst case they are just 'not good'

[tender geyser]

you don't lose anything by wearing one, so you just get what you can and upgrade

[bitter ledge]

Opportunity cost though

[verbal crest]

need one that is like

36% chance for regal orbs to be replaced with exalted obs in heists
34% chance for orbs of alteration to be replaced with regal orbs in heists
31% chance for orbs of transmutation to be replaced with orbs of alteration in heists
40% chance for scrolls of wisdom to be replaced with orbs of transmutation in heists

[lime jasper]

assuming it works like conversion and not damage taken as

[loud pawn]

yeah im thinking it might not chain convert

[bitter ledge]

Yeah, probably doesn't chain

Although, wisdoms to transmutations seems quite decent

[tender geyser]

@bitter ledge sure, but that sounds like min-maxing issue more than anything, you probably won't get super crazy ones unless you drop them or buy them for ridiculous prices at which point you kinda made your money already and can only get richer

[hasty perch]

meh

[bronze cave]

It looks like this league will be a lot of smaller space indoor content

[tender geyser]

spark?

do I hear spark

[bronze cave]

bv looking kinda cool here

[tender geyser]

I heard spark

did someone say spark

[bitter ledge]

I think that people are going to swap out trinkets depending on the type of heist

[tender geyser]

haha jk spark is still trash

[bronze cave]

I guess you really want a character that runs fast and not one that spams a movement skill

[tender geyser]

@bitter ledge that would be resonable, but can you actually see what type of rewards do you get in the smaller heists?

[bitter ledge]

Like, you'll equip a 'chance for double rewards from chests' before opening a chest, 'chance for X to be replaced by Y' when going through the Heist, 'increased drop rate from monsters' when not in a Heist.

[tender geyser]

@bronze cave poison pathfinder bv?

[bronze cave]

yeah sounds cool

[lavish bane]

So what are the chances that all the alternative quality for gems is going to be something we can start building against prior to league start?

[bitter ledge]

Don't count on the alternative gems at league start

[lavish bane]

I'm trying to find on the wiki where I can view alternative quality for gems, my POB is crying for maths

[bitter ledge]

It's probably going to be on PoEDB

[tender geyser]

yep

they gonna release like a list and poedb will have it there for sure

[bronze cave]

yeah but only when the patch is there

If they dont release a list early

[lavish bane]

@bitter ledge why wouldn't alternative quality gems not be available at league start, its part of the league release..

[tender geyser]

he meant

like dont count on them

[silver kettle]

nonzero chance of releasing a list early

[tender geyser]

cuz we dont know rarity of them appearing so you might build around something that is gonna be really expensive

[bitter ledge]

Yeah, don't plan a league starter around the alternative gems

[tender geyser]

and that means reaaaalllyy bad elague start

[lavish bane]

@bitter ledgeyeah no, I'm not suggesting anyone build a league starter around those gems, those gems are end game items.. you'll probably only get good ones from Grand Heist..

[devout pivot]

so 900+ gems to go thru ....

[lavish bane]

@bitter ledge I'm simply saying I'm looking to start doing maths around them vs awaken gems, for example, because I'm a POB nerd

[bitter ledge]

I guess that you might get the gems as random drops starting at act 2

[tender geyser]

don't worry somebody is gonna figure out another one of those herald or immortal pathfinder zephyr flask builds this league as well and you can save your money for 2 months to play it at the end of the league

[lavish bane]

@devout pivot exactly, if we start now by league start we will have read every gem once and understood like maybe 1 of them correctly

[devout pivot]

its hard to start theory crafting when we dont know wat each alt for each gem do ....

[tender geyser]

they don't seem that complicated tho

[verbal crest]

the most disappointing part of all of this is no cat with a bowtie FeelsBadMan

[bitter ledge]

GCPs are level 12 or higher, so it doesn't make sense for alternative gems to drop before GCPs are available

[loud pawn]

apparently they are working on better highlighting for the alt quality mods

should make it a lot easier to go through the list

@verbal crest wdym the cat is in the trailer

on the table

[lavish bane]

@devout pivot right, that's my point, I'm asking if they posted the details of the alternative quality yet, or if they will for exactly that reason.

[verbal crest]

really? ill have to go back and look

[tender geyser]

they literally released the info about league today

they won't post full details about everything on the same day

but gradually leek information

leak*

[lavish bane]

@tender geyser there have been almost 10 whole seconds since the announcement, cmon already whats taking so long?!?

[devout pivot]

lol do u think they will post all 900+ gem on patch not day or gem lvl20/20 quality day

[bitter ledge]

It's probably going to be in the item filter information

[tender geyser]

patchnotes are like 2 days before release, as viper said it might be possible they release the gem information earlier but it will be probably in the same week as the league starts

[lavish bane]

Honestly, they probably just need to reupdate the quality for each gem, they dont need new pages, just show the two different quality options for every gem on each page

they clearly have it built out already, its just a matter of pushing some html to the wiki

[tawny ravine]

So... are we reworking Profane Bloom now that we have Impending Doom Sup?

[marsh oracle]

punishment curse O_O

looks BROKEN!!!1

[lavish bane]

I was planning on going occultist anyway so I guess it works out

[tender geyser]

@tawny ravine occultist rework Pog

[marsh oracle]

occultist rework where

persona 5 poe league

[tawny ravine]

You'll never see it comiiiiiin

[tender geyser]

I mean what endgame said

[marsh oracle]

^

[tender geyser]

profane bloom is on a gem now so occu needs to get something more

and if that's gonna be just some curse effectivness or something Im gonna be sad

[marsh oracle]

real?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!??!?!!?!!?!

[tender geyser]

the impending doom support

is literally profane bloom

[marsh oracle]

Poggerz

[lime pivot]

its better since its not a chance

and it doesnt have to kill just needs to expire

or have u apply another curse

[lavish bane]

@tender geyser look on the bright side, you won't need to craft explodey chest for Heist league

[timid geyser]

Replica Idea: Shaper Touch but stats are reversed

[tawny ravine]

That doesn't sound possibly broken at all

[loud pawn]

1% reduced Energy Shield per 10 Strength
2% reduced Evasion Rating per 10 Intelligence
2% reduced Melee Physical Damage per 10 Dexterity
wow sounds nice

[timid geyser]

i.e dex gives es+mana/int gives life+melee phys

[lavish bane]

on the flip side, if they don't buff the shit out of occultist, impending doom makes playing occultist less needed, and if they do buff occultist it might be too OP if stacking impending doom or curse/hex dancing to trigger both..

[tender geyser]

maybe they are gonna do some gimmicky stuff

like they did with totem old guy

umm

hiero

[marsh oracle]

WAIT U can get a mirror in a heist and then lose it if u fail the heist

cant wait to see that on REDDIT

[lavish bane]

You heard it here first, I call this Curse League

[loud pawn]

just dont die 4head

[lime pivot]

i miss melting my pc with old elementalist

[tender geyser]

so he does the arcane surge things, so occultist maybe will have something with the Doom mechanic that they are introducing

like faster charges

[rigid edge]

we'll be announcing our next expansion just the next day.

[tender geyser]

or something like that

[loud pawn]

i would like replica hh that steals magic mods to minions

[sinful flare]

Haven't played the game in a while, new league seems interesting

[lavish bane]

there's like 100 replicas, we've seen 2-3 so far, thats it

[sinful flare]

I think that's the last 1 for PoE 3.X?

[devout pivot]

high movement speed and strong cloe combat should be for this league

[tawny ravine]

So replica Saviour that makes copies of enemies

[loud pawn]

isnt 4.0 release pushed to end of next year?

[tawny ravine]

...Actually that sounds decent

[tender geyser]

as I said, pathfinder bv poison

[sinful flare]

@loud pawn Really? Damn that's not good 😩

[devout pivot]

may go for fb serk ...

[loud pawn]

i know its been delayed because corona but i forget how much

[lavish bane]

@loud pawn the closed beta was supposed to happen the end of this year

[tawny ravine]

They just said not this year as far as I remember hearing

End of next year sounds about right then

[lavish bane]

@loud pawn 4.0 release date was always 2021 from what I've always heard

[loud pawn]

[marsh oracle]

wait is the quality for CoC gem 20% -> 39% more damage

thats HUGE !!!! WTF

[loud pawn]

quality on coc is crit chance wtf are you talking about

level is 20-39% more damage

[marsh oracle]

ohh

the page compared lv 1 and lv 20

xD

[loud pawn]

lmao

[marsh oracle]

ALTERNATE HATRED

WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO?

[loud pawn]

cold dot maybe

[lavish bane]

I mean, personally I think all they did was scramble everything so we can't get ahead of all the build redesigns and by the time we do 4.0 will be released and we have to do it all over again

[marsh oracle]

hopefully non-dmg ailment effect

[lavish bane]

I am debating if secretly GGG doesn't sleep, and Chris Wilson is actually Skynet plotting 24/7, how else could they make this much content when Blizzard can't even make a mobile game??

[marsh oracle]

"all sockets linked" EASYYYYYYY 6 LINK

[cunning blade]

maybe "no sockets linked" is also a thing

[loud pawn]

that instantly bricks bodies and 2h weapons

[cunning blade]

[marsh oracle]

"no sockets"
"+500 hp"

[cunning blade]

pog kaoms

[loud pawn]

"koam's heart"

[cunning blade]

replica kaoms comes with 1 socket and "all sockets linked"

[tawny ravine]

Then we find out it comes with "Grants Level 20 Sunder" or something

[loud pawn]

replica kaoms that gives 1000 es

actually what would be an absurd value of flat es? 1200? 1500?

[cunning blade]

well

considering normal life is like about ~150 at best on a piece

maybe 1.5k es

[loud pawn]

would be wild for sure

[cunning blade]

cuz u can get like 800 es on an armor piece

gotta make up for lack of sockets and res

so 2k

[loud pawn]

well 500 is a little over 3x150

so 3x800 plus a bit is 2500 es

seems balanced

[cunning blade]

[tawny ravine]

Make occultist great again?

[cunning blade]

its much easier to hit 150 life than 800 es tho

lmao never

imagine self casting in 2020

im not sure if dying counts as the curse expiring

[hollow osprey]

So uhh more Alert the better right

[cunning blade]

if it does new support might be sorta nice

no

max alert = bad cuz no looting

[hollow osprey]

Hmmm

I thought it would have been really nice

If this works like in Payday

[tawny ravine]

Zig said "by monster death or otherwise" so I assume yes dying counts

[hollow osprey]

More alert means more guards and finally tanky bois

[marsh oracle]

I can't wait to see ALL OF THE GEMS

I'm gonna POG

[tawny ravine]

I wonder if guards loot themselves so we need to get out AND also kill them as much as possible

Or just spider+chain them and get out

[cunning blade]

i wonder if they drop loot and spawn endlessly

owo

[paper surge]

Man, I'm so happy with today. Not only does it look like a killer league, the reception on my div card has been overwhelming positive!

People are also finding the little secrets in the card's art 😄

[devout osprey]

the card text had 13 words too

[paper surge]

Correct!

[high scaffold]

does chris interview make it clearer on the league mechanic?

cuz i still have no idea how it work after ziggyd video

[devout osprey]

which part

[high scaffold]

what do u do during maps

[devout osprey]

you kill everything as normal and might get those blueprints

like a map for heist

[swift pagoda]

heists are alternate maps

[high scaffold]

hmm... so just like seed drops or incursion

[swift pagoda]

Delve 2.0 as Bex said

[timid geyser]

They drop from any monster.

[devout osprey]

like a map, but its a blueprint instead

and it can drop from act 1

or when you first meet them

[swift pagoda]

Prob from mud flats

[high scaffold]

[hasty perch]

seems like you can stock them up then run them when you want

from what i read on reddit

which is very nice

i'm not a big fan of stopping every map

[timid geyser]

Yup, contracts are dropable/tradeable items

[swift pagoda]

Stock up a quad tab then go rob people

[timid geyser]

Like sulphite but the cap is your stash tabs

[high scaffold]

rhykker made a video with a little clearer mechanic explanation

cant wait for reddit to complain speed league again

[marsh oracle]

poe: "this is maps but better"
reddit: "BO-ring"

[slender temple]

I have a prediction
Focusing on one of the AI henchmen and leveling the up for door opening speed will be the meta . Unless we have to use diff ones for diff doors then idk

[high scaffold]

definitely gonna have 1 "meta" dude that work with everything

or a group of dudes that cover each other well

[hasty perch]

that tab affinity thing looks cool also

but we all know that the first few weeks of it's implementation is going to be "help i autosorted my exalt in my stash tab now i can't get it out of my fossil tab"

[marsh oracle]

tab affinity coming out?

[devout osprey]

thats their plan, chris said so in his interview

[half current]

wait

tab affinity?

what's that

[devout osprey]

like if you ctrl + essence it goes to essence tab

nothing to go to essence tab manually

[swift pagoda]

I want a stash all button with that

[half current]

how will that work with rare items?

[devout osprey]

i bet it doesnt but we will see

[swift pagoda]

First available regular tab i'd presume

but it probably won't

[hasty perch]

might just drop rare items in the first normal tab avaible

tbh

[normal kraken]

I'm glad they got rhykker involved

dude's smart and professional

[hollow osprey]

You know they could remove the Alert system and just spawns more guards

That would make the League 10 times better

I mean, removing the probablity to loose the items and just boosting up the amounts of mobs tenfold

You won't loose the benefit of having low Alert BUT you also don't really loose much if the Alert happens, unless you died of course.

[tawny ravine]

Random question

If a projectile somehow passes Flame Wall more than once(Chain, return, etc) will it get buffed every time?

[native sonnet]

no1 knows, gotta wait for gem info or if mark answer on reddit

[hasty perch]

inb4 it does and people cheese with vaal spectral throw

[native sonnet]

also curious if multiple wall stacks

[violet nymph]

oh no, spectral throw becoming actually good, what ever shall we do lol

[harsh crater]

i like the part where you can go slowly and sneak if you want

[violet nymph]

i agree

i wonder if phase run will help lol

[harsh crater]

i hope it makes you get a few more chests somehow

yeah it will be fun to experiment, even if still better to smash and grab

[violet nymph]

the less enemies you kill the more chests you can open

[harsh crater]

yeah Bex said it is still heavily weighted to opening chests not killing, but maybe we can get a few more 😄

[violet nymph]

it's confirmed that killing enemies causes alert bar to go up, and so does opening chests

so if you wanted to just get chests, you could

[harsh crater]

even 20-30% more chests could be a big deal, yeah

either way im pretty hyped. wont be hard to manage it when you want to do it

quickly check the gear/whatnot, make a few grand plans, rock em, go back to mapping for a few hours

[violet nymph]

i love the heist blueprint shit

people were terrified it was like a new betrayal

[high scaffold]

imagine playing minion build and those minions just trigger those alert asap

[violet nymph]

but now we know it's just a "build your own map" system

[harsh crater]

"people" = reddit keyboard warriors?

[violet nymph]

reddit, twitter, youtube, etc

[harsh crater]

all i saw was mathil making fun of the comments, yeah ppl complain and then play it anyway. I just stay positive, excited, and play no matter what

[half current]

some people here complained about it

[harsh crater]

good feedback once we know how it works has value, that reddit thread (other than the good questions / Bex answers) was pretty meh

pretty sure ill go trade league this time, seems pretty good for group play and trading blueprint stuff

[spring walrus]

"If you party member dies in the Heist, you'll be able to pick up the loot they stole. Also if you make it and they don't your Heist will still count as a success while they will have failed." clarification from Bex

[harsh crater]

confirmed: stay alive, kill party members, get all the loot, have ... no friends..?

bad jokes aside: good to know you can recover the loot allies drop if they die

Think one of the teasers will be ALL the gem quality changes, or we'll have to wait for the poedb data harvest from torrent (or however they get it asap)

[small socket]

Lol looks like boring league forcing players to be stealthy etc

[toxic vault]

yeah confirmed skip league for sure

[atomic pendant]

Was really looking for a league like Legion.. I hate entering other map in a map

making the core game harder is alway better for me.. I alway skip content that require to enter another map

I would prefer a beyond v2 lol

[small socket]

I'll just play GTA V if i want to do some Heist imo, had enough of traps dungeons and alarms, labs was boring already and now this

[elder radish]

WTF? like play with other people? not just trading? mmmm seems strange

[weary crater]

def a league where it's going to be more worth to skip it and make more exalts/hr doing other shit and just buy the good stuff off kids running it

[hasty perch]

didn't bex say heists were stuff you open from outside maps tho

and you drop the "keys" to start heists in map

like you do with sulphite

so no maps in maps stuff slowing you down

[weary crater]

stopping mapping to do a heist

[only if you're economically focused:] kinda in the same vein as delving being mostly a waste of time unless you're super serious about farming it.

[sonic glen]

do the alt quality gems only drop in heists?

[crisp tree]

yes

[sonic glen]

hm...wonder if that makes the low-level heists worth running, to try to get build-defining alt gems

[smoky badge]

I wonder how visibility works with heist
what if someone only moved during cat's stealth + phase run?

[abstract pike]

So this looks like a non aoe/minion league?

Cyclone and bv look like they might rule this league

[rose pasture]

So 300+ MS meta incoming?
With permaphasing?

[sonic glen]

minions are fine, chris said that explicitly

monster kills in the heists are expected

it isn't metal gear solid

[abstract pike]

so the minions wont accidentally set off the alarms?

[sonic glen]

they'll attack patrolling monsters, yes, and killing the patrolling monsters increases alarm level

but much, much less than doing things like opening chests, it's very low and they expect some playstyles to kill all the monsters in their path

[rose pasture]

So you will not get away in the getaway stage.

Lockdown

[sonic glen]

not significantly different, no

it's the chests that are the primary driver of alarm level

[rose pasture]

Hm!

[sonic glen]

he called out minion builds specifically

they designed it so that minions work

they're a bit more loud than some alternative builds, but they're not writing them out of the game with the mechanic

[sour mountain]

good reason to be kinda judicious with Meat Shield/Feeding Frenzy/Deathmark, too

they could probably fix it by saying "minions are Defensive until you start a fight"

[sonic glen]

honestly I expect the "correct" Heist will be a real smash and grab

that the extra time it takes to be quiet and cautious will be overwhelmed by quantity of runs

until the grand heist, maybe

but I expect the streamers and such will just blitz through the normal ones

[sour mountain]

speedrunners will ignore heists until yellow/red maps

i swear on me mum

[sonic glen]

well, yeah

[abstract pike]

im thinking more of cyclone and BV being the kings of this league

[sonic glen]

that goes without saying

[sour mountain]

i wonder if finishing a heist will give you a slab of XP

[sonic glen]

howso?

[sour mountain]

that's my biggest concern atm

[sonic glen]

oh that's a good question, wish they'd asked

[sour mountain]

i think BLACK HOLE SUN will actually be a really powerful skill

[sonic glen]

I would like to see XP rewards for content

[sour mountain]

making a Syndicate decision awards you a slab of XP so i think they have the tech for it

just make it give you a slab of XP for escaping the heist alive

[sonic glen]

like there was that one five-boss-no-mobs map that gave a lot of xp, that was fun

[abstract pike]

cause if ur wanting to just kill shit ur gonna raise the alarm by just running in and killing everything

[sour mountain]

there are a lot of those lol

Halloween map i think you mean tho?

[sonic glen]

yeah that one

things that aren't "how quickly can you annihilate a screen of mobs" is appealing to me

[sour mountain]

i just hope the Heist mechanics are fun

having the contracts be maps is really good for flow of play

fixes the Incursion 'do this for 11 maps! now do this temple or you're inefficient!' problem

[sonic glen]

and having them not being IN maps is really good for flow of play

[sour mountain]

im really feeling the "there are too many things to try to stay on top of" though
you need to play the game fulltime if you want to do well in Delve, xyz, xyz... you can't just turn off a mechanic and focus on mastering one of them

[sonic glen]

because you can take your time to run the heist and not worry about screwing up your map

[sour mountain]

it's really good that Harvest is getting the Synthesis treatment

having the heist in the map would play cross-purposes to mechanics like Beyond and Delirium too

[sonic glen]

for someone who didn't play synthesis, explain please

[sour mountain]

synthesis is a really complicated system to try to interact with on a semi-optimal level

[sonic glen]

yeah I don't see how harvest could ever work without a cache in every map

as it is, I thought it just didn't have enough seeds

[sour mountain]

harvest could work if they gutted it and turned it into

"oshabi shows up in maps, she has a single garden with random seeds"

[sonic glen]

"fossils 2.0"

[sour mountain]

ambush 2.0 more like

except instead of just loot, it gives you a bunch of crafting options

[sonic glen]

I will miss the targeted crafting

[sour mountain]

if the mod targeting in heist is good, itll be fine i think

[sonic glen]

particularly for a relative newbie (this was my first league doing maps to any significance) it was nice to be able to get specific types of gear

well, what I'm hoping for is "oh, they're keeping all the Energy Shield modded armors over here, go get 'em!"

[sour mountain]

as i understand, the new enchants are mod targeting enchants

so you'll just find an armor piece that says "+6% to ES" or whatever and then roll it, and you have a huge weight to get ES mods

[sonic glen]

wait those mods change the rolls?

[native sonnet]

hipster, u got a source on that?

[sour mountain]

i believe they do, but i have barely looked at anything to do with it

[sonic glen]

they did say that the mods on the armor would be "as if crafted"

[sour mountain]

i just recall something in Ziggy's league description saying that they'll either have higher weights or they spawn with weighted mods

[sonic glen]

meaning the people you're heisting from are trying to make items with specific mods

not merely "good rolls" but specifically pseudo-crafted

like, chest with life and resists

[sour mountain]

that'll make SSF happy

really really happy

to just be able to say 'right i'm playing a weapon skill, i can just go grab one and expect a decent one'

which was one of the better parts of harvest, since they reworked slams
you just wanna slam someone? plant purple seeds for +phys, spam it on your highest ilvl hammer and you'll get something workable

[cunning veldt]

https://www.pcinvasion.com/path-of-exile-heist-preview-uniques-skills-grand-heist/

[inland summit]

so higher lv heists guarantee better ilv's and mods on gear? or is a particular mod crafted onto the heist, or a particular trinket equipped?

[green grotto]

contracts have an area level like maps

https://youtu.be/AcvHXf7Mo9Q?t=113

@inland summit

[inland summit]

ty

[rose pasture]

well, who sain there is no timers?
huh, get this!

[cunning blade]

[green grotto]

i feel like phasing is gunna be real handy this league

[violet nymph]

that timer is the amount of time you have before you can stop looting items i believe, after you set off the alarm

or something

once the timer is over you get swarmed with enemies

nothing more

it's not a "cancel the league mechanic" timer

this isn't a clearspeed league

i'd argue it's the opposite if you feel like being sneaky

if you wanna just farm artifacts for instance

[velvet palm]

just remember, being sneaky is purely a roleplay thing

you do NOT need to be sneaky

that's what our boi Chris said at least

[rich pagoda]

Are there rewards for being a sneaky boi?

[violet nymph]

killing enemies raises the alert level basically

[velvet palm]

pretty sure nope

[violet nymph]

so getting forces into a fight means you're forced to gain that much alert level

so basically if you want to open a ton of chests, getting forced into a fight might make you have to skip a chest, which you might not want

that's basically as far as it goes depth-wise

[cobalt falcon]

I bet there is some achivment for that at least

But not affect the reward as always

[rose pasture]

Nah, timer is for lockdown, where you loose loot on 00:00

[violet nymph]

what

you don't lose loot until you die

"Capping your alert level triggers the alarm which then gives you a brief window to grab as much loot as you can before the facility goes into lockdown. Once it's in lockdown, you can no longer steal items and you'll be swarmed by guards but you can still escape if you can get past the guards. If you don't escape, you'll die and drop your rewards." literally from bex

[cobalt falcon]

Lockdown things is item still on vault if i remember correctly

[rose pasture]

You need to get alive yes, but within timer too.

[violet nymph]

no

read what bex posted

[rose pasture]

Its all stay in vault

[cobalt falcon]

Vault is the final area only right

The room with artefak

[violet nymph]

you literally only lose items when you die

[wild arch]

What's the max quality you can squeeze into a gem

Pure chaos flameblast is pretty much exactly what I've always wanted but I'm not sure if using 2 consuming dark for it is a good idea