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wise pilot
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just tested, cus no guts no glory, it can remove prefix and replace with suffix

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too easy

violet nymph
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i really ought to craft some boots

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it's so god damn easy

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you could just annul every mod on some rare hunter boots and just do life, speed, crit, and cold/lightning

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and remove/add until perfect

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well, don't do life until you've filled the suffixes of course

wise pilot
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If I remove/add a crafted resist, can the new one wind up t1?

violet nymph
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yes, i think

native sonnet
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yes

wise pilot
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Thanks

celest atlas
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but also t6

frigid venture
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anyone here experienced in blisterfruit farming?

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I need to know whether or not I should use fortune blossom if i wanna maximize the number of "remove & add new influence mod" crafts... it seems that using the fortune flower will give me more remove-only and augment-only crafts, but doesn't seem to affect the spawn rate of the remove&add... which exactly is rarer? Am I actually reducing my number of "remove&add" by using a fortune blossom?

left onyx
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Remove+add is, afaik, the common one. Think of it as a targetted chaos, whilst the others are targetted anulls/exalts seperatly so should be more rare (?)

frigid venture
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coz I got this shield and I need to change the Energy Shield block to Reduced Mana Reservation.

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Using a remove-only and then using an augment-only would be 2 seeds' worth of crafting, while using a "remove&add" would only be 1 seed. Would it be wise to maximize my "remove&add" by not using a fortune blossom?

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coz if it's an augment-only/remove-only, i'd be better off using it somewhere else... right?

frigid venture
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does anyone have any experience in this department? lol

wise pilot
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I'd use a blossom. Remove and add is rarer than chaos or alc.

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And it's no huge loss if you get a bunch of adds

frigid venture
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hmm... yeah. i'm worried that i'll only get "reforge" options if i don't use blossoms

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i'm trying to optimize so that I can get the mana reservation mod with fewer seeds, and reserve my "augment" and "remove" on other crafting projects :x

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i'm also considering deleting one of the resistances, slapping on "prefixes can't be changed" and then use a "remove a random defence mod" so that i don't have to splurge on a "remove influence mod"

stone knot
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i just had a add random influence to normal/magic/rare weapon, what weapon should i roll influence too?

frigid venture
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i'd roll it on an ilvl86 fleshripper or maybe an imbued wand/thicket bow

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i feel that weapon influence is the least valuable of the 3 blisterlord crafts

frigid venture
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has anyone tried to abuse the fracture craft by making items with 2 essence mods?

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lol

autumn snow
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@frigid venture people have been doing that since release lol

frigid venture
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what overpowered essence mod combinations are there anyway

autumn snow
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well, the problem with fracture is that you can't use influence

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so...

supple peak
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Is it possible to buy horticulture crafts? I really don't like the farming mechanic

copper kernel
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not directly

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you have to give your item to the person who has the craft

supple peak
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Hmmm. That seems a bit sketch.

copper kernel
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it is

supple peak
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Why are the stations not tradable?

copper kernel
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because theyre not intended to be

supple peak
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@vivid notch

copper kernel
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dont ping ggg

supple peak
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haha

wise pilot
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If the crafts were easily tradable, itd make an already busted mechanic absolute insanity.

supple peak
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Yeah, I understand. I am just trying to craft some tailwind boots and its so much easier with harvest.

copper kernel
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most of the traffic in #trading is seed crafting

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and the TFT discord

wise pilot
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The mechanic isnt difficult or even time consuming once you set up your gardens

supple peak
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Yeah I may just take the time. Thanks for answering my questions guys.

winged vigil
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I'm trying to get some alva missions with the atlas mission seed, has anyone done these seeds before and know how common alva is compared to other masters?

haughty jay
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if i remove a mod with a harvest craft I can add a new mod with another craft even if it is enchanted with a chrafting bench echant right?

devout osprey
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yes @haughty jay

frail flicker
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is there a good garden layout for casual player? and how could i get more lifeforce. its empty all time.

past badger
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Plant more seeds to get more lifeforce

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T2+ seeds yield much higher lifeforce

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There are prolly 2 million garden layouts floating around. Check reddit/google for which one fits you

jaunty wadi
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Hey anyone knows approximately when harvest is gonna end?

red wharf
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does anyone know which attack is the one that t4 yellow boss (cat thing) does when it makes a vine circle, after which closing spikes errupt? It does a shitton damage to me and I die sometimes to that (mostly I notice it too late because of visual clusterfuck) https://poedb.tw/us/Namharim%2C_Born_of_Night

autumn snow
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@jaunty wadi about one month and some days

red wharf
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so far I know I failed with preemptive heal flask spamming, forgot it eats charges even with full hp

barren crescent
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You got hit 2 times and poison dotted you dead

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idk what exactly hit you, but there are 2 chunks

red wharf
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hmm

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I have 90% chaos res, would be funny if it was actually poison instagibbing me

ruby inlet
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I see a lightning attack

barren crescent
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There are also those explosions on the ground

red wharf
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you mean zaps? That's my tempest shield skill, it zaps enemies when blocks

barren crescent
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each doing 1-2k

red wharf
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I see one spike

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or rather, cluster?

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well, I'm not sure what I could do in this situation

barren crescent
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run away

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earlier

red wharf
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how do you time running away?

barren crescent
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I personally think the grounding where you can't use movement skills is the deadliest attack of the bosses

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makes you too vulnerable

red wharf
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that movement skill block is fully covered by circle the boss does, isn't it?

barren crescent
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yep

red wharf
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I wonder if kaom root would prevent that slowdown?

barren crescent
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idk was that the reason for your death necessarily, but certainly would help to be able to use a dodge skill

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it should down to 0%

red wharf
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I also noticed there are 2 circles, which threw me off

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normally there's one circle left by boss

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2nd circle, bigger, appears like 1-2s after boss circles around

barren crescent
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Yeah idk does the boss create circle of death

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its certainly tied somehow to that circle and unable to use movement skills

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you can see multiple green pops in the circle

red wharf
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hm, yeah, I wonder if it's doable to walk around them while trying to leave this circle of death

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a lot of time when I'm near the edge of circle, I'm hoping I'll be out in time, only to get blasted 😛

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I'm thinking that biggest part of that boss dmg is phys, if it was chaos, my 90% res probably would mitigate it a lot, but I have 24% phys red, that would be probably weakness in case phys is major part of yellow boss attacks

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in any case, thanks, I need to pay attention to healing flask timing, not sure how to start running away earlier, I usually react when I see a circle forming or I'm moving very slow

barren crescent
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Does this boss really drain your flask charges?

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I'm playing PF so I always have Quicksilver available to zoom out

red wharf
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No, it was just my preemptive flask spamming to outheal burst dmg those spikes do

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but I wasn't aware it eats charges even while being full hp (probably bleeding flask mod does that)

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so next time I gotta to start spamming flask when spikes are about to pop

barren crescent
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I can't tell if the boss is doing anything to your flasks or not

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all but life flask are empty at start of gif

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then it seems you spam it down in 1-2s

red wharf
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yeah, fight was taking time before clip, so ran out of charges myself

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yeah, panic spamming 😄

barren crescent
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what life flask you got?

red wharf
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seething divine flask of staunching

barren crescent
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Try Bubbling as prefix

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if that feels better

red wharf
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basically less instant heal + some regen?

barren crescent
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I've found Catalyzed (50% inc recovery rate) to be really potent with chars that have flask effectiveness

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yeah

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at least I don't find myself in situations where spamming the insta flask would change the outcome

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vs panic reaction + run the fuck out while having slightly higher total healing from single flask press

red wharf
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i just checked map mods and one mod caught my attention

barren crescent
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turbo?

red wharf
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31% less aoe for both players and monsters

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I wonder if less aoe = faster circle closing

barren crescent
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it could be fixed rotation speed

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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near impossible for players to tell

red wharf
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whole list, but I don't see anything affecting seed boss that much really, it doesn't do fire dmg

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yeah, just poe stuff, but I try to understand from clips as much as possible and improve

barren crescent
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Chain 2 times can be spoopy

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I've never figured if it makes some skills "repeat"

red wharf
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no golem/summon with me, so shouldn't be problem?

barren crescent
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at least some monsters feel extra scary with chain mod even without any summones

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idk

red wharf
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interesting

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when do you start running away from that circle? Does it give you sound clue, or?

barren crescent
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I could be spewing total bs right there, but just how I've perceived. Love if someone can debunk it

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I usually notice the vines first

red wharf
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first time I noticed on clip that this boss spawns some sort of giant flower bulb in middle?

barren crescent
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the "flicker" has sound cue

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That kind of spawn + making a clearly indicated zone certainly sounds like arena wipe™

red wharf
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copyrighted by chris wilson from ggg

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"killing players is fun"

barren crescent
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Like what would it otherwise do? Just unable to use movement skills templarLul lemme just stand here

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5.5k life bar goes 📈

compact junco
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i like bubbling over cataclysed on PF as you get both buffed instant as panic button and buffed over time recovery

red wharf
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dang yo

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but I bet poe is sometimes to you "nice, but dead from oneshots won't heal hahaha brrr"

barren crescent
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Yeah happens, but I build my chars fairly tanky. I'm too slow to pull of mathil survival

red wharf
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77% allres, 90% chaos res, 75/74% glancing blows block, still dying sometimes, rip

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28k ehp on phys dmg, still that boss two taps me or so

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can't be helped I guess, that game is very spiky

barren crescent
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You got heal on block?

red wharf
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no, just bone offering

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600hp on block iirc

barren crescent
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Yeah that should put your char to be tanky

red wharf
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it's, first time I reached 98lvl

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but sometimes I just get dumpstered haha

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mostly to my misplays though, these can be improved easier than those weird rips from odd game numbers/mechanics that are sometimes hard to figure out from clips

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i have lightning leech too

barren crescent
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I can't tell were you too slow or was the boss just oddly fast, but standing in Death circle™ certainly doesn't sound like a play you should make on any char

red wharf
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well yeah, there's some lag before I react to seeing boss circle

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I really wish grove had treatment on t4 bosses like oshabi

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remove all that visual junk for fight

hard totem
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anybody else getting just an obscene amount of time limited zana missions after the patch? or was that always the case and i just didnt notice. like, im getting 1 non time limited mission per batch, and there is usually at least 7 maps to choose from

red wharf
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yeah, I have the same, my guildmates too. Seems only unique and guardian maps aren't timed events @hard totem

hard totem
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the major problem i could see from this is that since guardian maps cant roll time limited, all the other options are pushing them out, making them more rare(havent seen a guardian mission since the patch). collecting video evidence right now by running a bunch of mission to report it later

red wharf
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I have had bazillions of guardian maps since patch, no changes for me

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like every 1-2 zanas, I get option to select guardian

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but I have 150+150 map completions thuogh

hard totem
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side note, i cant wait for tab affinities. sorting inventory every 1-2 maps gets tedious, and i dont really like dump tabs

red wharf
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it's not confirmed this idea will be implemented @hard totem. Sorry for bursting your bubble 🙂

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I just resoluted to quad dump tab and doing general sort outs every 10-20 maps

hard totem
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oh yea, i am fully aware they might never do it, it says so right there in the announcement post, but a man can dream

barren wadi
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hey can the add influence to an item craft add shaper and elder?

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or just the four conqueror inf

red wharf
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@barren wadi all of them, 6 influences total

void wing
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Yea my zana yesterday all had time limits is possible.

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There are some missions which can't be timed like trial.

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Seems they bricked it the opposite way with the 'fix'.

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It was bugged to never have timed missions.

red wharf
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is there a reason to pop t4 gardens on high quant t5 map vs high quant t16 map?

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I'm wondering if loot from seed is determined by what kind of seeds are planted (ilvl, etc.), so area zone for popping wouldn't matter

inland linden
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at what level exactly do the 'OP leveling harvest crafts' like exalts etc. start tapering off to their endgame rarities? i'm starting HC atm and I think I should probably farm them for a while before reaching mapping because of how easy it is to do certain really good crafts at early level

rigid stream
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Higher is better. They are fairly common at high lvl as well

barren crescent
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Harvest offers very good pseudo targeted items

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with the themed reforges

full dragon
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hey guys i need nice garden plan can some1 send some tips

compact junco
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check the pins

limber escarp
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guys, how does fortune flower works? it says it gives me 3 of the rarest chosen craft from the seed in his radius

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buy like, if i plant speed seeds, it grants me his 3 rarest crafts? or what?

autumn dragon
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any1 op player could help me ?

brisk capeBOT
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Don't ask to ask! Post your question here so that people actually know if they can help. It's also better to discuss your question publicly so more people can chime in or learn! That's why these channels are here!

weary raptor
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Idk if someone has done this before, but I reckon someone has. I don't play the game this league but I enjoy watching Empyrian gambling so I made this graph

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<@&174997701513969665> Can someone please allow me to post a picture here?

sterile brook
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@weary raptor you can now

weary raptor
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ty

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This is the odds graph of gambling div cards, 1 at a time (4 times in a row) vs 4 at a time

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the outcomes are at the bottom

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I found it interesting to analyze really. If you don't get hurt from losing the 4 cards or even 3, putting in 4 at a time is better, but if it hurts then 1 at a time is wiser

autumn snow
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moar graphs

rancid hull
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set new implicit to cluster jewel will erase my current cluster jewel or add a new mod?

frail kayak
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if im thinking of the same thing, the seedcraft that adds an implicit to any jewel, its going to add an implicit that isn't relevant to the cluster jewel's mod. So like, 1% movement speed as an example

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the cluster jewels are considered enchants

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if its specifically talking about an implicit on a cluster jewel in the text though, it might be referring to changing the jewel altogether, but i havent seen anytthing like that

wet plaza
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it just adds or rerolls a new implicit. enchants are not touched

frail kayak
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Just got my first few t4 seeds...what's the strategy to using them? I should probably grow one asap at least right? to get the boss ticker going? after that do a full patch of t4 like i did the other tiers?

strong mauve
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You should not do a full patch of T4s. You would have to fight 24 bosses at once.

frail kayak
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Did the one, wasnt bad

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Can probably handle a few at once. A full patch is probably risky though and so much work down the drain lol

celest atlas
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I almost didnt make it on a full T3 with 3 flowers .. i used the whole map just to recharge my life flask 😉 was around 280k lifeforce in the end .. but man .. i had to get each boss separated .. and the esp. the blue once are so fast ...

coral garden
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3 flowers?

celest atlas
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3 different buff ... not sure which

coral garden
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They dont stack no?

celest atlas
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not the same one ..

coral garden
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I know

celest atlas
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but a fortune flower a lifeforce flower and a horticrafting flower ....

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which i guess also increase the difficulty of the bosses!?

coral garden
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Weird i could have sworn i seen them not stacking

celest atlas
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a fortune bud and a fortune flower dont stack .. but fortune flower and lifeforce flower does imho

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coz its a different buff

slender dune
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Why does it seem like my seeds quit growing is there a set limit you can have ?

devout osprey
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is this for t1 or t2+ seeds

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they have a range, its like +/-5 levels of seeds that the map have to be

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or you run out of lifeforce for your t2+ seeds

slender dune
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Oh might be a level range thing

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Yup got them running a red map and am doing whites for atlas now thanks m8

zenith zephyr
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Is there a reason why a level 68 T1 seed won't advance a growth cycle when entering the grove from a level 67 zone?

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Weirdly, it only seems to be level 68 T1 seeds I'm having a problem with not advancing in growth cycles.

valid talon
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Seems weird. I've had it work with a zone 5 levels lower usually.

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Or maybe the +5 lvl range only occurs in maps?

sand pulsar
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Am I blind or is there not a stash in the grove

copper kernel
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you are not blind

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having a stash in a map would be problematic

silver kettle
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there is not. since you can access the grove in maps, having a stash in it would allow unlimited access in maps. there's a button to click to use items from your stash while crafting

radiant eagle
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hello. Is here anybody?

sharp iron
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So I'm in act 8 and am doing fine with just 2 collectors of each type, harvesting tier 1 seeds and some tier 2s. When did other people start getting more complex setups with more collectors and dabbling in tier 3 and tier 4 seeds?

native sonnet
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anytime, and u dont even need those complex minmax farm setup unless u plan on buying seeds, u can modify the t2 farm to be able to grow t2-4 seeds there

sharp iron
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Well my farm for each type right now is just two collectors kept just far enough apart so that their areas don't overlap and then a dispenser in the middle between them. I suppose I could put two dispensers in the middle instead of one so that two different life force types can be dispensed.

next epoch
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You will need to set up some more dispensers as you start growing more T2+ seeds at once, or any T3+ seeds

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T3 seeds need dispensers of both other colors, T4 seeds need all three dispensers (including their own color)

sharp iron
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I suppose I'll do that once I get a decent amount of t2 seeds

wise pilot
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They should have made flowers in increments of 24

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I got all these with 6

sand pulsar
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When people sell crafts

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Is there some way to store a craft or what does that mean

lapis parcel
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@sand pulsar you can store three crafts in a horticrafting station. There is a blue seed that doubles lifeforce, plus the lifeforce flower so using those with a field of t2+ will gove you plenty of lifeforce to make extra horticrafting stations

winged vigil
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do blossoms that grant the same effect stack?

velvet palm
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No

sand pulsar
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Thank you

raven hawk
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does the "Add a random influence" harvest craft add the influence + an influence mod or just the influence?

copper kernel
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just the influence

cunning turtle
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Is it possible to change the behavior about whom seed caches belong to when playing in party? It is realy weird that who found it first - takes it.

native sonnet
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no, and no its not by who found it first

cunning turtle
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Hm, I pretty sure it is

native sonnet
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it belongs to the instance owner - the person who created the instance

cunning turtle
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Ok, thanks for that clarification. But I still think it's weird

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It's actually the only reason why we started to play separately with my friend

autumn snow
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it's sad, yes :x

sharp iron
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What's the name of that unique amulet that has effects depending on how much is remaining of a curse's duration?

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Nevermind

neat trellis
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for the fortune bud, blossom, and flower how do i know what are the rarest options for each seed

vast gazelle
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you can somewhat guess but its supposed to be obfuscated

red wharf
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hey, if I want to optimize harvesting, all that matters is map quantity? Tier doesn't matter? I'm thinking if I should just get 100% quant t10 map and harvest

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also, does pack size from map affect how many mobs spawn from seeds?

wise quest
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Pack size doesnt matter as each seed is one monster.

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Map quant does affect T2 drops, but map also map tier ( it think, or is map tier only for the seed cache T1 drops ? ) so maybe do it a higher then t10.

autumn snow
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I guess it affects t2 drops indirectly through map quantity?

sand pulsar
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When people sell a harvest craft

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How are they doing that? Can you trade a hortaculture station?

devout osprey
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game of trust kingmichael

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the #trading discord has vouches if that help

sand pulsar
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Damn aight

little crow
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do people tend to sell specific seeds or do they just mixed bag them

wise pilot
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Specific.

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Once you go down the seed buying path, it's hard to stop

little crow
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is there a way to price em?

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i need attack seeds something fierce

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but not quarry lvl ones, at least lvl 72

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i swear when i go into trade chat people just type random numbers for their seed prices 😄

wise pilot
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2 for a chaos is the common rate for most t1s

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Use the trade site, ig trade chat is 95% scammers

little crow
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right on

unreal mural
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Q about harvesting,.
Will the dispersers disperse if both requirements aren't met?

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Wasting life force?

devout osprey
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no

unreal mural
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Oh excellent thank you

violet nymph
devout osprey
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you already have lightning

violet nymph
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Fire*

solid pecan
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should i remove storage?

haughty oracle
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the harvest option where i can change a unique into a random unique weapon, can they change into every unique weapon, or just the same itemlevel as the first item ? or is my level the factor ?

frigid holly
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@violet nymph Yes, but I think only by doing it in two steps (first targeted annul the chaos then target exalt the fire)

radiant eagle
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good morning. Is there anybody?

royal gale
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No

soft lynx
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Can anyone name the seed that gives beachead map for harbringer uniques?

haughty oracle
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i got a fortunate flower....should i wait using them until im late game ?

soft lynx
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you could sell it for good c if you dont craft things yourself

sand pulsar
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I crafted a item level 82 body on a 79 craft

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How is that possible

versed marlin
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Crafts are usable on items +/- 10ilvl of the craft ilvl up to i75crafts. i76 works on items upto i100

sand pulsar
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Jfc

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That is good to know lol

blissful spindle
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is there a list of possible Synthesise Implicits from T4 vivid?

autumn snow
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search for synthesis implicits on poedb

sharp iron
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I definitely think that Harvest should be pretty heavily nerfed before it goes core. It goes beyond just making so many currency items useless, it straight up trivialized the game. I beat Kitava in only around 2 minutes with no deaths and no real grinding throughout the game because I could just Harvest craft a 5-link chest and amazing wand with little effort.

hasty perch
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nice meme

copper kernel
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the campaign is basically a tutorial anyway

hasty perch
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I also believe they should nerf heavily the starting wand because i beat hillock within 2 minutes with fireball on that 2L

sharp iron
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I have played through PoE several times before and seen footage of streamers who were masters at the game. It was never anywhere near this easy.

hasty perch
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same

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hillock never understood what hit him

sharp iron
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I honestly did consider if it was just the fact that I knew more about the game, had a better computer, or the class was just plain better to explain why I was having such an easy time. But after completely overwhelming Kitava, I can definitely say it's too easy.

hasty perch
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on a more serious note

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i can 1 minute kitava with spellslinger on pretty much any class

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with awfull gear

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so I don't think using a campain boss for balance is any usefull

vast gazelle
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@sharp iron i will be ok with harvest being nerfed when there are other forms of crafting put in that arent just gambling

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also, kitava is uh

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not the best bar to measure this

sand pulsar
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Is kitava the boss in the acts?

hasty perch
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yes

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act 5/10

fiery glacier
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why the hell here is no seed sell buy channel? where is that thing?

copper kernel
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because as you might have noticed

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there arent any trading channels here

grizzled blaze
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"wild spikeback grain" has 4 outcomes (reroll keeping prefixes, reroll keeping suffixes, reroll more likely to get same modifier types, reroll less likely to get same modifier types)

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which ones are the 'rare' ones, i'm not sure whether to use a fortune blossom or not

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oh ok i found a website that claims keeping prefix/suffix are the rarer ones, hope its right

velvet palm
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"I beat kitava in less than 2 minutes and without dying"

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That's like

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Twice as long as normal people

wise pilot
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Honestly the difference between t3 mods and t1 mods is marginal

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You can already do most of the content in the game half asleep in t3 gear.

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With the right build

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I think the only change to harvest should be harder to get influence mods

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Tailwind taking almost 0 effort shouldnt go core for example

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But being able to reliably craft t1 resists on a belt or something wouldnt be game breaking and might make room for more build diversity

vapid gazelle
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reliably crafting T1 resists is hella gamebreaking

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it frees up so much room for other suffixes

sharp iron
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Did they nerf Kitava at some point? I've heard people saying that Kitava was extremely difficult at launch and joking around that Cast on Death support was how you beat him when he was released.

wet plaza
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they lied

cunning turtle
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Does "Increased Quantity Of Drops" increases the chance to get higher tier of seed from harvesting (more drops - more tries of dropping a higher tier seed in my understanding)? As I understood, "Increased Rarity" should not affect the chance of them.

hasty perch
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kitava was never difficult

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he has very damaging attacks especially if you go there yolo in softcore with very little life

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so people didn't know the pattern

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and got bopped

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just like the first time i fought dominus a long time ago with a friend we got killed like 10 times by the acid rain and stuff because we didn't know what did damage and what didn't

sterile brook
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same thing happens with every new story boss tbh

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when Malachai came out he wrecked people and everyone was so scared of fighting him in HC

vast gazelle
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kitava wasnt really meaningfully nerfed, people just learned his attacks

sterile brook
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people would make public parties "Selling Malachai Cruel Kill service: 3c" and they'd have lots of buyers in league hardcore

vast gazelle
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lots of deaths to the nearly full arena fire before people realized there was a thin pizza slice of safe

candid wolf
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New to harvest: Do i just toss my lower level t2 seeds out for the most part? Dont want to accidentally plant them.

red wharf
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i really wonder why ggg didnt want to let elder/shaper frag converting seedcraft work for uber frags as well 😦

cold bridge
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hi, how does the seed level correlate to the item level i can craft on. i saw some posts saying you can craft on items higher than the seed level?

hasty perch
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you can craft on items up to 10 levels higher than the seed

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any item above ilvl 86 being considered 86 for that purpose making ilvl 76 seed the minimum level to craft on everything endgame

little crow
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how do you buy the crafts? is is a trust trade? and can they be searched somewhere?

sour mountain
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can you trade the horti stations? 🤔

velvet palm
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No

cold bridge
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hi, how do i store a harvest craft? i've just put a crafting bench down but can't see how i store something?

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nm didn't realise i needed to pylon it up

warped python
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What flowers or whatever are the best to have to get many rem/add of the seeds u plant?

sand pulsar
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To store a craft

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You need a horticulture

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It's 1800 life force you can craft it at any harvest thing

sturdy sedge
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Is the auto disperse functionality still bugged? When I tried entering my garden from the map, I needed to disperse manually; all the plants were red for the lifeforce requirements. This went away after I clicked on the dispersion icons.

tawdry plover
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It wont disperse until you click yhethe cache in a map, so when you're in garden they'll always be red. Yes, they do work

sturdy sedge
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I did click the cache in the map

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That's how I entered my garden from the map, after opening the cache, there was a portal to take me to the garden

sturdy sedge
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Ok, nv. Purely visual bug

violet nymph
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Can someone explain me why I can't feed T2 seeds which need Vivid Lifeforce? I've Vivid Liferoce in Storage.

sharp gulch
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Is it all connected properly and do you have enough and is it in range if the disperser

severe juniper
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You can stack buff from seeds enhancements? different buff stacks and same buffs don't?

topaz helm
fallen marsh
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you don't have a collector

blazing depot
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Where can I find the most current optimized garden layout?

potent stirrup
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guys, does the seeds supposed to not grow if i switch a character to the one who haven't completed the story yet and enter the Sacred Grove through the seed (that spawns at every map) or is it a bug? (pls @ me, thanks)

autumn snow
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seeds level are too high

potent stirrup
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@autumn snow im talking about t1 seeds though

autumn snow
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what about it

potent stirrup
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t1 seeds stoped growing after i switched characters

autumn snow
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their level is too high

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tier doesn't matter, it's all the same

potent stirrup
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t1 seeds dont even dispay their level when seeded

autumn snow
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they do

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"spawn a level x monster when harvested"

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monster level = seed level

haughty oracle
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do seed caches spawn in low lv areas ?

autumn snow
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define low lvl area

haughty oracle
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im lv 68, do lv 4 areas spawn them ?

autumn snow
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no

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why would you want to do that anyway

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with lvl 4 seeds, you can only craft up to ilvl 14 items

haughty oracle
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to grow ma garden, i have 4 full fields, but they all take so long to grow xD

silver kettle
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seeds also don't tick if the cache you open is too far away in level from the seeds' level

autumn snow
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I still wonder what's the lvl range for that

haughty oracle
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damn

silver kettle
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I don't actually know off the top of my head Cake

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sorry

languid path
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almost baited

autumn snow
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I've heard it's 5 on maps I think

languid path
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gj viper pepeLaugh

wanton rivet
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when is the best time to harvest? is it when map is in influence?

covert nacelle
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asap if you want the crafts, on juiced maps if you want the drops.

orchid peak
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what lvl of seed do i need to craft an ilvl 86 item?

void wing
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Minimum 76.

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It's -10.

sand pulsar
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75

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I believe my friend

velvet palm
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No

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76

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It's +-10 of the ilvl

topaz helm
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guys i have only 1 collector how do i go about creating a second one?

nimble totem
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I can't seem to buy new pylons after the initial batch. It doesn't show up on any of the collectors. I've done Oshabi's quests.

topaz helm
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they cost 75 but i can't hold more then 43 lifeforce?

compact junco
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you need to plan more seeds at once

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to get more lifeforce per harvest

topaz helm
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oh ok

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i'm i screwed now or

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what do i do with the power i have just condense

compact junco
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store it

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or buy pylons

topaz helm
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i have only 1 storage building and is linked to blue

compact junco
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the collector by itself can hold some lifeforce

topaz helm
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yes 43?

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i'm so confused like

compact junco
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yea so either just condense it or buy pylons, its fine. and then stack some seeds and collect multiple at once when they are raedy

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then you get more lifeforce per harvest and you will be able to craft more collectors

topaz helm
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i have 5 pylons i dont know what to use them for

compact junco
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you will need more later so you can just slap them into seed cache

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for now

topaz helm
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i need storage tank but like i have only 1

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so whats the best right now since i need storage tank

compact junco
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well the best thing is to do harvest with 24 seeds

topaz helm
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ok

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so i wait till it's full and every1 is ready to harvest?

compact junco
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yes

topaz helm
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ok thank you for taking the time to explain

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i watch vidoes and stuff but usually they are past the very start

compact junco
nimble totem
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Reposting this since it got pushed back a bit: I can't seem to buy new pylons after the initial batch. It doesn't show up on any of the collectors. I've done Oshabi's quests.

topaz helm
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as SSF player what's the most immportant goal with harvest for me

compact junco
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craft good gear? :d that is what harvest is for

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also it helps a lot with leveling (i assume you are still leveling). the reforges/augments on low ilvl wands basically guarantee stuff like +lvls, added flat etc

topaz helm
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yes level 44 but i haven't done much with harvest i was just using it on cd when ever plants where ready

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i tought it auto levled and i just needed to kill as much astuff as possible similar to gem's

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ye i made want with the + dmg i wanted actually

nimble totem
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I've tried googling for the issue, but all the people who've had the same issue don't seem to get any solutions. Maybe I'm just blind or not searching the right keywords, but I'm not sure how to remedy this. I also can't craft the wild collector (at least on the wild collector, idk about vivid or primal yet), the option isn't there either along with the pylons.

topaz helm
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so the idea is deathbeam is to link 2 fields wait for all plants to be ready and haverst them at once? then store the energy?

compact junco
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you dont have to link anything, just plant 24 seeds (what is max) around your collector

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and yes, wait till all 24 are grown up

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and then harvest

topaz helm
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oke thanks

compact junco
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so e.g if you are short on seeds just keep planting them around that collector (or other types of collectors for different seeds) until its full and then when all grow harvest them

topaz helm
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damn i have been wasting my plants then FeelsBadMan

coral garden
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Condense is to store, u can only buy stuff with lifeforce before condensing. If theres some red words saying discard near the button it means u dont have enough storage

topaz helm
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how do i unlock or go about planting higher tier plants?

compact junco
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you get higher tier plants when harvesting lower tier plants

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(e.g always +1 tier)

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and for higher tier plants you need dispensers connected to lifeforce they require

topaz helm
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where is the dispenser location best? between 2 purple fields or what

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i have everything ready to harvest, on the right to store and dispenser on the left all conected

compact junco
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sure

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oh oops late reply

topaz helm
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all good, thanks getting the hang of it

ember valley
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is the pinned farm layout the recommended up to date layout?

compact junco
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yea that one is decent

ember valley
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thanks!

drifting hazel
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hey guys, what does the H mean?

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on the harvest garden diagrams?

copper kernel
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harvester?

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i think that was the correct item

compact junco
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i think H is horticrafting station

barren meteor
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Hey guys, i just made the pinned harvest layout, connected everything up, am i supposed to put auto "ON" ALL the dispensers in the T4 seed Area right away?

And why aren't the collectors in T4 connected up to any pylons. new to the tier stuff

compact junco
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yes just make everything auto :d

lethal fable
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Yo is 99.5% efficiency harvest layout any good if i remove 2 collectors for horti?

red jackal
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why would you want to do that

high scaffold
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the one pinned is probably the best one

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easy short access to t1 plot.... top left can have lots of hortistation or tanks depending on ur need

autumn snow
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Max efficiency is a meme

topaz helm
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why doesn't this work

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the left side dispenser is both linked with the collector and storage tank?

patent canyon
topaz helm
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is it wrong order?

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on the left is ocnnected to dispenser

patent canyon
topaz helm
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k thanks fixed it, i guess it has to be next to the flower my order was bad. thanks!

sand pulsar
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Any kind of crafting is only going to affect explicits on an item unless otherwise stated right?

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Like reforging doesn't affect the the implicit or quality right

ruby inlet
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Correct unless otherwise stated

frigid holly
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Can anyone confirm that Harvest crafts all respect 'prefixes cannot be changed' and 'suffixes cannot be changed' master-crafted mods?

topaz helm
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any mods/admins

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im pretty sure i found a bug

royal gale
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you can report it in game or on the forums

topaz helm
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👍 video format ok?

haughty oracle
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why is the wild tier 2 seed asking for more vivid lifeforce when i already connected it to a dispenser with 2000units ?

sour lintel
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It's a sort of visual bug. As long as you have the lifeforce and autodisperse is active it will do it

grizzled blaze
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can "remove non-X add X" remove a prefix and add a suffix? I am trying to make an assassins mark dex essence ring, and so have been doing (1) use essence (2) remove other suffixes, add three prefixes (3) craft crit chance (4) remove non-crit add crit, I think? the chance of removing a prefix should be 3/4 (and then 1/2 for hitting lvl 12 assassins mark), but I have removed the dex suffix 4 times in a row, so I am not sure if I'm doing something wrong

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or if I just got unlucky

autumn snow
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It can

grizzled blaze
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can confirm it was just a fluke, fifth time worked fine

pine pewter
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i wanna change my fire resist into cold resist on a helm but it says im too low level

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or actually that the item level is too high

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is there a way to change the resistances or is that only for lower level items

shy dragon
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@pine pewter ilvl 76 seeds should work just fine even for ilvl 100 since its getting downscaled in harvest.

coral garden
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@grizzled blaze if your suffixes are full it wont remove a prefix because that would mean having 4 suffixes

timber sundial
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So, it would seem I'm doing something terrible wrong if the replies from the "Harvest isn't going core" thread are correct. How in the hell does Harvest seem to make the maps+ content trivial?

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I'm struggling just to survive a T5 map using Enki's. And I'm certainly not drowning in enough seeds to support more than 2 collectors each. One for T1s and another for T2+.

versed marlin
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You're not necessarily doing anything wrong, if you're in T5 maps atm you're pretty early into your atlas progression. It takes time generate the very GG gear through harvest crafting but the gear you can achieve for a certain level of effort and/or currency is much better than the equivalent gear in previous leagues so it trivialises the gearing process and your characters get way stronger way faster than before. So the same content is nowhere near as challenging within the same time frame.

As for the seeds issue you mention, nobody finds enough T1 seeds while mapping to self sustain their garden, you either bulk buy them to maintain full fields or you waste growth cycles while getting more seeds and having empty plots.

coral garden
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@timber sundial u are probably new i guess?

timber sundial
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Yes actually. This is the first season I've gone beyond Act 4

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I just don't have the time to dedicate more often than not.

coral garden
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Then obviously u arent gonna have the knowhow to craft things, do maps

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Also the thing with having more collectors is so that u dont have to enter the grove every map

timber sundial
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So far I've found that progression is very RNG based. I got lucky enough early on to get a 4 link, then a 5link armor, so my Arc could basically nuke anything that wasn't a boss.

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That's... annoying.

coral garden
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Once u enter maps go get the 4L recipe from delving

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5L is quite common but not really needed for lower tier maps

timber sundial
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Oh I have that. I'm doing maps now. I keep running into The Crusader in my T5s, and his mods are fucking me up.

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Plus now I bought a nice 5L Shroud of the Lightless, though I need to recolour a single socket. So my offence is respectable. Most trash and blue mobs die in a single Arc doublecast

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But my life is about 3.5k, and even with 50-75 in my elemental res I'm still made of glass.

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Chaos is a painful -14

coral garden
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Harvest is the same as trading. The natural progression gets accelerated

timber sundial
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I'm trying to farm unvields so I can get the 'trigger on skill cast' mod for my wand. That would automate my desecrate->bone offering combo to give me more survivability.

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However given my squishiness the laboratory runs keep failing.

coral garden
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U wont get that in t5 maps

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Thats an ilvl75 unveil which means u need minimum T6 maps

timber sundial
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That is annoying.

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I suppose I could be saving random caster gear to reroll via harvest.

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The core 'crafting' system of 'throw alchemy/scouring at an item and pray' is... vexing to say the least.

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Yet for some reason both the devs and the top players seem to feel that the harvest system is broken.

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Ah well. The game is fun, mechanically solid for the most part. But I can honestly say I wont be giving it much time, let alone more money, when the league ends.

coral garden
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Well its not possible to cater the game to everyone

timber sundial
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It's a business. You cater to those giving you money. I don't fault them for that.

coral garden
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I like harvest crafting but i can honestly do without it

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So if it's gone for the sake of longevity of the game idm

timber sundial
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I think that harvest crafting, for the little that I've used it, seems to be a vast improvement over 'throw currency at the wall and pray'

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Yet the latter option does keep the game going longer as you need more and more playtime to reach the highest points.

coral garden
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Yep

timber sundial
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Thus, more and more likely to spend money on shiny things.

coral garden
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Same reason no AH and they deliberately slow trade down

timber sundial
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From a purely financial point of view, it's what I'd do.

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But from a 'I only have time to play causally at best' view point, it's annoying.

coral garden
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I see arguments saying harvest will let them try more builds but theres only so much to try and if harvest is permanent these people will run out of new things to try faster than if it didnt go core

timber sundial
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What's the best location to rapid farm t1 seeds of level 65-75?

coral garden
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Quarry

timber sundial
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That a map?

coral garden
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Act

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9?

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Jus run around the entrance to the next zone and u can see all the possible cache spawns

craggy gull
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How can we make the Harvest League to Core Game? Suggestions.

1- Set multiple seed caches to spawn on each map like Alva. For example 3 to 5 seed caches each map triggered with 10% chance.

2- Set the number of seed caches spawning according to tiers. For example 2 on campaign, 3 on white maps, 4 on yellow maps, 5 on red maps. But fix the total seed drop from one seed cache. For example 20 random seeds total.

3- Change the seed caches to open a portal only when they have collected them completely. Or when a seed cache is opened, close previous portals like Alva.

4- Each seed cache gives a growth cycle.

5- Limit Horticrafts. For example 100. But rework it to carry 5 craft.

6- In order not to slow down the speed, you can give a basic tier1 tier2 seed farming layout to players on start.

These are my suggestions. Any different suggest appreciated. Thank you.

vernal spoke
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garden is fine if it's pre-set like beastry mechanic

vernal spoke
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I didn't say merge lmao 🤷‍♂️

sharp iron
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I feel there should be Strength/Dexterity/Inteligence seeds. It feels most Harvesr crafts don't work on accessories and being able to go for attribute requirements or new forms of attribute scailing in the late game would be convenient.

velvet palm
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Uh no

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Attribute scaling is the strongest form of scaling

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So it should still be somewhat difficult to do

sinful oxide
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can you use two difference types of flowers at once?

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per crop

velvet palm
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Different? Yes.

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You can use all three

slender relic
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Does it matter where you do the heart of the grove encounter? like, map or not?

past badger
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Nope

velvet palm
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You can only do it in a map

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T11+ as well, as far as I remember

worthy turtle
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is there a harvest seed craft option to remove a influence mod from an item? not the influence.

shy dragon
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is there a harvest seed craft option to remove a influence mod from an item? not the influence.
@worthy turtle yes Primal Blisterfruit (Tier 4) can grant Remove Influence Modifier.

frail kayak
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I think they should do something like, remove the grove, and instead of clicking on seed caches in maps, we just click on a harvester effectively (change the name or function however you like). Basically you click a thing and instead of getting seeds that have to build up beyond measure, it just straight up spawns a pack of enemies. Killing them either drops an item that lets us apply a craft to our bench (like infused zana mods work, but adds to bench), or maybe it gives us a crafting interface and we can save up to 3 of the crafts each time. And then just give us a new bench in hideout that stores harvest crafts or something (since we can't use the current form of horti benches)

If you did it this way and treated it like other league mechanics, we would see one every 10 maps or so, and we wouldnt have control over what the mods are, and you probably put remove adds and influence and all those good ones in red maps or something (sort the drops by tiers). Getting one cache every 10 maps would be relatively slow for banking crafts (and again, we wouldnt have control over what we see so it could take 100 t16s to see an influence craft for example).

Bottom line is it would take quite awhile to acquire these powerful crafts, but they would at least still be available. And transitioning away from the garden and just making it spawn the enemies right away would solve the issue of how slow progression of the mechanic would be.

wanton flicker
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ive been playing for almost 4 years now, ill most likely quit playing as the deterministic crafting was the best thing to happen to the game since the atlas

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ruining the economy is such a B.S excuse to not go core. The drop off this league was due to the mechanic and not the crafting system

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Mix it with a betrayal like mechanic where you unlock some uses of each craft every time you open a cache.. dont even have to retain the other things

glad hollow
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Do you guys do your harvests on high tier and high quantity maps?

coral garden
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Im sorry what? When did they state that the reason of it not going core is a ruined economy?

glad hollow
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I mean I get their point, its not fun to get a double mult/life jewel anymore, because its worth maybe 20c. I love the mechanic, but they should tune it down

coral garden
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However, at the top end of gameplay, Harvest has made it too easy to gain very powerful items that previously required a lot more work and investment to acquire. This was acceptable for a temporary challenge league but poses problems for the long-term health of Path of Exile's item economy if allowed to remain in its current state.@wanton flicker

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Item economy not the economy

wanton flicker
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Item economy controls overall economy

mortal yarrow
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Item economy is the economy more or less

topaz helm
devout osprey
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it costs lifeforce, its a bauble there to quickly show what it does

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instead of reading the text

topaz helm
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ohhhhhhhh neat

coral garden
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It is related but very different. Why tf would ggg care if chaos is 200 or 500 to an ex?

haughty oracle
velvet palm
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T2+

haughty oracle
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oh

topaz helm
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is it possible to create 5link ( i know 4link is possible) via harvest?

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for example 5 link chest or something

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5 sockets * excuse me

void wing
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Yea, 6 socket and 6 link both are possible.

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It's just super rare.

velvet palm
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5 socket/links aren't rare, for the record

idle whale
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I have exactly build my harvest like this and the disperser are still never working 😦

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I dont get it, I am stuck with T1 seeds all the time T_T

idle whale
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Yes

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It has a green marker

rose pasture
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Does it matter in what map to activate grown up t3-4 seeds?
Which is better if is?

noble stump
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Is it just me or the T2+ seeds drop rate is very bad right now?

charred river
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has anyone one fractured port map that i can mirror it and run it infinite for myself?

versed marlin
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You need an original non mirrored map to run infinite. Can't use a fractured fossil on a mirrored copy

charred river
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then

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has anyone an original port map? xD

eager charm
haughty oracle
compact junco
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you just place them down in top right corner?

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that 4 is basically up to 4

haughty oracle
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oh got it

haughty oracle
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btw...what do the 3 mean in the top right corner ? the collector doesnt allow them to be placed there

quasi crest
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What will happen to the saved horticraft stations when league ends ? Is there an official answer ?

copper kernel
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probably unusable

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no info yet

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probably will come with the manifesto when were closer to launch

sterile fulcrum
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“Void league”

cold bridge
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what impact is the seed level having on the exchange a beast/unique/harbringer item for a related item ?

dire stratus
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i have a question about the tier 1 wild hatchling seed
"Reforge the colours of sockets on an item 10 times, using the outcome with the greatest number of less-common socket colours"
what does this so?

versed marlin
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If you had a dex/int base then red sockets would be the least likely. It uses 10 chromatic orbs on your item then gives you the outcome that had the most red sockets from the 10 tries. If your base was strength only then it would give you the outcome with the most green and blue sockets as they're the least likely to roll

pliant relic
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How do we remove int from an item using harvest crafts

mortal yarrow
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No specif guarantee to remove it, it depends on the item You have @pliant relic

rustic shore
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how much can a ilvl65 seed can sell? for 1k its 1 ex is it?

rare tiger
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Quitting league, what is the best base item to synthesise? Like, a white base that can sell for 100+ ex with gg implicits

torpid sonnet
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probably a good weapon base

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foil or thicket bow

violet nymph
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yeah do thicket bow

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loooots of implicits are GG for it

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from +1 gems to physical damage

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rings are also good

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if you get onslaught/intimidate/arcane surge/power charge, gg

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i think, i forget what things apply to what

cold bridge
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the harbinger conversion does it make any different whether i just a piece or full unique?

haughty oracle
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is the amount of seeds i get from a cache random ?

proper frigate
autumn snow
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yes

proper frigate
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Cool

pliant relic
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Is there any way to use ilvl 72 harvest modifiers on a ilvl 80?

hasty perch
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yes

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click on it

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and use it

pliant relic
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I keep getting the message item level is too high

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Does the horti crafting station change that?

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Is it possible to save crafts and sell them?
I'm trying to roll res gear atm so i ignore the attack ones

red jackal
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monster level limits what ilvl you can craft on. it's monster lvl +10.
horti lets you store crafts. it doesn't interfere with the ilvl limitation.
sure, you can sell crafts. check #trading

thick oar
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hey so horicraft benches are gonna be deleted after the league i take it since its not going core?

velvet palm
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Likely not

midnight phoenix
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probably not

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u will just have a bunch of benches in ur stash that dont do anything

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same as ppl have leaguestones and beastcrafting nets that dont do anything

velvet palm
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Pepehands

viscid wharf
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You get T2 seeds by planting T1 with a dispencer right?

velvet palm
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uh, you just get T2s by harvesting T1s

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T3s, from T2s, etc.

spiral cipher
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can you make a hexa influence item for the memes

velvet palm
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no

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you can only have two influences on an item

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at most

sullen scroll
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okay i've basically gotten to 2k condenses of each seed... apparently thats not how i can get 1800 lifeforce for horticrafting station

sharp iron
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There are two slots for influence symbols. One to the left of the name and one to the right. So an item could not have more than two influence types.

sullen scroll
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yes, you can use the special orbs to add a second influence

sharp iron
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I think only the Awakener's Orb can add a 2nd influence.

coral garden
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@sullen scroll u can only buy stuff with the lifeforce before u click condense once u click that its straight to the storage

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So its easier to get horti stations with T2/3/4

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T1 seeds can net u 1 station if u add the red flower but thats horribly inefficient

velvet palm
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Condensed life-force is for dispensers only

wooden girder
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I've just used 'add influence to an item' and didn't get a challenge for it. Is there a point of writing to support? Or will they tell me "thanks for report, better luck next time"

native sonnet
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"add influence" and "add influence MOD" are 2 different craft

wooden girder
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Oh, I thought it's the same

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what do I need to get it then?

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according to this there is only adding influence to not-influenced item

native sonnet
wooden girder
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I see, I need new glasses 😛

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thanks

plush briar
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can someone give me a good garden layout using buds and flowers

lunar stirrup
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guys what jeweler to influence worth a lot to do?

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i mean which is the good base jewelry to craft influnece on now?

candid depot
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do people sell the synthesise harvest craft?

neon magnet
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Are they ever going to add QOL stuff to harvest I thoroughly hate parts of it

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Like is it something being talked about

copper kernel
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league isnt going core in its current state anyway

neon magnet
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😂 oh great

slender temple
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Im going through all my crafts now

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25+ fracture crafts I dunno what to use on

mortal yarrow
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Sell them

slender temple
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I'll try

runic snow
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cant go wrong on all spell wands

gleaming peak
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!leagues

brisk capeBOT
#

Temporary leagues last 3 months, contain a unique new mechanic and do not allow players access to their existing characters and items. Most players play the temporary leagues.

Standard is the permanent league and has been running since Path of Exile's launch. There are many more items in the economy, deflating their value. The population is lower than the temporary leagues. If you can only play a small amount of time per week and want to go very far in the game, this can be a good game mode.

If you are a new player, it is strongly recommended to play in the current temporary league.

The Harvest league began on Friday June 19 at 1pm PDT.
The Harvest league will end on Monday September 14 at 3pm PDT.
The [unknown] league will tentatively start Friday September 18.
This information was last updated on August 3rd.

For details on what happens when a league ends, see https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091028

noble stump
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does map quality and rarity affects the amount of seeds i get?

wise pilot
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No one knows, just harvest important plots in decent maps to be safe

worthy turtle
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has there been any info from GGG if horticrafting stations will be usable or useless in standard once this league ends? I know harvest is not going core. but wondering what happens to existing seeds/crafting stations at the end

velvet palm
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Probably will be unusable

slender temple
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Im using all my vuluable crafts before league endd I guess

lofty vortex
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hi, does level monsters affect the seeds somehow?

velvet palm
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which monsters are you talking about?

hasty perch
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the monster is locked at the level of the seed

white hull
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are my tanks supposed to be full?

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some plants says its required x amounts of vivid thing

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or wild, and they should come from my dispenser right?

versed marlin
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Yeah that's right you need disperses in range of these seeds and the disperses need to be connected to the correct colour storage tanks to disperse it

warped python
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which buds/flowers e.t.c is the best to get aug, remove/add and remove? is it fortune flower or horti flower? (I dont want blossoms)

versed marlin
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Both together

cold bridge
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with the remove/add craft if you don't have the modifier on an item it just acts as an augment?

versed marlin
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No it just wouldn't work, you can bench craft on a mod with that tag if there's one available for your items open prefix or suffix and then the remove/add will work

cold bridge
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ok thanks

wise pilot
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Anyone else have terrible luck with lightning seeds?

short raptor
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why can i not sustain seeds

violet nymph
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Is it possible for me to get a 6 socket/6 link craft from tier 1 vivid leech seeds/ tier 1 primal feasting horror? I almost never get them.

devout osprey
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yes

white hull
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do ilvl of seeds affect life force gain?

autumn snow
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You mean level? Yes

cerulean night
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are there bugged T4 harvest seeds?

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i finally got one to the point i could harvest it and i've bene sitting in the fight for 10 minutes

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keeps spawning adds but i haven't really taken damage from anything and there's no like big scary monster

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am i just out a T4 seed?

violet nymph
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i do remember one of the T4s just spawning ads endlessly

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but it did eventually stop

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i don't know if there was a trigger to stop it or what

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but it took at least a minute or two

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maybe longer

versed marlin
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You need to keep damaging the boss while clearing the adds to get through the add phases

cerulean night
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i'm going on minute 20

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i don't see a boss

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just adds

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and a ring of glowing roots

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does it tunnel or fly? like might it have gotten stuck in an invulnerable state?

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sigh. oh well. just about done with this league anyway. just kinda wanted to try that part since i hadn't gotten to experience it yet

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interesting. i think the adds are now spawning as level 1 monsters

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there's a ton of ilvl 1 items

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mixed in with some ilvl 84 items

versed marlin
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Sounds like you could be experiencing a bugged fight at this point then sadly

cerulean night
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yup

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RIP the only T4 yellow seed i've seen all league

versed marlin
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The yellow boss does have a couple of attacks where he goes into stealth but if you've been trying to fight it for 20 mins I would assume you've been all over the grove and can't get him back out

cerulean night
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accurate

thorny edge
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does harvesting more seeds at once make a difference ? Like i have some seeds in a plot that are 7 and 9 cycles should i wait 2 additional cycles on the 7 cycle to harvest them all at once?

slender temple
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@thorny edge more life force and more crafts

thorny edge
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@thorny edge more life force and more crafts
@slender temple So i should try and harvest an entire plot in one go and also do multiple plots if possible, right?

slender temple
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Up to you

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Doing it in map is better

thorny edge
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Doing it in map is better
@slender temple oh yeah for sure always do it in map sorry forgot to say that

sharp iron
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Just to make sure my math is right and I know how the mechanics work,
Tier 3 seeds that produces 400 life force, with the "produces 150% more lifeforce" effect from a fortune bulb = 100 lifeforce, so 2 successfully grown tier 3 seeds will give me enough life force for a Horicrafting station, right?

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1800 lifeforce is what I need for a station, right?

sharp iron
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Okay, I should have just barely enough lifeforce even without the fortune bulb, so I'll definitely have enough with a Fortune bulb slapped down. I'm good.

coral garden
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@sharp iron u didnt account for the other bonuses

sharp iron
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What other bonuses?

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Oh, I wrote down 100 when I meant 1000

coral garden
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mouse over your collector

white hull
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why do my dispensers keep coming off?

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i have the life force needed

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like 50 storages full yet it keeps going off

native sonnet
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just visual bug

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it should still be dispensing/growing

grim steppe
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is there a way you can upgrade a seeds tier

native sonnet
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trade with other players; or plant them and harvest

grim steppe
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appreciate it

glass spade
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does the level of homunculus seed matter for essence change?

modest condor
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so how exactly do i read this

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if i want to set it up

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or rather where do i even start

devout osprey
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C collecotr, P pylon, D dispenser

modest condor
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if im only planting t1 seeds for now then where should i start?

devout osprey
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then you can honestly place them where you want

modest condor
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well id like to follow this and not take everything down later

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when i expand

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is there a particular portion here that is dedicated to t1 and 2

devout osprey
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top right is t2+

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all the lonely C's are t1s

modest condor
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by that you mean the cluster of 3 C in the bottom left?

devout osprey
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and purple and yellow next to that

modest condor
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right

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ok thanks

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ill see how this goes

violet nymph
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@sharp iron Map IIQ has some effect on Lifeforce (although it's not as much as the displayed IIQ.)

sharp iron
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Huh. Didn't know that.

coral garden
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All the bonuses are on your collector

sharp iron
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So going to a map and entering the grove in that is always better than going to the grove from the waypoint directly?

native sonnet
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if u can handle the content with the mapmods /sure u wont burn all portals, yes

wise pilot
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Do people really only use 3 hortis for each color? I

velvet palm
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people store them in stash tabs

coral garden
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3?

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i have 3 tabs so far and im using alot

patent canyon
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no idea why would you sort them for colour

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if you want to have some kind of order then separate augs/annuls from the rest

wise pilot
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Its easier to just set em and forget em Imo so you don't have to putz around with em while you're mapping

frail kayak
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yeah I cant be asked to think "is this a purple seed craft this guy wants?" when I'm using the benches. I take it out, throw it on the ground, craft, rinse repeat the next 7 benches he wants, and then just link them up to whatever

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in the end it makes 0 difference if your colors are mixed up in your tabs

coral garden
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If u set and forget u are wasting space

wise pilot
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I still have room for 9 t1 plots and 3 t4 plots.

coral garden
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I left 4 empty spots just to randomly plonk down stations for crafts

lean ridge
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so with that stickied layout the T2's go in the plots top right marked with all the 4's?

devout osprey
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@lean ridge yes

tame fiber
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Gm everyone does anyone care of I post a pic I had a very successful night with harvest last night

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I kinda wanted to show it off a little

coral garden
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Theres a channel for showing off

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This is for mechanics qn

haughty harbor
sharp iron
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Do you have to put done a Lifeforce Flower immediately before selecting Harvest?

versed marlin
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Any buds, flowers or blossoms need to be down before you activate the collector to spawn the mobs to apply to that field

sharp iron
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Okay. So wait for my stuff to grow 100%, place down the Lifeforce flowers, then harvest right after I placed them?

coral garden
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Yep

sharp iron
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Thanks

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Trying to get my horicrafting station

coral garden
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From t2 seeds?

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If u just started getting stations i suggest skipping most crafts alot of them arent as valuable as storing 3 crafts

sharp iron
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No, I have 2 tier 3 seeds in there

coral garden
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For e.g exchange 3 alt for 3c u spend like 500 lifeforce

sharp iron
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I actually think I did the math and found that I can get the station without the fortune flower effects, but I'm not taking any risks.

coral garden
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U really dont wanna spend lifeforce on easy to get stuff

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U want alot of stations

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Basically all t2+ plots should be done with the red flower

sharp iron
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Are the flowers not one-use?

coral garden
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Yep one use

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Well each charge is one use

sharp iron
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Ah

coral garden
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U will get alot of those flowers as u do t2+ seeds and oshabi

sharp iron
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I've been using t2 seeds for awhile

harsh moon
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Huh, I grew a influence seed before i realized how valuable it was. If i use it on a item will it replace the mods already there?

patent canyon
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it wont

half sequoia
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fortune or horti buds for spamming t1 seeds?

modest condor
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which seed gave these, couldnt seem to find one. or im misunderstanding the modifiers descriptions

light adder
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wild chieftain grain

modest condor
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tyty

light adder
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t2

modest condor
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sweet

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shouldnt be too bad to get then

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is it guaranteed

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if you plant it

devout osprey
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iirc yes

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100% to get any infuse

modest condor
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ty

violet nymph
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anyone have the layout with the best way to do stuff? I still haven't set up my seed farm

modest condor
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pinned

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top one

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has a link

violet nymph
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and i remember exactly why I gave up on it entirely as a mechnic. time to see if my dumbass can set it up properly..

modest condor
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i figured it out without too much trouble and i wasnt exactly an expert

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youll probs do ok

violet nymph
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so disperser between every two pylons on the outside ring of the collector, right?

modest condor
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i cant say i remember exactly 😛 but the layout is there

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D for disperser

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and P for pylon

violet nymph
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nah fuck this, too much info. I'll just stay at 8 challenges. this is not my strong suit.

modest condor
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can always watch a vid

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but either way gl

violet nymph
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I can't seem to connect my pylon to my dispersers?? only the main planter?

copper kernel
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is it in range

violet nymph
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yeah, it's right next to it

copper kernel
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pylons have a cap on amount of things they can connect

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which is 4

modest condor
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yo i just added an influence modifier to my item via harvest but didnt get the challenge progress

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any idea what the problem is

native sonnet
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did u add influence "MOD" or did u added "influence" to the item

modest condor
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guess it needs to be a mod then

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ffs

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didnt realize there was a difference

native sonnet
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u werent the first to mistaken those 2 , haha

violet nymph
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I did it! hell yeah!!

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my seed farm is all set up, just in time for me to go to bed

harsh moon
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what is the benefit of adding influence to a weapon or armor if you already like the current mods on it?

timid geyser
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Besides a few unique items that scale based off influence gear. Nothing but a cool background

harsh moon
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huh

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fair

half salmon
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if i have an item full of attack mods (open prefix) with cannot roll attack mods on it, and craft "non-attack add attack" could the new prefix be an attack mod? or will it respect the 'non-attack'?

native sonnet
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well, the remove nonattack will first remove the "cannot roll att" mod itself, then add attack mod

half salmon
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so you think it will be able to slam a normal attakc mod?

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the reason i ask is because i know previously you could suffix-> prefix with "cannot roll attack mods" on bows to force +gem

half salmon
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tested, doesnt work

violet nymph
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Hope 3.12 is more balanced when it comes to reward

slender temple
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This channel will get renamed in three days?

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I look forward to the teasers. Hopefully can start thinking of (a) build archetype(s) when we see what the new league content is like

shell turtle
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Why is harvest so confusing

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Wait new league start in 3 days??? I just started this league yesterday

wet plaza
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no thats just the announcements

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you have 2.5weeks

slender temple
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I wouldn't say 2.5 weeks

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Two weeks

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This ends on the 14th

violet nymph
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i think this is the winner tbh

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alice in wonderland, fairy-tale style league

violet nymph
slender temple
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ehhhh

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toozday is coming

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also

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is that countdown correct?

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oh i see

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it is sept 1 pdt . weird they doing it in not-their-timezone

rocky bridge
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@slender temple they normally do it on wednesdays for them i think; sep 1 is just a coincidence

slender temple
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cool

shell turtle
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How do we know if harvest will be included in standard league or just throw out?

copper kernel
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we already know it wont be

shell turtle
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Oh

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That’s ad

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Sad

barren crescent
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At least not right away

slender temple
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In the same form

mighty nest
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Is there a channel we can discuss the spoilers in?

copper kernel
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no

mighty nest
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Damn guess I'll have to wait for tomorrow then

copper kernel
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or use the reddit thread

compact junco
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oh so the new league is called Uknown POGHYPE

glass bane
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I'm hyped for it

coarse moon
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i see a cat w a bowtie and a monocle i am pleased

slender temple
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nice chair

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someone on reddit brightened that image

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there are some neat things in the back

smoky badge
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This is bs

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Avoided reddit but poedb ruined it for me

wet harbor
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poedb admin don't care

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they spoil with reckless abandon

radiant lance
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the spoilers have been flowing, i hear people are randomly posting them in twitch channels too

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so maybe just avoid all poe related places for now

slender temple
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youd think popular youtubers woudl show some decorum

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but no they have spoiled it too

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i wont say who

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anything to get likes i guess

native osprey
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mathil is policing his chat at least

slender temple
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leisure suit larry did a 20 minute reveal video

hollow osprey
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Without having to spoil since I intentionally spoiled myself, I'd say that pretty much all of the things Bex said is completely true

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including the laser part

slender temple
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we'll see tommorrow

cobalt falcon
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Hmm looks like pirate cat

sour mountain
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someone just showed me a bunch of spoilers for the new league

copper kernel
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spoilers bad mmkay

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but theyre posted in the pinned thread on the subreddit

sour mountain
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i will not post them

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but it looks p sick i guess.

fair prairie
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i will admit i'm a bit confused how people can cling to bex for spoilers but then get upset when they see other spoilers. Same is same yeah?

slender temple
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well the approved ones are 1) legit 2) just enough to get excited over without spoiling the whole thing

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also last league the "spoilers" were mostly fakes if you go back and check

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im just gonna wait 17 more hours

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one sleep some housework and work work

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then the reveal

violet nymph
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there's a difference between actual leaks and bex teasers

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i was spoiled by leaks and am slightly disappointed that i let it happen

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that being said i am quite excited for the trailer and ziggy video tomorrow

barren crescent
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its today templarSad

violet nymph
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i will have slept between now and the trailer lol

swift terrace
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I see some weird symbols on this book
(Blured on version of pic with "tomorrow")

spiral cipher
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yeah

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its confirmed 😦

glass bane
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Still lots we don't understand even with the spoiler stuff though so I'm excited to find out more and what's really going on.

lean jetty
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where

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oh god i saw it all 😦

drifting ferry
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we cant discuss it here? the leaks?

wet harbor
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🙉🙈🙊

drifting ferry
swift terrace
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I checked leaks (imgur album) and GOD i hope its fake

patent canyon
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in a good or bad way?

velvet palm
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they're bad

swift terrace
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i mean, not "skip, bad" but... bad

spiral cipher
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can we say spoiler shit in here

barren crescent
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no

swift terrace
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I mean, its only place in discord we can talk about it, but i gess all poe is in "no-spoiler" zone except spoiler tread

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So, its place opinion about spoilers, not spoilers

normal kraken
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seems too well put together to be a fake

velvet palm
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feels off for a real one tho

normal kraken
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they're way more convincing than the synthesis ones, and people said the same about those feeling off

velvet palm
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not to me

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they look unpolished

normal kraken
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I think that's just the image quality

autumn snow
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we pretty much know nothing about the league

normal kraken
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and it's poe, all UI looks unpolished in a vacuum

autumn snow
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even if the img are real

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poe UI is always shit

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so 😄

velvet palm
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not really

normal kraken
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moreso at leaguestart

worldly scaffold
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its 100% truers

heady finch
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POE leagues are not something i'm afraid to get spoiled about, knowing the plot beforehand does spoil my league experience

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but i guess there's others who think differently

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some were angry that the harvest league bosses was accidentally revealed by the first server kill message

coarse moon
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ngl that did strike me as odd

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they went through all the effort to have it labeled as "heart of the grove" everywhere else

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and then the server message just ruins it

fair prairie
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isn't there a way to turn off that spam? if not there should be lol

cunning blade
#

vanity will this be a farming league? a bossing league? any speculation?

livid lake
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yes

cunning blade
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yes

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boat league

slender temple
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I just want to hold RMB and see loot explosions

compact junco
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loot explosion on crit support, ez

heady finch
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well, that's the same as item quality support innit

cunning blade
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btw how does fire BV work on chieftain

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i heard its a thing but I've never really seen a recent guide for it

compact junco
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its firer

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than fire