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dusty remnant Jul 18, 2020, 10:47 PM

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im kind of confused because i have dispensers and tehyre connected/on/work for one side of the dispenser, but not for the other

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am i doing something wrong?

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because copy and paste isnt working for some reason

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https://i.imgur.com/GK4Avh5.jpg

rigid stream Jul 18, 2020, 10:49 PM

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the primal thats not working is looking iwerd

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are you sure its connected to the main network?

dusty remnant Jul 18, 2020, 10:49 PM

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yeah because its working on the wild t2s next to it

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you can see in the pic

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oh

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they need vivid dont they

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let me check its connection

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now its not letting me disconnect it because it says iits connected

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and activated

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i think i just need a new instance of the area hang on

rigid stream Jul 18, 2020, 10:51 PM

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it should work if its conected? i cant see the primal cable though

dusty remnant Jul 18, 2020, 10:51 PM

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yeah it works in anew instance

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i think thats a bug

compact creek Jul 18, 2020, 10:52 PM

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In garden my tier 1 saying I need 8 more fully grown seeds to trigger and fight them. I can see all the seeds are in place though. I can't plant anything more. Any idea what is going on?

dusty remnant Jul 18, 2020, 10:52 PM

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around how much does a full set of t2s yield, lifeforce wise?

rigid stream Jul 18, 2020, 11:08 PM

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uh depending on the ilvl and map quantity, 14-18k

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thats for 82-83 seeds and 100+ quant

dusty remnant Jul 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

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gotcha

hasty dawn Jul 18, 2020, 11:17 PM

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does tier 2 and higher seeds auto plant?

rigid stream Jul 18, 2020, 11:18 PM

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no

dusty remnant Jul 19, 2020, 1:48 AM

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does the level of the map where you open seeds impact drops/amount of lifeforce?

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like can i open t3s in a super juiced t1 map

surreal elm Jul 19, 2020, 2:24 AM

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the "change a gem into another gem with experience/quality" Does that work on corrupted ones?

crude eagle Jul 19, 2020, 2:32 AM

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does this mean it changes tiers

surreal elm Jul 19, 2020, 2:39 AM

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pretty sure no

rigid idol Jul 19, 2020, 7:01 AM

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does quantity effect seed drop on tier 2 3 4 farm?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Map Quant? Absolutely. Player quant, i cant tell

torpid flame Jul 19, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Hey guys, question regarding dispersion. The user interfacee tells me auto dispersion is activated, but for some reaseon i can manually disperse. When is dispersion happening?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 8:14 AM

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It Automatically Happens when you click a new cache

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So seeds grow with autoeisperse even though they are blinking

frigid tinsel Jul 19, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Do you have to replant and kill t4 seeds in order to reharvest the heart of grove?

torpid flame Jul 19, 2020, 8:17 AM

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@rigid stream isnt autoplanting only supposed to plant t1 seeds?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Yes autoplant Works only with T1. I misspelled and meant autodisperse

torpid flame Jul 19, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Thus, i dont have to klick disperse? Just leave the area and its fine?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Yea

velvet palm Jul 19, 2020, 9:15 AM

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@crude eagle it's a divine + blessed orb in one, rolls twice and picks the higher numbers of the two

hardy wren Jul 19, 2020, 9:18 AM

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is there a way to remove/revert one of the quality does not increase defences crafts?

violet nymph Jul 19, 2020, 10:33 AM

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is there a way i can get a +1 to maximum of power charges on a helmet ?

velvet palm Jul 19, 2020, 11:03 AM

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@violet nymph on of the conqueror influence mods is +1 pc and one of the vaal implicits is +1 pc

unreal axle Jul 19, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Do targeted annuls respect prefixes/suffixes cannot be changed? If I craft prefixes cannot be changed on this, then remove a chaos mod will I always remove the resistance?

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Apparently it respects the meta mods

timid minnow Jul 19, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Did the community settle on an optimal layout for the garden?

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I've just come back after 3 weeks

unreal axle Jul 19, 2020, 12:13 PM

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no, plus they only just released the large storage tanks. Optimal really just depends what you want to do. For most people just x3-x5 t1 harvesters for each colour then 1 harvester for each colour for t2/t3/t4s

timid minnow Jul 19, 2020, 12:15 PM

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ok fair enough

unreal axle Jul 19, 2020, 12:15 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/hcxkz1/my_final_garden_setup_googlesheets_link_in/

r/pathofexile - My final garden setup. GoogleSheets link in comments

4,871 votes and 691 comments so far on Reddit

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the setup at the top there from the t2/t3/t4 harvests you will want to build.

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it lets you harvest up to 3 t4 seeds of a type and 20 of t2/t3

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should be fine for normal play. It's only if you are buying a whole bunch of seeds that you would want something different.

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FWIW I have a very similar layout to this except I put the t2-t4 harvesters above where this guys primal harvesters are and add 2 extra t1's harvesters of each colour then leave the entire top section for storage. Let me tell you that is kind of overkill, unless you're quarry farming.

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or buying a lot of seeds

timid minnow Jul 19, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Can you connect pylons via a storage tank in the garden or does it have to be pylon to pylon?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 12:37 PM

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nope you cana nd should use tanks inbetween

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it saves space

timid minnow Jul 19, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Great, thanks

frigid holly Jul 19, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Can anyone tell me which (if any) Harvest crafts consume [catalyst-added] quality on jewelry?

sour fox Jul 19, 2020, 1:19 PM

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They certainly shouldn’t. The only one that it could make any sense for is the “remove a non-x mod and add an x mod” where the quality would increase the chance of removing a certain mod.
Example: for that Vermillion Ring a few posts above, if you had 20% attribute quality and used remove non-life, it could give the strength mod a higher chance to be removed than the chaos resist.
I don’t think it does get affected by any seed craft, but that’s the only scenario where it could make sense to apply.

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 1:24 PM

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im, im a level 89 casual player
all labs down, atlas OK, but garden 0...
Has someone a tutorial to create a harvest ?
my goal is to play with t2 seeds, and maybe t3

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i dont care if the guide doesnt handle t4, harvest bosses etc

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 1:28 PM

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There is No need for a Guide its Not that complex. You place the Higher Tier seeds around the collector and then place the dispensers they need, (they Tell you what they need), at the outer edges and Provide the Dispensers with lifeforce

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Done

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 1:29 PM

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isnt there some correct way to place the collectors etc?

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saw some excel at the beginning of the league

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https://expertgamereviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Path-of-Exile-Harvest-Garden-Setup-Easy-Example.png
what is the flow in this image?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Thats If you want to be efficient about it

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But it also Just works If you place your 24 seeds around the collector and Disperse them

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It Just requires more fiddeling and Looks like poop, but it works

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This is a decent Setup If you want a schematic

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Its Not perfect, but Works good enough

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:08 PM

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what cant we import, just like hideouts..

copper kernel Jul 19, 2020, 2:13 PM

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nope

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:15 PM

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its a nightmare to try to implement one..

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got 100 of each element, but the placement ...

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:16 PM

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setting that up, including removing everythign you have, takes not longer than an hour and you never have to mess with placing stuff aiagn

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:31 PM

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i play since beta, thats the most anti casual league i ever did

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way more than talisman or synth

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:32 PM

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what

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its the most casual friendly league we ever had

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every random bob can get mirror tier items in a day or two

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Its unfriednly for people who cant be arsed to play the league for sure

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But if you put even a little bit of time into it, basically an hour, you can print every item you want

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:34 PM

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man, i play since 7years, grinded 97+ many times, never complained about league mechanisms

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this one ? no tutorial, no explaination, sick item management

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:34 PM

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because you dont need one

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its dead simple

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:34 PM

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do you think its easy to get this in hand ?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:34 PM

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yes

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its exceptionally dead simple

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you place the thing, kill the mobs and then craft

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end of explanation

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:35 PM

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that was absurdly obscure to get how the things were going

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put a collector ? easy

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put the seed t1 shes gives ? easy

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after this ? the way dispersers work ? the storage capacity ? the range?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:36 PM

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the items tell you their range

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and dispersers just disperse lifeforce if they are connected to a tank

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and the tank gets lifeforce from collectors

copper kernel Jul 19, 2020, 2:36 PM

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wdym no tutorial

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oshabi explains what needs to happen

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:37 PM

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skipping dialouge doesnt help^^

copper kernel Jul 19, 2020, 2:37 PM

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and you have a hand holding experience on setting up a t2 seed

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and the seeds very clearly explain what they require

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:38 PM

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as i said, and idk why my message was deleted, my brain which plays this game since almost 7years cant figure out clearly to do this

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and im pretty sure im not the only one

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:38 PM

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because you cursed

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you cant use certain insults or your post ets deleted

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:38 PM

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insults were about my own person oO

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:38 PM

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yes

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:38 PM

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not everyone else

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:39 PM

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i thing there are basically 3? words you cant use, starting with F R and N

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what is it you cant figure out

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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honestly approx, everything
the schema i linked is 10x times easier to get than yours

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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no it has issues

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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but the way to mix the dispersers from the different lifeforces

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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very glaring issues

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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the way you occupy the limited space

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:40 PM

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and @copper kernel could you please unpin it?

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:41 PM

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everything in this seems unfriendly

copper kernel Jul 19, 2020, 2:41 PM

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unpin what

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:41 PM

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it has been posted way too much for how damaging it is

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the old setup that only uses 20/24

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:41 PM

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i never played game like factorio & such, and its clearly disturbing i feel

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:41 PM

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because thats something thats actively bad

jagged surge Jul 19, 2020, 2:42 PM

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i never complained about how PoE was farm and unlock etc

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:42 PM

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i can tell you the reason why that setup isnt good

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and the main isue is, if you see the higher tier collectors

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the dispersers are within the range of the collector, taking up space a seed can take up

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and every seed you collect, has a stacking bonus to your loot and lifeforce

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indicated by the harvest button

copper kernel Jul 19, 2020, 2:43 PM

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i know but i doubt its even a fraction of the problem you make it out to be

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:43 PM

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and if you waste space with dispersers, you hurt your bonus

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its as simple as that

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its like only running alva T2 rooms

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or not filling your metamorph bar

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or running your savehouse at rank2 instead of rank 3

copper kernel Jul 19, 2020, 2:44 PM

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its really not but whatever

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:44 PM

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well, its not as strong of a bonus, but same principle

copper kernel Jul 19, 2020, 2:44 PM

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more like its skipping 2 packs in your entire temple

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:45 PM

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it also makes the remaining seeds worse

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thats the problem

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if every seed in a 20 field gets 10 points, you would get 200 points. but in a field of 24, every seed gives 11 points, so you dont get 240, but you get 264, cause the seeds are better

woeful halo Jul 19, 2020, 2:47 PM

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I must be looking at a different layout than you, all 24seeds can be placed

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:48 PM

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📎 Unbenannt.png

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the red border is the collection range

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and the dipersers in the corner are in the range and take up a slot for seeds

woeful halo Jul 19, 2020, 2:49 PM

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that's not the layout that's linked in the pin though

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the one posted by Krieger

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:50 PM

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that cause bo unpinned the bad one Ouis posted

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the one in the link is fine

woeful halo Jul 19, 2020, 2:50 PM

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oh well that's that then

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 2:50 PM

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the one i linked just has more storage^^

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and a bit of a different arangement

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but its pretty much the same aside form that

spring vault Jul 19, 2020, 4:36 PM

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my first t1 ring crafted entirely on harvest. im loving this league

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rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Why ele.dmf catalyst

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And Not Life catalist

scenic sleet Jul 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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For some reason, only my blue T3 seeds are being fed. However, I have auto dispense on for all three sections (blue, yellow, and purple). Any ideas what's going on? For reference, I'm using the ISKMogul Adventures layout / esk213.

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I dont think 4% cold dmg are better than 2% Life and 14 flat Life

spring vault Jul 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I was thinking in life catalyst

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maybe i added the ele damange because it was all i had lol

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thank u

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yeah that's like 200x better

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rigid idol Jul 19, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@spring vault that insane all tier 1

spring vault Jul 19, 2020, 6:35 PM

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yeah harvest is so nice

muted falcon Jul 19, 2020, 6:40 PM

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When using a Crushclaw Bulb, is there a difference if you use a Harbinger Piece compared to a completed Harbinger Unique in what tier of Beachhead Map you get?

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I used a Splinter and got a Red one and before got a yellow one, so its probably random?

real ingot Jul 19, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Can someone explain harvest to me

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Idk if it's good or worth it or what not

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Its very strong and very usefull

real ingot Jul 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Okay

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Early on, do i use the crafts on some items or just store the life force? @rigid stream

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Uh you can start making lvling Gear from lvl 1

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The lifeforce you get later on is thousands Times more than what you get at the start

real ingot Jul 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Alright

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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A T3 blue harvest can easily go to 300k+ lifeforce

real ingot Jul 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Guess i can make this one item that has the right sockets i need better

rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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If you use some T4 a Million+

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You can even make 600+ pdps weapons fairly early

real ingot Jul 19, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Huh, so this new thing

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Cuts down time of grinding to craft

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That's actually really cool

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Btw, is there any way to make 6L somewhat reliably with this?

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@rigid stream Where do i place the extactors and pylons and stuff

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How can i move extractors and pylons?

clever lark Jul 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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ctrl click them back into your inventory and then put them down again

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no easy 6 links, but you will get some easy 5's while leveling

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Can you add a paid zana on top of this?

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rigid stream Jul 19, 2020, 8:56 PM

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You can Pick them.up via Ctrl.click

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And you can place them wherever when you start

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Later you want specific Setups but that doesnt matter at the start

vivid crag Jul 20, 2020, 12:02 AM

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yeah you can carc

floral gale Jul 20, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Is there a list somewhere of the affixes added by harvest crafts? Like Wild Thornwolf adds a random crafter modifier, here's the list of modifiers it can add

gentle scarab Jul 20, 2020, 4:42 AM

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@floral gale you have to figure that out on that item what it can roll by using CraftOfExile.

real rampart Jul 20, 2020, 7:11 AM

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will this re roll item?

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bold basalt Jul 20, 2020, 7:48 AM

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shouldnt

violet nymph Jul 20, 2020, 8:30 AM

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what items should i use for these 2?

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high cliff Jul 20, 2020, 9:42 AM

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what is the price of this? should i use it or sell it?

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thorny vortex Jul 20, 2020, 10:07 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/174994786917416960/731302778500022403 there is a separate discord for trading and a site you can list/check harvest crafts (i guess to save you some time the going rate looks to be 2.5-3ex but idk)

high cliff Jul 20, 2020, 10:08 AM

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ty ^^

rigid idol Jul 20, 2020, 10:17 AM

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@high cliff i sold for 3ex

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I usually look at what fated connection cost and low ball a bit since service

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Otherwise ppl can just go buy fated connection

velvet palm Jul 20, 2020, 11:25 AM

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There's literally a #price-check📉 channel

high cliff Jul 20, 2020, 11:29 AM

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@rigid idol yeah i went out and bought a shavrone with good rols and made it 6l and sold it xd

marble vapor Jul 20, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Any bigdick gardener who can help me learn t2 seeds?

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Is it correct that there are no targeted annuls (in Harvest crafting) for mana mods? Seems like an odd (and annoying) hole in the system, but I'm guessing it's by design. Any thoughts on why they may have chosen to do that?

velvet palm Jul 20, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Probably to keep SOME brick mods

rapid reef Jul 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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what ilvl do horti station show up for crafting?

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 1:10 PM

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When the Heart of the Grove matures (I'm currently only about 10 maps away) does it auto-spawn or is it something I trigger at any time after that when I'm ready to do so? If the latter are there any particular map mods to avoid that make the fight much harder?

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(as melee - EQ to be precise)

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Do it without map mods

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If your dmg isnt high enough you Just die

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Cause it has a growing Degen Zone Like atziri Trio or elder

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And you Spawn IT by clicking the tree once its at 100/100

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 1:59 PM

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@rigid stream Ok - so best to do it from hideout? Does that give you unlimited attempts if you die (on softcore of course)?

tawny pasture Jul 20, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Kinda

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Until the entire garden is full of degen I guess?

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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you can only start it from a map

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so you have 6 portals

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but if you are too slow, you die anyway

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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ah ok - does the difficulty depend on the map level or just on the mods?

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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i dont know, but i would do a non rolled map, her drops arent that special aside from the flowers

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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ok thanks again

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 2:03 PM

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what she does is, cage you in a ring of vines and you have to break out by killing it

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and during that phase the degen grows

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and if that takes too long, all ground is covered and you fail

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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I assume its not possible to get out of it with movement skills? (not that I expect too much difficulty in breaking it - my DPS is reasonable)

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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no

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and even if you do

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you die

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cause you cant kill it from outside

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and what stops the degen is killing a section of the ring

frigid holly Jul 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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fair enough

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 2:45 PM

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getting so annoyed with harvest. second time losing a t2+t3+t4 plot because i cant do enough dps with 800k spds zombies x11

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like what

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Most likely survivability issue, not dps

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 2:49 PM

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max block glancing blows. maybe i should just drop it

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glancing blows

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 2:55 PM

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That alone only normalizes your dmg intake compared to being at half cap block without glancing

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 2:55 PM

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so not worth dropping?

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 2:57 PM

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All I'm saying Glancing blows without a recovery shield isn't really a dmg reduction

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 2:57 PM

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it's glancing blows w/bone offering shared effect. so life gain on block

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 2:58 PM

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What glancing blows effectively does is not reduce total dmg taken. But to get you on-block effects with lesser block investment

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And enabling you to use that now free'ed up "investment" into other things

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so you gain more or less 300 life per block?

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 2:59 PM

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yeah after the 50% reduction from glancing

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 2:59 PM

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what..

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glancing does not have any healing reduction

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:00 PM

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oh yeah misread the you take 50% of dmg

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so, flat 644 life per block

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:00 PM

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don't you have reduced effect of offerings on you?

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or was that removed from necro?

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:01 PM

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still there 644 * .75

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483 life recover on block. hits over 960 dmg are a wash

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:02 PM

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If you could out heal everything, you'd be immortal

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And how much life you had?

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:03 PM

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yeah im thinking, pick up phasing from my watchers eye, drop quartz, pick up extra phys reduction flask somewhere. im at 5.9k life with phys dmg being the worst for me according to pob

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Idk what gear setup you have, but you can craft minimum endurance charges on rings&amulet

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:04 PM

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hmm yeah!

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Then you'd really need to look into getting +max ele res

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:04 PM

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is end a suffix?

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looks like it

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:06 PM

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I think all charges are

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but near 7k life should be enough of a pool with some mitigation. Do you have in combat recovery sources other than the onblock?

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:07 PM

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baron helm 1.88% dmg leeched as life

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Yeah you should be set once you get some phys mitig + max res

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:08 PM

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only thing is my pob only shows my life regen at like 280, minion leech is like 3k

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doesnt feel like im getting it

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Your leech is 20%/s on default and all existing leech is lost if your life hits 100%

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:09 PM

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gotcha

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:10 PM

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yeah... you should be more than set for harvests imo

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:10 PM

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yeah i just dont know why im dying so much

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Some of the T4 bosses do nasty dmg. Also some blue bird riders deal some insane dmg

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I think they are T3 mobs

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:10 PM

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yeah that seems to be the main culprit

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:10 PM

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they just ate my face off

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:10 PM

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t4 and tt3 combined blues

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it was also in t15

barren crescent Jul 20, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Yeah idk whats up with those bird riders

half sequoia Jul 20, 2020, 3:11 PM

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so im thinking just pop them in less nasty maps or something

raven hawk Jul 20, 2020, 3:25 PM

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is there any way to deterministically target certain harvest crafts within a group; e.g. if I plant a field of T1 Wetas, what I really want is "remove life" but I keep getting other stuff. Just RNG?

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 3:28 PM

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just rng, fortune flowers improve your dss of getting better crafts

deep arch Jul 20, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Does anyone know where I can find an efficient grove layout since the new update?

marble vapor Jul 20, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Any bigdick gardener who can help me learn t2 seeds?

split bobcat Jul 20, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Can anyone please tell me what seed I need to upgrade beachhead harbringer map?

fresh olive Jul 20, 2020, 4:58 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/552615024393322506/734406662533939200/tjll1l8stn851.png?width=665&height=666
guys can someone say where is best spots for flowers on this image?

deep arch Jul 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Do we still need that much stuff with the upgraded tanks and such?

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 5:17 PM

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No you dont, but it doesnt hurt

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The more storage you have the more you can save

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 5:20 PM

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For some reason my t2+ seeds are not growing. Can someone give me an advice on that?
https://prnt.sc/tldlx3

deep arch Jul 20, 2020, 5:21 PM

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wonder why the image isnt showing..

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It works in dms. must be a server setting

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 5:22 PM

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can you access the link?

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https://prnt.sc/tldo48

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auto dispersion is activated for quite some time

fossil falcon Jul 20, 2020, 5:27 PM

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hm, how many t4 seeds should one plant? not sure if i should save up like 10+ or go with 3-4 und fill up with t3 ... is there any benefit from big t4 field other than tons of juice?

ruby inlet Jul 20, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@torpid flame if the dispersers arent dispersing I've had that bug for a while. Needed to go in and disperse myself even with auto on

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@ruby inlet is there a known way to fix it?

ruby inlet Jul 20, 2020, 5:47 PM

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No afaik. Literally all my T3s I've had to manually disperse

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 5:53 PM

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@ruby inlet have the same issue

thorny vortex Jul 20, 2020, 5:56 PM

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image isnt showing cuz lightshot turned into jerks some time ago :( ... but are you sure its actually not growing? gonna guess it needed more than 4 cycles at start

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i feel like auto-disperse, uh, disperses at the end of some sequence...idk when that is exactly, but not necessarily when you go enter the garden/store some new energy etc.

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could be when you proc the next seed box (as thats when the seed would technically proceed 1 cycle and truly need the juice), or there is some other seed(s) siphoning off the energy first? just guessing

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saying all that, i still go and manually disperse mine cuz i like to be sure >>

frail kayak Jul 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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yeah auto disperse effectively disperses it as you click the next seed patch in a map

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so youll never see it disperse

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but assuming you meet the criteria its going to disperse

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@thorny vortex thx

frail kayak Jul 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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mouse over the individual seeds Amios, what does it say?

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is the check box for adjacent seeds checked?

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 6:07 PM

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https://prnt.sc/tldo48

frail kayak Jul 20, 2020, 6:07 PM

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if that one is, then the next issue is making sure the seed is actually in a disperser

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 6:07 PM

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requires 60 more units of purple

thorny vortex Jul 20, 2020, 6:08 PM

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https://image.prntscr.com/image/wxF33qmSSieWRBhR8jCWqw.png https://image.prntscr.com/image/Gw7OPABpS1CWrTL1c0UofQ.png if u dont wanna click ;p

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 6:08 PM

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ah thix

frail kayak Jul 20, 2020, 6:09 PM

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i mean they have progress so things are set up correctly

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its an 82 seed so go run a t15 map

torpid flame Jul 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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i have clicked disperse a few times

frail kayak Jul 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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see if it updates

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you have to run t15 maps for that seed to progress

thorny vortex Jul 20, 2020, 6:11 PM

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also check any other seeds that require wild energy maybe, there might be some sequence

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and by the time it gets to a seed, seeds before it already used up all the juice

frail kayak Jul 20, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yeah, if you only have 1k life force in tanks, but your total garden is using 1500 per cycle, some of the seeds just wont grow at all until you've fully grown some

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bottom line is if it has progressed at all, you just need to keep running maps at that level, while making sure you have life force in your tanks

indigo hound Jul 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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hi there

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where can i report bugs concerning harvest garden please?

marble vapor Jul 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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/bug I guess?

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Also anyone who can help me grasp t2 seeds please?

ruby inlet Jul 20, 2020, 7:02 PM

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What you need help with

marble vapor Jul 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Everything, regarding t2 seeds. Ive a harvest planner that I am trying to copy, however I cant figure out how to get the 1700 lifeforce for Hortification Stations

ruby inlet Jul 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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A full T2 farm gives you plenty for it

indigo hound Jul 20, 2020, 7:03 PM

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i posted on forum but as a PSA do not start oshabi during a seed encounter, makes the garden come back while fighting oshabi, dissapears after a while but still

marble vapor Jul 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Thing is; I cant get my shit to grow Meta 😄

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My t2 shit, that is

ruby inlet Jul 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Do you have a diserser in place?

marble vapor Jul 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Can I PM you?

ruby inlet Jul 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Sure

rigid idol Jul 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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so i been fighting t4 bosses for many times now

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when they go to summoning phase

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do i just try to kill as much as the mobs

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or hit on them(t4) when they become tanky 😛

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just wonder if there is a more effective way to kill them

rigid stream Jul 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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i heard its like drox

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you have to damage them to force them to switch phases

rigid idol Jul 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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ye i been attacking them only

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just wonder if there other way

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ty

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also literally blind when fighting tier4 lol

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especially 4 of them

viscid oriole Jul 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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does anyone know how the life force per seed is determined?

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Is it by item level of seed? Or do some seeds naturally generate more juice than others?

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im trying to bulk buy yellow seeds to get a bunch of juice for sprinklers so im unsure what my best buy is

sonic flower Jul 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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what i should craft next? I'm IceNova CoC Assasin,

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Yes STR is kinda low, but that's exactly Enough for my situation so i did not delete it

marble vapor Jul 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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How do I access my stores crafts in Horificator?

compact creek Jul 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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are t3 seeds planted next to t2 seeds?

thorny vortex Jul 20, 2020, 10:23 PM

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each seed will say what it needs to be planted next to such as "Requires 2 more adjacent Vivid seeds of at least tier 1 to grow"

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one thing to note is that these other seeds dont necessarily need to even be fed, and can be above the tier ("at least") that it states is required

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but yes i do believe t3 needs t2 ;p (or t3/t4)

blissful spindle Jul 20, 2020, 11:13 PM

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They nerfed seeds right? im 300 deep with no augment or removve/add

woeful halo Jul 20, 2020, 11:24 PM

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they did not

blissful spindle Jul 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

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... 350... :^( end me pla

quick parcel Jul 20, 2020, 11:59 PM

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for use seed on item we take care of ilvl or lvl requirement ?

thorny vortex Jul 21, 2020, 12:45 AM

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i believe its up to +10 of seed level? ilvl of useable item

devout osprey Jul 21, 2020, 12:46 AM

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+/- 10 yea

leaden storm Jul 21, 2020, 12:46 AM

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thought you could use higher seed on anything

devout osprey Jul 21, 2020, 12:46 AM

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it max outs at 86, any ilvl above 86 counts as 86.

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so ilvl 76+ seeds work on 66-100

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thats all items you find in maps

leaden storm Jul 21, 2020, 12:47 AM

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hrm

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i thought i've used an i83 on a quarry item

devout osprey Jul 21, 2020, 12:48 AM

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i could be wrong, this is what ive read/been told

half sequoia Jul 21, 2020, 1:17 AM

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have my oshabi ready, should I open in map or just out of hideout

devout osprey Jul 21, 2020, 1:17 AM

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open map, do t1 for easiest fight

half sequoia Jul 21, 2020, 1:18 AM

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any worthwhile loot that gets scaled off of map quant?

devout osprey Jul 21, 2020, 1:19 AM

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there are rares i guess, ive only done one kill

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dont remember if it even affected the loot. i did a t1 map

half sequoia Jul 21, 2020, 1:19 AM

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i might do it in a white t11 or something

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gl me

devout osprey Jul 21, 2020, 1:20 AM

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gl

half sequoia Jul 21, 2020, 1:30 AM

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wasnt too bad, got insta gibbed by some weird fire thing. only 1 portal used. need 2/4 conditionally though

devout osprey Jul 21, 2020, 1:32 AM

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when you get trapped by walls youre supposed to hit the walls

half sequoia Jul 21, 2020, 1:34 AM

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yeah figured that out the second go around, was focused on dpsing and chasing her down the first time

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not too bad, wanna see how hard the conditional ones are for the challene

lament timber Jul 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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is there a good way to sort your crafts with a 3rd party tool?

thorny vortex Jul 21, 2020, 2:33 AM

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you mean what you have saved in horticrafting stations?

lament timber Jul 21, 2020, 2:35 AM

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right

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like a tool that looks into a public tab and makes a spreadsheet?

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that you can glance at, instead of searching through a huge pile

thorny vortex Jul 21, 2020, 2:40 AM

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this site https://reforge.poe.dev/ is what many seem to be using atm, at least over on the trading discord. it will sort them from your tab on the site and also can give you a discord message if you were trading over there

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lament timber Jul 21, 2020, 2:41 AM

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that's the stuff!

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thanks

rustic shore Jul 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Whats the best maps/methods to maximise farming ilvl76++ seed?

night niche Jul 21, 2020, 5:26 AM

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can you use a corrupt gem for the 5% chance to awaken a support gem?

rigid idol Jul 21, 2020, 6:48 AM

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@sonic flower well when you reach min max on ice nova i dont think you use cwdt or immortal call anymore

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So str eventually be like not really needed.

fiery kite Jul 21, 2020, 7:26 AM

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guys, question - are there specific maps that drops specific seeds like divination cards? Or it is totally random.

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 8:40 AM

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random

sharp vortex Jul 21, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Someone knows if multiple flower buds or whatever of the same type stack? or only one of each?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 9:42 AM

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only one per type

hasty perch Jul 21, 2020, 10:14 AM

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T9 strand is super easy to sustain from what i tried with favorite map and putting 4 stones on the other regions

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And well strand is a straight line and you can't miss the seeds

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So pretty solid for 76+ farming

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 10:15 AM

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does it sustain with alch and go?

median trench Jul 21, 2020, 12:10 PM

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how or where do you sell harvest seeds?

velvet palm Jul 21, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Seeds? Same as everything else

outer sphinx Jul 21, 2020, 12:40 PM

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I’ve yet to do a single grove but I’ve saved every seed I’ve ever gotten. What seeds should I bring to my first grove?

haughty leaf Jul 21, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Are you looking for specific crafts on your gear?

whole steppe Jul 21, 2020, 1:44 PM

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my storage tank still got lifeforce, but my seed shows requires XX more . any idea?

void wing Jul 21, 2020, 1:46 PM

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If your dispersers are set to auto, then even if it red it should progress when you click the seed cache.

whole steppe Jul 21, 2020, 1:48 PM

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ya. set to auto. so it is not a problem?

outer sphinx Jul 21, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Ok I planted a crap ton of seeds. I’ll run a few more maps when I get home and see if they become harvestable.

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@haughty leaf I was lucky enough to find seeds that apparently will give me socket link crafting. I’m hoping for 5 and/or 6 link crafting but obviously most likely will just get two socket linking. 🙂

past badger Jul 21, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Highly unlikely a 5 or 6link

wise pilot Jul 21, 2020, 3:15 PM

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5 links are pretty common. I had to start juicing them once I got 4 saved on benches

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Once you hit red maps anyway

celest atlas Jul 21, 2020, 3:32 PM

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https://iw.gy/lcSXGc @rigid stream i tried to have the lower middle with the 5k tanks and the sidetanks are smaller 1k overflow tanks .. also i only want lifeforce to come in at the start of the 5k and go out on the "other" end .. so the representation if the 5k tanks should alsways show you "how much" lifeforce you have

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also still not sure about my 2x2 setup for T3-T4 never tried but i thought i would never run so many different colors at once that i would need all 3 colours .. so you only need to change the collectors to the right color

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i got like 2-3 5 links from a 100 but no luck on a 6-link and ended up just buying a fated connection

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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That Higher Tier Setup is wild

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Thats a Ton of Things crammed into Very tiny space

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Question: how many advanced storage tanks do I really need now? Looking to get rid of this 45 per color lag monstrosity I currently have, not sure what the max lifeforce is I'd need to account for.

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Uh you want... At least 10 5k

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Probably more Like 20

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Per color

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A full T3 harvest eats 2500 per color for 12- Turns? Thats Close to 30k from 1 field

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If you use 2 you need 60k

celest atlas Jul 21, 2020, 4:43 PM

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uuuh+

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 4:43 PM

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And If you get some T4 Close to 100k

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 4:58 PM

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100k really lol

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so absolutely no more than 20 per color would ever be needed, no matter wht?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Nah you can use more

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It makes you less reliant on recharging

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But, you need roughly 100k to Farm comfortably

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Without having to constanrly recharge

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Thats with very heavy Farm casea though with T3 seeds

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I mean if I got by ok enough with 45 normals of each, I certainly won't need 40+ advanced? that's 16x more storage...

celest atlas Jul 21, 2020, 5:05 PM

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i got like 5 atm .. dam i def. need to bread more .)

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@rigid stream how many t1 collector do you use 5 of each color enough ?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Absolutely, i use 4 T1

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You wont get enough seeds to fill Out more

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Even 4 is pushing it, 3 is normally enough

vast gazelle Jul 21, 2020, 5:14 PM

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i need to redo my garden at some point, its super messy

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:25 PM

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@vast gazelle doing that right now:P

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also super laggy as every single space is filled with something

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I have currently Like 60k wild storage and i Ran into issues where i Ran Out of wild Juice because i Had a T3 vivid and T3 primal field, which were eating over 5000 lifeforce per turn

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:26 PM

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so thinking 3 t1 stations of each, 1 t2+ station of each, and like 15-20 advanced storage spread around. Want tons of walking room, surround each high tier plot with blossoms, and maybe get more than 5fps

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@rigid stream eesh really? so definitely need like 20 advanced to cover everything possible?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Ye

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I usually only do 1 t4, 4t3, and rest t2 in the big plots

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Its 110? I think? For a 83 T3

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And Like 250/400 for a T4? Not Sure about T4 exactly

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:29 PM

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eh I'll just fill what I can with big storage and hope for the best:P sick of running into my walls of baby tanks.

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I need more big Tanks mhm want to get 200k storage

vast gazelle Jul 21, 2020, 5:36 PM

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for me i think i just now started being able to reliably farm t2 seeds

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never had enough banked prior to that to quickly grow em so

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@vast gazelle blossoms/flowers do wonders there, if you have the storage.

vast gazelle Jul 21, 2020, 5:39 PM

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yeah, im probably gonna sell those to fund upgrades on my dex stacker though

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:42 PM

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or - utilize them to farm more crafts to sell to fund upgrades on your dex stacker:P

vast gazelle Jul 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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true

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im just dum when it comes to crafting

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and i get nervous investing in high dollar items

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because what if i misprice, no one buys it, then no one later wants the thing i made

violet nymph Jul 21, 2020, 5:47 PM

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literally my life right now, sitting on 100ex+ of crafted gear that hasn't sold in weeks, dropping price daily hoping it's not completely worthless:)

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you can sell the crafts themselves, though, and never have to touch an item fyi. I made some insane profits doing this, actually kind of fun as well.

outer sphinx Jul 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Is there any way to buy collectors on the trade market? I cannot find them...

boreal helm Jul 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Do they have an eta on when the Oshabi fight will be fixed? I got stuck on the outside of the wall and couldn't dps it, so the map got blanketed by degen, and she just kept on teleporting in the middle so I legit never saw her again unless I sprinted across the degen

ruby inlet Jul 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@outer sphinx I dont think you can do that, but they're easy to make

jovial pawn Jul 21, 2020, 7:22 PM

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If I enter a map with +120% item quantity and then go into my sacred grove and harvest does that apply to the amount of seeds dropping?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Yes

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There is Always a range of course, but from what i gathered over thousands of seeds, map quantity affects the Drops

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Player quant i cannot Tell, its hard to test

sharp iron Jul 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Guys I need help. I just started Harvest and I clicked the machine in the grove while holding CTRL, which made it disappear. How do I complete the "activate the Collector" mission now?

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I think I soft locked myself by accidentally removing the collector.

autumn snow Jul 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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it's in your inventory

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@sharp iron

sharp iron Jul 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Nevermind, I figured it out

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Yeah, I found it

still turtle Jul 21, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I got some Pylons to connect some stuff in garden. I guess there is some youtube to explain stuff for this right?

ruby inlet Jul 21, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Googling harvest tutorial I used the first video result

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Uh Just connect Things according to what oshabi wants to learn how it works. After that Grab a Picture and Copy that Layout

worthy turtle Jul 21, 2020, 9:52 PM

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why won't my t2 seeds grow? I planed some seeds. t2. spawns lvl 83 monsters.
running maps, monster lvl 77.
is it not an 8 level difference for t2 seeds?

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or what am I missing? all other seeds grow as expected.

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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it never was an 8 lvl difference

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its more like a 4 lvl difference

worthy turtle Jul 21, 2020, 10:38 PM

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ah. took info from here. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/hdieq4/tier_2_seeds_not_growing/

Guess it is 4 lvl difference after testing it.

r/pathofexile - Tier 2 seeds not growing?!!!

0 votes and 2 comments so far on Reddit

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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do you only get 1 shot at Oshabi's fight? do you need to rerun 100 maps if you die?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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yes

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I don't see how that's not ridiculous lol

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how hard is the fight? couldn't find a single guide anywhere

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:49 PM

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if your dmg isnt bad its a fairly easy fight

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if your dmg is not good though, its impossible

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it has a medium strickt dps check that turns the whole area fatal if you fail ir

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:50 PM

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which part would that be? the walls?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:51 PM

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yes

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if you dont get out fast enough the degen zone will cover the whole grove and you cant continue

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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if I'm not one shoted offscreen, I can do A7 Sirus in about 2-3 mins

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so i'd guess it's enough?

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does that degen stay for the entire fight?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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no, killing sirus doesnt equal good dps

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and yes

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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can't believe how little info on it I could find haha

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:53 PM

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the degen is permanent

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and she is fairly mobile

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:53 PM

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that I saw

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:53 PM

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the is less stationary than sirus

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:53 PM

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pob dps is 2.7-3m

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:53 PM

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more like buggy shaper from last league, where you only have a few seconds untill she moves on

strong mauve Jul 21, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Can the Harvest "add implicit to a crimson, viridian, or cobalt jewel" be used on a synthesised crimson jewel?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:54 PM

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no

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it will delete the synthesis implicit or not work at all

strong mauve Jul 21, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Well, yes, those are the only two options; I was hoping it would remove the synthesis implicit

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however, I don't actually have the item on hand to test (was deciding whether to buy one)

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:55 PM

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pretty much all synthesis implicits are better than the new jewel implicits

strong mauve Jul 21, 2020, 11:55 PM

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not for me

spice ruin Jul 21, 2020, 11:55 PM

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think 2.7m dps is enough?

rigid stream Jul 21, 2020, 11:59 PM

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probably? depends a bit on your sustain and if you need to ramp or not

spice ruin Jul 22, 2020, 12:02 AM

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don't think so

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impale cyclone

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with about 2k leech per second

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I'll give it a shot 🙂

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appreciate the info!

sinful oxide Jul 22, 2020, 2:37 AM

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what does rarity/quality do vs the juice and seed drops?

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if it affects them at all

fossil falcon Jul 22, 2020, 3:14 AM

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do the t2 seed drop depend on the t1 seed or are they random .. same for t3 seeds from t2 seeds ... are there t2 seeds that only drop from specific t seeds or is it comletely random?

hasty perch Jul 22, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Nothing changes

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It's just now influenced

fossil falcon Jul 22, 2020, 9:10 AM

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does the add synthesise mods overwrite normal implicits like the initial spell dmg on wands?or lab enchants?

velvet palm Jul 22, 2020, 9:11 AM

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It overrides implicits

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Enchantments are not implicits

sinful wave Jul 22, 2020, 9:31 AM

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can any one help me with harvest layout im trying a bigger one and im stuck

odd cloud Jul 22, 2020, 11:59 AM

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Can I augment magic items with new modifiers or I have to get them to magic first?

honest egret Jul 22, 2020, 12:31 PM

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rarity rules still apply

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magic can have 1 prefix, 1 suffix
rare can have 3 of each

whole steppe Jul 22, 2020, 1:51 PM

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disperser takes from storage tank right?

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got quite a number of lifeforce but my disperser doesn't do anything

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half sequoia Jul 22, 2020, 2:05 PM

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have they patched/changed the thing where you could craft a resistance to an item then swap it to an actual res?

bitter sail Jul 22, 2020, 2:46 PM

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HI guys. Change a Harbinger Unique or Unique Piece into a random Beachhead Map. Exchange of what uniq item will be the most valuable ?

eager charm Jul 22, 2020, 4:12 PM

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#1┃looking-for-group @autumn dragon

frigid holly Jul 22, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Can anyone point me at a table or site that gives craft option probabilities arising from the various seed type (right now I want to get a handle on how rare an outcome targeted annul of life is from vivid weta seeds, but in general good to know which are rare and how much so)...?

gleaming peak Jul 22, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Do we know for sure if item quant affects seed drops?

rigid stream Jul 22, 2020, 6:55 PM

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Map Quantity for T2? Absolutely

gleaming peak Jul 22, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Im talking just from the cache

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Ive heard conflicting things

rigid stream Jul 22, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Map Quantity for T1, its hard to say, i dont have a concrete answer. It seems to have an effect but its hard to Quantify

gleaming peak Jul 22, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Thanks anyway

rigid stream Jul 22, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Player quant for T2+... Hrm.... Maybe

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I Tested it for a while, it seemed to be better, but map Quantity already has a fairly.large effect

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So its Not easy to make Out if it Works or Not

gleaming peak Jul 22, 2020, 7:04 PM

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So the thing I need to know basically is if youre speedfarming maps just to grab the cache and sell the t1 seeds does alching the maps yield more seeds

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In my limited anecdotal experience its seeming like alched maps drop more t1 seeds

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But someone else in my guild is saying that running non-rolled maps is the same for them

rigid stream Jul 22, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I think Higher Quant is better, but thats purely anecdotal. I noticed that when my alched Maps only returned AVG of 18 seeds and i remembered that my Well rolled Maps have 30+ fairly often... But i dont know If thats actually true

gleaming peak Jul 22, 2020, 7:08 PM

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I dunno I just did a white map and got a shit ton

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so maybe it really is just based on area level

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The person that pitched this to me basically says that the only factor that affects seed drops from the caches is area level

wooden girder Jul 22, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Guys is there a list what can you get from each kind of harvest craft? ex. I wanted to removed lightning dmg from ring and 'remove lightening modifier' said that there is no lightening mod on this item. So I kinda confused.

tawny pasture Jul 22, 2020, 7:13 PM

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prerssing alt ingame or poedb or craft of exile

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its not based on harvest craft but on the tagged mod

violet nymph Jul 22, 2020, 7:14 PM

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what's the lightning mod

wooden girder Jul 22, 2020, 7:16 PM

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@tawny pasture thanks 🙂 didn't think about an alt option

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and the mod is %lightening damage

rigid stream Jul 22, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Its possible yea

lucid tulip Jul 22, 2020, 10:03 PM

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hey where do I find some good layouts?

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I thought i had a good one, but I think it's too messy

merry grove Jul 22, 2020, 10:53 PM

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i just updated mine, haven't rebuilt yet but its based on the one i designed the other night but .. upgraded more haha

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emphasis on having a clear path to enter every growing area, as well as the ability to enhance even t1 (to remove reforge results) with a single seed that is adjacent to all 3 fields, even vivid

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but i'm probably movin that storage on the bottom of vivid over a bit to open those spots for enhancers so that it has extra spots like wild/primal

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otherwise, each color.. 3 fields growing t1 max, 1 field growing t2 max, 1 field growing t3 max

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20 horticulture stations per color saving up to 60 crafts

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these can be replaced by pylons until the required stations are built

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horticulture stations are chunky and slow to try to move through but the setup has them split by pylons which you can easily run along, to keep with the theme of easy movement

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here it is with the last bit of changes

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📎 unknown.png

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https://iw.gy/87kLpS

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if for some reason you really hate horticrafting stations you can skip them and just make a pylon bridge

lucid tulip Jul 22, 2020, 11:06 PM

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that looks insane

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thanks

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I checked out tarkecat's guide and then did my own layout

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I kinda wanted to make my dispersers more efficient

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https://iw.gy/e9jLmB

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the plan is not fully formed....i have a few more pylons

mint basin Jul 22, 2020, 11:09 PM

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do i really have to do 100 maps to spawn harvest boss?

merry grove Jul 22, 2020, 11:16 PM

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yeah i wanted to be able to do everything with lots of stuff growing and still be able to move around easiliy

vast path Jul 22, 2020, 11:58 PM

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hey can someone link me to that spreadsheet people are talking about with info about seed types and what they do

merry grove Jul 23, 2020, 1:09 AM

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📎 harvest_cheatsheet.png

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not a spreadsheet so you may be talking about something that has more specific breakdowns

placid egret Jul 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I'm looking at all this farm simulator stuff... yaaa... this league isn't for me.

sour mountain Jul 23, 2020, 1:25 AM

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just sell all your seeds then

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you can get loaded doin ghtat

placid egret Jul 23, 2020, 1:26 AM

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That's a good idea. TY.

thorny vortex Jul 23, 2020, 1:27 AM

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can also just go here https://poedb.tw/us/HarvestSeed and control+f

placid egret Jul 23, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I like leagues where the concept is simple. Kill endless swarms of stuff. Doesn't need to be super creative. Just needs to be fun.

thorny vortex Jul 23, 2020, 1:28 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

serene dune Jul 23, 2020, 1:47 AM

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how do you guys go about farming and selling seeds? max stacks then sell?

sour sail Jul 23, 2020, 3:22 AM

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so im trying to garden my T2 seeds but they arent gaining grow cycles. could someone help me troubleshoot

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i can screen share you to show you that i have it all set right

silver matrix Jul 23, 2020, 3:38 AM

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what is the level restrictions for growing seeds? What level seeds can I grow grinding quarry?

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I got lvl 69 seeds from quarry, but they aren't progressing when I run it...

merry grove Jul 23, 2020, 5:03 AM

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you cant grow low level seeds in high level areas

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area must be, i believe, no more than 5 levels lower than your seeds

novel trench Jul 23, 2020, 5:20 AM

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what's the lowest seed level that i can use to craft on ilvl86 items 75/76?

velvet palm Jul 23, 2020, 5:34 AM

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76

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10 lvl difference

novel trench Jul 23, 2020, 6:11 AM

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tyvm

violet nymph Jul 23, 2020, 9:07 AM

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anyone else have like the worst luck with raw currency frops?

woeful halo Jul 23, 2020, 9:11 AM

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nope never, because I don't worry about what doesn't drop

edgy ridge Jul 23, 2020, 10:05 AM

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what does change beast unique with aspect to lure do?

rigid stream Jul 23, 2020, 10:27 AM

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📎 Unbenannt.png

edgy ridge Jul 23, 2020, 10:35 AM

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thanks you for the pic tunbart

white vapor Jul 23, 2020, 12:57 PM

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Wish there was a harvester like in farmville, so I do have to race around with 10fps trying to tap them all in 5 secs

velvet palm Jul 23, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Or place them in a better position

floral spade Jul 23, 2020, 6:36 PM

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what should i use my flowers on? i dont want to waste them so what do u think is the most profitable way to use them?

still turtle Jul 23, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Ok so I am leveling, level 35 or so. Should I just do harvest wahtever or should I already work on some layout?

celest atlas Jul 23, 2020, 6:51 PM

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wowo just noticed the winged scarab challenge sound kinda expensive

rigid stream Jul 23, 2020, 7:20 PM

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It is

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I would skip that probably

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You need 18 winged scarabs thats Like 60+ scarab seeds, probably more

vapid gazelle Jul 23, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I've done 5 scarab crafts so far and only 2 hit

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Very sad :<

civic bear Jul 23, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Hello all I need small advice - I have dispensors turned to auto disperse but I still have to click each time - what I'm doing wrong?

rigid stream Jul 23, 2020, 10:52 PM

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you are impatient

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they automatically work

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its like starting a device with a timer yourself because you dont trust the timer works

civic bear Jul 23, 2020, 10:54 PM

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so I dont have to go in every time?

rigid stream Jul 23, 2020, 10:54 PM

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no

civic bear Jul 23, 2020, 10:55 PM

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OK thanks lets see in few maps 😄

rigid stream Jul 23, 2020, 10:55 PM

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as long as auto disperse is on, and you have lifeforce, it works

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and of course you run high enough maps that actually allow your seeds to grow

civic bear Jul 23, 2020, 10:56 PM

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thanks 🙂

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one last question that "bud" thing needs to be there whole growth?

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or I can plant it before harvest

rigid stream Jul 23, 2020, 11:00 PM

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just before the harvets

civic bear Jul 23, 2020, 11:05 PM

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thanks mate!

haughty jay Jul 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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i heard that harvest craft work on gear 10 ievels above the listed level is that true? so a level 69 craft would work on a ilevel 79 item?

rigid stream Jul 23, 2020, 11:47 PM

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yes

zenith zephyr Jul 24, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I need to make sure I understand something. Garden growth won't happen if you enter a garden from an area that is 10 levels or more lower than you? So if I'm in a level 75 map and I'm level 86 and I enter the garden, plants won't go through a growth cycle?

rigid stream Jul 24, 2020, 12:07 AM

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4lvls

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not 10 lvls

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so to grow an 83 seed you need to run at least 79

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10 is for crafts

zenith zephyr Jul 24, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Oh, okay. So it's based on seed lvl vs. map level.

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If entered from a zone, the Sacred Grove will be part of the instance you entered from, which means map modifiers and such will apply within the Grove as well.``` 

Read that on the wiki and got confused.

rigid stream Jul 24, 2020, 12:10 AM

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i dunno why someone wrote 10 lvls. But its not official so mistakes happen

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would be a bit silly to run T5 maps to get t15 returns^^

zenith zephyr Jul 24, 2020, 12:12 AM

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I think it doesn't apply to be 10 level under the zone, only over. So no running T1 maps when you're level 90 and getting any garden growth.

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But if it's based on seed level that's good. Otherwise, I'd be screwed. I'm level 86 SSF and don't have the gear to run maps much higher than T5.

rigid stream Jul 24, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Seedlvl

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83 seeds will only grow from 79+ 82 from 78+ 81 from 77+ and so on

sinful oxide Jul 24, 2020, 2:29 AM

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just wondering

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is this layout still the best? - https://iw.gy/Y283bT

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saw it on reddit before the storage update

versed marlin Jul 24, 2020, 4:01 AM

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There is no generic best layout, it completely depends how you want your garden to function. Different layouts are better for different goals

celest atlas Jul 24, 2020, 5:35 AM

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you need more t1 fields and maybe even a separate t2 to sustain the lifeforce needs of the higher once ..

sour mountain Jul 24, 2020, 6:04 AM

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imo just do mixed t2/3/4 fields

real kindle Jul 24, 2020, 6:11 AM

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this needs a lot more balance if this will go core

velvet palm Jul 24, 2020, 6:14 AM

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It won't

woeful halo Jul 24, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Though I can see some work on the crafting system as a whole,using Harvest as a reference

velvet palm Jul 24, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Make fossils usable again

real kindle Jul 24, 2020, 6:31 AM

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if u ask me it should go core , well most of it , with tweeks for sure , the reason is that it makes crafting a part of the game rather than something for the 0.00001 % of players who abuse the trade and group work , it also makes crating something u can work for and learn about and less tahn an rng thing where u have to slam remove anul 100000 times to get what u want . which makes crafting about currency purely and not worthit at all .

celest atlas Jul 24, 2020, 6:39 AM

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but not in this crappy form ... i never complaint too much about it coz they always said its just an experiement and will not go to core ...

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but i do agree with your point it makes crafting much more accessable for everyone

void wing Jul 24, 2020, 6:41 AM

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I'd go far as saying it makes crafting crafting.

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I think the bit that can go is remove X add X.

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Make anuls less targeted.

celest atlas Jul 24, 2020, 6:44 AM

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but it would all have to be integrated into the crafting bench .. e.g. all the craft you collect can be accessed there ... even if you do have a horticrux somethere to "store" it

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and by that i mean all .. even essences, fossil and so on ... so you have acentralized crafting place

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might need some work to still be organized and not feel to cluttered

real kindle Jul 24, 2020, 8:50 AM

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any way if they remove it entirely the game will feel bad next league , when u have to spend 1000 ex to craft one slot item minmaxed .like old days , it will be unattainable and players will feel the emptiness

slow cradle Jul 24, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Hello guys, sorry but what's the best layout for harvest please ?
Thanks and have a nice day 🙂

velvet palm Jul 24, 2020, 10:52 AM

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WhAt'S THe BeST LayoUt

wary isle Jul 24, 2020, 11:41 AM

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If you have nothing helpful or nice to say, say nothing at all.

pliant depot Jul 24, 2020, 12:01 PM

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What triggers being able to fight harvest boss? What makes the Heart of the Grove appear?

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Found it. Tier 4 seed growth

wet plaza Jul 24, 2020, 1:13 PM

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yeah harvesting one t4 spawns it the first time, then its 100 maps

velvet palm Jul 24, 2020, 1:47 PM

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after you kill it you have to harvest some seeds to fill... a thing... to 100%, I think it's something like 1k seeds? and do 100 cycles again after that

rigid stream Jul 24, 2020, 2:27 PM

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its not 1k seeds. it depends on which seeds you do

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a T3 field and a handfull of T2 fields and you are good to go

shut quarry Jul 24, 2020, 2:45 PM

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is there a randomise prefixes craft? or only reroll?

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or a list 😇

past badger Jul 24, 2020, 3:16 PM

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There is a list, just google it

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Cant remember the site, but there are a few iirc

eager charm Jul 24, 2020, 5:17 PM

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@vague pond #trading

marble vapor Jul 24, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Is there a smart way to auto/smart cast t2 seeds?

copper kernel Jul 24, 2020, 8:14 PM

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no

marble vapor Jul 24, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Damn it

real kindle Jul 24, 2020, 11:37 PM

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why htey dnt let us trade the horocrafting station , this is a lot of nonsence to make us have to use discord and 1000 programs to play thig game

copper kernel Jul 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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because they didnt intend them to be tradable

real kindle Jul 24, 2020, 11:38 PM

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doesnt matter what the first plan was , they always change to the better

copper kernel Jul 24, 2020, 11:39 PM

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considering no other benches are tradable

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theyre sticking with their guns

real kindle Jul 24, 2020, 11:43 PM

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they can make incubator similar to that of the beastry where u put a beast and sell the beast ,

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i need to know where is the page that i can sell crafts seeds etc

robust zinc Jul 24, 2020, 11:56 PM

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anybody have the most recent 'most efficient garden layout' chart? it's not in the pins

thorny vortex Jul 25, 2020, 12:30 AM

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most efficient really doesnt have much meaning. especially now with the increased capacity of tanks. most efficient is what works for you/what youre growing atm really...no real need to min-max every square of the garden due to space concerns now (or ever idk)

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have X amount of t1 spaces for each type, and X amount of plots for t2-t4 growing seems to be the basic gist

robust zinc Jul 25, 2020, 12:42 AM

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gotcha. I started this league late so I'm just now trying to fit as many plots in the garden as possible

summer valve Jul 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

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@robust zinc https://iw.gy/sPXf8b

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I made this yesterday and today.

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Its designed to have a dedicated area for horticraft stations, and a lot of storage as well as many plots for t1 activities, 3 tier 2s with interchangeable collectors, and 3 tier 4's with interchangeable connectors.

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It's highly tunable to whatever you need. There are some space optimizations if you need more t1's as well.

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But you can figure out those on your own. I genuinely doubt you'll run into limitations with the current seed rates with this layout.

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I also try to maintain straight connections as much as possible.

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I feel like there is an added benefit to the garden being modular as well as neatly organized so that you can easily unplug certain areas if you need to redesign it to fit your needs.

robust zinc Jul 25, 2020, 1:47 AM

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neat, thanks!

summer valve Jul 25, 2020, 2:11 AM

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No worries

dreamy pike Jul 25, 2020, 2:17 AM

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so on craft of exile it says +2 socketed bow skills is an "attack" mod however in game it doesnt have the attack mod.....so for harvest crafting which is it?

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i have the +2 now but dont want to accidently remove it XD

next epoch Jul 25, 2020, 2:18 AM

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craft of exile is wrong, the in game data is authoritative

dreamy pike Jul 25, 2020, 2:18 AM

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ok so im safe to remove attk add attk?

rustic shore Jul 25, 2020, 2:20 AM

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guys so for buds/flowers/blossoms they have a radius of 5. so in the garden is it 5 boxes to the left/right/top/bottom? like a box of 11 x 11 with the flower at the middle?

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x x x x x x x x x x x

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x x x x x x x x x x x

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x x x x x f x x x x x x

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x x x x x x x x x x x

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x x x x x x x x x x x

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is it like this?

summer valve Jul 25, 2020, 2:25 AM

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its 5 in each direction yes

rustic shore Jul 25, 2020, 2:26 AM

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sweet

summer valve Jul 25, 2020, 2:26 AM

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you can use the poe harvest planner site to confirm if you want to plan it first

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you can also preview it in game too

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just hover over any flower

rustic shore Jul 25, 2020, 2:30 AM

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the harvest planner doesnt have flowers, ive checked

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oh wait they did nvm my bad

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just gotta scroll down

summer valve Jul 25, 2020, 2:51 AM

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ye

celest atlas Jul 25, 2020, 5:35 AM

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thats what you call neatly organized .. its an ocd nightmare 😉 and a color nightmare too .-)

jovial drum Jul 25, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Do you guys suggest harvesting tier 4s on the sacred grove on hideout versus maps so there won't be a risk of running out of portals if I keep on dying?

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You can infinitely respawn on your hideout sacred grove right?

celest atlas Jul 25, 2020, 12:49 PM

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i did run out on t2 .. because those blue things are so fast already 😉 next time i will also try from HO

coral garden Jul 25, 2020, 1:01 PM

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@jovial drum if u can do it on a map with high quant for more lifeforce

ruby inlet Jul 25, 2020, 1:17 PM

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@coral garden last I heard Quant doesn't affect lifeforce but it affects everything else related. This changed?

autumn snow Jul 25, 2020, 1:53 PM

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It doesn't affect life force

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Life force is based on the seed level

rigid stream Jul 25, 2020, 2:32 PM

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both are correct

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map quant affects seed drops and lifeforce

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100%

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seed lvl and seed multiplier also affects lifeforce

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mapquant does not affect it lineary however, its probably sqrt, so 100 quant is ~40% increased lifeforce and 200% quant is 70% increased lifeforce

marsh summit Jul 25, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I have one collector for each seed color

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Is there a recommended farming setup or something?

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I’m finding it difficult to plant tier 2 seeds

clear tapir Jul 25, 2020, 3:38 PM

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hey guys, is killing harvest final boss worth it ?

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It seems like its not droppimg anything valuable

strong jasper Jul 25, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Why do my T4 seeds sometimes reset themselves? When they get to needing 0, 0, 0 of lifeforce, sometimes they need more, is that normal?

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I'm so confused

autumn snow Jul 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

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@strong jasper it's showing how much more you currently need for one cycle

strong jasper Jul 25, 2020, 8:21 PM

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@autumn snow Thank you sir. So I didn't know there were stages.

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I just thought it was one cycle 🙂

half current Jul 25, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Is there a most perfect way of doing the harvest mechanic?

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Like I just slapped the purple and the yellow extractors next to each other and kinda do all seeds I have as soon as they are ready

astral badger Jul 25, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Does seed ilvl affect the chances of getting rarer crafts like remove/add?

copper kernel Jul 26, 2020, 12:02 AM

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no

astral badger Jul 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

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So the flowers are the only way to try and get rarer crafts?

earnest root Jul 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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@astral badger to get better chances, yes. If I want a specific remove/add I buy lots of that seed that gives those mods. Like Hellion for physical stuff. And then use flowers, both horticraft flowers and fortune flowers to boost my chances.

merry grove Jul 26, 2020, 6:33 AM

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my garden design 2.0 has lots of space for enhancers icnluding in the t1 only fields and is designed to be easy to move around in

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https://iw.gy/4aYkLL

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📎 Raging_Garden_2.0.png

marble vapor Jul 26, 2020, 10:52 AM

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Anyone with a simple layout for a good garden? New player friendly

barren crescent Jul 26, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Aren't all the layouts about same simplicity, you got near identicals T3 growth areas for each color. Then some T1s and rest is how you tetris as much storage as possible.

dreamy rune Jul 26, 2020, 4:57 PM

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if a garden inside a map bugs out and there is no portal back from the garden to the map, is there a way to get back in the map?

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I guess relogging and using the portals in the hideout should be one way, but what if I use a portal for the hideout in the garden, I guess the map is lost 😄

thorny vortex Jul 26, 2020, 8:13 PM

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isn't it like, a pain in the ass fighting mobs in a garden so full of stuff? obviously the t1's just die, but i've had some hectic fights with higher tiers so seeing the ground seems nice :3

wicked pelican Jul 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Hi! First msg on this server... Are rare seeds map-tier gated? I.e. is it possible to get really rare crafts from t1 maps? (i'm aware of the ilvl vs seed lvl restriction tho)

rigid stream Jul 26, 2020, 9:17 PM

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It is possible to get rare crafts from lower Tier seeds

charred crane Jul 27, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Is there a tutorial on how use the flowers the best?

whole axle Jul 27, 2020, 3:25 AM

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@rigid stream not sure what you mean by lower tier

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@charred crane white+green is the important combo, IMO use it on anything that's likely to double the money you put in via the flowers

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I use white+green buds on valuable t1s

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t2s usually white+green+purple buds, unless it's something like a lot of crit then I go higher tier

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starting with t2 is where it's important to use purple

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higher tier purple on t3/t4 field and you're set for life on essence

pearl fossil Jul 27, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Hm.....upgrades:

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Wasn't sure if that existed or not

merry grove Jul 27, 2020, 4:24 AM

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@thorny vortex i specifically designed that with easy movement ways and storage all set out to the sides so movement is simple

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@barren crescent this one specifically makes space for enhancements etc. i'm actually working on 3.0 to see if what ways i may optimise it more, but this is pretty darn good. plenty of room to add more storage

spring vault Jul 27, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Pog

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warped python Jul 27, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Could someone used to building Groves check my grove out? It doesnt seem my juice comes all the way to my t2-3-4 plants. :/

abstract ice Jul 27, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Does synthesise an item remove the current implicit??

velvet palm Jul 27, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Yes

celest atlas Jul 27, 2020, 2:40 PM

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i really hate the crafting with harvest ... its a bit more aimful than simple annulment .. but it still removes the wrong thing ... or gives you a crappy t6 mod ....

thorny vortex Jul 27, 2020, 2:42 PM

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depends on many factors idk. it allows for much higher precision of targetting for many cases. many times can also allow you to reroll that t6 into a high tier

celest atlas Jul 27, 2020, 2:45 PM

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yeah but e.g. if you have 2 lighting its kinda hard to reroll the crappy t6 resist one

thorny vortex Jul 27, 2020, 2:47 PM

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trues...just random thought tho. could do stuff such as switch it to a different res, reroll that, then convert it back to proper res etc

celest atlas Jul 27, 2020, 2:52 PM

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yepp though of that too but those are kinda rare too .. and i dont trust the trade system ... and i already broke a few good starts because i forgot something and broke the item .. e.g. removed some good t1 to get a crappy t6 roll

wise pilot Jul 27, 2020, 3:11 PM

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It's good for crafting tri res life armor. But crafting weapons with harvest is still rng as shit

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 3:14 PM

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if you want an influence weapon? sure

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otherwise roll untill T1% and then fracture

autumn snow Jul 27, 2020, 3:15 PM

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hating targeted annulment vanity

void wing Jul 27, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Imo the super targeted anuls are what make harvest crafting so incredibly strong.

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 3:17 PM

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also you can roll the prefixes and then influence slam/reroll suffixes and influence slam again

autumn snow Jul 27, 2020, 3:17 PM

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"it still removes the wrong thing"

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I'm not sure what did you expect

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 3:18 PM

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get the exact item with high tier mods with little effort

autumn snow Jul 27, 2020, 3:18 PM

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it's already extremely strong compared to the normal crafting methods

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which is uber rng

void wing Jul 27, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I mean, normal crafting methods are utter garbage so.

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It's so rng it barely feels like crafting.

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 3:19 PM

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fossils are really strong

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fossils in several cases are even better than harvest crafts

autumn snow Jul 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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they're good up to a certain point

void wing Jul 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Fossils imo aren't really "crafting".

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But that's based partially on semantics.

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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they are?

void wing Jul 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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They are pretty good to create solid items, but still not "crafting".

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 3:21 PM

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try to make a +2 wand

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without fossils

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what was it again? 1.8 million C?

autumn snow Jul 27, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I mean... that's the only okay thing we currently have

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 3:22 PM

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same for an elder bleed weapon

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without fossils its a major pain

void wing Jul 27, 2020, 3:22 PM

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I agree they're good for creating good items.

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But I'm still vary of calling it "crafting". It's semantics like I mentioned.

worthy turtle Jul 27, 2020, 3:39 PM

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every few maps, my garden will stop auto dispensing. despite having correct connections and tons of lifeforce in storage containers, it still keeps flashing red on some seeds. this is random, and works sometimes, and not others. so I don't believe it's a layout issue, nor a storage issue.

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is there any visual bugs or known bugs with dispensers?

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all maps I run are t16

haughty jay Jul 27, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I know there is a max ilevel for harvest crafts is there also a minimum level, for instance will a level 83 craft work on a level 70 armor piece

sour mountain Jul 27, 2020, 3:45 PM

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there is no minimum level i dont believe

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i think you might not be able to give a low level item an influence, but that's about it?

ruby inlet Jul 27, 2020, 4:02 PM

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@worthy turtle FWIW my dispensers bug out all the time. I've had to just make a habit of dispensing whenever I pick up seeds cause theyll never auto

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 4:03 PM

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they alsways auto

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withh 150% accuracy

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unless you dont have lifeforce

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they disperse while the seed grows, not before the seed grows

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thats why the seeds are blinking with auto disperse is on, because the seeds themselves dont know the dispenser is there.

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and because the disperser never wastes lifeforce on auto, it only disperses when needed, not before

ruby inlet Jul 27, 2020, 4:18 PM

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I suppose yes if I plant the seeds perfectly the first time it works. The moment I change something about the setup while they're planted the auto doesnt work until the full field is harvested, so idk. Doesnt bug me all that much shrugR

thorny vortex Jul 27, 2020, 5:46 PM

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one thing that could mess people up a bit, ive been thinking, is that not understanding when the auto-disperse actually happens you could technically manually use the lifeforce elsewhere. when then auto should kick in then, on the next seed cache, you've accidently used the fuel those dispensers needed...idk

oblique panther Jul 27, 2020, 6:48 PM

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How rare is it to get the six link seed craft recipe if you buy a bunch of the blue t1 linking seed and fill up 3 plots worth at ilvl 76+?

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Eh you can expect about 1/1500

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Its Not common

wintry root Jul 27, 2020, 7:00 PM

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what level harvest seeds will there actually be a market for people to buy them from me?

thorny vortex Jul 27, 2020, 7:11 PM

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i want to say 76+

autumn snow Jul 27, 2020, 7:12 PM

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76 or higher

thorny vortex Jul 27, 2020, 7:12 PM

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they will be able to be used on all items, and also thats what poe.ninja is sorting by >>

wintry root Jul 27, 2020, 7:12 PM

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ok sounds good thanks

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guess ill just plant any i get before that

thorny vortex Jul 27, 2020, 7:13 PM

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lol, just reminds me...i dunno how often ive been disappointed seeing i had a craft saved i needed...only to see it was some low ilvl one ._.

final scarab Jul 27, 2020, 7:31 PM

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any guides out there on how to use the garden efficiently/optimal? There's many guides on how to set up the garden, but that's not what I'm talking about. It's the usage of it.

I see some with quads filled with horti-stations and I struggle to get enough LF to break in to T3 seeds. So what is the secret?

final scarab Jul 27, 2020, 7:49 PM

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please tag me in case of an answer. Chat is moving slow

ruby inlet Jul 27, 2020, 8:10 PM

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@oblique panther FWIW I tried that. Bought 1200 lvl 81 seeds, no 6L

oblique panther Jul 27, 2020, 8:22 PM

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@ruby inlet thanks for the info. Im getting the idea that its better to just 6L the traditional way. Buy it that way or use orbs or crafting bench

autumn snow Jul 27, 2020, 8:51 PM

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@final scarab the secret is buying seeds

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most crafts are from t1 anyway

oblique panther Jul 27, 2020, 9:27 PM

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@autumn snow Just buying any t1 seeds to fill up garden in bulk?

rancid knoll Jul 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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What level seeds do I need to be able to modify item level 100?

devout osprey Jul 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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76+

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it counts as item level 86

rancid knoll Jul 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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ahh okay thank you!

half current Jul 27, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I wanna build the pinned harvest thing

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but I dont understand the diagram

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like what is the unidentified blue square?

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and what are the green squares?

rigid stream Jul 27, 2020, 11:48 PM

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The Green square is unwalkable terrain

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And the 3 is a T3 seed

charred basin Jul 28, 2020, 2:34 AM

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did they change something with seed crafting that is preventing me from changing my crafted resist to another res? cant convert my crafted lightning or fire to cold res and i'm pretty sure i could before

tame fiber Jul 28, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Anyone on

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Is there a specific seed that allows you to add sockets to items?

cobalt falcon Jul 28, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Reforge socket?

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Vivid leech

light swallow Jul 28, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I just planted 9 farms full of T1 seeds but after 15 or so seed caches, my seeds in the grove arent growing.

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Like Im so confused and I dont know what to do about it because it doesnt matter if I port home after finding the seeds, finish the level and go to the exit, use the waypoint to go home or anything, they just wont grow.

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Ive got a total of 106 T1 seeds now because of how many seed caches Ive opened trying to grow my original 75 seeds per color

half current Jul 28, 2020, 3:38 AM

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The level of the seeds needs to be higher or very close to the area you are doing for it to grow

light swallow Jul 28, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Im doing the last area in act 10

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Still nothing

half current Jul 28, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Where did you get the seeds from?

light swallow Jul 28, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Hold on maybe my seed levels are too high.

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The mob level in the desecrated chambers is 65

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my seeds are like 70

half current Jul 28, 2020, 3:40 AM

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That’s probably it

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Idk the level difference

light swallow Jul 28, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Alright lemme go try a map

half current Jul 28, 2020, 3:40 AM

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But I know that’s it

sharp iron Jul 28, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Why do people use the weapon and body armor quality enchantments? 1 life per 2% quality is only 10 life, how could that be better than 20% more defences? Even for a life build like RF that seems rediculous

half current Jul 28, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Cause you can get more than 20% qual

sharp iron Jul 28, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Bringing that up to 30% quality makes it 15 life vs 30% defenses. 15 life is still way less that a single modifier gives.

light swallow Jul 28, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Okay yeah the growing. Sorry Im dumb

sharp iron Jul 28, 2020, 3:44 AM

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It's 3 strength pathing nodes

vast gazelle Jul 28, 2020, 3:47 AM

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thats 30% local defenses

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to the body armour

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now, id bet you wont see int bases doing it much, except where the point is not the ES

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but armour and evasion bases dont care about the whatever loss, like 200 of the stat

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and 15 life isnt much but its something

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as for weapons

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its tricky, because its 20% increased base damage which means something sometimes

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but often attack speed/range/area/etc. are more valuable then a few more base damage

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especially in cases like dex stacking ice shot where the bow's physical base is an insignificant contribution to your damage compared to a bit more AS

light swallow Jul 28, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Hey so I still have plenty of storage but one of my farms is saying Im gonna lose essence if I condense. As far as I can tell its still connected to the storage tanks

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Nevermind I found a missing link in my farm

frigid venture Jul 28, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Reborn bulb + lifeforce bud = 4x lifeforce right?

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How the heck do people get lvl86 seeds lol

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Oh nvm. It's the unique watchstones

light monolith Jul 28, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Is there an eli5 garden setup or guide/link around here? I basically haven't changed anything on my trashy garden since week 1

whole axle Jul 28, 2020, 7:35 AM

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I've been meaning to make a layout of the same basic one everyone uses at this point

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don't know if a layout has been posted

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basically 3 3 t1 field L shapes on the left, 3 t2 fields across the middle, 3 t3/t4 fields on the upper right

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and 3 extra fields in lower right, since you don't need that for storage anymore

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bottom middle can be 1-2 fields or crafting stations

wet plaza Jul 28, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I just use the basic ones in the pins and I can't even reliably fill 2 T1 fields in ssf so I'd say do the setup in the top right and some tanks and then do what feels right for what you do

sonic flower Jul 28, 2020, 2:10 PM

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if there any way to improve quality of item that allready crafted from 20 to 30% ? for example on this item

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versed marlin Jul 28, 2020, 2:13 PM

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You can make it 28% through the syndicate using Hillock, can't get 30% without perfect fossil which would reroll the item too ofc

sonic flower Jul 28, 2020, 2:14 PM

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oh

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that's pretty good option

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thanks

rigid stream Jul 28, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Bestiary corrupt Makes it 30

wise quest Jul 28, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I enchanted a vaal regalia with life per % qual, if i want to make a chest for Es based builds there is no enchant option right ? I think i need to sell it and start again if i want a true ES chest.

vast gazelle Jul 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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right, you want default quality behavior if you’re making an ES chest

violet nymph Jul 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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how do I do this

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green void Jul 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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collector-pylon-storage
pylon acts as the connector. just place them and click on them. you’ll get how it works

gilded dew Jul 28, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Can anyone link the forbidden trove discord?

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Their site is down

young knoll Jul 28, 2020, 9:36 PM

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I started the league late and have a garden setup that can get T3 seeds. I'm doing yellow maps and I saw ghazzy stream and he can store harvest crafts with horticraft bench?

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I thought the idea of the league was you can only use the craft when you got it and not store it

silver kettle Jul 28, 2020, 9:44 PM

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@young knoll some level of storage got added just before launch based on player feedback

young knoll Jul 28, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Ah ok I must have missed that I saw he had 2 dump tabs full of stored crafts. Put me off

silver kettle Jul 28, 2020, 9:46 PM

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if it makes you feel any better, being able to store that many crafts takes a lot of work

young knoll Jul 28, 2020, 9:48 PM

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It just means that I could have some crafts that are useful in the future but have no idea if it's common or not

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And I can't be fucked reading more guides and spreadsheets

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I gave up trying to optimize betrayal. I'm just winging it now

rigid stream Jul 28, 2020, 10:16 PM

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no you wont have crafts

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you cannot use low lvl crafts on high lvl items

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so Once you are at the point of having high lvl crafts, you can already store them

junior belfry Jul 29, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Any one have any strats for quickly farming horticrafting stations?

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How many tier 2 seeds does it take for 1800 lifeforce from one harvest

coral garden Jul 29, 2020, 1:43 AM

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With just 1 T4 and some T2/3s in a patch i can usually get 80+ lifeforce with a small flower@junior belfry

vapid gazelle Jul 29, 2020, 1:51 AM

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@junior belfry
Primal Reborn Bulb Doubles the Lifeforce granted by other seeds. This effect is limited to one per harvest when Harvested
Add liforce flower and a field of T2s
Watch the freaking lifeforce flow in

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bonus points if field of T3s ofc

young knoll Jul 29, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Oh I got a fortune bulb yesterday and just stored it, what is it for?

junior belfry Jul 29, 2020, 2:45 AM

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thanks guys

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however I am have lost the growth indicator on my seeds and anything harvest related

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how do i get it back

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brisk relic Jul 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I think your loot filter is screwing you over there

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Either that or you managed to glitch your game, in which case try either relogging or restarting your game

versed marlin Jul 29, 2020, 2:50 AM

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You just need to reset the instance when this happens, hold control and click on the grove from the way point and you'll be back to normal. Don't know why it happens but it can bug occasionally.

native sonnet Jul 29, 2020, 2:57 AM

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not a bug

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when u create a new grove instance (i.e in map), ur previous instance (from hideout) is rendered invalid cuz it doesnt have the progress u made in the new instance

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all u need to do is create a new instance of it either in a new map or ctrl click the grove

versed marlin Jul 29, 2020, 3:03 AM

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I guess the reasoning for keeping the old invalid instance would be for any loot left or something. Didn't realise that's why it happens, thanks for the info

native sonnet Jul 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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its so u cant cheat the game into harvesting the same plot multiple times, i.e: have plot rdy, open instance A, open instance B in map, harvest, come back to instance A and harvest again

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oh, misread that, yeah dk why the old instance is not auto closed, oh well ~

celest atlas Jul 29, 2020, 6:45 AM

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you entered thr grove through map and now you entered through portal

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so just ctrl-click on the WP to create new instance

sharp valley Jul 29, 2020, 7:44 AM

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is there a guide on how to craft a frostbite opal ring with harvest?

frigid holly Jul 29, 2020, 1:23 PM

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@junior belfry Hit 'z'

next cave Jul 29, 2020, 1:30 PM

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hey folks, quick question. how can i influence what type of craft modifier a seed gives? i'm in ssf and looking to get certain augment and remove modifiers (not the reforge ones).

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i used two of those flowers (for the rarest 3 options and additional options chance), but got the same standard crap. am i missing something here?

split jackal Jul 29, 2020, 1:33 PM

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if I use prefix can't be changed and use an annul effect and add does it remove my prefix can't be changed?

next cave Jul 29, 2020, 1:35 PM

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isn't it easier to just pre cant be changed, scour, then use the add seed?

split jackal Jul 29, 2020, 1:53 PM

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@next cave I was trying to keep my minion 100 and my crit on socket while just trying to get rid of the mana

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But I guess it is a good point just to go prefix can't be changed then just scour

ruby inlet Jul 29, 2020, 2:00 PM

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I think the answer you want is yes it can remove the crafted mod

celest atlas Jul 29, 2020, 3:16 PM

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with remove crit add crit you still only have a 1/3 chance for it to be removed .. maybe you better use something else to convert it to a normal mod

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and than add the crit again

slender karma Jul 29, 2020, 3:37 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/JfGlbj2.png

celest atlas Jul 29, 2020, 3:43 PM

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for the primal seed .. do the monster get even faster with high seed tier ? some are even crazy fats on T1 already

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already lost a t2 seedset coz they there so fast and standing right at the portal ..

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but doing them from HO will give much lower Lifeforce?

celest atlas Jul 29, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ufff 280k Lifeforce on a T3 ... but it to like 30 min to separate 1 boss and kill it

rigid stream Jul 29, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Doing from ho is significantly less lifeforce yes

celest atlas Jul 29, 2020, 6:20 PM

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but i also used 3 flowers

minor owl Jul 29, 2020, 7:01 PM

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hey guys, about to do my first oshabi, do map mods affect the fight ?

vast gazelle Jul 29, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Yes

frosty basin Jul 29, 2020, 10:00 PM

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”Sacrifice up to half a stack of Divination Cards to receive between 0 and twice that amount of the same Card”
What are the probabilities here? Is it just 50/50, or are you expecting profits?

native sonnet Jul 29, 2020, 10:02 PM

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odds are not known

frosty basin Jul 29, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Because either answer has weird implications :P

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I think 50/50 has less weird implications.

rigid stream Jul 29, 2020, 10:43 PM

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its not 5050 but split between whats possible, its net neutral

autumn snow Jul 29, 2020, 10:52 PM

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everyone knows the odds are always 50/50 templarthumbsup

marsh summit Jul 29, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I followed this guide but Idk how to plant the T2s (I know it's inefficient. Just my starter): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJxruT6mViI

YouTube

AsmodeusClips

Easy Garden Setup To Farm Seed Fast! | Path of Exile Harvest

Going over my harvest setup in PoE. Will definitely improve it in the future but this is a very easy way to get started.

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I set up my farm exactly like his

primal crypt Jul 30, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Do Lifeforce Buds benefit from overlap? If I place two Lifeforce Buds with overlap, do I waste the overlap?

minor olive Jul 30, 2020, 1:50 AM

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can you add an enchant to a synthesized weapon?

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im pretty sure it just chooses one of the flowers maarx

violet nymph Jul 30, 2020, 2:39 AM

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you should be able to

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enchants and implicits are unrelated now

celest atlas Jul 30, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Marx no it will always only use 1 of a kind

flat oriole Jul 30, 2020, 10:42 AM

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guys, about the mod "upgrade magic item +2 mods high-tier", does high-tier mean lucky or its "higher tier" to current mod?

rigid stream Jul 30, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Higher Tier means better Chance for better mod

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Lucky means lucky^^

frigid holly Jul 30, 2020, 3:24 PM

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The harvest craft that adds a synthesized implicit to an item cannot be used on influenced items, but can the craft that adds influence be used on an item with a synthesized implicit?

celest atlas Jul 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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and lucky mean it roles the mod twice and uses the higher one right?

rigid stream Jul 30, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Yes, its Basically Like Using a divine and taking The better results

hard totem Jul 30, 2020, 8:28 PM

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so i just found out the hard way that you can STILL get stuck in the walls on that one skill in oshabi fight

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that was 100 maps wasted

warped obsidian Jul 30, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Hi, Does anyone know if the item level of an item impacts the synthesis modifier craft? to be more precise i'm looking for + 1 level of socketed gems/ or +1 level of socketed support gems for a bow, does it matter what item level bow I use? and If so, is there a list somewhere saying what Ilvl I need?

sand pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Having trouble with dispensers

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They are on auto dispense and all hooked up

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But the plants near it still show they aren't getting the life force from them?

tawdry hearth Jul 30, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Will a horticrafting flower stack with a horticrafting bud?

wise pilot Jul 31, 2020, 3:13 AM

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if i annul/ex with seeds and it removes a suffix, will it replace with a suffix or can it be a prefix too?