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yo
sorry to interrupt but i need help, my heart of the grove was at 98.8% and when i started a new map it went back to 1% 😐
It was at 98.8% but went to 1 map right?
Thats intended
The % is a cooldown before you can start growing again, the x/100 are growthticks you need to grow the seed
ye i asked in question section which was more appropriate i think, i got the answer thanks tho 🙂
so... I'm guessing with this new league they haven't figured out how to fix latency yet
In 98/100 Case its bewteen you and the server
@rigid stream I had very decent latency the first half of Delirium
just went badly in the last month or so of that league, and today
I would play 50-60ms on Singapore server, which is latency consistent with most other multiplayer games I play with Singapore servers. no idea why I average 400ms with POE's
Because your ISP is shit
Somewhere bewteen you and Poe Server they have derpy routing
yeee ISPs in general are
Because your ISP is shit
@rigid stream
They might Route you through America and brazil and back
that makes sense actually, because my best ping is the Cali server
It Happens way too much
true that
There was a Dude on Reddit who was living 3km away from a Server and His ISP Routed him over 6000km through some janky connection
good lord
is there any way for me to fix that on my end or does that bear contacting the ISP?
You have to do a WinMtr or so to Check and then bother your isp
Because usually unless you have Proof your ISP dont Budge
Is the seed type drops purely rng? Or are they weighted?
Weighted, but you cant influence it
can someone explain something abour harvest crafting
do bench crafted mods also get removed
trying to make an int stacking regalia and im just looking at a way to do it without wasting 50ex
from what i know, things like suffixes cant be altered etc get respected, but otherwise crafted mods are treated like other mods on the item?
depends what craft youre talking about i guess
so basically crafting bench mods are counted as just another mod
im not knowledgable on how all harvest craft work, but say you craft a cold mod...if you use a harvest craft that can remove a cold mod it can definitely hit the crafted mod
kk ty
hello, what garden layout you recomand, ladies and gents ?
https://iw.gy/kIbLYO that my current plan framing t1 , building t2 and growing t3,t4 ..
but you can always build our own one there .. with that template
and for T2 you dont need so many storage i never get them full atm
that setup is okay but these days i prefer a bit more space in the middle for navigating, so i would swap some stuff around, but eh it should suffice. aside from that jank area in the middle witht he dispensers, thats wierd^^
what is the lowest level seed that can affect an ilvl 84 item?
you mean the are to grow t2 ? it therebecause i manually add lifeforce so i see if there are plant which need some love as soon as i enter
not sure if it was +6
so 78
tyvm
so it is better to grow a bunch of t2 and t3 and t4 separated ?
a bit off the topic--but i will say ive been having fun watching the delirum mobs get stuck in all my garden equipment xD
t4 will need some t3's around
etc
so i got logged out when i tabbed out to my browser and lose all the harvest i just collected?
kamil im more annoyed by myself getting stuck .. im sure the broke something in the patch
yeah that too...trying to fight but not click on all the buttons xd
its like 4 storage feels like one big 2x2 block
as far as florins question, ive been using t2's mostly as spacers in the empty space in my higher tier gardens. keeping t3/t4 in center/corner areas to fulfill all their adjacency requirements
im not sure whats actually the best practice tho
i didnt try it out yet but i was thinking about using 4 collector in a 2x2 and simple change the color depening on what i grow but i never tried it out yet something like that
thats really bad
dispensers next to collectors?...
it has way too many dispensers in the collection area
anyone got the layout for the grove, including horticulturing flowers?\
a basic layout with everythiong covered?
those on reddit are not fully updated
sweet, thx
sry if its been asked but the harvest craft "Reforge a Rare item, keeping all Prefixes" ... i assume it rolls new mods and doesnt just wipe suffixes?
oi ty
how do we control which way the storage tanks fill up
Probably by the way they are connected but... I dont know how it routes, so my honest answer is, you probably can, but in reality you cant
lol ok
for the linked layout just above, what do the 3s mean near the T2+ collectors
is there a breakdown somewhere of the rarity of the mods seeds produce? if i am target farming for x mod i would have better or worse odds using the fortune bud/flower/blossom vs not using it
is remove/add more rare than just aug or remove individually?
i dont see weights listed on poedb
maybe im just missing them
unless the order here: https://poedb.tw/us/HarvestSeed is ordered from top(common) to bottom(rarest)
@frigid void what do you need help with
@trim jetty they're ordered top to bottom, I dont think anyone has found weights
@ruby inlet thanks
anyone juicing their t1s at all? wondering if the new buds are worth using on them
fair enough
I remember someone saying harvest being not rewarding kekW
I copied one of the setups posted here but can’t figure out how to plant t3 seeds
Do the t2 and t3 seeds not have to be on a collector for the t3 to grow?
if friend parties me when opening t1-t4 seeds, and he gets some of hte shard t2-t4 seeds, is he taking a portion that would've belonged to me or are they extra?
Extra
so its alwways better to go into friends seed opening 😮
Appearently the Droprate isnt super good
ah 😦 boo alrighty
It helps, but its Not required to party
what is the maximum level difference between seeds and itemlevel?
10
A fractured item has synth influence right ?
its a different influence
when you get so much lifeforce the harbingers takes over
from 2 plots
Spawned Harvest boss for the first time. Any pointers for blind kill?
Should probably do in white map? Tier matters?
you need quite a bit of dps or you get killed by the soft enrage
the area will start to fill with a phys degen zone and does that whenever you are in the vine cage, the faster you break out the sooner you stop the degen spread
if you take too long the entire area will be filled which is not cool^^
I have some turbo build, can probably manage. But.. I guess it doesnt matter what tier map I open it in?
Okay wasnt very hard
I oneshot her
🙂
storage change was obvious
i've wrote and read several times about storages being too small and needing a bigger one for high amounts of lifeforce like horti
glad they listened to the community
can't wait to make the garden less annoying with storages blocking the path everywhere
whats a fun build for this league that is not too expensive
Does anyone know if the harvest bud/flower/blossom effects stack if you overlap multiple of them on a seed?
Does anybody know if horticrafting enhancers (green bud/flower/blossom) stacks with Wild Infestation Queen's "double crafting outputs from other seeds in harvest" effect?
I haven't seen anybody talk about it.
Yes it stacks
Lifeforce flowers also Stack with Primal Double lifeforce seed
Just two flowers of the Same type wont stack
cool, thanks
I've killed everything in my harvest but it's not letting me craft or anything. Do you forfeit your craft options if you die and/or take too long to return?
Waste of t2 seeds x.x
The instance will reset after 7-15 minutes
weird, I had died to some of the mobs and then did my zana mission before going back, I killed and looted the mobs so they weren't reset when I got back but the condenser was
Did you click a seedcache in the zana misson
That forces the harvest thingies to close
I basically havnt bothered with harvest stuff. I have an absolut shitton of seeds and want to get into the higher tiers. What would a garden layout look like that doesnt require me to do 100 hours of pylon construction and is fairly comfortable to play with?
jesus
the benefit from this is, you can place anything in the higher tier area and never have to rearange anything
and you have a large space for fighting
How do i know what pylon connects to what?
the whole right side is fairly self explanatory cause there isnt much you can do wrong
This is a different layout but you should learn how to connect looking at this
It's not as complicated as it might look
thats basically the same layout with a bit less pylon efficency
How do you use these layouts? Dump all t1s into the 3 fields foor the respective colors and put t2s into upper right?
In that second layout there's 3's, you can put t1 seeds there for the t2 seeds on the corners that need more adjacent units, if you want/need to put t3 seeds in the corner you'll need to put t2 on the outside, and so on
so basically if i put t3 seeds where it says "3" i never have to worry about adjascency requirements as long as i always plant a full field?
yes
thats why the setup is so good, it doesnt require any thinking or juggeling once its set up
and has full seed efficency
if only i could autoplant higher seeds
Is there a table somewhere how many of each infrastructure type i need for this, or do i count manually?
at least the second one has count of everything, idk about first
you just start and expand the storage as you need
but its like 36 dispensers 4 of each collector and 120 pylons at most
thanks for your help, im gonna set it up
i have like 1.5k t1 seeds of each type, its getting annoying
damn I wish I had that many seeds rn
i started running out of seeds finally, i even still had some shitty leveling seeds in seed stash for some reason, lol
Most complicated thing about harvest is the perspective and resolution change when opening inventory lol
setup itself is pretty easy once you understand what each building does
hey since there is new storage tank mechanic that they have 1000 units of storage is anything changing in garden setup ?
am i wasting life force by using planted seeds right next to the corners?
seeds that don't grow but merely serve to add +1 to surrounding seeds
no you arent wasting lifeforce
they cant grow
and stuff that doesnt grow doesnt use lifeforce
The craft "sac weapon/armor to create ring" is it any good at all or just trash?
Tried a few, the 'similar mods' is laughable. Did 3 armors with life and tri res, closest ring was double res. So 2/4 hits (2/5 actually as it didn't hit last mod that I didn't target either). Small sample size sure, helluv unimpressed though.
Yeah same here
Is there any nice chart with all crafts available? And I dont mean the simple "Pink has fire" but every fire option available, etc
Hi, anyone would know answer to this Q? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2905068
@rigid stream I have built that layout you posted, but i'm still kinda confused about the connections. Is there a post explaining it somewhere that goes with the picture?
Uh probably, but i dont know where
The only Thing you have to Stick to is, 3 Lone Tanks to 1 Pylon and 1 Tank thats shared with another pylon
The Rest is basically, If it works its okay
i did the one Tunbart linked > good layout)
damn, i wasted 6 exalts yesterday on Thornweaver seeds (Speed one) and still fck me no speed for my boots
@rigid stream i'm asking about lifeforce waste because sometimes i can manually press the "dispense lifeforce" button even though the only one who doesn't have it is the one on the edge that isn't supposed to grow, and when i click it it actually receives it. I'm thinking the dispersers do the same
No they dont. Or rather, they do it only once at Most
If a seed gets lifeforce from a dispenser, it doesnt use it untill it grows
But If it never grows, it never uses that lifeforce
i tried using fortune blossom and horticrafting flower together on weta field, and what I ended up with is 14 reforge rare item with new random modifiers. life modifiers are more common?
is that rarer than the useful options or something?
also i only got 3 different choices
all bad
Thats actually really Bad luck
If you used a Fortune Blossom you normally get at least a few better crafts. Are you Sure it was Fortune and Not lifeforce?
yep
but it dont say better crafts. it says rarer. there may be some rare not good crafts
Nah reforges are Not rare.
not with ** are more common either?
What it does is Basically reroll 4 Times
So it might be, it rerolled and Always got the Bad one. Thats entirely possible but unlikely
It was the Chaos orb Symbol, right?
And Not the divine Symbol?
i dont remember. i just remember reforge with life, life more common
yeah it should be chao
s
did it again on another field. got another tons of reforge with *** more common
what is the best way to remove a mana mod from an item? is there even a harvest option or do i have to annul?
Craftofexile.com and look at affixes @woeful mango
Haven't looked myself, if there's 'mana' tags or if it's 'caster' or even sharing with 'life' /shrug
well it shares the caster mod, but i have another caster mod on that item i want to keep. so an annul mana option would be great 😄
But those don't exist ;) 50/50 it is, gl ;)
but i dont think there are any with harvesting. been looking at poedb and craftofexile
Or if its suffix caster and you can block it ^
I mean wouldn't math support crafting on a third caster mods for cheaps and anull caster?
both were prefix too
yea, too late for that, back to the drawing board 😄
but i'll remember that for next time i hit what i want 😄
ty again 🙂
How do you guys use your t3 seeds? Do you only plant them if you have enough for a full field?
its technically the best thing to do
but, T3 seeds especially in the juiced maps you should use them in, are very rough
Are the T3 Primal crafts change unique bestiary or change breach stuff any useful?
yes
you can craft beast lures with the bestairy ones and get thousands of perandus coins with the uniqe one
Juicing a map in regards to t3 seeds only means to get as much iiq as possible to get more t4s, right?
stuff like adding other content like alva isnt necessary for that, right?
yea only IIQ matters
How hard are these full t3 fields?
If i'm deleting a8 without much effort, am i fine?
or are there some special checkpoints i should fullfill?
nah if you can easily kill A8 fast it should be fine, just pay attention to the fact that they can easily oneshot you
they deal far more dmg than awakener, especially with nemesis cause its 24 rare mobs stacked together with auras and nemesis mods
and they are about 3 times faster than awakener, maybe 4 times depending on mods
never do a full T4 though
just dont even try^^
T4 monsters have abilities to megadeath you
like rooting you to the ground and disabeling your movement skills
I'm a golemancer, so i can be kinda defensive
you should be fine?
if i fail, is everything just gone?
if you use up all portals, yes
very annoying if that happens, but you should be fine, just dont put turbo on the map
or even less turbo + crit, lol
or turno + crit + multiproj^^
even then the monsters are really fast and some can teleport
Does the Heart of the Grove boss difficulty/drops scale with map mods?
Hi, how can i add culling strike via seeds is it phsical base or attack base or not both anyone can help ?
Can anyone please explain why I cant craft this on my belt? I have a t2 fire res and t7 lightning res.
Because you already have fire resistance on the item
now that i reread it.. is it b/c i have lightining res?
no, its because you have fire res
that craft takes away the lightning res on your item and creates a new fire res modifier on it
but it already has a fire res modifier
and you can only have it once
yes, or close to t7
thanks for the explanation bro
@rigid stream you mentioned nemesis on a full t3 field, do you just do that for the sextant or is there a different reason?
Uh
If you use a gilded reliquary scarab and get a decent map, every Monster Drops Like 3-5 uniques
And since its Nemesis it can drop HH
And since there are 24 Monsters, you get a shitton of uniques
Also some of them have Nemesis mods naturally
Nothing stops ya from off/half-screen pulling out a few mobs at the time. Or even off-screen killing em without aggro 🤡
except, you can LITERALLY offscreen kill mobs without aggro
and even if they port/shoot you could still pull out 'a few' rather than fight the whole farm.
With the harvest craft change res to other res, is it the same tier, or +-1?
can using a remove/add cold harvest craft change a bench crafted cold mod?
im not sure i did with life and it changed but i also used remove cold add fire and it was still mastercrafted
I'm trying to understand the effect of infestation queen bulb. The way I initially thought it worked was that it gives an extra use for every crafting outcome until you spend of of these extra uses, then every other craft goes to 1.
or does it give an extra outcome to every single seed in radius, and the wording simply means you can't stack multiple of them to get a bunch of outcomes from the same one?
and are the extra outcomes simply doubled, or does it give you 2 random outcomes of every seed?
Like if I plant a wild thornfruit (fracture prefix/suffix) together with an infestation queen, will it give me two of the same outcome on the thornfruit, or can it give two different ones?
I have a t4 seeds now, how many other seeds should i grow with it to get enough lifeforce to use the crafting option it provides?
Is it enough by itself if i throw like 7 t1 seeds next to it to satisfy the 8 seed requirement for harvesting?
blue
Thats good
You place the T4, 1 Primal reborn Bulb, 5-8 Other T3, Rest T2
And then a lifeforce Flower+ horticraft flower
The t4 is only giving me 1 crafting option though right? Does it cost that much lifeforce?
It costs Like 5k?
it provides 4.3k by itself though
But, If you are already growing Higher Tier seeds, might as Well Go all in and get some horticrafting stations
You can easily get 300k lifeforce with Primal seeds
i already have 50 horticraft stations that are empty
That doesnt hold for long
Thats 150 crafts, a good wild field can give you 50 crafts you might want
Or If you do a crit field, you probably want to save everything including reforges
Or speed
I have a full stash of full horticrafting Stations and 170 empty
wow you're really into gardening
Not really
Its Just, you can Willy nilly save divines n stuff
And having a bunch of targeted divines If you need them is Handy
I'm already super annoyed by placing t2 and t3 seeds manually
i hate that the dont bring bigger hortistation with more space ... organizing ur crafts is really annoting
what do you have to do to start the heart of the grove fight anyway?
i even made my own version of AHK script to get a sorted text list of all crafts => https://github.com/TheBelgarion/PoeHarvestList
To start the Fight? Grow a T4 Seed and then Run 100 Red maps
guess not to bad fr one t2 field
- another fortune flower
does gem change also has a chance to change into awakening gem ?
No Player IIQ?
you mean MF ß
Yes
nope
it would be so nice if i would just collect the crafts in the garden but you could use them in normal bench in ur hideout .. every now and than you have to run back to chane a mastercraft into something else and than go back in .... or buy even more hortistation which makes it so confusing ...
even than .. if you could at least place the hortistation in ur hideout to use a craft ..
So anyone can explain what is the deal with infused offerings? should I use two of them to get 9 enchants?
or how does it work?
how does heart of the grove work
i did it but it have some %(killed the boss)
is it cooldown for the next grove
do maps now, it will reach 100% and then you will have 100 map counter to fight wifi progress again
does it give better reward each time
or it just a reset like sirus
just a way to ye reset and progress
The % actually progresses by harvesting seeds
oh i see
also i did 4 tier 4 at the same time
sometimes they are extremely tanky
blue one
and they stand together
do they have any special abilities that make them extra tanky(easier to kill them one by one apparently) (influence one)
what i thinking... can i buy hortificator with some craft i neeD? (speed for example) ?
or buy craft in any way?
such low price?
at least can be higher
i wasted 6ex on seeds yesterday
let me check
no it just a discord server
no one trading you anything
you gotta have to do service
oh okay
but ye it 2ex for lucky one
is it in PoE trade discord server?
ping me in chat where i can find it please
Oh ye thx
need those for bumping service 😛
need to find craft with positive feedback and 2 ex is pretty okay
but ye everything calm down a lot now
a friend of mine sold aug crit for 8 ex
but that like 2 weeks ago
when people didn't know you can force vicious bite on minion cluster jewel to get profit
the jewel now drop down to 4 ex from 10ex+ lul
tbh i'm dumb about such stuff and i skipped Delirium league
but now i need to craft ...
for CoC build
but 13 ex is all i have
is there any way to do it easier? i got base for 80c~ and idk what to do now xD
dont go for that jewel
i mean
not that specific one
that cost over 15 ex
i spent 2 ex of alt
got blanketed snow and widespread
technically earn 2ex
but like i use it lol
@sonic flower if you want that specific one all i can say is good luck
it extremely hard to get that one
yeah 14 ex now
tons of remove fire add fire or remove cold add cod
i will make my ES gear first, since i have base but now i need add Res and ES
and then when i have nothing important to waste money on gonna probbly buy this jewel for 12-13 ex
the jewel is nice but i would say w8
the gear on coc is way more important
i would say watcher's eye(around 3-5ex for the gain ES per hit so that you literally become a tank lul) after pandemonious
ofc assuming you done with armor and stuff
I have watcher Eye, i have 3res 423es body armour with Explosive mod, decent enough gloves, Pandemonius< circle of fear,
and other stuff
boots with tailwind + recovery speed + 1 res (need to craft now speed and ES)
hubris with -9 cold resistance, shield with ES on block and %chance to block spell damage
mostly
jewel will be last on buy list
@sonic flower 423 on body armour seem not the best but pretty nice cuz explosive lul
you can just keep grinding currency
the jewel wrong really be like boosting you too much imo
just get widespread destruction and blanketed snow and be happy with it for awhile if you want
I’m using a spell damage jewel for my coc build cause it lets me max spell block @sonic flower could be worth investigating
I crafted it with harvest crafts and I spent 20c for it
i will take few days brake from PoE, and my friend will craft for me my Belt, Shield, Helmet
just done my Boots, now only need remove defence \ add defence untill i get good
@rigid idol it was 457 xD
is it possible to craft something like this thicket bow in harvest? https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Kor_Zero/KR_ED_Toxic?i=1&search=class%3DDeadeye%26skill%3DTornado-Shot%26sort%3Ddps
given that u r looking at a harvest character, yes
good help
Looking at the patch notes i cant see(maybe having a blind moment) if they have fixed the auto dispense mode, anyone else having that issue where you toggle it on and you still have to manually disperse the life force?
just a visual bug, it still dispense if u dont manually click it if u have it on auto
u just have the option to still manually dispense it
Mine seems to be functional bug from the storage units, if i do it from the gardens it works fine, i have them all set but it doesnt dispense, ill try it out tonight when i get home from work to see if it works properly as it may have been fixed in last weeks patch
when it says "remove a non-attack" mod and a mod has "attack, cold", is it safe or no
safe
when do most players run into cassia?
for the craft; Change unique weapon into a unique weapon of that type
Can you get boss weapons?
99.9% sure you cant
do people pop their t4s in maps or not? their so tanky idk if its even worth it with all the extra map mods
does anyone know how to make 0 gcp
i tried sacrificing 1% on a corrupted 20% return gcp craft but it gave me 1gcp sed
Fixed a bug where the "Sacrifice a Corrupted Gem to gain x% of the gem's quality as Gemcutter's Prisms" could return a stack of Gemcutter's Prisms with a stack size of 0.
you might want to read #old-game-news
yeah but that patch hasnt been deployed right
they probably patched it server side
quickly checking... the goop in the storage tanks
it can't be used for recipes later on can it?
just for fertilizer?
hey anyone got a layout that shows bud/flower placements?
@silver kettle if you end a crafting session in the grove with 0 lifeforce (after killing mobs in the grove), you cant plant in that section until you zone out and in again. if you end the session with non-0 amounts (and condense it and move it to storage) you can immediately replant
intended behavior?
no, bug. the 3.11.1c patch coming later in the week will cause the autoplant button to always be available even when you also have crafting available, which will fix this
will a remove harvest craft ignore prefixes or suffixes cannot be changed or not?
On right top
I usually plant t3 inner circle and t2 outside
t4 in middle with t3 on both side
Can reforge block affix?
is resonator<->fossil convert, with rarity based on inputs, worth trying?
what would curse with flammability on hit be? Caster/fire?
Flammability on hit via ring or weapon only has a fire modifier tag - no caster
appreciated
guys, can "remove non-x and add x" remove a prefix and add a suffix?
Yes
Can weightings of the crafts be found anywhere?
I want to know if aug speed from a thornweaver has the same rate as aug life from a weta
There seems to be a bug in harvest... was doing a conqueror map, went into harvest farm, and tped to sell some items, came back to farm and the portal to map was gone, had to awaken the conqueror influence again and grind maps to get it back..
If i wanted to remove a mod from an amulet (max energy shield), but the item also has fire/lightning resistance, will a 'remove defence mod' only remove es or will it maybe remove the a res?
a yes, the harvest mechanic where all the stuff spawns back in and drops on top of the loot you can't pick up in time. Gotta love the short pickup range meaning the loot can be stuck inside the storage tanks
you can just remove it and pick the loot up?
yep, but still kind of stupid that it can happen (at least it's something actually removable, there's some places loot can drop in maps that are completely unreachable)
Press 'z' to hide and again to unhide, helped me a few times
Some places i cant reach drops, i could reach by leap slamming over there
How does the harvest craft that adds Synthesis Implicits work? Are the possible implicits drawn from the explicit mods on the item, or is it just entirely random?
why are these tilted xD anyway, if its the seeds next to the high tier garden layouts, they’re extra seeds that are placed outside of plots to ensure that minimum adjacency requirements get met for the corners
can fortune/horti flowers overlap for extra effect?
Any1 mind helping me out in the garden I dont know how I can connect stuff
When I do it it looks like cable salad
so far, everytime i tried playing i ragequit when entering the grove
Eh you are overcomplicating it then
Its really easy
You dont have to Care about beeing super efficient with space
You only have to remember to only harvest Plots of 24 seeds
Thats all
meh, I just don't want to play this part of game at all
I mean, its Like a strongbox you can customize?
it's hour of game that is disconected from the main game
hmmm
it's forced, annoying, and hollow
No u?
Any1 mind helping me out in the garden I dont know how I can connect stuff
@outer spruce
Most important for clean connections is to have a single "flow", not patches of tanks here and there, one region for harvesting T1s, connected to one region for storage, connected to one region for harvesting high tier seeds (for each color), use the whole area and don't mix and match
there's literally no reason that you should play the dumbass minigame to access league mechanic
it's literally just busywork
In essence, copy the layouts posted everywhere, if you don't have enough infrastructure it's fine to fill it in later
@minor owl do you mind looking into it pretty quick if its alright?
I'm not in game right now, but maybe someone else can pop in
can fortune/horti flowers overlap for extra effect?
You can use all 3 but the Same Type doesnt stack
I am dumb nvm
Is the type of T1 seed dropped in maps random, or are they at least partially dependent on which specific map you are in? In particular I need some wild ape seed, and I was wondering if they are more prevalent in maps with ape-monsters (tropical island, jungle type maps and so on)?
guys one question about the crafting harvest mod "augment with X modifier with lucky values"
does this mean that the tier will be potentially higher, or just that the values within a given tier will be rolled twice without affecting the specific tier rolled (like a divine orb woudl do) ?
Seed drops are random.
Rolls will be Higher, it doesnt Influence tier
Higher Tier Rolls are specifically mentioned Like on primal T2
Reforges an Item including X High Tier modifiers for example
what happens if I have a cannot roll attack mods on a bow and slam it with a random augment from the harvest? Do I get the guaranteed +1?
Harvest augments are Tag specific and cant craft non tagged Things
WIth the T4 seed that grants an item a synthesis implicit, does it actually add a second implicit or does it just replace the current normal implicit?
replaces what it already has
Plus blessed. Lucky is two rolls, taking the highest of the two.
is it worth using the low lvl buds on t1s?
like extra 5-10c per harvest for better crafts = more money from craft sales
how come when i go to the garden from my HO right now, i cant interact with anything?
no options to plant/harvest/anything
you probably entered from a map
and collected a harvest after that
in order to have the options from before you need to enter in the harvest through the mmap you opened the portal
not from your ho
to reset this "bug" you need to harvest another map seed to open a new portal
oh i ctrl+click garden from my HO and it reset the instance
yeah - or that
when it first happened to me i had really good harvests and couldnt lose them, almost lost my head till i went back through the map XD
oh does it not reset your harvest?
uhm it only resets if you stay out of it too long, ctrl click on it or gather new seeds outside
oic
can you double influence an item via harvest aug influence?
@woven sandal no the aug influence add influence mod
it doesn't add new influence
it add a new suffix/prefix that guaranteed to be from that influence
useful for non crafted like flesh offering effect on hunter chest for example
Can upgrading non-gilded scarabs result in a winged scarab? Like if I tried upgrading a polished scarab?
@muted falcon idk might be just chances
i upgrades 2 of them 1 gilded and on rusted
rusted become polished
gilded become winged but it probably cuz i was lucky on that
is there anyone in here that knows a bunch about harvesting, and wants to explain some thru voice/screenshare?
if i use the harvest craft that adds lightning resistance per 1% quality on a body armor but makes it so quality does not improve defenses, do i loose some defences if i enchant a 20 quality armor?
I guess no, just doesnt improve it
So I have a harvest craft that says "Reforge a rare item with new random modifiers, including an influence modifier. Influence modifiers are more common"
Does that mean it changes the item into an influenced one, or just adds mods that would appear on influenced items only?
The 2nd one.
Rip
hey guys, whats the seed itemlvl range when crafting? i heard it was like 9 or 10 but i want to make sure
10, you nees lvl 76 seeds for lvl 86 items
Hey,
so i have this bow :
Rarity: Rare
Dread Bane
Harbinger Bow
Bow
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 176-398 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 6.90% (augmented)
Attacks per Second: 1.20
Requirements:
Level: 68
Dex: 212
Sockets: G-R-G-G-G-R
Item Level: 91
38% increased Critical Strike Chance (implicit)
179% increased Physical Damage
Attacks have 20% chance to cause Bleeding
24% increased Damage with Bleeding
25% chance to Poison on Hit
31% increased Damage with Poison
Adds 24 to 41 Physical Damage (crafted)
Warlord Item
And thought of using a remove a random non attack, add a new attack modifier, to get rid of the poison and add something like attack speed, is that possible or will it hit some physical or bleed mod?
To mazimize delirium and harvest synergy, is it better to wait for a delirium portal to harvest everything or to run a map with a delirium orb in it ?
if i use a fortune blossom on a seed that only has 3 crafting outcomes, can i guarantee the same outcome every time?
no
what level does the area need to be for a seed to grow. I have level 77 seeds. What level area do I need to find caches in?
Anyone experiencing the same problem, the lack of Vivid Scorpion seeds dropping in Quarry? Got loads of every other seeds but Scoprion 😦
When you’re doing a remove xxx and you have several of that type of affix does it take weighting into account at all?
@urban jasper I believe it's two levels below seed lvl as a minimum. That's my experience, not much lower than that
poe isnt known for its gameplay clarity, but this is next levels of noisy and bad:
I mean, what do you expect? To have stuff Not Show its range?
Then you would be Here complaining how you cant See what area is affected
i expect more streamlined design, cleaner more intuitive UI, value and saturation hierarchies that dont A) confuse the user and B) hurt the eyes, to just name a few

But it is streamlined
Everything has the Same range
It connects the Same way
Its also very Clean UI wise cause there are Almost No Buttons or tootips
i think you truly believe the design couldnt be clearer
so i wont debate you
but this needs to be improved
No harvest = no problems 
"dont interact with the mechanics and it wont be confusing"
lol
apologists, 'nuff said
This Type of clutter only Shows during the final stages of building a T4 farm
oh so its ok for there to be "this type of clutter" because its happening later, got it
imagine any design team on any game saying to their users "yeah we know it's confusing and noisy, but it's late game so its ok lol"
You do Not See that during Using it
Try to Wire a computer
Its Not nice and clean
I've had zero problems like this so idk what it is. I can plant seeds no problem and go and I have every square covered of my garden
I am not
This does Not appear during Using the system
Only during setting it up
And it has to, otherwise you dont know what affects what
poe apologists happy with this:
i just used this picture i got off discord and didn't pay attention lol
wait, what's the good setup then?
joking aside, i think previous leagues showed you could provide interesting, unique league mechanics without the kind of heavy overdesign and bogged down user interaction system that is harvest. i hope future leagues GGG can swing the pendulum back towards leagues like metamorph/blight/delve/delirium
In No reality you ever need 8 T1 fields per type^^ or should use a field of 20 instead of 24
Delirium was the worst leage that has ever been
It devalued all Other content
This is derailing quite nicely from the channel topic
Also, people hated blight cause placing Towers was hard, appearently
its hard to place towers while also repelling lots of badguys
nothing compared to harvest and playing sim farm 2020
In short: mad people will stay mad
Eh once its Set Up the Garden Takes No maintenance, so its fine
Unless you use a scuffed 99.8% setup
how does it take no maintenance? the auto plant doesnt work for planting t2-t4 seeds
I honestly use that terrible picture cause I like farming 8 T1s all at once. It's still not fundamentally flawed
It is
you literally need to sim farm our high level collectors every time
Because Using 24 seeds is vastly Superior to Using 20 seeds
You can litter your field with T1 collectors all day, that doesnt matter
But Using 20 seeds actively Hurts your rewards
Then I don't get something about it all. Cause that looks like way too many dispersers per T2
Its for T2-T4
So you can place everything and dont have to worry about Placements
Thats why it has all 3 dispensers
You can do full coverage with 3 dispensers of one color though
You absolutely need all 24 spaces for seeds
Thats why, in reality, its Not so complex If you know what a seed needs there is basically only this Setup with slight adjustments
It still feels like preference to me. Cause yes you get full coverage on B, but A has 2 collectors per T2 color
The Problem is, you get less Multiplier for Higher Tier seeds drops and less lifeforce multiplier
I prefer my farming in waves rather than enter and plant that often. But option B is fine
Define "multiplier" for me
The Harvester has Droprate and lifeforce multiplier depending ob what you planted
You See that when hoverinf over the harvest button
Every seed adds a certain % to that
Higher Tier seeds add more %
is there remove Armour from belt mod thing ?
I see. This I didn't know
Thats why a full T3 field has a 100% more lifeforce multiplier and a 20 field only 80%
Same for drops
Thats why Using less than 24 is actually hurting you by having less Drops, rather than Just beeing less time efficient
i don't suppose theres a quick way to pick up all my farm infrastructure at once?
Im not going for time efficiency. More like "I feel like farming now" then "i don't feel like farming for a while"
@urban jasper nope
Yea thats fine, but Using 24 is then absolutely what you want^^
I'd be taking option B and cutting down on tanks then to fit more harvesters cause that's what id want
I like the idea of 2 T2 farms per color
A lot of work to transform for something im not invested in, I'll get lvl 100 first 
What does the 3 mean in this image? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552615024393322506/733382089293955082/tjll1l8stn851.png
just wondering, map mods affect drops from the grove right? since it's in the map area
yes
Can someone help me with top right and middle seeds thing
Ahh, okay, thanks :D
do blossom charges get consumed upon harvest? or upon planting the nearby seeds?
i have like one spot which has less than 24 seed spots
and it has 22 spots because it's next to a dispenser slot
@dreamy pike upon harvest
thank you!
personally, i think it looks a bit noisy now
how much do the new large storage tanks go for?
5000
they hold 5000 lifeforce as well?
5000^^
can someone suggest a good garden layout?
anyone got a solid harvest layout for the new patch?
@west plank @wraith aspen honestly, the patch doesn't change layouts much -- you get more bang for your buck from storage tanks now, the mechanics of harvesting are the same as ever
Have peeps been getting T2 seeds drop from T1 harvests? Since the patch I've harvested 7 patches now and not gotten a single T2 which isn't the norm. Just wondered if it was just me.
Yes
what is the fastest way to get t1 seebs? I need t1 seebs
(besides buying them, i mean)
which are the best maps for 0 backtrack; i hate racecourse because it has bits in it
i'm thinking Lookout but not sure
yoooo
did they make it so i can't roll crafted fire to other fire mod?
or is my friend being dumb?
what level zone will proc a growth cycle for a lvl 78 seed?
I would Like it but... The ocd oh god
Also the T2 fields are only 22/24
By moving IT a Bit around you can probably make it 24/24 with Just slight adjustments
And ocd because purple and blue and yellow dont Match with their T1 slots^^
Why am i forced to manually use all that dispersers every cycle even when i have enough life force and auto is on?
its a visiual bug, you dont have to
if you have the lifeforce it grows automaticly even when blinking red
@rigid stream how is your t2 setup ? if you dont put the in on one side you would need more dispensers ?
i tried to move the storage to the outer edge so they dont hinder me any more ,-.) should be enough with the new capa
currently i use the upper area but, what i would do is, move the two left blues two more left and the yellow 1 left, then you can pull out the dispensers on the sides. if you move the blue 1 up and left then you get another two spaces
yes but if you put them outside you need dispenser on all 4 sides
yea
do flowers of the same type stack?
so can i put in 3 lifeforce flowers for giga condensed lifeforce
ya
ok ty
Hello i have a stupid question 🙂 How is "Nearby Enemies have -9% to Cold Resistance "described" in harvest? Its cold? Or you just cant remove this one non random?
yeah i's cold
Thank you mate 🙂
does energy shield modifers count as a caster modifier?
can all of the seeds have chaos options when crafting or only the blue seeds?
Primal Maw seeds are your best bet for rolling chaos mods
and same for getting socket linking crafting options?
anyone got any remove defense?
is there a harvest crasft for 6-link?
Yes
how hard yall going for advanced storage tanks
im still wondering if its worth it .. while not doing t3/t4 yet coz they are quite expensive and i got 150 1k tanks anyway
i just want to get rid of all this mess in my garden from x amount of regular storage tanks
dude i have 250 regular tanks in addition to my entire left side of the garden being regulars
so im just going for like 10 of each for advanced storage and then just dump the rest
yeah would totally do it if i could convert llets say 6 small to on big
i wish they made it so you can exchange like 67 for 1 advanced.
yepp exactly
Eh Just buy a new one and convert
the problem is
no not about the energy
we have tons of random useless storage units
about the tank and the energy you spend on getting them
that's 4 advanceds
A 83 T2 field is 20k or so
thats not the problem
Once you get 120+ completion its fine
119/154
running mostly t12 atm
how mayn horti you have ? im at about 20 .. and i always run out of space ... 😦
I have placed 9 at all times but a full stashtab and some more in my stash
I Just replace them when they are full
if im selling crafts is it worth to use flowers to get more crafts or its rather reducing profit ?
Will a harvest remove a prefix if I have "prefixes cannot be changed"?
didnt they patchnode say something about beeing able to move all lifeforce to the big tank ?
you can replace existing small tanks with big tanks and they keep their lifeforce
thats what they said
so i try to add Lightning resistance and added +2 max lightning res > how bad or good is this if i will be lucky with resist add?
(item in progress.. i need many ES and lightning res in the end)
Max res is generally really good.
lucky modifier my ass...
lucky just means it was rolled twice and it keeps the higher one
Can anyone explain to me how a" remove defense and add new defense" removes lifes one that is only life type?
@rigid stream im quite sure i read somethin about beeing able to move the lifeforce .. replace Inplace ? i mean so i can tranfer the lifefors to the big tank ?
or just as bef4 if you remove a tank it keeps its value
You cant Transfer all.lifeforce to one tank
You have to use it and Store the Tanks, or Just Upgrade them
"reroll rarity 10 times, keeping the highest" Can this rolls uniques? If yes, league specific like HH?
Sure, If its a map with zana nemesis
for a HH
okay another question, i want to Harvest some Defence seeds, what flower should i use for improving chance of remove\add and lucky defence crafts
@sonic flower useful? https://poedb.tw/us/HarvestSeed
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the blue boss's "augment an item with an influence modifier" is for putting a mod on an item that's already influenced, not for adding influence to the item, right?
yeah
guys one question, i made a layout for the seed thing and its working, if u press auto plant does it plant tier 2 or 3?
i have the dispersers and the links all working
no it doesnt autoplant higher tier seeds
ty... we should do a reddit post for that xd
nah
the seeds dont know whats around them
so they would need an algorithm
that would take a while
u could have some kind of all tier 1, all tier 2 ,all tier 3,
no seeds have different requirements for lifeforce
its kinda boring i have to do 1by1
Is "reroll the values of prefix modifiers with lucky values"
is that a divine, or does that actually change it like a chaos orb
divine
Any way to guarantee the +chaos gems without getting chaos life leech?
that would be super annoying to remove
nope, it's gonna be 50/50
use lucky craft to get that max 0.5% chaos leech imo
i dont think thats a build that can leech
yeah dot's not gonna get the leech. ah well. we'll see what happens
first try 😄
brilliant!
wish it was a strength base but thast how it ID'd so no complaints
costs 40c total.
The enchant "map boss is surrounded by tormented ghosts" would that get a ghosted delirium boss if i d.orb the map too?
sounds like it would work to me
but that also sounds like a good way to lose experience
does that mean beyond bosses will have ghosts too? 😰
But the challenge! gotta get it somehow..
does anyone have a does not consume sextant mod?
also if im in the wrong place sorry
just started this league should i use the pinned layout or is there a better one
it really wont matter until you get a decent base of juice and seeds going. i like this one so far, but the new storage tanks free up a lot of that
https://iw.gy/e4ego2
k thx
farming seeds like all day long, and haven't found a single T1 seed which gives cold roll modifiers when harvested, since a day or 2. do i have just a bad luck or can i help myself somehow by doing specific maps/locations etc.
bad luck i'd think. No way i know of you can target a seed type
so its purely an rng ?
mhm
getting attack and life rolls from t1 yellows all the time 😦 nothing about cold ...
Yea that's basically T1s.
is there a good way to leverage crafts like "sacrive a weapon to or armour to create jewel with similar modifers" ??
i admit i didn't think much about it myself
how do i delete collectors that have been placed
is there a way to target a specific t2 seed? do i need a certain mob type in the map? or is it completely random
if i use a "remove random non phys modifier and add new phys modifier" on an item that can only have prefixes as phys mods (body armour) does it always take a prefix and make new prefix or can it take a suffix and make into prefix? 🙂
@fierce rain ctrl+click
what if it's not letting me
it says "You cannot pick up objects that have been activated"
re enter the grove
maybe this is a dumb question, but how are people opening the seed cache anywhere in the grove
I keep seeing streamers do it
Press 'V' - it opens the window for whichever mechanic is active for the map you're in (Temple/Metamorph/etc)
Yea V
Thats the League Button for every league
Also works during delve and incursion
is it worth trying to get a 6-link from the crafts ? i guess its kinda mega rare to really get it
borrowing belgarions question, is there a weight somewhere of every craft? thst would be awesome to know
=> https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=17&bi=8002&i=|2|&ob=both&v=d&a=x&l=a&lg=3&bp=y&as=0&req={"1758":{"l":75,"g":1},"2312":{"l":84,"g":2}}&bld={}&ggt=|&ccp={} has all the weights
depending on our item and options
which more ... on the part which Mod you will get using the craft
can anyone help me with a crafting question
dont ask if you can ask a question .. this is the harvet channel afterall .. just ask away
does the ilvl of the seeds affect what crafts you get?
or only applies to ilvl of the item you're trying to craft on, right? its seed ilvl +10 for the item ilvl allowed to be crafted on?
it affects what crafts you get yes
but the results arent better
meaning, a ilvl 76 exalt sint worse than a ilvl 83 exalt
but the chance to get that exalt varies
you sure its a lower chance to get an augment craft on lower ilvl seed?
no
i said it varies
not its lower
how its exactly weighted we dont know, but we do know higher as well as low lvl seeds are good
but when and how we dont
alright thx for the info, helps a lot
The pool of crafting options appear to be affected by iLvl, but that’s about it. IE, you won’t get a 6s/6l on iLvl 30.
is there way to fix the game to not think i dont have any currency in my tab for a zana mod? i have to re-add chaos orbs nearly every map now to make it avaible
@alpine badge Place the currency tab first in line
Why doesn't my auto plant put down 24 seeds if I have them in my stockpile but does if I have them in my inventory?
T1 seeds
ilvl difference
it wont plant from storage if the difference is too large
you can force it by having seeds in your inventory
can i use higher level seeds on lower level items? or is there a restriction like there is for higher level items and lower level seeds?
yup lvl limit
you cant connect any more pylons to it
its maxed out (4)
i have a question about the t2+ seeds; how do people plant them, is it manual?
yes
gotcha
i didnt see it on this garden here but how would i best organize my t2s?
i think you just surround the collector?
so cycle is surround the t2s around the collector -> autofill the rest with t1s -> repeat with t3s?
yea
thats why it has tose outer seeds
to allow the corners to grow
yea
i have like 300 t1 seeds haha
yeesh
shoud i just add some more collectors
i guess
Can storage tanks act as middleman to daisy chain 2 pylons?
yes
and thats what you should do if possible, cause thats cool and space efficient^^
i have been. im trying to troubleshoot why dispersers are running low on juice even though everything is daisy chained
i dont mind hauling a storage tank to t2+ seed area but it's just silly if the irrigation system are all connected properly
It Just works
Its blinking red because the seeds cant See the dispensers beeing on auto
But If you have the lifeforce and its Set to Auto, they grow Just fine
what are the currency symbols near the harvest crafting symbols ?
do i have to pay an orb of fusing to use them if they have a fusing orb symbol ?
its just an icon to tell you what it;s equivalent to compared to normal currency
so if you see a fusing icon, its telling you thats what it'll do... fuse
do seeds craft work on lower level items? if my seeds is level 83 can it craft on itemlvl 70?
or is it +10 above and below seed level?
hey guys, soo... i want to add Defence modifier with harvest to this belt, accodting to CraftOfExile this belt can have 3 Defence Preffix (suffix have 3 mods so its safe)
so... if i craft there Armour and Energy shield will it block +Armour ?
i can add (i think) Defence 2 times and since there's only 3 mods of that type for this belt, i still will be good, but, i do not want to have armour on my belt if its possible
You have 2 prefixes and 3 suffixes. Slamming can give you Armor or es from Body armor. Its 90% to get Armor and 10% to get ES from body
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552615024393322506/733382089293955082/tjll1l8stn851.png
So is this the BEST layout ? 
Pretty much? You can do a Bit less storage with 5k Tanks but yes, as Layout its probably as good as it gets, thoug i personally would movr the horticrafts a Bit, but thats prefference
Thats such a mess^^
Yes..
Storage everywhere, you cant move
i'm gonna change again.. 
barely finished crafting this ring. this league has been insanely fun so far 😄
you should really put fertile catalyst on that instead
yeah that would be good too
that would be infinitely better
@rigid stream sorry just saw your post ) thanks, so that mean if i will have Armour as preff it will block ES from Body Armour?
i have to get a discipline energy shield watcher's eye, so I will remove life gained on hit for another defence prefix
but +max life is also nice
english not my main language sorry, i missunderstood
your current craft doesn't block either mod
ahh that's such a nice belt
My first good selfCrafted item xD
boots are my priority now, then i have to get a nice crafted belt with % inc cooldown recovery speed
i hope i finish crafting everything before league ends lol
wish you luck, last time i rolled ES i got +1 maximun energy shield
yeap, i rolled it for like 10 times today (i farming my seed mostly) and that what i had
though got t1 ES% on helmet today
nice !
I unfortunatly dont know If Hybrid Armor/es Blocks Armor on belts
whats the cheapest harbinger item that can be sacrificed in the exchange harvest craft?
use trade search
Actually, are all items the Same for that craft? Or do full items yield better Results