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frosty aurora
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so 5x5

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earlier people would put dispenser in the place of collector

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and then bother with replacing

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no need for that though

sudden hound
frosty aurora
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as soon as you will do full harvest of t2 seeds you'll get enough lifeforce to craft almost everything for the buildings

sudden hound
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but theres probably more efficient

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I have more than enough buildings, my farm is set up. I just never t2 crafted

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It says I need vivid life force in the disperser, tho I have a fuck ton in the storage unit. I had auto disperse off, maybe I need to do another round?

frosty aurora
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put auto disperse on

sudden hound
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I did, nothing changed. Ill grow more t1

frosty aurora
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then every time to open a cache it progresses

sudden hound
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gotcha, so the fact it was off kinda dicked me lol

frosty aurora
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perhaps

loud lotus
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fuck, t2/t3 AND t4 seeds now party play?

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so every time i want to harvest i have to join a rota

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xD

quasi crest
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@rigid stream I spawned the Hearth of Groove entering the garden within a map... died in a split second... Then I tried to go back to the garden through the hideout, but the boss had disappeared... Went back inside the map, and there isnt the portal to access the garden anymore...

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Please DONT tell me I have to do another 100 maps.

final wolf
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Can you not aug notables onto Cluster jewels with harvest crafts?

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oh nevermind, didnt have enoguh prefixes

rigid stream
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You probably have to do it again, because you Ticked your garden by visiting it in your Hideout and thus Killing the active instance in your map

torpid sonnet
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Anyone tested if lifeforce buds stack?

high cliff
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guys in the pinned garden the blue dispercer near the pink seeds is suposed to be one square down, right?

quasi crest
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@rigid stream I killed her... I found the portal again inside the map... somehow i missed it the second time ! (I managed to kill her only because my bleed build, just hit and go hide)

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And i am extremely tanky (with shield also lol)

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Even then, I managed to survive only because Enduring Cry

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Sirus is a joke comparing to this

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(all this for some fertilizer ?)

smoky yarrow
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so is auto-disperse actually working and I don't have to keep touching them?

livid yarrow
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old t1 seeds seem to be bugged, showing too low lifeforce

granite oracle
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why this disperser don't work? it just only 1 disperser not working, all other disperser i got in there works just fine, but not this one, why? i checked the wiring, should be fine, I have at least 1 max storage in there.

high cliff
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guys is it possible to put the vivid collecters and the pylons without losing a space for a seed?

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(with the pinned version)

mild robin
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Hello, how does one fight Ersi? She is now suspended inair, doing nothing but spawning mobs

weak elm
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@granite oracle Did you figure out why it wasn't dispersing? I'm having the same issue also...

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I have 7 full storage tanks, all of them linked to the network, Disperser wont trigger

granite oracle
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yeah, remove disperser, go next map, put new disperser, and it start working again

weak elm
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weird

granite oracle
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yours look like different issue? im not seeing any wiring on your disperser, it at least gave error message

winged vigil
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what is the general strategy for planting? auto plant t1's and then manually plant t2's and higher?

weak elm
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Disperser is connected to the pylon just under it

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You can tell because its lit up yellow

granite oracle
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oh yeah i see it, your storage have 328+ vivid lifeforce?

weak elm
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But yea it appears to be a different issue!

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Yea I have 7 full storage tanks in my storage area haha

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@winged vigil Correct

grave zinc
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Hello is there a guide on how to set up my farm, im a new player just reached lvl 70 on my first character ever. Any help will be gladly appreciated. Or maybe tell me how much pylons, storage. dispencers and collectors i need..

olive vessel
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there are a lot of farm designs on reddit

grave zinc
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is it really necessary?

olive vessel
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you will probably want 3-8 of each collector, 9++ storage tanks for each colour and 12++ dispersers

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no thats not necessary

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copy the collectors and dispersers, start with fewer storage tanks and expand as needed

grave zinc
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ok will do thx

olive vessel
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my farm is like that but double the number of collectors and dispersers, but you only need double the number if you dont want to plant and harvest as often

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(makes mapping faster imo)

random solar
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can someone recommend a garden layout?

weak elm
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@random solar Their was one on the subreddit yesterday that is pretty top notch. Simple to understand and does everything you will need.

weak elm
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@random solar Perfect!

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You can start with just the bottom right corner and grow from there

olive vessel
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lol that layout is so horrendous

weak elm
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Then you head on over to PoE Harvest's garden website and hand craft him a better one.

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Its a great garden that does everything a player could ask for and is relatively easy to follow and understand.

sinful oxide
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thats a nice layout

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i like that the three T1 sets are right nearby each other

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while also leaving you plenty of space in the middle to fight mobs

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all the storage is hidden away in the corner which is a plus

rare girder
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what type of modifier is intelligence in harvest ?

grave zinc
livid yarrow
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remake the instance

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by using ctrl+click

grave zinc
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ctrl+leftclick wont let me move it

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you canot pick up objects that have been activated

livid yarrow
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i told u, you have to remake the instance

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by ctrlclicking on the garden

grave zinc
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i see, let me try it

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it worked thx a lot

violet nymph
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how do u save crafts to ur hoticraft station>

livid yarrow
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you connect it to the collector with pylons

violet nymph
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yea i did that but nothing happened

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i dont see anything saying to save crafts

livid yarrow
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when crafting, theres a thing u gotta press in that same window

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to the left i believe

violet nymph
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oh fuck sakes

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its so small

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thanks

livid yarrow
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yeah

lusty girder
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do you know if you fracture an item with harvest and miss, can you refracture to try to hit a different mod?

hasty perch
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I don't think so

final wolf
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Why does it feel like my Auto dispense isnt doing anything

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my seeds are still flashing Red, but if I manually click Dispense they grow

solid carbon
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@final wolf Don't worry about it if you have enough lifeforce in store, your seeds are growing

final wolf
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oh i see, yeah I just checked back

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thought something was wrong since they are flashing

solid carbon
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Ya, It's probably a bug, gonna be fixed in like a month or so prophecy

clever crest
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Why can't I autoplant like half of my t1 seeds?

shut magnet
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I just dropped a Fortune Blossom... is this thing as crazy good as the tooltip makes me think it is?

spring walrus
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some of my t1 seeds are not always growing. i just opened a seed cache and entered the area and my vivid leech seed (which should take 3 cycles to grow) is still at 3 cycles to go. known bug?

shut magnet
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Are you running much lower level maps compared to the level of the seed?

terse sinew
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it doesnt even have to be much lower level

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if it is 1 level lower it wont grow iirc

spring walrus
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gotcha. thank you

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mlvl 44, slvl 47 grows, slvl48 doesn't

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i guess you wouldn't typically see that issue unless you're running an alt or going back and doing low level areas

rotund karma
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any way to autoplant t2+ seeds on my higher seed fields? currently i only autoplant t1 seeds and the rest goes manually, which is very tedious

terse sinew
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that only pops up before maps @spring walrus

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no way to autoplant t2+ i believe

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it'll just pull t1 from stash

hazy zenith
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Does the harvest randomize randomize between the same affix tier only?

next epoch
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correct, it behaves like a selective divine orb

winged vigil
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following a layout and learning the harvest mechanic, why does it suggest planting t2 seeds out of range of the collector when growing t3 seeds? unless that's not what it means? I'm almost certain I've misinterpreted what it means

hazy zenith
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that corner tier 3 needs at least 4 adjacent tier 2+ seeds to grow

velvet palm
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It's just to grow the t3s

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The t2s aren't supposed to be growing

winged vigil
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oh okay, so it's part of the requirement

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that makes sense then thanks

terse sinew
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do the horticrafting bulbs tack

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stack*

rigid stream
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With themselves, No. In your inventory, probably Not either. The different types, i dont know

terse sinew
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thanks

vague locust
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Is it me or rare harvest craft are really common with the patch?

runic zephyr
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thats... literally the point of the patch? you read the patchnotes xd?

vague locust
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i know

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but i wasn't expecting that much of a differnece

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which is nice

terse sinew
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it was bug fixed

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then buffed

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so yeah

rigid stream
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I think its a bit too Common, you cant harvest in Peace without getting an ex

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Sometimes two or three per field

terse sinew
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that's a good problem to have imo

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if ggg nerfs it now

rigid stream
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Depends

terse sinew
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people will lose their minds

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and it will feel like a betrayal of trust

rigid stream
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If every Mob dropped an exakted orb

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What would happen

terse sinew
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yes but you're conflating crafted items vs currency

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exalts have other uses

rigid stream
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No they dont

terse sinew
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yes?

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metacrafting

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slamming anything without a tag

rigid stream
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You use them for smallming and benchcrafting

vague locust
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and they are an easely tradeable currency

runic zephyr
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smallming riffLul

rigid stream
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If everything dropped one, you would have Hyperinflation

vague locust
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where craft can only be traded as services

terse sinew
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i don't disagree but that's not what i'm saying

runic zephyr
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who cares if they drop too mcuh, im glad we can have a juiced crafting league

terse sinew
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what i was going to say is, ggg WANTED to break the game as a result of this league

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that's intentional

runic zephyr
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delirium was way too good too, better than too shitty

terse sinew
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they understand it isnt sustainable

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which is all i care about

rigid stream
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Which is gonna happen very soon. Crafts are very likely not gonna sell anymore, certain currency will be dead as well due to the swapping seeds. I Wonder though If that increased the ex value even further or decreases it

terse sinew
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crafts aren't going to sell which is fine imo

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crafts were explicitly designed to be used as is

rigid stream
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Sure

terse sinew
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to not make people feel bad for saving

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or wasting

rigid stream
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But it was a way to make some cash in a League that doesnt drop particulary much

terse sinew
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yeah true

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now it'll be harder

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but good rare more accessible

rigid stream
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Does anyone know the Droprate in groups? If its Worth to do rotas?

terse sinew
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wait a second

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fortune flowers have multiple uses??

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thats broken as fuck

rigid stream
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100 uses

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So Like 4 fields

terse sinew
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i thought it was 1 use

rigid stream
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No

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It has 100 charges

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So 100 seeds

terse sinew
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gotcha

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not as good as i thought but still extremely stronk

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do they drop from caches or mobs

spring walrus
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group droprate reports from guildies didn't seem good

rigid stream
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Mobs

terse sinew
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cool ty

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read patch notes but skimmed

rigid stream
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Droprate Bad as in, not.worth doing, or as in, 50% of what a single Person gets

terse sinew
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that's relieving to hear

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was worried when i read patchnotes we'd be doing rotas

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again

rigid stream
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Still probably effrctive

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I might make an alt marauderthinking

terse sinew
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yeah but not worth going way out of your way for

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i might as well, we'll see

rigid stream
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If i get 2-3 extra seeds per T2/T3 harvest, why not

night niche
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whats the area level gap before seeds dont grow per cycle?

void wing
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-5 or -4, can't remember exactly.

night niche
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thanks

mighty prairie
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why I cannot pick up an empty collector? it says it activated

rigid stream
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click a seedcache that fixes it

mighty prairie
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you mean the stockpile?

rigid stream
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a blue sparkly pod

mighty prairie
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umm, I dont think I have one (?)

ember stratus
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can you stack all 3 types of seed buffs on a field?

rigid stream
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no

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and you have to click the dumb glowy blue thing that appears every zone

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its called seed cache

mighty prairie
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aaaaaaah

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okay, thanks ill try and see

thorny vortex
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or just reset the instance any other way (control clicking on the warp point etc)

mighty prairie
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you can do that with the garden

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but now its okay, probably clicking a cache did it

dense cove
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its not clicking a cache that does it

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its resetting the instance

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it says "activated this instance"

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you can't pick them up if they've been activated in the instance

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so you need to leave, go to your hideout, and control click on the grove icon to open a new instance to fix it. Opening a seed cache can also do it if 1. You take longer than 7 minutes to enter the grove, or 2. You enter the grove from your map

mighty prairie
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is it possible to auto plant tier 2 seeds?

quasi crest
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no

rigid stream
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clicking a cache resets the instance, thats the easier term for someone that might not be familiar with the concepts of instances is^^

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you can also just ctrclick the icon to reset the instance

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and instances dont have a fixed timer its like 7-15 minutes

sharp pivot
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anybody can tell me, where i can find possible synthesise implicit on items?

rigid stream
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poedb

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there are a lot through

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a couple hundred

hexed sluice
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why do they not grow? it says they need wild lifeforce, but they are in the range of a wild disperser a you can see in the 2nd picture

rigid stream
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just run a map

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of at least lv 80

hexed sluice
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thx

left abyss
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btw. i just found out i couldn't swap out the notables in the cluster jewels using Remove/Add modifiers on Harvest.

FML wasted 2 chaos remove/add

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has anybody tried crafting their cluster jewels with augs? will it proc notables?

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why do they not grow? it says they need wild lifeforce, but they are in the range of a wild disperser a you can see in the 2nd picture
@hexed sluice the map you run needs to be about 3-5 levels (not sure on the exact number) from the level of your seed for it to grow

hexed sluice
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i mean, i dont get what the maps I run has to do with the requierement of the seeds to start grow, but okay

left abyss
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your seeds are ilvl80

hexed sluice
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every other seed on that plant (including ones with same or higher lvl) has both marks ticked

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when I planted them

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just those 3 not

rigid stream
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has anyone seen the white socket craft since the patch?

muted sparrow
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boys, is the last pinned plan recommended, i guess?

lone acorn
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anyone know why my auto-disperse would not be working when i have all my dispersers on?

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seems like some seeds are never getting the essence they need

runic zephyr
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if you follow the dumb reddit layouts youre gonna need way more lifeforce to disperse than you can harvest each cycle

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if your tanks are full and the seeds are still flashing red that might be a visual bug, dunno if they patched that one yet

lone acorn
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yeah i still have full tanks connected

lone acorn
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is the pinned garden setup a good one to use?

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the 6/25 pin

rigid stream
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no

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this is probably one that you can follow

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that isnt optimised for the new buff thingies yet, but good enough

primal whale
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"Augment with new life modifiers with lucky values"

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x2

lone acorn
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thx

void wing
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Isn't lucky values just rolling within the tier?

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Would do nothing for getting a high tier.

velvet palm
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Augment is adding a mod

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Not changing it

vapid geyser
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After killing Oshabi, how can you fight her again? Do you just harvest another T4 seed and you can fight her again?

left abyss
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Has someone tried the Remove/Add harvest craft

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it looks bugged. i have tried it 4x and it hasn't worked

old steeple
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how do i sell seed crafts?

sour mountain
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i honestly don't understand why you need that much storage

clear tapir
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i just entered the harvest zone and i cannot click and interact with any of the items there ? Does anybody already got this proble,m ?

primal whale
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@clear tapir Create a new instance of the grove

wise quest
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How hard is a t4 seed ?

cyan otter
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@rigid stream how good is that

celest hound
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I'm having weird issues where dispersers set to auto-disperse aren't actually doing it. They also show the icon to manually disperse, and if I click it, the related storage tanks go down so it's definitely expending the life force. Anyone else experience this?

copper inlet
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whats the best map to farm seeds?

hard totem
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so what's the new "seed" that t2+ monsters can drop now?

violet nymph
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mesa probably @copper inlet

copper inlet
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oh shit yeah, good shout

rigid stream
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The new "seed" are Uh flower thingies

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5 range so 11x11 area

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You place them and they have 1 Out of 3 effects

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20/30/40% Chance of additional craft, 2/3/4x lucky Roll when chosing a craft. 100%/150%/200% more lifeforce

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They have 50/100/150? Charges

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1 Charge consumed per harvested seed

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So you Just slap them next to your fields If you have some you really want to use

hard totem
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nice

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now all we need is a seed that upgrades storage tanks and stations and we golden

gray jackal
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Change a Unique Armour into another Unique Armour of that type
It change for one of the same base, or for anotehr random one?

rigid stream
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Same Type, random base

gray jackal
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k

rigid stream
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Chest to Chest, Boots to boots

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Etc

gray jackal
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would be too easy hahaaha

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ty

rigid stream
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Stations are whatever, you dont use them fast enough to Not be able to manually Swap them, you get maybe 1, maybe 2 per 4 fields

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And full Stations can be stashed for easy searching

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It would be cool to have a way to stash them in the grove with a Special Interface, but thats probably a lot of work^^

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And Tanks... Eh, i have Like... 50-60 per Type? Thats enough for most cases, larger tanks wouldnt really Help that much unless you buy a lot of higher Tier seeds

dense drift
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What's the new seed this patch called? I want to make sure it's in my loot filter

deep lantern
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quick question: which ilvl seeds do i need to craft on ilvl 100 gear ?

latent jacinth
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does the augment seed craft turn a 2 affix magic to rare? like a regal

vapid gazelle
rigid stream
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More horticrafts

topaz hill
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attribute is considered attack mod?

shut magnet
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For the "rarer uniques are worth more coins" craft, is there a resources listing uniques by rarity somewhere?

void wing
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@topaz hill No, check poedb for affix tags.

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@latent jacinth Late but no, it'll tell you that there isn't space for mods.

latent jacinth
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ohh thank you

shut magnet
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I just got 12k Perandus Coins for an emberwake ring

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As trade deals go, I'll call that a good one

topaz hill
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still dont know which option would remove attibutes on harvest crafting

shut magnet
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I don't think one will, it has none of the relevant tags on poedb

opaque mountain
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Is there anywhere channels for harvest craft trading?

round charm
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does harvesting in a rare map affect seed drops significantly?

rigid stream
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quantity affects seed drops, yes

round charm
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last I heard it had significant dimishinging returns

rigid stream
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thats a lie

prime verge
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Hey, I started this league a couple of days ago and just got to mapping. How do i best go about buying specific seeds for Harvest Crafting. I need Thorwolf Seeds that are at least level 72 it seems. Is there any good way on poe.trade to search for that?

rigid stream
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DR starts at like 150% mapquant

round charm
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A lie from bex?

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source?

rigid stream
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you can test it yourself with lifeforce

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there is a DR but its not significant till 150%

round charm
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life force is different than drops

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Alright, Blocked.

rigid stream
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i can tell you that without quant you get 0,5-0,8 seed returns and with quant its 1-1,8

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thats at ~80% quant

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But you wont suddenly get 5 seeds return because you go to 180% quant

sour fox
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How many seed enhancers can apply to each seed?
I know there are three types of enhancers and three tiers.
One enhancement per seed?
One of each type of enhancement per seed (3 max)?
Or do they just keep stacking without limit?

rigid stream
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they dont stack with themselves for certain

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but i do not know if you can use all 3 different ones

wispy vapor
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When I plant T2 seeds, do I always have to click the disperse button the first time or can I just leave them blinking and leave the dispersers ON?

rigid stream
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yes it will disperse with auto disperse on

wispy vapor
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thank you

feral nymph
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hi, what's the meaning of number in the layout?

normal kraken
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in the pinned garden layout?

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if so that's seed tier

feral nymph
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yes, sry didnt specify that

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hmm im still so lost about this mechanic

normal kraken
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if you want to plant tier 2 seeds on the top right you can just replace the 3/4 numbers by 1/2 respectively

spiral cosmos
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I have an armor with 2 open suffixes

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If I benchcraft say chaos res/lightning res can I still harvest craft generic chaos res mod?

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Or vice versa I suppose could you benchcraft chaos/lightning res if the item already has chaos res lol

sharp pike
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+11 to Intelligence
47% increased Spell Damage
Adds 93 to 174 Fire Damage
Adds 22 to 35 Fire Damage to Spells
106% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells
Damage Penetrates 4% Fire Resistance
Trigger a Socketed Spell when you Use a Skill (crafted)
if i were to add crit chance on it, and then use remove non crit add crit
it should remove int right
as if it removes prefix it wouldn't have room to add the crit mod

feral nymph
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hi, how do i empty the stored vivid lifeforce?

devout osprey
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connect to a dispencer and storage then use t2+ seeds to empty it

frigid holly
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Does anyone know what governs the distribution of differnt seed types dropping in maps? I seem to get large numbers of primal seeds but very few wild or vivid. Is there any way to influence it?

rigid stream
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nope its random

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and equal in the long run

subtle vortex
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starting to believe the 6link craft isn't real.

onyx helm
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Any idea on why my t1 seeds arent growing?

subtle vortex
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you're doing too low tier maps

onyx helm
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Ah

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That makes a lot of sense actually

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Thanks

steel current
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so both these flashing purple seeds say they need more blue to grow. but you can see i have the dispersers on and they're firing and i have plenty of blue. i've gone over all the connections a million times. is there something I'm not getting?

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also why do the cables sometimes light up the color of the lifeforce and other times do not?

cyan otter
teal axle
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Hey guys quick question

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I have a ilvl 83 flask duration cluster jewel. 1 suffix. 1 prefix.
Im trying to aug-craft caster mod, theres only 1 available, it works when I reforge and is always spiked concoction

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is there a reason/current bug for aug slams for the whole "invalid mod" thing

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or am I just screwed rn

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nope found it

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when i regal'd it regal'd a prefix and blocked the mod I wanted

solemn fox
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What is infused bloodlines?

vast gazelle
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its a zana mod affix

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so you do the craft and your map device gets a free bloodlines but better option

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until you use it

sonic glen
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anyone else feel like this league sucks for alts? I almost have to make a separate garden for each, but it's still all one - and the low-level crafting feels like it barely has an impact

solemn fox
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Just don't want to waste the mod

sonic glen
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the first time through it felt like I at least was progressing the state of the garden, now it seems like I shouldn't bother until maps

vast gazelle
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i mostly dont bother because its a pain in the ass to waste all that time in garden while leveling now that i know how the mechanic works

sleek dew
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is it me or when I fight harvest monsters I only drop seeds in the first 1-2 s but then the big rares don't drop any? is it because you need to kill monsters near where they spawn or only white monsters drop seeds?

violet nymph
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is accuracy rating considered an attack modifier?

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also is intelligence a caster modifier?

silver trail
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why cant i harvest thesee

vast gazelle
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what does it say when you hover over it

silver trail
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needs 8 fully grown seeds

opal pendant
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What's the maximum amount of seeds allowed within a collectors square radius?

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is it 24?

brittle musk
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Hi, is this a bug? the seeds fully grow but I still need more lifeforce?

silver trail
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same

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can't harvest lmfao

woeful halo
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uh, wrong collector there mate

silver trail
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oh

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WTF

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LMFAO

woeful halo
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imagine what Oshabi is thinking right now

runic rune
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hey guys, can i aug rare item multiple times?

shut magnet
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When my heart of the grove is done, will another start counting up right away or do I need to hit another T4 seed to start it?

violet nymph
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good day exiles.

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do i just need a single tier 4 seed to spawn a boss?

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and if so, i assume its one of each colour to get all three ?

shut magnet
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Yes. The Tier 4 seeds hatches into a sort of miniboss, and then after finishing that you start counting up the heart of the grove to fight the main harvest boss

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You only need to do a single T4 seed to get to the final boss

violet nymph
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ok so one t4 seed = guarenteed early boss (one for each colour) and the heart of the grove seed is guarenteed drop from first 'mini boss' ?

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then just 100 cycle iirc ?

shut magnet
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It doesn't drop a seed for the heart of the grove, something just "happens" in your garden the first time you kill a T4 seed monster

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And then you start the 100 map counter

violet nymph
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ok but the 1 t4 = guarenteed boss and that boss starts the heart is right ?

shut magnet
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Yes

violet nymph
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thank you very much, appreciate the clarification 🙂

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if i want to 'speed run' to the final fight, i could just plant one t4, 4 t3 around it and then auto plant t1s to hit the 10 (is that the min for a harvest?) to complete right ?

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i.e. the t3s dont have to grow, just be there to make the 4 grow?

shut magnet
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Yeah, your T3s wont grow, but if you don't care about that, that's fine

violet nymph
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yeah, and tbh would make the final fight easier as there wouldnt be extra t3 and t2 mobs to help the final boss

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awesome, thanks mate 🙂

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would you say from the patch notes that the final boss is now easier, harder or the same as before (bugs excluded) ?

shut magnet
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I haven't finished my heart of the grove yet. The T4 seed boss was beefier than I expected though, but not too bad. Felt about as hard as a elder gaurdian of the same level maybe?

violet nymph
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ok cool , but ofc we get as many goes at killing it as we need ?

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or can you not spawn it once grown from the hideout?

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and have to use the 6 portals from a map

shut magnet
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I would assume so, I didn't die although I came close. I did it from a map, which I'm assuming boosted the drop quant on it, no idea how that interacts

violet nymph
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i am not sure if i could solo it but feel like the fight might be doable with my mate and our builds synergising

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my VD is good dps and his minions should keep most things away from us

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i hope lol

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anyhow, back to the grind, thanks hfxros

ashen brook
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quick question: if i remove and add a mod - can the re-added mod be the same mod as it just removed (either same or different tier). eg if i have chaos res and i remove/add chaos mod, can i get a tier of chaos res again?

high pike
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What you need to do to be able to build Dispersers ?

void wing
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@ashen brook Yes.

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People use this craft in hopes of changing to a good tier.

woeful mango
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i want more room for storage and have a collector with 1 lifeforce in it. is there a way to get rid of this collector?

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i can't store it, i can't delete it while the lifeforce is in there

violet nymph
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ok i had this problem before but cant recall how i fixed it.

woeful mango
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but you fixed it?

violet nymph
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just updated my garden and one of the dispensers isnt spraying even though it is connected to more than 1200 lifeforce storage.

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anyone know what the quick fix is please ?

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@woeful mango you can either leave it connected until it uses up its lifeforce or carry it. no other options

woeful mango
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that sucks

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ty for helping

violet nymph
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np

woeful mango
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so i dissconnect it from the storage grid and have a disperser pump it dry? "easy" fix?

violet nymph
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yep

woeful mango
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ty 🙂

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i am not happy, but smarter :S

opal pendant
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What's the range for ilvl of seeds to ilvl items?

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ilvl 100 item needs at least what ilvl seed?

rigid stream
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76 can craft on all items afaik

sinful oxide
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im wondering about the fortune flower and how it works

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would it have a noticeable impact on obtaining 6 socket/link outcomes?

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or is it just like using luckly on a .5 or so outcome

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basicly changing nothing

hexed gale
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Anyone managed to kill narharim the yellow seed boss? spawned him out of a t4 but he rooted and I kept killing the minions he summoned for about 2 minutes ran around looking for maybe a way to unroot him and he didnt take damage

raw raven
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can anyone tell me which harvest craft can give me a +1 to all intelligence skill gems on hunter influenced amulet ?

lofty stratus
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i wanna say thats a caster mod

raw raven
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but it doesnt say caster in craftofexile

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it says "gem" and "cat. attribute" whatever that is

lofty stratus
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i wish there was a info on what is caster/phys etc table

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well attributes are pys

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theres an option to select harvest craft under the ex crafting option

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@raw raven

raw raven
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ah tnx I will try that out

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@lofty stratus where is that option

polar snow
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Why it says "You cannot pick up objects that have been activated"? How can I place them in another place

lofty stratus
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the blue option

raw raven
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awesome tyvm !

delicate narwhal
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is it normal that when im at the beginning of harvest i cannot craft pylons and wild collectors???

frigid iris
zinc bane
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Why it says "You cannot pick up objects that have been activated"? How can I place them in another place
@polar snow it happens when you just finished harvesting. refresh instance of your sacred grove and it should be fine.

polar snow
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Ty @zinc bane but how do I refresh the instance

rigid stream
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Ctrl click the grove Icon, click a seed cache

raw raven
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which harvest craft I can use to remove or replace "maximum mana" prefix ?

copper kernel
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none of them

high pike
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@copper kernel hey man i am following your strat that you have pinned for garden. Is there a picture how i need to connect disperser in upper right corner

copper kernel
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im not sure if anyone has made something like that

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you can connect them in any way you want really

high pike
copper kernel
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oh yeah i think you needed to add an extra pylon there

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but my whole garden is offset by 1 square cause i fucked up somewhere

high pike
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Ah i see. I thought i fucked up also somewhere because i could not connect. Aight i just add Pylon no biggie. Thx

copper kernel
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ideally you should have a square empty between your high tier seed collectors

white badge
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Also who made this I wanted to tell them thank you

clear tapir
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question whats exactly the impact of the seed level ?

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for example if i plant a seed level 77

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what does it mean for the possible craft I will get out of it ? it will be level 77 ?

white badge
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you can use items that are up to ten levels above the craft

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so 77 seeds can craft on items up to ilvl 87

clear tapir
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ok so having seeds of level higher than 75 is not that usefull is it ?

high pike
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Right right. I figured that out since on picture there is no tier 4 seeds

clear tapir
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because items are mostly level 85 and lower no ?

white badge
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76 is ideally what you want to target

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at least

sleek rampart
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whats best setup for garden after patch ?

rigid stream
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Still this

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It has a Lot of storage and room for the new flowers

white badge
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Is that better than the pinned one?

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pinned one has one more field for each color

rigid stream
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You can do that one as well, it has less room for Tanks and 4 fields isntead of 3

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Its a Matter of prefference i suppose. If you do delirium and want the Most of it you want more fields, If you want to grow many high Tier seeds and dont want to harvest fairly often you want more storage

lone acorn
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having an issue with this layout

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forsome reason my primal t1's arent reaching my storage tanks

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when i try to condense

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ive followed the connections all the way back and they are connected. Can't figure out why i can't condense back to my tanks

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thats how it is connected

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nm

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found the one that wasnt connected templarHarvest

sleek rampart
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@rigid stream how to conect them all ? can you send pic

rigid stream
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Uh thats gonna be hard, i just winged it, i Just copied it, its not my Selfmade setup

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The Higher Tier Part is easy, the storage is Basically, 1 Pylon has 3 storages + 1 storage. That one storage has a Connection to another Pylon so that every Pylon has 3 unique and 1 shared Connection

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Thats done so you dont waste space by connecting a Pylon to a pylon

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Because If you make a Line of Pylons, every Pylon has a Connection to 2 Pylons and only 2 storages and thus wasting 50% potential

sleek rampart
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that left corner of pic how do you conect pylons on wall left side

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they are surounded with 4 storage each

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5 eaven

placid warren
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does anybody know if its still possible to roll jewsockets on the old cluster jews? i might just be unlucky, but i dont wanna invest too much into it

rigid stream
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ill show you

carmine comet
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@placid warren You mean as the implicit or the other mods? If you want to put the implicit sockets you vender it and it will add them in

rigid stream
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Thats basically how it works

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Its absolutely not ocd friendly and probably not exactly as intended, but this is the concept of what you do

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I didnt copy it exactly hence my setup isnt as nice and tidy

clear tapir
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guys does the craft which gives a chance to get an awakened gem work with corrupted gems ?

left onyx
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So, whats the reason for having to reactivate dispersers EVERY cycle? -.-

rigid stream
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you dont have to

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its just a visual issue that they keep blinking red with auto disperse on

sleek rampart
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can you sell seeds not opened yet ?

tender tusk
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yes

sleek rampart
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where can i find buyers for them

tender tusk
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trade site

main wraith
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Is 5 Collectors for tier1 a bit too much ? (for each seed)

rigid stream
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you usually wont use more than 3-4 per type

main wraith
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Ok ty

hexed sluice
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"reroll the values of suffix modifiers" is acting like a divine?

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or does it roll complete new tiers

rigid stream
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reroll values is a divine

hexed sluice
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thx

smoky yarrow
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so is "auto-disperse" actually auto dispersing? Or is it just a visual bug?

clear tapir
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for seeds level 2 and high, is there a better option than to plant them manually ?

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the auto planting button seem to work only for tier 1

rigid stream
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no autoplant for T2+

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you wouldnt want that anyway cause it doesnt know where your dispersers are

clear tapir
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ok so I have no other way than to plan them invidually manually ?

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another question, when using autoplant with level 1 seeds, does it prioritize planting from inventory ? I thought so but wasnt sure

rigid stream
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yes it prioritizses inventory

hasty perch
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They really need to patch the storage

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Having to have a garden litteraly filled with hundreds of storages that hold a measly 300 is ridiculous

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It's messy and looks really ugly and is annoying

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They could just add a 3000 or 5000 lifeforce craft giving augmented storages you'd buy one by one too but with 3000 storage space

rigid stream
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But then what. You can only use so many harvesters because you are limited by the seeds you get. Stuff more horticrafts in? ehh thats a bit of a hassle its easier to filter them in stash. Have a lot of empty space? ehh maybe? But then it doesnt look as shiny as the base garden is pretty dark

sleek rampart
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@rigid stream your setup is kinda difrent than one you send i think and i have no idea how to conect it all togather

rigid stream
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its the same principle, the hier tier and the lower tier area are the same, the storage is wired a bit differently but as long as you stick to the 3+1 approach it should work out

sleek rampart
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so 3 storages and pylon to pylon ?

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ah 3 storages difrent and 1 same

rigid stream
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yea

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so you never directly connect pylon to pylon as thats a wasted connection

sleek rampart
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4 exalts out of 36hrs of gameplay over all 😦 im lacking in rng

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i mean not drops i mean out of exchanging all currencies and selling stuf

lament timber
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could someone link me a good garden layout?

rigid stream
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i dropped 4 ex this league so far and appearently only 1 gcp

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which is kinda wierd

sleek rampart
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eeeee we can swap if you want

polar snow
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Why some seeds aren't growing? I'm opening a lot of cases in the quarry but some just don't grow

copper kernel
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are they high lvl

polar snow
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70

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and some level 68 aren't growing too

hard totem
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quarry is a lvl 65 area, the seeds only grow if you complete the areas of that monster level or higher

polar snow
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Ohh makes sense, ty!

neat lodge
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No, place them manually

feral nymph
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hi, for the disperser should i make them auto or just off?

celest tiger
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am i missing something, or should that hit unleash?

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rather than having no mods

bronze cave
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looks buggy to me

rigid stream
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Itemlvl?

bronze cave
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Is there even a way to get helmets with ilvl >92?

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oh you mean the helmet could be <80 yeah

rigid stream
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No it could be too Low to Roll unleash

celest tiger
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ah you're right

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it's 75

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:\

rigid stream
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Has anyone Seen the Chaos to exalt seed and has Data on how rare it is?

ruby inlet
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stupid question, I see a visual cue that my harvester is interacting with the storage tank, but the stored lifeforce isn't draining. Does it take cycles or do I just leave it

velvet fern
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I made this layout focusing on making use of the new buds/flowers/blossoms. Each T1 farm is far-enough away from the other T1 farms so that they can have their localized buds with the effect of your preference. There is also a compact T4 farm in a corner with its own Lifeforce bud to make sure it produces enough lifeforce for its own craft outcome.

rigid stream
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I dont think you want to use the lifeforce flowers on T1 seeds

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The gain per enhancement is too low

velvet fern
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Yea me neither. definitely going for outcome enhancing flowers on those. The bud in the picture is just to ilustrate

rigid stream
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And the T4 Plot is bad

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You want a full T3 field with a Couple T4

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Whatever that Guy on Reddit was saying is wrong, as Higher Tier seeds have a massive Quant multiplier for all seeds

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A full field of T2s for example has 100% more Quant and 200% more Rarity and 100% more lifeforce

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I dunno how much T3 gives on a full field, but its even higher

velvet fern
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Yea I'll need to test that. On the other hand though, a full field of T3 might be pretty rippy. Full fields of T2 were already a challenge for me when my build wasn't too optimized.

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Even full fields of T1 can alpha strike you if you plant only lightning seeds. Those lightning monsters attack all at once from range. Gotta consider if you can actually kill the monsters once you harvest.

rigid stream
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Are they lightning? I thought they are cold

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I think they chilled me

velvet fern
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Well each monster granting crafts of a certain element will deal damage of that element. So far for me the most rippy ones were the primal lightning monsters

rigid stream
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Multi Proj haste is very dangerous

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Where they Spam that Icestorm Type White rain

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Its so fast

primal whale
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Does the iLevel of the seed matter in regards to the outcome of a life mod for example?

rigid stream
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No, the item ilvl Matters for which Tier of mods can roll

primal whale
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Hm..

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Cause I'm confused

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I've used iLvl 73 seeds for my iLvl 83 seed and reforged the life roll on it three times and each time it hit t8 life

cobalt wadi
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i love this league, just exchanged 10 clear oil for 10 gold ones lul

past badger
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Thats like exchanging 10c for 10ex

primal whale
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So.. does seed item level matter?

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except for what iLvl item you can craft on

rigid stream
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Seed itemlvl is irrelevant for the resulting Mod itemlvl

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A 65 seed can Roll the Same Tiers as a 84 seed

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The only.difference is what Item they can apply to

primal whale
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Welp.. guess my ring is just cursed then

slow cape
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fracturing an item with the seed craft doesnt reroll it right?

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it just locks a random mod in place?

rigid stream
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Yes

slow cape
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ok sweet

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thx

cunning blaze
sleek rampart
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hey i have blue seeds planted with colectors t1 and they dont get any progres why is that ?

serene summit
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seed lvl?

sleek rampart
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82 i think or lower

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but its tier 1

tawny pasture
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sometime it bug

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try to remove and replant

gritty sierra
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Just wanted to ask about that add synthesise implicit to item. If , lets say , i have perfect rare chest , 6link and everything and i add synthesise implicit on it through harvest. Does it change anything on that chest or it simply just add the implicit?

ornate whale
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is there any decent list of what is considered what modifiers?

rigid stream
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poedb

ornate whale
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oh it displays tags

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exactly what ive been loking for. thanks

tawny pasture
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@gritty sierra depend if the chest have an implicit , like astral plate , its gonna change the all res

rigid stream
sudden hound
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Is there a good diagram for how to place t2+ seeds?

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like my farm is set up and the only way I can farm a full t2 plot is by placing 24 T2s and 4T1s at the corner

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but what about T3?

wispy vapor
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Can I remove the Stun + Block Recovery with a harvest mechanic?

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I'm trying to remove it from this , I know it's just an average helm, but I'm avoiding trade

vast gazelle
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@cunning blaze what ilevel is the jewel

drowsy pulsar
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I'll ask here since it's more tailored to the league. Is there a list of the weapon quality enchantments anywhere online?

gray jackal
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we need a reclain all button 😦

woeful halo
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but what about T3?
@sudden hound
you do the same layout but replace the T1's with T2's

gray jackal
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saw this layout and a i am just so dumb, HOW we connect the Storage to Pylons?

drowsy pulsar
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@indigo wolf Thank you much, I wasn't aware I needed to hunt down the seed list directly

sudden hound
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@woeful halo i actually don't even know how to plant t2s outside abundance. In other words I farm up 28 t2 seeds and place them all. Then 4 of them on the corners for the corner plots in the 5x5

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T3 seeds I assume to do the same thing. Can you only. Plant one t4 seed at a time? And killing 3 makes the last boss some how?

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@gray jackal I didn't know too, until someone told me! And I'm using the very same set up, saw the same exact post. I'll give you this succinct advice: one pylon connects to THREE storage tanks and ONE storage tank connected to another pylon. Basically, start from the pylon that connects to the disperses in the image you showed. Connect that pylon to a storage tank. That pylon and tank is glowing. Connect that glowing tank to a pylon. Connect that Now glowing pylon to three non glowing pylon. Never connect a pylon to a pylon. Pylons only have 4 connections.

glass ibex
raw raven
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does starting the Heart of the Groove encounter ruins your garden ? Im harvesting some T4 seeds dont wanna loose them

eager terrace
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nah your garden will just phase out for the fight

raw raven
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cool tnx

autumn steppe
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Is it possible to link collectors/storage through other collectors/storage with pylons? (aka daisey chaining)
eg: collector - pylon - collector - pylon - storage - pylon - storage?
or do collectors need a direct connection (via pylons only) to storage, and collectors/storage to dispersers?

next epoch
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Yes, pylon-thing-pylon connections work just fine

autumn steppe
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good to know.

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ty

quaint furnace
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Hey guys I have the question:
Does the Topotante prefix on the Wand base which gives both %Fire Damage and flar Fire to Spells counts as a Caster Modifier in Harvest

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I need to remove Cast Speed on my Wand but was scared that the Harvest Remove Caster crafting may remove it

next epoch
violet nymph
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Ok so grove crafts, I know about using poedb to see mod tags but do we have a list of what counts as a caster or a physical mod for the grove?
For example I have a mod that is ‘attack,attack,fire’ and another that is ‘mana’. I assume the mana one is caster? But does the fire one also count as caster or is it only fire as far as grove crafts are concerned?
[8:28 AM]
(For clarity, the fire mod mentioned is adds flat fire and the mana mod is + mana on kill)

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i assume mana and spell would be caster mods, and fire wouldnt?

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or does the grove only count actual caster tagged ones?

void wing
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Mana mods are not inherently caster.

violet nymph
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ok so the remove caster mod in grove isnt going to touch that then ?

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and good day again chill 🙂

next epoch
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AFAIK, "caster" and "physical" harvest crafts only apply to those specific tags.

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Annoyingly, there are no mana crafts in harvest. :/

violet nymph
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ok so i want to remove +mana on kill or %inc stun duration, without risking adds flat fire dmg. there is no sure grove craft for that is there ?

void wing
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I'd have to look at which ones are prefixes/suffixes, but a roll suffix keeping prefix unchanged might work.

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Although, most likely not worth it unless you got some really good prefixes and not a single mod.

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Also, hello 👋

raw raven
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if I have 3x t4 seeds and a bunch of t3 seeds ready to be harvested, can I remove 1 of the seeds and plant the 200x more lifeforce blossom or the blossom needs to be planted when the seeds were first planted

frigid iris
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why even have the option if it doesn't work?

rigid stream
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Cause it does work

frigid iris
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I still have to dispense it myself

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even with auto-dispense

woeful halo
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If you're manually dispersing you're not letting it auto-disperse

rigid stream
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Its Like watering your Front Yard at 7am with a can even though you have a Sprinkler with a timer at 8 am

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Of course they Look dry at 7am cause the Sprinkler hasnt gone of yet

frigid iris
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I expected it to already be dispensed after I interacted with the seed cache

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does it only do it after I interact with another?

rigid stream
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No it Disperses at the Same time

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It Just works

frigid iris
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well, then I guess mine is bugged

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it never auto-dispenses for me

rigid stream
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It never Disperses so the blinking goes away

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It Disperses on Growth cycle so the seed can grow

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It doesnt Disperse before the seed grows, so you will Always See the blinking

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Cause its Not 8 am yet

frigid iris
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that's freakin' stupid

rigid stream
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No its not

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Cause the seed Just grows

frigid iris
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how does that make more sense than it just triggering each time I activate a seed cache?

rigid stream
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It does

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It Just doesnt Trigger before the seed growth

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Meaning, you wont waste lifeforce If you decide to uproot it

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Cause it disperses for the current Growth Tick, Not for the next one

frigid iris
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I'll just do it manually, cuz that's the only way I'll know it actually dispenses

rigid stream
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It does Disperse 100%

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If it has enough lifeforce

frail bluff
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It's a visual bug they need to fix @frigid iris

frigid iris
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oh

onyx agate
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what level seeds is minimum to be able to reforge a ilvl 83 item?

rigid stream
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73

clear tapir
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I have the craft "add random influence to object", on which item / base do you recommend to use it for max profit ?

random glacier
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Came to ask the same question as above about auto disperse

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glad to see I'm not alone and that it was answered lol

random glacier
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exactly my thought yeah

north dragon
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what layout is everyone using for their gardens

serene summit
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This is mine, @north dragon . it's a work in progress, trying to plan head on where I shoud put my leftover collectors for the t1 seeds.

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as the one I have rn, by setup, is more for t2 and above

north dragon
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O_O

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been following on this

serene summit
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I lack most of the resources to do that, but might go for that setup later

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actually, I can make a start on it, right now. will hgave to reset some seeds, but idgaf

sour mountain
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so much dead space

serene summit
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so, I should link the pylons next to the t1 collectors to them, right?

kindred dragon
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If I get to do my garden again, I would go for that design.....

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One thing tho, I moved the pylon for purple and yellow up and down 1 step respectively.

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I found a plant that gives opportunity to harvest more mods, and it fits perfectly there.

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I should port it around really...

indigo void
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how much is life aug ?

tawdry flame
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does a horti station need to be linked directly to the collectors?

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because I have one hooked into my blue system but no option to craft at it, at least not that I can find

rigid stream
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it has to be on the same line only

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you get a new button when you harvest the next time

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its on the left of the craft

tawdry flame
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ohh i see it!

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thanks 😄

dusk kite
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Hi guys, can anyone please send me the most popular and efficient harvest map schema
I try to find on reddit but I couldn't

pure cove
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For the high tier collector, just put 3 different collector, with 1 one free row between them

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and put 3 different dispersers on each side of each collector

dusk kite
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got it
now I just going for T1 and T2 only

steel current
#

What is next best place to plant the flowers? I put the 150 % more life force c flower in my wood t2 and t3 garden but It doesn't seem to count as a "adjacent seed" for four growing them

rigid stream
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it doesnt help them grow

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you just get more lifeforce when you harvets them

steel current
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So do you not plant them in collector range? Or do you pull up a ready seed you used to make it grow and plant the flower in its place?

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okay nevermind. i did not notice the absurdly large range on it

rigid stream
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Yea ^^ 11x11

sour mountain
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voltaxic arcane cloak poison?

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🤔

patent flame
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had a question about heart of the grove, can i just activate it from a t1 map? if i do, is it a disadvantage somehow?

oak kindle
#

Will this only reroll the suffixes or does it reroll the prefixes but keep the same mods in (hopefully allow me to get T1s)

serene summit
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i'm slowly working my way towards it, so I have no idea there. Though, I do have a question regarding harvest. To apply my question, I'd need to have an example.

Exampl: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552615024393322506/729292912604610668/unknown.png

Question: when placing the pylons as shown in this buildplan, in what way should you connect the pylons at the top-right corner (the one with all the dispersers)? With the storage tanks, I know it's Pylon 1 connects to S1/S2/S3, S3 connects to P2 and so forth.

restive turtle
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Hello guys, I haven't touched the harvest mechanic really that much yet so but I heard that you can remove modifiers from items and stuff... Now I was wondering if its possible to remove this specific suffix from my wand and if yes, what seeds do I need? Thx

serene summit
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Primal Viper seeds may be one to look for, and hope it's remove a crit mod

indigo parrot
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Is there a cheat sheet of some sort that explains what can and cant be removed on an item?

rigid stream
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Poedb

indigo parrot
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okay since im pretty bad when looking at poedb, would it be mods, seeds or just harvest in general?

north dragon
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craft of exile

ornate grove
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Does harvest crafting respect meta mods like "prefixes can't be changed"?

tawny pasture
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Yup

ornate grove
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Neat

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Thanks

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So let's say I crafted "prefixes can't be changed" on this and used the craft "remove a non-critical modifier and replace it with a critical modifier" then it should hit crit strike multiplier right?

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Since that's the only crit mod that it can get, the prefixes can't change and the crit modifer can't change.

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Probably a waste of 2 exalts, but whatever lol.

livid lake
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nice, now augment speed mod

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and its pretty dang nioce

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guess you can just aps/quality

ornate grove
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I crafted attack speed quality

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Pretty damn happy with it for being my first time crafting some nice.

livid lake
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nice, now just get yourself a hillock bench to get 28% quality and its done#

ornate grove
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Yep

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Think I might actually craft three white sockets on it and then corrupt 30% with beast craft.

tawdry flame
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@serene summit you can run the line through the disperser. So it's p-d-p

serene summit
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so you cn link the disperser and the pylon across with 1 single pylon? cool.

tawdry flame
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Yeah it can go from the pylon to the distributor, to the next pylon and so on.

celest hound
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I am thoroughly confused why my dispersers, all of which are set to auto-disperse, aren't actually doing it. I have way more lifeforce in tanks than it would take to irrigate plots, but I am forced to manually disperse, which definitely drains the lifeforce so it's not a case of tanks not being hooked up. Any ideas?

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I thought it was a case of having less lifeforce than would be required to irrigate ALL my fields, so the game can't decide which ones to do, but that's not it.

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Oh, so possibly a visual bug?

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Or just looking at the plot between growth cycles?

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Right, ok. So if I go into the grove manually, not as a result of popping a seed cache, then no growth cycle has happened and if I wanted to, I could manually fulfil the lifeforce part myself.

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I see what you are saying re: seeds still looking like they need lifeforce. That's referring to the next cycle

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I guess a better question is: what is the order of events? pop seed cache -> lifeforce dispersed -> adjacency requirement checked -> if everything complete, seed advances one growth cycle?

indigo parrot
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So is there a way to move condensed lifeforce from a collector to a storage tank?

celest hound
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I don't think so ziggie. The collector sort of acts as a tank though, if none are connected.

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It feels like tanks fill first, then if all tanks are full, the collector

indigo parrot
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I found a build from someone on reddit and its confusing for me to use

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2 of the pylons dont even connect to anything, plus do t1 seeds not need a collector to use?

celest hound
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all seeds need to be within a collector to grow, but you can plant a seed anywhere. this is sometimes useful to met adjacency requirements of corner seeds.

indigo parrot
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Can you explain why he has the t1 seeds off in the corners then?

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Is it ment to just plant t1 seeds just to have them for requirements?

celest hound
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I've seen that doc before, those corner plots have implied collectors in the middle of them.

indigo parrot
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ohhhhh i didnt know it was implied since it wasnt there okay

sour mountain
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you just put the T1 seeds off in a section of their own so that you can just go straight to them and run your T1s npnp

celest hound
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I have my T1 plots in corners also

indigo parrot
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So the thing is the 2 pylons for the wild and vivid ah okay its because they connect the other 2 okay nvm im slowly understanding it

sour mountain
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i honestly don't really understand what's up with the mass storage

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also; i like to add dispensers to the t1, just so i can sprinkle in t2s

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i don't see at what point having fields of t3s and t4s is even viable considering the drop rates

celest hound
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I've been building a dedicated T3 field instead of mixing T2/T3, but given how T2 went I'm going to get straight murdered by the T3 field.

sour mountain
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there is no particular reason to even do it?

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unless you want to make lots of horticrafting statiosn

celest hound
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True, there's no partocular reason to do it other than I wanted to. I'm not trying to min/max efficiency or anything like that.

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They grow eventually.

sour mountain
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why is it not efficient

celest hound
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for sure, a dedicated T4 is a waste

indigo parrot
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Now I just gotta hop that I have the storage sections done right.

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Also how do I get the horticraft stations up?

sour mountain
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just throw down the horticrafting station like you would any other object and attach it to the pylon

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then when you're crafting, a new button shows up to the left which sends the craft to the station

indigo parrot
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No I mean like, how do I craft one

sour mountain
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same way you craft anything else

indigo parrot
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Cuz it says 1800 but collectors only hold 50?

sour mountain
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collectors only hold 50 condensed life force, what you need is 1800 raw lifeforce

celest hound
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You will need to pop a T2 field in otder to have enouh for a horticrafting station.

indigo parrot
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How do I manage to get that?

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Oh

sour mountain
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just ignore it until you get to maps, really

celest hound
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not a full field, but a decent amount of T2s at once

indigo parrot
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Would it be a full t2 field or half?

celest hound
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roughly half I'd say, you can look at the seeds and do the math

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they say how much lifeforce they give once harvested

indigo parrot
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ah yes i see that now sweet

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time to count up 1800

haughty oracle
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do i keep a fortunate flower for late game ?

indigo parrot
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iigh so I had enough t2 seeds to fill 3 full plots

exotic hornet
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qanyone have best optimal grove setup

celest atlas
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im still unsure how to find all "defence modifier" or know which onces are defense .. and i couldnt find a page on poedb which just shows all defense or like or something ... is the a little help for that too by now ?

sudden hound
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Is this the best way to set up t2, t3, and t4 plots?

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I dont really know tbh

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obviosuly these are individaul plots, and not yellow blue purple next to eachother

exotic hornet
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does anyone have a layout with horitcraft stations built in

heavy wagon
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anyone with layout of storage tanks so i can maximise the limit#

celest atlas
pliant mauve
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what is considered a growth cycle? for example 3 cycles are 3 sacred grove visits?

storm escarp
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Is the Heart of the Grove supposed to take forever to grow? I'm getting like 0.6% progress every T16 map

proper fable
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hi guys, regarding a craft called, "reforge a rare item, keeping all prefixes". I just want to clarify if it will just change the existing suffixes, but will not touch the current prefixes of the item?

vast gazelle
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@pliant mauve clicking the sacred grove thing in a map is a growth cycle

pliant mauve
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ty

rustic shore
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has anyone else expereinced losing crafts when they store them in the station?

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The first time I thought I made a mistake, but today it just happened again.

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I had 1 aug chaos 1 remove/add chaos, i saved them both and now i have 2 remove/add chaos

midnight tide
rigid stream
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Supporting seeds

versed marlin
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They enable you to grow seeds in the corner plots. Without them the corners would only have 3 adjacent seeds instead of 4. They're T3 specifically to enable the corners to grow all tiers of seeds

rigid stream
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They Help the Corner seeds grow

midnight tide
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Oh, okay. So, they're basically just staying there fully grown. They won't cost any lifeforce once fully grown too, right?

rigid stream
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Yea

midnight tide
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Cool, thanks!

rigid stream
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They cant grow anyway

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Cause they Themselves dont have 4 adjacent

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So they wont eben use lifrforce

midnight tide
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Oh, I see.

rigid stream
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Though i dont think a normal build can do a full T4 harvest

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Even a full T3 harvest is super scetchy

midnight tide
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Gotcha! ^^

rigid stream
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The Monsters are very fast, Hit very hard and their attacks have basically a full Screen range

celest barn
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hello. is there any way to unglitch the heart of the grove boss? i think the boss is stuck in a wall and won't attack me anymore - nor is it vulnerable to attacks.

next epoch
lavish arrow
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Does anyone know if fracturing a mod will still let you divine it later, or is it set as is?

tawdry hearth
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is there a list of possible implicits somewhere? Is this craft generally worth keeping?

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@lavish arrow divine first

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fracture locks it completely

steel star
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asd

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oops

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can someone help me with some harvest related frafting

late rover
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does anyone know if stun and block recovery is a defence modifier?

tawdry hearth
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poedb has the tags

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and stun and block recovery is untagged

brazen mango
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Are resistance numbers considered by harvest crafts to be defensive mods or are they just their own thing?

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Ahh, thx. So the element damage type covers resists, attacks, spells, etc?

trail spade
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I got a "Change unique armor" into another unique armor of that type. Any ideas what's a decent armor to use it on?

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I used a 5 socket craft and 5 socket link to turn some cheap 1-2C carcass jack into a 17C one, which was awesome

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It won't do belts so headhunter is out lol, I tried that first

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Oh ok, never mind it isn't limited by type, it turned my boots into a random other boots. So take any trash unique and gamble.

gloomy bay
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How many storage tanks are people generally comfortable with? I have 8 of each type atm but I feel like I want more to sustain 3 T2 fields

alpine lynx
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Is there someone here that managed to get a 6-link in their harvest? And in that case, from what tier seed?

woeful halo
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t1 seed

alpine lynx
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@woeful halo u got a 6-link craft from a t1 seed? 😒

woeful halo
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Yes, it's the only tier that has socket and link c rafts

alpine lynx
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Dang. What lvl was the seed? 69?

indigo parrot
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So do seeds lose the watering or dispersing over time?

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Ive had to constantly be doing t1 farms just to keep up with the reqs

gloomy bay
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No, unless you uproot them

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Linking your T2 farms back to your storages is good to refund the lifeforce costs after you’ve finishing crafting

indigo parrot
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Hmm cuz I have to reenrgize them every go around with more lifeforce

tawdry flame
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are you using most of the lifeforce?

indigo parrot
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Everytime im going back into my grove it needs to be redone with the lifeforce i dont get it

pastel nacelle
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is there a harvest craft to change strength? Like a remove/add that will change strength? maybe falls under defense or something?

cobalt falcon
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iirc attribute and mana not in harvest craft, but i can be wrong

timber grotto
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best use for T1 targeted caster mods?

split anvil
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If I use a watch stone can I move it again if I rerun that map ?

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Or should I save it until I know how to use them ?

timber grotto
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throw them wherever

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can move them whenever

split anvil
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Thank you

tawdry flame
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@indigo parrot i just want to check - you do know that the higher tier seeds need the life force every turn, right?

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it's not a one-off thing - if the seed says it needs 23 Vivid, that means it needs 23 Vivid every turn to keep growing

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so yeah, you are probably going to need to keep T1 plots going to supply both seeds and LF for the higher tiers

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(although I suspect once you're up and running farming full plots of T2/3s and have crafted all the horts you plan to, you should be good for LF if you're only using/saving the good crafts)

gray zealot
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have you setup T2/3 farms to storages too?

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is there a way to do so?

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like so you can condense the leftovers

tawdry flame
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if the T2 farm is connected to the system, the stuff will automatically go to storage

cobalt falcon
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Connect collector to nearby pylon near your disperser

eager basin
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is energy shield considered as defence in seed table?

void wing
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Yes.

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Armour, evasion and ES.

eager basin
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I see, ty

swift glacier
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% increased stun and block recovery (belt) is in any category?

rigid stream
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Nope

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You have to use normal anulls to get it off

gray zealot
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my T2 farm must not be connected then

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since it wants to discard all lifeforce

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damn

violet nymph
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@swift glacier you could also hope to hit it with a craft like "remove a non-cold modifier and add a cold modifier" but it is still random ofc and could hit your other mods much like a normal annul.

humble oracle
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is harvest crafting (like removeadd/add/remove) remove catalyst quality from items? ty for answer

void wing
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It does not.

quasi crest
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Im looking to get some Life harvest crafts. I know its the Weta seeds that give those. Should I plant a field of only Weta ? Does it make a difference if I mix seeds ?

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For example, if i plant 12 Weta and 12 other seeds in the same field, will I get less life crafts ?

void wing
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No difference, if you plant 12 wetas you'll get 12 life crafts, if plant 24 you'll get 24.

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Each seed gives 1 craft always.

bleak verge
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well.. theres horticrafting flower

void wing
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The only difference is between planting full fields and not full fields since there is a lifeforce multiplier for number of seeds being harvested together.

cosmic glen
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What is the range of Monster Level maps i need to run so that the plants will grow? For example, will my seeds i got in T16 Maps grow when i run T10 maps?

void wing
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There is a -5 level limit.

cosmic glen
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Thanks!

rigid stream
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There is a IIQ boost

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A full field Drops more Higher Tier seeds than a partial field

indigo parrot
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@tawdry flame oh no I didnt know it needed it every cycle, shit well crap

bold ether
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is it seeds above lvl 76 that works on all items?

rigid stream
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Yes

bold ether
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thanks!

quasi crest
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Still about seed levels, is there any difference between lvl 81 and say 83 (only talking about crafting options)

rigid stream
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no

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83 monsters drop higher maps though

vapid gazelle
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Is due to one of the blossoms?

rigid stream
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no

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its a T3 yellow seed

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that adds 10 blue/purple crafts

delicate plover
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can connect pylons from bottom stairs to top stairs

vapid gazelle
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ah Thanks @rigid stream

rigid stream
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np

violet nymph
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Yo this league wack as fuck

void wing
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Ok templarthumbsup

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grave niche
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if you have 3 prefixes on an item and one of them is flat life and you use remove life add a new life modifier will it only add a suffix life mod or can it take the prefix flat life and add a new prefix flat life again

coarse moon
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it can do that yes

versed bolt
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hey, if you use an item that doesnt have a fire mod on it but use the recipie remove fire mod and add fire, will it still add the mod and would it remove anything?

flint anchor
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where to sell harvest crafts

tender tusk
delicate plover
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in the first pinned setups, where do I plant t 2 seeds?

rigid stream
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on the T4 spot

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you wont ever fill it with T4 seeds

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so you plant T2 untill you have 24 T3, then you plant T3 and start with T2 again till you have enough T3 to make a mix field of T3 and T4

delicate plover
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Thank you I will try that

hard totem
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so can you harvest craft on ilvl 100 bases or does that not work, cuz seed lvls and stuff?

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love ya, ty

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didnt wanna buy a ilvl 100 astral plate base just to find out i couldnt craft on it

olive steeple
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hi, can anyone confirm wether or not "remove non-influenced mod" is a thing that exists?

vast gazelle
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does that mean level 76 and up crafts are good to craft on anything in the game

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and do we know if theres a difference running higher tier

rotund atlas
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does anyone know if you can do a cold resistance -> fire (or lightning) resistance craft on this incursion mod? (hybrid cold res with +#% inc damage against chilled enemies)

serene summit
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if it has an open suffix, you can craft additional cold/fire/lightning res

rotund atlas
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problem is my particular situation i have no open suffixes -- i have an excess in cold res and just wanted to know if that interaction would work. i would try it myself but i dont have a cold res-> X res craft on me

serene summit
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I mean, you can remove mods with harvest craft, but that's a gamble in itself

bold basalt
rigid stream
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Temple mods are different

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At Most its Gonna add a normal Other res, it will 100% Not be another temple mod

gritty raven
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This probably was asked a bunch of time but can you move a harvest craft once it is inside hoticraft station? Like move it to a new one for trading

pearl wing
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do party members get seeds, or just the leader/map owner?

rigid stream
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T1 seeds Just map owner

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And No you cant movr the craft, but you can Just Pick Up and stash the whole station

celest atlas
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@gritty raven yes sure you can move everything all the time also storage

rigid stream
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He is talking about moving a craft from 1 Station to another

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Thats Not possible

celest atlas
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oh

sand herald
mortal yarrow
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@sand herald remove defence but will be tricky

sand herald
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are cold res and life also def or ?

mortal yarrow
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Cold res is

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Not 100% sure about life

sand herald
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ah, oof..., thanks for the info, need to prepare another str int + str necklace before i try to do anything to this one 😅

mortal yarrow
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Good idea

vast gazelle
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Cold res is not a defence mod

mortal yarrow
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You sure?

vast gazelle
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Defence mods are evasion armour and es

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Yep

sand herald
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oooh

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nice

mortal yarrow
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Hmm I thought I got a res once when I slammed augment defence on one of my items

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Mb then

vast gazelle
mortal yarrow
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Would but on phone D:

sand herald
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that's such a perfect roll except that es (agnostic keystone) ☺️, thanks

mortal yarrow
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Vulpine my bow is refusing to hit +2 bow gems D:

leaden storm
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you doing add/remove attack?

mortal yarrow
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Augment, add, add/remove

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With open prefix

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It just doesnt want to

leaden storm
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f

mortal yarrow
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Ikr