also there should be a stash tabs sale next weekend
#1┃mirage-league
native sonnet
mortal bridge
okay if they get brought down to like 50% i might buy 2
where do u get reosurce stashes
gray zealot
Eternal Labyrinth of Fortune
Eternal Labyrinth of Opportunity
Eternal Labyrinth of Potential
hasty perch
it seems good to upgrade there's a lot of "low level exalts"
gray zealot
endgame lab also enchants weapon/armor?
gray zealot
the harvest crafting can enchant armor weapon too so im just assuming things
marsh pivot
are the crafts revealed to you permanently once obtained?
or is it specific to that harvest
and removed after
wild arch
Specific to the seeds
lyric ore
the chest enchants are just changing what quality does
wild arch
You can save them for later for a very high essence cost
Oh damn the alternative quality enchants sound sweet
Wonder if you are allowed to craft those onto uniques
barren ingot
seems the meta if you aren't a big crafter is to spam seeds to get tier 3/4 and sell those
spare axle
barren ingot
they're all very desirable and crafters can just save the ones they can't immediately use
violet nymph
calling it now
the station that allows you to save craft is only available after you kill the last boss
lyric ore
"You may also eventually find a way to store crafting options for later use via a Horticrafting Station. This, like other infrastructure elements, will need to be connected to a Collector to function, but can store a limited number of crafting options indefinitely."
eventually
yeah
or maybe one of each T4
violet nymph
anyone has a good guide for basic harvest mechanics?
vast gazelle
yes! theres one in #ggg-tracker
<@&174997701513969665> ^spoiler spamposting (yay gone now sorry for the ping)
native osprey
✅
violet nymph
ty
native sonnet
since 3.11
vast gazelle
hmm, theres another 10% up by divine judgement
does this mean that 100% phys to fire conversion is accessible on tree now 🤔
harsh bone
1 cycle = 1 map right?
vast gazelle
afaik yeah
silver kettle
harsh bone
But tier 3 seeds requires 15 cycles. Isn't that a bit much for the average player?
native sonnet
viper, still no official/public info on ilvl/restrictions right? =/
harsh bone
It still heavily support faster clear builds
wild arch
Adding 1 more exerted attack won't cause general's mirages to attack one more time right?
native sonnet
aight, just checking maybe i missed smthg, thx
wild arch
vast gazelle
@harsh bone 15 maps isnt that big a deal, especially if you pick fodder maps and open them to collect seeds for whatever reason
dont need to waste time on fullclears if all you are about is your garden for some reason
violet nymph
i'm gonna fucking regret this
harsh bone
Fodder maps? @vast gazelle
hasty perch
no need to even be chieftain to pure fire phys stuff
vast gazelle
yeah just run white maps with layouts that find seed fast
harsh bone
Sure, you could do that, but it's such a waste and you gonna quickly run out especially if you're doing higher tiers like 14-16
hasty perch
roughly
it's hard to run out of maps even in higher tier if you juice a bit as long as you clear like 2/3 of the mobs
harsh bone
Yeah "if"
harsh bone
but if you want to get 15 maps quickly, juicing them and doing the full maps is not fast
violet nymph
I'M STARTING SLAMS AND MY LIFE WILL BE BAD
hasty perch
if you just want to pop an encounter you can just speedrun random alched low tier maps ignoring most stuff yes
harsh bone
You can't just run low tier maps, if the seeds are higher tier you need higher tier maps
hasty perch
how's the limit?
harsh bone
It's based on monster level
hasty perch
same color? same tier?
harsh bone
idk
hasty perch
i'm drowning in T14/15 last leagues should be fine tbh
harsh bone
but you can't get a monster lvl 83 tier and run a white map
hasty perch
that's a good thing
i'd honestly hate the optimal playstyle to be zoom through beach T1
kind crag
gl bois
wild arch
Tabula is nice and all, but wanderlust is where it's at
vast gazelle
hackervoice im in
wild arch
None of my friends are ready to play atm so I guess I'm waiting 
proper turtle
cat stepped on Esc when in queue fml
mortal bridge
when do u do league mechanic during levelong?
wild arch
Lmao
@mortal bridge there's a chest in every zone
Blue roots will grow and point in its direction if you're close enough
normal matrix
How do I "activate the collector" after going through the portal?
normal matrix
is there a requirement for it to show up? I have the 8 fully grown seeds around the collector
ah nvm, found it now
thanks 🙂
next epoch
Since the item is magic, not rare, it can only add a suffix. I suspect it's failing because there are no physical suffixes for that item type, at its item level
gilded sluice
it should still be able to craft this, no?
next epoch
That's a prefix.
gilded sluice
ah
next epoch
The item already has a prefix ("Frosted"), so it can't add another.
gilded sluice
I see what you mean now
that makes sense
btw, is this the iLVL of the seed?
"Level 9"?
next epoch
Not sure. I meant that the affixes may be limited by the level of the item, which I'm assuming is pretty low
But actually, it looks like the only physical suffixes for 2H axes are influence mods. So the level doesn't even matter here
dull atlas
how tf do i turn on the thing again after planting seeds
tellin me i need to grow seeds idk how tf to do that l0l
gilded sluice
ok, cheers for the info @next epoch
next epoch
https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Two Hand Axe may be a useful reference here -- notice that there are no "physical" tags on the right side until you get into the elder mods and whatnot 🙂
gilded sluice
yeah, did see that
hushed hull
i was crafting in the grove and i was booted back to login and lost my remaining lifeforce so...
fervent minnow
anyone else can't activate the collector?
gilded sluice
what's the difference between these 2?
fresh wyvern
how do i craft storage tank that costs 75 while my collector can only store 50 energy?
torpid prawn
how do i feed tier 2 seeds with dispensors?
i placed them between tw collectors and also near the tier 2 seeds and nothing happens
robust fjord
small wigeon
how do i get this vivd one? im very confused
wild arch
Find vivid seeds
fresh wyvern
how to craft additional storage tank?
primal ether
violet nymph
Loving the league mechanics so far
@primal ether Pylons connect your stuff
like redstone
slate tartan
Ooh, there's a little icon next to "Condense" that lets you craft on the stash instead of inventory.
violet nymph
yeah it's a very relaxed league
south aspen
This league is very cool
tawny bronze
i have a full collector connected by pylons to a storage tank and nothing happens. any help?
frosty basin
how to craft additional storage tank?
I have the same question.
It requires 75 to craft, but my collectors can only store up to 50.
violet nymph
@gilded sluice> what's the difference between these 2?
@gilded sluice @gilded sluice the ilvl
It requires 75 to craft, but my collectors can only store up to 50.
@frosty basin my guess is you’ll need to fill the first storage tank to atleast 25
and use the 25 + 50 of the collector
frosty basin
I have already done that
inland summit
Tyller is a machine
frosty basin
I don't see a way to use 25 + 50
crude eagle
yeah I don't see it either
unless your suppose to plant t2 seeds and get it from that
frosty basin
guess someone will know by tomorrow :P
fervent minnow
your collectors probably needed to be connected by pilons?
crude eagle
I think you get enough life force from T2 seeds to be able to make one, testing rn, will update once I know if it works
gusty gust
what does it mean if i can't move a collector because it says it's activated even though there's nothing planted
violet nymph
the hortocrafting station craft takes 1800 lifeforce lmao
prisma epoch
crafting cannot use storage ???
crude eagle
Yeah, storage seems to be for growing plants
frosty basin
did we get patch notes explaining what the newest three Blessing of the goddess items do?
untold dragon
Wintertide brand will do flat damage on activation even though it isn't mentioned on the skill. This let's you proc EE if you just have any flat lightning or fire damage on your gear/jewels.
lyric wagon
I have fully grown seeds, cant harvest? (says need at least 1 fully grown seed)
frosty basin
I believe you need 1 additional grown seed - you can't harvest if you have too few seeds
frosty basin
6 is not a lot (edit: actually they could be enough)
frosty basin
also they must be in its square
frosty basin
it's fine
real elm
how do i pylon collectors together
frosty basin
first click the pylon, then click the collector
then click the pylon again, then click the other collector
but I don't think that achieves anything
you need a pylon to connect to the storage
or to the... dispenser
real elm
so without storage Condensing lifeforce is useless?
frosty basin
I'm not sure, but I think that it increases the chance of next level seed dropping
after I condense it, I can't move it to storage - it stays in the collector
and I can't spend it either
wicked oak
The early seeds make leveling very fun lol
proper turtle
why doesnt the sprinkler spray yellow from tank to the plant in bottom left
amber carbon
does anyone know how i can move garden stuff around? can't seem to pick up collectors and stuff once they are placed
next epoch
control click it
amber carbon
ahh, ok ty
violet nymph
it shows the seeds are fully grown in green text but i cant cull them
rustic ocean
Anyone else getting the message 'cannot pick up objects that have been activated'
hardy ibex
Can't seem to stack lifeforce collectors, tis a bug?
crisp dragon
k I'm confused on tier 2 seeds, I satisfied both the requirements (adjacent seeds & dispersed correct lifeforce), set disperser (yes, connected to correct type of lifeforce) to auto-disperse, and both check marks are checked on the planted t2 seed, but I came back 3 cycles later and its still showing 0 growth progress (despite still having both boxes checked for requirements to grow still, saying 0 more required for both)
what am I missing here?
the seeds around it were planted the same time as it
and they grew fine
violet nymph
is it intended that party members dont get growth progress or seeds if they don't create the zone?
supple mango
I'm stuck on "Connect the Disperser" when I go to the garden. I don't see that I actually have a dispenser?
I have collectors, storage, and pylons, but no disperser.
crisp dragon
no insight on the tier 2 seed thing? I'm at my wit's end here, I'm doing what the game told me, the game's UI says it should grow, its not growing
untold dragon
@violet nymph your collector already has wild juice so you can't collect the yellow. and I think you might be under the minimum number of wild plants to harvest. you can pick up the collector, put a yellow collector down and then harvest... you can pick up collectors and it will save the juice
fallow canyon
I started a harvest encounter, killed all the enemies i could find, but the encounter hasn't ended. Is there a way to force it to end or renew the instance?
livid pecan
proper turtle
boots cant have an attack modifier for example
valid ingot
How do I harvest the grain
next epoch
you need a tool, obviously. didn't you ever listen to navali? 😉
next epoch
lol, ggg just global announced the control-click thing
brisk elk
should i condense the lifeforce?
proper turtle
if you are done crafting sure
tame crown
Which lifeforce collectors should I be crafting for them to generate the most currency?
violet nymph
How do I get the yellow and blue collectors?
I only got the purple one and now i got tons and tons of yellow and blue seeds
no quest from the npc lady
lean lark
somebody explain harvesting tier 2 seeds to me like i'm 5, because what seems obvious is not fucking working
real elm
Craft the other colors, scroll down on craft screen
balmy hound
@lean lark from what im figuring out you need to connect pylons to disperser to a storage tank, this is your sprinkler ,the sprinkler has to be in range of the seed, to spray it with the correct stored life force, then surround the seed with the correct other seeds it wants
lean lark
oh god damnit, dispenser connected to teh wrong color tank
orchid plume
This disperser stuff is getting on my nerves
brisk elk
can you move the collectors? or one you set it down it is permanent?
onyx helm
You can move them ans they will keep their current lifeforce
brisk elk
this is kinda confusing is there a guide out htere about dispensers, storage tansk and pylons
hasty perch
Hm so it seems that it's better to have 2 of each and use one for the seeds you want to use and the other to gather life force to transmit to other plants and geow t2+ seeds using the life force of the seeds t1 you don't want
The beginning is just a bit confusing then it's ok
real elm
you can pylon one color to another?
violet nymph
it seems like some seeds don't actually grow after a growth cycle, I have a full 5x5 of t1 primal seeds but the only seeds that are getting growth are the ones on the outer ring. the 8 closest to the collector haven't grown
balmy hound
i havent had an issue with seeds not growing unless your not meeting the needs of said seed
flat flare
kk
violet nymph
what do you mean "not meeting the needs of said seed," is there an additional mechanic that's hidden or not shown on the various tooltips
balmy hound
not for t1 seeds theres no requirement its only t2 and up but they wont grow unless you check the boxes, even if you put them next to the wrong collector theyll grow
violet nymph
it seems like it's just
arbitrarily picking certain seeds to grow and ignoring others completely
I then I have the same configuration for wild but it's doing this instead
the ones that are at zero growth just stay at zero growth
there's a good chance that I'm a moron and am missing something painfully obvious, but I can't figure this out lol
eager slate
is there a way to remove seeds from plots?
violet nymph
just found another seed cache, incremented all of the wild seeds with progress by one, everything that was at zero growth remained at zero growth
pearl fossil
I don't get it. How does shit get to storage tanks or dispensors? My dispensor couldnt collect grown seeds, and I can't seem to send shit to it or a storage tank, from a collector that has life force.
pearl fossil
I have a polon conecting them
balmy hound
dispensors dispense, not collect, storage tanks only hold theres no way to transfer, they only hold overflow
pearl fossil
How do you get stuff to a storage tank then? I see no commands to do it.
real elm
pylon link
pearl fossil
It is
balmy hound
there is no command you have to connect with a plyon then harvest extra life force
if you spend your life force to craft it will not ever over flow into storage
it has to over flow
pearl fossil
So a storage tank can only grab overflow from what a collector holds?
Or is it from just the one crafting session?
balmy hound
it only takes the over flow
balmy hound
over flow life force into storage tanks then connect storage tank to a dispensor
hasty perch
That's why you want to manualy plant
The seeds you don't like go to generating life force to grow seeds t2
pearl fossil
How do I get 7 more units to this stupid thing? It's in a harvestor that's almost full.
balmy hound
place a dispensor close enough connected to purple storage tank
one single pylon can go from, collector, to storage tank to dispensor
the dispensor will distribute life force from storage and collection as needed
pearl fossil
So I have to waste another hole fucking batch, to have it go to a storage tank, to then have it go back to the fucking plant, because there's no way to get life force out of a collector that's sitting on it's ass doing nothing with that condensed life force?
tame copper
This is..really tedious
real elm
IT SUCKS
hasty perch
Seeds t2 need life force from other types you spend with dispensers on them
balmy hound
you can use the life force out of the collector
hold on ill show u
1 pylon linked 3 ways
pearl fossil
So your dispensor is only getting like three rows of stuff?
balmy hound
yea that one is but what i was showing you is the dispensor is pulling life force from collector and storage
rich mortar
pearl fossil
So dispensor's don't actually grab life force from the plants, right?
pearl fossil
only from collectors and storage tanks?
balmy hound
correct
violet nymph
I think seeds around collectors get a limited amount of growths handed out, like each cache hands out 1 growth to 8 seeds or something like that
pearl fossil
So now that I have a pylon connected to a collector, and a dispensor, and the dispensor is within range of te collector, how do I push that collectors life force to the storage tank?
balmy hound
you cant but the dispensor will dispense it
pearl fossil
how?
balmy hound
only the over flow will go into storage tank but the sprinkler will spray it on crops so, plant your t2 near the dispensor that needs that life force and it will spray it on the crop
pearl fossil
but only after a crafting session
so there's still a butt-ton in the collector doing nothing and now ay to get it out?
balmy hound
after any "cycle" wich is any time you find seeds in a map
so if your collector is connected to storage tank, you can tell it to store the extra if you dont want to craft, it will now go to storage
dispensor will use anything that is in collector first then will resort to using storage tank if its connceted to both
pearl fossil
So it should be, T1 plot = collector, shitting life force to the storage tank. Dispensor on T2 plat until everything is grown, swap to collector, craft, shit back to storage tank, replace with dispenser?
balmy hound
maybe not even just t1 but you will find t2 seeds that you dont want, if you are a caster, attack modifer seeds dont help you much, let those grow and harvest the life force for storage or crafting
but yes you are correct, youre going to be growing a bunch of stuff just to collect and some stuff to use
pearl fossil
minion build, so I don't know that any are good;
frigid jasper
Hey guys, is there a way to move or remove pillons?
pearl fossil
control click
barren ingot
oh so dispensers only work from storage tanks?
balmy hound
im sure youll find some, LIFE crafts, color sockets, links,
@barren ingot no they also work from collectors
barren ingot
oh okay whew
frigid jasper
Oh, ty @pearl fossil
balmy hound
collector will run dry though
violet nymph
keepin it drained of seed, you feel me
simple shore
i thought they nerfed brands so they appear where u are after being dropped
barren ingot
hm, guess then i should only hook up dispensers to tanks so it i don't wind up wasting seed juice i'd like to use
simple shore
why are they still chaining way offscreen?
pearl fossil
holyf efin GGG, give's a diareah plant all button but ont a collect one....
and how do you pick up a collector that's activated? I see no way to de-activate it, and no plants are around it...
balmy hound
you can control click any of the structures to move them or pick them up, im not sure what it would do though if u already have seeds growing havent tried
pearl fossil
balmy hound
control click it
pearl fossil
That's the message I get...
balmy hound
not sure what that means, maybe zone out of and back in?
pearl fossil
No idea. Fucking it until maps.
waste too much time with this shit while there's more important things to do and peole that like scratching their nails, on a chalkboard, cant bother with this. Thanks for helping me a bit with this.
balmy hound
yea im only messing with it for a little while everyhing im doing is temporary until i get farther also
simple shore
i dunno ive been just crafting everything i get to help me lvl
pearl fossil
Okay, ya, so you have to advance the clock/reset instance to pick up your collectors that have just harvested.
crisp dragon
k I fucking swear, I think some of the dispenser mechanics are bugged or something
real elm
just wait for the full guide by a player on reddit 😂
crisp dragon
I have a dispenser set up with far in excess of the required vivid juice for a single t2 seed, was going a-ok for 3 turns, now the plant is flashing red, plants around it haven't changed, source still has way more lifeforce than needed, dispenser's even doing the fucking spray animation, but the plant says it needs more vivid lifeforce to grow
vivid crag
Does going into an instance but not clicking the seed pod grow your garden a cycle?
balmy hound
yes stu
vivid crag
i wondered why i hadnt opened any and all of a sudden it was all done lol
crisp dragon
a full guide isn't going to somehow make my dispenser setup which was working then randomly stopped working despite still having the required setup get fixed
vivid crag
also does anyone know if we can get other league specific uniques from the unique trades? 😛
crisp dragon
see how it has the box "unchecked" for vivid lifeforce despite there being a dispenser spraying vivid lifeforce right there? (it's the only valid target for it, so its not something else taking it)
and there's over 50 vivid lifeforce in the source
so its not a matter of running out
languid path
the disperser only works once per cycle
crisp dragon
and?
languid path
open a seed cache and come back
crisp dragon
its been like this for 3 cycles
languid path
there will be an icon to activate it
languid path
did you turn off the disperser before opening the new caches?
languid path
the disperser has 2 modes, on and off, if you turn in off then the new cycles won't do anything
crisp dragon
it literally won't let me interact with the dispenser
it says something like
"can't move when activated"
crimson linden
Hey quick question, how is a growth cycle defined?
crisp dragon
and its doing the spray thing
balmy hound
end your cycle, go into the instance from your hideout see if it letsyou interact?
languid path
disconnect the pylon, open a cache, go back and it will let you remove it
I've done this like 10 times now
crisp dragon
No, I just addressed that
when the other guy said it
it's been like this
for a few cycles now
is it that hard to believe that a new league mechanic might be bugged?
because that NEVER happens, right?
real elm
check GGG tracker
balmy hound
i understand that, thats why im saying try to enter your instance from the waypoint or hideout instead of from a map instance see if it changes anything
lean lark
i'm having the same issue as Gul
languid path
sure, if you believe it bugs then there's nothing to do, I'm just giving you advice in case it's not
lean lark
defintely bugged
crisp dragon
I mean, the "advice" isn't very helpful
languid path
I mean, that's how you're supposed to fix it, if you really think it's bug then no advice on earth is gonna be helpful
it's only useful if it's not bugged
crisp dragon
I pre-loaded the context specifically so readers would understand I had a basic idea of how it worked and what I had tried
languid path
which you and I can only guess
and I have no idea if you're just the other 50 people I already helped with the same problem
and it fixed for them
or if it's really bug
crisp dragon
your "advice" would be like when I go to IT at work and say "hey, I'm having X problem, I've tried Y but it didn't do anything" and they say "Have you tried Y?"
yes IT, I tried Y, I just told you I tried Y
balmy hound
go to control panel hit uninstall, right click the server hit leave server and go install mine craft
ez clap fix
real elm
agreed
undone fulcrum
Why do that when he can stay and complain about peoppe trying to help?
balmy hound
for real lol
languid path
believe me when I tell you the 50 other people I tried to help also told me they tried to do Y when I asked if they did Y
crisp dragon
ignoring what I wrote to give "advice" that he wouldn't give if he read what I wrote is not helpful
languid path
and like 234567 other people with 50 other mechanics in the game
violet nymph
So anybody figured how we’re supposed to craft another storage tank?
balmy hound
@violet nymph wait until you have a full plot of seeds that you dont want, plant enough that total enough life force, to over cap the collector, and craft a storage tank
languid path
a full square of lvl 40+ seeds should give you enough life force for a new tank
shy belfry
what lvl can a witch get the arcane brand?
sonic glen
do seeds not advance if I open caches that are in too low level of a zone?
vivid crag
So now ive got my dispensor full and all the seeds ready, how do i harvest it lol
violet nymph
add a collector
vivid crag
for level 2 purple seeds?
sonic glen
depends on the seed
I have two level 2 yellow seeds, one needs blue energy the other needs purple energy
vivid crag
all 4 of my purple seeds needed blue energy and are full now, along with rest of garden done,
vivid crag
yeah its full of the normal ones too tier 1
you need them around em to fullfill the conditions
sonic glen
then hit the button on the collector and kill the things?
sonic glen
I haven't grown tier 2 yet myself
vivid crag
thats what im sayin
sonic glen
sure the color on the collector is right?
sonic glen
yeah. you have to set up a pretty good feeding system to get the higher tiers
quaint topaz
anyone have this happen to them?
happens when i click the hammer to craft as well, game crashes after
vivid crag
How do i get the stored energy in my collector to move to a tank?
next epoch
quaint topaz
cheers
steel plinth
hey guys if you dont use lifeforce do u lose it later?
fathom oriole
what's an optimal garden setup?
candid heron
Anyone have issue with auto disperse
I fulfilled everything and it's not turning on
violet nymph
hey guys if you dont use lifeforce do u lose it later?
@steel plinth yes unless you condense it somewhere like a storage tank
sonic panther
How to move collectors? , placed trashy near npc and chest 🙃
next epoch
control click
cloud geyser
the craft that lets u potentially double div cards crashes my game. anyone else get this?
next epoch
yes, afaik all of the div card crafts are currently broken
cloud geyser
ah ok ty
dull atlas
why the fuck cant i move life force to storage tank
lmao
i've also set up collector->pylon->disperser->tank
keen pilot
Am I missing something here? why is this not working? I linked a collector (with condensed life force to a pylon which connects to a disperser)
dull atlas
@keen pilot this is how you havee to do it
i think the disperser needs to be in range of the seed that needs it
keen pilot
mmm thats weird because mine is indeed within range
dull atlas
keen pilot
as for the tank I think it will starts filling during your next visit
at least thats how mine did
inland summit
so, after the disperser batch is ready, how do I hatch them?
dull atlas
has to be same type tho right
dull atlas
ah i thoiught it would take what i condensed before placing tank
which is what was pissing me off lol
keen pilot
yeah I thought it will start doing instantly too
pallid python
Any interesting mechanics so far? I can not start until Saturday evening or possibly Sunday so I'm using y'all as beta testers 😈
south plover
need condensed wild, have it plugged up to condensed wild, still won't grow. previously was fine, anyone know whats up? just a bug?
limpid wigeon
i have a question about the farm does anybody know if dispersers squirt juice out for each plant, or does it just juice for the thirstiest plant and everything gets fed
behold my fuck ugly farm
quick raven
Does anybody have good layouts? Here is my current one that should be able to do T3 seeds without needing too many pylons/dispensers
keen pilot
oops jk. My setting works. Ignore the checkmark. As long as theres a disperser feeding matching life force type to target seed, it will grow
after a few more visits it did grow
lusty egret
is there some link that explains how this harvest mechanic works, and what you sohuld and should not do
I dont see anything in the ping
pins*
woeful halo
Probably that one that can give attack speed% per quality, just and example there are other modifiers
modest pebble
ah nice
I should save this for much later then huh
wait nvm its ilevel48 I should use it now xd
unique jay
Hey guys if I harvest seeds but dont use the craft, will it be available next time i harvest or do i have to use it right then
ocean narwhal
There doesn't seem to be any rules regarding pylons outside of 1 colour only and the maximum distance a pylon can reach
vast gazelle
im assuming t4 requires all 3
ocean narwhal
It might just need 2
but the big thing is the amount it needs
that t3 seed right there for example
needs 21 lifeforce per growth cycle
and has 11 growth cycles
thats like 230 juice of both colours
thats a lot of juice
vast gazelle
yee
ocean narwhal
How much juice is it for the horticulturists table anyway
Horticrafting?
the number looks glitched out to mee
I dunno if t3 seeds need the t2 seeds to be growable though
no wait it should be fine
I dunno how you'd grow t2 seeds if one of the things adjacent is a t3 seed after all
grim sparrow
Guys is there a video or guide explaining how to use the seeds and all the thing ..just started , I thought I had an idea about everything but in game everything looked confusing !!
gusty gust
you get stuff you need as you progress the quest one step at a time and it will make sense if you read everything
chrome quail
It wont let me click the very first collector you get, the one with the 8 plants already grown around it?
winged quail
is there anyway to reset our harvest area?
I have randomly placed some seeds around before I understood what to do with harvest. I can't remove them.
river crag
@winged quail You can control + left click to pick up the seeds
winged quail
thx
brisk elk
what to do with a full storage unit in the harvest area?
what do i use that full storage for
woeful halo
For feeding high tier seeds
covert apex
Hey guys, can you explain me what is wrong here and why I can't start the harvester?
violet nymph
the seeds aren't grown yet?
"requires 8 more fully grown wild seeds"
right there at the top @covert apex
violet nymph
yes the purple ones are wild seeds
they grow over time
time is measured by seed caches you open in areas
so just keep getting more seeds and those seeds will grow enough to harvest
covert apex
Thanks, understood now
jovial spindle
If i pick up a tank do i lose the stored lifeforce
jovial spindle
so whats the use of store life force, it doesnt use that for when i craft
violet nymph
anything above T1 seeds is gonna need juice from lower tier
you have to use a disperser and pylons and stuff
jovial spindle
ah okay, i was trying to do auto plant but its not auto planting when i have the disperser connected and active with tank, is it prob because i dont have enough stored lifeforce?
violet nymph
if you look at the individual seed it will tell you how much lifeforce is required pre growth cycle
then you can look at the connected harvesters and storage units and see how much lifeforce you have in them
proper turtle
why isnt the plant in top right growing
violet nymph
how much lifeforce is in that
proper turtle
in the purple collector? 34
violet nymph
sometimes it bugs and you gotta make another growth cycle happen
jovial spindle
is there an advantage to having overlaping disper
violet nymph
no idea
jovial spindle
oh shoot picking up the harvesters and tanks actually keeps the stored life force
violet nymph
like i said lol
jovial spindle
Oh, when i read nope thought you meant doesnt keep it
violet nymph
you asked if you lose the lifeforce
hexed vale
How to harvest crops from around a Disperser (Tier 2)? The dispenser doesn't have the harvest option. Do I need a collector with the overlapping area?
hexed vale
I love it. Just need to figure our a few more things.
copper kernel
swords kinda scuffed
violet nymph
yeah
i was hoping for additional target
cause honestly who is going to play dual strike if it's not good
axe/mace is the only good option
jovial spindle
do you guys have your higher tier seeds blinking read even if its going through the cycles and dispering the required lifeforce
jovial spindle
im guessing thats intended?
jovial spindle
like it goes away if i choose the manual disperse option and checks the mark for the seed
but if i leave it to auto disperse it works, but doesnt check the box
inland linden
do dispersers only water in the 4 adjacent directions? i have some plants in radius of a disperser for the correct type but they sitll say they need energy
the squirting animation also looks like it only goes in 4 directions, but... then why the hell do they have a radius
jovial spindle
when placing anything you can see the radius that the dispersers lifeforce
jovial spindle
mabye the "bug" i was saying above
inland linden
the things circled in red are wild energy storage, pylon for connection and dispenser. the plant still says it needs 27 but its right next to the dispenser
jovial spindle
you didnt click the manual disperse did you?
inland linden
i toggled all those buttons on and off various times to check if something changes
with the blue one an extra button pops up when I place a plant that needs blue energy
but that doesnt happen for the purple one
jovial spindle
the auto disperse seems do be "bugged" and doesnt show it working but it does as my cycle went up one even though it said it didnt have enough
but if you want to try, reload the instance by ctrl-click the grove from map
and then there should be a button to manual disperse
also you need to place that seed with more t1 seeds near by
inland linden
yup
inland linden
yes I know. but it's breaking
I just checked by doing another map after setting it up correctly
some of them randomly grew a round, some of them didnt
this is what it looks like now:
jovial spindle
do you have the other reqs met?
inland linden
yes
as you can se theyre still blinking because the thing isnt recognizing that its actually set up correctly
but one of them has grown 1 round
(the top right blinking one)
one in the bottom has grown as well
but the others havent
jovial spindle
they all have the 4 adj t1 seeds, if the disperser is actually reaching it and has enough energy then it should just be that if not idk
inland linden
pretty sure its bugged
jovial spindle
if you not manually dispersing the force i think that is a bug, but it should work i got mine to grow even with that not checked
auto dispersing doesnt seem to check it but works some reason
inland linden
is it possible that it has something to do with pylon lines crossing or something?
jovial spindle
my pylon line was crossing it
inland linden
yeah the wires not being powered randomly, I have that too
coral garden
i have not got any purple seeds for more than an hour already... bug?
viscid portal
rng
coral garden
how the fk is it possible to get only blues and yellows for more than 15 map straight
viscid portal
where there is random chance there are always outliers
versed dock
Why do I get into the wrong instance of the Sacred Grove constantly.. Is there a way to fix this?
sweet depot
Why can't i harvest that?
coral garden
harvest yellows with the yellow collector not the purp one
sweet depot
how do i change the collector?
sinful oxide
how do i get more storage?
after the first one that was given to me i cannot change the type
therefore i need to wait till i get enought to buy a new one using one type only
indigo mica
there will be crafting options for storages
woeful halo
You can craft more storage
indigo mica
and other structures
sinful oxide
i cant craft more storage without storage
indigo mica
sinful oxide
i cant hold enought
indigo mica
and you can condense some
woeful halo
You can't craft from s torage
sinful oxide
i cant craft from storage? then the only way to get the higher tier items would be to wait for the whole field to be harvested
woeful halo
That's the idea, 1 full field, most efficient
sinful oxide
i see, i guess i have to wait a few cycles to get the whole thing done
some seeds are gonna be insane later on then to get 1800 lifeforce in a single field
woeful halo
You'd need about 6 tier 3 seeds in a single collector
sinful oxide
thanks, i need to figure out storage first and then t2
whats the point of storage if i cant craft from it?
woeful halo
It's to feed the T2+ seeds
sinful oxide
oh
tidal lodge
how do u take lifeforce out of the storage thing
woeful halo
Link Storage to Disperser and it will juice up the higher tierseeds
tidal lodge
ahh ty
dusty remnant
can someone explain like a pepega for me how disperser and lifeforce and the actual underlying mechanic works
like i get you get seeds -> put seeds into matching area they take time to grow, you kill stuff and get some crafts
i apparently didnt know the crafts just go away after you lose the zone because i didnt see that anywhere
but what does the lifeforce/dispenser stuff do
when u reap ur seeds do u have to use that lifeforce right tehre or u lose it?
or is that what the dispensers are for
woeful halo
You Condense lifeforce into Storage, that links to Dispersers to feed Tier2 + seeds
dusty remnant
ok
so i either can craft, use the lifeforce to build the connector thingies or dispersers, or storage units, or take that lifeforce and put it into storage thingers
those are the options after seeds finish growing
?
jovial spindle
yes
dusty remnant
ok cool
woeful halo
More or less yeah, trick is connecting everythiing with the pylons,
jovial spindle
limited space
woeful halo
Can't mixcolours
tidal lodge
how do pilons get more lifeforce storage
jovial spindle
?
jovial spindle
you use the pylons to transfer the force to storage
they transfer by condensing to from harvester
harvester->pylons->storage tanks. Once you harvest the seeds when u use the condense option it will condense it till it fills the 50 the harvester holds of force after that it overfills to storage which holds 300
Does anyone know if i dont condense and leave does the crafting option stay?
woeful halo
Think you gotta use it then and there, once the instance closes it's gone
wet harbor
How is the dispenser supposed to be rigged up
rigid stream
Pylon to dispenser, Same Pylon to storage
Just Like the storage
Has to hit the t2+ seed, which needs a collector nearby
jovial spindle
Yep you lose the craft and you lose the life force
tribal thistle
anyone knows why my t2 seed is not growing? i met both requirements but i keep getting no progress on it :/
jagged surge
my crafting options dont disapear if i take a portal out of the grove
jovial spindle
new instance
jagged surge
i can go to my HO pickup stuff and go back to the grove
jovial spindle
yeah if you go to HO and then back you're prob going to same grove instance
jagged surge
y, tried it multiple times
jovial spindle
ctrl-click on the grove
jagged surge
i just opened a portal in the grove, went to town, went to HO the nback to town and take portal and into the grove
dont lose any crafting options
jovial spindle
ctrl-click the grove to create new instance
jagged surge
yeah but i dont want to x)
runic zephyr
why cant i harvest? it says i need 3 fully growns? but the 5 on the left are fully grown and within range?
woeful halo
3 more
runic zephyr
ooh, i see, thank
livid yarrow
i have storage tanks with all 3 different forces, but how to i use it to craft?
woeful halo
Can't craft from storage, storage is for feeding T2+ seeds
livid yarrow
so its storage -> dispenser-> t2 ?
wait, i can move lifeforce from the lifeforce collector to empty ones so i can keep crafting when i dont have seeds?
didnt work, there doesent seem to be a way to craft when ur growing the seeds
olive whale
Can anybody explain to me how to buy Storage tank?
woeful halo
Fill up a field of seeds ready to pop
crimson basin
the tier 2 seeds that ask for 7 primal energy or whatever
is it 7 per cycle
or 7 once
olive whale
Uhh, i don't get it
Isn't it require lifreeforce to buy?
So i can leave craft for later and then wait until there'll be enough ready-to-pop-seeds, so they'll count as a lifeforce?
woeful halo
Can't craft later, gotta do it after you kill the monsters. If you leave and collect more seeds you'll lose the crafting options
So most efficient way is to fill the field first, then kill all monsters, then craft
Make sure all seeds a re ready before you harvest
mossy coral
Is there a guide on how to setup the garden?
livid yarrow
not rly
i rly hate the layout of the sacred groove
nothing fits
cant nicely line anything up, too much stuff in the way
fast jetty
I mean, everything is perfectly ready to harvest, but i cannot click it needs 2 more wtf
violet nymph
woeful halo
Can't harvest the yollow ones there
violet nymph
how can you plant them tho?
indigo mica
you are planting vivid seeds under wild collector
sullen scroll
Will I need Desecrate to sustain Generals Cry for Lone Bosses?
haughty oracle
is auto plant enough ?
indigo mica
i think it just spams t1 seeds, nothing more
if you want to optimize your layout you'll need to do it manually
hasty perch
Autoplant is kinda bad
You want to plant only what you want to uqe for crafting unless you're after lifeforce
indigo mica
well, my approach so far is to plant t2's manually and then plant t1's with autoseed
hasty perch
Since you can't store crafts
junior skiff
ok im stuck in sacred grove, says "need at least 8 more fully grown wild seed in range to begin harvest" what do i do?
hasty perch
It would be a bit unefficient to burn all your lightning seeds when you don't need a lightning mod and have to farm them up when you do
Wait for 8 more wild seed to grow
They grow by 1 cycle per time you click the event in a new map
violet nymph
anyone know why this seed stopped growing half way? its under a disperser that is connected to a full Wild storage tank. I dont understand why its suddenly not getting the wild lifeforce it needs?
hasty perch
It seems bugged just wait one more cycle and you should be able to use the dispenser. I've noticed on my garden too sometimes dispensers just refuse to work for a turn especially on auto mode
violet nymph
hmm alright
slate tartan
sometimes just toggling auto on and off seems to help for me
lucid monolith
what max item level can i craft with this seed? 65 or higher?
rigid stream
65 or lower i think
odd cloud
Removing a storage will keep the condensed force inside or I have to use it before moving it?
prisma remnant
it will keep it
runic zephyr
this league is so confusing. i want to craft a storage tank because my collector is full but my collector cant even hold enough to craft one storage tank?
eager terrace
that’s just what the collector can store
runic zephyr
yea i know but how do i craft it when it cant store 75
i attached the storage i got from oshabi to my first collector but i cant craft with the storage container?
eager terrace
it doesn’t need to store 75 you just need a bigger harvest
runic zephyr
oh
eager terrace
yeah you can’t craft with stored resource
it’s only for plants once stored
you craft with the harvest total the store what’s left over
runic zephyr
oh that makes sense... i never planted all seeds at once so i always just got small harvests..
astral willow
how do I get the lifeforce out of my storage tanks
crystal apex
cobalt falcon
Harvesting tier 2 can drop tier 3
prisma wraith
Completely overwhelmed with this mechanic.. is there already a good layout with which you can plant and harvest t2 & t3 seeds? Honestly no idea how to layout for this..
And are storages only there for dispensers or can I use storages lifeforce also for crafts?
slate tartan
Storage exists only for fertiziling tier 2+ seeds
gleaming peak
Are we able to link multiple storages of the same type to make one “pool” of that lifeforce?
Or is that just completely unnecessary
celest atlas
any vid yet to explain it ... beside Grimro one he explains it from before league start
prisma wraith
Okay thank you.
So to growth let's say a vivid t2 seed I have to plant it inside a vivid harvester area aswell as in a dispenser area and feed the dispenser with the needed other lifeforce?
Oh and I am just dumb or is the "automatic dispense" feature bugged? Have to activate it after every round again
austere anvil
most of the streamers who make those vids are probably busy pushing HC ladder or farming currency in trade league or doing the boss rush event
woeful halo
Look at the tooltip carefully and it will tell you
balmy cloud
I think i fucked up. I condensed life force on my harvester without it being linked to a tank. So the bar itself is full. I can use the life force directly to dispense on T2 growing, but do you know if there is any way to just store the content of the harvester directly onto the tank?
woeful halo
Just make sure it's linked to a tank that isn't full,
Ant not a fuckup anyway, you'll get heaps of lifeforce
frigid jasper
How can i use the lifeforce stored in tanks?
copper kernel
you can only use it to water your t2+ seeds
forest saddle
Is this a bug? It says the item has no modiers of the specified type. But it has a lightning resistance mod that I should be able to change to Cold resistance. What am I missing or is it a bug?
frigid jasper
Oh i thought i can use it to buy some other tanks, pillons etc
high pike
Anyone 5Headed minimaxing layouts? I seen couple of docs but i want to see more ideas
rain oriole
guys assume i planted and harvested all seeds. i should use all crafting options or they ll disappear after next cycle?
frigid jasper
I kinda wanna know that too, how can i buy a new tank if i keep losing lifeforce?
copper kernel
what ilvl is the helmet
copper kernel
item level, not required
forest saddle
same
copper kernel
fair enough
woeful halo
no reason why it isn't working
If it was an Incursion hybrid mod I'd understand but
forest saddle
As I read it, it should just check for Lightning ress ✅ -> change to Cold res
oblique falcon
From where do you get Pylons/Disperser more collectors? Do they drop as well? Spend 30 min in the garden't couldn't find anything out
oblique falcon
How to make seed growth so i can harvest it for life force?
tulip kraken
am i missing something? shouldn't the stored life force go into the connected tank?
copper kernel
it will move if there is demand for it
rigid stream
The collector Acts as a Container as well
wind sundial
anyone got an optimal layout
I'm so lost
i just wanna play the game and have a garden :(
Do you need 3 different kinds of energy for t4 plants
rotund pine
guys did ggg change the supporter pack so it gives a pair of weapon skin instead of 1?
rough creek
how do u harvest the tier 2 seed?
shy dagger
has anyone used "Allows you to sacrifice a Weapon or Armour to create jewellery"
unkempt flicker
@frigid jasper you can buy a new tank when you harvest any seed higher than t1 - you will harvest more than the required lifeforce (because you will harvest all t1+t2 in the area).
@rough creek read the tooltip when you hover over the t2 seed - typically they must meet 2 conditions (being planted 'near' some type of other seed & requiring a type of life force using a disperser) over 8 growth cycles.
undone island
is there any explanation how this mechanic works?
unkempt flicker
@rough creek specificially to havest the t2 seed, after the 8 growth cycles hover over it and itll say "Ready to harvest" in green, so use a collector that it is in the area of and it will be harvested.
shy dagger
Well I used this and nothing happened item stayed the exact same
I'm not sure. reroll would assume some things would change
unkempt flicker
@shy dagger nvm lol I misread it
yeah same type shouldn't mean all mods stay the same, just drawn from the same type pool
shy dagger
I also used the t3 turn item into jewellery, put in weapon with phys damage to spells got amulet with 3-7 phys damage to attacks
I feel like the t1 plant rewards are better than the t3 rewards lol
final plume
Requires 8 more condensed WILD life force to grow
What does this mean? I have a full storage tank that is connected to this disperser
but it doesnt work
nimble socket
is there a preplanned map layout somewhere because i cant seem to find anything on reddit
aside of stuff that covers t1 and t2 only
oblique falcon
Is there a way to access the groove from my HO?
nimble socket
you can access grove from any waypoint
oblique falcon
Yea, hum 100% sure it wasn't there like 30 min ago, probably was related with the first quest
unkempt flicker
@final plume that means you need a disperser connected to your WILD tank that is in range of the seed you're reading the tooltip of
thin linden
Whats up with not being able to reforge some rare items? Says it has no valid mods
unkempt flicker
@final plume once that is in place you can click the icon above the disperser to "water it" with WILD lifeforce
@thin linden not all mods are available for all items or for the ilevel of your items
thin linden
Ohhhh that kinda makes sense
Like i cant reroll an attack mod on my boots or whatever
unkempt flicker
right, or you're only limited to certain tiers based on ilevel, etc - all the same crafting restrictions we're used to having
thin linden
Also, I know that we need a disperser to get different color lifeforce into t2 seeds
Where should I put that dispenser? Or the t2 seed whatever
unkempt flicker
The seed also needs to be positioned correctly relative to other seeds, so it needs to be in the correct base seed type area, surrounded by enough of the right type of seeds. It also needs to be within the disperser range, but disperser can be more or less anywhere via pylons
@thin linden does that make sense? lol
thin linden
Kinda
So my yellow t2 seed in a yellow garden, conected to a pylon feeding purple lifeforce
unkempt flicker
and surrounded by X yellow seeds
unkempt flicker
middle-ish yeah
grizzled swan
can anyone link the google sheet for t2 and t3 seeds optimized layout?
unkempt flicker
once those are satisfied the tooltip will have a green check next to each. You're very welcome!
@thin linden remember, though, those conditions need to be satisfied each growth cycle otherwise the seed will not progress towards harvest. I think the auto-disperse function is bugged because I have to click it every time to get my green checkmark
rain oriole
guys i planted and harvested full field. so if i don't use those crafts they will disappear or they ll be available ffor next harvest?
final plume
@unkempt flicker I think my garden is bugged somehow because I could only water the seeds once I took them back to my inventory and planted them again
thank you though
wraith mason
Why does it say it needs 8 more wild lifeforce? I have a fully charged wild lifeforce collector nearby, and the dispenser is dispensing it??
unkempt flicker
@final plume they can only be watered once per growth cycle
so typically it'll take 8 or so growth cycles, so you have to water it 8 times
chilly carbon
I've not gotten any storage tanks.. what am I doing wrong?
wanton rivet
oshabi gives u 1 for free
unkempt flicker
@wraith mason are you sure you have the required WILD lifeforce stored?
compact shore
what makes it so your plants grow? just doing maps?
wanton rivet
ur plants crow when u click a seed bag
wraith mason
Well @unkempt flicker, there is a wild lifeforce collector to the left, isnt there?
Purple = wild
chilly carbon
@wanton rivet Yes, I know.. I didn't get it tho
compact shore
so the seed bag in every map makes it grow when i collect more seeds
hexed galleon
ur plants crow when u click a seed bag
@wanton rivet we need scarecrown apperently
unkempt flicker
and is that a disperser? Sorry its hard to tell on mobile
wraith mason
Yeah, its connected to a disperser via a pylon on mobile
the purple stuff is flowing through the cables
steep edge
Any reasons why its not storing ? Its only for wild one 🤔
compact shore
the hand symbol reminds me of the meme hand
like the downward facing one you know what i mean lol
unkempt flicker
@wraith mason hmmm, were you able to click the disperser and have it actually show the disperse animations and sounds?
wraith mason
Yeah its squirting out purple stuff. It also worked for once growth cycle, but now it says it doesnt have the lifeforce
As you can see, it already grew a bit. And reqs didnt change so I am confused
iron violet
@steep edge you dont have any crafts selected or anything do you?
steep edge
It doesnt even gives me the option to craft , once I left that craft window only thing I can do plant seeds auto thats it
unkempt flicker
@wraith mason perhaps you should contact support at this point - have you tried leaving it for a growth cycle? Just curious
unkempt flicker
yeah, sorry about that
wet plaza
jns: happened to me too didnt find a fix
wet plaza
didnt grow for me
iron violet
prolly dont like germans
wet plaza
rude
ember violet
iron violet
it has also sometimes stopped autodispensing, so i had to click the manual dispense button
primal turtle
how do you build more stuff in the garden? i only have the one wild thing you get at the start
wet plaza
didnt have a manual button anymore after pessing it once
iron violet
that sucks, hopefully they get that bug fixed
chilly carbon
Super buggy league mechanics as usual
fading cedar
How do you harvest the tier2 seeds after collecting all the lifeforce?
languid path
the auto dispenser stop working is just visual, even if you seeds glow red you can move on to the next cache and the seeds still grow
fading cedar
I have a tier 2 seed like this, what shall I do next?
proud rapids
Ziggy's video says you can put the dispersers in the collector, but it won't work. was it wrong?
languid path
put a yellow collector
he probably meant dispersers inside the area of a collector, not actually overlapping on top
proud rapids
oh ok
fading cedar
oof
north dragon
dispensers are like spinklers
u overlap it with the harvest that needs that juice from other sources
languid path
juice for stupid beasts
frosty aurora
perfect league for league mechanics to frick off, by just clicking seed cache
siip
astral willow
can u store seeds from your HO
languid path
you can acquire a seed stash from the decoration window
pearl fossil
very nice ggg. You lose your crafting options if you crash.
bronze cave
Has anyone seen an exalt craft yet?
balmy hound
i havent tried the currency seeds yet
bronze cave
I understand they cant be too common, but i'm closing in on lvl 90 and the league mechanic didnt really.. do much yet
proud rapids
lvl 90? how
frosty aurora
how what
proud rapids
but in <1 day
frosty aurora
yes
copper kernel
thats like 20 hours of playtime
balmy hound
its been like 20 hours
copper kernel
assuming he hasnt slept
bronze cave
ye
stray iron
is it just me or is the harvest arena and the station placement rworded
bronze cave
Anyway i'm kinda underwhelmed. The good crafts seem really rare, and i dont really feel the reward of growing higher tier seeds. Most of those high tier crafts i either dont have a base they would be useful on since they're so high end seem just bad.
Like that one t3 craft where you can exchange currency for other currency. Theres the assumes super rare 10c->1ex, but the 12 other options you are actually getting are definitly not worth the time
Am i missing something? Would be happy if somebody changed my view
I've had more ex dropped naturally than from crafting options
balmy hound
i havent messed with t3 seeds yet, all ive seen is mostly alteration orb value crafts which is still worth it to me, i ran out of alts last league lol
i do like the idea of being able to replace non caster mods with caster mods but that wont help me until later
bronze cave
it feels like everything thats good is so high end oriented
balmy hound
to me thats basically a more targeted beast craft of remove X to add X it will definitely help you find that last mod in a crafted item
stray iron
yeah it feels like you won't use the league mechanic almost at all until you reach end game
except for socketing
languid path
there isn't any investment involved, I don't see how you could see it as a waste
if you get it nice
if you don't then plant new seed
balmy hound
time time is the big investment
bronze cave
its because i dont want to play pseudo standard
languid path
there's no time investment, just set up enough camp so you don't have to wait around for a certain type of seed to grow
ashen imp
If I have a collector with an open craft and I don't touch it, will it stay open so I can save a good craft for later?
runic zephyr
is it normal that i have almost only blue plants during acts? im in act 4 and i cant supply enough purple lifeforce because i almsot only drop blue ones
balmy hound
its not the "waiting" its the going into a second hideout to plant seeds, set it up correctly, plant your waste seeds to farm extra life sources, it all takes time, if that times doesnt correlate to an increase in income i could just be mapping and trading for what i want
stray iron
^
crimson gazelle
how do i "reset" my grove?
wanton rivet
control click everything ig
languid path
if you're spending that much them in your garden then it's because of bad planning
crimson gazelle
ty
runic zephyr
how do i plan better? what cna i do to sustain purple lifeforce when they dont drop often enough
balmy hound
if you hit auto plant seeds every time your in your graden and your not cherry picking your seeds and taking time to do it, your not getting what you want out of your garden, its a time investment
tame copper
But also this isn't stardew valley..planning out a garden isn't exactly the kind of gameplay I expect from poe
runic zephyr
is there some mechanic to get seeds from harvesting plants or sth?
bronze cave
It's like this:
Every league mechanic gives you a bit of currency every time you do it. In harvests case, you get like 4 free chaos orb like rerolls every time. But you can ONLY spend them on rolling, and that's resulting in total garbage 99.9% of the time. Other leagues would just give you the 4c and you can decide what to do with it
languid path
auto plant is hugely in efficient, it's just for early lvling
nobody should actually use it when they get to endgame and set up a correct garden
wanton rivet
i throw all the t2 seeds into the seed bank
balmy hound
@runic zephyr you have to just keep mapping and hope they drop
runic zephyr
yea thats the problem im in acts and i got like 10 t2 seeds waiting for lifeforce but no purple t1 to supply said lifeforce
i would have thought that purple is the "basic" tier and that they drop so commonly that youll use more than one field but it seems to be the opposite
balmy hound
exactly no one can use the automated feature so youre investing time to cherry pick, i promise you in a zoomer build i could complete a map before you leave your garden
runic zephyr
im dropping almost only blue
languid path
you don't go into your garden every map
balmy hound
theyll drop eventually keep going
runic zephyr
why not
languid path
I spend like maybe 5 minutes in a my garden every hour
you don't have to harvest just because seeds are fully grown
balmy hound
it takes 2.5 minutes to clear a map, your losing currency
narrow whale
im really not getting this shit, i connect a purple storage tank that has lifeforce in it to a purple disperser, and it just doesnt ever do anything even with auto disperse on, still have a t2 yellow seed sitting next to it saying it needs purple lifeforce
runic zephyr
yea auto dispensing was weird for me too sometimes...
are the drops from seed caches equally random? it really feels like blue drops more than purple...
balmy hound
not sure if they are equal or not, mine were the same way for quite some time then eventually evened it self out after a couple hours of mapping
balmy hound
freerun, stockpile seeds you dont want, plant a full plot seeds that will cultivate enough life force for you to craft one
karmic hare
But I don’t have it in craft
shadow flax
How can I move condensed lifeforce stored in the collector itself? I have collectors that are full but when I attach storage containers, the life force stays in the collector
flint tartan
What's considered "adjacent" for higher seeds?
balmy hound
cultivate more seeds the overflow will go to storage, the rest will stay in the collector, the other thing you can do is connect a collector to a dispensor you use the excess
frosty aurora
extra space would be nice
shadow flax
that's kinda silly. w.e, cheers mate
copper kernel
or just deposit them in the seed stash
karmic hare
I can bet my npc are bugged and I cant get my first tank from quest
runic zephyr
wym you cant get it
languid path
@flint tartan any of the 8 spots that make up a 3x3 square including the higher tier seed in the middle is adjacent
runic zephyr
thats kinda bad wording isnt it?
adjacent sounds to me like it has to be one cell neighbouring
languid path
top left right bottom, top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right
runic zephyr
oh, yea that makes sense
flint tartan
Thanks!