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midnight phoenix Apr 22, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Unique mobs dont add any appreciable amount of splinters over just having more mobs

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U can hit 100 with a bunch of juice on regular builds, the real barrier is how fast you can move while clearing

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If u just want 30 splinters per map u can get that with alch and go ramparts

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I think what most ppl do wrong is they try to kill everything

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Mobs drop more splinters the deeper into fog u go

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So the primary goal is to get far ahead

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And the secondary goal is to kill mobs once u are far ahead

unkempt dome Apr 22, 2020, 6:58 AM

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T15 Lair, same ChisAlcVaal 4 Awakened Sextants, Breach Scarab, Legion Scarab, Ambush Scarab. Sac Frag. Alva. Beyond Zana Mod.
@sharp veldt I just skip first half of the map and kill the rest still getting 30. no master mission no sextant no scarab. I think you're not fast enough

sharp veldt Apr 22, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Literally just Alc'd Ramparts?

unkempt dome Apr 22, 2020, 7:02 AM

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I remember killing everything(6 4 2 rewards) and getting 1-5 splinter. Just don't try to kill all the mobs beginning of the map.

sharp veldt Apr 22, 2020, 7:04 AM

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@midnight phoenix So Ramparts has a bottom layer, top layer then the Arena, right

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Can I just straight up skip the first half of the bottom layer and start from there?

midnight phoenix Apr 22, 2020, 7:23 AM

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if theres mobs directly in ur way, kill them

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but dont run sideways and pop bubbles in corners and shit like that

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this was a alch and go ramparts and i hit 1 cassia

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sharp veldt Apr 22, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Better I guess, I'm getting like, 11

spark ember Apr 22, 2020, 8:11 AM

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I have a Kosis in a T14 80% delirius map, 1 port left, temp chains mod. Anyone want to kill him for me. willing to pay

midnight phoenix Apr 22, 2020, 8:11 AM

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#trading or #1┃looking-for-group for boss carries

unkempt dome Apr 22, 2020, 11:44 AM

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T15 Lair (chisel alch vaal 2 fragment) + alva

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past badger Apr 22, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Great league mechanic, but to run back everytime for dem lewt is kanda annoying

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Also for encounters (alva, zana)

void thicket Apr 22, 2020, 1:53 PM

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so not a very great league mechanic

sharp veldt Apr 22, 2020, 6:40 PM

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iirc Alva doesn't pause the fog

ruby cargo Apr 22, 2020, 7:03 PM

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so I killed the blight bosses in the mist a few times but challenge wont complete. Am I missing something?

sharp veldt Apr 22, 2020, 8:33 PM

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40-splinter mark hit.

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I guess I gotta work on killing the bosses. The two in the Promenade are a little tanky even tho I can facetank them

untold bronze Apr 23, 2020, 2:15 AM

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does running multiple simulacrums always yield better returns than just selling it for 120-130c each?

twin rivet Apr 23, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Its really random

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You can get a simulacrum with all shit reward types

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Or you can get one that throws tons of fossils and scarabs at you

rough radish Apr 23, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Selling it will provide a constant income to you. Running it however can get you a random profit up to 2-3 mirror if you’re super lucky and rngesus decided to bless you with godly loot, or you get profit less than 120c vanity

untold bronze Apr 23, 2020, 3:15 AM

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damn that doesn't sound really appealing as an end-game mechanic

frosty aurora Apr 23, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Im convinced that alva spawn near mirror does reduce the splinter amount drop

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despite being very far away

midnight phoenix Apr 23, 2020, 11:09 AM

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It does

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Side zones connect to main zone through the portal in terms of fog depth

tender tusk Apr 23, 2020, 3:05 PM

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It's not physical distance

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It's walking distance

sharp veldt Apr 23, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@midnight phoenix Would it be a good tradeoff for Rampart map sustain if only ~~Valdo's Rest~~ Glennach Cairns* had 4 Watchstones?

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And only Rampart was triple favorited?

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I just got 39 Splinters from a run and started to think if Atlas bonuses/Awakening levels affect it

velvet palm Apr 23, 2020, 8:33 PM

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@rough radish profiting less than 120c is still profit. Profit is the bit after the 120c >:^(

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I'd say simulacrums are pretty consistent profit, just take a while

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of course, can be a loss too, but far more often a profit

sharp veldt Apr 23, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I find the big drops are an easier profit tho

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I think the least troublesome way is to farm the Splinters yourself since you don't have to invest 120C

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You're getting profits from whatever mapping strat you're doing plus the bonus from Delirium

velvet palm Apr 23, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I wouldn't buy a simu

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but I wouldn't sell one either

sharp veldt Apr 23, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I don't have that much faith in my RNG

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If I need fast cash I'll sell em

velvet palm Apr 23, 2020, 8:41 PM

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simu profit isn't reliant on big drops at all

sharp veldt Apr 23, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Yeah I just don't have a Frag Tab :D

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You would vomit at my quad tab full of what would've been in a Frag Tab if I wasn't too lazy to buy one :D

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I also don't know how to price any Div Card that isn't Nurse or Doctor

primal dagger Apr 23, 2020, 9:11 PM

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does anyone know what actually makes delirium mobs so tanky
like is it hp, res, or what
im trying to figure out what to even stack for map farming

silver kettle Apr 23, 2020, 9:24 PM

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@primal dagger damage reduction

primal dagger Apr 23, 2020, 9:24 PM

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so i should build pen then

ember hill Apr 23, 2020, 9:55 PM

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no

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pen doesn't help against damage reduction

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they either take reduced damage or less damage

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if it's the former you can get some "increased damage taken" sources

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if it's the latter there is nothing you can do to negate that

violet nymph Apr 23, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Does Kosis have specific strengths and weaknesses?

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Do I just want more damage, or something specific?

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Oh, just what you were talking about

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5 orbs is oof

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T16 5 orbs take so long and every mistake can kill me, I was not enjoying kiting adds and dodging their attacks for upwards of 10 seconds

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Killed Omni after a while, cleared map, except Kosis, took several minutes to get him down to 75%, I just gave up

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Also why I wasn't able to complete 20th of Simulacrum. (Both of them spawned)

spice cipher Apr 23, 2020, 11:35 PM

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dps

velvet palm Apr 23, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Get more than 3 damages per second

marble dawn Apr 24, 2020, 4:15 AM

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assuming ilvl doesnt matter whats the absolute fastest way to farm medium jewels

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i dont seem to get them that often just playing delirium in end game maps and would like to mess around with wc stacking

vast gazelle Apr 24, 2020, 4:16 AM

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wc stacking?

marble dawn Apr 24, 2020, 4:16 AM

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warcry

vast gazelle Apr 24, 2020, 4:17 AM

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ah

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your best bet is farming currency then buying em off trade

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or if ssf just speedfarm

marble dawn Apr 24, 2020, 4:19 AM

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ssf

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but the problem is

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i legit get one medium jewel in the same time it takes to set up sirus

vast gazelle Apr 24, 2020, 4:19 AM

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ah yeah

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they just have an annoyingly low droprate

marble dawn Apr 24, 2020, 4:19 AM

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is there a drop level requirement?

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maybe just turbo farming BA might work

vast gazelle Apr 24, 2020, 4:20 AM

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i dont recall one offhand and i dont see any googling

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hm

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poedb says droplevel is 1

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so i think youre good

ember hill Apr 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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@marble dawn farming maps will be the best way

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maps have extra iiq and packsize

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also can get lots of extra stuff from sextants, zana mod etc

native sonnet Apr 24, 2020, 4:58 AM

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still no harb portal ~~ why ....

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=/

wet plaza Apr 24, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Stargates cost too much for us plebians

frosty aurora Apr 24, 2020, 4:05 PM

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YEP

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frigid holly Apr 24, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Does cluster jewel drop rate vary with map tier or is it just a function of number of kills? (trying to farm iLvl 75 large with the right base, and unsure whether to stay in T8 to maximize the number of kills or use higher maps - pretty sure I'm fine up T13 or so, but I wont clear the entire map above T8). Of course I could just hit a higher tier map with a delerium orb, but I cannot sustain those indefinately, whereas I can sustain T8 indefinately...

copper pendant Apr 25, 2020, 7:32 AM

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have you guys been killing conquerors and guardians under delirium mirrors or orbs?

tender pawn Apr 25, 2020, 8:57 AM

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is splinters drop related to map tier or just to killed monsters + quant?

past badger Apr 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Equal distance/monsters killed will differ in t1 vs t16 im sure

tawdry shell Apr 25, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Anyone here get 20+ splinters a map consistently as melee? Trying to figure out what I’m doing wrong

frosty aurora Apr 25, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I'll try slapping +3 level watchers into fully juiced tropical to see if it can hit 100 splinters

frosty aurora Apr 25, 2020, 7:03 PM

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https://streamable.com/0kf4oy do rely on strongboxes to stop delirium fog

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oak gull Apr 25, 2020, 8:17 PM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1020571969327996392/7F2318CAF34CEB5ED3059326EF5C07EA083AD94B/

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best delirium mechanic

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kosis blinds you

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1020571969327996692/7850DEB5488ADCA06A3BB5C279C34C23111497A2/

frosty aurora Apr 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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yeah his bubbles are weird sometimes

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got this earlier

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oak gull Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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one spiky deathboi coming right up

true goblet Apr 27, 2020, 10:02 AM

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how do i kill sirius using an assassin cyclone nova coc? should i go CI or sthg

void thicket Apr 27, 2020, 10:10 AM

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don't think CI is gonna save you from the fight, just gotta learn the fight

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i was doing sirus with 6k ehp elusive and fortify(on leap-slam) last league

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not the most enjoyable fight but it boils down to learning the fight moreso than cheesing it out from what i saw

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the beams are the deadliest mechanic he has from what i felt like (aside from trying to jump from phase to phase) so as long as you keep moving constantly you should be fine in that regard

true goblet Apr 27, 2020, 11:13 AM

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oh i see, yeah it was my first encounter with him earlier on a5 after defeating the guardians, i ended up calling for help in global because i dont know the mechs and i just die too quickly

naive canopy Apr 27, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Sirus has (aside from knowing mechanics) two main gear checks - how you deal with corrupting blood (4 X lazors) and how much chaos res you got, if you cover booth corrupting blood coruption on jewel + at least atziri's flask - you might notice that the fight is MUCH more forgiving. On top of that regen recover is wonderfull, thats why herald builds do it ez pz, they just can go aside and regen in safety most of the time.

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Bonus points if you got freeze/shock/ignite immunity, as those save you from death beam "touch" while dodging

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taht or sick DPS so you don't even see any of the mechanics

midnight phoenix Apr 27, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Lasers dont do corrupting blood any more

barren crescent Apr 27, 2020, 2:20 PM

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they removed that?

naive canopy Apr 27, 2020, 2:48 PM

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huh? then what does corrupting? because that was my leading reason of rips untill I got the jewel...

frosty aurora Apr 27, 2020, 2:53 PM

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you still shouldnt wanna touch lasers even a bit

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its applies a nasty slow action debuff

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burn is not from the beam

tawny tundra Apr 27, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Can someone explain to me how the mist works with delirium? Some maps I full clear and get 4 sim splinters

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Other maps I clear 2/3 of it and its like 20 splinters before mist clears.

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Is there a tactic to how to clear a map with the Mist in order to maximize the simulacrum splinter return?

vast gazelle Apr 27, 2020, 4:28 PM

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yes, run long linear* layouts like promenade, lair, or tropical island

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you get way more splinters from killing enemies farther from the mirror in delirium

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so you want to speed through the first part and start killing more after a bit into it

frosty aurora Apr 27, 2020, 4:38 PM

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there is a visualization on reddit somewhere how it works

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but

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principle is that

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you ever get splints apart from boss in huge bad layout in ex.2

tender tusk Apr 27, 2020, 4:53 PM

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It also can vary greatly about where your juice spawns bc the same principle applies

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your alvas/abyss/whatever spawning later can make a decent impact

tawny tundra Apr 27, 2020, 5:45 PM

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is it better for sim splinters to just rush the boss

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clearing on the way or should you clear as much as you can and end early?

frosty aurora Apr 27, 2020, 6:22 PM

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its more about mobs death very far than boss

final wolf Apr 27, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I don't get it, i've lost my fog in breaches for the last 3 BCs

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I'm like 50+ in and never noticed this happening

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do the watchstone breaches not pause or something? I usually do it with scarabs

frosty aurora Apr 27, 2020, 11:06 PM

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i noticed too

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no idea though

strong mango Apr 27, 2020, 11:24 PM

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wait the lasers dont give corruption blood anymore

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why did i spend 4 ex on a jewel then

frosty aurora Apr 27, 2020, 11:24 PM

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for mapping

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4head

blissful onyx Apr 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Fuck corrupted blood

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Oh that post was 6 hours ago

left onyx Apr 28, 2020, 8:59 AM

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What's the deal with not getting delirium rewards when timer runs out while fighting elder guardians? -.-

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No point rushing to eradicator.. even beaming straight to end of map with mirror at start I didn't get him down b4 it ended due to all the phases and immunity shit.

midnight phoenix Apr 28, 2020, 9:48 AM

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U get delirium rewards

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But they drop in whatever zone ur in when they drop

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Elder guardians have 3 zones and u cant go back

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So u have to pay a bit of attention and not force a phase transition if theres a delirium timer ticking down

left onyx Apr 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Oof. Even so: dumb :(

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Plus the fact that you can have fog without visible border and then it moves, timer kicks in and u pop rewards - all meanwhile he phases p much :(

spice cipher Apr 28, 2020, 2:55 PM

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yeah some stuff like that was not designed to be in fog or do well in fog unless you can insta phase

gaunt badger Apr 28, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I don't get this...
I melt t16 guardians, t8 conquerors in a few seconds
and I reached t16 simulacrum with impale cyclone and I can't kill a single mob

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nevermind, it's called being dumb
I run One with Nothing and one of the drops was a pair of Gloves 🤦‍♂️ 🤦 🤦‍♀️

vast gazelle Apr 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Lul

gaunt badger Apr 28, 2020, 6:47 PM

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in my defense, the same thing happened to me with my hoag character, though that might've been a bad mod related to poison chance
so I was traumatized, lmao

copper kernel Apr 28, 2020, 7:30 PM

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theres a setting to disable auto equip afaik

velvet palm Apr 28, 2020, 7:31 PM

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there is

full heart Apr 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

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home stretch bois

sudden iron Apr 29, 2020, 3:35 PM

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🤡

frigid holly Apr 30, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Any way to maximize Cassia oils in Delerium [league], or is it basically just randomly run maps and accept that she pops up in about 10% of them? (SSF so no ability to purchase anything). I guess metamorph scarabs can help a little (WTB Cassia scarabs)

midnight phoenix Apr 30, 2020, 1:36 PM

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Once u get 140 atlas completion u can pay 8c zana mod for it

frigid holly Apr 30, 2020, 1:43 PM

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ah right. At about 120 atm, so something to work on. Thanks

midnight phoenix Apr 30, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Simulacrum also drops many blight maps that u can farm for oils

frosty aurora Apr 30, 2020, 3:55 PM

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or blight delirium orbs

sand raft May 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Quick question. Do you guys think this is better to use 5 deliriums orb of the same type or is it better to just have 5 differents ?

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Farming Doctor right now

cunning blade May 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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depends on what reward u want

cursive widget May 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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honestly it best to do 80% delirius maps

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100% is like twice as hard and not worth the reward tbh

frigid holly May 1, 2020, 8:00 PM

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is it worth corruptiong Megalomaniac medium cluster jewels (that are not usable for you [SSF])?

brave pulsar May 1, 2020, 8:11 PM

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they come pre-corrupted

kind lily May 1, 2020, 10:15 PM

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just used my first orb with prophecy loot and it didn't dropped even 1 prophecy

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i see this on the bottom left though

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what can it be?

spice cipher May 1, 2020, 10:21 PM

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sometimes its just coins

kind lily May 1, 2020, 10:33 PM

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thanks

torpid sonnet May 1, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Also if you are using recent neversink it will filter out garbage prophecies

tender pawn May 2, 2020, 11:03 AM

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~~is medium with 3 nodes (no passive point) possible?~~ nevermind, nodes are prefixes only on medium

wise quest May 3, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Is doing Burials with scarabs + watchstones etc Alone worth it ? I did a 12run as a duo and it was good (It was like 500 chaos investment ) , toughts on doing it alone ?

frosty basin May 3, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Are Simulacrum monsters spawned around the player's current position, or are they independent of it?
Does Simulacrum spawn more monsters if I am near the middle of the map than if I'm on the edge?

sly vector May 3, 2020, 12:14 PM

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i really hope we dont get cluster as a core mechanic

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and if we do it need to be limited as 1

frosty basin May 3, 2020, 12:21 PM

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it would be hard not to, I think the whole point of this league was to introduce cluster, also cluster jewels are already available to Standard

fathom shard May 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Does %chance to intimidate stack?

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And would there be a big difference between 10% and 20%

frosty aurora May 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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whatthe

sour fox May 4, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Yes and 100% more

woeful bridge May 4, 2020, 8:06 AM

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is it worth it to alch 80/100% deilirious maps?

worthy turtle May 4, 2020, 9:05 AM

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if u can handle it, then of course.

past badger May 4, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Those are.......rippy

forest glacier May 4, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Just dont get hit

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And if you see a boss on the minimap, clear mobs and run aeay

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Away

velvet palm May 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Just annihilate everything in your path

violet nymph May 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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i've killed both Kosis and Omniphobia yesterday on 100% delirium maps CrusaderExalt

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it is certainly possible

velvet palm May 4, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Is that an accomplishment? templarLul

violet nymph May 4, 2020, 12:57 PM

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for me, yes

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i've haven't killed sirus this league yet btw, 4 tries failed templarLul

storm crown May 4, 2020, 1:35 PM

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you want kosis with extra crit% and crit multiplier, extra damage as elemental damage 👌

keen salmon May 4, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Hey. So people toying with cluster jewels, I have a question - specifically about the fire DoT medium jewel and the 'wrapped in flame' notable. Its +20% burning damage, +15 Fire Dot Multi while burning, and recover 1.5% of life while burning. The Righteous Fire self degen does count as burning right? And on a related note, anyone know how to make PoB recognize if you are infact burning? It can do chilled/froze/shocked but not burning for some reason

autumn snow May 4, 2020, 8:00 PM

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@keen salmon yes

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I am pretty sure pob has a burning option if you have anything that does something while you are burning

keen salmon May 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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They might not have updated it to include that specific notable.

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I might need to clean reinstall too, seeing as it doesn't show me anoint oils either despite being fully updated

golden moon May 4, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Question on this cluster notable:
Feed the Fury
Notable
0.4% of Attack Damage Leeched as Life
30% increased Damage while Leeching
15% increased Attack Speed while Leeching

If I'm using Blood Rage, and don't have more life regen than the degen it has, I should basically always be leeching, right?

urban mason May 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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can you modify simulacrums at all or do you just pop it in and go?

violet quartz May 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Pop and go

urban mason May 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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cool thanks 🙂

urban mason May 5, 2020, 12:31 AM

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how much on average should you expect from Simuls?

storm crown May 5, 2020, 12:38 AM

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must say i like delium orb maps way more than the normal delirium

violet quartz May 5, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I think Empyrean ran a bunch and arrived at an average of 3 ex per simulacrum

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Still not a big enough sample size and I haven't seen the drops but it would seem it's worth to run them if you can complete most/all waves

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A lot of people are farming splinters and that's definitely dragging the price down a fair amount

midnight phoenix May 5, 2020, 12:51 AM

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it also depends on ur clearspeed

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completing waves with 4 rewards is not the same thing as completing waves with 6 rewards

urban mason May 5, 2020, 12:57 AM

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wait, clearing them faster increases the rewards? i thought it spawned x monsters, i didnt realize it was time based

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time to actually focus up and try to clear fast lol

final wolf May 5, 2020, 12:58 AM

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there is a monster limit on the map

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more won't spawn if there are too many alive

urban mason May 5, 2020, 12:59 AM

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hm okay, im kinda sitting at mid 5 rewards rn

final wolf May 5, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I think if you can hit at least 5 every round

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you're good to go

rocky nebula May 5, 2020, 9:31 AM

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@golden moon I think unless you have specific items/skills that specify that leech effects aren't removed at full life, life leech stops at full life. I could be wrong though.

old oar May 5, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Hey guys, is there any unique rewards for completing the Epilogue/completing the game?
I'm rolling a melee class, but I want to reroll into ranged. But not at the cost at missing out on some league specific reward or something!

past badger May 5, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Your efforts for finishing the story will be an awesome 2 skills points

old oar May 5, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I mean after the story (after killing Kitava), when you complete the Atlas and kill all those bosses.

final wolf May 5, 2020, 4:52 PM

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your atlas progression is league shared

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so when you're new char gets there it will be right where it left off

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but you don't get any special quest rewards for completing it

midnight cargo May 5, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I though you couldn't even do maps without killing kitava

urban mason May 5, 2020, 6:24 PM

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so wave 20 is 100% delirious and that isnt too bad in difficulty. Is that comparable to maps with 5 orbs or are maps harder

left onyx May 5, 2020, 7:19 PM

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It's prolly around the difficulty of a t9-10 100% deli or something.

urban mason May 5, 2020, 7:21 PM

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hm aiight so BC 100% is prolly significantly stronger

charred heron May 5, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Hello people
I has a dumb question : Do the passive grantes by small/medium/large cluster jewels ?
For instance : Can I stack two medimun cluster jewel that grant the passive : "Pure agony" ? (Add 1 max number of sentinel of purity / +5 max Virulence / Minions deals 20% increased damage while affected by a herald)

silver kettle May 5, 2020, 9:33 PM

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they stack if you get multiple of the same passive, yes

charred heron May 5, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Thanks you kind stranger

silver kettle May 6, 2020, 9:26 PM

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<@&174997701513969665> (was ad spam, for anyone wondering)

past badger May 7, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Not wondering templar1

random rivet May 7, 2020, 3:38 PM

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quick question, does the delirium fog pause during harbinger encounter? if so how long

final wolf May 7, 2020, 4:12 PM

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I'm pretty sure it doesn't

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i run harb on my BC's and I don't notice anything

torpid sonnet May 7, 2020, 4:17 PM

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iirc in one of their posts GGG said the mist will pause for a bit once you finish the harb

mighty spindle May 7, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Why is it that when I reach 4/2 rewards on delirium The countdown starts immediately, I can’t reach third rewards

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And when I try to kill the delirium monsters close to me they fade and disappear even while it’s still counting down

final wolf May 7, 2020, 6:10 PM

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the countdown and the reward levels arent directly related

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you just have to kill stuff faster

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or run a map/level with more density

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once you start seeing the countdown you need to run farther ahead

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some maps have a better layout than others too, if the map loops back on itself you are going backwards (getting closer to the start mirror)

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Tropical Island, lair, promenade are examples of good maps where you naturally move away from where you started

velvet palm May 7, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Countdown starts when you're out of the fog

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Fog moves outwards from the portal

hollow hazel May 9, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Oh you can drop ex from delirum runs... Next is for mirror drop from delirum

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vast bay May 9, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Ah great ! There is a cluster notable that stacks with golems same as PH with heralds. You have been warned.

frosty aurora May 9, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Eh?

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every notable stacks though

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clarify

hollow hazel May 9, 2020, 6:50 AM

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4 Chisels + Alch + 3 vaal frags + bloodlines + Sextants for Monster pack. Kind of satisfied even though its not 200+ per run like some streamers... Conclusion : Don't be afraid to spend currency in your maps, ie. Chisels, Alch, chaos, Frags, Sextants..... the rich get richer while the poor gets poorer..

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restive ridge May 9, 2020, 7:17 AM

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So, i started this league late... (3 days ago) is it worth running simulacrum myself for loot or just sell it outright?

gilded dust May 9, 2020, 7:28 AM

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@restive ridge it's super profitable either way, if you can't comfortably complete 20 waves, i'd sell it

restive ridge May 9, 2020, 7:28 AM

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never tried it yet so idk how strong the waves are. but i mean i'm still clearing t8 maps so i guess i should sell it for now

gilded dust May 9, 2020, 7:29 AM

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wave 20 is akin to clearing a t16 100% delirious map

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wave 1 starts at t8 0% delirious iirc

restive ridge May 9, 2020, 7:30 AM

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yeah i should definitely sell it for now then ahahaha

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ty

gilded dust May 9, 2020, 7:31 AM

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nws

velvet palm May 9, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Wave 20 is easier than a decent 100% t14 marauder

vast bay May 9, 2020, 2:17 PM

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@frosty aurora will try my best to clarify without looking into it.. I kinda dont like notable stacking..
So there is a notable from the clusters that gives 10% inc damage to you PER golem you have summoned.. And you can have 9 golems up in one time if you playing a golementalist and whatever items give 'summons additional golem'
So yeah.. 90% inc damage per notable.. Its not PH comparable , but its up there.. Also CaptainLancer something has a video about it

sour mountain May 10, 2020, 1:58 PM

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90% is kinda underwhelming tbh

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And it's also dependent on your elementals being alive which can be a tall order sometimes

mortal yarrow May 10, 2020, 3:30 PM

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@sour mountain he didnt clarify, they also gain 25% inc max hp these golems and you stack them so they become quite tanky, its closer to 400% inc damage in total or something if I recall correct

runic snow May 11, 2020, 4:29 AM

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wave 20 is about 10 packs in a t16 100% delirious which is only like 1/5th of one

potent basin May 11, 2020, 4:54 AM

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If you had to pick either can't be maimed or can't be hindered, which do you pick?

violet nymph May 11, 2020, 5:18 AM

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definitely maim

undone plank May 11, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Does anyone know what delirium orbs add to the map?

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I mean except the obvious...

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Does it add quant ?

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Or pack size/ packs? Or packs per orb? Is the added packs or quant linear? Or does it add up exponentially making going from 80-100 better than 60-80.

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In short, does adding delirium orbs to a map up to 100% increase the doctor card drop rate?

mortal yarrow May 11, 2020, 8:36 AM

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not as far as i know

undone plank May 11, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Wellp, that’s sad

final plume May 11, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Did GGG say why they don't make loot drop only at the end of a timed delirium?

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backtracking is kinda meh

copper kernel May 11, 2020, 2:42 PM

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because they cant

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too laggy/can crash instances

gilded dust May 11, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Yeah

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I can already crash my game by pressing alt

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Without loot vaccuum

bright peak May 11, 2020, 3:32 PM

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does phase run work with second wind

compact junco May 11, 2020, 3:33 PM

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yes

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for the cd recovery part, but not for extra charge as its instant

bright peak May 11, 2020, 3:46 PM

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do ppl usually use both?

spice cipher May 11, 2020, 3:48 PM

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prob not unless they have a 3-4 link with it like dash or something

bright peak May 11, 2020, 3:50 PM

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yeah im planning a 4l for it tbh

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another qn. ic cant stack with molten shell right

compact junco May 11, 2020, 3:51 PM

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second wind + inc duration + phase run is perma phase run without any other investment, i used that in build this league, its pretty nice

bright peak May 11, 2020, 3:51 PM

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great 😄

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ic no longer stops bleeding from blood rage right

compact junco May 11, 2020, 3:56 PM

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yep, rip phys immunity (and rip arakaali)

bright peak May 11, 2020, 3:57 PM

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😦

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ty

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that's so sad so much has changed since bestiary

barren crescent May 11, 2020, 9:20 PM

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that was nearly 2 years ago

mighty gull May 11, 2020, 9:23 PM

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There is so much changes even since Legion. So i decide to skip one more league because i don't have 2 weeks of no life in next month. 😦

final plume May 11, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Do Spites deal chaos damage?

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Or why do they hit so damn hard

dusty umbra May 11, 2020, 9:50 PM

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@undone plank most of my doctors were from 80% delirius maps

raven bronze May 12, 2020, 2:11 AM

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i love path of exile but delirium broke my computer...i've had to sit out this league..sucks

ember hill May 12, 2020, 2:58 AM

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what

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how does a game break your computer? @raven bronze

violet nymph May 12, 2020, 4:21 AM

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i think they mean delirium is very non-functional

past badger May 12, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Works fine for me

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Though, can notice some fps lags here and there

jagged surge May 12, 2020, 12:48 PM

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for the first time in 7years, PoE is garbage on performances on my computer

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when starting PoE this league, mon 1080TI is doing aircraft noises

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just in the menus. freezes in map are worse

barren crescent May 12, 2020, 12:59 PM

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sounds like an issue, instead of graphic card running out of juice

patent canyon May 12, 2020, 12:59 PM

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game on ssd or hdd?

worthy turtle May 12, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I'd hope that someone with a 1080ti would have it on an SSD ^.^

patent canyon May 12, 2020, 4:03 PM

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well he ofc might have windows on it but didnt install poe on it thinking its pointless bc his 1080ti is gonna make up for it

marsh wyvern May 12, 2020, 5:02 PM

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@jagged surge set the fps cap in this screen https://i.imgur.com/uB0PodG.jpg

Imgur

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or on your nvida control panel https://i.imgur.com/Tim6Go8.png

Imgur

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else you get several thousands FPS in menus and loading screens

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freezes in maps are most likely a network issue if you are playing lockstep mode. try a different realm or play predictive mode (not recommended)

radiant lance May 12, 2020, 8:41 PM

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i force capped my fps because i was sitting at 300 fps in gameplay ;p

brisk linden May 13, 2020, 7:34 AM

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hi guys

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does anyone know why these fine delirium orbs are profitable

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i tried them out and i only got 1 exalt out of 10 or so 100% fine delirium t16 shaper maps

frosty aurora May 13, 2020, 8:27 AM

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rng

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they were mad cheap at first month

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due to a lot of sellers

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now its mostly demand

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that being said you would probably profit from them if you clock like 12 to 14 rewards but that's annoying to do and you'd probably investing more in juice than fine orb

brisk linden May 13, 2020, 8:31 AM

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ohh okay

frosty aurora May 13, 2020, 8:37 AM

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so you have like 14c fine orbs at the time when exalts were 145c

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for 4 days

brave pulsar May 15, 2020, 12:03 AM

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people usually start stockpiling for standard

past badger May 15, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Odd, i tend to blow all my moneys at this stage of league

shy pivot May 15, 2020, 6:34 AM

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does regular map spawn more monsters or does applying a delirium orb increases it more or is it the same ?

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in my experience it seems the regular delirium spawns more but im only using 1 orb on the other maps

final wolf May 15, 2020, 8:45 AM

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One orb would be less delirium in total. With the regular mirror if you are killing mobs all the way to the end of the map you are probably building up close to 100% delirium

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With only 1 orb you are pegged at 20% the whole map

humble horizon May 15, 2020, 3:57 PM

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do more simulacrum splinters drop if I kill the map boss while still under delirium influence?

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or is it just very random

violet nymph May 15, 2020, 4:39 PM

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More splinters drop from bosses, but overall more enemies killed = more splinter drops

humble horizon May 15, 2020, 4:53 PM

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ok thanks

hasty perch May 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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why would anyone stockpile for standard

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exaltThink

violet nymph May 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I stockpile crafting materials and potentially nerfed bases to make mirror items on std

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not for profit, just fun to make dope items

hasty perch May 16, 2020, 5:44 PM

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i never play standard

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GGG must know this because the 3 HH i vaaled in standard after the league bricked

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i mainly use it to test things without paying the cost in temp league

ember hill May 16, 2020, 9:39 PM

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like what happens if you vaal a headhunter? marauderthinking

hasty perch May 17, 2020, 12:06 AM

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it changes color

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yellow headhunter best headhunter exaltThink

vast gazelle May 17, 2020, 12:43 AM

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but bluehunter

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or spacehunter

rocky nebula May 17, 2020, 6:27 AM

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TIL the mirror does not spawn any mobs if the area is completely cleared already

barren crescent May 17, 2020, 7:27 AM

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8head

humble horizon May 20, 2020, 6:41 AM

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if I'm rushing through a delirium map and stop at Alva to pick which temple room to do, does the delirium timer keep going?

marsh wyvern May 20, 2020, 6:41 AM

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its supposed to pause it while you are in the temple. but the entire pause mechanic is more than a little bit iffy

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most of the time it fails to pause but ive only had it happen while in a temple once that i remember

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pretty sure it keeps going while talking to alva tho,

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so get in the portal asap

humble horizon May 20, 2020, 6:44 AM

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ah yeah that's the thing I was worried about, because I don't know the temple rooms so gotta check the web page to see which ones I should prioritize

distant lava May 20, 2020, 2:22 PM

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@humble horizon default keybind is "v" for viewing league mechanic in a league specific zone. So rush to open temple, enter incursion and DONT MOVE. Press V to view area. As long as you don't move you have a 10 sec period of invuln: Monsters won't attack you in temple, delirium is paused, and you can pick which architect to kill in peace.

humble horizon May 20, 2020, 4:37 PM

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that's very good to know, thanks @distant lava

distant lava May 20, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Also works in temple, which is really nice

normal sigil May 21, 2020, 9:28 AM

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does fog pause on syndicate encounter or when syndicates die and you can pick the choice?

midnight phoenix May 21, 2020, 11:52 AM

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it pauses temporarily when u finish a encounter

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10 seconds

charred summit May 23, 2020, 5:17 AM

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everything pauses

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dont follow abbyss thats all

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abyss gonna waste ur time and ur delirium gonna catch up fast

violet nymph May 23, 2020, 5:27 AM

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abysses are great if they go in the direction you're supposed to go in

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free density and free delirium time

grave wadi May 23, 2020, 3:20 PM

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How does the stack count work? Is it kill whatever is in the way the fog is moving?

stark hull May 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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yes and no

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just kill monsters while delirium is active will count toward the rewards

unkempt dome May 24, 2020, 8:18 AM

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does fog pause on syndicate encounter or when syndicates die and you can pick the choice?
@normal sigil yesterday i killed syndicate members and skipped them without talking, i waited 10+ seconds for delirium to start moving lol. I ended up going back and talk to them

mighty birch May 24, 2020, 6:38 PM

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does any of you experience freez and lag when on a map coz its unplayable for me but any other game works perfectly

distant lava May 25, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Caution when delirium ends near fortification encounter 😦

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humble horizon May 25, 2020, 6:21 AM

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if I applied a delirium orb to a map to make it 20% delirious, does that mean there's no more timer and I can take as long as I want to kill things? or is there still more loot if I rush?

hollow prism May 25, 2020, 6:33 AM

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@humble horizon No timer, you can take your time

humble horizon May 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

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and the splinter count depends on the number of mobs killed?

marsh wyvern May 25, 2020, 11:16 AM

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@humble horizon it seems to be related to how deep in the fog you get and killing the map boss. say tropical island, clear it all and kill the boss will net you a lot of shards. but some where the boss isnt far from the spawn physically hardly drop anything, like city square for example.

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but the map boss is important for shards

rocky nebula May 25, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Lair is a great layout for shard farming

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and Lookout as well

lilac perch May 25, 2020, 4:32 PM

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tropical island is the best I've found thus far

rigid idol May 25, 2020, 7:14 PM

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so i did elder map

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delirium timer gone out and i got teleported because boss get to 2nd phase

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rip my delirium loot

humble horizon May 25, 2020, 7:48 PM

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that happened to me as well, Yan

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thanks @marsh wyvern , if I understand correctly, that applies more to regular timed delirium mirror effect, less so to the delirium orbed maps where the boss is going to get killed in the fog anyway

marsh wyvern May 25, 2020, 7:51 PM

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right

cunning blade May 26, 2020, 2:57 AM

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vanity delirium orb, bait all the enemies towards the furthest part of the map then kill them there for max splinter drops?

safe cedar May 26, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Don't bait them, reverse knockback them. Massive deathball.

solemn cosmos May 26, 2020, 8:01 AM

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oh

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🤔

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I feel like I read it but it didn't click at the time

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do you get more shards the further away you are from the "fog dispersal" circle?

sour fox May 26, 2020, 6:36 PM

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The fog has a beginning and end. You can be behind it as it moves, inside of it, or in front of it. The closer you are to the front of it while still inside of it is the best place for splinter drops.

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-->#bad#########good#-->
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velvet palm May 26, 2020, 7:11 PM

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it's not about the front, it's about the distance from the start

sour fox May 26, 2020, 8:08 PM

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doesn't front have the most distance?

velvet palm May 27, 2020, 10:35 AM

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90% of the time you can't be in the front

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So by your brilliant idea, 90% of the time people should be getting 0 shards

violet nymph May 27, 2020, 1:34 PM

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^ why are you being defensive? he literally didn't say that

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he said at the front you get the most splinters, which is true, because it's the farthest point at all times from the mirror that the fog is active

velvet palm May 27, 2020, 2:13 PM

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except it's not true, but sure

ebon wolf May 27, 2020, 3:30 PM

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connection issues

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ping not loading

royal gale May 27, 2020, 4:06 PM

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not the proper channel @ebon wolf

ebon wolf May 27, 2020, 4:17 PM

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sorry

frosty aurora May 28, 2020, 4:30 AM

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So I used a delirium orb and it said: "Sup Jeff how is it going?"

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So I used a delirium orb and it said: "I hope this format doesn't bother you."

humble horizon May 28, 2020, 6:06 AM

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in a Simulacrum map, does it matter how quickly I do each of the 20 waves? should I dash like mad to try to maximize returns?

jagged wyvern May 28, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Try to get atleast 5 rewards on the waves

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The faster u clear it the higher reward tiers u can get

humble horizon May 28, 2020, 6:39 AM

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I really don't like how rushed this league is

merry marsh May 28, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Go to fast you'll outrun the fog :^)

kindred dagger May 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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mmmh is there a bug or something in delirium map ? first time i use a delirium orb on a map (yeah it was about time !) and now im in charging the rewards but they dont drop, is there a way to end the delirium like in regular map ?

tawny pasture May 28, 2020, 6:30 PM

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they already dropped

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everytime you have filled them you dropped

kindred dagger May 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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ooooooh i see, thanks

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thats is not too satisfying thou... 😦

tawny pasture May 28, 2020, 6:31 PM

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you only used 1 orb

kindred dagger May 28, 2020, 6:33 PM

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yeah but still the way it rewards you doesnt feel much satisfying, it lack of something that "finish" the map for an all drop

hushed sequoia May 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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it is kind of weird, feel like delirium map boss should drop more loot

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but they saved all the loot for simu i guess

marsh wyvern May 29, 2020, 1:21 AM

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yeah that irks me. the bosses hardly drop anything

mighty gull May 29, 2020, 12:20 PM

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they drop guardian maps very often

marsh wyvern May 29, 2020, 12:20 PM

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ive never seen it. just a few shards, like 1 - 3 or a cluster jewel sometimes

distant axle May 30, 2020, 1:01 PM

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delirium map boss is the only source of unique cluster jewels apart from voices

brave pulsar Jun 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Our April expansion contains the Ultimatum challenge league, eight new Skill and Support Gems, improvements to Vaal Skills, an overhaul to past league reward systems, dozens of new items, and much more. We've also just released a new trailer and gameplay showcase for Path of Exile 2.
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brave pulsar Jun 2, 2020, 9:01 PM

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brave pulsar ```In Path of Exile: Ultimatum, you must undertake the trials of Chaos and choos...

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:02 PM

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omg poe farming

hoary snow Jun 2, 2020, 9:02 PM

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LITERAL FARMING SIMULATOR

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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poe harvest moon

lyric gorge Jun 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Path of Exile: Farmville?

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:03 PM

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how long does it take seeds to grow wtf

hoary snow Jun 2, 2020, 9:04 PM

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new slams and warcries though

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that's neat

slender monolith Jun 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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📎 Shutupandtakemyseeds_4dada298aa3da809c5c8f474870fe2c4.png

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Seeds I can handle. But at what risk?

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What are the stakes?

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:05 PM

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'growth cycles'

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lvl 92 mobs? o_o

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F A C T O R I O he said the magic words

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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lol @ moving spell totem

shy belfry Jun 2, 2020, 9:11 PM

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A winter orb like mechanic but it acts like a spell totem. A spell sentry.

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Which skills do you think will get the "Love" this new league?

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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3 new brands!

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:14 PM

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uhhhh

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So, wait, is this

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UBER UBER LAB??

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:14 PM

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arcanist brand spellslinger coc

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:15 PM

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T16 Beachhead looks insane though

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:15 PM

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eternal lab of fortune is probably a harder lab for better enchant chances?

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:15 PM

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The normal one has 6 extra harbingers and that's it

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The T16 one has 20 extra harbies and additional unique pieces lol

storm crown Jun 2, 2020, 9:16 PM

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interesting

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Anyway, there are some pretty interesting and strong crafting options

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I like this

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I really, really like this

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:16 PM

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f a c t o r i o

native osprey Jun 2, 2020, 9:16 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/thong-farming-gif-13240434

Tenor

storm crown Jun 2, 2020, 9:19 PM

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the cries looks interesting

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Rallying cry sounds like it could make dom blow and purity minions work with no minion damage investment marauderthinking

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:22 PM

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so fucking excited

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another slow, relaxed league mechanic

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They increased supporter pack prices guys!!!

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that + old unique reworks are exactly what i wanted

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Agnostic is on the base tree now 👀

broken urchin Jun 2, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@violet nymph wdym. They're the same price they've always been 🤔

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:25 PM

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always been 50 for me lol

broken urchin Jun 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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you might have had a discount and it ran out

bold basalt Jun 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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league mechanic seems like bestiaryXsynthesis

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I hate it

broken urchin Jun 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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from previously buying something

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Now I need to get into crafting

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AAAAAA

olive phoenix Jun 2, 2020, 9:27 PM

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God, I went on reddit and a bunch of people are bitching about new league. Why do I even go into that Waste Pool.

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:27 PM

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If I plant a headhunter do I grow a headhunter tree? 😄

bold basalt Jun 2, 2020, 9:27 PM

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and how they again made league mechanic you have to pick up and carry in inventory

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Yeah but it is less loot atleast

tidal frost Jun 2, 2020, 9:28 PM

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they all drop in 1 spot; so its not nearly as bad as like; organ hunting

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Man arcanist brand seems legit

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More quality loot

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ima go arc

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lmao

bold basalt Jun 2, 2020, 9:28 PM

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we'll see

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:28 PM

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have u seen that 80% duration flask

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super op crafts

shut wagon Jun 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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isnt there a "mega hain" ? Like in all other leagues for example blight: blight maps. Legion: this legion encounter. Delirium: this map you can enter with 100 splinter

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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and they stack 100

compact junco Jun 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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soulthirst buff ez

north dragon Jun 2, 2020, 9:33 PM

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80% duration once goes down 1% everytime u use it once

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 9:33 PM

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BV brands anyone?

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:36 PM

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45 new crafting methods

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dafuuuq

pure crypt Jun 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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so, Einhar gets a wife templarLul

torpid sonnet Jun 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Agnostic on the main tree, thats pretty cool

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violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@echo shale wait that sounds great wtf

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BV brands

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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ikr

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who needs duration

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I hope that works the way I imagine

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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and BV is a spell, so should work

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Throw it on a boss. It ramps on the boss

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You dont have to do shit. And get all the benefits of BV

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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also, RF brands templarLul

minor oyster Jun 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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s e e d c a y s h

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:48 PM

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BV brands are my dream now

zinc smelt Jun 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Fire storm brand poedab

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 9:54 PM

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BV brands? You mean vaal BV? templarLul

tidal frost Jun 2, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I want to do icestorm brands but I want to have more than 3 fps

distant scarab Jun 2, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I absolutely must know what that Krangled Offering of the Goddess will do @_@

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 9:55 PM

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@wild arch vaal bv on crack

distant scarab Jun 2, 2020, 9:56 PM

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BV Brands lets go

coarse moon Jun 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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shock nova brands :3

worn crane Jun 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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cyclone viable 4head

distant scarab Jun 2, 2020, 9:57 PM

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BV Brands is absolutely first thing I will be trying

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Crossing my finger and hoping my brands persist their BV stacks when recalled and it like... works?

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Agnostic MoM trickster league starter witchlove

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 10:00 PM

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yeah I think I will also start BV poison brands

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ez dmg

lofty stratus Jun 2, 2020, 10:04 PM

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I dont see how bv brands will work

distant scarab Jun 2, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Well the hope is the brands will keep their BV stacks

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It depends on if the new archmage brand skill will work with cooldown skills, I suspect it will

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Oh wait no BV doesnt even have a cooldown, yeah I think itll work

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The hope is that your brands will cast BV and carry the BV around on them, and brand recall will not make you lose bv stacks off em

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I think itll work actually.

frosty aurora Jun 2, 2020, 10:07 PM

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pee pee poo poo

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plants

pearl nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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but the brands when recasting BV will "reset" the number of blades or add to them normally? any info on that by GGG?

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I wonder if the BV will expire based on it's own CD or based on the brand CD

coarse moon Jun 2, 2020, 10:09 PM

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probably both

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the brand duration keeps the entity moving while it’s own duration is what keeps the blades up

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would be my guess

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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That's the logical assumption

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I think either way it's awesome cuz you can cast the BV from a distance

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so like a permanent vaal bv

pearl nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:12 PM

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and they probably will have a unique that will benefit brands this league

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so it might be a good league for those who like brands

echo shale Jun 2, 2020, 10:13 PM

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also hyped for slams

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:13 PM

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That tech slam buff is massive

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At least for its consistency

pearl nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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slam + new warcrys + cluster jewels

coarse moon Jun 2, 2020, 10:14 PM

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tec slam already had really good endurance sustain thanks to the warcry clusters

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kinda hope there’s more to the change than that

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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SEPTEMBER 1 FOLKS

silver kettle Jun 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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there are a lot of changes that buff tec slam (and other slams) indirectly, as well as direct changes that I don't think were mentioned specifically

violet nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:16 PM

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"the high budget league"

kindred dagger Jun 2, 2020, 10:18 PM

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farmer simulator so huh !

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sometime GGG seems to wanna makes complicated system just to make complicated things, still this feels interesting especialy for new crafting recipe that allows more précise modifications !

coarse moon Jun 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

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good to hear, ty viper

pearl nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:20 PM

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yea, I don't get why people on reddit are already shitting on this league and saying they gonna skip it. I mean, we haven't even played it yet

coarse moon Jun 2, 2020, 10:21 PM

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bc its not "kill things get rich" league again

tidal frost Jun 2, 2020, 10:21 PM

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people shit on all league instantly

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and skip every league

upper pebble Jun 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Herald stacking again boiz

pearl nymph Jun 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I'm far from an experienced player but having a more slow-paced league seems great after delirium

kindred dagger Jun 2, 2020, 10:24 PM

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the thing is that there will be every time people that arent happy, unless you are really the most butthurt dude, its not allways the same that complains

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when its a fast league, slow people complain when its a slow league fast people complain, huh shocking i know !

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

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So they said harvest crafting is just like currency, does that mean i can annull an item to 0 mods and then add 6 harvest mods?

kindred dagger Jun 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

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the thing with such league that could be a downside, is that it seems to not add anything concrete as a gameplay, for exemple delirium is somehow a minigame, and it add a event on its own, here just farming isnt that trhilling for now at least, that something i can understand

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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yeah my only fear is that mapping will basically be standard + 1 click

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Delirium will still be a thing

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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yeah but delirium is old content now

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

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What does that change

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Those who want zoom zoom still got zoom zoom

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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It changes that i play new leagues because they change the game

kindred dagger Jun 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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So far the game didnt manage to gives any good added experience anyway, everytime it just ended beeing a new mod that just makes you farm bigger monster or cluncky mecanics, but the game never gives anything interactive, but i guess its just what POE is, a simple bashing, asian farming style game like many.

builds are the real main interest of the game not so much the gameplay itself

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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You can play delirium with new toys now templarthumbsup

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

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yeah i think some mindset change will be required

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Usually it was like "im gonna farm 10 ex for that next item upgrade"

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and now its probably more like "i have these 20 half finished items, and every few maps i get to try to make them a little better"

little haven Jun 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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New league looks dumb

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A fuckin farm game?!

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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rushing high tier maps is gonna make you so rich

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since you want the juicy bases

kindred dagger Jun 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i would love to see an ARPG finaly comming with more action base gameplay and less point and clic old rpg based on D&D classic, but seems devs never want to inovate

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I mean theres a craft to add a random influence mod to an item and one to remove a influence mod

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that seems insane

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

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@kindred dagger you might enjoy PSO2 in that case, even tho it's an 8 years old game

worthy turtle Jun 2, 2020, 10:35 PM

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that's IF you can get PSO2 to work

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😄

kindred dagger Jun 2, 2020, 10:36 PM

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no dont like the style, and the gameplay is bland, its just a pseudo action rpg, like can be black desert online and things like that, its ok but the systeme is classic as well nothings new and nothings mmuch exiting

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its just another classic mmo rpg

ashen lotus Jun 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I so hope I can scale arcanist brand well, it looks awesome.

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Though ball lightning mines seems like the safer starter

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Especially on account of being able to frontload all the damage at the farms.

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I really wonder how all that harvest slamming is turning out.
Either it's decently common to get some type of "add a value" harvest exalted, that would probably make regular exalts drop in price by a lot, or they are relativly rare and cost more than a regular ex, making the crafting extremely limited again

limpid wigeon Jun 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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the idea is that the plants offer unique crafting methods, not just bottled currencies

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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yeah, most of the options are better than using a regular ex

limpid wigeon Jun 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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like how bestiary has imprint and add/remove suffix/prefix

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:20 PM

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So if everyone gets a bunch of "target exalts", regular ex arnt really that hot anymore

kindred dagger Jun 2, 2020, 11:21 PM

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thats is probably a bit of trouble, this league doesnt add any new nothing to actualy challenge

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:21 PM

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you can still do the hpyer juiced up delirium stuff, id say its still hard enough

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I wonder if this is going to bring back insanely high unique prices

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Since their value is likely not much affected be the league mechanic

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while rares that were considerd really strong right now are going down

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In the first week sought after bases will be worth a huge amount too

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But if the unique conversion harvest crafts are weighted like the bestiary ones, then the league adds basically no higher drop for uniques than in standard

analog flame Jun 2, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I don’t understand how you can say it’s not challenging ? That is something you wouldn’t know as you don’t know the strength of the mobs, how many mobs you can have at one time, how the bosses are ect

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:24 PM

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They never mentioned it being hard, and it's kinda clearly not the concept of the league to be hard

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With delirium they mentioned again and again that its gonna be difficult

analog flame Jun 2, 2020, 11:25 PM

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That’s fair enough just make your opinions based around what you know not what you’re speculating

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I thought delve would be ass, I was wrong, this didn’t look too good imo at first glance but I’m warming to it

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I'm looking forward to it as well

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rushing hier tier maps to sell bases is gonna earn you a fortune this league

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(it always did, but even more so this time)

river silo Jun 2, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I wonder how the new spell brand interacts with uniques that give embedded spells, like Whispering Ice

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Does it cast the embedded spell?

analog flame Jun 2, 2020, 11:28 PM

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If it’s a support I would assume so

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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it's an active though

river silo Jun 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Well, it could be like spellslinger

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Active and passive component

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Also if it triggers linked spells in sequence, Elemental Equilibrium starts to become interesting

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Cant you test with spellslinger? If it triggers a spell thats given by an item, i would assume it also works with the brand

river silo Jun 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Arcanist + Main Skill + Another Skill of another element to trigger EE

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I can't because Whispering Ice is a staff

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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yeah with a different item that grants a spell

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thats not a weapon

river silo Jun 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Hmm. Any suggestions?

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Can't recall any unique that grants a spell that isn't a weapon.

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:34 PM

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allelopathy adds blight right?

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or gorgons gaze, summon petrification statue is also a spell

river silo Jun 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Those are cheap right?

bronze cave Jun 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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yeah

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they cost nothing

river silo Jun 2, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Gotcha, gonna test it out later when the horde goes to sleep.

distant scarab Jun 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ok so here we go, what is the other chase prefix on boots other than elusive + 35% move speed

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max life I guess?

wild arch Jun 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Riiiiiiiiiight, you'll be able to farm target annuls that remove specific modifiers

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:13 AM

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after harvest goes core i can't imagine what standard will look like lmao

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the items made will be ridiculous

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:14 AM

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i mean they already said its probably not going core with that power level

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:14 AM

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they said harvest probably won't go core? like right off the bat?

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:14 AM

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they said it wont go core with that level of power it has in league

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as in, they will probably nerf how good it is after the league

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:17 AM

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either way i'm super excited for this league

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cyclone might not be the melee meta lmao

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Maybe they're removing the stun immunity of cyclone too, like they planned last league

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:18 AM

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the area on earthquake and ground slam looked absolutely bonkers

zealous monolith Jun 3, 2020, 12:19 AM

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The league mechanic and revamped passive tree seem interesting, though I'm a bit unhappy about cluster jewels going core.

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 12:20 AM

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If agnostic is getting moved from a timeless jewel onto the main tree then what's gonna happen to the rest of the jewels 🤔

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:20 AM

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the timeless jewels are getting new keystones

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apparently soul tether is getting added as a keystone?

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Wait what

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:21 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/gvgkxp/agnostic_and_glancing_blows_on_passive_tree/fsok49s/

r/pathofexile - Comment by u/Nickoladze on ”Agnostic and Glancing B...

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violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:22 AM

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yeah

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so they're putting some of the timeless keystones on the tree and replacing the ones on the jewels with new ones

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and by "some" i mean like almost half lol

distant edge Jun 3, 2020, 12:22 AM

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reverse pogger league

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:22 AM

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i think they said like 9 of them are going on the tree

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Glancing blows AND agnostic on MoM trickster is like a wet dream

silver kettle Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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not all of the keystones being added to the tree are coming from timeless jewels 🙂

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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😐

zealous monolith Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I wonder if any existing keystone are being moved to timeless jewels

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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new keystonesssss

zealous monolith Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Inb4 CI not being on the passive tree anymore

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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what

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CI is a defining keystone

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 12:24 AM

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paint attunement moved to timeless templarLul

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:24 AM

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it's not getting removed

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pain attunement getting reworked or removed is far more likely imo

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cause lowlife is super meta

zealous monolith Jun 3, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I'm not being serious, in case it isn't obvious

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Can someone explain the "reveals" wording on seeds?

It says "reveals a random phyiscal modifier when harvested". So i harvest it, i get a cool modifier, but i dont have an item for it right now. I cant save the craft, so it just lost?

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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it's like bestiary

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Or is reveals like the betrayal unveiling, and the next time i find a seed with that craft, it will show what it is?

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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the craft is there to use

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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I thought i heard something like "once the instance is gone, the craft is gone"

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 12:27 AM

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The way I understood it is that it will add a craftable mod to a nearby harvesting device

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:40 AM

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idk i think it's like... you kill the mobs and have lifeforce to craft with. if you dont craft with it, you condense it to use for growing higher tier shit. it's entirely possible that you have to condense it or lose it

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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yeah but thats only the life force, not the crafting options

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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crafting options are tied to the seeds you grew

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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yeah, the seeds provide the crafting option and the lifeforce

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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idk if we 'unlock' that craft option tho

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it might be something like, all seeds contribute crafting options to the harvester or w/e its called

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and you can spend lifeforce on any of them

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and after that instance is gone, any unused crafts or uncondensed lifeforce is gone

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it COULD be like betrayal but i doubt it. we dont have enough info to know either way tho

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Appearently in the Q&A they said if you dont use the craft immidiatly, it is lost

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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well there you go

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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But that kinda goes against the concept of "you know what you plant beforehand"

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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how?

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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All 3 seeds shown on the harvest website have "reveals a random <something> effect when harvrested"

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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right

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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So i dont know which one of those i'm gonna get

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only until after im in the position where i have to use it right now or lose it

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:45 AM

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well by "immediately" they mean that instance

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Chris specifically said you'd have time to trade for things if you need to

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but it does give you more info than "random effect"

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"random effect that exchanges specalised currency"

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"random effect that changes elemental modifiers"

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:46 AM

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yeah but "random physical modifier" can be a target exalt for phys or an annull

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these are very different and its kinda clunky to trade for some item that can use it every time

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I imagine you're not going to want to use every single one

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you'll have a wealth of mods, you use the ones that make sense and the rest of the lifeforce goes to growing more complicated shit

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you can see the trend with the seed tiers

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tier 1 is a much more random effect

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but 2 and 3 get more specific as you go

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you will have a fuckton of t1s

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While most seeds grow easily, rarer high-tier ones require more careful planning but yield more valuable results.

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part of that value is in their consistency

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:50 AM

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i'm assuming exalt and annull like effects needs to be pretty rare on t1s then

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because these are already insanely powerful

pearl nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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I've probably missed it but what is the order of the tiers? lowest is 1?

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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yes tier 1 is most common

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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lowest is 1, bosses are 4 i think

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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theyre like maps

pearl nymph Jun 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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ah ok. thanks

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 1:00 AM

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can someone try to explain what happens in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTtyS9upBE8

At 1:10 he goes near a field of many purple flowers. He quickly hovers over one which says "reveals a random physical modifier craft on harvest".
He kills the monster. At 1:40, he clicks the havester to access the crafts, but there is only 1 craft there, whith 3 charges, and its "reroll an item, includes caster mod".

Why is there only 1 craft with 3 charges, he harvested way more than 3 flowers
Where is the random phys craft option?

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Path of Exile: Harvest - Sacred Grove gameplay and battle

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lost quartz Jun 3, 2020, 1:00 AM

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possibly only 1 type of flower?

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(didn't watch it btw)

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 1:01 AM

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yes, but it should be 1 crafting charge for every flower, and one flower was "reroll with physical modifier", but he only got something with caster mods

lost quartz Jun 3, 2020, 1:01 AM

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hmm

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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was there another harvester thing

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maybe it went to a different one

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 1:05 AM

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📎 harvester.png

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its only connected to a condenser

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 1:05 AM

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rough

untold dragon Jun 3, 2020, 1:12 AM

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quick mock up of efficient harvest layout based on how i understand the mechanic https://i.imgur.com/5HQDs8X.png

Imgur

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Well, the garden is massive

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We need what determine cycle life of plant

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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thats explained/answered

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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every seed caysh you open is one growth cycle

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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each time u click a cache in map (or zone) = 1 tick/cycle

pearl fossil Jun 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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What we don't know is the pattern for the special stuff besides T4 boss.

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 1:28 AM

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pattern?

pearl fossil Jun 3, 2020, 1:29 AM

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or if it's worth it aside from the most T4 efficient pattern, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of different combinations for stuff.

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I imagine you'll have a "high tier" growing spot with plants that are growing but never harvested so you can cycle through the high tier seeds repeatedly and then a "low tier" growing spot where you're collecting condensed lifeforce to send to the high tier

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Can another player steal the harvest

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 1:36 AM

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"No, only you can collect your harvest.... Right guys?" looks offscreen

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what the fuck.... does anyone know what this purple shit growing on the ground is

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https://youtu.be/qBzUEspW5P0?t=31

YouTube

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Path of Exile: Harvest - Penance Brand gameplay

Learn more about the upcoming league in our in-depth preview only on PC Invasion: https://bit.ly/2ZTPelB

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native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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thats the indicator for the league

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leads u to the seed cache

minor oyster Jun 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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ah

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damn arcanist brand looks sick, even with fireball

mighty spindle Jun 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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bro what

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gardening

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3xG

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I never thought I'd be doing gardening in my entire life

brave pulsar Jun 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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📎 encounter_farmer_2.ogg

tiny flint Jun 3, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Is penance brand too clunky

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Im not sold on the charge mechanics

silver kettle Jun 3, 2020, 2:50 AM

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we've had to nerf its clear speed twice so far because it's too damn fast

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take that as you will templarLul

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 2:51 AM

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isnt its clear speed directly tied to it's duration/brand recall cooldown?

silver kettle Jun 3, 2020, 2:52 AM

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somewhat

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 2:53 AM

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can see ppl using less duration on it for clear and swap to empower for boss hmmm

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if its duration is short enough to naturally expire to explode instead of relying on recall

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guessing this is a hard cap on the plants itself instead of due to the space of the grove?

📎 unknown.png

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 3:27 AM

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i'm reading a lot of people saying that this is gonna be a super clunky thing to deal with
but i really liked synthesis and this looks a lot like synthesis but with less loading screens

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:28 AM

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hmm, clunky how?

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 3:29 AM

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people who are basically "i don't want to think about how i interact with the league mechanic" and wanted "me click button, me kill"

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:29 AM

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mechanic itself seems pretty straightforward with potentials to minmax efficiency in the farm (dk how much of a difference it'll be yet) , and the crafting potentials are huge

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they can still do the same though

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click seed, click harvester kill

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i guess tier 2 onwards require some mgmt to meet the requirement of the lfieforce and other types

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which is also fairly simple, but yeah if they rather not bother with that, spamming t1 seeds all day is fine too

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:30 AM

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i like that the rewards are baked into the crafting instead of being a loot explosion

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so this league will have a far healthier economy i bet

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less flooding of the market

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:31 AM

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just the current list of crafting we see so far are already pretty powerful, if there's a few more of those it could lead to some pretty easy gg item >_>

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:41 AM

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i think thats fine though, because the league doesn't drop any other loot. if it also dropped an insane amount of currency or whatever then i'd have a problem, but on SSF it's super nice to have these strong crafting options and on trade it's going to make selling your harvested crafts profitable if challenging

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Can we sell the harvest? The lifeforce?

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Sell the craft i mean

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:43 AM

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lifeforce is not tradeable

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Ah ok

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:43 AM

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craft u could the way we currently do, but beware of scams

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:44 AM

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i'm not a huge fan of the fact that you can't save your crafts like in bestiary

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:44 AM

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But we can store life force?

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:44 AM

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it's more you saving your seeds and hoping you get the crafts you need from them

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:44 AM

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yes

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:44 AM

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so it's a far more active league mechanic than say bestiary

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which is probably for the best

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i've a feeling beasts are gonna still be useful this league

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Craft is random like veil or always there with cost of lifeforce?

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:45 AM

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on the seed u'll see the type of craft u can get from it

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i.e: physical related

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but its random which ones u actually get from it (remove/add,etc)

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:46 AM

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so basically if you need a physical craft you plant a bunch of physical seeds until you get the exact craft you need

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it's more active in that if you don't craft what you need there in that instance, you lose the craft

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:47 AM

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The craft will stay if not used right, i mean i can have lot craft wait until i get right eq

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:47 AM

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nope

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crafts are per-instance

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so if you don't use them they go away

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I thought garden is stay as it is when i leave

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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the garden does, but not the life force

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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garden stay, stored lifeforce stay

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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oh

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well

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the crafts do die

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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unstored lifeforce, craft doesnt stay

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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yeah

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so here's an example of a bit of gameplay:

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a person wants to craft, say, dictator's, on their weapon that has flaring and the t1 %phys

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to get the exalt variant of the phys craft, they have to be very lucky

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so they continuously plant physical seeds and fight physical enemies

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until they get the exalt craft, and use it

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none of the other crafts they'd get would stay

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Plant and then do map until they ready to harvest

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:50 AM

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this system is for people actively trying to craft specific items

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Not find any plant again

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 3:55 AM

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i'm really looking forward to the "reroll other elements as x element"

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that'll be great for making muy bueno temple items

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:56 AM

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i hope it'd work with that

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:56 AM

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just hope it'll tell u beforehand if it cant work with x item/mods instead of consuming then no change =x

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:57 AM

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yeah it generally tells you before hand

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that being said

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 3:57 AM

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we'll work out very quickly which mods are legal for which functions

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:57 AM

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it wouldn't just give you a different temple mod lol

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it'd give you a normal elemental mod

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so most cases would be bad

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:57 AM

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i.e: phys dmg taken as X on Y influence, can that be converted to another element, which technically the mod cant exist without Z influence

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 3:58 AM

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i thought it said "reroll it into an equivalent element"?

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so like... topotante's ice might turn into topotante's fire?

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:59 AM

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violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:59 AM

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that would be nuts if that's how it works lol

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:59 AM

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phys dmg taken as X are tagged as their respective X element

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 3:59 AM

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but we might actually be able to use temple mods without spending billions of exalts so that's something

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 3:59 AM

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so it's a X element mod

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which should work with this?

solid hill Jun 3, 2020, 4:00 AM

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the 1 in the top left is indicating that the crafted mod is temporary too, right

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so you have to farm up more uses of the crafting mods

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 4:01 AM

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i wonder if they're gonna add the content cut from conquerors

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Wait, they all have mechanic like flask?

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 4:01 AM

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?

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Wear off every use

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 4:01 AM

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not what they're saying

solid hill Jun 3, 2020, 4:02 AM

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no, I'm saying that for example in Sieghart's screenshot, he can only use that mod once and then that mod will disappear from the bench until he gets it again

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like here, it makes no sense that 4, 5 and 6 sockets would be the same cost, but it's just because the 6 socket crafting mod will "drop" more rarely

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and it only has 1 rather than 3 uses in the bank

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 4:03 AM

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we know nothing about how this works yet @cobalt falcon

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sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 4:04 AM

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that's a mad juicy mod

cobalt falcon Jun 3, 2020, 4:04 AM

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I hope mod that crafted not also -1 every map

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 4:04 AM

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gonna be broke af if you can add that implicit to a unique

solid hill Jun 3, 2020, 4:04 AM

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what implicit?

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 4:05 AM

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u'll use up most of it's meaningful uses in the first map, and barely any use for 2nd map and 3rd map it's over lol

solid hill Jun 3, 2020, 4:06 AM

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if it stacks with the existing increased duration mod that would be kinda cool

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and if it's a very common drop so you can keep reapplying it

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 4:06 AM

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it would stack additively

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and i would expect it to be fairly common

solid hill Jun 3, 2020, 4:07 AM

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they might be in the same mod group 🤷‍♀️

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 4:08 AM

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it could be that it turns out to be decently common. you put a flask plant in with your normal crafting and it eithers costs so little lifeforce that you use it every time it pops up, or you use it as a spare option, or it's a not-bad option that appears when you're trying to get other, better flask mods

limpid wigeon Jun 3, 2020, 5:12 AM

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i mean its an enchant so it seems like its just really good

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 5:56 AM

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farmville-craft league doesnt seem interesting if all the rewards are crafting related

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 5:58 AM

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here's some noncrafting reward if u missed it

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frosty aurora Jun 3, 2020, 6:16 AM

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84 ilvl uber labyrinth here we come

wet plaza Jun 3, 2020, 6:34 AM

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I won't

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otterPeek

hushed sequoia Jun 3, 2020, 6:42 AM

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Uber uber lab?

fallow veldt Jun 3, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Harvest seems very ssf friendly :>

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 6:54 AM

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I just can't get over the stackable timeless keystones whatYouDidThere

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 6:55 AM

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they aren't?

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 6:56 AM

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@sour mountain those are crafted

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 6:56 AM

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?

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 6:56 AM

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I mean in the sense of having more than one

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 6:56 AM

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oh sorry pinged wrong person @sour mountain

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Like glancing blows and agnostic together

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 6:57 AM

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@native sonnet those are actually crafted. the uber lab one for sure. same with the flask and the map not using sexants

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or are you saying non-crafted related rewards

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Venerius should get a new Keystone if it’s getting added to the tree right?

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 6:58 AM

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some of them yeah but idk if all of them are crafted

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Supposedly all the jewels are getting new ones

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 6:58 AM

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holy shit

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 6:58 AM

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They basically said that those are made by crafting @native sonnet

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Also i want to make that Herald of Thunder ring work

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like as a pure build idea.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pRRXwgMVv8&feature=emb_title

YouTube

Path of Exile

Storm Secret

▶ Play video

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just the increase in speed makes it look/feel much better

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could also create a CWDT loop using it.

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Doesn't seem as effective as firestorm loop

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Seems to be designed for autobombers yeah

silver kettle Jun 3, 2020, 7:05 AM

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My idea for it was really just to give old school bombers some single target

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But should be a bit more versatile than just that

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:07 AM

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after resists you only take like 62.5 dmg?

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:07 AM

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I’m struggling to think how to make that unique body armor work now that Baran makes Lightning damage over time so common

upbeat pagoda Jun 3, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Is pyromimes still a good gem for starter?

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:07 AM

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via his dumb runes

fallow veldt Jun 3, 2020, 7:08 AM

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armor tank fo rlightning

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so the point is to go to -60 lighting, eye of the malice

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:08 AM

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I thought it says it only works for hits

fallow veldt Jun 3, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Just dodge then :))

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 7:08 AM

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cant seem to make an efficient layout for tier 4 seed =/

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:09 AM

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just make a second character to fight Shock and Horror

fallow veldt Jun 3, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Exactly x)

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baran influence will be killer with this item

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Why are people comparing this league to synthesis marauderthinking

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It's a mix of bestiary and metamorph

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:19 AM

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synthesis crafting potency

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:19 AM

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If I would guess, Synthesis made a lot of broken gear accessible, and the crafting options shown so far looks so powerful

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:19 AM

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cuz id argue it's crafting potency is just better than bestiary and closer to synth levels

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:19 AM

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But you're not power creeping gear with extra implicits

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:20 AM

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you're just power creeping with targeted annuls, exalts, and just flat crafts that don't take your crafted mod slot

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which i'd argue is better

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Being given even more control over influence mods too

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:21 AM

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also this is closer to betrayal than anything crafting wise

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anyone remember the conversion crafts? :^)

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Imagine if Guff gave something like this

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:22 AM

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People seem to be ignoring the challenge Vs reward factor

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:23 AM

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https://i.redd.it/ryic6d6unk251.png

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You can make assumptions on this based purely off iconography and costs.

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numbers next to the icons on the left side are likely uses left of it from the seeds

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:25 AM

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I think what’s more likely is that all the cool crafting options are just super rare to encounter

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:25 AM

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That and the mobs they spawn most likely won't be a pushover

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:25 AM

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well yeah. they are likely weighted

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also you can see directly that they are ilevel based

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:27 AM

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I expect the mobs will probably be between Metamorph and Blight difficulty

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:28 AM

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I'd argue that they will be blight for the non-boss mobs

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:28 AM

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At least this time people won't need to bitch about neon rainbow on muddy brown 😂

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:28 AM

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yup

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also the crafts that have my attention for early on in the league, are t1's which is nice

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i might be able to flip shit items into good ones

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unique into another unique of that type sounds nice

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Ancient orbs are always fun

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Now I need to figure out how to make this wack cleave trickster idea work marauderthinking

austere anvil Jun 3, 2020, 7:33 AM

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is this asked/answered by GGG somewhere - is it possible to PK if you're in a fight in grove and someone joins your party

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how it used to be in delve

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Is glancing, agnostic, MoM and fortify too much or not enough? vanity

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:39 AM

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it is never enough

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:41 AM

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I was thinking about trickster at first, but on second through just mana leech should be enough in theory

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:42 AM

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trickster is over on right side, agnostic is over on left side... i don't really like that pathing

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Isn't it next to Scion life wheel?

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:43 AM

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yeah i guess if you're going there anyway its not bad

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:45 AM

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But yeah that's why I'm thinking about alternatives

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Oh

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:45 AM

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glancing, agnostic, mom, fortify... why not go champion for +fortify

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Warcry spamming zerker has mana sustain

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:46 AM

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yeah you could go warcry something. especially if you're doing an ele melee attack. then you can get into three edge sockets and you have lots of options for clusters

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Seismic cry could make one handed stun work finally

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Which would add an extra survivability layer

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:48 AM

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maybe i should play mana guardian along that line.

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north past MoM to get ele damage wheel. play consecrated path
south through marauder life wheel to get to melee damage.
find a way to go left to grab armor wheel

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after that, go for... i don't know if id have budget past that point to buy anything other than the essential minion damage stuff, and defense?
and it'd be dependent on getting nice clusters. not great in ssf.
cons path is at least a comfy af starter build once you get a good enough mace

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:50 AM

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They mentioned more rage related nodes

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Maybe chain strike might finally be usable

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:51 AM

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i had a ton of fun with chain strike when i played with it, but whether it's gooood...

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if there are new rage wheels you can also try for that cluster trait for rage, but i can't remember if that was ever good

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Chain strike has a problem that isn't rage

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it's clunkiness

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:52 AM

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ehhh, bloodscent is 1 rage per second...
oh hey cute chinese girl right outside my office

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Is glancing worth it for dual wield? marauderthinking

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:54 AM

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what is glancing. is that the karui legion stone one that doubles block?

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Yeah

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 7:55 AM

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yes it is
mmmm... i guess it depends on your block chance

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Hm, Cowl of the Thermophile with Doryani’s Prototype. Enemies get -115% lightning res rageSkill

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Then you only need to find Cold Res on gear

wild arch Jun 3, 2020, 7:57 AM

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And you get instakilled by Baran's mana tiles

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 7:58 AM

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Can’t progress past Act 9 because the Refinery boss lightning towers too hard

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 7:59 AM

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u dont want "reduced lightning res" with prototype

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u want flat - light res

gloomy bay Jun 3, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Oh damn you’re right, that’s not - lightning res on those helmets

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 8:05 AM

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yeah the zappy towers on general adus are opop

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nerf plz ggg

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worse than porcupines.

bitter ledge Jun 3, 2020, 8:11 AM

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This isn't completely related to harvest itself, but is there any news on the atlas? Are we gonna get a tier reshuffle?

native sonnet Jun 3, 2020, 8:12 AM

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no official confirmation yet, but likely

sour mountain Jun 3, 2020, 8:17 AM

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we get atlas reshuffles every league so i'd be surprised if we don't

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(don't fact check me plz)

bitter ledge Jun 3, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Ah. I really hope that at least Fungal Hollow, Beach, Strand, Park, Canyon or Arcade will be Tier 1-3.

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Inb4 they're all Tier 5+ templarLul

final wolf Jun 3, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Imagine Beyond not being a zana mod

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 8:42 AM

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it should happen lol

violet nymph Jun 3, 2020, 9:33 AM

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https://poe.trade/search/nayohomimikayo putting this link here for future reference lol

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might farm dark forest for the greatwolf card until i can get one with one of the 100% lightning damage taken as cold/fire

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thankfully dark forest feels pretty good to run

red jackal Jun 3, 2020, 9:52 AM

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do planted seeds count as adjacents plants or do they need to have completed one growth cycle?

do harvestable plants still count as adjacent plants?

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 9:58 AM

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I'm a little worried that after you get some decent starter gear together, most of the crafting options feel useless to you

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Aka the only things you're really looking for anymore are specific exalted/anull effects

storm copper Jun 3, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Thats what will happen yeah

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Except if you can do more of those temporary enchants on regular gear

bronze cave Jun 3, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Feels like the gameplay loop might feel a bit unrewarding at that point then

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depending on how common these crafts are i guess