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coral garden
hasty escarp
Which part
dreamy carbon
Mods
coral garden
And check if your jewel can roll what u want plus the weights
hasty escarp
Yeah the base is definitely correct, but I didn't know the notables have different weights
full basin
what's the easiest straightforward build to clear 20 waves of simmulacrium?
violet nymph
5 herald + hh + bv
hasty perch
if you have the 5 herald hh bv going you probably don't need to be running simmulacrums anymore tho
vapid patio
what does adding delirum influence do besides permanent delirum
like what does 40% more delirious even to a map
do to a map*
vapid patio
for the mobs?
tawny pasture
Yup
willow forum
how hard is the sirus fight? is it like old shaper or much harder?
tender tusk
easier once you understand it
willow forum
i can get to him now. how to respawn him?
eager terrace
you have to kill all 4 conquerors again
willow forum
yeaaaaah i got him <3
fossil fable
Is the fog not pausing for Legion encounters for anyone else? I've done it four times so far and it hasn't stopped at all. It doesn't stop during the "frozen" phase or the fight.
eager terrace
I think it pauses for the "breakout" phase only
dark condor
I'm running Bane with Despair, a medium cluster jewel with Dark Discourse and tried a Witchfire Brew.
Due to Dark Discourse enemies cursed are hindered. If the Despair aura is active the aura hinders me too, while applying with Bane doesn't. Is this a intended behavior or could it be a bug?
shell quail
Is the total amount of monsters in Simulacrum fixed or does it change based on clearspeed?
eager terrace
which makes legions kind of bad for delirium tbh
fossil fable
it doesn't pause during that phase either, I purposely waited for the fog to come near me to test it, and when I activated the encounter it kept going
that's what I meant when I said the "frozen" phase
happened twice
eager terrace
wouldn't surprise me
all I know is you can't stick around to fight or loot them so I just skip them until after the fog is up
the only ones I feel like work properly right now are blight and breach
fossil fable
yeah I've started skipping them
Abyss also stops it
but sometimes it runs back out of the fog lol
fossil fable
Syndicate and Incursion have also paused it from what I've seen
fossil fable
ah that's fair
eager terrace
and I don't feel like I have any time to decide what to do with them
fossil fable
oh wait actually last time I did one, it didn't pause during my Intervention
eager terrace
it definitely isn't paused while waiting for you to decide their fate
and I've seen it pass right through a research
fossil fable
nah, it was during the fight
eager terrace
once I saw that I was like hell nah
cursive widget
anyone know what all the "hidden" auras are for this new harbinger nerf?
storm crown
probly the neck, tailwind
cursive widget
no way you think they are really nerfing solstice?
storm crown
would make sense to not classified as an aura*
storm crown
yes but change it to not get affected
cursive widget
what do you mean?
storm crown
but deep down its the heraldry and endbringer notables are just to overtuned
vast gazelle
Tbh I hope they only hit purposeful harbinger
When you invest that much into heralds for the sake of heralds the benefits need to be that good to be worth playing, it's just abusable with 50% aura effect per jewel
Like how golem or herald stack without jewels is just fine to good for a lot of things
It's great but doesn't snap the game in half
storm crown
geting affect from each herald should probly just be removedf
vast gazelle
Given they are also pretty directly referencing that too my guess is just gutting purp harb
storm crown
125% damage and 50% aura affect on you is so high
nimble fiber
so purposeful harb + the things like sv, tailwind, and those spore gloves?
limpid sonnet
get 10 fps with delirium literally unplayable
sour mountain
i think purposeful harbinger will likely be quite good, just not silly?
and i don't actually think heraldry is broken but maybe that's just me
terse quartz
its gonna be broken still
anyone going purposeful + heraldry is fine really
its the Replenishing Presence passive that got nerfed, so the straight up aura stacking
and other non-aura stuff gets nerfed, like tailwind
pallid quartz
are golems affected?
raven violet
well , just sold Voices 3 passive 80 ex last night
now it's about 50~60 xD
so lucky
scenic jolt
Likewise, sold 3/5 voices for 23-25ex each this week. Those people I traded to are now on suicide watch. Oh Bex, why have you forsaken them?
neat rover
anyone knows how much dps you need for 100% delirium shaper map
becausei just tried
i couldnt even kill mobs
wtf
fossil fable
What tier? My friend and I run Delirium maps together so we have the party scaling, and he has about 2 million without me but I'm running curses and Auras that scale his skill so it's probably higher, and I have about 500k, we can clear somewhat decently even with the extra health on the mobs
I forget how much health gets scaled up but I'd say from that, 1.5 million dps might be comfortable for red maps?
midnight phoenix
i have about 12m non shaper dps and t16 full delirium is uncomfortable for me
steep hollow
https://i.imgur.com/267wsQ3.jpg hey guys, i used a delirium orb on a map, and now that i've cleared it, i want to end the encounter so i can get the rewards but there's no button like usual... am i missing something?
opal nacelle
urban crown
wtf, firt time i looted Tabula Rasa after a delirium event
worthy turtle
its a shame loot drops in delirium influenced maps as the bar fills. Would make more sense and be more rewarding to have it all come at the end when you click the button to end it.
tawny pasture
how can it be more rewarding ?
you Cant end delirium map with delirium orb on , its just non sens to do it
nova trail
how do I get the rewards from the fog maps when I have rolled an orb on them? The fog does not stop
worthy turtle
not more rewarding, in the sense that it provides more loot.
but more rewarding to run them, as it's not stopping every few seconds to pick shit up
tawny pasture
@nova trail you already got all the loot
nova trail
@tawny pasture yes thxs
oblique stone
Any advice on how to zone back in to Simulacrum after dying? I've run 2 so far: died on wave 17 and wave 20. Could never get back in without just instantly dying.
patent canyon
phasing and go fast
oblique stone
was act 3 map, portal was at the end of a small walkway. zoned in with arcane cloak/flasts but couldn't flame dash or shield charge through
spice cipher
rip
ruby spire
A3 map is worst I've seen so far
oblique stone
a4 was pretty cramped
storm crown
Remember you are invulnerable for a while after entering a portal
As long as you arent moving
silent loom
don't move when you enter
wait for monsters to do their first round of attacks and then go back in
if you have a self cast guard then you should activate that
midnight phoenix
a source of phasing is pretty vital in late wave simulacrum if you dont have enough dps to insta delete mobs
quartz flask, withering step, phase run, etc
white bison
Does action speed impact cooldown recovery?
languid path
no, there's no action being performed
distant quest
русские есть?
worthy turtle
wave 1 - armour
wave 2 - armour
wave 3 - jewelery
wave 4 - armour
wave 5 - perandus + prophecy
so far, I'm impressed
ohhh wave 6, double perandus!
oh fml. wave 7, double weapon
subtle gyro
olive phoenix
do cluster jewels drop on d-orbed maps? i ran 5 full clears with no cluster drops
tawny pasture
yup they do
raven gorge
what is dad thing that hits me almost kills me but no one cant touch him
tawny pasture
ground effect
pliant stream
how does the delirium orbs, wich makes the area delirius affect currency etc? like do this increases the chance of drops from mobs? does it makes them just harder?
frigid holly
AFter I've killed everything in a delerium-orb'd map how do I get it to drop the alst lot of loot? (siting at 4, 4) but I cannot find a way to make it drop it...?
sterile brook
@frigid holly the loot drops when you finish each reward all the way through - if it's really high on 4/4, then you need to kill a few monsters to bump it to the start of 5/5 to get a reward. If there aren't any monsters left, that's all the loot you'll get
foggy prism
delirium brought back old poe dificulty, you zoomers saying this is too hard are just butthurt and salty from diablo 3 being your wife's boyfriend lover
hasty perch
the issue with delirium is not difficulty
it's performances
and the design is not great imo
making 90% of the danger on death effect is not exactly interesting
amber laurel
If death effects are a problem, you aren't moving fast enough? /s
quaint magnet
on death effects are the only way to interact with the player since maps always get oneshot to oblivion by the better builds
exotic lake
Sadly they balance the game around the better builds, leaving less and less room for the worse ones
quaint magnet
well balancing with a plethora of possible builds like this game has is impossible
you either balance for the people that sink thousands of hours into the game and have very efficient builds or you balance around those that just dabble in making builds but dont want to invest the time to actually flesh them out
as long as those "OP" builds exist not all builds will be able to clear all content. otherwise the game would be boring after a very short time (see Diablo 3 and every Set being able to speedfarm till GR90 and with some knowledge able to clear GR150)
last river
tbh I think making content easier overall wouldn't actually punish players with better builds
The thing about PoE is, damage is just one of the things you can spend money on
If you spent elsewhere and don't need to wear, say, a cherrubims because you already have enough damage, you could wear an explosion chest
So despite the content being easier overall, you can clear it much faster
hasty perch
it's more the design and performance than the difficulty that annoys me
I don't particularly enjoy backtracking to loot once the delirium is over , but if my build isn't either very tanky or fast enough to grab and run then looting stuff becomes too dangerous during delirium if i'm doing hard content
last river
Yeah I wish they would expand the vacuum effect to at least like
Currency
Don't care about all the rares and stuff dropping but surely it's not too stressful on preformance to add currency to the vacuum effect on delirium
exotic lake
Yep, the issue is, they put timers everywhere so people with fast clearspeed still have a challenge to face, and don't trivialize everything, but then people with normal clearspeed just can't follow that
I mean, I played a stun based ground slam build with quite low dmg in incursion and it aldready wasn't fun because of the timer
Now I wouldn't even try because I wouldn't even be able to play
I mean I could play the core game, but no optionnal content at all
tender tusk
you need fail states though
exotic lake
And the faster people go, the more they introduce timed emchanics with a ton of monsters that pop at once and oneshot, which evnetually leads to 1 second lag/freeze-oneshot
So people try to go faster to keep up the pace, and the game slowly becomes more and more braindead
And in the end it's not even fun to play anymore
I mean it is mostly click-oneshot-click-oneshot-interact with league mechanic-freeze-get oneshot-repeat
I wish there was a game wich had a deep character building as PoE, but with actual gameplay tbh
hasty perch
i just hope they optimise PoE 2 properly
tender tusk
they'll probably unspaghetti it a but if they're given the chance
exotic lake
I just hope they don't rush it like they rushed to many things before
I'd prefer it done properly, even if it has to be released a year later (even if it isn't acutally sensible business-wise unfortunately)
violet nymph
vast gazelle
...teleporting with e.g. consecrated path doesn't break grasping vines, right?
autumn dragon
hey, my delirium stopped, i mean there is no more monsters on map and my rewards dont want to come, this is bug or i need what
languid path
they already dropped when you reach each rank
eager terrace
yeah everything already dropped while you were clearing
spice cipher
ppl who ask that consistently dropped nothing of value
junior nova
If I corrupt a map with delirium modifiers on it, do any of the corruption outcomes remove the delirium mods?
warm steppe
errant compass
Do I need to do +20% Quality to get more Simulacrum splinters reward when mapping???
dusky crane
what affect does delirium influence have on the conqueror fights? more hp, more item rarity? nothing at all? unknown? Curious if it's worth rushing to them on those maps
languid path
no effect
tropic copper
yeah, need to add delirium mods first, then corrupt.
eager terrace
mmm do conquerors not have more HP under delirium?
they definitely get the delirium moves and stuff
gloomy bay
Nothing gets more HP under delirium, though some mobs get damage reduction
lethal relic
Trying to complete this league's challenges. Any recommendation on what weapon and jewel i should chance to make unique? It doesn't need to be worth anything.
fossil fable
@vast gazelle pretty sure you actually need to move to break vines vs. using movement skills
though I wouldn't be surprised if it did something like breaking one vine per cast
next epoch
@lethal relic Jewels doesn't really matter, there's plenty of uniques for all of the (non-abyssal) jewel bases
fossil fable
I feel like I have better odds of getting a unique jewel from corrupting unique jewels like the ones from acts but idk if that would count for the challenge
like Fragility or something
next epoch
I can't imagine it does. The challenge is worded as "Use Orbs of Chance..."
vast gazelle
@fossil fable ok cool im interested in trying to use natures patience with conc path
fossil fable
I guess the plus side with that is that you can just attack and not worry about moving
vast gazelle
yep
fossil fable
but then as soon as there are no more enemies you suffer
vast gazelle
yee
silk abyss
Question: Would Snipe scale the DOT on Caustic Arrow? I think so because it's derived from the power of the attack...?
simple shore
yo wtf is up with the invisible invulnareble janus if you trigger an intervention while fog is up?
vast gazelle
yes, @silk abyss as it has 120% more damage with ailments per stage. its actually the main way people play it, for bleed
silk abyss
I'm starting to think that it wouldnt work.
vast gazelle
also big fan 😄
silk abyss
< 3
vast gazelle
yeah i think not
silk abyss
Everytime I try to do something interesting with Snipe it fails. It all comes back to Puncture being the way to go.
vast gazelle
its possible elehit can be used as a bazooka but thats all i got, dang thing not working with barrage
i tried to roll snipe with galvanic arrow and got screwed because i couldnt use barrage support
silk abyss
I was really disappointed it couldnt support Vaal Burning Arrow but I should have read more carefully. Its a trigger.
vast gazelle
yep
silk abyss
Why would you need barrage support with galv?
vast gazelle
galvanic arrow has several innate projectiles and each will hit the main target if you attach barrage support
so it works out to the optimal DPS link and average hit link by far, to the point its not worth using galv arrow if you cant use barrage support
silk abyss
Why can't you use barrage support?
vast gazelle
so get this
silk abyss
Oh I see now.
vast gazelle
snipe is a channeled skill
so barrage support cant link to it
and the bow skill you put in
becomes a triggered skill
silk abyss
Same as Vaal.
vast gazelle
so barrage support does nothing 😭
silk abyss
Charged bow was the #1 thing I was looking forward to for a year.
vast gazelle
hah
silk abyss
I want a railgun
vast gazelle
yeah it was very
specific
elemental hit is probably your only chance
and i dont even know then
silk abyss
I mean, you can do burning arrow or puncture just fine but its weak flavor
vast gazelle
yeah
silk abyss
Elemental hit seems weak too
vast gazelle
bows have weak single target till you invest god tier money into them, news at 11
;.;
silk abyss
It should scale blast radius if its going to be so limited. So I can use EA.
vast gazelle
yeah i tried that too it was also garbage
its also possible 2 or 3 bow skills miiiight add up to more on paper?
but im not sure, i havent tried that theorycraft
vast gazelle
yeah
it scales more like a spell, has big bases
you can already do single target with it with frostferno so maybe assailum can be a diff playstyle
silk abyss
Is that ignite?
I definitely overlooked EH. This is interesting.
I didnt realize it did so much
Do you have a build in mind? Female toon please.
Ohhh you can roll with Scion
vast gazelle
It's hit damage
Fire is most but cold offers chill and freeze
No specific build in mind I'd look at adapting existing elehit Sciona, deadeyes, or raiders
silk abyss
Thanks for help!
silk abyss
Why wouldnt you use frostfern
vast gazelle
Assailum is a helm :P
If you just wanna elehit though go for it
It's a fun build
I did it a few leagues back
silk abyss
LOL obviously right
No im all about the snipe
Are you aware whether anything scales snipe's charge rate
cobalt falcon
Can we know where the passive located on cluster jewel
vast gazelle
Attack speed afaik @silk abyss
grand belfry
why do I -NEVER- dodge attacks from spites?
fucking EVEEERRR
good god evasion builds are trash
clear tapir
question about delirium influence on maps
if i put 100% influence with divination rewards
will it be scaled by a scarab ? is it a good idea ?
a scarab "more divination cards" ?
errant compass
Does % Map Quantity affect Delirium splinters reward? (not using Delirium orbs)
fallen terrace
how tf does ggg expect the average player to do 100% delirious maps
i did it on a t6 rare and it felt like vanilla mobs have the same hp as red map bosses
copper kernel
they probably dont
raven gorge
@fallen terrace since i started t13-14 maps i just give up on delirium mobs. Idk why but with full eternity shroud set, these mobs resist my chaos dmg. Idk how it is possible and what to do to deal them more damage. Although their hits are crazy strong. And the second thing is PC. My PC has got like 6 or 7 years. For me it's very hard to play: delirium, legion, cassia, metamorph, bestiary and Jun bandits the same time. My screen just freezes and i cannot do anything in more than 3-5 sec.
@fallen terrace maby I will buy new one, but man... These prices right now are crazy as fuck. Hope they will go down during and after the corona crisis.
vast gazelle
im pretty fine with 100% delirious being impractical just because of how much poe powercreeps
it will be doable someday if not now
frigid holly
IMO ideal design would be that you can choose to scale things (e.g. - with mechanics like multiple delerium orbs) anywhere between reasonably easy up to impossibly hard (for anyone ideally). Provided the range you can electively tune over covers whatever sweet-spot of difficult-but-not-imposible-for-you is then the game design has you covered
vast gazelle
good thing you can then 😄
frigid holly
exactly my point
vast gazelle
fallen terrace
i had a guy help me clear that map and he said he had 70ex worth of gear
raven gorge
@fallen terrace my friends are playing zombies or something like that like 3-4 leagues in a row, and they can do full content even when they are downgraded and nerfed, and i as a caster need to have 3-4 or even more times more expensive EQ to do the same thing. Thats hilarious.
bold basalt
yeah necros still busted
raven gorge
next league I will play necro as well if nothing changes.
wary smelt
eh necro isnt busted just zombies are really strong
i play spectres and spectres got nerfed for no reason just cuz zombies/skelies were really strong
storm crown
They also added new specter that greatly buff damage 😉
eager charm
specter nerfed 
slender temple
Spectres are fine
wet plaza
@eager charm add thousands seps you filthy animal
eager charm
I'll try
wet plaza
wet plaza
tawdry shell
Is there a hard cap on delirium stacks for normal maps? No juicing or anything
Like earlier I almost filled up the 5th stack on tropical island and couldn't get to 6
native sonnet
no
livid apex
the softcap just gets very difficult to reach
tawdry shell
ah
coarse flame
does precise focus from cluster gems stack if you have multiple of them?
silver kettle
yes
violet nymph
i don't think i've ever gotten to 7 in any map
juiced or not
meanwhile you could pretty easily get to 8 in pre-nerf harbour bridge
basically every time
pastel maple
Hey guys. Can anyone help me clarify if the consecrated ground from inquisitor ascendance triggers the instant you stand still, or do you need to "stay for a few secs" in order for it to trigger? I am looking to invest in the point more for a mana regen perspective, but I am not sure it's worth it. Can anyone clarify? Thanks
silver kettle
@pastel maple it's the instant you stand still
velvet palm
@pastel maple you'll get it if you use any skill that makes you stand still for even a fraction of a second
still chasm
Woah viper you work for GGG now?
low kindle
do legion jewels affect tree when socketed into cluster jewels?
or like any jewels with radius
hushed sequoia
Did the delirium stack reward ever get buffed like ggg said it should ? 90% of the time just crappy armor/weapon/jewelley
quaint magnet
it seems to rely heavily on RNG now... i sometimes get tons of loot and sometimes nothing
and splinters range from 5 to 65 so idk
native sonnet
at 3 and 5 stack of the "orignal/first" reward u get a new/additional reward type that stacks
vapid heart
Does "Weave the Arcane" work with Archmage support for spell-based movement skills? i.e. do you get the bonus damage even though the skill costs 0 mana?
storm crown
Radius is disabled in cluster jewels
frigid holly
I have not yet unlocked access to the Simalcrum, but I'm getting close. Is it worth (partially since I doubt I can finish it) running Simulcrum once I have my 300 shards, or am I better off waiting and getting further after I've progressed my gearing more. For reference I am currently L90 (SSF) but still haven't managed to get a 6 link, and have obvious gearing improvements I'll be able to make once the RNG cooperates. I can fairly comfortably run low-tier red maps with one delerium orb if I pay attention. ??
vast gazelle
@vapid heart so one of two things will happen. Either weave the arcane overrides the skill cost to 0 and archmage does nothing, or archmage sets it 6% base and weave the arcane does nothing
clear portal
is there any way to increase profits in Simulacrum?
copper kernel
no
vapid heart
@vast gazelle thanks for the response! I figured as much, but you never know where interesting interactions are hiding...
vast gazelle
Yee I had the same thought at first
jaunty wadi
Hey does anyone know a good guide for bv occ?
eager terrace
the only real change in profit from simulacrum is like getting slightly higher reward tier totals
you do actually slightly control spawn rate / total via kill speed / movement
mostly noticeable in the late waves where you may be killing noticeably slower
but I don't feel like it will impact a whole lot
outer plank
So have you guys found that just running to the deepest part of the delirium as fast as possible yields more rewards or trying to clear as much of the map as possible while staying barely ahead of the fog?
sterile shuttle
clear all the map and hit all the small pockets
past walrus
Anyone have some advice for Kosis? He literally one shots me with his teleporting attack, how do you dodge it when he teleports from off-screen :/
sterile shuttle
he tps to a giant lightning ball to explode it
past walrus
Are the map modifiers the same for every run per wave or are they random? I've only done it once.
Took ages to kill some of the blue mobs and I have ~7m dps
Wondering if it will be different the next time I run it
sterile shuttle
random every wave
strange mason
yo do you guys have any tips for killing Kosis? I get it like wave 19-20 in the sim but can never beat it because he is impossible lol i'm playing low life ED contagion with 8k es and 300kish ed
is there like a trick doing it because sometimes I cant even break his ES
and then he just nukes the whole make with his balls
past walrus
I swear they've programmed it to know what build I play and be absolute buggers about it
every time it's freaking cold res
every time
strange mason
that would actually be hella cool if they made something that changed based on your build to really test you
plain isle
so does anyone have a link with all the possible cluster jewels and things of that nature would really like to see what available
barren crescent
ED can kill wave 20 kosis
but you need Blight or soulrend as additional dps
shaper dps: 792k ED & 1.1M Blight
sullen scroll
once i 100% Delirium a Map how hard is it on a T2?
normal sigil
well
i tried 100% delirium in t7
the monsters was tankier than my t16 tower map 0%
low kindle
does the amout of delirium orbs affect how much monsters spawn?
or how fast bars fill
midnight phoenix
not that ive noticed
quasi imp
hey so i have a question, does anything in the simulcram inflict posion
vocal echo
@plain isle in PoB you can create your own, theoretically everything that's possible to make there should be possible ingame,
basically works similar to other items, you have a few basic types of what minor passives grant, then up to 4 affixes that determine additional minor passive mods, major passives, and jewel slots
worthy turtle
First time I tried 100% delirius map. t17 Summit with sextants. gilded legion, breach and metamorph. Forgot to use Alva to open... But all in all, zero deaths, and some nice loot.
3 currency, 1 divination, 1 oil delirium orbs.
hasty perch
@strange mason chaos damage bypasses energy shield
so yeah , you're not bnreaking kosis' energy shield with an ED contagion character
snow rock
What type of damage is Kosis' bubbles considered? I clip them and they continue to chip away at my health while I'm outside of them.
Absolutely isn't bleed.
I have a bleed immunity WE.
bold badge
Bruh. Currently stuck on a Delirium Primordial Blocks with 9 enemies remaining, i'm pretty sure they're just the stationary ones in boss room but idk how to kill em.
tawdry shell
Are cluster jewel notables locked behind certain rarities? Other than those specific to uniques
hasty perch
Eh good to know
Haven't played ED this league so i didn't know
For his shavs
Effect
storm crown
currently at 6 Renewal notables for my minions 😄
vocal echo
@tawdry shell as far as i know not, but they are locked to the type of cluster jewel, large jewels get different notables than medium, though some are shared
they're also locked to the type of minor passive bonus
tawdry shell
Good to know. I threw 200+ alts at a life jewel looking for fettle and was wondering if I was scamming myself
vocal echo
ye, looks like that's only on small cluster jewels that add max life on minor passives as their primary modifier
specifically the notable prefix
or megalomaniac, of course, which can get every notable passive
cursive widget
anyone know what the best build might be if you are just going to spam simulacrums/
thinking of doing like a 50-100 simulacrum experiment
dark condor
@tawdry shell https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=BaseItemTypes&an=Large+Cluster+Jewel shows the spawn weights, so this gives you an idea. With craftofexile.com you can simulate the crafting, although bad luck can always happen
normal sigil
where does doryani unique map drop?
versed dock
In Delve from the Vaal Temple boss
normal sigil
aw man that means its prob pretty rare
midnight raven
can you juice the simulacrum?
normal sigil
i dont think so
copper kernel
nope
hasty perch
100% delirium simulacrum
raven sierra
.... i just finished my delirium in the middle of an elder (or shaper?) fight when they teleport you around and lost all my loot as it's in one of the temporary teleport rooms... 😄
eager terrace
yeaaaa doesn’t work so great on elder guardians with all the phases
plus the thing you just ran into
can do them with orbs though
eager terrace
@silver kettle I typically do not ever tag but I have a question I don't think can be solved properly with in-game testing
the cold conduction notable on medium clusters uses verbiage that is different from the typical "your cold damage can shock" or "your lightning damage can chill"
does that mean that it is using a fixed function for the conditional ailments or is it still using the hit calculation / threshold of the element that caused the trigger ailment
i.e. is it always using 15% for the triggered shock and 10% for the triggered chill
silver kettle
I believe it's the former but I will just double check in game
eager terrace
how would you go about testing that in-game I couldn't think of a way to verify the magnitude of the effect
eager terrace
ah okay
sorry to bug you it just isn't described in the detail tooltip and the verbiage made me uncertain
since it still does specify hits which generally always use the threshold calcs
silver kettle
yep it uses the fixed values
eager terrace
so the standard 15% for shock and 10% for chill regardless of the hit size
silver kettle
yes
eager terrace
sweet thanks for confirming that
silver kettle
👍
eager terrace
and just for my understanding this is intended to work with totem hits right
silver kettle
should be yes
eager terrace
in this case the "your" verbiage doesn't matter
since they are just inheriting the offensive on hit
like I did verify it works currently just wanted to make sure it wasn't unintended
much appreciated for the help 👌
tawdry shell
Is there any sort of time limit in the simulacrum?
patent canyon
no
languid path
there's a timer of 30s on how long stuffs will keep spawning, so the faster you kill the more stuffs will spawn, the more reward you get
fierce osprey
Hey lads! I recently Started farming low tier maps for the delerium mechanic, however I cant seem to fo past 2 rewards. I just start the encounter, step on evey melons I see and kill everything. How do I reach those sweet lvl 6/7/8 rewards? Thanks <#
wintry apex
With just regular mapping getting to even level 5 of the first reward tier is somewhat uncommon
It depends on the map you're running as well as how juiced up your maps are: How many sextants and scarabs you're using, master missions, etc.
hushed sequoia
Only time ive gotten past 5 reward was in harbour bridge
Also 90% of reward type still worthless armor/weapon/jewelry wtf
pseudo kernel
So i used a delirium orb on a map and at the end it didnt pay out
still sitting at 5 on each reward tier
all monsters killed
what happened?
light adder
You get the rewards every time you reach a level, not at the end all
fierce osprey
@wintry apex I see, thanks for the info. So, running low tier maps aint that good no more? I used to go harbor, but it was nefted to the ground 😦
pseudo kernel
No, it was specifically stated in one of the patches that it was nerfed
they didnt want another 'Only run iceberg' leagues
like it was in legion league
quaint magnet
if you do 2 delirium orbs on a alched map with sacrifice fragments rewards usually go to 6 or sometimes 7
the more orbs u use the more rewards you get (obviously)
also alva mission for every delirium orb map you run
if you can get the blight thing from the map device aswell
breach/Legion/strongbox scarabs are pretty good too
and of course the 3rd conqueror influence that spawns 40 extra packs of mobs
as well as increased pack size mods on map and additional packs on sextants
you can beef up rewards pretty far with that
fierce osprey
@pseudo kernel @quaint magnet alright laddies, thank you for your help! 🙂
gray ravine
So id like to know right
Cluster jewels gonna go main
But delirium will go to 10% right
O we'll basically have 10% the cluster jewels we have now?
silver kettle
exactly how league content is incorporated into the core game is decided on a case-by-case basis. we haven't even made that decision yet for delirium content
gray ravine
Oh. Right then
Btw viper can i confirm whether there is a performance issue when delirium is triggered or is it all on my end?
silver kettle
I don't know sorry, I'm not involved in performance
rough radish
Discord 
silver kettle
I'm a game designer @gray ravine . So mostly the top layer of the game, stuff that directly affects gameplay. things like skill functionality and balance, how you get specific items and what they do, monster skills/behaviour/placement, and numbers on all the above. but only the ideas, refinement, final implementation and balance — all the actual programming is done by other people.
eager charm
aka he's the one you blame for the BS 1 shots
past badger
Damn you viper 
frosty basin
So there's a chance that we won't get the entire cluster jewel system? :o
I think I see a way to do that
gray ravine
He's the one we blame for heralds and auras being broken
errant compass
How to get higher reward lvl in Simulacrum?
Always take 5, rarely 6.
Clearing speed is ok, 800k DPS Arc.
(~70% cold res penetration)
barren crescent
Isn't Delirium fog supposed to stop while you are in Syndicate Laboratory?
austere anvil
only till you kill the members
barren crescent
Since the fog ended while I was on the way to the members
guess one of those fog bugs again, there seems to be something funky going on if you activate multiple fog stopping events at same time as well
hushed sequoia
Some Legion mobs affected by delirium wont die 😦
Wish fog will pause during boss arena too
quaint magnet
just use a loot filter XD
for reals tho... the legion thing kinda sucks. That said: killing the map boss in fog is the ultimate reward for normal maps. youre not supposed to easily be able to do it. ony if you have enough dps for Clearing AND single target you can. This in turn hurts your Sirus Killspeed. Its all a balance of what content you want to do and chosing the right build to do it.
simple shore
does the projectiles from winter orb function like barrage or is gmp a damage downgrade?
vast gazelle
They shotgun, yes
wet plaza
*aoe overlaps
jolly tinsel
Is it most efficient to use delirium orbs in red maps to farm currency and uniques?
barren crescent
Dancing Duo and Death Oath buffs Faust
compact junco
if purposeful worked for deaths oath i would play the shit out of it, it would be glorious
wet plaza
never like oath so duo alone is nuff
compact junco
oath is cool, but im pretty sure now it cant even map on top of not being able to boss :d
thorn parrot
does having 2 Devastator notables a waste?
compact junco
the chance should stack like with oblits, so nope
thorn parrot
is it redundant to have 2? the mobs in my maps are dying super fast already
fossil fable
@jolly tinsel it becomes a question of how well you can tank or kite the monsters and whether or not you can kill them quickly or decently. If you clear too slowly, it becomes a waste of time. Die 6 times and it's a waste of the orbs and map
errant compass
HOW TO GET LVL 7 REWARD IN SIMULACRUM?
argh
my max is ~6.8 lvl with insta 2x boss kills
if smbd can answer, then @me pls
spice cipher
pretty sure 6 is basically max
@errant compass
idk if anyone reached 7 yet but 6 is like top end , idk if enough mobs spawn in time no matter what your dps is
slender temple
Use Alva
strange mason
god I love everything about this league except for kosis. he is literally anti-fun lol I have like 940k ED dps with max spell and attack block and he is literally the only thing in this league I cant deal with. i'm about to sell all my gear and make a meta cyclone guy or something.
spice pecan
What is the best bang for buck delirium orb?
violet nymph
Ya kosis way to op. And tip top 100% delerium can only be done with hh impale cyclone as far as I'm aware
nocturne lagoon
little inlet
I am in fortification and I have the choice for +intel to Intervention, someone told me earlier it was impossible
frigid storm
Anyone know if mobs which are 100% delirious are supposed to be harder to poison? I failed simulacrum wave 20 because I couldnt maintain virulence stacks as a hoag guardian, BL-Poison-Faster Casting-Spell echo, thos are the links I used
silver kettle
if you deal really low amounts of phys/chaos damage then the damage reduction mobs get might start preventing you from poisoning at all
frigid storm
Okay, I did have a ball lightning level 1, so that could actually be the problem?
The only source of chaos damage I have is the circle of nostalgia
frigid storm
27 for now
frigid storm
Well i hit maps today, and dps isnt an issue atm, just some poison mechanic I dont get regarding 100% delirious monsters
ebon tree
Anyone have double boss simulacrum now i can buy from?
dusky urchin
Is double boss delirium actually hard?
dusky urchin
Think I got like 2.5M
solid lynx
When should you use delirium orbs? If i have 4 fine delirium orbs on a map doesn't that mean i need to earn at least 60c off it?
patent canyon
more than that if you juice the map
if you just alch, apply orbs and go you wont get half back
velvet palm
Use orbs, breach/metamorph/legion/shelder scarabs, alva mission, blight map mod and maybe sextants
little inlet
Is Visciris bugged cant kill him in underground ruin. Very annoying its leads to an awakener battle
Any way to make this bug disapear like login in login out
dusk nest
so, i spawn 2 bosses on wave 17, if my friend enter at wave 19, can he get the double bosses challenge completed guys?
scenic ridge
anyone have info on which maps in each area to favorite for best simulacrum shard returns?
gaunt badger
wth is wrong with wave 20?
I did 1-19 super easy and then suddenly stuff stops dying
copper kernel
lots of mods
gaunt badger
welp, I guess i'll ignore this
fathom shard
Figure I should check here as well, does gratuitous violence stack with devestator notable?
bright kayak
does anyone have a link to the reddit post about a Temp Void League centered around a nearly empty passive tree and cluster jewels?
eager terrace
the delirium scaling means the last couple of waves scale really hard
copper kernel
wasnt that post just a picture and a title
eager terrace
@silver kettle when you get a chance can you look this over: https://old.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/fy2jy3/tested_various_game_mechanics_cold_conduction_aoe/
you mentioned to me the other day that cold conduction should be using the 15% value for shock, but I'm more concerned that the shock is not being affected by shock effectiveness
silver kettle
As a result of that testing I did for you the other day I did find a bug in cold conduction calculation, which has already been fixed locally so I assume will be patched in next week. It's meant to be 15% and scale with shock effect, and the fix will sort that. It's currently just using stats in the wrong order. The shocked ground stuff I will double check — again it's meant to be 15% but I could easily believe it was overlooked when the switch from 20 to 15 was made. The area stuff I don't even know, that's a Mark1 question if ever I saw one
eager terrace
ah okay so it's just bugged at the moment?
I just made a video about this node so I need to clarify information for some people is all
thank you for the info though sorry to tag
velvet palm
Viper getting shit done woop woop
unique vessel
Did metamorph get added to the base game? I havent seen it
livid lake
yes
unique vessel
Weird
Did they change when it appeared? Im in act two and all ive seen are delirium nodes in the word
Or did they add it to standard
patent canyon
its in the core game but i think its in maps only
unique vessel
Ah
errant compass
hA
spice hazel
Okay, first delirium map. I've fully cleared it, 0 mobs remaining including boss. Got credit for completing a map under one orb, too. But I still have the progress bars at the bottom left of my screen?
Didn't get the expected loot-splosion of finishing it, either. What am I supposed to do here?
frigid holly
So, I have 300 simulacrum splinters - how do I use them? Tried map dvice but that's not it...?
I guess the question is how to combine them?
oh - only works in inventory, not stash. That's dumb
dark condor
You can stack them further this way, so they use only one slot instead of two or more (depending on whether they stack)
slender temple
@frigid holly it's for stacking 5000 shards which takes less space than the simu orbs
versed marlin
You can combine them in regular stash tabs also
golden gyro
So what is the best optimal way to do delirium.encouters
patent canyon
kill monster fast
mystic cargo
I guess I gotta just run a delirium and see if if my build can handle it lol
storm crown
Best strat kill monsters fast 😆
hasty perch
don't loot and play something always moving
the danger in delirium is mainly those BS exploding untargetable stuff tbh
gritty lantern
Is it a known bug that delirium spawn blobs deal damage on some maps? Haven't figured out which map mod that does it but some maps I lose 1/4 of my hp every time I step on a spawn blob
both the red and the gray ones
These are the map mods of one of the maps where the blobs dealt damage every time I stepped on them.
Okay I've tried every map mod by itself and none of those maps made me take damage from the blobs. Have no idea what causes this but it can't be intentional right?
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/589402793 video proof of it happening
pliant temple
Do I need to have jeweler reward type in Simulacrum in order to get the chance for Voices drop?
velvet palm
Wasn't that a boss drop
eager terrace
it's increased area
that makes the delirium spores deal damage
I don't know why
without increased area even running right through the middle of one does not cause a hit
but with increased area all the ones that spawn monsters also deal an area hit
fossil fable
lmfao what if it's cause they have 0% AoE but then the Increased Area mod actually give it an AoE percentage
eager terrace
well, I'm not sure why there is an effect that deals damage attached to the prop at all
like it's possible that they were meant to deal damage in the first place but have an incorrect radius by default
or it could just be an unintended side effect of how they were built to achieve the main effect when stepped on
maybe originally they were meant to deal damage but decided against it in playtesting, but didn't change them in a way that prevented this interaction
doesn't matter a whole lot either way really, but that is the current state
if you roll increased area on a map just be careful about running through too many spores at once
fossil fable
is it a significant amount of damage? haven't noticed it myself
eager terrace
relative to the build I'm sure
I haven't really paid attention if that hit is affected by other map mods either
candid bone
Is there any quick tips for delirium? this is my first ever playthrough of PoE
But I seem to be really close to 5 stacks every time
fossil fable
don't stop moving, or at least be very conservative with your stops
during the fog of course
coarse moon
anyone have a concrete explanation on how the notables on a large jewl are placed? been trying to figure out what determines what notable ends up between the sockets
quaint magnet
@eager terrace im guessing they are coded as traps with a "summon monster" effect attached to it
which could explain why they do dmg with increased AoE
open junco
guys how the hell do you drop more than 10 splinters a map? I'm doing red maps up to t16 and haven't dropped more than 9
open junco
wtf
open junco
even tried making a public group with 6 others and still 6 average
storm veldt
half map cleared no boss
open junco
ngl stuff like this makes me really not want to play sometimes
wet plaza
run maps whose boss is a long way from the start
trop island for example
also kill the boss in time, without the boss splinters barely drop
open junco
so the best tactic is to just run for the boss?
left onyx
Gotta kill on the way there
Just bumrushing a boss will net you even less than failing to reach him in time, by far.
left onyx
Did some toxic sewers on my new char, got 9-12 4 maps in a row with just alching the map. I know it's kiddie numbers compared to juiced up maps but as long as you don't run into a big dead end it's real quick and easy with incredibly dense packs due to the tight areas ^
novel light
what are the recommended maps for good splinter farming? i saw one guide saw T16 Tower but I felt like I wasnt getting much (less than 15) despite usually getting almost to the boss and 5 stcks
violet nymph
if there's anything good about this league
it's that my mechanics have gotten way better lol
have to pay attention and dodge shit literally every second
rustic ocean
@violet nymph so true. It's my first league to kill elder/Sirius/all guardians deathless. It's practice reacting to audio and visual cues from delirium.
violet nymph
problem is that ggg thinks they should be balancing for the top players
and uh
more people are becoming top players
rustic ocean
They need to realize that streamers have guilds/get donations to hear quickly. 25 exalt bottled faith purchases are child's play to them, so balancing around those buffs and items leaves low gear players in a rut.
violet nymph
there's no such thing as balance when there are builds that at the same level of investment can do 50 million damage and 1 million damage
referring to storm brand and spectral shield throw in this context
rustic ocean
A lot of the problems stem from their lack of theory crafting before a release.
Within two days of the notables being released publicly, half a dozen high tier players already knew the cluster jewels would break that skill.
hasty perch
i think the mechanic is bad tbh
I don't think putting like 99% of the danger in a league mechanic in untargetable invincible exploding post death shit is a good solution to deal with people having more and more dps
also it makes looting obnoxious , either you take a huge risk to grab your alch/chaos or 6S
or you backtrack later
that's just not fun
like pretty much every death I have lately is me trying to grab a chaos or a 6S because I don't want to backtrack the whole map later
silver kettle
@eager terrace I had a look at shocked ground magnitudes. the shocked ground map mod doesn't actually apply shock to monsters, only the player and allies. that said, it does cause stronger shocks than 15%, ranging from 20-60% with map tier. I had no idea about that, so that could probably be made more clear — will discuss with Mark1. I double-checked Ylfeban's Trickery and Vaal Lightning Trap (only ways player can create shocked ground off the top of my head), they're both correctly applying 15%. the non-15% magnitudes are specific to the map mod.
eager terrace
oh interesting, yeah I bet players assume shocked ground is the same magnitude across tiers
without wanting to make you go test more stuff, do you think chilled ground works the same way?
let me know if you would prefer to post in that thread yourself, or I will just share your findings there
silver kettle
the chilled ground one does work the same way
I don't actually have to test anything, it's all spelled out in the stat values on the mods. just wanted to be sure via testing
you are welcome to post about this in the thread. I can't make reddit posts without Bex approval and it's a public holiday atm
eager terrace
I wonder if the shock merits change, that's a pretty high mag shock
given the incoming damage is going to scale with tier anyway
fossil fable
if it's been that way this whole time, maybe not change but just clarity. At least, since we've been playing around that this entire time without realizing it idk
I wouldn't mind it being scaled down though don't get me wrong lol
eager terrace
yeah, there is a fair amount of counterplay as well
fossil fable
lol just don't stand in it
eager terrace
but 60% shock mag is kind of /whistle
fossil fable
yeah for sure
zenith bolt
hmm, is there any way to resist the effect of the delirum slowing hands patches? i think they're called time warp or temporal warp or something like that
eager terrace
you should be able to use kaom's roots or juggernaut's unstoppable to prevent it from slowing you beyond base
well, in theory I guess I haven't tested myself
zenith bolt
yeah, i guessed that those might work, was hoping there was an option that didn't lock up a boots slot
i don't think it's another flavor of hinder, but maybe I'll test that out
eager terrace
it's definitely an action speed slow
whenever I don't see I've flame dashed into one and go to summon a new totem set the totem placement speed is glacial
fossil fable
same goes for flame dash
takes almost a full second to do a followup flame dash if I notice I'm in one
zenith bolt
it's definitely accounting for the majority of my deaths at this point if it overlaps with something else nasty
yeah, I'm using leap slam for movement, and it can lead to some hillariously long hang times
hoary snow
I do wish leap slam had invulnerability frames or got you out of melee/projectiles fully
then the hang time wouldn't be a penalty in the same way
compact junco
frostblink is always an option, its instant and teleports you, so you can simply teleport away
pearl fossil
limited charges
cunning grotto
im new and just finished act 2, do you guys run around and gather the delirum mobs or kill them one pack at a time ?
I get discourged because i can only manage 2 - 4 stage of item rewards before the fog disappears
rough radish
I usually just plow through if im doing deli run on acts
You don’t really have to run delirium during Acts. You can do it once you get a good gear to survive the run
Maybe you can do it when you reach Blood Aqueduct in Act 9
quartz wraith
Or whichever area level where exalts drop
violet nymph
that's 35+, which is only act 4
don't do delirium unless it doesn't impact the speed you get through acts
e.g. you're playing hollow palm for leveling and oneshot everything
dreamy carbon
for everything great about this league, the Delirium mechanic is pretty rough while leveling especially for your first character of a league
gray niche
I didn't think so, but I've been playing a while.
Although I don't do much league mechanics while leveling my first build until I get to maps. I did more delirium than other leagues though.
vast gazelle
@cunning grotto getting to or past 5 is pretty rare so it sounds like youre doing fine
errant compass
QUESTION!
Do Deli orbs (cards/jewels) give items on reaching new map lvl reward, that can be map-specific items?
e.g. I use div deli orb on burial chambers map, then can new lvl reward drop HH or HH card?
copper kernel
HH is not map specific to anything
errant compass
yep, not HH
copper kernel
card orbs can drop anything
errant compass
I mean cards
copper kernel
the map theyre attached to wont matter
tawdry shell
just ripped 6 portals to wave 20 kosis geeegeeeee
does wave 20 have a crazy modifier that doesnt show up in tab?
prime hollow
100% delrous is like -95% damage taken + deal 30% more damage dealt or something insane
tawdry shell
so 95% is like -70% or something?
Because I was chillinh up until I got my ass handed to me by like 8 normal mobs
prime hollow
I dont know the exact numbers but the closer you get to -100 the more insane it feels, From 90% less damage to 95% less damage basicly halfs your damage
Why wave 20 feels so rough
prime hollow
Yea, itrs generic damage reduction as far as im aware, that also makes leech feel shitty too
simple shore
does the cold snap spellslinger bug work with barrage support or only barrage gem?
gray zealot
whats that bug?
oh u can skip spellslinger cd with coldsnap frenzy charges
you could probs do it even easierwith power siphon and the threshold jewel for cold snap
i think ill try it out when i get my hands on astral projector
might even do 2 spellslingers, one for discharge and another for cold snap
torpid sonnet
It does work with barrage support (but you get less triggers per second than with the barrage gem)
However it's going to be patched soon
eager terrace
if it gets fixed to behave like it does with CoC
does that mean it'll never consume frenzies
simple shore
Well the patch notes doesnt mention itnyet
And ppl also said they were going to fix the barrage triggering poets pen faster bug
But a whole league later it's still here
worn lance
What determines whether the delerium encounter will drop uniques or currency
vast gazelle
They explicitly stated a hotfix is incoming for the cold snap interaction
raw locust
Does anyone know if IIQ affects simu splinter drops? Surprised i couldn't find an answer with a quick google.
silver kettle
@raw locust it does not (neither map IIQ nor player IIQ)
raw locust
Thank you!
vast gazelle
Interesting 👀
silver kettle
There's a detailed post by Jatin on the forums a few days ago if you want to read more on what affects them
raw locust
Oh, good to know. I'll look it up when the forums come back up.
eager charm
site is down
raw locust
The deeper in the Fog you are, the higher the chance of Splinters dropping, this is intended and vaguely mentioned in both the Delirium Trailer and 3.10.0 Patch Notes.
Quantity on Maps and Quantity from Player's also don't increase Splinter drops.
Splinter drops are independent of the 5/3/1 reward stacks that you get.
Splinter drops take the following into account:
- Map Tier (the higher the Map Tier, the better)
- Depth (The deeper in the Fog you are, the higher the chance of monsters dropping splinters)
- Pack Size (More monsters results in more Splinters)
storm crown
all the new specters has really made the game so great 😄
ancient kraken
wondering did any1 tried to delirous a blighted map? since the mob keep coming, the reward should be able to stack?
blissful silo
you can't orb blighted maps
thorny shale
what was hysteriagate's layout prior to the change?
violet nymph
Delirium league explode my pc :c
past badger
My pc is fine......until legion inside delirium map, then rip
frigid holly
Pure speculation question - how do you think they will maintain a reasonable drop rate of cluster jewels in post-Delerium leagues? If they make delerium (the mechanic) core in the same way as many previous league mechanics you'd only get to run them maybe an 8th as often, so it seems to me that they'd need to make the cluster jewels either high probability drops (perhaps from the mechanic reward itself?) like they did with Cassia oils (which are now guaranteed from successful Cassia encounters [or a blighted map]), or they'd have to add them onto other drop tables...
@ancient kraken Delerium metamorph is in-principal an infinite monster count vai the metamorph adds provided you don't kill the metamorph itself
wet plaza
imo delirium brings nothing to the table besides simul and even that isnt great, they should let the jewels just drop in the base game
frigid holly
@storm crown which new spectres in particular are you finding useful?
storm crown
@frigid holly they of thul gives 20% dodge and 15% damage reduction while standing in the blizzard. Arena master massive attackspeed, movement speed and damage shout for 4 sec 12 sec vd. Sin master casts a super strong assassins mark, baraninte cleric gives a 20extra damage as lightning and 10% to shock
violet nymph
wth 6 splinters from an entire map in delrium reaching reward tier 6?! anyone else noticing less splintes?
wet plaza
the further away you're from the entrance the more splinters you get, mostly from killing the boss
violet nymph
reaching reward tier 6 i've pretty much killed everything but 40 mobs in the entire map
wet plaza
doesnt say much about distance to the start and boss kill y/n
violet nymph
I guess the Sepulchre map is poor for splinters. Thanks
frigid holly
@storm crown Thanks for the details. Been wondering what to use for my third spectre (in an animate wepons build where I'm using the spectres for utility, so my first two were Stygian chieften (freny) and the other ape whose name I fogret for power charges. Up til now I just added a second Frenzy-dude as backup, but the arena master sound slike the way to go
storm crown
im running 6 specters atm
as i have a budget weapon atm
for my zombie build im running
frigid holly
arena master also looks like he'll be pretty robust (400% life)
storm crown
1 power monkey,
1 frenzy monkey
1 sin master
1 arena master
1 they of tul
1 Baranite cleric
frigid holly
nice
storm crown
if yuo actually run cluster jewels your minions should rarely die
silver kettle
damn you really are making the most of the new stuff
storm crown
i have gained like 600k damage per zmobie cos of the new specters 😄
drowsy grove
why is it if I kill a bunch of stuff in the fog, sometimes nothing still drops?
turbid coral
does the fog go in a certain direction you're facing when you activate mirror or is it random?
terse vapor
I think it's a ring radiating away from the mirror. I would also like to know this, though. The fact that the mirror rotates suggests to me that it does have a direction
I'm also curious how maps with multiple levels (like the tower map) interact with fog depth.
slender temple
@terse vapornot well and the way it spreads is annoying
terse vapor
the fact that there isn't at least a depth meter alongside the rewards meters is very silly
next epoch
@terse vapor The fog spreads out from the mirror in a circular wave
The way this interacts with split areas is a little inconsistent. I feel like the game generally tries to make the fog stay at a consistent level when you pass through transitions, but sometimes it doesn't work quite right. For example, I've seen some complaints about the fog abruptly ending in the middle of the Burial Chambers cave
brave pulsar
your item filter might also be hiding shit drops
weary frost
Should I pick up red pustules that generate flying red bomb?
rough radish
No
Those red thing confirmed will spawn homing bombs
Try to avoid triggering them as much as u can
past badger
Nasty buggers those
gray zealot
just walk away like lmao dont get hit
fathom shard
anyone know how the tentacle whips on mark of the elder look like
is it a white animation?
hasty perch
gray , like the elder stuff
fathom shard
hm
ill have to test when i get home without my heralds on or something and a simple skill
main nymph
ah yes the triple encounter mechanic
crystal panther
do we know what stops delirium fog?
as in what league mechanics
does harbinger stop it? abyss?
legion?
main nymph
none stop it from what I've seen
it stops by itself after some time or if you backtrack a lot
I could be wrong tho that's from what I've seen
vast gazelle
They explicitly added it stopping for many previous league mechanics
Check patch notes for patches since release it's detailed there
spice cipher
blights, breach (while inside), legion, and some others but those are the big ones you wanna chain
vast gazelle
Strongboxes are good too, I think the fog stops but even if it doesnt, it's free real estate packs
simple shore
legion and abyss stops it from moving but the abyss crack can still move outside of the area which will start the countdown
granite rampart
anyone know if "Lead By Example" (4% additional Physical Damage Reduction if you've Warcried in the past 8 seconds
4% chance to deal Double Damage if you've Warcried in the past 8 seconds) is scaled by warcry buff effect ?
ember hill
no
those aren't war cry buffs
they are just buffs you get if you warcried in the past 8 seconds
mild aurora
anyone know if div card deliriums consider the weight of zone specific div drops?
storm crown
Hate delirium combined with Jun missions no time to select options
And probly Will die If doing it
pliant temple
Does it matter how fast I kill monsters in Simulacrum? The faster you kill the more stacks?
past badger
Yes. And further from mirror also better
haughty fjord
is it possible to unstack for ex. 10 chaos like in minecraft? so You just hold left click and hover over empty spaces?
that'd be cool right?
vast gazelle
you can split stacks of chaos o.o
midnight moon
Arkoler was asking about a particular mechanic for splitting stacks of items that exists in Minecraft. I'm uncertain why it was asked in the Delirium channel.
gray moth
hey what determines how long delirium lasts for?
I'm new to the game and am a nob
noob
maybe a bit of a nob too
midnight moon
When you step through the mirror a fog spreads out in a circle from that point to the ends of the map. After a few seconds the fog starts dissipating in another growing circle from there. If you want to stay in it, you need to move away from there.
midnight moon
It's not a path per se. But generally if you head toward the area's exit you will stay in the fog longer because the mirrors always spawn near the entrance to the area.
There are a few other things that can make it last longer, but if you're new to the game you don't need to worry about them for now.
gray moth
okok thanks for the useful info
tough steppe
It flows out in an expanding circle from the mirror point until it fills the map, then from that same point it also dissappears from in another circle. Some maps are better than others for it. zones that are long lines are best.
limpid wigeon
what is the highest pdps weapon in the game right now? In theory it caps out at around 1100ish right?
i just wanna know how close people have gotten to the theoretical max
wrong channel whoops
supple heath
Is there a way to predict when a delirium spawns enemies that can potentially 1 shot? Ive gotten up to t7 and the explosions, even when stacked deal almost no damage. Have heard complaints about looting killing people though.
Im fairly new to the mechanic so It might be a stupid question
vast gazelle
has more to do with the damage mods on the map than anything
vast berry
viper can we get lightning strike to be a pregular projectile rather than a ground projectile
it has made me upset that i cant use this skill
its a big sad
silver kettle
it's on my list of things to discuss at some point
but no guarantees on timing or whether it will happen at all
silver kettle
I agree
vast berry
was all hype to try it
gues ill go frost blades?
thanks for the quick reply. wasnt expecting that at all 🙂
junior verge
what are all the things on the ground? like you run over them and they disappear, what do each of them do?
next epoch
The white blobs turn into monsters you can kill; the red blobs turn into non-targetable things that run at you and blow up. I'm not sure anyone is certain about the other stuff
quasi summit
can ask for splinter count is base on?
sometime without juice i can get better than juiced. so i really not sure how to get more
silver kettle
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2817318/page/5#p23097138
The deeper in the Fog you are, the higher the chance of Splinters dropping, this is intended and vaguely mentioned in both the Delirium Trailer and 3.10.0 Patch Notes.
Quantity on Maps and Quantity from Player's also don't increase Splinter drops.
Splinter drops are independent of the 5/3/1 reward stacks that you get.
Splinter drops take the following into account:
- Map Tier (the higher the Map Tier, the better)
- Depth (The deeper in the Fog you are, the higher the chance of monsters dropping splinters)
- Pack Size (More monsters results in more Splinters)
@quasi summit
next epoch
Quantity on maps is affected by chisels as well as by the mods on the map. Quantity on player is based on gear (mostly unique items) which grants increased item quantity. But that's all besides the point because none of that gives you additional splinters
violet nymph
i don't like that the league's difficulty is based entirely around map layouts
undone marten
when running delirious maps with multiple orbs do you benefit more if level of the map is higher?
light mantle
anyone have a link to a syndicate infographic for this league?
violet nymph
@undone marten you benefit entirely from pack size
which technically rolls higher on higher tier maps
and higher tier maps drop more splinters
frigid holly
Radius-effect jewels socketed in a cluster jewel have their raidus effects ignored. So does that mean I can socket a 'Quickening covenant' (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quickening_Covenant) in a cluster jewel and get all the benefits with no downside?
silver kettle
yup @frigid holly
frigid holly
nice!
gentle berry
whats the debuff icon that has a clock hand thats kind of purple? and can i build against it? i have an insanely well optimized build and that one freaking mechanic is 99% of my deaths and its really starting to piss me off.
eager charm
?
icy falcon
Does quantity increase works on splinters? Is it worth to make a MF character for Splinters?
vast gazelle
It's the grasping zombie hands ground from delirium iirc @gentle berry
The only thing I can think of to build against it is kaoms roots
gentle berry
so lame.
@vast gazelle thanks for the info though. that kind of stuff is triggering af
midnight phoenix
u can save ur blink skill
if u arent in recovery then blinking off the temp chains ground is instant
gentle berry
it wont allow me too usually. it freezes me for a second or two whether i press flame dash once or a dozen times. ive also tried predictive and lockstep.
i also have phasing so its not a body block
frosty basin
How hard is a T16 rare map with 100% Delirium?
I tried one and it was going really slowly because my DPS wasn't high enough.
Is it harder than basically all other content? Is it harder than Simulacrum?
(And none of the map mods increased monster durability!)
eager terrace
yeah definitely a step up from simulacrum
dusky urchin
I did my t16 with full delirium by running past everything and just killing the boss
Boss is easier than the packs
dusty umbra
dusky urchin
Whats with Kosis wave 20 btw, I did one simulacrum and killed him easy, then another wave 20 he one shot my tank build with every ability.
compact junco
if you dont have chaos res the chaos ones are especially deadly
worldly scaffold
vast gazelle
same
sharp veldt
How do people even get so many damn Splinters in a single map
The most I've been able to get is 20-something from T14 Tropical Island or T15 Lair
I can't find a good T16 map that drops more Splinters than the other 2
So far tried Malformation, Promenade and Tower, none of them gained as many Splinters on average as T14 Tropical Island and T15 Lair.
ember hill
canyon
juice your maps
4 scarabs + sextants
maybe even zana mod
kill the boss
i can reliably get 30+ splinters from lair
at least
sharp veldt
Did they nerf the drop rates
Cause Daykun got around 50-60 per map without juicing his maps
Also what Scarabs
Rusted Legion, Rusted Breach? What else
I also do Beyond for Zana mod if I'm juicing
midnight phoenix
U can reliably get 40-50 splinters from alch and go ramparts with 0 mechanics
If u really want a lot of splinters then alva is pretty important as well
The best zana mod for splinters is cassia
sharp veldt
For some reason I hate doing Blight
I skipped that League so idk if the monsters take less damage from non-towers
@midnight phoenix Ramparts vs Tropical Island, idk which is better
midnight phoenix
Trop is better if u are putting mechanics on it
Like alva, cassia, breach, legion
Rampart spawns all the mechanics at the beginning in shallow fog so u get less splinters
What u want is mechanics and mob density in deep fog
sharp veldt
@midnight phoenix Would ChisAlcVaal Tropical Island/Lair/Malformation(?) or Promenade with Beyond work for the time being?
I initially planned to just farm T16 Summit with Legion and Breach.
Then again dunno the Splinter count of Summit
midnight phoenix
I havent tried malformation much, it seemed okay
I know empy used it for his big juice run
Summit layout isnt great for splinters
U want long maps
Not wide maps
The deeper u are in fog and more mobs u clear while deep in fog = more splinters
Summit is wide map with phased boss
Both things are shit
sharp veldt
I guess I'll... alternate?
Idk
I had 3 farming methods in mind this League
Betrayal, but Pariah farming is ruined
T16 Summit Breach+Legion
And Splinter farming which I for the life of me don't get
I'm looking at Daykun's suggestions since I don't wanna invest too much
I barely have enough to fund my build
I just got done crafting a pair of 12 Ex boots
midnight phoenix
U can just pick a different map
With breach legion
Underground river and promenade are the go-to t16s
I prefer promenade with legion since it's a wider map
elfin vapor
How to maximise splinter return
cursive edge
wat if they made it so the entire game was 100% delirious with all mods
unkempt dome
lair is the best imo but I like malformation more. I clear malformation easier with my cyclone
I get 30-35 just using chisel and alch. with beyond easy to get 45+ but paying 5c for 10 more splinters(4~c) is not logic
worthy turtle
chain running the simulacrum is pretty damn draining.
managed to run 38, and have 50 left over 😦 think I'll cut my profit here and sell the 50
cursive widget
lol yeah I bought like 50-60 and ran like 20 and sold the rest
not sure which is worse, farming simulacrum or farming burials
open ferry
meh
the worst part about simulacrum is
no extra rewards for more people
and it stops just when it gets fun
radiant venture
runs out too fast on most maps
sharp veldt
This feels so wrong
T14 Tropical Island, ChisAlcVaal'd with 4 Awakened Sextants. 2 Breach Encounters, 1 Legion Encounter, with Jun mission. Did a full-clear, stepped on most cocoons and killed the boss at the end.
I got like 21 Splinters
Wow. Even worse.
T15 Lair, same ChisAlcVaal 4 Awakened Sextants, Breach Scarab, Legion Scarab, Ambush Scarab. Sac Frag. Alva. Beyond Zana Mod.
2 Splinters.
Thanks game.
sharp veldt
127% Quant
Btw the map was Redeemer Influenced so it had extra mobs
All my Sextants spawned extra packs
And I got 2 fucking Splinters.
I'm just convinced the game hates me at this point
I think Splinter farming isn't my thing.
I wish I was lying about what happened.
If I was I wouldn't be so fucking mad rn.
violet nymph
if you want lots of splinters you need lots of unique mobs
the people getting over a hundred splinters per map are doing shit like proccing and reapplying multiple prophecies per map @sharp veldt
sharp veldt
@violet nymph I just want to consistently have 30 Splinters per map
Do Beyond bosses give more Splinters?
violet nymph
i think so
left onyx
Last map I did I nust've killed 15-16 beyond bosses. Don't think I had a single splinter drop from em.