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wispy crest Mar 12, 2020, 6:11 PM

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If blade blast can detonate 50 blades at a time, can you have fast enough cast speed to detonate all 50 and have 1000% more AoE ?

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Since it is 20% More AoE per blade vortex blade detonated

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I really doubt it's possible to get that much cast speed

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Since the blades explode at the same time or close to it

torpid sonnet Mar 12, 2020, 6:43 PM

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it can detonate blades from your totems bv though

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so if you have 5 full charged bv totems you could get your 1000% more AoE

frigid holly Mar 12, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Referring up to a previous post - I don't see how you could use spellslinger for single and kinetic bolt for AoE, since whenever you use KB (a wand attack) it will necessarily trigger the spellslinger stup won't it? So you would be automatically forced to use your single target as you clear using your AoE (at large and probably unsustainable mana cost)

torpid sonnet Mar 12, 2020, 6:46 PM

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spellslinger reserves mana, it doesnt have a manacost for using it

frigid holly Mar 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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oh ok. Hmm - in that case maybe its abusable to cst something that would normally be prohibitive in mana cost using a cheap trigger (at the cost of a reservation). That sounds like it could potemntially be broken too

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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reserves insane amount of mana for 6L

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god my shock nova meme setup is 66% by itself

torpid sonnet Mar 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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yeah spellslinger is the opposite of abusable

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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what item categories can I get cooldown reduction mod again?

torpid sonnet Mar 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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belt and boots

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iirc thats it, CDR is pretty hard to get

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:49 PM

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hmm

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so what 20%+15% with shaper/crusader belt and 19% on a level 20 gem is 54% and that'd be ... 0.32 ish?

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oh god thats just worse than CoC at that rate

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:53 PM

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the problem is CDR doesn't matter

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because even if you do get 50% cdr

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it would apply to CoC too

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so it's still 3 times more CD

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which sucks

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:54 PM

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if anything, I guess we can just use both.

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:54 PM

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yep

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that's probably the most efficient way to use it

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if you play assassin with power charge stacking you can use PCoC as a damage support and probably manage like 50/60% mana for a 6L spellslinger

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which would probably at least be competitive

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with an aura

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:56 PM

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well at least spellslinger has benefit of adding wand base damage... maybe crafting a dumb tri ele wand would work...

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:56 PM

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maybe better than an aura even

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like using a CoC with GMP for map clear and a 6L slower proj BL spellslinger

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:57 PM

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hmm..

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:57 PM

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or rather the other way around

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the slower proj BL on CoC because it'll deal more

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and have the aoe on spellslinger

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:57 PM

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I mean you're using a wand.

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:57 PM

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which will also allow you to not target stuff for your AoE skill

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

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so 6L setup should be CoC

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

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yes

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

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and maybe have some dumb two 4L spellslinger stuff?

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

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but the spellslinger can be 6L in helmet

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

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ah, yeah thats true

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

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with shaper mods and essence

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it's kinda better

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because the 30% more elem damage for socketed gems of essence has no mana multiplier

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so you pay a 5L

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even less with PCoC

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 6:59 PM

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hmm, so it'd be relatively 40-50% reservation then

hasty perch Mar 12, 2020, 6:59 PM

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it could be interesting

minor jungle Mar 12, 2020, 7:01 PM

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god where do wanders get accuracy

low kindle Mar 12, 2020, 7:10 PM

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precision

fallen river Mar 12, 2020, 7:36 PM

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^

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even without it I had 94% chance to hit as shadow though

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dipped into accuracy nodes though

sharp iron Mar 12, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Can someone explain to me which of the Impale notables are great and why they are so good? I've seen people say they're better for Impale builds then Molton One's Mark is for Righteous fire builts, and I just don't know the math behind Impale

cursive widget Mar 12, 2020, 8:22 PM

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wtf at this new unique helm

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@sharp iron you basically just want impale effect and 100% chance to impale on it

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:23 PM

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that helm seems neat

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kinda a ELE sourge arrow

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playstyle

silver kettle Mar 12, 2020, 8:24 PM

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can confirm, is neat

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fun to play around with

sharp iron Mar 12, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Since it grants a level 20 skill, that means you won't be allowed to obtain it until about the time you are using level 20 gems.

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:24 PM

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basically seems just like ele scoureg arrow

silver kettle Mar 12, 2020, 8:24 PM

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another thing that needs a spreadsheet 😄

cursive widget Mar 12, 2020, 8:24 PM

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impale does 10% of your regular damage per stack, and you can get up to 5 stacks of impale aka 50% more damage, but increased impale effect increases the effect of impale, so you instead of doing 50% more damage, you can do 100% more damage etc etc

sharp iron Mar 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I don't know of a game that encourages making spreadsheets to figure things out more than Path of Exile

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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eve online

sharp iron Mar 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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You might be right with that

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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theorycrafting is as old as gaming itself

cursive widget Mar 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I must admit PoE is one of those games than the more you know about it the more you should just not talk about it to the outside world lmao

sharp iron Mar 12, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I've seen images of the eldritch horror that is that game's GUI

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:26 PM

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i played it for years

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lmao

sharp iron Mar 12, 2020, 8:26 PM

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The image I saw of EVE had the text "You failed to target nothing" within the madness of it, and that was what broke me.

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Snipe puncture? whatYouDidThere

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:27 PM

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wait

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hold on

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if you only socket 1 bow skill

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can you just scale it to hit REALLY hard with one shot?

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Seems to be the case

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:28 PM

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ok so that is less like scourge arrow then

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so yeah puncture

strange bough Mar 12, 2020, 8:29 PM

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How about multiple of same skill?

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:29 PM

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that never works

crimson basin Mar 12, 2020, 8:29 PM

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also can anyone gimme a sumary of delirium cuz ngl i dont get it?

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i fail to see the contents

sharp iron Mar 12, 2020, 8:30 PM

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It doesn't specify it has to be a bow channeling skill for its bottom two stats. So if you really wanted to you could give Bladeflurry some more dodge chance. Obviously not viable, but it will let you.

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Or channeling spells.

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I wonder if it boosts global damage of the skill

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Charged up caustic arrow sounds pretty good

wintry apex Mar 12, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Yeah. Caustic Arrow has got to be the most damage you can get out of a single non-channelled bow skill use, right?

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 8:42 PM

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How's this tree for impale dom blow HoP champion?

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Got a bunch of points left over for cluster jewels

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The idea here is to get 2 of the minion impale notables so that all of us have 100% impale

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:45 PM

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you dont have even remotely enough life

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Yeah that seems to be a slight problem

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:45 PM

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thats like what

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100% increased

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Forgot 2 points

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It's 95% templarLul

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:47 PM

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damn i was close

wet plaza Mar 12, 2020, 8:47 PM

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if youre a champ why use both impale clusters

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also why scale both

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you most definitely dont want to scale your hit

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just not really efficient

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Forgot the banner adds 20%

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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placing the banner increases it as well

vast berry Mar 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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never rely on that

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 8:53 PM

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i used it on metas and bosses

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cos you get a buffed forti

tired wasp Mar 12, 2020, 8:53 PM

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yeah banner placing works for bosses pretty well

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also works decently well for delve encounters

vast gazelle Mar 12, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I'm glad snipe is in

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I was sad when ele scourge arrow got gutted

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 9:08 PM

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im looking forward for the doublebanner chest

last river Mar 12, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Think assailum will ever be worth it? I know we don't know the real numbers but those stage multipliers are gonna have to be MEATY for the thing to be worth using.

vast gazelle Mar 12, 2020, 9:15 PM

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It's 100% dependent on the numbers

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If the damage numbers are good someone will use it as an ele scourge arrow replacement

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If they're less good, maybe it'll find niche use to apply debuff bow skills in the future

lusty flume Mar 12, 2020, 9:35 PM

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What Spanish time does the new league start? Thank you

silver kettle Mar 12, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@lusty flume https://www.pathofexile.com/ - the league starts when the countdown reaches 0

lusty flume Mar 12, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Yes thx really 8 pm

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@silver kettle do you have any idea how many blades bladefall creates? 🤔

silver kettle Mar 12, 2020, 9:44 PM

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1 per wave, so 5 by default. If triggered, randomly either 2 or 3

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 9:45 PM

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🤔 thanks

deft girder Mar 12, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Tr snipe. beastWokeBestiary

lucid stone Mar 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Ooh

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Let's release a cool bow skill after bow league

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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wonder how the animate weapon scales

lucid stone Mar 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Does snipe work with ballista

storm crown Mar 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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is that unsupportet bow skill?

lucid stone Mar 12, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Non-channeling bow skill supported by ballista

vast gazelle Mar 12, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I doubt it

lucid stone Mar 12, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I dunno which skill I would use

vast gazelle Mar 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I'm leaning towards LA or split arrow

dusky cobalt Mar 12, 2020, 10:17 PM

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any good spell-casting builds this league?

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i'm open to anything except arc

patent canyon Mar 12, 2020, 10:18 PM

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ball lightning mines

dusky cobalt Mar 12, 2020, 10:18 PM

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mines

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...

patent canyon Mar 12, 2020, 10:18 PM

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you asked for good

dark condor Mar 12, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I've read Cont/ED several times already, the damage wasn't nerfed since Legion iirc, only the range. Personally I'm going to try Soulrend again. With the unleash buff it should be buffed sightly

dusty cove Mar 12, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Think bleed glad bow meme will work? 😛

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tempted to try for the maim and knock back keystone jewel and play rearguard glad

torn isle Mar 12, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Cannot trigger totem skills so no snipe wouldn't work with ballista.

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snipe probably would work very well for bleed builds though.

terse sinew Mar 12, 2020, 10:30 PM

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The radius nerfed really hurt contagion but the dps is still solid

lucid stone Mar 12, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Does it work with vaal skills?

celest atlas Mar 12, 2020, 10:31 PM

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any easy/short answer to which is propably a good way to go for this league ?? i missed one league any already some many things have changed got nerved and so on

lucid stone Mar 12, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Cause snipe vaal burning arrow might be chunky

torn isle Mar 12, 2020, 10:32 PM

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cannot trigger vaal skills either so no.

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Traps/Mines: Traps and mines cannot be triggered by any trigger effect, but will still be disabled when linked to an applicable triggers. However, Detonate Mines skill gem can be linked to a trigger gem.

Totems: Totems cannot be summoned using triggers. Totems can not trigger any further effects themselves as well.

Vaal skills: Vaal skills cannot be triggered, even if the player has the required amount of souls.

vast gazelle Mar 12, 2020, 10:50 PM

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@celest atlas tarkecat has a good recommendations video

celest atlas Mar 12, 2020, 10:51 PM

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ok thx will have a look

sterile fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Wait they nerfed contagion ??????

violet nymph Mar 12, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Back in like blight lol

sterile fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Oh I was making sure it wasn’t again

weak berry Mar 12, 2020, 11:17 PM

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They gently feathered the aoe in blight yeah

sterile fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Contagion is still fine with a few passive points 😉

storm veldt Mar 12, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Opinions on Vortex being decent for this league?

patent canyon Mar 12, 2020, 11:23 PM

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its alright

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or might be complete cancer if you get overwhelmed by mobs and you are just sitting there drinking tea waiting for vortex to come off cd

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 11:26 PM

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But hey you can have 2 charges now templarLul

sterile fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 11:31 PM

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nope

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Vortex is instant

raw locust Mar 12, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Quick question - did Baron lose its +2 minion gems? Not sure if the patch notes modified existing mods, or if those are now the only mods on it.

tall crane Mar 12, 2020, 11:35 PM

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@raw locust still + 2 minion gems

raw locust Mar 12, 2020, 11:35 PM

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thanks!

tall crane Mar 12, 2020, 11:36 PM

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@raw locust just this one Minions have 20% increased maximum Life now it`s 10-20%

raw locust Mar 12, 2020, 11:38 PM

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I was tracking the life/leech/str scaling changes, just wasn't sure if it had lost the +2 as well

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The "now grants" made me wonder if the new mods listed in the notes were a full replacement of the old mods, or just changes to the existing ones.

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It'll still work for throwing support specs in, so that works for me.

torn isle Mar 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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second wind wold still help vortex come off CD faster though.

brazen arch Mar 12, 2020, 11:54 PM

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what yall doing for league starters?

wild arch Mar 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Nothing vanity

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Tried out a few builds in PoB but they're all underwhelming to say the least

warm breach Mar 13, 2020, 12:01 AM

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does anyone know if the new stash tab saving from parent league will also save the order of the tabs or just the names? As in do I have to reorder 30 tabs in the new league or do they come in the order set by parent league as well?

red jackal Mar 13, 2020, 12:13 AM

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of course it'll also save the order

brazen arch Mar 13, 2020, 12:14 AM

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is there a way to trigger mines without detonating?

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like a macro or something?

red jackal Mar 13, 2020, 12:15 AM

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spell totem detonate mines, cast when damage taken detonate mines... not really the right channel for such questions though, and no, macros for that are not allowed

brazen arch Mar 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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game was designed around macros so i asked

red jackal Mar 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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not really though. maybe you're thinking of explosive blast d3 builds. ;)

brazen arch Mar 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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i dont play d3

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so i have no idea what ur talkin about

viscid vortex Mar 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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you get a detonate mine "skill" and there's a gem I believe also

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So, kinetic bolt damage, what is it? phys, or does it do what I think it does and only scales off "added whatever to attack" mods and spell damage?

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 12:19 AM

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It scales off your wand's damage, just like every other attack skill in existence

viscid vortex Mar 13, 2020, 12:26 AM

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I've played 1 melee build and loathed it, so there's that.

brazen arch Mar 13, 2020, 12:37 AM

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melee is ez, u just have to be much more careful

viscid vortex Mar 13, 2020, 12:38 AM

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I'm 1: lazy, and 2: often have my grandaughter in my lap, and apparently old fml

brazen arch Mar 13, 2020, 12:38 AM

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are u playing softcore?

viscid vortex Mar 13, 2020, 12:55 AM

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always

brazen arch Mar 13, 2020, 1:29 AM

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well if ur playing softcore and your complaiing about being lazy

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i dont see a point

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does change a thing in melee for u besides making it ez

sacred trellis Mar 13, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Are wanders good now?

gray moon Mar 13, 2020, 2:30 AM

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think the snipe skill's 6 different attacks when you fully channel will all have different damage rolls or will it be one damage roll for each attack at the end of snipe?

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this question is important for bleed damage

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well, at least for non crimson dance bleed damage

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in fact, that helm could be extremely good if it has different damage rolls for all the attacks at the end of snipe channeling

sharp iron Mar 13, 2020, 2:36 AM

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The skill the boots grants is level 1, meaning it is obtainable early

sour mountain Mar 13, 2020, 2:48 AM

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i thought snipe itself didn't actually do anything, it turns the attack(s) in it into a pseudo-channeled skill

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you channel, release, and it shoots out a jacked up version of the attack you've linked to it
probably really good with puncture, too

spiral bone Mar 13, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I'm sure this has already been answered, but can you have multiple of the same notable from cluster jewels?

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 3:06 AM

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yes

spiral bone Mar 13, 2020, 3:07 AM

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is there confirmation of that somewhere?

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 3:07 AM

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yes

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lazy to find it though

deft girder Mar 13, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Think bex mention this in the cluster jewel reddit post.

hollow prism Mar 13, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Would multiple Sadists stack?

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Cause those plus the new boots could be sexy

violet nymph Mar 13, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Heya guys

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Does anyone know if there are any new gemskilltreethings for miners/pyroclastmine/PFMines?

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Wait is this mechanics as in the encounter

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Sorry wrong room im an idiot lmao

vast gazelle Mar 13, 2020, 4:35 AM

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@brazen arch good old mines

deft girder Mar 13, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Didn't GGG added the option to spam detonate mines on hold?

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Could be useful with very high throwing speed.

copper kernel Mar 13, 2020, 5:59 AM

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nope

deft girder Mar 13, 2020, 6:01 AM

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"Standardised the behaviour of instant skills bound to the left mouse button or any button that is held thusly: all non-Vaal guard skills, Blood Rage, Detonate Mines, Convocation, Phase Run, Vortex, Summon Doedre's Effigy, Focus, Brand Recall and Withering Step will repeat as long as you hold the button down."

copper kernel Mar 13, 2020, 6:10 AM

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oooh that

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yeah

languid path Mar 13, 2020, 6:17 AM

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reusing detonate mine mid sequence will start a new chain, so you probably don't wanna do that

deft girder Mar 13, 2020, 6:19 AM

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You do want to trigger it like 2-3 times early for spam throwing. Often it break early when spamming mines.

languid path Mar 13, 2020, 6:20 AM

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that's because you're throwing mines too early and it override the mines you currently have

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so it ends the chain

deft girder Mar 13, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I know that but server lag can make timing it really weird.

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I have like a 0.3 sec window where I can hit 50 chains. Mostly I only hit 20 chains.

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Spamming early makes it easier to get longer chain later on.

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I guess you don't have to do it if on a good connection.

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Actually the max mine on cluster jewel can make it easier to sustain longer chain.

crystal mango Mar 13, 2020, 7:29 AM

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anyone have link how exact Delirium works? splinters, weaves, etc

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Would spellslinging with corona solaris add fire damage to the spells against blinded targets?

languid path Mar 13, 2020, 8:03 AM

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no

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 8:04 AM

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But isn't that local damage on the wand?

languid path Mar 13, 2020, 8:05 AM

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it's a local mod that affects hits dealt with the wand

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it's not a local dmg mod to the wand

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Don't all mods do that?

languid path Mar 13, 2020, 8:06 AM

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spellslinger only cares about what's on the wand itself, not its mods

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 8:06 AM

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But you get the wand's stats through mods...

languid path Mar 13, 2020, 8:07 AM

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no, you get the wand "base stats"

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not all of its stats

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Thinking about spellslinging ignite fireball

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Because you can put combustion on the wand attack for an 'extra' socket

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And I can throw flammability on hit on the attack as well

shut wagon Mar 13, 2020, 8:19 AM

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probably a good league to take out my golemancer again

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 8:23 AM

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I was wondering if baron zombie leech follows the overleech rules

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Could shattering steel kineticism be decent? marauderthinking

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Could shatterin... No

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I mean if you can get it working under 20ex but for you, but I dont think so

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On the other hand, says a guy who is leaguestarting with MoM + EB and 98% reserved mana

quasi tiger Mar 13, 2020, 9:59 AM

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was it confirmed if blight maps can or can't have delirium effect?

copper kernel Mar 13, 2020, 10:00 AM

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they cannot

violet nymph Mar 13, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Dumb question, but spell crit won't affect kinetic bolt right? It's just spell damage?

quasi tiger Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 AM

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attack, projectile are the only tags

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so I assume spell crit would not work

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 10:32 AM

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The description clearly states that only "Increases and reductions to spell DAMAGE" have an effect on the skill

swift terrace Mar 13, 2020, 10:35 AM

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Hey, just got that in mind... Do we have any info about possibility of old Keystones available from new jewels?

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 11:13 AM

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Nope

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The new keystones are inside unique jewels

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Is eye of innocence the only way for totems to hit themselves?

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 11:33 AM

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they can hit themselves in reflect maps (:

frigid venture Mar 13, 2020, 11:58 AM

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How many levels deep can you go with cluster jewels?

dark condor Mar 13, 2020, 11:59 AM

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Depends on the spell

dusty umbra Mar 13, 2020, 12:02 PM

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@frigid venture large -> med -> small -> no further

thick tiger Mar 13, 2020, 12:54 PM

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biggest convoluted cluster would be that unique large that goes to 3 mediums and each of those can be the one that goes 2 small, so ends up with

1 Large
3 Medium
6 Small

for the cluster

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 12:54 PM

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How do you know you cant have 2 sockets on medium ?

thick tiger Mar 13, 2020, 12:55 PM

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one of the mediums in image had 2 sockets

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Oh wait

thick tiger Mar 13, 2020, 12:55 PM

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don’t know if we can get 3 on medium

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but i do know 2 is posible

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Hard brain fart sorry

thick tiger Mar 13, 2020, 12:56 PM

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a cluster that big would use 50 points easy

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maybe 70

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just know emperian is gonna make a build from only clusters

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I have 2 cluster jewels allocated hehe I dont think I will need it when I think about it

thick tiger Mar 13, 2020, 12:57 PM

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mine has 1 and i can path to a 2nd with 5 points

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make a build that’s complete by lvl 70 and use the rest on clusters

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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My build uses 93-95 skill points. Depending on whether I have a specific item or not

placid bone Mar 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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No build is complete by lvl 70
Can never have enough health 😔

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 12:59 PM

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118% enough

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Because you can get it on the new jewels too

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@thick tiger So without the Voices it is 1 large 2 medium 4 small ?

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If you focus on damage on large and medium, you can get alot of life on small ones

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lets say 20-26% per small jewel

thick tiger Mar 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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it depends on the large, some are only single

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same with medium, some are only single socket

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unless you can roll 2 sockets easily

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with alch spam

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 1:02 PM

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yeaaaaa

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just use 2 large ones then 4head

thick tiger Mar 13, 2020, 1:03 PM

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i’m pretty sure i’ll be alch spamming a lot of jewels this league

wispy crest Mar 13, 2020, 1:03 PM

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exalt slamming meta ?

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😄

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 1:04 PM

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leo in research meta

white hillBOT Mar 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Please don't post discord invites

modest pebble Mar 13, 2020, 4:00 PM

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can small jewels have damage nodes or do they solely have defense

wintry apex Mar 13, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Some of them have a bit of damage on them

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Like increased damage while leeching, enemies take increased damage from being taunted by you

modest pebble Mar 13, 2020, 4:17 PM

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any chance of the pure damage ones appearing?

wintry apex Mar 13, 2020, 4:25 PM

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On small ones, no

modest pebble Mar 13, 2020, 4:25 PM

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aw

wintry apex Mar 13, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Big cluster jewels are more generic damage, medium ones are for more specialisation like brands and totems, and minor nodes are for defenses

modest pebble Mar 13, 2020, 4:26 PM

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mm cool

lean lark Mar 13, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Do multiple siphon traps damage stack on a single enemy?

wintry apex Mar 13, 2020, 4:27 PM

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While I haven't tested the wording suggests that it does not

modest pebble Mar 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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also, are cluster jewels only appearing where jewel sockets are now on the very outside of the skill tree?

wintry apex Mar 13, 2020, 4:28 PM

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It says that the trap applies a debuff, and the debuff is dealing the damage.

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The trap itself isn't constantly dealing the damage like Toxic Rain's pods for instance, which do stack

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If a damaging debuff is mentioned the skill says that it stacks

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In the case of Toxic Rain it says that each pod deals the damage, for blight it says a debuff stack cap

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No such thing for siphoning trap though

lean lark Mar 13, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Interesting

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Thanks

shut wagon Mar 13, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Hey at which time can we steam user pre-download ?

slow lake Mar 13, 2020, 4:40 PM

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usually its 2-3 hours before launch

zealous thunder Mar 13, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Is delirium going to be in every zone

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 4:41 PM

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The mirror will be in every story area from coast onwards and every non-unique map

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You can always choose not to engage with it though

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

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i read that as mirror of kalandra

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templarLul

steep dock Mar 13, 2020, 4:56 PM

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inb4 there's an exact duplicate of you at the end that you have to fight

frigid holly Mar 13, 2020, 5:03 PM

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poepoe update on steam availability

visual pier Mar 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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update should roll out soon on steam

lyric ore Mar 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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out now

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Do we know exactly what spectres are a part of Several Spectres that were dealing damage far above others have been toned down.? I know we can probably speculate some ie slave driver, but any confirmations on which ones?

rich axle Mar 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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so are you guys trying to use the mirrors while leveling up or are you just rushing your first char and thus skip the new content for now?

spice cipher Mar 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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depends how rippy it is tbh

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usually avoid till like act 2 tho and then do it here and there , more often as i level up

rich axle Mar 13, 2020, 5:29 PM

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yeah. I'm still thinking about what starter I use. I probably also try it and if it's to hard I will do it with a second char with better gear

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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tag mirror on the way while lvling, if $ or unique, clear for 1-2 reward, otherwise skip

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I'll probably try it once or twice. But generally it would need to be extremely rewarding or not slow me down much for me to consistent run it during leveling

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I value getting into maps as quick a possible much more than a few uniques while leveing

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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the point of that is to hope/get some lvling uniques that make it faster

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or to sell

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Why exactly is archmage orb of storms a thing

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 5:39 PM

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pay cost once, reap benefit for whole 8 seconds of its duration

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Oh I'll reap it alright with my free lighting warp spam

modest pebble Mar 13, 2020, 5:41 PM

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how many notables can a medium cluster jewel potentially have

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I've seen 2, but is 3 possible

storm crown Mar 13, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Seen 2 notables with a jewelsocket

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So guess 3 notables is possible

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Don't the jewels have up to 4 mods on them?

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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4 + enchant

wild arch Mar 13, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Enchant is the base nodes that doesn't really count

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 5:57 PM

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the cluster jewel mods are up on poedb btw

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looks like we'll want to look for ilvl 84+ clusterjewels

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for the top end mods

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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link?

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we knew 84 for top end, just dk which ones

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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https://poedb.tw/us/skilltree.php?cn=Cluster+Jewel

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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am i blind or does that not say which ilvl/enchant for which ?

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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it doesn't

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i think the enchants aren't up yet

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these are the explicit mods

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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so basically what ggg has already released ~

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 5:59 PM

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right but you know what's the range now

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looks like mods are more powerful on small clusters > medium > large

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which makes sense i guess

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 6:00 PM

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hmmm. poedb has 3d models of those jewels https://poedb.tw/us/model?id=Medium+Cluster+Jewel

karmic palm Mar 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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well

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celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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well

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http://poedb.tw/us/achi.php?c=Delirium what challenge do you think is going to be the worst?

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left to chance seems rather irritating, and complete simulacrum 2 might be kind of painful too

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other ones don't seem too bad?

karmic palm Mar 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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corrupt challenge seems hard

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you need to be the one to have the temple for it right?

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cant buy your way through it

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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it's not too bad actually, you can skip 3 of them, which probably will be two corrupted implicit, and influenced rares

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the other ones are all fairly easy

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6L is a bit rarer, but you could just spam vaal orbs on chest armors

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1/144 chance to get it

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even EGG is kind of doable, depending on how much 750 waves of the simulacrum is

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blighted maps/500x delve encounters are both fairly doable

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defeat 100 conqs is doable too, especially if you buy some of them

karmic palm Mar 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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new mtx box seems nice

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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since it's not just sirus

karmic palm Mar 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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shouldve been the metamorph box though

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and this league polaris

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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is the info up?

karmic palm Mar 13, 2020, 6:09 PM

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its in poe db

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thaumaturgy stuff

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project/scientist theme

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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whats it under?

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can't find it

karmic palm Mar 13, 2020, 6:10 PM

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https://poedb.tw/us/item.php?theme=Thaumaturgy

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celestial animate weapon too

dark condor Mar 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Can you just corrupt a tabula for the 6L one?

karmic palm Mar 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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and illusionist blade skills mtx

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:11 PM

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doubt it, it's probably the 6L corrupted outcome

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that'd be hilarious if it works though

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oh yeah

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that totally has the metamorph look going on haha

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the raise zombies actually looks super cool

storm veldt Mar 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Im so hyped for this league xD

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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2 hours to go

storm veldt Mar 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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i cant find where i put my loot filter folder

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this is bad xD

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:14 PM

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documents/my games/path of exile

storm veldt Mar 13, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Life saviour

lunar drift Mar 13, 2020, 6:18 PM

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is delirium up?

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 6:19 PM

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minor oyster Mar 13, 2020, 6:24 PM

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7694 ahead of me 😦

earnest wave Mar 13, 2020, 6:28 PM

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would the +max res on the new notable, Veteran's Awareness, stack with Loreweave?

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📎 9b7AMWLfAyFAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Max res doesn't effect loreweave

earnest wave Mar 13, 2020, 6:29 PM

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ty

vast gazelle Mar 13, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Loreweave sets max res to static 78%

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So while you can't increase that you also can ignore -maxres on maps

next epoch Mar 13, 2020, 6:53 PM

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still waiting to see if ||Tangmazu|| is actually a boss in delirium or if they got renamed to Omniphobia or Kosis (mentioned in the "Complete Simulacrum I" challenge)

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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I wonder if Doedre's Malevolence count as adding mana cost for purposes of archmage.

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 7:02 PM

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yes but minimal

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since it adds to the total

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Specificly for using with skills that don't have a inherent mana cost.

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basicly would malevolence enable archmage on vaal skills.

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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I can't think of a reason why that wouldn't work

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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"Supports spell skills that deal damage with hits and have mana cost" is normally it (vaal skills) wouldn't be supportable without the gloves. So if it allows it to be support would that also cause the base mana cost to be 6% of mana?

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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double checked in game, works

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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neat

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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does not work with brand recall though, just vaal skills

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I'd expect that, brand recall doesn't deal damage with hits

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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yep

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I just know there were some people trying to mess around with that

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Vaal flameblast + archmage pepethink

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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vaalbv

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vaal stormcall!

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instant delete bossess

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Yeah, lots of good choices

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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damn you. I closed my local client and because I have it run a script to close all PoE windows I'm now 10k further back in queue 😛

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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lol

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not working today?

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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ohno

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I'm in the office if anything comes up but going to be playing otherwise

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Just restart the queue real quick to get 1st spot Kappa

next epoch Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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u n e t h i c a l

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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//dev_queue_#1

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:12 PM

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yes I definitely have the power to do that 👀

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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delirium ladder not updated on forum

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cant see viper's lvl 1 char on strand

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=/

next epoch Mar 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Who said it was on the public realm?

native sonnet Mar 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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aight which 1 is u viper

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silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:22 PM

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templarLul

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📎 unknown.png

bold basalt Mar 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Same lmao

viscid vortex Mar 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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You have like no less than 36 minutes in said queue

hasty perch Mar 13, 2020, 7:30 PM

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when you realize that means you get to enter PoE before official GGG staff

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galaxyBrainSkill

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Soo, another intresting thing is vaal fireball + stormfire. Threw the values into a random pob with 2k mana seems competive (though slightly worse) than combustion (worse support in setup). so for an actually mom build seems like a really legit ~~skill~~ support gem there.

meager cosmos Mar 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Hey there , sb know how to search for "x" notable on a new jewel in pathofexile.com/trade ?

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 7:36 PM

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in order to prevent unintended spoilers, stat filters for new stats on the trade site don't become visible until someone lists an item with that stat for trade

meager cosmos Mar 13, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Allright thanks a lot!

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Oh, that's really cool way of handing it.

jaunty quail Mar 13, 2020, 7:37 PM

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duh

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 7:50 PM

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imagine the first guy finding rarest best jewel combo in the game and then vendoring it because trade site simply said no one has it for sale so it must be bad

quaint gull Mar 13, 2020, 7:51 PM

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imagine finding mirror and using on magic wand with rgb linked templarLul

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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+1 chrome

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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https://youtu.be/D0JFFyskXrE?t=17

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static shoal Mar 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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good luck yall boys and girls

real surge Mar 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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POG, the countdown has begun

celest tiger Mar 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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18075 ahead 😄

real surge Mar 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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i have 40k infront of me >.<

gentle kayak Mar 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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so wait, about this league. what do i want to do: just enter the Delirium portal in each zone and then clear the zone to end and progress?

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Essentially.

silver kettle Mar 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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uhhhh don't hold yourself to that early on

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trying to push too deep into the fog while levelling is a good way to die embarrassingly

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 8:07 PM

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wow spoilers

timid geyser Mar 13, 2020, 8:07 PM

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but must get more loot vanity

patent canyon Mar 13, 2020, 8:08 PM

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also what do you do if you dont want to progress anymore? stand still? click something?

peak terrace Mar 13, 2020, 8:13 PM

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i refuse to die viper

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i shall not

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having said that

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see u on the other side

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👻

frosty aurora Mar 13, 2020, 9:28 PM

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viper with the romantic quotes

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do you pass coffee to all the ggg staff?

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PogYou

past badger Mar 13, 2020, 9:32 PM

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omg, so many bugs again

vast patrol Mar 13, 2020, 10:11 PM

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got DCd now 11127 people ahead

violet nymph Mar 13, 2020, 10:12 PM

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can someone give me a tldr on how the delirium fog actually works

hidden silo Mar 13, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Why aren't enemies spawning in delirium portal

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I can never get enough for the reward even level 1

last kite Mar 13, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@hidden silo you have to follow the mist as it spreads out while killing stuff

hidden silo Mar 13, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Ive been trying

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weird

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thank

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you

last kite Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 PM

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np

violet nymph Mar 13, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@violet nymph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnzYKCPnYq0

YouTube

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3.10 Delirium Fog Explained - Pick the Right Build!

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I can't, but Tarkecat can...

livid scaffold Mar 13, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Got yeeted out of the boss fight at the end of act 1, only 1056 people ahead of me

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sry, 10956

round wolf Mar 13, 2020, 10:41 PM

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don't forget to wait for the delirium to expire before leaving a zone if you want your rewards~

ionic ingot Mar 13, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Can we get Unique items in deli portal?

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Like guaranteed

dark condor Mar 13, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Yes, Unique is one of the reward types

frosty isle Mar 13, 2020, 11:13 PM

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wonder if its weighted on which one you get

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i keep geting the same kind

ionic ingot Mar 13, 2020, 11:29 PM

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im lvl 40 and havent got a single one 😦

hushed sequoia Mar 14, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Sooo cyclone is the way to go?

woeful halo Mar 14, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Any clearpeed build is fine

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Though you can get maps that are always Delirium for build that aren't speedclear

fallow nymph Mar 14, 2020, 12:40 AM

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my first portal dropped a unique iron ring

stiff minnow Mar 14, 2020, 1:20 AM

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is there a hotkey to end delerium please??

woeful halo Mar 14, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Yes near skills

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Same as Blight

rustic mountain Mar 14, 2020, 1:41 AM

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so uhhh

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did animate weapon get a new interaction

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the new lingering blades occasionally cyclone. Was that always a thing?

solemn nebula Mar 14, 2020, 1:45 AM

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SpellSlinger+Leech Question: Anyone know why Spell Damage Leeched as Energy Shield doesn't work with Spellslinger?

lucid dagger Mar 14, 2020, 1:47 AM

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when you pop the fog and the delirium starts --- do all the monsters count towards the rewards, including the original monsters on the map? or just the delirium mobs?

atomic arrow Mar 14, 2020, 2:06 AM

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All monsters seem to count, even monsters spawned by strongboxes.

rustic mountain Mar 14, 2020, 2:14 AM

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uh animate weapon is really strong now guys

mint holly Mar 14, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Haven't tested new animuweps yet but as someone who played cwc chaos wither animator in breach I can tell you the ones from the gem didn't cyclone at that time but the ones spawned by rampaging I think did

rustic mountain Mar 14, 2020, 2:23 AM

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the kunai ones spawned by lingering blades randomly cyclone in place if a lot of mobs are in one spot

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its really nice

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I think this is the first time I've done a ~1 minute kill on malachai and not had to faceroll my keyboard

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(cause of his stupid invlunerabilities)

cyan warren Mar 14, 2020, 3:12 AM

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delirium risk seems to out weight the rewards by such a huge amount..

storm crown Mar 14, 2020, 3:13 AM

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got 2 chaos so far from it and im lvl 43

exotic fable Mar 14, 2020, 3:36 AM

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where do cluster jewels even drop

atomic arrow Mar 14, 2020, 3:43 AM

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They drop off of random mobs during deliriums starting act 6, but might be sooner. (after killing Innocence?)

dawn dew Mar 14, 2020, 3:52 AM

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am i just unlucky then chaosthinking

sick glacier Mar 14, 2020, 4:15 AM

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does ilvl matter on the new cluster jewels or can they all roll any notable?

hasty perch Mar 14, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Ilvl matters at least for mod tiers

sick glacier Mar 14, 2020, 5:00 AM

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yeah on poedb i see it shows ilvl for the small node mods

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but i cant find anything about notables

marble ginkgo Mar 14, 2020, 5:32 AM

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How the fel are you supposed to sell cluster jewels

next epoch Mar 14, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Same way you sell legion jewels, i.e. with great difficulty

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Although I suppose at least you can tell what a cluster jewel does by its description

hushed sequoia Mar 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Price gonna greatly vary until the meta is solidified prolly

gaunt latch Mar 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

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how do you get rewards out of a delirium orbed map? 0 mobs left and stuff hasnt dropped....

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is it bugged?

honest dawn Mar 14, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Hi.
Can anyone suggest if delirium skill tree expansion consumes passive skill points or has points from jewels itself?

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Is the skill tree expansion independent of the passive skill points and gets points from the delirium jewels?

jovial sleet Mar 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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im so confused

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i activated delirium

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then things turned shadowy

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and then it became the normal map again and i barely killed that many monsters

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is there something we're supposed to be doing afdter triggering delirium?

unkempt dome Mar 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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you need to stay in the fog

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go deeper

jovial sleet Mar 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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is ther ea time limit on it or anything?

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or just go deep as u can, go towards boundaires if u can't handle it?

unkempt dome Mar 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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no time limit but fog slowly leaves the map

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and if u stay more than 5 seconds out of fog, it becames normal map again

jovial sleet Mar 14, 2020, 7:47 AM

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thx

simple shore Mar 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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What implicits is needed to roll explosive force?

violet nymph Mar 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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can you fossil craft cluster jewels?

simple shore Mar 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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From what I heard u can

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Not sure which mods get added by fossils

jagged surge Mar 14, 2020, 7:55 AM

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got a patching error: is it common?
'failed writing received data'

how do i fix it?

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this is due to the last 30MB patch

violet nymph Mar 14, 2020, 7:55 AM

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i just was wondering if i could block the shite nodes

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jagged+corroded to get bleed stuff

simple shore Mar 14, 2020, 8:02 AM

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So has anyone found out what implicits can rool explosive force notable yet?

fossil owl Mar 14, 2020, 8:26 AM

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how do you plan out build with cluster jewels existing

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seems complicated

devout fiber Mar 14, 2020, 8:29 AM

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So, question...I'm confused about cluster jewels. Are there like, a set amount of cluster jewels, that give specific skills, or is each cluster jewel randomized with random skills?

fossil owl Mar 14, 2020, 8:30 AM

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randomized

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theres uniques tho

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:31 AM

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So there is a set amount of enchants and the enchant limits which notables can spawn on the cluster jewel.

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poedb has quite a bit of info on them at this point https://poedb.tw/us/skilltree.php?cn=Cluster+Jewel

sudden jay Mar 14, 2020, 8:34 AM

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I've seen people hitting cluster jewels with alterations does this modify the main node of the cluster?

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:40 AM

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It changes the affixes. Enchant can not be changed.

sudden jay Mar 14, 2020, 8:44 AM

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so since the enchant are : add to small passive skills and the suffix adds the big node the only thing i can change is the only thing i want to keep ? XDD feels bad

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can u regal them?

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or augment them?

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:49 AM

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Yeah, enchant is the white text. and yeah you can craft them with basically anything you can craft a normal jewel with.

sudden jay Mar 14, 2020, 8:57 AM

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neat thanks

frigid venture Mar 14, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Do global modifiers like flat phys per level on poet's pen affect spellslinger?

torpid sonnet Mar 14, 2020, 10:09 AM

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No, only local added damage mods

austere anvil Mar 14, 2020, 10:37 AM

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you can drop cluster jewels in acts?

marble ginkgo Mar 14, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Can the impale notables spawn on 2h jewels?

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area lvl 45 onwards for cluster jewels so start of à6

frozen bolt Mar 14, 2020, 11:08 AM

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any confirmation that notables are affected by fossil weighting?

frigid venture Mar 14, 2020, 11:41 AM

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Is it safe to assume archmage support only benefits the first cast of an unleash sequence?

loud lotus Mar 14, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Damn, spawned a Delirium boss but couldn't beat it

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It dropped to half health, then ran away

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Shits tanky af but got telegraphed attacks, just didn't have the DPS to mow it down

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Maybe that's why there aren't any Delirium uniques revealed yet

violet nymph Mar 14, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Any skills/builds that are looking strong for delirium?

cunning blade Mar 14, 2020, 1:21 PM

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wait u can fossil craft cluster jewels? @frozen bolt

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vanity

frozen bolt Mar 14, 2020, 1:29 PM

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idk havent tried but i dont see why not

ember lodge Mar 14, 2020, 1:53 PM

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So EB doesn't seem to change my Archmage damage at all, bug with the tooltip or intended, anyone know?

lucid dagger Mar 14, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Does the Delirium encounter go on longer as you kill more mobs, like Breach?

torpid sonnet Mar 14, 2020, 2:05 PM

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the EB/archmage interaction is intended

hasty perch Mar 14, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Archmage is a % of mana only

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So eb isn't giving more damage

torpid sonnet Mar 14, 2020, 2:06 PM

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if you reserve mana behind EB your damage will go down though

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because that archmage added damage is based on a percentage of unreserved mana

outer plank Mar 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Delirium is a terrible mechanic when you have the unnatural talent for always going down the shortest path on the map... Dammit.

ember lodge Mar 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I agree, except it was confirmed by the devs on reddit that EB boosted the damage.

torpid sonnet Mar 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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no it wasnt

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it was confirmed that you can spend ES with archmage

lucid dagger Mar 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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what is EB?

torpid sonnet Mar 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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the damage is still based purely on unreserved mana

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EB = eldritch battery, spend energy shield for spells

ember lodge Mar 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Ok so EB increases the max pool, which Archmage counts. But it only gives you damage based on the MANA consumed?

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I'm going off this : https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/fh78tk/path_of_exile_delirium_gem_information/fk9e01c/?context=10

r/pathofexile - Path of Exile: Delirium Gem Information

1,177 votes and 1,717 comments so far on Reddit

violet nymph Mar 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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If it says mana, EB is gonna make that context strictly worse

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Besides for mom

ember lodge Mar 14, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Oh I get it now, ignore me.

modest pebble Mar 14, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Is it possible to get impale notables on a medium cluster jewel

digital lantern Mar 14, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Has someone figured out how to socket spellsinger spells that they cast in a given order? Like desecrate and bodyswap ( even in the same linked item ) if i put desecrate before bodyswap, bodyswap only works on my 2nd attack. The same for volataile dead.

rapid hedge Mar 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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is the inability to leech from delirium mobs a bug or intended?

cunning blade Mar 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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probably a bug, no idea

ember lodge Mar 14, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I feel like its way too harsh to be intended.

storm crown Mar 14, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Are The delirium orbs and clusters common or are they very rare?

cunning blade Mar 14, 2020, 4:00 PM

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clusters drop every now and then

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no idea about orbs

violet nymph Mar 14, 2020, 4:09 PM

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@digital lantern they happen simultaneously, if you want that to work I'd suggest putting a coc setup on your wand attack as a trigger for bodyswap, with desecrate on spellslinger

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Since the crit happens after the attack

ember lodge Mar 14, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Wow . Minion speed, impale and leech 😄

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cunning blade Mar 14, 2020, 4:12 PM

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vanity

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notLikeThis

storm crown Mar 14, 2020, 4:23 PM

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👍

storm crown Mar 14, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Im guessing you feel The minion nerfs 😏

ember lodge Mar 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Good job i'm not a minion build 😄 I just want the cash

white hare Mar 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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anyone figured out how i get my rewards from a deliruim influenced map?

hardy relic Mar 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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hi, what of the delirium league is in the standard league, all the content or do I have to play delirium league? I kinda wanne continue with my main in standard

storm crown Mar 14, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Clusters are from delirium

deft girder Mar 14, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Cluster jewel is pretty funky.

ashen rose Mar 14, 2020, 6:42 PM

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i think i found a bug, you cant get infusion if you channel stormbind apparently

untold abyss Mar 14, 2020, 6:44 PM

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just me or the mobs from delirium are ridiculous strong ?

violet nymph Mar 14, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Sounds like you're going too deep

cursive glen Mar 14, 2020, 7:16 PM

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idk, feels kinda inconsistent

wild arch Mar 14, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Anyone got to try out hollow palm yet?

cursive glen Mar 14, 2020, 7:16 PM

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sometimes they're a cakewalk, other times I literally just popped the delirium encounter and get sundered oneshot from offscreen

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at least when dying to a metamorph I know I brought it upon myself, in delirium it feels like a dice roll on the type of enemies that spawn

storm crown Mar 14, 2020, 7:19 PM

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AT least i see something with delirium haha

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Playing around with new spectres atm. If anyone has suggestions to check out let me know.

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So far Baranite Sister are my favorite if anyone was wondering

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 8:00 PM

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High five for Baranite Sisters

fallen musk Mar 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Well this is pretty sweet for my bleed bow build

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timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:02 PM

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scales of esh are also legit

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like slave drivers but can do more stuff

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Bounce bounce bounce

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This isn't one I ended up looking into much but apparently the redeemer archers are pretty cool

glossy gyro Mar 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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hello i'm told bleed explosions dont work in delirium? is that true?

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Wait I just realized the scales of esh spawn more dudes LUL

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Hell yeah!

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Little army of scales

tall lily Mar 14, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Sometimes delirium rewards are okay but most the time they arent that good considering i sweat everytime i do the mechanic

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Roc Sentinels from maraketh legion seem really if you can get them dealing enough damage

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Their projectile speed/coverage seems really nice.

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Could probably complement any AW builds if they need help with clear

dusky trout Mar 14, 2020, 8:46 PM

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did i get a pog jewel

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https://i.imgur.com/J4jhq7H.png

Imgur

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:47 PM

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seems decent

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Plus 2 jewel socket would be ideal (only ilvl 84 75), and the +1 impale notable seems to be the ideal pick for most attack builds

jovial sleet Mar 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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so it seems a timer is there for delirium

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but killing stuff increases it

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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2 sockets is 75 not 84 @timid geyser

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:50 PM

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oh it is. I miss me mixing up 35% and 2 sockets

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idk if it intentional or not, but the legion monster corpses despawn really quickly making it pretty annoying to get spectres from them.

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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It is intentional. They have to despawn for performance reasons. Not ideal but no justifiable solution

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Yeah, that's what I figured. Would it be possible to extend their corpse duration maybe?

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Not really

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Technically possible, yes. Would require a huge amount of work

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Alright, not a huge deal with desecrate changes a while back. Just gotta be on my toes getting them initially.

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 8:56 PM

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That's the hope

topaz hill Mar 14, 2020, 9:13 PM

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it feels like leeching isnt working on delirium mobs

dusky trout Mar 14, 2020, 9:14 PM

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is delirium mobs not being leechable the new missing alchemy orb conspiracy

deft girder Mar 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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How is normal blight with delirium?

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I know you can hit high stacks with abyss.

dusky trout Mar 14, 2020, 9:31 PM

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ive been testing on my hierophant and i definitely leech life with the hiero ascendancy vs the delirium mobs in blood aqueducts

hardy relic Mar 14, 2020, 9:36 PM

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what changes were made to the standard league with delirium?

silver kettle Mar 14, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@hardy relic everything in the patch notes (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2784310) except for the Delirium Challenge League section

Path of Exile

Forum - Patch Notes - Content Update 3.10.0 -- Path of Exile: Delir...

Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.

rich orbit Mar 14, 2020, 9:45 PM

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is there any strong builds for delirium already ?

valid isle Mar 14, 2020, 9:54 PM

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pretty much anything with archmage

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its shockingly strong

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LUL

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

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how does one max out delirium encounters? I find myself running out of delirium mobs to kill at level 2-3

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Are you still in acts?

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:04 PM

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yep

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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That is probably why. Its just a matter of killing more monsters.

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Monster density is lower in acts vs maps.

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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but I run out of the delirium monsters and cant find any

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just normal monsters

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Just progress further and into maps

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You'll be able to push much more rewards.

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Like, sometimes I clear all of the map and still dont get max reward

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it just seems random to me

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

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There isn't a "max" in terms of rewards

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I'm supposed to step on the mushrooms, right? They don't continuously spawn mobs, just the ones when you step on them?

maiden junco Mar 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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so what makes a good cluster jewel?

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i've got a cluster jewel with 3 elemental related passives and a jewel socket

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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It varies based off jewel size and build.

maiden junco Mar 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Hypnotic Ruin
Large Cluster Jewel
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Item Level: 68
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Adds 8 Passive Skills (enchant)
Added Small Passive Skills grant: 12% increased Cold Damage (enchant)
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1 Added Passive Skill is Disorienting Display
1 Added Passive Skill is Sadist
1 Added Passive Skill is Vengeful Commander
1 Added Passive Skill is a Jewel Socket
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Place into an allocated Large Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Added passives do not interact with jewel radiuses. Right click to remove from the Socket.

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that one seems pretty dope.

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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For large clusters it is basically 2 sockets or bust if you are putting any budget into the build.

maiden junco Mar 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

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cold damage small passives, 2 ele damage passives, 1 anger/wrath/hatred passive

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

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@timid geyser so sometimes the map only supports enough mobs for level 2 no matter what ?

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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In maps? I have never experienced that

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Only times I'll ever get something that low is if mirror spawns in a weird spot and I clear the whole map before hand.

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I mean in maps of the acts

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sorry got confused with the terminology

timid geyser Mar 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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As you progress further into the acts you'll be able to get more.

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In early acts though 2 sounds about right.

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tbh I didn't run them that much while leveling

wild arch Mar 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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My archmage ball lightning is instakilling everything with practically no damage nodes on the tree

next epoch Mar 14, 2020, 10:14 PM

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@cursive flame FWIW, to avoid further confusion, the term you're looking for is "world areas", not "maps". Maps are something else you'll encounter much later

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It is typical for league mechanics to be pretty limited early in acts, to keep new players from getting too overwhelmed. Just keep going

cursive flame Mar 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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good to know thanks

wild arch Mar 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Really wish there was a scientist ball lightning mtx to go with the new set

old lagoon Mar 14, 2020, 10:18 PM

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OMG delirium is fun, GO in a map, 1FPS at start of the map, 1 jump, and your in the mirror.. that follows of a 10SEC with 1 FPS, and SUPRRIZE! your dead... what happend to the game? it was not like this before. OR is it Delirium 1FPS! Sorry go buy a topend Gamer computer or F... OF playing POE???

wild arch Mar 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I have 0 issues with that so must be either your internet or pc

old lagoon Mar 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

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heard many had issues thou 😛

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no issues before 3.10 ^^ game was smooth...

old cedar Mar 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

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my fps drops with a lot of mobs, didnt happen last league though, maybe the fog has something to do with it. im running on 144fps mostly with some drops to 50s in mob clusters

old lagoon Mar 14, 2020, 10:25 PM

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ene tryed on 800*600.. it's the same.. every time the game has to load something new BOOM 1 fps and stright back up,

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so if game has to load 10 things 10 SEC 1 fps.. sometimes more, and boom your dead.

maiden junco Mar 14, 2020, 10:28 PM

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did they get ri dof the whole 'if you complete a map, all the lower tier maps are completed' bit

spice cipher Mar 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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no, are you in standard?

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only works in standard

maiden junco Mar 14, 2020, 10:30 PM

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ahh didn't catch that

static shoal Mar 14, 2020, 10:48 PM

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act 10 kitawa bugged or what?

strange gale Mar 14, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Devastator passive from cluster jewel works on impale cyclone? i dont see any explodes

static shoal Mar 14, 2020, 10:56 PM

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endless kitawa

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maiden junco Mar 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Cluster_Jewel#List_of_keystone_nodes

Are all these mods confirmed in the game? I don't see a solid amount of them on trade at all

Path of Exile Wiki

Cluster Jewel

Cluster Jewels are a class of jewels that can be socketed in the outermost sockets of the passive skill tree. These jewels extend the skill tree by creating new clusters of nodes, which can contain basic nodes, notable skills and even keystones. They can also create more jewel...

woeful halo Mar 15, 2020, 12:02 AM

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They won't appear in trade until someone posts them

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Also the keystones are specific to unique cluster jewels.

maiden junco Mar 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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i think i was searching wrong anyway. i'm starting to see the right results.

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using the weighted sum search to find good cluster jewels

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given there are so many helpful passives

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Man delirium is so much more dangerous than normal mapping

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It's rippy as f steelskinSkill templarSad

next epoch Mar 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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@maiden junco There's a lot we don't know yet about how cluster jewels are generated. From what I've seen so far, it seems like they have a tendency to generate groups of related passives

maiden junco Mar 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I've noticed that to some degree, but I'm also seeing some that are totally unrelated like one chaos dot passive and a totem skill passive

abstract sinew Mar 15, 2020, 12:25 AM

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is delirium supposed to be never ending?

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i added a delirium orb to a map

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and i killed every mob

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but nothing happening

next epoch Mar 15, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Yes, that's what a delirium orb does

abstract sinew Mar 15, 2020, 12:27 AM

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how do i get the rewards?

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usually theres a timer or something

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@next epoch this doesnt do anything?

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next epoch Mar 15, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Oh, good question. I'm not sure

abstract sinew Mar 15, 2020, 12:29 AM

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usually in a map the timer ends and those explode into rewards

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I figured they drop while clearing. I haven't tried using one of the orbs yet tbh so I'm not too sure.

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Has anyone managed to corrupt any implicits on cluster jewels?

peak terrace Mar 15, 2020, 1:27 AM

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is that possible even

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I'll waste some currency real quick

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But yeah like 95% sure they can be corrupted

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Yeah, you can corrupt them and they look to share the same corrupted implicits as normal jewels.

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Corrupted 4. got 3 with corrupted implicits and 1 rerolled with random mods.

peak terrace Mar 15, 2020, 1:45 AM

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can u get corrupted blood on it

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😱

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 1:52 AM

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all mana reservation ones 😮

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what happends if you ruin them?

orchid saddle Mar 15, 2020, 2:55 AM

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is there some tell i'm not seeing here? i have an orb that spawns at my feet and i have .7 seconds to move or i get one shot. is there a mob type that does it so i know which one to be alert for? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3VnvvVT7PI

YouTube

Synthetica

Delirium

▶ Play video

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 3:01 AM

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The best advice I can give is if you see a ghost pop out of a mob, immediately dash a screen away

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Anyone got any idea what this is? 🤔

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crimson basin Mar 15, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Can someone explain wtf I need to do as I’m lvling up

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I go thru the mirror then idk where to go or what to do

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Go as far from the starting position as possible

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And kill everything on sight

crimson basin Mar 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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So go to objective/end of map

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And kill shit on the way

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Instead of just ignoring mobs

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Correct?

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Yup

cunning blade Mar 15, 2020, 4:24 AM

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its for fishing duh

next epoch Mar 15, 2020, 4:29 AM

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why a pitfighter would be good at fishing, I'll never know

void wing Mar 15, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Water bodies are just pits with water after all.

simple shore Mar 15, 2020, 5:15 AM

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has anyone found a jewel with explosive force yet?

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theres none on the trade api currenty

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currently*

hollow current Mar 15, 2020, 6:49 AM

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does anyone know if notables on jewels apply twice if you get them twice?

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or would they not stack?

silver kettle Mar 15, 2020, 6:49 AM

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They stack

hollow current Mar 15, 2020, 6:50 AM

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fantastic

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thanks

stable moss Mar 15, 2020, 6:53 AM

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do the delirium mobs apply scorch, sap and brittle

woeful halo Mar 15, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Not from what I've seen, though I did get other debuffs like increased damage taken

cunning blade Mar 15, 2020, 7:22 AM

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bruh

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timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 7:23 AM

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not even 2 sockets vendor Kappa

cunning blade Mar 15, 2020, 7:27 AM

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templarLul

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exalt slam vanity

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Jewel is maxed out already

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Yeah, 2 jewel sockets is same mod as 1 socket. Just higher tier

muted drum Mar 15, 2020, 7:57 AM

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I can't seem to find a list for notables for small cluster jewels

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anybody got that?

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also what was the unique jewel that added 3 large cluster jewel slots?

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Voices

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and it is 3 medium sockets not large

muted drum Mar 15, 2020, 8:06 AM

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oh

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still good, thanks

eternal laurel Mar 15, 2020, 8:55 AM

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is there a lot of chaos damage in these delerium mobs? trying to work out if we need chaos res this league

glad narwhal Mar 15, 2020, 9:41 AM

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not as much as metamorph

obsidian ivy Mar 15, 2020, 9:42 AM

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I'm not sure where to ask, but is are there any chanes to unique items droprates in Delirium? I made a new character, lvl 50 atm, so far I got only 2 unique weapons drops. No armors, rings etc, nothing. Am I unlucky?

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From previous leagues I remember that unique drop rates were decent. I always got something more or less useful at very early levels.

glad narwhal Mar 15, 2020, 9:43 AM

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just unlucky

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and GGG almost never tells the community about drop rate changes

olive verge Mar 15, 2020, 9:44 AM

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well they are GRINDING gear games lmao

glad narwhal Mar 15, 2020, 9:45 AM

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I just checked reddit and people are hating hard lol

olive verge Mar 15, 2020, 9:47 AM

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idk have i just not reached big boy delirium mobs or what but currently at act 3 running toxic rain and having no issues if i keep moving

frigid venture Mar 15, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Does a placed storm call waiting to detonate snapshot flasks and buffs?

violet nymph Mar 15, 2020, 10:36 AM

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umm excuse me helo

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wth is delirium

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I enter the mirror, I kill spooks, it ends, thats its

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what am I missing

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does something drop back at mirror location?

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@ me pls if you can eli5

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oh, ok, a few rares drop at my location

stoic estuary Mar 15, 2020, 11:10 AM

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can anyone help me?

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whats the best budget friendly build

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league starter for 3.10

kindred gulch Mar 15, 2020, 11:32 AM

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Do i need passive points for the cluster jewels

placid bone Mar 15, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Yes

rich axle Mar 15, 2020, 11:51 AM

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@violet nymph you fill up a meter at the lower left side. When the Delirium ends you get a reward dropped at your feet depending on how many stacks you have.

dark condor Mar 15, 2020, 11:59 AM

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Once you enter through the mirror you are in a delirium cloud which moves in the zone. If you want to keep it going you have to move with it. The direction is indicated on the mobs, similar to the legion generals, and also in the movement of the waves in the fog

violet nymph Mar 15, 2020, 12:00 PM

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thanks

unkempt mica Mar 15, 2020, 12:09 PM

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remember if you go further away from the mirror after you've activated it, mobs get harder.

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know when to stop

left onyx Mar 15, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Up to a quite ridiculous point I might add. Levling, oneshotting mobs. Followed a looong delirium wave, ended up not even putting a dent in mobs ^

peak terrace Mar 15, 2020, 1:00 PM

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yep

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its good tho

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its. anice league mechanic

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Vendoring 5 rares will give you back a random one

vast bay Mar 15, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Besides the mobs getting tankier ,is there a visual indicator of how hard delirium gets... I'm thinking of popping the mirror ..running 2-3 screens away and then start killing.. Would that do anything .. Or should I kill stuff and proggres as much as i can

unkempt mica Mar 15, 2020, 2:58 PM

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if you stop dealing normal damage to them, retreat

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or risk losing 10% exp

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also no, you best stay near the wave if you want to kill things

mellow geyser Mar 15, 2020, 3:08 PM

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for drop rate changes this leauge, I wonder if they lowered them for uniques because of the ability to get several from a delirium encounter?

vast bay Mar 15, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I got 3 uniques before lvl 30.. outside of the mechanic

mellow geyser Mar 15, 2020, 3:24 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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also

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it is possible to get multiple augs to passives on jewels

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so it would be possible to get a damage, life, and armor up large cluster

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which seems like it could be really good

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 3:39 PM

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In theory should be possible

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Try fossil crafting and removing all the damage you can

fallen musk Mar 15, 2020, 3:57 PM

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How are people pricing the passive gems?

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gray ravine Mar 15, 2020, 3:59 PM

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guesswork

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price high then lower when it doesn't sell works for me...

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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could someone tell me how the "Voices" Large cluster jewel works compared ot a rare yellow one? i dont seem to understand

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Basically, if it doesn't have 2 jewel sockets then it's useless

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Voices has 1 empty node and 3 medium jewel sockets

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That's all there is to it

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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whats the point tho?

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less point spent?

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:09 PM

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More jewel sockets?

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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well maybe I havent gotten the right jewels yet or I dont know but

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for impale it doesnt seem to be very very strong?

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or can I stack +1 impales? oô

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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You can stack them

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:10 PM

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oh..

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ok

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i understand

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so you want a low number of "small passive skills that grant nothing" but a high + jewels for passive skills, right?

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and then a medium sized cluster jewel to spend even less points but with higher rewards?

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Also you usually want the minimu passives

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Like 8 small passives large jewel

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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There are exceptions like varunastra jewels

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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I see, whats the difference between a large and a medium jewel tho? thats something I dont see to understand

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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I got one with "ok" notables nothing crazy but when two of the notable are next to each other it becomes quite nice

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Yeah for narunastra you want max and 35%inc effect

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Large is generic damage like physical or elemental

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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The amount of passives they can roll and the mod pool

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Medium is more specific like damage while affected by heralds

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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can a medium jewel have deep cuts, tho?

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Idk

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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cause i find it extremly hard to find a good jewel samplesize for my impale cyclone

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I have looted like 10 large and no medium yet

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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+1 impale is what I would want

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Megalomaniac might have it

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Megalomaniac has no restriction right

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Pretty much rng notables

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Voices +3 good megalomaniacs could be hilarious , would cost an arm tho

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:16 PM

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anyone could help me with thinking what would be a good way to enjoy that cluster jewel stuff? probably go with voices and then have +3 impales from that with large jewels?

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:17 PM

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If it can roll on medium sure

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Immune to curses while channeling if you're cyclone

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:17 PM

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You can only socket medium and small into voices

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yeah as the others have said, voices gives 3 mediums sockets and the impale notable only rolls on large cluster jewels. @frigid tinsel

hasty perch Mar 15, 2020, 4:24 PM

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So only way is to triple megalomaniac

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And pay big money for deep cuts megalo

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Unless they restrict megalo to medium nodes

willow forum Mar 15, 2020, 4:25 PM

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hi there! can i socket my small cluster in a large cluster socket?

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Yes

willow forum Mar 15, 2020, 4:26 PM

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thx :)

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:26 PM

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then I dont seem to understand why I would go out of my way to get a voices cluster jewel or any cluster jewel to begin with.. seems like you have to give up around 11 skillpoints and i really have no idea how to cut it

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Then don't bother with it

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:28 PM

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but i kinda want to, everyone seems to find enjoyment or something really good in it, i lack the information or brain to understand what it is

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Golem builds want it

frigid tinsel Mar 15, 2020, 4:29 PM

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do you see why a melee cyclone impale build would want a large cluster jewel?

mellow geyser Mar 15, 2020, 4:30 PM

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you can get flat health and damage up on the same one

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Any build can find use for large clusters

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Not everyone needs voices

patent canyon Mar 15, 2020, 4:37 PM

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and since you have large allocated a lot medium and small ones becomes worth the pt investment

wispy osprey Mar 15, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Hey, got a question. Dunno if it was alrdy asked but i'm a bit confused here. I used jeweller's delirium orb on a map, did it from A to Z no mobs left and rewards are still showing on the bottom left of my screen? And we can't end it with the button on the bottom right cuz there's none..

hazy zenith Mar 15, 2020, 4:51 PM

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^ same. 0 monsters remaining, don't see a way to get the "drop"

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wet plaza Mar 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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it drops along the way

hazy zenith Mar 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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@abstract sinew you figure anything out?

wet plaza Mar 15, 2020, 4:54 PM

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every time the counter goes up

hazy zenith Mar 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Gotcha, thanks. sorry for ping akali

wet plaza Mar 15, 2020, 4:55 PM

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was a bit weirded out when every +1 dropped me a unique but i guess thats how it works 🙂

wispy osprey Mar 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Oh cool okay so we don't have the full rewards at the end thx

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Holy shit. Just trying out Redemption Sentry spectres. These things are fucking crazy.

hazy zenith Mar 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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this guy spectres

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 5:05 PM

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idk about their damage numbers as I don't have a proper setup to test them, but in terms of clear they honestly might be bettter than solar guards

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Plus they are cold damage so you get defensive bonus of freezing

silver kettle Mar 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@timid geyser have you tried out many Legion mobs yet?

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Not yet. my build is pretty scuffed so it is hard to get them while also dealing with delirium and what not. I have maybe tried like 3 of them

potent spoke Mar 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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There's like a stacking slow, right?

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I sometimes see a thing saying "You're slowed" when in Delirium

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I'm guessing Juggernaut would ignore that?

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I don't know the exact wording on the delirium debuff that slows you, but yes jugg with unstoppable should be unaffected by it.

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Another problem with my testing is I'm on a really bad setup for spectres, so while I can test if a spectre would probably have good clear I can't really check that well for single target.

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Ok I finally got to the point where delirium encounters are straight up bullshit

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How are you supposed to play around getting oneshot by explosions that have absolutely 0 warning

plucky fractal Mar 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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You're supposed to avoid the mirror

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 5:57 PM

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It was a white map with 1 delirium orb applied

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Some of the pure white scorpions which were practically invisible under the fog sometimes randomly exploded and oneshot me

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Delirium scales away quite quick

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I barely started the map >_>

elder night Mar 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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This league is so boring, feels like I'm playing standard with a grey filter and at the end I poop 2 scrolls of wisdom

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Idk, I'm enjoying getting exalts from currency deliriums

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And it's raining scarabs

elder night Mar 15, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I'm getting scrolls of wisdom and shitty rares

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same every league

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Do you even alch your maps?

elder night Mar 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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yes

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I have issues with the deliriums, but the amount of loot doesn't feel like one of them

elder night Mar 15, 2020, 6:07 PM

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oh hey wallach

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:07 PM

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hey

elder night Mar 15, 2020, 6:08 PM

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what build are you playing @wild arch ?

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:08 PM

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My only complaint is that ever since I started mapping, all the deaths felt cheap

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Archmage ball lightning

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:08 PM

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well I think the tells are clear when taken in isolation

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but there are so many happening at once usually

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the ones that trigger on-aggro really seem like a problem right now

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Got used to oneshot inmetaleague

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Hey guys Im trying to theorycraft where Voices jewels come from, I have noticed they are all i75, corrupted, and when I try and PM people where they got em from, they ignore me or troll me

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Im starting to think its obtained via means other than just "drops in simulacrum"

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Probably corrupted maps or something

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Sounds like maps at lvl75

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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T8?

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Simi should be 84 plus zone

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Is there a T8 unique map that has an effect thatll make stuff drop corrupted or something?

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Unless it scales of awlevel as well

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Are they all corrupted?

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:15 PM

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all of them

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I didn't realize voices got nerfed

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Lot of stealth changes

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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tbf it is probably a good thing

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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It would have been way too strong and you know it templarLul

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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it was super dumb as a 4 point jewel

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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it hasnt necessarily been nerfed

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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4 points of no stats

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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We may just havent seen a 4 point one drop

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theres 8 point, 9 point, etc ones

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it could just be anywhere from 4 to 10 points

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I suppose

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Voices they revealed was 4

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Its expensive to us

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E

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:17 PM

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it is kind of suspicious

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Right?

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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all 5 on DSC trade right now are ilvl 75, corrupted, 7 points

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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theres also some 5 points

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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oh I missed that one

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Maybe its a vendor recipe?

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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There is one listed with 5 passives @eager terrace

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distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Im gonna start slamming all large jewels I get with vaal orbs

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Would be nice to find a 5 linked chest right about now

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 6:20 PM

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ayy 4L gang templarthumbsup

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Wonder how it layout is how many passives can be skipped

wild arch Mar 15, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I'm just throwing around 2 4L archmage unleash ball lightnings

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Thats a 8 node jewel

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Talking specifically about the 5 passive with nothing.

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Revealed one had 1

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:24 PM

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yes we know this haha

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we are just speculating on what the 8s and 10s would look like in layout

gritty anchor Mar 15, 2020, 6:25 PM

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How do you finish a Delirium enhanced map?

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0 monsters remaining but I'm not getting the rewards

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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is the fast forward button there above your skills?

gritty anchor Mar 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Nope

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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templarLul

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@distant scarab would like too see that as wee

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I'd assume they just drop as you earn the rewards.

distant scarab Mar 15, 2020, 6:26 PM

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No loot for u

gritty anchor Mar 15, 2020, 6:27 PM

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timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I'll try one out and take a look.

gritty anchor Mar 15, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Wouldn't be GGG if something wasn't broken templarLul

storm crown Mar 15, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Want to skip as many passives as possible on it

gritty anchor Mar 15, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Backtracked all the way to beginning of map, no portal to walk through or anything to click either

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 6:28 PM

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yeah, the rewards just drop as you clear

gritty anchor Mar 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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As in, the rewards for Delirium maps are just 'Regular mob drops as if you were doing a regular map' ?

timid geyser Mar 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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As you fill up a completion the item just drops on your character similar to incubators.

eager terrace Mar 15, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I think the loot dumps immediately each tier you trip over

gritty anchor Mar 15, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Well that's underwhelming

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Feels like the Metamorph Lab filling up to the full bar but not actually giving anything for reaching that high