in these 40 mapos
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royal gale
then go check kirac
fierce plank
nothing at kirac
royal gale
then talk to zana
cerulean frost
i ran like 6 maps in that ares, like 4 different maps
next epoch
@fierce plank Something's not right. There are exactly three taunts before citadel. They follow a distinct pattern
royal gale
i'm trying to help you, you're very clearly angry that you don't understand the mechanic
i'm not trolling you
next epoch
The taunts come with specific voice lines depending on the quest state
tawny pasture
people being salty when we try to help them dont deserve to be helped
fierce plank
ok as I have level 5 awakening i surely do not undestand mechanic.. sorry my bad.. i will continue to run maps from same region over and over again and maybe it will spawn boss so i will MAYBE get watchstone and continue with quest to reach lvl 8 awakening
royal gale
yeah that's pretty much the solution
fierce plank
there is no help this is obvious bug, but thank you for reading i hope you will not get this
tawny pasture
something it will be 40 map , other time you will in 3 map
u know when the influance is on , you can farm any tier of map in that zone
next epoch
Once you have influence
cerulean frost
thats so easy then
cerulean frost
trueee
royal gale
takes like 10 minutes to do 30 maps
cerulean frost
well if the map is in that region, but non-existent in my atlas since its 4 watchstones, does it still work ?
tawny pasture
yup
cerulean frost
lmao ayt, i'll try that
thx bois
LMAO
it actually works
well then, getting 40/40 gonna be much easier than i thought
next epoch
Nobody's quite sure if it's a bug or not, but it's really helpful 🙂
cerulean frost
well a bit easier now that i know that i can run lower tiers
tawny pasture
good luck on the baran bug challenge :3
cerulean frost
not 40/40 chall i meant lol, just 40/40 atlas 😛
cerulean frost
ye
cerulean frost
lmao idk why i had 40 stuck in my head 😛
tawny pasture
cuz of the challenge maybe
next epoch
40/40 watchstones would be difficult 😉
cerulean frost
well, time for a6 sirus
dusty umbra
grrr this was such a sloppy attempt by me ; had to fight him at stairs too due to my mistakes ; still managed to kill too bad only crown but 40c one 🙂
next epoch
Also, a possibly useful observation: the order you get watchstones is not random. The game seems to try to balance out the number you have of each color
So if you (like me) have four red, four green, four blue, and three yellow, your next influence spawn will be a Drox, and will necessarily be in an area you haven't gotten his watchstone from yet
silver kettle
It's not quite that nice to you
wary smelt
it prioritizes which ever watchstone u havent gotten in a region. it's still random which u'll get
silver kettle
The conquerors spawn evenly yes, and if a conqueror whose watchstone you haven't gotten can spawn in the area they will
But you can spawn a conqueror in an area where you already have their watchstone
next epoch
Hm. Maybe I've just gotten really lucky then?
silver kettle
I wasted a whole spawn cycle by doing that without thinking
When I was at like 20 stones
wary smelt
ive wasted like 5 cycles before i found out that it spawns one of each color and that it guaranteed to spawn which ever watchstone u dont have in that region
little maple
wary smelt
good to know my nickname stil works
fierce plank
2:22 spawned green mother fucker - I run yellow map excavation than switch to red excavation map from influence
so there you go, i have found workaround I hope so...
grand dune
What's up my dudes. I'm making a tool that matches metamorph samples in your stash. Now i want to create a score system for explicits like 6-link or breachstone etc. Is there someone with a feel of the most valuable mods?
next epoch
welp, that "additional 6-link weapon" didn't quite work out the way I was hoping
tawny pasture
its a divine tho
cunning blaze
does sirus despawn from the atlas if I skip his fight?
I'm at 40% xp, I wonder if I can keep doing the atlas and get watchstones
copper kernel
Guardians wont spawn
neat rover
^
hot gyro
can someone explain ? who
copper kernel
Explain what
hot gyro
0 mobs and i cant find the map item
next epoch
zana mission incomplete + 0 monsters remain? sometimes it's on a monster that doesn't count, like statues or whatnot. sometimes it's just bugged and you're out of luck
copper kernel
Barrels and chests drop maps too
vagrant grove
What do u feel like ur missing by not completing her mission? The true reward of zana missions are the maps u get to run anyways and uve done that already
tawny pasture
Bugged
pseudo cedar
why is it so hard to spawn an influence lmao is it really 33%?
dusty umbra
@pseudo cedar have said it many times theres some magic with initial spawn
queen lodge
can you trade t he organs?
distant relic
yes ill trade u my left kidney for your left testi
tawny pasture
yeah lumin
frail kayak
Anyone have a strategy for continuing? I haven't had a conqueror influence in dozens of maps. All regions require 3 watchstones at this point.
tawny pasture
so why arent you socketing watchstone then ?
tawny pasture
are you running the tier of the map need when there is 3 socket ?
should be t10-13
frail kayak
I've tried all sorts of maps in the various regions. I was assuming I needed red maps to continue spawning them, so I've tried that when I can but I don't have red maps for those areas
tawny pasture
what map where you running ?
frail kayak
Idk, a bunch in those regions
tawny pasture
the tier*
wet plaza
hover the watchstone containers and you see what you need to get more
frail kayak
yeah, they all require 3 watchstones
but ntohing spawns. I've ran various maps from t1-t14
tawny pasture
u need to run t10-13 map on the zone with 3 watchstone
to make the influance spawn
frail kayak
I've done that a few times
but I don't have red maps for the remaining regions
theyre basically all just white maps
tawny pasture
well there is you probleme cuz u need red map
frail kayak
I mean I bought like 10 reds
still no spawns with watchstones in those areas
and Ican't sustain them myself. When I get a red its always for the 2 zones ive completed it seems
tawny pasture
u need to place the watchstone in other zone to make the zone being able to loot red map
vagrant grove
When u run thoae red maps that u already have stones from, socket into the region u need maps from, they wont drop unless on the atlas
frail kayak
Yeah I've been running maps with my watchstones in the regions I need to hit spawns, not the regions i have done
tawny pasture
for exemple , running red map in lex proxima and trying to loot red map in new vastir whit no watchstone in is impossible
your are at 12 watchstone
its suposed to be 100% spawn
arent it ?
or just the spawn is 100% but not the influance on the zone ?
frail kayak
So this is what ive been trying lately. Watchstones in the regions surrounding the 2 that are done (the bottom right regions). I run red maps that I have to try to get red maps for the other zones. The sustain has been poor. I purchased a few reds for the zones I need spawns in, and its been like 10-20 red maps with no conqueror influences
tawny pasture
remove 1 watch stone in each zone
otherwise you have to run t14-16 to make them spawn
frail kayak
Even when I tried with 3 in the zones it wasn't working out so great, but ok. I have 3 stones in 4 different zones now. gonna run some reds
tawny pasture
whatis the name of the zone you trying to get the influence ?
frail kayak
Anywhere
I just want watchstones
so I have watchstones put into the zones where I still have spawns
past citrus
hi everybody, guys, whats the black blood crap from a metamorph monster? .. is it chaos stuff? kills me fast
tawny pasture
chaos or bleed
past citrus
o ok, so dont sit around?
dire rivet
if i do maps on my atlas that i cant see due to watchstone stuff, can they still spawn conqs?
tawny pasture
if its in the zone yeah it can spawn the conq but not the influence
dire rivet
ah yeah i mean the influence ie im on the 'search areas of the atlas' part
dusty lichen
the metamorphs also spawn tiny black goo on the ground that chase you and spike explode on you, almost impossible to see sometimes
raven hawk
so I only have 3 watchstones left to gather - but sometimes when I spawn a conqueror now it doesn't drop one? Am I doing something wrong or does it just get harder to get a drop the closer you get to having all of them?
example: just killed blue / snow lady on this atlas in Valdo's Rest citadel but no stone drop
little rover
Why did my citadel disappeared on this region?
violet nymph
because drox ate it
whenever influence spawns the citadel goes away until you beat the conqueror
little rover
I imagined that happend, thanks
next epoch
only 5c? cheapskate
mild jasper
eager charm
@mild jasper I'd recommend reading the rules though
dark condor
@raven hawk Have you already obtained the stone in that region? If you hover on the left bar it shows which stones you can still get from that region
raven hawk
yea the one I am missing is green, but I guess curious why blue spawned instead
I don't recall that happening before, but maybe I was just lucky before
queen lodge
^hey is it actually boss dependend which organs they can drop or is it just luck? is there any way to get specific organs i need or is just everything rng?
royal gale
it is rng
the best thing you can do is run maps with multiple bosses
and only select the organ you need when you fight the metamorph
queen lodge
cant they drop multiple organs?
royal gale
nope
the organ you put in will be the one that drops
if you put multiple in it will be random between those
the unique organ
twin fjord
I bricked my Sirus run.. How do I get him to spawn again? Just run 3 maps in each region?
royal gale
@twin fjord depends on your number of watchstones but yes you have to respawn all 4 conquerors again
queen lodge
but i get only like 1 eye every 10 maps
royal gale
yeah people get screwed on eyes a lot
queen lodge
nice to know im not the only one
spice cipher
I started to skip morphs now unless it’s good rewards or an eye
vagrant grove
I wouldnt skip morphs, they die fast and drop sick rewards, cant see any other monster with as little time investment to spawn drop as much loot as morphs, unless maybe if ur super juicing a map and running 6 ppl...maybe...
Gotten so many exalts off morphs this league, and breachstones and lvl 4 enhance gem, so many divines and anulls
wet plaza
dunno i've gotten more exalts from random drops and no special loot from metamorphs mostly
either i am very unlucky or some very lucky
dusty umbra
+++ to faust i do em when bored
safe leaf
Ive made hundreds of chaos selling eye organs. Between 8 to 12c per, adds up quickly.
slow lake
I have done over 400 maps, and 2 chars to lvl 90 and i got 1 exalt drop
Some kind of record i guess
slender temple
I had three raw exalt before level 80 but I was in a two char party doing the story and then mapping
No exalts solo
Last league I had fifteen raw exalt drop in group and zero solo
And I did three times the maps solo as i did on group
violet nymph
so im still a little un sure, so I want to spread my stones across watchtowers?
dire rivet
is there some way to remove influence from an area? i made an area influenced with map tiers i cant possibly do...
royal gale
no unfortunately
you dont need to run the maps of the proper tier to spawn the conqueror
you can run any tier map
next epoch
and once the citadel pops, you can have zana open it, then ignore the portals and run another map if you really can't handle it
compact elm
Do we have any charts of What the modifiers from the alchemy components actually DO to the metamorph boss that we spawn?
tawny pasture
well just read what is written on ?
compact elm
well, like what exactly does "Accurate" mean?
is there a mod that makes them ignore all my dodge/evade defences? why do they seem so One-Shot-esque?
next epoch
Probably similar to the "Precise" monster mod -- https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Modifier:MonsterAccurate1
balmy copper
does anyone know when the tier level of the sirius fight gets locked in?
frank hound
not 100% sure but I believe it is when you open the instance
so when the portals spawn
blazing pond
@next epoch so they hit our character mor often ?
willow kite
what's the name of that attack that spawns exploding spiders
that run after you and basically instakill you on contact
mystic canopy
so for the mainline quest, i have 5 watchstones right now, i just keep collecting these things until i get them all?
or is there some other thing i have to do
silver kettle
pretty much. things change a bit once you get 20
but yeah just have to keep collecting and socketing
frigid holly
I used a prismatic catalyst on a resist-heavy ring (total of about 110 resists). It now shows as quality 1% (resists) but no values changed. Is this just a rounding thing and it needs 2+% for any actual changes to occur? (like if 1% qual = 1% increased resists then it wouldn't show on any value below 100 or something?)
Aldo are prismatic catalysts waaay more rare than the other types (I've only had one and have several stacks of the others)?
slow lake
Yes and yes
frigid holly
thanks
slow lake
2 catalysts=1% more res
mystic canopy
how do i unlock the watchstone altars for a new area?
i got them for the 4 outer areas, and 1 of the inner ones
or whatever they're called, the citadel things that you slot the watchstones into
next epoch
@mystic canopy run different maps in that region, you'll find them eventually
mystic canopy
does it matter what watchstones i put in when i'm trying to spawn a specific conquerer?
like when i put in more than 1
or will it always just give me one that i don't have yet?
slender temple
Game servers dying ? I got booted can't get into world I get kicked back to char select without even loading
I tried reloading to see if patch or something
Oops wrong channel
royal gale
Doesn’t matter which ones are in but you’re not guaranteed to spawn one you don’t have
It’s definitely favored though
wintry apex
If the metamorph unique drop option rolls the duplication, does it always give the same unique?
real stag
vast gazelle
@mystic canopy afaict if you have I obtained conquerors it'll prefer to spawn those
Unobtained*
balmy jackal
Is molten strike jugg a good first build this league?
tawny pasture
not really
balmy jackal
Why? Doesn’t it have good single target and survivabilityv
echo sand
As of today, I'm still not getting much in the way of eyes.
Anyone still having trouble?
empty reef
Hey there, I'm stuck with trying to accomplish these awakening bonuses. I need to complete a tier 14 wharf map.
I've socketed my watchstones in the appropriate zone
and completed a wharf map
spice cipher
Was it t14 wharf tho ?
gloomy bay
Try to run T12-14 in that area with all 4 watchstones socketed to get a T14 Wharf
violet nymph
Why is sirus fight so annoying
90% of time just run around
My build not suitable for this rofl
And m nerves neither
cobalt falcon
Is there a list preventing conq to spawn, i struggle spawn them after 28 watchstone
In specific region
It seem not known issue, but many people have this problem, maybe there is a list how to spawn them properly?
barren crescent
I'd say ms jugg is decent starter
chilly moss
I might actually need some help on this one. O.o
Courtesy of Twinned Courthouse.
Well it died
Loot was meh. 😢
runic quiver
that's a spooky amount of life
versed dock
Whats the stairs issue in the awakener fight?
velvet palm
It's an issue with stairs
sterile elbow
the stairs can block you during the maze attack
frozen cedar
Hi guys anyone using purifying flame templar for metamorph league? Can help me about the build...ls it an endgame viable build? And can i combine it with holy flame tótem? I found boring to only to totems build :/
cunning blaze
should I be combining high level organs with leftover low lvl organs?
alpine mauve
Ребята, тут хоть есть один Русский нормальный мужчина средних лет?
hexed crown
How can i constantly drop tier 14/15 map when doing doing already a t14/15 map? Wasting too much chaos for buying map
royal gale
make sure you have a good amount of atlas bonus so that your drops are on tier more often
other than that, sometimes you'll have dry streaks
hexed crown
unfortunaly for now is 91%
a guy said i've to put watchstone dependently on which map i'm doing
this work too?
dusk wharf
Is there a good guide which explains how the metamorph AI works?
How does it decide when to spawn? How many times can it spawn? How far will it chase you? etc.
I've not seen anywhere which explains in detail how they work.
barren crescent
When it spawns, when YOU click the button to spawn it at the container
dusk wharf
By spawn I mean when it spits out other monsters
barren crescent
How many times? Once per zone
spice cipher
itll chase you pretty damn far
barren crescent
Oh that
dusk wharf
It changes between using abilities, spawning and chasing
spice cipher
oh thats random , ive had some do it constantly, some once, some never, and all in-between
coarse moon
awakener orbs only preserve one influence mod per item guaranteed right?
dusk wharf
Do you get exp for the spawned creatures? I notice they sometimes drop items
barren crescent
I think its every 30% hp
spice cipher
my experience has been mostly random
ive had it not spew monsters till it was almost dead
dusk wharf
The reason I am looking for a guide is the 'unknown unknowns'. There are doubtless questions I've not thought of, but which an experienced player would recognise are important to write down.
spice cipher
there really isnt anything like that
dusk wharf
Shame 😐
spice cipher
kill monsters, plug in organs, kill morph
dusk wharf
I'm a newb or I'd try my hand at writing one myself
spice cipher
as to morph abilities just read the organs
dusk wharf
Is there a way of calculating it's health and resistances?
And do all body parts contribute stats equally?
spice cipher
no
and no
theres white/blue/yellow organs
in those tiers they may be weighted the same
res should be normal boss res or endgame boss i cant recall
dusk wharf
Okay, thanks for the info 🙂
spice bane
can the stairs issue be solved by useing atelport or tp dash like fire dash?
if it can then its not a bug its a intended trap
midnight phoenix
Not rly
next epoch
GGG staff have explicitly said the oriath stairs / meteor maze interaction is a bug and they intend to fix it
midnight phoenix
I think the only teleports that work are smoke mine and blink arrow
Nothing else has enough range
Lightning warp would too i imagine
Which is great news for both people using it
next epoch
Hey, just wanted to mention that the team is working on fixing the stairs issue in the Awakener fight. We'll try to include the fix into 3.9.2 (but it may be deployed later in a follow-up patch).
eager terrace
didn't they patch the stairs today
it was in the latest notes
"Removed the blocking terrain from the stairs in The Awakener arena."
next epoch
ah, yes, you're right
eager terrace
haven't gotten to test it myself though
jaunty hawk
anyone else having issues freezing metas still?
next epoch
I believe they said something to the effect of, metamorphs will be freezable but not easily
heavy ice
do abltiies stack like if you put in extra cold damage in one slot and the same in another will its cold damage be doubled or not?
midnight phoenix
If u are asking whether u can support the same skill gem with two added cold supports
The answer is no, u only get the higher level one
midnight phoenix
Then yes the metamorph does double added cold
U can see this if u put in double turbo
heavy ice
damn i was hoping i was wrong thats kinda scary i.i
areas reset after a while say you created a metamorpth and left it there and came back when the areas reseted would it still be there?
heavy ice
had one time where i fought a metamorpth couldnt kill it said FORGET THIS and left for a bit lol
then i found out how useful frostbomb was for it
btw thanks for the help
WYD
midnight phoenix
np gl
heavy ice
thanks
gloomy bay
Was metamorph freeze immunity a recent thing
I used a freeze character at the start of the league and was able to consistently freeze lock them
heavy ice
then prob a recent thing
next epoch
it was introduced early in the league, iirc
heavy ice
metamorphs are bascilly just a upgraded verison of the toughest boss you faced in the area though aint they
gloomy ivy
anyone know if you can sextant a region while there is influence now?
solemn fox
Anyone suggest a filter? (20 meta bosses)
fathom shuttle
silver meteor
how to make a big fat stronk++ metaboss pls in tane laboratory
i haw few parts but these are weaks
is that luck or whatever?
slow lake
Ilvl81+ parts
glass orbit
when you trade in body parts for another body part are they the ilvl of the highest or lowest part you traded in?
or the average
silver meteor
where is that trade xD
naive warren
anyone know of any new video of the new movements of the storm in the awakener fight ?
glass orbit
you just trade in three random body parts to get one of another type back
wet plaza
average ilvl iirc
dusk wharf
Are the uniques from parts fixed depending on the part?
Or is it chosen from all possible uniques at the current ilvl? (like a random drop)
tawny pasture
Random
white badge
has anybody tested the metamorph freeze stuff? does it work now?
eager terrace
haven't had time since the patch
will run some metas when I stream later today and find out how hard they are to freeze
slow lake
Feels like they doesnt freeze, atleast not with my build
coarse moon
post-sirus, i can just spam the same 2-3 maps for spawning and hunting a conqueror right?
bc i really just want all my conquerors to spawn their citadels on t16s
@white badge they can be frozen again, i just have no idea what the hit threshold is like since im just using occultist's forced freeze
violet nymph
izi Tier6 meta https://i.imgur.com/3eSR73I.jpg
knotty belfry
We are able to vendor organs now?
tawny pasture
better sold in that way lung - brain - heart to get eye or liver instead of 3 heart 3 brain 3 lung
sonic salmon
Wonder of it just re rolls the modifiers on the organs, or mixes the ones that were on the old organs
silver kettle
The patch note said random
hybrid gazelle
does metamorph organs have a reason why dark forest map is so expensive?
scenic anchor
cobalt plank
do map mods carry over into atlas missions? ie alvas temple?
tawny pasture
Noo
nimble cave
Yo i have a question, couldnt play this league. Whats metamorphs end game? Is it awakener ? Or awakener is atlas’s end game?
patent canyon
woke boy is atlas end game
metamorphs are just this combined boss every area + tanes lab "super" boss other than that there is no content from league
tawny pasture
The league end in 2 month still have time
main bobcat
Could anyone give me some guidance on how to craft a belt like this https://imgur.com/a/SFNWHI3 ?
livid lake
the flaks charges is mostly gonna be rng, but you could try to get similar using pristine and lucent fossils, on the influenced base.
alpine creek
How come the tube at the laboratory seems to have no part options?
royal gale
You need to use the parts you gathered yourself from maps @alpine creek
alpine creek
I don't use all of them, tho, but I don't see the options when I check the tube
let me check again
royal gale
You won’t see them, you need to transfer them from your inventory
royal gale
When you fight a metamorph in a zone if you fill the bar on the right and used a unique organ as one of your parts it will drop an organ you can pick up
kind violet
You have to fill the meter on the right in maps to get the metamorph boss to drop organs.
royal gale
I’m assuming you’re still low level
kind violet
Around yellow maps I found it easier to fill the bar. Sometimes in white maps even fully juiced wont fill it.
alpine creek
I am currently at a stage where if I fill the bar more than maybe a segment I am almost guaranteed to be bodied
besides I'm only on act 4
eager charm
then yea, dont worry about the one in tane's lab, just use the one he spawns in the zones
next epoch
Tane's lab is irrelevant until the epilogue
It's actually... arguably a bug that it's available before then, given that the Tane NPC in the lab will talk about events which may not have happened yet
fast flint
Does "Drops additional harbinger currency" actually do what it says? Because that'd be bizarre since harbinger currency were strictly for harbinger league, no?
next epoch
@fast flint All of the Harbinger currency items are still available as uncommon or rare drops
fast flint
so my next question is, do you think i should take that over "drops additional jewels"?
next epoch
Yes, but only because "additional jewels" is usually worthless
Keep in mind that not all Harbinger currency items are Harbinger Orbs or Ancient Orbs. 😛 Expect lots of random shards, Engineer's Orbs, Orbs of Binding...
regal pagoda
the big question i have about this league is how can skeletons drop organs 
lethal relic
And that, my friend, is the right question
wanton rivet
can i use a lower tier map to spawn a conqueror from a higher tier
wanton rivet
ugh that's annoying, ok thanks
tawny pasture
it would be tooooo easy to farm sirus
wanton rivet
gonna have to trade maps to progress my atlas 🤢
wanton rivet
ohhh thats useful
tawny pasture
like with 4 of same map , depend of the order and the map you put in , you will get tons of different offer
tawny pasture
why wasted ?
instead of one currency item
you get 2
if 2 organ have 2 line 2 currency , its 4
queen cosmos
Trading in 3 different organs for one of the other is just a 50% chance on getting one of the other two right? Or does like a liver, heart and brain always give eyes or some such?
tawny pasture
its 50/50
glad torrent
I'm having a ton of trouble spawning conquerors now... I have an area that I have zero watchstones from, and I've run about 20 (white) maps, and no conquerors are spawning
am I doing something wrong here
silver kettle
how many watchstones does it say you need socketed to spawn a conqueror there?
glad torrent
lemme check
says 4 required to spawn conqueror
so I need to socket 4 and run the maps?
silver kettle
4 in that region yes, and then you need to run maps of tiers matching the tiers of the maps shown on your atlas
tawny pasture
And run t14+ map in that zone *
lime flare
Just did a lv83 metamorph with a 6l drop eye, but the metamorph just dissappeared shortly after the fight started??Is this a bug or wtf??
eager charm
press z
lime flare
That was me toggling for all equipment dropped
Thats all the items that dropped
And not my loot filter
raven hawk
hey guys - for the Level an Awakened Gem to level 5 challenge, do you know if you can earn it by equipping a level 5 awakened gem, or you actually have to have it equipped at 4 and have it hit level 5?
livid lake
you'll have to actually level it from 4->5
you can most likely buy a level4 with max xp
fallow raptor
was watching a cutedog video where he mentioned that only "natural" tier maps can spawn the initial influence in a region, anyone messed with this to confirm? I had not heard that before
tawny pasture
you can only spawn influence in a zone with the appropriate number of socketed watchstone in and the tiered of resulted doing this
so if need 4 watchstone , only t14+ can spawn the influence
frigid holly
Is there a list anywhere of the exact modifiers that can be upgraded by a particular catalyst? ALso do those upgrades apply to crafted modifiers? (I have a ring with crafted chaos damage over time [or maybe iwas just damage over time - not at home currently to check]) and I am wondering if any of the catalysts would boost it...
nocturne anchor
fallow raptor
i'm talking about "natural" tier 14-16 maps vs non natural though
there are only so many natural 14-16 in each region
frigid holly
@nocturne anchor So far as I can se the wiki just has the same info as the text on the catalysts themselves. So things like 'attack' modifiers and 'caster' modifiers (but not precisely which modifiers fall into those categories). So for example would 'increased % damage over time' be considered a 'caster' modified (even though the DOT might have arisen from a non-spell attack)?
fallow raptor
you're talking about the initial spawn right? the one that puts the color on the atlas
fallow raptor
i havent done any testing yet, you have tried natural vs non natural tiers and had the non-natural ones spawn the initial influence?
sorry to keep re-asking, want to make sure we're talking about hte same thing
onyx idol
Does anyone know how fossils interact with catalysts? If I have 20% life/mana will that enhance odds with a pristine fossil or stay the same?
tawny pasture
it enchance
i didnt test it myself
but lot of people tell it help to get the mod aimed
twin fjord
I've ran 15 maps in this Valdo's Rest region that is green for me, and no conc proc at all. I've already bricked my Sirus once. Is this normal?
twin fjord
damn, that's a shame
pseudo kernel
Can the organ mod 'Drops a league specific unique' drop headhunter?
low kindle
Headhunter is a league specific unique
dire delta
patent canyon
all damage types
royal gale
though really you just shouldn't be getting hit at all on sirus
its kinda shaper-esque in that respect
unlike uber elder where there's a good amount of unavoidable chip damage
silver kettle
iirc sirus has no cold damage
copper kernel
nah ive seen people get freezed
silver kettle
huh
royal gale
His beam in the final phase does all 5 ailments
languid lake
vapid patio
How does one max out the metamorph bar in tane's lab? Is there a trick to it or is it completely random?
vapid patio
is that all of the organ's lvl added up?
vapid patio
ah ty
jovial sail
anyone fought a ghosted metamorph
celest hound
that sounds horrifying.
tepid belfry
What does ghosted do?
autumn scaffold
Imagine 1 metamorph shitting on you. Now add a second one. AT THE SAME TIME 😄
Basically Twinned Bosses
unreal musk
how to stop Al Hezmin from spawn vipers (for achievement)
solid kernel
try youtube
unreal musk
thanks
royal gale
Move to the middle once he starts that phase
coarse moon
alternatively, blow him up faster than he can spawn them
visual ore
weak ether
Am I missing out on anything in Metamorph? You clear a map - have a build-a-bear-boss at the end. If goop meter glows, you get an organ you can take home with you. When you have 5 different types of organs, you go to Tane's lab and do a build-a-bear-boss there as well. Good loots. Anything else I'm missing?
copper kernel
thats about it
next epoch
It's a lightweight league mechanic. The new atlas mechanics are the focus
weak ether
That's what it felt like... just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Anything special happen in the lab when the goop meter glows?
next epoch
Remember, once upon a time, Onslaught was a league
copper kernel
nope
vast gazelle
an entire league that was just "monsters have onslaught" 
copper kernel
monsters have extra desync
vast gazelle
with rares that assassinate your server connection
rapid mirage
is there and fun cheap bulids for this league
vast gazelle
yes
sonic salmon
Not exactly Metamorph, but it is 3.9 specific. I think my atlas is bugged.... Any hints on how to spawn the 21st Conqueror after killing Sirus would be handy, I've run over 100 T14-16 maps now in '4 watchstone' areas (Awakener level 5)
gloomy bay
People have recommended resetting your hideout but sounds like placebo to me
sonic salmon
yeah, that does sound like a coincidence, I'll try it though, lol
next epoch
I wouldn't doubt it, the hideout instance is involved in updating quest/atlas state
sonic salmon
I'll give it a go then, its just changing to a different hideout?
next epoch
yeah, just switch to another hideout with helena (and switch back if you want)
same trick will fix things up if your hideout gets launched in the wrong realm
or if there's someone in there who won't go away 😈
tardy light
i frequently get brains, eyes, hearts, and lungs, but i almost never get livers. is there anything i can do to get more livers?
opal sierra
You can vendor three organs to get a random new one.
slow lake
Vendor brain, heart and lung and you get eye or liver
sage oxide
so do people think this league will go core?
vast gazelle
I think it's to hard to avoid making rippy bosses/hard to see shit
If they fixed those I'd like to see it core
leaden storm
i would've liked to see some cool metamorph endgame bosses
patent canyon
i do love how they transform from harmless form to 360 one shot real quick
placid lagoon
Anyone found out what is Tane Octavius secret? About talking to the metamorph capsule and how we can achieve the result that he wants
copper kernel
not really
acoustic whale
did they patch the "white map" procking of watchstone guardians or am i unlucky with 15 maps in?
tall tapir
Hey guys, need help with understanding the new atlas mechanics. I've ran almost all the white maps and only gotten 4 watchstones. I haven't been able to get any more or even spawn the atlas bosses. What am I doing wrong?
silver kettle
@tall tapir first guess is that you're spreading out your watchstones too much. If you hover over the watchstone storage on the left of the atlas, it tells you how many you need socketed in each region to get a Conqueror in that region. You also need to run maps at the same tier they appear as on your atlas to get the first spawn, though the second and third can be any tier
IIRC for the 5th-8th watchstones specifically you also need to spawn them in the centre regions of the atlas, just like they have to be in the corners for 1-4. but I'm not 100% on that
tall tapir
I still don't get it
tall tapir
I've been running maps of the same tier but nothing has happened
and been running higher tiers, etc
languid path
what region are you running and how many stones do you have in that region?
tall tapir
I tried running glennach but gave up, now doing random maps with no luck
languid path
that doesn't help, I need basic information
so I need to know
what region are you running?
and how many stones do you have socketed?
tall tapir
https://i.imgur.com/boO8CE7.jpg Atlas as of current. I think what I'm doing right now is the Lex Proxima one, I think
tawny pasture
0 watchstone socketed
tall tapir
Aren't the colored ones watchstones?
tawny pasture
yup
they need to be in the atlas round shape thing
the square are just Place holder
they are useless when we talk about socketed watchstone
languid path
the box is just a storage
velvet palm
Put them in the citadels
velvet palm
We all be int 1 sometimes
tall tapir
true
next epoch
@placid lagoon it's implied that the sample Tane is trying to analyze is from his master, who he killed
unreal musk
How many times I need to beat Atlas Bosses before Sirus? I have 2 awakened regions and about 2-3 other stones
silver kettle
you'll first encounter Sirus after you beat each of them 5 times
candid torrent
is there any compiled list of all the metamorph organ mods?
next epoch
@candid torrent http://poedb.tw/us/Metamorph scroll down to "Metamorph Rewards /70"
candid torrent
whooaa thanks
cursive glen
do trappers and miners not benefit from the tailwind boots?
unreal musk
how to find region my map related to?
leaden storm
@cursive glen not so much because YOU don't deal the damage, the mines do
white bison
Is anyone having trouble with sustain in areas where a conqueror has spawned? It feels like map drop is bugged in general when influence is spawned, but even more so in the actual influenced maps. 135/154 45/154 Awakener 7
sonic salmon
from a very small sample, no I think its OK
spawned, you mean influence, or the actual citadel?
(generally speaking I've always done the fight if its available through Kirac)
white bison
After a single influence has taken a region, it seems like random map drops are lower in all regions, and boss drops only occur every 1/5 maps. I'm running chisel'd/alch'd t14-t16, sometimes with sextants. If I run in the particular influenced region, it doesn't seem like bosses ever drop maps. Citadels actually seem to drop maps normally.
spice cipher
nah thats your rng
next epoch
Do divine orbs remove catalyst quality?
silver kettle
only exalts, annuls, regals and augs remove catalyst quality
next epoch
ah, excellent 🙂
viral zenith
I have under 16 watchstones and ran 3 different maps with 0 watchstones since it clearly says 0 needed to spawn a conqueror and still didnt get it, what am I doing wrong?
livid lake
just keep running different maps
viral zenith
i thought it should be 100% under 16 watchstones
cursive glen
is there a way to quickly spawn sirus without spamming low level maps?
I really miss previous patches where I could just do T16s and once the influence spawns I will be able to fight uber elder in 8 maps
now i have to keep buying T16 maps in that region I'm tryign to chase the conqueror in
cursive glen
do i need to do different maps to chase a conqueror if they don't show up to taunt me?
or can i just spam one map until they taunt me
(and once they taunt me, can I continue doing that map for more taunts or I have to be taunted in a different map)
light shore
question, if hexproof is on the metamorph, are the adds the metamorph spawns hexproof as well?
patent canyon
no
sinful moon
Did I mess up my atlas I put 4 stones in Glennach Cairns now others require 3 to spawn conquerors but the others only have 1.
Is there a way to fix this?
sinful moon
it still says i neeed 3 watchstones if I put one frrom another area
tawny pasture
all zone need 3 watchstone ?
sinful moon
that is what it says
sinful moon
can't get stone for that area if can't spawn conqueor
tawny pasture
dud
sinful moon
It doesn't recognize from other area
tawny pasture
the only place they are tie , its to the square at le left and these are juste place holder for them
sinful moon
that worked thank you
sleek kelp
I've run over 50 t14+ maps in from 3 regions with no taunts and 4 stones in each. I see on the forum a lot of people are having the same problem. I've changed HO, server, relogged, run white maps then red again. Is there any known fix to this or any news from GGG?
dusty umbra
did you run every single map of those regions (experience is some maps just can't spawn influ)
sleek kelp
Ran every map in one of them
tawny pasture
not a lucky boy
runic zephyr
got my new personal record xD
analog sapphire
Does anyone know what metamorph meter does?
Other than giving an organ if boss organ is selected?
patent canyon
nothing more than that
bitter ledge
Does the map modifier have any effect on the type of metamorph sample that you get?
In other words, is there any benefit to running red maps with alching+vaaling or just run them without anything?
Please note that I am just talking about the type of samples you get, not the chance to get a sample in the first place.
bitter ledge
So, would running T14 unalched Mesa maps be the best way to get the metamorph samples?
As a bonus, you can also get master missions 😛
tawny pasture
if you want pure sample only , yeah mesa is a good one
bitter ledge
Also, can you use Horizon orbs to force all of the other T14 maps to become Mesa maps as well if you remove the watchstones?
Or are there any other good linear maps which can be done in a short time?
Isn't Tropical Island quite linear?
bitter ledge
Glacier can also be ran quite quickly, but the only real issue is that the boss takes forever to spawn.
tawny pasture
try and see what you like the most
gritty zephyr
How the hell do I get metamorph samples to Tane's Laboratory? All of the samples from a certain area are automatically collected and valid only for that area and I can't get them into my inventory from the sample tab either
eternal laurel
Did they change the spawn rate of the conquerors? I'm at least 100 maps in since i got one in an area now... T8 Awakener, running only T14-16 maps
tawny pasture
@gritty zephyr jack , you get part for thane only when you put a boss organe ( unique ) in the recipe and the gage is full ( it glow )
no change have been mad edell
eternal laurel
sigh, but this has got to be well above average right? normally it only take me 10-20 maps max
tawny pasture
just unlocky this thime
placid lagoon
Just went on cortex (zana mission) and all thing is just unfair or i don't know. Died all the times for the infinite black holes that appear on the arena. My build don't do much damage so it's slow and steady, many black holes appeared. Died in the last boss with my last portal and extremely angry cause of those INFINITE black holes on the floor. Is it a mechanic to get rid of those or just kill the boss fast as you can? If so, i'll need to pay someone next time damm
Not fair mechanic at all
tawny pasture
learn to dodge mecanic
placid lagoon
Can't dodge something that is fixed on the ground
tawny pasture
yeah , you can just dont go on it
placid lagoon
It just appear on all the arena, don't even have a clear spot to step and that thing kill you in instants
unreal musk
Does map level affect chance of boss spawn? i e I have tier5 map, but boss "needs 3 stones" which means tier 11 map on the Atlas
if I activate low-level map of higl-level region, boss gonna spawn?
eager charm
yes
night niche
There a way to fix getting stuck in sirus walls?
unreal musk
does moving boss stones affect chances? i e I have 3 maps for different regions - I insert stones in region 1 and clear map, them I move stones to region 2 and clear map and continue?
night niche
Lost 2 times because of this making me want to quit everytime it happens
unreal musk
So I can move stones freely to have chances on every map I clear? nothing like "resettin boss chance to zero" or something?
eager charm
idk about resetting chances but I know it doesnt improve chances
unreal musk
I have 11 watchstones rn but running on t11-t12-t13
fully Awaken 2 regions and place 3 stones to one region to spawn bosses
OR
scatter stones all around the atlas to have more regions available for boss spawn?
?
also, boss spawn is guaranteed if running watchstones-influenced region map for N times? or they're fixed like "You dont know yet, but Drox on Lex Proxima t10+ maps and nowhere else"
fleet stream
What map tier are you starting to constantly fill the metamorph bar?
violet nymph
i'd say t6+
violet nymph
Just a question about this league
Its the metamorph lab and thats all ?
No other content or purpose ?
Just the lab and thats it ?
spice cipher
Yes
violet nymph
Thats cheap
Wtf
I thought at least theres some kind of metamorph boss or bigger lab or something
Or maybe a purpose
But looks like no xD
violet nymph
I get it but new atlas doesnt seem to provide too much end game content
Except a boss spawning randomly every 25 map
0.0
patent canyon
yeah but thats still atlas revamp and more eng game content that past 5 leagues or so
violet nymph
I havent played since 2017 or so
So idk
I just dont understand why they didnt push metamorphs the idea is so good
And would been easy to push it
With bigger lab , bigger metamorphs
Upgrade path for lab and so on
Make it like a hugely scaling boss crafting where u can create iinsane boss which drops insane loot
Or 3 at same time , whatever
Such a missed opportunity
Conquerors and sirus on other hand doesnt feel challenging at all
All 5fights are extremely easy to do
spice cipher
This is true but we got what we got
violet nymph
No chlallenge in it
yea well i havr fun in it
But i hd the inpression there is more
Seems like not xd
spice cipher
Nope
patent canyon
yeah its just a filler league with expansion
worldly garnet
currency, fragments, catalyst as choices, which one do you pick? (in a map)
slender temple
Catalyst imho
frigid holly
At what point does the awakening level of your atlas determine the level of Sirrus encounter you'll get? Is it:
- When you kill the last conqueror to trigger the avaiulability of a Sirrus mission;
- When you request the Sirrus portal from Zana; or
- When you enter the citadel
spice cipher
when you open it via zana
celest tiger
Is there a list of ways you can unbrick your atlas? I've ran like 40 maps all over the atlas without spawning any influence
i'm probably around 29ish stones out of 36, but fully awakened the atlas via ivory watchstones
been running exclusively t14-t16s
spice cipher
@celest tiger just map in one region with the right amount of stones
mapping all over the atlas is gonna take a lot longer than focusing one region
celest tiger
i've done about 10 maps in one region without spawning it
then tried spreading it out incase that one region was bricked
really not sure what i'm missing :\
celest tiger
yep tried that too
spice cipher
10 maps is legit nothing too
celest tiger
if it's really 33% to spawn, 10 maps is 1.5% chance to not spawn anything
i guess i could do more
but i don't really see why doing maps in one region makes a big difference
spice cipher
its not really 33%
cuz you have a higher chance to spawn?
they only spawn per region so spreading the maps around only hurts you
cuz if you only do 1-2 maps per region , thats not a lot of chances for a spawn
im only telling you what has worked for me if you want to focus conq spawning
celest tiger
right but i'm not getting any influence at all
once i get the influence it's pretty easy to get a conqueror
but im not seeing any influence spawn at all
spice cipher
do more maps
celest tiger
which is why I thought spreading maps around wouldn't really matter too much
celest tiger
maybe im misunderstanding, but why does in the same region matter? wouldn't it be a 33% chance to spawn in any region since i have 0 influence in the atlas?
spice cipher
they spawn per region
idk dude , the only answers are change hideout and run more maps
you cant really brick the atlas
i get faster spawns focusing on regions, idk about anyone else
native gulch
Once you have all your watchstones, is there a reason to run multiple regions? Or could you effectively just spawn conquerors over and over chaining the same region?
spice cipher
Doubtful unless you manipulate the atlas to drop a region only
native gulch
But if you theoretically had a ton of maps for the same region, there's no reason to branch out? You can still spawn conqueror's over and over in the same region?
tepid belfry
Ran over 15 t15 maps these past few hours and no conq proc, sad times
tacit shore
sometimes it legit feels like you're all lying, i have no issues whatsoever spawning them. got 2 up today leveling from 79 to 81
maybe like you had an unique watchstone and it ran out and you forgot to put a new one in?
tawny pasture
spawning conqueror before and after 20 stone is not the same stroy
vague glen
is it possible to combine metamorph organs into a new organ?
spice cipher
Yes 3 of any kind to get a random organ
Well not random but one of the organs not used
gloomy bay
Does anyone feel like Conquerer taunt chance is tied to IIQ of a map or is this just placebo
hushed sequoia
If you have conq influence in region A can you spawn a diff conq in region B? Or is it lower chance?
tawny pasture
you can
grave wadi
im just missing the blue stone in one of my regions and i cant get the conq to spawn
short kite
so how do the metamorph part attributes work in contributing to what will drop from the metamorph?
like if i want to prioritize currency, do i pick the part that has the most repeated currency attributes, the least number of total attributes which includes currency, etc
like do more attributes on one part mean that each individual thing has a lower chance to drop? or does it mean that each thing has an equal chance to drop? or does that mean all of them drop
for example
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midnight phoenix
Each currency line gives u 1 roll at a bunch of currency
Etc
More lines more currency total
A 5 line currency organ will give u, on average, best I can tell, 5 times as much currency as a 1 line currency organ
Not exactly since the base metamorph also drops loot
But thats the ballpark
short kite
i see okay
so each attribute means "a drop of (this) thats additional to the current metamorphs loot"
so if i have currency and jewelry on the same part, that means that i'll get one currency drop and one jewelry drop?
or like that part will contribute those two drops to the metamorph's drop pool
rather than it rolls a dice for each organ and picks a drop type from the list of attributes
delicate crag
Anyone know the % to spawn influence when running maps? i did around 50 maps yesterday and only got 1 spawn.
cunning blaze
30%
so 1 in 50 is quite possibly wrong map choice
you need to change zones etc
btw I got the opposite this morning, got influence and did white maps, got the citadel right after
I thought they'd increaesd the spawn of taunts
delicate crag
Im missing 7 watchstones to have them all, all 50 maps i did where T14-16's, they where rare and no master missions where used while running them.
violet nymph
I think i just failed Baran's "don't step in squares" 10 seconds after defeating him. feels bad man xd
hexed crown
Can someone help me? (have question about map)
grave wadi
Im so confused its day 3 of no conq spawn even tho i've got the watchstones in the right regions, running the highest maps from the regions im so confused as to what to do
eager charm
Are you running different maps
quaint magnet
do you actually need 4 socketed watchstones? how many did you aquire so far? @grave wadi
if you hover over the watchstone stash on the map you should see an info as to how many watchstones you need to socket in that area (and as such what tier of map to run)
grave wadi
So i figured out what i was doing wrong and its so stupid that i didnt see it, i forget to do one corner of my atlas
buoyant lichen
Yall is there a cooldown between sirus fights? I can't get any conquerors to spawn since like 15 mins of running different maps
hushed copper
@grave wadi - I've had that cycle before. Honestly, I just start at highest tier for X region and run one instance of every map, working my way down tiers. I've seen some posts suggesting there is some specific map it's waiting for you to run to spawn it, but that may just be superstition.
In any case, I had better luck once I tried working my way backward systematically.
grave wadi
i ended up scouring google and everything then just took a look at my atlas to find i didnt do one of my corners
grave wadi
so i hadnt done any maps in the bottom left of my atlas so i'd wasted 3 days of red maps and yellows then figured out the reason why
hushed copper
So the one map it picked for you to do was one you didn't have?
delicate crag
In my last 75 maps ive got 1 spawn, i even have influence in 1 section, but 10 maps later in that region i still get no spawn.. I think its screwed up for me somehow. I have tried to change out all the stones and fill them up again and ive swapped hideout more then once
oblique horizon
Is there a minimum awakening level for conquerors to taunt you after your first sirus?
royal gale
no there's just a required number of watchstones socketed, you can see the amount if you hover over the storage on the left side of the atlas
oblique horizon
ok thanks. i'll keep 4 stones in the maps i run. that should do it right
royal gale
yep just make sure you're running t14-t16 if you have 4 in
oblique stone
I disliked needing specific maps to move elder/shaper influence around, but damn if you weren't always getting to run influenced maps.
storm crown
running through yellow corrupted t15 map taking no damage only to get oneshoted by the metamorph. Good times.
spice cipher
Makes sense
storm crown
have feeling as good loot as they give it will kill ya
vapid patio
So if there are more than 1 unique organ in the metamorph how does it determine which organ will drop? Or is it random?
silver kettle
Seems to be random
vapid patio
fml
is there a reason why i can't seem to fill up the metamorph bar on some maps?
like the organs don't always max out the bar only leaving like 1% till full
coral garden
Do higher tier maps
quaint magnet
some maps dont have a unique organ (Pier i think? or was is warf?) cause their unique boss doesnt drop one (the unraveling horror thing for example)
on others it will be beacue youre trying to use white organs in your mix
you usually need at least Orange + yellow +3 blue
and without the orange one you will most likely never fill the bar
@vapid patio
vapid patio
ah cool thankies
storm crown
Also think you need to make the map harder.
supple falcon
eternal laurel
ok i checked a few days ago when i had run 100+ maps without seeing any conquerors. Since then I have sequentially run every single map on my atlas, so at this point I am over 200 maps deep since i last spawned conq influence..
confirmed i am A8, all maps have been done at the correct tier
this has got to be bugged right?
sonic salmon
I've had clear 100 maps runs previously.. 'Seems' better since the last patch, but that could be coincidence/placebo/shit luck passing to someone else (you)
eternal laurel
well thats what i thought after 100, since then i ran every single map in order and still nothing
storm crown
do you hafve all the orbs or?
dont have all the orbs but have been able to spawn the conquers really quick
next epoch
Spawning conquerors is pretty quick up until you first encounter Sirus after gathering 20 stones. After that, it slows down and involves a lot more RNG
quaint magnet
@next epoch while that is true, so far (3 awaken 8 sirus kills) it has never taken me more than 50 maps to spawn all 12 influences required for the next sirus fight
hexed crown
how to unlock legion on map device?
languid path
140 maps
vapid agate
hexed crown
ty
frank hound
it's not random
there is an exact number of completion, had it at the start of the league but I forgot what it is exactly now
over 120 in any case
hushed sequoia
Does the new patch prevent conqs spawning at white maps? Would be a huge downer
next epoch
@frank hound I'm pretty certain it's based on percentage completion. I got my Beyond mod at 124 completion (80% of 154, rounded up). If I had to guess, I'd say that Legion should pop at 139 (90% rounded up)
next epoch
@frank hound It's definitely not 125. Like I just said, I got Beyond (the one before Legion) at 124
next epoch
139 would make the most sense then, since that's a clean percentage of 154.
spice cipher
I also checked at 140 and it was there so yeah that sounds right
fading glen
Hi all, got a question. There's a Hunter mod + an annointment that both have the same effect: Strike skills +1 additional target. My question is: will they stack? Running Molten Strike and I'm looking to max this out
compact junco
yes they stack
fading glen
Thanks
short basalt
how to unlock 5th slot for map device
opal sierra
@short basalt put 4 legion emblems in the map device. Finnish the encounter and voila.
frigid holly
Last night I had my first conqueror encounter AFTER the first time I faced Sirus (and failed that encounter). After killing him (Baran) he failed to drop a watchstone, which every previous conqueror kill did drop. Is it the case that I will be unable to gt any more wtachstones until I successfully kill Sirus? (I think I have 23-25 currently - cannot recall exact count)
violet nymph
nope
quaint magnet
you should have 20 rn
violet nymph
watchstones aren't confirmed after the sirus encounter, i.e. after 20 watchstones
i've only gotten 2 after like 5 conquerors
quaint magnet
and only conquerors in regions where you havent dropped their specific watchstone will drop one
conquerors will ALWAYS drop a watchstone IF you dont have the specific watchstone in the region
I.e. Baran's (red) watchstone in New Vastir
hover over the squares on the left to see where you didnt spawn a specific conqueror yet
it also tells you how many socketed watchstones you need in the region to spawn the conqueror
royal gale
yeah they are guaranteed if you spawn them correctly
and they are weighted towards spawning the ones you don't have
just need to be smart about it
frigid holly
ok, thanks
gloomy ivy
can you spawn influence with ivory watchstones? i noticed that i never spawn influence unless im using the regualr watchstoness. anyone else have a different experience?
delicate parrot
Is there a specific way of knowing what reward will the monster give before killing it? (as in currency/unique/etc)
graceful plank
the game tells you?
or do you mean the monster that drops an organ, not the metamorph?
hushed sequoia
how do I get cortex / guardian maps drop? just t16 maps? or zana only?
sold by zana*
copper kernel
missions by zana in t15+
vast gazelle
They have a small chance of dropping off of high tier boss kills with awakening levels
vast gazelle
And missions by zana and sold by her
copper kernel
probably 15+
hushed sequoia
k ty
gloomy bay
14+ for Synth and Guardian maps
runic zephyr
can someone tell me why some meta organs show specific stuff like chaos for currency, or ring for jewlerey, and some only show a chest
like is there actually a difference in loot or just another icon
dark condor
Chaos is always currency, same for rings and so ln, but chest can contain different things
peak chasm
so if you annoint 5 items with aspect of stone which grants 20% chance to avoid physical damage from hits is it 100% or 5 chances of 20%
peak chasm
ah i forget that
next epoch
Also, the only way you'd get five anointments would be full Blight unique gear, which will be basically impossible to get usable resists on
lucid stone
Is there any build that would use full blight gear?
next epoch
I don't think so. The Cowls (of the Thermophile, etc) cap one resist at the expense of making the other two much harder to cap. You end up needing basically perfect resist gear in every other slot
Like, if you have the best possible roll on Cowl of the Thermophile (50% reduced cold/lightning resistance) and Breathstealer (+16% all res), and a perfect (+48%) cold/lightning resist in every jewelry slot with cold/lightning two-stone rings, you still only end up 15% over cap on cold and lightning.
vast gazelle
cowl is really the bottom tier blight unique
stampede and breathstealer are at least fine/usable
and sporeguard is solid in a bunch of builds
silver kettle
I think cowl gets a bit of an unfairly bad rap
double anoint is a big fucking deal
it's just hard to use
silver kettle
yeah
it is pretty harsh, I'll admit
but you can get more out of the double anoint than you lose in suffixes taken up with res
vast gazelle
i guess i also dislike it because you cant get inc max res
well, it wont do anything anyway
midnight phoenix
i dont mind it on chief specificially
cos u will be capped fire res with chief even with the penalty
the biggest issue is it kind of paints u into a corner
cos if u later have more money and want a helmet upgrade u have to replace all ur gear
vapid patio
what's the purpose of the boxes on the left side of the atlas?
silver kettle
storage for watchstones you don't want active right now
vapid patio
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but I can't seem to spawn conquerors ever since I beat Hezmin a second time.
Atlas pic for reference
tawny pasture
did you look how many watchstone you need in a area to be able to make them spam ?
and are you farming the good tier of map needed to make them spam ?
@vapid patio
vapid patio
if leyline is t10 when i socket the watchstone if I run a lower tier leyline does that mean conqueror influence won't have a chance to spawn?
tawny pasture
yeah
vapid patio
fml i need to upgrade all my maps then.
tawny pasture
you can do it step by step
farm area with 1 or 2 socketed watchstone depend on how many is needed to make them spam
then put 2-3 stone then 3-4 then 4 and at the end all area wil be 4 stone and tier 14-16
when you hover the square at left with your mouse , it tell you what is needed where And Stone arent tie to specific region you can put any stone in any tower
vapid patio
oh ok. Ty for the info
vapid patio
Do awakened support gems have drop conditions or just really really rare
midnight phoenix
Other than sirus/conquerors only?
harsh wagon
Give him one of each organ
tepid crest
how to get organs tho
vapid patio
kill map metamorphs that you made with the map boss organ
tepid crest
aah
vapid patio
you'll need to make sure the metamorph bar is maxed out to get the organ tho
lyric ore
what happens if you max the lab bar
eager charm
You get a powerful metamorph
lyric ore
does it drop anything special though?
spice cipher
No
next epoch
Update to an older discussion: I got the Legion map device option at 137 bonus objectives (88.9%). So earlier than I thought it would be
hushed sequoia
Are elder/shaper scarabs useful at all? I cant think of a situation i wouldnt want conq spawn instead
midnight phoenix
Its for base farming more than anything else
naive forum
are conqueror taunts no longer guaranteed after 20 watch stones? I have influence, but I'm not getting the taunts.
silver kettle
right. once you encounter sirus they become rng
hushed sequoia
Welcome to the struggle
cursive glen
I literally leveled up from 93 to 94 between sirus spawns
And I do different red maps every time
midnight phoenix
93 to 94 is like 20 t16s if u dont die tho
light shore
is there somewhere with a full list of metamorph abilities to skip
midnight phoenix
other than boss abilities, of which there are many, my personal skip list is:
anything caustic (if not CI)
anything barrage
anything with the word soul in it
suppressing fire
volatile spawn
snake pit
most of those are projectile mods so u absolutely dont do them ever if theres +2 projectile with dmg mods
i wont always skip all of these if the reward node is spicy but if i die its my own stupid fault
vapid patio
do socketed waystones influence which of the four conquerors can spawn in a particular region?
ex:I have blue and yellow socketed in Glennarch Cairns does this mean that Baran (red) and Hezmin (green) are the only one that can spawn in that region?
tawny pasture
Nop
vapid patio
well shit.
vapid patio
are the drop rules for maps still the same?