Anyone else have the bug/issue or whatever it is where you have influence spawned, you have encounter a watcher twice already (in my case) and now after running, white yellow and red maps of that region The watcher just wont appear again? I tried the hideout switch thing but nothing? Trying to get my 19th stone but nothing?
#1┃mirage-league
river rune
jaunty wadi
U need to run tier 14+ maps in that region (the region has to have 4 watchstones socketed) @river rune
river rune
@jaunty wadi I have, I even went a got the uncompleted maps and ran those of the respective tier but still nothing
decided to run each map (of tier 14+) in that region and nothing
river rune
so even if you have influence in that area, its RNG based if they will trigger?
jaunty wadi
Ya
river rune
dam xD I just need him to appear once more >.<
river rune
Must say, map drops do feel a tad less than last league, unless thats just me xD
thanks tho mate:)
jaunty wadi
Seems fine for me, make sure your two bonuses are as high as possible
And like, leave only two regions with 4 watchstones
Rest ubsocketed
river rune
oh snap i havent even touched watcher bonus>.< well then a nub move on my part
oh really? You find that improves maps and watcher spawns?
jaunty wadi
So u would only drop maps of the region u r running now and the maps from the region u gonna run next
river rune
ah i see 😄
jaunty wadi
Well not sure if it helps but it does give u more maps to run
river rune
fantastic 🙂 Thank you friend:)
jaunty wadi
Np
river rune
LAst question, must we or must we not run a master mission if we trying to spawn a watcher
jaunty wadi
And not sure if u noticed, but when u hover over the sockets for watchstones (on the left) it will tell u if u have acquired all watchstones from that region
I did
Should be fine
river rune
Yeah, noticed that:)
jaunty wadi
Took me a bit to realize why my watchers didn’t drop the stones lol
river rune
xD yeah, atleast the ones spawned now (red and green) i havent gotten from that region but my map learned the hard way xD
toxic coral
any1 know if i can fix the sirius air bug?
spiral sierra
Uhh i killed a metamorph in Tane's Lab and it didn't drop anything? Is it because i died?
cinder leaf
TIL, use lockstep for sirus fight(for players with shitty internet) I was clearly walking in between storms but was getting DoT'd for some reason
sirus was firing lasers where I was nowhere near, which at first you'd think is a good thing but if you think about it. I might actually be where he's firing at in the server's perspective
just desync in general
storm iron
does filling up the juice bar in tane's lab do anything special?
void thicket
Did they shadownerf metamorph rewards or is it just me
I was getting like 3-4 rusted scarabs when I was doing T1/T2 maps but now I only get to choose between currency and rares, and even if I fully juice it up with several unique organs (in maps I mean) it just feels ... bad
red wharf
how are maps selected for conqueror arenas? Is it random tier inside region, or does e.g. average tiers of maps played in region before Kirac pinpoints conq's arena?
I'm getting plenty of T14 conq arenas instead preferable T16
ornate belfry
Guys to get influence in an area is there a way to guarantee it? I've done 8 maps now and I have not gotten influene in an area.
hexed vale
I am dropping 0 (zero, nada) eye parts from the Metamorph fights. I have 10+ of all the other 4 parts, but no eyes. Is this supposed to be like this?
wary smelt
lmao 2338-7014 damage from these conquerors mobs
barren crescent
Trigonometry
is that the triple small circles?
or what
oh wait thats normal influence mob
now slap some 200% extra dmg + crit
violet nymph
Calculate res and reduced damage though
wary smelt
icy void
how viable are they as Slave Driver replacements?
vast gazelle
theyd be excellent if they could be raised
icy void
ooh you can't get them? too bad
ornate belfry
if a region is level 4 to get influence i have to do the highest tier maps only? or can i just have 4 sockets there but do a tier 12 instead of tier 15 version and have chance to get influence anyways?
wary smelt
if they could be raised they would be so op
slender temple
Yeah first thing I did was check that after I saw them in action. Oh well maybe they forgot to flag one of the influence mobs I'll keep checking them all
I like how they included some situationally op spectres but can't descrate them back
Constructs and citizens for example. Haven't found a good use for citizens yet tho
They auto flee no matter what you do
Constructs are nice as early game 575% life minions for culling on non minion builds
cerulean halo
I just killed a guardian and he didnt drop the watchstone?
livid lake
most likely already killed the guardian for that sector and got the watchstone previously
grand dune
so you can keep spawning sirius
wary smelt
you didnt understand the mechanic
wary smelt
mouse over it
sudden sigil
can someone help me with these confusing ass metamorph atlas mechanics?
if I need watchstones, and I mouse over the area on the left and it says "need 2 to spawn conqueror" blah blah. and I put 2 stones in that area... do I have to run maps until I get the higher level upgraded maps to run for that area until I will see a conqueror?
sudden sigil
I can just run the maps in that area over again, regardless of the level the map is?
vast gazelle
It will always be at the level of whatever map the citadel is when you finally get the conquerors thought
sudden sigil
naa
vast gazelle
Yes
sudden sigil
I have tier 2 peninsulas, and tier 5s. and I just put 2 stones in and now it's a tier 9 map
which I don't have any of
cerulean halo
Its not 100% complicated but there could really be some more tooltips
velvet palm
JusT GiVE uS exaLTs
sudden sigil
it's hands down more complicated than it's ever been in any of hte leagues i've played before
seems that way starting into it anyway
sudden sigil
yea this doesn't work fyi. 8 maps in a row no sign of any conq
must be the higher lvl are required
strange yew
can more than 1 person go into the same tanes lab?
slender temple
@wary smelt jynxed juju Hmm nice idea I may get one for jugg2. It's basically flat 10% damage reduc nice. Also the wo blaster build ha. I wonder how pricey arakaali fangs are atm
solemn fox
Looking for someone that can kill Sirus, NA
violet nymph
Can anyone tell me why Sirus won't spawn?
This is my atlas currently: https://i.imgur.com/SAPi1ze.jpg
glacial warren
Anyone want a sirus kill ? Awake lvl 5
solemn fox
@violet nymph You need 20 watchstone. 16 was a bug at the start of the league
covert maple
ey i'm having trouble getting more watchstones
i have 20, i have 5 zones with 4 stones
and i can't get any influences to pop
no matter how much i run in these areas
does doing zana missions screw things up?
dusty umbra
@covert maple it's possible u already got all stones from those zones
mouse over on left squares for those zones to see how many obtained from that zone(-s)
covert maple
yeah i have no stones in the zones i have all obtained from
haewark hamlet i have 3 unobtained and iv'e run like 8 maps in a row there and no pop
guess just bad luck
cold badger
tirn's end was blue but not anymore after i killed map boss?
how i progress watch stone
storm veldt
Can anyone help with the fckin atlas shit
im absolutely lost
ive got like so many different tiers of maps
and i dunno how to spawn shit
timber hornet
@covert maple at 20 I popped the Awakener fight. I think you have to finish it to get influence again.
eternal laurel
i just spawned Sirus, im kinda confused he is just floating in the sky immune. Do i need to do something to make him come down and fight?
eternal laurel
yea im literally standing right underneath him
sometimes he attacks though
but just floats there
cold badger
i got 15 watch stones but not getting inffulense anywhere??
covert maple
@timber hornet yeah i fought him once (failed miserably) and that was yesterday 😕
eternal laurel
well that was an awesome first experience of final boss, love it
steel gull
fuck I finally figured out how to do hunter's defeat conqs conditionally
I thought you had to stay still to not spawn the tunneling vipers
coarse moon
the only annoying one of that batch of challenges is baran's tbh\
steel gull
so I just stood still and tried to tank his shots
slender temple
Baran is easy
Hunter is a resistance test.
Eagle girl is easy too just don't wander into wind
Drox is easy if you have minions
void thicket
still no news on the organ vendor recipe?
copper kernel
What vendor recipe
low kindle
They promised one
red wharf
I have dilemna, got question to anyone around 95lvl, what do you do with decision whether to level up safe to next level (pretty much avoiding tougher bosses such as awakener/guardians/elder/shaper) or to keep trying beating bosses just to keep, er, flow of game? (such as spawned awakener blocks spawning conquerors, meaning less additional mobs, less xp, less loot, less stones/influenced bases etc.)? Seems between spawned awakeners, I get around 10-20% of xp, maybe a bit more, on way to 96lvl
hexed vale
Is it me or the Watchstone altars disappear from the Atlas sometimes?
red wharf
conqueror influence hides it, after retaking it back, it can reposition to new spot on atlas, including edges of atlas
hexed vale
ahh, good to know
so what do I need to do to remove the influence and unhide the watchstone sockets?
covert maple
Yo this is really frustrating... I've been trying all day to get watchstone #21.. i have 4 stones in all the regions where i have obtainable stones..
and i get drox to pop.. but in a region where only baran stone is available
super annoying
livid lake
originally implemented as an overflow for #1┃general, but a greater focus on the current league rather than the game itself.
rapid ibex
@covert maple I think I got the same problem dont know how to fix it
upbeat marsh
Just wondering, has the lack of eyes been patched or is it still happening?
rapid ibex
@covert maple did u find a fix or a work around for that issue?
runic zephyr
is there a way of knowing in advance what mods the boss organ is gonna have?
i imagine its just the mods from the small organs combined?
@livid lake btw shouldnt there be a channel for new atlas discussion, because this channel should just be focused on the league mechanic and not on the new atlas right...?
livid lake
both channels can fit that purpose
lost viper
Hmm I wonder if this is the right channel to talk about an atlas mechanic
lost viper
So I noticed that upon map activation the region the map belongs to (during a conquorer influence) changes. Here is a few screenshots that demonstrates this https://imgur.com/a/D7vt3oA
Has anyone else noticed this?
cyan summit
hover on citadel, it says that adding watchstones "reveals hidden maps"
they're what you're seeing
limpid wigeon
i dont think thats what he's seeing
he cant modify the watchstones while it is influenced
cyan summit
ah, i see now
lost viper
There are already 4 watchstones in so all hidden maps are revealed in that zone
This is something new they added thats gone unoticed, Im just trying to figure out the purpose of it
round grail
Guys, I want to do Sirus lower tier lvl, BUT on my atlas it say " Require 4 watchstone to spawn conquerors", How can I do ?
left patio
2 monsters remain, 6 organs to go. 
wellp. found those two monsters, no organs in either of em. so i now have 6 missing organs and 0 monsters in the area. cool.
violet nymph
There are some contexts where monsters add themselves to the count once you activate them
formal crypt
Can you farm influenced items of a particular conqueror by not fighting them and just keep doing maps in their region?
red wharf
is conqueror citadel tier random in region, or? Seems im getting a lot of t14, instead t15-16
void thicket
do we know sirus' (or the conquerors') elemental resistances?
patent canyon
violet nymph
Apparently sirus' resistances start low and go up as the fight progresses?
woeful carbon
in the new atlas if i dont have watchstones socketed higher tier map drops get canceled, what if i socket the 4 watch stones does that remove all restrictions? or do i have to socket stones so that it matches the map tier that i have?
patent canyon
maps visable on atlas can drop, drop restrictions still remain, white +0, magic/rare +1, boss +2 of the tier you run
raw locust
Stupid question, but after getting the individual conqueror questlines complete and the first 20 watchstones, I can't get any additional conquerors to spawn. I'm running maps in the right zones with 4 watchstones socketed, but after ~20 maps, I still haven't seen one pop in. Did the spawn rate just go to shit, or have i messed something up?
wet plaza
spawn rate is severly reduced after the first 20 iirc
topaz hill
Im doing in a specific order and its working for me, external areas then internal area, following anti-clockwise
raw locust
for watchstones 21+, and how may maps to see influence?
raw locust
Update: I think my issue is fixed. Helpful forum post here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2693832
marble thicket
Can anyone tell me how to initiate a second Sirius fight? Been looking everywhere and cannot seem to find any information. I assumed i would just have to fight another conqueror at L4 awakening to proc another, which i did but nothing?
sharp gulch
Do all the conquerors again
marble thicket
Ah right all 4 again, thanks 🙂
floral valley
Is chaos res very important for Sirus?
violet nymph
Yes
All resistances are important for him, as among all his moves all elements are used
As in, all of his moves are phys and an element
And there are moves that do fire, cold, lightning, and chaos
lofty canyon
is there any stashes where the watchstones go?
i should have my 6th awakening level now, but i cant find my last cobalt watchstone
red wharf
@lofty canyon stones are stored on vertical shelf on atlas on left, if there are no stones, ask zana
past obsidian
Can someone tell me how to deal with the storms
Like how do I get sirus to push them away
limpid wigeon
ive seen people log out after baiting them to an edge or something
honestly im just not going to run the fight again until he's fixed
past obsidian
I want to know how to get them blown away
languid path
sirus push the storms away when you aggo him by being directly under him
limpid wigeon
what if he goes aggro on top of a storm
languid path
then the storm will be pushed awayu
so either pull the storm away then circle back to sirus
past obsidian
What do you do with the storm he spawns?
languid path
or wait for sirus to move out of the storm
then run to him to aggro
I usually pull the first 2 storms up the to the staircase top left
then run to the right to circle back to him
pull the 3rd storm bottom then run up and circle back
limpid wigeon
what a stupid bossfight
languid path
that should be all of them, he sometimes spawn a 4th storms if you don't have enough dmg to push phases
anyway it's easier to look at the fights on yoututbe to see where the storms can be pulled
languid path
you can also wait in the bottom left corner, the storm doesn't chase you if you stay like a screen away from it
and sirus will naturally move toward that way
then you can run to him to aggro
languid path
I don't like that strat too much 'cause it pushes 2 storms toward the entrance which could block your way back if you die
and it also pulls the arena up to the stairs, which is a pretty bad place to fight him
past obsidian
Alright
civic wyvern
ok, so i've ran like 15 maps in this influenced zone but the elderslayer wont spawn
is it because I already have the stone from that zone?
cosmic tinsel
can i have some eyes please
violet nymph
"ew" lol
slender temple
I get eyes but no livers
cosmic tinsel
ill trade you livers for eyes
errant garden
ive been wondering but are those samples from maps? still grasping the fine details
violet nymph
Yes
cosmic tinsel
if you fill meter to full it will drop a part
errant garden
ah interesting, im guessing full rares/unique parts are needed for a full gauge
ripe sorrel
are the challenges bugged for conquerors?
raw raft
runic zephyr
more eyes and lungs than livers
cosmic tinsel
gib eyes
wet plaza
iirc in zones with multiple unique mobs you can
vast gazelle
👀
slender temple
If you are too high level as instance creator you get nothing tho
robust isle
When was eye drop rate increased?
grand dune
can someone explain how those new exalts work? could I get +1 to all cold skill gems onto this amulet? https://i.imgur.com/OlINrzT.png
rigid olive
Sirus fight is completely broken nice job to the guy who made the boss fight 10/10 lets just put balls of death everywhere that should be fun
errant garden
seems legit 
runic zephyr
can someone tell me how the mods of a boss organ are decided? random?
i thought it just takes the mods from the map organs you used, but it seems to be random
eternal turtle
Do the organs you collect in the map carry over to next map? Or is it new set every time?
The auto pickup ones
fading cedar
Do the Mirage Warriors of The Saviour have the same mechanics of Mirage Archer?
silver kettle
@fading cedar yes
fading cedar
Huh, interesting 🤔
eternal turtle
With the catalyst do I need 20 of them for every item?
And is there any way to get / farm then?
silver kettle
Same rules as other quality currency @eternal turtle - they give 5% on a white item, 2% on a magic, and 1% on rares and uniques. No specific way to farm them, just spam metamorphs and look out for organs with catalyst drops
eternal turtle
Damm guess I gotta spend like 140c to upgrade my ring 😦
spice cipher
What catalyst do you need?
torpid sonnet
It's probably cheaper to buy a new item with better stats than quality an existing one
red wharf
the feeling when you lose 5 portals to awakener fight because storm is stuck at arena door and awakener wont step down when im under him
2+ weeks passed, this fight still bugged
wary smelt
it's harder fighting the storms than it is to actually fight sirus
red wharf
if it weren't for stuck bug, it would be just annoyance, instead it breaks fight
wary smelt
also they still havent removed the things at stairs
red wharf
yeah, its hilarious haha, i had hard lesson to never go to stairs
wary smelt
so much stuff they needa fix. needa add like rubble around the edges of the areana too
red wharf
0:4 is my actual score with awakener 😦
wary smelt
im like 1:7
red wharf
i keep trying to improve, taking notes from recordings and so on, but i get whooped still
wary smelt
corrupted blood immunity + decoy totem makes it really easy
red wharf
pretty dishearting, i can forget leveling to 96 as well, it takes too much to play it safe without doing endgame bosses
ailments i can manage, totem could help in last phases, but i think bigger issue is i play pretty in panicking way at the end, i just need to practice
to counter his double ailment beams
vast gazelle
i feel like 100 is more about just doing really safe stuff
at as high speed as you can now
red wharf
i wanted only 96, 100 is out of my scope
i dont think with my sloppy plays + without significant gear updates i can level up to 96 with ocassional dyings
i think i need to stop bothering on leveling and focus on playing risky parts of endgame to get more practice
wary smelt
i'm still waiting for em to make it so the storms don't kill spectres instantly so i don't have to swap builds everytime i fight sirus
small mirage
what happens if you wipe on a conqueror
earnest skiff
having trouble spawning any sort of influence for last 30 maps or so, any advice?
leaden cypress
@grand dune - with that neck - im pretty sure you have to use awakener's orb to get 2 influence types on your neck, then it would be possible to get both +1 int and +1 cold
sly tusk
does shaper drop metamorph parts?
languid path
nope
bleak mirage
dumb question but how do u max out the ooze bar thing in tane's lab
i have 5 parts with avg level of 80 and it seems to be full, but its not glowing green unlike the way it does in maps
bleak mirage
havent gotten to that high level maps yet but ill keep it in mind, thanks!
red wharf
i have a amulet with hybrid incursion mod %es/flat es and crafted %es. However, using Tempering catalyst, it ups only crafted es, ignoring hybrid. I wonder if it's intended?
red wharf
another question, can I spawn awakener faster by using white/low tier maps?
tawny pasture
Yeah
But u have to spawn the influance on red map before
Once this done you can run white and yellow map to spawm them
red wharf
oh, that explains, thanks @tawny pasture
eternal turtle
What does making it glow with 405 ilevel do?
waxen oak
damn these meta morphs really going meta, starting to attack my graphics card
scarlet pendant
fallow zealot
merry otter
Ehm guys i gather a full set of lvl 82 organs and killed the boss in tane's chamber , but i didn't got anythink special from the kill neither the dialoge of Tane change after the kill, did i miss anythink or this is what is suppose to happent ?
sharp gulch
No drops at all, even if you reveal them?
merry otter
Only the usual , currency, rare weapons , 1-2 maps
But none unique or anythink special
slender temple
Press g to reduce graphics lag I do that on my second box usually when I wanna pop spiders and vaal skellies to rip apart a boss or a tane
solid kernel
@merry otter you have to use parts that actually increase the amount of shit the boss drops
trail latch
does conqueror influence ever despawn, or do i have time to set the map up with 4 simultaneously?
grim folio
Awakener fight is so *****ing stupid.... 2 deaths because literally NO way to get to him, clouds completely blocking entrance. finally had multiple phases with clouds that were possible... followed by losing the rest of my portals to impossible clouds yet again
The clouds need fixed.... everything else is doable if you know the mechanics
gloomy bay
Anyone else having trouble getting their third Elderslayer encounter to spawn the citadel while on the Sirus quest
junior gate
small ridge
the drop additional currency item organ, sometimes there is a chest and a chaos orb picture, whats the difference?
ornate belfry
if i do a map and it doesnt give me influence, can i repeat same map to try and get influence, or does it have to be "Map A > Map B > Map A > Map X"?
frigid tinsel
What do you do if the Vortexes in Sirus fight are in front of the door and you cant move out?
i literally cant do anything right now
prisma charm
Go back in the door and wait
red wharf
these league bugs are getting on my nerves, activated all tiles in baran fight without touching, no challenge tick, no failure message, then al-hezmin didn't spawn any snakes from ground, no tick/failure as well.
and redeemer still shots invisible tornados
copper kernel
Baran only works on low tier maps
red wharf
why? I managed to spawn runes on all tiles, it was very obvious for me to see @copper kernel
also, another score for sirus, 0:5 now 😦 I cant handle storms well, does this fight add +1 storm for every death?
rough radish
what kind of mods do u usually look on those meta organs that you used to summon on lab?
small ridge
how should i use the unique boss organs ? on a map or in the NPC
languid path
in the map of the npc
floral spade
how do i get conquerors to spawn in maps? do i just open random maps and hope they appear?
tepid belfry
guys could anyone help me out please?
i have no idea if my my atlas bricked or if im just doing something really wrong
can't seem to spawn a conqueror in any region
placid eagle
I'm having the same issue. What's your max awakener level you can socket into your atlas, just out of curiosity?
tepid belfry
i can get it up to level 3 with 12 watchstones and 3 full thingies
placid eagle
I'm stuck at 4.
tepid belfry
i think i tried every region and i can't seem to make one spawn
it says: Number of socketed watchstones: 3 requiered to spawn a conqueror
but not sure what exactly that means
placid eagle
it means you need three watchstones socketed into the altar of the region you want the conquerer to spawn in
However, even when fulfilling this requirement, I can't spawn a conqueror.
tepid belfry
yea same here
placid eagle
@tepid belfry My buddy just told me that if you change your hideout and run appropriate maps, it should fix the issue. I just did it, and it worked...I hope it does for you too
tepid belfry
you need to run red maps for it right?
placid eagle
depends on how many qatchstones you have socketed. if you put three in, the maps in that section are red, right?
placid eagle
then you have to put a red map in to proc the conqueror. My friend says that after you get the first conqueror spawn, you can run lower tier maps in that section to further it, but I haven't tested that - your milage may vary
tepid belfry
i think i'll try to grind up to red maps tommorow
will let you know if it works, thanks for the help
wary smelt
apparently they can open vaal temple for the conqueror fights
random imp
Can anyone confirm that after sirus and 20 watch stones further conquerer spawns are random?
Just want to make sure I'm not crazy
sharp gulch
Random after 16
random imp
Mine was deterministic until 20 when sirus spawned.
Now it doesn't seem to be.
I should probably be running awakened level 5 right? To maximize my sustain.
sharp gulch
Yeah, run whatever you can sustain. The rng section is long and you don't want to run out.
random imp
Right now I'm sitting on a pool of about 50 various t12-t15.
But I'm not above buying maps.
Need to finish out my 154 bonus for regular completions.
random imp
Yeah.
I've got a ton.
Need to redo my atlas to maximize my higher tier stuff though.
junior skiff
is it possible for conqueror to not drop a watchstone
wary smelt
they only drop watchstone if u havent gotten watchstone of their color in that region yet
mouse over left side to see which areas still has what watchstones available for drop
random imp
I'm not looking forward to the grind for my last 12 watchstones.
junior skiff
so the color that spawn on my atlas is completely random?
lets say I obtained 2 watchstones, its possible for conqueror of that color to spawn again in that in that region?
random imp
Not until after sirus spawns.
junior skiff
first time sirus? after that its random?
random imp
Actually, I may be wrong on that part. I'm pretty sure it will prefer the unclaimed stone first.
junior skiff
thats why im confused. I have 3 watchstones (yellow, red, green) so I want to last blue one. But the green one spawn again and therefore I did not get any after killing the conqueror.
So thats why im wondering if its completely random or if there is a way to get the right color to spawn
junior skiff
nvm, i think I found out why. I got a single blue watchstone from another region. thats why the blue watchstone wont spawn until I complete the full set first
minor oyster
apparently metamorph map drops dont obey atlas restrictions
or watchstone level lol
timber surge
horizon orbs currently only do the base maps of that tier. grimro has a spreadsheet of them (idk if i can link)
surreal helm
hollow wharf
not yet
void thicket
where are ilvl 86 organs dropping from
highest i've got was 83 i think (from t16)
but there's livers in the market at ilvl 86
supple heath
u can get +1 map/monster lvl sextants
waxen oak
U gotta go to the black market to scalp those really nice livers
abstract quail
iam running so many maps but when i find a influence after like 20 maps i need another 20 maps to find his citadell. is this even intendend like this ? it feels so bad to search for like multiple hours.
ornate belfry
to get influence, do you need to have highest level of awakening also? or just level 4 in that particular region? Also can you repeat the same map to get and move onwards with influence?
dusty umbra
4 in particular region past 20 stones
but it sometimes bugs out somewhat so i suggest trying diff region if ur not gettin influ spawn
twin rampart
It bugs out alot.
gentle pollen
does the metamorph always show an icon for rewards?
low kindle
do defense catalysts work on this?
red stone
wasnt there a page where u could check what each catalyst works for?
nvm, poedb has it https://poedb.tw/us/item.php?n=Intrinsic+Catalyst
just check if the one u want affects that mod
terse lantern
any way to control which metamorph sample you get?
I have 0 eyes, but 10+ of the others
red stone
sample depends on the unique part u used (as long as the bar is filled) If u use multiple uniques, random between those
terse lantern
so ideally i want to leave out those i dont need when i get more than one unique
and thx
analog atlas
is it just me or Tornado Shot on metamorphs is very, very scary?
like, "basically suicide" scary
valid compass
does sb have spreadsheet with natural maps? i want to check what can i use horizon orb for
earnest wave
does the metamorph boss created in a map get buffed by a map's affixes?
slender temple
The 5000 projectile spectral throw bs from metamorph innocence is the scary one
Neveragain.jpeg
wary smelt
also i think pier map has the 500 projectile frost bolt things
sacred gate
Are organs drops supposed to be even now? As in 20% chance of getting an Eye?
violet nymph
Depends on the map i guess
Precinct has like 5 unique enemies that all drop organs
So farming it is probably smart
sacred gate
I've been doing some twinned maps with 3 bosses in hopes of getting an Eye
no luck yet x)
slow lake
i got 1 eye today
waxen oak
im a little late but u gotta invite a friend to bring organs to respawn it
if u leave it will reset loot
dapper umbra
anyone playing aurabot/curse bot would love to form a team ,EU
rapid sky
hey guys, should i place my watchstone on their dedicated Region or we don't care about this? I'm trying to spawn Sirus as fast as possible
copper kernel
Doesnt matter
rapid sky
urg
I've socketed 4 WS on a region, done like 10 maps of this region in a row and no conquerors
i might be missing something
tulip epoch
is there a bug with the legion encounter??? ive crashed like 2x from it already when they have a general
runic zephyr
general crash is common and still not fixed it seems
vagrant grove
Its wierd that they havent fixed it since its like the main zana mod for the league and were paying 6c a pop just to have it crash
copper kernel
Not really wierd considering its the holidays
hasty perch
It's between christmas and new year . People at GGG have families too
junior skiff
how do you spawn Sirus after the first time?
wet plaza
kill each guardian again
shell anchor
Somebody already a but where a flag on drox stays up in the air and so he doesn't go down from his invul phase?
random imp
So, I'm thinking that conquerers spawn in a specific order after first sirus encounter.
Or at least, they spawn based on what's needed to spawn sirus again.
Can't get two of the same in a row, for example, even in different regions.
balmy stratus
what maps have better drop rates for eyes? or is it completely random?
balmy stratus
can you suggest a map with multiple bosses, i dont have any watchstones yet
royal gale
there's a lot of them
coarse moon
crystal ore, canyon, and coves are personal favorites
balmy stratus
thanks @coarse moon
im using a scourge arrow build so the more open the area the better
balmy stratus
im running arcade atm
patent canyon
arcade sounds a bit cancer with scourge
balmy stratus
it was fine, didnt alot of rares to cap the map though
patent canyon
excavation has good layout too
cant remember the boss was those 3 link guys or the 2 from mines
coarse moon
it’s the 2 bosses (dude and bird) for excav
ore gets the tree including the one that explodes on death
tribal apex
fluid musk
damn whats wild
raven hawk
does https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Tempering_Catalyst increase ES?
copper kernel
Yes
raven hawk
👍
On the atlas - I know that you can "chase" the conquerors on white maps once the region has influence. For the initial influence do you have to run the appropriate level map for the region (e.g. like a Tier15 or w/e for 4 socketed watchstones)?
raven hawk
👍
fresh sapphire
Hi chat. Can someone tell me what it means when you activate a map, and it plays a sound like you are getting influence on a region, but you don't then get it?
I'm at 29 watchstones and it's getting harder to spawn influence it seems
tepid belfry
can you clear the map with one character and kill the metamorph with a different one?
patent canyon
ye
tepid belfry
gonna do that from now on then
attempting do kill metamorphs feels so risky on melee
fresh sapphire
I think I've figured out the sound. It means a Conqueror has spawned somewhere on the atlas, not necessarily in the region where your map is. If you are quick enough to hit "g" you might catch the region flashing where it is. So if you don't spawn in the map you are running, run a different region.
I just did 6 maps on Arthain, didn't spawn the Conqueror, but switched to Tirn after hearing the sound and one spawned first map
It might also help (or could be just RNG) to complete regions in order. i.e. top 4 from left to right, then bottom 4 from left top right.
I had been trying to complete Arthain and it was not spawning. So after I went back to Tirn, New Vastir was next, and it spawned straight away.
cobalt falcon
fresh sapphire
Take all the watchstones out?
crystal wasp
I have socketed 4 watchstones into a zone and and then spawned and influence with a t5 map, do I have to run t 16 maps in that zone to get encounters, or can I run t1 - t5 maps?
fresh sapphire
@crystal wasp interesting, I thought that wasn't supposed to happen. I would just try T1-5.
But given GGG's predilection on "pure" RNG, it could be that the only precondition for Conqueror spawn is "have x number of watchstones socketed"
crystal wasp
well the problem is that he is not spawning
fresh sapphire
on->for
crystal wasp
I have the influence but there is no interaction
fresh sapphire
how many maps so far, and which region?
crystal wasp
others appeared instantly
after I have spawned the influence
Do you have a lex t 16 map so I can test this?
fresh sapphire
Lex has T14-T16. I can sell you any of those.
crystal wasp
Sure
fresh sapphire
T14: Arid Lake, Fields, Ivory Temple, Jungle Valley
fresh sapphire
As I said, I think it might have been Lex actually, once it took me a total of 16 maps to complete one influence.
Worst RNG ever
crystal wasp
it is the first time i am not getting 3 encounters right after I have spawned an influence
fresh sapphire
How many watchstones total do you have?
This is anecdata, but I think the more watchstones you have, the longer it takes to the next one. Fck knows who some players got 32 in a couple of days. That is god-tier RNG/luck
who->how
wary smelt
is baran challange bugged?
just died like 4 times so i can cover arena and didnt get complete
fresh sapphire
I haven't managed that one yet myself, so don't know. Either fail or kill him before he covers all. (I'm a summoner)
wary smelt
yea im summoner too i removed gems to lwoer spectre dps so i could cover
fresh sapphire
Well, finally got all 32 stones. What a chore. GGG need better instructions...
Might have to re-roll as non-summoner to do a few challenges
I'm 28/40 right now
wary smelt
have to be single target character for this
only one i really see that summoner cant do
fresh sapphire
Hmm, I've done that one as summoner. Can't remember it tho.
Pure luck my skeles took him out first
midnight phoenix
Deathmark
fallow pine
How do we actually get to a metamorph map zone?
random imp
Metamorph map zone? Must be some super secret combo of stuff.
fallow pine
Or whatever it is that you do that gets Tane to stop complaining about how the samples are on the ground
lethal relic
Does it matter which color i socket in a watchstone to spawn a conqueror?
tepid belfry
it doesn't
past obsidian
I'm at 21 stones, I've done 8 red maps in that region, 3 white maps, poison dude doesn't appear, am I doing something wrong
past obsidian
Sigh ok
neat rover
i do high tier maps until i get influence then switch to low tier
rinse and repeat
until you get all stones 😄
full meteor
People, question, i think it was discussed, but i have not found, the problem, that eyes are the rarest drop in metamorph, it's ok for GGG? Or they will do some mecahnics of exchanging and etc?
copper kernel
They are the rarest drop, most likely intentionally
past obsidian
@neat rover 6 piers, still no appearance
I am starting to think there is something wrong 😦
Even changed my hideout
full meteor
@copper kernel very bad, more than 30 yellow maps today, 0 eyes 😦
delicate tartan
I didn't follow recent changes, did they fix metamorphs being immune to freeze?
past obsidian
After 15 white maps I finally got that fucker to appear
ornate belfry
if i influenced new vastir and killed the exile there, then i killed the exile in another location, can i influence new vastir again before facing sirus? as i only realyl have maps for that region
thanks
low kindle
Yes
sterile fulcrum
how to grind for eyes
tidal pasture
Anyone with 4 watchstones (1 of each color) and Tirn's end or Lex Ejoris NOT locked able to help me?
I'm making a spreadsheet but need info that I currently can't get
runic zephyr
if i didnt find an organ yet, im guessing it wont show me what loot type that organ has?
hate missing one and wondering if i should search for it because that organ happens to be the drop-100-mirrors organ
copper kernel
Realistically it's not
wary smelt
@tidal pasture a spreadsheet like this one? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GvbFAmOtOfUnSRbkQyNgTSYEiHsEIuSUJaKW1SX3AX8/edit#gid=0
tidal pasture
@wary smelt exactly like that one. Haha: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19n4qMBRPwH2ry629friBppn2WjiUG9_TJq99SXsMRY4/edit
Though I have the unique maps bound to the Watch Stone requirements still
and I have the Pantheon with cell links
But basically the same thing
wary smelt
but yea if u need anything let me know
i got 32/32
maybe put unique maps in different color font?
fiery radish
how do i use the blood altar?
patent canyon
select recipe > craft > kill shit > get reward
if recipe involves your item put it into the slot before crafting
rose pasture
@full meteor they consider to introduce receipt for limbs. But will do it after ny holidays.
lyric shuttle
i cannot get my 32nd stone guy to spawn, been doing all the normal stuff
dusty umbra
@lyric shuttle u doin it in right region ; with right tiers?
1 - run a white map
2 - run every single map in that region of right tier
lyric shuttle
this is stupid, I've run a ton of maps, no spawn, just about to give up https://i.imgur.com/7wy3GNc.jpg
NOTHING spawns as I've run now about 120 maps today
silver kettle
@lyric shuttle have you run every map in the area? do you have a sirus fight available?
on the first point - it's possible for a conqueror to only be findable in as few as three specific maps within the area, so if you don't run those specific maps you'll never find them
real crest
i think you have to do the tiers in order too like run the t1 without watchstones
should only tkae like 3 maps to have a region done
primal marlin
do parts for the summoning thing despawn between zones? sometimes i change zone and theyre all gone but not always
real crest
yes if level resets they're gone
unreal wadi
do we have a catalyst calculator?
spectres and golem are the only thing that stay @primal marlin
and ag I guess
lethal relic
Once you beat Sirus with complete watchstones, do you have to collect them again?
twin iris
Nice. 5x currency
rotund valve
Enjoy your alts and whetstones
acoustic whale
why does it proc me a watchstone i have already obtained?
this is the second time now
same zone first blue now green
but i had them already
vapid agate
you're unlucky
you might have procced baran in another zone, if you did then you have to kill sirus again
worthy turtle
do you need to kill sirus before more conquerors will spawn? (already killed him before)
blissful sundial
anyone else have an insane amount of one body part and almost none of the others?
silver kettle
@worthy turtle yes
Or at least attempt to fight him
If you fail the fight they'll also start spawning again
worthy turtle
cool. beat him anyway. and influence is grand now
violet nymph
hey guys one question about metamorhp boses... there is this skill when the metamorphcasts under himself some kind of CHAOS DOT bullshit that takes ur life away in a blinkof the eye... its similar to that of when u kill the trio at uber atziri ( i mean feels like similar kind of DoT dmg, or even worse. ) can u tell me what is the name of this shit? I want to avoid it forever. Just lost like 40% xp on a tier 13 to this crap
opal sierra
@violet nymph I believe it’s called caustic ground, I’ve died many of times to that shit. Back when I had -70 chaos res it was even worse.
violet nymph
@opal sierra yea i got like -25... usually nothing kills me and i run through alched t13s with ease, but this caustic ground rips me in like 1sec 😄
zinc atlas
fathom shard
Hey can you just do 3 of the same map to spawn baran
Or do they have to be different ones in the same region?
errant tinsel
can you not hit max bar in tane lab? im running 81/81/81/80/80 for body parts
midnight phoenix
U can hit it
Idk what combination exactly
It happens sometimes i dotn rly plan for it
Not like u get some uber organ from it or anything
errant tinsel
ahh okay, thanks
livid lake
all body parts 82+ i think you need
wary smelt
wasn't it like a total of 405 ilevel?
strange furnace
It says I require 3 socketed watchstones to spawn a conqueror, so I placed 3 in one altar, however I only have white maps in that region. Can I still spawn the conqueror running these white maps?
dusty umbra
no
you need to run appropriate tier to spawn influence - after that you can run whites to find him 2 more times
brisk coral
im having a lot of problems getting the conqs to spawn. im running yellow and red maps in the area im still missing stones but they arent showing up. and tips on how to get them to spawn?
any*
silver kettle
Hover over the boxes on the left of the atlas to see how many watchstones are required to spawn a Conqueror in that region. Make sure the map tiers you're running match the tiers currently on your atlas. Check every map in the region, don't just run the same few
brisk coral
i know that. but i was wondering if there was something i was missing or some trick to get them to show up
dusty umbra
let's just say initial influence can be somewhat interesting to spawn
after that it's super straight forward
runic zephyr
did they add the recipes for the excess organs yet? and am i the only one who hasnt really noticed any eye drop rate fixes?
feelsbad
livid lake
no, and yes.
I've had a fairly large amount of eyes dropping now, feels pretty good.
runic zephyr
are the mods of a boss organ, and the organ type, random?
like, i read somewhere that some map bosses have better chance to drop eyes?
abstract lava
They're fixed for me, i'm getting them same rate as livers now
you just had a excess from before i'm sure
tawny pasture
Try to run map with 2+ plus to get more eye , ive runned 20 map yesterday and got 11 eye
violet nymph
who is tane's voice actor?
royal gale
Eyes are definitely rarer, they aren’t equally weighted
tawny pasture
Not when you farm map with 2+ monster
royal gale
Doesn’t matter what map you farm; those just increase your chances
runic zephyr
bruh moment
@tawny pasture wym 2+ plus? additional boss? or maps that always have multiple bosses?
tawny pasture
Like jeff said it increase the chance to get eye
slate dagger
my last few maps the boss hasnt dropped a unique organ, as in the option to put the boss' part in the tank at the end of the map just isnt there. there isnt even a blank slot where it would be if i hadnt killed it
tawny pasture
Its was an elder guardian map ?
royal gale
port map doesnt
crystal wasp
So I think I got a bug
Drox doesn't take any damage after the bubble phase
just spawns banners
no ads
or do I have to clear all the banners?
he's at 25% hp
crystal wasp
His health bar didnt move an inch in half an hour
and I have ~120k dps in ho
soulrend bane
dot dps
dusty umbra
@crystal wasp need help? 🙂
crystal wasp
sure
dusty umbra
if eu @ borntodiequick
sharp harbor
What avg ilvl of body parts do I need to get the animation on the fill up bar to activate?
I'm at like 82 across the board and nothing
sterile elbow
in tane's lab?
sharp harbor
Yeah
sterile elbow
filling the bar does nothing, but 82-83 should be enough
sharp harbor
Oh, Tane always seemed disappointed when I killed without filling before, thought I was supposed to do something guess not
runic zephyr
wait, filling the bar does nothing?
livid lake
except the loot addition you get from normally filling the bar, nothing special happens no
runic zephyr
that is so weird that i actually want to refuse to believe that
like tane says the result isnt what he desired when its not filled, and the bar has a different animation, and the bar actually has a CAP, and the bar DOES something special for map bosses, but NOT for the final one?
patent canyon
i mean they are simply using same UI
runic zephyr
thought itd be at least sth like chance for additional rewards
tawny pasture
by filling the bar you unlock the chall
patent canyon
to save resources making new one just for the lab
tawny pasture
@runic zephyr better chance to have better loote and unlock the challenge
runic zephyr
oh, the challenge, at least something i guess
runic zephyr
comparing to before, no, i definetly am not dropping as many eyes as other organs :/ gonna have to start throwing a few out i guess
random imp
Just split into more tabs, tab for each organ type. 🙂
runic zephyr
jesus, the meta damages are insane. my gf played the same spectre build with AG like last league, last league it didnt even come close to dying once.
now the freaking AG, equipped with like 2 ex of gear, died to a random metamorph on a map. and because we cant afford to buy new AG gear, she quit. thanks for that, metamorph... >.>
livid lake
wut
spice cipher
learn to read my dude, some abilities arent worth for the reward
livid lake
also never give something that can die stuff you cant afford to lose
spice cipher
i find most people die because they plugin the top organs and then wonder why they cant kill it
dont stack life, regen, ES mods unless you want a bad time lul
runic zephyr
haha yea im sure she underestimated the meta, wish the AG wouldnt lose the gear... i mean you pretty much have to slap expensive shit on it, without it its not really useful and will die a lot right?
boy am i glad that im not a summoner :D
copper kernel
summoners have no room to complain tbh
spice cipher
^
random imp
Just don't use AG, problem solved.
upper vigil
Hey quick question, how do you save a Unique monster part to bring back to the lab?
runic zephyr
i dont know what AG does, i only know it gives fortify with kingmaker, but im sure its not that vital to the build
@upper vigil bar has to reach 400%
then itll drop an organ
upper vigil
Oh neat, the monster strength bar?
upper vigil
right, I figured that.
twin fjord
Okay I'm seeing maps disappear in my map tab. I have a T9 Tropical Island drop and I put it into the tab. I have not completed any version of Tropical Island, and now I can't find the map in my map tab, even when I bump the atlas region up to where Tropical Island is tier 9. Anyone know how I can get my tab to give me the map it ate?
livid lake
if it was tier9 it'll be in the tier9 tab
tawny pasture
25 maps runs , 14 eye
leaden storm
dang yo
tawny pasture
farming map with +2 boss is the way
plateau , crystal ore , promenade , courtyard , strand Etc
and the x/1500 will up faster
tawny pasture
sirus is boring
coarse moon
im just tired of the storm baiting
twin fjord
@livid lake The Tropical Island icon doesn't exist
for any tier
except T5
I will report a bug
tawny pasture
on the atlas
wintry apex
It's T14 on the atlas for me and correctly colored. Seems like a very specific bug then.
mystic canopy
should i watch a video about how the new atlas works, or just keep doing random maps and killing these dudes that pop up?
eager nest
violet nymph
Why i never get the yellow stone ?
I get the green blue red all the time. Yellow? Never.
I play t12-t13 alched vaaled not easy maps yet it never happens
I only get baran, hunter, and the cold girl boss.
eager terrace
make sure it doesn't require region level 4 in that area to get a yellow stone
plain isle
nice metamorph drops eh?
hot gyro
what happend when i migrate from ssf to trade league
did i lost my atlas progression and watch stones?
eternal laurel
i spawned influence, can i find the guy at any tier map? I've run maybe 40-50 maps since originally finding the influence without finding the maps...
native sonnet
yes, only the spawning influence needs to be the correct/same tier of maps as ur atlas
encountering them after that can be done in lower tier of those maps
eternal laurel
ok, so im just being unlucky i guess
radiant ice
is there a list of all possible meta morph boss modifiers / what each does?
someone maybe got a link?
violet nymph
How do i know “require region level 4” what is even region levels ? I dont quite understand.
I just put in 3 stone i have and i get maps of t12-13-14 in that region
But i dont see region level
And mo matter in which i put them i dont seem to be able to get a yellow stone
:/
dark condor
Region level = number of stones in that region
violet nymph
Ok ... i still dont understand. How can i get the yellow stone ? ( left stone)
Green blue red seemingly spawned by themself when i randomly run maps
livid lake
stones aren't locked to the region you got them ffrom.
violet nymph
Yellow.... never
livid lake
you can put them anywhere
livid lake
so if you want the yellow stone and it says you need 4 in the area to unlock it, you need to put 4 stones in that area to have a chance to spawn the last conqueueror
violet nymph
Is there a certain map i should run to unlock yellow stone ?
livid lake
then run different maps and it'll spawn.
violet nymph
But how do i put 4 stone if i have only 3
XD
Its contradictory
I said i only have 3...
livid lake
and are any of them yellow?
livid lake
take a screenshot of the area you're trying to get to last stone in when you hover over it on the left panel
violet nymph
Im not playing atm in in my workplace
But
I tried to put the stones to 2-3 area i have
And sometime it spawns hunter
Or baran
Or cold girl idk name
Then i kill him her and get another blue red green
😄
livid lake
yes thats how it works, you get guaranteed spawns and no duplicates of areas till you've completed the quest lines for each of the conquerors
violet nymph
But i think i have altars that are not even unlocked this could be problem ?
I dont quite know how to “ complete “ it i dont even understand why i kill him like 4 time already
Then he spawns again
Makes not too much sense
Why o have to kill him 5 time
Previously it was straight forward... you get or buy fragments kill the boss good day
Like uber atziri or shaper when i last played
Now i dont even know what the stones do or how they spawn the bosses
livid lake
it's going to be easier to explain if you're actually playing the game. So come back later and ask again tbh.
violet nymph
Ok bro ill message you
But now im working
And figured it would be good time to figure it out
Because i got some time now
But thx for your help
livid lake
if you can, probably worth giving this a watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4MX7EKHhuc
violet nymph
Will do thx
livid glen
when i put in metamorph parts how do i make sure they dont get stupid op
what are the mods i should look out for
tawny pasture
Life dmg life regen es hexproof etc
vagrant grove
Those tentacle girls with multiple projectiles has been a nope for me atleast. And i had one that did an instant aoe under me every time he emerged from a dive that was unavoidable and oneshotted me.
But i will admit i NEVER read the mods
gleaming nest
Did anyone figure the crafting recipe in tane laboratoy out?
tawny pasture
What you mean for the crafting recipe ?
errant tinsel
isnt it just sum ilvl 405+ from what ive heard
tawny pasture
Yup
astral vessel
so as for metamorph body parts, the currency one with the chaos orb means it'll drop a chaos, and the currency chest can drop anything right?
zinc yarrow
they both drop anything as far as I've experienced
the one could be an exalted while the other one could be a mirror lmao
astral vessel
hmm there has to be a reason for the different icon though
silver kettle
It's the same reward system as Legion and Blight
astral vessel
oh yeah it cant be a guaranteed chaos cus i didnt get one
so both are just +currency basically, maybe with a different loot pool (?)
silver kettle
The reason it seems a bit weird here is just because unlike in those systems, it tells you the contents
astral vessel
i see
silver kettle
I wouldn't be surprised if the weights or number of items dropped were different between the two
But I also wouldn't be surprised if they were the same
I don't think anyone has tested
astral vessel
yeah it'd make sense if either the weights or the pool was different, we prob can't really test that cus it still comes down to rng
silver kettle
You'd be able to test it over a very large sample size
But that sounds like more trouble than it's worth
astral vessel
yeah im not sure if it matters that much, just paid attention and noticed that the chaos orb icon doesnt mean ill get a chaos, thats good enough to know
eternal turtle
Anyone have a idea how hard sirus hits?
floral spade
Do you guys know the difference between the currency organs that shows a chest and the chaos orb? Is one better than the other?
eternal turtle
I think chest one drops more
floral spade
Thanks. I'll do more testing
silver kettle
@eternal turtle http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Sirus%2C+Awakener+of+Worlds
eternal turtle
So how do I calculate how much life is needed to survive with max resist?
silver kettle
Calculate the conversion then divide the converted portion by 4 and add it back to the portion that remains physical
Though those numbers don't necessarily tell the whole story, since almost all of his skills hit multiple times
vast gazelle
hmm
interesting
didnt realize he converted to fire, lightning, and chaos
meteor maze does up to about 10k? huh
seems low
thats gotta be the outermost circle damage
languid river
So I killed the blue conqueror in Valdo's. Can it now spawn in Glennach Cairns or should I clear all the others + kill Sirus so the cycle resets?
silver kettle
They go in cycles. You have to kill all of them once before you can spawn any of them again.
sweet edge
https://imgur.com/bfgvYPO.png
Tane, wtf man? Move.
His tiny body manages to block that entire doorway.
twin fjord
I just got Sirus to spawn. Do I have to fight him immediately, or can I continue fighting conqs to raise my awakener level?
It's currently at 5
vapid agate
You must fight him
Conqs won’t spawn until you finish the encounter
You can of course, just open another map and delete the portals
gilded dew
So,do catalysts increases the odds of getting the associated mods when crafting?
eternal drift
I don't understand this new Atlas progression..
neon scaffold
how do you spawn the new conquerors
violet nymph
Idk seems silly i played yesturday
I still cant get the yellow stone
Still cant get broy to spawn
All other seems to spawn by itself
Without no effort
This one no matter what i do wont spawn
balmy copper
I've got a question about how the conquerors spawn
i just did the sirus fight
will the stones now spawn in an order?
royal gale
It’s random
balmy copper
but all 4 will spawn?
balmy copper
so if it goes RBY i know next must be green etc
royal gale
Yes
balmy copper
twice now i've spawned stones i already had in the region
balmy copper
it seems like a pretty shitty mechanic heh
couple more questions - once influence has spawned I have to actually complete it?
I've got 23 stones or something now, all the maps i run have to be T14+ or whatever?
royal gale
Yes you have to complete it
Once you spawn the conqueror you don’t have to run maps on level
They can be white maps in that region
balmy copper
ah awesome
many thanks for all your help
it's only spawning the conqueror in the first place that requires being on level
royal gale
Yeah
balmy copper
one last question - can all 4 be spawned at once?
royal gale
Yep
balmy copper
and in the 4 spawn cycle, they must be unique?
subtle vortex
with my cyclone build I tend to die fast to the guys who spew the black rainy stuff all over the screen
does anyone know what to look for if I want to avoid that? organ name etc?
tawny pasture
Chaos res
wicked topaz
Will shit like this be fixed soon? >.>
tawny pasture
Reep first time saw this
wicked topaz
All the grinding down the drain - now I have to grind Reds again until I encounter a conqeror and then more grind to what? have this possibly happen again -.-
lyric shuttle
how can you tell how many spawns you have in an influenced area?
tawny pasture
You cant
royal gale
if you've spawned the conqueror you either have 2 remaining or 1
if you do one and no citadel available its 1 more
thats pretty much all you need to know
@lyric shuttle
fierce plank
Posting here question as well somebody might knows the answer
Does anybody knows how many maps do i need to run to spawn Droxx for example in Tier 16 map I have run like over 40-50 maps and occasionally he appears and after I finish map I never get quest to fight him in separate map? Is there a bug currently or I am missing a point? Worth mention, I do have all 4 stones in that region, and I am unable to spawn him anymore? Also, there was a time when I defeat conquer and do not have watch stone drop, does it also mean it's bugged or something else ?
fierce plank
lol anyone ?
don't tell me that i have bad rng after 50 maps in the down left region played
dark condor
The quest should be there if he appeared for four times (Influence + three additional times).
The reason for the watchstones not dropping could be that you already obtained the watchstone in that color from that region.
dusty umbra
@dark condor not four ; three.
Initial spawn + 2 extra spawns + opening citadel
dark condor
Oh, my bad
fierce plank
Ok and If i run over 40 times maps in region why do I keep meeting him in map with dialogue and do not have quest in hideout via cirac and zana
my 4 stones are captured there because influence, and for instance I would like to run other region to obtain more watchstones
but i am unable because of this..
best way to resolve this would be to simple lose influence by some time... otherway it's complete garbage mechanic
if i have already "completed" that region with 4 watchstones, and there are other regions where I miss some, why in the first place we are able to spawn influence if we cannot finish it ? so sorry for whine but you would understand if you run 40+ maps like crazy
royal gale
You are just unlucky, it happens
Sometimes if you reset your hideout it helps
Sometimes logging out helps
Sometimes switching zones for a bit helps
Other than that nobody knows exactly, but it just happens sometimes
next epoch
Anyone happen to know if it's consistent which corner areas the conquerors will first spawn in?
If it helps any, my Baran started in upper right (Lex Ejoris)
knotty locust
Does anyone know which color watchstone corresponds to which conqueror?
next epoch
Baran is red, Al-Hez is green, Veritania is blue, Drox is yellow
knotty locust
Thanks
next epoch
really? how can you forget ms. "let us indulge your disgusting lust"?
royal gale
The first spawns are random; my baran was bottom right
next epoch
Ah, okay. Now trying to figure out how the watchstone requirements to spawn conquerors work...
It's a little confusing. In a fresh atlas they all start out showing 0 or 1 watchstones required, but those go up as you continue
fierce plank
ok it's me again, and i've managed to spawn green influence here and again after 20-25 maps no citadel spawn
what the fuck is happening with this game
should i write to official support?
royal gale
Did you try remaking your hideout
fierce plank
yes i changed
to another one
i will change to third one now... and even gateway
royal gale
No you don’t need to submit a report
It’s just how it be
I’ve had some take me 40 maps, some I’ve gotten in 3
fierce plank
that is mega bullshit mechanic
and I really do hope they patch that
there is no point
tawny pasture
its not , maybe you dont like it but its not bullshit
royal gale
you can wait until next week, there are many bugfixes and changes coming i'm sure
tawny pasture
poe always Being about some Rng
cerulean frost
so why did i complete t16 shrine in a hunter influence and did proc hunter ?
royal gale
what
fierce plank
if you like to repeat 40-50 times things because you have intention to follow league mechanic and it is not happening
you call that not like ?
you must be trolling me
royal gale
have you been running different maps? or all the same map
there's a theory that the taunts are limited to as little as 3 specific maps in the region
next epoch
And, not to ask the obvious, but are the maps you're running in the right region?
fierce plank
i am not whining about drop, i just happen not to spawn citadels like from 8pm.. now it;s 1 am
royal gale
what do you mean spawn citadels?
fierce plank
sure i am running those maps
royal gale
its not guaranteed after 16 watchstoens @cerulean frost
royal gale
ye you have to be taunted by them twice after you find the influence
there isn't just gonna be a portal to their citadel
fierce plank
i have been taunted more than 2 times