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faint ravine Dec 20, 2019, 1:28 PM

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or is the way to go just "throw 5 together and kill"

sick sparrow Dec 20, 2019, 1:45 PM

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@violet nymph @lyric pine question for you both. Post 16 watchstones, can i run maps in the region at any tier? or do i have to have all 4 watchstones socketed to spawn influence/conquerors?

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 1:45 PM

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need all 4 in a region to spawn conqs there

sick sparrow Dec 20, 2019, 1:46 PM

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ok thanks. do i also need to run the equivalent tier of map?

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 1:54 PM

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ye

sick sparrow Dec 20, 2019, 1:57 PM

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ok thankyou 🙂

tame skiff Dec 20, 2019, 2:12 PM

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so ive done like so many meta bosses, and yet to get what i have put in. Im still just getting hearts and lungs and brains no livers or eyes

sly tusk Dec 20, 2019, 2:44 PM

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You can only get unique parts you put in back, and only if the bar is glowing

smoky ridge Dec 20, 2019, 3:10 PM

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guys

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halp

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influnece doesnt spawn after i socketed 32

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stones

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wutf

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 3:20 PM

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yeah i have 16 stones and started a new character after failing to kil sirus. havent seen a single taunt from lv 1 to 90

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dunno why they not spawning anymore

cursive widget Dec 20, 2019, 3:22 PM

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I wonder if we can spawn the guardians in a region level 4 if we run white maps in that region

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or do we have to do t14 maps

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 3:24 PM

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u probly have to run maps at their stone's tier to spawn the guards. but im doing that so thats not it

thick oar Dec 20, 2019, 3:24 PM

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anyone missing the citadel for valdo's rest??

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i have all the white maps completed in the region with no citadel

cursive widget Dec 20, 2019, 3:25 PM

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@lucid haven I know they said it's a 33% spawn rate now after sirus to get influence

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but not sure if we can run a t1 map as long as that same map is in the level 4 region, or we have to run the t14 variant of it

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to spawn the guardian etc

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 3:25 PM

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33% and be unlucky for 90 levels?

cursive widget Dec 20, 2019, 3:26 PM

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90 levels?

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what you mean?

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 3:26 PM

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this char went lv 1 to 90 without finding a single guard

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i failed to kil sirus on other char then i started t his one

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i been runing 3 stone map lvl in a 3 stone area

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obviously i first did some white/yellow maps acros atlas to get in 80's so its not any better in other regions

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 3:39 PM

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why wont it just let me make a blind metamorph at this rate

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dusty umbra Dec 20, 2019, 4:54 PM

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@mortal yarrow graveyard t14

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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been running yellow version 24/7 alongside with red arcade

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no eyes

dusky berry Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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So the change of "Every Map Boss can now be chosen for all organ types for Metamorph League. This will result in an even distribution of the different organs to use in Tane's Laboratory." is this in yet? just tried putting a heart in a different slot that dropped from the boss and it didn't work

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Or are they meaning bosses drop an even spread, the wording made me think the part could be used in every slot.

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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it means that two unique bosses wont drop the same one all the time

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if you did two uniques they would always drop the exact same part

dusky berry Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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ah okay, was thinking that if a heart dropped, you could put in an a eye slot for example

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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nah nah

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we arent creating abberations just yet

dusky berry Dec 20, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Still a nice change, but was thinking whoa, constant metamorph time haha

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:06 PM

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it is indeed

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sadly still not hitting eyes

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👀

low kindle Dec 20, 2019, 5:08 PM

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No it's not what it means

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It means that you will encounter unique organs equally often

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 5:13 PM

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which means yay i can finally drop eyes and livers

grim folio Dec 20, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Can anyone explain the following patch note:

Every Map Boss can now be chosen for all organ types for Metamorph League. This will result in an even distribution of the different organs to use in Tane's Laboratory.

I've run 5 maps now and each time it's the same system as pre-patch. A random organ which is my case is another brain or lung that I have probably 40 of each....

leaden cypress Dec 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Id imagine some bosses could only ever roll eye or lung or maybe some combination of 2-3 organs, but not all 5

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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eyes are a myth

leaden cypress Dec 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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like before id farm sulphur vents because he had like a 50% chance to drop eyes it seemed

grim folio Dec 20, 2019, 5:19 PM

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It literally says "Every Map Boss"

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so either they flat out lied in the patch notes

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or i'm not understanding the mechanic

leaden cypress Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Right - im saying yesterday it might have been limited or some map bosses were specific, and today its not

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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you might have just gotten bad rng today

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youve only done 5 maps

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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i mean

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i havent seen eyes yet

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and i have run around 100 maps so far today

livid lake Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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So before bosses has a specific list of organs that could drop, there was a spreadsheet on the subreddit, but now they can drop any organ.

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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i saw an eye on my first map since the change

grim folio Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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oh, you can't choose

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 5:20 PM

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which was the first eye i had seen since 2 days ago

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so i know the change works

dusky berry Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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They can drop an organ, but is there a rarity still attached to the organs?

livid lake Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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no, its semi poor wording.

dusky berry Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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any*

grim folio Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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so you have 20% chance each kill per organ

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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im slowly reaching the point where im at a full tab full of everything but eyes.

livid lake Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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So it's not they drop an organ that can be used in any slot, its that they now able to DROP any organ.

grim folio Dec 20, 2019, 5:21 PM

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GOT IT

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yeah they worded it badly

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and apparently everyone needs eyes

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i think its weighted or something tho, havent really seen eyes today

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i feel like its weighted

livid lake Dec 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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yep, eyes and livers are the two least organs i have

grim folio Dec 20, 2019, 5:22 PM

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cause I have a 4x tab packed full of brains, lungs... most everything ... with like 3 eyes

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:23 PM

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what even is eyes

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lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Im thinking that conquerers not spawning might be related to m second character and not my first. Anyone else cant spawn em on their second char?

ornate belfry Dec 20, 2019, 5:53 PM

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is it normal that a region is level 3. but im doing yellow/level 2 maps and finding exiles?

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 5:59 PM

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wel everybody it talk to for my issue mentioned i should try mapping in a map version that matches the atlas + stone tiers. So it seems to me that people believe what you are doing isnt possible

ornate belfry Dec 20, 2019, 6:00 PM

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thats what i thought, but i did some lower tier maps cu i wanted to get exp and not die

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and was surprised lol

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 6:01 PM

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my build finaly coming together but i cant test it since they cant spawn for me somehow so i have the opposite problem haha

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 6:03 PM

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shouldnt be able to spawn

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 6:04 PM

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tho is that just people guesing or did a GGG really confirm that u cant?

gloomy bay Dec 20, 2019, 6:10 PM

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How does Jorgin's bench interact with Catalysts? Does it remove the quality?

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 6:11 PM

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it transforms the item, so yes it should

charred bay Dec 20, 2019, 6:11 PM

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does using samples with the same type of reward increase the number of items related to that reward, or should I always go for as many different types of rewards as possible?

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Just used 4 map reward samples (one of which was multiple maps), and only got 3 maps in return.

gloomy bay Dec 20, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Wasn't sure because it keeps the annointments, maybe I'll toss something on an ammy before I transform it to test

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 6:13 PM

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sadly cant test it for you lenz so not sure :/

runic plover Dec 20, 2019, 6:16 PM

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What is the difference between "chest" and "chaos orb" icons on organs while morphing at map?

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 6:18 PM

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look at the text, it tells you the reward more detailed then the icon will

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 6:18 PM

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they said that the icons dont always match the reward text

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something something weird bug

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 6:19 PM

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i have feeling mods dont always match either, it seems morps sometimes have multi projectiles while i avoid selecting parts that have that mod

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but im not sure on that one

fallen nova Dec 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Are metamorphs immune to being frozen now?

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 7:17 PM

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technically yes

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once you go into high red maps their hp becomes so high there isnt a single thing that hits enough to break threshold and freeze them

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 7:19 PM

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this sounds like a job for??? GLACIAL HAMMER

ripe hamlet Dec 20, 2019, 7:20 PM

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should i use the first watchstones in the outer or inner regions? did the first on inner and the maps are kinda +2 tiers, so i guess i can only get them from bosses of connected maps from corner regions?

sacred gate Dec 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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So nothing special happens when you fill the gauge for a metamorph in Tane's laboratory? I'm a bit disappointed.

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 8:04 PM

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@patent canyon did i tell you about the fun metamorph i made my accident

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was unkillable to for my build

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:04 PM

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relatable

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 8:05 PM

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cursed king and life leech

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whenever it morphed to him and he used his ability it would heal to full hp cause im summoner

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:05 PM

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got buffed up one in t16 map, full on dps'ed him for 10s didint break 20% of his shield

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said no and left

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 8:05 PM

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i was dedicated

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got him to 50% and i popped vaal skellies and he used his ability

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he insta healed to 100% zzz

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:06 PM

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you dont use frost bomb on those?

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 8:06 PM

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dont have any available gems sadly

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need them all cause if one thing goes wrong i insta die

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:08 PM

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yeah the damage reduction and damage itself req for red map this league is ridiculous

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:08 PM

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honestly, the maps themselves arent that bad

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metamorphs? yea those are gross

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not as gross as blight bosses, but still gross

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:09 PM

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well blight bosses can be cc'ed for days

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these fuckers regen and can 1 tap you on certain mods

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:09 PM

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blight bosses had a serious habit one 1 tapping as well

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not to mention the fireball spamming fuckers that were always right heind them

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:10 PM

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ohh yeah the fireball chonkers were bs

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:10 PM

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altho tbf, a blight bosses only killed you if you went near them

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they were actually limited in their reach

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i imagine id have more problems w regen and leech this league

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but i run frost bomb and wear sin trek/spec bloodless

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i'll check back in here when i make my first char without those lol

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:11 PM

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frost bomb is a must

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:11 PM

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im more bothered by the sheer amount of visual clutter

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like, i died a lot to attacks i literally just couldnt see bc of the sludge

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:12 PM

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i have no idea how much damage you need to have without f bomb to kill t16s morphs

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:12 PM

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probably pyroclast mine type damage :p

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:12 PM

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assuming you kill it with full mine rotation

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ziggyd

spice cipher Dec 20, 2019, 8:17 PM

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i skip some morphs

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its legit not worth it, hitting them for ridiculous dmg and having them insta regen it back even using frost bomb

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no thx

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:23 PM

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o.o they can regen that much?

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oh hell nah

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:23 PM

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yes

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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now this is the part where i be honest, i dont watch the health bar

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yay dot build

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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thats why frost bomb is a must otherwise the second you stop dps'ing he regens to full

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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so i just check all my dps down and then im dodging

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until my filter destroys my ears

spice cipher Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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thats not gonna cut it, can dot builds do these beefy bois?

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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i havent failed a single metamorph yet

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but im only at AL5 rn

spice cipher Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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act 5?

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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awakening level

spice cipher Dec 20, 2019, 8:26 PM

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oh

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:27 PM

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vortex occ is the big strong

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but very much the epitome of slow and steady wins the race

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 8:35 PM

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vortex not gonna hold up

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it peaks at 1m right? thats really low dps for high reds now

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 8:36 PM

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1m sounds about right for the peak

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idk, im doing my maps just fine for now

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and my metamorphs

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its the conquerors that are starting to give me a hard time

iron spoke Dec 20, 2019, 8:41 PM

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so do eye/livers get found more frequently now?

jaunty wadi Dec 20, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Yup they do

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It’s an equal chance between the five organs

iron spoke Dec 20, 2019, 8:46 PM

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dope

jaunty wadi Dec 20, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Now I wonder what’s the best combo of organs in the lab

iron spoke Dec 20, 2019, 8:46 PM

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maximum currency

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i've gotten multiple "drops a breachstone" but they've all been esh templarSad

jaunty wadi Dec 20, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Ya thought so too, seems like not the case

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What helps tho is the organs from certain harder bosses seem to give better results

iron spoke Dec 20, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Like independent of map tier just based on difficulty of boss?

jaunty wadi Dec 20, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Ya

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I have a feeling u need to combine organs from the bosses that are in the achievements for the league

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Cuz I noticed that whenever I got an achievement completed the bosses in the lab dropped good stuff

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Like exalts/ancient orbs

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One morph dropped 2 exalts in a map, wish I was recording to see the combo I used

cursive widget Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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sirus only summons 3 storms right and then he goes into the last phase after 50% hp left?

marsh oracle Dec 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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"why everyone having problem with life regen?"

said the occultist witch

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 9:02 PM

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anyone know if sirus still instantly kills minions from his death clouds?

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 9:04 PM

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no organs dont drop in equal measure, i have not seen eyes drop all day @iron spoke

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its probly weighted

iron spoke Dec 20, 2019, 9:07 PM

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ah alright. yeah i played a bit last night after patch dropped and didnt get any but figured i was just unlucky. a shame.

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 9:27 PM

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all my "drop breachstone" have come out tul

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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still to see any of those "good" rewards

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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what qualifies as “good”

patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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those 6l unique items

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breachstone stuff

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 9:33 PM

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breach stone is basically the only good one I’ve seen

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haven’t even gotten a high roll from currency/proph

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I did get an i82 shaped ring once

void thicket Dec 20, 2019, 9:39 PM

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What's the point of weighting organs

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It's such a weird design choice

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It made sense in legion because you could still run the other emblems without having all 5

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Do they want you to just trash organs because there will always be significantly fewer eyes and therefore a large excess of other organs

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Not like you can make half a metamorph

long juniper Dec 20, 2019, 9:44 PM

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hey

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how do we uncomplete a map in metamophosis ?

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apparently its changed

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 9:45 PM

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they probs think rewards are would be too gold if u can run alot of metamorphs

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 9:45 PM

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you can’t incomplete afaik

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they removed the orb

lucid haven Dec 20, 2019, 9:46 PM

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dunno, but they defenatly dont drop equal coz i havent seen eyes in 9 hours

hoary wave Dec 20, 2019, 10:05 PM

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does anyone know if you can continue to get watchstones/kill elderslayers while you have a sirus fight ready? or do i have to fight him to continue getting elderslayer spawns

runic zephyr Dec 20, 2019, 10:26 PM

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i thought the rng bias was a conspiracy theory from crazy redditors, but im starting to get paranoid too... wtf is this

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patent canyon Dec 20, 2019, 10:32 PM

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pfff

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not even 2 rows of same shit

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 10:36 PM

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my tab i use for maps the right side is maps that i havent completed awakening bonus yet

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wonder when they gonna add awakening bonus to map tab

steel gull Dec 20, 2019, 10:47 PM

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how do you do the defeat the hunter w/o causing tunneling vipers to emerge challenge?

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it seems like there's a stage where you're forced to stand still but I can't seem to figure out the audio cue

storm veldt Dec 20, 2019, 11:12 PM

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im stuck trying to progress

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i have no idea what im doing even after watching multiple videos

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 11:16 PM

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wlel let me explain then

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what do u need help with?

raven yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 11:19 PM

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hey, how can i change organ now ?

red wharf Dec 20, 2019, 11:34 PM

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ooof, seems vortex isnt exactly best skill for blighted maps. Any tips?

grand helm Dec 20, 2019, 11:36 PM

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how

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do

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you

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get

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eyes!!!

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wtf

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ful tabs of lungs hearts and brains... not a single eye

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 11:37 PM

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rng

grand helm Dec 20, 2019, 11:37 PM

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your right

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 11:38 PM

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its worse than be4

grand helm Dec 20, 2019, 11:38 PM

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i could play for 2 years and not get a single one

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 11:38 PM

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be4 change u can target farm eyes

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now its just shitty rng

vocal basin Dec 20, 2019, 11:44 PM

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when will they fix this

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havent had a eye yet

steel gull Dec 21, 2019, 12:01 AM

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it's not completely rng

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check pins

silver kettle Dec 21, 2019, 12:12 AM

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it's meant to now be complete RNG as of last night's patch

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doesn't seem to have quite worked

fallow raptor Dec 21, 2019, 12:13 AM

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i havent had any influence spawn in about 15 maps today

lucid haven Dec 21, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Are you running maps that are same level as they are on your atlas? Do you have any of the quest going and are you trying to do different maps of diferent regions?

fallow raptor Dec 21, 2019, 12:17 AM

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yeah all 14-16s

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i have about 7 stones to get

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this is by far the longest stretch i've had of no conquerer sighting

lucid haven Dec 21, 2019, 12:18 AM

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pm me when you find the solution, i played my char lv 1-90 without any sight.

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91 now actually

fallow raptor Dec 21, 2019, 12:19 AM

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it was fine before, but seems different after the patch, i could just be getting unlucky i guess

wide totem Dec 21, 2019, 12:39 AM

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What happens if you die in tane's lab? Do you lose the fight and the materials?

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 12:49 AM

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yea

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???

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grand helm Dec 21, 2019, 1:35 AM

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i bet metamorph eye's are expensive 😦

fallow raptor Dec 21, 2019, 1:42 AM

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my citadels are disapearing as well @wary smelt

fallow raptor Dec 21, 2019, 1:59 AM

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this time it didnt even reappear after i killed the conq in the area

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nm, its just literally off the screen under some UI element

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i wonder if it moved there when the influence spanwed and i didnt zoom in to see it

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Christ I cannot understand the atlas at all

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This means I just need to run any area without any watchstone socketed right

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I've done a few maps and the conqueror didn't appear

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The one for the blue

next epoch Dec 21, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Run maps within that region while there are no watchstone socketed

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:39 AM

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All the regions show the same thing

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As in all of them show the blue = 0 watch stone required

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I hovered over all of them

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This is tirn's end and it shows the same thing

languid path Dec 21, 2019, 2:41 AM

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are you running the 0 stone version of those maps?

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Yes

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I ran like 4 in new vastir

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no one showed up

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Am I supposed to keep doing till someone shows up?

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I don't know if I am doing something wrong

cursive widget Dec 21, 2019, 2:41 AM

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I think its random

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for influence to spawn

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tbh

languid path Dec 21, 2019, 2:41 AM

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are you at 16+ stones?

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:41 AM

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No, just 3 stones

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I'm still at the very start

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I unlocked all the watchtowers

languid path Dec 21, 2019, 2:42 AM

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then it should be a guarantee

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try remaking hideout

cursive widget Dec 21, 2019, 2:42 AM

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I think its random for first influence and then if you havent started sirus yet its guarantee for two more maps then citadel fight

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:42 AM

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I already have 4 stones

cursive widget Dec 21, 2019, 2:42 AM

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and then if you have fought sirus, its random, and then 33% chance

languid path Dec 21, 2019, 2:43 AM

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no it's always 3 maps per zone guarantee before sirus fight

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Yeah at 4 maps

languid path Dec 21, 2019, 2:44 AM

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there was a bug with the 4th conqueror not spawning that ggg fixed a few days ago

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so try that

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Ok so now it's like this

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how do I pick which regions to get the blue stone?

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 2:50 AM

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u already selected a region

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each of the 4 sets to the left is a region

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Each of the region shows the same exact pop up for those without stones

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So do I just pick one and do maps?

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To get the blue stone?

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 2:51 AM

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trhats the name of the region

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so to get blue in this region u have to run maps without any watchstones inserted

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:52 AM

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I hovered over all the other regions

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it shows the same pop up

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 2:52 AM

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thats cuz depends on how many watchstones of each type u have

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past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:52 AM

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The blue one means I don't need to socket anything right

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 2:52 AM

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correct

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:52 AM

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to get someone to show up

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Do I keep farming those areas until somehow shows up?

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I'm at like 8 maps and nobody is showing up

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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u have any watchstones currently inserted?

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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No

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Do I need to insert them?

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 2:54 AM

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did u get all 4 of the watchstones from the edges of map?

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:54 AM

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I haven't gotten the one at the bottom left

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 2:55 AM

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try running maps there then

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Ok thank you

past obsidian Dec 21, 2019, 3:32 AM

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@wary smelt You were right I got my blue stone

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Thanks man

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 3:33 AM

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np

sullen whale Dec 21, 2019, 4:02 AM

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So I'm utterly fucking frustrated with my atlast right now

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I can't seem to spawn any gaurdians in the haewark hamlet/new vastir/trin's end/lex proima quadrants of the atlas

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and stuck on The Crusader / The Warlord parts of the questline

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any ideas on how much of a fucking idiot I am?

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 4:40 AM

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take a screenshot of ur atlas

sullen whale Dec 21, 2019, 4:50 AM

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I suspect I figured out a portion of the issue, which was actually shifting the four sockets to one of those zones I wanted a homie to pop in, but idk running Glennach Cairns and I'm like 6 maps deep with no spawn on anything

void thicket Dec 21, 2019, 6:43 AM

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uhhhh

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is there any reason the metamorph i created in tane's lab dropped like ... none of the things i had plugged in lol

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is there any mechanic at play here or just a bug

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i had at least 8 "drops currency" mods on my organs and the only currency that dropped was a portal scroll

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 6:47 AM

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can't seem to spawn the next conq in lex ejoris, not sure why. I've done multiple different maps already on it, no other influence active, and 2 socketed watchstones as the yellow stone says, yet nothing. Would it be better to go for 3 watchstone as a catch-all? or is it very specific

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deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:38 AM

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how do i get material for tane's lab?

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i always have lots of levtover when going through area

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but nothign show up on tane's lab

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:43 AM

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@deep widget I'm assuming you're done with the story line and mapping now?

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:43 AM

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yes

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:43 AM

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so the organs you collect in map is separate from the ones you use in tane's lab

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when you're in a map and inputting organs into the capsule thingy

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you'll see a bar at the right side of that window

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it fills up as you put organs in it

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the rarity of the organ will depend how much of the bar gets filled per organ

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if you manage to fill it up to the top and have it be glowy and stuff

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then the metamorph boss you'll spawn will drop a unique organ which can be used in tane's lab

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:45 AM

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hoooooooooooo, btw is there anywhere i can find and read more about this mechanic?

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:45 AM

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not to my knowledge

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:45 AM

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really appreaciate u explaining it tho!

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:45 AM

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there are probably a lot of videos about it on YT already

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:45 AM

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its just i feel like i am still missing lots of information other than about the one i ask

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hmm

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to youtube i go

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:45 AM

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well that's nothing much more as of now I think

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:46 AM

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what about catalyst?

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:46 AM

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catalyst is a whole different thing afaik

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:46 AM

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is it something you get from tane lab

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thats what i assume

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lol

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:46 AM

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I think it's from legion

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:46 AM

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oh its not

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:46 AM

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could be wrong

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:47 AM

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its cheap so its shouldnt be rare, but i havent found a single one, thats why i am curious and just realize i havent checked tane lab till today

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:47 AM

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oh and one last thing about the unique organs

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:47 AM

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and that follow to me going there and to this place asking about the mechanic

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:47 AM

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you can't target farm them anymore afaik

coarse moon Dec 21, 2019, 8:47 AM

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catalysts are from metamorphs, any body part, map or lab

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organs sometimes just say "contains additional catalysts"

deep widget Dec 21, 2019, 8:48 AM

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HOOOOOO

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thanks for the info

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really lvoe the recent update , cause I use to be too lazy to pick all parts

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 8:49 AM

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yep it's a god send

cursive glen Dec 21, 2019, 8:52 AM

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how does map drops work now? If i only want red maps from a region, do I unsocket everything else?

solid thunder Dec 21, 2019, 9:01 AM

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you get red maps when 4 stones are there

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in that region

cinder leaf Dec 21, 2019, 9:01 AM

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I think he means he wants red maps only in a specific region

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not the whole lot

solid thunder Dec 21, 2019, 9:02 AM

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he can put 4 there

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will only be

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that region

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at 12 watchstones i think the whole atlas is red

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at 4 only a specific region

versed fjord Dec 21, 2019, 10:08 AM

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why is this a thing.. https://i.imgur.com/hUqzrd4.png

charred talon Dec 21, 2019, 10:08 AM

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So the notes mention something about being able to choose organs so you get a better balance? But I haven't got a single eye/liver in awhile, am I missing something?

barren jacinth Dec 21, 2019, 10:30 AM

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Yeah they don't seem to work

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I have a question, I have my atlas area coloured which means there's a conqueror there.

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I've already had 2 foreplay talks in those areas but conqueror didn't spawn yet

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Does it have to be the same map as conqueror talked first?

echo flame Dec 21, 2019, 10:45 AM

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No, it's random maps in that zone

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And you can't spam the same one

barren jacinth Dec 21, 2019, 10:47 AM

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wtf it spawned

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and yet again it didn't drop watchstone

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oh im stupid

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i already got 4 in that region

dire rivet Dec 21, 2019, 10:56 AM

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should i socket watchstones as i get them does anyone know?

barren jacinth Dec 21, 2019, 11:12 AM

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as soon as you get all maps completed yeah

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and you should keep up the area level to spawn more watchstones

patent canyon Dec 21, 2019, 12:18 PM

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is this finally one of those "good" rewards 🤔

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POG

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autumn snow Dec 21, 2019, 12:23 PM

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🤔

patent canyon Dec 21, 2019, 12:25 PM

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the rewards description was correct

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harby orb is indeed valuable, not sure about 1% of the orb tho 🤔

elder bough Dec 21, 2019, 1:49 PM

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I'm trying to understand this league's mechanics

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I'm on the quest step "The Crusader", it says to "defeat Baran in his Citadel"

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I talked to Zana, opened a map, cleared it, went through the portal to a sanctum and killed Baran

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Got my watchstone

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What am I supposed to do now? Keep running maps looking for him again?

eager terrace Dec 21, 2019, 1:52 PM

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yeah basically

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try to progress to the corner regions

elder bough Dec 21, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Huh, the red highlight is gone in that part of the atlas

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The quest step changes too, inside the map it says "You've entered his sanctum, now kill him" and outside it says something about trying to find Baran

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Anyone else have problems with sustaining red maps? Yellow ones no issue but red it does not drop for me. I had like 20ish and burned them out without sustaining. I was using scarabs/Sacs and sextans

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If someone who is doing red maps can show their atlas that would be nice

runic zephyr Dec 21, 2019, 2:28 PM

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are they gonna do something about that? i thought its a meme but jesus it hurts lol

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high pike Dec 21, 2019, 2:35 PM

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chrisThinking

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halcyon veldt Dec 21, 2019, 3:01 PM

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wait, what does that bar mean in the metamorph lab?

tawny pasture Dec 21, 2019, 3:08 PM

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metamorph boss

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so far i got 3 eye total

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 3:16 PM

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It sucks. There is a site to see which boss drops eye. But i had few times where i had unique eye and it did not dropped for me after i killed boss.

void thicket Dec 21, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Would you happen to know which site that is

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 3:21 PM

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https://poeromp.github.io/organ_finder/

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or if you like spreadsheets https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xThZALWG2AgldSDhrcafzOtou4Vgrf-KXBlYwAD30I8/edit#gid=0

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TURI POE 3.9 Atlas

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Map Name,Base Tier,Region,# Bosses,Boss Name,Done?,Eye,Liver,Lung,Heart,Brain
Beach Map,1,4,8,10,14,Glennach Cairns,Glace,1,1,1,0,0
Jungle Valley Map,1,4,8,10,14,Lex Proxima,Queen of the Great Tangle,1,0,1,0,0
Pier Map,1,4,8,10,14,Valdo's Rest,Ancient Architect,1,1,0,...

agile pumice Dec 21, 2019, 3:47 PM

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oh i'm glad that i'm not the only one who never gets eyes

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i thought i was doing something wrong

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zenith warren Dec 21, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Shouldnt all bosses since the patch now have the same chance to dropp all organs?

tawny pasture Dec 21, 2019, 3:56 PM

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yup

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should

elder bough Dec 21, 2019, 3:59 PM

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How many times do I have to kill Baran?

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 4:07 PM

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I got 0 eyes and i am mapping last 5-6 hours or so

pliant stream Dec 21, 2019, 4:08 PM

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its disgusting

solemn fox Dec 21, 2019, 4:20 PM

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about 100 maps in, no eyes

agile pumice Dec 21, 2019, 4:24 PM

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maybe they bugged it, and now all organs share the same drop chance, except eyes is 0%

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Is there maybe some spot ( not in map) to fast farming organs? Maybe with highish chance to get eye?

solemn fox Dec 21, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I didn't want to play build-a-boss anyways!

royal scaffold Dec 21, 2019, 5:18 PM

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What catalyst does poison damage fall under, caster modifiers or attack modifiers?

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Organ says "Unique jewellery" and i got belt wtf

copper kernel Dec 21, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Belts are jewellery

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 5:45 PM

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weird. Did not know that. Would make more sense to say "Accessories"

gloomy ivy Dec 21, 2019, 5:52 PM

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so can someone pelase explain this part of the patch notes to me?

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Atlas Citadels are now only hidden when the boss encounter is available. This allows you to change your Watchstones and apply Sextants with more freedom.

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the citadel disappeared as soon as influence went into the zone.. which is exactly how it worked before..

lone star Dec 21, 2019, 6:13 PM

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No

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Now the citadel is only hidden after the boss encounter becomes available, not as soon as the area is influenced.

gloomy ivy Dec 21, 2019, 6:21 PM

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@lone star right thats my understanding as well, but its not the case on my atlas

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lone star Dec 21, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Can you talk to Kiran?

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Boss fight might be available

gloomy ivy Dec 21, 2019, 6:48 PM

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nope it isnt it just popped

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same thing happened last night and i just assumed it was a fluke, but today its continuing to be a problem

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I mean when you get influence on some zone your citadel is locked until you kill elderslayer

versed fjord Dec 21, 2019, 6:59 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/V8AOsxo.png

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love it.. zz

gloomy ivy Dec 21, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@high pike but doesnt that contradict the part i just posted from the patch notes?

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Well they said they changed organs drop and it's still same.

patent canyon Dec 21, 2019, 7:10 PM

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its worse

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before you could go into specific maps and go for 50/50

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now its 20% for it

noble crystal Dec 21, 2019, 7:15 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AI3UqIPDao

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violet nymph Dec 21, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Someone mind telling me how to spawn this guy. Ive ran 50 maps in this area and he hasn't popped up once

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wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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you have to get lucky

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really low chances

coarse moon Dec 21, 2019, 8:04 PM

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ye

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man it feels bad having to pass up on good organs just so i can finally get an eye

charred talon Dec 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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So the catalysts on my amulet reset as I reroll it?

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Wish I'd known that

elder oyster Dec 21, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Has there been any mention of when Freeze on metamorphs will be fixed?

small mirage Dec 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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so is the autocollect feature not 100% reliable

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vast gazelle Dec 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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It is, they still haven't 100% fixed the bug where it displays uncollectible parts

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Is the problem

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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welp learned something new tane has no unique organs in maps where the elder guardians are at

vast gazelle Dec 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Yeah it's sad I want to collect the purifiers brain and fight him

low kindle Dec 21, 2019, 8:32 PM

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How do you use the limited use unique watchstones? Do they go in place of one of 4?

wary smelt Dec 21, 2019, 8:35 PM

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wish they would fix the bug where u get low tier maps from metamorphs

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next epoch Dec 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Not just from metamorphs. A lot, possibly all, of the other "reward" mechanisms that can grant maps (like delve chests and legion) are giving weird results as well. And Zana missions behave kind of strangely as well -- I've seen a bunch of them spawn as "shaped" maps which shouldn't exist at all

eternal laurel Dec 21, 2019, 8:58 PM

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does it take a lot to spawn the tier 4 conqueror in an area? I've run 10-20 maps with 4 watchstones without seeing anything.. Its difficult to get that many tier 14-16 maps to do this forever...

high pike Dec 21, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Naah this thing is bugged. i am putting only unique eye in and it won't drop eye. This happened many times today

autumn snow Dec 21, 2019, 9:08 PM

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@wary smelt it's not a bug

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league mechanics never respect drop rules

frigid holly Dec 21, 2019, 9:13 PM

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How do I get tier 6+ maps? I've socketed the four watchstomes (1 in each start earea) from the first 4 conquerors, but although my atlas shopws those regions as tier 6+ none of my maps have chnaged tier (and goping there they are still level 68-72 areas). New maps dropping in thise regions are still tier 1-5. What am I missing?

autumn snow Dec 21, 2019, 9:16 PM

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@frigid holly you can only get t6 from t4 & higher tier maps

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they should drop naturally

frigid holly Dec 21, 2019, 9:17 PM

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so if I run T4s in the upgraded sector (which my atlas shows as T9) they can drop a map of the same name as alow tier map but of the upgraded tier?

next epoch Dec 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Not quite, because a T4 map area can't drop a T9

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But it can drop a T6 map within the upgraded region.

spice cipher Dec 21, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I’m having this issue, sorta , myself

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I have 4 watch stones but only seen 2 conquerers

limpid cipher Dec 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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any good youtuber explains the new atlas?

spice cipher Dec 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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No idea where to socket

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There is pinned I believe

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Just haven’t watched it myself yet

frigid holly Dec 21, 2019, 9:22 PM

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So in the map stash tab I cvan have the same map (by name) in multiple slots because it can occur at 3 different tiers?

spice cipher Dec 21, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Should be pinned but I don’t see it

autumn snow Dec 21, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@frigid holly the map drop rules are: tier + 2 from bosses, tier + 1 from rare & magic mobs and same tier from white mobs

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so a map tier 4 will only drop up to t6 (from boss only)

next epoch Dec 21, 2019, 9:23 PM

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@frigid holly Correct. The map items have a tier "baked into" them; they don't change just because your atlas changed

mossy plume Dec 21, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Can we trade with the organs?

bleak crypt Dec 21, 2019, 9:51 PM

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hey guys, what are the requirements for spawning sirius. i thought its having 16 watchstones but im far beyond that and im spamming t16 maps for hours alrdy

sullen whale Dec 21, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I'm having a similar issue, some folks are saying run 1-5s to get it to "work" others are saying yellows. I've done a mix of both and at least 50 red maps with NOTHING happening at first I thought I was a big idiot, but it's more than likely a bug. A frustrating one at that.

vital trellis Dec 21, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Does anyone know if the drops-additional-currency organs with a chaos icon vs a chest icon mean different things?

autumn snow Dec 21, 2019, 10:20 PM

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it's the same

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chest icon can be different things, currency icon is always currency

gloomy ivy Dec 21, 2019, 10:52 PM

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@violet nymph try running 3-4 white maps in that zone then go back to red. it sounds bizarre but it worked for me (suggestion from reddit)

icy carbon Dec 21, 2019, 10:59 PM

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Which of the metamorph abilities would you say should be avoided? I had some deaths with necrotic barrage (if that's the black explody crawler boys) and shard bust.

vital trellis Dec 21, 2019, 11:01 PM

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On higher tiers I'm avoiding life regen b/c it makes them take forever to die

lean wind Dec 21, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Wait. So I just fought a dude for a watchstone. Baran, red guy. Didn't drop a watchstone for me, and now my atlas says I have obtained that one. I'm still missing one other watchstone from that area from Hezmin. Can we spawn influence from dudes, from which we have collected stones from, even though theres still some missing from that region?

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If you can catch my drift.

slim marlin Dec 21, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Is freeze still bugged for metamorphs?

lean wind Dec 21, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Yes

slim marlin Dec 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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notLikeThis

lean wind Dec 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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ye it's rough as coc ice nova lol

slim marlin Dec 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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playing ice shot

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i i just get 1 shot

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if they dont freeze

lean wind Dec 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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it's rippy doing them

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but hey, it doesn't matter. Not like we're getting any eyes anyway LUL

slim marlin Dec 21, 2019, 11:11 PM

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yea lmao

spice cipher Dec 21, 2019, 11:12 PM

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@vital trellis extra life and regen is cancer , same with es based stuff

next epoch Dec 21, 2019, 11:23 PM

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@lean wind Yes, I believe you can spawn warlords that won't give you a watchstone. Collecting watchstones is permanent, after all, and it'd be crazy to only allow you to fight each one eight times (once per region) ever

slender temple Dec 21, 2019, 11:34 PM

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@lean wind talk to zana to get missing watchstones

wary smelt Dec 22, 2019, 12:10 AM

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hey guys does the warlord fight go away if i dont do it for a few maps? trying to level be4 fighting it

gloomy ivy Dec 22, 2019, 1:24 AM

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i can see again boys

dapper goblet Dec 22, 2019, 1:39 AM

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What are they for?

river sandal Dec 22, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Waht do ya get from filling up the bar in laboratory when summoning a metamorph with high ilvl?

dapper goblet Dec 22, 2019, 1:39 AM

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I see a lot of people going for the eyes? But what do they do?

river sandal Dec 22, 2019, 1:39 AM

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eye's are just rare atm is all

ionic yacht Dec 22, 2019, 2:20 AM

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So what's the point in reaching endgame with Sirus if you just get cornered with storms

gloomy ivy Dec 22, 2019, 2:26 AM

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anyone else finding it insanely difficult to spawn influence since the patch?

silver kettle Dec 22, 2019, 2:46 AM

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@ionic yacht I haven't got to try this strat yet but it looks like this guy has cracked how to handle the storms. https://youtu.be/RlmZQdX323E

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wintry berry Dec 22, 2019, 2:52 AM

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anybody know what the metamorph slug ability is called

ionic yacht Dec 22, 2019, 3:01 AM

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I suppose a majority of the issue is how to get back if/when you die

next epoch Dec 22, 2019, 3:39 AM

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... huh. If you have the atlas screen open while you open a map, you see a visual effect if there's a watchstone active on the map, as if you'd reinserted the watchstone

wary smelt Dec 22, 2019, 4:45 AM

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@silver kettle this was something new they added last patch apparently

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where the storm gets pushed away

eager terrace Dec 22, 2019, 7:42 AM

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pretty sure that's not new

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he pushes storms out of his area if he is phased

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I think they just added the ring to show you what the size of the area is

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but I also think it won't let you phase him if he is too close to one

pearl iris Dec 22, 2019, 8:06 AM

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How am i supposed to get to fight awakener again after the first time? Conqueror influences spawning in just fine but then nothing happens. They do not appear inside their influenced maps or anything

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Am i supposed to be doing something else than try to get them to spawn inside their influence?

eager terrace Dec 22, 2019, 8:08 AM

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it's not guaranteed to track them per map after 16 watchstones

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you have a 33% chance per map to track them

fierce path Dec 22, 2019, 8:10 AM

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hey, If I got 3 watchstones in 1 of the 8 areas, maps are like T12+, can I still run ike a T4 to make influence appear / conueror spawn ?

halcyon lantern Dec 22, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Anyone used catalysts to craft yet?

eager terrace Dec 22, 2019, 8:21 AM

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I dunno how far down you can go and still spawn

halcyon lantern Dec 22, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Seems that only some currencies use up the quality but does it affect chaosing and stuff

eager terrace Dec 22, 2019, 8:21 AM

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I just know that I've used a T14 to spawn a citadel when that map was T16 in region at the time

kindred prawn Dec 22, 2019, 9:36 AM

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im so confused on some of the higher end mechanics of the new atlas. is anyone around that can help?

chrome thicket Dec 22, 2019, 9:42 AM

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my sirus refuse to land, he just floats around and shoots stuff
am i screwed?

void thicket Dec 22, 2019, 10:25 AM

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does filling the bar to full in tane's laboratory (if it's even possible, i would imagine it fills more with higher ilvl organs?) do anything special

storm smelt Dec 22, 2019, 10:37 AM

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I thought that patch was supposed to make it so eyes are as common as the rest?

lucid haven Dec 22, 2019, 10:37 AM

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they arent, its probly bugged

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@kindred prawn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4MX7EKHhuc grimro has a nice video on it

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kindred prawn Dec 22, 2019, 10:38 AM

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@lucid haven Watched it already actually. Think it's just a matter of luck and RNG at that point.

void thicket Dec 22, 2019, 10:52 AM

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there are ways to force eyes to drop but if left unforced, they drop more rarely from what i've seen

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i don't think it's bugged, they probably just weighted it

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they said that the patch made it so any boss can drop any organ

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not that any boss will drop any organ at 20% chance

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so while every boss can now drop eyes, they may only drop eyes 5% of the time, as opposed to 0% from the last patch

languid river Dec 22, 2019, 11:34 AM

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I am having an issue with spawning Sirus. I have the 16 watchstones, but there's no quest from Zana or anyone?

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Didn't the quest have to appear when I got my 16th stone?

pseudo cedar Dec 22, 2019, 11:47 AM

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This new atlas progression is really confusing, the previous atlas is easier to learn and understand evem for beginnera

whole grotto Dec 22, 2019, 11:58 AM

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is there anything I can do to move a cloud that is on top of the entrance of Sirius arena?

hot gyro Dec 22, 2019, 12:01 PM

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did you get the new sextant instat or what ?

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inner schooner Dec 22, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Can I spawn conqueror influence while sirus's citadel is active?

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 12:27 PM

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🥺

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gray zealot Dec 22, 2019, 12:57 PM

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whats the point of shiversting

grim basalt Dec 22, 2019, 1:01 PM

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does somebody know how to exactly spawn the awakener for the first time? I found and socketed 16 watchstones and obviously killed all 4 conquerers (otherwise I wouldnt have watchstones right?) but I dont get any further quest from zana...

red wharf Dec 22, 2019, 1:19 PM

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is there a way to buy just eyes on official trade? seems all organs are clumped under 'captured beast' category

grim basalt Dec 22, 2019, 1:21 PM

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PoE.trade, the other website, let's you filter for eyes

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But not for specific mods unfortunately

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 2:02 PM

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on official they are listed as captured beasts

red wharf Dec 22, 2019, 2:05 PM

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@high pike just like i said 🙂 the problem is if you select this category and write 'eye', it wont show results

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 2:11 PM

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@red wharf Actually they added new item category. But still can't search just "eye". But if you list you can find below in captured beast "Musky "Two-Eyes" Grenn" that's 1 eye sample. Also you can search them via name

cerulean halo Dec 22, 2019, 5:13 PM

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how do i find high tier maps to buy on poe trade?

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 5:23 PM

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@cerulean halo http://prntscr.com/qecf1d Put there tier that you looking for and name above if you are searching for some specific map

Lightshot

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

vagrant grove Dec 22, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Im pretty sure eyes will be fixed on monday

cerulean halo Dec 22, 2019, 5:34 PM

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ty

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 5:37 PM

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So about Drox. I destroy every other conqueror but Drox... i don't get those banners and why i deal zdps on them even tho it's says they are vulnerable to chaos damage and i am playing ED

pearl iris Dec 22, 2019, 6:17 PM

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What part of the banners are the problem for people? Spotting/realising they are in play or actually nuking them down?

dusty umbra Dec 22, 2019, 6:20 PM

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They have quite a bit of hp

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Same goes for drox himself

vast gazelle Dec 22, 2019, 6:23 PM

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ED tends to struggle with bullet sponges

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and drox is The Bullet Sponge Boss

pearl iris Dec 22, 2019, 6:32 PM

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What dmg is all that shit on awakener fight?

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Some sort of hybrid phys/chaos degen?

slender temple Dec 22, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Drox takes the hits but he's the easiest conq

vast gazelle Dec 22, 2019, 6:37 PM

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baran is easiest IMO but id rate it uh

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baran < drox < veritania ~= al hezmin

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one or the other will be worse depending on how your mechanics are and if you abuse ci

slender temple Dec 22, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I literally just stand there and drox dies zero Strat my tec slam hits all his stupid banners and second jugg spectres and zombies help too

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Yeah i get overwhelmed by banners at one point.

vast gazelle Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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not all of us are multiboxing ;D

slender temple Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Alnhezmin probably second easiest with poison immunity

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Baran and and angel girl I have to soko

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Solo

vast gazelle Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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even level 4 drox the only attack i care about dodging is the big slam

slender temple Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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They kill second char

vast gazelle Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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and most of the time that wont kill me as a squishy

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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He can't touch me i am really tanky. 8k ES 22k Evasion

vast gazelle Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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its just a slog

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christ

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 6:38 PM

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but i can't touch him either

patent canyon Dec 22, 2019, 6:39 PM

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gently molest him

slender temple Dec 22, 2019, 6:40 PM

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My dps sucks atm tho I need more exalts

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 6:40 PM

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speaking of exalts

slender temple Dec 22, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Using five link chest and still only have 25% Phys to fire

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 6:41 PM

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i need to brag a bit. First good drop from Meta. I got Koams from Lab Meta tho

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It was blue divination card organ

slender temple Dec 22, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Nice

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Time to finish your build haha

high pike Dec 22, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I think i will keep it for now. I have most of gear i wanted. I need LVL4 empower only.

pale verge Dec 22, 2019, 7:04 PM

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so where do i put the stones? middle or corners first?\

vast gazelle Dec 22, 2019, 7:25 PM

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imo take the first set of stones and put em in the 4 middle areas

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and just alternate inner outer

next epoch Dec 22, 2019, 7:42 PM

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@vast gazelle With a caveat. Once you've got eight stones, you have to double up stones in one region (preferably an inner region) to spawn the next conqueror. Otherwise you end up with one stone in each region and every region requiring two stones to spawn

pliant stream Dec 22, 2019, 7:44 PM

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did ggg made a statement or something, about increasing drop chance of eyes or anything similiar? just curious, if anyone red something

gentle onyx Dec 22, 2019, 7:45 PM

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no, they did a patch on Friday and went home, I wouldn't expect any real statements for a bit

pliant stream Dec 22, 2019, 7:46 PM

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thats so freaking annoying. collecting hearts and brains over and over and over, but just had two times the oportunity to make one in the lab since this whole leauge

gentle onyx Dec 22, 2019, 7:46 PM

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a few maps still drop a lot of eyes, like Coves and Jungle Valley

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try to run them red if you can though, to make the bar easy to fill

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sucks, but its a workaround for now

pliant stream Dec 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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will try them, thank you:)

next epoch Dec 22, 2019, 7:49 PM

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like a sailor after a terrible fishing accident, we need an eye patch

wary smelt Dec 22, 2019, 7:52 PM

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what's the difference between dropping additional maps vs drops a map item?

next epoch Dec 22, 2019, 7:52 PM

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map items include things like chisels

wary smelt Dec 22, 2019, 7:53 PM

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oh...... guessing drop additional maps better than?

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wait nvm maps are bugged

floral oxide Dec 22, 2019, 9:16 PM

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can someone explain to me how mapping/using the red/blue/green/yellow orb to boost level works?

spice cipher Dec 22, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Look up ziz video about it

cinder leaf Dec 22, 2019, 10:10 PM

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the big beam from sirus, one of it is stacks of corrupted blood right?

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can anyone confirm? or is it just straight bleed?

dusty umbra Dec 22, 2019, 10:53 PM

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@slender temple i'd say chaos is easiest one for ranged

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his attacks literally do nothing if u dodge pool/snakes

carmine merlin Dec 22, 2019, 11:04 PM

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can you only fight metamorph once per area

next epoch Dec 22, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Correct

carmine merlin Dec 22, 2019, 11:10 PM

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i see, then what do the descriptions on the slots mean? short/med/long delay/etc

next epoch Dec 22, 2019, 11:19 PM

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@carmine merlin The parts you put in are associated with abilities that the metamorph gets. Each ability is on a different cooldown

carmine merlin Dec 22, 2019, 11:24 PM

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ah gotcha

cerulean halo Dec 22, 2019, 11:31 PM

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I got all 4 things from the outside of the map, how do I get the inner guys to spawn now

next epoch Dec 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

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How many stones do you have total?

cerulean halo Dec 22, 2019, 11:52 PM

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9

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untold abyss Dec 23, 2019, 12:10 AM

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the conqueror spawn is random or what ?

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:12 AM

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is this the channel for map help or nah

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cause im stagnating on red maps

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hard

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:14 AM

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i can help though

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what's wrong

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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i had a linear prog to red maps, using the inner areas

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one watchstone, then waited until i had 2 sitting to socket, then 3, so on and so forth

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so now my inner areas had 1 2 3 and 4 socketed

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:15 AM

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just take a screen shot

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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its not letting me post it

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weird

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:17 AM

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looks like ur new to this discord. have to be 10 mins be4 images i think

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ok i got ur image what u need help with?

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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im trying to go deeper into red maps, but i cant sustain tehm

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or even progress itno the outer areas, which i tried socketing into them as you can see on bottom left

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basically trying to finish my watchstones but i need outer maps to do that

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and it doesn't feel right to revert back to like t5 and run those to get it to spawn

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:20 AM

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so ur trying to get more watchstones?

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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What's your atlas completion % at?

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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89%

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/658463143038681088/658463163045642280/unknown.png?width=1223&height=677

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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9 on awakened

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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that's his map

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he needs to work on the bonuses but 89 isnt that bad yet

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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89 feels low, I'm at 92 and I've only run one or two red maps

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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but u want more bonus if u want red map sustain

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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ive run a lot of red maps, maybe like 30-40? had shaper guardian and elder guardian spawn

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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u wanna work on finishing thos maps and getting the bonuses done

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crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:23 AM

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so do i need to revert back to like t5 maps and run those?

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or is there a way I can bridge other maps to red then have those drop as red, and go from there

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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theyy changed it now that u get maps from the same region as the map ur running

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unless u've done that map be4

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so if u want the maps u havent run be4 to drop ur gonna have to run maps in same region

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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or trade

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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or that

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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yeah i havent bought maps this league so far

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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this late trade is gonna be easier

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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was trying to avoid that imo

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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https://poemap.live/ makes map trading trivial

PoeMap

Map exchange service for Path of Exile

topaz plover Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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is it normal that u cant freeze red tier bosses ?

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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yeah i tried that and it never worked for me

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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poemaps.live kinda sucks now with new atlas

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it's too late into league and red maps are a clusterfuck

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 12:26 AM

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it's worked fine for me, at least for low tier maps 🙂 got offers within seconds for most stuff

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:26 AM

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its like a week into league

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how is it too late

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:26 AM

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this is t11

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literally every possible map

stray obsidian Dec 23, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Hey all, is it doable to remove influence from a region?

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:27 AM

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yea by killing the warlord

stray obsidian Dec 23, 2019, 12:27 AM

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lol

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:27 AM

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do they have blighted maps on here

stray obsidian Dec 23, 2019, 12:27 AM

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if I dont want to get the 3rd watchstone from that region yet I mean

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can I remove influence without doing the conquerer

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:28 AM

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dam it's only 1 week it feel like it's been longer than that

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but yea guess site wil work fine then

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id relaly only use for lower tier maps

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 12:28 AM

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which is most of what you need for influence

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:28 AM

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as u can see from my image t11 and above is a huge pain if u wanna trade for em

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and pretty sure no one trades those anyway

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:30 AM

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yeah i guess i need shit tier maps

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just feels bad going back down to white/yellow

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:30 AM

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yea so just either buy or trade for em

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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ye ill just have to buy em

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did they buff the elder guardians health

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or is it just my build lmao

wary smelt Dec 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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they buffed everything

crude solstice Dec 23, 2019, 12:34 AM

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ye i meant outside of it but i guess so ye

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burning arrow not that great ST sometimes

high pike Dec 23, 2019, 12:58 AM

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omg i got awakened gem from Veritania 3xG i thought those drop only from Sirus

spice cipher Dec 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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No all conquerors

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They just rare

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Woke coh so spicy

tulip epoch Dec 23, 2019, 2:08 AM

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hi is there a place here where i can get tips, on how to advance on the new atlas

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or am i at the wrong place

junior skiff Dec 23, 2019, 2:11 AM

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how do u gain access to the sirius fight?

gentle onyx Dec 23, 2019, 2:49 AM

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finish all 4 conqueror quests (5 kills each) and zana will open it

junior skiff Dec 23, 2019, 2:52 AM

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so essentially need gain 5 full sets of watchstones?

raven hawk Dec 23, 2019, 3:16 AM

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checked the wiki but didn't see - what is the vendor recipe for catalyst in the challenges?

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Three catalysts -> one random catalyst

raven hawk Dec 23, 2019, 3:16 AM

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ty

nimble lark Dec 23, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Does the awakener's orb reroll the mods on the item being slammed?

lament stratus Dec 23, 2019, 4:48 AM

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I failed the fight with the awakener. How do I respawn him?

eager terrace Dec 23, 2019, 5:07 AM

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kill another round of conquerors

hollow prism Dec 23, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Hey, anyone might know why my watchtowers aren't spawning? I'm missing two and I've only created one character.. :(
Can't advance

lofty lantern Dec 23, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Got a Port map without any unique organ 😦

covert maple Dec 23, 2019, 5:23 AM

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If i have all 4 stones from an area I shouldnt bother putting stones there until i have extras right?

abstract lava Dec 23, 2019, 5:27 AM

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yes

covert maple Dec 23, 2019, 5:27 AM

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hokay

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2 areas done i guess

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i still havent seen the siras guy

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19 stones

dusty field Dec 23, 2019, 6:59 AM

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Is there a guide for most efficient way to stone the atlas?

violet nymph Dec 23, 2019, 8:03 AM

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finally getting some eyes templarthumbsup

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livid hare Dec 23, 2019, 8:05 AM

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eyesofzeal

zealous thunder Dec 23, 2019, 9:32 AM

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they patched it?

wind harness Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Patch is out without a fix for freezing bosses right? =(

pearl iris Dec 23, 2019, 11:51 AM

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How am i supposed deal with the shitonados in the sirius fight? I have failed it twice so far simply because i don't understand the tornados. I am supposed to "kite" them away from him but then they end up coming back and fucking me over

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Do i somehow know when they stop moving or am i just supposed to wait like 2minutes in a corner to give me time to hammer him without a tornado coming back ontop of him?

languid river Dec 23, 2019, 12:26 PM

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I dont know what I am doing wrong.. I've done maybe 15 maps

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And none of those new conquerors have spawned

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There ARE stones that can be obtained in those regions..

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But the influence just doesn't appear.

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Just bad luck or..?

ruby light Dec 23, 2019, 12:27 PM

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have you socketed the required amount of watchstones in that region

languid river Dec 23, 2019, 12:38 PM

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Yes

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I am only doing the ones with 4 stones, and it says I need 4 to spawn

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Okay, took 19 t14-16 maps to spawn 1 conqueror influence, great

bronze ravine Dec 23, 2019, 12:59 PM

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not so long

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🤔

flat sparrow Dec 23, 2019, 1:32 PM

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true story - how is SSF supposed to maintain maps enough to push past the 16 orb mark? i hit a wall and am struggling to get anything in the range to spawn a conqueror in 4 orb land

round wolf Dec 23, 2019, 3:00 PM

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I don't understand why GGG is so adept at making interesting content like the conquerors but making it strangely difficult to actually access it.

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Like where is the fun in running 20 maps to unlock a single boss fight where you'll get 1-2 pieces of loot you're probably just going to vendor?

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And you're becoming so overpowered from running all those maps that the boss fight just gets shorter and shorter and now that isn't really fun any more either.

high pike Dec 23, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I am pretty sure they will change that at one point. Making it much easier to spawn conquerors

past badger Dec 23, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Its their first big atlas change in a while, so i guess it'll improve

tacit frigate Dec 23, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Guys I'm at 8 watchstones can I just run one region until I get it to spawn in that region or should I just run a couple of maps in each region?

surreal hamlet Dec 23, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Hey I only have 4 watchstones left to collect, but im not getting any luck trying to get that last specific color orb for that region, always end up getting a different conquerors influence, are there any ways to target specifically the orbs I need?

fallow raptor Dec 23, 2019, 4:05 PM

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i'm in the same boat glori, its annoying

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one way to help it is if you get an influence somewhere to leave it (assuming it's one you don't need in those other areas)

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it will increase the chance of getting the right one in the area you are needing it

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i basically stopped going for them yesterday and just spammed juicy t16 cuz i wanted a break from chasing the influence

surreal hamlet Dec 23, 2019, 4:07 PM

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So you can have more than 1 influence on the atlas? That’s helpful

fallow raptor Dec 23, 2019, 4:08 PM

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yeah

sly oriole Dec 23, 2019, 4:17 PM

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what are you suppose to do when sirus goes missing from inside the red circle during the fight?

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awesome

mortal gyro Dec 23, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Uh, this isn't normal is it?

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real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Good day all, does all things this league go here (new atlas as well) or just the metamorphs themselves ?

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Ok so I have every zone set to level 1 and have damn near full atlas bonuses for visible maps (4-5 short).
If I now pull the stones in from corners to make centre 4 zones all level 2, if I run a map in corner zones all maps drops will be as if they were still level 1 right ?
I.e. if I run a tier 8 courthouse in a zone that’s level 1, it still drops tier 8 +/- bonuses ?

unkempt bramble Dec 23, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Have they actually fixed the organ distribution from bosses? So far I've done 5-7 maps and only got hearts and brains just as usual. I don't feel like anything changed for the better

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Nope

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Be glad (assuming your not Xbox) you have auto collect and zone search in map tab 😉

coarse moon Dec 23, 2019, 6:02 PM

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they did fix it tho

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it was in the recent patch

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:03 PM

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It’s still awful eyes drop rates

unkempt bramble Dec 23, 2019, 6:04 PM

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They listed it in the patch. Doesn't really mean they fixed it for sure. And so far from what I experience, they didn't fix it at all. They actually made it worse for me. Cause I at least got a lung or a liver every 3-4 maps. Now? Only the 2 most common types

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:04 PM

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^

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Every pc player I know says the same

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Any of you know answer to my question ?

unkempt bramble Dec 23, 2019, 6:05 PM

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So another screw up on their side it seems

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I think map tiers that drop are restricted to the area level that you just opened. Atlas sockets only influence what can drop

coarse moon Dec 23, 2019, 6:07 PM

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the corner maps in that scenario drop as unleveled regions

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Ok so if I run a tier 12 in a level 0 zone the maps that drop would be tier 1-5 ?

coarse moon Dec 23, 2019, 6:07 PM

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no

unkempt bramble Dec 23, 2019, 6:07 PM

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No it should drop up to tier 14

coarse moon Dec 23, 2019, 6:07 PM

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the region level determines the tier of those maps only

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no matter what map you are actually running

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Ok so mob drops of maps are same as war for the atlas?

coarse moon Dec 23, 2019, 6:08 PM

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yes

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the system is functionally the same

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just a different way of manipulating map tiers

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Cool, thanks guys. I can go for my 9-12th elderslayers without fear then 🙂

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The new atlas mechanics are a little scary when you are not flush with maps lol

unkempt bramble Dec 23, 2019, 6:10 PM

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That seems odd to me... So what you're saying is that atlas sockets determine which tier is a particular map if that map is to drop?

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That should cause an unsocketed atlas to only drop tiers 1-5

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But that would be bad so it's not that for sure. What exactly do the orbs do then?

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:12 PM

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They level up the zone

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So first stone makes 1-5 say 6-10

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It’s not that but as an idea

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Take 2 stones to make a centre zone got 8-10 A’s it happens but you get the idea

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And also takes 2 stones to be able to spawn 9th-12th elderslayers

unkempt bramble Dec 23, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Okay but changing zone level doesn't seem to actually do anything if the map drops are still unaffected by it

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Except for spawning the conquerors

real crescent Dec 23, 2019, 6:15 PM

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If what was said above is right it only affects the atlas, it does affect drops from a map.

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So you can spread your bonuses and can run higher or lower versions of the maps and still get the map token native drops

unkempt bramble Dec 23, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Huh?

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From what I see, it changes map tiers that are able to drop for you. This should mean that if you run a tier 16 when you have no watchstones in your atlas, you should only be able to drop tiers 1-5

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Or basically the lowest possible range

cinder leaf Dec 23, 2019, 7:24 PM

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I don't see a scenario where I wouldn't have a region socketed then run red maps tho

ruby light Dec 23, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Can a map drop a higher tier map when that dropped map is not in the atlas?

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 8:13 PM

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By "not in the atlas", do you mean that it's not currently visible? If so, then I don't believe so

grand galleon Dec 23, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Any good Atlas written guides? Can’t watch videos at work.

leaden cypress Dec 23, 2019, 8:31 PM

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It definitely affects your map drops. If you want t6 maps to drop, you have to have an area that has t6. You can use it to kinda shape your atlas and target maps. Like if you put only a watchstone in top left and only have leyline open at t6, all your t6 drops will be leyline

ruby light Dec 23, 2019, 8:33 PM

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okay

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thanks

sly tusk Dec 23, 2019, 8:36 PM

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@grand galleon https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ec3ikb/guide_to_early_watchstones_to_progress_to_red_maps/ is ok, don't think there's anything more complete written up

Guide to Early Watchstones to Progress to Red Maps

Posted in r/pathofexile by u/daiceman4 • 228 points and 122 comments

vital trellis Dec 23, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Does having Sirius up prevent more conquerors from spawning?

fading cedar Dec 23, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Ugh, how many maps do I have to run before finding the missing brother?

olive kraken Dec 23, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Hey folks, i am at 17 watch stones, and I have 2 areas that are currently influenced, but I cannot get the "talk to Kirac" appear while running maps in these regions anymore. is it just chance based?

livid lake Dec 23, 2019, 9:40 PM

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make sure you're running different maps, not the same areas repeatedly

olive kraken Dec 23, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Like maps I dont have a completion bonus on?

livid lake Dec 23, 2019, 9:41 PM

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no just different maps

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like dont just run the layouts you like, any map in that area run it and it'll probably trigger

olive kraken Dec 23, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Is it still chance based doing that? I feel like I have done that

coarse moon Dec 23, 2019, 9:42 PM

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its incredibly random

olive kraken Dec 23, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Ah I see

coarse moon Dec 23, 2019, 9:42 PM

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you kinda just have to hope that the influence hits

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it took me 35 maps for my last conq to lemme go fight him

olive kraken Dec 23, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Good lord, I thought I had it bad with 10-15 maps lol. Thanks for confirming it is indeed random

woeful gyro Dec 23, 2019, 9:44 PM

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on the atlas, do connected hidden maps drop even if you don't have watchstones socketed revealing the hidden maps?

sly tusk Dec 23, 2019, 10:10 PM

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No

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If a map is not displayed on your atlas it cannot drop in normal circumstances

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@fading cedar if your at the start you gotta do the corner maps

round wolf Dec 23, 2019, 10:17 PM

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TIL scour wipes out catalyst quality

slender temple Dec 23, 2019, 10:25 PM

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That's bad

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It shouldn't imho

next epoch Dec 23, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Why not? Other crafting operations lose catalyst quality as well

midnight phoenix Dec 23, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Other crafting operations use catalyst quality to do stuff

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It doesnt just eat ur quality for no benefit

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Except scours apparently

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Maybe ur item is extra clean afterwards

round wolf Dec 23, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Scour doesn't normally touch quality/enchantments/etc, right?

midnight phoenix Dec 23, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Mind you, neither does the other stuff

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Alchs etc

round wolf Dec 23, 2019, 10:36 PM

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So for that reason I wouldn't expect quality from catalysts to be affected

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If fertile catalyst affects mana modifiers, and Impresence offers 100% reduced mana reservation for a curse, I can't help but wonder if I could fertile it to 120% reduced reservation and gain negative mana reservation ablobthinkzerogravity

midnight phoenix Dec 23, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Its the same as 0

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U can do this right now with impresence and any other source of reduced res

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Like say from the tree

round wolf Dec 23, 2019, 10:55 PM

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🙏

spark jolt Dec 23, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Awaken affect every single map on the atlas right?

valid compass Dec 23, 2019, 11:11 PM

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is there some spreadsheet with possible organ drops from each map?

royal gale Dec 23, 2019, 11:24 PM

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It’s all of them now

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@valid compass

languid river Dec 23, 2019, 11:34 PM

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I give up. Sirus is just bad design, and makes me want to vomit. I spawn him for the 2nd time, after doing like 60+ red maps. Then I get to last phase without any issues. And then there are storms everywhere and I cannot get to boss. So I die, and then there's a storm @ door when I zone in.. that's it. Waste 5 portals, dont kill him again.

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Seriously, am I just bad at this game or is the fight just an RNG clusterfuck?

vast gazelle Dec 23, 2019, 11:44 PM

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its all controllable afaik but its kind of a garbage fire to deal with storms

humble horizon Dec 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Is there a good succinct writeup somewhere on how the new atlas works and what to do in it? I'd prefer written bullet points over a youtube video

violet nymph Dec 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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complete maps

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fight conquerors and get watchstones from them

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upgrade maps so you can fight them again

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repeat until you have 16

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i don't know what happens once you get 16 watchstones cause i know there are 32 watchstones

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when you fight a conqueror, you won't be able to fight that same one again unless you've upgraded the area with a watchstone and are doing the higher tier maps in it

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as far as i'm aware

lusty surge Dec 24, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Is there a minimum level requirement to get the white meta mobs offering 6L things?

violet nymph Dec 24, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I've yet to see it so 🤷

leaden cypress Dec 24, 2019, 2:50 AM

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its like lvl 50 mobs to get a 6 socket drop, pretty sure thats the only requirement

wild arch Dec 24, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Any particular reason why badge of the brotherhood is so expensive this league?

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Apart from blight being rarer

heavy imp Dec 24, 2019, 10:46 AM

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what is supposed to happen when you fill up tane's boss bar in his boss room? i filled it but it was just a normal fight.

red wharf Dec 24, 2019, 11:09 AM

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looks like pob's fork doesn't support Thread of hope jewel, is there a way to pick up tree passives without linking? Other alternative would be putting passives on some item manually I suppose?

vapid agate Dec 24, 2019, 12:21 PM

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@heavy imp intended

twin holly Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 PM

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is it a waste to combine a say level 77 sample with a level 70 sample (do the drops scale to the lowest level like for example I would get level 70 maps even if the level 77 sample was the one that had the maps mod)?

torpid sonnet Dec 24, 2019, 1:15 PM

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I think all drops will be the level of the highest sample

ornate belfry Dec 24, 2019, 2:31 PM

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https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fragment_of_Knowledge

Path of Exile Wiki

Fragment of Knowledge

Fragment of KnowledgeItem Quantity: +10%10% increased Quantity of Items found in this AreaUnderstanding leads to mastery.Can be used in a personal Map Device.AcquisitionLevel: 80Sell Price1x Scroll FragmentMiscellaneousItem class: Map FragmentsMetadata ID: Metadata/Items/MapF...

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any1 know what combinign these makes?

royal gale Dec 24, 2019, 2:32 PM

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uber elder

eager forum Dec 24, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Has anyone else had meta's despawn in the laboratory 5 seconds after being summoned just lost out on a huge meta because of it

fallow raptor Dec 24, 2019, 3:04 PM

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how do you avoid the mega laser when awakener says die?

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that seems to stun me enough i cant flame dash away

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and one shot consistently

copper kernel Dec 24, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Running circles around the boss works

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But yeah if you get stunned youre probably fucked

fallow raptor Dec 24, 2019, 3:16 PM

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do you know if its chaos dmg?

copper kernel Dec 24, 2019, 3:17 PM

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No idea tbh

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Might have info at poedb

eager terrace Dec 24, 2019, 3:47 PM

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the multi beam cycles damage types

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as well as ailments

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for the most part your job in that fight is to stay almost on top of sirus

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when he does ring of clones you don't have that much time to identify which is his actual position

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just in general being closer to him is safer than being away from him

runic zephyr Dec 24, 2019, 5:24 PM

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arent all map bosses supposed to give a unique organ?

brave dune Dec 24, 2019, 5:24 PM

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only if the bar on the right is at 100%

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the bar when ur creating the monster

runic zephyr Dec 24, 2019, 5:25 PM

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im not talking about the drop organs

brave dune Dec 24, 2019, 5:25 PM

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o

stray obsidian Dec 24, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Hey everyone, do I understand this correctly? It says 3 watchstones required to spawn the conqueror on the Valdo's Rest region. I don't want to spawn the conqueror there so I leave only 2 socketed, as you can confirm with all maps being yellow. I run T11 maps in that region to try to drop T11s that are already completed in other regions. But the conqueror still came and so did the influence. Now I have influence on a region that requires me to run maps of 3 watchstones level but I have only 2 in there and the citadel is gone. I guess I can buy the maps but isn't this terrible UI - UX. It says point blank: NUMBER OF SOCKECTED WATCHSTONES: 3 REQUIRED TO SPAWN CONQUEROR, yet it is not respected and it still spawns. Thanks for any input, much appreciated!

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sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 7:15 PM

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has anyone else run into sirus not showing up for the final phase?

dusty umbra Dec 24, 2019, 7:30 PM

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@sly oriole what do u mean not showing up

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make sure to get literally below him every time]

sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 7:31 PM

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the projection of sirus is floating above and there is a red circle

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i have run around and dropped vortexes everywhere inside it

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i have stood right under him

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nothing happens except he keeps using the bombard deal that leaves degen on the ground

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it is incredibly frustrating, this is the 4th time this has happen

sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 7:56 PM

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where should i ask about this b/c i cant seem to find any info about it

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only a few posts of ppl that have had the same thing happen to them

wary smelt Dec 24, 2019, 8:04 PM

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man feels bad my AG died to metamorph in toxic sewers

sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 8:04 PM

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awesome, so now i just know not to ask here i guess

coarse moon Dec 24, 2019, 8:10 PM

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well its moreso that you got a bug

sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 8:10 PM

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i have to assume that i guess

coarse moon Dec 24, 2019, 8:10 PM

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ive had it happen once

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it sucks

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you just move on from it

sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 8:10 PM

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damn

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i was wanting to know if there is a way to get him to show up which i am guessing not?

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and yeah , if not then obviously i have to 'move on from it' but i also need to know if there is a way to avoid the bug happening

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like if something i am doing is making it more likely to happen

coarse moon Dec 24, 2019, 8:18 PM

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like, are you just getting the issue where even though the space beneath him is open, he refuses to come down?

sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 8:19 PM

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right, just has a floating projection above the red circle, using the skill that bombards the ground leaving the degen

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i can leave and come back into the circle, stand under him nothing changes

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i spent time moving various storms around in other areas of the arena and would go back to the circle and still nothing

coarse moon Dec 24, 2019, 8:21 PM

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ye thats just a bug

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i honestly dunno the fix to it

sly oriole Dec 24, 2019, 8:22 PM

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this time i did not log out at all during move storms phase but it still happen

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i guess i am just really unlucky

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this was the 4th or 5th time it has happen

cerulean halo Dec 24, 2019, 9:22 PM

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what am I doing wrong here

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I keep running maps in the top left corner but that person doesnt spawn

rigid star Dec 24, 2019, 9:23 PM

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I made a post on forum but i get no answer. Somebody can try to explain me the mechanics of new map system? All the zone can have 2 state: with citadel and with influence. From influence to citadel have to run 3 maps on that zone also the same maps over and over. But from citadel? I must run all maps? How many?

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@cerulean halo foe the first time you have to run 3 maps from that zone. Go on ur maps stash and write the name of the zone for highlights the map

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But i think after 16 whatchstone you need to run 10 times

cerulean halo Dec 24, 2019, 9:30 PM

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oh

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thats why

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I think I am after 16 watch stones

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But usually that person pops up during those 3 times and they didnt do that this time

rigid star Dec 24, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Because u have 16. But I'm not sure 100% about what i say. I just remember i read something like that

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I'm just tryng to understand how the mechanics work for make a zone with influence like u have in the corner

river rune Dec 24, 2019, 9:40 PM

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@cerulean halo I have the same issue. Have the zones with influence and got the dialogues to trigger after 2 maps but now ive run another 4 different maps from that region and nothing triggers the watcher...so annoying and have no idea what to do

rigid star Dec 24, 2019, 9:47 PM

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spark jolt Dec 24, 2019, 10:13 PM

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what's the strategy for Drox, The Warlord Boss, i just go around kill banners and then hit him? Is there a good way to kill him

sharp gulch Dec 24, 2019, 10:21 PM

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That's pretty much it. Hit him over and over, clear a banner if it's stopping your dps.

eternal spoke Dec 24, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Has anyone here killed uber hillock in act 1 after the act 6 bug fix?

hot gyro Dec 24, 2019, 10:25 PM

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is okay game

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violet nymph Dec 24, 2019, 10:26 PM

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whats the best way

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to raise the the metamorph bar in the lab

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is it based on the organ levels?

wary smelt Dec 24, 2019, 10:32 PM

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yea

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dont think maxing it out does anything though

atomic mural Dec 24, 2019, 11:32 PM

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@hot gyro do you even loot filter bro?

covert ibex Dec 24, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Maxing it guarantees a unique organ drop when you put one in (at least from my peanut memory)

wary smelt Dec 25, 2019, 1:03 AM

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we're talking about tane's lab not maps

steel gull Dec 25, 2019, 1:26 AM

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are the sample drops fully random now?

odd wasp Dec 25, 2019, 2:26 AM

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Any suggestions on how to spawn conqueror? I've done sooo many white maps and they are not spawning...

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dark condor Dec 25, 2019, 2:32 AM

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If you hover the regions on the left what level do you need to spawn them?

odd wasp Dec 25, 2019, 2:40 AM

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they all say 3 or 4 to spawn

dark condor Dec 25, 2019, 2:56 AM

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So you have to socket atleast 3 to upgrade the region to spawn them

odd wasp Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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@dark condor in that region? i have 14 total all socketed. 1 and 0 in the regions that are a problem. but all say 3-4 to spawn... so there is no way that will ever happen

dark condor Dec 25, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Socket the stones in the region where you want to spawn, maybe in another one or two regions for the mapdrops and then farm the socketed region

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The requirements increase with total number of watchstones but only count per region for spawning exiles

odd wasp Dec 25, 2019, 3:36 AM

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ok duh, i didnt try socketing the stones in other regions - thx i'm sure this'll work

worn canopy Dec 25, 2019, 8:54 AM

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I thought it shouldn't require you to swap other region watchstones to spawn conqueror

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But ill try that myself too

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Stuck at 15watchstones atm

void thicket Dec 25, 2019, 9:13 AM

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the icy conqueror

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i noticed her arena visibility shrinks as time goes on

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is it time or hp?

languid path Dec 25, 2019, 9:19 AM

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hp

brisk capeBOT Dec 25, 2019, 10:31 AM

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Don't ask to ask! Post your question here so that people actually know if they can help. It's also better to discuss your question publicly so more people can chime in or learn! That's why these channels are here!

harsh flower Dec 25, 2019, 10:40 AM

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I have same questions about more the 1 mod
If 1+1 I think it works. You will take 2 of them + random stats
But I'm interesting what will be if 2+1, 2+0, 2+2 = all mods? or just 1 random from item

ornate belfry Dec 25, 2019, 11:10 AM

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can some1 explain why i didnt receive a watchstone drop here pls?

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harsh flower Dec 25, 2019, 11:12 AM

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@ornate belfry because u need red location at this territory

ornate belfry Dec 25, 2019, 11:13 AM

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u mean the influence has to be red?

hollow wharf Dec 25, 2019, 11:13 AM

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you already own blue watchstone

harsh flower Dec 25, 2019, 11:13 AM

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yes

ornate belfry Dec 25, 2019, 11:13 AM

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but how do i force red influence? thought they are random

hollow wharf Dec 25, 2019, 11:13 AM

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yes, do more maps, it's random

ornate belfry Dec 25, 2019, 11:14 AM

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oh lmao

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rng to finish atlas thats sounds fair

frigid tinsel Dec 25, 2019, 11:15 AM

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The Question I am having is the following:

I have a crusaders influenced Chest that currently has the mod "Killed enemies explode,..." and I have a hunters chest with "additional curse"

now I want to use an awakeners orb to get both influences on the chest.
The Question im having is: will it take both mods onto one chest, since they are technically the influence mod or will it completely reroll my chest?

harsh flower Dec 25, 2019, 11:15 AM

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I think u need kill red green blue yellow and after will resp Sirus. So remember what color you already kill

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@frigid tinsel my friend craft quivers: additional arrow (shaper) + fire damage over time (hunter). he got 3 times both of them + random stats. So I think yes. You should get 2 of them

frigid tinsel Dec 25, 2019, 11:19 AM

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@harsh flower im aware i should be getting 2 of them, im just wondering if im guaranteed to have both on my "new" chest then

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or the infused one

harsh flower Dec 25, 2019, 11:20 AM

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He got 2 of them and rerolled another stats

frigid tinsel Dec 25, 2019, 11:20 AM

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alright

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thank you kind sir! :)

runic zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 11:45 AM

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is there a difference between these two organs when both are currency?

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void thicket Dec 25, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Unless they're different rarity or have different text (valuable currency instead of currency) I don't think so

patent spoke Dec 25, 2019, 1:28 PM

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how long before they fix sirius bossfight?

faint island Dec 25, 2019, 3:10 PM

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only few lvl 72 bosses, loving it

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