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primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Yeah its global increases

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:24 AM

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oof

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i didnt think it would count bc he isnt a map

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guess i was wrong af

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:24 AM

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technically its a map

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should be a map

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:24 AM

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yea but its zana's atlas kinda sorta

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just like how zana's maps dont interact with your influence or drop requirement logic sometimes

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makes sense either way tho

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:25 AM

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I mean 78m life or 70m life I'm dead either way

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:25 AM

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im really stuck on whether or not i wanna drop 2ex to buy a 6L vaal regalia

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or if i save like, 80c and buy occ vestments

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:26 AM

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I mean.. whats the top end difference on those bases?

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:26 AM

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about 50 base es

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Considering Conqueror &Metamorph damage I doubt 50 base ES would safe you

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:27 AM

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which comes out to probs about 130-180 more after mods

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and then something in the 400-500 range after tree

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Afterall Sirus slams you for 12.000 base phys

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:27 AM

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lol wat

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yea fuck that im not paying that much for it then

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my 7k ehp gets me through everything else

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and tbh, almost any rare chest will gie me more ehp than carcass

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sucks i hate to lose my massive aoe bonus for it tho

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:28 AM

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I'm at ~7.5k life rn with 90% phys reduction &molten shell aaand I can barely tank any of his phys slams

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:28 AM

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youve convinced me to save a lot of money lol

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:29 AM

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I'd honestly just wait until high end bases drop in price

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:29 AM

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that could be the move as well

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im not struggling anywhere else tbh

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Yeah everything up to t14 is fine

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t15 and up is hell

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:30 AM

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lemme try 15 and 16 rq

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havent actually done either of those yet

tiny coyote Dec 17, 2019, 2:35 AM

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Fuck man

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Just had like a ~30% wipe on the awakener

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 2:36 AM

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alright things in 15 and 16 are way tankier holy help

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:36 AM

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@tiny coyote 30% first phase or 30% second phase? xD

tiny coyote Dec 17, 2019, 2:37 AM

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2nd

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Oof.. yeah I feel ya. The fight really picks up then

tiny coyote Dec 17, 2019, 2:38 AM

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actually so hard without mirror/legacy gear

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:40 AM

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I mean 70kk life is 70kk life

tiny coyote Dec 17, 2019, 2:43 AM

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when the guy on SC

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has 30 million DPS

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its not really the same thing

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plus not taking into account the superior defenses

tired trench Dec 17, 2019, 2:53 AM

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okey i got the influence on the corner

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did 5 different maps there, no spawn

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 2:54 AM

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did you get a talk to kirac quest

tired trench Dec 17, 2019, 2:54 AM

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nope

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 2:54 AM

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Its more than 5

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You already spawned Sirus once so you no longer have guarenteed spawns

tired trench Dec 17, 2019, 2:55 AM

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didnt they fix it yesterday that it should be done if you do 3 different maps

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 2:57 AM

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for the first spawn for each conqueror

tired trench Dec 17, 2019, 2:57 AM

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okey

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well that explains it

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ill just continue mapping

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and if they spawn, they spawn :D

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thanks for the help, didnt know that it was only for first spawns

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 3:03 AM

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@primal whale god you werent kidding about t16 shit being rough

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Yeah its insane

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 3:11 AM

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t16 stuff makes me feel like synth bosses arent bullshit

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which is just wrong

midnight phoenix Dec 17, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Uncorrupted vaal temple eh

brittle egret Dec 17, 2019, 3:57 AM

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not sure how to get to maps from 2 socket regions, when connecting maps from 1 socket regions are too low to drop them and i dont have maps from said 2 socket region yet

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could someone elaborate on this and how its done correctly?

signal lake Dec 17, 2019, 3:58 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/qWjlDKI.gifv

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@brittle egret thats from just 1 watchstone

brittle egret Dec 17, 2019, 3:58 AM

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yea i know that

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but i have 8 watchstones and need to do 2 socket regions to get 9th right?

signal lake Dec 17, 2019, 3:59 AM

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ohh, that, sorry i missunderstood you

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im not at that point yet

brittle egret Dec 17, 2019, 3:59 AM

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yea and connecting regions are too low tier to get maps in the 2 socket region

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its breaking my brain lmao

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 4:05 AM

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god i fucking hate the hunter

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mostly just his snakes that spawn after things die

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 4:47 AM

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@coarse moon Ikr

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Feels like they convert 100% of their damage to Chaos just to oneshot me

gloomy ivy Dec 17, 2019, 5:05 AM

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am i missing something or can you not use sextants when a zone has influence on it?

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 5:11 AM

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I mean thats pretty obvious cause you cant click the watchstones

gloomy ivy Dec 17, 2019, 5:40 AM

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yeah it is obvious, but it seems kinda of dumb so i wanted to make sure there wasnt some aspect i was missing

primal whale Dec 17, 2019, 5:40 AM

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I mean why even bother grinding for watchstones

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 5:41 AM

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the chaos conversion on those guys is such bs

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they scare me more than he does

vernal lagoon Dec 17, 2019, 6:20 AM

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do samples ( eye/liver/heart etc) appear larger on filter ?

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or they didnt fix this yet

karmic palm Dec 17, 2019, 6:26 AM

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uhhh what have i done wrong? completed all maps already in Valdo's Rest (inner lower right) but citadel didnt appear

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grand pivot Dec 17, 2019, 6:26 AM

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anyone know why my conq encounter not proc ?
i have 4 full watchstone socketed
then i spawn 4 of them again
but the last one not proc anymore after i kill 3 of the conq

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i tried 4 5 maps but the dialog not popping

solar cradle Dec 17, 2019, 7:47 AM

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what happens if you die in Tane's Lab? Does the boss despawn?

high pike Dec 17, 2019, 7:54 AM

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yea

red agate Dec 17, 2019, 7:58 AM

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As far as I can tell the maps you run to spawn the conc have to be the tier of map you just upgraded too

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So if you have a tier 11s but your doing a 4 watchstone boss you have to do 16s

tired trench Dec 17, 2019, 8:35 AM

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How do i spawn sirus? i tried it once but failed and i want to try it again

cinder leaf Dec 17, 2019, 8:38 AM

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holy shit I got an eye, I'm gonna cry

violet nymph Dec 17, 2019, 9:06 AM

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vanity

ornate belfry Dec 17, 2019, 9:16 AM

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if a zone is highlighted on the atlas, does that mean its influenced? I got a red watch stone from it, what is best way to move forward now (simply camp that zone to get all stones/till influence goes away??

violet nymph Dec 17, 2019, 9:16 AM

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that means its influenced yes, the rest of your q depends

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if you are just getting your first watchstones you need to go to each corner section of the atlas for your first procs of each of the 4 influences

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run maps there til influence pops, run 3 maps, go get watchstone repeat

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after your first 4 watchstones the influence is random anywhere on the atlas but the map tier required to proc it gets higher

cinder leaf Dec 17, 2019, 9:37 AM

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and they say I'm heartless 😐

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ornate belfry Dec 17, 2019, 9:52 AM

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thanks @violet nymph

round grail Dec 17, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Guys, can't find any new kirac or colored areas https://gyazo.com/e4b3a24438ed1a2dcadd5dc4c50559ed theses are my quests : https://gyazo.com/b0e4e4f185dcdcac5956c7178b9fc81e

tired trench Dec 17, 2019, 11:03 AM

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How do i spawn sirus? i tried it once but failed and i want to try it again

patent canyon Dec 17, 2019, 11:20 AM

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some areas may only spawn exiles only when they meet region level req

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and your stones are all over the place without any focus, swap them around

round grail Dec 17, 2019, 11:21 AM

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I need to focus on an area ?

robust fjord Dec 17, 2019, 11:30 AM

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does anyone know how i can get my citadels?

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cus im missing 2 citadels and they just wont spawn

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whatever i do

timid geyser Dec 17, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Try to use the character you initial started the zana questline with if you aren't already. if you are on HC and ripped that character than you might need to wait til bugfix @robust fjord

robust fjord Dec 17, 2019, 12:30 PM

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alright, gonna try

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it worked, thank you so fuckin much

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Do i have to be in my initial character for bosses to spawn in this area or not?

timid geyser Dec 17, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Only for the citadels from my understanding

robust fjord Dec 17, 2019, 12:47 PM

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alright

opaque moth Dec 17, 2019, 12:53 PM

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he won't move, what do i do now? i can't open the door

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barren laurel Dec 17, 2019, 12:54 PM

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did u already try to use a movement skill?

opaque moth Dec 17, 2019, 12:57 PM

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yes and it's bug

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i have to reset zone

fickle granite Dec 17, 2019, 1:46 PM

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so guys, how to get eyes? any guides around?

hollow crag Dec 17, 2019, 1:48 PM

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http://puu.sh/EQppY/a4cc7b131f.jpg

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do not go and loot

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or this can happen

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i can't get out

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if you relog, you lose loot

frozen cedar Dec 17, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Hello guys i'm new to the game and idk how to save organs in the stash...i mean...maybe i didnt reach the requirements...i'm at lvl 30... Or do they rarely drop from the metamorph i kill on the regular map? Maybe i'm missing a mechanic or something...thanks!!!

royal gale Dec 17, 2019, 1:53 PM

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You need to fill that bar on the right when you are constructing the metamorph

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doesn't happen often in the story

frozen cedar Dec 17, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Ohhhhh i see

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Thanks 😂

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I was missing that then...and sorry about my English... i can't find a spanish chat 🤔

magic stirrup Dec 17, 2019, 2:00 PM

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guys wth

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i dont get how to summon elderslayers at level 4

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like ive done several maps in the sector

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but im just not getting the dialogue for the elderslayer

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so i cant fight the elderlsayers

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and before you ask, yes the sector is fully slotted to level 4

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and has influence, but doing maps doesnt make them appear anymore

eager terrace Dec 17, 2019, 2:10 PM

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you only have a 33% chance to find an elderslayer at region 4 from what I understand

frigid holly Dec 17, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Sorry to ask a really dumb question, but...
...what does one do after getting access to a citadel in the atlas? It seems to be a mico-zone in which Zana is present as well as an altar, but I can't seem to find a way to interact with it at all. Isn't there supposed to be a boss fight with each one?

eager terrace Dec 17, 2019, 2:23 PM

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no, what you've found is just an altar that they were building to mess with the atlas

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its where you'll socket watchstones for that region

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you'll first encounter the elderslayers in the corner regions of the atlas

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for now keep running maps until you can get to the corner regions, and in the other regions check after the map boss to see if you've found the altar for that region

frigid holly Dec 17, 2019, 2:25 PM

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ah ok, thanks, that makes sense. So there's no reason at actually treturn to the micro-zone itself now that it's present as a socket on my Atlas right?

eager terrace Dec 17, 2019, 2:25 PM

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right

frigid holly Dec 17, 2019, 2:25 PM

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thanks

eager terrace Dec 17, 2019, 2:25 PM

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you'll even get a portal to that altar zone after each boss too

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or rather the altar will come to you

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but you can socket the watchstone from wherever

magic stirrup Dec 17, 2019, 2:26 PM

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feels bad man

frigid holly Dec 17, 2019, 2:26 PM

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that clarifies things 🙂

magic stirrup Dec 17, 2019, 2:26 PM

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failed the first awakener kill and now its so expesnive

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to get lvl 4 bosses to spawn

frank hound Dec 17, 2019, 2:40 PM

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is it? don't you just run maps basically?

red stone Dec 17, 2019, 2:53 PM

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guys, whats the better way to progress atlas rn, gather all the 4 watchstones for each zone so high tier maps dont spread and then repeat for each?

floral parrot Dec 17, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Haven't been paying close attention here, so maybe this has already been discussed, but is it possible to fill the metamorph meter in Tane's lab?

frank hound Dec 17, 2019, 2:59 PM

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it probably is, I managed to get to all but 1 bar filled without being in red maps yet so I'd imagine using very high ilvl parts will achieve that

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as for what it gives when it's filled if anything special, don't know

eager charm Dec 17, 2019, 3:00 PM

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It doesn’t give anything special

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Just makes a more dangerous metamorph who can drop better items

floral parrot Dec 17, 2019, 3:00 PM

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i see

raven hawk Dec 17, 2019, 3:09 PM

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is the body part reward from juiced up metamorphs random or can be controlled? Got 7 lungs so far and no livers

red stone Dec 17, 2019, 3:10 PM

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body part reward is based on the unique part used

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if multiple, random between those

raven hawk Dec 17, 2019, 3:11 PM

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ahh ok - awesome, ty!

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another question - just finished the Al-Hezmin fight but the snakes won't despawn and no watchstone dropped. Bugged out or am I missing something?

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looks like it looted to my inventory or when I selected "Take Watchstone" from Zana it gave it to me

robust fjord Dec 17, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Guys, is every wathstone specific for a zone, or i can put them in whatever zones i want?

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 3:40 PM

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can place whereever

torn flicker Dec 17, 2019, 3:53 PM

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quick question regarding atlas progression: do i get more than 1% completion when i do for example a t4 map and then upgrade the region and clear it again on t7?

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or in other words, should i complete all maps in a region before upgrading it to t1 and so on? or can i just upgrade once i get the watchstone?

pulsar bobcat Dec 17, 2019, 3:55 PM

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You get 1% per map clear regardless of tier. If you complere it on white and upgrade it all the way to red, it's still counted as completed and won't give any additional percent.

torn flicker Dec 17, 2019, 3:55 PM

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very good to know thanks! so i will stop clearing everything on t0 now and use my watchstones 😄

past tide Dec 17, 2019, 4:07 PM

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is there a spreadsheet or website with the maps listed for areas?

potent jay Dec 17, 2019, 4:07 PM

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So what I've noticed is that I get the same organ as a drop which I've put in to the morph machine. Is there a way to force specific organs? I am starved on livers and I barely find any unique livers in my maps.

sly cipher Dec 17, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Atol map metamorph use = disconnect

potent jay Dec 17, 2019, 4:37 PM

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not for me 🤷‍♀️

royal gale Dec 17, 2019, 4:40 PM

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run maps where that organ drops, but otherwise no

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if the boss drops multiple types i'm sure its weighted

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hence why so many people are having eye/liver problems

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run these two maps

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karmic rapids Dec 17, 2019, 4:46 PM

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hey is that spreadsheet posted somewhere?

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@royal gale

royal gale Dec 17, 2019, 4:46 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xThZALWG2AgldSDhrcafzOtou4Vgrf-KXBlYwAD30I8/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

TURI POE 3.9 Atlas

Sheet1

Map Name,Base Tier,Region,# Bosses,Boss Name,Done?,Eye,Liver,Lung,Heart,Brain
Beach Map,1,4,8,10,14,Glennach Cairns,Glace,1,1,1,0,0
Jungle Valley Map,1,4,8,10,14,Lex Proxima,Queen of the Great Tangle,1,0,1,0,0
Pier Map,1,4,8,10,14,Valdo's Rest,Ancient Architect,1,1,0,...

karmic rapids Dec 17, 2019, 4:47 PM

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oooo thank you thank you

grand belfry Dec 17, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I'm just 11 levels ahead of the zone I'm in but the league mechanic is not spawning what gives

royal gale Dec 17, 2019, 4:49 PM

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is it a story zone

grand belfry Dec 17, 2019, 4:49 PM

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yes

royal gale Dec 17, 2019, 4:49 PM

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that would be why

grand belfry Dec 17, 2019, 4:49 PM

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I had been farming it for a while though

royal gale Dec 17, 2019, 4:50 PM

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league mechanics usually disappear from story zones as soon as you reach a certain point

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to prevent people from doing what you're doing

grand belfry Dec 17, 2019, 4:50 PM

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11 levels difference is a weird metric to go by

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" to prevent people doing what you're doing " is it a sin to farm now

royal gale Dec 17, 2019, 4:51 PM

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ye to prevent you from exploiting low level zones

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and force you to actually farm more difficult content

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doesn't really matter cause if you wanted to you could always farm the act 9/10 zones since you never outlevel those

dusky kernel Dec 17, 2019, 5:01 PM

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https://poeromp.github.io/organ_finder/

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sly tusk Dec 17, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Anyone killed shaper to know if he drops a part?

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Hydra did when I killed her

robust fjord Dec 17, 2019, 5:08 PM

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guys

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when the boss spawns on my atlas, do i have to do different maps for him to come?

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or i can do the same map over and over until he spawns

sly tusk Dec 17, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Different ones, once he spawns in a map, he can't spawn in that map again, you need 3 appearances to spawn him too

midnight magnet Dec 17, 2019, 5:24 PM

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how do you go about the atlas at the beginning, should I do all low tier maps first for the bonus and then gain influence and do the guardians or just straight to it?

patent canyon Dec 17, 2019, 6:39 PM

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try to get as many maps done as you can

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then when you have access to all 4 regions start doing exiles and up atlas tiers, focus stones on single region

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Hey, are the appearances of the conqueres going way down after awakening the atlas? Or am I just having bad luck?

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So far I've only seen 2 in 8 hours of play time and one didnt even drop a watchstone after killing (zana doesn't have it either)

lean dagger Dec 17, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Is there anything to do with extra endgame organs? I have like 20 lungs and only 2-3 of everything else.

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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@fallow laurel after unlocking sirus the rate stops being guaranteed

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its something like a 30% chance per map after that point, in an eligible region, to find a conq

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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hmm okay, i am pretty unlucky then, because i ran atleast 30 maps

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and different ones ofc

novel flint Dec 17, 2019, 7:01 PM

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is it possible to get itemised organs during campaign?

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or is it onl;y possible in maps?

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 7:06 PM

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ngl, never tried in acts

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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me neither, but if you manage to fully charge the "juice" bar you should get an organ

novel flint Dec 17, 2019, 7:07 PM

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am trying to farm imperial legacy in act9

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cause my build sucks so much i can;t do maps yet

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and was wondering if i should try to get it or just do a quick morph to get some extra items\

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 7:09 PM

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if you can farm it well and are able to use the bow a long time then why not farm the card

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the card is relatively common as well

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just make sure you arent too overleveled, the drop rate goes down if you are too high

novel flint Dec 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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yeah, that is becoming a problem i thimnk

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im like 10 lvls above area lvl now

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 7:11 PM

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id try to farm desert maps then tbh

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or you could farm tabula cards and use/sell the tabula

novel flint Dec 17, 2019, 7:12 PM

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that has even higher lvl difference

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 7:12 PM

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oh right, thats a9 too whoops

novel flint Dec 17, 2019, 7:13 PM

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but tbh, BA are easier to farm than Vashitri desert/foothills/oasis

coarse moon Dec 17, 2019, 7:21 PM

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channel/waterways

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those also have great humility drop rates

sly tusk Dec 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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My personal opinion is to get a solid base of T1-3 maps in the center, then push out to the 4 corners and kill each one of them in a corner

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As you kill the first four, socket them in the central regions only

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From there run T5s in the corners to get T6s in the middle, after that you can branch out how you want

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Big thing to remember is that the corner regions have essentially +1 watchstones at the start in terms of levels

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So make sure that you're laddering your regions up

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Do I have to run awakener when he spawns or do I risk losing him by running maps?

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Not sure, I ran mine immediatly, failed horribly but still got the awakened atlas :p

violet nymph Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Boring and small

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 8:25 PM

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I failed mine the first time but really want to kill him this time around because he takes SO long to spawn

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took me roughly 50 maps

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However, I think I can buy some skele gems and try that because I hear these spectres die instantly

fallow laurel Dec 17, 2019, 8:39 PM

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i just tried sirus again and got him down to 50% without dying

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but then i got rekt by the moving ball phase and literally couldnt damage him further

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next time ill get him, he isnt that intimidating anymore

vital shadow Dec 17, 2019, 9:00 PM

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any tips for out manuevering his dot fields and finding him? espeically for minion build i had a difficult time in getting past his 2nd phase and keeping minion alive to do dmg after that

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:04 PM

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update: wiped to sirus again, got him to 75%, died, then he went to the far back of oriath and became untargetable and murdered me 5 times :)\

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really not a fan of this fight to be honest, the fact that the dot fields damage you when you're close but not inside of them is SO tilting

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and the ground degen thats almost the exact same color as the regular ground

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and has the same texture as non-degen moves he does

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real intuitive and fun.

vital shadow Dec 17, 2019, 9:05 PM

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that sounds like what i experienced 😐

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i think everything but the dot fields are kinda fine and maybe fun

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but the fact that u have to paly hide and seek really sucks

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:07 PM

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It seems like he has so many phases too

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:07 PM

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oh nice

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theyre changing the fight apparently

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:07 PM

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ohh??

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source?

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:08 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ebv7si/-/fb8lf7s/?context=3

GGG wtf is this sirius fight...

Posted in r/pathofexile by u/thevenenifer • 266 points and 138 comments

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:10 PM

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wonderful

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Honestly, the rest of the league has been super pog

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:11 PM

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yeah im a bit dreading fighting him

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because of how hard everyone says he is

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i might wait till the fixes to do him

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:11 PM

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I would honestly wait yea

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:11 PM

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most of the fights look cool and i dont mind hard, i just mind bullshit degen clusterfucks 😛

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:11 PM

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DPS didn't seem to be a problem at lvl 5 awaken either

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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i killed 2 of the conquerors deathless, the others had some questionable mechanics (mostly died to the hunter too fast to figure out his mechanics)

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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is hunter the poison one?

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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yeah

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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yep thats the one I had trouble with

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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got him to like 20% then ripped 3 times in a row

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because i couldnt finish

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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It seems you just don't want to follow him and go the opposite way of the triangle

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that seemed to work for me at least

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:13 PM

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yeah its a lot less visible than the others for sure

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and drox adds are just bullshit lol

still merlin Dec 17, 2019, 9:13 PM

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yea a lil bit lmao

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:14 PM

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like if they make hunter arena brighter, fix up awakener, and tone down drox adds slightly this will be an 11/10 league

vital shadow Dec 17, 2019, 9:16 PM

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its just kinda hard to see the ground degens

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it is a similar issue in the Catarina fight in betrayal

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i just cant see where i need to step to not that dmg cause the whole map is so dim

vast gazelle Dec 17, 2019, 9:18 PM

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yeah mostly that

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and his attacks are a bit hard to see

vernal lagoon Dec 17, 2019, 9:22 PM

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i cant spawn blue watchstone is this a known bug ?

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i have the other 12 watchstones (yellowx4,redx4,greenx4)

violet nymph Dec 17, 2019, 9:59 PM

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can anyone give me a hand with influence nonsense

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i have 17 watchstones atm, i failed sirus once, i cleared influence from 2 sections of my atlas afterwards already but i've ran t14~t16s in the red/blue regions and haven't been able to run into map influnece again what am i doing wrong

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is encountering them after proccing their influence just random now or something

surreal helm Dec 17, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Anyone figured out the catalyst vendor recipe as stated in the challenges?

sly tusk Dec 17, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Put up a guide for the early watch stones (prior to awakening), if you got friends who still don't get it:

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ec3ikb/guide_to_early_watchstones_to_progress_to_red_maps/

Guide to Early Watchstones to Progress to Red Maps

Posted in r/pathofexile by u/daiceman4 • 2 points and 2 comments

red stone Dec 17, 2019, 11:13 PM

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does any catalyst work with primordial chain +golem amount? or only the less dmg/life mods

mellow zenith Dec 17, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Is the question if there's a catalyst that would increase the number of golems you get from PC?

red wharf Dec 17, 2019, 11:57 PM

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okay, i think im kinda stuck on atlas, got 13 watchstones total, to spawn next conqueror events, i need to socket 3 stones and use maps with appropriate tiers, but all highest maps i have, are from regions that had 2 stones socketed. Is playing random lower tier maps and praying for +1/+2 tier map drops the only way?

vital shadow Dec 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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just make sure one region is red.... and di t10 yellow maps

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ull get red maps pretty easily

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red map drop rates are honestly higher than i cn use them up to like t13-14

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:00 AM

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what, you get t13-t14 maps on t10 maps?

vital shadow Dec 18, 2019, 12:00 AM

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not from t10, just in general not too hard to maintain connstant rate of t11-t14 maps

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:00 AM

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You can only drop maps that are 2 tiers higher

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:00 AM

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yeah, that doesnt exactly answer my question

vital shadow Dec 18, 2019, 12:01 AM

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t10 will pretty easily get u t11 though

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chances of getting t11 isnt bad

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make sure to alch the maps

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:01 AM

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like, if i need t12-t14 maps in region X, but i have t10-t12 maps from other regions, i should just play those other regions and pray for +1/+2 map drops?

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:02 AM

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What you should do it set your regions up in a way that only those regions you need maps from are t12

vital shadow Dec 18, 2019, 12:02 AM

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first region X needs to be watchstoned toget 12-14

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:02 AM

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seems pretty difficult considering large atlas pool, is it possible to narrow down map drop pool?

vital shadow Dec 18, 2019, 12:02 AM

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and then just do maps from t10-12 elsewhere

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:02 AM

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This is how it works

vital shadow Dec 18, 2019, 12:02 AM

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if only 1 region has red maps from watchstones u won't get othe red maps from drops

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:03 AM

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so to summarize, i need to make sure only 2 regions are highest tiers, one is target i dont have maps for yet, other is where i farm maps (the one where i have most of highest maps)?

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Region A is t10-t12 and you got a bunch of maps from that region. but now you need t12 maps from Region B. So you take all Watchstones from Region A to decrease the map tier to t1-t5 so only maps from Region B can drop

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:03 AM

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and make sure other regions are low tier, so maps wont drop for them

sharp estuary Dec 18, 2019, 12:03 AM

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what do i do if my watchstone gets stuck in the altar

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:04 AM

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@sharp estuary Go to Zana "Take Watchstone"

sharp estuary Dec 18, 2019, 12:04 AM

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thanks!

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:05 AM

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lumina, so youre saying that t1-t5 maps from A can drop t12 maps for B? o_O

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Jeez

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:05 AM

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unless you mean farming is done in B

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just to clarify, i dont have maps for B

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Region A has 3 Watchstones and is therefor t10-t13 (or whatever tier they are). You have a bunch of those maps but now you need Maps from Region B. So you take all Watchstones from Region A and put them into Region B and then you run your t10-t13 maps that you got from Region A. Now that Region A is no longer t10-t13 you can no longer drop those maps and all maps will drop from Region B

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:07 AM

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gotcha, thanks

primal whale Dec 18, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Make sure you have no other Regions close to the level of the Region you need maps from and then run any map of the same tier that you need and you'll automatically get the maps you need

red wharf Dec 18, 2019, 12:08 AM

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just realized i can ctrl+click on stones from unwanted regions and they go automatically to shelf on atlas left

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alright, will do, downgraded all other regions

errant tinsel Dec 18, 2019, 12:42 AM

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what map tier do i need to trigger region level 2? i know you need at least tier 4 for region level 1 i think?

digital viper Dec 18, 2019, 12:52 AM

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is it not possible to sextant a sector if theres infuence there?

eager terrace Dec 18, 2019, 12:54 AM

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no, the watchstone altar is under control of the elderslayer

lyric shuttle Dec 18, 2019, 1:01 AM

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so watchstones go away after certain time/# of maps run

maiden junco Dec 18, 2019, 1:04 AM

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wait so nothing happens if you fill up the meter in the lab?

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i expected idk something

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is there not anything else to the metamorph mechanic??

lyric shuttle Dec 18, 2019, 1:06 AM

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trouble is I can't understand how you can keep going without a lot of map trading, this is way over complicated

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I mean, I get influence, but if I don't HAVE those maps you can't do anything outside of trading, frankly I think YOLO run WTF you have is better

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anybody do a powerpoint presentation on how the fuck this shit works?

violet nymph Dec 18, 2019, 1:22 AM

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I agree that trading can get very tedious especially if it's just trading equal value items like maps. But it's either that or grinding to get the maps... not sure what's worse

digital viper Dec 18, 2019, 1:28 AM

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@maiden junco yea, i just did it, nothing happens, pretty disappointing

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 1:46 AM

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sorry if dumb question but do Watchstones get consumed?

leaden cypress Dec 18, 2019, 1:54 AM

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no, you can move them as you want, but they do get locked in when an area has influence

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once you clear the influence you can move them again

jaunty wadi Dec 18, 2019, 2:02 AM

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anyone wanna carry an awakener for me?:)

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 2:08 AM

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@leaden cypress so when you clear the influence you get the watchstone back plus another one right?

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and just repeat till you have all citadels with full watchstones?

leaden cypress Dec 18, 2019, 2:09 AM

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yup

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 2:13 AM

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really like it

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and im guessing bosses get harder, because otherwise it would be a joke

midnight phoenix Dec 18, 2019, 2:25 AM

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They do

halcyon veldt Dec 18, 2019, 2:28 AM

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so how does the new atlas work? how come i have completed maps that aren't on my atlas?

midnight phoenix Dec 18, 2019, 2:34 AM

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They are hidden

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Once u start putting watchstones on ur atlas they become visible

hexed heron Dec 18, 2019, 2:56 AM

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So once I have the 5 organs do I just put them in the tower in tanes lab?

halcyon veldt Dec 18, 2019, 2:57 AM

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i see

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ty

coarse moon Dec 18, 2019, 3:20 AM

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screech

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why do i have influence but no progress on this guy its been up for so long

weak solstice Dec 18, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Anyone got an overview for Catalysts? Which mods they actually affect, like "caster mods" etc.

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Cant even see it on poedb

hollow wharf Dec 18, 2019, 4:23 AM

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you can find it in separate item class page, ex: https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Claw jewellery_attribute

weak solstice Dec 18, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Damn, there is no aura catalyst, right?

hollow wharf Dec 18, 2019, 4:34 AM

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nope

hollow wharf Dec 18, 2019, 8:39 AM

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also added under all catalysts https://poedb.tw/us/item.php?n=Turbulent+Catalyst

chilly hare Dec 18, 2019, 11:55 AM

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How exactly does the Watchtower mechanic work? Got a 5 towers and 3 balls, don't know how my mapping is being affected.

patent canyon Dec 18, 2019, 12:01 PM

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socketing them in tower raises that region map tiers

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basically shaping on steroids

chilly hare Dec 18, 2019, 12:04 PM

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ah, got you

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but there's no real target farmign right? doing maps in a certain region doesnt seem to be dropping more maps in that region for me

copper kernel Dec 18, 2019, 12:09 PM

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well if you have only that region at high tier

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it will drop maps only from that tier

chilly hare Dec 18, 2019, 12:10 PM

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got you, ty

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 12:44 PM

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There is technically target farming but it is pretty complicated and odds are you already scuffed your atlas for it.

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Depending on the map you need to never complete some adjacent/in region maps in order to target farm. And currently there is no way to undo completion on maps.

novel flint Dec 18, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Iirc, big reason for the atlas change was to make map farming harder

tiny flint Dec 18, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Does dark pack + spell cascade + astral projector work?

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If so spell cascade dark pact poets pen with a summon skeles poets pen

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Set up will result in 9 dark pacts that overlap

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rage rage

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May have just broken astral projector

lyric pine Dec 18, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I mean it is a nova, but does spell cascade work with dark pact?

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If it doesn't, the ring won't enable it to.

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Also, spells cast with spell cascade don't deal individual damage for every spell in the cascade, it's all treated as one large spell afaik.

clever lark Dec 18, 2019, 3:16 PM

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If your struggling with getting specific organs , run 3 boss maps - https://youtu.be/NA2YGC-caNA

YouTube

Carc80

How to get the Metamorph Organs you need

Lots of people are getting stuck with out boss organs of the types they need in the new Path of exile league, this little tip might help

▶ Play video

ornate eagle Dec 18, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Sorry don’t know if the question goes here since there is no « conqueror of Atlas section » but is the conqueror spawn randomn after 16 watchstones. I’m running correct map in 4 stoned regions and I haven’t procced once since 20 maps already.

lyric pine Dec 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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it's random like it used to be

lone star Dec 18, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I literally can't wait for the auto-pickup stuff

coarse moon Dec 18, 2019, 4:10 PM

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that’s gonna be real nice

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I would like a change that makes it not random if you are already have your conqueror spawned

ornate eagle Dec 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Ok thanks that’s just frustrating 🙂

gloomy ivy Dec 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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i have awakener 5 and 25% increased chance to drop an influenced item in an infleunced area. Ive spammed dozens of maps in influence and ive never seen 1 drop. anyone experiencing this?

runic zephyr Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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jesus the drops are RNG-y, my best brains/lungs/heart/liver part are all blue/white, and at the same time i have 5/6 unique organs for eyes xD

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 5:44 PM

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6 tries into awakener and i'm really burning out

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i want to kill him, but it takes like 3 hours on average to spawn him

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Elder was similar time invstment to spawn but didnt disappear when failed

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shaper is like run 4 maps or buy the fragments

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While Awakener is just "do these maps for 3 hours, no shortcuts"

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 5:52 PM

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hey guys, did first 4 watchstones and have a doubt about influence

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i got yellow influence on the center of the map and im wondering if I can complete the maps with the same names but different tier

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for example i have an atoll tier 2 but given the map influence, its 5

potent jay Dec 18, 2019, 5:54 PM

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no, you are doing the map on the tier you are opening them in, they wont count.

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 5:54 PM

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I see

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and can i buy an atoll lvl 6?

potent jay Dec 18, 2019, 5:54 PM

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yes you can

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Hmm i see, i could also do a tier 2 from that influenced area and the adjacent maps would drop with the modified higher tier right?

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 5:56 PM

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no

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a tier 2 map can only drop tier 1-4 maps and never higher

copper kernel Dec 18, 2019, 5:58 PM

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a tier 2 map can drop from a t16 map

leaden cypress Dec 18, 2019, 5:59 PM

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lower can always drop, but not higher than +2

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:02 PM

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so how would I go about getting this influenced maps?

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or just buy a couple

leaden cypress Dec 18, 2019, 6:09 PM

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buy them, or make it so they are the only ones you have upgraded, that way if you get a t6 drop those are the ones that will drop

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if you pull out all your other watch stones and run t5, then atoll etc should be the t6's that dropp

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:10 PM

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and it can be any t5 right?

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because i have completed atoll

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:11 PM

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@copper kernel I was talking about what can drop IN a tier 2, not where a tier 2 map can drop

leaden cypress Dec 18, 2019, 6:11 PM

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if you run any t5, then any completed t6s you have will drop. If you want ones you havent run to drop then they need to be either adjacent or in the same region i think

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I mean, i never ran t6 atoll but i did the tier 2 and when it upgraded to t6 it says T6 atoll completed, so im guessing it counts?

leaden cypress Dec 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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yeah that counts as completed

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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nice

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thank you very much for clearing it up

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very helpful!

leaden cypress Dec 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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yeah np

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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basically upgrade one region to yellow. Run all the t5 you have, and any t6 that will drop is in that yellow regino

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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T6 atol can drop from any T4 rare or T5 blue if it's already revealed

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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👌 👌 👌

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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It's funny how map sustain will never matter again

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as long as this system is in place

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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map sustain made me quit the game when i played betrayal league

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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It does get worse when you hit T14-16

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I have all 32 watchstones, only running t14-t16

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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At the start its very plentiful though

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:14 PM

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and i have like 100 t14+ maps in store already

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with just chisel and alch

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Oh, wow, nice

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:14 PM

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fucking nice

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when did u start to alch?

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and chisel?

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:14 PM

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t6

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chisel red maps

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 6:14 PM

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nice nice

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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But i have no will to run maps anymore even, all i want is to fight the awakener, but spawning him once takes 3 hours

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And thats honestly too much time if you dont even need maps or currency anymore

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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The biggest hump I think is getting to 16 stones, at that point you only need to buy level 4 maps, not weird 1-3 maps

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Its not hard to get to 16 stones if you use the watchstones correctly

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basically you have the option between "high map drops" and "focused map drops" mode

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depending on how many citadels you socket fully

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Sure, but there's too many ways to socket "incorrectly" and make it way harder on yourself

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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yeah its not very intuitive

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I made a guide on how to do focused, and even then, there's still tons of questions on how to do it

potent jay Dec 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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like I did... xD I locked new vastiri with 3 watchstones on the warlord while not having the map pool to do it, and low damage so I struggle against the warlord notLikeThis

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I think the system is fine more or less, its just awakener spawning that's terribly designed in my opinion

potent jay Dec 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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not being able to progress the mapping till I kill him

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Biggest mistake I see is people putting in 1st two watch stones right away, getting T6 maps from two zones, putting a 3rd & 4th in the same area then running a T6 map and locking up 4 watchstones

potent jay Dec 18, 2019, 6:20 PM

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jup thats me xD

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:20 PM

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They should prevent influence from spawning from maps that don't match your atlas

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:21 PM

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I also find it very weird how sextants work now

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Would fix a ton of issues

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Oh?

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Basically you get influence over an area, so now you want to run maps of that area, perfect time for a sextant

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but you cant put one

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because your watchstones were "stolen"

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Ah, yeah maybe once you hit 32 stop citadel from being stolen?

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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nope

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im at 32 its still the same

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Give an incentive I mean

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I mean, they should change it so it's like that

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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yeah

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honestly all i want is a way to get to the awakener fight faster

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shaper you could just buy fragments or run 4 maps, elder didnt despawn if you didnt kill him

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Awakener its 3 hours+ per try

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Yeah, Uber elder you could spawn in like 15 maps at most, 8 of which were the guardians

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Red elder took forever to spawn through

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:24 PM

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yeah and thats fine

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but if you died he stayed there

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and you could practice forever for the cost of 1 map

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Awakener takes forever to set up and if you die you start all over

covert ibex Dec 18, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I have literally no idea how the atlas works now, I put my stones in and my citadel disappears LUL

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:25 PM

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run more maps in that area now

covert ibex Dec 18, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Are the colored areas where theres an active conqueror?

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Ye

covert ibex Dec 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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So if I only want say t6 drops from tirns end then I should either have the other areas white or red?

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And just slap 1 or 2 in tirns

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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yeah

steel gull Dec 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Is there a compiled list of what organs each map drops?

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https://github.com/poeromp/poeromp.github.io/blob/master/organ_finder/assets/dist/map_data.json

GitHub

poeromp/poeromp.github.io

Romp's PoE Tool collection. Contribute to poeromp/poeromp.github.io development by creating an account on GitHub.

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like this but human readable

shrewd gulch Dec 18, 2019, 6:55 PM

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if i have 16 watchstones do i need to kill Sirus before i can gather anymore? or is finding the exiles just rng from now on until i kill him

coarse moon Dec 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

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its rng from now on, period

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sadly

lyric pine Dec 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

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bad rng again

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

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i feel like the master missions should be on the map device instead of having to talk to the master itself, no?

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i constantly forget to talk to zana

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

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It just a matter of practice and getting used to talking to the masters, but yeah would be nice if it was on the map device.

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

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i just do zanas missions though, i dont really understand the other league mechanics and too lazy to read on them

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:06 PM

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@shrewd gulch You need to do the Sirus fight you get after getting the 16th watchstones

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you dont need to win though

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

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You are missing out on a lot of map sustain/currency/rewards/ect. by skipping those, but if that's how you enjoy playing the game nothing wrong with that. 🙂

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I'm so glad you dont need any master stuff for map sustain anymore

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I just use zana and nothing else

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:08 PM

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which master stuff did you need before?

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:09 PM

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i used to do temple and delve

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:09 PM

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but how did it contribute to map sustain

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:09 PM

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you got maps from there

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:09 PM

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ah i see

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Temple is essentially one super big map with different reward rooms (including a map reward room), Delve cities can also drop a lot of maps.

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:10 PM

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I'm already rolling in maps now with just the atlas

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:10 PM

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well i liked delve

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:10 PM

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so it isnt that necessary anymore. Worth it for the other rewards there or a change of pace if you like that

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:10 PM

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but the part where u have super over levelled and have to go down for ages

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is kinda aids

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but its fun

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 7:11 PM

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They adjusted the scaling a while ago so it is a lot better.

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This league I was further in delve than my map levels.

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:11 PM

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ah nice, ill have to try it out then

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i only played betrayal league

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Now with the awakened bonus maps drop like candy just mapping with chisel+alch

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:12 PM

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where can i see the awakened bonus?

bronze cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:12 PM

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middle of the atlas

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where the usual completion bonus is too

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you fist see it when you socket 4 stones into the same citadel

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:12 PM

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ah gotcha

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i only have 4 watchstones, working to get my 5th atm

shrewd gulch Dec 18, 2019, 7:16 PM

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@bronze cave how many watchstones do you have?

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also what you said about after 16 stones worked, thanks

tired cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:19 PM

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I don’t get reddit whining about the new atlas

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It’s superior to the old atlas in virtually every way

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Target farming is a lot harder which is one thing a lot of players enjoyed

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SSF for example is a lot harder without it.

tired cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:21 PM

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But atlas progression is significantly easier in ssf now

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 7:21 PM

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To be fair it wasn't that hard before anyway (assuming you knew what you were doing)

tired cave Dec 18, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Because you don’t need one specific map to spread influence, just any map in a region

timid geyser Dec 18, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Also note people enjoy complaining so if there is anything to complain about people will do it.

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:25 PM

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the higher the tier, the more quality/quantity of drop? like exalts?

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Target farming a single map is nearly impossible, it is very easy to target farm a specific region though

sweet knoll Dec 18, 2019, 7:43 PM

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anyone have a good resource for atlas mechanics?

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Gonna have to be more specific then that

sweet knoll Dec 18, 2019, 7:51 PM

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as in, what has changed eli5

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should i be completing each tier still to get map drop bonuses etc

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Why cant i see certain map on the atlas? is it hidden because it only appears when theres a watchstone in some part of the map?

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or just not discovered

coarse moon Dec 18, 2019, 7:57 PM

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the former

ornate belfry Dec 18, 2019, 7:57 PM

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can some1 explain or link me to a guied on how to get more watchstones afteryou get your first 4 pls?

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 7:58 PM

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And if its not visible for me atm, doing it will not complete it, right? because i killed the boss but didnt get a completed sign

sly tusk Dec 18, 2019, 8:13 PM

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If you just want super cut down easiest method: Only put stones in the 4 central areas at the start. Put 1 stone in 1, 2 in another, 3in a third then 4 in the final central region

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Only put stones in when you hit the number you want, so if you have 4, slot 1 in, then slot 2&3 in another region and store the 4th

high pike Dec 18, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Probably most people doing it this way but...look at organs when you "craft" boss. Rare organs is not always best. For example i had blue organ that drops 6-linked unique body armour. But i saw some streamers just fill up first ones that fills up bars the most.

midnight phoenix Dec 18, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Also unless u outgear the content severely ur looking at organs to make sure ur not gonna rip to som bs combo of mods + map mods

high pike Dec 18, 2019, 8:43 PM

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That too. I avoid extra life and life regen. That's no-no.

quaint halo Dec 18, 2019, 8:50 PM

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what mobs should you not use in metamorph?

midnight magnet Dec 18, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Been doing t5 maps to get the t6 influenced maps but with little luck, im mostly getting a lot of t4s. Is 65% atlas bonus too low? should i increase it before doing the influence stuff?

high pike Dec 18, 2019, 8:53 PM

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You mean mods on organ or? that depends...on build. How good gear you are. You should know pros and cons of your build. I just think extra life and life regen are kinda overtuned. Without that mod i destroy boss but with those i need like 1min or so

wild arch Dec 18, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Does this line mean that each arrow stacked will add this damage or is this damage added at the end after it calculates the arrow damage?

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midnight phoenix Dec 18, 2019, 9:08 PM

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U get 1 of those per arrow

round grail Dec 18, 2019, 10:04 PM

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Guys I have fail on Sirus, i'm trying to spawn Conqs again but after more than 50 t14+ , nothing's happened, do you have some tips ?

flat sparrow Dec 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

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lyric pine Dec 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

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keep trying

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it's random

toxic coral Dec 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

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wich side of the atlas is hunter?

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and wich is warlord

flat sparrow Dec 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

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picture, thousand words, all that jazz

round grail Dec 18, 2019, 10:10 PM

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How do you have this picture Thraxus ?

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ok ty

flat sparrow Dec 18, 2019, 10:10 PM

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i took it 😄

round grail Dec 18, 2019, 10:10 PM

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It's random so :/

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Do I need to do the exact Map + same tier of the atlas ?

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Or can I just run Higher tier like ... Fully t14+

eager terrace Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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the map has to be at least the region level

flat sparrow Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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i get the random bit, but the Region Level: # is a bit confusing

eager terrace Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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and your region has to have 4 Watchstones slotted to find an exile after Sirus

round grail Dec 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Ok @eager terrace So I can ... do ALL maps tier 16 and it will work ( it's an exemple"

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ok

flat sparrow Dec 18, 2019, 10:12 PM

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but for my pic above - Blue Orb - Not Obtained - Region Level: 0 Required to spawn Exile -- is that saying i need no orbs socketed, or 0 or more (so any #)?

errant tinsel Dec 18, 2019, 10:12 PM

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has anyone seen an orb of awakening yet?

eager terrace Dec 18, 2019, 10:12 PM

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you basically have to after sirus

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it should be any number at 0

flat sparrow Dec 18, 2019, 10:13 PM

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ok, and if it says Region Level 2, then 2 or more i assume?

eager terrace Dec 18, 2019, 10:13 PM

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yeah

flat sparrow Dec 18, 2019, 10:13 PM

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good deal, thanks 😄

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kinda figured, but wasn't sure

gloomy ivy Dec 18, 2019, 10:38 PM

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i am almost positive that influenced maps, on average, drop significantly less general loot than non-influenced maps. anyone else experience this? i dont feel like doing a large experiment, but if i have to..

midnight phoenix Dec 18, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Cant say ive noticed

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Anything is possible at this early stage i suppose

terse dagger Dec 18, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Any idea when they're going to have organs auto pickup?

midnight phoenix Dec 18, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Soon(tm)

wary smelt Dec 18, 2019, 11:19 PM

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im waiting for em to make it so minions take less damage vs sirus so i can try the fight again

rose pasture Dec 19, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Oh this is painful question. My minions are not living past whites even..

hollow wharf Dec 19, 2019, 1:36 AM

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https://poedb.tw/us/unique.php?n=The_Saviour

rose pasture Dec 19, 2019, 1:44 AM

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What skill to use with it? Maby L'll try

lyric mango Dec 19, 2019, 1:53 AM

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boys , I think i ruined my map. I have no t14s, Any way to get more keystones so I can build up to this or do I just need to buy maps to clear influence

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rocky bridge Dec 19, 2019, 1:56 AM

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what is this

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oh

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just looks like a region

cursive widget Dec 19, 2019, 2:01 AM

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hey guys, has anyone done sirus and gotten a guardian to spawn after doing him? Either success or fail?

wary smelt Dec 19, 2019, 2:36 AM

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yep just really low chances

eager terrace Dec 19, 2019, 4:23 AM

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yeah at 19 stones atm I think

somber lava Dec 19, 2019, 4:34 AM

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is there a bug where you dont get organs/other loot from the league mechanic when you put too much stuff in it?

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https://i.imgur.com/u8Zxcuw.jpg

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got no organ/no div cards/no currency

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only got rare talismans

violet nymph Dec 19, 2019, 4:36 AM

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is there any real difference between different colored watch stones? No matter if I put a green red yellow or blue one in a certain region, the same maps appear

slender temple Dec 19, 2019, 4:43 AM

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The colour matters for interaction with the areas where you haven't spawned an exile of that colour

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It's not immediately intuitive but it makes sense. I think it could be updated

magic kayak Dec 19, 2019, 5:04 AM

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is there a sirius guide somewhere? I think I just literally died 6 times before he was even targetable, im missing some visual queue or im just plain dumb

covert ibex Dec 19, 2019, 6:09 AM

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is there a way to target farm specific parts? I get a liver or eyes for every 600 of every other part

red wharf Dec 19, 2019, 6:10 AM

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hey, have you guys changed chiseling strategy? Do you use them just like pre 3.9, or are you saving them/money? Currently they're 3chisels:1c. With atlas progression being longer journey, chiseling them from t10+ maps would be draining on economy I think

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for example, do you instead use chisels mostly for key maps needed for spawning conquerors/completing for atlas bonus or higher tier maps in general ?

vast gazelle Dec 19, 2019, 6:15 AM

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im saving em rn, not sure when to use them tbh

heavy glacier Dec 19, 2019, 6:15 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/yJ3ZzJe.jpg

Imgur

vast gazelle Dec 19, 2019, 6:15 AM

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niceee

heavy glacier Dec 19, 2019, 6:15 AM

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either rng or mirror currency

red wharf Dec 19, 2019, 6:22 AM

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@vast gazelle what map tiers are you currently on?

vast gazelle Dec 19, 2019, 6:23 AM

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@red wharf t9-12

livid rose Dec 19, 2019, 6:25 AM

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hey so anyone know why augment orbs lower the catalyst quality?

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 6:25 AM

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because quality gets consumed when crafting

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 7:37 AM

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What sort of prices are metamorph parts selling for?

languid lake Dec 19, 2019, 7:51 AM

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is it possible for people to keep the discussion to metamorph in here instead of half of it being conqueror stuff that could go in #1┃endgame-help

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sry if this comes off as rude but i try to read interesting metamorph mechanics and all i see is atlas completion stuff lol

somber lava Dec 19, 2019, 7:54 AM

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arent conquerors part of the metamorph league

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Nah, they're hanging around, that's a core game rework

abstract lava Dec 19, 2019, 7:55 AM

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metamorph parts sell for trash apart for livers (if i remember correctly) since you get a inflex of other organs

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Can they actually be sold via poetrade or the official trade website?

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Most likely but it will be as annoying as selling Timeless Jewels pretty much

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Poetrade will let you, but there are a whopping two sellers there

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 7:58 AM

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I mean the realm just restarted

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Oh lmfao of course, it's only showing those online.

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Looking like eyes are going at around 4-5c apiece. Livers are cheaper, around 2-3c

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mb I'll sell some of the spare parts, gotta afford my Nebuloch somehow :<

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 8:00 AM

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I have a whole stash of iLevel 80+ parts but like no eyes at all

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:00 AM

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i just need eyes and livers

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ive got so much of everything else

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Weirdly enough I've got three eyes, and only one of all the others

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 8:01 AM

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I wish there would be another level of metamorphs

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Like you get normal parts from maps and even stronger parts from those in Tane's lab

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:03 AM

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i wish i could fight the ones in the lab more often

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but i seem to be lacking parts -.-

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Lab fights are way too easy compared to what they throw at you in t16s

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 8:05 AM

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I haven't been brave enough to test anything in lab yet, how rough is a mostly-level-72 metamorph?

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Or, in general actually. Better or worse than their map-tier counterparts?

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Its dead before you can even attack it

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 8:06 AM

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lab giga morphs are a lot easier than map metamorphs because they have no map modifiers

fickle iris Dec 19, 2019, 8:06 AM

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lmao

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I'm ~76 on a jugg so it's probably not dead quite that fast

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But the lack of map mods is a v good point

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 8:07 AM

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I mean Metamorphs in maps below t14-ish are pretty easy in general

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Everything above that is oof

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:08 AM

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honestly even in maps my metamorphs dont threaten me

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they just take longer to kill

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 8:08 AM

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If you can even kill them

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:08 AM

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also ffs

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my atlas is bugged

primal whale Dec 19, 2019, 8:08 AM

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I had a 900% more monster life one with 5 regen mods

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:08 AM

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redeemer has been on my atlas for over 35 maps, and ive run 20+ in her influence, still dont have her fucking citadel

livid hare Dec 19, 2019, 8:27 AM

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anyone know what these are?

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coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:28 AM

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any unique that only drops in a zone with the [League] tag

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 8:28 AM

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items that were restricted to old leagues

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:28 AM

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so for example, Headhunter :p

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 8:28 AM

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like headhunter, the berek rings

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stuff like that

livid hare Dec 19, 2019, 8:30 AM

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neat ig

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analog flame Dec 19, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Oh shit I need that for my new character, geif, haven’t priced it might be 1c for all I know

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Never mind forgot I decided to go CI 🙄

half ember Dec 19, 2019, 9:13 AM

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does it make any difference to teh drops if you happen to die while fighting the metamorph boss?

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 9:26 AM

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no

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drops in PoE are never affected by how much you die or fuck up a fight as long as you manage to kill it

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no, actually that's a lie, for uber elder it matters if you let shaper die

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but that's the onlyone I think of

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 9:37 AM

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normal elder

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for uber you have to kill the shaper

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 9:38 AM

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ya, my bad

tender dirge Dec 19, 2019, 11:08 AM

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when ggg is going to add autopick up

hollow wharf Dec 19, 2019, 11:11 AM

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later this week

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 11:42 AM

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^ maybe

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someone from GGG earlier said here that it's still in testing and changes might happen

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and they can't give an ETA

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so don't hold your breath

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 11:53 AM

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would be nice though, alot of clickity click atm

lyric shuttle Dec 19, 2019, 11:57 AM

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hi PAPA 🙂

vivid surge Dec 19, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Is there a right way to use the metamorph blender? Or is it just dump all the rarest shit in randomly

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 12:01 PM

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high ilvl = more bar filled = more loot

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other than that combine the bonuses you want from the pieces I guess

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Sup d3viant

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See you're hitting almost 90

red jackal Dec 19, 2019, 12:06 PM

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if you die to the metamorph in the arena you lose the metamorph, right?

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 12:07 PM

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I haven't died yet so not sure but I presume it works like the bestiary encounter

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which would mean yes

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it's quite hard to fail them as they are very easy

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 12:08 PM

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My first one was super nervous, but was very easy

red jackal Dec 19, 2019, 12:08 PM

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I'm just not sure if I want to dump all my gg i83 organs in it since my char is quite squishy ;)

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Do it !!

red jackal Dec 19, 2019, 12:10 PM

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spectacular

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died right before it died so it dropped nothing

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https://i.imgur.com/vi0S8NA.jpg

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I can loot that stuff too

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oh well, just a few ex in loot lost :P

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 12:11 PM

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oh damn

analog flame Dec 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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I’m honestly not even doing the metamorph stuff until they add auto pick up, it takes too much for the little loot I’ve gotten so far

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I have been doing it up to level 90 but cba now, onto my second character and I’m not bothering

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 12:59 PM

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your loss

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 1:01 PM

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it's literally not that big a deal

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for something that can guarantee you 6l and other useful things

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 1:03 PM

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for literal free money

patent canyon Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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not exactly free its more of opportunity cost for max returns out of single map

analog flame Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Eh I got an exalt while levelling each character that’s more than any metamorph has given me

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:18 PM

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The one you dont do could have dropped a mirror

patent canyon Dec 19, 2019, 1:22 PM

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make sure to open every barrel too, everything is mirror

thorny vortex Dec 19, 2019, 1:22 PM

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i got an ex from a rock in chamber of sins once

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Got 2 so far in this game from barrels

violet nymph Dec 19, 2019, 1:36 PM

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I’ve gotten six exalts and like 5 of them were from currency metamorphs so you better believe I am going for em

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Last time I went to the lab I had 1 metamorph drop an exalt and a divine

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Feels fairly common from them

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 1:37 PM

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I got a 6l lithe, a 21/23 vaal arc and a 21/23 vaal blight from metamorphs so far

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definitely worth as far as I am concerned

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and those are just the big drops

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:38 PM

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I got a hyrri's ire chest from one

violet nymph Dec 19, 2019, 1:38 PM

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yea theyre honestly quite good

bronze cave Dec 19, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Picking up metamorph stuff makes it take even longer until i can spawn awakener again

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so im not doing it anymore

frank hound Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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I mean do whatever you enjoy

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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Yeah

bronze cave Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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I'm praying for a patch that changes the accessibility of awakener fight

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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I dint like to click all the organs on he ground but its worth it for me

bronze cave Dec 19, 2019, 1:43 PM

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I wont be playing much until after christmas, until then we hopefully have auto pickup

red jackal Dec 19, 2019, 1:43 PM

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we will

bronze cave Dec 19, 2019, 1:43 PM

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and maybe it doesnt take ages to spawn the big dude anymore

analog flame Dec 19, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Well no when we get auto pick up it’s Just do the map, click click click new boss boom

woeful gyro Dec 19, 2019, 1:48 PM

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I don't understand watchstones, different guides say to use them on the inner maps but the ones I'm getting look like they can only be applied to outer maps

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Some maps drop very high amounts of organs. Do more drop than can fit in the thingy?

analog flame Dec 19, 2019, 1:49 PM

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They aren’t specific to any citadel

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And yes papa

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You get lots to chose from but a lot of them are ‘useless’

woeful gyro Dec 19, 2019, 1:49 PM

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when I try and socket in an inner map it says something like 1 required and it won't let me socket it in any region other than the one where it dropped

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Sure, but if u have 8 hearts, can you scroll them?

analog flame Dec 19, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Hmm strange I can place any of mine in any

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Scroll them ?

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Like there's only 6 or so slots in each row of an organ

analog flame Dec 19, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Oh you mean scroll through them, I don’t think more would drop than what appears in the window

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Plus the ‘best’ ones are always on the left

past badger Dec 19, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Hmmm, ok then . Tx

next palm Dec 19, 2019, 1:57 PM

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How do you craft in this game

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opps in wrong chat

lyric shuttle Dec 19, 2019, 2:42 PM

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this map CAN drop the incomplete connected one, right? https://i.imgur.com/9FzsK9k.jpg

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even if it's higher tier?

potent jay Dec 19, 2019, 2:54 PM

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correct me if I am wrong, but the uncompleted map can only drop if it is tier 6 or lower, since you can only drop 2 tiers higher than the map you are running

small mirage Dec 19, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Do catalysts apply to crafted mods?

potent jay Dec 19, 2019, 2:55 PM

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they should, no reason not to

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as long as they are the right category

hollow wharf Dec 19, 2019, 3:21 PM

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yes, applied

ornate belfry Dec 19, 2019, 3:31 PM

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i am currently chasing my 6th watch stone, and got an area influenced, can i do another area and have that also influenced? or should i just keep camping map in my current influenced area?

potent jay Dec 19, 2019, 3:32 PM

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you can have multiple areas influenced at the same time. but keep in mind that once they influence a region you can't alter the amount of watchstones in that region till they are killed in that region

ornate belfry Dec 19, 2019, 3:33 PM

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thanks a lot bro

wanton flower Dec 19, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Does the conquerers' health scale with awakening level at the time they spawn? or when the influence starts?

south hazel Dec 19, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Anyone know how to summon sirus again if you lost 1st time?

wanton flower Dec 19, 2019, 4:45 PM

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you have to spawn all of the conquerer's again and fight them I believe.

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so 3 maps in each zone I think?

south hazel Dec 19, 2019, 4:46 PM

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wow that takes forever, thanks tho

shut briar Dec 19, 2019, 5:14 PM

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uh... i've loaded 2 instances and i haven't found any metamorphs.. i know i'm in league

covert ibex Dec 19, 2019, 5:15 PM

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You don't find metamorphs

shut briar Dec 19, 2019, 5:29 PM

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what

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well i know i make them but you know what i mean

civic wyvern Dec 19, 2019, 5:36 PM

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So is Sirus strength affected by how many stones are in the atlas total?

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or is it the awakened level?

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 5:37 PM

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awakened level

civic wyvern Dec 19, 2019, 5:37 PM

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and 0 has no drops right?

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 5:37 PM

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yep

civic wyvern Dec 19, 2019, 5:37 PM

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is 1 alot harder? I kinda just wanna learn his mechanics

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not sure if I should try 1 or 0

covert ibex Dec 19, 2019, 5:42 PM

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My buddy was dumping on t16 and couldn't even do awakener 1

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Just got oneshot

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 5:42 PM

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well

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yeah

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youre not supposed to get hit

covert ibex Dec 19, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Well he has big attacks, blobs that block you and force you to move

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Just play sabo easy awakener because sabo is dumb

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 5:45 PM

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you say that but most farmers are summoners

covert ibex Dec 19, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Ok sabo and necro, both braindead

copper kernel Dec 19, 2019, 5:46 PM

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if you say so

outer stratus Dec 19, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i dont understand why i dont have citadel in valdos rest yet?
how am i supposed to progress

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solid thunder Dec 19, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Have you done 3 different maps in the zone?

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needs to be 3 done to get citadel

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 6:42 PM

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do a t3 map in that region

fast spoke Dec 19, 2019, 7:10 PM

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The first citadels spawn in the corner areas

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The section that the exile is in will change colour on your atlas

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Oh nevermind yeah looks like you might have just not clicked into it to activate it in the area so like NoName said just run a t3

gritty anchor Dec 19, 2019, 7:31 PM

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What does filling up the bar in Tane's lab do?

spice cipher Dec 19, 2019, 7:36 PM

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if you fill the bar it drops a unique part

gritty anchor Dec 19, 2019, 7:36 PM

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I mean in Tane's lab

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I just filled up the bar there with Ilvl 80+ parts and it was glowing just as the bar does in regular maps

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But once I killed the metamorph nothing happened. Nothing of particular value or such

spice cipher Dec 19, 2019, 7:37 PM

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think in the lab its just an indicator

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like how difficult it will be

gritty anchor Dec 19, 2019, 7:37 PM

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:x

latent onyx Dec 19, 2019, 7:46 PM

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why does sometimes when i fill the bar of the metamorph boss on a map its full but not glowing?

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is it random whether I can get a part or not in each map?

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or do only specific maps have the ability to drop meta parts?

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 7:49 PM

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full but not glowing would be like, 99.9% full

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imagine when something is alive but you can barely see its hp

latent onyx Dec 19, 2019, 7:49 PM

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but it happens this often?

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 7:50 PM

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just use 1 higher tier piece in one of the slots

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altho sometimes a map flatout wont have the right spawns for a piece to drop

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it happens

next epoch Dec 19, 2019, 7:50 PM

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You (probably?) have to use at least one unique part from the map boss to make the bar fill. Some maps may not spawn enough high-rarity parts to make it possible to fill the bar, and that's lame but whatever :/

latent onyx Dec 19, 2019, 7:50 PM

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this is while using the highest ones

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all the leftmost options

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 7:50 PM

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if you're using the 5 highest you have, it was a bad map

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it happens

latent onyx Dec 19, 2019, 7:51 PM

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it happens like every 3rd map or so

languid torrent Dec 19, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Your map tier is too low if that's happening. Once you're in red maps, pretty much every metamorph will drop an organ

void vigil Dec 19, 2019, 8:35 PM

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are you alching your maps

frigid holly Dec 19, 2019, 8:42 PM

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How does one get access to Tane's lab? Is it a unique map or something?

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:46 PM

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talk to him

frigid holly Dec 19, 2019, 8:47 PM

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No obvious menu item on him I could see (does it only appear once you have a full set of organs?)

coarse moon Dec 19, 2019, 8:48 PM

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nah I was there before I had a full set I’m pretty sure

frigid holly Dec 19, 2019, 8:50 PM

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hmm ok, I mjst just have been blind when I looked. Will check again this evening!

frail sluice Dec 19, 2019, 8:54 PM

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So I have 1 watchstone in each of the four corner areas. What do I need to do to progress? Go for the inner 4 areas? Socketing the corners makes them t6+ so running the original t3-4 will never give me yellow maps. I don't get it. Plese help 🙂

vast gazelle Dec 19, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Yeah from there put em into center things and spawn there

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And work your way around the atlas farming up more stones

frail sluice Dec 19, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Okay, So I socket them in 1 stone in each corner. Then focus on running 3 (or more?) maps in the inner areas?

vast gazelle Dec 19, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Nono

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You put one each into the center zone citadels

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Farm up maps in those regions

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Get the conquerors there

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Then pick 1 or 2 regions and put more stones at a time in them

pallid quartz Dec 19, 2019, 9:59 PM

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i got my 16th influenced zone but i cannot get the citadel to spawn, ive ran 6 different maps in the zone of the correct tiers but the boss fight isnt spawning, what do i do>?

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and i cant get other influence to spawn probably because this is the last influence i can get before the awakener

sly tusk Dec 19, 2019, 10:04 PM

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you sure you're running them at upgrade level 3?

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and that you're running 3 distinct maps?

pallid quartz Dec 19, 2019, 10:06 PM

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yes

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ive ran 6 different maps same tiers as the zone

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and 2 maps i reran in vain hope

sly tusk Dec 19, 2019, 10:09 PM

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what does the quest sidebar say to do?

pallid quartz Dec 19, 2019, 10:10 PM

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im gonna try a higher tier map now maybe it thinks its 4 watchstones even though its 3

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and apparently that was indeed what happened

magic kayak Dec 19, 2019, 10:39 PM

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do influenced items only drop from citadels? I have awakening level 4 which saysa 20% chance to drop items in influenced zones but i havent gotten a single drop outside of citadels

sly tusk Dec 19, 2019, 10:56 PM

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is the awakening map drop bonus additive, or a separate roll for upgrade?

leaden storm Dec 19, 2019, 10:56 PM

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i've been told additive

torpid yarrow Dec 19, 2019, 10:59 PM

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I just failed the Sirus the Awakener bossfight after getting 16 orbs and influence isn't spreading despite me doing maps in the correct zone. Do I need to kill him in order to progress? My quest says "Explore the Atlas and defeat the Elderslayers"

sly tusk Dec 19, 2019, 11:21 PM

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It's not gaurenteed after the 16

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its only a chance to spawn them, you can get very unlucky

last axle Dec 19, 2019, 11:21 PM

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how to progress? do i just w/e maps?

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sly tusk Dec 19, 2019, 11:25 PM

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hover over the boxes on the left

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tells you what you gotta do

slender temple Dec 19, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I feel like the ux on the box column on the left is unfinished

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It should show what is Socketed without highlighting

quaint light Dec 19, 2019, 11:55 PM

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what is the diffrence between the chest icon for currency and chaos icon for currency on an organ?

last axle Dec 19, 2019, 11:58 PM

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@sly tusk some say region level 0 required to spawn exile

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others say 4

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like this

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do i just run those maps or wtf?

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I havent spawn any conqueror in forever

raw marten Dec 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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i fucked up the awakener fight, now i have one area marked but no one is spawning anymore, ran like 10 maps in that area and nothing is happening, how do i get him back 😦

sly tusk Dec 20, 2019, 12:08 AM

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I'd try it chromenut

junior skiff Dec 20, 2019, 1:05 AM

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did any1 notice that additional currency item organ has both chest and chaos orb icon?

livid hare Dec 20, 2019, 1:07 AM

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I've seen the chest apply for a rare weapon or armor I think as well.

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Chest is random reward.

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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has GGG stated whether or not the next patch will fix the influence not doing influence bug?

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Influence not doing influence bug?

vast gazelle Dec 20, 2019, 1:19 AM

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yo, where does ivory tower drop from

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is it any conqueror or a specific one

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 1:32 AM

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@mortal yarrow I’ve had a conqueror spawned for 2 days now and she refuses to influence any map from her region

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 1:35 AM

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can you do me a favour and screenshot the area for me? @coarse moon

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 1:35 AM

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mhm

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 1:36 AM

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dm it when you can then :)

leaden cypress Dec 20, 2019, 1:55 AM

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@last axle it looks like you are running that area with region lvl 1, take out your watchstone and run it then. You do need to target the watchstones for your areas once you get to that point

olive aurora Dec 20, 2019, 2:15 AM

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The region levels are exact, not "at least". You need the exact level stated to get a conquerer to spawn.

primal whale Dec 20, 2019, 2:18 AM

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I'm not sure about that. I was able to spawn conquerors using higher tier maps &Watchstones than required

leaden cypress Dec 20, 2019, 2:20 AM

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you sure you didnt spawn the higher level ones? As far as I can tell you have to do one at each tier, but you can do the higher level ones before the lower. Cuz I cant seem to spawn another at lvl 3 on mine (maybe just awful luck)

primal whale Dec 20, 2019, 2:20 AM

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I have 30/32 watchstones so you tell me

magic kayak Dec 20, 2019, 2:20 AM

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hmmm, delve city map boxes dont work ?

leaden cypress Dec 20, 2019, 2:22 AM

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but did you for sure do like 2-3 of them at the same level in the same zone? or did you just rush to red maps and do them all then?

primal whale Dec 20, 2019, 2:23 AM

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I rushed 4 watchstones &then did every region individually cause that way you can target farm maps

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 2:28 AM

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^

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region by region is real nice

worn totem Dec 20, 2019, 3:26 AM

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anyone know if i can run the same map 20 times to spawn exile after 17th watchstone? or does it have to be different maps?

gray jackal Dec 20, 2019, 3:41 AM

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i dont get how catalyst works lol

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someone can easy explain?

hollow wharf Dec 20, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Metamorph encounters can also drop Catalysts, a new type of currency item that adds quality to jewellery. There are many types of jewellery quality, each related to a set of mods. The quality value on a piece of jewellery scales up the magnitude of related mods on the item and can be consumed through crafting to increase the chances of rolling related mods.

raven hawk Dec 20, 2019, 3:58 AM

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region level 2 required == 2 socketed watchstones?

hollow wharf Dec 20, 2019, 4:07 AM

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at least 2

raven hawk Dec 20, 2019, 4:08 AM

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ok cool - so I'm having a hard time understanding how the map tiers work. Say I have two socketed watchstones in a region I need and my Haunted Mansion on the atlas is Tier9. But, I only have a tier 4 or 5 or whatever it is map (the base one), does running this map count or what or how does that work?

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:09 AM

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see it as shaper's orb before

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the map was T4 orginally

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you have now made it T9

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so you will start getting the T9 from now on

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thats how i understand it atleast

raven hawk Dec 20, 2019, 4:09 AM

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so if I run the baseline version of the map will that have a chance to generate influence or does it need to be the tier on the atlas?

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:09 AM

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need to be the tier

raven hawk Dec 20, 2019, 4:10 AM

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ok awesome, that is helpful - thanks

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:11 AM

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but as i said im not 100% sure

hollow wharf Dec 20, 2019, 4:17 AM

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it said region required not region equal, but region equal is must

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:21 AM

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never had it appear when i ran maps from previous levels personally

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 4:50 AM

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afaik the entire mechanic is rippy stuff

primal whale Dec 20, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Yeah, people get oneshot with really tanky jugg builds

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:54 AM

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i mean

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a tier list of rippy stuff

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is everything

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 AM

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u avoid the entire league mechanic

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u also avoid legion/blight

next epoch Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

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avoid everything, sitting in hideout is most survivable

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

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^ wise words

primal whale Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Dont even create a character

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

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play trade league the way it was meant to be played

primal whale Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

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no way you die then

next epoch Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 AM

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well, almost no way

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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a wild sylas has appeared

wary smelt Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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remember that bug were ppl could summon monsters in hideout

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was cuz of ppl raising spectres that summoned mobs on death i believe

next epoch Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 AM

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even without bugs you can accidentally kill yourself with flasks

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:01 AM

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true

next epoch Dec 20, 2019, 5:01 AM

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or intentionally, if that's your thing

coarse moon Dec 20, 2019, 5:17 AM

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@mortal yarrow okay i figured out what was causing what i thought was a bug

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your AL needs to match/exceed the bonus AL on the influenced map you are running in order to get progress

mortal yarrow Dec 20, 2019, 5:18 AM

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ahhh

soft wind Dec 20, 2019, 5:40 AM

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ok how do you fix your awakener fight if the portals on the door

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 5:40 AM

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you don't

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better luck next time

soft wind Dec 20, 2019, 5:41 AM

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RIP LOL

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violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 5:49 AM

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i hate when this happens 😦

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weak gull Dec 20, 2019, 5:58 AM

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is it me or is metamorph kinda 70% not worth the effort at low levels

livid hare Dec 20, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Yeah, pretty much. It felt easy at the very beginning, then got too difficult until like act 7 or something.

past badger Dec 20, 2019, 6:01 AM

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it helped with the start of the league, dropping some currency etc

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i gues on a 2nd character, it'd be useless

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in levelling

livid hare Dec 20, 2019, 6:04 AM

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if you can't consistently kill them, then it's probably more harmful

still merlin Dec 20, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Is there a known bug with not spawning the last elderslayer

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stuck on 31 watchstones for several hours now

versed dock Dec 20, 2019, 7:01 AM

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Not to like be sceptical/worrysome, but the update for instantly getting the metamorph organs should be coming soon right; otherwise they might be on christmas leave

silver kettle Dec 20, 2019, 7:03 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/ecwf6l/raiders_head_pokes_through_the_crucible_hood_mtx/fbf2c88/?context=3 @versed dock

cobalt falcon Dec 20, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Is there any metamorph boss exclusive unique

versed dock Dec 20, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Ah thanks @silver kettle !

cursive widget Dec 20, 2019, 7:38 AM

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does anyone know if the mechanics are random for spawning guardians after the first sirus fight? Seems kind of bugged

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it's definitely not 3 maps and they spawn thats for sure

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Seems like I have to run like 5-8 t14 region level 4 maps just to get the influence then another 5-8 more to finally get to fight them in their citadel

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 7:46 AM

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anyone know what the rules are on encountering conq influence AFTER initially spawning them? can i just do the same map over and over?

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and it's def rng on when u find them after spawning

open minnow Dec 20, 2019, 8:45 AM

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anyone playing wild strike (lighting ) ?

livid hare Dec 20, 2019, 8:53 AM

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think I might have figured out a trend.....

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languid lake Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 AM

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@cursive widget they actually specificed that it wasnt 3 maps after first 4

barren crescent Dec 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Has anyone figured put what does the chaos orb and chest icon mean for "additional currency"

livid hare Dec 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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no, but based on the above, I'm thinking quality vs quantity

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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@violet nymph pre-16 watchstones it's guaranteed to encounter when you run a map in that zone. You can run map A, B, A or A,B,C, but no permutations where you repeat the same map twice.

That rule holds true for post 16, except now your chance to encounter is 33%. Once encountered it's 100% chance to meet them in the next 2 maps in that zone.

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 9:27 AM

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weird.. i'm on post 16 and i haven't re-encountered al hezminn at all after spawning him

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idk what i'm doing wrong

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

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for me it's literally always worked, so I have to assume that's just how it works.

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

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so i'm either super unlucky or doing something wrong

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Any time I get them to spawn, so long as I run a map in that area, they always reappear in the next 2 maps

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that or I'm getting stupid lucky

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already up to like 20 watchstones

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

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yeah, here's the thing, i marked it on my atlas

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the numbers on each map are the amt of times i've ran that map since spawning al-hezminn

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and i've never ran any map more than once consecutively

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but i haven't seen him again since he spawned

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lol

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so in 12 maps he's just been absent ?_?

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

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maybe the inner maps are different?

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also have you checked your hideout to make sure zana doesn't have a mission for you

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cause they don't give you a quest popup on the side after 16

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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yeah i know, and nah she doesn't

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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fuck I was really hoping I solved it there

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 9:35 AM

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i've attempted sirus twice and i have twenty watchstones as well but yea

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cant re-encounter the snake boy anymore it seems

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by my luck the patch notes for 3.9.1 coming up here will say something about bugged conquerors lmao

lyric pine Dec 20, 2019, 9:36 AM

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there's definitely been a few of those already

zenith warren Dec 20, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Goodfuckingdamn it

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kudukuwobble

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I can choose my bodypart i want from the bosses

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How nice is that

hazy light Dec 20, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Apparently not anyway, doesnt work after the patch atleast

opal nacelle Dec 20, 2019, 10:49 AM

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If i don't fight sirius, can the other conquerers still spawn?

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

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hay the patchnotes say u can choose which part u want to get heart liver brain etc? how does that work or its bugged currently???

wicked topaz Dec 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Quick question regarding the Baron fight: If you want to do the Conditional challenge for Baron with the mana tiles, can you stand on the side and have someone else being affected by it? And you still get the challenge completion?

sacred gate Dec 20, 2019, 10:59 AM

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@violet nymph You cannot choose, but now every part can drop from every boss. Before, each boss could drop only some of the 5 parts.

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 10:59 AM

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oh so i missunderstand that ! thanks

cinder leaf Dec 20, 2019, 11:21 AM

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so you mean the drop chance for the uniq organs are equal now? correct me if I'm wrong

analog flame Dec 20, 2019, 11:23 AM

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20% for each I believe yes

mystic ravine Dec 20, 2019, 11:35 AM

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http://prntscr.com/qdio7u where did my watchstone thingie go 😦

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nvm smooth brain

pale verge Dec 20, 2019, 12:40 PM

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finally

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the shortage of eyes was killing me

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i have a tab full of hearts and lungs

violet nymph Dec 20, 2019, 12:45 PM

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I just experienced a wrong warp I entered the Vaal area at 1 and exited the first area at the entrance to 2

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timid geyser Dec 20, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Yeah, that happens in any zone that has multi vaal side areas in it.

pale verge Dec 20, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Some people were crashing/getting errors in maps with multiple vaal side areas, be careful with those

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My only gripe there is that mods dont carry so its something of a waste of time if you are not fragment hunting

faint ravine Dec 20, 2019, 1:27 PM

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So, i've grinded a full stashtab of itemized body parts. Is there anything to be looking for before metamoprhing them together?=

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I.e. are there like mod-combinations that somehow make it more valuable than just the individual parts would?