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[dawn radish]

Will they have phases ?

[violet nymph]

uhh

probably not

[dawn radish]

So we can one shot them in map right

[violet nymph]

and yes @quiet geyser

yeah probably

[dawn radish]

Cause I will do map clear build , when I m facing them , I will open vaal rf and haste

[violet nymph]

according to the images we've seen though, they get more and more life

so they might have an absolute fuckton of life at endgame

[dawn radish]

But if they have phase I cant one shot them 🙂

[violet nymph]

they probably won't have phases

but they probably won't be oneshotted easier either

i imagine you can't kill them while they're changing form

🤷

no idea

[dawn radish]

Yes I was talking about that

They were immune to damage when they are changing form

But changing form is avaible for our bosses

[quiet geyser]

thx

[dawn radish]

When we are getting boss pieces , I think they wont change form

@violet nymph what do u think about this

[violet nymph]

no idea

i don't really care if they're phased or not

[dawn radish]

Ok thx anyway mate 👍

[deep wave]

Holy shit some of these "awakened" support gems

some will be worth barely more than a lv21 while some will be 10ex+ (awakened curse on hit WTF)

[brazen arch]

whats everyone going with as a league starter? yall playing hc or sc?

[silver kettle]

their rarity is also weighted apparently

[deep wave]

oh...

[silver kettle]

I expect the good ones will be very rare and thus very expensive

[deep wave]

@brazen arch CoD discharge HC

[native sonnet]

planned a build with 4 woke supp gems >_<

[deep wave]

jk... probably a miner

[silver kettle]

@brazen arch I'm going back to skele necro. not feeling any of the new stuff as a starter, though I'm keen to make an eshroud voltaxic build later...

SC cause I'm bad

[brazen arch]

i have an issue with transitioning to sc from hc

i started learning poe playing hc

never played sc

[deep wave]

im suprised icicle mine had a reasonable nerf and skitterbots too

miners are insane... just a little squishy

[copper kernel]

skitterbots are unchanged tho

indirectly touched by the shock changes but that hardly matters

[hollow wharf]

any idea how Ivory Watchstone work? the three new Sextants could only apply on Ivory Watchstone?

[copper kernel]

i dont htink weve had any info on those

[native sonnet]

i thought we would have more watchstones than that tbh

also unsure if those "quest item" watchstones are the ones u socket on ur atlas , but guessing yes

[hollow wharf]

Ivory Watchstone should have many types, trade-able and apply Sextants

[native sonnet]

hmm, i gues it makes sense since it's the only "Atlas Region Upgrade Item"

[chilly rivet]

I forgot if it was confirmed or not, can we stack gems like added fire support and Awakened Added Fire Damage Support in the new league?

[native sonnet]

unconfirmed 1 way or the other (that i know of)

[wild arch]

@chilly rivet they confirmed several times that woke gems don't stack with their base version

[chilly rivet]

thank you

[amber sky]

the woke gems will be expensive af

also that curse on hit

[wild arch]

Rip barrage ailments

[amber sky]

wdym

[eager terrace]

barrage is a pure less multi now

not less proj

[amber sky]

OH

[wild arch]

Might just have to do galvanic poison

Since with barrage every arrow technically counts as 2

Or just fuck poison I guess >_>

[violet nymph]

Barrage PS got hit hard for poison wander :(

[wild arch]

Nah PS and SS are still good

And galvanic to an extent

[violet nymph]

Well I lost 60% damage with that change to barrage

I went from 9mil to 2.5ish

[wild arch]

Which is fair

[violet nymph]

Which for poison is lackluster

[wild arch]

Yeah those are bullshit numbers

[violet nymph]

The good poison builds stack poison up much higher dps

[wild arch]

Use the actual barrage instead then

It's gonna be practically the same

But won't feel as if you're losing out

[violet nymph]

May have to.

Luckily my clear is unaffected by everything else

So zoom zoom KB clear is a go

[pseudo cedar]

The awakened curse on hit adding one more curse ia definitely gotta get nerf just like how they remove the +1 additional curse enchant on armors

[violet nymph]

Oh shit. Wait. That's another gain 8% phys as chaos for me.

Nut

[plucky frost]

Hmmm Awakened Spell echo or Unleash for Blade vortex.

That 19% double damage seems juicy

[violet nymph]

I'll be honest. Unleash

But only cuz it cuts a stat requirement out of the build

[worn crane]

How many bosses can be morphed ?

[patent canyon]

5645646641

[sharp wind]

5645646642

[amber sky]

was it confirmed / explained somewhere if the new multimod is multimod +3 crafts or multimod +2 crafts?

because the wording on it is really confusing imo

[small mirage]

Multimod +2

[amber sky]

got a source on that?

[small mirage]

Nope but pretty sure that was from an official source

[amber sky]

oh i found it

ye ur right

The 'of Crafting' crafted suffix which previously allowed you to craft any number of additional mods on the item now allows you to craft up to three mods on the item. This affects existing items (items with the mod will now be limited to 2 additional crafts),

[small mirage]

👍

[hot gyro]

hmmm

[copper kernel]

it has the same tags

[hot gyro]

but not the bow req. text

[copper kernel]

you can VERY safely assume its the same

[rare valve]

They did that with all the awakened gems

[patent canyon]

you mean i cant throw my hammer into air and make a nova?

[rare valve]

just put in plain text instead of the full description

[copper kernel]

considering your hammer isnt an arrow, probably not

[patent canyon]

what if i name it an arrow 🤔

launch myself into air, split into 5 different party members and start cycloning all over place

wait, this is it. This is what melee rework should be

[fluid widget]

My question is, what does the awakened nova gain as it levels

They said the woke gems are better at level 1 right? The only thing's it has is the standard double quality bonus and +1 arrow, but it has 5 levels

[timid geyser]

I wouldn't be surprised if woke arrow nova has a higher less damage multiplier at lower levels.

[slender temple]

@patent canyon word of reflection as a scalable skill basically

[leaden cypress]

for the most part they all seem to be kinda like that - Lvl 1 awakened is ~lvl21 with double quality bonus's - some have something added on top

[dusty umbra]

level 5 awakened = ~Level 23-25/40

[rocky nebula]

is there a bow skill that poisons on its own?

[patent canyon]

nope

[wild arch]

Just figured out the best use for manastorm

Trickster cyclone coc BL and mjolner with BL

Wait no

You need to cast a spell .-.

Lighting warp trickster it is then

[timid geyser]

Not playing assassin for lightning warp build

[dusty umbra]

not playing lightning warp totems

[rocky nebula]

Not playing

[small mirage]

they will drop from the conqueror bosses

not a guaranteed drop and also they are weighted

thats about all we know

[wild arch]

@timid geyser why assassin?

[timid geyser]

3 words: Herald of Ice

Easiest way to fix one of lightning warps problems which is clear.

[wild arch]

Ok and how are you gonna fix the most important mana sustain problem?

[timid geyser]

EB

Like most caster builds.

[wild arch]

This isn't a normal caster build tho

You need to have a big mana pool and some way to refill it to full every 4 seconds while continuing to cast

[timid geyser]

Wait, now your talking about manastorm lightning warp that a completely different thing.

[wild arch]

That's what I was talking about in the first place >_>

[timid geyser]

Are you self-casting lightning warp?

[wild arch]

Well I doubt manastorm would trigger from placing totems

[timid geyser]

No reason it shouldn't that is counted as casting a spell

If you want to test that out do Spell + spell totem support in a lifesprig

Doesn't even need to be in the lifesprig

[wild arch]

If you're doing totems then trickster is pointless 🤔

[timid geyser]

I'm not saying do totems. Just if you wanted to see if it works

[wild arch]

I get what you mean

[timid geyser]

Imo manastorm works best for attack based build since you can get mana leech for recovery.

[wild arch]

Trickster makes lightning warp free and restore mana at the same time

That was kinda the whole reason behind it

[timid geyser]

If manastorm works how I think it works it is gonna sacrifice all your mana every single time you cast a spell

not once every 4 seconds

[wild arch]

But in that case does that mean that each individual cast adds its own 4 second buff?

[timid geyser]

It would be consider a single buff, so the strongest version of the buff would apply

[wild arch]

Well that's boring

[timid geyser]

It would be completely over powered if it did stack though

Like teaser Rathpith Globe Spectres from legion would look weak in comparison to it.

[wild arch]

Hierophant flame dash into global earthquake slams? 🤔

[timid geyser]

Alright you lost me.

[wild arch]

What's the biggest base aoe melee skill?

[timid geyser]

Reave with 8 stacks from vaal reave

You can have like 2 screen clear with enough aoe scaling

[wild arch]

Or 3 with hierophant

[patent canyon]

dont get too excited, it doesnt go beyond 1.5 screens

*melee btw

[timid geyser]

On a real build Slayer will probably end up with more AoE than hiero, but if you want to do some manastorm memes it should work fine.

[wild arch]

Slayer gets 2 flat range and up to 60% increased based on recent kills

While hierophant gets a flat 100% increased

[timid geyser]

Yeah, but you passive tree pathing allows for a lot more Melee AoE nodes to be taken

[woeful gyro]

is archer going to be meta even though the skill rework doesn't scream out single target dps?

[timid geyser]

In theory though Hiero should be able to get higher AoE.

But that requires having 5K unreserved mana which most of the time you don't (unless you are doing memes with manastorm)

[wild arch]

Assuming we're still talking about reave, slayer has 2 flat and 25% increased aoe around him

Not accounting for the aoe per endurance node

Hiero has generic 30% increased next to him

And an extra 8% on a fire wheel

[patent canyon]

but there is only so much overstacking aoe does

[wild arch]

There's another 40% inc near the witch start which is relatively close

True

But

There's no kill like overkill

[timid geyser]

Note I said "real build". If you play and level a hiero reave build up to level 90 with significantly more AoE than a slayer reave build please show me. I'll buy you a $30 support pack 🙂

[wild arch]

I missed another 3 flat range next to slayer

And I have more than enough supporter packs

[timid geyser]

Also keep in mind attack range doesn't effect AoE attack skills (besides cyclone)

[wild arch]

It doesn't?

I assumed it adds base range to all melee skills 🤔

[timid geyser]

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Range

[wild arch]

Huh

Well in that case slayer definitely has less

[violet nymph]

Cyclone got changed. It doesnt get benefit from range only aoe now

That was done for blight

[timid geyser]

Yeah, I should have specified that.

Still AoE is effect by radius.

[violet nymph]

Attack range does nothing for cyclone. Sad days ;_;

[timid geyser]

I'm okay with a melee skill not covering the whole screen without ridiculous levels of investment in inc AoE.

[violet nymph]

Welp it's a good thing wanders turbo clear with some jank ass gear and have bossing power like noone's business

[timid geyser]

If that were the case you'd see a lot more wanders.

[hardy hazel]

anyone else thinking about using stun mechanics to effectively cheeze bosses

as long as they dont have unwavering or stun immunity affix

[timid geyser]

And then god was like

[hardy hazel]

Thats kitava right?

[timid geyser]

Yeah,

[hardy hazel]

ez fight anyways

Hit dot is the only thing i hate

[timid geyser]

I was mainly memeing. though keep in mind I'm sure the new boss fights (and currently existing ones) will have much higher HP values then we are used to seeing.

So this will make stunning consistently much harder.

Unless you plan on doing some vaal ground slam memes

[hardy hazel]

Im able to stun bosses with 20 million hp with 100% chance

xd

[timid geyser]

I wouldn't feel comfortable unless you can get that up to 100 million

[hardy hazel]

Abysuss rises up

I dont use it for general mapping

Theres like 2 woke melee supports i want to get my hands on

Brutality and melee phys

Intimiddation is a good dmg increase

[coarse moon]

"and god was like"
is that mino?

[hardy hazel]

I like how you can stunlock a giant crab king but not some homeless dude who chucks rocks at you

[dusty umbra]

abysus got buffed with fortify change massively

[patent canyon]

still a suicide helm

[dusty umbra]

just fortify + abysus and u still take like 0.96 of phys dmg

[wild arch]

Or abyssus + dodge and never take any damage

[timid geyser]

That still makes it a suicide helm.

Just means it is a lot slower at it's job

[remote oar]

My tecto slam jug actually had abysses

[patent canyon]

abyssus looks good on PoB

but in most cases it kills you faster than it raises dps

[slender temple]

to the people applaudin hte cyclone nerf. there are still many skills that cover the entire screen

i guess i should be quiet about some as the one i like is not popular 😄

[dusty umbra]

cyclone in 3.7 was pretty easy 10m+ deeps with impale while covering full screen

[timid geyser]

Yeah, nothing is close to what Cyclone was in 3.7

[fading cedar]

Does the new EA benefit from Bow Damage nodes?

[deft girder]

It should. They also work nicely into ignite build.

Most bow nodes have Dot increase.

[fading cedar]

I see, I don't know how it should be built. 🤔 Standard phys bow or quill rain?
On one hand, the new scaling mechanics seem to favor a traditional setup, on the other some say it's a trap and you should go QR or +3 bow with it as before

[patent canyon]

never quill rain, its only usable on agony builds

[fading cedar]

I see

[silver kettle]

Eh Quill Rain isn't bad for EA now

A good rare is better but it's a perfectly fine budget item

[fading cedar]

Which good rare? Physical, elemental or +3?

[midnight phoenix]

Tempest is worse on its own for ea ignite but scales much better with stormfire

Uh levels please

Damage on ur bow is a jebait

[fading cedar]

Speaking of bows, is Voltaxic good now?

[patent canyon]

wonky to build around but its alright now

[fading cedar]

Lightning Arrow, Galvanic Arrow or Toxic Rain?

[midnight phoenix]

Pretty sure scourge still beats all of them for damage lul

LA is best clear as ever

[fading cedar]

Hah, yeah, didn't consider Scourge Arrow. Also, with Arrow Nova and LA, can you hit once in vertical and once with the "nova"? Or just either one?

[vast gazelle]

So from watching the metamorph video, it looks like barrage doesn't actually function as a linear attack speed penalty?

[patent canyon]

no it just how long it takes to finish firing all projectiles

with every projectile attack last longer

[vast gazelle]

Right, so it's even better than everyone was theorycrafting

Me likey

[patent canyon]

yeah it looked really really smooth

[midnight phoenix]

Isnt it identical to how ppl were theorycrafting

[vast gazelle]

No

Everyone at least that I talked to was assuming it was an as penalty equal to 1 - (1 over 1 + .05x total proj -1)

Somewhere around a 25 to 40% less as penalty depending on the skill you picked

[midnight phoenix]

Its always an enormous attack speed boost

Everyone i saw was calculating it as such

Even if they didnt realize

That penalty is for the whole attack which is n projectiles

[vast gazelle]

Hm, well, I was being conservative and treating the attacks as one chunk with slow AS for my theorycrafting

[midnight phoenix]

Like u can do that if u want, the dps u get is the same

[vast gazelle]

Ugh I'm tempted to ask on Reddit somewhere for a clarification

[midnight phoenix]

What do u wanna know exactly

Ur math above was correct for the attack speed penalty of 1 entire barrage compared to 1 nonbarrage attack

But 1 barrage is n projectiles and 1 nonbarrage attack is 1 projectile

[vast gazelle]

Do I still attack at an unmodified attack speed, do I have the same AS but do I have to do attack time math (how do I find my base attack time?) Or is it a bulk penalty equivalent to my formula's less AS

[midnight phoenix]

The last one

[violet nymph]

YOU CAN SUMMON HIMMMMMM

[midnight phoenix]

It is in effect a massive attack speed bonus stapled to a smaller attack speed penalty

[vast gazelle]

Shrug, if it is as I thought it's no skin off my back

Just hoping it's more generous

[unborn solstice]

btw, do you think it might actually be worth to do metamorph stuff while leveling?

because the currency you get acts as pseudo fossils affecting weighting, even if the quality is only 5% it should still be valuable to crafters right?

[violet nymph]

to be honest i'm definitely gonna be doing metamorph during acts

easy early currency

[midnight phoenix]

However much money its worth its still gonna be way less than being the first guy in maps selling reds

Same as every league

[native sonnet]

with boss buff and the metamorph being a (most likely ) op boss that takes quite some time to kill, probably skip

[violet nymph]

i play poe for fun, i don't tend to be very fast

[midnight phoenix]

If u can get meaningful amounts of this stuff premaps its still gonna be better to turbo farm it in blood aqueducts

[violet nymph]

6-8 hrs to maps from league start

cause i wanna try new stuff

[unborn solstice]

yeah but if youre not the first guy anyway because not everyone memorizedthe entire layout of everything and runs at 110% efficiency with an uber maxed clearspeed build

or not everyone no lifes the shit at the start, choose whichever you want

then you might as well pick up some pseudo currency

[midnight phoenix]

So like

If ur in maps by say

Hour 7 or so

Which u rly do not have to minmax whatsoever to do

[violet nymph]

i took 3 days off for 3.9 but i really don't care about being super fast

[unborn solstice]

i could see myself barely doing that but its still just low maps, im crafting insane builds because i suck at actually playing

[midnight phoenix]

U can easily farm up multiple ex on day 1

[violet nymph]

my build isn't gonna be super fast anyway

[midnight phoenix]

Even at the worst possible case where ur slow af

[violet nymph]

i hate starting with a cheese skill then switching to my main build at maps

[midnight phoenix]

And u cant get to maps before the screaming hordes

[violet nymph]

i'm gonna be playing ice shot from act 1

i could play toxic rain

[midnight phoenix]

And lets suppose u get metamorph stuff in decent amounts premaps and its good

[violet nymph]

but that's too easy

[midnight phoenix]

Even if all of this is true, the best strat would still be to sit in BA

Whenever u get to a9

[unborn solstice]

yeahh maybe, but what do you mean multiple ex?

[midnight phoenix]

And farm up ur mats there because the layout and density are so much better

[unborn solstice]

elaborate where that comes form

[midnight phoenix]

U get to reds and sell them

[unborn solstice]

because ive been fast occasionally and those 30% ms boots with 40 life never sold for a lot for me

[violet nymph]

reds day 1

[midnight phoenix]

U dont sell items unless u want to

[violet nymph]

i generally try to beat the entire atlas in about a week

[unborn solstice]

that seems to be a real stretch

[midnight phoenix]

Yellow maps on day 1 are several c

Ex are 20c

[unborn solstice]

i mean mostly 40 tbh

[midnight phoenix]

Its really not that hard but u have to be efficient

[unborn solstice]

you say that but a lot of that comes from your build doesnt it

[midnight phoenix]

Buy ur enlightens and level them etc

Well like

Ur leveling build is pretty similar regardless

So time to maps is prolly 4 hours

And then u switch to ur proper build and if its any good as a league starter u will be fine

[unborn solstice]

thats getting less and less

4 hours really

[dusty umbra]

@midnight phoenix day 1 maybe ; day2 ex is like 40ish

[unborn solstice]

no way for me

[midnight phoenix]

Ye by day 2 its 40

So u need to be higher

Also yellows are 1c by day 2

So u need to be higher than that

[violet nymph]

unless ice shot is REALLY fucking good there's no way i'm getting exalts day 1

[unborn solstice]

4 hours isnt possible for most players without heavy investment

[midnight phoenix]

If u build an early league bosskiller u can instead do that

[unborn solstice]

i mean i was with you when you said 7 hours

[violet nymph]

i'm playing ice shot.

[midnight phoenix]

7 is like

[unborn solstice]

boss killer?like who

[midnight phoenix]

Normal

[unborn solstice]

farm atziri for flasks?

getting fragments is a real pain though

eats so much time

[violet nymph]

i mean

vaal side areas in maps now

lol

[midnight phoenix]

So i havent done this personally i usually sit in maps

But the guys i talk to pick a boss

They pick a build to target farm that boss

Usually one u can buy frags for

[unborn solstice]

what do you mean by boss?

[midnight phoenix]

And hammer it for like 5 days

[unborn solstice]

so either atziri or uber atziri?

[midnight phoenix]

From days 2 to 6 give or take

Uber or shaper

[unborn solstice]

shapers gonna be a problem

[midnight phoenix]

Reg atziri the drops arent $$ enough

[unborn solstice]

and profit margins were really terrible

[midnight phoenix]

Theyre good very early

[unborn solstice]

name me 1 good item from uber atziri

and the gloves are good but not compared to how rare they are

probablythe map drops lol

and div cards

[midnight phoenix]

Disfavour is several ex early

[unborn solstice]

lets hope it is

[midnight phoenix]

Cos ppl dont have multimod

[unborn solstice]

theres no real reason to use disfavour for cyclone anymore after all

[midnight phoenix]

And next league multimod is bad anyway

[unborn solstice]

i mean i could jump into uber atziri at level 75 or something

[violet nymph]

disfavor is definitely better this league than the past like

3 leagues

lol

[unborn solstice]

but thats a day 2 thing id say.

why would it be?

what you gonna play with it?

[violet nymph]

no phys/gem hybrid mods

[unborn solstice]

yeah what skill you gonna use?

[violet nymph]

i mean cyclone probably

[unborn solstice]

too slow

doesnt benefit from the extra range

[violet nymph]

especially if you're doing metamorphs a bunch

[unborn solstice]

foils facebreaker beat it so easily

claws have more sustain

[midnight phoenix]

If u are comfortable doing ua on day 2 then that works

[unborn solstice]

i prolly can yeah

i mean you know my build

flameblast me bitch i dont care

[midnight phoenix]

Just be sure to level 6 enlightens

[unborn solstice]

how much are uber sets day 2?

i dont expect to hit an axe early thats why

[violet nymph]

a lot, i'd imagine

[unborn solstice]

is that really not gonna be an issue?

just physically getting the sets

[midnight phoenix]

Its volume more than cost i understand

[unborn solstice]

to actually run

[midnight phoenix]

And yes its a bit annoying

[unborn solstice]

so i have to hire a div card slave for it

[violet nymph]

to be honest, if you want a ton of money early, get exalts and exalt cards and everything related to exalts as fast as possible

[unborn solstice]

thats not really sound advice

[violet nymph]

i mean

[unborn solstice]

most items actually get more expensive along with ex

also

if i just craft things i can double my investment within an hour

over and over and over again

[violet nymph]

i'll probably alt-regal some arc jewels

[unborn solstice]

my ex turned into 10 after a day and youre still sitting on yours for 2 weeks

[violet nymph]

cause arc is 100% going meta again

feels incursion man

[unborn solstice]

so how much do you think a sets gonna cost(in ex) early in the league?

because my build can do it

even if ggg buffs her

i might only be lvl 75 but i can kick their asses anyway

[violet nymph]

my build will probably act similarly

and if i don't have the damage i know i won't be dying anyway

as long as there isn't too much dot shit

i should be fine

[unborn solstice]

if i get to around lvl 80 ill have 10m dps and the ability to facetank her flameblast

at lower levels dps is just not quite 10m but i can still facetank her flameblast

[violet nymph]

10m lol

what build is this

[unborn solstice]

cyclone

[violet nymph]

that's vague these days

[unborn solstice]

facebreaker cyclone

[violet nymph]

i wrote a facebreaker cyclone champion

[unborn solstice]

the most metal thing that has ever graced path of exile

[violet nymph]

i don't know where you're getting 10m from

[unborn solstice]

impale mostly

and going crit

[violet nymph]

cause mine gets an easy 1m with little investment

also going crit

[unborn solstice]

hm

update your pob and use fork

master of metal probably wasnt working

[violet nymph]

yes, it does

[unborn solstice]

i mean i did assume that i do my chores like having ulab(wont have, but would if i didnt nolife atziri) and triggering adrenaline, placing totems

stuff like that

[violet nymph]

with everything minrolled i have about 700k

which doesn't take into account armour changes

[unborn solstice]

closer to 2m here id say

i tried that but that included not using conc effect etc

[violet nymph]

granted, it's 700k with this gear

all minrolled

[unborn solstice]

you got curses and shit?

power charges from ass mark

all that jazz

because i mean on uatziri youre actually gonna have those lol

abyssus is lacking in your build

also check the toggles such as fortify taunted impaled impale stacks

[violet nymph]

i'm not using abyssus

i'm not using taunt shit

[unborn solstice]

well your loss

[violet nymph]

accuracy is too easy

[unborn solstice]

uh wait what are you using then?

[vast gazelle]

Oof

[unborn solstice]

cyclone gives stun immunity you know

its still 20% damage taken and frees investment

[violet nymph]

1000 flat armour/evasion isn't small, you know, combined with the 1000 flat armour on master of metal

and attack speed/attack damage are nice

[unborn solstice]

thats true

its not terrible

i might even consider it

[violet nymph]

oh

[unborn solstice]

its still a big dmg loss

[violet nymph]

i also don't have vaal ancestral warchief selected lol

cause it's not gonna be out most of the time

[unborn solstice]

yeah i know my low edn is around 2m

i know that for a fact

so i basically just tried to push number sin case i needed them

also

totems taunt for me

so theyre a mitigation layer

[violet nymph]

i'm not starting with the fb thing anyway

clear is too bad

[unborn solstice]

this is why i hate the speedclear meta

its so restrictive

[violet nymph]

you can't get nearly enough area on fb cyclone to clear comfortably even with a lot of investment

so i'm starting with raider ice shot/ice shot ballista x5

which is also like 1m dps with little investment

way less deaths

and way better clear

well

it has a little investment

basically let's just hope the nerf to hyrri's ire makes it cheaper

should be good for fighting bosses

that movement speed makes me laugh

i don't think i've played a build with that much before

[unborn solstice]

its any cyclone

cyclone takes 11 range instead of weapon range as base

so all weapons perform more or less the same

also, 30c a set is that roughly accurate?

early on

[violet nymph]

no idea

i've done uber atziri like

once

ever

[unborn solstice]

and disfavour 60c/acuity 300

https://poe-antiquary.xyz/Blight/Fragment/Mortal Hope/35

[fluid widget]

ANyone know how to model the attack time modifier for barrage support in PoB

[vapid agate]

Regarding tradable fragments of metamorph with other players, what I'm getting at here is that you have to merge the bosses together first, and then kill the merged bosses at a chance to get the unique body part which is tradable?

[slender temple]

did they say it would be tradeable?

thats kind of neat.. theres a sub market right there

if your really good at killing some annoying boss

like hte core boss and it has some special bonus

$$$$

[vapid agate]

the uniques will be tradable, they mentioned it

but it would be hard af to gather hard boss frags... have to combine with 4 or 5 other pieces and hope u get the one u want

[slender temple]

unique watchstones. but not the boss parts?

[vapid agate]

if you watched to the end of the video it shows it dropping sth like the lion king's body which was a unique

that will be a tradable part I believe

[deft girder]

inb4 currency tab for our backpack.

I find them causing tetris problem with other stuff.

[slender temple]

i dont htink they will expand it

unless they do it with poe2

[limpid wigeon]

you can tell they had metamorph finished literally last minute

if its even finished

literally no previews but the trailer until the day before launch

no time to make the loot magnet for the body parts now

[vast gazelle]

i think after a while i might actually try to chain blighted maps

unless they get 120% gutted

just get some woke gems and fork plus on my wander

obliterate everything offscreen wanders are wont to do

[spice cipher]

@limpid wigeon I don’t think so, pretty sure they have been working on it for awhile but I might be wrong. I know the atlas change has been worked on for a while.

[limpid wigeon]

metamorph and conquerers of the atlas arent the same thing

conquerers is the patch, it changes the game for everyone including standard, metamorph is the league

i mean i dont see any other reason why they wouldn't have shown footage of it before now

[spice cipher]

I know, I said that

I think it’ll be fine

[limpid wigeon]

for reference ziggy posted a big preview video of blight mechanics on the 20th, and the league launched on the 6th next month

thats how late we're getting this

[spice cipher]

Idk they haven’t released a ton of previews for either

Who knows, as long as the bosses are actually hard and you can actually ‘build your own’ I’ll be happy

Extra loot too

[hollow wharf]

unused organs be carried to next map? or just gone?

[cobalt falcon]

I think its gone
Since the capacity is not large

But not sure

[spice cipher]

Dunno, good question

Not much revealed, maybe they want us to figure it out

There was some handholding between legion and blight

[hollow wharf]

I saw a used unique organ dropped as item

[cobalt falcon]

What the mini tornado shooting arrow when boss morph?

Boss skill?

[spice cipher]

That’s I think to simulate the crab king wave wall

Maybe

[cobalt falcon]

I see

[spice cipher]

But it could be a combo of different skills?

Maybe different combo makes new monster skills?

[cobalt falcon]

If morph can combine skill its cool

We can target farming

That icon in sample

Thats good

If can take to another map, we forced to use sample since their slot only 6

[hollow wharf]

will the unused organs occupy a backpack slot?

[native sonnet]

only the unique 1 u get from killing a "hard enough" metamorph monster

[cobalt falcon]

I see

[hollow wharf]

+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone1.dds (14148)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone10.dds (16075)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone2.dds (16452)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone3.dds (14682)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone4.dds (15884)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone5.dds (15175)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone6.dds (15902)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone7.dds (15645)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone8.dds (14143)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/IvoryWatchstone9.dds (15717)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/WatchstoneBlue.dds (15943)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/WatchstoneGreen.dds (15039)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/WatchstoneIridescent.dds (16600)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/WatchstoneRed.dds (15237)
+ /Art/2DItems/Currency/Strongholds/WatchstoneYellow.dds (15034)

[silver kettle]

iridescent??

we're assuming that the ivory watchstones are the unique ones right

I guess iridescent might be a super special unique one?

[next epoch]

@hollow wharf my goodness, you read fast 🙂

[hollow wharf]

+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/ChasingADream.dds (10153)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/Metamorph.dds (10199)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/PickingUpThePieces.dds (10200)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/TheAwakenerOfWorlds.dds (10102)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/TheCrusader.dds (10121)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/TheElderslayers.dds (10180)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/TheHunter.dds (9985)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/TheRedeemer.dds (10091)
+ /Art/2DArt/QuestIcons/TheWarlord.dds (10136)

[coarse moon]

yea ivory ones are def some sort of special one

they have a very different categorizer in the filter data as well

[silver kettle]

yeah

[coarse moon]

The Elderslayers

who what now

[silver kettle]

the conquerors presumably

since they defeated the elder in this timeline

[coarse moon]

oh right, might be referring to all the conquerors as a unit

[silver kettle]

yup

[hollow wharf]

+ /Art/2DItems/QuestItems/ReliquaryVaultKey.dds (7780)

+ /Art/2DItems/Jewels/ConnectedJewel.dds (12244)

[next epoch]

the numbers are file sizes if anyone's curious 🙂

[deft girder]

They datamine the new prefix suffix yet?

[silver kettle]

can't yet

files for that are removed from the torrent

[lyric pine]

12 mb .dds for connected jewel? Or is it in bytes

[next epoch]

bytes

[lyric pine]

gotcha

[deft girder]

Damn.

[hollow wharf]

an inventory icon

[slender temple]

[hollow wharf]

ConnectedJewel

UberElderComplete

[slender temple]

is there one for regular elder

[hollow wharf]

WatchstoneIridescent

IvoryWatchstone10

EyeOfDesire

[silver kettle]

🍿

[coarse moon]

🍿

[hollow wharf]

Awakened's Orb

[lyric pine]

what I really wanna know is if we can get that "EyeOfDesire" as helmet MTX

[slender temple]

Wil there be white and yellow elder frags ?

Im a bit worried

[lyric pine]

I would assume that shaper/uber elder would be always fixed as t16, but now IDK.

[slender temple]

That means elder will be much harder to get then ?

That sucks

[lyric pine]

well yeah, there's an entirely new endgame. They've already said access to shaper/elder is gonna be way more limited now afaik.

[hollow wharf]

ElderComplete

[violet nymph]

Our endgame is now conquerors not shaper/elder

[leaden cypress]

im leaning towards onslaught ignite raider - whatcha guys think

[violet nymph]

I'm not bothering with bows, I'm doing poison wander

[leaden cypress]

just burning arrow all the things, should keep onslaught up forever

[timid geyser]

The Black Cane (Sceptre)

Mirage Blade (1H Sword)

[lyric pine]

ok if Mirage Blade is not the best unique sword in the game I'm gonna be pissed

that thing looks amazing

[timid geyser]

Book of Imnas (shield)

[violet nymph]

this shit looks cool

[timid geyser]

Grip of Unmaking (gloves)

[hot gyro]

uhh

[violet nymph]

Awakener gloves. Bet

@timid geyser

[slender temple]

so theres two kinds of elder orbs thats good right

question is willi we get guardians in white maps

[violet nymph]

There are different levels of each it seems

[slender temple]

are white/yellow/red maps even a concept in 3.9 ?

[eager terrace]

yeah

the maps still have a tier which goes up when you socket watchstones in that region

[violet nymph]

^

[timid geyser]

Fury Valve? (Amulet)

Starlight Mark (Amulet)

Mothers Embrace (Belt)

Warriors Legacy (ring)

That should be all of the new unique items

[deft girder]

Hope for grip of unmaking being a fun dot glove.

[violet nymph]

would awakened curse on hit support allow you to have two curses unconditionally or just on the skill its supporting?

Unknown atm

Either way it's pretty good

[languid path]

Supported Skills Can Apply An Additional Curse

so only the skills linked to it

[wanton ore]

I hope this isn't unrelated, but do we actually know what the map tiers are for this league, like the past few leagues before?

I can't seem to find it on the compiled info thread on reddit

[pine forge]

What is the base range of Shrapnel Shot? I cant find it anywhere on the wiki

[violet nymph]

@wanton ore its cuz the change in how the atlas works now

@pine forge galvanic arrow (new shrapnel shot) is 40

[wanton ore]

@violet nymph I get the whole atlas system is changing, but just for further clarification, there is no post like this for 3.9 correct?
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cx82nl/heres_a_preview_of_the_atlas_of_worlds_in_path_of/eyjfvb8/?context=3&utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=pathofexile&utm_content=t3_ct8a43

[wind badger]

no

[swift pagoda]

no they want us to find out ourselves

[wanton ore]

ok ty for the answer, I thought I was missing the obvious lol

[violet nymph]

@wanton ore no. Cuz the system is changing in ways that make that not that important. We know what maps are in what quadrant. But map tiers arent specific to a map as you upgrade maps tiers now

[pine forge]

@violet nymph 40 range für galvanic cone? that seems like a lot, isnt it?

[violet nymph]

@pine forge that's what they said.

[real temple]

anyone know how to scale damage on ballistas yet? can't tell if i should support the attack skill or the ballista gem

[pine forge]

it's just like totems. Everything that applied to the old range attack totem or siege ballista will still work the same https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Siege_Ballista

[real temple]

thank you, that does make sense. that means that all plain "totem" skills still add to the damage?

[barren laurel]

I am looking for a starter but I am not sure what I am supposed to play,
looking for a budget friendly build which will work for me in regards to farming currency early on.

[pine forge]

you mean totem passives? if it only says totem damage then it will work for both spells and attacks

[agile pawn]

Auto pickup parts or RIOT

[hot gyro]

"explosion deals 50% of Base Damage" how to simulate it

[wild arch]

Honestly I don't think there's any reliable way to simulate it

The new explosive arrow is pretty damn complicated

Hence the hundreds of questions about it on reddit

[hot gyro]

On the video it looks dam awesome xD with balista support and burning arrow for the ingite buff

BA+greater volley and increased chance to ingite

[dusty cove]

hmm split arrow doomfletch looks promishing

[wild arch]

Uhhhhh

I just realized how much they buffed bleed

[dusty cove]

yea, puncture might be fun also

[wild arch]

The phys 'penetration' applies to all physical damage including bleed

But bleed isn't affected by armour

You can basically ignore the phys resist and endurance charge mods on maps

Waaait no

I just saw some hit exclusive stuff

Does it all apply to just hits?

Nevermind, it's all just for hits...

[odd steeple]

Has anyone got the GGPK file and datamined the new gem data from it?

Can you tell us what the ignite multiplier cap is in practice? They said they would implement one but never updated the patch notes

(for Explosive Arrow)

[hollow wharf]

@odd steeple The preload never has the Data directory, which means none of the .dat files which holds all the logical game data, it's just a duckton of assets.

[odd steeple]

oh really? I thought gem data strings was one of the thing you could mine from it

thanks for the heads up

[rose pasture]

So no one decoded meta yet?

Not enough info?

[solid thunder]

Anyone made shrapnel ballista build in pob? do seems only a few

[patent canyon]

look for someone using it for bosses not as main skill

it looks ass to clear with

[solid thunder]

too bad wanted to try the new gem

[steel pelican]

It is does look like it will be ass to clear with honestly. You would have to use another skill to clear with or just swap totems to the ballista support and a clear skill

[daring hearth]

Will beastiary organs be Uber dangerous?

[patent canyon]

yesnt

[pastel bone]

Does Arc mines have a good Single target for metamorph and conquerors?

[limpid wigeon]

not really, its decent because its mines and mines anything are pretty decent single target

but it doesnt compete with the kings, not even close

[pastel bone]

Im stuck between Cobra lash assasin, cold dot OCC, and arc mines. for SSF

Cobra lash makes me worry cause its an attack

[limpid wigeon]

definitely not lash

[pastel bone]

And the only time i played it was in trade and it kinda rolled hard.

Why not lash?

[limpid wigeon]

assassin poisons, in my personal opinion, rely super heavily on getting binos to feel good

cant rely on that in ssf

[pastel bone]

Lol i know that was another worry

[limpid wigeon]

also cobra lash is kinda a high investment skill, not a great deal of base scaling

[pastel bone]

I did some mapping without binos and it was... not terrible but obv binos made mapping easy

i just know vic proj cobra lash melted masterminds and other bosses for me.

and all i had was a 6L -15 mana chest and 2 binos

[limpid wigeon]

pathfinder is definitely the more ssf friendly poison ascendancy

but i still wouldnt leaguestart on it

i mean

[pastel bone]

well i think if thats the case ill prob go Cold OCC.

[limpid wigeon]

unless you really like it

[pastel bone]

I like all those builds

[limpid wigeon]

it just wont be very fast most likely

[pastel bone]

Well never really did arc mines too much. I think i got it to like 85 then swapped cause it was just... mines.

Well SSF so fast isnt an issue i just want good Boss Deeps

Which i played vortex OCC before. in like 3.6 or whenever they changed occ to have cold dot. and it was fun af.

[limpid wigeon]

mmm i dont really know poison builds well enough, i played assassin pestilent strike league start blight but i just insta traded up to wasps nests and did shaper, then moved to another build

definitely wouldnt have done it in ssf

[patent canyon]

poison is iffy on ssf

[pastel bone]

i see a lot of streamers recommend it but they obv play a fuck ton that i do not play. cold OCC i mean.

[patent canyon]

cold dot also unless you go life version

[limpid wigeon]

cold occ got pretty mega buffed with the nova ring

not reliable to get in ssf tho

[pastel bone]

literally none of the builds use the nova ring.

the nova ring is not good for vortex.

[limpid wigeon]

wdym

it lets you be ranged

huge QoL

[patent canyon]

not really

[violet nymph]

looking to auracuck this league. what are recommendations as this is new territory for me. cbf with bow builds

[pastel bone]

Ive seen like 3 different Vortex builds and none of them talk about using the ring.

[patent canyon]

because ring is new

[limpid wigeon]

bizzare i would have thought it would be super nice

[pastel bone]

most of them actually says its actively bad.

[patent canyon]

vortex isnt the build that benefits from range that much

you are super tanky and feel ok close range

[pastel bone]

OCc is about curses with blasphemy and so if youre doing it off screen then you dont get to curse them.

[limpid wigeon]

🤷

fair enough

[pastel bone]

Ive heard shock nova is the only one that will use it prob. because ice nova gets free casts on FB.

Yeah im not worried about the build to much more just

SSF

Ive never done SSF Before so worried about just getting stuck in a bad build.

[limpid wigeon]

i could see discharge maybe using it? but actually i guess it cant give up the ring slot really can it

[pastel bone]

Oh that one too.

[limpid wigeon]

i like ssf a lot but its far slower and you can get hugely roadblocked on certain builds

[pastel bone]

Only nova skills i know are ice nova and vortex neither will be using it most likely

[limpid wigeon]

now more than ever since multimodding is dead

spells are very safe for ssf

most of their dmg is contained within the gem itself

attacks and skills that require a lot of links to be smooth though

[pastel bone]

right which is what i want to avoid. so arc mines or Vortex. but im scared about getting stuck on bosses due to low life etc.

[limpid wigeon]

not so good

though i play attacks anyway

because i dont like spells

i cant imagine an occultist having trouble with bossing

dont they have good boss dps

[pastel bone]

yeah cause of curses

but hlaf the builds are just trees and idk if ill need Enlighten set ups or how they plan on putting curses down.

Sec let me check Steelmages occ again

[limpid wigeon]

i mean you can just selfcast curses if you need to

they actually last for ages

[pastel bone]

oh fucka nd right they want to use the templar jewels

is there any good way to farm the kilova legion jewel?

[limpid wigeon]

no

definitely not

[pastel bone]

lol fuck i dont think there is any chance of me getting LL in SSF.

Gotta get a presence of cayula.

[limpid wigeon]

yeah probably not

[pastel bone]

well.. i guess i normally sell frags.. idk maybe

[limpid wigeon]

presence isnt even half the issue

[pastel bone]

well shavs can be chanced and div card farmed

[limpid wigeon]

thats really rough to rely on for a core build item

[pastel bone]

man fucking multi mod change. FBM

[limpid wigeon]

like maybe as a secondary ssf build but no way as a starter

[pastel bone]

yeah... i do see a guide that shows you how to get 5.5k ES by blood aqueducts in SSF.

basically he says just to roll ES bases with alts to get ES rolls.

and res of course.

[limpid wigeon]

incredible advice

if only alts rained from the sky

[pastel bone]

says you can do it in like... 300 alts

and ADV you to pick up every rare that drops with your loot filter off to sell for alts.

[limpid wigeon]

i sorta doubt that honestly

300 alts seems low for 5.5k es

what are you even looking at

[pastel bone]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2661120?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[limpid wigeon]

ah unfortunately down for maint

dont refresh that page

[pastel bone]

Step 1. Go to Blood Aqueducts.

Step 2. Remove your loot filter completely. No, not the default filter - NO filter. Trust me, I'm a doctor.

Step 3. Clear Aqueducts. You will be picking up the following:

    - Rares, currency, and div cards. ID all of the rares and sell for Alterations, as this is your main currency used to craft your starting gear.

    - Energy Shield items with a level requirement of lvl 55 or higher. This is why we take off the filter - so the white items show up.

    - A Chain Belt with 17+ ES implicit and a Dex, Str, or Dex/Str Amulet. Don't worry about rings for now.

Once you have a complete set of items sans-rings, go to your hideout. Make your white items blue, and begin rolling them with Alterations. You're looking for rolls for the following mods:

    Prefixes: Tier 4 or better Flat Energy Shield or Increased % Energy Shield

    Suffixes: Tier 3 or better of any non-Chaos resistance.

If you only roll one of these, Augment for the other. For your Wand, roll for Spell Damage or Cold Damage Over Time for a Prefix and % Increased Cold Damage for a Suffix. For your boots, you could skip an ES roll and try to get 25% or higher Movement Speed.

Once this is complete, equip the items and check your resistances. Buy or farm Aqueducts for Rings to shore up the needed resists.

Check the PoB for a set of blue budget items that can easily get you into maps. As you begin to accumulate currency, I recommend rolling for higher damage on a Wand and/or Shield, as higher damage will help both your clear and survivability.

As you begin mapping, you should have 5500+ Energy Shield, capped resists, and then as much damage as possible.

lel thats a bit more than i thought but since the page is down.

this is obv just to get into mapping a CI so you can then upgrade them with rare drops etc.

[limpid wigeon]

i mean theoretically it could work but i could never muster the patience to farm blood aqueducts for 300+ alts

[pastel bone]

and i guess be more efficient so you aren't like spending currency on life upgrades etc

well dont 1 rare gives like 11 alt shards?

and then obv Alts will drop too.

[limpid wigeon]

ya so you're looking at 2 rares per alt

you're picking up and vendoring at least 500 items

in the same tileset

[pastel bone]

eh. Idk i mean at least its a fallback plan.

[limpid wigeon]

i guess

[coarse moon]

this looks way worse than just playing as life, and then cnoverting later into real gear

[limpid wigeon]

i dont go into ssf with this kind of gameplan

i just smash my face against the content until i get past it

truly a sc herol

[pastel bone]

never playes SSF so i want a back up plan

and... arc mines kinda... idk i played arc mines before the nerf and wasn't impressed

id be more interested in arc totems

[hollow wharf]

https://poedb.tw/us/achi.php?c=Metamorph
Metamorph Achievements

[pastel bone]

but Arc totems aren't godly boss killers either

but would be better than arc mines prob.

[limpid wigeon]

endgame grinds looks easy this league

or is that just me

[pastel bone]

anyways i need to go get chores done before leageu start thanks for the talk boys

[limpid wigeon]

fairo

[warm egret]

How will the buff to soulrend actually calculate out?

For sake of easy math, currently dot is .4 seconds, if for instance the Dot did 100k 'per second'

Does that mean 3.8 the dot did 40k damage and with 3.9 it will 60k = 50% more damage?

[limpid wigeon]

idk

website is down so i cant check the patch notes

did they just increase the duration by 0.2 with no other text

[warm egret]

patchnotes just said duration of dot is now .6 seconds at all levels (was .4 seconds)

[patent canyon]

if you dont recast then yeah its technically 50% more

[pastel bone]

Tarkecat has an explanation of soulrend buff on his build video

[warm egret]

Thanks, will look it up

[native sonnet]

@hollow wharf influenced mods list where? ❤️

[hollow wharf]

not yet, mabye 1 hour later

[native sonnet]

sweet

[limpid wigeon]

think ill prob peace out of this chat when those are mined

dont wanna spoil myself

[atomic heart]

wait you need to make a map device

you dont get one right away

lmao

[untold dragon]

If we pick up enough braines, eyes, lungs, etc for 2 full sets, can we fight 2 metamorph bosses in one zone?

[patent canyon]

didnt look like so, canister broke on first boss

maybe you can call gain for 2nd fight

[untold dragon]

haha nice

grimro's video suggests we can do a 2nd one, but I haven't seen anything that confirms it

[patent canyon]

only way to confirm is to play, not enough info otherwise

[quiet geyser]

we will know soon

[solid thunder]

600 can be done and good thing leagion is at zana as map mod

[wild arch]

Soooooo, they want you to kill the new final boss 75 times?

[strong dove]

wait we can see the new challenges already?

[hollow wharf]

poedb updated

[native sonnet]

with mods? 😄

[hollow wharf]

not yet, working on monsters, maybe later

[strong dove]

so this one looks new? something like zana shattered the map device and we have to repair it?

[native sonnet]

so we're the 1 who let them back? hmmmm

[pastel bone]

Do we know how to get the new exalts?

Like are they just rando drop?

[wild arch]

I'm guessing they're random drops in the corresponding conqueror's sector

I really hope the black and gold set is the cheapest one

Cause it looks the plainest

[cobalt heart]

the black and gold set is the worst

i hope its not the cheapest cuz i want something good for my $60

[solid thunder]

here are the challenges https://poedb.tw/us/achi.php?c=Metamorph if anyone needs

[foggy bone]

That one on the far left is neat.

[arctic heron]

1 hour away and still no build. :))

[patent canyon]

just take damage

when you die take 1 life node

by the end of level 90 you will have a build

[solid thunder]

you can try Explosive Arrow Ballista build shared from someone here https://pastebin.com/tXAfqLhN

[hollow wharf]

@native sonnet https://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?cn=Ring

[native sonnet]

thx ❤️

[limpid wigeon]

Can lioneyes glare be chanced?

[patent canyon]

yeah

[vast gazelle]

holy shit

some of these are busted

my ll build just came

[snow bridge]

bro metamorph in 4 minutes but exam in 4 hours

[vast gazelle]

impale on hit on gloves wut

and %dex

[reef thorn]

i feel you m8 im haveing 4 exams next week

[storm veldt]

Wooo

[velvet palm]

it's only 3 minutes late :^)

[tribal owl]

+2 min charges on shields. these affixes are nutty

[gloomy dune]

no league mechanics in our private league?! klown problem?

[junior geyser]

hmm

I guess the eye is what made the rattling

[sleek heart]

From what i've gather theres common/magics sample and one unique from the unique monster in the area

"Cannibal's Liver"

The irony

[junior geyser]

I got the lungs from a skeleton

[sleek heart]

[junior geyser]

HMM

[sleek heart]

i got one on the beach

But i didnt see anything unusual on the samples inventory

[vast bay]

Anyone else crashing the moment you get a full metamorph set?

[sand bone]

So what exactly do the number of slots mean? Like I have 1 slot for Lungs on my current zone

[sleek heart]

you need a full set to make a metamorph

In theory each map with league encounter has enough drops to make one

in theory

Me and some others were missing one sample

[rocky bridge]

what exactly is unidentified monster part

er

unnamed

nvm figured it out

im prettu sure it a bugged/placeholder

bc i had one drop and then tane spawned in but i was missing a heart

[elder night]

i don't like that we can't see which parts are missing :/

[tidal socket]

just make a mental note of what you picked up, or the vial button flashes when you have a complete set

[runic zephyr]

am i seeing it right that the body parts you pick up are saved per map?

like i killed act 1 mervil and now in act 2 i dont see her body part anymore

[fast quarry]

It's normal

The body parts are only usable in the map you picked them up

[runic zephyr]

ooh, good to kno

[autumn summit]

Do u need to use the parts for Tane before u leave the map? Or do they carry over

[round plaza]

be careful, there is something that spawns alot of these guys that you cannot deal any dmg too

[azure crescent]

great league. full cleared the map btw.

I should stop wasting time trying to complete metamorphs

[fast quarry]

Personally, I just clear the map as usual and at the end, if I don't have all parts for metamorph, I just move on

[errant drift]

third map in a row
Fun

[fast quarry]

Lol

[shadow elm]

i hate picking up so much shit

[next epoch]

Is it intentional that you can visit Tāne's lab and have him talk about "the destruction of Oriath" during Act 1? Seems a little early for that

[fast quarry]

He can see future

[modern nimbus]

does anyone know why volley supp doesnt work with either shattering or lancing steel?

[stark rivet]

Why is it that sometimes you dont get a part? That seems ridiculous

[radiant portal]

Any value in league mechanic before maps?

[stark rivet]

??

[slender temple]

Idk up to you some people use quarry or blood aquaducts

Im gonna just zerg my way into maps and push

[stark rivet]

I had one that dropped a unique on death. So early on I guess it could help with items...

[slender temple]

Yeah I will try around level thirtyish maybe when I have more of my skillgems for my build

[stark rivet]

I'm still confused on how it doesn't drop some organs... WHY GAME? WHY?

[shadow elm]

i dont think the unnamed organs count

pretty sure its just bugged

[stark rivet]

ohhhh

sad 😦

[lethal quarry]

If u pick uo organs in area A and then go to B, can i get the remaining organs if i return to area A and get the rest? Or does it immediately reset?

[stark rivet]

no. it's per instance

If instance is still laoded you can collect more once returning but monsters don't respawn with more organs or anything

[lethal quarry]

👍

[stark rivet]

what do you set filters for so you can see metamorph itemss??

BaseType or Class??

[livid hare]

should I be hoarding higher quality body parts?

I have an extra currency part, and idk if I should just use it now or not

nvm, the parts go away when you go to a new area, good to know...

[tired silo]

yeah that seems just counter intuitive af

also being able to crash your game with metamorph

[livid hare]

I love this league so far

[tired silo]

dont worry flying eye dropped me a liver

[crimson aspen]

Is it just me or is it possible for monsters to not drop all the parts in a zone.

[shadow elm]

its possible

definite bug

unnamed monster component seems to not be adding anything

[crimson aspen]

It's like I have a drop a unique and skill gems but since I don't have a heart I cant summon it

[heavy bolt]

anyone else crashing on act 4? i cant progress. game keeps getting an exception

[tired silo]

kaoms dream?

[tender flint]

I don't know if it's just me but if I lose sight of the metamorph bosses and try to walk back toward it, I crash instantly.

[hushed ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614207034442776587/655234022456426536/unknown.png
This is my experience. I don't have lungs but there are 0 enemies remaining

Which is annoying when I've collected everything else

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614207034442776587/655235304290254888/Annotation_2019-12-14_023021.png

[violet nymph]

We organ harvesting now boys

[rain terrace]

Does anyone know the significance of the cooldown on your metamorph inventory slots ("requires some time before it can be used again", etc.)?

Doesn't seem very useful since only 1 metamorph per zone anyway

[next epoch]

@rain terrace those refer to the skills on the metamorph monster, I think

[rain terrace]

HAHAHA ok thanks, spent too much time thinking about this

[next epoch]

@violet nymph https://youtu.be/R7AjlT406_s?t=52

[violet nymph]

Where do you find this shit

[next epoch]

@violet nymph It's kind of a cult classic. And it seemed apropos

[violet nymph]

It is. It's pretty great. I've just never heard of it lol

[soft ibex]

Are the 'unnamed monster part's bugged? I seem to be missing monster parts whenever they show up

[shadow elm]

thats what im thinking too

[pliant yew]

You should summon npc to see what reward parts give u, right? Isnt there any option to see rewards?

[harsh schooner]

Is nightblade worth using on cobra lash

[next epoch]

👀

[round wolf]

I prefer Wandering Eye's Lung

[cunning nest]

what do we do if were missing parts? just move on?

[odd bison]

i just crashed and started downloading a 1 gb update

[woeful halo]

ironic, that patch fixes some crashes

[stiff palm]

how to join a room

voice

[timid geyser]

#🔴how-to-join-voice🔴

[solid thunder]

Does Anyone have POB error ? cannot click any of the builds cause of it
was last update

[sullen spear]

i'm missing a heart part, and area is 0 monsters ! is that a bug ? or it's normal to not get it everytime done ?

[copper kernel]

it happens

[sullen spear]

so it's not a bug?

[copper kernel]

it might be a bug

we dont know

[sullen spear]

who knows then 😦

[patent canyon]

someone responsible instead of random players who have nothing to do with game creation 🤔

[sullen spear]

@patent canyon it's the " mechanics chat room " so i asked 😄

[hollow wharf]

https://poedb.tw/us/Atlas

[gloomy acorn]

i cant find missing part of body "brain" is it possible itsnt spawning?

[copper kernel]

yes

[gloomy acorn]

what happens when i pass to next map parts will deleting or resetting?

[copper kernel]

they stay in the previous zone

[mild jasper]

any1 got good stuff from the league mechanic?

[gloomy acorn]

what if i reset of previous zone instance

[copper kernel]

you lose the organs

it ultimately doesnt matter especially while leveling

[autumn summit]

How do u use the "unknown monster component"

[fading cedar]

How is Artillery Ballista?

[native nexus]

can you guys log in

[zealous monolith]

nope, server is down for about 15min

they said so ingame to deploy a patch

[dim ore]

the hell?

[native nexus]

its been way more than 15 mins

[north gull]

no 15 mins ggg time

which could be anything

[ruby thicket]

If you're missing a part, it's probably due to a bug, where instead of the missing part, you're getting a unnamed monster component, which by the way you can't use.

[zealous monolith]

yeah I had that a lot. As well as sometimes, starting a metamorph would crash my client so hard that it would close my instance and change my map device from small to big.

[half ember]

you have as long as it takes to get your first orb of chaos