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if i understood you
no
player buff towers don't affect other towers
you have to leave them at t3 if you want tower buff towers still
Will t3 buff t4 buff?
As in t3 buff towers can buff t4's?
i think he meant if t3 buff towers could buff the effects of t4 empower/debuff towers
they can
um
What’s the meta for blight towers ?
Fire and ice with support towers between them.. But if that's what most monsters are immune to , then you just spam other types.. Also check out tower enchants for ring.. 'Meteor towers ( lvl 4 fire tower ) always stun' is a great one.
Temporal and glacial cage with some meteor towers for dps
i just spam a ton of the minion towers because even if the enemies are immune to them they still get kind of body blocked in the lane and it slows them down a bit
I spam whatever towers there are no resistance against
Between fire, lightning and minion there is usually one type that doesn't get countered
As for blight maps, do the same but help with empowering towers with 2x range anoint
been liking lots of glacial cage (with 2x glacial cage cd recovery speed anoints) with some scout towers thrown in some places for damage. the profane bloom explosions are quite fun when theyre all packed together
no
souls of steel
Is that the three Golden oil one ?
Laughs in Marauder
Is the legion sextant challlenge still bugged
Probably
@austere anvil bugged how?
you could do the sextant challenge by using scarabs and any random sextant mods applied around a month or so ago. @mortal yarrow
wanted to know if it got fixed or not
why not test it :o
I already have the challenge comepleted
using(abusing) the bug
a friend of mine needed it and we tried using scarab but apparently a random sextant needed to be applied as well
will see
im not gonna test i got my 24 chalenges and didnt get that particualr one 😄
skitterbots bye bye
i got it in like 20 yellow sextants
it was the last challenge i did
you just cant get it on white ones
i do temporal with flame thrower pretty nice combo
Any intel on 3.9?
what should i annoint my rings wiht
with tower anoints you use most
scouts, frost cages empowering and sometimes meteor/flamethrower, which should i prioritise in that case?
any of those
it doesnt really matter, play around with each and decide what feels best for you
blight encounters in a nutshell
ok so i have done like 100s of blights and only now im finally seeing the flame throwing ass hats that everyone is complaining about. i actually had to leap slam away a few times on my invincible jugg to not die
every other blight has them now
do i need to bring a ruby flask?
does blight map loot scale with amount of party members?
I mean not only from the pump, but from the caches as well
no, the chests are not affected by quantity at all
i dont think there is anything in the game affecting the chests, other than annoints and drop level
How have people been liking "The Stampede" boots?
I heard people are using it with cyclone so it doesn't slow them down
yeah
idk, I didn't get a single blight league unique
got 24 challs and did multiple high red tier blighted maps
lol
there are 10 people on the poe.ninja ladder who are both using the stampede and have cyclone as a main skill
so apparently people don't understand the interaction
Hey, any dead eye ice shot rangers around?
how long does this blight thing still last?
December 3rd ish
its branching, exile
nEw ROOOTS
so
That's a yikes for me dogg
you dont its over
blight goes till dec 3rd
"current blight league" in channel description
Hehe new guy wants to study blight and make stuff instead of cassia and her pointless purging with fire
can someone tell me about conquerer thing, i closed the stream while he was talking about that
Each sample contributes abilities to this boss, who wildly morphs from form to form during the encounter. With careful selection of samples, you control which abilities the boss has and what rewards it yields.
yall think we will be getting Wolf in 3.9?
also lmao Ancestral Call Plus Support
+3 targets for strike skills
with Tribal Fury thats 5 targets
throw Melee splash on that and youre hitting a shitload of enemies
tribal fury will be expensive depending how blight is integrated
at the higher end yes, but I don't think they'll be super accessible in the future
so, 3.9 is metamorph?
yes
ooh its metamorph + CONQUEROR
is there any (even an eastimate) release date for metamorph?
Can you use 'plus' support gems alongside regular supporting gems?
Like ancestral call plus and ancestral call in one link?
Im curious about that blasphemy support gem plus, because its mana reservation is worded differently.
now i get to be curious about what to league start with though. I was thinking id just do essence drain, but if there is a bow rework 
If it's possible, then just imagine Flicker strike + Multistrike + faster attacks + Multistrike plus + Faster attack plus + Some damage ability
Did you see the new ballista gems?
I'm just curious on how the summoners will be nerfed
so many options lol
Minions buff in 3.9
Too bad we have to wait another month to play the new league D:
i read lots of animorphs as a kid... ama
Applegate is a hack
Anyways its sad that a League named Metamorph and we don't have any shapeshifting skills lol
is it only the new bow gems/supports being added for 3.9?
im still bothered by the new atlus thing 😦
exiles gone mad, they are the new bosses. Yet only 5 of them are bosses. My OCD is angry lol.
So its still kinda weird to see only bows got the treatment
Look at my name
IS THERE JUSTICE?
well, some of the bow supports apply to wands too
like barrage
so while wands are still gonna be lame for a bit, at least you will have better supports finally.
barrage kinetic blast will probably be stupid too.
you can hit the same mob with like 30 explosions.
I hope they considered that bow builds are extremely beginner-unfriendly
not sure why they'd be beginner unfriendly
I suspect barrage is being removed in favor of being a support?
Wait are aurabots dead?
8 max skills
You can't socket a skill gem in a skill gem
And 8 skills is the max one can get
So aurabots=dead?
4 more expansions
Ah shit if this is Animorph League, will I had to lead a bunch of children with disability into a suicide job?
So 1-1.5 yrs?
I mean Animorphs got WAYYYYY dark
oh my fucking G
new EXALTSSSSSS , new STUFFF, NEW EEEEND GAMEEE
omfg
ooooh
say wut
Aurabot aren’t dead
@deep wave enlighten is reworked to be a gem that you socket auras into
There gonna be a new gem for aura sockets
Oh god 4 new exalts
Like the current exalt isn't rare enough
Also Conquerors of the Atlas is probably the most meta League/Expansion ever
Honestly I hope they increase drop rate
but holy shit\
with all the currency modifications/gem reworks/everything rework
this shall be interesting
you know
if they just released the metamorph trailer today
i'd have been fucking hyped
now I can clear burial in 40 seconds
Cassia: and the unrighteous were turn to ash
Alch dude: yo
My stuff is definately unrighteous all right
Also this League is more simple than Blight
wait what
havent been watching ls, from the notes itself it seems much more complicated
Skylanders imaginators
when do I get to fight 4 shapers at once
Holy crap power creep
Fork Plus
Plus gems
I am sad that most of the new gems are bow exclusive
Its the last line up
We got a Melee exclusive League
A Minion/Traps and Mines/Poison exclusive League
Now its a Ranged Exclusive League
it'll be cheap and good
That’s smort
although, I suspect nobody played poison last league due to the prices on poison gear
or, relatively few people I guess
Damn
Just realized, with the new gem changes that poison might be easier to scale effectively
in the future or this league?
it already scales really quickly, doesn't it?
Eh kinda
maybe it's cuz I haven't really touched endgame
Cause ideally want dw dagger/claw so only one 6l
but once you start hitting 3m dps off 1 aura what more do you need
I invested all into dmg basically and had like 1.5-2m dps
Idk I had a hard time personally
I know some people in the disc had pob with like 3m+ but I never could get there easily
hmmm
I don't have my daggers in pob, I'm probably doing less dmg than I think 
oh but I don't have a lot of my other gear either
lemme show off my jank-ass build if you don't mind :L
if the new gem system launched tomorrow, minions would be even more broken. 6L zombies, skeles, AND spectres all together? yikes.
Okay anyone wanna bet they made Sharpnel Arrow and Explosive Arrow better?
obviously they are balancing things around that, but still funny to think about
Oh god I realized something: when Zana asked us if we are still sane, she WAS PREPARING FOR THIS
She already know that we are gonna get mad with maps and only want more power
Also did you see the trailer progression: it goes from normal builds to screen clearing ones, which is a reference to US, the players who are obssessed with powers
This had to be the most meta Expansion ever made by mankind
By mankind, for mankind.
So what if Harbingers were just us
We the Exiles are in a constant loop of fate where the successors are doomed to fight against the precussors and take their place instead
Honestly ggg has the most original league ideas of any game
I’m hyped af for this league mechanic , I just hope endgame is more accessible than blight
Yeah, should be neat. jewelry quality is pretty interesting as well.
One really cool thing I was thinking about was 5% reduced mana reservation mod should be able to hit 6% with life/mana catalyst.
Your in for a great time 🙂
Sounds like it was received well
giiiiirl we go together like aluminium and gallium
After settling from the excitement, i feel the presentation really was excellent. They were very careful not to even hint at any problems with the new system(s) and focus on the exciting aspects
So new league in good thing a month + a atlas rework, sweet 😁
And bow skill revamp!
The new atlas sounds really awesome, too. They made it sound like it's pretty much interactive with socketing, as if you can change what you're farming in between maps
Mhm
Bow rework seems nice
More mapping, so zana can exile more exiles whom have gone mad due mapping!
inb4 ballista forgotten and still in the dumpster
Guess they buff the weaponclass, that is already one of the best? 😁
wasn't ballista one of the main reworks they showed off
looked more like a new ballista type skill with low-medium range
oic was only seeing the first 2h or so before going to bed
yeah I think they reworked ballista totem so there are like 3 primary types of ballistas now
one is point blank with shotgun capability, one is more normal gunner, one shoots straight up and rains areas down
ah so the second one should be the current one with some tweaks i'd guess
from what I gathered the standard ballista is basically RAT now
iron commander stuff is probably gonna be doink
iron commander is never doink
dunno i liked current ballista for the offscreens, not sure if that'll still be a thing with any ballista form now
the blast rain one looked like it covered a decent aoe
the short range one looked indistinguishable from shrapnel shot RAT
yeah I'm not sure how those are separated
yeah that one left me pretty unimpressed but i havent seen the rest yet
The AoE on the blast rain one seemed bloody massive
I mean I guess you save a socket
Might compensate for the double delay of placing a ballista then waiting for the rain
thats my main issue with the aoe type totems
proj based ones just have the potential to be more useful faster
i mean its all academic for me
I could see the shrapnel ballista being really stupid single target
not like im ever gonna play something as slow clearing as totem builds as long as mapping is the endgame
but I guess a lot of totem builds check that box
dunno ballista deadeye will always be on the faster end of totem builds for me
definitely ok
Congrats,Faust
Your dream had came true
Balistae are now meta again.... Sort of.
dont think thatll ever change
well
they were great as starters but we have better options for that now too
im going to try at some point how kb barrage support clears
cos it sounds like comedy
just watching the vod so let's see
would be great if we got some dot scaling for minions
So will the Barrage Jewel changed into something else?
barrage is a support now
No the thereshold jewel
oh, yeah presumably that jewel dies
is that even good tho
Okay heres how it works
You fire one arrow into the location
It will spread into 5 more arrows
Now as we all know about TS, it will turn into a small nova of arrows after a set distance
So what you have is essentially cover a pack with 5 novas
with ensnaring arrows they're really buffing bleed glad, neat
or instead i could fire ts without this support and clear the pack in the first hit
maybe lol
ts is good skill like that
TS nerf plus big monster life increase
Or just strap TS with Barrage Support
I think they'll go out of their way to gimp TS
A thing about Barrage Support though
The cover area is extremely small
So its essentially gonna be good against bosses but terrible with clearing
Also. Barrage Support is essentially the ranged version of Multistrike/Spell Echo
so are all maps white tier by default in 3.9
the new atlas stuff is 3.9
but I was just thinking it implies all map items will be one tier basically
No I thought the entire CoTA won't happened until you killed UE for the first time
quite
at the moment they said shaper / elder are only accessible through zana
but may expand access to them a bit before it releases
Fuck, Eternity Shroud going up in price IS NOT what I had expected
Has it been revealed if you can put plus support gems with regular support gems?
Like plus added cold damage with regular added cold damage?
I don't think so, but chances are no
yo guys, do you know if we will get the new graphics in 3.9? or only updated act 1?
neither?
We do get new a1 in 3.9
town != act
We get a new town? Thought that will tale till 4.0?
damn im hype for these bosses
I wonder what the league specific loot will be like
Uly, did you get a single blight league unique item?
and how many blighted maps you dropped
got none
Because I personally am not counting on getting a single league specific unique item as "average" player. That became apparent during blight league
not just blight
it goes way back
@barren crescent blight was so bad I quit before maps
optimization sucked and the league mechanic was much more boring than I thought
its the first league I skipped since I started in legacy too
👌
It just always feels that if I'm not able to sink 500h+ into a league I won't get to experience even half of the league's content
am I just that bad or what
shouldve skipped legacy uly
werent blighted maps notoriously rare
even if i sink plenty time i barely get shit done
I did quite a few blighted maps
and not finding at least half of the league unique is kinda bad in itself imo
just no league uniqs
cant find marohi in ssf easily anymore, no pledge and other cool shit too
gating existing stuff behind legion was even more of a kick in the nuts
I had same during Incursion, I recently checked my std stash and I think I found my incursion tab, 3 vials 0 uniq bases
dont get me started on vials
since incursion I sunk 200h+ every league without avoiding incursion encounters
Delve league, 0 auls
amd ive gotten one notewortht vial
how deep were you
like 600-700 if I remember correctly
the deeper you go the better the chances, so at least you can make it more likely for these to appear
but with incursion its just sub 1% droprates
in delve I got to 650
met 3 or 4 auls
and like 1 ahuatotli
I had couple of those vaal bosses
1 Abyss boss
0 auls
to this day, 0 auls found
rip
but then again I haven't really pushed delve in these recent leagues
so thats on me
ive been stopped from delving thanks to privjet league
got shafted by the master changes
since bestiary is back i found exactly 1 boss - 1x crab
I found like 4 tigers to this day
This league I simply was not doing any master content as I wasn't forced
so I was always banking "maybe I'll get better maps to use these on"
then I got bummed out for not encountering delve/incursion/bestiary
when is meta expected?
league or whats strong?
A week after launch
when is the new league expected
13th'ish or so
dec 13?
yh
are the 5 sealed poe2 bosses from the original classes?
Doubt so
guess i'll be ready to try it out in dec
its metamorphing, exile???
So you guys theory crafting ballista builds now ? :)
with access to multiple 6Ls i really want to make that shotgun turret a thing for satisfying boss deletions
It will get touched alright
You can't rework a skill and then do NOTHING about the only item in the game that is unique to it
we had a minion league and many minion uniques didnt get touched and even some minion skills
so i think i'd still be cautious
Not really
Those are more of generic summons
Balista has Iron Commander EXCLUSIVELY for it
So Gx3 is probably doing something with it
gx3 😩
gx3
Can someone explain me how gx3 is more practical than ggg? Prettysure g is clickable 3 times.
Its not
gx3 
What you really really want?
i want pictures of spider man
functional league from day 1
don't dream
nope
3-7 days
not being able to play league content is really big turn off
7 days is too much, i am thinking of quiting league by that point
just the whole fact that the build I was playing was fun is the reason i even played blight for whole 2 weeks
I waited a few days till I started playing
What is 'mana reservation override'
it forces mana reservation to that amount before modifiers
tbh i really doubt the league is going to be function from day 1
but in a far better position than blight started in 100%
this rapid boss change mechanic is going to be really weird and tough to iron out all of the problems without some god testing in the development stage
ofc they still have a month to make it better
but all patches essentially come with their own host of problems
especially given that we're getting a brand new league ontop of an expansion at the same time
Why not just make a beta before every league
effort, people get burnt out before the league, people get knowledge about the mechanic and stuff gets leaked
yeah
sorta removes a lot of the magic from the first 2 weeks where people don't realistically know all the interactions and how stuff works out patch wise
it was speculated mines were gonna be wild but only 3% of people on poe ninja are using ice mine
idk what speculations you were looking at
there are many things missing yet to release a beta imo
Releasing a proper beta would be completely impossible with the time-frame they operate on
is this THE molten strike league? 
if they murder some skill it is unlikely to see it being buffed so if i were you id forget ms
i vote for g³
Bows are my favourite thing in games also Mages too
So i will play mage with a bow next league 100%
inb4 bow caster affixes left in the dust
that would be nice
Caster bows as a separate base
man ole man i hope metamorph comes with some sick alchemical/potion holding and dangleing cosmetics...i so wanna make a mad scientist shadow
so do you guys think iron commander will affect all ballista
Neon said it would work
BRUH
Iron Commander OP now, or are they gonna nerf it to 1 per 500 dex?
Ah the Curtain Call meme
We don't know what are the new stats for the Balistas yet
Will caustic arrow be enough to interact with the league?
Don't know how it compares for bossing
currently CA struggles on bosses
it will likely have a balance pass since it is a bow skill
toxic rain to support?
it may not get buffed significantly though
toxic rain is fine on both bosses and clear
sounds like a plan then
use frenzy - barrage - poison on hit for bossing too
charges and virulence forever
u need to at least 4l the crawler of course
yeah
which takes like 55% of ur mana
but sure i dont see any major issues with that
uh dofl minion damage and vicious projectiles i think is the best 3 support gems
check pob
faster attacks?
agony crawler has 120 inc aspd at max stacks
some more inc aspd is pretty garbage for scaling
Toxic rain needs a mana cost reduction.
quill rain toxic rain
Yea but it doesn't scale that well anymore. :x
I just run a +3 vp bow with mines. Makes that scary 800 mana/sec cost into 40 mana/sec
@hazy raptor i bet your right about the cosmetics
Bow builds all have extremely big mana costsz
They confirm new support barrage? Or change of barrage?
Barrage Barrage
barrage barrage with arrow nova
120% rain skills cannot be supported by barrage
Are rain skills still gonna be around anyway
Wait was there a rain support
Or am I getting mixed up
2 of them
one is for poe2 the flare skill and other is similar but not actually rain skill
you shoot at location and from where the projectiles fire in nova
Those shrapnel ballistas will be some meme tier boss dps
slap some Arborix+Impale Champ on it
and it be shredding
inb4 changed to have dmg convert
ye idk why they changed the name
of what
Galvanic arrow is old shrapnel, right?
makes more sense this way, shrapnel shot didnt really have shrapnels
tru
we already have the new gems?
Metamorph looks spicy as hell
Quick question, you can't annoint talismans because they're corrupted right?
y
Exactly
Thank you
Won't they get cold? :^(
are you making pickles in fish water?
hey lads
Do we know if the leash of oblation belt works like mistress of sacrifice, where offerings affect you, or just lets you have multiple running
https://imgur.com/us2cmPX
I feel like its the latter
it just lets you have multiple running. you have to stack mistress of sacrifice or queen's hunger on top of it to have them also affect you
queen's hunger?
ah
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Queen's_Hunger
doesnt quite work for what I needed, rip
because its only offerings triggered by queen's hunger
I was going to see if I could do the offering heartbound loop build but with juggernaut so that you could use the "regen from damage takent" thing to stack a ton of hp regen too
but doesnt look like its doable
basically Im looking at starting the league as a heartbound loop build, and hating myself, or doing agony crawler gladiator so I can comfortably do all content
Trigger socketed skill, triple offering
The question, will they need more corpse to trigger both
It may bugged since no corpse around after first offering
Did any of the exilecon stuff about metamorph suggest if it's gonna be a low tier map spam league (like legion) or a t16 spam league (like blight and delve) ?
With the limited info we have from the metamorph page it has strong possiblities to be either. With me leaning towards white map spam personally since you don't have to kill anything special and jsut by completing maps you get the league mechanic rewards (monsters to turn into special encounters for reward, like bestiary)
the shards can drop with loot variables
which seems to scale from map level
All it takes is one good loot drop that cant drop from metamorph level lower than 83
Then hey presto its high tier map spam
I hate trying to sustain reds so I hope its white map spam
But probably gonna be red map spam
One thing I'm worried about is if a map isn't on the edge of a zone you probably won't be able to use white sextants on it while it's red. And presumably the ones on the edge will be lower tier. That's not metamorph related those that's conqueror related
sextants no longer have radius
so if the map is red you simply cannot get a white sextant mod on it
regardless of it being on the edge or not
there's also the possibility that sextants no longer are restrained to map tier but only to the modifiers that they give
anyone know if the new socketing system is for 3.9 or its only for 4.0?
only 4.0
Wish it was 3.9!
3.9 is bow rework, new endgame, metamorph league, none of the other stuff shown IIRC
Wonder how hard the new boss mechanic will be 
3.9 is December right?
yep, december 13
Ty
PoE 2 isn't a separate game. It's just the name given to the massive overhaul of game systems + adding the new story mode. All changes apply to both campaigns, and the endgame is still shared
awesome
campaigns being chapter 1-5 and 6-10?
the current 10 acts are the PoE campaign. the PoE 2 campaign is 7 new acts set 20 years after the first campaign, with new playable characters
well only templar is at risk for dying of old age
oh. 7 new chapters? 😮
why not just level a character through kitava to "act 11"
also what's the deal with shaper/elder going away?
how does story mode work then? has there been any info about it?
@grave valve recommend watching the dev talk, starting from here: https://youtu.be/tVdpOCxRwj4?t=15844
@stark tartan you pick which campaign you want to play when you start a new character
interesting
maybe we'll get a young templar in the second one that is the templar in the first one's grandson.
they did a very quick show of the new templar and he looked middle aged, so the timing would work
Does he also look like a giraffe?
the showing was specifically to point that out
it was in Erik's talk, so not streamed
Ah shame
he had a whole slide of giraffe memes
and then showed the new templar's perfectly normal neck
Aww, we will miss the old templar
I'm not actually sure what's going to happen to him
they said they're updating all the old characters to use the new animation rigs. does that mean that he'll have to be de-giraffed?
i shall name him Stumpy. we will be great friends.
is this 100% entirely confirmed
yes
i want to make 10238% sure
I will go find you the timestamp
that's a lot of percents.
isn't there something big about the passive tree changing for poe2? or will that also apply to poe1
that will also apply to 1
i know that ascendancy choice is different for poe1/2
ascendancy choices aren't actually different, you just have to unlock them
yes, once you've picked survivalist in poe2
i'm a survivalist in poe regardless of my ascendancy. 🤔
and as existing players we already get all the poe1 ascs unlocked for poe2 so don't have to worry about that
and we see in 3.9 lioneye's watch looks way better now
soooo
will eventually, poe1 look and feel as good as poe2?
https://youtu.be/tVdpOCxRwj4?t=6041 there's your timestamp
it won't look as good
they're doing work to touch it up, but most of it has to be done manually
hmm
so they aren't using all the new stuff in 1
i watched that bit multiple times and for some reason i still wasn't entirely sure
just don't play part 1 if it bugs you
i also heard somewhere that a bunch of ascendancies from poe1 are gonna be massively reworked because of poe2?
indeed
ascendancies, specifically
so EVENTUALLY, say before 5.0 comes out or whatever
poe1 and poe2 will be equal-quality campaigns
probably
as they touch up poe1
i notice that poe2 seemed kinda zoomed out a bit or something
something about the camera was different
and i guess that'd be coming to poe1
no it won't
tons and tons of the improvements in 2 will never come to 1
that was stated explicitly somewhere
I think it was in one of the non-streamed talks
it would require way too much work
oof
Racers probably still league start with 1. Until people have gauged both
Next league atlas changes also gonna throw a wrench in the works for speed farmers hitting maps. Hope it's intuitive
keeping track of 5 different exalt prices should be interesting, tho i guess if you just consider them as usual new league currency its not all too different (?)
i just realized that kind of annoying skill jonathan was using in the demo was ice shot supported by arrow nova
arrow nova support seems absolutely fucking nutty for clear
yup
artillery ballista looked surprisingly impressive for clear too
double delay of totem placement + rain skill, but man the aoe is insane
wonder how it works with traps...maybe too much damage reduction
For people struggling to understand poe 2. Its the same way that fortnite randomly became fortnite chapter 2. Just an update so big they are using a name change for marketing
You can basically ignore what it's being called and thing of it as being 4.0
@thorny vortex 5 different exalts will be interesting BUT since the orbs seem to only add from their conqueror pool (hunter or whatever specific mods just like shaper or elder mods) that means if there is a pool of mods that's very out of meta itll probably be considerably less than an exalt in price. Especially if they are less than an exalt in rarity which given that they are boss specific drops should be the case
it's like... a free expansion...idk--i cant grasp why people totally misunderstand
yeah i kinda figure once people start figuring out/data-mining the mods they will fluctuate in price
oh i didnt know they were boss specific
I expect regular exalts will remain the gold standard and the other exalts will just be treated like their own thing instead of being treated like regular exalts
yea, i agree
i would guess each will be 'worth' more than an exalt tho
assuming the pools are all at least decent, which sounds like they are
I think the meta one will be worth a lot
for sure
if like.. the hunter one is meta, i could see it being anywhere from 5-50 exalts each
eh, id be surprised if any of them are under 1 ex in price
feel like that's supposed to be the floor, but who knows
I'd have to see what's available for the pools.
im guessing the devs want them to be 'worth' at least what a normal exalt is worth, or they woulda named them something different
so even the worst pool should be decent, and they sound like they'll be at least as rare as an exalt
Imagine there is a melee strike based conqueror he will be so out of meta and probably wont even give you t1 life or other good mod so it's worse than an ex in many situations
You're right it depends on the pool
Seems like 3 of the 5 (or is it 4) will have +1 charge mods so those will be good no matter what
but pulling from a much smaller pool should give it some intrinsic value, crafting a GG piece of gear for off meta builds is still worth a lot of money, know what i mean?
its 4
new exalts give me the same feel as the corrupt essences
which is weird, cause there is 5 conquerors
Depends what the pool is
If its 4 melee mods in bow league itll be less than an ex
Or 4 mine mods
I'm hoping one of them is summoner friendly and cheap in bow league
i only just noticed the part that says "Using the power of Sirus, Awakener of Worlds, you can fuse together any two influenced items to create a hybrid with mods from both of the items."
ooh i was just rewatching the metamorph stuff from chris's speech, when he kills a metamorph and the loot drops.. its got stuff from a bunch of leagues, so thats cool
splinters, veiled items, scarabs, etc.. loot looks pretty
good
obv, no idea how high of a tier the boss he fought was, but it reminds me of a legion monolith all at once
a full ancient orb even dropped, nooice.
yea, the lootsplosion was pretty incredible
I even saw league specfic drops (breach rings) in addition to splinters
finna make a split nova build
i
step 1: split arrow
step 2: arrow nova support
i just wanna see what it looks like lol
on top of split arrow million projectiles
i wonder how +1 proj works
probably +1 nova proj not +1 payload proj
but we'll see
curious how barrage support + arrow nova will look...and how little damage it might do
awesome
so let's see
13 arrow nova at l20 split arrow?
nice
approximately 30 degrees per arrow
no shotgunning, i'm gonna go on a limb and just bet that
hmm. i want to try another ci acro build but this time an archer
oh, i didn't even realize that was you lol
yuri gives me names and i just take them
so that's what's up
hi babe how is you how is the bear you're e-fucking?
in uh, metamorphosis or like right now in blight
i imagine coward's trial will become very very expensive if we can change its tier as well
metamorph
given that they just sectioned off the atlas into 5 and said "hey this entire section is affected"
then yes cowards trial gucci af
vaults can be made t16 👀
god farming strategies will be so much easier
yeah they were hesitant about admitting unique maps could be raised to higher tiers...they know people gonna try to take advantage of it
oh really
i'm gonna make tropical island t16 then farm zana missions til i get TIER 16 UNTAINTED PARADISE
kinda had a 'yeah we're gonna be watching that' kinda tone idk
they specifically said they were going to have to go through and adjust drop rates because of it.
i wonder how much god damn currency people would spend on t16 untainted paradise
since you get literally like 4-5x the exp
probably still slower than doing regular rotas due to the inconsistency
granted, if you were doing zana mission rotas in t16s...
WAIT
maze of the minotaur
forge of the phoenix
pit of the chimera
lair of the hydra
all of those layouts are gone now
they're all being added to zana missions
at least
they said they may need to add them elsewhere as well
makes sense, they have unique art
guardians (elder) are also going to be available that way
mhm
elder guardians will be getting fragments to get to elder
yeah i heard about that
and shaper + elder will drop frags to get to Uber
it's interesting
do waystones only come from the endgame exile-god bosses?
at various tiers i guess
I didn't hear the specifics on that
oh shit, i just realized
but likely
They probably will still.
Yea, likely they will still do it
hmm
honestly i didnt really enjoy this league as my 2nd league ever
but i hope this mix and match league
does
Leagues tend to alternate good/bad
i started in july
i liked blight cause my main build was absolutely bonkers for blight maps
i basically played 1 build the entire league 
you have a problem mumu
Didnt realise i passed 1k hours
I only recently checked.
thinking ah yeah around 500 hours ive put in
I'm at 3390, but I've been playing for years
Do you leave the game running afk?
Do you not have a job or something?
nope
Ahh
oh im a bit behind, but on the note on t16 uniques.. yea neon specifically said all the unique maps could be made 't14-16', i.e. red, and they already adjusted some drop rates as a result.. but would be 'watching it to see if we need to adjust more'
actually i don't gotta work cause i live with family
i can play while i'm at work.
but i gotta work 😔
so id imagine a few uniques can only hit like t14/15, depending on their base tier, but still
coward's trial and poorjoy's he specifically mentioned become 'really efficient'
i even got my boss playing at work one day. he didn't stick with it though.
bet thats the best way to level the support plus gems 😄
my work involves me walking around for 4-8 hours with a couple breaks in between depending on the shift
walking and taking things off shelves
if the shift is longer than 4 hours my feet ache at the end
so if i'm working the day after i have to take a pill
normal weeks are 3 or 4 days of work
this week i work 5 days 🙃
Invest into shoes
i'm gonna be starting a gamedev company with a couple of programmer friends
but like
that's not gonna make any money lol
bigger
Discord is breaking it for some reason
https://i.imgur.com/IjthF1r.jpg full size one
res is kinda low even if I click on the imgur link
ah yeah this works
kinda hard to read it unzoomed, maybe the color
I might have to make a different one just for discord
cause yeah the red looks weird
How campaigns will work in PoE2:
yep that's heaps better
I feel like the PoE2 Ascendancies would be tad bit better
Like that Melee Bow thing
Apparently they're going to heavily rework the PoE1 ascendancies too
it was 100% confirmed that poe2 ascendancies can be used in poe1 right
and the skilltree changes for 4.0.0 are for both poe2 and poe1 right
1st yes
2nd porbably, but i'm not sure
poe2 is just an update. noting more.
i just want to make sure that, no matter what we do, how when or what, all 6 ascendancies and the entire skill tree can be used in either campaign
after unlocking everything or whatever
you can
you have to play poe1 and poe2 to get all ascendancies
true
for some reason i thought you needed to ascend to every single ascendancy to unlock them in poe1
lol
like "oh no i haven't played beastmaster yet, i gotta make one so i can play one in poe1"
but if you are a new player when poe2 comes out. you have to play poe1 to get all ascendancies
wait you dont need to ascend to every single ascendancy to unlock them?
just play the class and you'll be able to ascend to their respective ascendancy
no just every class once
and you just need to unlock them. so you just need to get to act 3
mm
having 6 ascendancies to choose from... hoo boy
that's gonna be a nightmare for ggg to balance lol
but also
holy fucking shit
the new ones look more simple
poe already had endless choice of builds
now we have even more
the new ones are more simple yes, and ggg intends to make the current ones mildly simpler as well, with more poe2 stuff like granting skills, etc
wouldn't it be cool if chieftain's 100% phys as fire for 4 seconds was an instant skill that had a 10 second cooldown
so you could beat up bosses with it on command, like focus
or like
elementalist's pendulum of destruction was a stance mechanic
there is a lot more they can do. because of the new skill system. cant wait to see what they can come up with.
Is berserker with dual wand barrage power siphon too much speed or not enough? 
And if you were to support Vaal power siphon with barrage would it fire extra projectiles in a line for every nearby enemy?

I'd assume it would work how VPS current works and only the projectile that targeted the enemy could hit the enemy so in that case it is actually a really bad support for VPS.
However normal power siphon should work great with the support
I wonder if this will push KB to having decent single-target
or will Frenzy barrage be the thing?
Can't really tell for sure until patch notes, but since KB is ground targeted I'm not sure how that is gonna work with barrage
Assuming KB works and explosions stackup properly it will probably be BIS single target for wanders (assuming no other new skills come out)
KB's overlap was effectively removed
Yeah, assuming that carries over to barrage it won't be that great.
I'm mostly speaking in hypotheticals if they allow it to overlap with barrage support.
Barrage KB would be insanely fun
Barrage PS too
Oh shit someone remind GGG to buff Power Siphon
ahhhhhhhhh
@timid geyser in one of the clips we could see caustic arrow barrage and it seemed to function just fine as a ground targeted attack
On semi unrelated note, the amulet that combines arrows into one seems pretty nice for caustic arrow
CA Barrage sounds bad until you realized that the DoT grounds STACKS with eachother
Meaning that landing all hits on a boss with CA = literally meltdown
It doesn't stack tho
You can already stack up arrows and fire it next to you to overlap them
Each arrow's explosion will hit but only one pool will do damage
So what would be best with Barrage Support?
Anything that already has built in extra arrows
Like Power Siphon?
Puncture bleed would be kinda nice
So you don't have to invest into attack speed as much
Also on an unrelated note making that Power Siphon WORKS with bows would be the best solution for now
Dears 🙂 Questions not regarding Metamorph directly, but for new 5 item bases. As was announced by Chris, that Elder & Shaper unique characteristics will be shared between new 5 bosses items. There is also a possibility, that you can make for example elder item you add additionally one of the boss prefixes/suffix in it. So does it mean, that now, for example, i can have for axe - Fortify from Elder Mode, and Maim for example from Shaper mods, which will be moved from some new bossess?
we dont know
eeehhhh... The only way is to wait and see... But it will great, if it will be like this - Culling Strike+Fortify+Maim - pseudo-9 link for melee. So this is officially craft league i think 🙂
So now we can quality our jewels
This raises me a question: what can we raise on Unique rings and amulets?
Also its funny how Blight and Metamorph both also focus on jewels
We can qual jewels? Wtf?
I thought we only saw jewelry quality
^
Unless you means jewels as in jewelry slang and not the type that go on the tree
@hollow osprey
Accessories! Or rings and amulets
I get it though, I frequently misuse gems and jewels, they're interchangeable to me
What kinds of builds will probs be best with metamorph 🤔
For the boss farming I mean
do the new conqueror's exalted orbs work on any item, or only on influenced items?
should be any item. I don't think they were planning to do new influenced items.
plus since you can mix and match them
I thought all 5 had respective influenced items? did I get that wrong?
seems weird to limit influence mods to specialized exalted orbs only
that would be a lot of new influenced items then @.@
yes
Yeah it’s 4 new types?
yeah, four new orb types
the 5th one is the mega boss/uber
3.9 is gonna be so much fun figuring out all this stuff on top of a nifty (I hope) league mechanic
I liked how they had legion bosses just be all bosses together, even though the execution was just "run around and kill everything as fast as you can"
im still banking on the super boss being the four new guardians and the uber all put together into one monster lol
I wonder if you can do that with the league mechanic 
that said, i think im starting essence drain in 3.9



