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[distant scarab]

and I have 32gb of DDR4 ram

Im a programmer so all my money went into ram and cpu XP

[autumn snow]

r9 390

i5 4430 tho

8gb

[distant scarab]

yeah I think maybe its the cpu that people choke on

[autumn snow]

yep

problem is

new cpu = new motherboard and new ram

[distant scarab]

eyup

though maybe you could look into a.... 4770k I think?

[autumn snow]

I could do that

I kinda want to do a big upgrade though

[distant scarab]

I think thats the same chipset, and will probably be a huge boost, 4770k are very popular, many businesses still use them as kind of an industry standard

that was my old cpu before I did the DDR4 ram upgrade, and my 6700k was only like an 8% improvement

[wet plaza]

well the jump from 4 cores to 4c/8threads is huge

my old i5 was easily maxed by poe and some browser tabs

[autumn snow]

hm

I'll check that

[distant scarab]

exactly, so even an older i7 is still gonna be a huuuuge upgrade

[wet plaza]

eh

just go ryzen

even the middle class one is super good (2600)

[distant scarab]

ryzen would require upgrading to DDR4 ram though

[autumn snow]

that's the problem

[wet plaza]

worth saving up for imo

[distant scarab]

thats the thing, if they got a 4770k they wouldnt need to change motherboard or ram or anything, Im pretty sure

[wet plaza]

and buy an outdated cpu which contains a lot of design flaws

last time i checked old i7s were way too expensive for what they offer

[autumn snow]

next cpu will be top end

[wet plaza]

even a 3770k was >170€ here in germany

[autumn snow]

best I could get

fuck value/price

[distant scarab]

yup, 4770k and 4430 are both the FCLGA1150 socket

so should be an extremely straightforward swap out, no other parts needed

[autumn snow]

talking about current gen cpu

i9-9900k right?

[wet plaza]

just go ryzen

its fine

5-10% less single core than the i9 but you save 250-300€

[distant scarab]

yeah the 9000 series is current gen consumer intel stuff

[autumn snow]

idk, the difference doesn't look that big

price wise

[wet plaza]

🤔

[autumn snow]

which model are you talking about

[distant scarab]

3600x would be the best "mid-high end" amd processor, and i7-9700k would probably be the mid-high end intel

[wet plaza]

3700x

[distant scarab]

is the extra 5MB cache worth losing .2GHz?

[wet plaza]

doubt youll notice a difference

[distant scarab]

oh its Ryzen 7 not 5 lol

[wet plaza]

and its ~50% cheaper

[distant scarab]

my bad, yeah 3700x is way better than 3600x

[wet plaza]

i mean even the 3600x is super good

[eager charm]

^

Can confirm, using one myself

[autumn snow]

difference is 100€

around that

no wait

a bit more

I just want smooth fps on poe 😩

[wet plaza]

feels plenty smooth on my 2700x

check your cpu utilization during gameplay

[celest atlas]

4k ?

[autumn snow]

it's obviously the cpu

I know that already

[wet plaza]

checking does not hurt

[autumn snow]

I already checked :p

cpu is at 90-100%

gpu around 45-55

[wet plaza]

yeah time to upgrade to more cores/threads

[grizzled moth]

wow

I cannot imagine how stale that thermal paste is

[autumn snow]

mine is 6 years old

[deft girder]

Same

[wary smelt]

t9 map

if i dont get like 45c i lose money i believe

[celest atlas]

also hideout with zombies 😭

[deft girder]

I'm surpised your gpu isn't any hotter.

[wet plaza]

prolly a good custom model

my 970 strix didnt get hotter than 70 on 100% load

and was super quiet

[deft girder]

They getting better with making gpu good but cooler. I probably won't hit above 65c if I had a custom. Mine tend to hang around 70c.

[celest atlas]

no it a good big tower with 4 fan .. coz its for 2070rtx .. but had to send back ..

[dusty umbra]

Nobody wants my 7970 that's as good as 970gtx for 50 euros

[wet plaza]

yeah but its as hot as 1000 suns

[dusty umbra]

This one not really 😄

[deft girder]

I used to have a 460 gtx. That thing is hotter than my oven.

[dusty umbra]

580gtx is what burned down some houses btw

[deft girder]

Oh yeah that meme card.

[autumn snow]

my supreme r9 390 gets to 80

good for winter

[celest atlas]

haah yeah it was like hell 2 month ago than it was already 28++ degree and PC/MOnitor added another few

[deft girder]

I live in a desert.

[kindred dagger]

fuck this league so bad balanced

[quartz dome]

I mean apparently every league is

I won't say this one isn't, but the game is deeply rooted in the idea of "grinding forever to get small rewards"

which is a flaw of the lootsplosions everyone filters out anyway

the more content they add the worse the drop odds seem to get because there's so much to do

[delicate narwhal]

can you tell what portal will be the abyss one?

kinda annoying being OK and suddenly he just walks straight through the other side, i only know that the bosses have a small yellow dot over their heads but id love to know what side i have to spam with CC

[grizzled moth]

Not http://blight.raelys.com @violet nymph ?

[patent canyon]

alrighty lets run those 10 blight maps and see if its actually just straight up 99% chance to profit of those

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon did they nerf maps yet?

[patent canyon]

they did

dropped an ex and next map karma hits me with portal 1pixel away from pump, insta failed

[dusty umbra]

[mortal yarrow]

Oof

Should i save my maps for rotas then hvande?

[autumn snow]

Why would you do rota?

[patent canyon]

i mean it doesnt matter

their price doesnt seem to increase at all

[mortal yarrow]

Hmm

@autumn snow well if they nerf the loot and people raise prices its better to rota them for endgame grind

[autumn snow]

They won't nerf the loot

[patent canyon]

they wont yeah

its just about ppl realising they can sell maps for +10c

[autumn snow]

Legion loot was super overtuned and they didn't nerf it

They never nerf league loot during league

[wet plaza]

loot isnt even that great imo

[autumn snow]

Compared to Legion? Yeah, nothing special

[wet plaza]

no compared to regular fast mapping or delving

[autumn snow]

Should be about the same

I do it mainly for the fun

I like to open the chests

[patent canyon]

so last bunch of 10 maps resulted in something like 250c / h

if i dont count the time i went to eat and stuff

[violet nymph]

Noob Question : When using fusing orb on chest to make 6 link, if i spam super fast there is chance i break 6 link or game stops me from breaking it. I know in case of helmets i can break 4 links using fusing.

[wet plaza]

you cant break 6ls

[violet nymph]

thank you

[patent canyon]

game pls

actually didnt fail the map

towers op

[mortal yarrow]

hi i like cake a lot

[autumn snow]

🤷 @patent canyon

[violet nymph]

t14 blighted primordial blocks. 2 maps wasted since GGG said they fixed portals spawning to close to the pump. And they didn't. Portals still spawn close to the pump you can't do shit. Fucking small indie company!

[wet plaza]

they fixed ONE issue with that

[autumn snow]

same thing as rhoas never dying :p

[wet plaza]

Fixed a bug where, in Blighted Maps, Cassia did not warn that your monsters were close to the pump.

its always this wording

betting it was the same for the close thing

[patent canyon]

what the f was this map

2 giant ass clusters on each side with literally 0 places to build towers

[vernal stream]

Does item rarity gear affect blight chests? I put on a set but not any change in drops from what I saw.

[wet plaza]

IIR and IIQ from gear do not affect chests, and have no effect on the number or type of currency, items, scrolls, or gems that drop from them.[3]

[autumn snow]

nope

[wet plaza]

applies to any form of chest

[acoustic lark]

Do sextants affect blighted maps

[patent canyon]

nope

[vernal stream]

good to know thanks o/

[autumn snow]

@patent canyon what are you using to track your profit

exilence is so damn slow

[patent canyon]

yeah i do scuffed self math with a bit of being a dick

i assume each map drops 8c in raw currency and then i turn on dnd and count sell tab new items

[autumn snow]

I'm not going to manually calculate 25 blighted worth of loot 😩

[patent canyon]

i wouldnt do that either

i guess exilence is the way

[autumn snow]

oh well :/

exilence doesn't seem to work with oils

[patent canyon]

wait... they dropped from 27 to 25 now ._.

do ppl really hate that much on those maps

[autumn snow]

I bought 25 at around 25c each :p

[patent canyon]

GoFundMeFragmentTab

[dusty umbra]

havent tried blight post patch but we'll see how this goes

@patent canyon i'll buy all if u sellin

[patent canyon]

frags dont work on blighted maps

nah i'll spam my shaped map with them

[dusty umbra]

Doesn't matter for me - i spam towers so i always need those

7/8 nurses already

[autumn snow]

I have like

150+ sacrifices

[dusty umbra]

As i said i'd buy all

😛

[wet plaza]

wow trading on this christian server

ban commencing

[dusty umbra]

broke +- even on t10 bog with 3x teal oils used on it

30-40c from decks, 10c black oil, 10c vaults of atziri, 7c for scarabs

[patent canyon]

actually god gamer

won with portal on top of pump

[autumn snow]

my luck is shit today

loot is nothing special so far

[vernal stream]

20 chaos blight map got me this

[autumn snow]

they drop every 15-20 blighted maps

[patent canyon]

i am broke now 😭

need to wait for sales to buy more blight maps

[vernal stream]

2nd ex from blight map lol

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon want to borrow a few maps when i get some in 2 days?

[patent canyon]

how what and why

[livid hare]

You sacrifice your first, second, and third born

[autumn snow]

got one from loot explosion

weird

[mortal yarrow]

You said you are broke

You get a few to run and you bring me, you can get the loot

@patent canyon

[patent canyon]

broke in amount of raw chaos, not actually broke 😛

[mortal yarrow]

Fair :p

[autumn snow]

almost done with my 25 blighed

[patent canyon]

thanks cadibro

[autumn snow]

u rich now

[patent canyon]

very much am

now just need to decide if i want to spend those 3c crafting shapers +1 arrow or elders poison damage quiver

[deft girder]

Hitting 100% on smoldering tower does not remove enemy resistance against towers. So tower resist is set in stone unless you have those enhantment.

[autumn snow]

so

I made around 30c profit from each map

8 maps / hour = 240c

[deft girder]

What tower enchant you use? I like range on mines.

[autumn snow]

meteor

additional meteor and stun

anyway

each yellow blighed map gives around 55c on average

[patent canyon]

and it costs 25 to buy every single one

[autumn snow]

yep

my next test will be with T11

[patent canyon]

they have wider gamble range

[autumn snow]

lemme check the price

45c

[patent canyon]

since every box drops more but at the same time if you dont get the boxes you can quickly lose cash

[autumn snow]

also better loot

I haven't dropped any gilded

[patent canyon]

yeah, when i did T12 single cluster of div cards dropped 15 stacked decks

[autumn snow]

hm

I'll do 25 t11 maps and test

I got 68 stacked decks in 25 maps

[patent canyon]

theoretically should be double in reds

[autumn snow]

maybe

[patent canyon]

i wish my decks would sell ._.

[autumn snow]

3c each?

[patent canyon]

4

i am not going to sell for market price when i have over 40 for sale in bulk

[autumn snow]

true

forget about 45c each

meh

I'm gonna test with a much smaller sample of 5 maps

[patent canyon]

heh, almost outregening bloodrage with wind dancer now even tho i have like 1% regen only

[dusty umbra]

@patent canyon yeah my bulk decks also sold for 4

even if i had only stack of 10

[patent canyon]

sitting for like 4h on 44 for sale now with no one wanting them

[autumn snow]

try 3.5

or 3.7

[patent canyon]

meh not gonna join into this fraction bandwagon

i dont like ppl selling stuff 0.5c

[autumn snow]

well

10 cards is 35c

[patent canyon]

yeah when you buy mass quants of them it turns out to be good thing

no wonder i am not selling for 4

i have to compete with this thing lol

[autumn snow]

1530

[sacred gate]

What does "lucky" mean for a blight chest?

[patent canyon]

rolls twice, picks whatever is better

[sacred gate]

You mean for the items in the chest? How does it determine what's "better"?

[celest atlas]

and how does it deciede

haha 😉

[sacred gate]

Oh, or maybe you mean like Cyst < Sack < Pustule or something?

[patent canyon]

each item has some kind of value

[sacred gate]

uuuh

Seems dubious.

[patent canyon]

so like you open a chest and roll some shit cards

with lucky you get a more rare card

game doesnt drop shit cards but drop more rare one

[orchid cosmos]

what is it basing the value off of?

poe tradE?

[patent canyon]

no

rarity of item

game has no idea how much its worth

[sacred gate]

Oh, ok, that would make some kind of sense. Only some though.

[patent canyon]

lucky in all poe sense just means roll twice, pick better

[orchid cosmos]

so your saying, theoretically if i get a lucky div card chest, doctor drops yet it rolls again and getrs a more rare (but less valuable card) it will not drop doctor

[sacred gate]

Yes, but "better" is not really well-defined on items/currencies in an open market

"rarer" is well-defined, but it might not be "better" for the player...

[patent canyon]

true

but generally more rare items are also worth more

[orchid cosmos]

not always though

[patent canyon]

for currency is always true

[orchid cosmos]

how dumb woudl that be if it wasnt true

[sacred gate]

Blessed orbs are rarer than chaos for instance...

[patent canyon]

yup so if you roll lucky on that chest you will get blessed over c

[sacred gate]

which are worth less than c

That was my point

[orchid cosmos]

are there visual effects for lucky?

[patent canyon]

nope

but either way if you roll wisdom scrolls and blessed, lucky will drop blessed that is worth more than wisdom so....

[orchid cosmos]

thanks for the info, ima head out now

always nice to learn something new

[sacred gate]

Yes, I understand what you mean, just saying rarer does not mean better, even for currencies. That's all.

[vernal stream]

got me some more after i made profit earlier too

[patent canyon]

true true

[sacred gate]

Hmm, I just noticed that you do not collect resources for blight enemies that are killed far from you... Why are you being punished for doing a good job at tower defensing? 😦

(also, portals can still definitely spawn on top of the pump, so that's fun 😄 )

[autumn snow]

oils of 5 t11/t12 blighted maps

wrong order lul

http://prntscr.com/p97ys9

[patent canyon]

reasonable amount

how many decks?

[autumn snow]

20

the sample is small though

[patent canyon]

yeah

especially since i know they drop in higher quant on reds

[autumn snow]

oil drops are much better compared to yellows

also essence chests can drop shrieking

currency can drop master carto

got a ex but that's rng...

not sure if it's worth the extra 20c per map

[patent canyon]

its a gamble but yellows seem to be 100% profit

and it would hurt a lot more with losing red map when portal drops on pump

[autumn snow]

yeah

like I said

profit per yellow is 30c on average

[vernal stream]

1st map from the pic of maps i posted lol

[autumn snow]

I dropped two today

from 30 blighted maps

one from loot explosion and one from currency chest

[vernal stream]

3 ex drops from 7 maps so far

did 6 in the morning, and starting round 2 of maps right now

[autumn snow]

lucky af

[vernal stream]

yea, my other buddies get triggered too when i keep posting ex drops in their discord channel lol

lol

[autumn snow]

[patent canyon]

hmmm why i dont have any sulphite to run for the evening?

ohh right.... blighted maps only

[vernal stream]

lol ikr

[autumn snow]

I'm done with blighted lul

[patent canyon]

i am just doing them since there isnt really anything else to do in league

[autumn snow]

like every league

[patent canyon]

and likely as soon as i am done with final gear i'll just quit unless i can think of some cool build to try

[autumn snow]

I get bored faster and faster with each passing league

[patent canyon]

yeah same

[autumn snow]

3.9 is supposed to be a big expansion

like betrayal

let's hope they add some interesting new stuff :/

[patent canyon]

hopefully

[warped mountain]

ive gotten jack shit from my blighted maps

am I doing it wrong?

I've done like 5 t15s after the buff and gotten absolute dog shit

I make so much more just from selling them for chaos

[patent canyon]

reds are gamble

you can make a bank or lose a lot but usually they always net profit

[autumn snow]

reds are indeed pure gamble

[warped mountain]

are white/yellow more worth it?

Cause ive been selling those too

[autumn snow]

they are away too expensive for the loot they give

[warped mountain]

xd

[autumn snow]

you almost always profit from yellow

I had a profit of around 30c per map (bought them at 25c each)

profit per hour is quite poor though

the highest you can reach is probably 350-400c/h

[warped mountain]

unless you get insanely lucky

[autumn snow]

obviously

[patent canyon]

thats not poor profit for time spent

[warped mountain]

Granted atm im just chain running uber elders

[patent canyon]

but they are a bit boring after few

[warped mountain]

esp with a zombie build

[autumn snow]

that's the highest :p

[warped mountain]

i just sit here and watch netflix

[autumn snow]

I'm getting 250c/h

[warped mountain]

I find just running t16s -> uber elder -> shaper -> t15s/elder t16s, rinse repeat makes me more profit than blighted maps

and just selling the blighted maps I get from doing the map blights

[patent canyon]

yeah i usually do fossil farming but this league the wall drop seems to be scuffed af

[autumn snow]

i'm doing elder ugs

tired of blighted

[vernal stream]

im at 228c/hr, then again i just finished my 2nd map

[dusty umbra]

blighted t14 drop nice, 70c lol

[dusty umbra]

Ran the t7 blighted map, i guess worth it

[autumn snow]

@dusty umbra yellow is

that's some crazy lucky drops tho

[dusty umbra]

196 quant tho

so i guess so especially on harby/ex drop

[autumn snow]

quantity doesn't do anything to chests

[dusty umbra]

Doesn't map quanity affect it?

Not gear one

[autumn snow]

shouldn't?

[dusty umbra]

I know gear quant doesn't affect chests, no clue about map quantity

Either way agreed on pretty nice fucking drops

[autumn snow]

map quantity affects strongboxes but not all

[dusty umbra]

my last one just paid for it

[autumn snow]

Like chests, increased Item Quantity from gear does not increase the number of items dropped from a strongbox. However, map quantity and the number of players do increase the number of items dropped from most strongboxes.[4] The only exception is the Cartographer's Strongbox, where the number of players does not increase the amount of map drops.

[dusty umbra]

sold the red one that dropped

[violet nymph]

what does it actually mean from the anointing when it says your towers. does that mean if im the map host or the person that built the tower.

[vernal stream]

from 1 map : )

[livid hare]

Nice

[slender temple]

@autumn snow interesting. so having extra players nearby for chest opening is good

[grand trellis]

how does anoiting replacement on the cowl works?

[rose pasture]

Are towers actually doing any damage?

[wary smelt]

yea

just gotta use buffs + slows with em

[deft girder]

Temporal tower + frost wall towers is a pretty good combo.

Then you can have fire or lightning tower do the damage. They'll have an eaiser time hitting them.

Or scout tower. (Minion Right upgrade)

I forgot what the post time was. 👀 wew

[violet nymph]

Hod do i get red Niko map as quest?

[mortal yarrow]

Do red maps @violet nymph

[patent canyon]

since performance in blight maps is alright why dont i try spamming scout towers, that doesnt sound as bad idea
....
it was a bad idea.....

[mortal yarrow]

Git gud hvande

[patent canyon]

tell that to my poor i3 cpu and over 300 drones basting stuff on screen

[mortal yarrow]

Git gud i3 cpu

[sacred gate]

Uh, I just understood that blight unique monsters don't have a red dot on the map, but some kind of small yellow-ish icon. Any reason to make them less visible than other monsters? 😮

[patent canyon]

they are more visible that way

giant ass walking yellow dude on minimap

[sacred gate]

Uh, it's like tiny on my minimap. Like, smaller than portals for instance. It just kind of blends in.

Anyway, I'm just whining, fairly certain not understanding that killed me several times x)

[mortal yarrow]

Aww

[midnight phoenix]

its really obvious on the minimap once ur looking for it

and u should be

cos every other mob is basically free

[wet plaza]

still kinda weird decision to make the boss a more muted color than mobs

should be switched around imo

[patent canyon]

well it still kinda stands out with yellow is sea of red too

[celest atlas]

damm blight map drops are so rare and they prices seems to skyrocket

[dusty umbra]

im just selling reds and running yellows

[celest atlas]

i done all my maps i had .. but getting a new on from t t12.t15 maps is very rare

[topaz linden]

@autumn snow that's a lot of c/hr , how do you achieve taht?

[autumn snow]

@topaz linden ?

[topaz linden]

I read a bit up that you were at 250c an hour

[autumn snow]

you buy blighted maps at 25c or lower

you use chisel + alchemy + 3 teal

and you do them as fast as you can :p

[topaz linden]

Fair enough

any specific tier?

[autumn snow]

t6+

you can easily profit 30c+ per map

[topaz linden]

THANKS

CAPS*

ok

[sand meadow]

Can i know what map is easier to learn the mechanics first?

I tried a t1 arcade back when i started the league and i lost miserably but now i'm rather beefed up and wanna try

[vernal stream]

Primarily people want maps with choke points, so prob maps like, cage, alleyways, pen, haunted mansion etc. Maps with closed rooms.

I been farming T1 to T5 maps. Made about 6 ex just yesterday doing that.

[grizzled moth]

grotto

[halcyon veldt]

red tier blighted maps don't seem worth it

but yellows are great

[quaint topaz]

red ones are just way too expensive

best chance at the unique chest though

although i have yet to see any blight unique in 30+ maps

[halcyon veldt]

i ran a few of them, cost me about 100c total per map

made around 75c each map, except when i got silver oil, then i made a profit of about 30c

[dusty umbra]

@quaint topaz helmet dropped for me even pre-patch in some low tier one

[topaz linden]

What happens if I add oils on the map device alongside a map?

[quaint topaz]

nothing

[topaz linden]

what did cake mean here? https://discordapp.com/channels/174993814845521922/552615024393322506/625323496997781504

[patent canyon]

oil the map

[topaz linden]

Oh, with the NPC?

[patent canyon]

but you dont add oils in map device, you anoint it like item

[topaz linden]

thanks a lot

[autumn snow]

yep

@patent canyon I think the teal actually doesn't reroll chest loot

it rerolls chest type

[patent canyon]

so basically more armour nodes since they are better?

: ^)

[autumn snow]

:p

it kinda makes sense

crimson could be really good on a t13+

[tame osprey]

What do the little tower symbols at the bottom mean?

Are those towers weaker for that encounter?

[patent canyon]

resistant to that damage type

[vernal stream]

The symbol above a portal frame = miniboss, within the frame = resistence type.

Well there goes 140c.

[quaint topaz]

white blighted maps are quite mediocre compared to yellows

tier 6-8 have been the best value for me

[autumn snow]

agree

yellows can also drop opal

[autumn snow]

it seems map item quantity increases the chest drop

[vestal escarp]

anyone want to run blighted maps together?

also, what's the best oil to anoint maps with?

[autumn snow]

most people use teal

I'm testing violet now

[vestal escarp]

violet seems interesting

[violet nymph]

How tmake my courency public when i want to sell like 2000 of it?

[vestal escarp]

just hit an exalt in my first yellow blighted map run @autumn snow

and a hoarder, + 10 stacked decks

[quaint halo]

i wish blighted maps actually dropped

[vestal escarp]

harb orb, ancient orb, some fossils

[sand meadow]

If my pump is damaged, does reward get affected?

[autumn snow]

no

[mortal yarrow]

As long as it lives

[vestal escarp]

hmm, two black oils, and an opal oil

[thorny vortex]

do imbuing towers buff your minions? or just players as it says?

[vernal stream]

they buff towers also

you can see the little buff circle appear at the base of a tower, when within the buff circle

[sand meadow]

Is there a perfect build for blighted maps...?

wuts phys tower o_o

cheap cc meaning tier 1 fire/ice/seismic?

[cold bridge]

for blighted maps is there a combination of towers that is generally considered best? currently i just tend to spam fire with 1 or 2 empower ones

[patent canyon]

it literally doesnt matter what you use

everything works

[deft girder]

People seems to find high range towers easier for melee characters. Like scouts or meteor towers. Temporal + Ice Cage is pretty good for CC.

Have ice cage behind temporal so it can catch any unique enemies that walk by your towers alive.

[cold bridge]

ok thanks, and should i just chisel + alch + oil blighted maps? vaal them?

[deft girder]

I have a feeling vaaling would brick them to a normal map. I'm not sure.

[cold bridge]

yeah was thinking same

[patent canyon]

you cant vaal after using oils

and you cant oil corrupted so.... no vaaling

[cold bridge]

ok ty

vaal frags will help with loot explosion?

[slender temple]

@violet nymph you need a premium tab

[autumn snow]

@cold bridge you can't use fragments with blighted maps

[violet nymph]

still spawning proximity shield mobs?

[mortal yarrow]

They never stopped?

[violet nymph]

oh i thought it said in recent patch notes that they removed em from blight

ah it's just that they can't overlap now

[mortal yarrow]

Yep

[cold bridge]

the ring anointments if i do the same, they stack yeah?

[vestal escarp]

I've run some yellow blighted maps, and I think its safe to say that they ARE profitable.

so much stuff drops from them that you're bound to get at least your investment back

[serene summit]

What's a good tower build if you're running a saboteur with fire and flamethrower trap as primary dps?

I'm not at maps yet

[patent canyon]

just build whatever

if you feel like you cant kill everything alone then focus on cc towers

[vestal escarp]

violet oils feel the best I think, but sustaining them is a problem

[patent canyon]

i just pop one of those every time to make sure it just goes above 100 quant

[violet nymph]

@slender temple i do have premiu mtabs

[autumn drift]

guys

today this is my second time when I do blight in maps

my full party crahes

1 one 1

when a certin monster

moves by

lol

[dusty umbra]

one dropped finally so let's go

[dusty umbra]

brokeeven due to stacked decks i guess

[solemn fox]

I have not seen a blight map drop in two days

[kind sigil]

3 for me from 1-90

[warped mountain]

just afk'd a yellow map

yellow blighted map* lol

pretty sure I could afk a higher tier, but im not sure up to what

I mean when I do t15s i stand there too, but I build some stuff

[sand meadow]

is soloing a white blighted map better for beginners?

[mortal yarrow]

Well define better and beginners

[sand meadow]

Uh... I failed to do white blighted maps before

overwhelmed somewhere

to successfully clear one blighted map i mean

Im not looking at profit yet

[mortal yarrow]

I would practice in normal maps at high tier cause it will have more lanes then

It should help you learn how to build and such

[sand meadow]

like red maps?

so far i only found and moderately cleared a 7 lane on a t11

i followed Pohx spamming fire towers and 1 empowering that can cover at least 2 fire towers xP

[mortal yarrow]

Well do you feel like you lack damage?

Or time to deal it

[sand meadow]

I dunno... never really played minion builds

[mortal yarrow]

Hmm

I would try use slow towers and fireballs

[sand meadow]

Uh.. which slow?

[mortal yarrow]

Physical to temporal towers

[sand meadow]

Alright

Will try to learn in redmapz

[mortal yarrow]

Glgl

I dont use them xd

Guess its cause i dont need them

[sand meadow]

I dont know how strong the empower tier 1 is :x

because i usually try to fit as many fire/ice towers around

and then smack a lv 1 empower if it can cover all

if not then ive to upgrade the empower to cover all towers nearby

wuts double anointed

cramped layouts... i just checked poe.ninja and find the cheapest xPP

first one i ever did was an arcade though

Is it actually better though?

I'm a mass summoner so corners arent really good for the minion AI :c

[mortal yarrow]

Or be poison and watch your 1 hit kill an entire lane

I mean i gave my advice earlier

[sand meadow]

Hm guess i'll have play more maps xP

[mortal yarrow]

Just practice where to place towers and such tbh

[sand meadow]

Alrighty

Thanks @abstract cipher & @mortal yarrow c:

[mortal yarrow]

Npnp

[sand meadow]

If lets say most of my portals are resistant to fire tower... would spamming ice towers + wtv support be advisable..?

i thought if the icons below showed a symbol it meant that they will take lesser damage/effect from that tower...?

😅

[mortal yarrow]

Ebrl be nice

There is weakness but its insignificant most of the time

So use whatever

[deft girder]

Just have two dps towers. 😛

Portal can't be resisted to both.

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon you alive hvande?

@patent canyon and so the fun begins

[patent canyon]

Very much dead inside

Gl on drops

[mortal yarrow]

i wish i could run them rn

installing BL3 so net is rip

all are 100-130+ quant with 4 lucky chests

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon wanna see the loot from 5 130% arcades when im done running them?

[patent canyon]

yh

[mortal yarrow]

aight imma ping in a hour or so

[gloomy fable]

@mortal yarrow i wana see it too))

[mortal yarrow]

i find blighted maps so much more enjoyable compared to legion tbh

@patent canyon as you can see im taking this 100% seriously

[patent canyon]

dont upgrade them to drones

[mortal yarrow]

good idea

[patent canyon]

that all i have to say

[mortal yarrow]

drones you say

[patent canyon]

actually wont be bad on this map since they dont have line of sight

[mortal yarrow]

yeah

[patent canyon]

i did it with lighthouse with pump on top

[mortal yarrow]

end result

xd

[patent canyon]

i think by this time i tried all towers as single builds

cold towers only were rather interesting

[mortal yarrow]

yeah i can imagine

its more fun doing it no towers tho

actually feels like im doing something then

its sad you cant sac frag them

[patent canyon]

and i am here trying to do as little as possible and just try to solo with towers

[mortal yarrow]

well

then i would just build fire towers

got double attont meteor

annoint*

[patent canyon]

you dont even need that spam

flamer, shock nova and temp tower can hold connection of 3 lanes alone

[mortal yarrow]

yep

its just fun looking at xd

[patent canyon]

ye thats what i am doing most of the time

i just want to see towers doing stuff

and its rather ironic when i tried maximizing this poison build to not feel like DoT build and go zoom zoom but instead i stand still in some random tower defence arena

[mortal yarrow]

me

20 ex poison build

farming T1 arcade blighted

xd

[patent canyon]

i have no idea how much my bow is worth

there is literally 0 on market to compare it with, the closest is darkscorn for 5ex

[mortal yarrow]

got a 6 ex dagger on too

tbh the loot has been very disappointing so far

if im being completely honest

@patent canyon

@gloomy fable

kinda meh loot

time to sort it and see if something decent dropped

10c in div cards

9 stacked so another 27c

5c in oils zz

this is the pure currency

still got a few left

time to run 5 more

@patent canyon did you die

[vernal stream]

another fun day to grind..

[mortal yarrow]

its fun tbh

[vernal stream]

the ... is because i work today lol

[mortal yarrow]

ah

feelsbad

tbh i enjoy this a lot more than legion

[quaint oyster]

blight rewards kinda crappy? but they're fun. I keep doing blights in t16s and I barely get anything

[mortal yarrow]

i mean

T16 is very high risk

if you looking for profit

[quaint oyster]

I keep completing them tho

but the rewards are legit poopy

[mortal yarrow]

blighted maps

or just blight in T16

[quaint oyster]

both are poopy

[mortal yarrow]

not really

[quaint oyster]

I did a few t16s blight maps

legit poopy for the amount of time wasted

[mortal yarrow]

you mean the 5 min?

[quaint oyster]

could have ran just bunch of maps

yeah the one that covers the whole map

[mortal yarrow]

yeah

i get 40c a map

[quaint oyster]

the thing is getting 2 forges is pretty much 40c

[mortal yarrow]

same rewards this is just more fun to me

@patent canyon another 5 maps of rewards

made 200c

[patent canyon]

nice

[mortal yarrow]

time for some BL3

[wary smelt]

so what lvl blight maps u guys run?

[velvet palm]

Negative 3

[mortal yarrow]

1-6

whatever is cheapest on the market

[celest atlas]

are there still cheap blilght maps ?

[patent canyon]

whites and yellows are still cheap

[celest atlas]

hthe drop from the normal map blight for a blight map is so damm low ...

[mortal yarrow]

not rly

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon wanna buy some prophecies exile

[harsh rivet]

Are blight encounters timed? Sometimes Everything just suddenly dies and it ends, not much climax

[mortal yarrow]

there will come x amount of enemies and then they stop coming

[harsh rivet]

What I mean is.. sometimes I don't kill them all, they just vanish

[mortal yarrow]

idk

never really notice

[harsh rivet]

oh, I've almost lost it a few times and they just vanish and I win the encounter

[mortal yarrow]

hmm

[autumn snow]

they vanish when you kill most mobs after the 5 min

[harsh rivet]

I must be a bad judge of time then, These usually seem to only take 1-2 minutes (Act 8)

[autumn snow]

talking about blighted maps

[celest atlas]

why does it say annointment will remove current one .. it doesnt luck like it has any !? or will it remove rarity ?

[autumn snow]

@celest atlas it has quantity oil

violet

[celest atlas]

so this does not show as any real enchanment so doing so i would loose a lot IQ

[dusty umbra]

3x teal

Most likely

[autumn snow]

it's violet

[dusty umbra]

Woops ya 5 pack 30 quant ine

One*

[celest atlas]

teal always says how many lucky chests

ok than i rather keep it that way 🙂

[autumn snow]

btw

it seems lucky chests rolls chest type

not chest loot

[celest atlas]

you mean the chance of getting better chest rather than getting bette rloot form them?

[autumn snow]

yeah

[celest atlas]

but it should be the same as other luck

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Luck

just rolling twice?

[autumn snow]

yep

most likely

[tough musk]

Just to triple check that I'm not crazy and PoE isn't explaining things poorly. Every blight mob I've seen regardless of rarity and type (and I just did a Blight encounter to check) has 'Resists Elemental Damage' this does mean that all blight mobs have plus some percent to all their elemental resistances, and not something weird like extra life but it's showing the wrong modifier, right?

[autumn snow]

@tough musk most monsters have some sort of elemental resistance

[celest atlas]

you could still il te fire resists with fire .. but it takes longer ...

[autumn snow]

it's not just blighted mobs

[tough musk]

Yes...I know this. But every blighted mob, regardless of type, looks like it has all eleres. I just want to make sure that's the case before starting my second characer of the league.

[patent canyon]

i mean they are just regular map mobs and those have all res too

just instead the specific mobs get immunity to some kind of effect

[violet nymph]

I heard that tornado shot is bugged with the blight encounters? have the GM's or anyone said anything about it

[sacred gate]

I've seen someone with an anointed talisman... How is that possible? Aren't talismans always corrupted?

[silver kettle]

You can turn an amulet into a talisman with Jorgin's bench in a research safehouse

It keeps all its existing mods except for the implicit

[sacred gate]

Ooh, I see. Thanks

[wary smelt]

if u annoint be4 u turn into talisman it keeps the anoint

[wet scroll]

Which is the best tower to kill bosses?

[spice cipher]

CC

[true raptor]

So if i make anpoint a node to my necklets then than the node i already have specked in dosnt count?

[slow lake]

Cant have 2 same yea

Well you can have but only 1 works

[midnight phoenix]

Worlds best primordial blocks

No shitty boss

[velvet palm]

Buh muh interactive boss

[patent canyon]

well

the trailer of that boss fight looked dope

but then you enter the map yourself and....

[velvet palm]

The boulders do no damage though

Some boom the boss makes does plenty though

[frank hound]

you get fucked if you get hit by the big channeling thing he does, generally speaking a 1 shot in a buffed up map

[velvet palm]

Ye

Map sux

Too much backtracking

[fast spoke]

clear the pads as you go

no backtrack

[celest atlas]

T8 Graveyard map .. hmmm brought for 30c

[wary smelt]

get rid of everything below 2 c

[autumn snow]

@celest atlas what software is that

[slender temple]

It's an app iirc

The mask at the bottom can be worth alot

[celest atlas]

yepp around 20

poeprices app

[autumn snow]

I made some pretty huge gains with 10 t14 blighted at 80c each

lucky tho

2ex + golden oil + 2 silver + sporeguard

[wary smelt]

im too poor to buy blighted maps

still need 4 ex to finish my bow

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon time for stupid test

195% quant arcade blighted map

super underwhelming as expected

[wary smelt]

does quant even affect the box drops?

[mortal yarrow]

nope

just the basic drops

just wanted to see the 100 quant difference

[patent canyon]

honestly i am almost 99% certain it does effect the box drops

only player quant doesnt

[autumn snow]

same

[vast gazelle]

fuck i wanna make an autobomber so bad

its probably garbage for blight tho

[wary smelt]

do it if u want to turn poe into powerpoint

[autumn snow]

halp

i'm addicted to blighted gambling

[wary smelt]

im too poor to do blight gambling

[patent canyon]

i was an addict

now i am bored to death by poe

[autumn snow]

i'm wasting all my currency with t13+ blighted maps lul

nothing else to do anyway

[wary smelt]

ill probs stop playing soon after i finish crafting my minion bow/chest

[autumn snow]

yeee

golden oil

I'll stop when I finish my challenges

[wary smelt]

im only 23 challanges done

idk if i wanna go for wings

they dont look that good

[autumn snow]

well

I need the wings to complete my derpy set

[patent canyon]

wings that act like some rigid attachment looks ugly so i wanted to just keep going and finish gear set after getting 24 chal portal but after noticing perfect ailment + poison quiver would only be 4% more damage i lost motivation and after realising better bow would cost something like 30ex to make i just lost all interest in league...

[autumn snow]

jeez

so many fucking jewels

[spice cipher]

I’m gonna roll my necro to maps, gear her cheaply, spend all my currency on blights maps and call it a league

[vast gazelle]

call me slow but i still wanna do shaper and get challenges

[spice cipher]

This is the no motivation league lol

[vast gazelle]

yeah

i dont have a huge fire under my ass or anything

i just want at least 24 challenges

[spice cipher]

The ‘challenges’ are boring too

[vast gazelle]

i havent looked at them

i just wanna get it out of the way for the mtx

im also a bit in this to see how far i can minmax my main char this league

[spice cipher]

Whatever keeps you playing!

[autumn snow]

that's what I am doing

[vast gazelle]

😄

[vast gazelle]

are there any good life or other defensive nodes that dont cost an arm and a leg in oil to annoint

would disciple of the unyielding be worth anointing 🤔

as someone who doesnt use endurance charges rn

i guess devotion would be okay and kind of affordable

or thick skin

or cruel prep

hm

[autumn snow]

crystal skin?

[vast gazelle]

yeah that would be good

hm

if im going acro...

probably worth

sanctum of thought would be good if i wasnt assassin

oh perfect

10% ms 5% dodge and phasing is hella qol and defense from an anoint

just tested

cheap af too

[spice cipher]

Ooh damn that super cheap!

Clear , amber , violet ?

[celest atlas]

hmm how would Deathmark work .. if i had it on 2 setting .. would it be to different skills to cast or could i cast 1 DM and both groups woulds have the bonus and attack

[autumn snow]

@celest atlas 1 DM and both would benefit from it

10 blighted t14, total cost: 988c

revenue of at least 1526c

profit was at least 538c

53c profit per map

[slender temple]

Not bad

Risk level ? Did you fail any?

[autumn snow]

risk level is high if you don't have high single target

no, I didn't fail any

[slender temple]

Nice

[autumn snow]

overall, it's pretty good

depending on your luck you can get big rewards

[slender temple]

I need to do merciless lab and ulab then my dps will skyrocket maybe I'll try a blighted map

[autumn snow]

I got the unique armour + 2 ex from the other 15 t14 I did earlier

[slender temple]

Nice

[autumn snow]

something like 6-7 ex profit in 15 maps

[slender temple]

Blights seem like monoliths but slower . Albeit you always get to kill everything in blights

[autumn snow]

it's far from glacier farming eh

biggest problem about this is that you have to buy the maps

[slender temple]

Yeah

[deft girder]

Can you scarab unqiue on blighted map?

[spice cipher]

nah you cant do shit with blighted maps beside chisel, alc, and oil

[acoustic lark]

can you annoint talismans?

[pseudo hull]

they r ccorrupted arent they?

[acoustic lark]

Damnit

[valid bloom]

im nearing red maps

where do i get blighted maps?

[midnight phoenix]

Oil nodes

[next epoch]

@acoustic lark In theory, you can convert amulets to talismans after anointing them. In practice, you're taking a pretty big risk by doing that, since you might get a talisman base that's completely inappropriate for the rest of the mods on the item

[valid bloom]

amazing

i complained here and got my first blighted map just now

10/10, ggg

[robust rivet]

lol @valid bloom

[acoustic lark]

what are the two best support spectres?

i got a chieftan for frenzy charges, not sure what i should use for the other one

[compact junco]

carnage chieftain for frenzy, host for power, ruins hellion for damage and defense

i was running 2 carnage, 1 host and 1 ruins

[acoustic lark]

only three spectre slots here, so i'm thinking of two carnge and one host

[compact junco]

sounds fine

[shy crater]

do final upgraded towers still count as their base towers as well? i.e. if I have a fireball tower enchant and upgrade to flamethrower does that tower still get the bonus?

[frank hound]

not as far as I know

[acoustic lark]

how many charges can minions have?

[patent canyon]

3

[fossil spindle]

So i'm unclear on one thing with blighted map : is the number of monsters spawned fixed in advance, or do you get more the faster you kill them ?

Cause that'd massively change my gameplay

[patent canyon]

its set amount

each wave has x from each portal and there is x waves

if you want to speed it up you can kill all mobs from portal, that will speed up next w from it

[fossil spindle]

Ok so there is no point in an agressive playstyle, camping the spawn points etc ?

[patent canyon]

i mean... there kinda is..

but not worth it at all

like final wave from port wont start spawning untill there is 1m left or so

so if you kill all but last wave at 3m remaining portal will be idle for 2mins

[fossil spindle]

Ok thanks, I was asking cause sometimes I see like 20 boss icons but i'm under the impression that when the blighted map finished I had only killed 7 or 8

So I was thinking that it was a legion encounter thing

But thanks man, now I can take my time and build the tower without feeling bad :d

[dusty umbra]

T13 blighted map drop

to sell or run it

[quaint topaz]

anybody know what the buff towers do to your towers exactly?

[patent canyon]

various buffs to specific towers and generic + damage

but there isnt specific documentation yet

[wary smelt]

i always like building 2-3 buff towers in a area

t4 aura tower is really nice expecially if u buff it with t3 buff

[quaint topaz]

i've been doing the scout tower spam strat

and wondering if i should add in some buff towers or just go all in

[patent canyon]

buff towers

they are very cheap to build since you only need T3

and give very nice buffs in radius

[autumn snow]

@dusty umbra average profit per map is 150c :x

[dusty umbra]

[autumn snow]

That's what I got after doing 30 of them and excluding some lucky drops

[dusty umbra]

Since im on shift i haven't sold it yet

[autumn snow]

Better sell it if you are only going to do one

Grimro has some spreadsheets with data

[dusty umbra]

Already anointed with 2x purp + 1x crimson

[autumn snow]

It's pretty similar to my results

Violet seems to affect chests

[dusty umbra]

well we'll see when i get a moment to do this

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon almost 40 challenges

[patent canyon]

nice

[mortal yarrow]

done 35 guardians/shapers today

a good motivation to do that one is wanting celestial hideout

[autumn snow]

I'm at 25

Never did 40, never will

[mortal yarrow]

well

im so close

so why not

[dusty umbra]

@autumn snow i guess worth

[patent canyon]

my highest was 37 challs done

[dusty umbra]

That's from that map above

[patent canyon]

thats with 36 and then 2 months in proccing some cancer rng one

[dusty umbra]

2x purple + 1 red

[autumn snow]

Lucky

Got 2 golden from 30 maps

[dusty umbra]

golden + opal too

bestiary scarab 20c/twice ench 12c

[wet plaza]

22/40

[dusty umbra]

Either way even without golden oil it paid for itself

only issue is time spent looting lol

[quaint topaz]

what oils to throw on t13s

redx1 purplex2?

[dusty umbra]

3x purple is pretty popular

[quaint topaz]

what tower setup did you use

i'm RF so its pretty tough for me

[acoustic lark]

@autumn snow what tier maps?

glacial cage + meteor towers is a good combo

temporal towers is good to splatter at chokepoints

[autumn snow]

@acoustic lark t13+

at least t13 for golden oil

[acoustic lark]

does the synthesis boss drop anything good?

just failed a fight at t15 with him

[dusty umbra]

@quaint topaz as far as towers doesn't matter for me since i kill everything anway

arcs/ice cage/slows/max upgr minion

[autumn snow]

@acoustic lark depends what boss

[acoustic lark]

twisted synthete

[autumn snow]

the normal ones can drop circle, storm gift and mark

at least 10c I guess?

[acoustic lark]

oh

[quaint topaz]

the rings can be very powerful

herald of ash especially

[wary smelt]

best item sythesis boss can drop is bottled faith which is 20ex + i thinl

not sure which one drops that though

[patent canyon]

cortex

[wary smelt]

ah...

the big boss

[patent canyon]

wouldnt be 20ex for ez boss

[quaint topaz]

mainly because its the rarest drop from the rarest boss that you can only get from zana missions

[wary smelt]

just leave it at lvl 3

that + the empowered time slow tower stacks

if ur in a choke toss in a flame thrower tower it clears everything

i dont use fire/ice anymore cuz of challanges or else id keep doing that for chokes

i love placing down a t4 aura tower near pump

cuz of the move speed increase

lets u move from 1 side to the other faster

man tempted to buy a bunch of lower tier blight maps

[mortal yarrow]

@patent canyon i have found a way to make blighted maps more fun

[patent canyon]

play elevator music?

[mortal yarrow]

selling them

like selling the runs

selling 1-15 challenge

[patent canyon]

that not fun

[mortal yarrow]

it is cause i get to see them die 2-3 times a map

[patent canyon]

ok thats fun

[mortal yarrow]

exactly

[wary smelt]

does that quant increase from other players work?

[patent canyon]

nope

[mortal yarrow]

its just easier to sustain if you bring more because they pay

[patent canyon]

yeah but you profit without too and i have PTSD from rotas when you needed it for masters

[mortal yarrow]

its not even rota

its just me inviting people

and getting free money doing exactly what i did before

[patent canyon]

same thing and it is annoying to manage

[mortal yarrow]

not rly tbh

they enter map

map ends

they leave map insta

if they touch anything they get booted

[autumn snow]

sounds

annoying

[mortal yarrow]

its surprisingly simple

[autumn snow]

simple yes

annoying yes

[sharp vessel]

blight monsters do not create corpses on death, correct?

[kindred dagger]

@mortal yarrow what do you mean by booted ? do you have anyway to prevent people for stealing your loot ?

[mortal yarrow]

i replace them

[autumn snow]

@sharp vessel they do but they quickly disappear

[kindred dagger]

I still dont understand once the guy is in your map you just cant do shit if they want to loot your map you cant do anything, you can kick of the group but that doesnt kick them from map

[mortal yarrow]

i mean thats why people pay before entering if he decides to loot i most likely wont lose much shit he just loses progress

[autumn snow]

@mortal yarrow depends on what you drop

[mortal yarrow]

i run T1 maps tho

so its unlikely something good drops most of the time

[autumn snow]

people pay for completion of t1 maps?

[mortal yarrow]

endgame grind

[autumn snow]

lol

[mortal yarrow]

mhm

[autumn snow]

imagine paying 100 carries

[mortal yarrow]

people normally do it in small doses

actually had a few people already run with me that way