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[midnight phoenix]

Ye this is why im asking about delve right

Cos the reason they gave was that +1 spec on gear is op

[delicate acorn]

wait

do boots get +1 too

[tidal frost]

there could be a 3 breakpoint yeah

[delicate acorn]

because if you can get +1 from delve boots, yikes

[midnight phoenix]

Delve boots can roll +1 spec with bound fossil if thats what ur asking

[snow cairn]

they might get +1 spec per 10 levels, could be cool

[delicate acorn]

y i k e s

[midnight phoenix]

I dont know if it will be changed i suspect so

[delicate acorn]

i think it probably will

hey on that note, i was just thinking about fossils and how some mods could overlap

like minion speed could be a speed mod and a minion mod

what if there were secret delve mods you could only hit with certain fossil combos

[snow cairn]

wait, 70% golem buff effect is kind of insane isn't it?

[delicate acorn]

golem buffs arent...that big

but it is nice

[snow cairn]

i wonder if the carion golem buff is gonna be any good

[delicate acorn]

i mean, it's flat damage to minions

i;d imagine so

"As its passive Golem buff, it grants added physical damage to all non-golem minions"

[snow cairn]

dang

[delicate acorn]

bone squaaaad

BONE SQUAAAAAD

[midnight phoenix]

No numbers yet hey

[delicate acorn]

if i wasnt so dead set on song or artist names for characters i know what my necro starter name would be

BONESQUAAAAAD

zombie and skelly mtx should be interchangable as long as you dont put the same one on both

do kinda want the statues one

summon statues is 10 christian dollars

its actually 8.27 for me

whatre you, a canuckold?

nah even they get better rates than that

ah

the scotland of australia

have you tried paying in cash

[snow cairn]

idk, message support they might be accommodating 😄

[kindred dagger]

Oh so thay anwserer cant have the same enchant twice FU 😄

[delicate acorn]

i think so

meanwhile, i think i have a list of builds i wanna do in 3.8

[kindred dagger]

No matter what i really think it will unlikely be that you have double lab enchant for the whaterever you want, but if by any chance that happen some skill have really better option.
Some spell got trash option like, like damage boost (good) and another one like increase stun ... or i dont know other "useless" buff

But some got like for range skill for exemple, damage boost and can have more projectile

Ok if you can have those 2 it would be pretty strong but very unlikely

[delicate acorn]

necro starter, respec to vd late league; infernal blow or glacial hammer once i have some currency to start a real build; poet's oen when i get tired of that; mana guardian if i luck into a bunch of currency

and then ill probably do a FOTM build, whatever that ends up being, to do challenges

[clear adder]

Body swap totems?

[delicate acorn]

unlikely

it'll be funny to see how it functions, thats about it

[kindred dagger]

bodyswap totem i tried few meme like that last league with flame dash totem and body swap, its fun but pretty trash 😂

[delicate acorn]

now that they're removing the corpse requirement and removing desecrate cooldown i imagine it'll feel smoother

[kindred dagger]

Honestly flame dash totem if there was a way for the totem to bybass the dash limit it would be really fun and cool and maybe not THAT bad

[delicate acorn]

exactly

[kindred dagger]

we'll see maybe new opi, fear the terrible totem bodyswap league 😄

bodyswap totem playrate skyrocket like cyclone in legion ?

[delicate acorn]

the problem im seeing is that it might not deal damage when it "arrives", only when it leaves

since the "arrival" damage is from the explosing corpse

i also think it might have negative synergy with necro

since totems dont count as you consuming corpses, right?

yeah thats good at least

but you lose the regen from consuming a corpse

thankfully the nearby corpse thing does seem like it'll work

We Shall See

[teal axle]

I hate that I want to play golems and the items gonna be expensive af

[tidal frost]

I miss blight leaks.

[vital idol]

Blight mechanics, just delete entire screen for 30 seconds

[tough vigil]

I mean only one of the primal jewel and the amulet are expensive tho no?

[midnight phoenix]

Well u need like 2ex of harmonies usually

[tough vigil]

Aren't the other 2 types of primordial jewel cheaper tho?

Last time i checked on them they were

[midnight phoenix]

Mights are usually expensive early

Cos they are quite rare

[tough vigil]

Oh i checked late

[midnight phoenix]

U only need 1 tho

[kindred dagger]

lol the text on the chroma card

[tough vigil]

I wonder what will be the profitable farming next league

If there is gonna be something new or it will be the same old stuff

[spice cipher]

prob whatever the most open , lowest tier maps for blight

[tough vigil]

They did say blight in higher tier maps would be more profitable tho no?

Like more lanes and all

Which would mean more rewards

[spice cipher]

well like anything that is true

but its more about sustain

[tough vigil]

Yeah i get it

Also speed

[spice cipher]

yup

being zoom zoom isnt really my thing

even in legion

[tough vigil]

Think yellow maps might be interresting this time around tho

[spice cipher]

just go with the layouts that fit your build

i personally like either very enclosed maps (toxic sewer) or open maps (glacier)

[snow cairn]

so not haunted mansion?

[spice cipher]

not really

[coarse moon]

alleyways~

[spice cipher]

idk the layout+map names too well

but i think cells and some temple layouts were also annoying to run

[coarse moon]

add shrine and plaza to that list

(lab layouts)

[spice cipher]

holy fuck yeah those S U C K

[teal axle]

I would run tropical island and jungle valley an entire league if I could

I love how nice those layouts are and they're cheery to be in

[snow cairn]

early jungle valley

so we actually get 5L staff when it's useful

maybe

[fallen pewter]

If we're considering staves useful this league.

[teal axle]

accessible 5links for casters are always good

[snow cairn]

+3 gems global

[fallen pewter]

I'd expect more people to just get 1H'ers for their global levels. Will lose 1 in the rarest case, but makes up for it with other stuff.

[teal axle]

yeah its mostly just for leaguestart

[fallen pewter]

And 6L chests are cheap.

[teal axle]

its cheap and accessible

[fallen pewter]

5L's more so

[coarse moon]

also porcupine for casters

[wary stratus]

I kinda hope there's a global +minion gems for 2h weapons and not just the new wand base

[fallen pewter]

There are, 1-2 and then a very rare +3

[wary stratus]

they only mentioned +elemental and +spell gems, not minions for 2H

[fallen pewter]

Oh minions

I doubt it

[wary stratus]

even if there isn't one I'm still not using wands, but it would be nice to have

[fallen pewter]

If only they added physical tag to all the physical based minion summoning gems.

[wary stratus]

that would be pretty wild

[fallen pewter]

I'm glad I'm not going to be pressured to craft a staff on minions however.

[wary stratus]

I'm planning on crafting a maim mace

[fallen pewter]

Staff crafting for +levels sucks.

[restive wren]

A lot of minions couldn't be given the physical tag. eg: Skeletons aren't necessarily physical because dead reckoning turns them into mages with elemental base damage

[fallen pewter]

Tags don't govern what a skill does anyways, so it doesn't really matter.

[restive wren]

the precedent is that the skill tags match the skill though, even if that doesn't need to be the case

[fallen pewter]

Skeleton mages are from VSS and a jewel, not the skill gem itself by itself.

So it does match, even if nothing in the tooltip describes phys.

The only reason it doesn't have the tag is because nothing on the gem itself has anything to do with phys, and the spell summons the minion, as opposed to the spell being the minion.

[rustic sentinel]

Was there a patch notes leak?

[fallen pewter]

Nope, just the tree data

[restive wren]

patch notes are still being written

[wary stratus]

realistically speaking they're being translated, not written

[fallen pewter]

Might be done being written by now. But definitely in the process of being localized.

[devout hound]

So the countdown is a basis or exact time?

[rustic sentinel]

It’s the deadline

[wary stratus]

I think it's just "end of work day" timer

[fallen pewter]

It's the late night estimate.

[rustic sentinel]

But 4chan saying patch notes accidentally made available early

[restive wren]

no better time than now to repost a link to the last patch notes

bonus points if you trick a mod into posting it in announcements

[silver kettle]

that would be even more heinous now with the publish feature

1800 servers follow #old-game-news

[snow cairn]

that would be kind of amazing 😄

so what happens when you delete a publish? does it pull from everywhere?

[silver kettle]

nope!

[snow cairn]

rip

[coarse moon]

oof

[rustic sentinel]

Partial patch notes leak on reddit

[snow cairn]

translated from chinese lol

https://pastebin.com/qidGAmM7 in case the reddit post goes down

[silver kettle]

we're not going to take it down

[fallen pewter]

Not even worth reading

[silver kettle]

pretty much

it's so hard to read

[fallen pewter]

Just messy garbage translation.

They decided to not do the markov chain notes this time

[silver kettle]

if you're that keen to get a couple of hour advance, go for it

[fallen pewter]

Instead we get chinese gibberish

[rustic sentinel]

I really liked flesh and stone

Why they have to nerf it

Quadrupled flame dash damage thanks ggg

[fallen pewter]

Banners were 40 range? Good to know.

[snow cairn]

oh snap death oath breaks barrels

[fallen pewter]

I was actually worried about banner range when planning to use War Banner exclusively for the raw damage on Necro.

[limpid wigeon]

"Sentinel now summoned can use jihad slams regardless of the sublimation. Only the guardian core talent can be used before."

monkas

[rustic sentinel]

Arc buff

[restive wren]

Maze feet are enchanted before defeating the enemy in the near future to gain life and magic stealing, now replaced with only life stealing. That is the best way I could imagine them describing the leech boots nerf

[limpid wigeon]

it translates crusade too jihad

actually interesting choice

[snow cairn]

so what's spiritual transformation?

[limpid wigeon]

probably bodyswap

[fallen pewter]

In other news, someone in the chinese localization department is getting fired lol.

[snow cairn]

inb4 they messed up logins again somewhere

[limpid wigeon]

also holy shit

if spiritual transformatioon actually is bodysawp

swap*

[coarse moon]

i think im gonna read that

[limpid wigeon]

looks like it does 100% of corpse damage

[coarse moon]

just for the hilarious fuck ups

[limpid wigeon]

The damage caused by the Lingshu explosion is now equal to the maximum life of the hexagram (up from 4%)

[rustic sentinel]

They buffed trap damage to compensate for shaper gloves except for lightning trap?

[snow cairn]

what's the hexagram? cuz lingshu is corpse

[limpid wigeon]

i think it means corpse

or maybe

caster?

[snow cairn]

lingshu is corpse

[limpid wigeon]

but that would be insane

[snow cairn]

oh that makes sense

i don't think yo ucan scale it with anything

so 5-8k damage is neat but nothing amazing

[limpid wigeon]

its also not something that's easy to use

you'd need to be near melee range

surely this isnt bodyswap though

[snow cairn]

very much looking forwards to poet's pen though

[limpid wigeon]

they like halved the flat damage

and added 0.1 to the cast time

[snow cairn]

well what else could it be?

[limpid wigeon]

and put the dmg effectiveness down by 30%

if those changes are accurate idk why they would even change bodyswap behaviour

since that kills it completely as a cool damage skill

[snow cairn]

it can be used on non-corpses

and desecrate has no cd

[lucid stone]

Hm?

Did I miss something?

[snow cairn]

and necro gets 50% more corpse HP

https://pastebin.com/qidGAmM7

[limpid wigeon]

chinese patch notes

"The engulfing of the spiritual pivot now increases the range effect by 300%."

[lucid stone]

Is it translated?

[limpid wigeon]

poorly

but yes

i wonder if that line means you can teleport to corpses from really far away

[lucid stone]

Parasitic Bacterium

[snow cairn]

probably

[lucid stone]

Is that a metal band name?

[limpid wigeon]

"- It is no longer necessary to use the Lingshu, but the Swallowing Lingshu can be greatly increased.

• The base range is halved."

this is a stupid change

they may as well not have done it

[lucid stone]

What even is that supposed to be

Does that count as vore

[snow cairn]

half range, 1.5x range with a corpse

[limpid wigeon]

bodyswap

[violet nymph]

looks like no changes to HoA, is that correct?

[rustic sentinel]

They nerfed elemental overload again lol

[violet nymph]

from your reading?

[limpid wigeon]

and to think of all those sad bodyswap totem theorycrafters

[restive wren]

- At the 1st level, the assisted ability increases the casting speed of the summoned creature by 25%, and the level of the level of the level of the level of the level of broke the translator lmao

[limpid wigeon]

they're going to sob when they see them

[lucid stone]

Added a basic staff type designed for high-level summoners, which can be found in the Alien Book

🤔

[violet nymph]

Atlas

[limpid wigeon]

atlas of worlds = alien book lmao

[lucid stone]

I prefer alien book.

[limpid wigeon]

nice work google

[violet nymph]

I do too

[restive wren]

I think you missed the other patch note: Atlas of Worlds renamed to Alien Book

[violet nymph]

@limpid wigeon did you see anything about HoA?

[lucid stone]

Wait, I gotta change my name to whatever butchered pyroclast mines are

[violet nymph]

I didn't but want to make sure

[tidal frost]

Fire Particle Mine

[limpid wigeon]

agony or ash

[lucid stone]

Heavy Shield Charge now uses the equipped shield, including the landscaping

wat

[tidal frost]

3d model I assume

[snow cairn]

quick scan doesn't seem to mention hoag

[limpid wigeon]

"Flame sprint

• Now deals 7 to 11 Fire damage (up from 6 to 9 points) at level 1 and up to 479 to 718 points of fire damage (up from 319 to 479 points) at level 20.
• Now 1 level causes 19 points of base fire damage per second (up from 10.9 points) and 2222.7 points per second damage (up from 599 points) at level 20."

holy shit

[lucid stone]

I want to do landscaping with my shield.

[coarse moon]

The amount of imprints required for the War of the Battle of the War of the Battle of the Wars has been compressed. The reward quality of the 2 imprints of the encounter is now equal to the past five.

what does this even mean

also ooo more damage on flame dash

[lucid stone]

`Alien illustration task change

• The way to handle daily alienation tasks has been redone.`

[violet nymph]

@limpid wigeon Agony, should've been specific

[lucid stone]

So I can now deport enemies? owo

[tidal frost]

multi way battle loot nerf

[limpid wigeon]

i cant see anything zessa

[violet nymph]

nice, really thinking about going deep delve raider with the slight buffs

[limpid wigeon]

"Viper blow

• Now 90% base damage (up from 80%) at level 1 and up to 135% (up from 130%) at level 20.
• Now when you double-arm, you will use two weapons to attack at the same time, but the total attack speed is reduced by an additional 30%.
• Each weapon is counted separately when the weapon is double-armed, and the total damage is reduced by 20%."

neat

dual strike

[tidal frost]

We also removed (at least temporarily) the last trace of the spellcaster's use of magic.

[limpid wigeon]

but viper strike

[snow cairn]

Thunderbolt

• All levels of Lightning Projector damage increased by approximately 40%.
• All levels of arc skill damage increased by approximately 20%.

is that storm call?

[limpid wigeon]

storm bolt

storm blast?

i wonder

storm burst

[eager terrace]

viper whiplash is a better name

[limpid wigeon]

i forgot the name of the skill

lol

[tidal frost]

Sometimes the cast time is now 0.7 seconds

[lucid stone]

Rediscovered flame new star mines, frozen mines, remote mine assistance, mine network assistance. Please see their overview in the Skills Stones and Auxiliary Gems Redo section.

[snow cairn]

that one isnt' nearly as bad as others 😄

did all the melee skills get absolutely gutted?

[limpid wigeon]

what the fuck is "Valentina"

[rustic sentinel]

Cyclone

[lucid stone]

Each mine has a 10% increase in the critical hit rate of nearby enemies, up to 500%.

[violet nymph]

REAL

[lucid stone]

Dang, it's capped

[violet nymph]

cyclone??

[tidal frost]

its capped at 50

25 with sabo

multiplayer reasons

[snow cairn]

does aura effect apply to mines?

[lucid stone]

At -1 level, each mine applies 1 to 2 Fire damage to nearby nearby enemies, up to 64 to 96 Fire damage. At 20th level, each mine applies 12 to 18 Fire damage to nearby nearby enemies, up to 801 to 901 Fire damage.

[snow cairn]

like from the tree?

[lucid stone]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Capped damage for pywocwastic mwines

[snow cairn]

that's insanely high though

[fallen pewter]

Everything is multiplayer capped.

[tidal frost]

its at levels you dont give a shit about

[lucid stone]

Is that cap before aura increases/

[fallen pewter]

You won't cap it by yourself.

[tidal frost]

you will if you meme aura effect

[snow cairn]

do aura effects increase the cap?

[tidal frost]

probably not.

[lucid stone]

the fire of justice

Chinese RF > English RF

[restive wren]

you'd need ~100% increased aura effect and 25 mines to reach the cap

[limpid wigeon]

welp

[coarse moon]

what in the world is a frost shooting

[limpid wigeon]

looks like melee got literally no help

[snow cairn]

ice shot probably?

[lucid stone]

Well sabo has 100% increased mine aura effect

[coarse moon]

melee got some help in the form of skill tree buffs iirc

[lucid stone]

Cap increases with gem level. 🤷

[coarse moon]

oh ice shot would make sense

[snow cairn]

melee flat damage got trashed

[coarse moon]

since LA is underneath

[tidal frost]

melee got like +6 strike range o nthe tree or some shit

[limpid wigeon]

not really

[coarse moon]

whats liquidation?

[limpid wigeon]

it got +1 for all weapon types

as far as i am aware

[snow cairn]

pulverize is 59% more up from 45% more at level 20

so not worth losing more aoe

[limpid wigeon]

yep

probably won't be used at all now

[lucid stone]

I thought pulverise was losing the more

[tidal frost]

more aoe. not more dmg

[snow cairn]

it has increased aoe

[limpid wigeon]

its losing the more area

[snow cairn]

more damage

[coarse moon]

so it got up to 59% more dmg?

still a phenomenal support then lmao

[limpid wigeon]

no

[proven wadi]

they didn't like the gem having greater aoe than the inc aoe gem so they changed it

[limpid wigeon]

because it has less attack speed

[coarse moon]

hm, ithink i forgot about the less as part

[limpid wigeon]

so now you'll just gemswap inc aoe and conc effect and put in a good dps support

[snow cairn]

people probably would've used it if it only had more aoe without the damage

[limpid wigeon]

idk about that

[coarse moon]

without the damage its just another version of inc aoe

[limpid wigeon]

only meme builds

[tidal frost]

no; you can hit oneshot trash breakpoints with it

[proven wadi]

its just ice crash, the support gem

[lucid stone]

Would have preferred if they kept the more and made inc AoE support a more.

[tidal frost]

they dont want giant AoE

thats the whole point

[limpid wigeon]

my discord zoomed in help

[restive wren]

inc aoe gets a lot of use even as an increased

[lucid stone]

</3

[limpid wigeon]

how do i fix this

[proven wadi]

like, they hate big aoe a lot

[lucid stone]

Can I at least get big AoE if I make a meme build? :<

cries in int potcg

[snow cairn]

ctrl and +/- @limpid wigeon

[tidal frost]

making it a more AoE was a mistake on their part in the first place

[limpid wigeon]

oh thank god

that was real fuckin weird dont know how i did that

[coarse moon]

yea idk why they thought it being more aoe was a good decision

[tidal frost]

str stacking AoE is the big meme you can do

[limpid wigeon]

more aoe was a good decision

[tidal frost]

not on their design philosophy

YOURS sure

[coarse moon]

it probably wouldve been fine if cyclone didnt abuse the fuck out of it

[limpid wigeon]

their design philosophy is mistaken

[tidal frost]

too bad; they code it

[coarse moon]

nah their philosophy is fine

[snow cairn]

they just super pushed cyclone

which they did beautifully

[lucid stone]

Sentinel now summoned can use jihad slams regardless of the sublimation

Jihad slams, you say? owo

[proven wadi]

I'm find with their philosophy. i dont need to hit things on the other side of the screen with melee attacks, and if i did i'd use reave

[tidal frost]

JIHAD SLAM

[coarse moon]

fixing melee shouldnt be done by making it not melee

[limpid wigeon]

i mean their current design philosophy appears to be the balance of taking turns rather than actually balancing

[tidal frost]

strikes were underpowered; and they buffed them at least

[eager terrace]

jihad slam is up there with viper whiplash

[lucid stone]

Someone quick, make that name before I take it

[snow cairn]

they didn't try to fix melee, they just wanted people to play cyclone

[lucid stone]

Jihad_Slam

[proven wadi]

I'm pretty sure cyclone was a bit of a mistake

[coarse moon]

i mean, people had been wanting cyclone to be good for a while

[tidal frost]

any stackable radius scaling is a mistake

[limpid wigeon]

a mistake they really should have seen coming

[coarse moon]

GGG just went way over on everything there

[proven wadi]

they put in a bunch of stuff like usual, without realizing cyclone would use aaaaallll of it

[snow cairn]

• The use of tied fossils to make the foot equipment no longer limits the number of spirits to +1, instead succumbing to the summoning skill level +1. Existing foot gear that already has this affix will become the new version.

specs are safe

[lucid stone]

`Liquidation

• At 1st level, the base damage is 115% (down from 91%) and up to 175% (up from 140%) at 20th level.
• Now 1 level damage adds 2 to 3 points of physical damage (down from 6 to 10 points), and level 20 maximum 56 to 85 points of physical damage (down from 169 to 254 points).`

When did PoE become an economics class

[coarse moon]

seriously what skill is that

[snow cairn]

lacerate?

[limpid wigeon]

its a counter skill

[eager terrace]

retaliation I think

[proven wadi]

aw man

[tidal frost]

RIP 500 dmg rank 30 reckoning

[lucid stone]

`- hot light

• Now 1 level causes 11.7 base fire damage per second (down from 13 points), and at level 20 causes up to 439.4 points of chaos damage per second (down from 488.2 points).`

[coarse moon]

also, unless im failing to read this right

`Magic Relief Assist (now called Enlightenment)

• In addition to the previous reduction in magic consumption, it has other features:
• Now you can get an enlightenment ball (up to 5) when you use the auxiliary skills to consume magic.
• At the 1st level, a total of 122 points of magic consumed by the assisted skill will lose all enlightenment balls, which is 800 at 20th level.
  At -1 level, each enlightenment ball increases the total elemental damage dealt by the assisted skill by an additional 5% and reaches a maximum of 8% at level 20.
  At -1 level, each enlightenment ball increases the hit rate of assisted skill by 7% and reaches 10% at 20th level.
• "Now 1% of the gem quality can increase the duration of charge by 1%.`

[proven wadi]

rip counter facebreakers

[lucid stone]

Searing Bond got the ED mod

[coarse moon]

inspiration support is gonna be great

[lucid stone]

modifiers to spell damage also apply to DoT

[limpid wigeon]

maybe thats clarity

[tidal frost]

OH MAN I LOVE SB

[proven wadi]

interesting

[restive wren]

yeah inspiration looks great if you build around low mana cost spells

[coarse moon]

nah thats inspiration not clarity

[tidal frost]

no its the new reduce mana gem

[limpid wigeon]

oh

[eager terrace]

whoa wait searing bondu

[lucid stone]

Now you can summon extra singers each time you upgrade, up to 3 at 20th level.

[coarse moon]

800 mana total to break it late game? thats so ez to stay under on quite a lot of skills

[snow cairn]

i wonder how inspiration works with channel skills

[eager terrace]

pls hurry real patch noted

[limpid wigeon]

i dont understand it

[eager terrace]

it’s 800 cumulative

[lucid stone]

What the heck is a Valentina?

[limpid wigeon]

isnt it just 50% cast speed and 40% elemental damage

[eager terrace]

backwards surge

[snow cairn]

5 casts to reach that much

then they go away after 800 mana

[limpid wigeon]

its a counter skill i think pwywo

[coarse moon]

wait wasnt it supposed to be crit and ele dmg

hm

[eager terrace]

you want lowest cast cost possible

[tidal frost]

it is crit

[snow cairn]

hit rate might mean crit rate

[limpid wigeon]

oh sure

50% cast speed would've lots anyway

i don't think its that good

[restive wren]

yeah it's increased crit chance

[lucid stone]

`Clear

• Now you and your teammates get extra magical replies, level 1 has not changed, and up to 33 points per second (up from 17.2) at 20th level.`

[tidal frost]

CASTER DAGGERz

[eager terrace]

self cast hiero will maybe want

[limpid wigeon]

now thats clarity

almost doubled

[lucid stone]

I don't see anything about purifying flame. :D

[tidal frost]

The plastics and ripper hand equipment no longer attach +1 trap throws or +1 landmine affixes.

[snow cairn]

there's a timeless jewel that lets hiero cast without mana right?

[coarse moon]

if only i felt like reserving that much mana

[lucid stone]

Uh

[tidal frost]

plastics and ripper sounds like a cool band

[limpid wigeon]

shaper and elder?

[eager terrace]

the old hiero node did that

[violet nymph]

lol @ plastics

[eager terrace]

but they can still get -50% from sanc

[limber spire]

`Summon creature speed

• At the 1st level, the assisted ability increases the casting speed of the summoned creature by 25%, and the level of the level of the level of the level of the level of`

and the level and the level and the level

[lucid stone]

Is there anything about Purifying Flame in there?

[teal axle]

Im curious what the RF change is gonna be

[tidal frost]

doubt it. didnt see it

[lucid stone]

Flat damage

[teal axle]

because its gettign changed iirc

yeah but like

what

[snow cairn]

RF can break barrels

[lucid stone]

RF now deals flat damage.

[teal axle]

will it be more damage or less

[tidal frost]

RF is 1500 base and 20% HP, isntead of 40% hp

[teal axle]

oh so its half the degen?

thats

[coarse moon]

- The plastics and ripper hand equipment no longer attach +1 trap throws or +1 landmine affixes.

[teal axle]

pretty good

[coarse moon]

this is too funny to me

[tidal frost]

so 7500 hp break even from old; before new multi mods

[teal axle]

ah

oh

thats

annoying

[lucid stone]

Wonder if I can use RF like blood rage for spells.

[eager terrace]

I’m still enjoying viper whiplash

it has layers

[violet nymph]

it's MUCH harder to level as RF then?

[tidal frost]

its easier

it does MORE before that hp

[teal axle]

it doesnt scale as hard later on

if it "hits" it'll be great

[violet nymph]

makes sense

[snow cairn]

aren't there better fire dot mods now though?

[tidal frost]

yes

multi makes rf better no matter what

[snow cairn]

it's just not best scaled by just stacking infinite life

[limber spire]

oh, they're buffing the avenger's flask prefix

was that ever even used

[teal axle]

probably not

hence buffing

[wary stratus]

only by meme crit immune tank builds

[tidal frost]

• Fossils can now be stacked. Rare fossils can be stacked in 10, and other types can be stacked in 20. Fossils can stack up to 5,000 in the currency warehouse page.

uh oh

[lucid stone]

How many charges does it grant now?

[limber spire]

5

[lucid stone]

5 per crit on you?

🤔

What would I even use that on

Soul Mantle build maybe?

[eager terrace]

what does avengers do again

[wary stratus]

assassin can use it fairly easily I guess

[tidal frost]

Note: This is a preview of some changes, the rest will be updated as soon as possible, please be patient.

[lucid stone]

When you get crit, you get charges

[snow cairn]

definitely better than markov notes 😄

[limber spire]

that replacement for reduced mana support looks pretty nice actually

[lucid stone]

P A R A S I T I C B A C T E R I U M

[limber spire]

40% more until you use 800 mana at gem level 20

[lucid stone]

Is that just for spell damage? 🤔

[eager terrace]

yeah I may mess around with self cast hiero again after totems

[tidal frost]

Added a Wisdom/Agile Auxiliary Gems - Charged Mines Assist: Each Furious Ball increases the speed of the Thunder thrown

[limber spire]

elemental damage

[tidal frost]

I need this description

[lucid stone]

So it's great for attacks?

[limber spire]

also increases hit rate by 10% per ball too

[lucid stone]

Firedust mines

[snow cairn]

hit rate means crit rate

[limber spire]

ooh

[eager terrace]

I doubt it works for attacks

[limber spire]

elemental venom gyre here i come 👀

[wary stratus]

I want to know what they're changing about flesh and stone, this translation is confusing and I don't like the idea of my defenses getting nerfed

[lucid stone]

They're making it bigger

[tidal frost]

gyre has built in chaos convert

[lucid stone]

Build gyre like scourge arrow

[limber spire]

rip

[lucid stone]

but with a claw instead of a bow

Wait...

is tremor rod in here?

[tidal frost]

non-visual = blinded

reduce attack dmg of blinded enemies

[snow cairn]

they don't cover uniques in the patch notes

[wary stratus]

" No longer reduces all damage from non-blind enemies, instead reduces attack damage from non-visual enemies."

so it no longer works against spell damage? 😦

[tidal frost]

attack might be a translation thing

not sure

[snow cairn]

it used to reduce damage from enemies outside the circle no?

[tidal frost]

outsdie nearby

[lucid stone]

Zhènchàn bàng

[wary stratus]

I mean honestly

if they make the circle HUGE or something I wouldn't care

I'd use it for the maim part potentially

[limber spire]

anyone know what this skill is

[snow cairn]

it sounds like it only applies to attacks now

[snow cairn]

desecrate

no cooldown

who knows what else

[tidal frost]

20-100 max level, always 3 corpse looks like

or whats the 5

[limpid wigeon]

oh they're leaking skill gems now?

jesus poor ggg

[lucid stone]

Some of the long sticks are now classified as battle sticks. After the distinction is made with the long stick, the battle stick will no longer attach the cast related attributes.

[delicate acorn]

warstaves ofc

[tidal frost]

3, max 5?

[limber spire]

no, i just searched up the only skill that didn't translate in the notes

[snow cairn]

maximum 5 corpses probably

[wary stratus]

weren't there already "battle sticks" lol

[snow cairn]

yikes that's harsh

[tidal frost]

no CD

[lucid stone]

The short stick is now classified as a sub-class of one-handed hammers

[tidal frost]

offerings take less bodies iirc

[limpid wigeon]

there are battle sticks but they never used to have a name

[snow cairn]

oh maybe it's the base duration

[tidal frost]

no uniques; I must know if I can wormblast

[lucid stone]

Staff, short rods, long sticks, and jewels can now be attached to the spell of the spell of the the the the the the the

[snow cairn]

patch never talks about uniques

[tidal frost]

talks about reballanced uniques

[lucid stone]

Tremor Rod and Curtain Call? owo;

[limber spire]

so the shaper is the Alien Illustrator, huh

[tidal frost]

Null inclination is what I want to know about.

[limber spire]

or is that he daily master mission

nvm it's daily masters

[lucid stone]

The labyrinth of the labyrinth before the enchantment is reduced by the cooldown of the spell, now replaced by increasing the duration of the spell, the value is the same as before. Existing items that have been attached to the enchantment will become the new version.

Glove enchant cooldowns?

Maze feet are enchanted before defeating the enemy in the near future to gain life and magic stealing, now replaced with only life stealing.

No more mana leech on boots

[tidal frost]

to be expected

[timid geyser]

What is this from? Translated patch notes or something?

[limber spire]

chinese patch notes run through google translate

[snow cairn]

https://pastebin.com/qidGAmM7

[tidal frost]

google translate chinese

partial

notes

alot of it though

[lucid stone]

The prefix "Stop" of the additional lightning damage is now renamed "Vaporization" because we have added a lot of new properties in 3.6.0, one of which has been called "sudden stop", and this name is more suitable for the newly added one. It is not easy to give an affixed name.

The "craving" and "gluttony" affixes can no longer apply the drug

No more leech on flasks?

Did anyone use those affixes?

[teal axle]

PepeSad no drug

[lucid stone]

Encrypted drug affixes can now be created only after decryption

[tidal frost]

makes sense

[lucid stone]

Unveiling flasks?

[snow cairn]

only 1 unveil necessary

was mentioned already

for flasks at least

[tidal frost]

can be created only after 1 decryption

[lucid stone]

The process attribute that reduces the magical consumption (or "El Ryan") is now divided into two separate affixes. Reduce the magical consumption of continuous humming and non-continuous singing skills, respectively. They all have three levels.

Enlighten support rework...?

[tidal frost]

no;

flat mana reduction

[lucid stone]

El Ryan

[snow cairn]

elreon

[tidal frost]

channel vs non channel

[lucid stone]

I am...

[snow cairn]

oh fuck more elreon mods

[lucid stone]

spanish guitar sounds

El Ryan

[snow cairn]

that's awful

[lucid stone]

The craft attribute of re-attaching the energy shield to the ring and necklace is now mysteriously gone.

[snow cairn]

two sets of mods for channel and non channel mods

[tidal frost]

• Immortal Syndicate specific member recipes now only need to decrypt the original half to unlock.

half as much for El Ryan

[snow cairn]

that was also mentioned already, no?

[tidal frost]

dunno the number

[snow cairn]

yeah, they said half for syndicate members

[tidal frost]

but yeah we knew it was coming

[snow cairn]

and it was more likely

to pop up

[limber spire]

smoke mine holds 3 and has a 2.5s cooldown now

it might be a nice supplement for whirling blades

[lucid stone]

The Searing Ring now has 20 to 30 magic points on the base (previously 20 to 25).

Paua ring buff

[native sun]

Anything about herald of agony

[snow cairn]

doesn't look like it

but it's not full notes

[restive wren]

@lucid stone -mana cost of skills is split into channeled and non-chanelled versions

[tidal frost]

agony scaled pretty damn well as is without new supports

[snow cairn]

Modifiers granted only by items from specific Syndicate members now require half as many unveils to learn to craft. They're also more likely to appear as one of the potential modifiers.

Modifiers only found on less common item types or that are limited to only one or two item types are much more likely to appear as unveiling options.

[native sun]

Jesus christ, prolly nerfing specters and leaving hoa

[snow cairn]

from the manifesto

[lucid stone]

- [Death conviction] Now only non-flag aura, non-mine skills do not retain magic.

No mortal conviction mines. T^T

[snow cairn]

that would suck

[timid geyser]

Sentinel now summoned can use jihad slams regardless of the sublimation. Oh no.. Machine translation is something else.

[snow cairn]

you'd only be able to throw 1 mine 😄

[lucid stone]

terror torture Water-soluble

[tidal frost]

Summon angry spirits

great name

[restive wren]

I love how "Summon Skeletons" is just called "Summon". Chinese censorship at its laziest

[wary stratus]

Frozen mines (now renamed ice cone mines)

[timid geyser]

Some of the skills that only cause constant damage, such as the fire of justice, the plague, and the aura of death caused by the death oath can now destroy barrels around the world. BIG BUFF

[wary stratus]

I want Ice Cone Mines.

[lucid stone]

`Body care

• Now the assisted ability has more damage to the abnormal state caused by melee hits (previously only bleeding and poisoning).`

WHAT KIND OF SALON IS THIS

[tidal frost]

THIS IS ABUFF

[wary stratus]

Petition GGG to use that as the real name.

[tidal frost]

dim teeth or zero shots, far shot; dim teeth

[lucid stone]

`Remote mine assistance (now renamed as chain explosion mine assist)

• At the 1st level, the total damage caused by the assisted skill is additionally reduced by 35%, and at the 20th level, the minimum is 25%.
• The mine now has a duration of 5 seconds (down from 16 seconds).
• The base detonation time for assisted skills is 0.25 seconds.
• Each of the previously detonated mines in the detonation sequence now increases the total damage of the assisted spell by an additional 5%.`

Blastchain is uncapped bois

[tidal frost]

its not party abusable

[lucid stone]

I wonder if throwing new mines resets it

[snow cairn]

isn't that double damage?

which is capped at 100%?

[lucid stone]

Otherwise 90% More damage at full stacks

[restive wren]

It probably applies a buff to nearby mines when it detonates so if the mines aren't there yet they don't get the damage.

[lucid stone]

No, that's high impact mine

[tidal frost]

where is high impact

[snow cairn]

• Added a Wisdom/Agile Auxiliary Gems - High Explosive Mine Assist: Can only assist spells or bow and scepter attacks. Replace the assisted skill with a throwing mine and use that skill to detonate. Mines cannot use continuous singing skills. The assisted ability has a chance to deal double damage when hitting an enemy based on the number of mines around the enemy.

-shrug-

[lucid stone]

I don't see high-impact.

[tidal frost]

oh impact is new; blast is rework

[lucid stone]

Oh, reworks are probably in a separate section than new

[tidal frost]

has to cap at 100% anyway

thats how DD works

[lucid stone]

I really expected high-impact to be like, you know...

A big mine that hits hard.

[snow cairn]

all mines merge

to increase damage

[lucid stone]

Yes pls

[snow cairn]

would've been hype

[tidal frost]

unique item

[lucid stone]

Awesome for ignites.

[tidal frost]

right there

mines take 10x as long to throw; deal 5x dmg

[lucid stone]

Tremor Rod~?

Shame you can't put discharge on a mine. Closest thing is vaal burning arrow

[tidal frost]

....are tehre discharge spectres.

[restive wren]

yes

[tidal frost]

theres a keystone for sharing

[lucid stone]

The flicker strike guys from lab and sewers

There's also the eternal legion jewel that gives a charge when you're hit

[restive wren]

don't think mines can have charges

[lucid stone]

Well, discharge used to work with totems.

[tidal frost]

does it not?

[lucid stone]

But you can't even support discharge with mine.

No, they fixed it.

[wary stratus]

Discharge totems were pretty overpowered

[snow cairn]

lol

[wary stratus]

they benefitted from all of your charges, but couldn't consume them because they weren't "their" charges

[limber spire]

real notes are up

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627574

[snow cairn]

pog

[tidal frost]

we did it

[limber spire]

Tremor Rod: No longer causes you to deal 35% less Mine Damage. No longer grants increased Mine Laying Speed. Now grants +2 to the level of socketed Spell gems. This does not affect existing items and cannot be Divined.

[elfin iron]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/czb1t1/have_a_look_at_one_of_the_blightspecific_uniques/

is this just me or is this op

[limber spire]

wait does this mean that tremor rod's a chase item now

the detonate twice section wasn't touched

[tidal frost]

Brutal Restraint: Can no longer modify passives with "8% increased Effect of Flasks on you", instead granting "8% increased Effect of Non-Unique Flasks on you". This affects all versions of the item.

F

[wary stratus]

rip flesh and stone nerf

[limber spire]

no herald of agony changes confirmed

[tidal frost]

didnt really need it with the general minion buffs

no tag change

[wary stratus]

hmm

looks like if you do Desecrate -> Offering it will only consume 4 corpses now, leaving 1

very nice change for Plaguebringer

[rose pasture]

patch notes up

guys

[wary stratus]

I'm irritated by this flesh and stone nerf but I guess I'll figure out something else to do with my mana

[teal axle]

are we gonna get an official PoB update before league launches

[lean lark]

it bothers me that close combat support doesn't work with venom gyre/whirling blades

[limber spire]

it doesn't?

right

[wary stratus]

they're just designing support gems for specific weapon types

[limber spire]

swords/axes only

[wary stratus]

venom gyre gets the dagger/claw one

[limber spire]

how about varunastra 👀

[wary stratus]

who knows, if I had to guess it's either a sword or "all"

[elfin iron]

wait what

flesh and stone nerf?

[wary stratus]

flesh and stone's "sand" part only reduces damage from non-blind enemy attacks now

[elfin iron]

wow

[wary stratus]

it's basically ass now, it used to be any hit that originated outside of the circle around you, period

oof

The Labyrinth Boots Enchantments which previously granted Life and Mana Regeneration if you have been Hit Recently now instead just grant Life Regeneration.

[elfin iron]

wtf

[vestal escarp]

"Upon defeating the Mastermind, the Betrayal board state is reset to a similar number of members and relationships as the starting state. However, Safehouse Intelligence is no longer reset upon defeating the Mastermind."

Now that...that's not half bad, I suppose.

[teal axle]

yeah they've basically canned mana leech everywhere lol

[wary stratus]

forced into mana regen apparently

[teal axle]

Im waiting for the PoB update so i can change my tree. I feel like golems is gonna be rough because the gems will be contested

[elfin iron]

no melee mana cost reduction?

[vestal escarp]

"You'll now appear in your Hideout (rather than Town) if you die to the Elder or one of its Guardians." THANK YOU BASED GGG

[elfin iron]

finally

[vestal escarp]

That is such a huge QoL change imo

[coarse moon]

You now gain 1 stage every 0.2 seconds while channelling, rather than based on your attack time. wow

also yay dying to elder feels less bad

[wary stratus]

about fucking time on this change: Labyrinth Traps now deal 90% less bleeding damage to Minions.

[tulip warren]

Bodyswap Now has 300% more Area of Effect if consuming a corpse.

pog

[wary stratus]

the balance manifesto said A new craftable Minion Movement Speed modifier has been added. but it isn't mentioned anywhere under "crafting changes" in the patch notes, I'm annoyed

I want to know what exactly it can be crafted on, lol

[elfin iron]

I thought the patchnotes isn't out yet

[coarse moon]

Supported skills deal 5% more Elemental Damage per Inspiration Charge at gem level 1, up to 8% at gem level 20. Supported skills have 7% increased critical strike chance per Inspiration Charge at gem level 1, up to 10% at gem level 20.

holy shit inspiration is great

[tulip warren]

40% more ele and 50% crit is aight

[limber spire]

notes have been out for like 20 minutes

[coarse moon]

considering that cd is only 44% more and it reduces cc

[teal axle]

PoB update when

[coarse moon]

id say inspiration is a lot more than just aight

[violet nymph]

tbh i skimmed and skipped through alot of the notes most of its classes i never liked anyway even the zombie stuff has always been fairly zz

[lucid stone]

40 flat es regen on occultist. Wow. Just wow.

[violet nymph]

cool !! 👆 how does that make a huge impact anywhere?

[coarse moon]

oh man 40 regen out of my 9k+

thanks ggg

[midnight phoenix]

What u dont like half a percent regen

[wary stratus]

20 regen if you have wicked ward

[coarse moon]

oh right I forgot about WW

[midnight phoenix]

Thats like nearly as good as some of the small regen nodes on the tree

[wary stratus]

welp

on the plus side with GGG killing flesh and stone for my build

I no longer need, or even want, level 4 enlighten

thanks for saving me some exalts I guess

[elfin iron]

what build?

[wary stratus]

carrion golem + raise zombie necro

[teal axle]

Im probably going to start and then farm into golems

I should find a PoB to steal for zombie/golem start

[wary stratus]

now I have to figure out what to do with these.. 2 new gem sockets

[teal axle]

you got a PoB I can borrow

[wary stratus]

once I figure out wtf I'm doing with these gems, sure

[teal axle]

I mean I dont need those, I mostly just need help with the tree

but I would appreciate it. its my weak point in build stuff and I dont have time with school to play with tree configs.

[wary stratus]

http://puu.sh/EdaHV/d5d1dfbe78.png

[teal axle]

danke

Imma assume its nice and simple, get zombies, get carrion golems, go

[wary stratus]

pretty much

I'm leaning towards meat shield zombies and feeding frenzy golems

[teal axle]

are you using the 3.8 upload?

[wary stratus]

cyclone cast while channelling desecrate spirit offering for healing and fortify + ele equilibrium

[teal axle]

I was using it and I didnt like how all the symbols were wrong lol

[wary stratus]

yeah that's a 3.8 tree

you need the updated images if yours are broken https://web.poecdn.com/public/news/2019-08-29/380_PassiveSkillTree.zip

skills-3.jpg etc

[quaint sentinel]

are you just suing the leaked tree lua file or did you convert the new one over?

[teal axle]

I was just waitin for the tree to come out

[wary stratus]

inside that thing I linked

[teal axle]

because if I leaguestart something braindead, farm up, then probably toss respecs at the wall to get where I wanted to be

[wary stratus]

the tree data is literally in there lol

[teal axle]

thanks for hookin me up though

[wary stratus]

it's named data.txt or something

you just delete your old tree.lua and name that file tree.txt

path of building will convert it to tree.lua on start up

[teal axle]

yeah Im probably just gonna use zombies plus storm brand or firestorm or something

to get to maps at least

[wary stratus]

here we go, figured out what to use my 2 gem sockets on: anime guardian

[fallen pewter]

For any of you leak-lords that want an updated PoB. Unzip and drop into C:\ProgramData\ and overwrite whatever it asks for.

[tidal frost]

leak or just the tree data they always release

[fallen pewter]

It's the official tree

With the new assets

I just know there were a bunch of people with the leaked version and no assets in here before.

[tulip warren]

Wild strike now effected by combat focus. Pogchamp

[vapid herald]

yeah super cool

im starting wildstrike forsure, think ima run raider

[tidal frost]

alright. null inclination exploding worms and minions mk 2 POB commence

[violet nymph]

@fallen pewter where is the source of that?

[fallen pewter]

GGG

It's all in the GGG tree data package

Well, except for the GameVersions.lua file that I manually updated to make PoB backwards compatible.

[tidal frost]

ggg releases tree json with patch; always

[violet nymph]

i mean the source link not a discord link

[fallen pewter]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627576/

[digital juniper]

Thanks, I was having issues figuring out what exactly to do with the JSON to update it.

[deft girder]

Nothing really change for my build. 🤔

[violet nymph]

did you make a 3_8 folder

[fallen pewter]

Mhm

[deft girder]

I meant my poe build.

I could run poison.

[violet nymph]

none of the new skills are in the json yet

[fallen pewter]

Exclusively tree data for now.

[wet plaza]

Skills never are in the tree json. They'll likely take a while to get in

[midnight phoenix]

U wont get skills before league start

[tidal frost]

expect gems a few days after launch; small tree support like fire and chaos multi within a few days; and uniques whenever

[midnight phoenix]

I dont remember that ever happening

[tidal frost]

now thats a notable right there

[glad narwhal]

So can you use Perfect Agony and Elelmental Overload together now?

[tidal frost]

overload still sets yoru multi to 100

and perfect agony is based on your multi

[static token]

So yes you still can, but no you still shouldn't.

Any online trees updated to 3.8 yet?

[kindred dagger]

wow flame dash buff, flame dash build as main dps ? 😄

[icy falcon]

Will the Inspiration Gem work together with mines' mana reservation?

[kindred dagger]

The fuck that random RF nerf...

[violet nymph]

RF was wayyy to strong it needed another nerf to make it even more useless

[coarse moon]

hold up, what’s a vermillion/cerulean ring

[void wing]

New ring bases with no mention of stats afaik.

[rough bobcat]

probably some minion, dot implicit? ;>

[restive wren]

could be upgraded versions of coral/paua rings, similar to how we have steel/iron rings

[void wing]

That sounds more feasible.

[restive wren]

although tbh 30 life as an implicit isn't terrible and you couldn't really make it much higher or else it would be too strong. Maybe %increased life/mana

[void wing]

Inc life is pretty strong too.

[kindred dagger]

I feel a lot of buff incoming on first weeks of the league, the way they changed minions in the end... they wanted to buff them and they'll end up probably beeing way way weaker both as damage and HP, cant be entirely positive about it but one thing is sure people will find out very soon ^^

[hot gyro]

did we know when the gems come to the pob?

[kindred dagger]

wow unless we are very lucky pob shouldnt be udpate before a week by now

[radiant pelican]

Supported skills have a base Mine Detonation Time of 0.25 seconds.

what does that mean?

you can detonate 4 mines per second?

[midnight kraken]

Wait I've got an idea

I was previously talking about spectral shield throw returning to me at the last chain via new hidden notable

But actually shards from hitting enemy are also projectiles

So all these shards(if they'll hit), will return to me

nice

[tidal frost]

if you have enough projectile speed

they have a rather short lifespan

[midnight kraken]

oh yeah

actually

[pine forge]

it's been a long time since I played SRS but when i look at the new tree isn't 78% inc movement speed + whatever feeding frenzy will give you a huge deal for SRS?

[wild arch]

Dual 7th sun crit ignite chieftain

[silk flame]

Labyrinth Traps now deal 90% less bleeding damage to Minions.

Hooooly ||* * * *||!

[midnight phoenix]

Yes its likely srs will be fine

I think it was the most straight up buffed minion

It was also pretty bad before so hopefully its now competitive

[dusk umbra]

but forreal tho. Who minions was dying to lab traps. 🤔

i dont think ive ever lost one in there

[silk flame]

watch this one mates:

Upon completing the Mastermind encounter, you'll now have access to a reward room for every single Immortal Syndicate member currently with a job on your board (including prisoners). That's essentially up to 14 rooms worth of rewards, plus the Mastermind themselves.

[midnight phoenix]

If u have literal zero regen on tree then ur guys sometimes die

[silk flame]

Like . . . WHAT

[midnight phoenix]

Thats almost worth resetting ur board for

[eager terrace]

also safehouse intel doesn't reset on catarina kill

and flasks being instant unveils

[midnight phoenix]

Well im going to be diadem farming in ssf anyway

[dusk umbra]

i didnt play syndicate so i kinda ignore it tbh. Dont really care to figure it out

[midnight phoenix]

But these are all nice buffs

[silk flame]

@eager terrace are you sure about the flask?
didnt find it in the patch notes

[eager terrace]

Veiled Flask modifiers now only need to be Unveiled once to be crafted.

[silk flame]

You now always have the option to 'Release' Syndicate members.
thanks god now i can just release them instead of ignoring them and waiting for another encounter!

[eager terrace]

under crafting changes

[silk flame]

yes

i thought you meant its unveiled upon dropping

[eager terrace]

oh no just that you don't need 3 flask unveils

[silk flame]

yes

its so good

[languid path]

you have been able to release syndicate already

it just wasn't for the very last encounter

[silk flame]

personally i like to sell them veiled

[eager terrace]

yeah there were just limitations

[midnight phoenix]

U couldnt do it on the last dude was all

[silk flame]

so its has more value

[midnight phoenix]

Which made no sense

[silk flame]

yep

uh a question
GGG said the you will get one of each master encounter every day you log in. (it will increase the tracker)
Now will the tracker increase when you are running maps and find a master mission there but you don't do the mission?

You'll now encounter far fewer 'empty' encounters based on your Betrayal board state.
what is an "empty" encounter? 😄

[eager terrace]

I wasn't clear on that myself

like if you find an actual niko in a map but don't click his nodes

[midnight phoenix]

If u have no non leader dudes in a safehouse

[eager terrace]

or if only map completion adds a counter

[midnight phoenix]

Sometimes u dont get the encounter

Like if u have no research dudes other than leader

[eager terrace]

I would think random encounters spawned in maps would be use it or lose it

[midnight phoenix]

Then u dont spawn a research lab in that jun

Most of the time

[silk flame]

i see

[pine forge]

so reading up on aggressiv minions they just have more range to seek out enemies? They are not like SRS and attack independently from your actions?

[silk flame]

Re-added the flat Energy Shield crafted modifiers for Rings and Amulets that mysteriously vanished.
"mysteriously" vanished
😂

[patent canyon]

Well now i wanna revisit wildstrike

You can have tons of damage on it now limiting to ice only

[midnight phoenix]

How do u intend to hit the boss

With ur high dmg cold wave

[patent canyon]

By coming into its face ofc

Oh wait

Wave comes behind boss

[midnight phoenix]

:+1:

[patent canyon]

Nvm, bye wildstrike

See you when melee is reworked again

[compact junco]

lol

[dusty umbra]

Morning people

Going through notes now and this is pretty monkas actually

The Labyrinth Boots Enchantments which previously granted Life and Mana Leech if you have Killed Recently now instead just grant Life Leech.
The Labyrinth Boots Enchantments which previously granted Life and Mana Regeneration if you have been Hit Recently now instead just grant Life Regeneration.

[timid geyser]

Yup

[dusty cove]

Chris was at a meeting and went "Mana leech... GET RID OF IT! ALL OF IT!!"

[eager terrace]

there's a new mana regen enchant I guess

just below that

[west fiber]

OH BOY

[eager terrace]

yeah when I read that

I was also hoping it would say on login

[west fiber]

Best change ever

xD

[dusty umbra]

indeed

[eager terrace]

but still nice

[sharp wind]

just don't die

[west fiber]

took you some time, but you did it eventually

[midnight phoenix]

Omg i have currency tab space again

[west fiber]

overall all the QoL improvements in 3.8 are dope

[midnight kraken]

So uh

I counted 161% increased duration of my dominating blow's sentinels(52s duration)

191% if the 2h unique mace will be stronger than for example the scourge + victario's shield

That's 100% skill effect duration, vaal haste or other temporary buffs(guess offerings count as well) gonna be hella long

[midnight kraken]

Eh guys

yesterday you were talking about how oils will be merged and someone posted a way called "12 (something) 3"

What was the name of it

[midnight phoenix]

Multichoose

+gems never affects level requirement

[wild arch]

Is there any decent mace for fire ele hit

Trypanon is the only one that comes to mind

[craggy kernel]

the one that gives flat fire per strength?

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Brutus'_Lead_Sprinkler

it's Torment restricted though, so might not be available easily

[wild arch]

But then I'll have to stack str

[craggy kernel]

hey you said "decent for fire elemental hit", i'm running with the information you gave 😄

[wild arch]

Trypanon might not even be that bad on raider 🤔

[craggy kernel]

Kongor?

(which means you're going Elemental Overload)

[wild arch]

I'll have to be more specific then

[craggy kernel]

I mean, having an idea of the build you're planning, even with a couple of info, would help a long way

[wild arch]

I'm trying to figure out the best way to do mace ele hit ignite

Shockwave will double ele hit's damage and therefore the ignite

[craggy kernel]

alright, so Mace/Staves only

[wild arch]

Mace specifically

[craggy kernel]

Ignite with either flat chances or crit

[patent canyon]

I am almost 100% certain it does not affect ignite

[wild arch]

Ignite is based on the hit's damage

[craggy kernel]

you seem to go crit, so bald no pants dude with crit ascendancy

(that's inquisitor)

[wild arch]

That won't do anything

[patent canyon]

Inquis pen doesnt work on ignite

[wild arch]

Trypanon raider seems decent

Frenzy will help out with the speed

Plus some ele damage and fire exposure

[craggy kernel]

go Chieftain

(idk really, at this point I usually look at the tree, look up fire damage and go towards the area that lights up)

(I call that "moth theorycrafting": you go towards the lights)

I mean, raider's cool and all, but Left side got all those sweet elemental penetration and fire damage over time

[patent canyon]

Yeah its rather sad when fire dot is on the left and best ignite ascendency trickster on the right :/

[lament zodiac]

are there any changes anyone has noticed that are different to the leak on the tree?

[quiet geyser]

Does the new Fire nova Mine deal 3 times the dmg?
1 base dmg and then "Fire 2 additional projectiles"?

[livid lake]

i dont know what the projectiles bit meant, i think it might have just been copy pasted from the other mine

[craggy kernel]

in the video, it explodes, and then there are 2 projectiles that pop from it

[livid lake]

wut

[quiet geyser]

em in the video of fire nova, you see it shooting projectiles

oh yea nvm sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXoB690C5Q4&feature=youtu.be&t=68

wit time stamp

because the dmg seems pretty low if it doesnt tripples the dmg

[craggy kernel]

and here https://youtu.be/HXoB690C5Q4?t=8

it goes like this: plant mines > applies aura > detonate in AoE > spawns projectiles that aim for stuff.

pew pew

[quiet geyser]

Deals 26 to 39 Fire Damage at gem level 1, up to 240 to 361 at gem level 20.

call me stupid but thats low

[static token]

So if you are going mines, what non-sab ascendancy would you consider?

[quiet geyser]

none? .^)

just go assasin with an orb of storm curse on hit setup

to get all the on hit buffs

or scion

[static token]

I always have a hard time picking Scion. It always feels like a lot of mediocre options. But for mines at least, sab seems far more optional than it ever has before.

[quiet geyser]

i dont like demolition specalist.

cant tell how the auras work while gameplay

but it sounds not that amazing against non bosses

[static token]

Ya, I'm thinking of skipping it in favor of Pyro, Born Explosives expert.

Or just not a sab at all. If I can find an alternative I like more.

[quiet geyser]

i think assasinis nice with the dmg and charges but you need a work around because the on hits dont applie to mine (curse on hit orb of storm)

[static token]

Trickster mines seems like maybe it might be viable.

[rose mulch]

Just go summoner so you have some td +normal td from blight

[near thunder]

So zombies can only get slam cooldown recovery speed from the gem now?

[midnight kraken]

Every minion scales with its gem lvl

its stats

Otherwise imagine zombies gem lvl 1 and gem lvl 20 having the same power

[celest atlas]

still not sure that the best necro would be ... would SRS with the New Golem work ? .. I might need something else for leveling

[midnight kraken]

There won't be best necro build

everything should work at the same power level, spectres, SRS, zombies

skeletons