no, it gets calculated from the base hit, not the crit hit
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quiet geyser
fallen tulip
i got 12
eternal laurel
Ohhh
fallen tulip
basically Perfect Agony turns 50% of your crit multi into Ailment multiplier on critical strike ,with the downside of 30% less damage with hits
but there are other passives which boost your poison on crits
so it should be somewhat of a win
eternal laurel
Right so its still worthwhile getting crit, ok. That’s the current version of PA still right?
quiet geyser
what if you only go for crit chance and not crit multi tho and focus on even more poisen/phys/chaos
patent canyon
you can
fallen tulip
like without Perfect Agony?
quiet geyser
yea
fallen tulip
nodes like this make it hard not to lol
fallen tulip
if i tick off "Enemy is on full life" I lose about 80% multiplier
quiet geyser
so one poisen tick and its gone
fallen tulip
make it count i suppose
violet nymph
@lucid stone "replace tree.lua" with the one you get from the site what site?
fallen tulip
I wonder which melee dagger skill deals the most damage on one hit
patent canyon
its coming together 👀
violet nymph
what site..
patent canyon
fallen tulip
or on the biggest area
quiet geyser
cobra lashes chain doesnt seam to have a range limitation
so cobra lash with gmp will clear screens
violet nymph
ahh ty
patent canyon
some random items and build is sitting at happy 1m mark
ok it is decided, league starting with scourge arrow, unless it is nerfed to the ground
runic fractal
Did Zombies also get the need for accuracy, in 3.8?
fallen tulip
?
runic fractal
Well, i saw skeletons did further up, so wasn't sure
violet nymph
when will the new gems and stuff get updated in pob?
violet nymph
so we wont know the numbers until patch notes
runic fractal
Gems and pob will be in some time thursday, most likely.
fleet garden
@runic fractal
runic fractal
There's a lot of juicy nodes for our build now :p
vital idol
Im really hoping the new nodes arent all melee focused
fleet garden
Yeah but it's obligate to refund some other :/
vital idol
Propably are though
fleet garden
And Dire Torment is not worth at finnaly
empty dagger
anything changed with totems?
runic fractal
Dot multi is insane tho
quiet geyser
i dont know if this change, but a few nodes i have seen arent, with "weapon type",
They wre while welding, so maybe some crit dagger poisen spells ^^
fleet garden
Yeah after it's only the tree leak , there is not the calculation
we can already see all hidden notable too
quiet geyser
- everythign can still be changed or tuned down
fleet garden
yeah
patent canyon
but it will be just few numerical changes at most
everything should remain in that general direction
fleet garden
what i really wait is to be able to put Cobra Lash
patent canyon
wont go with gyro?
fleet garden
gyro ?
patent canyon
green spectral throw
fleet garden
CL have a base chain and it's a new skill so i want to try it out
fallen tulip
cobra lash is like green sst isnt it
fleet garden
yeah
fleet garden
i play with claw not dagger
patent canyon
nah looks like dagger ones are worded with
so no love for spell casters
cobra is the one that chains
gyro is the one that returns blades and then you can discharge with wirl blades
vital idol
I guessing caster love will be 3.9 when they hopefully rework elementalist
fallen tulip
caster lov alrdy went
vital idol
We gotta keep going in circles
fallen tulip
then we got bows
vital idol
O yea, bows will propably get reworked soon, rven though they are in a good spot still
hazy hollow
question ... poison is scaling with just crit or will it scale some with crit multi ? (or does it now have its own multiplier's)
fallen tulip
crit multi with the new perfect agony
vital idol
Posion with perfect agony scales with crit
hazy hollow
nice
vital idol
Which is why people want to see pefect agony node
quiet geyser
it doesnt scale with crit,
the damage gets calculated of the base hit without modifiers
vital idol
Because if its buffed numerically, its going to be reslly good
vital idol
Is the downside still there?
vital idol
Which isent only 30% still
quiet geyser
yea but a lot of nodes with poisen also give "free" crit multi now
vital idol
Yea, 30% will be tiny with how much poison stacking we can do
hazy hollow
this should be interesting
fallen tulip
looking at my build you will get 208% multiplier on critical hits
vital idol
Make dendrobate great again
fallen tulip
and my build also had 100% crit against full life
so the first poison will be strong as hecc
quiet geyser
what happens if you take pathfinder instead of assasin?
violet nymph
@fallen tulip share
patent canyon
likely less damage, better clear
gloomy dune
You become weaker and less cool at rhe same time @quiet geyser
patent canyon
i hope no prolif wont suck ass
vital idol
Im doing scourge arrow poison assassin, soo hopefully prolif wont be needed
quiet geyser
master toxicst is insanely strong, but no clue how much they overbuffed assasin
gloomy dune
Well yeah but pathfinder wirh crit poison wont be that good
gloomy dune
If you want non-crit poisin tgen pathfibder is your thing
fallen tulip
is Caustic arrow only chaos dot?
patent canyon
toxic rain
vital idol
League goal is darkscorn bow, bit with legion being more rare now, might be hard to get
quiet geyser
and then get a timless jewel and get your 85 chaos res
vital idol
Though im propably just going to try to get slightly decent res, hopefully assassin with elusive will help me live
Let me just be like my trickster last lesgur that face tanked t16 min and just dodged and like never got hit
Do need to figure out what notable to aim for on ammy when skill tree is posted
fallen tulip
what do any of you do with chaos res?
gloomy dune
I abuse ele res + chaos res crafts
vital idol
Chaos res is just kinda there, having it is nice for chayula breeches
vital idol
But most of the times its not needed, just be aware if you come across it, its going to hurt if you have -60
vital idol
25% chaos from hits
Feels soo good
Wasent there a hidden node that decreased physical dmg taken,?
patent canyon
yeah
violet nymph
hidden?
patent canyon
-something and -1 per level
violet nymph
lol
vital idol
Could make a real tanky jugg
kindred dagger
jugg is allready a mountain, especialy for physic damage, there are better things to make him more tanky
unless tricking with such bonus allow you to then reduce tankyness from other sources and so you can focus on damage
mental apex
@patent canyon how do you find the hidden nodes?
And I assume those are stuff you can get on an amulet this league correct?
patent canyon
leaked tree and yes
mental apex
Where's the leaked tree?
patent canyon
fallen tulip
how can ggg ban game account from reddit?
gloomy dune
Idk xD
patent canyon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gloomy dune
I hope they dont banme for screenshotting this for you :O
patent canyon
hell yeah
fleet garden
XD
gloomy dune
Thats like facebook, but without me being banned
fleet garden
u got banned on FB ? 0.0
pearl sail
tbh they could just share tree now cuz of all the leaks.
fleet garden
Openarl should made a update soon i thinking but can't confirm AT ALL
gloomy dune
Well, they can still tweak numbera
fleet garden
yea
gloomy dune
As soom as they post it, tweaks will cause an outrage
Therefore they keep quiet, understandably
pearl sail
y so release tree and add * that "expect minor changes"
gloomy dune
People dont read that far
pearl sail
so just ignore them. If they cant read it thier own fault
gloomy dune
Well ggg wont think "its their fault" when theyre not buyung suppirter packs because of it
Thats the problem when youee a business. You have to cater to stupid people aswell or you lose income
pearl sail
btw it is funny how pob is shouting at me to update now.
mental apex
I'm at work so I can't pull up the tree, would somebody mind sharing the new golem node for me? That'd be amazing ❤️
I heard there's a new New golem node yes? Or am I imaginimg wrong
patent canyon
from necro or ele?
fierce mist
kinda hilarious that he's worried that it'd get him banned
patent canyon
nothing on necro
mental apex
On the tree itself
fierce mist
didn't jonathan say it was a banned user that leaked it because of alpha site changes
mental apex
I might be imagining but I thought there was
patent canyon
proven wadi
bufffs
patent canyon
so lets assume discord being discord
fallen tulip
the client seems to have trouble
proven wadi
golemancer is pleased at these new nodes
fallen tulip
like 75% of my screenshots were stuck loading for me
fallen tulip
no need for primordial chain either (for other than full golemancers)
pearl sail
how many unconnected nodes should be there?
fallen tulip
13?
mental apex
13?
fallen tulip
i counted 12 myself but i wasnt very accurate
gloomy dune
@fallen tulip here's my tree as promised, probably less dmg than yours, but waaaaaaaaaay more evasion, (mind you it's claws, not daggers, for when you compare)
pearl sail
all are around tree , one up middle and 2 near ranger start
pearl sail
thats my up middle ;d
mental apex
Ah k
tawny hare
Could someone post a tree with all "minion" nodes highlighted?
fallen tulip
tawny hare
Sweet, thanks
fallen tulip
is this new?
violet nymph
how do you even view that leaked tree once you got the lua from the link
fallen tulip
you replace the lua in your pob folder
violet nymph
which one
fallen tulip
its in pob/treedata/3.7
runic fractal
There's only +2 zombies on the tree now, used to be 4 😦
fallen tulip
the gem itself has more though?
gloomy dune
if anyone wants to simulate perfect agony in the leaked pob:
copy this onto a jewel while having perfect agony taken: "Modifiers to Critical Strike Multiplier also apply to Damage Multiplier for Ailments from Critical Strikes at 50% of their value"
fallen tulip
violet nymph
i dont have that
gloomy dune
wrong place @violet nymph
fallen tulip
you need to enable hidden folders somehow
violet nymph
gloomy dune
go c:// set show hidden folders, then programdata/pathofbuilding
fallen tulip
its been yeeeeears since i did that
violet nymph
hidden things are enabled
violet nymph
ah got it
fallen tulip
moose what have you got ticked in configs?
gloomy dune
fallen tulip
depending on if the enemy is full/low life my dps seems to almost double
gloomy dune
yes but that's pob fuckery
he will only be full life for the very very first hit
and with poison builds our hits are small
and when he's on lowlife you're gonna cull him soon through critical strikes have culling strike
fallen tulip
i havent really figured out a strong hit that'd be best for the initia lhit
quiet geyser
mooseling dude, how much life is "enaugh" for you?
gloomy dune
the other node is inconsistent dmg, in poe you want consistency over anything
that depends on your other defenses
fallen tulip
Withering step doesn't actually deal dmg right?
gloomy dune
i shoot for 6k with 60+ dodge and evasion, but with armour or anything i'd be happy with 5k
quiet geyser
i mean like inc life from tree
gloomy dune
nope withering step does not deal dmg
mental apex
I aim for 180%+ from tree
gloomy dune
i shoot for 200, but i'm happy with 180 ^^
mental apex
Try to get like 210 if possible while still keeping the damage and other defences
gloomy dune
if i can get 200 without going out of my way, i'll take it, but if i'm below 180 i'm sad
mental apex
^^
gloomy dune
now i have only 177% life but i make up for it through the following
- crit immunity
quiet geyser
okay then not i guess ^^ i found a more efficent way to get life on your build but you end up with 170% and you wont be able to get more ^^
mental apex
Ye and inc% max life on gear means you don't need as much in tree also
gloomy dune
would it be at the cost of evasion rating steph?
because these are usually considered "travel nodes" but i took them on purpose this time, especially the ones traveling towards the sion life wheel, they also give mnee needed accuracy on top of it
quiet geyser
yea you would drop those but still could take them
but then it doesnt matter
because you end up with same amount of hp
(because you would save 4 skill points and drop 10%)
gloomy dune
if i reach lvl 99 i could reach 197% increased life 😮 xD
can you still show me, i wanna try it out
compact junco
wait, looking at the leaked tree, it looks like they straight up deleted alchemist node?
wow, im sad
quiet geyser
its basicly taking hired killer, Written in blood all nodes and Thick skinn all nodes and drop scion life cluster
fallen tulip
they kinda spread it around
compact junco
yeah now its spread behind garbage mana flask nodes 😦
gloomy dune
oh yeah steph i tried that, it would have the same end result, but giving me less bonus on extra levels i might just get :S
gloomy dune
still thanks for the look, i appreciate it ❤
gloomy dune
i tried making dagger versions, but ended up with slightly less DPS and way worse implicits
mental apex
Claw>dagger any day personally
quiet geyser
did they also changed the sword nodes ?
fallen tulip
goes to show what i know about making builds lol
i like the part where i blindly spec everything and then try to save a point here or there
gearing i dont understand a bit
quiet geyser
melding is not worth it
quiet geyser
are you fine with 170?
fallen tulip
i mean these are points from 90-100 most likely
this build will die from 1 hit nonetheless
quiet geyser
then rather take jewel isntead of melding if its late game ^^
gloomy dune
i really dislike the lack of defenses there, but it's probably absolutely fine in softcore, but it hurts my hc heart 😦
quiet geyser
on jewel slot you would gain 10-14% life for 4 nodes, while melding gives you 15% for 4 nodes, but on jewels you can also gain other stats.
gloomy dune
if you're every going for hcssf just for the sake of it, shoot me a PM and i'll invite you to our HCSSF guild, you'd be getting a lot of help on how to go about it there ^^
fallen tulip
hcssf sounds like a grind honestly lol
gloomy dune
it is
it is a massive grind
but a few people like that grind
we have one dude regularely getting 36/36 in HCSSF, and he goes one step further and empties his stash when one of his chars dies and deletes the other chars
he makes a grinder and one or two boss killers, and when only one of them dies, he deletes everything
fallen tulip
how much does he play per day?
gloomy dune
around 5-6 hours on weekdays i believe, weekends way more ofc
and he plays the whole league, all 3 months
gloomy dune
can't keep up with him
most people are not
but i got sooo much better at this game since i play it in hcssf
even if i sometimes dont get 36 challenges done, it makes you learn so much
quiet geyser
the concept of ssf is realy nice, imo the game just lacks qol stuff to play it
or its not enaugh qol for me
fallen tulip
last epoch is fun for the single-player experience
but poe needs trading to make some builds happen
gloomy dune
there is more qol then you'd expect for it already there
it's the state of mind that has to change, you dont play characters anymore, you play a stash ^^
fallen tulip
ofc you should focus on making the build work no matter what you have
quiet geyser
yea maybe its my mentality, if the game is ssf were i dont interakt with someone, why is not offline moddeble were i can change stuff i dont like
(like more master or more master of the type i want)
tight wing
SSF is harder because, even though people say no, game drops are balanced having trading in mind.
gloomy dune
it's not harder per se, it's grindier and requires more "wait, i'm not gonna go one tier higher just yet"
fallen tulip
you dont need Exalts or anything in SSF tho
for crafting bench maybe
but you aren't going to do any crazy 100 fossil runs in SSF
gloomy dune
my main reason for playing ssf is that i can see a unique drop and look at is as the item it is and a potential build, instead of "oh look, 1c"
quiet geyser
1 alch*
quiet geyser
you pick them up
gloomy dune
my advice for everyone who is considering ssf, but isnt sure about it, is to just start a league in SSF, you can migrate away from it without having lost anything
fallen tulip
i've been thinking of SSF for a few leagues
fallen tulip
builds like Golemancer will be pain in SSF
fallen tulip
well how are you going to get Primordial jewels?
oh neat-o
I've been missing farming specific stuff
gloomy dune
that's what you have to learn again when you play ssf xD
it's a grind, dont get me wrong
fallen tulip
When i started in delve (4 leagues ago...) I would do the Act Belly of the beast area to find the div card
gloomy dune
you're gonna run maps a lot, that you wouldnt in trade league, to get that one card,
but it's fun getting it IF you like grinds
fallen tulip
think i farmed for 1 card and then gave up and just bought it from trade
empty dagger
you migrate from SSF -> League Softcore? not to standard?
gloomy dune
you migrate to league softcore yep
empty dagger
huh. didnt know
gloomy dune
that's why i mean if you're unsure, just start in ssf, you can always migrate out of it if you end up disliking it
a friend of mine always starts in ssf, and if he finds a unique he can make a cool second build around before reaching red maps, he stays ssf, if he does not, he migrates and buys hismelf a build he likes
fallen tulip
dont know if anything really changed lol
mental apex
How good/bad are the minion passive changes?
lapis topaz
good overall, less mandatory nodes, more interesting options
wet plaza
is the json leaked completely now?
fallen tulip
the tree.lua is available yeah
modern radish
json?
patent canyon
pob tree
fallen tulip
its probaly not the release-edition but who knows
modern radish
ahh
fallen tulip
they still got a few days before patch notes
patent canyon
at worse it will be few % difference anyway
wet plaza
hm too lazy to jsonify that thing for @rigid lake just gonna wait i guess
modern radish
how do people have the new tree in their path of building, and how do i get taht
lucid stone
THEY REMOVED ALCHEMIST FROM THE TREE?!
fallen tulip
u got to download the tree.lua from a questionable download link and replace the tree.lua in your pob folder with that
lucid stone
Aqueous Accelerant takes its place now, by pain attunement
modern radish
you dont happen to have the file yourself?
quiet geyser
and lua files are not save ^^
modern radish
hmmmm
quiet geyser
even tho is jsut a script languare, it can acces stuff you dont want
fallen tulip
i have the file so enjoy my credit card numbers while you can
normal kraken
what about perfect agony?
wet plaza
if you dont execute it any file is safe
quiet geyser
does pob execute it? ;D
modern radish
OHhhhh we need to see new pa
patent canyon
compact junco
its also behind garbage mana flask nodes @lucid stone with mana flask related stuff 😦
wet plaza
hopefully only after you've scanned it a bit
lucid stone
</3
compact junco
imagine using windows and being scared of viruses, smh plebs
quiet geyser
yea its to risky and to much hassle for me i just wait 2 days 🤷
compact junco
:p
lapis topaz
it's a lua file smh
quiet geyser
and ask others 🤷
fallen tulip
better safe than sorry amirite lads
quiet geyser
Its a "lua" file, good, it can acces more then you think
fallen tulip
cant trust them russian hackers
quiet geyser
dont trust anyone with unoffial stuff
patent canyon
maybe to not affect the unique than gives flasks to minions
fallen tulip
yea
tidal frost
Could be wording only and never helped it
compact junco
unless they plan to rework it
patent canyon
yeah might be placeholder for future
lucid stone
Oof, I'm not sure if I want to go all the way down to acrobatics for those mine nodes
patent canyon
ofc you are
lucid stone
It was 'flasks on you' before, so still didn't work with the belt
tidal frost
The mine nodes still down there?
patent canyon
acro and phase acro is nuts
lucid stone
Not on an ES build. ._.
compact junco
heartseeker is nice then 😛
lucid stone
There's an AoE cluster by acrobatics, no?
sly tusk
Did the dingleberry who yoinked the json ever leek what the new minion notables will do now that they lost the +1s
patent canyon
i can look for any specific you wanna know
compact junco
bunch of nodes still have +1 from what I can see
patent canyon
compact junco
its there
patent canyon
thats the only one on tree relating spectres
fallen tulip
2 nodes have +1
compact junco
also wtf they moved spiritual command, why
tidal frost
Alright huge specte buff to the naysayers
wet plaza
needs more buffs to blink mirror and siege ballista
rustic sentinel
biggest change to the tree imo is removal of witch flask nodes
wet plaza
i rate 5/10
compact junco
siege ballista buff was maraketh jewels :p
sly tusk
Huh, so the nodes are still there?
patent canyon
i mean it might be op op this league
sly tusk
What about gravebintentions
sly tusk
Grave intentions*
patent canyon
not a single node with name grave
compact junco
well, that still do not changes that people will most likely want to also do other content outside of blight on maps :d
sly tusk
It's above lucidity
patent canyon
fallen tulip
i kinda want to do like Dominating blow Holy relic Herald of Purity
sly tusk
Interesting
olive whale
Anybody knows what is this "unnerve" thing?
http://prntscr.com/p0uenm
autumn snow
more speed
compact junco
🏎 💀
rustic sentinel
does mask of the stitched demon work with animate guardian? i've always wanted to make an infinite regen animate guardian and that new grave intentions gives it like 20k es?
patent canyon
tree changes in general looks really nice
life still doesnt exist on right side but hey, you get free life notable on ammy
autumn snow
I mean minion life
autumn snow
meh
mental apex
Show me minion nodes I need them 😩
compact junco
but idk, who is going to ever pick all those purely defensive nodes. mainly when summoners that need that also got bone armour
patent canyon
take them 😉
autumn snow
we can get up to 48% mov speed from tree
minion mov speed
ravenous is must
- onslaught
extra spicy
compact junco
it kind of hurts pathing there tho, but yeah its def worth it
autumn snow
yep
modern radish
damnn
autumn snow
awkward position
lapis topaz
Oh man these hierophant changes
patent canyon
its posted here above
lapis topaz
are super cool
patent canyon
you can search by my name
its gonna be an image with link
replace all slash with /
compact junco
search for this one has the lua here @modern radish
modern radish
someone pmd me
autumn snow
that's weird af
modern radish
thanks tho
autumn snow
patent canyon
using golems in 2019 
rustic sentinel
i don't think utmost was op
stone belfry
Wait where's alchemist?
tidal frost
F
stone belfry
Please tell me they're moving alchemist to ranger.
rustic sentinel
alchemist removed
mental apex
Utmost?
patent canyon
near pain attunm
patent canyon
yh
stone belfry
Oh goodness.
compact junco
they moved both utmost intellect and intelligence
modern radish
alchemist renamed n changed
patent canyon
compact junco
because of those 2 jewels
tidal frost
It's something resembling alchemest
stone belfry
What are the minor nodes?
compact junco
rip tempered flesh and eldritch knowledge
rustic sentinel
5% duration
patent canyon
5% d
rustic sentinel
i want to point out that the 10% is not increased flask effect
autumn snow
nerfed
rustic sentinel
only on you
tidal frost
The int in range of the 3 point jewel?
stone belfry
"Applied to you"
autumn snow
nothing special that node
rustic sentinel
cinderswallow bottled faith, etc
autumn snow
that name
compact junco
im still very very sad about alchemist
autumn snow
damage over time multiplier for poison
patent canyon
yh
rustic sentinel
i think you got 26% total from the 3 nodes
patent canyon
its same but only on you
tidal frost
How much % poison/chaos multi is therr.
compact junco
i like that they changed some nacdot nodes to just generic dot multiplier
stone belfry
Oh
compact junco
like growth and decay
patent canyon
autumn snow
perfect agony
patent canyon
thats chaos damage over time
patent canyon
without specific nodes
compact junco
it makes barely a difference, but it at least makes some nodes worth taking now
(the PA change)
lapis topaz
patent canyon
well imma still go crit without multi
stone belfry
Well, to some pathfinders
lapis topaz
rustic sentinel
whoa i missed that
compact junco
where did they nerfed flask duration @stone belfry ? or just on tree
stone belfry
Mana hierophants
rustic sentinel
loss of es for mana hierophants
compact junco
yeah, that hurts a lot
stone belfry
it's now just 10% increased effect of flasks on you
and you get some bonuses during MANA flasks LUL
lapis topaz
loss of es but a ton more damage/aoe
compact junco
i wanted to annoint alchemist on my PF 😦
rustic sentinel
guardian still the same though
stone belfry
Who didn't?
mental apex
Guardian is officially trash (unless your scaling ES mana guardian)
stone belfry
I mean if the unique modifiers are good...
quartz dome
woah that aoe node on heirophant actually singlehandedly makes me kinda want to make a heirophant
quartz dome
heiro flameblast totems lesgo
rustic sentinel
heiro indigon is what i think of when i look at that new node
autumn snow
multi should double dmg, I guess
compact junco
they added bunch of multi for ignite and generic muti, so they should at least have something to take on tree, lol
quartz dome
indigon if/when you get The Agnostic up and running
then you're basically untouchable
rustic sentinel
it's too bad they nerfed consec ground on inquisitor
that was the only way i knew how to build indigon/mana based
autumn snow
that 100% inc aoe is nuts
wet plaza
@delicate acorn
wet plaza
lucid stone
What does 'unnerve' do?
autumn snow
best node is the mov speed one by far
lucid stone
On Guardian node
delicate acorn
that said unholy might looks good as hell
lucid stone
Is 'unnerve' intimidate for spells?
delicate acorn
actually no
nvm
skellies would love it most and they don't live long enough to make use of it
you recast every pack anyway
olive whale
Wanna know about this "unnerve" as well. Can't find any info about it
lucid stone
My guess is it's 'enemies take 10% increased spell damage'
Ascendant guardian now grants onslaught to allies.
delicate acorn
if it were "your minions have a chance to grant unholy might to all nearby allies on kill", well
mental apex
My annoyance is on kill effects.
Those don't usually do enough in tough long fights where there are no mobs
delicate acorn
and even then
delicate acorn
it only grants UM to the minion that gets the kill
modern radish
poison now instead of being put on ur enemy on hit, its now on kill :))
lucid stone
Do we have any changes on the bottom side of the tree?
patent canyon
patent canyon
duel bow nodes are now has generic dot
compact junco
i think swift skewering was moved? or am i dreaming
mental apex
Bow has always he'd generic dot
compact junco
uh i mena
compact junco
forceful skewering not swift
they also nerfed utmost might (i already mentioned it, but for everyone who missed it)
delicate acorn
how is utmost might nerfed
patent canyon
i think this one was 10% phys red?
rustic sentinel
no way lol
patent canyon
rustic sentinel
10% would be so op
delicate acorn
the node itself isnt different
delicate acorn
is it just a location change?
delicate acorn
ye
compact junco
its nerf to tempered flesh
lapis topaz
it was OP before
compact junco
yeah
rustic sentinel
did they add life nodes behind blood magic?
patent canyon
so bottom side also had some changes
fallen tulip
😦
lapis topaz
no yip, those were there before
delicate acorn
theres already life behind bm
patent canyon
2 nodes of 10%
lapis topaz
they moved all the big stat nodes to not be usable with tempered ___ any more
lapis topaz
eyea that's one of the oil-only notables
compact junco
yeah
delicate acorn
half AC?
rustic sentinel
half ac
patent canyon
rustic sentinel
now we know why they nerfed molten?
lapis topaz
they nerfed molten because it was op pre 3.7
just better than every other "melee" skill
rustic sentinel
it was a joke
lapis topaz
lol
autumn snow
patent canyon
makes sense around 160% others
autumn snow
wut
rustic sentinel
huh didn't notice that one
autumn snow
oh we can check hidden nodes
rustic sentinel
that seems really good for that indigon build. arcane surge gives flat mana regen
autumn snow
50% inc is crazy
rustic sentinel
flat percentage
autumn snow
no hidden node for minion
compact junco
im still trying to understand transcendence, is it like filler mod with annoints or what
autumn snow
compact junco
lol
lucid stone
Isn't -100 phys damage from attacks good?
rustic sentinel
not really?
delicate acorn
good vs trash, less so vs big hits
rustic sentinel
well you could get rid of the reflect from hiltless
delicate acorn
nah
rustic sentinel
and then also get the regen from jug doing that
delicate acorn
thats not "from attacks" im p sure
undone timber
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Aukuna's_Will work with Corpse pact ?
compact junco
i wonder why they reworded EO for ailments
delicate acorn
can someone give me a link to the leaked tree
undone timber
yeah that would be really nice xD
delicate acorn
i'd like to have a reference so i dont have to keep asking when people say things like deathbeam just said
you can dm it to me
rustic sentinel
i just tested it with immortal flesh it works
cursive ember
Could someone tell me the diference between allocating perfect agony or using Coralito's Signature on a full crit poison assasin?
compact junco
no difference
gloomy dune
@delicate acorn the tree is all ober this channel. Just roll through all the screenshots. Ypull find a screenshot of 4chan where its in
compact junco
except from corallito you will also get more damage from its other effects
autumn snow
@compact junco because you can get extra multi with crits
cursive ember
so, if i take the flask i can save up to 5 passive points and i lose nothing?
autumn snow
check dire torment for example
rustic sentinel
you lose the flask slot
cursive ember
interesting, thank you
compact junco
oh, interesting, ty @autumn snow
delicate acorn
@gloomy dune except i don't want to have to hunt thrrough a thousand screenshots to know what people are talking about in a given convo
and i mean
you should be using coralitos anyway
compact junco
searing heat is kind of weird node
its like, ignite node for crit spells
what is like non-existant archetype :d
autumn snow
scaling crit for/with ailments is weird
rustic sentinel
i kind of wish they would reduce the hit component in perfect agony even more
delicate acorn
ggg is terrified of old DOT
rustic sentinel
it's okay with the sin 50% more damage with crit
delicate acorn
theyll put a thousand bandaids on it before they un-break that leg
compact junco
well i am already using bunch of crit/crit multi nodes even now with perfect agony
gloomy dune
@delicate acorn you have to find one screensgot. Ghe download link is in the screenshot
rustic sentinel
but you scale less crit multi i think
compact junco
but that is mostly because they also have dot stuff on them :d
delicate acorn
i have it already thanks to another user, thanks
compact junco
its not even intentional, but those nodes had nice %
like king of the hill, lethality
gloomy dune
Yep
autumn snow
we get 100% multi with crits
gloomy dune
You can make a jewel simulating it
compact junco
yeah like this
patent canyon
wouldnt just taking your crit multi and doing 1/2 of it as more poison damage work?
rustic sentinel
no
patent canyon
ohh right it goes into more pool
rustic sentinel
since the multi stacks additively with other sources of multi
autumn snow
and only works with crits :x
there's so many %minion life nodes
they are everywhere lol
ezi 14k+ life skelies
compact junco
this is my current crit, and somehow assassination is still 3.9% per point 🤷
autumn snow
with capped res and nice phys reduc
compact junco
(brings me up to 22% crit chance and 40% effective what I guess kind of makes sense)
compact junco
:d
low kindle
That's peak effectiveness of diamond flask
gloomy dune
33% without flask is where condistemcy starts imo
compact junco
ah yeah
gloomy dune
50% us where it feels good
low kindle
Do we know the new pa?
compact junco
enabling/disablign corallito on mine, lol
patent canyon
sounds reasonable to me
gloomy dune
To all poison crit guys. Get an ilvl 1 claw and a few aberrant + corrodes fossils to get a cheap gg starter weapon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/347422922434019332/618133207287595040/unknown.png
compact junco
(that is also with PA on jewel)
patent canyon
thats 200k per poison even
should be really smooth to map as well
thats 1 shot for t16 trash
low kindle
Gg starter weapon
patent canyon
fucking 14dps claw
compact junco
lol
patent canyon
gloomy dune
Physdps is irrelevant. That thing hurts and is cheap AF
rustic sentinel
if you get a higher level, easily get t1 chaos by adding metallic
compact junco
you will get chaos/phys mods with aberrant/corroded on that claw
and i would aim for that
and not for worthless despair on hit
pulsar blade
My early plan is to farm Arid Lake for Rabid Rhoa cards, get the Gemini claw with +Chaos dmg
patent canyon
i will be suicidal with darkscorn and -60 chaos res
compact junco
ez annoint
patent canyon
then gonna craft half arsed bow
compact junco
if they change nacdot to chaos multi craft then that would be sweet
patent canyon
well time to reroll every poison immune map for next month
compact junco
on thicket, delve crafted before
low kindle
Blood Aqueducts, Twin Claw 
compact junco
but also, you will probably end up with half arsed bow before darkscorn tbh, as darkscorn is legion drop
patent canyon
well i will need to use whatever
i plan to just use toxic rain for most part untill i get usable bow
not trusting rng on drops
wild arch
I just saw that tribal fury node
wild arch
Is that basically 1 ancestral support?
rustic sentinel
yep
patent canyon
if it works like that, ye
rustic sentinel
same wording
autumn snow
I'm kinda disappointed by the hidden notables
patent canyon
yeah but could be some limitations like you need to hit for it to work
meanwhile ac does not
autumn snow
some of them are generic notables meh
wild arch
But then if you add the actual support will you get 2 or 4 ghosts 
autumn snow
like deadly inclinations
compact junco
some of them are really nice tho
patent canyon
should be 3
autumn snow
and nothing for minions 
patent canyon
2 from ac and 1 from tribal
wild arch
Hmm
patent canyon
just dont think about it
rustic sentinel
i might actually take that strike node for spellcasters
autumn snow
strike?
wild arch
What about heart of steel
compact junco
honestly, I am trying to go through my SA tree, and I dont even want to change it from 3.7, except that I will now probably prioritize hunter's gambit more as its suddenly one of the strongest nodes
autumn snow
oh wait a sec...
I know why ravenous horde position is shit!
they want summoners to use that node on amulet 👌
autumn snow
what build?
patent canyon
scourge arrow
compact junco
mine is this. idk, both method of madness and growth and decay have potential, but too much pathing
i might drop something for more crit tho
patent canyon
yeah i am happy with my crit of 50 / 75 lucky
and 162% + golems blood oil life with dodge nodes
not sure how to trust if its really 1.3m dps on tabula and nothing
compact junco
i might drop pathing to golems blood in favour of annoint, would save me plenty of points
i pathed all the way there mostly for the regen
as it was pretty necessary
autumn snow
discipline and training is better imo @patent canyon
compact junco
when you have corallito + blood rage, yeah, its bad
it hurts
i was also alternatively thinking about vitality void for annoint
or force shaper
rustic sentinel
how much leech can you get vs bosses as a poison build?
patent canyon
theoretically capped
compact junco
you can cap it, you just need quite high leech %
compact junco
im surprised you went atrophy over force shaper tho when you already pathed all the way there. the AS + reduced dot is pretty good
rustic sentinel
what about a pierce essence drain? should be little under 1k hp/s x enemies hit for your build no?
patent canyon
was showing more dps gain on other side
i am not casting ed in the middle of boss fight....
autumn snow
ed is regen
patent canyon
shrewd gyro
Has anyone mentioned the leaked golem changes with golem buff effect?
patent canyon
wait
rustic sentinel
i've always included ed in my toxic rain builds
patent canyon
force shaper is more dps
rustic sentinel
use it with betrayal triggers for full uptime
autumn snow
@shrewd gyro the node?
compact junco
its probably less with the dot multi
but the phys dot reduction is still pretty damn sweet
shrewd gyro
@autumn snow elementalist now gets 50% buff effect per golem.
shrewd gyro
you can get 11 golems now + 30% buff effect from golem commander. so not including harmonies and helm enchants, that's 580% buff effect
lucid stone
Hmm
shrewd gyro
just threw it in pob real quick and you can get x10 effect pretty easily if you build with jewels
lucid stone
Making a good tree is hard
low knot
tomorrow we should get the patchnotes correct?
shrewd gyro
50% phys reduction looks nice
compact junco
its hard to calc all this damage without those multis working
its shame that i cant compile pob on linux
autumn snow
oh I see
rustic sentinel
today we get to see nerfs though
shrewd gyro
35% chance to avoid ele ailments per summoned golem means that golem builds also will have full ele immunity with only one golem type if they want
low knot
huh patchnotes are today?
autumn snow
elemancer node buff
autumn snow
yeah
patent canyon
rustic sentinel
also extra golem on tree
low kindle
Lmao those icons are scuffed
rustic sentinel
golemancer seem really strong
low knot
@patent canyon difference between balance stuff and aptchnotes? aren't that balance stuff in the patchnotes too?
shrewd gyro
I really hope the carrion golem's buff effect is decent. even with 10 phys dmg increase, it could end up being 100 phys dmg after buff effect
patent canyon
no numbers in manifesto likely
just that this is dead, this is good and why is what
also bug off no a house for you
low knot
hmm so for impale i need to wait till WED?
patent canyon
can potentially be in manifesto
autumn snow
30% effect of non-damaging ailments
patent canyon
but numbers on wed
low knot
so for example they say tomorrow "we nerf impale" but the exact numbers are then on wed?
shrewd gyro
oh interesting @autumn snow . So the shock is guarenteed to be 20% now if you have effect nowhere else? neat
rustic sentinel
numbers are on day before leaguestart i think. gem reveal
autumn snow
yeah
low knot
so if they say nothing to impale tomorrow it could jsu stay as it is?
shrewd gyro
Has there been any talk of disciple of the forbidden? Power charges finally getting some tree love
patent canyon
manifesto is just big stuff
autumn snow
elemencer node is like
low knot
but only because it isn't in the balance manifesto, it doesn't mean they doN't enrf it in the patchnotes?
patent canyon
also true
shrewd gyro
yea, it's crazy
low knot
but if it isn't in the manifesto it just mean that the change isn't realy game changeing?
shrewd gyro
if you pick one golem, you can get 100% from the helmet enchant. 10 eminence jewels is another 300%. So you can hit with 11 golems 980% golem effect
fleet garden
Could someone explain this pls ? i don't understand what it's mean