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[native osprey]

except that doesn't work

[lucid stone]

Or am I gonna be using combustion storm brand on a miner

[native osprey]

pob has to be massaged a bit every time they move nodes

[modest walrus]

@worldly scaffold 👌

[worldly scaffold]

okay

let me count the leaks to see if the amount checks out

[spice comet]

They'd keep the files under lock and a close eye on testers id assume too

[cedar pewter]

I mean

[violet nymph]

Bone barrier seems nutty

[cedar pewter]

He clearly didn't care if he got caught

[native osprey]

evidently not close enough

[spice comet]

Yeah clearly

[worldly scaffold]

huh misses two things

[karmic nimbus]

you are missing the trickster changed

[cedar pewter]

He posted a screenshot w/ level, league, server and time lol

[worn hill]

i want to wear bones

[languid path]

hey so ggg uses red text for unsupported mechanic too

[fallen tulip]

Bone Armor?

[worn hill]

bone barrier + crab barrier :O

[fallen tulip]

whats bone barrier

[spice comet]

Trickster changes?

[native sonnet]

no, that's pob

[fallen tulip]

oh the name of the node

[runic fractal]

I wonder if it reserves mana... Bone Armour

[spice comet]

What trick changes

[lone chasm]

ghost dance nerfed again

curious about assassin changes

[worldly scaffold]

ghost dance nerfed?

where

[runic fractal]

Oh nvm, it says a skill, so i guess it's a over time thingy, like Bone armour in d2!

[spice comet]

We have a link for the trick change?

[lucid stone]

Is there a way I can see all the leaks?

[violet nymph]

I wouldn't be surprised if this stuff isn't the final product

[runic fractal]

They're compiling it in a imgur album right now i think

[spice comet]

Uly is getting an album up

[worn hill]

??? where'd the leak post go?

[karmic nimbus]

trickster

[spice comet]

Ty

[worldly scaffold]

ty

[stable socket]

Post got hidden from the front page

[spice comet]

Not surprising

[worn hill]

:(

[violet nymph]

Hah, no more stun immunity for trickster

[worn hill]

unhide it

[native osprey]

[karmic nimbus]

stun immunity is on the other node

[worldly scaffold]

||https://imgur.com/a/4TYyGdQ|| FULL ALBUM WITH NEW NOTABLES AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF

[stark forge]

the necro aura node RIP

[lucid stone]

What happens if you use intuitive leap with the unlockable notables? o.o

[stable socket]

Commander of darkness is gone?

Rip

[worldly scaffold]

necro overall op op

[delicate acorn]

nobody used necro aura node tbh

[lucid stone]

Can you grab thunderous salvos with intuitive leap?

[native sonnet]

looking at corpse pact, hhow many corpse can u consume in 4 seconds with VD/DD hmmmmm

[worldly scaffold]

I mean commander of darkness is still here?

@lucid stone nope

[delicate acorn]

commander is still in the pictures ive seen

we just havent seen the node itself

[spice cipher]

Juicy leaks

[lucid stone]

How bad is 0.5% basecrit nerf

[worn hill]

it's about .5% less

[languid path]

7% less overall crit

so not very

[lucid stone]

WHY IS THAT MINE CLUSTER SO DEEP IN THE DEX SIDE

[delicate acorn]

slayer base crit nerf is honestly pretty reasonable

[fallen tulip]

because you need to do Projectile Attack mines

[delicate acorn]

i dont know why they gave him higher base crit than any weapon type in the game

[worldly scaffold]

tbh

[karmic nimbus]

cuz acro op

[worldly scaffold]

im hyped for pyroclast mines now

[fierce torrent]

was this posted yet?

[delicate acorn]

was what posted

[karmic nimbus]

pyroclast mines seem crazy

oh shit

[fallen tulip]

when was the last time league stuff was leaked?

or patch notes or stuff

[worldly scaffold]

synth

[fierce torrent]

in synthesis

[worldly scaffold]

30 minutes before the reveal what the league is

[fierce torrent]

lotsa images

[worldly scaffold]

dude

[fierce torrent]

they all seemd fake af

[worn hill]

oh fuk i thought they just changed the phasing ones

[worldly scaffold]

that raider is fake

[pulsar blade]

That raider post is a fake leak from the last league

[snow cairn]

the fake raider is hilarious

[fierce torrent]

oh

sorry

[worn hill]

oh

lame

[worldly scaffold]

I think its fake?

[karmic nimbus]

RIP

[worldly scaffold]

I remember seeing something like that

[fallen tulip]

aww i wanted to read it

[worldly scaffold]

before legion

as someone who proposed these as raider changes

[lucid stone]

I wonder what free pathfinder for mana flasks can do.

[worn hill]

makes sense since the rest were path of building

[worldly scaffold]

it also doesnt include the Avatar of Veil changes

that were found in that JSON

[lucid stone]

Indigon + reduced flask charges hallowed mana flask?

[snow cairn]

not to mention the fake raider image is horribly photoshopped

[karmic nimbus]

yea it conflicts with the json leak

[worldly scaffold]

@lucid stone if anything you'd use sanctified or eternal

[lucid stone]

What's scion sabo got? Probably 10% regen and 25% aura effect?

[fallen tulip]

any during flask effect effects with 20sec duration mana flask, the only build i rmb using that was the Souleater belt one

[worn hill]

indigon

[fallen tulip]

hmm is that +1 to Unleash Seals a good node? isn't the current one 3 or 4 extra casts

3 extra casts yea

[lucid stone]

Current one is your cast with three extra casts

So 4 total casts

[worldly scaffold]

current is 3 extra casts

so its a lot

[lucid stone]

This makes 5 total casts

[fallen tulip]

0.71 sec more

[worldly scaffold]

yeah but thats another bop

[snow cairn]

good for srs/bv

[worldly scaffold]

and it scales with CS

doesnt it

[fierce torrent]

wait why did they remove the 40% damage from raider's avatar of the veil

[lucid stone]

I wonder if we'll find a unique that's like "Unleash has +2 seals"

[fallen tulip]

yeah its good for stuff that actually doesnt have to be held down

[delicate acorn]

do the effects repeat while you move

[worldly scaffold]

@fierce torrent prolly buffs to other stuff

[fierce torrent]

there better damn be some

😠

[fallen tulip]

if unleash gets beyond 5 casts it's going to be our Minigun support

[lucid stone]

I don't know how I feel about support gem passives and ascendancies giving skills

[worn hill]

i like it myself

[lucid stone]

It's...interesting.

[snow cairn]

pulverize already gives a skill

[fierce torrent]

+2 to minions necro node tho

[lucid stone]

No one is ever gonna use ancestral call again~

[delicate acorn]

i mean we already kinda had support gem passives via mines, traps, totems

[worn hill]

fuck anc call

[delicate acorn]

i mean, you do give up another notable passive for fake AC

[lucid stone]

Too bad you can only have one of the passives at a time without the anointed set

[fallen tulip]

ascendancies giving skills strays off from what they were originally doing but it seems like every Ascendancy focuses on their own niche mechanics. and if they don't they get added stuff so they do.

[worldly scaffold]

I mean, bone armour is probably just some defensive skill

[snow cairn]

the boots are decent enough, i can see the rest of the uniques being alright

[lucid stone]

I don't wanna use a specific ascendancy for a specific skill. D:

[worldly scaffold]

I dont think its that far off from something that says' you have a 500 hp shield that regenerates over time'

[fallen tulip]

Bone armour makes me think of Arctic Armour and Infused Channeling support

[lucid stone]

I want synergies, but not boundaries.

Arctic armour that leaves bone roil trail?

[snow cairn]

it's probably just a support skill

[fallen tulip]

lol that'd be cool

[worldly scaffold]

probably just extra hp

[solemn tiger]

If this trend continues, soon every ascendancy circle will look like Scion's Ascendant one.

[worn hill]

i want unique stuff and i feel like the bone thing is unique

[fallen tulip]

corpse trail

[lucid stone]

It proably sacrifices your skeles for some damage reduction or another damage pool

[worldly scaffold]

@fierce torrent anything new?

[delicate acorn]

god i need to see what necro has for skellies

[lucid stone]

Like molten shell, but like 500 damage per skele

[fallen tulip]

the +2 to minion gems isn't really unique

[fierce torrent]

lemme f5 it

[midnight galleon]

bone armour defensive skill very astute

[fierce torrent]

thread seems dead

[midnight galleon]

question is if for self or minions

[fierce torrent]

maybe there some 'page 2' im not aware of

[midnight galleon]

or targeted cast

[worldly scaffold]

send me the lin kagain

ill check it

[fallen tulip]

the thread didnt even have all leaks in the imgur album now

[fierce torrent]

https://2ch.hk/vg/res/31084695.html

[lucid stone]

Anyone got leaks on scion sabo?

[fierce torrent]

i wish someone would post the json

would make life easier for everybody

[lucid stone]

AAAAH RUSSIAN

[fierce torrent]

yup

[wind copper]

I think the thread is dead because it's not on the first 3 pages any more for some reason

[delicate acorn]

looks like they started a new thread

[fallen tulip]

1000 replies could be when thread gets locked

[delicate acorn]

https://2ch.hk/vg/res/31135421.html

[fierce torrent]

i thought 1000 replies was the bump limit

[modest walrus]

@fierce torrent but then nobody is mad at not having the json anymore

[delicate acorn]

no leaks so far

[fierce torrent]

if anyone needs something translated lmk 👀

i speak the cyka lingo

[lucid stone]

Is there any 'scion' in there

[worldly scaffold]

I just use google translator

because it works great

lol

[solemn tiger]

This is the next one
https://2ch.hk/vg/res/31135421.html

[fierce torrent]

check the stuff i posted

thats all the images i found there

do a search in this room with this text:
from: Master2080#9686 has: image

[worldly scaffold]

or

you can just use

[runic fractal]

https://2ch.hk/vg/src/31135421/15670976290010.png

[worldly scaffold]

https://imgur.com/a/4TYyGdQ

that handy album

[fierce torrent]

it has everything?

[worldly scaffold]

that has 4 extra pics

that master havent posted

here

[fierce torrent]

ah

alrighty

[delicate acorn]

oh christ

[fierce torrent]

screw my posts then

[delicate acorn]

oh jesus oh fuck

[worldly scaffold]

I miss one thing

[lucid stone]

Corpse Aurabot? 🤔

[delicate acorn]

no hcbe for skellies

[lucid stone]

Shocking desecrate? ow0

[runic fractal]

https://2ch.hk/vg/src/31135421/15670976290010.png did anyone see this?

[fierce torrent]

not in that format, no

[worldly scaffold]

added 2 extra pictures

https://imgur.com/a/4TYyGdQ

check the album if you will

[delicate acorn]

necro dead

[lucid stone]

No more global duration

[fierce torrent]

i really want to know the mine mana cost

[lucid stone]

How useful is Transcendence?

[worldly scaffold]

really.

[lucid stone]

-110 phys damage taken at level 100?

[worldly scaffold]

yeah thats a lot

[wind copper]

Apparently

[worldly scaffold]

pair that up with delve armour

[native osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cx3j9t/please_keep_all_leaks_here/

[worldly scaffold]

for -160 taken from hits

[fierce torrent]

bone armor sounds like a d2 thing

[native osprey]

feel free to post there and only there on the subreddit

[worldly scaffold]

alright

[lucid stone]

Thanks ferret

[fallen tulip]

wew

that Assassin tree with 1 WAY OFF THE CLUSTER node

[worn hill]

leeks

[fallen tulip]

https://i.imgur.com/PtLv61S.png

[native osprey]

thank zaccie

[lucid stone]

Whats it do tho

[fierce torrent]

ye that assassin tree looks like it's doing a kick

[fallen tulip]

elusive i suppose

[worldly scaffold]

we dont know

prolly elusive

[worn hill]

@normal ginkgo thank mr zaccie

[fallen tulip]

kung fu assassin

[lucid stone]

FB assassin

[fallen tulip]

is there a ninja costume besides Jun in PoE?

[wind copper]

Like MTX gear? Not really

[lucid stone]

Why don't they make the base characters get a model change when you ascend?

[wind copper]

4.0 feature ;-P

[distant rock]

Any more sab nodes?

[lucid stone]

I don't think so.

Just the mine branch, pyromaniac, and the pen one I never take

[worn hill]

what would they change to the model?

[fallen tulip]

hair?

[lucid stone]

Give assassin his mask thing?

[fallen tulip]

idk

[lucid stone]

Iunno

[fallen tulip]

base clothes?

[worn hill]

like pick elementalist and start getting sparks?

pick necromancer and grow a cup size

[fallen tulip]

ToS has a custom costume for every class

they could add like a MTX effect you can toggle on ascendancy

they alrdy gave us the mtx helm from killing crab

[lucid stone]

Is that cluster above the claw wheel by ghost reaver new?

Looks like traps and mines

[worldly scaffold]

which one

[runic fractal]

Necromancer can get +50% to all resistance now

[worldly scaffold]

apparatus?

[lucid stone]

I'm not sure. It's by fingers of frost.

To the left of Ghost Reaver

[worldly scaffold]

oh yeah

hasnt been posted yet

yeah defo new

thats the current tree^

[lucid stone]

Well it's by the spellcrit nodes, and if I'm grabbing clever construction, I might pick it up.

[delicate acorn]

well im glad i did skellies now

[worldly scaffold]

im gonna go miner and I like the changes

[lucid stone]

Is the bottom dagger notable a different art now?

[fallen tulip]

umm

[trail relic]

Those nerfs to regen though, and no mre clear mind shenanigans either, survivability looks a bit iffy this time

[sour mountain]

oo

avatar of the veil buff

that's one of my favorite raider perks

[fierce torrent]

'buff'

[lucid stone]

I'm not sure how I feel about the hinder thing

[fierce torrent]

but yeah its nice

[delicate acorn]

precision is gonna be mandatory on skellies now

[trail relic]

It might be good with hinder, but all it takes is 1 slipup

[lucid stone]

Sabo doesn't really sound too fun.

Good, but not really fun.

Necro looks like a bag of goodies though.

I was kinda hoping for a skitterbot 2 pointer~

[delicate acorn]

i dont like the reliance on corpses for half the nodes

[lucid stone]

Scion sabo when

[snow cairn]

there might be a unique that gives a third bot that ignites 😄

[lucid stone]

TREMOR ROD WHEN

[runic fractal]

Skitterbot on necro or sabo? @lucid stone

[lucid stone]

Sabo

[trail relic]

Not sure Sabo looks good even, with that regen nerf

[runic fractal]

ok ^_^

[lucid stone]

Why would necro get skitters

[trail relic]

because theyre cute ;)

[snow cairn]

skitters are minions right?

[fallen tulip]

can you even do minion mines?=

[runic fractal]

Yeah your msg was just confusing it up, so i thought i'd ask, cuz it didn't make sense to me

[lucid stone]

Yes but they're mineions

[modest walrus]

@trail relic yeah that nerf is definitely not the way to go to get people interested in mines lmao

[trail relic]

badumtss

[lucid stone]

You can link srs to remote mine

Doesn't do more damage anymore

Like it hasn't for a while

[snow cairn]

you get maaaassive aoe now

[delicate acorn]

im also not very happy that they seem to want necros to be ES based

[worldly scaffold]

ping me when you have new leaks

guys

I'll post instantly

[sour mountain]

srs remote mines seems crap

[lucid stone]

6% aoe * 23 mines

[runic fractal]

Isn't it something about, the moment the mine releases the SrS, it stops counting as a mine?

[sour mountain]

i would rather use SRS unleash

[delicate acorn]

i guess the es/mana regen could be for eb/mom

[lucid stone]

So sabo got buffed from 88% inc aoe to 138% inc aoe

[sour mountain]

also it looks like necromancers have a lot of perks based around consuming corpses; this makes me happy

[fallen tulip]

you can only get 4-5 SRS out with unleash tho right?

[lucid stone]

And now also scales with aura aoe

[sour mountain]

maybe i'll play sylvanas this league

[lucid stone]

Necros even better aurabots now?

Unless you play with someone that kills corpses

When's bl3 coming out anyway

[sour mountain]

it seems like you buff yourself for consuming corpses

[delicate acorn]

i mean its gotta be unnatural strength, bone barrier and plaguebringer for skellies now i think

[sour mountain]

but not your friends

(well, minions, yes)

[snow cairn]

bl3 is a week after blight starts

[lucid stone]

It says 10% more damage to you and allies if there's a corpse nearby

[delicate acorn]

"you and nearby allies get regen" "you and nearby allies get damage"

[lucid stone]

And 10% reduced damage dealth

[snow cairn]

reduced damage death

[delicate acorn]

surprised it's not "1% per corpse, up to 10"

[grave valve]

huh

turn all mana flasks into flasks of warding? neat

[lucid stone]

Removes a curse

not all curses

right?

[delicate acorn]

doesnt make you immune

map curses still apply

[lucid stone]

So might not work on

[grave valve]

yea

[lucid stone]

yeah map curses

Or soul mantle

[spice cipher]

Plus who runs a mana flask?

[fallen tulip]

Pitch Black armour set looks like the "ninja" set

[grave valve]

well that's only for when you're cursed more than once

[worldly scaffold]

@spice cipher indigon builds

and miners

[grave valve]

iirc basic curse cap on players is 1

[lucid stone]

Miners might run a mana flask now.

[grave valve]

just like basic player curse cap is 1

[fleet garden]

anything on the assassin ?

[grave valve]

and only maps can bypass that limitation

[fallen tulip]

looking at the video the mine mana reservation wasnt too much

[lucid stone]

Cause no EB

[trail relic]

Laviangas probably

[lucid stone]

Unless you reserve mana but use ES

[fallen tulip]

maybe 0,2-0,5% mana per mine

[spice cipher]

I never found a reason to run one with mana on hit or leech

[delicate acorn]

yeah the reservation hovered around 50% regardless of mine count so i figure they prolly had skitterbots as a main reservation

[spice cipher]

But also haven’t played most builds

[grave valve]

unnatural strength

is so boring

[spice comet]

I can't imagine mine res is %

[lucid stone]

I suppose maybe a really big mana flask with mana leech would be on like a kitava's thirst attack build

but there's not many attacks that have huge mana cost

[fallen tulip]

he has an aura too

idk if thats Clarity or what

[grave valve]

"hey yea we just gonna give you +2 to all your minion gem levels"

aight ok

[fallen tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXoB690C5Q4

[grave valve]

literally the most boring ascendancy node possible

[delicate acorn]

good luck getting them to hit anything tho

[fallen tulip]

at 1:04 you can see him stacking 19 mines

[lucid stone]

I agree that it's boring.

But it is strong

Especially for dark pact. owo

[grave valve]

yea

but what the fuck is this

[delicate acorn]

it's an extra support gem for every minion

[lucid stone]

AND DARK PACT

[grave valve]

"increases and reductions to maximum energy shield applies to spell damage at half its value" or w/e

the fuck

[spice cipher]

I have always felt like mines are supposed to be a super big burst damage, not necessarily stacked damage like they are now. Kinda weird

[grave valve]

dark pact is a minion skill, pywocwastic

[lucid stone]

Yeah, there's one for life too

[grave valve]

we know

[fierce torrent]

smaller pls gwar

[lucid stone]

Mines detonated at the same time should be calculated as one hit imo

[fierce torrent]

where'd that come from?

[fallen tulip]

https://2ch.hk/vg/res/31135421.html

from here

[wind copper]

Cull on crit?

LOL

[modest walrus]

oh there's the Ass

[fierce torrent]

wait no more base crit?

[wind copper]

On Assassin, that 'just means "cull"

[lucid stone]

So basically the same?

[fallen tulip]

ass.png

[spice comet]

Base crit is coming from the new supp

[wind copper]

Does red mean changed?

[spice comet]

Nightblade

[fallen tulip]

red means stuff PoB can't calculate right?

[lucid stone]

No extra crit damage while elusive

ooh

[wind copper]

Ah yeah

[lucid stone]

YEah

[grave valve]

lmao there's a notable that's legit

-10 phys dmg taken from hits

[lucid stone]

Assassin still has +2 crit tho

[grave valve]

i like that

[lucid stone]

-110 phys damage taken from attack hits

[fierce torrent]

via poison?

[fallen tulip]

50% chance to gain Elusive on crit?

[fierce torrent]

or is it just cropped out?

[spice cipher]

I thought there would be more poison nodes

[spice comet]

That seems... useless?

[sour mountain]

there kinda are tier

[fallen tulip]

theres literally 1 new node lol

[sour mountain]

at least, in the tree

since a lot of nacdot nodes are becoming just cdot nots

nodes

[lucid stone]

Lots of tree changes though look sweet

[spice cipher]

For assassin I mean

[fallen tulip]

yeah cdot will be good for poison builds now

[normal kraken]

I'm glad they kept the poison duration node

[delicate acorn]

assassin's poison nodes are strong enough

[sour mountain]

also, are the new 'hidden' nodes actually on the tree? can reach them with um

[normal kraken]

I was sure they would rework it out

[sour mountain]

intuitive leap

[grave valve]

YAS

[lucid stone]

That;s what I wonder.

[fallen tulip]

also assassin can get +4% critical strike chance ( total) with uhh 5 poisons on enemy and max power charges?

[lucid stone]

Intuitive leap skyrockets

[grave valve]

MISTRESS OF SACRIFICE BACK UP to 75 % from 50%!!!!

uwu

[delicate acorn]

they might not exist without being allocated

[lucid stone]

On scion, too?

[delicate acorn]

ye

[pulsar blade]

Toxic Delivery is buffed....they changed it from 20 poisons to 5 poisons to get the max base crit per poison. And 50% more dmg on a poison crit from 30

[delicate acorn]

mistress is good now

[lucid stone]

Yay. :>

I completely forgot assassin had basecrit on poison.

[fallen tulip]

no need for Power charges anymore if you go poison?

[delicate acorn]

you can go blocktank necro again

[grave valve]

yea

[spice cipher]

I don’t think I have enough knowledge to judge things fairly

[lucid stone]

Cranktank WW necro!

[grave valve]

i actually will do that probably

1% pdr & 3% ele res per minion? up to 10 minions out?

hell yea

[delicate acorn]

crank is for es isnt it

[grave valve]

ye

[lucid stone]

Starts ES recharge on block

[delicate acorn]

i was thinking the life on block from offering

[lucid stone]

Why not both

Go hybrid

[delicate acorn]

i guess?

[lucid stone]

Spirit offering gives life as ES

extra hybrid

[delicate acorn]

yeah but like

you cant have both

[lucid stone]

Only one at a time tho

yeah

[fallen tulip]

i wonder how fast the Elusive buff wears off

1% per second, 5% per second, 10% per second

[lucid stone]

Probably 4 seconds ish

[fallen tulip]

so 25% per second?

[lucid stone]

Maybe it drains faster the longer you have it up

like berserk

[grave valve]

i think that's how they said it works

[fallen tulip]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvjSMZTY6s

[grave valve]

it's either like that or flat linear

[fallen tulip]

at 0:10 it looks like it goes 5% 4 times per second

so maybe 20% per second?

[grave valve]

anyway im

[fallen tulip]

or even faster idk

[lucid stone]

Tremor Rod when? owo;

[grave valve]

excited & disappointed in the new changes

for necro that is

[lucid stone]

If they just make it a stick with increased mine aura effect I'ma be mad

[grave valve]

cuz +2 to minion skill gems boring af, wish they did somethin neat with it

but they also now allow for a general corpse detonating playstyle

[wind copper]

Why do we have 20% increased Mine Detonation Speed, when the devs revealed yesterday that mine det is instant?

[spice cipher]

Elusive reminds me of that monk mastery in wow

[spice comet]

@wind copper they speed up in chain

[pulsar blade]

It maybe means how fast the chain of mine triggers

[spice comet]

^

[wind copper]

Ah

[fallen tulip]

the +2 minion skill gem is simple

b o l d

[grave valve]

yea that's why i don't like it

the other ones are like

[delicate acorn]

i want more simple ascendancy effects.

[fallen tulip]

i like it because it's so bold. seems simple but you can benefit greatly from it

[grave valve]

generic increases but all around i.e. dmg & movespeed, or they do cool shit like regen 2% of ES near corpses

[delicate acorn]

i don't wanna have to think "alright so ive consumed 13 corpses that means there's 5 left and my desecrate is on cooldown, do my minions have the area buff? is there a corpse close enough for the more dmg?"

[fallen tulip]

+2 minion skill gem allows for higher leveled minions right?

[delicate acorn]

more shit to have to maintain

[grave valve]

yea

[delicate acorn]

yes

[grave valve]

and no, it's not to maintain

[spice comet]

Your minions will kill everything before you even get those thoughts

[fallen tulip]

so think of it as +level of minions node

[sour mountain]

i want more ascendancy effects that are unnecessarily complicated

[delicate acorn]

it's just a flat lv3 empower for every skill gem with the minion tag

[grave valve]

yea

[fallen tulip]

imagine if it was +2 minion level instead

[grave valve]

but it is?

[delicate acorn]

what the fuck do you mean minion level

[tulip warren]

it is tho...

[delicate acorn]

minions themselves don't have levels

except spectres

[wind copper]

Kinda looking like Necro is the solid choice for cheap speccing, grabbing a tab ras, rushing shaper, and then figuring out what class I want to play?

[tulip warren]

brb necro best defensive ascendancy for everything once again

[spice comet]

^

[grave valve]

yea

[delicate acorn]

so thinking of "+2 to minion gems" as "+2 to minion level" for whatever reason is just not...useful

[spice comet]

Exactly what imma do courage

[grave valve]

just cwdt offering (bone or spirit) run uh

[sour mountain]

is it +2 to minion skill gem

or +2 to minion gem

[fallen tulip]

the way it is now affects everything with minion tag

[delicate acorn]

skill gem

[tulip warren]

automate spirit offering with cwdt and pwn away

[delicate acorn]

small brain: cwdt offerings

[fallen tulip]

i was trying to offer an alternative view to calling it boring

[sour mountain]

or you can automate with the uh

[delicate acorn]

big brain: trigger spell on skill use wand

[fallen tulip]

could always be worse

[sour mountain]

syndicate chestpiece

[grave valve]

commander of darkness, mistress of sacrifice, & pick between corpse pact/essence glutton

[tulip warren]

tiny brain: only cast spirit offering every 5 seconds

[sour mountain]

the catarina uniques will be dumb as hell with new necromancer ascendancy

automatically consuming corpses and healing up a bunch

[grave valve]

yea

i actually almost feel like the tree is too bogged

[wind copper]

Devouring

[spice comet]

Eb necro 0_0

[wind copper]

I'm interested to see if Catarina's really worth running

[delicate acorn]

oh huh, there's a thought

necro also lost poison cloud

[grave valve]

yea

it lost poison cloud, spectre specialization, skeleton specialization

[delicate acorn]

honestly i'm not satisfied with the necro changes

[sour mountain]

new minion gems are gonna be juicy

especially if Carrion Golem does well

[grave valve]

it didn't lose zombie specialization (% pdr per minion out, % ele per minion out & dmg moved to gem)

[snow cairn]

the poison cloud was moved to that belt

[grave valve]

it will

[delicate acorn]

it'll still be strong but they straight up do not want you to play any specific minion

[sour mountain]

you get two carrion golems npnp as a necromancer

[delicate acorn]

if you try to specialize fuck you

[proven wadi]

You specialize with gear

[sour mountain]

maybe they want you to specialize with

yeah

that thing

[snow cairn]

why can't you specialize?

[grave valve]

ok but like how

[sour mountain]

gear + unique jewels

[delicate acorn]

oh yeah lemme just uuuuh specialize with +1 skeleton

[spice comet]

Spec gear

Todust

[grave valve]

unique jewels sure

[spice comet]

Fromdust

[pulsar blade]

There is a new belt that gives poison cloud on minion death

[grave valve]

gear?

[sour mountain]

you can specialize with like...

[snow cairn]

why is not being able to specialize a bad thing?

[delicate acorn]

you can do meme builds with gear sure

[snow cairn]

are options bad?

[sour mountain]

+1+1 mod on chestpiece from veiled, +1 spectre on chestpiece from delve, +minion damage/speed items from the Temple, etc etc

[grave valve]

no

[proven wadi]

there are uniques for all kinds of minion effects

[grave valve]

but here's the thing

[sour mountain]

like...

[fleet garden]

Elusive for assassin ? do we already know what Elusive give ?

[fallen tulip]

was this in the album alrdy http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1567099627766.png

http://boards.4channel.org/vg/thread/264210945#p264233578

[sour mountain]

how do you specialize between Molten Strike and Something Else That Hits People And Burns Them Strike

[delicate acorn]

it's not that "having options" is bad it's that they've taken away any reason to actually pick something

[grave valve]

yea

if you like "oh hey i wanna raise zombies" then you pick zombies

[sour mountain]

you change your links and you change your uniques to abuse molten strike's projectile behavior

[proven wadi]

The reasons are more vague now is all

[grave valve]

if you like "i'm running a spectre build" then you pick the spectre node

[wind copper]

You mean they've picked necro for us ;-P

[grave valve]

nope

[proven wadi]

It's less "I am zombie I take x node always"

[grave valve]

ok sure

but that was a GOOD part about necro

[delicate acorn]

mostly im just salty about the skeleton node being removed

[proven wadi]

Is it tho

[grave valve]

because you decided which minion to invest in

yea

[delicate acorn]

yes exactly stolas

[grave valve]

it's like occultist

[snow cairn]

the skeleton node got put on the gem

[wind copper]

These are fair comments.

[grave valve]

do you want the shit ton energy shield or do you want bonus curses and power charge?

[delicate acorn]

not the important part

[grave valve]

or it's like raider

[hot quail]

Gems got buffed and skellies naturally move faster now

[snow cairn]

if you wanted to play skeletons you were forced to pick the node

now you have options

[proven wadi]

The problem was it made necro the only thing that could use minions effectively

[wind copper]

"Take all these good nodes because they're good" isn't interesting, yeah

[delicate acorn]

yes, and they're all worse than the node

[grave valve]

pick 2 of 3 - frenzy charges, elemental damage, onslaught

[snow cairn]

you don't need to pick the node since it's been baked into the gem

why is that a bad thing

[grave valve]

that makes raider inherently interesting

[delicate acorn]

oh yeah>?

show me where the gem says "skeleton hits cant be evaded"

i.e. the IMPORTANT part

[sour mountain]

like tbh it seems like i'm going to be playing a Summon Phantasm On Kill necromancer

[grave valve]

@proven wadi i mean, yeah, that was an issue

[snow cairn]

oops, forgot about that part my b

[grave valve]

but it could have been resolved w/o deleting the matter of choice

[sour mountain]

is that a specialization tho

or is it just a requirement for playing skellingtons

[hot quail]

Minion accuracy is easy enough to get I wouldn't worry

[snow cairn]

there's more options for minion accuracy compared to when they added that to the node

[lucid stone]

Are any necro builds not gonna take the +2 minion gems?

[snow cairn]

aurabots

[grave valve]

^

[hot quail]

Necro poets vd not going to take those nodes

[sour mountain]

summon phantasm on hit won't want it

[grave valve]

or builds that only consume corpses

[sour mountain]

but generally speaking yes, you will want it

actually... if i play spoh i won't take it

[snow cairn]

vd might go necro for the corpses

[sour mountain]

if my only other minion is carrion golem

[radiant lance]

The necro nodes look like a hard choice tbh

[grave valve]

i.e. mistress of sac, commander of dark, plague bringer, and pick between essence glutton or corpse pact depending on how you roll

[radiant lance]

There are a lot of okay choices

[snow cairn]

they're not splashy

but they're still strong

[grave valve]

i wanna know what the bone armour skill is

[delicate acorn]

i just hate that it seems to want you to juggle corpses on the ground and corpse consumption

[grave valve]

eh

there's benefit to leaving the corpses on the ground

[proven wadi]

I think that's fine

[lucid stone]

Enemies you kill make corpses

[grave valve]

yea

[fallen tulip]

i wonder if carrion golem can be mtx'd into Clockwork Golem

[proven wadi]

You don't even always consume all the corpses you make

[lyric ore]

its not like you consume every corpse

[lucid stone]

What if there was a node that was 'enemies you kill create an additional corpse'

[grave valve]

there are 2 different types of nodes as well

[radiant lance]

I assume some kind of physical defensive thing

[sour mountain]

on boss fights

[radiant lance]

As a guess

Maybe physical damage reduction

[sour mountain]

you will use unearth to create corpses to consume

[grave valve]

there's 1 that has passive regen & active regen on corpse consumption

[delicate acorn]

like it encourages concumption so you can get offerings and burst regen but then you dont get shock and chill or the 10% more

[grave valve]

and there's 1 that's legit "10% MORE damage if there is a corpse nearby"

ok becasue those are separate nodes

[lucid stone]

Great for almost any party

Except windripper mfs

[snow cairn]

fucking "nearby"

[grave valve]

nearby has a wide range

[delicate acorn]

ok how about corpse pact

[lucid stone]

Unless!

[grave valve]

so

[lucid stone]

You use aukuna will gloves

[grave valve]

yea what about corpse pact

[lucid stone]

then you always have a corpse nearby

[proven wadi]

Ggg needs to define nearby better

[radiant lance]

I feel like +2 to minions is like super good but darn it feels bad with only one stat on a node

[delicate acorn]

it makes you choose between corpse consumption and corpse-littering bonuses

[snow cairn]

they're never going to define nearby

[grave valve]

yea

[snow cairn]

they hate putting ranges

so they just lump everything into "nearby"

[lucid stone]

Aukuna's Will seems really good for always having a corpse nearby.

[delicate acorn]

put all the corpse consumption stuff on one path and all the corpse-littering on another

[grave valve]

eh sure

at the same time tho

the corpse consumption passives aren't just for offerings

[delicate acorn]

instead of making you choose between half of every node

[grave valve]

detonate dead, volatile dead, cremation, etc.

[vast berry]

if those raider changes are real

im mega excite

[sour mountain]

what are the other raider changes

[grave valve]

yea i like avatar of the veil now

[sour mountain]

i've only seen the new avatar of the veil

[vast berry]

ye the phasing one actually seems better now

[proven wadi]

I still don't like raiders onslaught stuff

[vast berry]

also bruh

8% evasion per frenzy

its not like raider already had over 100% increased evasion ez

[delicate acorn]

i think it's just gonna be unnatural strength and bone barrier on every necro that isnt doing something weird

[grave valve]

yea, raider is very defensive now

[low kindle]

Has someone leaked raider changes?

[grave valve]

mistress of sacrifice? commander of darkness?

[patent canyon]

raider is on?

[grave valve]

both are basically same as before

[patent canyon]

gimme gimme link

[delicate acorn]

commander of darkness league start, swap to plaguebringer or mistress later

[vast berry]

raider was always pretty defensive

[grave valve]

also non-weird

[vast berry]

but this does make it pretty meme

this is EXACTLY what i was saying would be good btw

[grave heart]

What is the point in nerfing assasin-scion in terms of crit strike chance?
Is 1% base crit too powerful?
10% chance to gain Elusive on kill is shit, imo. No Elusive on bosses.

[vast berry]

and LOOk

[grave valve]

raider is fragile for sure tho

[vast berry]

they literally just buffed

[lucid stone]

Enfeeble + Blind + Arrow Dancing + Raider Onslaught evasion bonus + Enemies have 15% less accuracy + Dread Banner?

[vast berry]

the defensive

[hot quail]

Ignore mistress and go queens hunger

[grave valve]

dafuq is queens hunger

[vast berry]

not saying i called it but

i called it?

[lucid stone]

Catarina chest

[sour mountain]

ho dear

[hot quail]

Catarina body armor

[sour mountain]

that's a lot of damage added to raider

[proven wadi]

Raider with sand stance = immune to attacks

[vast berry]

ye

[fallen tulip]

dont forget banners

[grave valve]

queen's hunger literally deletes uh

mistress

huh

[lucid stone]

Arrow Dancing worth it on raider?

[vast berry]

slap on 20% chance to ignore physical damage

yeet

[sour mountain]

i'm calling it now

ice shot raider

[low kindle]

Is that someone editing the PoB files and screenshotting the changes?

[sour mountain]

is gonna delete the Blight mechanic

[lucid stone]

Is chance to hit still 5% at the lowest?

Or did that change with accuracy

[patent canyon]

0%

[low kindle]

We don't know

[lucid stone]

So you're actually immune to attacks and have 100% evade?

[snow cairn]

it's still an entropy system so you will get hit

[vast berry]

cant get 100% evade

90% right?

then blind makes it essentially 95

[patent canyon]

95.... i think...

[lucid stone]

But I thought they changed how accuracy works

[grave heart]

Does everyone saw Slayer nerfs and Scion reworks?

[proven wadi]

I wonder about that +5% evade chance

[lucid stone]

So that it's 0% to 100%

[hot quail]

Add aspect of the cat and phase run for more dodge

[patent canyon]

didnt change how evasion dodge works

[lucid stone]

And withering step elusive

[patent canyon]

you cant have 100%

[lucid stone]

But doesn't evasion work off accuracy?

[low kindle]

I think blind applies before raider more

[vast berry]

blind is after everything

[grave heart]

Slayer nerfs: https://imgur.com/deAyNYp https://imgur.com/Q5OoWIg

[proven wadi]

Blind just straight up halves chance to hit

[vast berry]

just 50% less

after everything else

[wind copper]

4shadow:
https://imgur.com/a/4TYyGdQ

[grave heart]

Ascendant changes: https://imgur.com/YHFI5Av

[patent canyon]

0.5% crit nerf

[lucid stone]

You can never get above 50% chance to hit with blind on accuracy alone, right?

[wind copper]

4shadow, we know

[patent canyon]

lmao

[languid path]

@lucid stone

[vast berry]

where are these coming from lmao

[lyric ore]

the hacker known as 4chan

[vast berry]

if these raider changes are real, im 100% playing it

[pulsar blade]

95% chance to evade + 75 chance to dodge = 98.75 chance to just dont get hit?

[grave heart]

from russian forum

[snow cairn]

some people are saying they datamined a json

[dreamy notch]

from someone who can't keep their alpha access to themselves

[lucid stone]

I think I might go sabo/necro scion. 🤔

[snow cairn]

others are saying it's an alpha leaker

[lucid stone]

And use cwdt spirit offering

[languid path]

essentially chance to hit cannot be lower than 5%, meaning that evasion cannot be higher than 95%

[vast berry]

kinda sad someone is doing this

[snow cairn]

would an alpha tester have access to the json though?

[vast berry]

cus ggg might get defnsive

in the future

[wind copper]

I mean, if not an alpha leaker, how'd they get json?

[snow cairn]

datamine the patch that just came out?

[grave heart]

Maybe look into ggpk file? I suspect? all of these are there.

[low kindle]

Bruhs these are path of building screenshots

Anyone can make them

[snow cairn]

the json was imported into pob

[wind copper]

Ah, that would be a big mistake if they pushed this in current 3.75b or whatever. LOL.

[snow cairn]

the question is where the json came from

[spice comet]

^

[vast berry]

or

[lucid stone]

I'd be happy if this was all fake.

[vast berry]

they just edited the text file

[lucid stone]

Then I get to be hyped twice. ^w^

[wet plaza]

id not be

[snow cairn]

it's not that easy

[vast berry]

i hope its not real

becuase then ggg wont get weird about early access for people

[snow cairn]

considering all the art assets look legit

[worldly scaffold]

okay any new leaks?

[lucid stone]

Sabo scion when

Tremor rod when

[wet plaza]

there is no "EA" for people

[modest walrus]

did you catch the full Ass and Raider ascendancy? @worldly scaffold

[grave heart]

there are new icons. So it is unlikely, that this is fake.

[worldly scaffold]

full raider?

[radiant lance]

Tbh I like a lot of the changes I've seen so far

[vast berry]

http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1567099627766.png

[modest walrus]

just minor changes

[snow cairn]

full assassin has been posted?

[radiant lance]

So I won't be sad if they are true

[modest walrus]

but they're there

[placid grotto]

These can't be real because we all know patch notes are delayed because that's when they make the changes

[worldly scaffold]

so

one new mod?

[vast berry]

lmao

uly

[spice comet]

@snow cairn

[worldly scaffold]

they may be the alpha version of these @placid grotto

[snow cairn]

the big reason patch notes take so long is they have to be translated

[worldly scaffold]

translated + written

lol

[radiant lance]

I mean they were going to show necro this weekend so it's not like they didn't have preliminary data already it's almost the weekend

[vast berry]

i still stand by raider being pretty strong right now

[modest walrus]

@placid grotto probs just early version that wasn't meant to be published

[placid grotto]

Right. From the language of the machines to something to be shared with the masses

[vast berry]

so these changes

are poggers

for those who can see past raw dps

[modest walrus]

there's definitely still gonna be changes

[patent canyon]

yeah raider isnt a daresos chest anymore

[tulip warren]

even easier to hit max evade as raider, and those frenzy nodes are solid

[livid apex]

FIRE DOT MULTIPLIER

[patent canyon]

its an actual ascendency now

[livid apex]

DUDE

[lucid stone]

Wait

[vast berry]

it was before to

but ok

[patent canyon]

it wasnt

you could have entire ascendency in single item and flask

[low kindle]

Lpoool

Rip autobomber

[livid apex]

more templar passives btw

[placid grotto]

Autobomber only lost .5% no?

[livid apex]

"reduced mana reservation of skills that throw mines" what the fuck

[radiant lance]

Makes sense

[runic fractal]

Throwing a mine reserves mana

[low kindle]

Wait I'm blind

Unrip bomber

What is perfect agony now?

It wa changed

[placid grotto]

IIRC 6% base crit should still be doable. The big thing that kills Autobomber though is league mechanic

[snow cairn]

not sure that was shown yet

[placid grotto]

Ithates tanky mobs

[snow cairn]

vaal breach?

[livid apex]

oh shit opportunistic is usable in two-boss encounters now

[lucid stone]

Do autobombers use vaal breach

[snow cairn]

if they're trying to boss i think

we also don't know how necessary the towers are

we might not really do any damage to mobs

[livid apex]

mana flask charge generation on tree

this...

this just keeps getting crazier

[low kindle]

What

[radiant lance]

I'm pretty sure if they made it so you had to rely on a towers they're gonna be in for some mega complaints

[worldly scaffold]

WAIT

MANA CHARGE GENERATION?

WHERE

[livid apex]

essence extraction

[low kindle]

Indigon here I go

[snow cairn]

mana flask charges, 1 every 3 seconds or something?

[livid apex]

yep

[radiant lance]

I mean they did say mana flask hype

[grave valve]

oh

i thought you meant like

[radiant lance]

[grave valve]

frenzy/power charge gen from mana flasks

[snow cairn]

lol

[livid apex]

https://i.imgur.com/rnnCeq4.png

[snow cairn]

mana flasks aren't allowed to be useful

[livid apex]

ailment removal when you use the flask, too

[snow cairn]

inb4 it can choose a random ailment you don't have on you

[low kindle]

Wait, where is quick recovery

[livid apex]

it probably didn't move?

it'd be offscreen from that pic

[low kindle]

Ah true

[sour mountain]

i don't know if it actually can, robert

[low kindle]

Tbf, mom builds need some love

[lucid stone]

I'm gonna try to level to 100 this league. owo

[tulip warren]

there is also a tree node to remove curses on mana flask use

[lucid stone]

I need a tanky miner

[tulip warren]

"a curse" to be specific

[sour mountain]

yeah, mana flasks doing a lot seems interesting

[tulip warren]

it's over by ghost reaver tho

[low kindle]

I n d I g o n

[placid grotto]

Wonder if hybrid flasks will work with it

[wet plaza]

nope

[livid apex]

guaranteed not

[lucid stone]

Ryslatha doesn't work with hybrid flasks so this won't either

[livid apex]

#1 wish for pantheon change is ryslatha's upgrade being hybrid flask recharge

[hot quail]

Can anyone tell me what spectres have huge life?

[livid apex]

instead of increased recovery on low life

[lucid stone]

Also, are there any uniques that give hybrid flasks some love?

[snow cairn]

there aren't really any uniques that deal with flasks

[hot quail]

New Necro plus huge life spectres with desecrate says big damage

[low kindle]

Watcher's eye precision mod

[snow cairn]

except that belt

[fierce torrent]

wow those raider changes are so lame

[patent canyon]

hey cmon man

its no longer a chest and flask

[livid apex]

was there just the one raider change or

[patent canyon]

its an ascendency now

[fierce torrent]

is it tho?

[patent canyon]

not slayer caliber one

but usable

[fierce torrent]

avatar of slaughter can easily drop the s

[fallen tulip]

im seeing use for Qotf raider

[patent canyon]

pathfinder still better

deadeye still better

[fierce torrent]

assassin is a better raider than raider

[patent canyon]

trickster still better

raider is... an ok thing

[fierce torrent]

elusive node gives a defacto onslaught

[worn hill]

assassin shown yet?

[patent canyon]

yeah

[fierce torrent]

except its not onslaught

[karmic nimbus]

assassin is actually like a better raider now lmao

[patent canyon]

so you can just stack elusive with onsl

[low kindle]

Raider is okay if you don't take the frenzy charge nodes

[patent canyon]

yeah like raider can be picked now

[fierce torrent]

if you dont take avatar of the chase might as well use a silver flask

[patent canyon]

no idea why you would hurt yourself

but you can play it

[fierce torrent]

if you dont take way of the poacher might as well use blood rage

[livid apex]

scion assassin got nerfed

[fierce torrent]

so...why bother

[low kindle]

Raider has ailment immunity which is pretty big

[wet plaza]

Cremation necro meta

btw

[fierce torrent]

so do my flasks

[patent canyon]

pathfinder also has it

[worn hill]

assassin barely changed

lame

[fierce torrent]

wut

[snow cairn]

new node is nice

[fierce torrent]

ass got some buffs

[worn hill]

:(

[fallen pewter]

That Ascendant Necro node... uh what? Lol

[patent canyon]

ass can compete with pathfinder and trick for poison builds now

[worn hill]

i was hoping that duration thing would go away

[copper kernel]

pour one out for my boy the sab

[fierce torrent]

ass has more movespeed than raider does

nani the fuck

[sour mountain]

tbqh

[wet plaza]

but miner is way better now bo7

:^)

[sour mountain]

i dont understand why you would play raider if you dont take +charges

[copper kernel]

ggg rework
making something better

[fierce torrent]

not that the +charge is that good anyway

[livid apex]

scion necro is sort of kind of usable-ish?

[copper kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-confusion-gif-10824788

[livid apex]

assassin is total garbage though

[sterile shuttle]

bot on the meme game

[fierce torrent]

no its not

[karmic nimbus]

what

[livid apex]

(scion assassin not assassin assassin)

[fierce torrent]

ah

[karmic nimbus]

ohh

[patent canyon]

well scion anything only has 2 stages

broken

or shit

this time its shit

[fierce torrent]

or broken shit

[livid apex]

base crit nerfed from 1% to 0.75%

[fallen pewter]

Scion everything seems to be garbage tbh.

[livid apex]

still has poison btw

[lone chasm]

Im just sad trickster got nerfed again

[low kindle]

you mean the aurabot class

[livid apex]

even though there are no other scion nodes that affect DoT

[patent canyon]

if you think about dot why scion tho

there are 3 asce that are really good

[livid apex]

there's no reason to go scion assassin for the DoT

and yet it keeps the poison

because hell if I fuckin' know

and the reason anyone ever took it, the base crit, got N E R F E D

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[low kindle]

Slayer crit nerf was expected, I wondered if it would be 7.5 or 7

[fallen pewter]

I think the Sabo changes are lame as fuck too.

[fallen tulip]

scion is NEVER going to be an archetype

[copper kernel]

reminder that these are leaks

[livid apex]

I hope to god they change it before it goes live

but I find the odds very low

[patent canyon]

but they give idea about what will change