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You can have a defensive guardian carrying aura items
maybe worth thinking about it again, it was a pretty zoomy build
It's far less likely to die now
so
what do people think the earliest anointed passive notable will be
Tremor Rod is gonna brick smoke mine as a travel skill
i'm leaning towards "Light Radius is based on ES"
One of the mana ones
but i'm wondering if there are any other awful notables
there's probably one that gives pure Accuracy, too, that'd be good
i'm also curious about the +charge notables
might be nice for a raider or something to be able to grab their out-of-the-way main node without having to path there
Now I'm curious about how a baron chieftain would work
Baron doesnt have much minion support
If youre after the strength, you could go scion ascendant
That's the boring way
If theyre phys or fire
I think I know why the returning projectile node is limited to attacks only
Because Spark?
Not really
Return is last
It'd return and then disappear on the next enemy
🤔
flavor, presumably, imo
Also attacks have better projectiles than spells
Returning projectiles pierce everything
But snakepit disables pierce
Well that's boring :/
If return make it a new projectile back at the start of the chain fork order tho
Then it would be silly
I had some fun using chain and projectile weakness blasphemy.
Cause if you stood in the right place, you would get pierces in between chains
And pierce the pack like 3 times
I still wanna do some slayer shenanigans with this
What's Slayer got, max end charges is equal to max frenzy?
Yup
Oh look. It's discharge
Trypanon, frenzy attack, pcoc, end on stun, coc discharge
Timeless jewel might make travel to topside as slayer not terrible
End on stun is hm not a great option
I just wanna do a build for once where you hoard all the charges and actually keep them
Do staff CoC
But every time people just go 'hurr discharge'
Staff has nice charge generation
Is the staff node enough for discharge with cyclone tho?
Nah
There's only one specific way to do discharge and it involves like four uniques
And one of them is an amulet
Rip discharge
Is cwc discharge with ralakesh boots a thing
Is that the gain charge while standing still boots?
It's really slow
People only use it for charge gen before going into uber elder.
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This inspired me to do a poison firestorm miner 
Good god that friggin quack almost killed me 😂
Oh yeah
I remember that video
Poison firestorm.... u_u
I've tried firestorm traps briefly
I'm getting a new comp this weekend. I'll be able to league start with an actually ok laptop.
i have a good question how are the oils droped
We got info that blight will remove all monster including boss or some monster only?
The blighted map say all natural inhabitants removed..
Alright so the blight set boots say your base speed is set to 150%
Does that mean 50% more speed from all sources or are you set to static 150%?
the second one
Are you sure about that?
yes
Because it says base speed not final or anything
any mod that said "your x is y" means you can't modify it from being y
it's essentially seven league step's ms mod
But it specifically says base speed
yes that's correct
Which should imply any further changes go off of that
your base speed, as in your speed before any modifications
???
your movement speed is 150% of base
so you have a permanent 50% increase
but can't modify it further
inventing some numbers, if base ms is 10 then stampede sets it to 15
then if you have futher mods they do nothing because after any other increases the stampede immediately sets it back to 15
So they're only worth it to someone who doesn't get any speed whatsoever
correct
or someone that has a build specifically requiring multiple anointed items
or someone wanting the travel skill cd reduction
weeeeeeeeeell
Oooh
what i said when they were released
not being able to use quicksilvers devalues them a lot
when other modifiers are excluded
is that some builds will want to use them for uber elder
i highly doubt they're better than roots for uber
and that i cant think of another use in this era of quicksilver flask
no life
50 ms is a lot more than 0 ms
what lvl reg they had?
50ms doesn't matter if you're oneshot by everything
also reverse chill with those boots 👀
also unwavering stance is the worst mod ever
and if you're playing low enough life pool that everything oneshots you, you probably don't care about flat 50% ms
and idk what u talking about those boots have 10% max life on them anyway
assuming you don't take constitution
constitution is 14
theres like
50 billion 10% nodes on the treee
literally not possible to make a build that would have all of them allocated
10% life or flat, res, and ability to use other ms increases
animation speed modifiers will affect you with those boots
ms != action speed
yes but then the action speed slow reduces everything
if u can get uber elder slowed then fuck it the boots are useless
why didnt u say so in the first place
i assumed you knew and were just talking about ability to get golem's blood, cruel prep, etc
hence why i was so confused you were saying they'd outdo roots
well no i mean
im not a moron
i can do math required that 200 life is more than golem blood lol
name could be checking out though 
Action speed is the "king" modifier of all speed related modifiers, it is above in hierarcy of everything your character does
I wouldn't be suprised if action speed even worked on idle animation
Anyone know when 3.8 skill tree will be released
Tuesday the 3rd
Isn't it more like thursday?
no, thursday is 20/20 skill gems
well, depends on where you live I guess, but tuesday nz us time
I see
when is league launch anyway, the 6th?
yes
mk
Their main site got a countdown
FeelsBadActually, cuz i can't play saturday 😦
@barren crescent there is a skill I think called glimpse of eternity
is there no other way of getting it other than the armor?
Why you pinging me about that?
so is there a way to get poison chance on wands?
yes, you can just craft it on bench
im thinking about that as a backup if cobra lash turns out to be a bit meh, and putting HoAg in the background of course
That seems to be how they work yeah
they do have a notable
it's basically another line with either an existing notable or one of the new ones
if i'm not mistaking
where are you getting that from?
I haven't seen anything indicating the new uniques can't get the non-tree notables
we haven't even seen the other 11 notables
and the 2 we have can be great for some builds
the most important aspect of those boots is the implicit notable
I had the idea of using the full set for a non necro minion build
Getting the important minion notables sounds pretty good
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wonder how much less damage they'll do to compensate for that speed
i am
very excited
i wonder what i should bind detonate to
i need more buttons on my mouse
I wonder how much power will be at the hands of the player and how much power will be allocated at the towers
seems like a balancing nightmare considering people play with 200k damage to 10mil damage
yeah, that's a shame since I love TDs
get out your goldeneye on n64 and do them escort missions if u want a benchmark of the feel
I haven't played that one
Wait so you can detonate mines mid air now?
Is there any reason to play handcast over mines now?
What else is there?
I mean, the playstyle is completely different, and half the spells don't even work with trap/mine
What do you mean half the spells don't work
look at the list of spells, I'm not gonna list out the dozens of skills that do zdps when used with trap/mine
None come to mind except frost bomb, which doesn't work as a standalone handcast spell either, or the dot spells
And that's nowhere near half the spells
half of the spells that can theoretically work with mine but suck in practice
bv
ab
brand
bl
dark pact
discharge
di
flameblast
flame surge
fp
relax I'm giving a list, nitpick the whole thing if you really want, just not one
frost bolt
ice nova
ice spear might work
magma orb
storm call
Snakepit spear Def works
vortex
Magma orb is good
Firestorm, scale duration and abuse that insane mine speed
sure, point is plenty of spells suck with mine, try them if you want, but as I said, apple orange
Is that really half the list?
I mean, I told you to check the spell list
Haven't actually played spells in ages
and yes that's half of the spell skills that should work with mine but actually suck
The last one I remember was pre nerf indigon
Wait a minute
One of the skitterbots has a chill aura
Frostbreath build with a skitterbot? 
Guys im thinking about VERY LOW budget char than can kill uber elder please give me rough ideas
1 ex max
is my thinking
summoners
any
+seriouslu?
he cant be that op
i tried herald of agony on uber elder but i dont wanna buy lvl 4 empower and enlighten
that was expenisve as hell
those are not required for it

they will update the nodes for his acendcy
update isnt always a buff is what im trying to say
Who cares about the ascendancy
Haven't you seen the ridiculous buffs to the actual minions?
I've been talking of summoner, not necro btw
buildtype vs ascendancy
those are not the same
Minions can easily do any content with zero budget
They're far from the fastest options but hey
prolly miners will be nutty as well
I assume your 1ex budget wasn't: I buy everything and insta go
Then again just the fact that you can make minions aggressive will massively speed things up
also
base speed buffs 
Plus death mark for any bosses with adds
I was gonna do a poison starter but looks like minions are the way to go after all
Defensive animated guardian with kingmaker is gonna be sweet
but minions get scaled so much from necro passives
my strongest summoner that I've played was Occu
more or less
While occultist can make enemies have around -200% cold resist
so i got what u mean that the skill gems for minions are buffed
zombie for example yeah? i saw update about them few days ago
What?
thats what im talking about when i asked which mioons
minions*
it wasnt big
was meh minor buff
More than double base number of zombies, 38% more life and over 70% CDR on the slam not that much?
Zombies were already usable in just about every summoner build as a filler
wait what
It went from 3 to 7
ur telling me they can do more than 30 now?
oh snap
casual 10 monte zombies
i see
i loved necro in last league and i think ill do it again
some ppl find it boring but i find it nice
People are talking about meat shield zombies, but I'd rather go world war z on their asses
u mean the new passive ? the defensive one?
feeding frenzy baron, non monte
support*
Yeah
Feeding frenzy spiders tho 👀
es occu is very much dead
You don't build anything as a traditional summoner anyway
my 1st kill tho
was nice
but im afraid of chaos damage
now that i dont have CI
If you die that means you don't have enough meat shields 
also related: https://i.imgur.com/Hm7bizw.jpg
Damn I really want to do a baron build
which skill is baron
its a helmet
Unique helmet
"the baron"
its old unique
scion is pretty nice
oh wait
10% more str
don't the non scion's also get like 1200 str?
Dunno
But I also want to do a worm commander at some point
oh no
That should probably be the cheapest minion build this league
Chains of Command chest?
Yup
ah
Just convert all int to strenght, and you can go witch.
You use pathfinder and worm flasks to sustain the weapon army on bosses
I was talking about the Baron zombie 1k strenght, if that was referring to me 🙂
You make a new
Then you're fucked
there are ways to make him tanky as hell tho
+3 to minion on hem
helm
and minion health
support
ye
ill use AG for sure next league
fun skill
who knows they might give him rings and amulets xD
It'll be great in a generic minion build thanks to meat shield
may I intrigue your AG meme needs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3CqgLS6ssE
Just throw it on him so he doesn't run off and get himself killed
yep
I saw a video of someone putting a starforge on it
yikes
well i try to make budget builds
coz my friend is challenging me to make the best budget build
hes using that sword tho
on his glad
and 5 link chest
Oni is like few ex at start
and he can do any content
Pretty sure he can't do reflect
How much did the akuna gloves cost?
he cant
Never actually checked them
thats why i loved herald of agnoy
man i love that minion
he can do anything
but too costly
Pretty much every build has a mod that it can't do while functioning fully
herald doesnt
literally slap hoag into 4L and it kills everything
herald of agony can do anything
the only boss it struggles with is chim
coz i cant take that much damage
and i die
with big damage mods on map
That's why you go jugg
That sounds unusual for pure hoag builds
And laugh at everything
HoAG LL Guard 
How?
herald melts most things
as occ
hatred aura and EE
3 curses
my es was low
14k
wait
less
12i think
Damn the Triad gloves will be worth a fortune
Anyone noticed how many minion gloves there are?
havent seen it
Seen what?
How the hell is a HoAg build too costly? I mean, sure, if you're HC it might be.
But that build is easy to make work
nah but it must one shot shaper on day 2 /s
I mean, i guess 🙄
I can't stand the idea of doing a minion build without some unique gimmicks
Need ideas for fun stuff that won't cost an arm and a leg
The convert gloves, is that considered a gimmick?
They'll cost several exalts guaranteed
You think? I don't think they're that rare.
Why are they ridiculous? They do pretty much only 1 thing. Convert the damage.
If full cold minions with hatred and equilibrium doesn't sound op to you I don't know what does
So, there's 1 aspect to them, you think is ridiculous.
They have no life, they have NOTHING, except forcing you to have 4 green sockets on gloves. I don't see how that's "Ridiculous" tbh
Who cares about survivability on a summoner
Apparently not you
What are you, tanking for your skeletons?
Because you can't get hit, unless there's nothing around you to protect you.
Legion didn't teach us that, no.
Especially this league where you'll have taunting bodyguards following you closely
You dodge the telegraphed attacks, let the zombies or whatever peel melee threats, and the aggressive minions offscreen everything else
Then you make that 3.5k life summoner, that's totally fine.
But don't call an item ridiculous just because YOU don't care about anything els.
And still, you're still forced to have an item with 4 green sockets. That's a lot of sockets for a summoner.
Again, you do that then.
Even did a spectre build with those wands that reserve health
How far into the endgame you went with it?
I just need someone to persuade me not to go totems for blight. conceptually totems sound super ok for tower defence
Anything wrong in going totem? Seems like Divine Ire is rather insane for totems.
oh there's nothing wrong with it and id play divine ire too but I played it in synth and I like trying new things but hnnnnngg its gonna be opeope
I'm kinda wondering how well Purifying Flame totems would do.
I dont think blight has no bosses
or just blight maps
Yeah could be that too
It just seems thematic to have like a dungeon master who sends all these mobs
Could be just a harder TD like 5-way was lots of waves for as long as you can keep up
An infinite til you fail td would be fucking awesome tbh
Idk how realistic that is to hope for tho
Imagine the exp exploit on that.
A summoner just standing on top of it, you going afk for an hour or two, coming back and still not done
Well id imagine that you wouldn't be able to afk since we know that towers will be used to "make monsters vulnerable to damage" so i'm hoping for some type of type system. Plus in an infinite scenario at some point things would be too difficult/too many mobs to handle
My understanding of the tower mechanic is, that some minions are immune to the towers themself, but not anything you as a character do?
From my understanding we will need to use the towers to cc/ make the mobs vulnerable so we are able to kill them effectively
Where did you get that impression from?
trailer said it
From tarke/grim as it would avoid the power struggle of player vs tower. Since if towers are strong players feel useless and if players are strong then why even use the towers?
use specific towers to epxploit certain weaknesses
So i'll assume there to be synergy between the towers and players so what better way to synergize other than make you do more dmg anddddd make the mobs slow down
I see. So if a cold build were to make towers, they'd use what type?
Like, they'd focus on fire/lightning, or?
I think its mob specific possibly? This is something we have yet to really see
What do you mean mob specific? I mean, you said "we will need to use the towers to cc/ make the mobs vulnerable", which i then understand.
But how do you remove vulnerbility to cold?
Or a specific element in general i should probably say
You wouldn't you'd build cold towers
I think there was a pic where there were only limits to hitting flying monsters
So, to remove the vulnerability, from lets say cold, you need to focus cold towers.
And to remove fire, you'd use fire towers?
Yeah iirc someone mouses over a mob at some point and it states a weakness
Could just be eeq
Yeah that's what i'm curious about quorry
eeq?
Ee*
Elemental EQuilibrium
I'm not sure i understand.
Keystone
Yes i know what EE is, but what do you mean when you say "Could just be EE"?
Imo itd be kinda brainless if it is that way
I'll add a q if I want
Because you'd just always build whatever is not your element
Can you explain what you mean? 😦 I am very confused.
So like the minion has "EE" by stand, so anything that hits it, applies 50% res for it?
Anyway when you apply the weakness with eeq that mod is given to the monster
Yeah so let's say you're a fireball build
You'd always build cold/light towers
Which in turn would boost your fire damage
I see.
There are lightning towers that just shock enemies
But like i said seems kinda brainless imo so i'm hoping it's tied to individual mobs
I'm not so sure that the towers are applying the mod and not the player
Would also be weird, cuz then phys and chaos would have an edge
Chaos always has an edge except for bosses
for bosses as well
And even against bosses with wither
Well, yes, but would be weird to put in monsters with EE for the blight alone, as then chaos and phys would just be superior to anything els.
Yeah
Well phys can be dealt with p easily
Plus ee would actually be good for elemental damage then
It'd be nice if it was like a shield around the monster :D
Like "Immune to phys", and then you gotta break the shield using other type of dmg.
That's kinda what i'm imagining tbh^
Probably not straight up immunity but resistant
Well, should be some serious high resistance then, cuz builds these days just plow right through it anyways.
Mobs have shield bubbles already
Yeah, but that's not an immunity.
u will reach monster lvl 83 faster
Easier to get sulphite, easier to reach lvl 83, so means more maps ^_^
I remember reading about a post or something saying they'll nerf dex-stacking strat or at least make it easier for other builds to do deep delves?
also sulphite is shared
does that have any basis
Legion gets a room in temple, and a chance to spawn like any other league.
Haven't heard of that Lui
Well, maybe they removed a not very good room? 😄 Could at least pray
alva temple yea?
Yep
It's part of the Blight video, you can clearly see it's in the temple ^_^
which timestamp?
Maybe lvl 1, no boss, lvl 2, 1 boss, lvl 3, 2 bosses? 😮
i missed it
ima try find it
Hmm, maybe it was in ziggys video
they need to buff breach stuff
and legion too if it goes core
else farming splinters will be a nightmare
@analog island Saw it? ^_^
No worries. PoE is my life! At least for 1½ month after a new league gets out 😄
I'm making 8-9 liters of healthy delicious soup ^_^
vegs?
Yep, a chicken stock, i think.
Potatoes, carrots, leeks, bacon, and meat balls ^_^
Already am xD
well enjoy im sure its lovely
It is, but in a week 😄
[FOUND] Was there an info release schedule? I swear I saw one but now I can't find it.
Where is this from
@lucid stone
thats where its from
ALSO @native osprey what mana and life flask stuff
elaborate
read thread yourself
Looks like the hidden ones show up on the tree
I'm not perpetuating leaks
okay.
we're still deciding what to do about this, this is catastrophically bad
all hype ruined for the next week 
just ninja it
censoring wont really help

best you can get
Most of us already have it saved
Tbh
yeah 😦 this sucks
THEY KILLED UTMOST INTELLECT
Not surprising @lucid stone
@worldly scaffold show necro link
wonder what level 1 bone armour is
im gonna make a folder with links and send it to you
Ascendancies granting skills now?
oof
if anyone wants just HMU
I refuse to read through these
@worldly scaffold mind throwing it my way too?
of course
<3
utmost intellect hasnt been removed just moved
album || https://imgur.com/a/59kJbz7 ||
Oh, sabo changes arent too bad
oh mistress buff
faust doing gods work
Thats the worst one
sabo ruined
And AoE nerf on mines
knew it
volatile dead + that ? hmmmm
aoe nerf on mines?
They now grant 6% per instead of 8% per
sabo got nerfed because mines got superbuffed
But
You have more mines
NSFW
just post porn here lul
album plz
oh man I pity ggg
4 more pics ^
rip
imagine waking up to this 
@native sonnet https://imgur.com/a/59kJbz7
done
her bribe you mean
remember
bex bout to take a break again
reddit blackout activated in
lol
LMAO
🎆
Devouring Diadem and that Corpse Pact
I am actually curious as to how this tree data got out
WHAT
Nono
oooh
wait what?
damn nice
where is
lmao tenacity
This was a custom json uploaded to pob
barrage miner
they didnt even talk about pathfinder
sounds like unbalanced stuff
what are you waiting for
WHY DID THEY NERF OVERWHELM
What if this is one big troll by 4chan
SLAYER NOOOOOO
Why am i doing the album
mind you im not making these, just copying
when master has the sauce
pls no bulli
I might do a non-sabo miner
It'd be by the russian 2chan
tenacity gonna be stronk
the POB update? nothing has come out for pob in releases since Jun 5
yeah it's not pob
@sterile brook at least thats what I heard
the leaker is just importing it into pob
^
^
which is fairly easy
yeah
Custom json
honestly I suspect an alpha leaker, which is serious business
yeah
Yeah multi
dude probably gonna have a LOT of problems
This is gonna be bad tbh
when they find it out
That's lawsuit level
lawsuit
yeah
you dont even know if theres a contract
breaking an NDA is not smart
100% lawsuit
in case anyone wants to get them pics themselves
100%
and then well
all ndas are contracts, the alpha testers 100% sign
im just posting anything new i find
he's probably gonna pay a lot of muney
faust can you give someone access to moderate the album?
I'd like to help you
i cant say im a fan of the new corpse focus for necro
albums are better
no clue how that works on imgur tbh
from:me has:image in:blight-leaks etc
just save the images from the album
I think whoever is the cause of this, will just be removed, no lawsuit. We're almost there, it's a shame for GGG, sure. But..
lmao
Some of these awesome nodes aren't even the unlockable ones
he is getting a lawsuit imo
What's GGG got in store for 4.0? owo
BIGGER LEAK
New assassin 2 pointer?
are you guys ready for a big one?
Wonder what it is
IM READY
ye
MY BODY IS READY
50% more crit damage
well, we're definitely getting a closed beta for 4.0
WHAAAAT
jesus fuck
THET FUCK
so no problem
What
THE FICO
LEVEL 38 HOAG
Fuck
Strong node but kinda boring
LEVEL 38 HOAG
thats fucking bonkers
LEVEL 38 HOAG
@fierce torrent You have json?
LEVEL 38 HOAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
@solemn tiger im reposting from 2chan
@solemn tiger nah he;'s posting form the russian thread
@worldly scaffold
cant make an imgur account for now
HOAG no measured in shapers per second

rip
Dang, just outside of jewel range
...THAT'S why theyre on the tree
I looked in that thread and I regret knowing russian.
mega slow without it
nsfw now huh
owo
tranquility + WI
guy who teased that is ognna get suicided
Blight leaks sounds like an infected discharge.
:rip:
hey maybe chris sees the leak and says fuck it you nuts ain't getting any and not update the tree at all for 3.8 
did you guys see this one?
yeah
ye
ggez
Starting to sound bogus tho
there is prolly one rarest oil you need
i think thats all the images they had
to make these
Has GGG gone mad?
ima keep an eye on the thread tho
still haven't seen any notable that I would take over +1 curse
Or is this a coordinated effort to hoodwink us
yea a lot of those really good nodes probably use 1 super rare oil
theres probably a rare black oil or smth which is required for the 15 nodes
Yeah but some of the good nodes are pathable
It's not fake. All the usual capitalizations and wording are on point.
So not pure unlock
because oils
you have a low bar gwar lol
lol
if it's fake it's INSANELY high quality
In fairness we would have not believed the timeless jewels, some of them, either
- Art is GGG styled
- all the wording is perfect, so the person would have to have high knowledge of the game
what are the assassin changes
plus its being leaked from a russian chan
O god
russians dont have a very good english reputation
hey maybe it's all fakes and we're all just fools
or do I have to make it
That seems unlikely, tovarisch
is ggg colluding with russia 😱
I do actually hope it's fake
@wet plaza
NO COLLUSION
like please I go to sleep and wake up and someone tell me it's fake
yeah the sabo regen nerf is
I can make it if you dont wanna do it
mega
wait that raider leak; is exposure -15% res now?
Scion is a better miner than sabo now? owo
from different sources
ahh ok ty
you have -10% exposure from timeless jewels
@lucid stone sabo has 100% inc aura effect
of mines
thats massive
oh
if sabo regen got nerf then scion will too?
is there an album?
sabo aura bot 
Are there any scion changes?
soul weaver is gone
ty uly ❤
its time for the mine traps
Does scion sabo still have 20% regen? 0wo
so you can get both 10% regen caps
scion should always get changes with other base ascendancies
btw level 38 hoag
Well she doesn't always
Corpse Pact + zombie corpse gloves?
See: hiero and occultist
50% inc. max life?
Link?
i'm expecting they remove the physical tag on hoag
They nerfed sab's regen :<
I used WW anyway. owo
@lucid stone http://is2.4chan.org/vg/1567090115739.png
Explosives Expert looks tasty with dark pact zerphi's
But soul eater is useless on mines
Unless there's a notable that changes cast speed to throw speed.
why even dark pact just get a single abyss jewel with the two elements your mine doesnt do
er
It's an alpha player
I hope his computer burn down or something
like not taken directly from a video I mean
'20% place an additional mine' and 'you can place two additional mines' are gone now
is there a collection of all the leaks
in-game screenshots?
thaaaat's an alpha leaker
they're spread out all over the place
or lightning strike his internet
yeah
Max mines with all supports and passives is 23 now, right?
He just has a picture of him opening a vaal chest
ty alpha leaker
Can I find this JSON file anywhere?
passive and support
yeah at this point dl the post @worldly scaffold cant share as is
im gonna make the album chill
It's the russian 2chan
yeah multi is right this ain't a json file
Who is this 4 chan
this is an alpha tester for sure
Is pob updated or something
no
the guy took the json file during his alpha test and imported it into pob
will 40% critmulti to burning enemies make me use controlled destruction over ele focus? 🤔
leak assassin C: