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they could; we don't know how seeds interact with effects
if it's been mapped, I haven't seen anything about it
doh private league characters/tabs gone after the private league ended
it would be cool if the jewel showed what benefit you're getting while the nodes are allocated in the description
@north dragon they should show up in the parent league -- legion or standard, depending
Found the char but it's still in the private league that's over and cant migrate
huh. how long ago did the private league end?
someone said i was ready for atziri, and they were not correct >:l
3 days ago
Hi!
I'd like advice from a glacier farmer.
I've been farming shaped glaciers for a while, but I stopped because full clearing the map to sustain is just annoying. I reshaped my atlas to farm t2 glaciers (blocking t2, t3 but not t4s).
I just finished running the 15 maps I had to start the flow, but to my surprise I'm not sustaining. I'm not even close, I dropped 3 maps. Also, oddly enough, all t1s I've dropped (6 maps total) are sulfur vents.
If people actually oversustain from just hitting the monolith and exiting, the odds of me getting 3 maps or less are astronomically low.
Am I missing somethiong there or is t2 sustaining just a big hoax carried around by people watching streams and not actually farming glaciers?
Welp, update time. 15 maps later full clearing, I have 39 maps. I guess that was just insanely bad luck
Anyone know if theres any streamers that do the Legion Jewel auction? I know Ziz just did he last one probably so theres no really good way to show it off.
@rare crystal 15 maps is a tiny pull, once u hav ea decent amount, u can start not full clearing and go at it
im sustainting t7 glacier, without full clear so its even easier in t2
You can sustain T7 glacier? That's good to know.
I wasn't able to sustain shaped without clearing the grotto in most of them
When you sustain T7 glaciers, are you alch-n-go only?
I guess I was just insanely unlucky with my t2 pull, it's fixed now and I'm slightly oversustaining
yes
Nice
Yeah
I've had a pesky time with my shaper quests, so I don't have elder orb yet. I have 18% 2 tiers higher bonus right now, with all 2's and 3's pulled off my atlas. But I might be able to shape Glacier, which has no adjacent, and sustain without elder orb....
@rare crystal yah the glacier maps drops in a bunch once in awhile which helps to sustain. 80% of the time you'll get 1 map back from clearing just the monolith area. and 1/5 times you got 2 or more map drops. sometimes i get up to 4 maps return from 1 run.
how do people selling atziri throne in temple proceed further? I imagine buyers would have to wait in my hideout and enter temple portal on my call as I drop atziri to low hp? or are there other ways?
Will emblems be obtainable in standard once league ends, if so, how?
no official statement
why aren't people using aukuna's will? is it just not worth it to blow up your own zombies?
GGG only tell us that pretty close to league end @cursive gust
Ah ok
Will emblems be usable in standard once league ends?
Or do they not tell you that either
probably, but again have to see
all this stuff gets explained in a big news post around the same time as the next league is announced
@rare crystal how many maps do you need to uncomplete to get it to sustain
just 7 and 8?
sorry what?
For shaped glaciers, yeah, I just uncompleted the 2 tiers
Classic shaping strategy, nothing special.
wasnt sure if it was only the two maps it could upgrade to
is biscos collar worth it for glacier farming?
ehhhhh
You're better off grabbing an amulet with 9-10 quant for an ex
What happens if an emblem carry fails? Instance crash
does that ever happen ? .. e..g if you crash and you get back in the portals should still be there and you should be able to get at least the stuff you collected so far if the time run out meanwhile
( should take longer than 8-15 min to reconnect tho . shold be normal rules for the instance)
INSTANCE crash
they aint getting back in
its not something that the carry controls
so
shit happens
yes but how often does that happen ?
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Im running my first HC toon on legion. Haven't done any of the emblems yet. Approx what tier map difficulty are they? I think i saw they were level 75? So that makes them what t7-t8? Would you guys say they are harder than t7/8? Just dont wanna overstep and RIP my HC toon
the level of the encounter depends on how many emblems you toss in
ahh ok. Can you do just one? or need at least 2?
2 minimum i would think, not much of a conflict with only 1 side
fair. with just two emblems any idea of the map difficulty?
my HC toon can handle t8 right now but slightly worried at that tier for survivabily (still need some better items)
i think 3 way is lvl75 so somewhere under that, anyway
hrmmm mmmk. i might wait just a bit until next item upgrade to give it a shot tbh
better to not risk it
thanks @marsh minnow
Im having a hard time right now if someone could help me figure this out :
Im trying to have those 2 points where you can gain power charge and frenzy charge easily ->
Im using an elegant hubris right at that spot, but it gives me different kind of power, I dont really understand why ?
because each of the same jewel has different number
the number determines what the modified nodes will do
so if you want that exact result, you need to get a jewel with the exact same number
ie 153540
oh god
lol
well, this is 9ex instead of 5c 😄
You can likely buy a few of the 5c ones and find something that'll work
Or divine your own
It's a very interesting mechanic and doesn't lend particularly well or cheaply to some of the new builds that it enables
is there any logic in that system ? or do I just try randomly ?
There's logic to it for sure, but we don't know it
the jewel can transform keystones, the name determines what the resulting keystones are
ohhhh okay I see, thats why last time I had no problem
Question regarding shock: If I have "Adds # Lightning Damage to attacks" on a ring in my cyclone build (30% crit chance/8 attacks per second) will I have 100% uptime of the shock ailment on bosses?
very likely yes but your shock value will probably be very low
if you dont have enough added damage you may not have enough to pass the threshold on a boss enemy
isnt it like a 20% incoming damage debuff at minimum?
ok I see now...a single 40k lightning hit on Shaper to apply the ailment
technically it won't shock if it doesn't do enough damage right?
seems that way...and its a LOT of damage for any boss where its meaningful
I guess they have to have something 😉
A 40k lightning hit on shaper gives u a 1% shock
Thats not exactly worth bothering with
ok i looking atbuying a lethal pride jewel but how do i know in advance what it will affect? is there a way?
nope 
endurance gain if hit recently isnt worth anything is it
Anyone here seen any lethal prides with over 41% flask effect?
Ive never seen any with over 41% so far
nope, "when hit" triggers are very unreliable
@slender temple only the unique Keystones, based on the name of the person mentioned in the jewel
taking the same corrupted keystone twice won't stack, right?
2x divine flesh for 90% chaos res and 100% ele to chaos conversion? nah, sounds perfectly balanced to me
40% less damage taken when not hit, 100% more evasion when hit
but yeah they dont stack
you can always wear something like an incandescent heart to get more "take ele as chaos"
That's only for hits
legion mechanics .. the league where the instance crashes in the most important conflict
wasting more than 1 exalted
just like that
yay
unlike synthesis, where your most important conflict would just be completely barricaded, or betrayal, where running the most important conflict was actively bad for you unless you were challenge hunting? or delve/bestiary where the most important conflict just straight up didn't spawn for 95% of the playerbase... GGG isn't good at this stuff 😉
@pseudo snow i wonder how many people ACTUALLY got to see an aul fight by themselves, ever. probably less than 0,1% of all active players tbh
Yeah bestiary has super beasts
You ever heard of farruls
Those items come from a boss fight basically
Lol I remember getting one portal mob in bestiary
I wonder if they exist still
I saw auld but he had 200% elemental dmg and other shit at depth 600 and hit way too hard
is there a place for buying/selling timeless jewels? like a discord channel or ingame chat
thanks
lmao at chronoswap, the sub's creator has his own jewel pinned
Oh god, that's classy
Well that could be any of you
How's SRS versus monolith encounters? A quick test at low level seemed to indicate the skulls scattered to the four winds, prioritizing whichever target is furthest from them and wasting tremendous time traveling. Is this correct?
Does anything do lightning damage over time to the player?
shimmeron
Shock and horrors lightning beam. Shapers beam is also partially lighting afaik
The Eradicator's Lightning Orb form, probably his volley too
what keystone passive from the timeless jewels do you guys like the most
I like the life recovered from Mana one
Idk why people look at it and think it should be combined with MoM though unless you already have more than 20% Mana regen
I was thinking about going for dance with death
take it twice and wear 3 kintsugis
keystones don't stack though if someone reads that and has the idea
do you think it would work well with divine ire
do legion jewel keystones stack
Agnostic is good to be combined with mom because just agnostic doesn't protect you from big hits
However, you can also build agnostic with reserving almost all your mana, because only mana regen matters. But why would you?
@leaden wraith you can only equip one timeless jewel at a time anyway
Yeah just casually convert 100% of elemental damage taken to chaos and have 90% max chaos res

This one is probably the most broken
keystones dont stack
I know
I wasn't exactly saying you shouldn't take MoM with it, more that I was seeing people talking about combining them without considering how to upkeep Mana
does using the crafting bench to color by changing sockets still work?
*number of sockets
ok it does. I was just having a really long streak of bad luck
Anyone else feel like the number of rares in Legion encounters feels constant across maps or is it just me
(not the total number of monsters; that definitely changes)
any1 got a picture of what a legion with general monolith looks like?
or at least explain what it looks like
there will be purple energy/gas pointing off in the direction of the general
they also added an audio cue recently, but i'm not sure what it sounds like yet
thx
Oh those purple things that point to the monolith will point to the general once I click on it?
@short basin https://i.redd.it/cqtvl1yyqs331.png
The Monolith has a delay in my experience. It's a light purple whispy thing
I've yet to notice the audio after 5+ generals
It's a delay of about 1~ second
Though I find the indicator quite noticeabl
And it's how I've gotten pretty much all of my generals on my somewhat slow Vortex build
I've always been too frantic to pay attention so far, but I noticed that there seems to be these Frozen in time mortar fires towards generals?
Provably but I compensate for not paying attention with EDC 😁
hopefully ill notice it
i was playing magma orb for a while so it was never obvious
360 degree clear the trash but never saw any generals because of it
I beeline to the general's area, as soon as the rares die, beeline to the other side. Mostly ignore white monsters
If they die, cool. If not, no big deal
I don't have time to kill everything cause I'm melee :/
They drop trash 99% of the time anyways
With AoE bigger than most spells?
Or is it the teleport behind you Weaboo Fightan Magic
I'm playing melee ele hit, which has splash built in, with ancestral call
Oh so as close as you can get to a spell but still use accuracy 
I ignore accuracy with effigon and flesh and stone
Basically a spell build except I get to be zerker
Which is nice and all if I'm ramped up
Not so nice if I'm at zero rage
I can't stand legion bosses that spam lightning clone spells
what can you even do against it
2 of them going off near you is enough to kill most people
don't stop moving
they only explode if they stand on top of you
it's annoying though definitely
regardless. even for a game that loves its "move or die" effects, lightning clones feel overtuned
they are retardedly overtuned
like f me I get standing in a fireblast but screw whoever came up with these things
for some legion bosses that's the only thing they do
spam-cast lightning clones on you
It's like if shock and horror could summon nukes right on top of you
instead of a murder-beam
ohh and I love how we have atleast 9 seconds to try and find something to break out 'try' and read its ungodly mods and -then- try to break it out
dissapointing league IMO
love the melee updates though
like, on an even more basic level -- they don't look like they should do anywhere near as much damage as they do
I know!
That's the sickest part about this garbage mechanic
those chasing fireballs have a sound queue thing while these things are way more dangerous and really blend into other effects
also that username is hilarious
what kind of damage do the legion mobs that hit their shield and create shockwaves do
my character cant evade it and it does huge damage
big damage
i mean is it a phys spell or what
hmm
or phys attack that cannot be evaded
maybe its in the datamine
i dont know what that is
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i didnt see it in there
there are monster stats in there, but I'm not 100% sure how to find them
i know that if you know the monster name you can type it in the search bar, like "raised zombie" or "hairy bonecruncher" or "slave driver"
but shouldn't there be a list of like, new legion monsters? that's what stumps me
So I have the templar jewel (the green one) shouldn't acrobatics count for the notable?
acrobatic is a keystone
I just said it's a keystone, so it doesn't count
ohh
but thats also allocated
but as I said, not all notables are transformed by templar jewels
yes, it will have a new icon
ty
How much area of effect do i need on vaal ice nova to clear full monolith?
I found 50-55 radius was ok, for consistent full clear u would want 55+
Which is like 230% inc aoe total
Does anyone even use those Templar notables
Kinda defeats the purpose of tree traversing, which is hunting notables
it depends on if you get a lot of them with really good affects all nearby among other minors that benefit you
or just in general if you're picking up a lot of close clusters
on the other hand if you get one of the major stat notables with it it's sorta garbo
I have one that changes a dex notable into +1 all max res, but to get enough devotion to actually earn that is absolutely not worth the point investment 🤷
i think someone is trying to price fix brutal restraint jewels
remember when they were 40ex 
Hey guys, how do we go about pricing timeless jewels? Make a level 90'ish Scion and check out every single slot?
or make a bunch of pvp only level 28 scions
How do Timeless Jewels work in terms of copying someones build? Do you need to get the exact number on the jewel or is there a range before it changes to something else?
They don't, basically
I mean, if you can find an identical jewel you're gucci, but good luck with that
Is there a way I can put into pob for the blind with 25% more crit chance?
on a jewel + configs
So how do i know if any of the jewels are beneficial for MF TS Deadeye...?
pvp only scion
aka the first and last time you will ever create a pvp only char
bsadly
not if league mechanic goes core
then you will have pvp character every league
wait
is this how ggg will promote pvp now? 👀
Imagine ggg pulling a big
and making exilecon finals a pvp tourney
Hah
I deleted my PvP char after plopping the gems in the removing and banking
Pvp and hardcore are two things that I don't like in arpg.
does any1 know/any source have all the timeless jewels bonuses (possibilities)
i kinda wanna see a pin/post regarding each class/skill/char and good possibilities timeless jewels bonus that mix together
we have lists of the potential mods on the wiki
Speaking of timeless jewels, does anyone know where one can find a place to buy or sell them?
Traditional sites definitely can't gauge how good a timeless jewel is and there's no way to search for specific ones
ooooooooh
@silver kettle ily. Chronoswap looks juicy
Oh and the PoE trade discord channel has a Timeless Jewel specific section too. Holy moly 😮
What's an effective Glacier Legion build? Looking for something that does it better/faster than EDC. Tried Vaal Ice Nova and it feels significantly more clunky than EDC. Gonna give it 1 last shot before I Respec back to EDC
vaal ice nova is super nice if you get it ironed out
Is it? I've noticed it seems to miss rares
No problem with normal monsters except when they are spread out (e.g. Eternal Empire rows)
Need more radius maybe
If u dont have 50+ radius it cant hop between empire or templar rows all the time
yeah I've got 170% increased. Feels like the build gives up quite a bit in exchange for not a lot of clear improvement. With EDC, I was sure everything was getting unlocked because it's much less intensive
not to mention much more survivable
I mean ur in glacier
Dying isnt rly something that happens regardless of build
If u get VIN set up correctly its move click move click collect loot
depends. It's a T2 but Legion does hit above its weight. After swapping back, I'm positive I wasn't getting all the chests
gonna do a quick test tonight 100x glacier with 55% quant + biscos vs 100x glacier with 55% quant + 10% quant ammy
using ed/c build so quant is lower then deadeye but i dont feel like leveling a new character xD
What are you testing exactly?
^
for legion farming? then why people keep arguing if quant vs biscos is better on every thread?
😃
because they dont care to either do testing themselves or look up what other found
10% quant is better than biscos
hello
biscos hasn't been better than 10% quant since the last nerf my dude
For farming Legion? I'm surprised
Depends. It seems only symbols and shards are not affected by IIQ
I'd expect normal monsters to be
thats all well and good but
you still want movespeed over quant
legion drops are so good on their own as is, you basically just want to get as many monoliths per hour as possible
Depends what the scaling is
There are diminishing returns for movement
Quant vs more maps
Which scales more over the range
We know what the scaling on quant is, we've known that for years
Imo the only reason to use either bisco or a quant amulet in glaciers is cos its free
The opportunity cost is mega low compared to a dps amulet or a karui charge or whatever else u would put in there
The legion mobs don’t give you anything special. It’s all about the symbols, chests and generals. 10% or 50% increased quantity of nothing special is just that.
you don't even really need movement speed imo if you doing cyclone. just switch chest to carcass jack and increased area affect if you have a blue socket and that + leap slam + quicksilver + whatever move boots can get all the things
You definitely want move speed for cyclone
quant is good for currency no?
True but 30% boots + prob devotos devotion + flask should be enough
So are there any resources to show which timeless jewels give the most benefit to certain builds
Rather what they do in the areas where they are most commonly used
You need the latter to estimate the former
just check the timeless jewel page on the wiki
it has a list of all the small nodes, notables and keystones
Is there a way to tell if a general spawned when I open a monolith?
The monolith has a purple vapour effect that kinda makes an arrow pointing to the general
Oh neat
But it's not very obvious when you first click it, takes a few seconds to become really clear
They added an audible cue too. There’s an additional sound effect which in practice just sounds like a busier (more layered) sound. It’s still not that clear.
I read this in global 4040 before but I want to confirm this, is it true that higher tier maps spawn more maraketh over templar?
Might be RNG and it could very well be true but i run t16s almost exclusively and im still a few templars ahead of maraketh
my anecdote after farming burials since a few days ago and I went from 100 splinters difference to ~200 splinters difference
oh well if there is truth to it it's worth exploring, i'll keep it in mind
yo guys how come headhunters dropped from 130 to 110ex the other day and now they're back to 135?
same with inspired learnings. 25ex to 16ex and now they're back to 25 lol
bc if ppl retired all their gear, it'd make sense to drop, but it wouldn't make sense for them to rise back up in price
DAMN those dash enchants
why wouldnt it make sense to rise again? its a high demand item. once the cheap ones are sold, all that is left is the more expensive ones
I don't have data for high tier maps, but for low tier, Warchests give 3-6 shards consistently
on the high tier maps, I didn't notice much of an imporvement (if any)
@marsh wyvern figured ppl were retiring gear and so the worth of HH's and IL's would consistently diminish in price. And furthermore, the closer Legion gets to merging with Standard, the more Legion prices will meet up with Standard prices
ah. keep in mind the changes to rarity as well, while yeah i would love to get a HH at 50ex, that just isnt gonna happen anymore i dont think.
while it does act like a normal economy, the scale is too small making it unpredictable
hello what color is maraketh legion looks like? im trying to complete challenge but i dont know which one they was seem like pretty rare
they are the rare ones, i think they are blue. they ride the dinosaurs
i think
ok i just looked it up. they are indeed the dino riders. the general is the only one that is phased as well.
have to kill the dino then her
@marsh wyvern thank you
@marsh wyvern ah true, HH's in general will be more expensive than the 50ex that they used to be due to the rarity nerfs
I just witnessed both HH and IL's continuously drop in price for like 3 days straight. So it was strange when it spiked back up to its original price a day after
well, at least it had the decency to drop identified so I didn't get my hopes up too much
Hey, it's not wurm's molt
@marsh wyvern Someone dumped a lot on the market (~50 I think?)
yeah
Empyrian sold 73 HHs for ~99ex or a bunch of stacked decks
After vaaling 80 of course
looking for advice about maxing xp gain from 5-way. Should I run myself, or find someone with headhunter offering free service? I can melt bosses pretty quickly, but only cleared 4 waves on the 4-way I ran (may have been partially due to being unfamiliar with mechanics though)
I mean the answer is pretty obvious
im not familiar with xp in parties though, thought if you dont kill the monsters (but are nearby) you get some xp, but not that much versus doing it yourself
thats why i was asking, if i can only clear a few waves myself, would that be better xp than someone carrying me the whole way
if it was obvious to me, i wouldnt ask
pretty positive killing vs nonkilling has no effect its just lvl difference
ah yeah that does explain it exactly, thank you

So we agree that actualy in POE there is no the legion timeless jewel right ?
I hope they will add them in the game after this league they can do some pretty cool things
what
I found a timeless jewel ... If I make a pvp scion, how do I know what jewel socket to put it in to see the effects?
If you mean see what it does before you put it in, you can't, you have to put in the jewel to see how it changes your tree
Also, is there any good loot filters for 5 ways so I don't waste too much time
How does one go about pricing timeless jewels? I have a few half decent ones such as 10% double damage and +20% fortify effect but since they're so random there is nothing else to gauge the price on
Explain?
explain what
that's called loot
you can pick it up and put it in your inventory
or don't, whatever
xD
how rare is scarab monster/chest spawned? i just found out that i lack that challenge
pretty common
i just got a unique stash tab.... holy shit i love it
Sorted all your uniques in standard yet?
anybody knows a good and trustable 5way carry?
All my uniques in standard 😓 maybe later
@dusky cobalt check forums?? Plenty of posts there with ppl to vouch for them
can you take a legion keystone twice? For instance, if I place a Glorious Vanity in a spot where it turns two keystones into Divine Flesh, does it stack at all?
no keystones dont stack
do you open 5-way carries in your device or do you trade the emblems?
you can do both, but if you open yourself you are usually asked to change the gateway
Anyone tried doing Glacier without alcing? Is it any worse? Can't seem to sustain alc orbs and I'm getting tired of buying them
pick up uniques
hey guys cant find the info so which level are the 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 armies battles ?
5 is t16ish so 83
IIRC 68/73/78/83. Can't recall where I read it
What build can clear monolith easily and is also very budget?
I wanna do ED but i am not sure what to get for the build
there are tons of guides my friend
Also trickster vs occultist
go read around
educate yourself
and pick one
if you're just going to farm low level monoliths you could do it on a juggernaut if you had gear
neither, pathfinder for speed
Really?
Wait wouldn't pathfinder be the MF variant? Because i don't have the currency to get the gear needed for it
does ascendency give quant? 🙃
-_- generally MF want speed is what i was saying
so if you dont go mf you just self curse yourself with t.chains to go slower and not interfere with mf speeds? 🙃
you want speed for glacier/low lvl farming
you also want the 50% inc aoe from pf
dmg is fine on its own
Thanks

Do you happens to know of a guide somewhere because i am nowhere close to go on my own building something in that gigantic tree
just take the trickster tree
and copy it
and shift points to use it as a pathfinder
or just play a trickster
I mean trickster and pathfinder starting point is close anyways can't be too hard to do that without messing up right?
not really especially since you just path to all nodes with the chaos multiplier and life
http://poe-profile.info/profile/FaustVIII/WhereNextToConquer is my take on it via vaal blight
if you dont want acro you can path straight up to shadow
Alright, i will try that. I leveled two characters and was getting bored so i wanted something to farm monolith effectively and that didn't require too much currency i will switch to MF when i do have the currency
if you dont want the second curse path into templar for more aoe
"bad pointer in LegionBreakout" 😡
Tbh I find that I make more per hour with a max movespeed build over a max iiq build
so im sure this has been asked before, but does anyone have any suggestions for non-HH 5-way legion builds?
Yeah play the HH builds without the HH
The reason HH builds are HH builds is purely because they already clear really quickly
ive been playing a TS deadeye and i definitely wouldnt have enough damage for a 5-way
even with mostly 21/20 gems and big damage abyss jewels
Is it just me or are generals stupidly tanky
along with having ungodly damage output
they're very tanky yes
tbh I find their damage less threatening than rare legion mobs
yeah they dont do that much damage and they telegraph the hell out of everything
Yeah generals have 5-10x the health of the map boss in my experience
in the case of a t15, it would be has high hp as guardians, i guess its a bit less...
do they still have that much health when frozen?
I think frozen health is generally less than unfrozen but I don't think I've done a comparison
anyone have a place to contact the mods on poe? i just got disconnected with like 30 seconds left in a 3 way timeless conflict, and lost everything, had 4 portals left when d/c happened
would you suggest it? or is it already noted as a glitch/bug to be worked on
happened to a friend this morning and me just now
It's actually a very common issue that's been happening throughout the whole league
i just got dc'd
anyone else?
i just finished a 5way emblem run and immediately dc'd and now cant get back in. says cant connect to patching server
i dont think its an issue with the emblem run. if it was we would be able to get right back in
and i cant
hello?
ok y is no one responding
because either nobody is reading it, nobody cares or nobody has anything to say
Literally read the comments above yours
i read the comments above mine my question was was it still happening to anyone because those comments were from earlier
because if its an issue with the game then others would be dc'd right now. i need to know if its still a game issue or an issue on my end......
ok i got in but i cant ;leave oriath
every time i try i dc on load screen
Is farming 3 way profitable? The set cost is roughly the same as shaper set and will surely drop more currency on average, and I want to lv up to 95 too
Still have tons of mobs
Elder maps may be better exp wise but I want to earn some currency too
maps are generally profitable too
i doubt 3way will be anything exciting in terms of money
but it also depends on what youre farming with
Hmm probably, even 5 way is a little underwhemling in terms of loots
When I got carries
Try to find a few reddit posts about 2 or 3 ways, I read that theyre a lot better than 5 ways for currency
when I ran like 40 2-ways the other day to finish my challenges
it seemed like it wasn't bad for currency
but emblem prices are high enough that I don't think it was profitable still
even with a couple exalt drops
what do you guy link with smite gem 😄
try looking what these guys socketed https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?item=The-Wise-Oak&skill=Smite @minor void
Think 5 ways got stealth nerfed?
Has anyone else noticed large amounts of ES-bypassing damage with non-Vaal Legion? I think I've seen it with a couple of hits but definitely that rare mod that creates a fireball that follows you. It'll do 2k damage but leave my 1k ES alone
Do you have any timeless keystones
Are you a Trickster?
Could it just be the ES recovery when hit instantly putting your ES back to full?
Hmm maybe. I'll see if I can stream it and church if I lose one
But wow that means I'm getting hit for 3k damage in a T2
Legion rares don't fuck around
That would make sense, though. Recovery is instant so I wouldn't notice the dip
I'm brazilian, would you have any br here?
any suggestions on what conflicts to do? (combining the timeless splinter to make tha "maps")
do a 4 way to unlock 5th map device slot
how do emblem battles work anyway
same as monoliths, where you have to kill enemies under timer to unlock them?
no. round area with big monolith in the centre. unlock enemies just by standing next to the monolith for a couple of seconds. every time you do that it also respawns the bosses (though they have to be dead for 30 sec before you can respawn them)
so do you just keep going until all the enemies are dead, then
oh there's still a timer
ranges from I think 2:30 for a 2 way fight to about 5 for a 5 way fight
so you keep respawning stuff and killing it until the timer runs out
then big lootsplosion
based on how much stuff you killed, right
yeah
symbol enemies spawn like a normal monolith and there's a tracker for what you've killed at the bottom
yeah, cyclone is cheap and good
the bosses have symbols plus can drop jewels
but still
hmm, interesting
do enemies come to you
or do you have to go to them
you pretty much have to go to them
k
Is there a way to know a boss has spawned during a Timeless Monolith encounter other than the obvious of searching within the time-limit
there is a visual and an audio cue now
Which patch was that added in?
Sweet. Thanks, guess I'll just have to see what the visual cue looks like. Can't find it in the web.
It's a large crackle of purple energy that forms an arrow pointing in the direction of the general
The slightly awkward thing is that it takes 2 or 3 seconds after the timer starts to become really visible
No
Flasks don't stack nor do similar prefixes/suffixes on them like having increased armour during flask effect on 2 flasks. It'll take the highest rolled one and ignore the others.
Do any of you guys randomly crash during 5 ways? I crash in the middle and idk how to fix it.
Yes, very common issue, been one throughout the whole league
Probably need a better Pc or lower graphics
Hmmm i dont think it's a pc issue though i just built mine a couple months ago on i5-9400f and rtx2060, 16gb ram, nvme ssd
I see a lot doing 5w curries but why don't they host it themselves then sell portals it would be a
lot more efficient
Would it really
Easier to find someone who's already got their 5way and is looking for a carry than to find like 6 people that all want a carry at the same time, I would think
also less ways to get scammed as carry
Carrys make most of their money from leveling enlightens and empowers from what I've heard
Well yeah most dont even ask for tips at this point
still better to sell your stones from what I have seen
y'all use blood or sand mode during monolith
Relative to if you have enought damage in Sand mode...
sand
Sand. Damage mitigation is harder than DPS to get
LUL u need like 2080TI graphics card to do 5way legion?
i have a 1050ti currently and i do 5 ways no problem
Isn't it more cpu intensive?
not if you go for global illumination and stuff 😉
can soeone please give me some advice for legion encounters V?
im cyclone. i have only the maraketh left to do and i have no idea how to move faster
i couldve SWORN i got all of them but i didnt
im currently doing UGR
I found carcass the best @lusty sparrow . a lot of positions cause literally 20 mobs to spawn because it's so narrow
i got it ty @silver kettle just had to find the right placement in UGR
Any minimum requirement for trying 5 ways legion? minimum shaper damage, eHP...
I want try to see how good I am in it or the league is only " repawn creep" only for anyone who dont have HH.
If u can comfortably clear legion generals in t16s then ur fine for 5 ways
never did that before 😦
seem like i going to risk 2ex .
Should I aim for the general or just spawn "treasure "creep? I mean which should be my priority ? see some guy inorge the generals and keep respawn
you dont wanna focus on generals if it takes you longer then 5-6 seconds to kill them
not sure about non-HH builds, but they tend to alternate them, as they kill em so quick that you are only getting 2-3 of them respawning at a time. They have a cooldown after killed before they'll respawn, even if someone is constantly resetting
so the normal way a HH carry does it.. is one rotation around, ignoring generals and building up stacks, then they start killing them since it only takes 1 second. id imagine for non-HH, you'll get more loot only doing a few per rotation.
and what killing the general give us?
lots of extra splinter
thank you guys, those info will save me a lot of ex 😄
how do you get the 5 slot map device?
Do a 4 way battle
oof, just did my first Legion battle, 2-way, got like 2 rows of loot icons, seemed pretty terrible for loot? ED+Contagion, hopped out and did ED+Contagion, wait a few seconds then reset
my gear is trash, that probably doesn't help 😛
I know the legion jewels only drop from the Generals, is that also true for the other legion uniques?
yeah I think those are also general drops
I run a cyclone build for this reason, i use my ed cont for general drops and cyclone to focus the generals
2 different toons, use a different one for whatever i feel like farming
ok cool, thanks Wallach and LSunder
for your cyclone char you:
kill generals -> reset -> repeat?
I prefer summoner for legion generals, it just works so well and melts them so fast
but I'm also on HC
Totems good too
My cyclone juggg uses chest links for warchief
Vaal warchief is op
When I don't want to play chicken with lag I just spam warchiefs and run around
@worn sedge This isnt really a showcase channel and your video doesn't explain anything. Since you have posted nothing that would spur a discussion im afraid this violates rule 3
starforge slayer cyclone gave me around 3 rows and only 1 timeless in 5 way no HH took time to kill generals maybe did 4-5 resets and general kills before timer went off.
Anyone in need of free 5 emblem boost? I have 350ex + gear and I only want xp (can even help with pricechecking etc)
maybe here is were i ask this question!
i need scorpion sentinal to finish one of my achievments
what map should i rinse and repeat
How much to tip for a 4-5 emblem carry?
#1┃looking-for-group or global 820, most dont want tips now just the xp @hushed sequoia
Tyvm
@EQUALIZER#7682 yeah no
Just a bit confused by this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2621946 In particular this quote
"In Legion we experimented with end game content that could be played endlessly."
Can a run of the Domain of Timeless Conflict alone really provide enough materials to start another one? If yes, is a Headhunter required to do so?
I am just curious, nowhere near the required gear level apparently.
im guessing what they mean is it's end-game content with endless replayability
not self-sustaining
Self sustaining haha geez that would be interesting . Would make very league timeless domain league until they nerf it
2-3 ways emblem worth it at all? Or just better to do 4-5?
2-3 is more worthhwhile loot wise than 5 ways
Comparing the cost to the profit at least
We need more 5 ways emblems hosting parties that sell portals
actualyl there are barely 3 players doing it and almost never online
We could sometimes see 10 players offering 5w carry services forever
but from the customer point of view a lot including me
prefer to pay 7 8 exalted for full rotation
and not 3 exalted for one single run
can someone point me to the timesless jewel archvie discord? got some juicy one to post
you got 2 weeks ms. skeltal
😔
❤
eternal confirmed 100%
may as well say that guild improvements are coming too
while we're on the topic of "shit that's not coming"
Lol the old currency tab
so is the league name really eternal or are you guys just trolling
didnt catch any leak

might be in the 3.7.5 files or something
f5 f5 f5 f5
tower defence league 
"GGG said they woudnt do any mini game leagues before 4.0" lululul
SIte's dead for me 😭
oooh league of op rings
Holy crap this is exciting looking POGGERS
tower defense time baby
woah allocating passives as enchantments?
so many possibilities now
that +3 gem lvl dagger
additional keybindings 
yessss master stacking! pog
What is "+3 to level of ALL physical spell skill gems"?
Does that mean your chest is getting +3 blade vortex?
SYNTHESIS
Twer defense POE fun concept, we can only wait now to see what it will be
Seems everypatch now they tro to improve QOL of the game which is good
not that thing again....
I dont think they'll add synthesised again its probably more some "skins" area or mob just
mm
league mechanic leaves me skeptical
reveal trailer also makes putting town towers look clunky as shit
At first glance it seemed quite slow paced actually
in T2 map 😄
the new echants dont stack with lab right?
inb4 ggg adds massive damage resistance to non tower damage
I feel like it's going to be a league mechanic that's compeltely skipped by 'meta' skills.
sounds like something they'd pull
It's funny how blight is like poe meets dungeon defender. I like it!
" made deeper depths easier to access in Delve, "
It just seems like if the towers aren't like busted af for damage, it's pointless.

If you already one shot most white mobs and 2 tap some blue packs, what does the tower do?
I think you'll need the tower at some point, some probably causeof the element they give willa ffect monster at least maybe some cold to slow them
on huge encounter blight, that could help, we'll see
I imagine blight monsters will be many times more hp, compared to normal monsters
Or maybe take less dmg from players and not towers
I mean, sure, but it seems the encounter will either take too long and not be worth it, or be completely forced, like league.
*legion
necro finaly got some buff
especialy for a league like that it can probably be a huge class with your mobs tanking nd clearing all spawning mob of the TD
"Blight monsters are unusually tough"
Correct, I understand that.
In the commentary
But, it just seems that you'd just ignore them if the encounter is too long.
Idk, maybe I'm takign this from the wrong perspective, but I am someone who dislikes totem playstyles.
inb4 summoners or toxic rain becomes next worb/cyclone.
And this seems like forced playstyles. That's all.
Looks like ED/Cont start for me again
we'll see. 
its kinda like legion right? mobs spawn and then u loot the box
Is this the League of Focus? Never used the skill due to my skillbar being full
Granted, it's not the EXACT same. But, totems that you upgrade.
Like, I feel like there are so many other ways to defend stuff that we have in the game.
whats focus ? i never get how to use this, are you talking about the mod for veil items ?
Wooooah
yh that one
Nodes on gear?
Forcing the player to use towers doesn't seem fun.
its kinda like legion right? mobs spawn and then u loot the box
You get the Focus skill automatically as soon as you equip an item that says "Focus" on it. This is never explained.
which notable is the best/rariest?
Maybe you wont be "forced"é like for exemple i think at some point when you are strong you can probably dont use all or maybe nay tower to clear mob, but that will help at start i guess and probably at later stage to have more optimal clear on huge huge blight encounter.
i think they might be more helping stuff than mendatory
some can answer please
Yes but no
the loot boxes are the only thing similar and that you have to activate the mechanic
This league sounds fucking amazing imo, can’t wait!
lol
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINES
big mine nerf
sorry I mean mechanics change
Everything i wanted to play since I started is being buffed now!
i still dont get it .. u activate the thing and then minions attacks u kill them and u get loot box right? is that it?
yes
Blight is channeled chaos dot skill that stacks up to 20 times, here is all the info you sought after
you get it
Mines are now traps? 0.o
Yes
The new poison skill chain proj thingy sounds cool af
Then what are traps
mines are traps and look like they probably don't shotgun bosses the same
yes more or less
Mines don't blow up at same time
My Tremor Rod is tingly.
they got forced sequence now
Skitterbots?
Huh, looks like they increased mine count like they did with traps.
At least 16 out at a time.
Wait, so does Cold Iron Point give a level bonus to gems not socketed in it
That's a global level increase?!
global yes
Poison is gonna fun to play with it looks like
+6 levels to all physical gems is going to be crazy
eh
Will I still like mines? </3
It restricts them to only phys damage
Which typically isn't great
you also lose your weapon slots
Those look like totem boots.
Mine Totems?
Mine skills now also reward you for detonating long sequences
Mine skills now also reward you for detonating long sequences
yeah
free ex?
I'm reading that as a nerf to mines personally
This is what I've been waiting for. owo
I wonder if there's also one for leaving them on the ground longer.
I can't see them increasing the boss viability for mines
wait +6 levels to all physical gems is going to be crazy whats this for haha?
blade vortex/bladefall or something
I guess this is to bring phys spell in line with impale and convert
I can't see it being used really though
There might be new phys spells tho
can't deal elem dmg
poison bois
Mm true
poison BV 
assASSin will return
I hope skitterbots aren't terrible.
I'd still probably rather have a fossil crafted poison dagger or something
Am...am I going to be a summoner miner
We'll see though
Wait where's the raider changes?
Not listed here yet
nah
They'll be in a changes post
raider's getting changes this league
they are buffing daresos defiance?
is this a wormblaster?
I can get instant mines on an amulet. owo
sounds more like chain hook upsidedown
what's the +6 for in which slot?
source?
but you'd wear the two weapons with +3s and 6L in your chest
Tower defense 
I like the flavor text
poison is back i guess yo tank
Seems that way but I'm hesitant to celebrate
Show me the sabo
but elem conversion minions 👀
Please be gentle ggg
I wonder what will break
idk how I feel about the conversion gloves
Also, reworked 24 uniques? Steppan Eard~?
something will
??
Conversion used to be hard to get for minions
Rework steppan?
No, hoping for one
Why
Because I like ground effects
they're good boots
They should work with friendly ground effects.
notable passives in items wow amazing
maybe never
Are you able to annoint an item multiple times to reroll the notable?
didnt show as currupted so prob yeah
Oh, it only works on rings and amulets.
and 4 uniques
So free 3 notables without having to path to them.
And then the unique set is annointable armour?
yeah but its 99% useless notables for you
It does look kind of like you'll be able to see which notable is being applied before you set it
but that's a bit less certain
and good ones are rare af priced for 20ex
and I'd be a bit surprised
I'm guessing that it's gonna be like synthesis
Where they expect people to figure out what the notables are from the oils used.
+1 curse will easily be a bajillion ex
?
But this time they're gonna try to guard it from datamining.
Isn't +1 curse a keystone..
Is Whispers of Doom the best notable on the tree?
How important is it for 2k HP build to not get hit by a single od those green balls on izaro fight ? Can I take 1 hit ?
Which izaro
whale oil be fucked
Uber
Yes, you will die.
whispers of doom is indeed a notable
Ye
That makes sense
What’s whisper of doom do
Heartseeker THO
+1 curse
There are some good notables
How high can bladefall be pushed with those daggers?
Oh, when did they add int to the wand wheel?
I'm thinking the main notables people would go for are '+1 curse' and anything instant
There are now 13 secret passives that have been added which you can unlock in the skill tree only from oil combinations.
Like mines or warcry
21 + 6 +4 +4 ?
21 gem, +4 chest, empower 4 (+3), +1 socketed supports (elder chest), +6 from 2 weapons?
There are secret passives?
So we pick a reward from a tower, defend as many pathways as possible and collect loot at the end?
Wait wherw did u find that @tiny flint
so it'd be 21 +4+4+6 = level 35
I wonder how good IC will be here.
Hory shet
all i want was a simple league like prophecy damn
Literal tower defense
slow build league 
eh it's a simple league if you just skip the blight
It's gonna be +1 curse, leech of any type and life notables that people will want. Many of the other notables also have decent enough passive leading up to them
Well it is simple, just pick a reward and Cyclone on top of the tower with the best reward
slow build league mechanic*
most likely we'll make more by skipping the mechanic though if it puts you in place for very long
They added more boss encounters back into the base game!!!
Cyclone Neb Jugg carry back on the menu for currency
Oh boy, the oils have a stack size of 10, and from past experience i cant imagine that GGG are changing any of the special stash tabs to include them..
but so much clutter rares for those + tower stats
The screen is INSANELY cluttered for the tower defense part. What are they going to do to prevent this from becoming Synthesis 2.0 in terms of screen clutter and horrible UX?
So spiritual aid as enchant now?
Sure, but they have a stack size of 5000 in the currency tab @copper torrent
@stable dragon just dont build towers lol
Wait, it doesn’t say anything about Lab enchant fixes?
Yeah spiritual aid as an affix is going to be pretty nuts
But we can have more skills on our bars now
Totem shoes?
Hek ya
Sole Mantle
🤣
https://youtu.be/4y15sxfuiZI holy smokes those bois go fast
Path of Exile: Blight will feature some tweaks and revamps to your summoning capabilities. You can find our in-depth preview here: https://bit.ly/2HiCjPV Als...
They'll talk more about other game changes in further news posts @weak elm
@wispy crest The buttons are literally IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN while trying to fight monsters. I don't thkin that's going to work.
another TS league
Stupid tower, you are now built
ill do ez 36 challenge and quit i suppose
lets see they might do it this league
@sly tusk Yeah, in the extra slots, but i think i read something about 13 differnt oils, and considering other currencies that still dont have their dedicated slot..
Carrion Golem does bone roil?
don't worry though, you won't see 3-5 of those oils
I think he's kinda cute. <3


