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low kindle
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I feel like vaal jewels should have more possible seeds

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At least as much as eternal ones

placid grotto
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they could; we don't know how seeds interact with effects

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if it's been mapped, I haven't seen anything about it

north dragon
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doh private league characters/tabs gone after the private league ended

haughty estuary
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it would be cool if the jewel showed what benefit you're getting while the nodes are allocated in the description

next epoch
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@north dragon they should show up in the parent league -- legion or standard, depending

north dragon
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Found the char but it's still in the private league that's over and cant migrate

next epoch
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huh. how long ago did the private league end?

proven wadi
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someone said i was ready for atziri, and they were not correct >:l

north dragon
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3 days ago

grand belfry
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atziri is easy, if you have enough dps to never let her attack

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lol

rare crystal
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Hi!
I'd like advice from a glacier farmer.
I've been farming shaped glaciers for a while, but I stopped because full clearing the map to sustain is just annoying. I reshaped my atlas to farm t2 glaciers (blocking t2, t3 but not t4s).

I just finished running the 15 maps I had to start the flow, but to my surprise I'm not sustaining. I'm not even close, I dropped 3 maps. Also, oddly enough, all t1s I've dropped (6 maps total) are sulfur vents.
If people actually oversustain from just hitting the monolith and exiting, the odds of me getting 3 maps or less are astronomically low.
Am I missing somethiong there or is t2 sustaining just a big hoax carried around by people watching streams and not actually farming glaciers?

rare crystal
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Welp, update time. 15 maps later full clearing, I have 39 maps. I guess that was just insanely bad luck

faint reef
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Anyone know if theres any streamers that do the Legion Jewel auction? I know Ziz just did he last one probably so theres no really good way to show it off.

nimble sun
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@rare crystal 15 maps is a tiny pull, once u hav ea decent amount, u can start not full clearing and go at it

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im sustainting t7 glacier, without full clear so its even easier in t2

wind copper
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You can sustain T7 glacier? That's good to know.

rare crystal
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I wasn't able to sustain shaped without clearing the grotto in most of them

wind copper
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When you sustain T7 glaciers, are you alch-n-go only?

rare crystal
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I guess I was just insanely unlucky with my t2 pull, it's fixed now and I'm slightly oversustaining

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yes

wind copper
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Nice

rare crystal
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I mean, alch and go sustains up to t11-t12

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<ith fullish atlas

wind copper
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Yeah

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I've had a pesky time with my shaper quests, so I don't have elder orb yet. I have 18% 2 tiers higher bonus right now, with all 2's and 3's pulled off my atlas. But I might be able to shape Glacier, which has no adjacent, and sustain without elder orb....

barren mica
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@rare crystal yah the glacier maps drops in a bunch once in awhile which helps to sustain. 80% of the time you'll get 1 map back from clearing just the monolith area. and 1/5 times you got 2 or more map drops. sometimes i get up to 4 maps return from 1 run.

red wharf
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how do people selling atziri throne in temple proceed further? I imagine buyers would have to wait in my hideout and enter temple portal on my call as I drop atziri to low hp? or are there other ways?

cursive gust
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Will emblems be obtainable in standard once league ends, if so, how?

languid path
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no official statement

proven wadi
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why aren't people using aukuna's will? is it just not worth it to blow up your own zombies?

silver kettle
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GGG only tell us that pretty close to league end @cursive gust

cursive gust
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Ah ok

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Will emblems be usable in standard once league ends?

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Or do they not tell you that either

silver kettle
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probably, but again have to see

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all this stuff gets explained in a big news post around the same time as the next league is announced

cursive gust
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Synthesis v2

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I'd like

haughty estuary
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@rare crystal how many maps do you need to uncomplete to get it to sustain

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just 7 and 8?

rare crystal
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sorry what?

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For shaped glaciers, yeah, I just uncompleted the 2 tiers

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Classic shaping strategy, nothing special.

haughty estuary
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wasnt sure if it was only the two maps it could upgrade to

sweet grove
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is biscos collar worth it for glacier farming?

dusty umbra
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ehhhhh

velvet palm
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You're better off grabbing an amulet with 9-10 quant for an ex

patent canyon
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talisman with quant goes less that that

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can prob get usable thing for few c

opal nacelle
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What happens if an emblem carry fails? Instance crash

celest atlas
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does that ever happen ? .. e..g if you crash and you get back in the portals should still be there and you should be able to get at least the stuff you collected so far if the time run out meanwhile

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( should take longer than 8-15 min to reconnect tho . shold be normal rules for the instance)

copper kernel
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INSTANCE crash

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they aint getting back in

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its not something that the carry controls

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so

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shit happens

celest atlas
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yes but how often does that happen ?

copper kernel
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depends on the gateway

solar oyster
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Free Emblem carry looking for work

brisk capeBOT
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split inlet
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Im running my first HC toon on legion. Haven't done any of the emblems yet. Approx what tier map difficulty are they? I think i saw they were level 75? So that makes them what t7-t8? Would you guys say they are harder than t7/8? Just dont wanna overstep and RIP my HC toon

marsh minnow
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the level of the encounter depends on how many emblems you toss in

split inlet
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ahh ok. Can you do just one? or need at least 2?

marsh minnow
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2 minimum i would think, not much of a conflict with only 1 side

split inlet
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fair. with just two emblems any idea of the map difficulty?

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my HC toon can handle t8 right now but slightly worried at that tier for survivabily (still need some better items)

marsh minnow
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i think 3 way is lvl75 so somewhere under that, anyway

split inlet
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hrmmm mmmk. i might wait just a bit until next item upgrade to give it a shot tbh

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better to not risk it

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thanks @marsh minnow

sonic kettle
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Im having a hard time right now if someone could help me figure this out :

Im trying to have those 2 points where you can gain power charge and frenzy charge easily ->

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Im using an elegant hubris right at that spot, but it gives me different kind of power, I dont really understand why ?

languid path
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because each of the same jewel has different number

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the number determines what the modified nodes will do

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so if you want that exact result, you need to get a jewel with the exact same number

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ie 153540

sonic kettle
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oh god

fast spoke
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lol

sonic kettle
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well, this is 9ex instead of 5c 😄

fast spoke
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You can likely buy a few of the 5c ones and find something that'll work

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Or divine your own

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It's a very interesting mechanic and doesn't lend particularly well or cheaply to some of the new builds that it enables

sonic kettle
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is there any logic in that system ? or do I just try randomly ?

fast spoke
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There's logic to it for sure, but we don't know it

sonic kettle
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the name of the guy matters ?

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"Chitus" in that case ?

languid path
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the jewel can transform keystones, the name determines what the resulting keystones are

sonic kettle
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ohhhh okay I see, thats why last time I had no problem

muted lotus
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Question regarding shock: If I have "Adds # Lightning Damage to attacks" on a ring in my cyclone build (30% crit chance/8 attacks per second) will I have 100% uptime of the shock ailment on bosses?

royal gale
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very likely yes but your shock value will probably be very low

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if you dont have enough added damage you may not have enough to pass the threshold on a boss enemy

muted lotus
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isnt it like a 20% incoming damage debuff at minimum?

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ok I see now...a single 40k lightning hit on Shaper to apply the ailment

proven wadi
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technically it won't shock if it doesn't do enough damage right?

muted lotus
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seems that way...and its a LOT of damage for any boss where its meaningful

proven wadi
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yeah thats what makes elementalist shock meaningful

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it just applies a minimum value

muted lotus
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I guess they have to have something 😉

midnight phoenix
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A 40k lightning hit on shaper gives u a 1% shock

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Thats not exactly worth bothering with

safe sky
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uh is there something we can use to price timeless jewels

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cause like im confused

slender temple
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ok i looking atbuying a lethal pride jewel but how do i know in advance what it will affect? is there a way?

languid path
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nope cadibro

marble quest
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endurance gain if hit recently isnt worth anything is it

violet nymph
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Anyone here seen any lethal prides with over 41% flask effect?

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Ive never seen any with over 41% so far

unkempt finch
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nope, "when hit" triggers are very unreliable

low kindle
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Lethal pride doesn't have flask effect

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You want brutal restraint

loud kindle
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@slender temple only the unique Keystones, based on the name of the person mentioned in the jewel

pseudo snow
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taking the same corrupted keystone twice won't stack, right?

teal axle
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correct

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that'd be lit but broken af

pseudo snow
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2x divine flesh for 90% chaos res and 100% ele to chaos conversion? nah, sounds perfectly balanced to me

teal axle
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40% less damage taken when not hit, 100% more evasion when hit

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but yeah they dont stack

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you can always wear something like an incandescent heart to get more "take ele as chaos"

low kindle
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That's only for hits

quartz ivy
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legion mechanics .. the league where the instance crashes in the most important conflict

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wasting more than 1 exalted

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just like that

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yay

pseudo snow
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unlike synthesis, where your most important conflict would just be completely barricaded, or betrayal, where running the most important conflict was actively bad for you unless you were challenge hunting? or delve/bestiary where the most important conflict just straight up didn't spawn for 95% of the playerbase... GGG isn't good at this stuff 😉

loud kindle
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@pseudo snow i wonder how many people ACTUALLY got to see an aul fight by themselves, ever. probably less than 0,1% of all active players tbh

quartz ivy
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There's a conflict in delve and bestiary

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wat

proven wadi
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Yeah bestiary has super beasts

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You ever heard of farruls

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Those items come from a boss fight basically

restive anvil
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Lol I remember getting one portal mob in bestiary

proven wadi
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I wonder if they exist still

tidal frost
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I saw auld but he had 200% elemental dmg and other shit at depth 600 and hit way too hard

fluid osprey
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is there a place for buying/selling timeless jewels? like a discord channel or ingame chat

silver kettle
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@fluid osprey r/chronoswap or the channel in #trading

fluid osprey
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thanks

normal kraken
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lmao at chronoswap, the sub's creator has his own jewel pinned

silver kettle
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Oh god, that's classy

low kindle
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Well that could be any of you

glad thicket
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How's SRS versus monolith encounters? A quick test at low level seemed to indicate the skulls scattered to the four winds, prioritizing whichever target is furthest from them and wasting tremendous time traveling. Is this correct?

proven wadi
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Does anything do lightning damage over time to the player?

normal kraken
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shimmeron

haughty harbor
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Shock and horrors lightning beam. Shapers beam is also partially lighting afaik

balmy wadi
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The Eradicator's Lightning Orb form, probably his volley too

hidden holly
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what keystone passive from the timeless jewels do you guys like the most

proven wadi
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I like the life recovered from Mana one

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Idk why people look at it and think it should be combined with MoM though unless you already have more than 20% Mana regen

hidden holly
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I was thinking about going for dance with death

proven wadi
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That's an interesting one

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Use it with kintsugi and double up

fast spoke
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take it twice and wear 3 kintsugis

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keystones don't stack though if someone reads that and has the idea

hidden holly
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do you think it would work well with divine ire

proven wadi
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It works well if you have good evasion

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Just in general

leaden wraith
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do legion jewel keystones stack

midnight phoenix
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Keystones never stack

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No exceptions

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You have a keystone or you dont

leaden wraith
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rip

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i thought i could get 30% more dmg

low kindle
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Agnostic is good to be combined with mom because just agnostic doesn't protect you from big hits

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However, you can also build agnostic with reserving almost all your mana, because only mana regen matters. But why would you?

hidden holly
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@leaden wraith you can only equip one timeless jewel at a time anyway

leaden wraith
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yeah but

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2 keystones

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in the aoe

low kindle
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Yeah just casually convert 100% of elemental damage taken to chaos and have 90% max chaos res

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This one is probably the most broken

copper kernel
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keystones dont stack

low kindle
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I know

proven wadi
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I wasn't exactly saying you shouldn't take MoM with it, more that I was seeing people talking about combining them without considering how to upkeep Mana

proven wadi
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does using the crafting bench to color by changing sockets still work?

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*number of sockets

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ok it does. I was just having a really long streak of bad luck

placid grotto
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Anyone else feel like the number of rares in Legion encounters feels constant across maps or is it just me

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(not the total number of monsters; that definitely changes)

short basin
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any1 got a picture of what a legion with general monolith looks like?

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or at least explain what it looks like

marsh minnow
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there will be purple energy/gas pointing off in the direction of the general

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they also added an audio cue recently, but i'm not sure what it sounds like yet

short basin
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thx

proven wadi
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Oh those purple things that point to the monolith will point to the general once I click on it?

placid grotto
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The Monolith has a delay in my experience. It's a light purple whispy thing

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I've yet to notice the audio after 5+ generals

tough roost
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It's a delay of about 1~ second

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Though I find the indicator quite noticeabl

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And it's how I've gotten pretty much all of my generals on my somewhat slow Vortex build

proven wadi
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I've always been too frantic to pay attention so far, but I noticed that there seems to be these Frozen in time mortar fires towards generals?

placid grotto
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Provably but I compensate for not paying attention with EDC 😁

short basin
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hopefully ill notice it

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i was playing magma orb for a while so it was never obvious

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360 degree clear the trash but never saw any generals because of it

placid grotto
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I beeline to the general's area, as soon as the rares die, beeline to the other side. Mostly ignore white monsters

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If they die, cool. If not, no big deal

proven wadi
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I don't have time to kill everything cause I'm melee :/

placid grotto
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They drop trash 99% of the time anyways

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With AoE bigger than most spells?

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Or is it the teleport behind you Weaboo Fightan Magic

proven wadi
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I'm playing melee ele hit, which has splash built in, with ancestral call

placid grotto
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Oh so as close as you can get to a spell but still use accuracy chrisThinking

proven wadi
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I ignore accuracy with effigon and flesh and stone

placid grotto
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Lol

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This game

proven wadi
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Basically a spell build except I get to be zerker

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Which is nice and all if I'm ramped up

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Not so nice if I'm at zero rage

grand belfry
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I can't stand legion bosses that spam lightning clone spells

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what can you even do against it

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2 of them going off near you is enough to kill most people

silver kettle
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don't stop moving

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they only explode if they stand on top of you

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it's annoying though definitely

grand belfry
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eventually you run out of room to keep jumping to

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and you run into one

next epoch
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regardless. even for a game that loves its "move or die" effects, lightning clones feel overtuned

grand belfry
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they are retardedly overtuned

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like f me I get standing in a fireblast but screw whoever came up with these things

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for some legion bosses that's the only thing they do

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spam-cast lightning clones on you

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It's like if shock and horror could summon nukes right on top of you

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instead of a murder-beam

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ohh and I love how we have atleast 9 seconds to try and find something to break out 'try' and read its ungodly mods and -then- try to break it out

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dissapointing league IMO

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love the melee updates though

next epoch
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like, on an even more basic level -- they don't look like they should do anywhere near as much damage as they do

grand belfry
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I know!

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That's the sickest part about this garbage mechanic

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those chasing fireballs have a sound queue thing while these things are way more dangerous and really blend into other effects

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also that username is hilarious

prisma heart
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what kind of damage do the legion mobs that hit their shield and create shockwaves do

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my character cant evade it and it does huge damage

proven wadi
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big damage

prisma heart
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i mean is it a phys spell or what

proven wadi
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hmm

prisma heart
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or phys attack that cannot be evaded

proven wadi
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maybe its in the datamine

prisma heart
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i dont know what that is

proven wadi
prisma heart
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i didnt see it in there

proven wadi
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there are monster stats in there, but I'm not 100% sure how to find them

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i know that if you know the monster name you can type it in the search bar, like "raised zombie" or "hairy bonecruncher" or "slave driver"

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but shouldn't there be a list of like, new legion monsters? that's what stumps me

civic wyvern
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So I have the templar jewel (the green one) shouldn't acrobatics count for the notable?

languid path
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acrobatic is a keystone

civic wyvern
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it's a notable isnt it?

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I have the keystone done

languid path
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I just said it's a keystone, so it doesn't count

civic wyvern
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ohh

languid path
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and not all notables will be transformed by templar

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only some

civic wyvern
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what im confused, what is a keystone then? phase acro?

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i mean notable

languid path
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that's a notable

civic wyvern
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but thats also allocated

languid path
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but as I said, not all notables are transformed by templar jewels

civic wyvern
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gotcha

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so I need to find one that is

languid path
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yes, it will have a new icon

civic wyvern
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ty

quiet geyser
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How much area of effect do i need on vaal ice nova to clear full monolith?

midnight phoenix
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I found 50-55 radius was ok, for consistent full clear u would want 55+

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Which is like 230% inc aoe total

quartz dome
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(circled red)

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</way late>

low kindle
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Does anyone even use those Templar notables

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Kinda defeats the purpose of tree traversing, which is hunting notables

quartz dome
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it depends on if you get a lot of them with really good affects all nearby among other minors that benefit you

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or just in general if you're picking up a lot of close clusters

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on the other hand if you get one of the major stat notables with it it's sorta garbo

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I have one that changes a dex notable into +1 all max res, but to get enough devotion to actually earn that is absolutely not worth the point investment 🤷

hidden holly
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i think someone is trying to price fix brutal restraint jewels

low kindle
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remember when they were 40ex templarLul

brazen portal
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Hey guys, how do we go about pricing timeless jewels? Make a level 90'ish Scion and check out every single slot?

hidden holly
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or make a bunch of pvp only level 28 scions

charred totem
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How do Timeless Jewels work in terms of copying someones build? Do you need to get the exact number on the jewel or is there a range before it changes to something else?

next epoch
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They don't, basically

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I mean, if you can find an identical jewel you're gucci, but good luck with that

forest glacier
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Is there a way I can put into pob for the blind with 25% more crit chance?

eager charm
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on a jewel + configs

sand meadow
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So how do i know if any of the jewels are beneficial for MF TS Deadeye...?

tame mauve
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pvp only scion

next epoch
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aka the first and last time you will ever create a pvp only char

tame mauve
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bsadly

patent canyon
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not if league mechanic goes core

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then you will have pvp character every league

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wait

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is this how ggg will promote pvp now? 👀

low kindle
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Imagine ggg pulling a big Jebaited and making exilecon finals a pvp tourney

slender temple
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Hah

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I deleted my PvP char after plopping the gems in the removing and banking

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Pvp and hardcore are two things that I don't like in arpg.

hardy prism
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does any1 know/any source have all the timeless jewels bonuses (possibilities)

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i kinda wanna see a pin/post regarding each class/skill/char and good possibilities timeless jewels bonus that mix together

gritty ember
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we have lists of the potential mods on the wiki

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Path of Exile Wiki

Timeless JewelPlace into an allocated Jewel Socket on the Passive Skill Tree. Right click to remove from the Socket.AcquisitionLevel: 1League(s): LegionOther than by drop, the only way to obtain a Timeless Jewel is to corrupt five unique Timeless Jewels into rares, then sell ...

velvet ivy
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Speaking of timeless jewels, does anyone know where one can find a place to buy or sell them?

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Traditional sites definitely can't gauge how good a timeless jewel is and there's no way to search for specific ones

silver kettle
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r/chronoswap or there's a channel in #trading @velvet ivy

velvet ivy
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ooooooooh

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@silver kettle ily. Chronoswap looks juicy

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Oh and the PoE trade discord channel has a Timeless Jewel specific section too. Holy moly 😮

placid grotto
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What's an effective Glacier Legion build? Looking for something that does it better/faster than EDC. Tried Vaal Ice Nova and it feels significantly more clunky than EDC. Gonna give it 1 last shot before I Respec back to EDC

fast spoke
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vaal ice nova is super nice if you get it ironed out

placid grotto
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Is it? I've noticed it seems to miss rares

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No problem with normal monsters except when they are spread out (e.g. Eternal Empire rows)

midnight phoenix
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Need more radius maybe

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If u dont have 50+ radius it cant hop between empire or templar rows all the time

placid grotto
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yeah I've got 170% increased. Feels like the build gives up quite a bit in exchange for not a lot of clear improvement. With EDC, I was sure everything was getting unlocked because it's much less intensive

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not to mention much more survivable

midnight phoenix
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I mean ur in glacier

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Dying isnt rly something that happens regardless of build

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If u get VIN set up correctly its move click move click collect loot

placid grotto
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depends. It's a T2 but Legion does hit above its weight. After swapping back, I'm positive I wasn't getting all the chests

twin rampart
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lul

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pvp characters

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back in the day when u needed dem leo crafts

scenic holly
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gonna do a quick test tonight 100x glacier with 55% quant + biscos vs 100x glacier with 55% quant + 10% quant ammy

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using ed/c build so quant is lower then deadeye but i dont feel like leveling a new character xD

spice cipher
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What are you testing exactly?

patent canyon
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something that has been already tested

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by at least 100 ppl

spice cipher
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^

scenic holly
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for legion farming? then why people keep arguing if quant vs biscos is better on every thread?

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😃

patent canyon
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because they dont care to either do testing themselves or look up what other found

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10% quant is better than biscos

thorn mauve
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hello

late rune
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biscos hasn't been better than 10% quant since the last nerf my dude

placid grotto
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For farming Legion? I'm surprised

late rune
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i wouldn't farm legion with quant gear anyway

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you want pure movespeed

placid grotto
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Depends. It seems only symbols and shards are not affected by IIQ

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I'd expect normal monsters to be

late rune
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thats all well and good but

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you still want movespeed over quant

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legion drops are so good on their own as is, you basically just want to get as many monoliths per hour as possible

placid grotto
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Depends what the scaling is

midnight phoenix
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The scaling for what

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Quant?

placid grotto
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There are diminishing returns for movement

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Quant vs more maps

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Which scales more over the range

midnight phoenix
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We know what the scaling on quant is, we've known that for years

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Imo the only reason to use either bisco or a quant amulet in glaciers is cos its free

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The opportunity cost is mega low compared to a dps amulet or a karui charge or whatever else u would put in there

sour fox
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The legion mobs don’t give you anything special. It’s all about the symbols, chests and generals. 10% or 50% increased quantity of nothing special is just that.

silver leaf
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you don't even really need movement speed imo if you doing cyclone. just switch chest to carcass jack and increased area affect if you have a blue socket and that + leap slam + quicksilver + whatever move boots can get all the things

velvet palm
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You definitely want move speed for cyclone

shrewd wasp
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quant is good for currency no?

silver leaf
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True but 30% boots + prob devotos devotion + flask should be enough

obtuse hatch
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So are there any resources to show which timeless jewels give the most benefit to certain builds

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Rather what they do in the areas where they are most commonly used

low kindle
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You need the latter to estimate the former

crystal briar
#

just check the timeless jewel page on the wiki

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it has a list of all the small nodes, notables and keystones

polar urchin
#

Is there a way to tell if a general spawned when I open a monolith?

silver kettle
#

The monolith has a purple vapour effect that kinda makes an arrow pointing to the general

polar urchin
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Oh neat

silver kettle
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But it's not very obvious when you first click it, takes a few seconds to become really clear

sour fox
#

They added an audible cue too. There’s an additional sound effect which in practice just sounds like a busier (more layered) sound. It’s still not that clear.

wanton ore
#

I read this in global 4040 before but I want to confirm this, is it true that higher tier maps spawn more maraketh over templar?

dire swan
#

Might be RNG and it could very well be true but i run t16s almost exclusively and im still a few templars ahead of maraketh

wanton ore
#

my anecdote after farming burials since a few days ago and I went from 100 splinters difference to ~200 splinters difference

dire swan
#

oh well if there is truth to it it's worth exploring, i'll keep it in mind

velvet ivy
#

yo guys how come headhunters dropped from 130 to 110ex the other day and now they're back to 135?

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same with inspired learnings. 25ex to 16ex and now they're back to 25 lol

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bc if ppl retired all their gear, it'd make sense to drop, but it wouldn't make sense for them to rise back up in price

proven wadi
#

DAMN those dash enchants

marsh wyvern
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why wouldnt it make sense to rise again? its a high demand item. once the cheap ones are sold, all that is left is the more expensive ones

placid grotto
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I don't have data for high tier maps, but for low tier, Warchests give 3-6 shards consistently

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on the high tier maps, I didn't notice much of an imporvement (if any)

velvet ivy
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@marsh wyvern figured ppl were retiring gear and so the worth of HH's and IL's would consistently diminish in price. And furthermore, the closer Legion gets to merging with Standard, the more Legion prices will meet up with Standard prices

marsh wyvern
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ah. keep in mind the changes to rarity as well, while yeah i would love to get a HH at 50ex, that just isnt gonna happen anymore i dont think.

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while it does act like a normal economy, the scale is too small making it unpredictable

wispy sonnet
#

hello what color is maraketh legion looks like? im trying to complete challenge but i dont know which one they was seem like pretty rare

marsh wyvern
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they are the rare ones, i think they are blue. they ride the dinosaurs

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i think

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ok i just looked it up. they are indeed the dino riders. the general is the only one that is phased as well.

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have to kill the dino then her

wispy sonnet
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@marsh wyvern thank you

velvet ivy
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@marsh wyvern ah true, HH's in general will be more expensive than the 50ex that they used to be due to the rarity nerfs

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I just witnessed both HH and IL's continuously drop in price for like 3 days straight. So it was strange when it spiked back up to its original price a day after

next epoch
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well, at least it had the decency to drop identified so I didn't get my hopes up too much

low kindle
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Hey, it's not wurm's molt

violet zealot
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@marsh wyvern Someone dumped a lot on the market (~50 I think?)

marsh wyvern
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yeah

velvet palm
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Empyrian sold 73 HHs for ~99ex or a bunch of stacked decks

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After vaaling 80 of course

steel inlet
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looking for advice about maxing xp gain from 5-way. Should I run myself, or find someone with headhunter offering free service? I can melt bosses pretty quickly, but only cleared 4 waves on the 4-way I ran (may have been partially due to being unfamiliar with mechanics though)

low kindle
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I mean the answer is pretty obvious

steel inlet
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im not familiar with xp in parties though, thought if you dont kill the monsters (but are nearby) you get some xp, but not that much versus doing it yourself

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thats why i was asking, if i can only clear a few waves myself, would that be better xp than someone carrying me the whole way

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if it was obvious to me, i wouldnt ask

wet plaza
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pretty positive killing vs nonkilling has no effect its just lvl difference

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Path of Exile Wiki

In order to level a character up it is necessary to get more experience. Currently there is only one source for experience in this game, which is killing monsters. Every monster gives experience depending on the type of the monster, its rarity, the area level and certain stat...

steel inlet
#

ah yeah that does explain it exactly, thank you

wet plaza
kindred dagger
#

So we agree that actualy in POE there is no the legion timeless jewel right ?

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I hope they will add them in the game after this league they can do some pretty cool things

normal kraken
#

what

proven wadi
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"there is no the legion timeless jewel"

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I think we can all agree

sour belfry
#

I found a timeless jewel ... If I make a pvp scion, how do I know what jewel socket to put it in to see the effects?

wanton ore
#

If you mean see what it does before you put it in, you can't, you have to put in the jewel to see how it changes your tree

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Also, is there any good loot filters for 5 ways so I don't waste too much time

brazen portal
#

How does one go about pricing timeless jewels? I have a few half decent ones such as 10% double damage and +20% fortify effect but since they're so random there is nothing else to gauge the price on

fickle delta
copper kernel
#

explain what

eager terrace
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that's called loot

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you can pick it up and put it in your inventory

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or don't, whatever

worthy frigate
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xD

proven wadi
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Hol up

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Oh that's console Poe never mind

rapid wharf
#

how rare is scarab monster/chest spawned? i just found out that i lack that challenge

native sonnet
#

pretty common

proven wadi
#

i just got a unique stash tab.... holy shit i love it

haughty harbor
#

Sorted all your uniques in standard yet?

dusky cobalt
#

anybody knows a good and trustable 5way carry?

proven wadi
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All my uniques in standard 😓 maybe later

novel sequoia
#

@dusky cobalt check forums?? Plenty of posts there with ppl to vouch for them

slender jetty
#

can you take a legion keystone twice? For instance, if I place a Glorious Vanity in a spot where it turns two keystones into Divine Flesh, does it stack at all?

wet plaza
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no keystones dont stack

wooden bramble
#

do you open 5-way carries in your device or do you trade the emblems?

low kindle
#

you can do both, but if you open yourself you are usually asked to change the gateway

placid grotto
#

Anyone tried doing Glacier without alcing? Is it any worse? Can't seem to sustain alc orbs and I'm getting tired of buying them

low kindle
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pick up uniques

placid grotto
#

blah

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I guess I'm getting that quad tab that's on sale then

civic patrol
#

hey guys cant find the info so which level are the 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 armies battles ?

devout osprey
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5 is t16ish so 83

placid grotto
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IIRC 68/73/78/83. Can't recall where I read it

low kindle
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5way is 84

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4way is 79

tough vigil
#

What build can clear monolith easily and is also very budget?

teal axle
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ed contagion

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cyclone

tough vigil
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I wanna do ED but i am not sure what to get for the build

teal axle
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there are tons of guides my friend

tough vigil
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Also trickster vs occultist

teal axle
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go read around

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educate yourself

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and pick one

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if you're just going to farm low level monoliths you could do it on a juggernaut if you had gear

wet plaza
#

neither, pathfinder for speed

tough vigil
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Really?

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Wait wouldn't pathfinder be the MF variant? Because i don't have the currency to get the gear needed for it

patent canyon
#

does ascendency give quant? 🙃

tough vigil
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-_- generally MF want speed is what i was saying

patent canyon
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so if you dont go mf you just self curse yourself with t.chains to go slower and not interfere with mf speeds? 🙃

tough vigil
#

So condescending damn

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Fine nevermind i will find answers elsewhere

wet plaza
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you want speed for glacier/low lvl farming

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you also want the 50% inc aoe from pf

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dmg is fine on its own

tough vigil
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Thanks

wet plaza
tough vigil
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Do you happens to know of a guide somewhere because i am nowhere close to go on my own building something in that gigantic tree

teal axle
#

just take the trickster tree

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and copy it

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and shift points to use it as a pathfinder

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or just play a trickster

tough vigil
#

I mean trickster and pathfinder starting point is close anyways can't be too hard to do that without messing up right?

wet plaza
#

not really especially since you just path to all nodes with the chaos multiplier and life

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if you dont want acro you can path straight up to shadow

tough vigil
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Alright, i will try that. I leveled two characters and was getting bored so i wanted something to farm monolith effectively and that didn't require too much currency i will switch to MF when i do have the currency

wet plaza
#

if you dont want the second curse path into templar for more aoe

next epoch
#

"bad pointer in LegionBreakout" 😡

balmy dew
#

Tbh I find that I make more per hour with a max movespeed build over a max iiq build

spare crane
#

so im sure this has been asked before, but does anyone have any suggestions for non-HH 5-way legion builds?

midnight phoenix
#

Yeah play the HH builds without the HH

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The reason HH builds are HH builds is purely because they already clear really quickly

spare crane
#

ive been playing a TS deadeye and i definitely wouldnt have enough damage for a 5-way

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even with mostly 21/20 gems and big damage abyss jewels

velvet palm
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MF?

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Cause without HH those builds don't come close to decent dps

vestal escarp
#

Is it just me or are generals stupidly tanky

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along with having ungodly damage output

silver kettle
#

they're very tanky yes

#

tbh I find their damage less threatening than rare legion mobs

proven wadi
#

yeah they dont do that much damage and they telegraph the hell out of everything

placid grotto
#

Yeah generals have 5-10x the health of the map boss in my experience

remote oar
#

in the case of a t15, it would be has high hp as guardians, i guess its a bit less...

proven wadi
#

do they still have that much health when frozen?

placid grotto
#

I think frozen health is generally less than unfrozen but I don't think I've done a comparison

tranquil herald
#

anyone have a place to contact the mods on poe? i just got disconnected with like 30 seconds left in a 3 way timeless conflict, and lost everything, had 4 portals left when d/c happened

copper kernel
#

you wont get a refund

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at best you can contact support via email

tranquil herald
#

would you suggest it? or is it already noted as a glitch/bug to be worked on

#

happened to a friend this morning and me just now

velvet palm
#

It's actually a very common issue that's been happening throughout the whole league

topaz trout
#

i just got dc'd

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anyone else?

#

i just finished a 5way emblem run and immediately dc'd and now cant get back in. says cant connect to patching server

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i dont think its an issue with the emblem run. if it was we would be able to get right back in

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and i cant

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hello?

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ok y is no one responding

copper kernel
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because either nobody is reading it, nobody cares or nobody has anything to say

velvet palm
#

Literally read the comments above yours

topaz trout
#

i read the comments above mine my question was was it still happening to anyone because those comments were from earlier

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because if its an issue with the game then others would be dc'd right now. i need to know if its still a game issue or an issue on my end......

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ok i got in but i cant ;leave oriath

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every time i try i dc on load screen

topaz trout
#

guess they didnt want me in voice

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or its full lol

rapid wharf
#

Is farming 3 way profitable? The set cost is roughly the same as shaper set and will surely drop more currency on average, and I want to lv up to 95 too

copper kernel
#

isnt 3way around lvl 74

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not very xp dense

rapid wharf
#

Still have tons of mobs

#

Elder maps may be better exp wise but I want to earn some currency too

copper kernel
#

maps are generally profitable too

#

i doubt 3way will be anything exciting in terms of money

#

but it also depends on what youre farming with

rapid wharf
#

Hmm probably, even 5 way is a little underwhemling in terms of loots

#

When I got carries

coarse tapir
#

Try to find a few reddit posts about 2 or 3 ways, I read that theyre a lot better than 5 ways for currency

rapid wharf
#

just one guy posting 72 2-way runs

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hope it wont raise the emblem prices

eager terrace
#

when I ran like 40 2-ways the other day to finish my challenges

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it seemed like it wasn't bad for currency

#

but emblem prices are high enough that I don't think it was profitable still

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even with a couple exalt drops

minor void
#

what do you guy link with smite gem 😄

coarse tapir
pure hound
#

Think 5 ways got stealth nerfed?

placid grotto
#

Has anyone else noticed large amounts of ES-bypassing damage with non-Vaal Legion? I think I've seen it with a couple of hits but definitely that rare mod that creates a fireball that follows you. It'll do 2k damage but leave my 1k ES alone

proven wadi
#

Do you have any timeless keystones

placid grotto
#

Nope. Nothing

#

Only uniques are QotF, Bisco's Collar

silver kettle
#

Are you a Trickster?

placid grotto
#

Everything else is a standard rare

#

Yeah

silver kettle
#

Could it just be the ES recovery when hit instantly putting your ES back to full?

placid grotto
#

Hmm maybe. I'll see if I can stream it and church if I lose one

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But wow that means I'm getting hit for 3k damage in a T2

silver kettle
#

Legion rares don't fuck around

placid grotto
#

That would make sense, though. Recovery is instant so I wouldn't notice the dip

violet nymph
#

I'm brazilian, would you have any br here?

barren spade
#

any suggestions on what conflicts to do? (combining the timeless splinter to make tha "maps")

languid path
#

do a 4 way to unlock 5th map device slot

vestal escarp
#

how do emblem battles work anyway

#

same as monoliths, where you have to kill enemies under timer to unlock them?

silver kettle
#

no. round area with big monolith in the centre. unlock enemies just by standing next to the monolith for a couple of seconds. every time you do that it also respawns the bosses (though they have to be dead for 30 sec before you can respawn them)

vestal escarp
#

so do you just keep going until all the enemies are dead, then

silver kettle
#

oh there's still a timer

#

ranges from I think 2:30 for a 2 way fight to about 5 for a 5 way fight

#

so you keep respawning stuff and killing it until the timer runs out

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then big lootsplosion

vestal escarp
#

based on how much stuff you killed, right

silver kettle
#

yeah

vestal escarp
#

mk

#

honestly this league seems great for arc totems

#

vs cyclone

silver kettle
#

symbol enemies spawn like a normal monolith and there's a tracker for what you've killed at the bottom

vestal escarp
#

yeah, cyclone is cheap and good

silver kettle
#

the bosses have symbols plus can drop jewels

vestal escarp
#

but still

#

hmm, interesting

#

do enemies come to you

#

or do you have to go to them

silver kettle
#

you pretty much have to go to them

vestal escarp
#

k

silver kettle
#

especially the bosses

#

they spawn at fixed points around the edge of the arena

vestal escarp
#

ye, diagonals

#

mk

#

I might try some two-way battles I suppose

drowsy shoal
#

Is there a way to know a boss has spawned during a Timeless Monolith encounter other than the obvious of searching within the time-limit

marsh minnow
#

there is a visual and an audio cue now

drowsy shoal
#

Which patch was that added in?

silver kettle
#

3.7.3 @drowsy shoal

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About a month ago

drowsy shoal
#

Sweet. Thanks, guess I'll just have to see what the visual cue looks like. Can't find it in the web.

silver kettle
#

It's a large crackle of purple energy that forms an arrow pointing in the direction of the general

#

The slightly awkward thing is that it takes 2 or 3 seconds after the timer starts to become really visible

violet nymph
#

can flasks stack?

#

like 2 quicksilvers

midnight phoenix
#

No

fervent thunder
#

touch monolith yes

#

rail the backline of each faction first yes

frigid breach
#

Flasks don't stack nor do similar prefixes/suffixes on them like having increased armour during flask effect on 2 flasks. It'll take the highest rolled one and ignore the others.

loud sonnet
#

Do any of you guys randomly crash during 5 ways? I crash in the middle and idk how to fix it.

velvet palm
#

Yes, very common issue, been one throughout the whole league

loud sonnet
#

No way to fix it?

#

Feels really bad, the maraketh emblem is expensive :(

balmy dew
#

Probably need a better Pc or lower graphics

loud sonnet
#

Hmmm i dont think it's a pc issue though i just built mine a couple months ago on i5-9400f and rtx2060, 16gb ram, nvme ssd

haughty estuary
#

try changing the global illumination option

#

try different networking type

somber fox
#

I see a lot doing 5w curries but why don't they host it themselves then sell portals it would be a

#

lot more efficient

proven wadi
#

Would it really

#

Easier to find someone who's already got their 5way and is looking for a carry than to find like 6 people that all want a carry at the same time, I would think

wet plaza
#

also less ways to get scammed as carry

balmy dew
#

Carrys make most of their money from leveling enlightens and empowers from what I've heard

worthy basalt
#

Well yeah most dont even ask for tips at this point

leaden storm
#

or they're completing challenges

#

for free

#

with your stones

native osprey
#

gasp how dare they

#

I saw a carry the other day that was paying to do carries

worthy basalt
#

still better to sell your stones from what I have seen

unreal wadi
#

y'all use blood or sand mode during monolith

gentle ermine
#

Relative to if you have enought damage in Sand mode...

violet nymph
#

sand

placid grotto
#

Sand. Damage mitigation is harder than DPS to get

fossil vortex
#

LUL u need like 2080TI graphics card to do 5way legion?

wet plaza
#

not even that will save you

#

better get titan rtx quad sli

topaz trout
#

i have a 1050ti currently and i do 5 ways no problem

balmy dew
#

Isn't it more cpu intensive?

patent canyon
#

not if you go for global illumination and stuff 😉

lusty sparrow
#

can soeone please give me some advice for legion encounters V?

#

im cyclone. i have only the maraketh left to do and i have no idea how to move faster

#

i couldve SWORN i got all of them but i didnt

#

im currently doing UGR

silver kettle
#

I found carcass the best @lusty sparrow . a lot of positions cause literally 20 mobs to spawn because it's so narrow

lusty sparrow
#

i got it ty @silver kettle just had to find the right placement in UGR

stone sand
#

Any minimum requirement for trying 5 ways legion? minimum shaper damage, eHP...
I want try to see how good I am in it or the league is only " repawn creep" only for anyone who dont have HH.

midnight phoenix
#

If u can comfortably clear legion generals in t16s then ur fine for 5 ways

stone sand
#

never did that before 😦

#

seem like i going to risk 2ex .

#

Should I aim for the general or just spawn "treasure "creep? I mean which should be my priority ? see some guy inorge the generals and keep respawn

old egret
#

you dont wanna focus on generals if it takes you longer then 5-6 seconds to kill them

#

not sure about non-HH builds, but they tend to alternate them, as they kill em so quick that you are only getting 2-3 of them respawning at a time. They have a cooldown after killed before they'll respawn, even if someone is constantly resetting

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so the normal way a HH carry does it.. is one rotation around, ignoring generals and building up stacks, then they start killing them since it only takes 1 second. id imagine for non-HH, you'll get more loot only doing a few per rotation.

stone sand
#

and what killing the general give us?

languid path
#

lots of extra splinter

stone sand
#

for sustain another 5ways one ?:D

#

so may me I should aim maraketh general only

midnight phoenix
#

Also a chance at a jewel

#

They only drop from generals

stone sand
#

thank you guys, those info will save me a lot of ex 😄

tardy oasis
#

how do you get the 5 slot map device?

copper kernel
#

Do a 4 way battle

waxen grove
#

oof, just did my first Legion battle, 2-way, got like 2 rows of loot icons, seemed pretty terrible for loot? ED+Contagion, hopped out and did ED+Contagion, wait a few seconds then reset

#

my gear is trash, that probably doesn't help 😛

#

I know the legion jewels only drop from the Generals, is that also true for the other legion uniques?

eager terrace
#

yeah I think those are also general drops

white flare
#

I run a cyclone build for this reason, i use my ed cont for general drops and cyclone to focus the generals

#

2 different toons, use a different one for whatever i feel like farming

waxen grove
#

ok cool, thanks Wallach and LSunder

#

for your cyclone char you:
kill generals -> reset -> repeat?

kindred obsidian
#

I prefer summoner for legion generals, it just works so well and melts them so fast

#

but I'm also on HC

slender temple
#

Totems good too

#

My cyclone juggg uses chest links for warchief

#

Vaal warchief is op

#

When I don't want to play chicken with lag I just spam warchiefs and run around

gritty ember
#

@worn sedge This isnt really a showcase channel and your video doesn't explain anything. Since you have posted nothing that would spur a discussion im afraid this violates rule 3

swift berry
#

starforge slayer cyclone gave me around 3 rows and only 1 timeless in 5 way no HH took time to kill generals maybe did 4-5 resets and general kills before timer went off.

final geode
#

Anyone in need of free 5 emblem boost? I have 350ex + gear and I only want xp (can even help with pricechecking etc)

wet plaza
#

@final geode might have more luck in #trading

blazing aspen
#

maybe here is were i ask this question!

#

i need scorpion sentinal to finish one of my achievments

#

what map should i rinse and repeat

hushed sequoia
#

How much to tip for a 4-5 emblem carry?

spice cipher
hushed sequoia
#

Tyvm

livid lake
#

@EQUALIZER#7682 yeah no

limpid orbit
#

Just a bit confused by this: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2621946 In particular this quote

"In Legion we experimented with end game content that could be played endlessly."

Can a run of the Domain of Timeless Conflict alone really provide enough materials to start another one? If yes, is a Headhunter required to do so?

I am just curious, nowhere near the required gear level apparently.

fallen tulip
#

im guessing what they mean is it's end-game content with endless replayability

#

not self-sustaining

slender temple
#

Self sustaining haha geez that would be interesting . Would make very league timeless domain league until they nerf it

hushed sequoia
#

2-3 ways emblem worth it at all? Or just better to do 4-5?

velvet palm
#

2-3 is more worthhwhile loot wise than 5 ways

#

Comparing the cost to the profit at least

somber fox
#

We need more 5 ways emblems hosting parties that sell portals

#

actualyl there are barely 3 players doing it and almost never online

#

We could sometimes see 10 players offering 5w carry services forever

#

but from the customer point of view a lot including me

#

prefer to pay 7 8 exalted for full rotation

#

and not 3 exalted for one single run

keen nimbus
#

can someone point me to the timesless jewel archvie discord? got some juicy one to post

stuck fjord
#

I never even got to do this leagues machanic

#

Lol

barren crescent
#

you got 2 weeks ms. skeltal

tidal ruin
#

😔

worthy basalt
#

worldly scaffold
#

eternal confirmed 100%

native osprey
#

Trade improvements Pog

fast spoke
#

may as well say that guild improvements are coming too

#

while we're on the topic of "shit that's not coming"

native osprey
#

I don't have any pictures of that

fast spoke
#

Yeah neither does GGG

#

Hah

fierce torrent
#

Lol the old currency tab

fossil shore
#

so is the league name really eternal or are you guys just trolling

#

didnt catch any leak

copper kernel
dreamy spoke
#

might be in the 3.7.5 files or something

patent canyon
#

blight

#

occultist revived confirmed

dusty cove
#

f5 f5 f5 f5

patent canyon
#

tower defence league templarLul

dusty cove
#

"GGG said they woudnt do any mini game leagues before 4.0" lululul

ashen bear
#

SIte's dead for me 😭

dusty cove
#

oooh league of op rings

buoyant roost
#

Holy crap this is exciting looking POGGERS

timid beacon
#

tower defense time baby

buoyant roost
#

woah allocating passives as enchantments?

dull epoch
#

so many possibilities now

dusty cove
#

that +3 gem lvl dagger

buoyant roost
#

additional keybindings templarthumbsup

pine horizon
#

yessss master stacking! pog

cedar pewter
#

What is "+3 to level of ALL physical spell skill gems"?

#

Does that mean your chest is getting +3 blade vortex?

native osprey
kindred dagger
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Twer defense POE fun concept, we can only wait now to see what it will be

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Seems everypatch now they tro to improve QOL of the game which is good

patent canyon
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not that thing again....

cedar pewter
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Oh wow, I'm probably buying that sentinel pack

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That looks so nice

kindred dagger
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I dont think they'll add synthesised again its probably more some "skins" area or mob just

cedar pewter
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also "we have added an additional bar of skill bindings. "

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hype 😄

lime ferry
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mm

patent canyon
lime ferry
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league mechanic leaves me skeptical

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reveal trailer also makes putting town towers look clunky as shit

patent canyon
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99% you wont need them

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just destroy whole screen yourself

heady wolf
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At first glance it seemed quite slow paced actually

patent canyon
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in T2 map 😄

tiny flint
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the new echants dont stack with lab right?

lime ferry
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inb4 ggg adds massive damage resistance to non tower damage

spice oxide
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I feel like it's going to be a league mechanic that's compeltely skipped by 'meta' skills.

lime ferry
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sounds like something they'd pull

vivid stream
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It's funny how blight is like poe meets dungeon defender. I like it!

patent canyon
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" made deeper depths easier to access in Delve, "

spice oxide
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It just seems like if the towers aren't like busted af for damage, it's pointless.

patent canyon
spice oxide
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If you already one shot most white mobs and 2 tap some blue packs, what does the tower do?

kindred dagger
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I think you'll need the tower at some point, some probably causeof the element they give willa ffect monster at least maybe some cold to slow them

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on huge encounter blight, that could help, we'll see

heady wolf
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I imagine blight monsters will be many times more hp, compared to normal monsters

patent canyon
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"suite of five potent new poison-themed Skill Gems,"

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nice

vivid stream
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Or maybe take less dmg from players and not towers

spice oxide
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I mean, sure, but it seems the encounter will either take too long and not be worth it, or be completely forced, like league.

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*legion

kindred dagger
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necro finaly got some buff

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especialy for a league like that it can probably be a huge class with your mobs tanking nd clearing all spawning mob of the TD

vivid stream
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"Blight monsters are unusually tough"

spice oxide
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Correct, I understand that.

vivid stream
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In the commentary

spice oxide
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But, it just seems that you'd just ignore them if the encounter is too long.

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Idk, maybe I'm takign this from the wrong perspective, but I am someone who dislikes totem playstyles.

turbid quartz
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inb4 summoners or toxic rain becomes next worb/cyclone.

spice oxide
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And this seems like forced playstyles. That's all.

patent canyon
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summoners wont

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its playstyle a lot hate

valid grotto
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Looks like ED/Cont start for me again

turbid quartz
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we'll see. templarLul

spice oxide
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I mean, people also hate totems.

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And now the entire league is totems.

autumn drift
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its kinda like legion right? mobs spawn and then u loot the box

stable dragon
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Is this the League of Focus? Never used the skill due to my skillbar being full

spice oxide
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Granted, it's not the EXACT same. But, totems that you upgrade.

patent canyon
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yeah you can use focus now

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for the first time ever

valid grotto
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Not a fan of totems either

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Or pet builds

spice oxide
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Like, I feel like there are so many other ways to defend stuff that we have in the game.

kindred dagger
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whats focus ? i never get how to use this, are you talking about the mod for veil items ?

lucid stone
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Wooooah

patent canyon
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yh that one

lucid stone
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Nodes on gear?

spice oxide
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Forcing the player to use towers doesn't seem fun.

autumn drift
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its kinda like legion right? mobs spawn and then u loot the box

patent canyon
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you are not forced

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get enough damage yourself

stable dragon
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You get the Focus skill automatically as soon as you equip an item that says "Focus" on it. This is never explained.

glad narwhal
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which notable is the best/rariest?

patent canyon
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?

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yes

kindred dagger
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Maybe you wont be "forced"é like for exemple i think at some point when you are strong you can probably dont use all or maybe nay tower to clear mob, but that will help at start i guess and probably at later stage to have more optimal clear on huge huge blight encounter.

i think they might be more helping stuff than mendatory

autumn drift
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some can answer please

haughty siren
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Yes but no

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the loot boxes are the only thing similar and that you have to activate the mechanic

spice cipher
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This league sounds fucking amazing imo, can’t wait!

lucid stone
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OH MY GAWD MINES

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MIIIINES

fast spoke
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lol

lucid stone
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MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINES

fast spoke
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big mine nerf

lucid stone
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Shut up I haven't read through it all yet </3

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Nooooo

fast spoke
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sorry I mean mechanics change

spice cipher
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Everything i wanted to play since I started is being buffed now!

autumn drift
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i still dont get it .. u activate the thing and then minions attacks u kill them and u get loot box right? is that it?

fast spoke
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yes

barren crescent
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Blight is channeled chaos dot skill that stacks up to 20 times, here is all the info you sought after

fast spoke
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you get it

lucid stone
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Mines are now traps? 0.o

fast spoke
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Yes

spice cipher
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The new poison skill chain proj thingy sounds cool af

lucid stone
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Then what are traps

fast spoke
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mines are traps and look like they probably don't shotgun bosses the same

turbid quartz
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yes more or less

barren crescent
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Mines don't blow up at same time

lucid stone
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My Tremor Rod is tingly.

barren crescent
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they got forced sequence now

lucid stone
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Skitterbots?

barren crescent
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Autominer summoner templarLul

lucid stone
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Huh, looks like they increased mine count like they did with traps.

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At least 16 out at a time.

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Wait, so does Cold Iron Point give a level bonus to gems not socketed in it

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That's a global level increase?!

fast spoke
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global yes

spice cipher
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Poison is gonna fun to play with it looks like

atomic arrow
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+6 levels to all physical gems is going to be crazy

lucid stone
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What

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I'm scared

fast spoke
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eh

lucid stone
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Will I still like mines? </3

fast spoke
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It restricts them to only phys damage

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Which typically isn't great

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you also lose your weapon slots

lucid stone
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Those look like totem boots.

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Mine Totems?

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Mine skills now also reward you for detonating long sequences

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Mine skills now also reward you for detonating long sequences

fast spoke
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yeah

livid lake
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free ex?

fast spoke
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I'm reading that as a nerf to mines personally

lucid stone
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This is what I've been waiting for. owo

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I wonder if there's also one for leaving them on the ground longer.

fast spoke
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I can't see them increasing the boss viability for mines

vivid pier
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wait +6 levels to all physical gems is going to be crazy whats this for haha?

fast spoke
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blade vortex/bladefall or something

lucid stone
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I guess this is to bring phys spell in line with impale and convert

fast spoke
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I can't see it being used really though

lucid stone
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There might be new phys spells tho

barren crescent
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can't deal elem dmg

fast spoke
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True

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^

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That's the big part

barren crescent
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poison bois

fast spoke
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Mm true

barren crescent
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poison BV templarLul

fast spoke
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poison bv

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yeah

barren crescent
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assASSin will return

lucid stone
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I hope skitterbots aren't terrible.

fast spoke
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I'd still probably rather have a fossil crafted poison dagger or something

lucid stone
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Am...am I going to be a summoner miner

fast spoke
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We'll see though

lucid stone
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Wait where's the raider changes?

fast spoke
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Not listed here yet

barren crescent
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nah

fast spoke
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They'll be in a changes post

barren crescent
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prolly next league

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with ranged rework

fast spoke
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raider's getting changes this league

patent canyon
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they are buffing daresos defiance?

barren crescent
lucid stone
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I can get instant mines on an amulet. owo

fast spoke
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sounds more like chain hook upsidedown

vivid pier
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what's the +6 for in which slot?

fast spoke
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chest

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well

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any technicaly

faint bay
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source?

fast spoke
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but you'd wear the two weapons with +3s and 6L in your chest

median island
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Tower defense templarthumbsup

fast spoke
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lol

barren crescent
gloomy fractal
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poison is back i guess yo tank

fast spoke
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Seems that way but I'm hesitant to celebrate

lucid stone
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Show me the sabo

barren crescent
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but elem conversion minions 👀

lucid stone
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Please be gentle ggg

barren crescent
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I wonder what will break

fast spoke
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idk how I feel about the conversion gloves

lucid stone
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Also, reworked 24 uniques? Steppan Eard~?

barren crescent
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something will

fast spoke
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??

lucid stone
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Conversion used to be hard to get for minions

fast spoke
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Rework steppan?

lucid stone
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No, hoping for one

fast spoke
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Why

barren crescent
lucid stone
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Because I like ground effects

fast spoke
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they're good boots

lucid stone
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They should work with friendly ground effects.

gloomy fractal
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notable passives in items wow amazing

lucid stone
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Synthesis still gone

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Maybe next league

fast spoke
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maybe never

lucid stone
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Are you able to annoint an item multiple times to reroll the notable?

patent canyon
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didnt show as currupted so prob yeah

lucid stone
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Oh, it only works on rings and amulets.

fast spoke
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and 4 uniques

lucid stone
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So free 3 notables without having to path to them.

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And then the unique set is annointable armour?

patent canyon
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yeah but its 99% useless notables for you

fast spoke
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It does look kind of like you'll be able to see which notable is being applied before you set it

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but that's a bit less certain

patent canyon
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and good ones are rare af priced for 20ex

fast spoke
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and I'd be a bit surprised

lucid stone
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I'm guessing that it's gonna be like synthesis

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Where they expect people to figure out what the notables are from the oils used.

sly tusk
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+1 curse will easily be a bajillion ex

fast spoke
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?

lucid stone
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But this time they're gonna try to guard it from datamining.

fast spoke
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Isn't +1 curse a keystone..

lucid stone
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Is Whispers of Doom the best notable on the tree?

wispy crest
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How important is it for 2k HP build to not get hit by a single od those green balls on izaro fight ? Can I take 1 hit ?

lucid stone
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Which izaro

fast spoke
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whale oil be fucked

wispy crest
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Uber

lucid stone
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Yes, you will die.

fast spoke
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whispers of doom is indeed a notable

sly tusk
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Ye

fast spoke
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That makes sense

weak elm
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What’s whisper of doom do

wispy crest
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Heartseeker THO

fast spoke
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+1 curse

lucid stone
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The ele pen and es leech ones might be worth a bit

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Heart of Flame

fast spoke
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There are some good notables

dusty cove
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How high can bladefall be pushed with those daggers?

fast spoke
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eh

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depends but max possible would be uh

lucid stone
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Oh, when did they add int to the wand wheel?

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I'm thinking the main notables people would go for are '+1 curse' and anything instant

tiny flint
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There are now 13 secret passives that have been added which you can unlock in the skill tree only from oil combinations.

lucid stone
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Like mines or warcry

dusty cove
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21 + 6 +4 +4 ?

tiny flint
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SECRET PASSIVES! oh its legion jewels

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all over again

fast spoke
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21 gem, +4 chest, empower 4 (+3), +1 socketed supports (elder chest), +6 from 2 weapons?

lucid stone
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There are secret passives?

weak elm
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So we pick a reward from a tower, defend as many pathways as possible and collect loot at the end?

wispy crest
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Wait wherw did u find that @tiny flint

fast spoke
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so it'd be 21 +4+4+6 = level 35

tiny flint
lucid stone
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I wonder how good IC will be here.

wispy crest
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Hory shet

gloomy fractal
#

all i want was a simple league like prophecy damn

lucid stone
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Literal tower defense

barren crescent
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slow build league templarthumbsup

fast spoke
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eh it's a simple league if you just skip the blight

sly tusk
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It's gonna be +1 curse, leech of any type and life notables that people will want. Many of the other notables also have decent enough passive leading up to them

weak elm
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Well it is simple, just pick a reward and Cyclone on top of the tower with the best reward

fast spoke
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slow build league mechanic*

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most likely we'll make more by skipping the mechanic though if it puts you in place for very long

weak elm
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They added more boss encounters back into the base game!!!

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Cyclone Neb Jugg carry back on the menu for currency

copper torrent
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Oh boy, the oils have a stack size of 10, and from past experience i cant imagine that GGG are changing any of the special stash tabs to include them..

barren crescent
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but so much clutter rares for those + tower stats

stable dragon
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The screen is INSANELY cluttered for the tower defense part. What are they going to do to prevent this from becoming Synthesis 2.0 in terms of screen clutter and horrible UX?

quiet geyser
#

So spiritual aid as enchant now?

sly tusk
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Sure, but they have a stack size of 5000 in the currency tab @copper torrent

wispy crest
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@stable dragon just dont build towers lol

weak elm
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Wait, it doesn’t say anything about Lab enchant fixes?

fast spoke
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Yeah spiritual aid as an affix is going to be pretty nuts

lucid stone
weak elm
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But we can have more skills on our bars now

lucid stone
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Totem shoes?

wispy crest
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Hek ya

lucid stone
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Sole Mantle

autumn drift
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🤣

barren crescent
fast spoke
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They'll talk more about other game changes in further news posts @weak elm

stable dragon
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@wispy crest The buttons are literally IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN while trying to fight monsters. I don't thkin that's going to work.

autumn drift
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another TS league

fast spoke
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every league will be a ts league

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until ts is changed

barren crescent
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Stupid tower, you are now built

gloomy fractal
#

ill do ez 36 challenge and quit i suppose

autumn drift
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lets see they might do it this league

copper torrent
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@sly tusk Yeah, in the extra slots, but i think i read something about 13 differnt oils, and considering other currencies that still dont have their dedicated slot..

lucid stone
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Carrion Golem does bone roil?

fast spoke
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don't worry though, you won't see 3-5 of those oils

lucid stone
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I think he's kinda cute. <3