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copper kernel Jun 23, 2019, 11:27 PM

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its a 79 lvl zone

waxen spire Jun 23, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Oh that isn't too bad

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I'll probably wait until I finish the build first

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get a 5l/rest of the int needed

light hatch Jun 23, 2019, 11:33 PM

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@copper kernel to put in a seed and see the results

violet nymph Jun 24, 2019, 3:24 AM

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@light hatch no

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Likely wont be during the league

tiny flint Jun 24, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Does worb interact with indigon?

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Like does it gain stacks of the damage bonus during channeling?

stiff geyser Jun 24, 2019, 7:20 AM

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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but is it smart to use or save the incubators?

violet nymph Jun 24, 2019, 7:20 AM

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Depends on what you want them for

stiff geyser Jun 24, 2019, 7:20 AM

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what if I dont know 😛

violet nymph Jun 24, 2019, 7:20 AM

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I would use them

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But idk why you would save them, maybe to sell them? Idk

stiff geyser Jun 24, 2019, 7:21 AM

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but will I get better items when using them end game?

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or is it totally random?

violet nymph Jun 24, 2019, 7:21 AM

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Rng

stiff geyser Jun 24, 2019, 7:21 AM

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Thanks! 😃

warped pollen Jun 24, 2019, 7:44 AM

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@ZushisAnneFrank I'd like to exchange my T15: (Acid Caverns) for your T15: (Summit) in Legion.

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What depth can you find Abyssal Chambers for the 6 socket craft recipe?

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lul wrong paste

versed dock Jun 24, 2019, 7:55 AM

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@violet nymph if i were you i would use them

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And I feel like it's just to use them when you get them, doesn't seem like it increases a lot if you use them earlier or later

low kindle Jun 24, 2019, 9:01 AM

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so do you need to actually "leech" in order for Kaom keystone to apply?

versed oracle Jun 24, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Does anyone plays Spiderman here and have trouble breaking the legions?

marsh minnow Jun 24, 2019, 2:00 PM

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..spiderman?

sharp wind Jun 24, 2019, 2:06 PM

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I assume he means that dagger that gives spider minions.

marsh minnow Jun 24, 2019, 2:08 PM

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i thought maybe chain hook

sharp wind Jun 24, 2019, 2:27 PM

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maybe

proven wadi Jun 24, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Chain hook seems more likely

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I know I'm having trouble with legions with my dumb flicker build

native osprey Jun 24, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Create a pvp Scion and get jewel slots to test your Timeless Jewels

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keen shale Jun 24, 2019, 8:50 PM

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so Lethal Pride, can I stick that in any the main Slayer Jewel socket and I should be good regardless? are they all really different?

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trying to figure out if its worth dropping 25c on one even though im not sure what it does exactly

leaden storm Jun 24, 2019, 8:55 PM

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@native osprey do you get challenge credit for allocated influenced nodes on a pvp char?

native osprey Jun 24, 2019, 8:55 PM

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I don't know

leaden storm Jun 24, 2019, 8:56 PM

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i need to borrow some from guild then i guess

pseudo kernel Jun 24, 2019, 9:35 PM

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What does the icon look like for legion encounters that drop 6 linked items?

copper kernel Jun 24, 2019, 9:36 PM

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nothing special afaik

pseudo kernel Jun 24, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Well, i wanna know so i can target them specifically if i see them

orchid hazel Jun 24, 2019, 9:44 PM

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there a way to find out what my jewel is good for

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aside from using a scion

silver kettle Jun 24, 2019, 9:47 PM

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@pseudo kernel they just drop from weapon/armour icons

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Obviously a rare result of them

pseudo kernel Jun 24, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I see, thank you! Hella nice drop then.

zealous sleet Jun 24, 2019, 10:46 PM

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does divining militant faith jewel change the 2 mods on the jewel? not the seed/name but things like aura effect and shit

placid grotto Jun 24, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Anyone else feel like Maraketh encounters and Generals have an impact on Latency times at map entrance? Each time it's high enough to have Jun/Alva and they aren't there, I've had a Maraketh encounter or a General on one side

normal kraken Jun 24, 2019, 11:43 PM

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no @zealous sleet, only the seed/keystone can be rerolled

eager terrace Jun 25, 2019, 12:44 AM

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can the keystone be rerolled?

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I thought only the seed changed

lament dagger Jun 25, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Keystone can be rrrolled

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It will change the name on it If it does

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But like you might as well just buy the keystone

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That's the only thing that's reliable about the jewels

modest harness Jun 25, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Do you have to be the person opening the map for the 4way fight to unlock the 5map device?

copper kernel Jun 25, 2019, 2:59 AM

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no

modest harness Jun 25, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Okty

gilded wolf Jun 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Hi there, I have heard that legion was gonna end in 2 weeks, I wanted to know if that was true and if it is, if there was a reason for such a short league :O
Thanks guys

copper kernel Jun 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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leagues dont end prematurely

gilded wolf Jun 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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so it was fake news?

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(a couple of people were spreading such info on standard global earlier)

copper kernel Jun 25, 2019, 4:29 AM

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anything global says is a lie

gilded wolf Jun 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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you never know :p

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good new tho

copper kernel Jun 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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oh im sure youre better off if you just auto assume anything global says is false

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even not being in a global chat is good

gilded wolf Jun 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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I came there because I had some issue with my "empty only" map stashes in the first place

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(they wont disapear)

copper kernel Jun 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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did you relog

gilded wolf Jun 25, 2019, 4:31 AM

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but well that's not really legion related, might not flood this topic with that

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5 times :p

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imma go check it now

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perhaps downtime fixed it

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it didn't

runic basin Jun 25, 2019, 5:54 AM

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So, what's the strongest build in the game now? Asfacks cyclone build? Or something else?

low kindle Jun 25, 2019, 7:02 AM

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ahfack cyclone never was a strongest build lol

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also what do you define as strong

prisma heart Jun 25, 2019, 7:16 AM

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in the legion 4-5 way battle, how do you reset the battle

eager terrace Jun 25, 2019, 7:36 AM

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stand near the crystal in the center

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after about 2 seconds it respawns the entire room

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generals have a short cooldown before they can be respawned so if you just killed one you may not respawn it

red wharf Jun 25, 2019, 11:17 AM

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is there some bug that makes legion rares stun me, despite having Unwavering stance?

low kindle Jun 25, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Do they stun you and not freeze

red wharf Jun 25, 2019, 11:26 AM

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anti freeze flask was up

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it happened to me several times already, i think i clipped few

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happens when few yellow mobs jump on me

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not mana issue as well, since my leap and cyclone are mana free thanks to -mana costs

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ive found few threads on bug forum about unwavering stance not working, but other than that, no more info sadly

gilded spire Jun 25, 2019, 11:38 AM

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Freeze is the crypto of Cyclone 😃

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I have decided though I really hate leap slam.

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My mouse is always out of range at the wrong time

silver kettle Jun 25, 2019, 12:04 PM

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@gilded spire click leap slam on your skill bar, toggle always attack in place

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No more out of range mouse problems

undone meadow Jun 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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people, where can i find what the hell do these legion jewels do?

marsh minnow Jun 25, 2019, 12:45 PM

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every seed is a little different, but if there's a repository of them its probably on poedb somewhere

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 12:50 PM

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I haven't seen a repository

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I'm making a small one of my own for elegant hubrises while I hunt for one that suits my character but that's it

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(As a side note, if anyone has a bunch of those they wanna sell, I'm game :p)

eager charm Jun 25, 2019, 12:57 PM

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@undone meadow #guides-archive has an image

undone meadow Jun 25, 2019, 12:58 PM

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thanks

fiery panther Jun 25, 2019, 4:21 PM

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📎 unknown.png

runic basin Jun 25, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Can't get an answer elsewhere, so question is here:

Does any good, worthwhile build use Kraityn as bandit reward? I mean, I want the achievement, I've sided with Oak and Alira, but never with Kraityn. So if i wanna do that, I should probably find some decent build, yes? What would you guys recommend?

languid path Jun 25, 2019, 5:25 PM

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you can just change it with the vendor recipe later if all you want is the achievement

runic basin Jun 25, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Yeah, but do i get it that way? Are you sure? Also, it costs quite a bit, first to change it, and then change it back

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I was thinking, better to make an alt that uses kraityn

languid path Jun 25, 2019, 5:26 PM

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I meant as, do the quest as kraitlyn

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then change it back to whatever bandit you wanted originally

runic basin Jun 25, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Oh. But anyway, I would still like to know, is Kraityn crap or does anyone use it?

blissful onyx Jun 25, 2019, 5:28 PM

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idk what he even gives as a reward lol

runic basin Jun 25, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Attack speed and cast speed, something eelse too. some movement speed

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6 % inc cast and attack speed, 6 % inc movement speed, 3 % chance to dodge attacks

blissful onyx Jun 25, 2019, 5:30 PM

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All pretty mediocre

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Basically no reason to take him unless you're like, going for a max dodge/max move build for some reason

runic basin Jun 25, 2019, 5:30 PM

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So basically, the answer to my question is, yes, Kraityn is crap? 😃

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Hmm, if i wanted the achievement, i guess i could run to act 2 super fast, kill alira and oak. Far faster than farming for 20 orbs of regret

wet plaza Jun 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Everything besides alira is iffy if not trash tbh

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So most take points if not crit or alira if not super rich

proven wadi Jun 25, 2019, 6:02 PM

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They should buff the other bandits

valid bloom Jun 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Just take points

patent canyon Jun 25, 2019, 7:35 PM

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extra charge bandit when

violet nymph Jun 25, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Isnt that how it used to be before it was removed for being too powerful

leaden storm Jun 25, 2019, 8:02 PM

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idk about too powerful

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more like boring and barely impactful

violet nymph Jun 25, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Chance to gain charges on kill would be a more fun option for bandits

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Though everyone would just take 2 passives

leaden storm Jun 25, 2019, 8:05 PM

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on kill effects are boring too imo

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people already steamroll maps

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:11 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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I have wayyyy too much time on my hands

fast spoke Jun 25, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Commentaires -> Comments since you have everything else in English.
(Looks like probably a Franco if my own writing or thoughts sometimes are anything to sample)

Cool idea though, I started doing something similar for mine too.

proven wadi Jun 25, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Man those timeless jewels are the thing I'm most looking forwards to

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When I get far enough for them to drop

fast spoke Jun 25, 2019, 8:17 PM

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So far in my experience they're kind of neat but typically not worth building something around specifically. In most cases, just dropping a decent lethal pride or maraketh one in a high-notable spot is going to be great bang for your buck

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Though if you do find a really cool one, you can definitely build something neat around a few of the nodes in the right spots

teal axle Jun 25, 2019, 8:20 PM

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I was going to screw with a lethal pride but there's a chance it does add X% of phys as fire or something like that and completely fucks my ele equilibrium

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I'm using a timeless bleedx2+ frenzy on hit atm

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it's pretty nice

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frenzy on hit especially is amazing

proven wadi Jun 25, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Sounds like a flicker enabler

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:25 PM

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You'd need both I guess

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though my uh

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well it wasn't mine it was a guildmate's

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but it had like 2 nodes of frenzy on hit and 2 nodes of damage per frenzy

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the 35920

proven wadi Jun 25, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Wow

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:26 PM

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or like 1 node of frenzy on hit and 3 nodes of phys

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idk something like that

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lemme check

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okay it was

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frenzy on hit x1
damage per frenzy x1
melee phys x2
phys x1

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so like 240% melee phys, 10% frenzy on hit, 10% damage per frenzy

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definitely a flicker jewel x)

teal axle Jun 25, 2019, 8:28 PM

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thats pretty noice

proven wadi Jun 25, 2019, 8:28 PM

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That's great

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

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near perfect agony

proven wadi Jun 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

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I think an ideal flicker-without-effort gem would have 2 frenzy on hit nodes at least

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

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keystone is the charge sharing one so wouldn't recommend using the keystone haha

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Yeah or just go raider :p

proven wadi Jun 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Oh yeah that exists

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:29 PM

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But yeah you'd need two frenzy on hit for comfortable any weapon flicker

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I've also found one that's like 240% spell damage + damage per endu and that's between templar and maraudeur so I was like

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... totem?

safe fern Jun 25, 2019, 8:34 PM

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What determines the monster level in the Domain of Timeless Conflict?

fast spoke Jun 25, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Karui notable Gain 5% of Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage

I don't think I've actually seen this on any nodes I've looked at lol

knotty yew Jun 25, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I've seen it a lot

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i just don't really care 'cos I play pure bleed :p

fast spoke Jun 25, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I've had the damage taken as fire a lot

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not the gain as extra

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Regardless it's easy enough to just reroll it if it ends up with that on a node you actually allocate, @teal axle - I'd strongly suggest trying a few prides out since it's a very strong jewel

teal axle Jun 25, 2019, 8:37 PM

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yeah just expensive

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divining at least

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I'll get one eventually, like I mentioned in the other channel, belt first

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massive upgrade for me to get that belt

fast spoke Jun 25, 2019, 8:38 PM

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tbh just buying whatever the cheapest one on the market is and chucking it in your tree will likely be worth it

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but yeah belts are nice

teal axle Jun 25, 2019, 8:39 PM

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especially because Im mjolner lol

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its like 20% more damage

gilded spire Jun 25, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Does anyone pay attention to leveling after 90 lol. The XP loss is just lol.... Get close to 91 and seems i magically get 1 shot for no reason...

fast spoke Jun 25, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Yes, various people play the game differently than others

gilded spire Jun 25, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Question why is -mana cost a prefix? Shouldnt it be a suffix?

midnight phoenix Jun 25, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Why shouldn't it be a prefix?

languid path Jun 25, 2019, 11:59 PM

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or why should it be a suffix?

gilded spire Jun 26, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Just seems like it should be either way My steel ring popped a 2 exalted ring for 20 chaos 😃

rocky spade Jun 26, 2019, 1:04 AM

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should I wait till I have 4 emblems till I do the thing? And if I do, is it hard? Not really sure how the thing works

eager terrace Jun 26, 2019, 1:42 AM

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doing a 4 army is good to unlock your 5th map device slot

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depending on how geared you are yet the bosses in there might be a bit tanky but they aren't that scary incoming damage wise

analog atlas Jun 26, 2019, 10:33 AM

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what does this "thud-thud-thud" sounding attack does in Eternal Empire rares?

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I don't see its attack pattern due to all clutter on screen, but it absolutely destroys me

glad tusk Jun 26, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Shield bash thingy

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They smash their shield thrice and send out a shockwave each time

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Noticeable wind up and smacks you in the ass

elfin iron Jun 26, 2019, 11:49 AM

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does blood and sand affect cleave aoe?

proven wadi Jun 26, 2019, 1:33 PM

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If its an aoe and not a strike then yes

signal maple Jun 26, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Are splinters nerfed? Rares doesnt drop any

teal axle Jun 26, 2019, 2:20 PM

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they havent been, just your RNG friend

lament dagger Jun 26, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Inspired Learning at 22 Ex

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cool I guess

wet plaza Jun 26, 2019, 4:41 PM

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absolutely not worth it btw

prisma heart Jun 26, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Assuming a pretty good kill speed, what amount of legion emblems has the best returns per emblem used?

fallen tulip Jun 26, 2019, 4:58 PM

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I really really really want to enjoy poes build making but man

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I need to get good at making currency

prisma heart Jun 26, 2019, 4:59 PM

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What do you mean

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Which build

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Most are doable without too much currency

patent canyon Jun 26, 2019, 5:11 PM

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doable and fun sometimes dont intersect

proven wadi Jun 26, 2019, 5:44 PM

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There's a good amount of affordable builds that can go far

summer tinsel Jun 26, 2019, 5:57 PM

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guys, anyone has problems sustaining T2 glacier only monolith and out strategy? I have all t2 removed except glacier, t3 removed and leyline shaped. 137 atlas progression. full glacier drops not much more glacier returns, but a crapload of uncompleted connected t3. will it help if I drop some atlas progression?

tawdry badger Jun 26, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Do u sustain ever?

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Doing that strat

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I’ve had a guildie tell me that he can’t sustain even with all t2 t3 removed and upgrade shaped

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With a full atlas and a stronghold

wet plaza Jun 26, 2019, 6:04 PM

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just run the other connected t3s without running the bosses and you should easily get more glacier

summer tinsel Jun 26, 2019, 6:05 PM

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I think, maybe it will be better if I shape glacier to T7 and shape atlas around it

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cause the idea here to open map - do monolith - portal out

tawdry badger Jun 26, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I don’t think u can ever fully sustain a map doing that

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You just end up not killing enough things

summer tinsel Jun 26, 2019, 6:07 PM

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yeah, I've thought about it

covert ibex Jun 26, 2019, 6:53 PM

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You're killing like 200 mobs max lol how can you expect to sustain

blissful sundial Jun 26, 2019, 10:11 PM

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where do u get the IQ necessary to weigh these legion jewels?

patent canyon Jun 26, 2019, 10:13 PM

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sion pvp only

blissful sundial Jun 26, 2019, 10:16 PM

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o. spicy

placid grotto Jun 26, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Way I've found to sustain: Do Alva and Jun when they appear and sell shards/currency

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📎 Glacier_Encounter_Latency_3-Sigma__Average_1.png

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Not 100% accurate, but that'll give you an idea

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For shards, I sell in bulk for 5c chunks and it works well

quiet geyser Jun 26, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Does anybody know, if the "on kill effects" also mean more vaal souls?

white flare Jun 26, 2019, 11:07 PM

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++

stone belfry Jun 27, 2019, 12:20 AM

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question

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is pathfinder prolif gonna work after new patch

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on frozen legion mobs

pallid quartz Jun 27, 2019, 12:58 AM

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@tawdry badger I sustain easy I went from 10 maps to 40 I only alch and go, only clear the first area

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It was a little hard to get the sustain going had to buy ten maps after I ran out from my original 5 maps lol, but so far it's good I think I gained thouse thirty over 200-300 maps

lament dagger Jun 27, 2019, 1:40 AM

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When they say on kill effects fixed for legion?

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Does that mean bleed explosion in frozen mobs?

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Or its just stuff like Rampage/Blood Rage stuff

kindred dagger Jun 27, 2019, 2:13 AM

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next patch will be nice mostly bug fix but 2 new really really great adds. time freezed mob in legion will now have a proper kill interaction with skill and so AND monolith will tell if there is a general

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IN

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SA

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NE

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You wont have to bother running all the time wondering if there is one or not

runic trellis Jun 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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did legion node spawns get nerrfed?

placid grotto Jun 27, 2019, 3:55 AM

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I doubt it

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I've noticed sometimes no chests spawn though

frosty rivet Jun 27, 2019, 4:23 AM

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the whole General indicator thing is amazing

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ty GGG

runic basin Jun 27, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Holy crap, bought a mystery box, costing 30 points, got Wrangler wings, which cost 320 points. That was a very good deal.

placid grotto Jun 27, 2019, 6:01 AM

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It'll be good to tease out the likelihood of generals

carmine fiber Jun 27, 2019, 12:29 PM

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does the maraketh one even real

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literally checked like over 100 marakeths

knotty yew Jun 27, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I've had him twice since the beginning of the league

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So I probably missed him 10 times or sthg

low kindle Jun 27, 2019, 2:55 PM

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btw out of 5 new bosses 3 are ~~girls~~ women

royal gale Jun 27, 2019, 2:57 PM

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PeepoWeird

patent canyon Jun 27, 2019, 2:57 PM

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4

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templar is hiding from dmg like lil b.

placid grotto Jun 27, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Yeah she's there. Could be an issue with your character's seed

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I've seen her 2-4 times

long breach Jun 27, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Am I going crazy, I thought I saw a post that legion monoliths show when a general is available, did i dream that?

teal axle Jun 27, 2019, 4:18 PM

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in the most recent patch notes

long breach Jun 27, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Ok, ty. It's for .3 patch, not live yet.

split ruin Jun 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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best map for legion farming?

low kindle Jun 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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glacier probably

drifting flame Jun 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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report: after playing around with corrupted soul, I'm not sure that it's really worthwhile for a trickster to take. The ghost shrouds keep your white bar topped off either way, but the white bar is less effective at protecting your life globe. If I were to die I feel like it would be with full or nearly full ES, defeating the purpose. I'll keep playing with it to see if I feel the same way tomorrow

livid apex Jun 27, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Trickster has a lot of flat ES

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Corrupted Soul seems more useful when you don't have much flat ES

compact escarp Jun 27, 2019, 9:54 PM

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when opening a monolith, i've only been targeting mobs with loot icons above their heads. is this the right way or should I be trying to kill everything?

placid grotto Jun 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

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That's what I do. Prioritize warchests, generals, rares with icons/chests, normal/magic/rare mobs in that order.

compact escarp Jun 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

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ok. i'm not sure how to spot generals but i think that's going to be fixed with the latest patch

placid grotto Jun 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

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It'll be much easier best patch

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https://i.redd.it/cqtvl1yyqs331.png

fast spoke Jun 27, 2019, 10:02 PM

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^

placid grotto Jun 27, 2019, 10:02 PM

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That's a general outline of how it looks... Generally

fast spoke Jun 27, 2019, 10:02 PM

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ha I get it because generals

compact escarp Jun 27, 2019, 10:02 PM

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generalslly

placid grotto Jun 27, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Chests generally spawn near the general so it's find the primary orientation, run to the back, kill those guys, run to the other side, kill them

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No point freeing the guys by the monolith

gilded spire Jun 27, 2019, 11:39 PM

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God I hate buying maps. Every season I get to this point and its when i start to lose interest 😦 138 of 159

silver kettle Jun 27, 2019, 11:41 PM

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@gilded spire if you hate buying maps then don't buy them! You could just treat Atlas completion like you're ssf

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Or at most buy the couple of super rare uniques that you'll never get ssf

next epoch Jun 28, 2019, 12:02 AM

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@gilded spire tried trading maps with poemap.live? I've found that a lot smoother than buying/selling

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at least for lower maps, not sure how well it works for high tier stuff

gilded spire Jun 28, 2019, 12:31 AM

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@next epoch Will look into that. Thanks

midnight phoenix Jun 28, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Poemap.live best website

gilded spire Jun 28, 2019, 12:32 AM

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@silver kettle Point is getting a map shouldnt be so dumb. I get the no AH... But maps need a better way.

next epoch Jun 28, 2019, 12:37 AM

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There's a kind of a growing consensus that we do need an auction house for trading fungible items (i.e, currency, fossils, maps, fragments, etc)

silver kettle Jun 28, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Even GGG have acknowledged that they need to improve trading those items

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So we'll see where that goes

next epoch Jun 28, 2019, 12:46 AM

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also I'm really curious if legion jewels were made deliberately difficult to trade 😃

midnight phoenix Jun 28, 2019, 12:54 AM

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I think they were

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And tbh im completely fine with that

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Game is easy enough alrdy without the ability to find and buy the perfect legion jewel in 5 minutes

gilded spire Jun 28, 2019, 12:57 AM

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@next epoch Yea I could Care less about gear... But the small items that are needed to progress is a def must.. Also when theres just to many things now not to have one

velvet ivy Jun 28, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Yo guys got a question. Is farming Burial Chambers still viable with a ton of MF gear? Or is City Square better?

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or should I just T15/16 boss farm

next epoch Jun 28, 2019, 2:56 AM

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depends on what your goal is?

velvet ivy Jun 28, 2019, 2:56 AM

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monoliths changing up the farming meta a bit

next epoch Jun 28, 2019, 2:57 AM

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people MF farm Burial Chambers because it drops the div card

velvet ivy Jun 28, 2019, 2:57 AM

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solely measuring income per hour and comparing dif methods

drifting flame Jun 28, 2019, 3:10 AM

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What's the reason I don't see much discussion about farming for Nurse?

tiny flint Jun 28, 2019, 3:13 AM

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its 64 nurse

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to get a HH

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seems like more work?

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And have to run tower

prisma heart Jun 28, 2019, 3:51 AM

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is there a website people use for timeless jewel checking

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no one is letting me try before i buy

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even if i offer double the price

native osprey Jun 28, 2019, 4:28 AM

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buy try resell for minor loss

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otherwise you can only trust what other people tell you it does

lament dagger Jun 28, 2019, 1:45 PM

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How are the on kill mechanics now against legion?

frank hound Jun 28, 2019, 1:45 PM

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hopefully working

wary smelt Jun 28, 2019, 3:48 PM

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HH now procs 2x

quiet gale Jun 28, 2019, 3:52 PM

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The reason they won't let you try is because they have probably already tried and know the jewel is shit.

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Only the really cheap ones are interesting, cause it means someone probably hasn't checked, and bots snag those.

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What a great feature.

bold isle Jun 28, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I love my HH proccing twice now lmfao

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thx ggg for buffing my hh love you

white sierra Jun 28, 2019, 7:21 PM

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how do you clear the legion mechanic with cyclone? i cant even clear half of it reliably

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its not a DPS problem its just that theres not enough time to get all of them

normal kraken Jun 28, 2019, 7:22 PM

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sounds like a dps problem

low kindle Jun 28, 2019, 7:54 PM

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You need enough dps to pass through rares in sand stance without slowing down

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And obviously you should have quicksilver of adrenaline, 30% ms boots and onslaught on kill

placid grotto Jun 28, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Saw something about spamming glacier maps with alcs. I thought Legion was unaffected by quantity

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Are they? If you have 50% quant, do you get 50% more shards (so generals would drop about 10-12 instead of 6-8)

twilit monolith Jun 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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legion loot symbols aren't, legion mobs themselves are

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iirc

rancid cedar Jun 28, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Anyone know if it;s intentional for timeless jewels to overwrite Lioneye's Fall?

kindred dagger Jun 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Wait didnt the patch 9.7.3 allready updated ? Like the interaction for legion encounter that trigger effect on death should be in the game right now ?

normal kraken Jun 28, 2019, 9:50 PM

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@rancid cedar yes, timeless jewels "conquer" passives, which means that they can't be modified by any other jewel

rancid cedar Jun 28, 2019, 9:50 PM

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ah dammit

gritty ember Jun 28, 2019, 11:26 PM

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@placid grotto legion doesnt just drop shards and i think glacier usually spawns legion somewhere quick to get to

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i think glacier farming is about all of their drops

placid grotto Jun 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

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They do and it does

gritty ember Jun 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

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they do what

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only drop shards?

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no

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they drop a ton of stuff

placid grotto Jun 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

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No, drop more than shards

gritty ember Jun 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

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ye

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i think thats a big part of the profit there

placid grotto Jun 28, 2019, 11:29 PM

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That's the majority in my experience

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That or Jewelers

leaden storm Jun 28, 2019, 11:30 PM

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considering if you're not eldering glacier you're not getting many maraketh spawns in my experience

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you gotta bank on the other drops

placid grotto Jun 28, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Maraketh spawns normally

leaden storm Jun 28, 2019, 11:30 PM

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i feel like it's more frequent in higher maps

placid grotto Jun 28, 2019, 11:35 PM

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It could be, but it takes too much setup

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1/10 maps seems fine for me

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Not to mention availability of maps

pastel pilot Jun 29, 2019, 2:29 AM

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i got 2 legion jewels i heard creating a pvp only scion helps you check the jewels, do i just unlock the 3 jewel sockets close to the start and put them in there? or what? and how do i price check them?

gritty ember Jun 29, 2019, 3:40 AM

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@pastel pilot i think the intent is to use the unlimited respecs to spec in to whatever jewel socket you want

next epoch Jun 29, 2019, 4:17 AM

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or create multiple LLD scions that jointly have all the sockets

sick finch Jun 29, 2019, 1:34 PM

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why the fuck do the timeless conflict zones lag like fuck

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performing any action makes the ping spike to 1k

wet plaza Jun 29, 2019, 1:36 PM

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bad instance?

sick finch Jun 29, 2019, 1:39 PM

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no everything else works in every zone

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tried multiple gateways

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very epic

runic trellis Jun 29, 2019, 1:50 PM

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did legion drops get nerrfed

kindred dagger Jun 29, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Its strange they are suposed to have made legion fully trigger on death effect but something as basic as burning doesnt.... thanks the the shit cleaning

sour fox Jun 29, 2019, 5:14 PM

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So what does this visual indicator for generals look like? I haven’t noticed anything different when one was spawned.

kindred dagger Jun 29, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Im really wondering if they did the update

tough roost Jun 29, 2019, 5:25 PM

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They did

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When you open the big crystal thing, if there is a general

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There will be a big swirly misty purply thing

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Pointing in the direction of the General(s)

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Also what burning on death effect do you mean 🤔

kindred dagger Jun 29, 2019, 5:49 PM

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burning spread thats a thing you know

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Ignite

sharp raft Jun 29, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Are certain legion factions more likely to appear in certain maps?

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I have like 75% karui for some reason

worldly scaffold Jun 29, 2019, 6:41 PM

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okay the rarity chain is

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karui = eternal = vaal = templar = maraketh

proven wadi Jun 29, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Theyre all equal?

violet nymph Jun 29, 2019, 6:52 PM

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@proven wadi read as it is ->

proven wadi Jun 29, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I c

grizzled moth Jun 29, 2019, 7:02 PM

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finding more vaal/empire personally 🤷

next epoch Jun 29, 2019, 7:32 PM

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my experience has been eternal > vaal > karui > templar > maraketh

placid grotto Jun 29, 2019, 7:33 PM

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What a coincidence; I was just puting together my data on Legion encounters 😄

📎 Glacier_Legion_Proportions_1.png

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data I have from ~20 encounters so far

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though I have no idea if higher maps have more likely to hit Maraketh/Templar

next epoch Jun 29, 2019, 7:35 PM

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based on past league designs I suspect there's a level requirement for those two

placid grotto Jun 29, 2019, 7:36 PM

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this was only in Glacier (T2)

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BTW here's the other data I have for Legion; looks like map quantity has no impact on Warchests and likely regular chests

📎 Glacier_Shards_from_War_Chests_v_Map_Quantity_1.png

kindred dagger Jun 29, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I guess there is some map and tier where you'll most likely encounter some more than others, just a speculation

next epoch Jun 29, 2019, 10:45 PM

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I doubt it. GGG have used those sorts of selective mechanics very sparingly, and usually with clear signposts

gusty bison Jun 30, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Anyone have a screenshot of this new mechanic thats supposed to show if a general spawns?

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 12:39 AM

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I've nearly finished my atlas and I don't think I've gotten a single Timeless Jewel?

gusty bison Jun 30, 2019, 12:39 AM

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You have to do the event with the splinters

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thats where it drops

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 12:39 AM

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Thank you

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I've only done that once.

daring tulip Jun 30, 2019, 1:00 AM

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is there a way to cause more incubator legion mobs to spawn? I almost never see them, sometimes i'll run across the whole encounter w/o hitting anything just to try and find one

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also interested in general indicator gfx

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 2:40 AM

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Okay I don'

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I don't get the timeless jewels. at all.

proven wadi Jun 30, 2019, 2:54 AM

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Like not at all?

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They just modify passives in a range

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Oh wait you mean get like acquire

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Haha ignore me

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 2:57 AM

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No, like I'm trying to figure out where I need to place the gem to get "Ritual of Shadows" which is:
"(25-35)% increased Chaos Damage
25% chance to inflict Withered for 2 seconds on Hit"

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But from every image I see, I'm not getting it.

gritty ember Jun 30, 2019, 2:58 AM

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not all jewels will grant it

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its based on your seed

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each node gets properties based on your seed

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you can divine a jewel for a different seed

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 2:59 AM

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10-4. Oh and the number of "bathed in blood" determines the size of the radius?

gritty ember Jun 30, 2019, 2:59 AM

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no

proven wadi Jun 30, 2019, 2:59 AM

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No that's the seed

next epoch Jun 30, 2019, 3:10 AM

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for all practical intents and purposes, the number is fluff

gritty ember Jun 30, 2019, 3:18 AM

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yeah its not like you can really divine it for a specific number

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Okay, I think I understand better now.

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Question though, is the seed digit specific or is it a range?

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So like would seed 1050 be similar to 1051 or would they be completely different

gritty ember Jun 30, 2019, 3:25 AM

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we have no idea but just assume they are all different and unpredictable

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Okay that makes a lot more sense! Ty ! I'm on the same page now.

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"we have no idea" makes me feel a lot better. I thought I was the only one.

gritty ember Jun 30, 2019, 3:26 AM

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yeah ggg made them intentionally obscure so that you cant datamine or i guess trade them easily

mellow dagger Jun 30, 2019, 4:24 AM

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That's cool I actually really like this. It completely fucks my build up but also makes it so much stronger. So now I have found a balance but still needs way more work. Interesting mechanic!

low kindle Jun 30, 2019, 4:33 AM

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ever played minecraft

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1050 and 1051 are completely different seeds

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Or any other pair of neighboring numbers

sterile solar Jun 30, 2019, 6:03 AM

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I feel as if the best profit for a solo player who doesn't wanna fickle around with sextants and investment is just glaciers honestly

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I don't think at any point full atlas completion has been good in any league

pastel pilot Jun 30, 2019, 6:08 AM

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how are people pricing their timeless jewels? and how are they selling the ones that do something good? i dont understand how these are meant to be traded

wet plaza Jun 30, 2019, 6:16 AM

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full atlas completion was good enough to buy me a headhunter early on few times

nimble stump Jun 30, 2019, 7:12 AM

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Are generals uniques usually?

next epoch Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 AM

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Yes, Legion Generals are five specific unique monsters

nimble stump Jun 30, 2019, 7:22 AM

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Gotcha. How long does it usually take for that animation to pop up after clicking the monolith? Maybe I'm rushing into it too fast..

carmine sentinel Jun 30, 2019, 8:25 AM

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how does the visual indicator for generals look like

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it was mentioned in the patch notes

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and can it be seen BEFORE opening a monolith?

wet plaza Jun 30, 2019, 8:29 AM

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only visible after popping it

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@carmine sentinel

📎 unknown.png

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general was lower right

carmine sentinel Jun 30, 2019, 8:30 AM

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hmm

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what is the indicator here? the crystal? or the flame aura thing arond the monolith

next epoch Jun 30, 2019, 8:30 AM

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the purple aura wavey thing pointing to the right

carmine sentinel Jun 30, 2019, 8:32 AM

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oh i see it now, thanks

next epoch Jun 30, 2019, 8:34 AM

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it's not super obvious especially in game :/

wet plaza Jun 30, 2019, 8:34 AM

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its good enough if you know how it looks like imo

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bit unfortunate its not longer

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so you will want to wait or come back after clearing half of it

quasi coyote Jun 30, 2019, 11:17 AM

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what legion thing drops you a unique 6 linked armor

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apparently the big armor rares

elfin iron Jun 30, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Is multistrike still bugged or is the animation cancelling thing fixed?

proven wadi Jun 30, 2019, 1:43 PM

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What do you mean

patent canyon Jun 30, 2019, 2:03 PM

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it would never reach 3rd strike if you held button

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it would just cycle 1-2-1-2-1-2

twin rampart Jun 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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only if you have enough attack speed

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pretty sure it still exists

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i think cyclone is also sort of buggy with block or something like that

safe fern Jun 30, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Man these Timeless Jewels are disappointing. "Try this item and see what random effects it has on your skill tree!" is not a fun game mechanic

proven wadi Jun 30, 2019, 6:23 PM

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marauderthinking

native elm Jun 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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On the new jewels do the number matter?

boreal compass Jun 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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@safe fern it's another form of RNG, the entire game is based on RNG....

safe fern Jun 30, 2019, 6:34 PM

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yeah it's just the jewels are such an endgame reward, it'd be nice if there was a little intentionality in them. I guess I can at least reroll with a Divine

normal kraken Jun 30, 2019, 6:36 PM

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not really, it's easy to obtain a karui jewel

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and it's quite trivial to use a karui jewel on any build

cloud siren Jun 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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if you divine a jewel

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does it change the all rolls?

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aka the name ones too?

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📎 unknown.png

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@me if you got the answer

next epoch Jun 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Yes, "Deshret" is considered a random modifier for this item

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Notice that, if you hold Alt, "Deshret" has a range

silver stirrup Jun 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Guys, have you noticed a drop in 5 way emblem returns?

analog atlas Jun 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

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are legion jewels dropping only from 5 way?

patent canyon Jun 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

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no they can drop for lower ones

midnight phoenix Jun 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Any general kill has a chance to drop jewels

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Ppl report dropping them off map generals as well

runic trellis Jul 1, 2019, 5:14 AM

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are people just runnign two accounts to have one person sit in legion center

lofty wolf Jul 1, 2019, 5:23 AM

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get friends l u l

crude stone Jul 1, 2019, 7:14 AM

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lMfAo

frosty aurora Jul 1, 2019, 3:19 PM

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it's funny how I've shaped glaciers

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and doing legion alone without whole map is kinda sustaining them

violet raft Jul 1, 2019, 4:42 PM

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It's even stupider than that

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I made 10ex farming act 9 quarry

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In 2 days

gentle gale Jul 1, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Yh the general strat is to go in a map find the legion do the legion leave the map

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why do anything else

placid grotto Jul 1, 2019, 9:52 PM

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you can sustain them just running Legion? I'm admittedly using T2 maps, but best I've been able to get is 1 drop/2 maps from Legion; more would have to come from either the boss or killing the other mobs

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these are on alc'd T2 maps so 60-70 quant usually

fickle summit Jul 1, 2019, 10:32 PM

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If you have 100% chance to impale on hit and you hit with an earthquake that also has shockwave linked, do you get 3 impales (hit, shockwave gem, aftershock)?

tranquil yoke Jul 1, 2019, 11:07 PM

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does MF grant extra quant on boxes from legion or is it just the mob kills themselves that get extra quant?

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ya i thought so too, thx

placid grotto Jul 1, 2019, 11:16 PM

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My data shows it's likely independent of map quantity

📎 Glacier_Shards_from_War_Chests_v_Map_Quantity_1.png

tranquil yoke Jul 1, 2019, 11:18 PM

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i love myself a good scatter plot

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thanks for sharing

placid grotto Jul 1, 2019, 11:20 PM

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np you can find other data here

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qaTucTJDnY3Tqoz2uXVJdFUm6mWhC7rFQTi1x74edBo/edit#gid=1319557176

Google Docs

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just adding things on as I go

fiery panther Jul 2, 2019, 7:20 AM

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just got a legion jewel that has 2 80% phys within 5 points of socket

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is this good

tough roost Jul 2, 2019, 8:02 AM

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Only you can answer that question really 🤔

low kindle Jul 2, 2019, 8:51 AM

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percent damage increase is easy to come by, that's why crit builds are so much better

thick oar Jul 2, 2019, 3:13 PM

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is it normal for legion jewels to override lion eye's fall ?

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 3:37 PM

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They conquer passives in their radius

spice cipher Jul 2, 2019, 4:52 PM

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There’s always at least one reward node in an encounter right? Or am I just that unlucky

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That I didn’t see it

teal axle Jul 2, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I think ive seen 0s

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I think its unlikely but possible

spice cipher Jul 2, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Well fuck

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Did 10 maps this morning and 7 of those had no reward nodes. All open maps and I went from side to side

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 5:26 PM

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It's unlikely that 7 in 10 had no reward nodes at all

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I think that I've ever seen 0 rewards 2, maybe 3 times

spice cipher Jul 2, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Yeah not that they weren’t there just didn’t see them

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Must have been bad rng with only 1 node that I missed

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Can someone tell me if just having a HH will make your build viable for emblem fights?

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In terms of like you clear them optimally since from what I understand it's a time based event

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 8:07 PM

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It still depends a bit on which skill you're using and whether you're buffing damage that's already there or just trying to create damage that isn't

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Generally you'd want to increase the duration that you have HH buffs for to stack more of them at once so solstice vigil and self-curse temp chains tend to be important

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:08 PM

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And these are specific uniques,gem combination, or some kind of rare lab/shaper enchant?

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 8:09 PM

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solstice vigil is an amulet, and you self-curse with shackles of the wretched

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Like could you slap that combination on a build?

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Ok so it takes a belt and ammy slot?

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 8:09 PM

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gloves

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(additionally)

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:10 PM

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I see

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 8:10 PM

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A lot of people run kaom's roots with that too so that the temp chains doesn't slow you down either

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Are those boots?

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Yes

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Aha

fast spoke Jul 2, 2019, 8:10 PM

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with those 4 slots taken, though, pretty much any build would be fine

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Its actually very doable then

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I lose out on a free vulnerability debuff

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From the onyx impresemce

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But with expensive enough rings I could still get the high resists

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Ok and on another note, which melee skill would you say is preferable in those encounters? Cause my main skill currently is lacerate

thick cosmos Jul 2, 2019, 8:17 PM

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hey guys im looking for lethal pride timeless jewels + the maraketh timeless jewel i jsut need to borrow them for challenge

neat fable Jul 2, 2019, 8:19 PM

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I just found out that kaoms roots would destroy any evasion based build

normal kraken Jul 2, 2019, 8:31 PM

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it's a common mistake

weary galleon Jul 2, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@thick cosmos Just buy the lowest priced one, equip it, and sell it for 1c less. It works every time.

frosty aurora Jul 2, 2019, 9:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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you probably gonna make like 10 times more than that in 60 maps

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ehh maybe 5-8 times

sour crescent Jul 3, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Can anyone explain to me, why glacier is better than say, strand? Been running strand (as suggested by ti3n at league start), and don't feel im seeing the same returns

eager terrace Jul 3, 2019, 6:43 AM

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I think it is because frequently the monolith spawns very near to the start

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it's not as good when it spawns in the cave section

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but I guess it is offset enough by how frequently it is there in the first area

sour crescent Jul 3, 2019, 6:44 AM

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So if i run a qotf setup, there shoulnd't be that much of a diffrence?

midnight phoenix Jul 3, 2019, 6:44 AM

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I dont think it ever spawns in the cave section

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So its just always a 5 second run to the monolith then 30 seconds to clear it

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Then u ignore rest of map and go again

placid grotto Jul 3, 2019, 6:45 AM

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it does spawn in the cave. I think it's about once every 20 or so maps

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I personally do Syndicate/Incursion if they show up and that's it

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though lately I've been doing the boss as well

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not sure if it's worth it; I'm doing it for the moment until I can get the Elder orb

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but to answer your question, Glacier encounters feel larger than Strand's, which means you get more value/map. It's also usually closer to the portal. But I can see Strand being easier to sustain.

balmy dew Jul 3, 2019, 10:14 AM

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If you shape both T3s connected to glacier, it's quite easy to sustain. I usually run through the cave and kill the mobs before the main boss. Takes about 15 seconds longer, but I've got a stash tab of glaciers now

quaint saddle Jul 3, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Is it possible to get a HeadHunter from a Singular Incubator?

frank hound Jul 3, 2019, 12:57 PM

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is the singular incubator the one that gives you a random incubated item?

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if yes then yes

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but it'd be a minuscule chance

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kind of like getting a HH from a void div card

quaint saddle Jul 3, 2019, 1:29 PM

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ahh cool, even if that chance is miniscule its still a chance thank you for the answer

fallen terrace Jul 3, 2019, 4:07 PM

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tips on getting 150+ enemies freed and full clears with cyclone?

teal axle Jul 3, 2019, 4:10 PM

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be fast

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or ask in global for an ED player to do it for you

lament dagger Jul 3, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Use Berserk

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To become bigger and be faster do more damage

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I have seen that doing it in Blood aqueduct is easier

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Tigher area do Legion spawns in tigher grouping

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Killing chests first frees surrounding enemies

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And high movement speed and aoe is key

patent canyon Jul 3, 2019, 4:56 PM

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blood aq wont spawn 150 total

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easier to do that on open low tier map

lament dagger Jul 3, 2019, 4:57 PM

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That's when I got it

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But glacier great for it

wet plaza Jul 3, 2019, 5:01 PM

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blood aque did spawn 150 easily for me

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got it while levelling my char on day 2

patent canyon Jul 3, 2019, 5:08 PM

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i guess if you spawn it next to passage to other side

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if it spawns on the straight line there should be no way for 150

wary smelt Jul 3, 2019, 5:23 PM

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i hate when theres a wall and it spawn enemies on the other side

wind copper Jul 3, 2019, 5:45 PM

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You know how easy it is to accidentally enter a portal? Even though you don't directly click on it? Is there a way to configure the UI to be less portal-sticky?

radiant swift Jul 3, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Do you get more rewards in emblems fights with more people in it?

celest atlas Jul 3, 2019, 6:46 PM

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how do i get the 5 slot map device ? do i need to do a 4 timeless conflict fight first?

copper kernel Jul 3, 2019, 6:50 PM

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yes

light monolith Jul 3, 2019, 9:59 PM

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do you guys think a 6L essence drain + 6L blight setup is the best for SSF 4/5 way farming? blight can do lots of single target dps

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I find the speed of cycloner lackluster and can't get past 2 rows with pretty highend gear (for ssf standars, so no HH, inspired learning, +3 range foils, etc)

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i'm open to any other suggestions, I do have two BLS so maybe something with that?

gritty ember Jul 4, 2019, 12:26 AM

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that should be super good.

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 3:47 AM

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what do you guys think is the better money maker right now? MF burials spam or movement speed legion spam?

copper kernel Jul 4, 2019, 3:48 AM

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burials are even more of a noob trap post nerf

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 3:55 AM

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so stay away from burials and do legion spam with MS?

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i didnt hear about BC nerf what did they do?

copper kernel Jul 4, 2019, 3:56 AM

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HH and by extension all its sources are more rare

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 3:58 AM

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so running BC isnt nearly as profitable as legion spam now i suppose?

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i find the legion spam kinda boring i like seeing a juicy drop every once in a while

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but im trying to be efficient as possible

low kindle Jul 4, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Legion drops juicy items once in a while

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Like corrupted gems and 6links

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:12 AM

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burial chambers still super profitable to farm at t5

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got my HH and 3 inspired learnings while farming BC's for a week

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4 doctor drops out of 500+ maps

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alch and go

placid grotto Jul 4, 2019, 5:33 AM

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I prefer Glacier for steady returns, personally. Isn't BC's average typically 1 doctor per 2-300 maps?

lament dagger Jul 4, 2019, 5:36 AM

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anyone know where I can find a carry for 5 man encounter?

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not carry is in completion I have that already

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carry as in someone with HH and inspired learnings who just wants to run for EXP

placid grotto Jul 4, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Huh BC would give about 2-4ex/hr assuming you can regularly get Doctors

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Dah i been doing carries all day long for free

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Appreciate the math Tralf

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Guess i got lucky with drops compared to most people

placid grotto Jul 4, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Wait crap that's before costs

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:42 AM

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this was when HH was 100-120 ex and IL were 12-14ex

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 5:43 AM

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when you farmed BC did you run full MF or MS?

placid grotto Jul 4, 2019, 5:43 AM

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That's going to be a much smaller number

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:43 AM

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yes full MF

placid grotto Jul 4, 2019, 5:44 AM

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What's your sustain ration for BC? 1.5ish?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:44 AM

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just no div distillate

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Yea you can say that

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 5:44 AM

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what was your quant %?

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do you remmeber?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:44 AM

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around 65 IIQ i believe

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not counting windripper

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 5:45 AM

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thats really low wow

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Was running 6ld windripper and 6ld qotf though

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HoI chain helped a lot with legions

placid grotto Jul 4, 2019, 5:46 AM

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HoI can chain with Legion?

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Thought they would be too far apart

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 5:47 AM

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isnt it TS chain?

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for monoliths?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Yea sorry TS+HoI chain

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Yes Monolith

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 5:48 AM

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did you use ventors?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:48 AM

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no 2 white pariahs

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Will message back once i get 2 of the 5 emblem carries out of the way

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 5:49 AM

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what other quant items you used?

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im trying to setup a TS MF right now

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take ur time ill be hanging around

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i got qotf and windripper devotos rigwalds and seven step, now i just need some MF wondering what items were good for that

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 5:57 AM

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I'd drop the seven steps tbh and throw on goldwyrms

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that's 20% quant and 40+ fire res you're missiing out on

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my setup was Sadimas, Goldwyrms, 2 white pariah rings, biscos, and windripper

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I didn't go for devotos at the time and bought a +2 TS mirrored helm that would cap me on my res

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:14 AM

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is the +2 really necessary to farm a t5 map?

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and yeah good call goldwyrms would be a lot better

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:14 AM

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it was at the time when they were selling for 3ex

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idk what prices are now

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:15 AM

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for a bad helm would be 6ex min

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how much chaos did u net p/h on avg?

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bcz most of these alch and go MS builds are netting like 500+ not on BC

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although im guessing 3-400+ is more realistic since the dude had mirror gear+hh

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Guess it's personal preference really

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I wasn't really keeping track of that since i would run around 50 BC's and dump all my loot in quad tabs

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I had a lot of 1-3ex item drops whether it'd be from a div card up to a 6 link

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:35 AM

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man ur really making me re-think running BC

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ive just been strand spamming and its decent im making like 9-11ex per 100 maps

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do you know how much you made per 100?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:37 AM

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I just ran BC because i had a feeling I'd drop doctors lol

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didn't get my first one until 150 maps in

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then i got another maybe 20 maps after that

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can't really say how much i made per 100

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:38 AM

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150 maps in jesusss thats nutty

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do you know how long it took you to run 100 or even 10?

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see if afraid ill swap over make less money and then wont get doctor till 1k

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:38 AM

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was hoarding all the currency i had until i knew i can liquidate and buy what i needed

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:39 AM

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basically im fomoing hard

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yeah p much what im doing rn

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:40 AM

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I guess i can say each map took about 2 mins like Tralf said

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maybe less if i were to run on a much strict filter

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:43 AM

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you're really making me wana buy some quant gear and shape bc right now.. <__>

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:44 AM

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haha it's worth a try

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I'd personally leave BC as a t5 if i were you

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:46 AM

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just leave it done so i can get bc drops?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:47 AM

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I don't get what you're saying

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I just uncompleted all my t5/t6's

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shaped promenade

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:47 AM

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well im doing t4 rn

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:47 AM

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and elder orb maze

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so all you get are BC's

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:48 AM

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and i uncompleted 4/5s

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so do you mean complete BC?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:48 AM

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ohhh

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yea it doesn't hurt to add BC

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i would still uncomplete all your t6's though

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:50 AM

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if i complete bc and dont uncomp t6s will i get them as drops from running t4?

orchid current Jul 4, 2019, 6:51 AM

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yea you still have a chance to drop 2 tiers higher

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so you would get both t5 BC and t6's to drop from running t4's

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 6:53 AM

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Ah makes sense yeah

eternal laurel Jul 4, 2019, 7:58 AM

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im about 800 maps in with no doctor 😦

surreal elm Jul 4, 2019, 8:03 AM

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probably more worth it to go with unique incubators and hope hh drops XD

chilly gazelle Jul 4, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Lmao

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According to mike he got 1 within 150 maps

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Are you MF?

violet nymph Jul 4, 2019, 12:55 PM

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I did 1.2k bc before I got a doctor

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Was running 85 quant

valid bloom Jul 4, 2019, 1:59 PM

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so i have two jewels and they're very similar

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but one jewel has 10% chance to intimidate on hit and the other has 5% chance to deal double damage

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which one to pick?

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the one that has 5% chance to deal damage gives me only about 250 hp while the other gives 350 hp

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but it also has phys damage taken as fire dmg

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as well as reduced damage taken from critical hits

proven wadi Jul 4, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Hm chance to intimidate is like 10% more melee single target isn't it

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Whereas 5 to double is only 5% more

royal gale Jul 4, 2019, 2:35 PM

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If you do not already have a form of increased damage taken then yes the intimidate is better

fallen terrace Jul 4, 2019, 2:51 PM

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what's a good small map to get full clears in

frosty aurora Jul 4, 2019, 3:00 PM

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glacier

proven wadi Jul 4, 2019, 3:55 PM

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How is Dance with Death?

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I'm seeing the no-helmet and thinking no-thanks...

fast spoke Jul 4, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Yes

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I didn't recognize the name because as soon as I looked at the keystone I thought "Nope."

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Helmets are too strong to give up for lucky crits, even though lucky crits are great. It has a use case where you've got mid-tier gear and don't want to deal with an enchant maybe and you're doing lightning crit maybe

proven wadi Jul 4, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I think I'll use the blind + 25% more crit chance instead

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its basically the same thing but my build gets no downside

fast spoke Jul 4, 2019, 4:03 PM

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crit multi*

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wait

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it is chance

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Whooops

proven wadi Jul 4, 2019, 4:07 PM

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it'll help since I'm using a unique staff without high base crit chance

violet nymph Jul 4, 2019, 4:13 PM

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yeah, it's more crit chance

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shit's pretty good

fast spoke Jul 4, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Yeah that's interesting for sure

runic trellis Jul 4, 2019, 7:49 PM

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YO WTF just crrrashed in two different 5 mans

balmy dew Jul 4, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Are people still buying glaciers in bulk? Because then I might just do it so I can sell the excess maps to them :p

radiant swift Jul 4, 2019, 11:52 PM

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5 emblems? Not sure if it's actually the issue, but me n my friend both crashes when we had incubators on

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Like constantly crashes

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Then we made sure to not go in with incubators and havnt crashed since

kindred dagger Jul 5, 2019, 12:28 PM

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So how timeless jewels rarity actualy do you think at some point we will be able to buy them at resonable cost ?

low kindle Jul 5, 2019, 1:00 PM

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What do you mean by reasonable cost

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Lethal pride is 20c

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Brutal restraint too

kindred dagger Jul 5, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Yeah i just checked its seems fine, last time i checked there wasnt even any jewel sold so i thought this would be super rare

low kindle Jul 5, 2019, 1:47 PM

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When was that

kindred dagger Jul 5, 2019, 2:25 PM

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not so long and anyway i can see some jewel at an affordable price but OF COURSE there isnt the one i want...

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fuck

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my

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life

proven wadi Jul 5, 2019, 2:40 PM

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How to you even know which one you want besides keystone

kindred dagger Jul 5, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Because you go on wiki and you can see informations

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And the keystone itself is enough, then there is the number but you can try to randomise them yourself, but there isnt even have the one i need.................................

sour fox Jul 5, 2019, 2:44 PM

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If you can find the right base with the wrong keystone name, you can divine until you get the right keystone. I did that for doryani since the base with the wrong name was 1/3 the price.

kindred dagger Jul 5, 2019, 2:44 PM

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this life just fond new ways everyday to shit on me

low kindle Jul 5, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Divining changes the name

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Well ofc there isn't the number you need because there's like 100000 different numbers for each jewel

radiant swift Jul 5, 2019, 3:45 PM

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is there a downside to constantly respawning mobs in 5 ways emblems? like i have my friend just constantly respawning the map as soon as its possible for him (and i just go around killing shits, nonstop*)

kindred dagger Jul 5, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Seems no one had done listing for now but for what i saw in video and so maybe the number could be by ranges, like 0-1000 gives one bonus, 1001 -2000 another and so on

radiant swift Jul 5, 2019, 3:46 PM

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we're still on our early tries, so kinda wondering if we can make the runs more profitable

frosty aurora Jul 5, 2019, 7:05 PM

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so what's the optimal x-way conflict run

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4 or 5?

patent canyon Jul 5, 2019, 7:11 PM

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3 with no inspired or hh

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5 with

radiant swift Jul 5, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Pretty sure you'd make more profit selling the emblems, if you don't run HH or some speed farming build

vast gazelle Jul 6, 2019, 1:14 AM

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The 3 cheapest emblems are p cheap

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Not that awful to spend if you wanna invest in league content

misty phoenix Jul 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Is there any act 1-10map that is used for monolith farm?

Or maps simply better?

teal axle Jul 6, 2019, 4:22 AM

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glacier seems to be the best. some people like city square.

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quarry is, imo, the "best" campaign area but its not better, just cheaper to run if you havent set up your atlas

placid grotto Jul 6, 2019, 5:54 AM

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I don't think you can easily find the spawn in Quarry

lone prawn Jul 6, 2019, 5:54 AM

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Anyone tried headhunter with ED/Contagion on 5 way emblem fight?

placid grotto Jul 6, 2019, 5:54 AM

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I think Bridge or Foothills would be better

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They're linear and pretty close; Quarry could be in any direction, 2-3 screens away from the WP

midnight phoenix Jul 6, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Spawn in quarry is same few places every league mechanic always is

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Bridge sucks

placid grotto Jul 6, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Not this league

midnight phoenix Jul 6, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Sometimes ur spawn is the other side

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Na it is i farmed it in ssf a bit

placid grotto Jul 6, 2019, 5:56 AM

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You could see all Cavas spawns part league

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And Niko/Alva

midnight phoenix Jul 6, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Its never more than a screen or two away and u can see it about half the time u load in

placid grotto Jul 6, 2019, 5:56 AM

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From the area immediately around WP

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However, things like Fortifications with Jun or Monolith can't be easily seen

midnight phoenix Jul 6, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Foothills is alright too

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Dont run harbour bridge tho it sucks half the time

placid grotto Jul 6, 2019, 5:57 AM

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I agree but some people like it

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It's awkward to reset

midnight phoenix Jul 6, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Its only ok for experience

haughty marsh Jul 6, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Is it a known bug/issue that you randomly get kicked out of the game during emblem fights and when you log back in all your portals are gone?

gritty ember Jul 6, 2019, 8:16 PM

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its an instance crash, they have fixed a lot of them but its possible that you have an undocumented one. you could check the bug report forums or make a new report there

haughty marsh Jul 6, 2019, 8:19 PM

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did that already but my emblems are gone now, fml

gritty ember Jul 6, 2019, 8:27 PM

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yeah rip

radiant swift Jul 6, 2019, 9:28 PM

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dont incubate stuffs while doing emblems

next epoch Jul 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I think there's some kind of bug with incubators hatching in general

radiant swift Jul 7, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Yeah, its just that there's more to lose for you, if its gonna lag/crash you during emblems

twin fjord Jul 7, 2019, 12:40 AM

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which map to elder, mausoleum or leyline?

placid grotto Jul 7, 2019, 4:06 AM

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Are you running it or for Glacier

winter swan Jul 7, 2019, 11:33 AM

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If for glacier, you need to shape and elder both

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If running, leyline is better

frosty aurora Jul 7, 2019, 4:59 PM

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glacier broke, no monolith send energy GWmythicalFeelsSadMan

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sour fox Jul 7, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Inside

nimble sun Jul 7, 2019, 7:23 PM

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any incubators worth running for glacier runs, i wanna buy some to have 9 running all the time 😮

placid grotto Jul 8, 2019, 12:30 AM

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hmm probably gilded fossil incubators from red maps

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should be able to buy for 3-4c and turn it into a 5-15c fossil

placid grotto Jul 8, 2019, 12:51 AM

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hmmm just ran a map to see how much stuff gets killed doing Legion and then boss, not really stopping to kill stuff. I think T2 Glacier has about 400-600 monsters including Legion. Over 1k if you get Alva

modest harness Jul 8, 2019, 2:28 AM

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do timeless jewels only drop from the 5-way conflict?

silver kettle Jul 8, 2019, 2:29 AM

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no, they can drop from any domain of timeless conflict

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I've seen some mention that they can even drop from generals spawned by monoliths in maps, but haven't seen confirmation of that

quasi vapor Jul 8, 2019, 2:51 AM

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does any1 know why some of my auras dont effect me

silver kettle Jul 8, 2019, 2:52 AM

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which auras?

quasi vapor Jul 8, 2019, 2:52 AM

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purity of elements

silver kettle Jul 8, 2019, 2:52 AM

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are you using generosity or victario's influence?

quasi vapor Jul 8, 2019, 2:53 AM

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yea

silver kettle Jul 8, 2019, 2:53 AM

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well there you go

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generosity means they don't affect you

quasi vapor Jul 8, 2019, 2:53 AM

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oh

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wellp

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thank you

quasi vapor Jul 8, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Is a devoto devotion with ice nova damage actually worth 6ex like it says on poe trade?

lilac folio Jul 8, 2019, 4:58 AM

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I would imagine so!

worldly scaffold Jul 8, 2019, 9:43 AM

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@quasi vapor yeah, people want devotos for increased movement speed to run glaciers

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and inc ice nova gives them better damage to do so (for Vaal Ice Nova)

pallid beacon Jul 8, 2019, 11:20 AM

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yea the vaal ice nova farming seems very stronk

violet nymph Jul 8, 2019, 12:25 PM

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How do i sustain glacier without elder orb? Shape glacier and uncomplete tier 7/8s?

patent canyon Jul 8, 2019, 12:28 PM

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y

quiet geyser Jul 8, 2019, 12:53 PM

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How do monolith scale with quanity and pack size of a map?

fast spoke Jul 8, 2019, 4:04 PM

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They don't

low kindle Jul 8, 2019, 7:25 PM

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They do, with pack size

fast spoke Jul 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

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bwaaaaaah really?

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I never feel like they're bigger or anything but I'll pay attention to that over the next few maps I do with rampage to count em

finite stone Jul 8, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Guys where can i sell a 5way embelm set as a whole ?

rare crystal Jul 8, 2019, 10:37 PM

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If anyone's wondering, this is the loot from 50 shaped glaciers, alch and go + abyss mod. Full map clear. Started with 4 maps.
I anso ran dapth 400 delves with the sulphite and cracked monoliths from zana's missions. Full monolith opening beacuse ED.

TL:DR : Don't farm shaped glaciers, there's no point. Farm t2 ones.

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gritty ember Jul 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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what about this tells us not to run shaped ones?

rare crystal Jul 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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if you ever saw loot from non shaped ones, you'd know it looks exactly the same ^^
this is pretty much twice as slow tho, you need to clear the grotto most of the time to sustain maps. Not worth it.

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This is money tho and worth farming, don't get me wrong. But t2 is better.

royal gale Jul 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Ye I mean to be fair we know that map tier doesn’t have a measureable impact on loot

rare crystal Jul 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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I couldn't actually find any info on that.

royal gale Jul 8, 2019, 11:01 PM

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That’s pretty common game knowledge

rare crystal Jul 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Also, There is definitely more rares with symbols in monoliths as you go up in tiers

royal gale Jul 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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It’s one of the biggest criticisms of the current atlas structure

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Yeah that’s the case for legion specifically

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So that part is true

rare crystal Jul 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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and incubators drop better loot at higher tiers. Excepts I got a grand total of 0 incubators where tier matter.

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hence, t7 glacxiars make no sense

royal gale Jul 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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For a long time it’s always been better chaos per hour to run low tier maps

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Not to mention white sextants vs yellow or red

rare crystal Jul 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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that's indeed a big thing

royal gale Jul 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Yeah it’s kinda interesting that high tier maps aren’t really incentivized but perhaps that will change

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Or maybe it won’t

rare crystal Jul 8, 2019, 11:04 PM

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to be fair

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uber elder farming is usually really good, it's just eclipsed by glaciers/alleways atm

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especially now that starforge is 8ex

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Also, t16+ maps always have that chance to drop that huge shaper/elder atlas base that's worth a ton

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(it's not like I carried someone who looted an elder astral lvl 86 and tipped me 5c:'()

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anyways. time to sleep. bye ^^

royal gale Jul 8, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Adios

dusty umbra Jul 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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just spamming any t5-8 gave more more over 100s of it , doesnt look to good

clear belfry Jul 8, 2019, 11:47 PM

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what lvl is a 4-way legion (5-way?)?

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HULLO DOES ANYBODY KNOW?

placid grotto Jul 9, 2019, 12:11 AM

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I'm not certain higher level incubators drop better loot

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Testing with ilvl 72-86 hasn't given any clear indication

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Granted, sample size of about 20 and still WIP

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qaTucTJDnY3Tqoz2uXVJdFUm6mWhC7rFQTi1x74edBo/edit?usp=drivesdk

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silk brook Jul 9, 2019, 9:31 AM

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how does the jewels work

low kindle Jul 9, 2019, 10:07 AM

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ever played minecraft

runic trellis Jul 9, 2019, 1:58 PM

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are all these insane mana modifiers on item going to be taken out for next league?

copper kernel Jul 9, 2019, 2:07 PM

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What do you mean

haughty harbor Jul 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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-mana cost most likely

pallid beacon Jul 9, 2019, 2:48 PM

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isnt it mostly just insane because cyclone is a channel skill and doesn't cost much mana to begin with?

marsh minnow Jul 9, 2019, 2:56 PM

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base cost of 2 i think, doesn't scale up ether since its an attack

calm sonnet Jul 9, 2019, 4:08 PM

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sorta glad i splurged and bought a nice double -mana cost ring early on

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-15 mana on a single ring, frees up my other ring to stack resists and what not

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thougoh some of the legion mechanics still end up blowing me up

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especially in t14+

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

placid grotto Jul 9, 2019, 5:53 PM

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The mana cost craft will likely be neutered as will Cyclone

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And ED/C, ironically

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Though if Legion weren't the mechanic and something like Betrayal was (where clear isn't as important), EDC would be left alone

lament dagger Jul 9, 2019, 7:16 PM

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also time for a Tornado shot nerf feels like

teal axle Jul 9, 2019, 7:19 PM

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or just buff and tweak up the other bow skills

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vaal tornado shot when, its just ranged vaal cyclone

proven wadi Jul 9, 2019, 9:42 PM

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They should make wander not a pain

next epoch Jul 10, 2019, 4:34 AM

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-mana rings aren't the problem with cyclone though. if it weren't for that people would just dip into mana on hit or mana leech or something

placid grotto Jul 10, 2019, 7:01 AM

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It doesn't matter if the rings are a problem or not; only what GGG perceives as a problem. Similar the (initial) Raging Spirit increase in mana cost last league

steep plover Jul 10, 2019, 9:46 AM

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Anyone know what builds are good for 5-way legion farming? Is it just cyclone or TS with HH?

fleet pivot Jul 10, 2019, 10:19 AM

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ed/contagion with high dps is not viable there?

low kindle Jul 10, 2019, 11:37 AM

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No

proven wadi Jul 10, 2019, 1:43 PM

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I got my first abyssal depths yesterday. It was alright. Got a crappy stygian vise

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 3:45 PM

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In a perfect situation, how many mobs does Vaal Arc hit? At max level it chains 9 times, and the skill says "Each time the beam chains it will also chain simultaneously to a second enemy". So does it double with each leap and end up hitting 2 + 4 + 8 + 16 + 32... + 512 = 1022 mobs?

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(I'm adding Vaal Arc to my Storm Brand build to help with monolith clearing)

marsh wyvern Jul 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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@safe fern did you figure it out? by the wording i would guess it can hit 27 or 28 at once. like it has one free chain per primary hit/chain. thats the way i interpret it. however i am not sure, but if you tried it let me know what the results were.

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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It definitely hits more than 28

marsh wyvern Jul 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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awesome, maybe it does hit like 1k heh

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ive honestly never used to to say

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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it sort of looks like it does, and I found some discussion on Reddit speculating it should. no confirmation.

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video of vaal arc in action (ignore the rampage): https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cb36u4/rampage_vaal_arc_legion_monolith/

r/pathofexile - Rampage + Vaal Arc + Legion Monolith

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marsh wyvern Jul 10, 2019, 4:38 PM

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oh shit wow that looks like it hit everything

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thats interesting

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Normal Arc doesn't have exponential growth, the description says "Each time the main beam chains it will also chain to a second enemy, but that secondary arc cannot chain further." So that gets you to your 28 or so.

shell lion Jul 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Will you guys alc your glacier maps or just run them as normal quality

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Vaal Arc doesn't have that restriction on chaining further: "Each time the beam chains it will also chain simultaneously to a second enemy, but no enemy can be hit twice by the beams."

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that "no enemy can be hit twice" helps force the Vaal Arc to spread further. But it also limits the amount of damage any single target takes. I'm up to about 100,000 average damage per hit (according to PoB)

marsh wyvern Jul 10, 2019, 4:40 PM

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that looks like it would make a good farmer build

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 4:41 PM

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it's helping me, I think. Storm Brand is great as a primary damage spell but it doesn't spread fast enough to unfreeze a whole Monolith spawn.

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mostly I'm trying to work out whether I need Chain Support to boost it to 11 chains. if I'm right and Vaal Arc already hits ~1000 mobs, I certainly don't.

wet plaza Jul 10, 2019, 4:48 PM

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theres no reason to ever NOT alch your maps imo

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youll get that investment out easily

placid grotto Jul 10, 2019, 4:51 PM

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I do alc and go for T2 Glacier. Without Shaper orb and ~60% Atlas, I'm at about 50% sustain

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 4:52 PM

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this reddit post today has some clever Atlas manipulation to help sustain T2 Glacier. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/cbhuap/how_to_contagion_ed_in_glacier_and_selfsustain/

r/pathofexile - How to Contagion --> ED in Glacier and self-sustai...

0 votes and 7 comments so far on Reddit

leaden storm Jul 10, 2019, 4:53 PM

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eh

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it's not really clever, it's just the way you sustain maps

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atlas strategy etc

safe fern Jul 10, 2019, 4:54 PM

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sorry to have bored you with something you already know. it was clever to me.

wet plaza Jul 10, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Uncomplete all T4 maps. This is really only important if you plan to boss kill on Glacier in addition to doing the Legion.

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at that point just shape it to t7

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impossible to not sustain t7 with boss

midnight phoenix Jul 10, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Uncompleting t4s is a colossal waste of time

fast spoke Jul 10, 2019, 9:58 PM

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even with complete t4s he drops t1 99% of the time because bosses prefer adjacent maps

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I should probably shape my t1

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:\

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I don't normally kill the boss though so 🤷

sterile fulcrum Jul 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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,.wat

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“Impossible to not sustain t7 with boss”

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explain

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Even when shaped the boss still drops t1-t3

teal axle Jul 11, 2019, 4:47 AM

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they're fixing that in the newest patch

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its in the patchnotes

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oh this was 6 hours ago lol

formal vale Jul 11, 2019, 10:08 AM

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@safe fern I'd say the strength with Vaal Arc is not its hit damage but it's potential with Ignite Proliferation. Since Ignites are not based on hits you can also add Chain Support to arc w/o reducing the ignite damage, rather the extra chains will scale the Ignite due to Arc's damage multiplier per chain and Ignite Proliferation will spread the first hit's Ignite to all other enemies since it will be the highest DPS. The extended reach of Vaal Arc with Chain Support will, despite the extra damage from +2 chains, naturally come at a cost of a potential other support gem.

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Anyhow, I got another question for y'all: Is there some kind of compilation of the Timless Jewels' non-keystone passive effects in relation to position/seed roll?

copper kernel Jul 11, 2019, 10:11 AM

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nope

stuck basalt Jul 11, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Are all the jewels shit?

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I got a few but they seem worthless

frosty aurora Jul 11, 2019, 11:08 AM

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The modifiers granted by passive skills that are conquered by Timeless Jewels are now displayed underneath the native modifiers that it grants.

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das cool

placid grotto Jul 11, 2019, 3:14 PM

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The problem with Arc is the same as EDC; past a given radius, monsters can't take damage. This is typically where Generals and rares are. Except unlike EDC, Arc is nearly instantaneous so you can't help it along after casting

frosty aurora Jul 11, 2019, 8:14 PM

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timeless jewels are like lotto

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you need some website now to make people input with someone's above approval and based on numbers you decide if you win or not

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number 1234? bam you win

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🎆

placid gate Jul 11, 2019, 10:20 PM

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A couple of questions about legion domain encounter: Are generals on a cooldown? do you need to hit the center to trigger them or just Wait a fixed amount of time?

silver kettle Jul 11, 2019, 10:21 PM

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They can't res for 30 seconds after dying

violet nymph Jul 11, 2019, 10:51 PM

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For glacier farm do you shape it or just break all map links and run it as t2 through the monolith?

placid grotto Jul 12, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Uncomplete so other T2s. If you have Elder Orb, use that and Shaper Orb on connected T3's then uncomplete all others. Otherwise, I think you can leave T3's completed for more chance T1->T2

brave ember Jul 12, 2019, 3:19 AM

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shape ~~alleyway~~ leyline, elder mausoleum, uncomplete all other t2 and t3

honest dune Jul 12, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Leyline* alleyways should be removed aswell as all other t2

brave ember Jul 12, 2019, 4:21 AM

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right, leyline

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brain isnt functioning

cinder thistle Jul 12, 2019, 8:47 AM

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hi, i was wondering if the legion monolith mobs can drop every unique in the game or if they have a specific loot table of uniques they drop

copper kernel Jul 12, 2019, 8:51 AM

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some drop everything

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most dont

barren sierra Jul 12, 2019, 11:55 AM

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is it worth to kill generals in legion 5 way?

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takes a long time instead of killing regular mobs

leaden storm Jul 12, 2019, 4:51 PM

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it's not worth doing the 5 way if you're not doing the generals and killing them instantly

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better to sell your keys

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if you wanna do it for fun then whatever

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but you're wasting money

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 6:27 PM

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God im having fun with most stuff in this game, but chimera smoke phase and the maraketh flicker mobs just boycott my fun ....

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/rantover

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just getting oneshot from outside my screen

barren sierra Jul 12, 2019, 6:59 PM

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killing generals instantly? god how much dps do you need for that

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i do have a headhunter but they still have a fuck ton of hp

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 7:11 PM

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you need a hyper optimized dps setup and/or to be on lowtier maps to do that

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also

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i think he meant he was getting one shot

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Is there any gem setup for ES/Caster that would make me more resistant to these bursts? maybe something to switch into when doing legion encounter

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?

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Cast on Damage taken / Immortal Call maybe?

royal gale Jul 12, 2019, 9:53 PM

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if you're dying during chimera smoke phase you just want to be faster or bring a quicksilver if you aren't running one

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or a movement skill

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but yes a cwdt setup would help

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:08 PM

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against legion rares, if you don't have it:

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basalt flask, dying sun or taste of hate can be effective defensively if you need it
if you have 2 flasks to swap around, sorrow of the divine + a life flask for burst heal can also be good (not feasible for all builds)

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using shield charge or leapslam as appropriate with fortify-faster attacks to have fortify up

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:10 PM

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im running ed contagion with reserverd hp, so life flask is no use. stibnite is an idea tho

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:11 PM

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ok skip that one yeah

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basalt or stibnite is good defensive option, um

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ensuring you have proper EHP (around 7k eff life after MoM, or 10k ES for pure ES build)

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so that you have time to react

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leech is hard for you too...

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(though i did recommend sorrow of the divine for a reason)

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hm

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endurance charges are a strong add if you can fit generation somewhere

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if not at least get the fortify going

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that + ehp + flask swap will be the bulk of what gets you there

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:14 PM

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sorrow of the divine looks nice, good idea. i mean for chimera i just need to time to survive till i unveil him and for legion cwdt is probably the idea against 3-4 melees jumping on me.

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ill experiment a bit

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:14 PM

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yee

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gl!

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:14 PM

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ty

royal gale Jul 12, 2019, 10:14 PM

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just watch your mods on guardian maps, don't be afraid to reroll

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:14 PM

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also consider block and rumi's concoction

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:14 PM

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yeah i do that already

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😄

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:14 PM

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possibly reconfiguring to fit a glancing blows karui jewel

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not joking

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75% attack block is pretty solid when its reducing half of incoming damage

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Currently on a rather high dps setup with only 6k es, but that is pprobably the struggle. dps or survivability ^^

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maybe i just need to git gud

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:16 PM

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xd

royal gale Jul 12, 2019, 10:17 PM

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nah 6k es is like extremely low for guardians

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that would explain why

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:17 PM

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the others are not really a problem because movement just avoids all dmg, just chimera has that undodgable slash

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:17 PM

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^

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:20 PM

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On that note, why does the light mechanic with hp even exist? dark maps are horrible and putting a point into ES Light feels sop wasted

vast gazelle Jul 12, 2019, 10:20 PM

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its mostly a thematic thing to give a sense of drama to staying on low life

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does feel weird that arcane vision is needed though yeah

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:22 PM

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do es builds use arcane vision or just live with the darkness?

royal gale Jul 12, 2019, 10:23 PM

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they usually take arcane vision

proven wadi Jul 12, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Ci prevents it too I think

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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probably because youre always on full hp with ci, right?

proven wadi Jul 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Yea

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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with reserving im basically always low life

royal gale Jul 12, 2019, 10:24 PM

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or you can use incandescent heart

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😏

merry comet Jul 12, 2019, 10:43 PM

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just saw i had some points taken for HP, so i respecd got 1k more ES and Arcane Vision xD

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A gift from my former, forgetful self

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😄

celest atlas Jul 13, 2019, 1:26 AM

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they said in the update note something about better seening if general is present .. was that only for timeless domain or also for monolith encounter ?

boreal forum Jul 13, 2019, 3:59 AM

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with the 5 slot map device, can you put an atziri fragment in it along with a shaper set for bonuses to shaper loot?